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Last of Russell in ’09? Not likely

Raiders coach Tom Cable made it clear Wednesday he wasn’t looking at the elevation of Bruce Gradkowski to starting quarterback as a temporary move.

It’s hard to look at the schedule and conclude we’ve seen the last of Russell this season.

Over the next three weeks, the Raiders host Cincinnati (7-2), travel to Dallas (6-3) on short rest for Thanksgiving and then play at Pittsburgh (6-3).

It makes for a nice story to see the underdog quarterback jumpstart a sagging offense, delivering the ball smartly to wide receivers and engineering some competitive games and maybe even a win or two.

Let’s keep in mind Gradkowski has yet to lead the Raiders to a touchdown, and in his last start _ for the Cleveland Browns last season against Pittsburgh _ completed 5 of 16 passes for 18 yards, was sacked three times, intercepted twice and had a quarterback rating of 1.0 in a 31-0 loss.

That’s not meant to be critical of Gradkowski so much as illustrate he hasn’t exactly played for NFL powers of late, having bounced from Tampa Bay to St. Louis (he was cut before playing a game) to Cleveland last December before joining the Raiders.

If the offense continues to struggle over over the next few games, which end in one-sided defeats, look for the company line to be that Russell has cleared his head, improved his work ethic and is ready to return.

On Dec. 13, the Raiders host the Washington Redskins before road games at Denver and Cleveland, allowing Russell a chance to pull out of a tailspin much as he did last season.

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Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer

  • 1The coaches failed because they were hired to fail, ColoradoRaider. Give me a better explanation for 7 straight losing seasons, and Kiffin’s practically immediate dismissal.

  • 16yearsold16yearfan
  • SnB offense defense specialteams

    24.ColoradoRaiderFan Says:
    November 18th, 2009 at 3:09 pm
    Guys like Billy Volek and Chris Simms are always considered great backups. Problem is they never do well in a starting roll.
    ======================================================
    Well, those are the guys we have roll with.

    CAn’t develop our own talent because of coaching chaos, poor talent evaluation, poor surrounding cast and questionable scheme.

    So you have to try and pick through the trash and find a treasure.

    That’s who the Raiders are!

  • DKnight007

    The Real MaddenRaider Says:
    November 18th, 2009 at 2:29 pm
    You can bbq anywhere! Why give hundreds of dollars to an NFL owner who’s trying to lose while you bbq? If people are worried about losing their friends, they can get in touch elsewhere. And like I said, what kind of friend lets you spend your hard earned money on an NFL owner trying to lose?

    ^^^^^^^^
    EXACTLY!

  • Infinite Raider

    Completely agree with your assessment Jerry.
    Prediction for this wknd: 180 yards, 1 TD, 1INT, 3 sacks, 20 yards rushing.
    Russell should be back by Thanksgiving after having ‘cleared his head’.

  • If you think firing Cable, cutting Russell, and bringing in a fresh face at Coach is going to substantially arouse the fan base. I think you’re being naive.

    Been there, done that!

  • 16yearsold16yearfan

    best observation of russell and the raiders
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qUCvLA-DnjM

  • SnB offense defense specialteams

    Dakota Says:
    November 18th, 2009 at 3:09 pm
    SnB,

    I might be wrong, but I don’t think the Raiders could cut Russell this season…his entire prorated bonus would come home to roost on this year’s cap. They can cut him next year without any cap problems, but not this year.
    ===================================================
    Regardless,

    Once a guy like that fails…he rarely makes it back. The Raiders are so poorly run that only they could screw it up like that.

  • Infinite Raider

    …I wonder (hopefully) if the Oakland lease extension is at all related to the possibility of a stadium sharing deal in Santa Clara (since it is conceivable–if approved–could be open for biz by 2014 season).

  • ColoradoRaiderFan

    So your saying in Baldkowski’s first start, he puts up numbers that are almost as good as Russells best day ever?

  • SnB offense defense specialteams

    KoolKell Says:
    November 18th, 2009 at 3:15 pm
    If you think firing Cable, cutting Russell, and bringing in a fresh face at Coach is going to substantially arouse the fan base. I think you’re being naive.

    Been there, done that!
    =======================================================
    you are right. no question. You are right.

    But Davis is a constant that is not going away.

    So the only hope is to find another Gruden type that can succeed (if only briefly) in this toxic environment

  • KoolKell Says:
    November 18th, 2009 at 3:15 pm
    If you think firing Cable, cutting Russell, and bringing in a fresh face at Coach is going to substantially arouse the fan base. I think you’re being naive.

    Been there, done that!

    _____________________

    Schit KK, re-hiring the Wife Beating Buffoon and drafting a WR that can’t catch and a S that no one has ever heard of in the first two round last year had most people in here predicting playoffs lol.

    Al knows that most Raider fans are gullible. He changes the coach, adds a couple of players and most fans will be thinking playoffs again…sad isn’t it?

    Just look at the fans’ reaction after the Eagles win…a game where the Eagles just were not ready to play and failed to exploit the run…fans went apeschit again.

  • SnB offense defense specialteams

    Good teams stay good because they keep the same QB for 10 or so years.

    If you don’t have a QB like that…you better be developing one.

  • 16yearsold16yearfan

    look what happens when he throws to wr who can catch and he trusts
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=23R65rpYNTQ

  • ColoradoRaiderFan

    With Davis around, I don’t think we can get a coach that will arouse the fan base. Maybe someone respectable, like Fassel. I do think a good QB would excite people. No more combine potential.

  • 16yearsold16yearfan Says:
    November 18th, 2009 at 3:17 pm

    best observation of russell and the raiders
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qUCvLA-DnjM
    ——————————
    Exactly!

  • 16yearsold16yearfan

    but this is the reason most of you guys dont like him
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kjDW37CIPh4

  • mike

    Cutting Garcia was retarded. he should have been starting since day one. also dhb (drops hella balls) needs to spend time on the bench, he’s obviously not ready and does not need to be on the field. I’m pulling hard for bruce.

  • SnB offense defense specialteams

    16yearsold16yearfan Says:
    November 18th, 2009 at 3:22 pm
    look what happens when he throws to wr who can catch and he trusts
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=23R65rpYNTQ
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    16,
    Tom Cable jacked up the playbook and playcalling.

    The two rookies didn’t help…and Russell was not motivated to come in at weight.

    Something changed for the worse when Cable was hired.

    DMAC is now garbage….the O-Line is garbage….and Bush doesn’t get the ball.

    WE have what we have

  • Kirk

    If we start Gradkowski, Bush, and Schilens, we have a chance at some offense.

  • Colorado, what makes you think Davis even wants a good coach? All he has to do is offer a good coach a contract that guarantees him the control he wants, and the money he’s due to receive, and that doesn’t have a bunch of fine print that defines “cause for termination” as goofy things like not following Raider tradition, etc. Basically, all Al has to do is offer a coach a real contract, and they’re here. He offered Petrino and Peyton the money, but that was it. He put all that cause b.s. in their contracts, too. And woulnd’t give them control. Otherwise, they’d be here. Why wouldn’t they? They’d have control, and theyd have the money. There’s be no reason not to coach here. The reason why we don’t have a good coach, and never will, is because Al Davis doesn’t want one. Al davis wants to lose…more badly than any owner in the game!

  • SnB offense defense specialteams

    Kirk Says:
    November 18th, 2009 at 3:28 pm
    If we start Gradkowski, Bush, and Schilens, we have a chance at some offense.
    ====================================================
    No we don’t

  • Kirk

    WE DID NOT RUN ONE MISDIRECTION PLAY THE ENTIRE GAME ON SUNDAY.

    What kind of idiot doesn’t run one misdirection the entire game?????

  • Kirk

    Yes, we do.

  • ColoradoRaiderFan

    I’m impressed. The 16 year old found proof of JaMarcASS completing passes to the WR’s.

  • VanHeathen

    How many furr Coats can one man own?

  • exlaraiderseasonticketholder

    If you look at Russell’s physical condition for the Tean game last year, he was in shape. Maybe a few pounds over his college weight. He was mobile and looked like an NFL QB. Look at this video of him and Troy Smith at the Nat’l Championship game. Must have been 245.

  • exlaraiderseasonticketholder
  • ColoradoRaiderFan

    Al want’s control obviously. But he doesn’t want to lose. If we don’t win, he can’t fill luxury boxes, then he doesn’t make money, and apparently the man isn’t worth as much as he used to be. Sure he’s obessesed with the past, demented, scewed up, and a detriment to the franchise, but he still wants to win.

  • They can’t develop a QB, and they can’t figure out a way to exploit McFadden’s talents.

    That organization is just not very good at the Football business.

  • SnB offense defense specialteams

    Also,

    Why would a Sam Bradford, or anyone in his caliber, even want to play in Oakland.

    He would refuse….look at our track record. He would be throwing his career away putting it in the hands of Al Davis

  • ColoradoRaiderFan

    Maybe they have found a way to use DMAC, he’s just never broken an arm tackle. Maybe if he develops calf muscles.

  • Colorado, give me a better reason for Al losing 7 straight seasons than him wanting to lose? I don’t buy that he’s “demented”. If Al really was crazy he’d show more signs of it than just being stuck in the past. Most old people are stuck in the past. Their better years were in the past. Of course they’re going to long for that time, and face the day’s problems the way they would have faced them then, when they always seemed to have the right answer and succeeded. Prove Al Davis crazy. He’s coherent. Aside from physical ailments, he’s capable of carrying a conversation and running a business. Give me a better reason for his losing than the simple fact that he wants to lose, for whatever reason. Probably to get out of Oakland.

  • SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
    November 18th, 2009 at 3:36 pm
    Also,

    Why would a Sam Bradford, or anyone in his caliber, even want to play in Oakland.

    He would refuse….look at our track record. He would be throwing his career away putting it in the hands of Al Davis
    __________________________

    Yep. I wouldn’t be shocked if the agents for the top ten players in next year’s draft tell Al thanks, but no thanks…you might pay us great on the rookie contract, but you will ruin the player before he can get his second let alone third contract.

    And then Al will say…who are your guys anyhow? I want player X (who most have predicted will go in round 2) lol

  • 16yearsold16yearfan

    i just saw a video from when he was in highschool and he was looking guys off and everything the stuff everybody says he doesnt do now if he was doing it in 9th grade through his jr year in college but all of a sudden he cant do it now than its obviously the raiders fault if cable wasnt an idiot and let javon play didnt call horrible games than maybe jruss wouldnt be so bad but if al never hired the caveman and didnt draft dhb this wouldnt be a problem

  • ColoradoRaiderFan Says:
    November 18th, 2009 at 3:37 pm

    Maybe they have found a way to use DMAC, he’s just never broken an arm tackle. Maybe if he develops calf muscles.
    —————————-
    Russell & McFadden were Top Producers in college. They didn’t wander in here off the playground.

  • DKnight007

    haha…lease extension until 2013 huh??

    Sheesh….no new stadium for the Raiders in the Bay Area for at least 10 years??!! Ugh….

    Here come the Los Angeles Chargers!

  • SnB offense defense specialteams

    ColoradoRaiderFan Says:
    November 18th, 2009 at 3:34 pm
    Al want’s control obviously. But he doesn’t want to lose. If we don’t win, he can’t fill luxury boxes, then he doesn’t make money, and apparently the man isn’t worth as much as he used to be.
    =======================================================
    Davis makes enough money from the league revenue sharing (which the Raiders contribute little) to be profitable.

    Davis has already long paid off any loans he needed to make when he got the team for a song back in the 70s. He doesn’t have any expensive capital tied up in a stadium or massive renovation…and he has few if any other business interests that are draining his cash flow.

    So he isn’t nearly as sensitive to empty seats as other owners. That’s why he doesn’t maximize the value of this product. Few marketing tie-ins….no lucrative radio…no fans at training camp etc..etc..etc

    Davis is an old school owner. If a new owner bought the team and had a bunch of debt to repay…you would see much more rapid changes

  • ColoradoRaiderFan

    I think Al is a narcissis. He thinks that because he was successful in the past, that he can do it again. Never mind that he had good people around him way back when. I think Jerry Jones is heading down that same road. They still want to win, but their way.

    That’s just my guess.

  • Richard Bentley

    The condition of Raiders organization reminds me of a scene after a World War I battle. People looking through the corpses and the dead rats in the trenches for reusable equipment. What a disaster. And however good or bad a coach Cable may be, I can’t help but feel sorry for him. He was saddled with a team that at the very best is totally raw offensively, he was set up by Hansen, and then his ex-wife and girl friend decided to kick him when he was down. And I think he’s a pretty honest and straightforward guy.
    Man, what a mess.

  • VanHeathen

    post #39 is the most accurate assesment of Al’s state of mind.
    There are multiple problems, but good coaching,accountability and a modern playbook would go a long way towards reclaiming some success as a team…

  • ColoradoRaiderFan

    I don’t think the empty seats really matter to him. I read that the money from tickets goes into a league pool, but the money from luxury boxes goes straight to the owner.

    Didn’t Al have to sell off percentages of the team last year?

  • DKnight007

    SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
    November 18th, 2009 at 3:17 pm
    Dakota Says:
    November 18th, 2009 at 3:09 pm
    SnB,

    I might be wrong, but I don’t think the Raiders could cut Russell this season…his entire prorated bonus would come home to roost on this year’s cap. They can cut him next year without any cap problems, but not this year.
    ===================================================
    Regardless,

    Once a guy like that fails…he rarely makes it back. The Raiders are so poorly run that only they could screw it up like that.

    ^^^^^^^^
    EXACTLY!!

  • DKnight007

    ColoradoRaiderFan Says:
    November 18th, 2009 at 3:48 pm
    I don’t think the empty seats really matter to him. I read that the money from tickets goes into a league pool, but the money from luxury boxes goes straight to the owner.

    Didn’t Al have to sell off percentages of the team last year?

    ^^^^^^^^
    He better start caring….the empty seat situation will continue to get worse and the fans will continue to backlash and revolt against his idiotic a$$…and embarass him some more.

  • AbusedByAl

    Here is another youtube pearl:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eK3k-LLnZ7k

    Now seriously: I’m shocked!!! No intelligent man speaks in the way Russell does. If I was responsible for his hiring in any capacity, after a two minute conversation I would know beyond any doubt and once and for all that he is unqualified for anything but MAYBE a job as an operator in the local car wash. I would not need to see any CV or football highlight reel or anything to come to this conclusion. Did he ever attend school? Seriously, I mean it. NFL quarterback? Leader?? Gym rat??? Face of the franchise??? You’ve got to be kiddin’ me!!

  • DownTheBayMOG

    “Now seriously: I’m shocked!!! No intelligent man speaks in the way Russell does. If I was responsible for his hiring in any capacity, after a two minute conversation I would know beyond any doubt and once and for all that he is unqualified for anything but MAYBE a job as an operator in the local car wash. I would not need to see any CV or football highlight reel or anything to come to this conclusion. Did he ever attend school? Seriously, I mean it. NFL quarterback? Leader?? Gym rat??? Face of the franchise??? You’ve got to be kiddin’ me!!”

    What about his transcript or his wonderlic score? He scored a 24 which is equivalent to Peyton manning and higher than Eli. Don’t judge a book by it’s cover. he;s from the deep south. Have you ever heard a Steve McNair interview when he first hit the league? The guy is not dumb at all. he’s very intelligent and YES he did go to school. Don’t be so prejudiced in your assesment of people. I’ve heard many proper talking dummies in my life. have you ever seen Gangland on the history channel? The guys from California have a wonderful dialect, speak great english and talk very proper yet most of them are dead or in prison…would you hire them?

  • aig

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  • ohioraider

    It’s not that Uncle Al wants to lose, it’s that he doesn’t know how to win in the new NFL. He won’t put in the necessary professional infrasture in place, and then step back and allow that infrastructure to do its job. Like many a megalomaniac, he’d rather fail doing it his own way then concede that he’s wrong. And that’s pretty tragic.

    There is no coach, and no draft pick that can turn this situation around. Zero. Zip. No chance. Only a strong GM and a diminished Al can begin to right this ship.