Surprise! Ellis had shoulder surgery, too
By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Wednesday, November 11th, 2009 at 4:28 pm in Oakland Raiders.
News and notes following coach Tom Cable’s post practice press briefing Wednesday as the Raiders prepare to host the Kansas City Chiefs:
– Defensive end Greg Ellis didn’t practice Wednesday following arthroscopic surgery. Or was that surgeries? Turns out doctors fixed more than just his knee.
“They worked on both the knee and the shoulder,” Cable said. “Everything is coming along fine, it’s just a matter of whether there’s enough time.”
Cable said if Ellis can practice by Friday, he could conceivably play. If not, rookie Matt Shaughnessy would make his first NFL start at left end.
– Ricky Schmitt, who punted for the Raiders during training camp and finished last season on the practice squad, was on the field as practice concluded, booming kicks to Johnnie Lee Higgins and practice squad returner Shaun Bodiford.
Why would Schmitt even be around, given that Shane Lechler is on pace to break Sammy Baugh’s all-time record for punting average at 52.3 yards per kick?
“Just to see if he’s had some workouts and he’s kicking better,” Cable said.
Of course, Chiefs punter Dustin Colquitt, like Schmitt, is left-footed, and it gives Higgins a chance to field a kick which comes with a different spin. And if Higgins looks shaky enough, the Raiders could always activate Bodiford.
– Predictably, and wisely, Cable isn’t about to delve into the details of how he will use Chaz Schilens and Darren McFadden, two important pieces to the offensive puzzle who went through the entirety of practice Wednesday with no limitations and are on schedule to play, if not start.
“I’m kind of messing around with personnel and how I’m going to start it and all that,” Cable said.
– The Raiders will prepare defensively this week without consideration of Larry Johnson, who rushed for 938 yards on 222 carries in 10 games against the Raiders dating back to 2004 and scored 12 touchdowns (11 rushing).
The Chiefs are ranked 24th in rushing offense, and will utilize some combination of Jamal Charles, Dantrell Savage and Kolby Smith. Smith had 31 carries for 150 yards as a rookie against the Raiders in 2007 in a game won 20-17 by Oakland at Arrowhead Stadium.
“They still have good runners,” Cable said. “It’s not like they’re going to change their system of their scheme. The runner they got is a good player. Larry was a very good player. So, it impacts it to some degree. But in this business, it’s the next man up.”
Linebacker Kirk Morrison and cornerback Chris Johnson both expect the Chiefs to try and get their smaller, shiftier runners in space rather than pound ahead as they did with Larry Johnson.
– Chiefs quarterback Matt Cassel will start his second game in Oakland, having beaten the Raiders 49-26 as a member of the Patriots last season. He completed 18 of 30 passes for 218 yards, four touchdowns and one interception.
“That game in particular was a pretty emotional game for me,” Cassel told Bay Area reporters by conference call. “My father just passed away that Wednesday and we went in and it’s quite a place to play but for me personally it was quite an experience and quite a game. I was able to honor him in a nice way by us getting the victory there with the Patriots.”
– Claiming Chris Chambers off waivers from San Diego paid immediate dividends as he caught two touchdown passes in his first game. By claiming his contract, the Chiefs are obligated to pay the remainder of Chambers’ salary this season.
Before Chambers was claimed, Cable said the Raiders wouldn’t be interested “because of who we’ve got there.”
“He’s a veteran player in the league. Any place he would have went he probably would make an impact,” Raiders cornerback Chris Johnson said. “I’m not really surprised.”
– While Cable insists he “can see the mountain top” with regard to his team turning things around, Chiefs coach Todd Haley went for straight reality.
“I wish I had that sense,” Haley said. Nah, as a coach, you can just point it out. We’re 0-3 in games decided by seven points or less. That hurts, obviously. That means there’s little things on each side of the ball in each of those games that could have made a difference in winning instead of losing. So we’ve just got to continue to focus on doing all the little things right all the time, not part of the time, Keep them focused and concentrating throughout a game in order to have a win.”
— The only players who didn’t practice other than Ellis were wide receiver/return specialist Nick Miller (broken tibia) and linebacker Ricky Brown (ankle).
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November 11th, 2009 at 4:30 pm
4evaRaider Says:
November 11th, 2009 at 4:29 pm
Not yet M…But once again 4 the enjoyment of all the NATION 4ever more
***********************************************************M Lonetree Says:
November 11th, 2009 at 3:46 pm
Ricochet,
you have never uttered an original thought. how does that feel?
November 11th, 2009 at 4:31 pm
GAWDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD!!!
November 11th, 2009 at 4:39 pm
“If there is no struggle there is no progress. Those who profess to favor freedom and yet depreciate agitation…want crops without plowing up the ground, they want rain without thunder and lightening. They want the ocean without the awful roar of its many waters…. Power concedes nothing without a demand. It never did and it never will.”
November 11th, 2009 at 4:41 pm
Does it really matter whether this team is healthy or not? Jamarcus Russell is the QB.
November 11th, 2009 at 4:42 pm
Cable insists he “can see the mountain top”… what the hell is he talking about? This offense is worse than the Bed & Breakfast POS offense Art Shell ran. Art had zero probability of keeping his job. Cable, the mountain top is a phone call by Uncle Al on christmas eve saying he’s firing you for cause.
November 11th, 2009 at 4:45 pm
Thanks to all our troops past and present who don’t get to choose when, why and where they fight.
Thats OUR job to make make sure its for a just cause…
Lets go Raiders!!!
November 11th, 2009 at 4:46 pm
nick miller must either be barry sanders’ brother from another mother or have incriminating photos of someone high up in raiderland at this point. talk about saving a spot for someone.
November 11th, 2009 at 4:49 pm
Al’s christmas letter to Tom Cable:
Dear Tom,
You are in breach of contract because you have lost more games that you’ve won, you are overweight, and you pissed off N.O.W.. I have no choice but to fire you for cause. Inside the envelope you will find a transparency of this letter you can put on your overhead projector. Much love, A.D. Football Inc.
November 11th, 2009 at 4:52 pm
Nnamdi21 – First off, thank you because I’m a veteran however, don’t say that our troops of present don’t get to choose when, why and where they fight only because they signed the dotted line knowing full well that it was the military. Maybe some were mislead or something similar but nobody made us do anything. Now, once you’re in the military, you don’t have a say but if they can’t deal with that, then they shouldn’t have signed. It was different times when there was a draft held so that I can understand.
November 11th, 2009 at 4:53 pm
Have a most wonderfull evening NATION!!!
November 11th, 2009 at 5:25 pm
In re: to 24 post 4, JMac has had the worst O-Line in the league, we have scored 78 points this year because of our O-Line, Thin and quick does not get it in the NFL, period! When AL puts some effort into BOTH lines, the Raiders will accend to their rightful place in the AFC west, until that time, blame JMac, that seems to be the the flavor of this blog. The kid has the talent, but like changing coaches, changing inexperienced players hoping for a good result, you still get the same results.
November 11th, 2009 at 5:43 pm
# 4evaRaider Says:
November 11th, 2009 at 4:53 pm
Have a most wonderfull evening NATION!!!
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I can just see you, 4eva..skipping along, purse in hand, pigtails bouncing.
Ahh..the wonder of youth.
November 11th, 2009 at 5:45 pm
Who said he was supposed to be back week 3 ? You ? I predicted at the bye week back when he got hurt, go look.
A broken bone in a foot is not a 1 month injury, get a FKN clue!
# tulare31 Says:
November 11th, 2009 at 1:17 pm
Chaz schilens better play , not only that , he better be very productive . He was supposed to be back in week 3 or week 4.
November 11th, 2009 at 5:46 pm
Racko, you’re still here? The cut and paste queen! Have a cigar!
November 11th, 2009 at 5:48 pm
Mista, we all knew it, we was just hopeing…You know that!
November 11th, 2009 at 5:52 pm
Crister Says:
November 11th, 2009 at 4:46 pm
nick miller must either be barry sanders’ brother from another mother or have incriminating photos of someone high up in raiderland at this point. talk about saving a spot for someone.
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Another example of Al Davis in the way. Imo.
Nick Miller supposedly made Justin Miller expendable on returns.
I guess Brian Schnieder resigned, eh? Jeez, J.Miller ran back 2. Higgins ran back 2.
Doesn’t seem like crony, Fassel’s boy is doing so well.
November 11th, 2009 at 6:00 pm
Kell, we are both oldtimers, when is the last time you saw an O-Line that we have on the field? It collapses before the Q even gets the ball. The D is so pourous because they are knocked on their azzes on the point of contact. We do not have a run stuffing LB of any sort, and the blitz is a bye word? This org is really pizzing me off, this is NOT Raider Football!
November 11th, 2009 at 6:02 pm
Racko, I’m recovering from a broken neck, but no med’s, sorry idiot!
November 11th, 2009 at 6:06 pm
I dont know it. How do you know it? You speaking for someone other than yourself?
# 860Todd Christensen Says:
November 11th, 2009 at 5:48 pm
Mista, we all knew it, we was just hopeing…You know that!
November 11th, 2009 at 6:09 pm
Let’s hope and pray that we can still go 3-3 in the AFC West and squeak out a few more wins – perhaps we will see 4-4 or 5-3. Think about it nation, we certainly didn’t see wins the last two weeks of the season last year. Perhaps we will turn the corner… perhaps.
November 11th, 2009 at 6:10 pm
Mista, give JMac an O-Line and watch him prosper, give him that much, the poor kid has tried to learn by trial by fire, give him an O-Line that can give him 2 sec’s to make a decision, not .02 seconds to make that decision.
November 11th, 2009 at 6:14 pm
860,
Lets give him another 3 years to learn the playbook!
Are you ok with that ?
Lets not fine him or bench him for coming in over weight or sleeping in meetings! The poor guy has a bad o-line!!
860, do you know A Rogers has been sacked 12 times in 2 games? Thats a damn sorry O-line but Rogers isnt stinking up the field. Yes they are losing but he can still compete unlike our loaf.
November 11th, 2009 at 6:29 pm
DEAD MAN WALKIN’!!!!
November 11th, 2009 at 6:48 pm
# Roch R Says:
November 11th, 2009 at 3:51 pm
Some good posts on here, but I’d like to make mention that a boycott and indirectly an action that represents the fans frustration, should not just be aimed at Al Davis, I’d like to suggest that there have been some pretty poor performances by the players. For what ever reason, time and again the players have outright quit on the field. You could pick any blow out loss, but hands down the worst IMO was the Atlanta game last year, but there is plenty to choose from.
Al has made mistakes, but as was well said in a post(s) above, Al spends the money, Al wants to win.
I have questioned at times if the players have wanted to win.
BUT, we’re past the midway point, we’re reasonably healthy again. Time to “reload” and put up on Sunday. It’s a cliche, but one game at a time. KC this Sunday, then Cincy, then Dallas. I said above, 3 in a row would be an amazing stride forward for this franchise, that’s all I want.
Every fan has a right to be frustrated, but we should have more targets than just Al.
^^^^^^^^No…no other targets……Al Davis makes the picks come draft time….and hires lousy coaches to coach players he should have never drafted.
No…..Al Davis is the ONLY target!
November 11th, 2009 at 6:49 pm
Hey,
How about them Trojans aka U of Southern Cheaters? Getting trounced by a team that got trounced by Stanford.
November 11th, 2009 at 6:50 pm
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November 11th, 2009 at 6:50 pm
# 24 Says:
November 11th, 2009 at 4:41 pm
Does it really matter whether this team is healthy or not? Jamarcus Russell is the QB.
^^^^^^^
Yep….and the senile looney stubborn old man named Al Davis is the owner/gm/personnel man/head of ops/head of scouting/wannabe coach/wannabe emperor from star wars.
November 11th, 2009 at 6:52 pm
Yep, SC is HORRIBLE! Worst program in the nation. Pert near the Raiders of the NCAA. Only a complete moron would try and talk sheet about SC, but hey, if the shoe fits….
November 11th, 2009 at 7:17 pm
But hey you’re a “real fan” and let’s go Southern Cheaters…oh i’m sorry I guess they aint going to the BCS game are they?
Oh BTW, what’s it like paying for Reggie Bush and his family to be considered #1 in the country?
November 11th, 2009 at 7:18 pm
Well hell then, lets all just be blind sheep and support him no matter what and just accept the fact that the organization is a total joke.
You cant hear me, but I really am laughing my arse off EVERY time you post the hillarious Scouthern Cheaters line. Very well done.
November 11th, 2009 at 7:18 pm
USC = University of Spoiled Children
Oakland Raiders = Hopeless Waste of Past Glory
Maybe we’ll turn it around sometime soon; as for USC, I LOVE the fact that they are sucking right now …
Go UCLA!
November 11th, 2009 at 7:22 pm
T-Bone,
Where is USC in the BCS poll, havent seen the new one yet.
I know you didnt just say go UCLA….
November 11th, 2009 at 7:28 pm
USC sucking probable has a lot to do with the underclassmen from the team leaving and starting or making serious contributions on sunday…..
How many teams last year lost the starting LB core to the NFL?
USC starting a freshman QB, and losing OCO to coach wash.
FYI, i would take the USC freshmen over JRUSS any day of the week…. He is way more prepared thn JRUSS even as a freshmam….
I am sorry did i say jruss, i meant BRL, or black ryan leaf…
November 11th, 2009 at 7:31 pm
Dude
Every time I log on to this blog, you’re always commenting about USC. This is a Raiders Web Blog, dude.
Go to the USC sight and cry ove there.
I’m sure the committee for the Holiday Bowl is selecting SC for their Bowl game.
See what happens when you stick out your chest and proclaim USC as the BCS champ even before the season starts, I’m laughing my arse off typing this right now.
November 11th, 2009 at 7:34 pm
24 Says:
November 11th, 2009 at 4:41 pm
Does it really matter whether this team is healthy or not? Jamarcus Russell is the QB.
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AMEN !!!!!!!!!!!!
November 11th, 2009 at 7:36 pm
Dell,
Go back up the blog and read you might learn a little something. Like the fact that Alisgod brought SC up in the first place and TBone jumped in. I never said they would be BCS champ. You are not only a complete fool but a liar as well.
November 11th, 2009 at 7:38 pm
Dudett,
I guess it’s kinda hard to win championships when you got caught paying players and their families…I guess that does make it a little hard to try and recruit the best to come to your school. Where was SC before Carroll arrived? What was their losing streak as the Bruins biatch before that? Who’s really blind and have selective memory here?
November 11th, 2009 at 7:38 pm
BRL, 3 years in still looks like garbage…..
Josh Freeman tampa bay rookie looks really good. Doesnt have name brand WR’s but got it done against GB….
November 11th, 2009 at 7:39 pm
Dell,
What number post was I crying about SC by the way? Oh, I wasnt? Your just a flat out liar? Ok, got it.
November 11th, 2009 at 7:41 pm
Dude
You said prior to the College Football season “USC was the best team in College”. Turning the argument around towards me is not going to solve the comment you said a few months back.
I guess, I’m going to just pretend I didn’t read your comment and I will ignore your comments about USC for now on.
November 11th, 2009 at 7:43 pm
Black Ryan Leaf deserves to get cut. Preist you called me out a couple of days ago to respond to BLR’s weight…
Josh Freeman is 6′6″ 248
BRL is 6′6″ what 280? 290? 300?
Fact, cant argue BRL’s dedication he came in out of shape, and is still out of shape. How do you do that as the “leader” of the raiders, and face of the franchise?
Fact, doesnt know the playbook… when did he get the playbook, last week sometime???
November 11th, 2009 at 7:43 pm
Didnt know they got caught paying players. Must have missed when the NCAA punished them. Damn!
Yep, the SC football program was never good untill Pete Carroll arrived. Never went to any Rose Bowls, never had any Heismans, never won any NCs. They were just garbage. LOL! Another quality post by Alisgod.
November 11th, 2009 at 7:44 pm
If anybody was paying attention, the CIA took out John Kennedy, Malcom X, Martin Luther King, Robert Kennedy,and not a thing was done about it. Lemmings! So is our AD lines, they don’t do the 40……….
November 11th, 2009 at 7:46 pm
Here we go again….. Alisgod the liar is once again leaving out where I said “barring injury” but hey, why let the truth get in the way of a good story right Al??
November 11th, 2009 at 7:47 pm
I JUST READ THIS ON TWITTER.
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tunasweasel You can’t make this stuff up. Vernon Gholston injured in a walk through.
about 3 hours ago from UberTwitter
November 11th, 2009 at 7:47 pm
You guys are demanding too much from this team.
Again, its about competing. Can the Raiders compete for 4 QTRs. Give me a string of competitive games…then we can start talking about winning on a consistent basis.
K.C will be an unbelievably tough game because of the Raiders poor coaching and personnel decisions.
I just hope that the players can come out and compete after a bye week!
November 11th, 2009 at 7:47 pm
alisgod,
Who leads the Raiders in carries and rushing yards??
November 11th, 2009 at 7:49 pm
Dude
Liar is such a strong word, how about using the word “factually incorrect”. This will provide any other comments to be observant of facts when we comment back to your comments.
November 11th, 2009 at 7:53 pm
dell,
For you and Aligod….Liar is the correct word. Thanks though.
November 11th, 2009 at 7:54 pm
Dudette,
Sorry is he starting? Yes or No.
When you gonna man up and admit you were wrong. he never started this year at any point even the last 3 games and I believe he is healthy no? Your argument was that he would start. Then you even went as far as to claim when healthy above but nothing in your fcking quote said that.
Who’s the fcking weasel and liar now?
This just proves how much of a pussay and weasel you are….dont thump your chest on here if you aint ready to defend it and be a man about it.
Again, if you gonna claim you wear black in the nfl, then learn to be a man about it.
November 11th, 2009 at 7:58 pm
Where’s Brandon Myers? He’s 2 for 2 in passes thrown his way. Hopefully Cable rediscovered the 2-TE set during the bye week.
Did Russell and the receivers work together at all during the bye or did they just go home and chill out?
This K.C game is no slam dunk. K.C has been more competitive this year than Oakland this year. The Raiders better bring their version of the A game.
And play Chaz Schilens as many snaps as possible. We’ve seen enough from the rookie experiment.
November 11th, 2009 at 7:59 pm
Dude
You never lie? I guess you must be a man of your words.
So let me ask you this, since you never lie, help me out with this decision. I know your answer will be the truth.
What ice cream should I have at this time, Mocha Almond Fudge, Rocky Road, Double Fudge Brownie.
Please think like you were about to grab some, I know you would never lie.
November 11th, 2009 at 8:00 pm
My exact bet with Nevada was he would be starting game 1 vs SD. BARRING INJURY! The quote your posting is the aftermath. Nice try though. Never mind the fact that the dude has the most carries on the club and basically is the starter. You make yourself look like such an idiot holding on sooooo tight to one comment that you are taking completely out of context and making it your little battle cry because you have NOTHING else. Once again I have been proven right.
Lets try this again… Who is leading the Raiders in carries and rushing yards? Simple question. Simple answer.
November 11th, 2009 at 8:01 pm
For a guy who runs around claiming everyone is a liar….I offer the following post.
1. Dude Says:
April 14th, 2009 at 8:12 am
Man alot of you guys are going to be crying in your cheerios when Fargas is starting next year. LOL.
uh Dudette…where in this post are you saying when healthy?
2. Dude Says:
October 19th, 2009 at 7:46 pm
Yesterday was a nice win against a half way decent team.
3. Dude Says:
October 19th, 2009 at 8:50 pm
The fact that the Raiders beat them surely takes them off the “Good” level…
uhh Dudette….Yep now he says he never claimed the Eagles were no good.
You’re right we’re all liars. (sarcasm and cough cough)
November 11th, 2009 at 8:01 pm
Delliar,
Maybe the most rediculous post of all time.
November 11th, 2009 at 8:05 pm
Your the big Post finder. Find it.
You claimed I said the Eagles “sucked”. I didnt. Period. The Eagles havent proven they are a good/great team yet. The fact that they lost to the Raiders is a huge stain on their record. More lying from Aliarisgod.
November 11th, 2009 at 8:06 pm
Still waiting for the answer……
Carries
Yards
November 11th, 2009 at 8:06 pm
SnB,
The real issue this year has been Cable’s poor gameplanning around his talent on the O. We’ve been compettitive in games we play to our level of talent on the O. I mean like not calling 4 vert inside our own 10 yard lines. All of our blownouts happen when we play aggressive with our playcalling. When we move the chain all the sudden the game is much more competitive…regardless of how many points we score.
KC is no cakewalk like alot of people is thinking on here. I believe we will do alright if we stick to a similar conservative gameplan against SD.
November 11th, 2009 at 8:15 pm
Is he starting..Nope.
Is he getting the most carries…Yep.
Is he the defacto starter…Yep
Never said I didnt thump my chest bout SC….So what if I did?
November 11th, 2009 at 8:17 pm
Dear Coach Cable,
That “mountain top” you see is actually a cliff.
signed,
Reality
November 11th, 2009 at 8:17 pm
LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! And the lil beatch is runnin as per usual. Bye bye beatch. Dont forget to lock the door to your trailer and throw away the Natty ice cans. Ni Ni lil liar.
November 11th, 2009 at 8:18 pm
Alisgod,
Remember when you said the Jets and Raiders were basically even on offense and defense?? LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
November 11th, 2009 at 8:21 pm
Alisgod,
Cable’s playcalling has been atrocious. All the guy had to do was keep tweek the playbook and continue calling games similiar to the way they did last year.
Cable was insistent on leaving his mark. He is the offensive coordinator. Ridiculous.
Look, throwing short passes and moving the chains is the right strategy. But we won’t see that.
Look, I accept all of that. I just want to see 4QTRs of hard work. I don’t even care about the result. Give me 4QTRs of hard work and mental discipline. No stupid penalties.
I’ll be happy with that!
They are not good enough to feel overly optimistic about playing anyone. They have to have their collective heads down and start grinding.
November 11th, 2009 at 8:28 pm
Wow..that is all I got to say. What has become of this blog?
Anyways…KC will be a challenge. Its been long time since the Raiders actually put a team away where us fans can walk away in the middle of the 4th and know that we were still victorious. But…
Who will show up this Sunday? That is what will make it or break it on Sunday! (And I am talking about the team)
November 11th, 2009 at 8:28 pm
SnB,
Only a team with real leaders would come out and play like you want. This team is lacking leaders in the 2 most important spots: Head coach and QB.
November 11th, 2009 at 8:32 pm
Agree 100%. But I feel it all rests on the qb. Granted him and cable need to figure it out, but is jr going to put in the work needed to compete on every play, 4 qtrs.? Does the rest of the team have faith in him? Can he make something from a busted play? Just as equal as cables bad callings, so it is jr cannot execute the plays, along with the rest of them. JR needs to inspire the fire in these guys so they can compete, not give it up. Less clubbin, more time on the practice field, in the film room, and take the playbook home and read it.
November 11th, 2009 at 8:37 pm
I agree Islandriader! Only once did any of us read that he came in an hour earlier. Did it help? Granted, Higgins and Murphy ran into each other on that 3rd and forever play…but, what kind of call is it that tells a WR to volley the ball to another WR? Did Cable actually call that? Wow…that’s just as bad as asking Jano to run for a first down (last year vs the Chiefs). Having said that, you’re right, both Cable and JaMarcus need to get it together!!!
November 11th, 2009 at 8:38 pm
BTW: What Island are you from?
November 11th, 2009 at 8:40 pm
[...] Greg Ellis had shoulder surgery as well as knee [...]
November 11th, 2009 at 8:42 pm
Islandraider,
Your last post highlights why I have given up on winning. There is no way a Mike Tomlin or Bill Belicheck would put up with a team filled withplayers that don’t work….don’t do the basics….do even try to be great.
The players should at least play hard…if they are not prepared….
Just stop getting blown out every other week.
November 11th, 2009 at 9:01 pm
Camano Island, WA. It’s pretty evident that somethings really wrong by the way they perform on Sundays. Sure there is some youth, but I don’t buy that. Competing 4 qtrs would be progress. A work in progress? A healthy show of competing is all we ask for. Pathetic, sad but true. I do believe if they can compete week in and out, the wins will follow. They have to. They must. It’s our only hope.
November 11th, 2009 at 9:07 pm
Hello,fellas,just got home and having a vodka on the rocks,followed by a vodka cranberry,in a very tall glass!anyway,after reading the posts of the day,Lonetree and silver-n-smac kicked butt,on EVERY post that I read!!!!!!!Any way,see you all at the game Sunday,four home games left,and I will be at each game,and taking friends w/ME, RAIDERS!!!!!!!
November 11th, 2009 at 9:13 pm
JaMarcus Russell has NEVER thrown for over 300yards in a game in his career…NEVER. Not in College, not in the Pros, not even in High School. Look it up…it’s TRUE.
November 11th, 2009 at 9:15 pm
SnB, I think you really have it figured out. I’m not being funny I really think that. Before you learn how to win you must learn to compete. Once you’ve seen this team compete on a consistent basis the wins will follow. They will manifest themselves. Over the past years this team will come out like gangbusters some games and others you wonder who stole the uniforms. Inconsistency and immaturity has been the hallmark of this team in recent years.
When they demonstarte that they’re ready and willling to compete at a high level everytime out they will not win……….period
If you look at two examples of this in Denver and Cincinnati all your looking at is teams that compete game in and game out until the final whistle blows and then they look at the score board and they’re usually on top.
I learned this a long time ago if you compete on every play the other team will quit and give you the game. More often than not teams lose games much mre than they win them. So the team that compete for 4 qrtrs will win a lot of games. Just on that alone. Most games except for this year are won in the 4th qrtr. Which means the mentally tougher teams win a large % of the time.
We have beaten every team in the league for 3 qrtrs and give them the game in the 4th. How many times have you seen that? Forget who’s fault it is, this is firt and foremost a team game. Teams win individuals lose…….period
November 11th, 2009 at 9:22 pm
Priesttj,
I am very serious too. This team is not as far along as I thought they were at the start of the season. Quite frankly, that falls on Coach Cable. How a team competes one week and completely disappears the next is beyond me. They should have run a boot camp this past summer…instead of a Club Med.
This team needed to be pushed and prodded with an almost ruthless focus on getting the fundamentals right. The fundamentals have killed us. O-Line miscues, QB not getting them lined up, route running, defensive assignments and on and on.
So right now, they have to focus on the basics. Nothing exotic or sophisticated (tell Tom Cable to dial down the playcalling too) and just get this team into some type of rhythm that can be sustained.
November 11th, 2009 at 9:23 pm
Ok,Alisgod and Raiderdell are doin a great job as well,as usual! Just caught up w/ the later posts,wondering if the local haters would like to tailgate with us,over a hundred RAIDER FANS ,having a great time,join us ,haters,cuz I believe NONE of you haters even go to the games,period
November 11th, 2009 at 9:31 pm
You all carry on,talk with you Thursday,out
November 11th, 2009 at 9:33 pm
Happy V Day! I appreciate what our troops do for us, but too bad our gov has it’s own agenda.
November 11th, 2009 at 9:35 pm
RAIDERS!!
November 11th, 2009 at 9:37 pm
I’m the Lizard King, and I can do anything!
Legalize it!
November 11th, 2009 at 9:40 pm
I wrote Pestesize instead of pesticide in my WPA exam. Dude will enjoy this one.
November 11th, 2009 at 9:41 pm
Priesttj
When’s the last time the Raiders developed a Quarterback?
November 11th, 2009 at 9:44 pm
” O-Line miscues, QB not getting them lined up, route running, defensive assignments and on and on.”
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Like clockwork for the past 7 years.
November 11th, 2009 at 9:46 pm
Priest
I don’t understand it, if there’s so much innate knowledge in that building, why haven’t they been able to develop a QB in the last 41 years?
November 11th, 2009 at 9:57 pm
7 straight seasons over in early November. Al Davis is a genius!
November 11th, 2009 at 9:59 pm
Gilbert, 100 Raider fans at your tailgate? Yeh, right! The attendance barely breaks 100 any more.
November 11th, 2009 at 9:59 pm
Priest J: I agree it seems like we give away game in the 4th but the real cuprit is an anemic offense incapable of scoring TDs. Terrible offense has hobbled a pass rush cover D. when teams can sit on the clock and run the ball, were doomed. If the offense can answer and score TD’s wer’e in it when the clock fades and they have to pass.Advantage us. UNLESS our offense can’t get in the end zone without hundreds of plays between…
November 11th, 2009 at 10:00 pm
KoolKell Says:
November 11th, 2009 at 9:41 pm
Priesttj
When’s the last time the Raiders developed a Quarterback?
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Tom Flores? Seriously do you count Plunkett?
November 11th, 2009 at 10:11 pm
Oakland Raider QB’s drafted
JaMarcus Russell 07
Andrew Walter 05
Marques Tuiasosopo 01
Billy Joe Hobert
Todd Maronvich
Steve Beurlein
Jeff Francis
Rusty Hilger
Marc Wilson
Jeff Blount
Ken Stabler
November 11th, 2009 at 10:21 pm
As you can see the track record isn’t very good, so far as the Raiders developing their own Quarterbacks.
November 11th, 2009 at 10:32 pm
Raider Raul Says:
November 11th, 2009 at 9:13 pm
JaMarcus Russell has NEVER thrown for over 300yards in a game in his career…NEVER. Not in College, not in the Pros, not even in High School. Look it up…it’s TRUE.
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“I just think,” LSU coach Les Miles said, “I’ve got the best quarterback in the country.”
Certainly he had the best on this night. The 6-foot-6, 257-pound Russell completed 21 of 34 passes for 332 yards and two touchdowns. He also had his first rushing score of the season and set up another TD with a 31-yard pass.
This was after his last college game vs. Notre Dame in the Sugar Bowl. Didn’t have to look too far.
November 11th, 2009 at 10:50 pm
Russell just needs to lose some weight and get some WRs that can catch the ball.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mx1iaBhEujY&feature=fvw
#80 Dwayne Bowe- 1st rnd Chiefs
#3 Buster Davis- 1st rnd Chargers
#9 Early Doucet- 3rd rnd Cardinals
November 11th, 2009 at 11:23 pm
If you watch that video 504, the first thing you notice is his confidence in the players around him and how free he’s playing. He is sure of himself and those around him. The guy’s around him are making plays. I remember the fisrt time I saw this kid I said whoever gets this kid in 3-4 years is going to win a lot of games and championships.
He also is about 15 lbs. lighter and more agile than he has demonstrated so far in his pro-career. I remember when we first drafted Russell even before we drafted him I said he had thebest skill-set of any QB I had seen since Elway. His ability to throw on the run was flawless. You see glimpses of that talent from time to time now it’s just very intermittent.
If we can evr get his confidence up to that level again and his weight down a little we will have a dominant QB for a very long time. When I say that Russell was as good a QB in the SEC as the Mannings people look at me like I have two heads but it is true.
We haven’t seen it at this level for a variety of reasons but that doesn’t dictate the future only the past. Russell is now just turning 24 years old the age when most QB get drafted or are in their 1st year. He’s just now starting to understand what it takes to be great at this level. Hopefully the beginning of the best part of his career. I think that’s where all the optimism is coming from in these players they are seeing the work he’s putting in paying off in practice at least that’s what I’m hearing out of camp.
So we’ll see….
November 11th, 2009 at 11:30 pm
Also I’ve noticed more and more that the two QB’s he is most compared to Matt Ryan and Flacco are struggling more and more because they are having to be more productive(their coaches are asking them to do more) Ryan especially has dropped off.
They are thowing a lot of picks and can’t read defenses as well as was being made to believe. The NFL has caught up to them and the have a book on them and what they like to do. Now they have to take their game to the next level. Can they?…
November 11th, 2009 at 11:55 pm
# Dude Says:
November 11th, 2009 at 8:28 pm
SnB,
Only a team with real leaders would come out and play like you want. This team is lacking leaders in the 2 most important spots: Head coach and QB.
^^^^^^^^^^Yep….and who’s fault is that? Guess who…Al DAVIS…
November 11th, 2009 at 11:56 pm
# Raider Raul Says:
November 11th, 2009 at 9:13 pm
JaMarcus Russell has NEVER thrown for over 300yards in a game in his career…NEVER. Not in College, not in the Pros, not even in High School. Look it up…it’s TRUE.
^^^^^^Not true….he threw for over 300 and torched ND in the bowl game his last year.
November 12th, 2009 at 12:00 am
# SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
November 11th, 2009 at 9:22 pm
Priesttj,
I am very serious too. This team is not as far along as I thought they were at the start of the season. Quite frankly, that falls on Coach Cable. How a team competes one week and completely disappears the next is beyond me. They should have run a boot camp this past summer…instead of a Club Med.
This team needed to be pushed and prodded with an almost ruthless focus on getting the fundamentals right. The fundamentals have killed us. O-Line miscues, QB not getting them lined up, route running, defensive assignments and on and on.
So right now, they have to focus on the basics. Nothing exotic or sophisticated (tell Tom Cable to dial down the playcalling too) and just get this team into some type of rhythm that can be sustained.
^^^^^^^^We have been saying the same crap for the past 8 weeks and Cable still hasn’t learned. The only games he did a good job of play calling was the 1dt game vs the Dolts and Philly game.
November 12th, 2009 at 4:31 am
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November 12th, 2009 at 10:09 am
JaBustus looks a LOT thinner in those college vids. I thought black was supposed to be slimming – the fat bastard.