Gradkowski awaits word
By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Monday, November 16th, 2009 at 1:04 pm in Oakland Raiders.
Quarterback Bruce Gradkowski, who had the Raiders in position for a potential victory following a two-minute drill only to have a pass deflect off the hands of Darrius Heyward-Bey to Mike Brown for an interception, said Monday he doesn’t know what his status will be for this week’s game against the Cincinnati Bengals.
“I haven’t heard anything, not really worried about it, just approaching like I do every week, so we’ll see,” Gradkowski said.
Coach Tom Cable said following the 16-10 defeat he wasn’t sure if JaMarcus Russell or Gradkowski would be the starter.
Gradkowski said he received encouragement from Russell after replacing him in the minutes of the third quarter.
“He’ll give me his opinion, he’ll tell me what’s up, what looks good, just I do for him,” Gradkowski said. “We’re there for each other, like I said, this is a team sport, and we need to just find a way to win, whatever that may be.”
Gradkowski said he didn’t know when Cable was going to decide.
“I’m not sure what Coach Cable’s going to do or what the coach is going to do and that’s their decision,” Gradkowski said. “Either way I’m going to prepare as hard as I can. We will find out before Wednesday but until then I’m just going to do the same things I normally do and hey whatever that may be I’m just going to approach it the right way.”
More to come following Cable’s weekly press conference at 2 p.m. (PST) . . .
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November 16th, 2009 at 1:06 pm
Gradkowski looks like Joe Satriani get the guy some shades and a guitar.
November 16th, 2009 at 1:06 pm
Cable will announce his QB decision as soon as Davis makes it.
November 16th, 2009 at 1:06 pm
Silver-n-Smac Says:
Shouldn’t we at least have a LEGIT replacement, one that’ll really stick?
Or do you need some instant gratification?
If that’s the case. . . .yeah, fire his ass!
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Instant gratification? No, we are just looking for some consistent progress, which Cable is not and will not provide.
But even a little instant gratification wouldn’t hurt at this point….but you seem to be happy with prolonged agony if you want Cable back in 2010.
November 16th, 2009 at 1:06 pm
KK, maybe Tom just needs to redefine the mission?
lmao
November 16th, 2009 at 1:11 pm
So we should have put our tail between our legs after 911 and not done sht? What kinda moronic POS are you ?
# morilla Says:
November 16th, 2009 at 1:08 pm
Mistabrown — keep your politics for another board, ok?
Anyone with a sense of history knows that we will never win that war. It’s been raging for thousands of years and it is never going to end. “War on Terror”? F-k you Bush… You threw gasoline on a raging fire that is going to haunt us forever. We wont win, ever. End Rant…..
November 16th, 2009 at 1:11 pm
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visit the site Nation!!
November 16th, 2009 at 1:12 pm
Why hasn’t at least, Sanjay Lal, been fired yet?
November 16th, 2009 at 1:12 pm
But Cable is doing what Al tells him thats why Cables comments are so bizarre every Monday! He was done with JaMeatball months ago I can tell you that!
# neilb Says:
November 16th, 2009 at 1:09 pm
That’s my point Mistabrown.Art didn’t have the talent for his second time at HC that Cable has now.Cable has/had the last 3 #1 draft picks on offense and done nothing with them.
November 16th, 2009 at 1:13 pm
RaiderMight did you just start watching football last week?
Assistants dont get fired mid season unless the whole staff gets the axe. Wait 7 more weeks, ok ?
November 16th, 2009 at 1:15 pm
“He’ll give me his opinion, he’ll tell me what’s up, what looks good, just I do for him,” Gradkowski said. “We’re there for each other, like I said, this is a team sport, and we need to just find a way to win, whatever that may be.”
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Earlier this year I watched a program on NFL QBs and Head Coaches and they showed footage of Gruden in camp yelling at a QB over and over and over again…basically called the guy a moron and finally pulled him off the practice field…that QB was Garbagekowski…and that is the guy we have chosen to mentor Russell. lol
Having Russell and Garbagekowski giving each other advice about football is like have two bed pan cleaners giving each other advice on neurosurgery.
November 16th, 2009 at 1:15 pm
Raider O Says:
November 13th, 2009 at 8:05 pm
Dell,
I need your advise again sir. if I want to work abroad ( mid east) later, which is more beneficial to me: a CFP/CPA combo, or a CFA? US too?
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Raider O
Hope all is well.
I currently am a CPA/CFP. Most of the CFA’S I know have left college and worked for a few years and decided to study for the designation as a CFA. The tests are difficult. The direction and interest in a particular area will determine if you should become a CFA. Also the possibilty a employer, could help subsidize the cost to achieve the CFA, should be considered.
I have currently hired two CFA’S and asked for their opinion. Their opinion is, if you are moving towards the mideast, the designation as a CPA/CFP is a stronger designation nationally across the globe.
Whatever you decide, work hard and all your hard work will come together to having a successful career.
November 16th, 2009 at 1:15 pm
What would I do Mistabrown?
I’d be out of a job.
November 16th, 2009 at 1:17 pm
……and I agree with you.Cable is Al’s puppet.
November 16th, 2009 at 1:17 pm
Was it just me or did this G man Quarter back look alot like the last G man QB we had
November 16th, 2009 at 1:17 pm
I don’t f…ing care who plays QB, I want to see us win a game
November 16th, 2009 at 1:17 pm
Neil easy for you and I to say sitting here making 10% or 20% of Cables salary. He is saying what he needs to say to keep his job.
The end.
November 16th, 2009 at 1:18 pm
Dakota
I’m still waiting for a picture of my first hire. I need a hot assistant to get me through the long days as a coach.
November 16th, 2009 at 1:18 pm
Al Davis fans are constantly looking for someone else to blame.
November 16th, 2009 at 1:19 pm
KK, does Tom just need to “redefine” the mission?
November 16th, 2009 at 1:20 pm
So, we picked a #1, #4 & #7 – all on offense – and they all stink, and it has nothing to do with the organization?
Al must leave.
Cable should have been fired yesterday.
Sanjay Lal….. no words for this guy.
This season is a joke.
When Cable was hired he said “the Raiders are back, no more of the losing of the past”. Yeah, right.
Everything that could go wrong – has gone wrong.
Anybody want to buy some season tickets? Section 104, Row 3 – The Black Hole – any takers?
I’ll give you a discount.
November 16th, 2009 at 1:21 pm
Gradkowski has a 58,6 career QB rating and hasn’t thrown a TD in the last 3 years
nice
November 16th, 2009 at 1:22 pm
KK, i’ll just keep asking you the same question for 2 weeks like you did priest, ok ?
Does Tom just need to “redefine” the mission?
November 16th, 2009 at 1:23 pm
If you insist on starting 2 rookie WR’s, you might want to have an experienced WR coach, no?
November 16th, 2009 at 1:24 pm
Brownstains, go fuk yourself. You’re not one I usually respond to. Too hateful.
November 16th, 2009 at 1:24 pm
Raider Dell Says:
November 16th, 2009 at 1:18 pm
Dakota
I’m still waiting for a picture of my first hire. I need a hot assistant to get me through the long days as a coach.
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Dell imagine this assistant saying …”Coach Dell, you look stressed…can I give you a back rub while you watch the film on the Broncos?”
November 16th, 2009 at 1:24 pm
Frye throwed 2 TD’s last season the only game he played.
JaMarcus has 2 TD’s this season in 9 games.
Nice
November 16th, 2009 at 1:26 pm
Dell,
http://www.thememyphone.com/albums/userpics/11301/Cute_Smaily_Babe.jpg
try that again
November 16th, 2009 at 1:27 pm
I had hoped to never again see the Raiders take the first overall pick in the draft.
November 16th, 2009 at 1:27 pm
Dakota
I’m real concerned. Normally you throw out the link and have no comment. I’ll tell you this, if this is gross or a piece of schit, I’m gone.
Now I;m going to the link. Here goes.
November 16th, 2009 at 1:28 pm
wtf
http://jeffpearlman.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/jamarcus.jpg
November 16th, 2009 at 1:29 pm
Hey Mrs. Brown,
Sorry for the wrong wording… Since you want to get more technical about it…
“Why hasn’t this guy been demoted and replaced by someone else on the staff or outside?”
Yes, assistants do get replaced during the year. Doesn’t happen all that much, and when it does, it’s not paraded in the news.
Now quit acting like your usual dumb self.
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Mistabrown Says:
November 16th, 2009 at 1:13 pm
RaiderMight did you just start watching football last week?
Assistants dont get fired mid season unless the whole staff gets the axe. Wait 7 more weeks, ok ?
November 16th, 2009 at 1:30 pm
Why is everyone so upset? The team CANNOT win with Al Davis as the owner. Its plain and simple.
Blame Cable? Sure he’s a terrible coach. But why is he head coach and OC to begin with? Because YOUR owner can’t hire a competent coach because said Owner is incompetent and a micromanager. don’t blame the idiot coach for being put in a situation he doesn’t deserve to be in and is not qualified for. If Davis offerred me $2Million a year to carry out his explicit orders AND I had no prospects of making that much money in my career…I would take it in a minute and do Al’s bidding. Hate the unqualified Cable all you want….he’s just carrying out orders and doing the best he can to collect as much money to secure his family.
November 16th, 2009 at 1:30 pm
Dakota
I’m back. Very well done.I decided to hire you as my babe coordinator. A side note you can be the Raiderettes coordinator and invite anybody you see fit as the judges.
Very nicely done. Thanks Dakota.
November 16th, 2009 at 1:31 pm
Raider Dell Says:
November 16th, 2009 at 12:14 pm
RaiderDogg Says:
November 16th, 2009 at 11:49 am
Dell
I was very disappointyed to find out that I had lost my job as the musical director at the Coliseum. Please tell me that I have been promoted
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Dogg
I decided to make a change. I appreciate your commitment and experience. I’m looking for a new exciting musical director who has a broad view of the musical industry. I decided to move this year, to Lucifer666 as the current Musical director. Dogg we appreciate your time and wish you and your family well.”
Well isn’t that just a slap in the face? I am much more qualified than SNB666/Lucifer666, no offense to him, but he would tell you the same thing. Why do you let Al Davis make your decisions for you? Grow a sack. will ya
November 16th, 2009 at 1:33 pm
Why is everyone so upset? The team CANNOT win with Al Davis as the owner. Its plain and simple.
Blame Russell? He shouldn’t have been drafted that high in the 1st place. Did they interview him? Did they question his work ethic when he showed up overweight to the combine? What kind of camp do they run where a prominent player THINKS he can show up overweight anyway? Is he really the problem? Part of it, but a guy like that needed to be brought along with great coaching, guidance and discipline. Not a lengthy holdout, 3 playcallers and multiple O.Cs and QB coaches AND piddling help at wide receiver and O-Line. Russell’s attitude and development is atrocious…but why does DAvis keep attracting such players?
Its 100% Al Davis folks
November 16th, 2009 at 1:34 pm
Dogg
I decided to make a change. I appreciate your commitment and experience. I’m looking for a new exciting musical director who has a broad view of the musical industry. I decided to move this year, to Lucifer666 as the current Musical director. Dogg we appreciate your time and wish you and your family well.”
Well isn’t that just a slap in the face? I am much more qualified than SNB666/Lucifer666, no offense to him, but he would tell you the same thing. Why do you let Al Davis make your decisions for you? Grow a sack. will ya
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Mr. Dogg
I appreciate your comment and I will look into the problem. I wish you and your family well. Thanks for all of your heartfelt interest and we hope you find happiness out there. You are very talented, god bless.
November 16th, 2009 at 1:34 pm
http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii195/davpdesign/JamarcusRussell-2-copy.jpg
November 16th, 2009 at 1:36 pm
Why is everyone so upset? The team CANNOT win with Al Davis as the owner. Its plain and simple.
Blame DHB? The whole entire UNIVERSE knew the kid was a big time project if he was drafted in the 2nd round….he just might have dropped to the 3rd possibly. But Al Davis was mesmerized by the kid’s 40x. Its not DHB’s fault he was overdrafed and pressed into service. his college career screamed 3rd round.
Is 100% Al Davis folks
November 16th, 2009 at 1:37 pm
KK
I was at the game and saw that pass to DHB right in front of where I was sitting. That was a perfect pass from JaMarcus and was totally DHB’s fault that it wasn’t a td.
Also J’s numbers were 9/24 for 67 yards with no picks. I counted 8 drops of VERY catchable passes which would bring his numbers to 17/24 for ? yards.
He gets yanked because Cable buckled under the chorus of “Russell sucks” and Gradkowski comes in and throws 2 picks out of 9 attempts.
So who is to blame for bringing in Gradkowski? If you think Al wanted to pull JaMarcus you couldn’t be more wrong. I’m just saying.
November 16th, 2009 at 1:37 pm
SnB #32 is right on.
November 16th, 2009 at 1:38 pm
Why is everyone so upset? The team CANNOT win with Al Davis as the owner. Its plain and simple.
Are you really clamoring for Gradkowski and EXPECTING improvement? Stop overrating middling talent just because the HOMEGROWN talent is bad as well.
This team cannont and will not win until the GM steps down
November 16th, 2009 at 1:38 pm
I’m out.Enjoy the rest of the day over there.
November 16th, 2009 at 1:38 pm
Raider Dell Says:
November 16th, 2009 at 1:34 pm
Dogg
I decided to make a change. I appreciate your commitment and experience. I’m looking for a new exciting musical director who has a broad view of the musical industry. I decided to move this year, to Lucifer666 as the current Musical director. Dogg we appreciate your time and wish you and your family well.”
Well isn’t that just a slap in the face? I am much more qualified than SNB666/Lucifer666, no offense to him, but he would tell you the same thing. Why do you let Al Davis make your decisions for you? Grow a sack. will ya
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Mr. Dogg
I appreciate your comment and I will look into the problem. I wish you and your family well. Thanks for all of your heartfelt interest and we hope you find happiness out there. You are very talented, god bless.”
Wow, yopu do know the rumors about me and your wife are untrue right? I blame Randy Hanson.
In all seriousness I hope that I didn’t do anything to offend you. I am at a loss as to how I could lose such a prestigous job. Well, I guess I will call the Patriots back and accept their offer.
November 16th, 2009 at 1:40 pm
Dogg
How did the stadium look yesterday, half full?
November 16th, 2009 at 1:41 pm
Why is everyone so upset? The team CANNOT win with Al Davis as the owner. Its plain and simple
Did you know that 21 of 24 1st & 2nd round picks since 1999 have busted out? Why is that?
And yet you all blame the players year after year….the GM is out of his mind and is incompetent.
Its 100% Al Davis
November 16th, 2009 at 1:42 pm
Cable Press Conference Remark
Question from media member.
“Coach Cable do you have the qualification to be the HC”
Cable ” Yes I believe I have the qualifications, just look at my record, well what I mean’t to say is were working hard, I see the results during practice and It’s almost there, yes I should be the HC. I know you guys are going to write what you want, but I see these guys everyday, and it’s just a matter of time”.
Oh I forgot this was dated November 17th 2010.
November 16th, 2009 at 1:43 pm
Yeah, there were drops. But he had a F-k load of HORRIBLE passes. That’s why he got yanked. Dude can’t hit Oprah with pancake batter.
November 16th, 2009 at 1:43 pm
SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
November 16th, 2009 at 1:38 pm
Why is everyone so upset? The team CANNOT win with Al Davis as the owner. Its plain and simple.
Are you really clamoring for Gradkowski and EXPECTING improvement? Stop overrating middling talent just because the HOMEGROWN talent is bad as well.
This team cannont and will not win until the GM steps down”
The folks that were sitting next to me yesterday didn’t even notice that there was a QB change until that final drive when DHB bobbled that pass for a pick to end the game. They started screaming “JaMarcus sucks!”. I turned to them and asked “You do realize that Gradkowski has been playing qb since the 3rd quarter?” They looked at me and said “no that was just another JaMarcus pick”. It wasn’t until several people seated in our section confirmed the QB change before these folks would even admit that it wasn’t JaMarcus. Even when he isn’t playing he gets blamed.
November 16th, 2009 at 1:44 pm
Why is everyone so upset? The team CANNOT win with Al Davis as the owner. Its plain and simple
The O-Line is plodding at best. Cornell Green is considered the undisputed starter. Cooper Carlisle tried to test the free agent market and found NO TAKERS! Our center was picked up by default…not because of any deep analysis.
We drafted a speedy receiver with no hands and a safety from a plodding mid-major who wasn’t all-conference in the 2nd round
Yet you all blame the players, coaches, fans, referees, media and all else.
Its 100% Al Davis
November 16th, 2009 at 1:45 pm
Gradkowski is a much better quarterback than Russell. Cable owes it to the rest of the team to give them the best chance to win. Likewise Chaz should be starting over DHB.
November 16th, 2009 at 1:45 pm
And Bush should be starting as well.
November 16th, 2009 at 1:45 pm
KoolKell Says:
November 16th, 2009 at 1:40 pm
Dogg
How did the stadium look yesterday, half full?”
I’d say there might have been almost 38,000 folks there, although I didn’t catch an official attendance announcement, which I am sure was very much on purpose. Mt Davis was almost empty and there were plenty of empty seats all over.
November 16th, 2009 at 1:45 pm
In the meantime, the team’s ethereal concepts can be, and often have been, beaten on Sundays — 79 times in the past 105 games since the start of 2003 to be exact.
November 16th, 2009 at 1:46 pm
RaiderDogg
You are a very rare Dogg. Your preparation is excellent. I would hope in the future you can be dedicated to our goals as a team player, not just to feed your own ego. Please accept our thanks, and remember loose lips sink ships.
November 16th, 2009 at 1:48 pm
KoolKell Says:
November 16th, 2009 at 1:37 pm
SnB #32 is right on.
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Cable hit the lottery and he knows it. I think he is trying hard and wants to succeed…but he has no clue about how to run an NFL team…let alone coach AND GM.
He’s collecting that check. Its a big payday for a career O-Line coach. He tripled or quadrupled his salary this year. And if the Owner keeps him around…will do the same next year. He’ll entertain the masses of Raider fans following his word….but that won’t resolve his lack of qualifications or his baffoonery as a playcalller.
its the owner. Its like hiring a first time electrician to wire your house! Of course he’s probably going to cause a house fire his 1st time out unsupervised!!!…but its your fault for hiring the guy!
November 16th, 2009 at 1:50 pm
Raider Dell Says:
November 16th, 2009 at 1:46 pm
RaiderDogg
You are a very rare Dogg. Your preparation is excellent. I would hope in the future you can be dedicated to our goals as a team player, not just to feed your own ego. Please accept our thanks, and remember loose lips sink ships.”
Did I spill the beans? My ego can get the better of me sometimes, it’s hard when you are this good looking coupled with superior intelligence. But I usually keep my mouth shut when it comes to classified info. I will not divulge any trade secrets to my future employer.
Next time you enter Gillette Stadium you will hear the sounds of Devo’s “Whip It” and you will think of me…
November 16th, 2009 at 1:50 pm
This isn’t rocket science.
Is it all Russell’s fault? No.
Are fans upset about his lack of effort? lack of desire to be prepared? Lack of spark? YES.
Should he be benched? yes
Is it Russell’s fault the receivers dropped the ball? No.
Is it Russell’s fault he missed 5 receivers who were WIDE OPEN? yes.
Should he be benched? yes
is it Russell’s fault he hasn’t learned the playbook? unless it’s printed in Chinese, yes.
Is it Russell’s fault the team has to dumbdown the plays for him? yes
Is it Russell’s fault that he sounds like he’s a clueless hick from the sticks? yes.
Does all the above pizz off the fans? yes.
Does the booing at home games send a signal? yes.
Should the team bench Russell?
YES.
Will it change the end result of the season? Probably not.
BUT STAYING STAGNANT SENDS A VERY BAD SIGNAL TO FANS, who are speaking loud and clear with their pocketbooks.
Besides, Russell should have been benched a lot earlier in the year.
After hearing him say “I’m happy with my progress so far” after having the WORST QB RATING in the league, and being dead last in every category should have been the clue that he doesn’t have a clue.
November 16th, 2009 at 1:52 pm
Kirk Says:
November 16th, 2009 at 1:45 pm
Gradkowski is a much better quarterback than Russell. Cable owes it to the rest of the team to give them the best chance to win. Likewise Chaz should be starting over DHB.
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That team deserves nothing. You think there is a CHANCE to win with Gradkowski? You are swigging kool aid my friend. It DOES NOT MATTER WHO STARTS! The team has limited talent and no professional coaching.
You Gradkowski fans need to be held in check. This kid would be out of the league.
If you want him to play to get Russell out….that’s fine. But don’t think Gradkowski can win games….becuase he simply can’t….if he could…he’d still be in Cleveland…LOL
The team will lose most of its remaining games…period. Forget this whole thing about “best chance to win” They have NO CHANCE OF WINNNING.
So just watch them because you enjoy watching Raider football and realize there is only 16 of these things a year…..don’t lie to yourself or get others here excited because you think there is a path to victory.
There isn’t a chance to win except the chance provided by mathematical chance.
November 16th, 2009 at 1:52 pm
RaiderDogg
The real Devo just popped on in after your comment.
November 16th, 2009 at 1:54 pm
I bet Jeff Garcia is kicking himself right now.
November 16th, 2009 at 1:56 pm
SNB
Yeah, I can’t blame the Coach, what he’s the fifth coach in 5 years?
I can’t blame the rookies either, is it possible for all their draft choices to COINCIDENTALLY BUST OUT?
I don’t think so.
November 16th, 2009 at 1:56 pm
Dakota
My administrative assistant sends out her “LOVE”
Dogg, keep the faith.
Later Nation!
November 16th, 2009 at 1:57 pm
Richochet Says:
November 16th, 2009 at 1:50 pm
This isn’t rocket science.
Is it all Russell’s fault? No.
Are fans upset about his lack of effort? lack of desire to be prepared? Lack of spark? YES.
Should he be benched? yes
Is it Russell’s fault the receivers dropped the ball? No.
Is it Russell’s fault he missed 5 receivers who were WIDE OPEN? yes.
Should he be benched? yes
is it Russell’s fault he hasn’t learned the playbook? unless it’s printed in Chinese, yes.
Is it Russell’s fault the team has to dumbdown the plays for him? yes
Is it Russell’s fault that he sounds like he’s a clueless hick from the sticks? yes.
Does all the above pizz off the fans? yes.
Does the booing at home games send a signal? yes.
Should the team bench Russell?
YES.
Will it change the end result of the season? Probably not.
BUT STAYING STAGNANT SENDS A VERY BAD SIGNAL TO FANS, who are speaking loud and clear with their pocketbooks.
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Richochet,
I am surprised by your last statement. From you of all people…LOL…Send a bad signal to the fans? And the crappy draft picks, stupid coaching hires, arrogance and insistence on not changing doesn’t already send a signal to the fans?
Who the hell cares who starts? Seriously? It will not change the outcome and none of these QBs are likely the long-term answer barring a miracle.
Just call it like it is. Its hopeless. Its about watching Raider games because you enjoy watching football and the Raiders are your favorite team.
Its not about winning man….that boat sailed about week 2 or 3…..let alone last April…or when Kiffin was fired with the projector…or Shell..or when someone thought that Aaron Brooks could win a game…or when Gruden was TRADED….
Its so sad you have to laugh at it to not go crazy….
November 16th, 2009 at 1:57 pm
Greetings Gents… Much as I found yesterday’s performance of “The Keystone Kops At The Koleseum” one of the most cringe-worthy experiences of my football watching life (well, perhaps a distant second to Franco Harris’s *&%£! “miracle” that sent us the boys packing from the playoffs)I have to agree that the root of ALL the Raiders troubles remains Ailing Al’s ineptitude. Come to think of it, you have to try pretty hard and be awfully unlucky to lose so many games for so long.
Look at Norvil Turner. He may be a tool and perhaps unlikely to win the Big One, however, now that he’s with a team that’s actually well managed, he’s winning games and hasn’t lost to his former team since he took over the Dolts.
The thing I just don’t get – perhaps because I am trying to approach this logically – is how, after this many losses – can he not think he’s the problem? The last winning team he had was when he had a GM who was a buffer between him and the team and actually made some good decisions.
The only gratifying thing is the rest of Raider Nation is as p1ssed off as I am…
Hey!? What’s that? It’s an orange and black striped shut-out machine!
Lord help us.
November 16th, 2009 at 1:59 pm
Dell
Go get Gov’t Mule’s new album “By A Thread”. You will thank me later.
November 16th, 2009 at 1:59 pm
Cable
Is it his fault Al butts in? No
Is it his fault Al decides who plays? No.
Is it his fault on who Al decides to sign? No.
Is it Cable’s fault that he looks dead from the neck up during games? yes.
Is it Cable’s fault that the team KNOWS it can do pretty much anything without ever worrying about the head coach getting in their face? YES.
Is it Cable’s fault that he refuses to accept the fact he totally sucks at calling plays? Yes.
It it Cable’s fault that he has no clue what is going on during the games, with the players, because he’s so wrapped up in trying to figure out what play to call? yes.
Should Cable be fired? HELL YES.
So obvious all Cable is worried about is being “a nice guy”..being “a players coach”..being “understanding”..being “non-confrontational unless you wear a dress”.
SO DESPERATE TO HOPE THE PLAYERS GIVE HIM A VOTE OF CONFIDENCE, he doesn’t realize his ass kissing is guaranteeing him a one ticket out of town.
WILL A NEW COACH BE ANY BETTER?
Can he possibly be ANY WORSE? No
November 16th, 2009 at 1:59 pm
Afternoon Ricochet
November 16th, 2009 at 2:00 pm
I was afraid all along that the Raiders would ruin Russell.
November 16th, 2009 at 2:01 pm
Dogg
I will. Do you have my yahoo e-mail. Pleaase send me a shout there, I can’t find yours, since my hard drive crash.
later.
November 16th, 2009 at 2:01 pm
RaiderDogg Says:
November 16th, 2009 at 1:54 pm
I bet Jeff Garcia is kicking himself right now.
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There’s that blind optimism again that keeps us kicking the can down the street and hoping for next year. I thought this year would be the turnaround…but after that Denver game…one can see it is FUNDAMENTALLY broken.
Garcia would be 2-7 too….he’s no QB and neither is Russell, Gradkowski, Frye, Walter, Tui, McCown, Culpepper, Brooks, Collins, George, Hobert, Hollas, Wilson, Hoss, Schroeder, Beurlein, Evans, Wilson, Mirer… and the rest of them…
and Gannon was a last ditch effort to squeeze out a couple of years…that was no different than a drug abuser taking a hit of heroin to make the pain go away for a minute.
Al Davis is incompetent and that’s that!
November 16th, 2009 at 2:03 pm
And by the way… I couldn’t agree more with SNB’s posts… Remember the scene from “Return of the King” when Gandalf says “It was a fool’s hope” when he suspects they’re doomed…? Well, Aragorn just signed a long term deal to remain in the booth at ESPN and Gandalf is staying at Stanford… Ugh.
November 16th, 2009 at 2:04 pm
SNB
I didn’t say the Raiders would be winning with Garcia. All he wanted to do was play and now he is sitting on his hands wishing he was playing.
November 16th, 2009 at 2:06 pm
KoolKell Says:
November 16th, 2009 at 1:56 pm
SNB
Yeah, I can’t blame the Coach, what he’s the fifth coach in 5 years?
I can’t blame the rookies either, is it possible for all their draft choices to COINCIDENTALLY BUST OUT?
I don’t think so.
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KoolKell,
You can’t blame the rookies. when so many bust out…just like in any other problem solving exercise…you have to rule them out and look at other causal factors.
If we were to nerd out and run a regression analysis….Al Davis would be the only independent variable that could not be ruled out.
Its so obvious.
Ran through head coaches…check
Can’t hire universally accepted competent coaches…check
Ran through high end draft picks…check
Busted up stadium and no revenue…check
Look, its Davis’ ship to run as he sees fit. If the league and commissioner are okay with subsidizing this madness…then what can you do.
November 16th, 2009 at 2:07 pm
# SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
November 16th, 2009 at 1:57 pm
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Richochet,
I am surprised by your last statement. From you of all people…LOL…Send a bad signal to the fans? And the crappy draft picks, stupid coaching hires, arrogance and insistence on not changing doesn’t already send a signal to the fans?
Who the hell cares who starts? Seriously? It will not change the outcome and none of these QBs are likely the long-term answer barring a miracle.
Just call it like it is. Its hopeless. Its about watching Raider games because you enjoy watching football and the Raiders are your favorite team.
Its not about winning man….that boat sailed about week 2 or 3…..let alone last April…or when Kiffin was fired with the projector…or Shell..or when someone thought that Aaron Brooks could win a game…or when Gruden was TRADED….
Its so sad you have to laugh at it to not go crazy….
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The signal I was referring to was in relation to the one finger signal from the fans directed at the team.
As each turnover, each missed pass, each fumble..and each blase’ play from Russell, it’s impossible to not notice the tone and antagonism from the home fans.
You’re right, everyone is already PO’ed because of draft picks, coach dealings, interfering, etc..but keeping in a Russell?
It’s like a complete slap in the face, right?
It’s like “I don’t give a damn. I’ll play him as long as I want, regardless of how he plays, or how you feel about it”
Fans forgive a lot, hoping it will “turn out anyway” (drafting, HC, etc) but when it’s so freaking obvious that one player, and only one player is seriously holding back the team? And nothing is done?
Sometimes that slap in the fans face is something they don’t forget..for a long..long time.
Russell needs a kick in the ass. This should be it.
Cable needs a lobotomy. This isn’t it, but..who cares? lol
November 16th, 2009 at 2:07 pm
PrideNPoise Says:
November 16th, 2009 at 1:57 pm
The thing I just don’t get – perhaps because I am trying to approach this logically – is how, after this many losses – can he not think he’s the problem? The last winning team he had was when he had a GM who was a buffer between him and the team and actually made some good decisions.
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It’s gotta be Dementia, no?
Gotta be!
November 16th, 2009 at 2:09 pm
KoolKell Says:
November 16th, 2009 at 2:00 pm
I was afraid all along that the Raiders would ruin Russell.
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Me too. Especially after the Kiffin episode. Russell would not be so inept on another team. He would have been pushed on another team…not just by coaches…but by veteran players that know better.
Imagine if the Ravens had drafted Russell. You think Ray Lewis and Mason would put up with such indifference? John Harbaugh? You think Boschetti..their owner…would protect him?
LOL…its easier to blame coaches and players because they can be fired….the owner is here to stay.
And that’s that!
November 16th, 2009 at 2:09 pm
Al drafted JaBriskettButt on one good game he had in College. That’s it, that is the truth and nobody can prove that fact wrong.
He is not a pro-caliber quarterback. If you think the Raiders can win with him behind center you don’t know football.
November 16th, 2009 at 2:10 pm
The simple fact is this team can’t win until it gets a quality QB. This is pretty much true of every team across the NFL. It’s something we haven’t had since Gannon. Now more than ever this league is all about the passing game.
The defense is solid. Special teams are good. Running backs are solid. O-line is below average but serviceable.
Look at the QBs whose teams are leading their divisions right now:
AFC
East- Tom Brady
North- Carson Palmer
South- Peyton Manning
West- Phillip Rivers/Kyle Orton
NFC
East- Tony Romo
North- Brett Favre
South- Drew Brees
West- Kurt Warner
Of that group there are …
- 3 first-ballot Hall of Famers (Manning, Brady, Favre)
- 1 guy on the bubble (Warner)
- 1 guy who will likely get the Hall when it’s all said and done (Brees)
- 3 more who have had multiple spectacular Pro Bowl seasons and have time to build their resumes get into the Hall as well (Palmer, Rivers and Romo)
That’s 8 of 9 who are leading or tied for their division lead who are either surefire Hall of Famers or proven, multiple Pro Bowl type QBs. And Orton has played very well this season with a 91.1 QB rating.
It’s not a coincidence, folks.
Al Davis’ Raiders can win again but it’s definitely going to take finding the next great QB. Problem is those guys are extremely hard to find. Until then, we’ll continue to suck.
November 16th, 2009 at 2:12 pm
# SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
November 16th, 2009 at 2:01 pm
Al Davis is incompetent and that’s that!
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Oh, don’t get me wrong.
It’s all on Al.
The signings, The attitude. The bad coach hires. The interfering. The bad schemes. The players acting like prima donna’s…etc..etc..etc.
But obviously, Al’s not going anywhere.
Considering a Bekins sized truck just pulled up and delived a 20 year supply of Depends in Alameda means Al’s settling in for the looooong haul.
Oh yeah..”Until WE WIN TWO MORE SUPER BOWLS”..
But still, even at that, how can anyone say Cable has done a good job at anything?
November 16th, 2009 at 2:13 pm
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November 16th, 2009 at 2:17 pm
Richochet,
Agreed. Cable is totally unqualified so you have to fire him. Its like a math equation where Al Davis is a constant. So you have to swap out coaches until you luck up on one that has what it takes and is willing to take the job…
Like Gruden…in the grand scheme of things..the hire was pure luck.
November 16th, 2009 at 2:19 pm
And if you look at the other 3 teams who I believe are in the wild-card lead right now their QBs are: Roethlisberger, Aaron Rodgers and Donovan McNabb.
November 16th, 2009 at 2:19 pm
# KoolKell Says:
November 16th, 2009 at 2:07 pm
PrideNPoise Says:
November 16th, 2009 at 1:57 pm
The thing I just don’t get – perhaps because I am trying to approach this logically – is how, after this many losses – can he not think he’s the problem? The last winning team he had was when he had a GM who was a buffer between him and the team and actually made some good decisions.
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It’s gotta be Dementia, no?
Gotta be!
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Egocentric OLD business men never..as in EVER put the blame on themselves…ever.
Al believes his GM’s did good because of HIS advice.
Al believes he can do a better job that those GM’s that he hired.
Not to mention he saves on that Gm’s salary, lol, which probably has something to do with it, as well.
November 16th, 2009 at 2:22 pm
KoolKell,
I don’t think this is dementia. Davis is lucid and clear thinking in public. Plus, he’s been making these horrible mistakes for 20+ years.
Prior to that Davis was among the 1st:
to go after Historically Black College players in full force…whereas the rest of the league was slow to do that….
he implemented “a then innovative offense” with lots of passing in an era where running still dominated….
he took players that could flat play and didn’t worry about age or attitude issues
Well, everyone caught up to all of the above while Davis was stubborn….then the coaching fraternity changed…then free agency…and innovation took off…yet Davis stayed the same.
He’s not senile…he’s amazingly stubborn and arrogant.
November 16th, 2009 at 2:23 pm
Egocentric OLD business men never..as in EVER put the blame on themselves…ever.
Richochet Says:
November 16th, 2009 at 2:19 pm
Al believes his GM’s did good because of HIS advice.
Al believes he can do a better job that those GM’s that he hired.
Not to mention he saves on that Gm’s salary, lol, which probably has something to do with it, as well.
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Agreed.
November 16th, 2009 at 2:26 pm
Chris in NY Says:
November 16th, 2009 at 2:19 pm
And if you look at the other 3 teams who I believe are in the wild-card lead right now their QBs are: Roethlisberger, Aaron Rodgers and Donovan McNabb.
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Just about all winning QBs are homegrown developed talent. The only ones that are not are Warner and Favre.
Warner was dumb luck….Favre was a once in a lifetime situation because he fell out with his owner AND the Vikings ran the same offense AND had a former coach on staff.
The Raiders ARE INCAPABLE of developing a homegrown QB due to the coaching turnover and rigid offense and piddling talent at receiver and OLine (due to draft strategy)
The best the Raiders will do under Davis…is to get a retread with a little spark that can get the team to a 7-9 to 9-7 record. Kind of like the early 90’s
You will not find winners in free agency unless you are lucky or have a special circumstance.
something that IS HIGHLY unlikely in Oakland given current conditions.
Just enjoy watching the games…..they aren’t winnning anytime soon….and by soon I mean years
November 16th, 2009 at 2:27 pm
AFC
East- Tom Brady
North- Carson Palmer
South- Peyton Manning
West- Phillip Rivers/Kyle Orton
NFC
East- Tony Romo
North- Brett Favre
South- Drew Brees
West- Kurt Warner
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Only 1 out of these 8 qb’s had to start as a rookie, Peyton Manning and he stunk it up. All of the others were groomed behind a starter for at least 1 season if not more. Hell, Favre was so erratic and mistake prone as a backup that the Falcon’s traded him to the Packers for a case of Country Time Lemonade.
The point is, a rookie qb coming into the league and having instant success is very rare, with Flacco and Ryan being more the exception than the rule.
I think there is still a chance for JaMarcus. He has much to figure out on a personal level, but his talent hasn’t dissipated. He is just in a bad situation that is being made worse by thinking too much and not being put in a position to be successfull.
November 16th, 2009 at 2:28 pm
# SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
November 16th, 2009 at 2:17 pm
Richochet,
Agreed. Cable is totally unqualified so you have to fire him. Its like a math equation where Al Davis is a constant. So you have to swap out coaches until you luck up on one that has what it takes and is willing to take the job…
Like Gruden…in the grand scheme of things..the hire was pure luck.
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Absolutely.
Al’s M.O. is to hire unproven assts. or former, down on their luck HC’s who want another shot.
IF the asst is successful? He’s made his bones, and, like Gruden or even Shanahan, doors open to the “good ole’ boy’s club” of revolving head coaches, and they opt out
If the asst is “better than his predecessor” get two years.
If not, start over with a new hire.
Or, as Kiffin learned, got the title, then decided was leaving with the dignity of taking on the old man without backing off..which no doubt surprised the hell out of Al.
Most just shut up, and take the abuse, knowing they might need Al at some point for something.
November 16th, 2009 at 2:29 pm
SnB,
Prior to that Davis was among the 1st:
to go after Historically Black College players in full force…whereas the rest of the league was slow to do that….
“Kansas City had a lot of strong black players as well. The First black QB played for Denver”
he implemented “a then innovative offense” with lots of passing in an era where running still dominated….
“You mean Sid Gillmam?”
he took players that could flat play and didn’t worry about age or attitude issues
Well, everyone caught up to all of the above while Davis was stubborn….then the coaching fraternity changed…then free agency…and innovation took off…yet Davis stayed the same.
He’s not senile…he’s amazingly stubborn and arrogant.
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He takes a lot of credit that aint his too!
November 16th, 2009 at 2:36 pm
RaiderDogg,
I hear you. And I’m not saying it’s all JaMarcus’ fault. But he’s not a rookie anymore. He’s more than halfway through his 3rd season and playing his worst football ever.
Manning “stinking it up” his rookie year looked like this:
56.7 completion pct.
3,739 yards
26 TDs
28 INTs
A lot of INTs, but a lot of production too.
By his 3rd season Manning’s numbers were:
62.5 completion pct.
4,413 yards
33 TDs
15 INTs
by comparrison, JaMarcus’ 3rd season projects to:
47.1 completion pct.
2,000 yards
4 TDs
18 INTs (and 10 lost fumbles)
November 16th, 2009 at 2:37 pm
Keep on hatin’ guys!
Hope it’s therapeutic for you.
Hope it reaaaaaaally makes you feel better.
Hope you get your holiday wishes and that next great coach that “wants to be here AND is willing to take the job” just drops into your laps from the heavens above.
Yes, one day, Al Davis will no longer be here. And until that day, you fellas go ahead and keep on spewing your hatred for everything Al & everything Raiders.
That’s perfectly within your rights. Like I said, I hope it makes you feel better.
I’ll just remind you that there ARE other teams you can root for. Hey, Alex Smith is makin’ a comeback in year #5! Go figure! And you can watch for yourself at a theater near you.
In the meantime, I’ll continue to enjoy my Sundays at the Coliseum. Yeah, I love my Raider Koolaid. I’ll keep drinkin’ until we have a good team again. Oh and trust me, we will have a good team again. And when that time comes, I won’t have any animosity towards any of you. In fact, I’ll pour a fresh round for us all to say “cheers” with.
Sorry, can’t help it man. It’s in the blood.
So with all due respect, keep your sorry-ass petition away from me.
November 16th, 2009 at 2:37 pm
# SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
November 16th, 2009 at 2:22 pm
KoolKell,
I don’t think this is dementia. Davis is lucid and clear thinking in public. Plus, he’s been making these horrible mistakes for 20+ years.
He’s not senile…he’s amazingly stubborn and arrogant.
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However….
One of the traits of dementia is being able to go back to a time, and relive it, almost verbatim.
To view it as just have happened almost yesterday.
Quote stats, revisit comments, and relive moments that meant something to you.
Notice how Al is quick to bring up exactly what happened with Belitnikoff? To toss out stats from the 70’s? To relay team records, and players of old?
But he couldn’t even remember Kiffin’s name.
Had to ask, at the PC announcing Cable’s hiring, if anyone knew anything about “this Cable guy”.
The old days Al felt anyone/everyone wanted to be a Raider.
He actually still believes that.
Used to feel older washed up players can magically perform, just for Al.
How else does one justify his odd hodgepodge of signings, especially Kwame? Somethings he does makes no sense.
Indicative?
maybe, maybe not.
November 16th, 2009 at 2:37 pm
KoolKell,
Yeah, all of that is true. He also had help in the past too. Now its just him and a few lackeys who are happily collecting a check.
Davis is just not as smart as eveyone thinks. This level of ineptitude for so long is unacceptable at every level.
No team has run this poorly and the kicker is that there is no sign of improvement on the horizon.
In fact, things will be influx this offseason as they ever have been.
New Coaching Staff
New QB
New RB
New C, RG, RT
New DT
New MLB, SLB
New NB, FS, and maybe C.J
New PR, KR
And what worst is there is absolutely no confidence Davis can draft correctly. And one has to worry that high round picks might refuse (Eli Manning style) to play for the Raiders.
We haven’t hit rock bottom yet folks
Just enjoy taking in the game. There is only 16 of them year.
Gotta roll…had to get my 2cents worth….Don’t get upset by this stuff…it is what it is!
November 16th, 2009 at 2:39 pm
Gradkowski said he didn’t know when Cable was going to decide.
“I’m not sure what Coach Cable’s going to do or what the coach is going to do and that’s their decision,” Gradkowski said.
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LOL! Not sure what Coach Cable or the coach is going to do and that’s THEIR decision.
Who is the other coach? Cable or the coach? THEIR decision?
In other words. “I’m not sure what Al is going to say. Al and Cable will discuss it and they will let me know.”
November 16th, 2009 at 2:41 pm
Chris in NY
There is no question JaMarcus is no Peyton Manning, maybe that was a bad comparison. But again, a Peyton Manning only comes along once in a while. My point was that JaMarcus would have benefitted his first year or two holding a clipboard and learning behind a veteran qb. I think his game is suffering because of it.
Would things be different if the Raiders drafted Brady Quinn? I doubt it.
Most of the problems are of the organizational kind. JaMarcus showed signs of great improvement as last year progressed. This year he has seriously regressed in his production. Do people just flat out lose their talent?
November 16th, 2009 at 2:41 pm
Richocrap says:
Most just shut up, and take the abuse, knowing they might need Al at some point for something.
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What a bunch of BS.
When???
Name me just ONE of these examples that EVER relied on a good word or a good reference from Al?
Explain why a guy like Gruden, who’s clearly established as a fantastic head coach, needs ANYTHING from Al Davis at this point?
If Gruden, for example, has such ill feelings towards Al, why would he even hesitate to rip him publicly?
What, is Al gonna have Chucky axed or something?
Please.
November 16th, 2009 at 2:42 pm
Chris in NY
Manning also had an established veteran WR in Marvin Harrison to throw the ball to.
November 16th, 2009 at 2:43 pm
Did I mention that I had the pleasure of meeting Jim Plunkett yesterday during the game? A very nice person, although he wasn’t in the best of moods…
November 16th, 2009 at 2:44 pm
# Silver-n-Smac Says:
November 16th, 2009 at 2:37 pm
Keep on hatin’ guys!
Hope it’s therapeutic for you.
Hope it reaaaaaaally makes you feel better.
Hope you get your holiday wishes and that next great coach that “wants to be here AND is willing to take the job” just drops into your laps from the heavens above.
Yes, one day, Al Davis will no longer be here. And until that day, you fellas go ahead and keep on spewing your hatred for everything Al & everything Raiders.
That’s perfectly within your rights. Like I said, I hope it makes you feel better.
I’ll just remind you that there ARE other teams you can root for. Hey, Alex Smith is makin’ a comeback in year #5! Go figure! And you can watch for yourself at a theater near you.
In the meantime, I’ll continue to enjoy my Sundays at the Coliseum. Yeah, I love my Raider Koolaid. I’ll keep drinkin’ until we have a good team again. Oh and trust me, we will have a good team again. And when that time comes, I won’t have any animosity towards any of you. In fact, I’ll pour a fresh round for us all to say “cheers” with.
Sorry, can’t help it man. It’s in the blood.
So with all due respect, keep your sorry-ass petition away from me.
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LMFAO…geez…here he goes again. “I LOVE AL.” “Al is the Raiders” “I always feel like a BIG MAN when I wear my Raider shirt” “If you DON’T LOVE AL, GO SUPPORT ANOTHER TEAM”.
HEY IDIOT, THE RAIDERS ARE NOT AL DAVIS. AL DAVIS IS NOT THE RAIDERS. He’s a man who screwed over another man for the team. He then screwed over player after player, while royally screwing over COACH AFTER COACH AFTER COACH..all for his own sorryass desire to lose his way, instead of winning another way.
Al has also GONE ON RECORD as stating he could give a flying ratsass about the fans.
Al is one of the only owners who won’t even give fans the time of day, actually LOOKING DOWN ON THE FANS AS NOT WORTHY OF HIS TIME.
Quit being a spineless worm with your “I LOVE AL. HE WALKS ON WATER..NO..NO..EVERYONE..STOOOOOP..I CAN’T QUESTION HIM, I WON’T. I WON’T!!!!!!!”
you need to grow up dude. Get out of your silly fantasy land. Al is a snake. He admits to being a snake. He almost revels in it.
And he would be the first to call you a fool for kissing the ground he walks on, because..to him? You aren’t squat.
November 16th, 2009 at 2:46 pm
Silver-N-Smac,
I am with you. I am not hating. Davis has a right to run this franchise the way he wants. I also watch every game and attend a couple of road games per year.
I also get upset when they fail and when the whistle blows to start the game have a feeling that they can win.
But I also see this for what it is. There are certain things this team is doing philosophically that makes winning very, very, very difficult. There are things they are doing in their drafting that makes success very, very, very difficult.
I am just pointing those things out as I see them. That’s all. I say at the end of my posts that we should keep watching and enjoy the game…there are only 16 games per year.
But getting upset and flying off the handle in anger is pointless. They are going to lose more than they win until they can get the formula right….meaning a good coach that can also coexist with Davis.
Ignore these issues if it allows you to enjoy the game Smac. I can enjoy the game and cheer on the team while my two feet are firmly planted in the reality of the day.
A reality that the team proved to us with their uninspiring and sometimes downright putrid play to date.
We have what we have and I’ll just ride with it.
Now I have to go!
November 16th, 2009 at 2:48 pm
# RaiderDogg Says:
November 16th, 2009 at 2:43 pm
Did I mention that I had the pleasure of meeting Jim Plunkett yesterday during the game? A very nice person, although he wasn’t in the best of moods…
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Golfed with Plunkett down at Stanford in a Charity event..
Guy is seriously about as friendly as you can get.
Obviously a different setting than yesterday..
November 16th, 2009 at 2:51 pm
SnB
How does a sane man hire 5 Head Coaches in 5 years?
Arrogance? Demented arrogance?
November 16th, 2009 at 2:52 pm
Fire The WRs Coach!
Fire the RBs coach!
Fire the LBs Coach!
Fire the Oline Coach!
Fire the Dline Coach!
Fire the QB Coach!
Fire the HC!!
Fire everyone that has the term Coach in their tittle!
November 16th, 2009 at 2:52 pm
# Silver-n-Smac Says:
November 16th, 2009 at 2:41 pm
Richocrap says:
Most just shut up, and take the abuse, knowing they might need Al at some point for something.
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What a bunch of BS.
When???
Name me just ONE of these examples that EVER relied on a good word or a good reference from Al?
Explain why a guy like Gruden, who’s clearly established as a fantastic head coach, needs ANYTHING from Al Davis at this point?
If Gruden, for example, has such ill feelings towards Al, why would he even hesitate to rip him publicly?
What, is Al gonna have Chucky axed or something?
Please.
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Obviously you know nothing of business.
Of being in a ‘closed industry’, where, like it or not, you run across others that may have slighted you at some point.
Owners meetings.
NFL events.
Games..or…DUMBASS..in this case..ANNOUNCING GAMES.
Are you seriously THIS STUPID??
ok, peanut..riddle me this.
Gannon.
Negative comments about organization and Al.
Al: I WANT HIM BANNED FROM THE FACILITY.
That’s just a small remote example…
Point is, DUMBASS..If I’m an OWNER..AND I’M CONSIDERING HIRING JOEBLOW FOR A JOB, but…BUT..after leaving his previous job, JOE BLOW THEN PROCEEDED TO MAKE NEGATIVE AFTER NEGATIVE COMMENT ABOUT HIS PREVIOUS OWNER, am I now going to hire this guy, knowing he’ll do the exact same thing to me???
Got it now?
Now get back to kissing your al davis poster, and accept the fact you’re still a dweeb, regardless of Al losing it, or not.
November 16th, 2009 at 2:53 pm
How can we stop KK from asking the same dumb questions every day?
November 16th, 2009 at 2:55 pm
Why did JR get benched, and not DHB?!
November 16th, 2009 at 3:00 pm
KoolKell Says:
November 16th, 2009 at 2:51 pm
SnB
How does a sane man hire 5 Head Coaches in 5 years?
Arrogance? Demented arrogance?
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Or 9 coaches in 19 years? Its his way of doing business.
He’s not tied to the bottom line like other owners because his investment has paid off long-ago.
Other owners are hurting to get a return on the hundreds of millions already invested to buy their teams, pay for their stadiums…and cover the debt service.
Davis is not tied to those financial issues. So he can do things this way with little financial impact.
Or until the rest of the league tires of subsidizing etc….
This is his team to run as he sees fit. I hope he can turn this around eventually because Raider football has been so bad that apathy (not hate) is setting in.
By the way,..an apathetic fan base is far worse than an angry one. Apathetic fan bases eventually lose their franchise whereas angry fanbases have to be appeased!
November 16th, 2009 at 3:00 pm
Raider O Says:
November 16th, 2009 at 2:55 pm
Why did JR get benched, and not DHB?!
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Why didn’t Cable get benched for pulling out the Wildhog yesterday?
What a fukkin tool.
November 16th, 2009 at 3:03 pm
Richochet Says:
November 16th, 2009 at 2:48 pm
# RaiderDogg Says:
November 16th, 2009 at 2:43 pm
Did I mention that I had the pleasure of meeting Jim Plunkett yesterday during the game? A very nice person, although he wasn’t in the best of moods…
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Golfed with Plunkett down at Stanford in a Charity event..
Guy is seriously about as friendly as you can get.
Obviously a different setting than yesterday..
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I could tell that he was a really kind guy, while he spent a few minutes just talking old glory days with me.
November 16th, 2009 at 3:05 pm
I understood why JR got benches the 1st time, but I don’t why it happened yesterday.
Cable is a Fat Monkey Dakota. He ran HB screens with Fargas & Russell!! Fargas & Russell!!!!
Fargas dropped the pass, and Russel had a 1 yard!
November 16th, 2009 at 3:06 pm
Richocrap:
You just don’t get it do you “peanut”?
1. First off, Al Davis IS the Raiders. You’re an IDIOT if you think otherwise. It makes no difference now who he screwed. He IS the team.
2. I don’t give a rat’s ass about Al Davis, any more than he does or does not care about me, the “fan”. I’ve said, many times, that while I have a ton of respect for what he’s done, that he’s made plenty of mistakes.
3. Any moron in here who states that they started being a Raider fan, all the while clueless of how influential Al Davis is/was to every single decision/operation that occurs on a daily basis with the team, is just that – A MORON. So, don’t give me the “you can be a fan of the Raiders exclusive of Al Davis in the equation” crap. That’s just foolish.
4. If you truly despise what he stands for, then YOU are the puppet who chose this team in the first place.
5. If you truly think he meddles too much, then YOU are the puppet who chose this team in the first place.
6. If you truly think he doesn’t know squat about today’s football, YOU are the puppet who chooses to remain a fan of his team.
7. I mean, what kind of idiot roots for a team with the most influential owner in professional sports, and then goes on to whine, biotch, complain, moan & groan every day when things go south?
8. Sorry man – YOU are the suckers. If you can’t stand Al, then why the hell did you choose this team? I keep asking with no good answers.
9. I mean, let’s say ALL of your gripes are legit. Then again. . . YOU are the idiot who keeps on watching. Go root for another team. If everything you whine about is legit, there would be no shame in jumping ship.
Lastly, I don’t kiss his ass. I love my Raider football & the experience I have on Sundays with other fans. I’ve watched this team for 31 years, long enough to know that even great franchises suck badly through stretches. Hey, it happens. Deal with it. We suck. Al has screwed up a crap load over the past 20 years. He’s also plenty capable of turning HIS team around. If you don’t think so, blow off!
Watch or don’t watch. But quit your biotching.
November 16th, 2009 at 3:06 pm
*Don’t understand….
November 16th, 2009 at 3:07 pm
# Raider O Says:
November 16th, 2009 at 2:55 pm
Why did JR get benched, and not DHB?!
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Excellent question.
I’m sure the fact that Al is desperately trying to put all the negative press regarding signing Bey to sleep has something to do with it..although now it’s worse than ever.
What happened to Javon?
how the hell do you pay someone 12 million to sit for a year?
I want his job, lol
November 16th, 2009 at 3:08 pm
Just took a look at the Raiders remaining schedule. The only “winnable” games are against the Redskins and Cleveland. I doubt they win either of those. Looks like a 2-14 season.
November 16th, 2009 at 3:11 pm
I blame 2 people fir this cr@p:
1- Cable for being a fat monkey.
2- Al !! Al hired the fat monkey to be a HC, and drafted a WR with the 7th pick that can’t catch and causes INTs!! WTF?!?!
DHB drops a great pass by JR for a TD, and he caused an INT ( again) by a dumb move!
November 16th, 2009 at 3:12 pm
Richo:
You’re dumb. Plain and simple. People around the league talk negatively about other people/owners/players, etc., all the freakin’ time.
You think Al’s “I want him banned from the facility” did ANYTHING to Gannon’s credibility?
The answer is no fool.
If you’ve handled your business with integrity, that’s what’s going to take you places. Making a negative comment about Al Davis after you’ve already succeeded elsewhere is not gonna ruin your career.
You’re a prime example of this type of cowardice.
November 16th, 2009 at 3:14 pm
Rich,
Some will say Al wants to develop the young talent we have, but then you wonder: so why isn’t Mitchell on the field? He was a 2nd RD pick!
November 16th, 2009 at 3:16 pm
Bill C was right! This team is dumb!
November 16th, 2009 at 3:18 pm
The double bird cost Bud Adams a $250,000 fine.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P7y4dZRKVeE
November 16th, 2009 at 3:19 pm
I wonder how Crabtree is doing… Oh wait….
November 16th, 2009 at 3:20 pm
Huff plays well on passing downs, but he doesn’t do much against the RUN. Put Mitchell in there on 1st and 2nd downs!
November 16th, 2009 at 3:21 pm
Adam_Schefter NFL slapped Titans owner Bud Adams with a whopping $250,000 fine for flipping the double bird.
43 minutes ago from web
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lmfao how much is al davis getting fined for flipping the raider nation the double bird every sunday
hell al even throws in a suc@ my d(#k sign as well !!!!!!!!!!
November 16th, 2009 at 3:26 pm
This team does NOT need a new coach.
It does NOT need a new owner.
It does NOT need a complete make-over.
What it DOES need is a good right-hand man to help Al deal with a lot of issues he used to have help with.
That aside, this team needs to continue with the little bit of stability it showed by bringing the coach back.
I realize none of that satisfies any of you.
Guess what – tough crap.
I’ll say it again. Kenny Stabler didn’t start until his 5th freakin’ year in the league.
Good players don’t always become good overnight.
For every Matt Ryan, the majority of QB’s still need a few years in the league to develop into legit players.
Very few of you have the foresight to see that.
You want instant gratification (like this blog).
That’s sad.
November 16th, 2009 at 3:26 pm
It’s the same issues every year. Different coaches but the same results. We can’t pass, and we can’t stop the run! We had Moss, and we couldn’t pass due to the bad oline.
November 16th, 2009 at 3:27 pm
Silver-N-Smac
You are right. People have to accept that DAvis is the owner and will run it as they see fit. But people also have a right to complain and comment about the current state.
People complain about the government all the time. Does it mean they hate their country?
Blind allegance is hardly the answer either. But if you are cool with it all then I say fine.
But don’t slam people that are pointing out the obvious shortcoming of this team over SEVEN years.
We aren’t talking 2004….I would be/was the 1st to say calm down.
But after 7 yrs of the worst football in history and no sight of measurable/objective improvement….I think a healthy or even unhealthy critique is fully warranted.
All of those guys…owner/players/coaches are getting millions of dollars for failing week in and week out.
In the real world, people get fired without the financial cushion.
One can criticize this mess and still be a fan.
And sir….this is a hot mess we have on our hands!
November 16th, 2009 at 3:28 pm
SnB,
7years below .500!!! Whatchu talking about?! lol
November 16th, 2009 at 3:28 pm
# Silver-n-Smac Says:
November 16th, 2009 at 3:06 pm
Richocrap:
You just don’t get it do you “peanut”?
1. First off, Al Davis IS the Raiders. You’re an IDIOT if you think otherwise. It makes no difference now who he screwed. He IS the team.
RICHOCHET; no, YOU’RE A PUPPET AND A SORRY LEMMING for even stating that. The moment he turns over the team, THE TEAM WILL DO BETTER. THAT EXACT MOMENT things will start looking up. You’re just a worm who lives vicariously though the old guy, and that’s sad.
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2. I don’t give a rat’s ass about Al Davis, any more than he does or does not care about me, the “fan”. I’ve said, many times, that while I have a ton of respect for what he’s done, that he’s made plenty of mistakes.
RICHOCHET; Then why state ‘IF YOU DON’T LOVE AL, GO SUPPORT ANY OTHER TEAM”?? LOL..don’t start contradicting yourself now.
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3. Any moron in here who states that they started being a Raider fan, all the while clueless of how influential Al Davis is/was to every single decision/operation that occurs on a daily basis with the team, is just that – A MORON. So, don’t give me the “you can be a fan of the Raiders exclusive of Al Davis in the equation” crap. That’s just foolish.
RICHOCHET: Oh BULL****. You’re not talking about what effect an owner has, you moron, you’re talking about AL DAVIS IS THE RAIDERS. he’s not, fool. He’s the owner. A HELL OF A LOT OF RAIDER FANS ARE FANS OF THE TEAM..you know..the players..the game..NOT THE OWNER..the team.
ACCORDING TO YOU, WHEN AL GOES, YOU GO. WHEN AL LEAVES, YOU LEAVE. IN OTHER WORDS, YOU’RE NOT A RAIDER FAN, YOU’RE A AL DAVIS FAN..a puppet.
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4. If you truly despise what he stands for, then YOU are the puppet who chose this team in the first place.
RICHOCHET: he’s the WORST OWNER IN ALL OF SPORTS. the worst, bar none. NO ONE DISPUTES THAT..ok..now..explain how you STILL LOVE EVERYTHING HE STANDS FOR..puppet.
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5. If you truly think he meddles too much, then YOU are the puppet who chose this team in the first place.
RICHOCHET: LMAO..geez..you’re pathetic..look at you? That’s ignorant, dude, big time.
See, GANNON SAYS HE MEDDLES TOO MUCH.
Jerry Rice says HE MEDDLES TOO MUCH.
Tim Brown? SAME THING.
Sapp? Same thing?
Garner? washington? Simms? on and on and on?? SAME THING.
THE GUY CALLS DOWN WHAT DEFENSIVE SCHEME HE WANTS..you moron.
The guy strolls on the field, in his gold cart, and calls everyone over..YOU MORON..that’s meddling, big time.
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6. If you truly think he doesn’t know squat about today’s football, YOU are the puppet who chooses to remain a fan of his team.
RICHOCHET; While you stupidly remain a fan of THE MAN. You don’t like the Raiders. You live vicariously though the man. You puff out your chest, bragging about Al, but now? Now you’re reduced to defending his idiot decisions. Now, YOUR FRIENDS ARE LAUGHING AT YOU..and you don’t know how to bow out gracefully.
HERE’S MY GUARANTEE..when Al goes, so do you. And you’ll blame all those ‘SORRY FANS WHO DIDN’T SUPPORT HIM WHILE HE WAS STILL AROUND”..because..you’re a PUPPET.
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7. I mean, what kind of idiot roots for a team with the most influential owner in professional sports, and then goes on to whine, biotch, complain, moan & groan every day when things go south?
RICHOCHET: Al hasn’t done a damn thing in OVER TWO DECADES, fool. has not affected a damn thing since the 70’s…YEAH..THE 70′S. Things went south over 25 years ago, clown.
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8. Sorry man – YOU are the suckers. If you can’t stand Al, then why the hell did you choose this team? I keep asking with no good answers.
RICHOCHET: Want a great answer? BECAUSE EVERYONE WHO’S SLAPPING YOU UPSIDE YOUR HEAD ARE RAIDER FANS. No one says “We’re going to go watch KC play Al Davis’
Got it, MORON? lol..why do I know you don’t?
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9. I mean, let’s say ALL of your gripes are legit. Then again. . . YOU are the idiot who keeps on watching. Go root for another team. If everything you whine about is legit, there would be no shame in jumping ship.
RICHOCHET: of course you feel that way. YOU’RE NOT A RAIDER FAN, you’re an Al Davis fan. YOU ADMITTED IT. you stated you’re a fan BECAUSE OF AL, not the team. Means as a fan YOU SUCK. So good riddance once Al is gone, so will you.
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Lastly, I don’t kiss his ass. I love my Raider football & the experience I have on Sundays with other fans. I’ve watched this team for 31 years, long enough to know that even great franchises suck badly through stretches. Hey, it happens. Deal with it. We suck. Al has screwed up a crap load over the past 20 years. He’s also plenty capable of turning HIS team around. If you don’t think so, blow off!
RICHOCHET: LMAO..are you crying? Sound like it..little hissy fit? stomping feet? balled up fists?? little tantrum?
Here’s the reality, moron.
Owners, LIKE COACHES, have basically two rules.
1. you do everything you can to help the team win.
2. You never do anything that directly affected why you lost.
When coaches don’t do the above? THEY’RE FIRED.
Al? iF HE WAS COACH, OR GM? HE WOULD HAVE BEEN FIRED 25 YEARS AGO…and 24 years ago..and 20 years ago…19…17…4, 3, 2….
GET it?? yeah, yeah…he “can turn it around”…HOW MANY LOSING SEASON, DECADES DOES HE GET A PASS WHILE HE RUNS THE TEAM INTO THE GROUND, while fools like YOU wait for ONE moment of glory, believing it erases the last few decades of futility??
November 16th, 2009 at 3:30 pm
Instant!! 7 years with the same bad results! That’s called CONSTANT!!
November 16th, 2009 at 3:31 pm
Time for me to go study. Later Gents.
November 16th, 2009 at 3:33 pm
# Silver-n-Smac Says:
November 16th, 2009 at 3:12 pm
Richo:
You’re dumb. Plain and simple. People around the league talk negatively about other people/owners/players, etc., all the freakin’ time.
You think Al’s “I want him banned from the facility” did ANYTHING to Gannon’s credibility?
The answer is no fool.
RICHOCHET; No, it DESTROYED THE LAST REMAINING BIT OF AL’S CREDIBILITY. Across the Raider nation, fans were loud and clear on saying F*** you Al, for his classless decision.
GANNON WAS THE ONE WHO WALKED PROUD, when he stated ‘Oh, uh, I missed my plane” and didn’t show up at the coliseum, where Al was powerless to keep him out, because of LEAGUE RULES.
Gannon held his head up, and refused to add to Al’s crash and burn.
Yeah, did nothing to hurt Gannon, but it got negative press, and Gannon did everything he could to defuse it.
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If you’ve handled your business with integrity, that’s what’s going to take you places.
RICHOCHET: And one thing Al has is ZERO integrity. None.
You will find not one single person who states Al Davis has integrity.
Everyone knows he’s a backstabbing snake in the grass, that will screw over friends, family, team and fans..for a buck.
Kiss that poster, lemming, as only YOU can.
November 16th, 2009 at 3:35 pm
Cable says QB decision to come on Wed.—D. White.
November 16th, 2009 at 3:36 pm
LONG ONE FROM MICHAEL SILVER BUT ON THE SPOT:
Darrius Heyward-Bey, that was some hellacious handiwork with 30 seconds remaining in the Raiders’ 16-10 defeat to the Chiefs at the Oakland-Alameda County Coliseum, trying to pull a nice pass from Bruce Gradkowski into your chest at the 10-yard line and instead lifting it over your head and into the waiting arms of Kansas City Chiefs safety Mike Brown for the game-clinching interception. Call it the signature moment of a horrific afternoon and regrettable rookie season that has done nothing but validate the opinions of all the NFL draft-weekend skeptics who thought you were a ridiculous reach when Oakland made you the seventh overall pick. Though you’ve been a starter all year long, you’ve managed just six catches for 96 yards for an offense in desperate search of a playmaker. Remember all the people who scoffed at offensive coordinator Tom Walsh during Art Shell’s second stint as the Raiders’ coach in 2006? Well, Mr. Bed and Breakfast looks downright progressive compared to the current brain trust. Sunday was Tom Cable’s 21st game as head coach, and the 16th in which Oakland has scored one offensive touchdown or fewer (in half of those 16 games, the Raiders haven’t scored any offensive TDs). Nine games into the ’09 campaign, the Silver and Black has managed seven offensive scores. Seven! Coming off a bye week, the Raiders (2-7) put up just 10 points against Kansas City (2-7), which has the third-lowest-ranked defense in the AFC. Be it Cable or Heyward-Bey, all I can say is this: Al Davis, you sure know how to pick ‘em.
November 16th, 2009 at 3:38 pm
LMFAO at Silver and Smac:
“We don’t need a new HC, or different players..or an owner to butt out..we just need Al to get “help”"
awww..how sweet…you’re accepting the old guy has lost it, and does actually, in fact, NEED A GM…where Al needs to BUTT THE HELL OUT…
Good little lemming..you’re getting it, finally.
November 16th, 2009 at 3:40 pm
It’s with some fondness I recall Shell’s Bed & Breakfast offense. They were a juggernaut by comparison. For some reason the players can’t seem to implement Cable’s Broke-Jaw-B*tch-Slap–Express.
November 16th, 2009 at 3:41 pm
Will say one thing about Bey…while he went over the “two touch” limit, every volleyball player was proud of his “3-set” touch on that ball yesterday..perfect volleyball form, setting that ball up.
November 16th, 2009 at 3:42 pm
# 909RaiderLifer Says:
November 16th, 2009 at 3:35 pm
Cable says QB decision to come on Wed.—D. White.
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Translation: “Al should get a hold of me by then, and let me know what he wants me to do”
November 16th, 2009 at 3:44 pm
Al: Why do you keep putting in Jaworski?
Cable: Ah…it’s Gradkowski, sir.
Al: Whatever.
November 16th, 2009 at 3:47 pm
Bruce Satrian
http://i251.photobucket.com/albums/gg309/johnnyv_2008/joesatriani.jpg
November 16th, 2009 at 3:50 pm
Silver-n-Smac Says:
November 16th, 2009 at 3:26 pm
This team does NOT need a new coach.
It does NOT need a new owner.
It does NOT need a complete make-over.
What it DOES need is a good right-hand man to help Al deal with a lot of issues he used to have help with.
That aside, this team needs to continue with the little bit of stability it showed by bringing the coach back.
I realize none of that satisfies any of you.
Guess what – tough crap.
I’ll say it again. Kenny Stabler didn’t start until his 5th freakin’ year in the league.
Good players don’t always become good overnight.
For every Matt Ryan, the majority of QB’s still need a few years in the league to develop into legit players.
Very few of you have the foresight to see that.
You want instant gratification (like this blog).
That’s sad.
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What dimension does this guy live in? In this dimension the Oakland Raiders are one of the worst franchises in professional sports due to the owner and the HC is an unqualified guy named Tom Cable.
November 16th, 2009 at 3:50 pm
Good thing Al Davis was not at his home in the Coachella Valley. He might have kicked in his new doors with his walker.
http://www.sanssoucie.com/blog/2009/10/glass-doors-for-oakland-raiders-al-davis/
November 16th, 2009 at 3:51 pm
Have a good one fellas…
November 16th, 2009 at 4:04 pm
Richocrap:
I love how you quote me and then completely insert the words you want.
Hey dumb-ass, if you’re going to quote me, then quote me. Don’t make shiot up.
When did I say anything about loving Al????
What I said is that if you don’t acknowledge that Al is EVERYTHING Raiders, then you’re in denial. Everything you like or don’t like will remain as long as he’s the owner. Period. You don’t like it? Leave.
YOU are the puppet for calling yourself a “Raiders” fan, without acknowledging that that word is synonymous with Al Davis, good or bad.
If Al Davis hasn’t done anything since the 70’s, who’s the idiot who keeps on watching HIS team, all the while believing that Davis is incapable of running a team?
If you’ve believed he’s an inept owner for the past 25 years, then what the hell are you doing watching HIS team?
What are you – stupid? The team is a product of everything he exudes. If you root for the team, you are an idiot if you don’t fully acknowledge that THAT team is completely defined by HIM.
You’re a freakin’ idiot. I don’t know why I waste my time with you.
November 16th, 2009 at 4:10 pm
KoolKell Says:
November 16th, 2009 at 12:32 pm
The Blackouts will continue until the fans see some REAL CHANGE.
More lipstick on this pig, in the form of Re-tread Coaches, rookie no-name coaches, or sons of coaches will not get it.
Al Davis will have to cede power to lift the blackouts
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EXACTLY!!!
Can’t wait for crazy old man Al Davis to select USAIN BOLT with the top three pick next year!!
Freakin the old looney probably already thought about it.
I know some Charger fans that keep saying that they hope Al Davis lives forever and that he keeps making all the decisions until he dies!
LOL….they say that cause they know the team will continue to suck as long as Al Davis is in charge!
How freakin pathetic!
Thanks again old man for ruining the franchise!
Appreciate it….moron!
November 16th, 2009 at 4:11 pm
Yeah bring cable back as if he isn’t a big enough joke, 2009 not 69 don’t care how long it took Snake to get good we aren’t asking tubby to be Manning but how about 150y no picks and just maybe these things called TD but no he can’t even hit wr go watch that last pass he threw to JLH just awful.
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