Final: Chiefs 16, Raiders 10
By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Sunday, November 15th, 2009 at 4:31 pm in Oakland Raiders.
Scoring
KC_Succop 31-yard field goal, 6:17
Notes:
– First down at own 19, 1:53 left.
Gradkowski to Schillens for 9 yards.
Gradkowski to Johnnie Lee Higgins, first down, 14 yards to the 43-yard line.
Gradkowski scrambles for nine yards to the KC 48.
Less than a minute, McFadden stopped for no gain.
Raiders call time with 44 seconds left.
Gradkowski to Darrius Heyward-Bey toward left sideline at the 26 (doesn’t look like he got it, under review). A 22-yard gain is on the line. Shows how much I know _ ruling on the field stands.
Heyward-Bey bats easily catch up in the air, Mike Brown intercepts.
Chiefs kill clock and win.
– Needing a stop, the Raiders let Jamal Charles carry twice and get a first down, losing valuable clock time. Kolby Smith carries for first down, but Chiefs’ Leonard Pope called for holding. Stops clock at 2:20. Second-and-17.
Chiefs run ball for 10 yards on third-and-17, will punt following two-minute warning.
– Following Chiefs field goal, Gradkowski throws deep incomplete (Murphy can’t hold on to fly out of the slot) and goes three-and-out, taking sack with 4:59 left.
– Chiefs go up by six on Succop 30-yard field goal, a 34-yard, eight-play drive set up by Mike Brown’s deflected interception of Gradkowski and a pass interference call on Nnamdi Asomugha against Dwayne Bowe.
– Third-and-3 Gradkowski pass behind Johnnie Lee Higgins, Brandon Flowers deflects, Mike Brown intercepts, Cheifs get ball at 47.
– Johnnie Lee Higgins fails to field a punt which rolls an additional 13 yaerds for a 61-yard punt.
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November 15th, 2009 at 4:32 pm
Cable says to Haley at the handshake, man we both suck.
November 15th, 2009 at 4:33 pm
Wow, that sucked.
And that interception at the end of the game? It would appear that DHB has supplanted Roberto Duran as having the “Hands of Stone.”
November 15th, 2009 at 4:33 pm
UNFREAKINBELIEVABLE
November 15th, 2009 at 4:34 pm
He cost us the game and he is a bust
November 15th, 2009 at 4:35 pm
At least i am going to watch NE vs Colts a good game
November 15th, 2009 at 4:35 pm
LOL 504 – So true!
November 15th, 2009 at 4:35 pm
“The Ball don’t lie.”
Rasheed Wallace
In reference to when a ref makes a bad call and sends an 85% FT shooter to the line and he misses badly.
That was the replay on DHB and the next play he bobbles it to the Chiefs. Game Over.
November 15th, 2009 at 4:36 pm
Where is Priesttj? I need to be optimistic
November 15th, 2009 at 4:36 pm
lol, seriously, 2 rookie WR was our dream answer to turn this team around? Chaz and Higgins? So much for Watkins, Holland, and Walker, lol. Maybe next year, lol.
November 15th, 2009 at 4:36 pm
Bring back Stick’em.
Seriously. Aside from Schilens and Miller can anyone on this team catch a freaking pass?
Murphy, DHB, Fargas, Lawton, JLH and I think another guy or two all dropped passes today. Some of them several times.
This team needs to go back to the basics — like Pop Warner level instruction.
Ridiculous.
November 15th, 2009 at 4:36 pm
Hey Priest: NOW it’s 0-0 and a fresh start–LOL.
November 15th, 2009 at 4:36 pm
Any chance Al Davis benchs DHB, JR, MCfumble?
November 15th, 2009 at 4:37 pm
Well, we just lost, at home, to one of the worst teams in the league. Yeah, this “No GM” experiment is working out great, dontyathink?
November 15th, 2009 at 4:37 pm
THIS OFFENSE IS “CURSED”!!!!
How can they be that BAD?
November 15th, 2009 at 4:37 pm
Goodbye Cable!
November 15th, 2009 at 4:37 pm
2 weeks to rest and prepare.
November 15th, 2009 at 4:37 pm
That interception wasn’t Gradowski’s fault. HB should have caught that ball.
Gradowski isn’t a great quarterback but he looked a hell of a lot better than Russell.
November 15th, 2009 at 4:38 pm
The Raiders and the Chiefs have just conducted a joint Chinese fire drill. I don’t think I have ever witnessed before two more inept and incompetent teams play a professional football game. How can two teams play so badly and be coached so badly after an investment of millions of dollars and thousands of hours of time and practice?? Can anyone out there give another example of such a complete and total mess as this game??
November 15th, 2009 at 4:38 pm
Heyward-Bey was forced into action.
No one said he was the man coming out of college…Al Davis was the only person on the planet that believes he’s an elite talent.
Oh well….Good game to watch at the end. The Raiders just don’t have enough talent at wide receiver, offensive line or QB to win games.
It will be another 10+ loss season. But at least they competed for 4 QTRs.
November 15th, 2009 at 4:38 pm
DHB= worst rookie WR takn on first rd….BY FARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR.
This kid is gonna be ruined by the end of the year.
November 15th, 2009 at 4:39 pm
To do list:
1. Fire Cable.
2. Draft well in the off season.
I’m done with this team for today.
November 15th, 2009 at 4:39 pm
Fire Cable’s azz tomorrow. Bring in last year’s WR coach as the temp …can’t remember the guys name that came from San Diego.
Que up Harbaugh.
November 15th, 2009 at 4:39 pm
ohioraider Says:
November 15th, 2009 at 4:36 pm
Hey Priest: NOW it’s 0-0 and a fresh start–LOL.
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I can’t wait to hear Priesttj blame Cable for this loss. I can predict what he will say, play calling was bad, JR needed to play blah blah. Give me facts man….
November 15th, 2009 at 4:39 pm
why cant j russ ever throw 4 like 100 yards ?
why cant dhb catch anything? f u k ka couldnt catch swine flu in mexico.
why is kirk morrison a out of place d i l do ?
November 15th, 2009 at 4:40 pm
Lemme see if I got this right. We have about 1/10th of a BILLION dollars into a few draft choices that can’t tie their shoes on the field.
November 15th, 2009 at 4:40 pm
For the public good the NFL needs to:
Force Al Davis to step down (not happening).
Get rid of Cable
Get rid of Haley.
November 15th, 2009 at 4:40 pm
DHB catches every pass like it’s an egg toss.
Get your goddamn hands out there away from your body and snatch the ball out of the air already. You suck.
November 15th, 2009 at 4:41 pm
Hey Chris, is there anything before pop warner level?
Maybe like the object of the game is to win. We don’t play just to get the McDonald’s bags after the game.
November 15th, 2009 at 4:41 pm
“And with the 7th pick in the 2009 draft, the Oakland Raiders select, Darrius Heyward-Bey, WR, Maryland”… wow…
November 15th, 2009 at 4:41 pm
ENGLANDRAIDER Says:
November 15th, 2009 at 4:37 pm
That interception wasn’t Gradowski’s fault. HB should have caught that ball.
Gradowski isn’t a great quarterback but he looked a hell of a lot better than Russell.
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Just like the two long-throws that were dropped/called back weren’t Russell’s fault..or the 10 drops he had to deal with. Gradkowski suffered the same fate.
This team is bad. It reflects the wisdom of a General MAnager and owner who had no clue what he is doing.
I started to pull away from investing too much in this team after that Giants debacle…and then sealed it with that Jets game.
Its a terrible team folks. At least they came out and tried to win this week. 4 QTRs of football
November 15th, 2009 at 4:42 pm
I just want to know if AL Davis will bench JR, DHB and DMAC? 85 mill wasted
November 15th, 2009 at 4:42 pm
What more did you expect from a toilet bowl game? And the toilet seat palyer of the game goes to: The entire Oakland organiztion, from the top to the bottom.
November 15th, 2009 at 4:42 pm
What a bunch of losers! What’s with Holland? Why is he even on the team. Put McFadden back there because he’s got nothing else going on. Bench JaBustus – a king size loser. Let Gradkowsi practice with the 1st squad and play a full game. So what if he loses – JaBustus would have lost it anyway. Fire the WR coach. He can’t teach! I, like the rest of you on here am tired of losing. We just need to really change things around. Where do you begin? Everywhere!
November 15th, 2009 at 4:42 pm
The players tried to win.
Cable spent the whole game trying to keep a job in which he is in over his head.
Al Davis spent the whole game studying the fastest players in college.
November 15th, 2009 at 4:43 pm
doriangray Says:
November 15th, 2009 at 4:39 pm
why cant j russ ever throw 4 like 100 yards ?
why cant dhb catch anything?
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Because the Owner hires bad coaches…and drafts players that aren’t ready for NFL action based on physical performance at the Combine.
That’s why! All of these players would be much better on another team with structure, discipline and real professional NFL caliber coaching.
The Raiders don’t have that….hence the results.
November 15th, 2009 at 4:44 pm
Y can’t this team do anything on offense?
When is the last time they didn’t go
3 and out, twice in a row? I’m tell y’all this
team is cursed, AL Davis is….can’t even
think of a word. Crazy!!
November 15th, 2009 at 4:44 pm
SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
November 15th, 2009 at 4:41 pm
At least they came out and tried to win this week. 4 QTRs of football
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Do you call this trying SnB? If this trying to win then we will never win again period. Defense giving up big plays, offense sucks, we playing against a bad team KC and we tried to win. Please enlighten me who tried to win?
November 15th, 2009 at 4:45 pm
I think the biggest mistake made was putting this team in Russell’s hands right off the bat. This dude needs to sit a three seasons behind a vet, but even then he probably wouldn’t cut it.
What a blunder.
November 15th, 2009 at 4:45 pm
JaDarrenBey strikes again
awesome drafting
November 15th, 2009 at 4:45 pm
I keep reading how player x,y,z is “regressing” …to me that says coaching. period.
November 15th, 2009 at 4:46 pm
I wish Cable was rich. Then he would hopefully resign.
November 15th, 2009 at 4:46 pm
DHB is the worst receiver in the league, period.
Gradkowski is light years better than Jamarcus. He is much more accurate on all of his passes. He needs to start next week.
Al Davis is no longer fit to make football decisions concerning personnel and the everyday operations of the team.
Anyone who can’t see that is a fool.
November 15th, 2009 at 4:46 pm
These guys just can’t catch the football. A lot of this miserable season boils down to that.
The defense has been good enough. The running game has been average. The passing game is horrendous. Half that has to do with JaMarcus. Half has to do with receivers who can’t catch. How many drives were killed by dropped passes in this game? Forget the drops. I’m still waiting for a WR to go up and make a nice, NFL level catch … 9 games into the season.
Also, JLH was absolutely atrocious in this game. Aside from dropped passes and stupid mistakes in the return game, I’m not sure he’s made a defender miss this season. I’m not kidding.
November 15th, 2009 at 4:47 pm
10 dropped passes ..
10 pts left on the board with the DHB drop and the Jano miss.
ridiculous penalties that killed sooooo many first downs.
No different that the young WRs killing the drives at the end, and JLH playing scared dropping balls.
I just can’t get past all the penalties and dropped balls, man. Coming off of a bye week, to still be so unprepared in just not cool, man!
There is absolutely no excuse for Bush not having only 14 carries with the type of game he was having. Cable is just in over his head, man!
November 15th, 2009 at 4:48 pm
The only stretch of football where we have played well in the last decade involved having a GM and coach who were not afraid of the boss.
Of course, they were shown the door for exactly that. And back into mediocrity we went.
November 15th, 2009 at 4:48 pm
what were the people at the stadium even doing there ???
i live in san diego area and i will admit there were times i was jealous that i didnt live in the bay area and was not able to get to the black whole every sunday.
but i can’t believe there were people in the stands to watch that crap.
PATHETIC !!!!!!!!!!!!
November 15th, 2009 at 4:48 pm
M listening to the postgame show and that embarrasment of an announcer Papa is litterally trying to get Mike Bush to blame the refs. Hes actually asking him about specific penalties….What a joke of an organization.
November 15th, 2009 at 4:48 pm
Good game by Bush though. Granted it was against the chiefs.
November 15th, 2009 at 4:49 pm
Cable’s an idiot. PERIOD!
Benching the QB when he had like 10 drops on him? Still in the game AND couldn’ve been in the lead if not for the drops? I mean Com’on!
And screw this 3RB rotation crap! You saw Kiffin do that sht? Stick with 2 at the most.
November 15th, 2009 at 4:49 pm
How hard is it to catch a pass? I’ve never seen anything like this.
November 15th, 2009 at 4:49 pm
The whole offense has “regressed”
November 15th, 2009 at 4:50 pm
when are we AT LEAST firing the wide receivers coach????
time to start thinking of who the next head coach is gonna be. this team is gonna phone it in the rest of the way. and so it continues, the longest streak in NFL HISTORY of double digit losses. damn, this team sucks.
November 15th, 2009 at 4:51 pm
At this point, it doesn’t matter who the QB is, IMO.
Whoever your preference is, Grads, Frye, or Russell, it really doesn’t matter. The WRs can’t catch the ball, and even when they do, it comes back because of a stupid penalty.
Props to the defense for hanging in there, although they continue to make a lot of bone headed plays.
The coaching staff is overwhelmed, plain and simple.
November 15th, 2009 at 4:52 pm
I love you guys who think firing Cable is the answer. Geniuses one and all.
November 15th, 2009 at 4:53 pm
Raiders should have won…AGAIN.
Damn, that Heyward-Bey SUCKS A$$.
How come we can NEVER win a freaking game when it’s on the line. If this were the Chiefs going down the field in the end with a chance to win…Cassell finds a receiver in the endzone and the Chiefs win…But God forbid this POS Raider team does it.
LOSERS TO THE CORE.
WORST TEAM IN NFL ONCE AGAIN.
LOSING AT HOME TO THE F’ING CHIEFS???
SOMEBODY NEEDS TO BE FIRED NOW!!!!!!!!!!
November 15th, 2009 at 4:53 pm
F CABLE
November 15th, 2009 at 4:55 pm
Ohio …
You should listen to the guy talk now in his PC, lol!
November 15th, 2009 at 4:55 pm
What OHIO RAIDER? You think his 6-15 record makes him a Vince Lombardi?
You are the fool dumbazz.
November 15th, 2009 at 4:55 pm
listen to ksfo560.com
November 15th, 2009 at 4:55 pm
I wouldn’t call DHB a bust yet. I think his QB plays a huge role in his development. There’s a cover story on SI on Peyton Manning and a rookie WR named Collie (?) and it tells how much time Manning spends w/ this guy going over plays and practicing off hours. A good qb w/ a strong work ethic having confidence in a player–huge difference.
November 15th, 2009 at 4:56 pm
Cable, right now is blaming the QB …what a joke. Dude is out of his mind and out of his league. Blaming the QB for the lack of offense. What a joke!
HOW ABOUT GET SOMEBODY TO CATCH THE BALL – COACH!
Ask Tolliner what the f is going on if you want get to the bottom of something.
Like Gradkowski coming in was a saving grace. Get the f outta here. Dude went 3 & out then threw and INT driving to the endzone. The last drive the WR were WIDE OPEN – he’s just lucky they caught it this time around.
Cable is going to get fired. I hope Al wastes no time. Get Harbaugh in here asap! before Cable ruins our youth even more.
November 15th, 2009 at 4:56 pm
Top 5 pick again – the fastest 40 whatever…
November 15th, 2009 at 4:57 pm
Why not Cable, you were only down 3 pts, lol!
We never had a chance to go back to the wildcat with McFadden?
Unbelievable!
November 15th, 2009 at 4:57 pm
During the preseason, after the seasonally obligatory “Ten Questions for the Raiders” article ran, I only partly facetiously asked: Will Darrius Heyward-Bey catch more passes than he drops? Well, has anybody logged the stats on this?
Al, you cagey old genius you…
November 15th, 2009 at 4:57 pm
Saw the game on Directv Supercast. No blackouts!!
Man- DHB looked foolish on that drop. The ball could not have been thrown better. Right on the numbers. Somehow he gets his knee up there and volleyballs it up for an interception. Al had a wet fart watching that!! Another reason for laughs tomorrow and all week long for the haters. Another reason to scoff at the draft picks and all else. The Raiders are never going to come out of this tailspin. 7 years, but really 25 if you go back to being unbeatable in the 70’s and early 80’s.
Man it’s embarrassing to be a fan of this team. All my raider gear is locked away until this ends. My kids raider suit is a piece of garbage. Threw it away a couple weeks ago. I hate you Al Davis. I hate this team!
November 15th, 2009 at 4:58 pm
Fire Cable – RIGHT NOW!
November 15th, 2009 at 4:58 pm
Face it, people: true change will not come until our GM, Player/Personnel and Director of Scouting positions are not all filled by one 80-year-old man who still believes that 1970s-style football can win in today’s NFL, and that raw speed is better than everything else (for example, DHB is a better track athlete than either Maclin or Crabtree, but the latter two are better *football players*).
November 15th, 2009 at 4:59 pm
Cable sitting here talking about how the WRs dropping the ball 8 times not being good despite good throws, and the huge Murphy play that was brought back.
Why bench the guy then dude!
And keep DHB on the field and not bring in Chaz?
LMFAO!
November 15th, 2009 at 5:00 pm
Terp is lying through his teeth. Cable has not blamed the QBs whatsoever. He has already talked about the WRs droppn balls.
Terp didnt watch the game. Period.
November 15th, 2009 at 5:00 pm
DHB says that the coaches feel that he is “grading out well” We can all feel good about that. Contrary to the popular belief that he is a comlete bust he and his coaches feel he’s actually playing very well.
November 15th, 2009 at 5:01 pm
This is asinine. Cable is saying he took Russell out b/c of 2 freakin’ plays he missed or messed up on. 2 freakin’ plays!
Al fire this guy!
November 15th, 2009 at 5:01 pm
# Culebra Says:
Culebra Says:
November 15th, 2009 at 4:55 pm
I wouldn’t call DHB a bust yet. I think his QB plays a huge role in his development. There’s a cover story on SI on Peyton Manning and a rookie WR named Collie (?) and it tells how much time Manning spends w/ this guy going over plays and practicing off hours. A good qb w/ a strong work ethic having confidence in a player–huge difference.
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JaBusus has noted this and has made arrangements for he, Heyward-Bey & DMac to meet at MickyD’s for some cheeseburgers. They’re going to bond over some supersize! The TriFecta – 3 losers in a row!
November 15th, 2009 at 5:02 pm
Cable say he benched Russell because of 2 plays he thought he read wrong.
Says that he will have a decision on Gradkowski starting the rest of the season tomorrow. He better start Gradkowski the rest of the season, lol!
November 15th, 2009 at 5:02 pm
ohioraider Says:
November 15th, 2009 at 4:52 pm
I love you guys who think firing Cable is the answer. Geniuses one and all.
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I would love for AL Davis to die but that wont happen.
November 15th, 2009 at 5:03 pm
Terrapin,
You are such a fool. Shut your face before you completely embarrass yourself. Quit posting lies.
November 15th, 2009 at 5:03 pm
2 weeks off to rest and prepare. It’s a team effort. Wait, it’s an organizational effort. Sad.
This dysfunction has come home to roost.
November 15th, 2009 at 5:04 pm
DHB can single handedly take the blame for this loss. A straight drop on what would have been 1st and Goal (if not a TD) and likely kept Jamarcus in the game.
Then to prove he’s an equal opportunity kind of guy, he gives away what would have been a game winning drive to put Gradkowski in position to give the team a shot of excitement.
Especially blows when guys like Percy Harvin and Maclin are big parts of their teams. Even Crabtree has more catches in a couple games without training camp etc… That pick killed me then and is killing me now. Jackasses!
November 15th, 2009 at 5:04 pm
How about them Raiders??? Lol
November 15th, 2009 at 5:05 pm
Cable absolutely blamed the loss on the QB, and then in the exact same breath says that the WRs have to catch the balls and make plays.
Dude you are wrong.
Terrapin is right about what Cable is saying, talking out of both sides of his ass.
Bottom line is regardless of who the QB is, the WRs need to catch the damn ball. Murphy should have caught that deep pass that Grad threw, DHB got lucky on that sideline route b/c he was outta bounds, and DHB needs to make that catch at the end of the game.
Just like the WRs need cathc the 10 balls they dropped for Russell.
November 15th, 2009 at 5:05 pm
cmon Bhp,,tell us all is well,,,”2nd half of the season” ,, high scoring O.,,,, once he gets it? get what,3years and this is it? wow something to look forward to eh?
noob.,x
November 15th, 2009 at 5:05 pm
2 freakin’ plays. Cable how many other plays did your QB run and did it right? Are you f’n kiddin me? 2 freakin’ plays@!!!!
2 count’em 2! deep strikes to the WRs …one dropped and one call back on a phantom call. damn near 10 dropped passes!!!
Score 13-10 and you bench the QB??? for 2 freakin’ plays!!!
What a joke for a HC. I never had a great feeling about this guy when he took over for Kiffin. Thought he was over his head then …I definitely do now!
November 15th, 2009 at 5:07 pm
He never once blamed the QBs. Just because he said they didnt play good enough dznt mean he blaming them. Said the WRs didnt catcht he ball well either. Period.
November 15th, 2009 at 5:08 pm
I actually agree with the benching, Terrapin, but it should have happened in week 2.
If Cable is going to insist on running this WCO, timing stuff, then Gradkowski’s scrambling might be the way to go.
It’s not going to make too much of a difference with this group of WRs though.
November 15th, 2009 at 5:08 pm
Terrapin the moron is acting like Russell has been a Pro Bowler all year up untill the ” 2 plays” hes screaming about. LOL!
Terp, Did you WATCH the game?
November 15th, 2009 at 5:09 pm
Lets not rule out that call came from up top. Cable being the yes man he is naturally is gonna say he made the move. Als’ just laying the foundation for cause.
November 15th, 2009 at 5:10 pm
I’m speechless.
November 15th, 2009 at 5:10 pm
I don’t agree with the benching AT ALL! Russell is waaayyy better than Gradkowski. Gradkowski aint gonna take this team anywhere. period. so why waste the time?
November 15th, 2009 at 5:10 pm
Terrapin, how many plays did JR overthrew his WRs? answer me that question
November 15th, 2009 at 5:10 pm
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November 15th, 2009 at 5:11 pm
Al Davis, please go away sir
November 15th, 2009 at 5:11 pm
jaymee siree’s talking to chaz schilens. dude impresses me more and more on and off the field. schilens shoulda been thrown to way more today. caught 3 outta the 4 passes that went to him. the only one he didnt catch wouldnt of been caught by anyone. GET SCHILENS MORE INVOLVED!!!
November 15th, 2009 at 5:11 pm
Terrapin DID NOT watch the game, his opinion means nothing.
November 15th, 2009 at 5:11 pm
Dude Says:
November 15th, 2009 at 5:07 pm
He never once blamed the QBs. Just because he said they didnt play good enough dznt mean he blaming them. Said the WRs didnt catcht he ball well either. Period.
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He did, Dude! What’s your issue?
You really don’t think that he was talking about why he benched the QB? You don’t think that benching the QB is blaming him for the lack of production?
What are you talking about?!?!
He flat out said that on the 2 plays right before he benched him, he read the play wrong and went to the wrong guy. I think that’s pretty funny because that last pass to the TE Meyers was the right read, he just threw an inaccurate pass.
Bottom line is Cable doesn’t know his ass from his elbows. Benching the QB for 2 bad plays when he lets Murphy and DHB stay in is CRAZY!
Those SAME TWO ROOKIE WRs dropped the SAME fuggin balls for Gradkowski, lol!
November 15th, 2009 at 5:11 pm
I think Clippers fans can start laughing us now.
November 15th, 2009 at 5:14 pm
Get another damn coach in here. Fire Cable, Tolliner and Hackett ….the whole offense has regressed. For half of the season they couldn’t even run the ball right.
When Kiffin was here, that’s one thing “these same players” did VERY well and CONSISTENTLY WELL.
Cable takes over they all of a sudden forget. One good game running doesn’t make a season.
Cable is a freakin’ idiot. Scapegoats the QB for his and his assistant’s lame ass coaching. WR can’t catch a cold in Alaska. RBs, same freakin’ story. DMC drop. Fargas drop.
Al sees thru this crap. Cable is as good as gone.
November 15th, 2009 at 5:14 pm
Dude Says,,i hope thats sarcasm,,cause thats a need to win game,jhill use tivo if your unsure,,,,
November 15th, 2009 at 5:15 pm
Raiders4eve Says:
November 15th, 2009 at 5:10 pm
Terrapin, how many plays did JR overthrew his WRs? answer me that question
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Russell was 9/24 with 10 CLEAR drops. 5 drops in the 1st frickin qtr. That would be 19/24, so you tell me how many passes he overthrew.
I know you expect the guy to be 100% and all, but gawd damn!
November 15th, 2009 at 5:15 pm
Russell: I thought I played pretty well, the receivers had some drops, pass the ketchup.
November 15th, 2009 at 5:16 pm
Its not hackets fault,,its aggressive cable
November 15th, 2009 at 5:16 pm
Swing and a miss on the last three 1st rounders, and they all happen to play offense. No salary cap would be a blessing. The Raiders SHOULD cut their loses and bring in a few veterans to start next season. Yeah, you’ll probably going to have to do a “Vince Young” on JaMarcus. McFadden – he may go way of Cedric Benson – won’t do much here, perhaps needs a new start. DHB – too early to give up on him, but he needs the Cliff Branch treatment as he is a BIG project. The pendulum swang in both directions last two years – not playing enough youth doomed Kiffin (among other things shown from the overhead projecter) and playing TOO much youth is going to doom Cable. Biggest loser in the group isn’t with the team. Stupid Garcia… at least he can sleep good at night if you know what I mean…
November 15th, 2009 at 5:16 pm
At least Terrapin loves you Russell.
November 15th, 2009 at 5:16 pm
Jhill,
Did Tom Cable say “The QBs lost this game”?? Yes or no.
November 15th, 2009 at 5:17 pm
Mac,
Uh, what?
November 15th, 2009 at 5:17 pm
We’re going to have a really high draft choice in the first round.
Anyone really speedy?
November 15th, 2009 at 5:17 pm
engaland engaland,,,engaland ,,,
November 15th, 2009 at 5:18 pm
oh, and 8-0 means something entirely different, rookie Murphy.
November 15th, 2009 at 5:18 pm
Terrapin, so when Al does scapegoat Cable for all of his own incompetence does that mean the team is on the road to respectability? Are you so moronic as to actually believe this?
November 15th, 2009 at 5:19 pm
supersize! The TriFecta – 3 losers in a row!
73.jhill Says:
November 15th, 2009 at 5:02 pm
Cable say he benched Russell because of 2 plays he thought he read wrong.
Says that he will have a decision on Gradkowski starting the rest of the season tomorrow. He better start Gradkowski the rest of the season, lol!
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JHill,
It really is hopeless now. The only chance this team has going forward….I mean next year and beyond…is for Al Davis to just change. THat’s it. If that doesn’t happen…the losses will continue as they have for 15+ years.
DHB, Russell, DMAC, Huff, Gallery, Murphy had the misfortune of being drafted by the worst franchises in the last 20 years. They get lousy coaching and are asked to be superstars immediately…and that they are expected to do this in a scheme that is archaic.
Of course, they got bank (not Murphy) so at least I can’t feel too sorry for them.
November 15th, 2009 at 5:19 pm
Terrapin, in the spirit on one Raider Nation you should pass that stuff around that you’re using.
For those who wear glasses you should also name your optician.
November 15th, 2009 at 5:19 pm
Dude Says:
November 15th, 2009 at 5:16 pm
Jhill,
Did Tom Cable say “The QBs lost this game”?? Yes or no.
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Dude,
I’m not going to play your silly game of questions. You say you saw the game, you say you heard the post game show, so you know the answer to that.
Cable said that the QB was 0/9 on 3rd down.
Cable said the QB was inaccurate.
Cable said the QB made the wrong read on the 2 plays right before he pulled him.
He said the he is looking at starting Gradkowski for the rest of the season.
Now you tell me what that says, lol!
November 15th, 2009 at 5:19 pm
Flores just said DHB was almost ‘in tears’ on the sideline. HE SHOULD BE. HE FUGGING SUCKS. HE IS A PIECE OF $HIT LOSER.
Why did he jump up? He didn’t have to.
The WR’s coach’s job is to tell him how to catch if he doesn’t know how. He should know how dam-mit.
November 15th, 2009 at 5:19 pm
dez bryant anyone?
November 15th, 2009 at 5:19 pm
Like I say, gradkowski is a capable QB, he actually can deliver the ball to WRs, bring them into the game. If he got starter reps all week he would play better than a few snaps here and there every month at the end of a 4th qtr.
Also, as much as DHB is a project etc etc, I really do like DHB. I think he’ll turn out fine in a couple years. Cant call him a bust after 9 games when everyone wants to give Russell 20 years before calling him a bust.
And DHB being angry and cut with himself down on a knee after the INT shows he cares, that he tries. And that will always endear.
November 15th, 2009 at 5:19 pm
The only way the Raiders will win again is if the NFL cancels the combine.
November 15th, 2009 at 5:19 pm
replay,,jhill,,tivo if your unsure
November 15th, 2009 at 5:20 pm
1-2-3 Last Place!!! (again)
November 15th, 2009 at 5:20 pm
Cable was saying ..not an exact quote but: “lack of production on offense was the difference in the game and is why i pulled the QB” ….
Then in the same damn breathe drops the daisy: “dropped passes …that was the difference in this game”
Damn IDIOT!
November 15th, 2009 at 5:20 pm
I’m contradicting myself. I’ve been ‘Cable-ized”.
November 15th, 2009 at 5:20 pm
What’s the difference between Gradkowski and JaMarcus … $60 million.
November 15th, 2009 at 5:20 pm
Cant have it both ways
November 15th, 2009 at 5:21 pm
Al Davis really needs to go the veteran route. I was a proponent of the youth movement because you can’t win in the NFL with veteran clubs anymore…at least not sustained.
I don’t really care much. Apathy has set in for me.
November 15th, 2009 at 5:22 pm
9/24 with 10 drops, lol!
You do realize that 9+10 = 19, right!
19/24?
Yeah I see why the QB is the issue.
Grads and Russell have NO chance with this Oline giving up ridiculous penalties, and the WRs dropping balls.
November 15th, 2009 at 5:22 pm
It’s that dasmn Cable! That’s what the problem is!
All we need to do is get rid of Cable then everything will be fine!
Terrapin! Pass that stuff around!
November 15th, 2009 at 5:22 pm
Raideralex99..
actually gradkowski is more capable than Russell as a qb. not just the 60million.
November 15th, 2009 at 5:23 pm
mac Says:
November 15th, 2009 at 5:19 pm
replay,,jhill,,tivo if your unsure
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Not sure what you think I am unsure of, Mac!
November 15th, 2009 at 5:23 pm
Jhill,
No thats a “no”. Thanks.
Did the Qbs play well? Yes or no? Answer: No
Did the Wrs play well? Answer: No
Offense the reason the Raiders lost? Yes.
Your actually coming off as defending Russell and claiming he played well. That makes you a fool.
November 15th, 2009 at 5:24 pm
Time for some REAL NFL football by REAL NFL teams with REAL NFL players and REAL NFL coaches – Not the schit we’re forced to watch.
November 15th, 2009 at 5:25 pm
Wassup GG,
Lots to talk about tonight, lol!
So you didn’t like Russell 19/24 performance?
Oh, forgot about the 10 drops.
I mean 9/24, lol!
November 15th, 2009 at 5:25 pm
ENGLANDRAIDER,,where you at?,,hopefully a nice hostilery,lol,,not watchin this on sky? they wouldnt have it lol
November 15th, 2009 at 5:26 pm
GG,
Don’t fall for the Raider disease…Overrating talent like Gradkowski. He’s to the QB position what Terdell Sands was to the DT position. Gradkowski would be out of the league if not for the Raiders.
Russell is a bust…but you have to expect that given the Raiders have never developed their own QB in their entire history….Stabler was one…sorry…but regardless, Al Davis doesn’t respect the coaching profession enough to develop young talent.
They have to go get veterans…a team full of them and just try and compete each week.
Sadly, this team will never win until Al Davis steps down from making the GM decisions
November 15th, 2009 at 5:26 pm
maybe they need to go back to finger-counting JHill …b/c these boys just can’t add.
9+10=19!!!! 19/24= 79%!!!!! in some 3Qs of play …
but oh-no accd’g to our brilliant (being absolutely sarcastic here) coach …this QB needed benching.
November 15th, 2009 at 5:27 pm
Your actually coming off as defending Russell and claiming he played well. That makes you a fool.
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Ran out of football material already, huh?
LOL!
That was quick.
Russell had 10 drops, yes or no?
10 drops added to the 9 equals 19/24, yes or no?
I don’t even know why you try Dude.
November 15th, 2009 at 5:27 pm
Guys, no need to panic. We’re getting ready to turn the corner.
November 15th, 2009 at 5:28 pm
GG a voice of reason,,if only bhp were here to enjoy it,,hey trolls,, did she get the tics for 16?,lol
November 15th, 2009 at 5:28 pm
79% completion percentage factoring in the drops and you all lambaste the QB. And the stupid coach benches him.
Fire CAble’s azz tomorrow, that was all I needed to see.
November 15th, 2009 at 5:28 pm
This team has 5 decent players on the entire roster that could start on another team. I am not counting kickers and punters.
Asomugha, Seymour, Miller, Ellis, Howard
November 15th, 2009 at 5:29 pm
Deion Sanders just said on NFL network, in regard to DHB, that there is no way a first round pick at WR should be THAT BAD.
November 15th, 2009 at 5:29 pm
Mac: No, watched it through NFL and the cable connecting my computer to my tv.
Wasn’t going to do it but I just knew that Russell would be outstanding.
Too bad Cable messed him up.
Bloth of these teams should be relegated.
November 15th, 2009 at 5:30 pm
completions to who?
November 15th, 2009 at 5:30 pm
Russell had a very nice series of two deep throws—the drop by DHB and the murphy holding call. But otherwise he sprayed the ball all over the field badly. Chiefs dropped 2-3 INTs. He grassed a few balls too.
Russell is ok dumping off to the flats etc, but the problem is he can only manage that. This isn’t a Vertical Dump Offense.
Gradkowski can bring the WRs into the play. Especially if he gets starter reps week in week out, and starts a game, he’ll be far more COMPETENT at least. Not a great talent but more competent, Raiders converting 50% 3rd downs, DHB getting more receptions per game etc.
Same with Frye.
If Cable really does bench Russell for the season, what would that mean for Russell? Cut end of the year? Traded? I guess it’d be like A.Smith situation in Niners after he got benched for a long time. Whether he could actually prove that he could earn a starting role, but with where he’s at right now, hard to see him doing that. But just “oh well, i got $40m”.
November 15th, 2009 at 5:30 pm
There are two things that are sure to help the Raiders.
1) A can of gas
2) A match
November 15th, 2009 at 5:30 pm
We’re getting ready to turn the corner but unfortumatley Russell’s driving the car.
November 15th, 2009 at 5:31 pm
Terrapin Says:
November 15th, 2009 at 5:26 pm
maybe they need to go back to finger-counting JHill …b/c these boys just can’t add.
9+10=19!!!! 19/24= 79%!!!!! in some 3Qs of play …
but oh-no accd’g to our brilliant (being absolutely sarcastic here) coach …this QB needed benching.
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It’s just ridiculous, Terrapin.
Half of these dudes have ZERO interest in really improving our team. I think they take more pleasure in bashing us while we are down.
The DHB drop, the Murphy play called back due to penalty, Jano’s missed FG, 10 drops, other penalties that killed first downs …
I mean CMON!
That is just the team NOT being prepared! Including Russell and his 5 actual misses, lol! I mean, how dare he not get that other 21% of his passes in the receivers hands?
November 15th, 2009 at 5:31 pm
engaland,,lol me too,great to read these comments tho,,lol
November 15th, 2009 at 5:32 pm
# raidasteve Says:
November 15th, 2009 at 5:27 pm
Guys, no need to panic. We’re getting ready to turn the corner.
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haha, can imagine Cable will be saying this and Russell in post-match PC’s, and during training….we is becoming more deadly.
November 15th, 2009 at 5:32 pm
LMAO JHill
November 15th, 2009 at 5:32 pm
Fire Cable’s azz but keep Cable Terrapin.
November 15th, 2009 at 5:33 pm
Keep blaming the coaches and players folks.
Al Davis is the beginning, middle and end of all this.
I bet that the next 1st round pick for the RAiders refuses to sign….unless of course he is a mega reach.
I wouldn’t play for the Raiders if I were a high draft pick. I would advice someone to hold out.
Why?
You get substandard coaching and it will ruin your career.
Gallery, Huff, DMAC, Russell, DHB all busts….21 of 24 1st & 2nd round picks are busts.
9 coaches in the last 20 years…..sure blame the players and coaches.
Al Davis is incompetent and it shows. He was only good when he had others making decisions. And don’t blame age either….he’s been incompetent for a long time.
He doesn’t know football and it shows on the field and in practice.
November 15th, 2009 at 5:33 pm
How dear Russell not get over than 21% inaccuracy~! …dman loser!
79% just aint gonna cut it in this league!
November 15th, 2009 at 5:33 pm
10 drops? Thats your opinion as there is no official stat on that. There were definitley dropd passes but Russell was not accurate as per usual and just doesnt do the things it takes to move an offense.
JHill,
Do you believe Russell does enough that this offense SHOULD be succesful?
November 15th, 2009 at 5:34 pm
jhill,,great deduction,,lol,,wank play = wank production.
November 15th, 2009 at 5:34 pm
2 weeks off to rest and prepare. Brutal. Sad but true. The offense had plenty of chances. Its a team effort. And that includes Al.
November 15th, 2009 at 5:35 pm
At last the Raiders have unveiled an offense to rival the feared “Bed and Breakfast”: This year’s dreaded “Dink and Drop.” The Bust-bug is spreading rapidly.
November 15th, 2009 at 5:36 pm
GG Says:
November 15th, 2009 at 5:30 pm
Russell had a very nice series of two deep throws—the drop by DHB and the murphy holding call. But otherwise he sprayed the ball all over the field badly. Chiefs dropped 2-3 INTs. He grassed a few balls too.
Russell is ok dumping off to the flats etc, but the problem is he can only manage that. This isn’t a Vertical Dump Offense.
Gradkowski can bring the WRs into the play. Especially if he gets starter reps week in week out, and starts a game, he’ll be far more COMPETENT at least. Not a great talent but more competent, Raiders converting 50% 3rd downs, DHB getting more receptions per game etc.
Same with Frye.
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GG, stop. The fact that we are talking about tomato cans like Gradkowski, Frye and Russell shows how bad things are.
ITs hopeless. If you want to delude yourself…fine…throw your faith in players with no NFL talent that a real team would cut in camp.
Actually, that the same delusion Davis employs.
Sometimes things are just plain bad and broken down. This is one of the worst teams in NFL history. They would be headed to 0-16 had K.C knuckled up and Andy Reid ran the football….just like the 2006 team was a 0-16 capable team.
Its a bad team and a horrible franchise. I just enjoy watching Raider football because there is only 16 of them a year.
but don’t expect them to win…..apathy has set in!
November 15th, 2009 at 5:37 pm
Oh and let me be clear that I dont believe Russell should EVER be benched in favor of Bruce Gradkowski no matter how bad hes playing. Russell sux but Gradkowski is not the answer. That being said. To act as if Russell dznt deserve ridicule borders on lunacy.
November 15th, 2009 at 5:37 pm
glad i’m no longer paying to see this embarrassing display of ineptitude. can’t be much worse waste of time than spending 4 hours at the oakland-alameda county coliseum.
November 15th, 2009 at 5:38 pm
To catch one of Russell’s passes you have to be eight feet tall and have arms as long the tall tales that Cable’s going to tell next week.
You also have to be somewhere other than where Russell thinks you will be.
November 15th, 2009 at 5:40 pm
djohnnyg Says:
November 15th, 2009 at 5:29 pm
Deion Sanders just said on NFL network, in regard to DHB, that there is no way a first round pick at WR should be THAT BAD.
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But is anyone surprised? That’s my question? This isn’t like drafting a Michael Crabtree or Larry Fitzgerald and him busting out…everyone knew this kid couldn’t play right from the start.
He could have fallen as far as the 3rd round.
But the owner decided to put the spotlight on him and draft him based on his 40x. The owner doesn’t know football and he makes decisions.
Its as simple as that.
November 15th, 2009 at 5:40 pm
Gradowoski, or preferably Frye, should be told they’re starting at the beginning of this week not long after Russell’s done throwing the ball no where in particular.
November 15th, 2009 at 5:40 pm
Dude Says:
November 15th, 2009 at 5:33 pm
10 drops? Thats your opinion as there is no official stat on that. There were definitley dropd passes but Russell was not accurate as per usual and just doesnt do the things it takes to move an offense.
JHill,
Do you believe Russell does enough that this offense SHOULD be succesful?
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Now we have to ask if YOU watched the game if you are really going to sit here and say the 10 drops were my opinion, lol!
The posted a stat at the end of the first qtr ON TV that said there were 5 drops. I think we can agree that there were AT LEAST 5 more drops in the 2nd qtr and and 3rd qtr.
Or for the sake of NOT arguing with you, let’s say there were only …. 7? Is that good enough for you?
16/24 with all those penalties and other crap is NOT a bad game by the QB.
I already said that Frye should have been the starter coming out of the bye week, so again, go play your Raider hater Russell bashing games with someone else!
If you move past the QB, you will see that this team has ZERO chance of winning with WRs dropping X amount of passes, and the Oline getting KILLER penalties.
It’s not that hard, unless you want it to be!
November 15th, 2009 at 5:42 pm
ENGLANDRAIDER Says:
November 15th, 2009 at 5:38 pm
To catch one of Russell’s passes you have to be eight feet tall and have arms as long the tall tales that Cable’s going to tell next week.
You also have to be somewhere other than where Russell thinks you will be.
lol,,
November 15th, 2009 at 5:43 pm
ENGLANDRAIDER Says:
November 15th, 2009 at 5:40 pm
Gradowoski, or preferably Frye, should be told they’re starting at the beginning of this week not long after Russell’s done throwing the ball no where in particular.
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Problem is…playing those two is a complete waste of time. They are not NFL caliber either. Both would be out of the league if not for the Raiders.
Russell on the other hand had skills that were valuable. If/when the Raiders release him, he will get another shot somewhere with real coaching and real talent.
Gradkowski and Frye will be coaching in college somewhere.
Don’t overrate middling talent. Al Davis does that all the time
November 15th, 2009 at 5:43 pm
Al called DHB and told him not to worry cause he runs really really fast !!!
November 15th, 2009 at 5:43 pm
u guys are fuking idiots how can u blame any of this on russell 10 drops 1 that could have been a td and a penalty that would have had us at the 3 yrd line even chris johnson said it wasnt russels fault if the wr caught the ball like they’ve been doing since highschool they could have won this game im gone
November 15th, 2009 at 5:44 pm
ENGLANDRAIDER Says:
November 15th, 2009 at 5:38 pm
To catch one of Russell’s passes you have to be eight feet tall and have arms as long the tall tales that Cable’s going to tell next week.
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Really?
LOL!
I see JRuss comedy hour is in full effect!
So the pass to DHB for 6 was a bad pass? The dump offs that DMAC, Russell, and Fargas dropped were bad passes?
How many drops do you credit to the WRs?
Russell is NOT supposed to be 100%, is he?
Neither is Grads, but the WRs just can not catch the ball!
November 15th, 2009 at 5:45 pm
its a shame that we “seem” to be hatin,,but we are not,,just laughing in the face of it ,,good hits on the field today,,,,
November 15th, 2009 at 5:45 pm
somewhere Jeff Garcia is laughing !!
November 15th, 2009 at 5:45 pm
DMC – regress
JR – regress
JLH – regress
Running game – regress
Passing game – never got off the schnide
hmmm… pattern here?
Defense – improved
oh, but wait …Cable has nothing to do with that.
November 15th, 2009 at 5:45 pm
Hang on, Ive always said and labored on the point of how Davis is to blame for everything and that nothing will get better till we get a real GM/HC tandem etc.
But until then, if ever, just saying that Russell is a lost cause and Gradkowski/Frye are far more competent QBs for the remainder of the year. Not long term answers, we all know.
November 15th, 2009 at 5:48 pm
GG,
How many drops do you think the WRs had today?
Atkinson is on talking about it RIGHT NOW!
All these guys are talking about post game is dropped passes by the WRs.
How can you turn around in the same breath (CABLE) and say the QB is the problem when the WRs CANT FUGGING CATCH?!?!?!
November 15th, 2009 at 5:49 pm
16 year old could do better than your man “jhill”,,an if bhp could get him in there then we’d see .
November 15th, 2009 at 5:49 pm
A lot of the dropped passes were inaccurate throws to outside the shoulder or down at the knees etc.
I would say 4/10 were clean drops from Russell throws, and 6/10 were Russell’s poor accuracy causing the drop.
Gradkowski had a drop, DHB’s at the end, a clean drop too.
Every facet of the Raiders is to blame, we know. Rookie WRs, OL, DTs, LBs, coaching, play-calling, GM/ownership. And that ultimately it’s all the GM/Owner’s fault.
Still, I think it unfair to hate on DHB given only 9 starts. If in two years he’s still the same or worse, then sure, go ahead, he’ll deserve it. But at least he’s trying and showing he cares.
November 15th, 2009 at 5:51 pm
Cable is going to bench JaMeatball. It might cost him his job but dont be surprised to see JaMarshmallow sit his fat a$$ on the bench nextweek.
DHB has no hands.
Cable has no brains.
JaMeatloaf has no skills.
November 15th, 2009 at 5:53 pm
All you brain deads that thought Chaz Schilens was going to fix JaBiscuitsandGravy go ahead and raise your hands so Jerry can send you matching sweaters.
Jhill, I know your XXL put your hand down.
November 15th, 2009 at 5:53 pm
S&B:
Who’s overrating Gradowski and Frye?
They’re medicore which by definition makes them better than Russell.
We need a quarterback.
November 15th, 2009 at 5:53 pm
1 SEASON ON THE bench ,a season to leaRN,,A COUPLE OF SEASONS TO ADJUST,,HIKE THE BALL ON 1 YOU DUMBASS,,NOT THAT HARD EH? oh and hit the wr ’s when you want to.
November 15th, 2009 at 5:54 pm
GG Says:
November 15th, 2009 at 5:49 pm
A lot of the dropped passes were inaccurate throws to outside the shoulder or down at the knees etc.
I would say 4/10 were clean drops from Russell throws, and 6/10 were Russell’s poor accuracy causing the drop.
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LOL, GG!
Ok, now we are talking about clean drops, vs not clean drops?
you count 6 “drops” that were not “really” clean, but still hit the WRs in the hands?
Ok, man! How much is DHB making? The ball needs to be perfect to him, huh? And Murphy, has to have it right on his hands to, huh?
Ok, I got it!
Russell has NO chance in Oakland with these type of fans. I’d say the same thing about the next young QB coming in here to. He better have an 80% completion %, and an Oline that is penalty free. Or Else, lol!
November 15th, 2009 at 5:55 pm
All jokes aside, this game was easy. EASY! The offense just was prepared …to catch.
But oh ..accd’g to our all wisdom HC – that’s the QBs fault. For f’n up 2 plays.
Again 2 plays! For that, he’s benched.
Just asinine. Have fun explaining that to Mr. Davis.
November 15th, 2009 at 5:55 pm
Also, Id rather see Russell throwing downfield every time to WRs, and seeing the ball hit them in the chest when they’re being dropped, and him going 0/20 with 20 drops like that. Cos at least that would absolve Russell of blame, and show he IS a good QB. BUt he seldom throws to WRs or downfield because he isnt competent enough or consistent enough to manage that competently.
It’s not vertical dump offense. All Russell does is dump to the RB in the short drop. He cannot work his WRs into the game with sufficient consistency.
Sure they drop say half of all dropped passes, and Russell’s fault for the other half of dropped passes. That says Russell in his third year is still not worthy to be a starter or earn a role.
Freeman today played like a god for a 2nd game starter in his rookie season. He makes mistakes, bad ones, etc, but he has ability to throw downfield, accurately, lead, convert 3rd downs, marshall his team on his back etc.
Russell isnt the answer.
November 15th, 2009 at 5:55 pm
“You have to go back to basics and the basics of football is fundamentals”
-George Atkinson
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Ok George thanks for the clarification! Oh, didnt we have OTA’s and training camp for that ?
November 15th, 2009 at 5:55 pm
mac Says:
November 15th, 2009 at 5:49 pm
16 year old could do better than your man “jhill”,,an if bhp could get him in there then we’d see .
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Mac,
What are you talking about?
What are you trying to say?
November 15th, 2009 at 5:55 pm
The team did worse in the penalty. They gave KC, what 3-4 first downs, and took away 3 of ours. 10 penalties.
No more bye weeks for the Raiders.
November 15th, 2009 at 5:56 pm
“UNprepared ….to catch”
November 15th, 2009 at 5:56 pm
# Oakglenn Says:
October 23rd, 2009 at 9:55 pm
Every game to me at least is a winnable game. SD, KC, Cinn, Wash, in Dallas, in Cleveland, Baltimore are all winnable games. The only really tough games to me right now, are in Pitt and in Denver. Now, things change during the course of the year, with teams playing well, injuries, guys emerging. But you want an answer: We run the table or at least win 8-9 of our last 10. How’s that for a prediction??
November 15th, 2009 at 5:56 pm
Another wasted effort by our skill players as our O-LINE played very well again. I know a lot of penalties, by Russell and Bruce had plenty of time to pass and we had over 150 yards rushing.
DHB attempts to catch passes like he is trying to catch a ball of laundry.
Nice call Cable to run that draw at the end of the game. Wasted our last time out and a 2nd and 1 play where we could have been aggressive.
November 15th, 2009 at 5:57 pm
# 16yearsold16yearfan Says:
November 15th, 2009 at 5:43 pm
u guys are fuking idiots how can u blame any of this on russell 10 drops 1 that could have been a td and a penalty that would have had us at the 3 yrd line even chris johnson said it wasnt russels fault if the wr caught the ball like they’ve been doing since highschool they could have won this game im gone
16
did butwholepreek 
come through with the tickets 
November 15th, 2009 at 5:57 pm
that useless git should be on my trophy cabinet above the fireplace,
November 15th, 2009 at 5:57 pm
Guys get your tickets for 2010 now before they SELL out…lmao
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# priesttj Says:
November 12th, 2009 at 12:03 am
Even their Wes Welker type got hurt “Nick Miller the DB killer”.
But “Black Moses” will soon appear at a stadium near you. Dress rehearsals are still under way. Previews this winter and show premiers next season with sold out dates in early Sept 2010 get your tickets NOW!!
November 15th, 2009 at 5:57 pm
No clean drops = well delivered ball that the WR has no excuse to drop.
Unclean drop = russell spraying the ball behind a guys shoulder when he’s sprinting and leaping for the ball to be delivered in front of him. You ever catch bullet passes in traffic like that? Not their fault for those.
Or them in a hitch route, face forwards to QB, and the ball comes flying in at the knees. You ever catch those?
Those are Russell’s fault not WRs.
November 15th, 2009 at 5:58 pm
ENGLANDRAIDER Says:
November 15th, 2009 at 5:53 pm
S&B:
Who’s overrating Gradowski and Frye?
They’re medicore which by definition makes them better than Russell.
We need a quarterback.
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Mediocre suggests average. Gradkowski and Frye are not NFL caliber talent. That’s what I am saying.
Better off playing Russell through the string and hope something happens.
Gradkowski and Frye will be out of the league next year…just like Walter, Tui, Brooks and others.
The team will not win until Al Davis cedes control anyway.
Talking about players and coaches as if that will make a difference is a waste of time
November 15th, 2009 at 5:58 pm
Man!!!! What a skill set!
Oakglenn Says:
November 3rd, 2009 at 9:24 pm
We talked about this from before he was drafted on this board. This kid has the most remarkable skill set for a QB in a decade.
November 15th, 2009 at 5:58 pm
Probably the worse thing about Russell is that he makes very little attempt to improve.
He’s still just coming in 9-5 except that he leaves by 4.
November 15th, 2009 at 5:58 pm
mista,,forget the poked 1,,we have ,,lol
November 15th, 2009 at 5:59 pm
JLH needs to be replaced on punts as well. First step is backwards every time, and he got scared and didn’t catch that one, costing us 15 yards.
November 15th, 2009 at 5:59 pm
Lechler had over 500 yds punting today. Probably a record. Nuff said
November 15th, 2009 at 5:59 pm
S&B:
Better off playing Russell through the string and hope something happens?
Something will. It’s called an interception.
November 15th, 2009 at 5:59 pm
According to DHB and his coaches despite not catching any balls and jumping up like a ninny and bobbling catchable balls to give away the game, he’s “grading out well”. We can all feel good about that.
November 15th, 2009 at 5:59 pm
vegas raider Says:
November 15th, 2009 at 5:56 pm
Another wasted effort by our skill players as our O-LINE played very well again. I know a lot of penalties, by Russell and Bruce had plenty of time to pass and we had over 150 yards rushing.
DHB attempts to catch passes like he is trying to catch a ball of laundry.
Nice call Cable to run that draw at the end of the game. Wasted our last time out and a 2nd and 1 play where we could have been aggressive
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Cable showed his baffoonery with that draw call.
November 15th, 2009 at 6:00 pm
Where is Oakglen/BS Detector?
Lets talk “trajectory”
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# Oakglenn Says:
October 23rd, 2009 at 8:30 pm
MR are you drinking?? If not, whatever you are on, cut the dose. As I posted earlier, Cable is 5-7 in his last 12 and 4-4 in his last 8. Coming from a team with a .250 over the last 5+ years, that is a good trajectory. He is doing a much better job than anyone since Gruden. Might be time to get behind what this guy is preaching.
November 15th, 2009 at 6:00 pm
yeah ENGLANDRAIDEr,,and even takes the weekend off,,lol
November 15th, 2009 at 6:00 pm
9-7 is still out there, lol
November 15th, 2009 at 6:00 pm
We are splitting hairs now, GG.
I’m not going to disect drops. IMO NFL WRs should catch balls that they get their hands on. Just like we see all these WRs for other teams “MAKING PLAYS” Catching a ball that is a perfect pass in not making a play.
November 15th, 2009 at 6:01 pm
This team should change thier name to the “Fraiders”. They play scared.
November 15th, 2009 at 6:01 pm
ENGLANDRAIDER Says:
November 15th, 2009 at 5:59 pm
S&B:
Better off playing Russell through the string and hope something happens?
Something will. It’s called an interception.
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I don’t hold any illusions about this team. They are not winning regardless of the QB.
So play Russell and see what happens. Gradkowski and Frye are not NFL cabilber. Russell still trying to show us something. As a 1st round pick, you have to defer….just being practical.
ultimately the RAiders go back to teh retread straategy
November 15th, 2009 at 6:01 pm
Cable is unbelievable. Completely out of his league. I couldn’t believe he actually showed up the QB (basically putting the blame on him by benching him) when it was obvious the drops and the penalties had nothing to do with Russell. That is what cost the game. Not 2 freakin’ plays you claim Russell mis-read before being benched.
Yet you throw it on him.
I got so sick of all the drops I almost stopped watching the game by half time. But I stayed watching only to see Cable pull that asinine move for Gradkowski.
I bet the whole team was looking like what the F’k? Cable looked like an idiot.
November 15th, 2009 at 6:02 pm
cmon vegas,,what odds are you getting?
November 15th, 2009 at 6:02 pm
Terrapin, what size sweater do you wear?
November 15th, 2009 at 6:02 pm
troll i didnt get em not a big suprise
November 15th, 2009 at 6:02 pm
Can’t beat the 1-7 Chiefs, at home. Sorry, sorry, sorry.
I remember when the Raiders and Steelers were a great rivalry.
November 15th, 2009 at 6:03 pm
I thought Jamarcus should have been benched and was yelling for it…….than we got the ball on the fumble at mid-field and was a little indecisive about it. I think the big fella should have got that one last chance with the benefit of great field-position.
Otherwise, Bruce plays harder and is not worse, and has the ability to do something when protection breaks down.
November 15th, 2009 at 6:04 pm
Terrapin,
DID YOU WATCH THE GAME?
November 15th, 2009 at 6:04 pm
All you have to do is listen to Townsend and Atkinson on the post game show.
All the are talking about is practice and the players not leaving until they got it right. You can’t just show up and expect to win, practice is not going as it should.
Now will someone PLEASE help me understand how us not practicing well is NOT on the coaching staff?
Just like I have been saying, this team is just not prepared on offense, defense, and especially STs. Have we made ONE play on STs this year?
November 15th, 2009 at 6:04 pm
Terrapin have you considered for 1 minute that Cable is sick & dam tired of Russell practicing like a 7th round pick, late for meeting, over weight, deflecting blame, etc etc
The kid is NOT a NFL Qb. Yes passes were dropped but he has been consistently VERY bad since week 1 so wipe the FKN sand out of your clit and get over it….he NEEDS to sit!
November 15th, 2009 at 6:04 pm
wrong snb,,this is ,,yeah i know but propably the best way to go.only drawback,,after so many years we have to listen to bhp about how it was made so good.LOL
November 15th, 2009 at 6:05 pm
# 16yearsold16yearfan Says:
November 15th, 2009 at 6:02 pm
troll i didnt get em not a big suprise
I
guess you 
weren’t holding your breath 
November 15th, 2009 at 6:05 pm
Road team has covered the last 13 spreads between Chiefs-Raiders, and road team has won outright 7 times in a row. Just plain crazy.
Both teams suck severely.
November 15th, 2009 at 6:05 pm
Jhill, you listen to Atkinson he is a buffoon.
November 15th, 2009 at 6:06 pm
11am. Wife shakes me awake. Friend of hers has Raider Tickets, want to know if we want them?
No. I go back to sleep.
November 15th, 2009 at 6:06 pm
It’s important to split hairs otherwise one doesnt appreciate when a player is at fault for something, or isnt, whether he’s regressing or progressing, etc.
Interesting that we cant split hairs over WRs drops, many of them legitimately bad QB throws that no WR in the NFL will catch, but did well to just get a hand on.
Yet, we CAN split hairs apparently when dissecting Russell’s game, weight, work ethic, quotes by teammates/coaches critical of him, all as a way to deflect blame towards the OL or Cable etc.
November 15th, 2009 at 6:07 pm
kk,go outside,,see the planet
November 15th, 2009 at 6:07 pm
KK, do us all a favor go back to sleep.
November 15th, 2009 at 6:08 pm
vegas raider Says:
November 15th, 2009 at 6:03 pm
I thought Jamarcus should have been benched and was yelling for it…….than we got the ball on the fumble at mid-field and was a little indecisive about it. I think the big fella should have got that one last chance with the benefit of great field-position.
Otherwise, Bruce plays harder and is not worse, and has the ability to do something when protection breaks down.
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The problem is Russell should have been benched a long time ago, not because of how he played the first 3 qtrs.
They just said again on the post game AT LEAST 9 dropped balls.
Cable doesn’t have a plan. If he wants to go with Gradkowski b/c of whatever reason, give Grads the starts all week!
He had ZERO reason to bench Russell today. And that is coming from a guy who BEGGED for Frye to start coming out of the bye week.
November 15th, 2009 at 6:09 pm
yeah,,nothing to lose here,,cept another game>
November 15th, 2009 at 6:10 pm
Mistabrown Says:
November 15th, 2009 at 6:05 pm
Jhill, you listen to Atkinson he is a buffoon.
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Don’t really listen to these post games, and it was really Townsend making the points.
Atkinson chimed in about how he tried to be better than the other guys in the league, but they were both talking about practice is where you get better, plain and simple.
November 15th, 2009 at 6:10 pm
I’ve seen QBs benched when the game is tanked and they’ve thrown many INTs. I’ve never seen QBs benched when the game is completely in reach and the QB is hittin the skill players on the numbers and hasn’t thrown an INT all game.
I mean a 3pts lead …are you freakin’ kiddin me? and you decide to bench the QB for a backup who couldn’t even win out in Tampa? What a joke.
This guy Cable needs to go. This team can barely run the ball right. You all may not have noticed that but check the stats. Ranked 26th in rushing. A damn shame!!!
Kiffin had us top 5. Rushing offense = regress.
November 15th, 2009 at 6:11 pm
The Raiders have 6 (SIX) winning seasons in 20 years.
Haven’t developed a QB of their own in 40 (FORTY) years.
And the Davis people are looking for someone to sacrifice.
November 15th, 2009 at 6:11 pm
Jhill the game passed Atkinson by 20 years ago he is talking about Cliff Branch like he’s a modern day athlete to get DHB’s back….its pitiful.
Get a clue!
November 15th, 2009 at 6:12 pm
I have to admit I was wrong about Cable. I tried to see some hope for him. Now I realize he doesn’t even know the kind of team he has. Cable, why didn’t you let Bush grind it all all the way to the end zone. He had it going. I hope that was your bird you sent to the owners box when you pulled JR (if indeed that was your call). I won’t put all the blame on you tho. I think you suffer enough having to be the mouth piece for this team. But please, tell Al you need a play caller.
November 15th, 2009 at 6:13 pm
Cmon GG,
I’ll split hairs if you want, but I thought I qualified it by saying in my mind, just like the Murphy “drop” of that deep ball by Grads, if the WR gets his hands on it, he should catch it.
That’s ALWAYS been the standard for NFL WRs!
The difference between the “play makers” and just regular WRs are guys who make those tough catches!
The caller talking right now is dead on Reverend something or another.
November 15th, 2009 at 6:13 pm
Jhill, practice during the season is minimal. They get a day off, break down film, practice, travel. Thats what pre-season and training camp is for, now is the time to fine tune things and cleanup little stuff its NOT the time to work on FKN fundamentals!
November 15th, 2009 at 6:14 pm
Having 2 weeks to prepare for KC at home and then lose pretty much makes you the worst team in the NFL I dont care who has what record!
LMAO priest is on KSFO!
November 15th, 2009 at 6:15 pm
lol!!! That pastor dude HAD to be priest!!!
November 15th, 2009 at 6:15 pm
Raider scalped by themselves, Chiefs and Refs
http://www.raidernationstation.com/2009_regular_season
November 15th, 2009 at 6:16 pm
Wildhog, LOL!
Cable is clearly reaching!
He is a copy cat, plain and simple. From his TOs to ice the kicker, to his fake FGs, to his benching the QB against the Jets, to the Wildhog on just one series, lol.
Why didn’t we see more of the wildhog?
November 15th, 2009 at 6:16 pm
Nope he is on now and he’s priest.
November 15th, 2009 at 6:16 pm
Dude Says:
November 15th, 2009 at 6:15 pm
lol!!! That pastor dude HAD to be priest!!!
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LOL
Priest is on now!
November 15th, 2009 at 6:17 pm
Antonio Fargas errrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr Justin Fargas is at Chicken & Waffles!
Hummer tried to cut off priest but he kept talking haha
November 15th, 2009 at 6:17 pm
My man Priest is HILARIOUS!
November 15th, 2009 at 6:17 pm
You watching the Colts-Pats game Jhill? Notice the quality of throws by the QBs, always on target. A franchise QB savior type drafted #1 overall etc with 3 years in the league now SHOULD be where these guys like Rivers, Roethlisberger etc were after 3 years.
Also its incorrect what Terrapin said about how Russell was playing well no intercepts. Dont read the stat sheets, watch the game. Chiefs dropped at least 3 INTs. And Russell was getting worse as the game wore on with inaccuracy.
November 15th, 2009 at 6:18 pm
Why didnt priest tell the fans to get their tickets for 2010 ?
lol
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# priesttj Says:
November 12th, 2009 at 12:03 am
Even their Wes Welker type got hurt “Nick Miller the DB killer”.
But “Black Moses” will soon appear at a stadium near you. Dress rehearsals are still under way. Previews this winter and show premiers next season with sold out dates in early Sept 2010 get your tickets NOW!!
November 15th, 2009 at 6:18 pm
hey mista,,jhill’ s still camp,,sorry in camp,,with this talk,jr vouldnt hit a tyre if it ws round his neck
November 15th, 2009 at 6:19 pm
Your man huh? Why dont your man tell the fans how Black Moses is going to lite up the NFL ?
lol
# jhill Says:
November 15th, 2009 at 6:17 pm
My man Priest is HILARIOUS!
November 15th, 2009 at 6:19 pm
Priest is a Radio Star!!
November 15th, 2009 at 6:20 pm
mac Says:
November 15th, 2009 at 6:18 pm
hey mista,,jhill’ s still camp,,sorry in camp,,with this talk,jr vouldnt hit a tyre if it ws round his neck
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Your posts are like trying to understand a Russell quote. Funny thing is I can actually translate his babble.
November 15th, 2009 at 6:21 pm
Caller says the Raiders are a pushovers and Atkinson says “hey thats not right”
lmao
November 15th, 2009 at 6:21 pm
Shall I beat myself about the head with a hammer or watch next weeks Raider game?
Which would be less painful?
You know I’m going with the game brother Raiders because we’r all part of the Nation and that’s all there is to it.
GO RAIDERS!!!!!!!!!
Goodnight…and may you get your hands on the same kind of stuff that Terrapin uses when he watches a game.
November 15th, 2009 at 6:21 pm
friggin drag queen more like,
November 15th, 2009 at 6:22 pm
Mista,
I’ll leave the Priest hate to you, lol!
I have no problem with the guy. So what he is an over the top fan?
He obviously bleeds silver and black, so he’s cool with me!
November 15th, 2009 at 6:22 pm
Why does priest need to call KSFO if he’s in the locker room schmoozing with AL and giving Cable a backrub ?
November 15th, 2009 at 6:23 pm
Jhill, the only reason I dont flame you like priest and oakglen is because you dont call people names like a 5 yr old….remember that because you are on the same level my friend!
November 15th, 2009 at 6:24 pm
e engaland,,lets laugh tomorrow at the stats/.
November 15th, 2009 at 6:24 pm
that was ,,gnite,,
November 15th, 2009 at 6:25 pm
I’ve been a Cable basher since last season. Never thought he should have got the job after going 4-8 with a bunch of blowouts in 2008.
But I can’t pin this one him. Receivers need to catch the ball. QBs have to throw it better. Cable has actually made some nice calls over the season too. Almost no coach would’ve gone for it on that 4th and a mile play in the season opener against SD when JaMarcus hit Murphy for the go-ahead TD. I’ve seen other calls like that where he showed guts and a brain rather than just trying to play it safe and save face. Yes, I still do think he should be gone after the season. At some point you’ve got to start winning or showing major improvement and 6-15 isn’t cutting it. Gruden, Fassel, Harbaugh and others would all be upgrades. However, I actually would take Cable over Gilbride.
Gotta start Gradkowski at this point. I had JaMarcus’ back for a long time. And what bothers me isn’t so much the inaccurate throws. I blame a lot of those on the receivers for not adjusting anyway. What bothers me more is the constant dump-offs and staring down receivers. JaMarcus just seems afraid to pull the trigger on anything downfield with any consistency.
We need another QB in there so we can better evaluate the rest of the offense for next season. End of story.
November 15th, 2009 at 6:25 pm
Cable is benching JaDumbell I just hope AL doesn’t fire him to prevent it.
November 15th, 2009 at 6:25 pm
GG,
No, I am not watching the game, waiting for the Lake show to start.
And are you really trying to compare Manning and Brady to a 2nd year starter?
LMFAO!
Russell is NOT a game changing QB.
My question is, can we get past that?
Figure out what he does well, and call those plays. NOT the ones that you as a coach want to go with.
Forget the QB!
My question is how in the heck did Bush only have 13 carries? He was CLEARLY the best thing going and we didn’t even milk that.
13 carries for Bush?
CMON!
November 15th, 2009 at 6:26 pm
Chris you were defending JaMeatball 6 weeks ago welcome to reality, come on in the water is warm.
November 15th, 2009 at 6:29 pm
Mistabrown Says:
November 15th, 2009 at 6:23 pm
Jhill, the only reason I dont flame you like priest and oakglen is because you dont call people names like a 5 yr old….remember that because you are on the same level my friend!
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Mista,
Let’s make one thing VERY clear. I could give a flying F about what you post to me, lol!
I honestly believe that your football knowledge needs a lot of work. Your “best material” always revolves around you saying negative stuff about Russell, Priest, and Oak.
Still waiting on one solid football post from you, lol.
So do what you want, man! It’s all good.
November 15th, 2009 at 6:30 pm
Congrats on the openning drive touchdown. Progress!
JLH is shell shocked.
November 15th, 2009 at 6:31 pm
damn, randy moss looks freaking good. i wish the raiders had a player like that. oh wait, they did.
November 15th, 2009 at 6:31 pm
Cable is awful Chris. JHill is right. He copycats. Thats becoming his legacy.
He had no reason for benching Russell. NONE!
He’s not cool under pressure.
The whole offense being unprepared is on HIM and his assistants. No way should this offense be this bad. Thats all I kept repeating as I was watching the game. No way are they this bad.
10 drop balls? Who knows how many costly penalties and you blame the QB? (Cable). You’ve gotta be jokin’.
Raiders ranked 26th is rushing and probably dead last in passing. I saw progress in the team when Kiffin had it(Top 5 rushing team with no WRs to boot). I see regression with Cable. He stinks. PERIOD!
November 15th, 2009 at 6:32 pm
Jhill, someone has to keep those clowns (and you) in check. I have close to 3 years of posts in here so go ahead and question my football knowledge.
November 15th, 2009 at 6:32 pm
Gotta start Gradkowski at this point. I had JaMarcus’ back for a long time. And what bothers me isn’t so much the inaccurate throws. I blame a lot of those on the receivers for not adjusting anyway. What bothers me more is the constant dump-offs and staring down receivers. JaMarcus just seems afraid to pull the trigger on anything downfield with any consistency.
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I said we should’ve benched #2 in week 2, and begged for Frye coming out of the bye week.
Cable, Hackett, and Russell are NOT working as a combination, for what ever reason.
Now Mista wants to keep seeing Russell start so he can keep up his failing comedy routine.
November 15th, 2009 at 6:33 pm
Why is your comprehension so poor, JHill? I said where Russell should be now in his THIRD season in the NFL is where Palmer, Roethlisberger, Eli and Rivers were in THEIR third seasons. They progressed, had high ceiling/talent like Russell supposedly had being drafted #1 overall.
You dont blow a #1 overall on a QB unless you think/expect them to become what all those QBs have become.
Russell SHOULD be by now a game-changing QB. You mention all that progress end of last season. You like to mention it. Ok, so thats the point of all that progression—that THIS year now he should be a Schaub, Rodgers, etc. Someone who can throw downfield, make plays, lead.
Russell is not the answer.
November 15th, 2009 at 6:34 pm
Mistabrown Says:
November 15th, 2009 at 6:32 pm
Jhill, someone has to keep those clowns (and you) in check. I have close to 3 years of posts in here so go ahead and question my football knowledge.
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See ..
WTF is 3 years of posts on Jerry’s blog have to do with your football knowledge.
I bet you 75% of your posts have something to do with a cut and paste of either Oak or Priest, and saying nothing above it.
And if you want to pump yourself up and REALLY think you are putting me in check, then LMFAO!
November 15th, 2009 at 6:37 pm
Everybody’s reaching on radio ….no body wants to call a spade a spade. The coach suxs ..he is over his head. Blame the players all you want. Blame the QB, but the coach suxs.
The season is over. Blaming a QB gives hope and maybe helps you sell a few more tickets by getting rid of him. But blaming the coach will get you nada = zero hope!
November 15th, 2009 at 6:38 pm
GG Says:
November 15th, 2009 at 6:33 pm
Why is your comprehension so poor, JHill?
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So we are going there with it?
You asked me if I was watching the game on now? I think Brady and and Manning are QB’ing that game, right?
IMO opinion, that game or NO or SD or ANY other QB in the league should not be compared to our QBs.
If you want to sit here and keep the bar at #1 pick, paid 40 million, then that’s on you.
I’m moving on!
If the guy is better throwing across the middle, call those type of plays. If he can’t throw it deep, then stop calling those plays. Or if you want to call those plays, put Frye or Grads in to START THE GAME!
You don’t bench a guy who is 9/24 with 10 drops and multiple penalties that killed first downs.
You DO bench a guy DURING THE BYE WEEK for not being prepared!
November 15th, 2009 at 6:39 pm
rivers didnt play until his third season he sat behind brees a great vet to learn from and he’s had good coaches and surrounding talent same with big ben eli and palmer
November 15th, 2009 at 6:40 pm
JLH is DONE!
Murphy should be in the slot instead.
I bet you ANYTHING Nick Miller is our new PR and KR guy next week.
November 15th, 2009 at 6:41 pm
When Cable took over the Raiders were a powerhouse running the ball. Now? They can barely run it. And Cable never sticks with it when one of our backs is running well (Bush).
Him trying this 1-2-3 punch is ridiculous. No team in the league does it. Starting 2 rooks is ridiculous. No team in the league does it. Faulting your QB for the WR/RB catching woes and the Olines penalties is also ridiculous.
From Top 5 to 26th rushing. You make the call.
November 15th, 2009 at 6:41 pm
Yes Jhill I want Russell to run his course so we can turn the page and draft a legit Qb. Grad & Frye are ok backups but they’re not going to take us anywhere.
Jhill, it takes ZERO football knowledge to come in here and serve koolaid and say EVERYTHING the Raiders do is good. IMO you dunno sh!t either.
November 15th, 2009 at 6:41 pm
Can’t wait to hear Jamarcus’ quotes after this one. He might come out with guns blazing.
Darren had just enough touches to drop something.
November 15th, 2009 at 6:42 pm
16yearsold16yearfan Says:
November 15th, 2009 at 6:39 pm
rivers didnt play until his third season he sat behind brees a great vet to learn from and he’s had good coaches and surrounding talent same with big ben eli and palmer
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Exactly 16!
The comparisons to these other QBs in hilarious!
At least we don’t have people coming on here talking about Ryan and Flacoo anymore.
You know, the other two 2nd year starters who are also struggling BIG TIME right now, lol!
November 15th, 2009 at 6:43 pm
we all know you can’t put the loses on just one player.sure our QB sucks,but our ROOKIE WRs don’t make plays consistently.as of now DHB and Murphy drop too many passes-they play like rookies normally do.that being said,and i may be wrong because i wasn’t able to watch the whole game,but why is it when Gradkowski comes into the game,DHB had 2 passes thrown his way in about 1 QTR. yet when JR was in there he had 1 pass thrown his way in 3 QTRS?the guy needs passes thrown his way to help develop his confidence.it seems pretty obvious he is getting open.BTW,i’m beginning to realize no matter what the team does,the officials will make sure we continue to lose.Raider fans should harp about the terrible treatment we get from the officials like they do about everything else-WE ARE GETTING SCREWED WEEKLY AND WE SHOULD COMPLAIN ABOUT THAT!!!
November 15th, 2009 at 6:43 pm
Terrapin Says:
November 15th, 2009 at 6:41 pm
When Cable took over the Raiders were a powerhouse running the ball. Now? They can barely run it. And Cable never sticks with it when one of our backs is running well (Bush).
Him trying this 1-2-3 punch is ridiculous. No team in the league does it. Starting 2 rooks is ridiculous. No team in the league does it. Faulting your QB for the WR/RB catching woes and the Olines penalties is also ridiculous.
From Top 5 to 26th rushing. You make the call.
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Tell em again Terrapin!
November 15th, 2009 at 6:44 pm
Cable insists on screen passes, and yet they never work. We have penalties, drops, sometimes even fumbles on them, however, never really first downs come from them. I saw at least 4 failed screens today.
November 15th, 2009 at 6:44 pm
Leave Cable the FK alone he is doing what he’s told.
U know this.
November 15th, 2009 at 6:45 pm
vegas raider Says:
November 15th, 2009 at 6:41 pm
Can’t wait to hear Jamarcus’ quotes after this one. He might come out with guns blazing.
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I was thinking the same thing, Vegas!
That is why I am getting more respect for Warren. AGAIN, it was him right there in Russell’s ear making sure he was cool. What a cool veteran this guy is, and I have no problem keeping him on as a backup.
Love his leadership!
I really hope Russell doesn’t let loose on Cable. It would be really entertaining, but we don’t need that right now!
November 15th, 2009 at 6:46 pm
Our offense is so bad, the O-line can have a ton of penalties, yet they did their job way better than our QB’s and WR’s.
November 15th, 2009 at 6:48 pm
FAILED SCREENS>>>> Mark that as another Cable phenomenon. I remember Kiffin’s squad (the same squad mostly btw) executing that to perfection. Cable ….again, you decide.
November 15th, 2009 at 6:50 pm
JHill,
“Money” Warren has his moments and would be a good backup, but he is not starter material. And again LB’ing today was terrible besides Howard’s couple plays he makes each week.
Jamarcus just instills hopelessness, amongst his teammates, coaches, fans and I am starting to thinking himself. Plays with very little confidence. Bruce kind of sucks, but he runs around with some zip at least.
November 15th, 2009 at 6:51 pm
The only reason I dont bash Cable is
1- He’s not too bright
2- He has wanted to bench JaMeatloaf but AL is standing in the way. Maybe this will come out when the season ends. Or when he gets canned.
November 15th, 2009 at 6:51 pm
I see now, JHill. You’re a rabid Russell-apologist.
To even say….”you dont compare QBs, just cos someone went #1 and $40m, doesnt mean he should be evaluated as a #1 pick player, if he’s playing like a 7th rounder then we have to appreciate that’s where he is and not call him a bust etc”
See how illogical and contradictory that is? “He’s not a #1 pick, so dont call him a bust” !!
Anyway, I’ll lay off this for now cos I gotta do stuff. Gnite all.
November 15th, 2009 at 6:52 pm
Jhill, it takes ZERO football knowledge to come in here and serve koolaid and say EVERYTHING the Raiders do is good. IMO you dunno sh!t either.
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Just like I thought, Mista.
Nothing to say.
I’ve bashed Cable, the Oline, WRs, Russell, Grad, the LBs the nickle corner, and others.
You? Russell, Russell, and more Russell.
So keep up your lies, and get back to your name calling with Russell, Priest, and Oak.
Since you don’t think I know shyt and I won’t play your name calling game, why don’t we just skip past each other?
Cool?
November 15th, 2009 at 6:53 pm
The more you see Gradkowski play the more you will hate him too. Trust me, he was a back up around the league for a reason. Don’t let these people sell you that hope.
This boils down to coaching imho. Cable is NOT putting his players in the best position to win. The playcalling sucks also – one in the same.
November 15th, 2009 at 6:54 pm
GG Says:
November 15th, 2009 at 6:51 pm
I see now, JHill. You’re a rabid Russell-apologist.
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Yeah, Gnite, GG!
A Russell apologist who wants Frye to start, and called for Russell to be benched in week 2.
Yeah, I think it’s time for me to watch the Lakers instead. Maybe we can talk later this evening, like we did last night.
November 15th, 2009 at 6:55 pm
This was one of the worst football games I have had the misfortune of watching. If you combined the squads you might get a .500 ball club.
November 15th, 2009 at 6:55 pm
Jhill is fooling nobody in this blog, you’re a fraud!
November 15th, 2009 at 6:55 pm
Terrapin,
DID YOU WATCH THE GAME???
November 15th, 2009 at 6:56 pm
Dude – Do you have a stuttering problem? Stop repeating the same damn question. If you read what I wrote you wouldn’t have to ask it.
November 15th, 2009 at 6:56 pm
Lets not pretend that if Jamarcus Russell WAS playing well that this team would be winning. He is A reason but not THE reason.
November 15th, 2009 at 6:57 pm
Yes or no?
November 15th, 2009 at 6:58 pm
This is what I don’t get: EVERYBODY is talking about the drops. But almost EVERYBODY is blaming the QB for it.
Puzzling logic.
November 15th, 2009 at 6:58 pm
Mistabrown Says:
November 15th, 2009 at 6:55 pm
Jhill is fooling nobody in this blog, you’re a fraud!
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Just like I thought, AGAIN!
Just when you run out of football material, here comes the name calling.
Now I’m trying to fool people, and am a fraud?
LMFAO!
I can’t wait to hear you explain that.
What exactly am I trying to fool people about? LMFAO, dude!
Why are you even talking to me? Why do you waster you time with such a fraud?
Oh, so you can put me in check?
November 15th, 2009 at 7:00 pm
Terrapin Says:
November 15th, 2009 at 6:58 pm
This is what I don’t get: EVERYBODY is talking about the drops. But almost EVERYBODY is blaming the QB for it.
Puzzling logic.
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No it’s not. It’s simple logic.
JaMarcus jokes are a lot funnier to some people than Murphy and DHB jokes.
I guess.
November 15th, 2009 at 7:00 pm
Playcalling was good enough to win today, Terrapin. Not good, but our skill positions players are downright laughable. I mean Jamarcus and Gradowski, both out of the league in a few years. Darren is just as awful, and DHB, JLH??? Pathetic showing today.
D-line dominated, and O-line dominated at times getting a push, and yet we don’t win. Amazing.
November 15th, 2009 at 7:00 pm
And the funniest part is Mista describing others who call names as 5 year olds, and then get right into it.
LMFAO!
November 15th, 2009 at 7:02 pm
Terp,
Yes or no???
November 15th, 2009 at 7:02 pm
Terrapin Says:
November 15th, 2009 at 6:53 pm
The more you see Gradkowski play the more you will hate him too.
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I saw nothing from Grad today to back up this statement. He put the ball where his WRs could make a play and DHB coughed it up. Of course, DHB dropped a sure TD throw from Russell as well.
However, the team seemed to play with some urgency with Gradkowski in the game. The tempo seemed faster and there was more emotion.
I thought they should have left him in as starter the first time they benched Russell and I wish they would leave him in now.
I know Gradkowski is not the QB of the future but neither is Russell. I think the WRs can begin to make plays and gain confidence behind Grad. Russell will do nothing but take these guys down with him.
November 15th, 2009 at 7:05 pm
vegas raider Says:
November 15th, 2009 at 7:00 pm
Playcalling was good enough to win today, Terrapin. Not good, but our skill positions players are downright laughable. I mean Jamarcus and Gradowski, both out of the league in a few years. Darren is just as awful, and DHB, JLH??? Pathetic showing today.
D-line dominated, and O-line dominated at times getting a push, and yet we don’t win. Amazing.
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Yes and No, Vegas.
I actually posted earlier that I thought Cable had a helluva game plan going in the first qtr. Run, run run, short passes, and screens. Was working like a charm to the tune of 10 1st qtr points.
The here comes the wildcat and a bunch of penalties and deep drops.
Cable lost me when he made the QB change. Never saw that coming with all the penalties and drops, and Jano’s missed FG.
It was only a 3 pt game, and like you, would’ve like to see the same lineup in after that turnover at midfield. Heck, Grads wasn’t even warmed up to come in.
3 and out, and a fuggin INT b/c Grads wasn’t ready.
If Cable was on the verge of benching the QB, it should’ve happened during the bye week!
November 15th, 2009 at 7:05 pm
I think Tom Cable outcoached Todd Haley today. I mean seriously, what the hell was Haley doing out there? Going for some 4th downs and not others, wasting timeouts on stupid challenges, having no control of his sideline. That guy sucks, and I look forward to playing him twice next year before he gets fired.
Fassel and Losman in 2010!!!! I still have the Las Vegas Loco’s, going to the UFL championship game, lol
November 15th, 2009 at 7:05 pm
So Terrapin you obviously didnt even watch the game yet your on here commenting on it??? Hows that work? LOL!
November 15th, 2009 at 7:06 pm
it is easy to blame the coach when the WRS drop passes,the QB misses more open WRS than he hits,the Oline gets bogus penalties that cause successful plays to be cancelled,etc.the fact is if the QB hits open WRs,the WRs catch those passes,the officials call the games fairly,etc.,the coach looks like any other successful coach.and to those that say we should just run the ball,isn’t that what the Jets try and do,and their record is under .500.this is the NFL and to be successful in the NFL,you HAVE to have a passing game.
November 15th, 2009 at 7:06 pm
Vegas – I’m talking about the totality of the season. Cable’s playcalling stinks. He never sticks with the run. He’s always coming up with this excuse – “I’m just trying to be aggressive” bullcrap when thing fail. If your team isn’t ready for something don’t force it you dimwit.
He’s been forcing the issue all season. 2 rooks starting at WR …trying to chug it downfield damn near every pass play ..long ass routes. When he shortened it up some …things were clickin’ …but he never sticks with what works for his team. He just thinks of what “he” wants to do with no regard to if the team can execute it well. He just doesn’t have a clue.
November 15th, 2009 at 7:07 pm
I thought they should have left him in as starter the first time they benched Russell and I wish they would leave him in now.
I know Gradkowski is not the QB of the future but neither is Russell. I think the WRs can begin to make plays and gain confidence behind Grad. Russell will do nothing but take these guys down with him.
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Agreed!
Look at what a benching did for VY. Let Grads or Frye finish the season and make Russell earn the job back next year, if he can.
Gradkowski was with Hackett in Tampa so maybe he is a better fit for this timing offense they are trying to run.
November 15th, 2009 at 7:09 pm
I have to agree with that Lefty.
How much different would things look if the WRs caught the ball, the QB was more accurate, and we didn’t have stupid penalties?
November 15th, 2009 at 7:10 pm
Vegas,
There is ZERO excuse for Bush not carrying the ball 25 times today.
Dude was CLEARLY on a roll.
Cable should have to answer for that!
November 15th, 2009 at 7:11 pm
Listen, as a coach you should at least make sure your team can execute the little things and do them well. Screens, for instance is a simple matter and can be huge for an offense (see Chargers …run it all the damn time to the point that its sickening).
To see these player continuously “f” up on the screens is telling.
November 15th, 2009 at 7:11 pm
2 weeks to rest and prepared. They looked tired and un-prepared after the 1st set.
We don’t know whats going on inside, but these guys are defenantly not yesterdays professional. I wonder if the pressure, demands, and the expectations are a little more that they can handle. They are afraid to fail. That has hurt them. Any player has to have a short memory, but somethings lingering here. Can’t quite put my finger on it.
Lack of preperation is starting to show how deep it is. Combine that with failure, now your playing with out confidence.
Give DHB a little more time. Russell, its been a long try-out, time to crap or get off the pot. Cable is my biggest disappointment. I really thought he would improve. Players will win for a coach because they want to please him, because they respect him. Cable is in a tough spot. Al being the wise man he is could have arranged for a play caller so Cable could focus on managing the game. Al the wise should have seen his lack of experience. The defense really gave up one bad pitch today, so a little improvement there (this was KC after all).
November 15th, 2009 at 7:13 pm
messagetoal.com
c’mon nation visit this site like i just did!!! Have your voices heard
November 15th, 2009 at 7:15 pm
grads sucks big time but alot of u dummies thinks Hes better. didnt he throw behind guys as well? yall want russell to be perfect with every throw and no qb is that accurate. wrs make plays for their qb except ours. i hope russell does come out on cable cuz that guy is a bafoon. jhill and terp mentioned why so ill leave it at that. we have snuck into top 5 pick status with this loss. 10 drops and alot of u dummies blame russ. good drops vs bad drops, MUHFUKKAS PLEASE!!!!!!!
November 15th, 2009 at 7:16 pm
But thats like a what came first ..the chicken or the egg ..kinda question.
You can blame the players or the coach. My eyes are squarely on the coaching first now and the players afterwards.
As I was WATCHING the game I kept saying over and over “There’s no way this team is this bad ..No way” referring to the offense, shaking my head. This offense has a LOT of talent – A LOT! More than most teams in the league. It has to be the coaching and having them prepared.
Pulling JR when none of that sht had anything to do with him was all I needed to see. Never saw that coming, and it was a btch move by Cable.
November 15th, 2009 at 7:25 pm
armond Says:
November 15th, 2009 at 7:15 pm
grads sucks big time but alot of u dummies thinks Hes better.
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Let the players decide who is better. Don’t listen to what they say, but WATCH how they react.
Grad came in a immediately the tempo increased and the WRs made a few plays.
I think the players are done with Russell as well. Sure, some underachieving overpaid homeboys whispered in his ear on the sidelines, but most of the offense picked it up when Grad came in because I believe they feel he gives them a chance.
November 15th, 2009 at 7:26 pm
Only Haley is worst than Cable. (oh, and Rob Ryan but he’s no HC).
But that’s the thing. NOBODY in the media points out how bad the HCs are. They always blame the players first. Haley is TERRIBLE but no one in the media says a word.
Cable stinks. Always thought so, but held out hope. All “hope” is gone now. Its official. Dudes a turd. Flush that sht Al.
I feel sorry for the players on O. Another year of a new system. Can’t get off 1st base.
November 15th, 2009 at 7:26 pm
i told yall wut we f u k k i n need . marc trestman . and tony pike . and the backup qb in san diego , and hotter cheerleaders .
November 15th, 2009 at 7:27 pm
i doubt cable benched russell because of the 2 bad reads.
he was probably M.I.A for the whole bye week and not working at trying to get better.
We don’t see behind the scenes.
I watched the game on direc t.v. and i believe if gradkowski started today the raiders would have won. i’m not saying he’s the answer but he gives us a better chance to win.
November 15th, 2009 at 7:29 pm
Gradkowski didn’t do squat. Stop seeing dreams man.
3 & out.
Then comes back and throws an INT.
Then comes back and fortunately for him the WRs caught some WIDE OPEN passes. Not so fortunate that they continued to drop some big ones too, just like when JR was in.
November 15th, 2009 at 7:31 pm
Fargas was just on the radio saying “JaMarcus is OUR QB” …read between the lines gents …that means JR not Gradkowski …he didn’t even get too political with it …the players are speaking.
Someone said before CJ said they would’ve won if the WRs would do their jobs …another player spoken
November 15th, 2009 at 7:36 pm
Grad came in a immediately the tempo increased and the WRs made a few plays.
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Really?
LMFAO!
His first series was a 3 and out.
His 2nd series was a pick.
His 3rd ended with him getting sacked for a huge loss.
See, this is the type of stuff that is just too funny to me!
November 15th, 2009 at 7:36 pm
terp these people see what they want. i was at the game and my group counted the drops as they happened. russell was very accurate early and was off a little as they continued to DROP more passes. u could clearly see him aiming the ball. notice how his first pass to chaz was in rhythmn? he trusts chaz and 81 caught it with ease. why does murphy get a pass in here? as much hate dhb gets murphy is worse. even those dumpoffs were dropped but they blame jr. we have some of the biggest idiots of all fanbases. they hate the guy so much they will settle for grad who did the same as him but threw a pick.
November 15th, 2009 at 7:37 pm
Terrapin Says:
November 15th, 2009 at 7:29 pm
Gradkowski didn’t do squat. Stop seeing dreams man.
3 & out.
Then comes back and throws an INT.
Then comes back and fortunately for him the WRs caught some WIDE OPEN passes. Not so fortunate that they continued to drop some big ones too, just like when JR was in.
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fortunately for him he threw it where they could catch it instead of behind them or in the dirt.
stop defending Jamarcuss it is to hard of a sell he sucks REALLY BAD.
we can all thank big AL for JaDarrenBey
November 15th, 2009 at 7:38 pm
good drops vs bad drops, MUHFUKKAS PLEASE!!!!!!!
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LMFAO!
Wassup Armond!
It’s really come down to good drops vs bad drops.
I mean, I am really LOL when I type that!
I’m still waiting on the definition of a playmaking WR.
November 15th, 2009 at 7:38 pm
# Terrapin Says:
November 15th, 2009 at 7:29 pm
Gradkowski didn’t do squat. Stop seeing dreams man.
3 & out.
Then comes back and throws an INT.
Then comes back and fortunately for him the WRs caught some WIDE OPEN passes. Not so fortunate that they continued to drop some big ones too, just like when JR was in.
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Dude. Terrapin, I know you know a little football.
How much time has Grad had out there compared to Russell?
Again, don’t listen to WHAT they say, WATCH how they play.
November 15th, 2009 at 7:39 pm
It was actaully funny Terrapin.
Fargas said, “I’m not going to go all TO and cry, but Jamarcus is our QB …”
That dude is hilarious!
November 15th, 2009 at 7:41 pm
oh…
Please fire Tom Cable. The Wild Sht formation killed the momentum early in this game and was worthless.
November 15th, 2009 at 7:41 pm
they dont even mention how grad shouldve thrown 3 ints with 2 pik 6’s against the jets. lets not forget that tipped pass dropped for a int and the tip that couldnt even get past the los. yeah grads is cool man.dmc got no shot to come out bangin. bush shouldve had 25 carries. i mentioned this the last few days about the relationship between cable hackett russ. i never seen russ and cable bond before. i dont think jr cares for him much and down the bay said he know sthat hackett doesnt like russ. no one questions why he has regressed under these coaches.
November 15th, 2009 at 7:42 pm
I DON’T KNOW WHO SUCKS WORSE CABLE OR JAMARCUSS
November 15th, 2009 at 7:44 pm
jamarcuss threw on pass right to the corner on the way down for the field goal hit him in the hands !!! Yes he hit him in the hands.
November 15th, 2009 at 7:46 pm
Here’s my two cents:
I didn’t see the game, only heard it on radio, but this is what I got from the wonderful commentating done by good ol’ Mr. Pappa.
Drops, Drops, Drops. DHB is not ready, he needs to spent every second he’s not playing, studying, or watching film on practicing catching the ball. Whether it’s nerves, or lack of ability, he’s just not ready. Al needs to realize this now, sit him, and stop this before he really does become a huge bust. Murphy is not ready either, but at least he catches the ball. His first game back and Chaz is already the better receiver. Rotate Higgins and Murphy with DHB being the 4th WR. Design special plays suited just for him, and let him gain some confidence.
Russell is a tough call. Not because I think he can be the next Brady, but because his WRs haven’t been making it easy to get a true assessment of him. If the WRs would get open more often, or catch some of those drops, Russell all of a sudden looks a little better, statistically at least. But it is true that he has been a disappointment up until now in more ways than one. Unfortunately, we don’t have much of a better option. Gradkowski shows a lot of heart and desire to win, but in my opinion hasn’t shown he can do enough given the chances he has had. It would be worth it giving Frye a chance. This is another possible monumental first round bust. However, I think it would also be worth it to give Russell another year, only if he has consistency at coaching. If there’s another coaching change might as well change the QB. But if he is given another year, then it has to be the last chance. Either takes us to the playoffs, or he’s gone.
I don’t know what to think of McFadden. But if the bust whispers have already started, I wouldn’t be surprised.
Wow. Three consecutive first round busts. And there are others. If that doesn’t set your team back, I don’t know what will…oh wait, an old stubborn, senile owner who is living in the past would do it as well. Oh, we have both…
November 15th, 2009 at 7:48 pm
yo jhill they cant define playmaking wr cuz they havent seen one yet. chaz can be that but hes been hurt and caveman cable rotated him out 2 much. i taped the post game show so i will see how cable sold jr out later 2night. tell me how the starting qb gets benched but these sukka azz rookie wrs didnt. 10 drops and its all the qb. if he plays grad the rest of the year u can say goodbye to me. ill watch but wont care about the outcome. jr shouldve been benched another way but not this way. cable is a coward but then again didnt ronald curry have beef with him last year over some ish like this?
November 15th, 2009 at 7:48 pm
I didnt get the “Wildhog” either. I’m just laughing at the name right now …Cables just ridiculous.
He ran that sht 2 times in a row and didn’t get squat! Killed the momentum. I’m just not a fan …the Dolphins are the best at it in the NFL …but you don’t see them winning many games with it do you? Despite all the fanfare.
November 15th, 2009 at 7:51 pm
“I guess we got a winning streak here,” receiver Dwayne Bowe said. “Every time we play a division team our goal is to win. But every time we play the Raiders, it’s always a hated rivalry and coach stressed it all during the week: Hate the Raiders, we’ve got to beat the Raiders.”
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phuk them !!!!!!
November 15th, 2009 at 7:54 pm
Russell, the big-black Quarterback, with the fur coats is the easy target, for the Davis apologists.
November 15th, 2009 at 7:54 pm
Cable is like a deer in headlights out there. He’s got to go. Sanjay Lal is horrible and needs to go as well.
Jamarcus should not have been benched for his play today. He should have been benched for his play over the last 9 weeks of the football season.
He WAS NOT BETTER than Gradkowski today. It’s debatable whether or not he was worse than Gradkowski due to the numerous dropped passes.
It was sad to see his receivers fall apart and not have his back today on the football field. However Jamarcus has way more problems than just his receivers not catching the ball.
He had good protection at times, esp on some play action drop backs, and he still could not find anyone open. Cable said that there were receivers open, and there might have been, but because Jamarcus only looks to one side of the field he probably didn’t know that.
November 15th, 2009 at 7:56 pm
dmc can make plays but u have 2 stick with him. how can u use 3 rbs all at once and be effective?they dont understand their own personnel. dmc bush fargas are workhorse backs that need touches to be effective. we have no real change of pace back on our team which is another reason our run game can go cold 2 soon. dmc isnt a change of pace R.bush guy yall make him out to be. he averaged over 20 CARRIES a game for 2 years at arkansas. we do nothing with him and blame him for not playing better. how the hell do we committ 2 2 weakazz rookie wrs but not dmc bush? JUST STOOOPID!!!
November 15th, 2009 at 7:57 pm
Man oh man…I just remembered …JR did all he can to get out of this blitz by the Cheifs ..lines collapsing …he somehow manages to pass it to DMC who’s set up for the screen and I don’t know how he got it out …what happened ….DMC drops it! Picks it up and runs way down field.
I know you guys remember that too. What could’ve been …but I guess that was the QBs fault too.
November 15th, 2009 at 7:57 pm
For some of you who think Harbaugh is comeing here.
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2009/11/15/sports/s144401S71.DTL
November 15th, 2009 at 7:58 pm
My God how low I’ve sunk.
I have Phillip Rivers and Randy Moss on my FF team and I actually have to get excited for them because that is the only way I can get a win in the NFL as a fan.
November 15th, 2009 at 8:01 pm
This 3rb rotation is stupid. Stick with one or the other. Run 2 at most. But dont run 3. Dumb! But he keeps doing it and expects different results each time.
Keeps shoveling rookie WRs out there with a 2nd yr QB and expecting different results.
….go figure.
November 15th, 2009 at 8:01 pm
Your dead on Armond about the coach/QB relationship.
Another reason why I think they should start Grads or Fire Cable and insert Tollner.
It’s political now in that Russell, Cable and Hackett just are not going to get along. Russell was CLEARLY pissed after this benching. Him being the scapegoat is not going to sit well with him, and I can’t see him buying Cable’s reasoning.
Might as well go with the backup at this point.
November 15th, 2009 at 8:04 pm
Good post Kush!
November 15th, 2009 at 8:06 pm
kush he did play better than grads but his damn wrs dropped 2 many passes for it to look like it. people dont realize how drops affect u mentally. i saw aaron rodgers at cal go in the tank once his best wrs like macarthur, chase lyman, burl toler got hurt. he had freshman #11 playin too early and other guys droppin passes left and right running bad routes. he started holding on to the ball 2 long and was trying to be too perfect. a once explosive passing game became very ugly and then the azz whippin in the holiday bowl happened.
November 15th, 2009 at 8:06 pm
Yeah. JHill. I wouldn’t go for that crap either. There is something called pride. And you’re not going to pin the loss on him without some friction.
The season is over. Russell is done with Cable. Probably doesn’t want anything to do with him further. The other players are likely scratching their heads too. There will be no love in that locker room.
Might as well go with the backups and stop running the youth the Raiders are depending on.
New coach will be in town February. You can bet on it. Even Al can see this.
November 15th, 2009 at 8:07 pm
do you think hackett likes grad more because hes coached him longer i dont want to think that hes been sabotaging russell but it would make some sense as to why hes regressing hackett might just want grad as the starter
November 15th, 2009 at 8:09 pm
stop “ruining” the youth the Raiders are depending on
November 15th, 2009 at 8:11 pm
16 u remember last night how downthebay was sayin how he knows of the friction between russ and hackett? it looks like he may be right. i didnt see russ when he was benched. i heard every1 screamin and then i see grads come in. ill have to watch the replay online 2 see what every1 is talking about. cable sold out curry last year 2.
November 15th, 2009 at 8:11 pm
Al would see right thru that.
November 15th, 2009 at 8:15 pm
the fact that cable said they wouldnt be interested in chambers said enuff. why do we give russ wr that cant catch? chaz is the only 1. jlh is the biggest puzzy ive seen since desmond howard. if we were going to reach for a wr it shouldve been harvin maclin or even nicks. i hope heybey comes thru but he wasnt my choice.why is slow azz holland returning kicks and not jlh? he would have no choice but 2 run forward on kickoffs and was good at it last year.i dont believe cable instills any confidence in them.
November 15th, 2009 at 8:24 pm
So those horrible screen passes that are about to get a rb killed are considered drops, wow so new coach and new coordinator next year and new excuses for Russell great.
November 16th, 2009 at 7:45 am
SPEECH LESS….
November 16th, 2009 at 7:47 am
like Tim Brown said alot of talent but no leadership…i agree
November 16th, 2009 at 7:47 am
GRUDEN WE NEED YOU!!!!!!!!!
November 16th, 2009 at 7:57 am
we can cry and whine all day but what it comes down to OUR TEAM SUCKS!!! amen
November 16th, 2009 at 4:20 pm
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