Counseling Cable
By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Monday, November 9th, 2009 at 7:30 pm in Oakland Raiders.
The Raiders’ favorite ESPN reporter said during Monday night’s pregame show the league had begun an evaluation process to determine if coach Tom Cable needs counseling.
If Chris Mortensen is correct, and the Raiders surely consider that to be up for debate, it sounds as if a suspension is of any kind is unlikely.
Regarding the allegations made on ESPN’s Outside the Lines about Cable’s history of violence toward women, the report said the only cases of domestic abuse which would be reviewed were those which happened while he was an NFL coach.
That means the strongest portion of the ESPN story, and the comments and accusations of first wife Sandy Cable, are off limits for the purposes of NFL discipline.
Mortensen seemed unclear on his status within the Raiders organization, joking at one point about being a “rumor mongerer.”
If I remember correctly, Adam Schefter was dubbed the “rumor mongerer” while a correspondent at the NFL Network. Mortensen was called a “born liar” by Davis, who believed he was the source for all leaked information coming from Lane Kiffin.
Note: Thanks to the three e-mailers who reminded me that the phrase Davis actually used regarding Mortensen was a “professional liar.”
A Raiders spokesman requested today that no questions regarding the ESPN story be asked of Cable during is press briefing. Cable did say he hadn’t head from the NFL (he was asked anyway, of course).
The Raiders issued a press release saying they were taking the domestic abuse allegations seriously and would investigate them, while Profootballtalk.com reported the Raiders were working in conjunction with the league on the matter.
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November 9th, 2009 at 7:34 pm
COUNSELING…THAT WILL SOLVE THE PROBLEM!!!!
November 9th, 2009 at 8:00 pm
Cable needs counseling on play-calling and getting team ready to play on Sundays.
November 9th, 2009 at 8:04 pm
Bro. Dungy is now advising Vick to give the Bills a look next year. Vick says he is unhappy in Philly.
Bro. Dungy said that would happen in Oakland and sent Vick to Philly.
I’m willing to bet that if Vick was here, JaMarcus would have been pulled in week 6 vs. Philly.
November 9th, 2009 at 8:07 pm
I need counseling…..
For staying a Raider fan.
November 9th, 2009 at 8:25 pm
Kirk, the first step is admitting you have a problem.
November 9th, 2009 at 8:27 pm
If any of you need help coping with being a Raiders fan, I want you to know that I am here for you.
November 9th, 2009 at 8:34 pm
Honestly, I wish I could just turn it off in being a Raider fan.
It IS a sickness. Life would be so much easier to root for a team that actually mattered, or was actually competitive.
I wish I could wear the jersey of team that actually wasn’t a complete joke when I walk into a sports bar on a Sunday aft.
It’s easy to be a fan of the Steelers or Pats, but if anyone can remain a Raider fan through all the ridiculous crap we have had to go through, and are STILL going through, than that my friends is a TRUE FAN; NOT A FRONTRUNNER who puts a Steeler sticker on his car right after they win the Super Bowl.
November 9th, 2009 at 8:47 pm
Is it me or has Eddie Royal not been heard from since his very 1st game Rookie year?
November 9th, 2009 at 8:54 pm
Broncos lose….
At least we gained some ground this week!
Maybe Chaz can take us to the playoffs!!!
November 9th, 2009 at 8:56 pm
Royal had more yards in his first game than DHB has for the first half of this season.
November 9th, 2009 at 8:56 pm
Nobody wants the HC job in Oakland as bad as Cable does. He needs it. He wants it. He will work hard in the off-season to be a better HC. He will attend coaching seminars, he will study his play book (small as it might be), he will watch film, he will read scouting reports (can he do that?), he will hit the weight room. Nobody wants it more than Cable. Matter of fact, he may be the only guy who wants the HC job in Oakland. I will say this, if Big Al would loosen his leash a bit, he could be a .500 guy, and that there is Hope. That’s all we got. Hope.
November 9th, 2009 at 9:00 pm
Cable would be .500 if he had a halfway decent QB. Jamarcus has lost more games by his play than any playcalling from a coach could.
November 9th, 2009 at 9:03 pm
Fire Cable & hire Jim Harbaugh!
Hire Fassel!!
Hire Del Rio!!
November 9th, 2009 at 9:04 pm
Yes, I admit it. I too have the disease of being a Raiders fan.
I need counseling.
I keep trying to get out.
But they keep getting a high draft pick and pulling me back in.
The shame.
I feel so dirty…
November 9th, 2009 at 9:06 pm
If Cable had some leash, he could slap some fire and desire and the will to win in some of his deadbeat qb’s.
November 9th, 2009 at 9:07 pm
The only way you guy’s would know if Al Davis had loosened anything is if he came and told you hisself. Otherwise you would have zero clue just as you have zero clue what the hell he does.
But whinning and complaining works for you guy’s but it means diddly. The raiders will win when and if this team pulls it’s cllective heads out of teir rears and dominates on a consistent basis rather than when someone calls them out……………period
November 9th, 2009 at 9:10 pm
Well said. You see the proof in the pudding too.
November 9th, 2009 at 9:12 pm
Fire Cable!
Fire Marshall!
Fire the WRs coach!
Fire the LBs coach!
Fire the RBs coach!
November 9th, 2009 at 9:14 pm
The only way the Raiders will pull their “collective heads” out of their rears is if the coach is allowed to have a big enough foot to do it. Who’s rulling the roost here anyway? The players?
November 9th, 2009 at 9:20 pm
JaMarcus gets $36 M guaranteed.
Cable gets 2.
Who do you think calls the shots.
“Would you like another pillow JaMarcus? Some more twinkies?”
“Naaa, no thanks coach, I’m good.”
November 9th, 2009 at 9:30 pm
I think it was Parcells who demanded a lot of money in his contract.
Not because he needed it, or wanted it, but because the players would not respect him otherwise.
The tuna needed it as leverage to get the players to realize it was cheaper to get rid of the player, than the coach.
November 9th, 2009 at 9:36 pm
The people who should be ruling it everybody is accountable for their actions in the world I live in. I don’t pass the buck and make excuses for my actions. It’s one thing if I don’t know how but once I’ve been trained and getting paid to do a job either I do it or I don’t and the decision rest with me.
I don’t look for a scapegoat to blame my actions on. I have a terrible boss and he basically doesn’t kow his job but I have to feed my family. I don’t let his shortcomings affect that. If he hinders me in my job then I take it to him and explain myself. I ran my own company for 9 years and was responsible for everything including paying my employees. I ran my company the way I wanted t run it if they didn’t agree I made sure they had a way out.
I don’t believe MR Davis is stopping these guy’s from playing football and he pays them extremely well. It’s up to them to make sure they know what to do when to do it. To use him as an excuse is unacceptable. Then wlk in there and pick up a check for $18.000 for a weeks work.
These blaming everybody but themselves is the reason why they lose so often because the fans and the media blame a 80 year old man. Who doesn’t blck or tackle, but pays them extremely well. but it’s all his fault.
Yeah right!!
November 9th, 2009 at 9:38 pm
If yu buyb that one, you are gullible. Parcells wanted the money for himself ……..period No other reason. No matter what they paid Parcells he can never make what a player can make.
November 9th, 2009 at 9:44 pm
O,so i guess you are at the team meetings,right.since you know Cable can’t prepare or motivate the team.its pretty funny you know this because the players say the exact OPPOSITE.the players correctly point out the reason they aren’t successful is because of THEM,not the coaches.i’m not trying to get this going again,but the reason he can’t call the plays he wants is the team is too young and the QB doesn’t know enough of the playbook.you make broad statements and have no facts to back up said statements.
November 9th, 2009 at 9:44 pm
JR is not the problem, but he is part of it!
November 9th, 2009 at 9:49 pm
Lefty,
I watched all the games but one ( Denver). They were motivated 3 times!! They won 2 games, and you can see the bad play calling. Do you think the players are going to pint the finger at the coach during the season!!
November 9th, 2009 at 9:51 pm
*point
November 9th, 2009 at 9:51 pm
Lefty12, way to come strong. Russell has a long way to go and we all hpe he’s finally putting in the necessary time to get better. Chaz Schilens should help the young WR’s to get better. And they simpy must run the football, To help Russell out. His best games were when we ran the football well.
It’s a crying shame we don’t have a mentor in this org. for Russell unfortunately he is the best we have at that position.
November 9th, 2009 at 9:52 pm
JaMarcus tried to point the finger at the coach, but he missed.
November 9th, 2009 at 9:54 pm
Lefty,
If you want to have a conversation with me, you need to show more respect and talk like an adult. Don’t be sarcastic & condescending!
November 9th, 2009 at 9:55 pm
Lefty,
I state my opinions and not facts!! Learn to read dude!!
It’s a blog!
November 9th, 2009 at 9:55 pm
It all comes down to hunger. Is JR hungry? Does he want it bad, does he have the fire? Does he need it? Does he have that burning fire to compete? Did he know what came with the job when he took the money? What is it going to take to get these guys fired up? Is it possible, or is there a dysfunction that has permeated so deep it digs its own hole? I do not know. But I will keep hoping.
Gotta have hope.
November 9th, 2009 at 9:56 pm
you can’t say they aren’t motivated unless you are there with them.how can you judge the play calling when the coach CAN’T call all his plays because his QB doesn’t know them,or feels the team,due to its immaturity,can’t execute them.the coach is very limited in what he can call.also,when QBs know the WHOLE playbook,the coach can instruct the QB to change the play if he sees a certain Def..do you believe Cable can do that with Russell at this point in time?NO!
November 9th, 2009 at 9:56 pm
Raider O, I do agree Cable has made some horrible calls he’s essential put the ball in Russell’s hands under a lot of pressure when it’s obvious he wasn’t ready fr it. And neither were the young WR’s it’s making Russell look worse than he is. These guy’s fall down too much and run bad routes and they don’t make plays for him. If you know that as a coach you have to scale it back and run.
November 9th, 2009 at 10:01 pm
Lefty12 but if you know that why are you asking him to throw in bad sitautions where you know it has a strong probabilty of failure?
As a coach you have to know your own team. If Chaz and JLH were starting maybe he could call those plays but with these rookies even if Russell knows the playbook they don’t. So what good is it?
The offense is severely handycapped with him and two rookies.
November 9th, 2009 at 10:02 pm
I can say what ever I want. It’s my opinion! I form my own opinions, and I don’t need to listen what players & coaches tell the media.
Do you think the players ate going to say Cable can’t call plays, can’t adjust at halftime, and is not a good coach!!??really?!
November 9th, 2009 at 10:03 pm
You start 2 rookie WRs, you have a bad Oline, and younadk you young QB to develop!! How!!!?!!!
November 9th, 2009 at 10:03 pm
all i’m doing is rebutting the opinions you state as facts.opinions are stated like-imo,Cable can’t ….when you state-Cable can’t ….-that sounds like you are stating what you believe to be a fact.
November 9th, 2009 at 10:08 pm
BHP,
JR started 2.5 season at LSU, and he was 20 when we drafted him. Ryan & Flaco were 23 when drafted. What have we done to help him? Why did he regress? He played well the last 5 or 6 games of last season.
November 9th, 2009 at 10:10 pm
That’s how I post. If you don’t like it, then learn to ignore it. I’m not going to type IMO every post to please you.
November 9th, 2009 at 10:11 pm
Priest,i believe that was the plan.throw as much as possible at both the WRs and the QB.try and develop them together as fast as possible.unfortunately,it hasn’t worked because neither has progressed as fast as hoped.(notice how i started with i believe,O)hell,even before the season Davis admitted he didn’t expect to contend until next year,and the only way to contend next year is give these guys a crash course this year.
November 9th, 2009 at 10:12 pm
Raider O, it’s obvious why he regressed; Oline, no running game and rookie WR’s, name one QB that can be productive with those odds. But when you add his own struggles to the mix it’s a recipe for disaster.
November 9th, 2009 at 10:18 pm
Then Lefty12, they you are saying they made a concious decision to make the season a work in progress. I think the plan will pay off but in the mean time we will struggle badly. I really believe that DHB will have a better second half. Crabtree outstating lit a fire under him. He has worked his ass off in camp the bye week and we will see.
Russelll has been wrking extra hard with these guy’s especially Chaz for the last few weeks and hopefully it will pay off. But what you say makes a lot of sense to me. They want to contend next year and they want to lay the ground work this year.
If that’s true Cable is safe it would only make sense to have continuity if that is the plan.
November 9th, 2009 at 10:21 pm
I agree BHP, and Cable hasn’t done anything to help or improve these issues. It’s getting late, so we will continue late.
Have a great night Gents. Later Nation.
Fire Cable!
November 9th, 2009 at 10:25 pm
Anybody who takes a job as Raiders HC needs counseling.
November 9th, 2009 at 10:27 pm
it wouldn’t surprise me at all if Cable returns,unless this BS they’re bringing up now causes the team to cut ties with him.my main problem is-and i don’t know if this is true or not-JR should have been working with the young WRs AFTER practice everyday until they were dying and his arm was ready to fall off.that is how they could develop the chemistry necessary to be successful,not just at practice and during games-and i put that on JR,not the rookies.he should know that.
November 9th, 2009 at 10:27 pm
I’d be willing to forgive Cable if he punched Al Davis.
November 9th, 2009 at 10:32 pm
First, if Cable punched Davis, his fist would go right through him. Besides, if you touch the grim reaper, then don’t you die?
The only reason Cable would stay is for continuity. The parade of coaches the last few years hasn’t helped any of the young players develop. I don’t mind Cable and his positive spin on things.
Just don’t let him call any plays!
November 9th, 2009 at 10:34 pm
OK, so when you’re the worst team in the NFL for 6 years, and haven’t improved one bit the 7th, the goal is continuity? Uh..yah.
November 9th, 2009 at 10:34 pm
With all of these workplace shootings, it’s too bad it’s never happened at the Raiders headquarters. I mean, Al’s not getting away from a shooter in his condition. So…
November 9th, 2009 at 10:39 pm
Priesttj
Why don’t the Raiders get as tough with the Pittsburg Steelers as they do with ESPN?
November 9th, 2009 at 10:42 pm
Lefty
Does a General Manager who’s hired 5 Head Coaches in 5 years, sound like he know’s what he’s doing?
November 9th, 2009 at 10:50 pm
Its been tough, but I’ll never waiver. Loyal to the Silver and Black always…
Wish they were as loyal as their fans. If they played as fast and sharp on every play we WOULD win more than we lose.
Starters place.
Line opens the run.
Schilens starts making grabs on play action.
Defense built to get after the QB has points to protect.
Oakland starts winning.
November 9th, 2009 at 10:51 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
November 9th, 2009 at 10:34 pm
With all of these workplace shootings, it’s too bad it’s never happened at the Raiders headquarters. I mean, Al’s not getting away from a shooter in his condition. So…
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Really?
Offsides dude. seriously…
November 9th, 2009 at 10:51 pm
YEAH! Take that Broncos! Let the slide into the toilet begin!
November 9th, 2009 at 10:52 pm
Let’s face it. No good young coaching prospect wants anything to do with the Raiders. Whisenhunt wouldn’t even come in for the interview.
So instead of bringing in some former Norv Turner like re-tread, just keep the same slug coach in place and let the players “try” to develop.
Instead of messing up the play calling, Cable should be working the sidelines and pumping up the players like Singletary. He’s useless as an OC, but even he has some value. Let him do what he does best. (Besides punching people).
Maybe when Davis feels the cold wind of death on his back, he’ll loosen up control of the sinking ship, and hand over some more power to a coach.
Until then…
November 9th, 2009 at 10:56 pm
The players will not develop as long as Al Davis is Coaching from upstairs, and the Puppet Coach on the field has no authority, comprende?
November 9th, 2009 at 10:57 pm
Catch 22
November 9th, 2009 at 11:17 pm
Did you say offsides? LOL. Did you blow a whistle, too?
November 9th, 2009 at 11:21 pm
Nnamdi, while none of us really wishes death on Al, you have to admit, the Raiders would improve IMMEDIATELY.
November 9th, 2009 at 11:22 pm
Some of you guys blame the players.
Some of you guys blame the coach.
Some of you guys blame the owner.
Great players can win with mediocre Coaches
Great coaches can win with mediocre Players
Unfortunately, the Raiders have mediocre players and mediocre coaches. But hey, even a blind squirrel finds a nut every now and then, right…
The reason why the Raiders can’t even luck into a .500 season or better is…
They have mediocre players surrounded by mediocre coaches working in an unstable, dysfunctional mediocre (at best) organization.
That my friends is a recipe for disaster.
November 9th, 2009 at 11:24 pm
priesttj Says:
November 9th, 2009 at 9:07 pm
The only way you guy’s would know if Al Davis had loosened anything is if he came and told you hisself. Otherwise you would have zero clue just as you have zero clue what the hell he does.
…………..
I have a clue what Al does. He loses. Every year. We all have that clue.
November 9th, 2009 at 11:28 pm
#
# Nnamdi21 Says:
November 9th, 2009 at 10:51 pm
YEAH! Take that Broncos! Let the slide into the toilet begin!
…………
OMG!!!
dude, if the Broncos are beginning a “slide into the toilet”, what have we slid into? An outhouse being used by a 300 lb. man with hemroids?
November 9th, 2009 at 11:38 pm
Lefty12, that’s sounds all well and good, but he can’t throw to himself after practice. You making him respnsible for these young guy’s is a little ridiculous when he is every bit as young as they are. You’re not being realistic yu’re being idealistic. This is a real world situation and Russell is still a child. He needs to realize the situation before he can take action. That is a slow process wether we all like it or not. He is a very yung QB learning what it takes in the NFL. That’s reality. Stop making him culpible for every situation that he cannot control. He does what the others are ready to do. Murphy has to want to stay after practice, he can’t MAKE him. Even if he wanted to.
When he got to office at 6:30 they weren’t with him and he can’t say you do it tooo. Especially when he himself is just starting to do it. He can’t make them watch film they have to want to watch film. Your being far to harsh on a very young kid who’s finding himself in this league. Do you remember when you were 23 years old could you have carried an entire billion dollar franchise on your back with the entire world watching? No way I could’ve, I failed carrying my own ass to work on time. Fans unreal expectation on these kids is unreal. And the media and the money just makes it worse. Money doesn’t make it better it makes it worse.
November 9th, 2009 at 11:43 pm
Anyone else catch Gruden irrelevantly praising Jack Tatum during the Steelers-Broncos MNF Game?
Read the smoke signals, baby. This cat wants back in on the Silver & Black.
November 9th, 2009 at 11:50 pm
Priesttj
When was the last time the Raiders developed a Quarterback?
November 9th, 2009 at 11:51 pm
He can want in one hand and crap inthe other and see which one fills up the fastest. Gruden burned Big Al when Big Al needed him the most and right now he doesn’t.
Chris when Gruden was interrviewing for the Raider job he practicaly slept n the front porch and when he hired him Gruden knew what the sitaution was. He didn’t come in blind. He knew what Mr Davis hired him for coach the team not run it. When he got the job he wanted more control. If he knew that he should’ve negotiated it. But he knew he would never get the job that way so he got the job and tried to use his popularity to force Davis to relent. He’ll never get back in here unless HE makes it absolutely clear in writing what he is here to do………..period
November 9th, 2009 at 11:52 pm
Steinbrenner and Billy Martin always had this love/hate thing going on. He hired and fired him five times as the Yankees manager.
Maybe…
(That’s all we have now is hope)
November 9th, 2009 at 11:59 pm
I agree, priest. We wouldn’t want Gruden to come in now and ruin what we have. We’re just rolling.
November 10th, 2009 at 12:01 am
I’m sure Gruden would be willing to come back here under the stipulation he would have no control, yeah, Priest, sure.
November 10th, 2009 at 12:02 am
Northern D, let me tell you why the Steinbrenner/Martin= Davis/Gruden analogy doesn’t work. Davis can’t hold Steinbrenner’s jock. There’s no comparison between the two. Since Martin’s left, Steinbrenner has seen a great deal of success. Davis saw one trip to the super bowl, only to be demolished by Gruden, and hasn’t won so much as 3 straight games since. Davis’s name need not even be mentioned in the same sentence as Steinbrenner’s.
November 10th, 2009 at 12:03 am
Al Davis is small time next to Steinbrenner. Just a small time chump in a big pond, where Steinbrenner is a shark.
November 10th, 2009 at 12:05 am
If Davis had retired 20 yeas ago, his legacy would have been much stronger.
November 10th, 2009 at 12:08 am
And it wouldn’t have been as embarrassing being a Raider fan in the past 20 years either, Kell.
November 10th, 2009 at 12:10 am
At the very least, if the GM wasn’t doing his job, we could say so.
November 10th, 2009 at 12:17 am
Could it be you think, that all this meddling in some way has taken the ability to coach away? Davis needs to sit back and enjoy the ride (tho the ride probably ended when Gruden got off). Everyone knows Al is Raider and Raider is Al. Just let the coaches do their job. Al will still get the credit. Heck, for all we know, all Als’ yes men maybe got him thinkin he’s 8-0.
He’s doing a great job. Got to have hope.
November 10th, 2009 at 12:45 am
I don’t think Al is the Raiders and the Raiders are Al. Ron Wolf built the great teams. So Al designed the uniforms. bfd. Betsy Ross designed the flag. How often is her name brought up when America’s triumphs are discussed?
November 10th, 2009 at 12:59 am
David is not Steinbrenner. Agreed.
But before the salary cap came in, the Raiders and Steelers ruled. If conditions had remained the same as they were through the 60’s and 70’s, the Raiders would be a dynasty like the Yankees. The Yankees can spend their way through the mistakes now. The Raiders have to live with them.
Even the Yankees sucked under Steinbrenner for a few years until they rebuilt their farm system.
I was making the point that it is not impossible for Gruden to come back. Highly unlikely, but still not impossible. You never know with those characters like Davis and Steinbrenner.
November 10th, 2009 at 1:29 am
Now it’s the salary cap….the excuse carousel for why Al Davis fell off just never stops spinning. Pick a new one every day if you want. Some people know how to win despite the circumstances, some don’t. Ron Wolf did fine in the cap era. Built a SB winner. And, he built the great Raider teams of the past, too. Al Davis is a f’n joke.
November 10th, 2009 at 1:37 am
Al Davis couldn’t be Steinbrenner’s secretary. George Steinbrenner is a champion. He wants to win, his goal is to win, he does what it takes to win. Al Davis is a f’n baby who does nothing but fight with his employees and the media.
November 10th, 2009 at 4:20 am
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November 10th, 2009 at 5:01 am
Good Morning NATION!!!
November 10th, 2009 at 5:40 am
morning 4eva.
November 10th, 2009 at 5:41 am
HEY good morning Neilb…Wassup???
November 10th, 2009 at 5:42 am
Not much.No work today.
You?
November 10th, 2009 at 5:44 am
Just fiddleing around the house.Still laid off here in florida…construction prolly wont pick up 4awhile…so collect unemployment benefits and roll fattys same ole same ole
November 10th, 2009 at 5:47 am
is the employment situation bad or stable across the pond???
November 10th, 2009 at 5:47 am
Good Morning Nation!!!
Yup, seen Gruden even show highlights of The Assassin while talking about that hit that James Harris put on that running back!
November 10th, 2009 at 5:48 am
Not that far behind you.I work in the car (parts)industry.The factory where I work has lost approx 25% of the workforce.Everytime we go back to work there’s rumours of more job losses.Depressing stuff.
November 10th, 2009 at 5:51 am
4eva ref #87…..
It’s sh!te,don’t believe what you see on the tv.Nobody is planning a big xmas.Everyone is cutting back.
November 10th, 2009 at 5:52 am
Hwnrdr…..
give it up.Grudens never coming back.
November 10th, 2009 at 6:00 am
Well like I said B4 Cable should get 1 more year.Injuries and youth is a bad mix in the NFL,imo,and we are very young and injured.Jmac should get 1 more year also…even tho Stabler rode the pine for 4 years,so why cant we give Jmac that long.But I agree he is looks LOST right now
November 10th, 2009 at 6:01 am
Neilb: Who says that I said that? I was just responding to another post earlier.
November 10th, 2009 at 6:01 am
Well in the English’ tradition I will raise a glass 4 a better world economy =)
November 10th, 2009 at 6:05 am
Hwnrdr….
Sorry ’bout that.Kinda jumped the gun.As a punishment I’m going to wear my Moss 18 jersey tomorrow.
November 10th, 2009 at 6:05 am
Neilb…what kind of beer or ale do you drink or is most popular there???
November 10th, 2009 at 6:06 am
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO not that Neilb =)
November 10th, 2009 at 6:11 am
No worries…you still got a Moss jersey? LOL! I bought one for my son when he first came on board. After giving up the next season (which in some ways, I don’t blame him. but…he was getting paid), I threw it out!
November 10th, 2009 at 6:11 am
4eva….
I made the same point on another blog a while back.Not only do we have a young team,but we have an inexperienced coaching staff.Have a look at the bio’s on Raiders.com-just about all of them are at the Raiders for the first time or coaching that position for the first time.Not good.
……..and amen brother !! cheers !!
November 10th, 2009 at 6:12 am
Stella Artois or Jack Daniels and coke.
November 10th, 2009 at 6:14 am
Yeah I’ve still got a Moss jersey.Haven’t worn it for a while.I wonder why ?
November 10th, 2009 at 6:17 am
I’m not familiar with Stella Artois…beer,ale or hard liquor
November 10th, 2009 at 6:18 am
JD and coke sounds really good right now!!! And its only 6:15am…LOL! But hey…tomorrow is a Holiday, so…Cheers to you guys; Neilb and 4eva! And the rest of the AM crew!!!
November 10th, 2009 at 6:22 am
Big Cheers 2 U Hwnrdr!!!
November 10th, 2009 at 6:23 am
Hey, I won some bucks off the Donkeys last night. What does Cable need counseling for? How not to marry bat$#!t crazy women? They should make a nerf strait jacket complete with a gag for when your ex invades your home when you’re with another women!
November 10th, 2009 at 6:23 am
stella artwaaaaaaaaaaaa???
November 10th, 2009 at 6:25 am
Also like Becks and Pilsner Urquell.
It’s a national holiday for the 11th over there ?
Most people will stop at 11 o’clock tomorrow but there’s no offical holiday.
November 10th, 2009 at 6:30 am
Close enough 4eva !! It’s a very good Belgian pilsner lager.
November 10th, 2009 at 6:31 am
Veterans Day
November 10th, 2009 at 6:32 am
I would like to see Oakland pick up Jason Campbell in the offseason.
He is a 65% completion QB who threw for 3200 yards last year and is on pace to have over 3000 this year as well. He has a QB rating over 80 despite the poor O-line play in Washington and the total dysfunction of the organization.
He would not demand a high contract and he would be an upgrade over Russell, who couldn’t hit water if he fell out of a boat.
I know you guys think I’m nuts, but I think he could be a good QB.
November 10th, 2009 at 6:32 am
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November 10th, 2009 at 6:33 am
Veterans Day ? It’s a national holiday in the States ?
Nothing over here.Nothing.
November 10th, 2009 at 6:35 am
Its a Federal Holiday here, but only banks and the post office are off! I work for a bank, so…
November 10th, 2009 at 6:36 am
Jason Campbell is a good QB…in the right place he could do good.But at the moment this isnt the place 4 a young QB.I think Big Al threw it 2 the wind when he started the rookies and made this a learning year 4 them,imo
November 10th, 2009 at 6:38 am
#32.
Is Jadumbo hungry? Of Course he is!
November 10th, 2009 at 6:38 am
75…..
I work with a ’skins fan and he rates Campbell pretty high.This is not the first time I’ve heard his name mentioned.What’s the deal between him and the skins ?
November 10th, 2009 at 6:38 am
Well good 4U Hwnrdr…After banks got all that federal money,why arent YOU lending any???lol
Small Business Administration lendind is down.Just b/c no one is working is no reason not 2 lend LOL!!!
November 10th, 2009 at 6:40 am
Good job Steelers, won daddy some money!!!
Anyone else see the Steelers breakdown of their last 7 first round picks?? QB, RB, TE, WR, S, 2 LB’s.
Zero O or D-line. In fact I looked it up, the Steelers have used exactly one, FREAKING ONE, 1st or 2nd round pick on the O-line the last ten years.
Playmakers win championships.
November 10th, 2009 at 6:43 am
Number of WR’s taken in the first two rounds by the Steelers the last 10 years.
6!!! More than every other year.
November 10th, 2009 at 6:45 am
WHAT !! More than the Lions ??
November 10th, 2009 at 6:46 am
2 great comments from Florio’s Power Rankings:
Raiders coach Tom Cable doesn’t think Falcons coach Mike Smith did anything wrong during that sideline chat with DeAngelo Hall.
The psychological evaluation of coach Tom Cable will begin and end with the following question: “Tell me why in the hell you took this job?”
November 10th, 2009 at 6:48 am
Now let’s break down the difference in players drafted between in first round between Raiders-Steelers.
QB: Ben vs Jamarcus: I give a slight edge to Ben (sarcasticly)
RB: Mendenhall vs. Darren: Rashard looks better and more equipted to handle a heavy game load.
WR: Holmes vs. DHB : Nowhere even close
S: Troy P vs. Huff: Troy may be best defensive player in football. Huff isn’t even best safety on the Raiders.
And that’s why the Raiders are no good. Not because we didn’t take the right position in the draft, we just picked the wrong guys.
November 10th, 2009 at 6:48 am
da Raiders last 7 1st round draft picks in order…
1-WR
2-RB
3-QB
4-S
5-CB
6-OT
7-CB
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Seems 2 work for some Vegas…with the exception of Gallery,I would consider our picks almost mirror the steAlers
November 10th, 2009 at 6:51 am
Yep we picked the wrong ones OR we cant coach em up.Maybe a little of both =)
The coaching turnstyle MUST STOP,imo
November 10th, 2009 at 6:53 am
4eva,
They are very similar. The problem with the Raiders drafts are the busts in the first round, and than not much attention to interior lines in later rounds.
Don’t get me wrong, the Stealers draft lineman, just later in the draft. We don’t draft any. But look at the draft of the Stealers, Saints, Patriots and you see them taking RB’s, WR’s, and LB’s in the first few rounds and they NEVER take O-lineman in round 1.
November 10th, 2009 at 6:56 am
The difference IS the coaching staff.Now that Jim Johnson has pasted,the Steelers have the best D coach in the league with Dick LeBeau.They’ve lost other position coaches to HC other teams.AND…….they have a GM.
November 10th, 2009 at 6:58 am
Soo…We need a better scouting dept.Man I’m outta work,mabe I send Big Al a application and ask 2B a scout for the SE States.I really dont care about pay,just enough for basics and I would work continously 4 the betterment of DA Raiders
November 10th, 2009 at 6:58 am
Sun Yue is a bust.
November 10th, 2009 at 7:01 am
4eva….
Doesn’t matter how good the scouting is if the man at the top makes his own picks.
November 10th, 2009 at 7:04 am
Just looked at Jamarcus in my fantasy league. He’s the only starting QB with negative numbers for the season. 8 games, negative fantasy points! LOL! that has to be a record…. I find it hard to believe anybody playing fantasy has him starting….Only in da raidahs baby!
November 10th, 2009 at 7:14 am
You know, Dick LeBeau is the man! Plolmalu, Harris…they’re all beasts!!!
November 10th, 2009 at 7:16 am
Funny is that John Marshall almost (and many will say that they did) beat the Steelers in that SB a few years back. I wish he had control here…
November 10th, 2009 at 7:17 am
Jim Johnson was the man.Now it’s LeBeau.
November 10th, 2009 at 7:19 am
Off to go save the world, have a good day Nation!!!
Take it easy 4eva, and work on your resume and send it in to AL!!
November 10th, 2009 at 7:22 am
Me too.
Getting hungry.Time for dinner.
Have a great Tuesday everyone.
November 10th, 2009 at 7:23 am
Take care BRO’S
November 10th, 2009 at 7:24 am
Dude. I wish our oline could block (or be allowed to hold) like the stealers O line. Every single play, holding every which way!
November 10th, 2009 at 7:40 am
Los Raiders,
so you noticed that as well on last night’s game. Steelers holding on every play. But the Donks were doing the same thing (they got flagged once and only once when it too obvious that Harrison was gonna smack down on Ortie).
Must say that the Ref did look kinda lost last night. Referring to a punt as an interception twice. Maybe he had orders from corporate headquarters to not call holding and he was uncomfortable with it. Quien sabe?
November 10th, 2009 at 7:42 am
Despite all the hate from the BSPN lifers, Gruden did manage to get in some footage of Jack Tatum last night. Good for him.
November 10th, 2009 at 7:52 am
11/09/2009 Waived G Paul McQuistan, signed DT William Joseph
November 10th, 2009 at 8:00 am
Broncos looked like who we thought they were. Problem is JaMonkie is getting worse than anyone ever thought. We would be better off bringing back Ronald Curry to play QB. No maybe Vince Evans. How bout Rusty Hilger? Billy Joe Hobert?
November 10th, 2009 at 8:09 am
I thought Willie Joe played well in preseason.
Not spectacular mind you but he had good quicks and stayed in his lanes.
If Seymour had not been signed he would have started.
His big problem was Sands,Kelly and warren all had big contracts.
He shold have made the team last year over Sands,
November 10th, 2009 at 8:14 am
Paul McQ cut.
Another O-line washout, why do most teams figure it out sooner?
What do we have invested in this guy? 3-4 years..he will never start, and is not versatile enough to be a solid back up.
Should have been sent to Europe his first year or the Arena League.
November 10th, 2009 at 8:17 am
Jack Tatum should be in the HOF.
Crippled one WR and your whole legacy is ruined.
Modern defenders are built on the Tatum proto-type.
It’s sad he will never receive his true recognition.
November 10th, 2009 at 8:19 am
Once Hitler I mean Al is gone you will see a bunch of Raiders in the HOF. Plunkett, Stabler, Guy, Branch, Tatum, Hayes & Flores.
November 10th, 2009 at 8:48 am
I need counseling…..
For staying a Raider fan.
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Me too
November 10th, 2009 at 8:52 am
Wishbone,
for you and all like-minded Glenn Beck types who forever compare in knee-jerk idiocy anyone you don’t like to Hitler is beyond ludicrous. Trite and tired. And ignorant.
Turkmenbashi Niyazov would be a better analogy than your Schikelgruber reference, but you would not know that.
November 10th, 2009 at 8:55 am
The Raider will always suffer, because the organization makes no effort to set up a plan for success, you cannot have 2 rookies @ wr, a developing quarterback, a mix n match o-line and a paper mache defense learning new systems each and every year. The players drafted are non-existant, not because of talent. But because of coaching, and the environment. If DHB played for the Steelers he would succeed, although the Steelers would have passed on him, for Mike Wallace. The Raiders, should not replace Tom Cable with another mediocre, cheap coach. If you cannot land a coach of High priced caliber, with a proven NFL track record. Don’t bother. Cable is as good as it gets. His system will break the players in eventually, help them develop the swagger of a winning NFl player, and propel the team as a whole. A new second rate coach will bring more of the same, a new system, a new approach, and the players will, especially the QB with their obvious low-rate football IQ will not grasp it, and fail again. 5-second rate coaches, 5 years, only equalls one consistancy, a losing one!!
November 10th, 2009 at 9:03 am
Whatever Lonetree, but Al is an ego driven dictator any way you wanna look at it. He has run this organization into the ground simply because he can. He drafts JaMonkie & DHB in the first round & they shouldn’t be in the NFL. He gives Javon Walker & Tommy freakin Kelly ridiculous salaries who also shouldn’t be in the NFL, yet he won’t give Gruden control of the roster after being a proven playoff team.
November 10th, 2009 at 9:03 am
That is soooo true M Lonetree…
One only has 2 look as far as a Samuel Bak oil on canvas painting.If a space alien were 2 look at his paintings,it would truly know the difference between Al Davis doer of good 4 man.vs the Unimaginable Pain and discombobulated SICKNESS of 1 Adolph Hitler.I feel dirty just printing its name
November 10th, 2009 at 9:13 am
new post up ladies!!!
November 10th, 2009 at 9:44 am
I sit here and read everyday how upset our nation is about our team. Maybe this is a place to vent but i see the same things being said over and over about JR and Cable and talking about how they dont know if they can be a fan any longer or need counseling for being a Fan. Part of being a fan is standing by our team during this phase its not saying that your gonna jump ship because things are not going our way. I started watching the raiders when my father took me to games while they played here in Los Angeles and since then I have been a fan. When everyone in football bashed my team i still stood there and was a fan because thats what real fans do. So if ur second guessing my team maybe you should raise another teams flag because we dont need you!
November 10th, 2009 at 10:48 am
1-2-3 Get Counseling!!!
November 10th, 2009 at 11:12 am
Coaches that would coach the Raiders
1. Tom Cable
2. Dennis Green
3. Jim Fassell
You make the call
November 11th, 2009 at 6:48 am
When Davis talked about a “professional liar” during his infamous press conference, he appeared to be talking about Kiffin and not Mortensen. But it’s hard to tell.