Lease deal no surprise
By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Wednesday, November 18th, 2009 at 5:07 pm in Oakland Raiders.
More news and notes and observations following Wednesday’s practice:
– Considering the state of the economy and the Raiders current state of affairs, it’s no shocker that the club and the Joint Powers Authority reached agreement on a three-year extension.
It’s also an indication that for whatever rumors exist about the financial instability of the franchise under Al Davis, there isn’t a buyer lined up to purchase the club and move it to Los Angeles in the foreseeable future.
Also guessing the current rock-bottom status of the team in terms of butts in the seats somehow benefitted the Raiders in this deal.
Coach Tom Cable on the lease extension: “I think it’s important any time you know your hometown team is going to be there. As I mentioned when I got this job, we need to get this team going to give something back to Oakland so they have something to be excited about, for people to come to the games and buy the tickets and do all those things that you want as an organization. So I think it’s very important.”
Unless the Gradkowski news prompts a flood of ticket requests, blackout No. 5 should be announced Thursday.
– Read Cable’s words closely and while he won’t come out and say it, is there any doubt that all the talk of JaMarcus Russell’s poor work ethic is far more accurate than his passes on a given Sunday?
Cable’s been hinting at it all year and has never come out and say it. Given the way he’s talked up the dedication of Bruce Gradkowski and Charlie Frye, he never had to. His message is clear enough without taking on Russell directly in the media.
Davis also thinks a crisis point has been reached, otherwise he would have never either reccommended it or gone along with it. It also gives him a chance at a future press conference to say how Cable erred when he benched Russell.
– Insteresting to see how Russell handles the situation. Ideally, he’ll stand tall, take some responsibility and vow to get better. If he gets good advice, he’ll do exactly that.
– Chaz Schilens will start at wide receiver in place of Louis Murphy, and not Darrius Heyward-Bey. The rationale is is Murphy and Schilens play the same position, although passing game coordinator Ted Tollner said the positions are essentially interchangable.
Russell has never had any sort of chemistry with Heyward-Bey, at least not during training camp or any regular-season games. He and Murphy seemed to have something going early, but in the last few weeks Russell couldn’t develop any timing with either man.
– Last week, cornerback Chris Johnson told media members not to forget that if the Raiders went unbeaten in the second half, they would finish 10-6. His sights were still set high on Wednesday when discussing what the Raiders must do on defense in light of the struggles of the offense.
“The defense is fine,’’ Johnson said. “What we have to do is with the turnovers we get, we’ve got to make sure we try to get in the end zone. Or not let the offense in the end zone and we win 3-0. that’s our mentality now.
“If not score, then set up a score. If we do that the rest of the seven games, I think we’ll be all right.’’
– Heyward-Bey has no plans on going Ochocinco on the Raiders in terms of being a flamboyant personality, but conceded the Bengals wide receiver has at least one fan who is also a Raiders fan.
“ It works for him. I know my mom likes it,” Heyward-Bey said. “So, whatever works for him, that’s good, because whatever you got to do on and off the field to make your play good, that’s what you got to do.”
– Still no sign of LB Ricky Brown or WR/KR Nick Miller, who didn’t practice. Nor did free safety Hiram Eugene, who had a shoulder injury.
The good news is veteran defensive end Greg Ellis was limited and could possibly play against Cincinnati, Cable said. Also, Michael Huff’s ankle which necessitated an MRI, is apparently fine. He made it through the entire practice.
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November 18th, 2009 at 5:12 pm
Keep it comin Jerry!! Sweet.
November 18th, 2009 at 5:13 pm
Put the Cable/Russell criticism into perspective.
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November 18th, 2009 at 5:17 pm
Al Davis is settin up Cable so all you gullible fools will take your eyes off Davis.
November 18th, 2009 at 5:19 pm
5 Head Coaches in 5 years, but the problem is THIS particular coach?
November 18th, 2009 at 5:23 pm
– Chaz Schilens will start at wide receiver in place of Louis Murphy, and not Darrius Heyward-Bey. The rationale is is Murphy and Schilens play the same position, although passing game coordinator Ted Tollner said the positions are essentially interchangable.
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Same old B.S
November 18th, 2009 at 5:25 pm
– Chaz Schilens will start at wide receiver in place of Louis Murphy, and not Darrius Heyward-Bey. The rationale is is Murphy and Schilens play the same position, although passing game coordinator Ted Tollner said the positions are essentially interchangable.
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This franchise is so broken that if it were a car…the mechanic would just say scrap it.
Murphy has so outperformed the 40 yard sprinter that its is a disgrace to competition that the 40x kid plays over the guy who at least catches a ball or two.
Embarrassing.
November 18th, 2009 at 5:26 pm
KoolKell Says:
November 18th, 2009 at 5:19 pm
5 Head Coaches in 5 years, but the problem is THIS particular coach?
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Cable is awful.
But Davis is the kingpin to this b.s.
He is the one making all the decisions and meddling in game planning
November 18th, 2009 at 5:27 pm
the problem is any good coach was fired because he didnt do what davis wanted and the people that do what davis wants are bad coaches
November 18th, 2009 at 5:29 pm
The 80yr old GM produces this:
09′ 2-7
08′ 5-11
07′ 4-12
06′ 2-14
05′ 4-14
04′ 5-11
03′ 4-14
If he had any class at all, he be spending full-time setting up a professional, sharp, transition team.
November 18th, 2009 at 5:31 pm
this is the problem
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qUCvLA-DnjM
November 18th, 2009 at 5:31 pm
It’s unbelievable that there are still 30k or so fans that will actually fork over about a hundred bucks a piece on Sunday to watch a team whose owner is trying to lose!
November 18th, 2009 at 5:32 pm
Looks like da Raiders are hanging around 4 a little while =)
November 18th, 2009 at 5:33 pm
How dumb are Raider fans who still go to games? These guys give good money to an owner who’s trying to lose! Why don’t they give me the money? If they’re going to waste it anyway.
November 18th, 2009 at 5:33 pm
BS Jerry….there are plenty of buyers, and buyers that would stay put in Oakland. Fact is the team is not for sale, period. end of subject
so unless they actually hire a gm, and get a real coach…i am not renewing my tickets next year. They make me sick to my stomach to watch.
November 18th, 2009 at 5:34 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
November 18th, 2009 at 5:31 pm
It’s unbelievable that there are still 30k or so fans that will actually fork over about a hundred bucks a piece on Sunday to watch a team whose owner is trying to lose!
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Some of that is season tix holders. Then thre are some Bengals fans who I am sure are in the area…a 1000 or so.
Then you just have people who enjoy watching football on Sunday.
Davis will never change because he is under no financial pressure and the league willingly subsidises this madness.
Pay to see Gradkowski/Frye and Cable…LOL
November 18th, 2009 at 5:35 pm
Yeah, I’m thinking Jerry is a John Herrera tool.
November 18th, 2009 at 5:35 pm
Russell doesn’t want to be here any more than Garcia did. Russell got what he wanted. Tell me this is the same Russell you’re seeing today:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JuHXGVudSGw
November 18th, 2009 at 5:37 pm
Oh ,they’re season ticket holders, ok. I guess that makes it ok, then. I mean, they’ve actually ordered a SEASON’S WORTH of tickets to see a team whose owner is sabotaging them, and they don’t even try to sell off the tickets. Twenty times as pathetic.
November 18th, 2009 at 5:39 pm
“Davis will never change because he is under no financial pressure and the league willingly subsidises this madness.”
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SnB, I don’t know where you’re getting your information, but I absolutely disagree.
How do you calculate Davis’ financial pressures?
How do you figure the League will subsidize the Raiders floundering in the 5 largest Media Market in the US?
November 18th, 2009 at 5:39 pm
SnB, Davis will never change? So, you’re saying Davis will continue to try to lose? I think he will change when he gets what he wants, whatever that is. I’m guessing out of Oakland.
November 18th, 2009 at 5:40 pm
mr u kind of lost me there if people dont want to buy the tickets and you already said they shouldnt then how can the season ticket holders sell them
November 18th, 2009 at 5:43 pm
SNB
If Davis is under no financial pressure, why did he sell off to investors on 06′?
November 18th, 2009 at 5:47 pm
The object of the rest of this season is to win enough games to get a draft pick out of the top 10. Al can’t afford it and we don’t know how to use it or trade it.
November 18th, 2009 at 5:47 pm
About 2/3 of the NFL’s money comes from the TV deal. The players get about 2/3 of team revenue. So, more or less, the TV contract goes to pay the players…Davis is under financial trouble, he would have never sold a share of the team if he wasn’t.
November 18th, 2009 at 5:48 pm
Oakland Athletics – 4 rookie starting pitchers and one sophomore (who was replaced by another rookie after injury) – plus one American Rookie of the Year closer.
(lowest attendance in the majors even though they’re fun to watch)
Warriors – youngest team in the NBA. Some intransigent egos, but watchable. (Butts in seats)
Oaktown Raiders – very young offensive skill position players. Little fun to watch. Mostly because JRuss has not shown enthusiasm to the fan base. If he showed anything of passion people would rally to his defense despite the growing pains. (No butts in seats)
November 18th, 2009 at 5:48 pm
Where does the myth come from that Davis, is in no need for fan money?
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November 18th, 2009 at 5:49 pm
SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
November 18th, 2009 at 5:25 pm
– Chaz Schilens will start at wide receiver in place of Louis Murphy, and not Darrius Heyward-Bey. The rationale is is Murphy and Schilens play the same position, although passing game coordinator Ted Tollner said the positions are essentially interchangable.
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This franchise is so broken that if it were a car…the mechanic would just say scrap it.
Murphy has so outperformed the 40 yard sprinter that its is a disgrace to competition that the 40x kid plays over the guy who at least catches a ball or two.
Embarrassing.
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This was probably part of the deal with Davis bench jamarcuss but leave in bey.
the dillusional old man probably thinks grad and bey will click and run the table.
if jamarcuss deserves to be benched ( witch he does ) bet should be sitting right next to him!!!!!!!!!!!
November 18th, 2009 at 5:50 pm
Cleveland v Detroit this weekend. Oaktown v Cleveland later on. For all the marbles!
November 18th, 2009 at 5:51 pm
Al Davis owners of one of the worst teams in Sport, is immune to market pressures, really?
I don’t think so.
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November 18th, 2009 at 5:53 pm
KoolKell,
trotting out tired statistics brings nothing to anyone. In the 1850’s the Brits ruled the world. In the 1300’s the Mongols ruled most of Eurasia. In the 1000’s the Mayans were of the largest civilizations. What of it? This too shall pass.
November 18th, 2009 at 5:55 pm
Said it before, will say it again, it’s a 24 game preseason.
November 18th, 2009 at 5:55 pm
New starting QB brings nothing. Shrug. Trot any hasn’t-been and call it a change. Cable is an idiot.
November 18th, 2009 at 5:56 pm
KoolKell Says:
everyday, @ all the time pm
babble babble babble
Repost of some old meaningless stat or quote
babble babble babble
I hate Al Davis.
November 18th, 2009 at 5:57 pm
M Lonetree Says:
November 18th, 2009 at 5:53 pm
KoolKell,
trotting out tired statistics brings nothing to anyone.
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Your predictions are more valuable? I don’t think so.
November 18th, 2009 at 6:03 pm
RMR.
That is the same Russell we have here. Deep ball to a WR in double coverage, but the WR actually MAKES A PLAY ON THE BALL, lol!
November 18th, 2009 at 6:05 pm
DHB still being in the starting lineup tells us all we need to know about Cable.
Anyone telling me that Davis would rather be right about DHB, but wrong about Russell and DMAC needs to pass what the bong!
November 18th, 2009 at 6:06 pm
The 80yr old GM produces this:
09′ 2-7
08′ 5-11
07′ 4-12
06′ 2-14
05′ 4-14
04′ 5-11
03′ 4-14
Over 5 different Head Coaches and 6 different QB’s.
November 18th, 2009 at 6:07 pm
Bey is a bust.
Bust by the bay.
November 18th, 2009 at 6:08 pm
#25 – Lonetree
Great point. I completely agree. With Russell, it is in a lot of ways like watching Art Shell on the sidelines compared to Gruden. Even Jrock isnt the ra ra sort of guy, at least show something for the Nation to rally around.
What sucks is as a die hard fan…. show us heart as you already have ours.
November 18th, 2009 at 6:13 pm
Top 5 rushing team to sniffing at 20.
Real good STs to damn near awful.
Developing QB and RBs to chaos in the backfield.
From x amount of blowouts to 3x the blowouts.
What else do you need to show you the Cable effect? Can any of you really stand behind this coach?
From the start I did not like the firing of Kiffin and the hiring of Cable. Even his stupid comments about not practicing ’till they get it right – red flags. But I held out hope. I thought the talent on this team was enough to be good and maybe even make him look better than what I assumed he was. Turns out I was wrong. He is doing more damage to this team than the talent and youth can compensate for.
November 18th, 2009 at 6:14 pm
This change is more about a man trying to secure a job for next year than it is about trying to better the team for the long term.
As bad as Russell has been, alot of it falls on the shoulders of the play caller.
November 18th, 2009 at 6:15 pm
The 80yr old GM produces this:
09′ 2-7
08′ 5-11
07′ 4-12
06′ 2-14
05′ 4-14
04′ 5-11
03′ 4-14
With 5 different Head Coaches and 6 different QB’s.
And all you can blame is Cable?
November 18th, 2009 at 6:16 pm
Terrapin,
The 80yr old GM produces this:
09′ 2-7
08′ 5-11
07′ 4-12
06′ 2-14
05′ 4-14
04′ 5-11
03′ 4-14
With 5 different Head Coaches and 6 different QB’s.
And all you can blame is the latest coach, Cable?
November 18th, 2009 at 6:17 pm
The only thing I can think of thats worse than Cable right now is Todd Haley …boy is he bad!
November 18th, 2009 at 6:17 pm
I think people are missing out on the point of starting Bruce.
We all know he is a journeyman, twice cut, destined to be a career backup QB talent. So it’s not about whether he is the next Jim Plunkett or Rich Gannon.
Russell has been so incredibly awful at times, comical really, that it is extremely difficult to judge the surrounding players. By putting in a somewhat stable, less talented, game manager, we can judge what we have as a team, and what we need to improve on for 2010.
QB is the only position on the field that continually gets severely outplayed week in and week out. Even the crappy WR’s have played to a close draw in a few games (Philly, week 2).
Cable outcoached Todd Haley this past week, mostly because Haley is a moron and has zero clue, but nevertheless. Play-calling was easily good enough to win.
If you switch the QB’s in both San Diego games the Raiders would win in blowouts.
Russell is the short-term problem. Obviously Al and our lack of leadership and coaching quality is the long-term problem. Until Al is gone, all we can hope for is some band-aids and a few breaks, and we can make a run at the division.
A great first step for the Raiders front office, would be to rid itself of lazy, non-driven, pieces of crap like Jamarcus Russell.
November 18th, 2009 at 6:18 pm
Heyward-Bey ahead of Louis Murphy on the depth chart? Maybe if the Raiders were playing volleyball, otherwise it’s a complete joke. Until the best 11 players are on the field, regardless of any Al Davis “scholarship” status, this team will continue to underperform.
DHB may turn out to be a solid receiver down the road, but he has NO business starting on any team, particularly one that desperately needs offensive production at any/all skill positions.
November 18th, 2009 at 6:18 pm
Terrapin,
The 80yr old GM produces this:
09′ 2-7
08′ 5-11
07′ 4-12
06′ 2-14
05′ 4-14
04′ 5-11
03′ 4-14
With 5 different Head Coaches and 6 different QB’s.
And all you can blame is the latest coach, Cable?
Did you happen to notice the Raiders problems went on waaaay before we ever heard of Russell or Cable?
November 18th, 2009 at 6:21 pm
16yearold,
Do you go to games? If so, why? Why do you give your hard earned money to an owner who’s trying to lose? And don’t tell me you’re 16. Even the nerdiest 16 year old has too much of a life to be in here.
November 18th, 2009 at 6:22 pm
That 80yr old man aint’ goin’ no where Kell. So all you can do is hope he finds a diamond in the ruff as HC (like Gruden, Madden, Kiffin, Peyton). All you can do is hope. I’m sure he already sees the turd that Cable is.
November 18th, 2009 at 6:22 pm
But, it’s okay. Until there’s enough Al Davis shills to fill up the stadium, none of their bullshyt spin will matter.
November 18th, 2009 at 6:24 pm
Terrapin Says:
November 18th, 2009 at 6:22 pm
That 80yr old man aint’ goin’ no where Kell. So all you can do is hope he finds a diamond in the ruff as HC
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A fools errand.
November 18th, 2009 at 6:27 pm
Terrapin, what do you mean hope? This is an owner who’s trying to lose. If Al Davis finds a “diamond in the rough”, as you put it, he’ll toss him in the trash. He would only find such a thing by accident, because he’s actively looking for the opposite.
November 18th, 2009 at 6:29 pm
Two worst passing offenses, Browns and Raiders. Two best, Pats and Colts.
The top rushing teams in the league are a bunch of medioce teams: Jets, Panthers, Titans, Jaguars, Dolphins.
It is all about QB play in the NFL right now.
November 18th, 2009 at 6:30 pm
Totally disagree Vegas!
Game one against SD, McFadden fumble at the 50 killed us!
Murphy running ANOTHER bad route on that Jammer INT was a KILLER!
Sproles getting big returns KILLED us.
We win that game if we don’t give up 3rd and 17 TWICE in the 4th qtr!
It may all be a blur to me now, but I don’t even really remember the 2nd Charger game, lol!
I don’t think I could tell you ONE play from the last SD game, and I’m really trying to remember, lol!
November 18th, 2009 at 6:32 pm
VegasRaider, how much money do you spend on the Raiders per year? How much money do you give to an owner who’s trying to lose?
November 18th, 2009 at 6:32 pm
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November 18th, 2009 at 6:33 pm
Maybe it’s me, but how can a team that has scored 87 points in 9 games expect a different outcome?
November 18th, 2009 at 6:37 pm
The 80yr old GM produces this:
09′ 2-7
08′ 5-11
07′ 4-12
06′ 2-14
05′ 4-14
04′ 5-11
03′ 4-14
With 5 different Head Coaches and 6 different QB’s.
As if the problems started with Cable, sure.
November 18th, 2009 at 6:38 pm
KoolKell,
When I say DAvis isn’t under financial pressure…I say this…
Davis has the team paid for. No debt service that would affect cash flow
DAvis has no new stadium to pay for
Now, he clearly is having some financial difficulty. BUt its not enough to change the way he’s doing things.
Not enough. He saves his money by hiring puppet coaches and cheap assistants…and having a long loyal group of sychophants willing to just cash a check.
Plus, Davis gets a share of the attendance from around the league. So his piddly 30K is nothing…but he gets a share of a league this doing fairly well.
Cash flow…fellas…cash flow
November 18th, 2009 at 6:40 pm
Keyword: Tentative;
the agreement between Gottschalks and some China/Asian hotel comapany from the Carribean was tentative as well this time last year.
November 18th, 2009 at 6:40 pm
JHill,
First of all, I’m ready for the beers and kush sit-down. I don’t absolve Cable of all the blame. His play-calling has been bad at times (the Broncos game was terrible) and his team is rarely ready to execute whatever gameplan he has designed. Jim Fassell in 2010!!
But, as you said a few posts ago, the CEO doesn’t direct day-to-day operations. At some point, if your going to be good at your job, you have to want to be good at your job. Jamarcus KNEW he had entitlements with the organization being the #1 pick, and he completely milked it for all things selfishly. He let someone outwork him to take his job, and he is in a leadership position!!!! Completely unacceptable. We will see if he even cares about keeping his job, and we all know he won’t work as hard as a backup as he did as a starter. I expect him to sulk his way into third-string by the end of the year.
And I had such high hopes for him at the beginning of the year. Has anyone ever taken such a humongous step backwards?
November 18th, 2009 at 6:41 pm
SnB, speaking of cash flow, how much money do you spend on the Raiders? How much money do you spend on an owner who’s clearly trying to lose?
November 18th, 2009 at 6:41 pm
Vegas,
DHB and Murphy starting anywhere else in the league?
Cornell Green? Cooper Carlisle? How about Todd Watkins?
Coach Cable on anyone’s short list for O.C…let alone head coach.
JHill is not excusing Russell’s slothfullness….he’s pointing to the folks that think there is hope in tomoato cans like Gradkowski…that this is not JUST about the QB.
DHB starting over Murphy….LOL
Javon Walker on the bench and not even activated…
LOL
They got themselves an agenda…and like MR says…it doesn’t involve winning…at least not the #1 priority
November 18th, 2009 at 6:42 pm
MR,
I do my part for someone in another state. No regrets.
November 18th, 2009 at 6:42 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
November 18th, 2009 at 6:41 pm
SnB, speaking of cash flow, how much money do you spend on the Raiders? How much money do you spend on an owner who’s clearly trying to lose?
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Regrettfully,
I’ve spent money on a couple of road games a year..including this year…
Plus I purchased a jersey and occassionally listen to the advertisements on the local radio show.
November 18th, 2009 at 6:44 pm
mr i dont go to the games and i am 16 im just either stuck in the hospital or stuck in the house so i come on here when i get bored
November 18th, 2009 at 6:44 pm
Vegas,
Russell sits while DHB keeps playing….
What if DHB catches that 60 yd bomb for a TD?
Is Russell starting this week?
Do we win the game?
B.S
November 18th, 2009 at 6:44 pm
VegasRaider, does a gambling man like yourself feel it’s wise to spend money on an NFL team that is blatantly trying to lose? No regrets? You might as well bet on the team, too. I remember when you said you don’t bet on the Raiders because you only pick winners.
November 18th, 2009 at 6:45 pm
16 year old, you’re stuck in the hospital? Mental hospital? Just what do they give a 35 year old Raider fan who pretends to be 16 on the internet, anyway? Whatever it is, they’d better double up.
November 18th, 2009 at 6:46 pm
SnB, why not just give me the money, instead of blowing it?
November 18th, 2009 at 6:47 pm
SnB,
I’ll give that DHB, Murphy, Green and Carlisle (debatable) would not be starting elsewhere. But so what, that is only four positions. None of the Steelers or Patriots DB’s would start for us. Mario would start at LT on those teams as well.
I have no hope for Bruce, other than that he will make it a lot easier for everyone to realize that Jamarcus is a complete piece of crap and hopefully the organization will move on sooner than later.
November 18th, 2009 at 6:49 pm
you have to want to be good at your job. Jamarcus KNEW he had entitlements with the organization being the #1 pick, and he completely milked it for all things selfishly. He let someone outwork him to take his job, and he is in a leadership position!!!! Completely unacceptable.
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Not quite sure where this is coming from, Vegas. I mentioned earlier the thing Jerry was talking about this summer. He talked about how Hackett had the 3 QBs on the side just going over plays and checks out of those plays. Jerry pointed out how good Russell was at that.
If you ask me, it’s kinda simple. Russell has ZERO trust in DHB and borderline trust in Murphy. Cable says guys are open before he mentions Russell inaccuracy. We all know that Cable is simply saying that Russell is not throwing the ball to DHB.
Just looked the SD game, and the first INT was to Miller, who we ALL know was HELD. Or was it to Murphy who was falling down right behind the play.
Just kinda illustrates ANOTHER rookie mistake in that his man Cromartie should have never been there. That’s the timing of the WRs we are talking about. How do you just give them the benefit of the doubt that they are in the right place? We all know that pass was to Miller, and if he had not been held, would have been there as it ususally is to the TEs. WTF was Murphy doing bringing his man into the play?
And wasn’t this the same game where Murphy took JLH out when they were lined up next to each other?
November 18th, 2009 at 6:50 pm
But Bruce failed to make the 3rd string QB in Cleveland look like a piece of$%@%
Good luck to him…that drop by DHB at the end of the K.C game hurt him just as much as Russell…
As for Carlisle…he tested free agency and had no takers…so he came back….not a starter
STeelers and Pats DBs don’t affect the defense as much as a bad receiver that drops 60+% of the balls does for an offense.
Plus those teams have stout front 7s and don’t need super hero CBs to play the scheme
November 18th, 2009 at 6:50 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
November 18th, 2009 at 6:44 pm
VegasRaider, does a gambling man like yourself feel it’s wise to spend money on an NFL team that is blatantly trying to lose? No regrets? You might as well bet on the team, too. I remember when you said you don’t bet on the Raiders because you only pick winners.
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Raiders are 4-5 against the spread, which would be better than my picks this year, lol.
I’m thinking of riding the Bruce Gradowski train this weekend. Warren Buffet says to be greedy when others are fearful.
November 18th, 2009 at 6:51 pm
16,
I thought you’ve posted that you were at the game blogging from there?
Hmmmm ….
November 18th, 2009 at 6:51 pm
Of course Russell’s milking it. If you got drafted by a team that was trying to lose, would you come in trying your hardest to win? Up against that? Russell’s doing the smart thing. He’s collecting his money. He’ll wind up elsewhere in the league and will be fine when he gets out of this prison.
November 18th, 2009 at 6:52 pm
1 time but somebody bought the ticket for me it was the eagles game
November 18th, 2009 at 6:55 pm
What kind of 16 year old tells people they’re 16? He’s obviously saying he’s 16 thinking he’ll get away with talking smack, figuring people will take it easy on a 16 year old. The hospital b.s. is part of it. He just talks sh’t and if anyone says anything back, hey, i’m 16 and in the hospital, what kind of evil person are you? He’s 35, and probably pisses away thousands of dollars a year on a team being ran by an owner trying to lose.
November 18th, 2009 at 6:56 pm
Just looked the SD game, and the first INT was to Miller, who we ALL know was HELD. Or was it to Murphy who was falling down right behind the play.
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Dude it was first and 10, in the middle of one the better opening drives of the season (sadly). There was four guys around the play, who cares if someone was held or guys were in the wrong place? Don’t you just throw it away and go to second down? This guy never even has the savy to throw the ball away.
Lots of blame to pass around for the whole organization, but when it comes to Sunday, in the middle of the game when everyone is competing, when whose drafted where and all that stuff is thrown out the window, he is killing his team. That’s my only point.
November 18th, 2009 at 6:56 pm
Ha ha…somebody bought the ticket for me. Listen to this guy. Poor kid. I feel so guilty now. NOT. 35 year old loser.
November 18th, 2009 at 7:00 pm
VegasRaider, what do you expect Russell to do, on a team being ran by an owner trying to lose? You don’t think Russell knows what’s going on? Like he never talks to his agent? Russell would be a fool to do anything other than what he’s doing right now.
November 18th, 2009 at 7:00 pm
I’m sorry Vegas,
But I don’t understand how someone who actually was high enough on Russell to buy his jersey, and actually thought he finished strong last year, can already be at the conclusion that he ” is a complete piece of crap and hopefully the organization will move on sooner than later.”
I mean, how can you say that about a KID who has had a year under his belt? Are you really telling me that a HC who would have benched Russell the first day he missed the MANDATORY 6am meeting, or showed up 15lbs overweight wouldn’t make a difference in his development? A coach who would make sure that Mike Bush can carry the ball more than 5 times in a row before needing a breather? Especially since he’s been on the bench ALL GAME?
WTF is going on around that place?!??!
November 18th, 2009 at 7:01 pm
Let me tell yall something. CJ’s comments above says it all. They now have ZERO confidence in the offense scoring or doing anything. ZERO!! This team probably is losing all faith in Cable. It wouldn’t doubt it for a minute with these dumb moves he’s pulling.
Chaz Schilens out all season – the guy Cable and all highlighted as being a big loss because they knew how much JR depended on him vs the other WRs. 1st game Chaz gets back Cable benches JR. Now tell me how is that making progress? How is that making sure your QB develops? As soon as the QBs go-to guy gets back you put the QB on the bench him so we can start from scratch all over again.
November 18th, 2009 at 7:01 pm
I bet Jerry had a fun day today. My cousin was a beat writer for awhile with the Trib, and losing can make the job suck for writers too. At least there was excitement, and Ochocinco, and Gradowski to interview today.
When should we expect to hear from Jamarcus? Now that he is not obligated to talk to the press as a starting QB, will he even say anything?
November 18th, 2009 at 7:02 pm
I still got Russell’s back.
He’s going to be a good QB at some point. I just hope its with Oakland.
Davis’s way has helped stunt some serious talent.
November 18th, 2009 at 7:03 pm
# jhill Says:
November 18th, 2009 at 7:00 pm
WTF is going on around that place?!??!
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Al’s trying to lose.
November 18th, 2009 at 7:05 pm
Vegas – You are absolutely wrong about that play. Miller had his guy beat and would’ve been in perfect position for a ball that was perfectly thrown for him to be there.
If any player is held it disrupts everything! That’s the bottom line. If YOU are on the field and YOUR QB throws the ball then I hold you …then how the hell does that not disrupt the entire play?
After that point it doesn’t matter where the ball ends up – anybody can intercept it b/c you are nowhere where you should be.
Miller would’ve been smack dab in the path of that ball and no defender would have intercepted it if he was not held.
November 18th, 2009 at 7:05 pm
MR,
If you think Russell’s agent is advising to do exactly what Jamarcus is doing, you are crazy. What do you think Jamarcus’ next contract might like look? It might be paid in loony’s.
His agent ain’t his stock-broker. His star client is going straight in the toilet.
November 18th, 2009 at 7:06 pm
Dude it was first and 10, in the middle of one the better opening drives of the season (sadly). There was four guys around the play, who cares if someone was held or guys were in the wrong place? Don’t you just throw it away and go to second down? This guy never even has the savy to throw the ball away.
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Cmon bruh, it was a timing pass. Russell is throwing the ball to Miller on a timing pass. He didn’t know Miller was going to be held, and be late to the spot. He didn’t know Murphy was going to make the wrong read and bring his guys into the play. SD was in a zone, and yeah with Miller and Murphy ENDING UP in the same area, there were multiple defenders there.
But listening to Cable, you are right. It was the wrong read, lol He should’ve been going to DHB.
Here, I have a better one for you. Fargas had just ripped off a nice 6 yard gain for that first down. Uh, why are we not running the ball on 1st and 10 after 3 NICE runs that were AVERAGING 5 yds a pop?
November 18th, 2009 at 7:07 pm
I see I am in the minority here. That makes me feel a lot more confident that Gradowski will look sharp this weekend.
Can’t wait for the Jamarcus’s excuses after worthless journeyman Bruce Gradowski looks like a serious upgrade!!!
November 18th, 2009 at 7:09 pm
Thats what a timing offense does in this league. You throw the ball to a spot that your man is suppose to be. Russell threw to the spot, Miller got held so he couldn’t get there. INT. Case closed.
November 18th, 2009 at 7:12 pm
Terrapin, the way I see it is JR is too big for his britches. He has not extended himself to compete in this league. He needs to know that respect is earned, not given for being a no. 1 pick. You can’t blame it on Chaz not being there, this is a football team. The general leads by example, and this example is overweight, lazy, non-assertive and completely unable to lead an NFL team anywhere. Period! This is his beat-down and he should take it as lesson learned. I think he thinks he’s too good for this. When after scoring 87 points in 9 games, half scored by defence and special teams, and he starts to put it into perspective, he needs to have the balls to man up and and apply his skills to the 52 other players on this team. Until that day, we should use Bruce, and any other QB that wants to put in the time and help this team.
November 18th, 2009 at 7:13 pm
“The defense is fine,’’ Johnson said. “What we have to do is with the turnovers we get, we’ve got to make sure we try to get in the end zone. Or not let the offense in the end zone and we win 3-0. that’s our mentality now.
“If not score, then set up a score. If we do that the rest of the seven games, I think we’ll be all right.’’
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LMFAO!
So Johnson, speaking for the defense, thinks that EVEN with the QB swith, they need to try and win 3-0?
That is HILARIOUS!
November 18th, 2009 at 7:13 pm
JHill,
Very true about running the ball on that play. But an NFL QB has to make plays when everything else doesn’t go perfectly, and has to have the savy to ANTICIPATE when things might go wrong and leave to see another play. It would have been nice to run it on 2nd and 10, but Jamarcus didn’t afford us that opportunity.
I am shocked that it has turned this bad for me on him too. I wore his jersey 4 days ago, somewhat begrudginly, but I did and tried to support him. My wife bought it for me for my B-day, so I feel obligated to wear it. But to steal an old-line, “he is dead to me”.
November 18th, 2009 at 7:13 pm
SnB
Just because Davis gipped into the team years ago, does not mean he has no debt service. He also has expenses. And his team LOST money last year. And it’s the lowest valued team in the League.
So far as gate receipts, it’s my understanding he shares in games the Raiders play. Not in every NFL game. Sure they share TV revenue, but what is that revenue worth when the 5th largest market in the US is without football?
No, I do not concede that he’s invulnerable.
November 18th, 2009 at 7:16 pm
I would imagine if Tom Cable had his druthers, the Raiders would be a run-heavy team. As a Offensive line coach. But he’s got Davis’s DHP fetish to deal with, and keeping his job.
November 18th, 2009 at 7:17 pm
Oaklands wides have been beyond f’ing horrible the last 2 years. BEYOND.
People calling for Javon frikkin Walker to say the day? Thats how bad it is.
Jerry’s the only professional writer (sorry raider nation station) whose even mentioned SanJay Lal’s role in this debacle but it was DAVIS who drafted 2 WR’s everyone KNEW were developemental projects.
What does he do? Pairs them with Lal who has ZERO head coaching experience and played wide what? In high school?!
Not only that, insists they play every down with a struggling inexperienced QB.
Top that with a 2nd year of no FB and DMC who seems to be riding out his contract incurring as little contact as possible so he can go elsewhere, injuries and crappy linemen and you’ve got a stalled running game.
Pair that mess with an inexperienced head coach and a limited play book and no woder we fu-king suck!!!
I’ve always been a fan and supporter of Mr. Davis and appreciate all he’s done IN THE PAST for our beloved Raiders, but his actions, moves and antics are showing his age.
Get some O line talent, get a MLB and give Russell some targets!!!
November 18th, 2009 at 7:19 pm
Vegas, Gradkowski is a serious upgrade. He runs for first downs.
November 18th, 2009 at 7:19 pm
Can’t wait for the Jamarcus’s excuses after worthless journeyman Bruce Gradowski looks like a serious upgrade!!!
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We already saw a preview of Gradkowski, and I will say that his scrambling ability alone is something that he brings new to the table. If Russell was 20lbs lighter, he might be just a swift.
This isn’t really about Russell, IMO, because I said he should have been benched long ago.
To me, this is about Russell being benched and not DHB. This is about Russell being benched while Holland and JLH keep their jobs. How is Warren still starting over Bryant? Why is there NO ONE on the roster to push Stan Routt? Why do we keep seeing Hiram Eugene get reps in place of Huff? In front of Mitchell? Why didn’t Bush get 20 carries last week? Why is Bush not in good enough shape to carry the ball more than 5 times, lol!
November 18th, 2009 at 7:19 pm
Ahright …I have to get other things accomplished today.
806- Just further making a point of Cable’s idiocy. Trust me. I am fully aware that this is a team sport. Albeit some players are more important than others.
Cable shoulders a lot of the blame around here. He quite frankly doesn’t play to his team’s strength. That’s probably the worst thing a coach can do. Outside to benching players for nothing.
How much more evidence do you people need to see that we are going in the wrong direction? More blowouts?
The only way Grads looks better than JR is if the players actually develop some hands for this game. But then he’ll only look good to you fools – look closely and you’ll see he’s nothin’ but a glorified backup. I personally would much rather see Frye in there. And JR ahead of both – he’s the best out of the lot imho ..but he needs better coaching and dedication. Period!
November 18th, 2009 at 7:21 pm
Nnamdi21, I’m In!!!!!
November 18th, 2009 at 7:24 pm
VegasRaider, I didn’t say that Russell’s agent is advising him to do what he’s doing, just that he knows Al Davis is trying to lose. BTW, everyone in the league knows this isn’t Russell’s fault. Only dumb Raider fans think so. Russell is going to go elsewhere and be fine.
November 18th, 2009 at 7:24 pm
But an NFL QB has to make plays when everything else doesn’t go perfectly, and has to have the savy to ANTICIPATE when things might go wrong and leave to see another play. It would have been nice to run it on 2nd and 10, but Jamarcus didn’t afford us that opportunity.
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We will just have to disagree on that one play, Vegas. I just don’t see how Russell could have anticipated a hold on Miller.
Same with the pick in the Denver game. I just don’t see how Russell could have anticipated DHB falling down on one play, and him getting bumped off his route on the next play. Especially when the coach is HAMMERING down his throat that he MUST throw the ball the that guy. He literally got benched for not throwing the ball to him.
November 18th, 2009 at 7:25 pm
JHill,
You know I agree with most all that, but I know how bad leadership can ruin even the good things around you.
As far as DHB starting……..didn’t you see his block on that Bush run,LOL??
November 18th, 2009 at 7:27 pm
Terrapin, if Bruce brings JR’s head back into the game, starts using his instincts, making plays out of broken ones, I think we are saying the same thing. He is simply not getting it done, I understand our rookie thing, but he’s not thinking the whole field, he’s using tunnel vision and a good QB is not focused on that.
November 18th, 2009 at 7:27 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
November 18th, 2009 at 7:24 pm
Russell is going to go elsewhere and be fine.
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Crazy-talk. He’s rich and football isn’t a priority. Unless he is playing for another contract, he will never care as much as he needs to, to be an NFL QB. Believe me.
November 18th, 2009 at 7:27 pm
Maybe the plan is to bottom out and get Russell to sign a nice long CHEAP extension?
You know, sorta like the stadium extention?
November 18th, 2009 at 7:32 pm
I agree with you about Russell not caring, VegasRaider. There’s no reason to, playing for this team. With an owner with one singular goal: Losing.
November 18th, 2009 at 7:33 pm
You know I agree with most all that, but I know how bad leadership can ruin even the good things around you.
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So the debate should really be about who has the leadership role (queue the Davis bashers).
IMO the bad leadership is coming from Cable. Let’s go back to BEFORE the season even started. Garcia came out and told you the plan was to put in ALL on Russell. Be damned if he was ready for it or not. Right there with Cable saying after the Denver game that he KNEW BETTER than to call 4 verticals but he wanted to be aggressive.
EXACT opposite of what Kiffin did, and I think THIS is where the story starts. Do the EXACT opposite of what Kiffin said. Kiffin KNEW Russell wasn’t ready for what Cable has him trying. He didn’t say F it, I’m going to be aggressive, he said, I’m going to RUN the ball, and trust my VETERAN defense. Cable? F the defense, they suck! We need to put up 30pts a game, lol!
November 18th, 2009 at 7:35 pm
My last point before I call it a night…(been fun)
To turn around this abysmal organization and win on the field, we will need a headstrong, ultra-commited and self-motivated QB to lead. That’s the only way it will happen, everything else is too screwed up for any type of consistant success. We saw it with Gannon. We went to the Super Bowl with freakin Bill Callahan dialing up 50 passes a game. Who would every think that would have worked, but it did.
I know some guys, who know some guys, who know Jamarcus. No matter what happens, he won’t view himself as a failure in football. He went to LSU, won the Sugar Bowl and made a bunch of money and played in the NFL. He’s cool with it. Makes me sick when I hear about it, so I take my frustrations out in here and on my bong and it makes me feel better. Thanks for engaging.
November 18th, 2009 at 7:39 pm
Night Vegas, Night Nation!
November 18th, 2009 at 7:42 pm
Vegas Raider Says:
November 18th, 2009 at 7:35 pm
My last point before I call it a night…(been fun)
To turn around this abysmal organization and win on the field, we will need a headstrong, ultra-commited and self-motivated QB to lead.
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Not true. We’ll need a ultra-committed, self motivated, General Manager, to put the pieces together.
November 18th, 2009 at 7:48 pm
No matter what happens, he won’t view himself as a failure in football.
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And it’s that non Andrew Walter quality that has me not cutting him, but just moving him to 3rd string.
I kinda like the fact that he holds his head up through all of this and still thinks he’s the man. Dellusional as it may seem, it just drived me BONKERS to see Walter just fuggin drop his head.
We all want to talk about his bad passes and horrible misses. Lets say we see 10 of those a game. But just like the SD game, Russell drops a dime to put us up with 2 minutes to go in the game. Not to mention the dime that Murphy dropped (bad call or not) right before half time.
The point is if there are any type of WRs on the field to make some plays out of just 2 or 3 of his passes each game, we are NOT having this conversation.
And I’m saying the same things IN ADVANCE of Gradkowski starting. Grads can have some bad throws and picks, and we should still be able to count on our WRs making some plays to get us in or close to the end zone. We shouldn’t have our defense thinking they have to score of hold the team to 3 pts or less to have a chance to win!
November 18th, 2009 at 7:53 pm
Russell was PISSED when he got taken out of the game. He’s PISSED that he is not the starter. The guy has been the #1 guy on his football team since forever going back to pop warner, and NOW all of a sudden he doesn’t care?
He doesn’t care what anyone says is about all I see. He believes in himself and CLEARLY see DHB as the problem, and not himself.
November 18th, 2009 at 8:00 pm
It’s only 8!
Wassup with all of this good night stuff?
November 18th, 2009 at 8:05 pm
Maybe he should have seen it coming. Maybe putting in the extra work would have paid off by now. Sure he’s pissed at DHB. Finally puts one on the money and it’s dropped. But again, it all goes back as to whether the man is hungry or not. Allways been great enough to dominate in HS and LSU, now he’s in the big show and can’t cut it. All revolves around a work ethic.
November 18th, 2009 at 8:15 pm
It’s ok, guys. VegasRaider, and other blind optimists, really think Al Davis is trying to win. Forgive our Davis worshiping friends. It’s not that they’re ignorant, it’s just that they know so much that isn’t so.
November 18th, 2009 at 8:16 pm
JHill, how do you know Russell is pissed?
November 18th, 2009 at 8:19 pm
I guess I don’t know, RMR!
But by everyone’s account, he was. What do you think Warren was doing talking to him the entire time right after he was benched?
And what, you don’t believe what Cable just said? Disappointed = pissed, right?
November 18th, 2009 at 8:23 pm
I don’t believe anything a Davis puppet like Cable says, EVER. So, you can’t cancel that out. I seriously doubt Russell is pissed about anything. Look at the effort this guy made in college compared to what he makes now. He does not want to be in Oakland.
November 18th, 2009 at 8:25 pm
Russell’s demands in ‘07 were a fools errand, JHill. He and his agent fully expected Davis to tell them to pound sand, so they could then reenter the draft. Worst case scenario, they get the ridiculous amount of money. Al took them up on the fools errand. He needs a high priced scapegoat.
November 18th, 2009 at 8:27 pm
islandraider Says:
November 18th, 2009 at 8:05 pm
Maybe he should have seen it coming. Maybe putting in the extra work would have paid off by now. Sure he’s pissed at DHB. Finally puts one on the money and it’s dropped. But again, it all goes back as to whether the man is hungry or not. Allways been great enough to dominate in HS and LSU, now he’s in the big show and can’t cut it. All revolves around a work ethic.
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Hungry? Ok, I get it, lol!
But seriously, I go back to your point about extra work. Forgive me for repeatedly going to the employee analogy, but I’m waiting on an answer as to WHO IS THE BOSS?
Extra Work? What does that mean? To me, it says the MANDATORY QB meetings start at 6 am. Maybe that’s too early for Cable and Hackett?
And the MANDATORY QB/WR sessions are from 4pm to 6pm.
6am – 6pm!
And WTF is the strength coach up to? Why isn’t #2 MANDATED to spend 8am to 10am EVERYDAY getting his ass where he needs to be.
If we are to leave it all up the players, the young ones at that, what’s the point of all these coaches on staff? WTF are they doing?
November 18th, 2009 at 8:30 pm
RMR,
I just don’t know how to respond to that. Russell didn’t want to be drafted #1 and get all that cash?
Really?
Russell’s agent wanted to reenter the draft so he could go what, #1 the following year? After sitting on his fat ass for a year, and coming in at what 320?
Yeah, I can see that.
November 18th, 2009 at 8:31 pm
RMR,
So what’s next now that Al signed the extension? I guess the moving to LA theory (which wasn’t a bad one) is out of the window.
Now that he will be in Oakland for 3 more years, what’s next?
November 18th, 2009 at 8:41 pm
[...] Any thoughts of the Raiders moving to Los Angeles next season have been dashed. [...]
November 18th, 2009 at 8:43 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
November 18th, 2009 at 8:25 pm
Russell’s demands in ‘07 were a fools errand, JHill. He and his agent fully expected Davis to tell them to pound sand, so they could then reenter the draft. Worst case scenario, they get the ridiculous amount of money. Al took them up on the fools errand. He needs a high priced scapegoat.
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You’re assuming an awful lot, with no evidence.
So far as Davis trying to lose, I think that’s a stretch too. He’s just incompetent.
November 18th, 2009 at 8:44 pm
I mean really ….
3 year extension signed, Gradkowski named the starter, Cable is still calling plays, and DHB is still a starter too.
Someone please tell me what the plan is for the next 3 years?
RMR?
Anyone?
November 18th, 2009 at 8:45 pm
Maybe the mandatory for Ja is that he simply does show up. But for what? I really wish I was there to see first hand what kind of energy this guy puts forth in practice. But by his performances on Sunday, I’d have to guess not enough of what it takes to be succesful. Oh, he can pass some of the blame, but he continually mis-fires. It appears a lot rests with him alone. Al was mad about M. Allen demanding more money. I wonder how he feels about what Ja and his agent squeezed out of the Raider coffers.
November 18th, 2009 at 8:46 pm
# jhill Says:
November 18th, 2009 at 8:31 pm
RMR,
So what’s next now that Al signed the extension? I guess the moving to LA theory (which wasn’t a bad one) is out of the window.
Now that he will be in Oakland for 3 more years, what’s next?
2010=4-12
2011=3-13
2012=2-14
2013=1-15
November 18th, 2009 at 8:47 pm
[...] Any thoughts of the Raiders moving to Los Angeles next season have been dashed. [...]
November 18th, 2009 at 8:56 pm
Ja
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LMFAO!
November 18th, 2009 at 8:57 pm
Where is priesttj this pig needs lipstick.
November 18th, 2009 at 8:58 pm
A lot of sequential stuff there, Trolls.
November 18th, 2009 at 9:01 pm
It appears a lot rests with him alone.
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That may be true, Island. So it would also be the same for Bush who can’t stay on the field more than 5 plays at a time, right?
Or DHB who CLEARLY isn’t ready to be on the field. Why isn’t he AT LEAST moved ONE slot down the depth chart?
JLH and Holland on PRs? When are they going to be replaced?
And I just can’t get past Frye NOT being ahead of Russell on the depth chart. It makes ZERO sense!
November 18th, 2009 at 9:04 pm
# jhill Says:
November 18th, 2009 at 8:58 pm
A lot of sequential stuff there, Trolls.
(we all know what those initials stand for) 
made me 
do it 
bhp
November 18th, 2009 at 9:05 pm
Three more years to beat this team in the ground. The the league will have to cut this team right out of the NFL because revenue sharing cost them too much. Then Al can sue the NFL for denying him his right to make a proffit with his professinal franchise. He will get billions. Als’ not so dumb after all.
After all, your really have to make an honest effort to be this bad.
November 18th, 2009 at 9:09 pm
Man, you guys have some helluva theories. All a plan that Al masterminds with billions waiting at the end for him?
LMFAO!
November 18th, 2009 at 9:09 pm
Jhill #134
The man got 61 milliom benJAmans to be the face of the franchise. Surely he knew what he was getting into.
November 18th, 2009 at 9:09 pm
What a disaster for us to pick in the top 3 and spend all that cash on a player full of potential only to watch him deteriorate in this mess.
November 18th, 2009 at 9:11 pm
dick jauron will be the HC in oakland next year… hope not
November 18th, 2009 at 9:19 pm
islandraider Says:
November 18th, 2009 at 9:09 pm
Jhill #134
The man got 61 milliom benJAmans to be the face of the franchise. Surely he knew what he was getting into.
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Not quite sure what you mean by “knew what he was getting into”.
Again, this is NOT about Russell. I AGREE with what you are saying.
I’m saying that someone needs to be held accountable for for going SO FAR backwards in such a short time. Al Davis was here at the end of last year when it “LOOKED” like we might actually have a prospect. A lot of folks wanted the Oline improved for the young guy. The Dline built up to keep the score low. I think Norco Bob was the ONLY one talking about getting rid of the QB, and he CONSTANTLY got bashed for it.
How Cable and Hackett are not catching the rath ALONG with Russell is AMAZING to me. A BRAND NEW TIMING offense with DHB and Murphy, two project WRs at best, is what you give a guy you describe to your fan base as the next Elway? Compare to Aikman and others?
What a MONUMENTAL disaster the PLAN for #2 was from the OUTSET. Garcia told you as much when he said they are putting it ALL on a guy who is NOT ready. That was BEFORE the season started.
November 18th, 2009 at 9:20 pm
# The Real MaddenRaider Says:
November 18th, 2009 at 7:24 pm
VegasRaider, I didn’t say that Russell’s agent is advising him to do what he’s doing, just that he knows Al Davis is trying to lose. BTW, everyone in the league knows this isn’t Russell’s fault. Only dumb Raider fans think so. Russell is going to go elsewhere and be fine.
JR at the best could be another daunte cullpepper!!! maybe. i dont buy it. The SEC is all about talent, they don’t seem to develop smart players. al davis probably loves the SEC.JR HAD TALENTED RECIEVERS in college who caught any balls that were around them. in the nfl talent is near equal so now russell has to be more accurate, In the SEC he relied on his receivers winning one on one.
November 18th, 2009 at 9:53 pm
SPEED KILLS
What a joke.
Just looking at some numbers since the return to Oakland.
Overall winning pct is .403.
Subtract the Gruden years ( including the superbowl year because that was basically still his team), where Gruden had a .613 winning pct.
That leaves Al with a .294 winning pct.
Take away the Gruden years because he had two slow, over the hill receivers and a weak armed QB. That’s not the Al Davis recipe.
The rest of the years were filled with strong armed QB’s throwing bombs to bums. Hostetler, George, Collins, Walter and now Russell. Each had above average velocity and not much else.
Next, consider that Al likes to work with the Defence and makes sure the D coordinators run his man-to-man style.
Since 1970, the Raiders have averaged 15.8 out of 30 in defensive rankings. That’s a little worse than average. During that time, the Steelers have finished 1st or 2nd ten times. So much for Al getting results on defence.
His philosophy on winning football is flawed. He is just too old and stubborn to realize it, or to change his mind.
November 18th, 2009 at 10:12 pm
SPEED KILLS
What a joke…
Al is 80 and is still hanging his hat on two receivers from the decades past that he drafted that were fast..Warren Wells/Cliff Branch. Ever since then what has drafting speed w/no reciver skills gotten him/us? DHB, Morris Bradshsaw, James Jett, Jerry Porter (the best of the group). The last time he took a solid college receiver with decent speed as a high pick? Tim Brown…and how did that work out? Even though he is a king knuckle head (which btw never stopped Al before) Crab looks a lot like Timmy (similar bodies, speed) slap an 81 on him and he could have been the second coming.
November 18th, 2009 at 10:14 pm
sorry added jp, meant to say james jett was the best of the group
November 18th, 2009 at 10:17 pm
check out http://www.profootballfocus.com
group of observers grading every player on every play of every game this year. will need to read a bit to figure out their groundrules, but all you need to know is that -2.0 is the worst score you can get, they even say it’s rare/difficult to score a perfect 2.0 and conversely a perfectly sucky -2.0 any given week…check out JaMeatyArms scores for games this year…ridiculous.
November 18th, 2009 at 10:22 pm
Hopfully this will make Russell get done what he needs to get done. IMO Russell’s biggest priblem is simple, it’s called immaturity. It has taken him way too lng to understand what it takes to be great in this league. He is without doubt the best QB on this team. But he isn’t the best leader nor winner.
The coaches are frustrated with the way he handles this team. They use his inaccuracies to make a point and he has been inaccurate. But mostly they want him to change his habits and sharpen his focus. Expecially on gameday. Most of his inaccuracy is due to a lack of confidence and comfort in his surroundings. But he has to also show from Monday to Saturday that he has done everything he can to get better. That can not continue to be questioned………….period
Russell must do everything he can to make thse kind of questions go away. The facility must become his haven and the film room his place of residence. If he doesn’t get those kinds of questions behind him Mr Davis will find another trigger man. The writing is on the wall.
This move has nothing to do with anything but Mr Davis and the HC trying everything they can to wake him and shake him up. They all love his talent and they want it on full display on Sunday’s. The want him to lead this franchise and they are desparate to get through to him. They know Grad isn’t the better player that is npot the point the point is to get a pro on the field to run the offense. Get the ball to the WR’s consistently as well as other playmakers and let them make plays. Something Russell refused to do.
The best thing Russell can do at this point is watch, learn, listen and duplicate. That will get him back on the field faster than anything because after all he is by far the most talented of the QB’s………..period
November 18th, 2009 at 10:25 pm
BTW 16, I have those tickets and I need a way to get them to you.
All Grad is going to do is do whatever coach wants him to. If they drop it so what he keeps his job, but he has to get the ball to them. So we’lll see…
November 18th, 2009 at 10:29 pm
Good call on Crabtree. I thought the same thing. He’s a thicker version of Brown. I was thinking Davis might see the resemblance before the draft. But I guess his mind was still stuck in the 60’s.
At least Jett was an undrafted free agent. Even though he was mediocre at best, I can’t knock him because he was a freebie. Unlike DHB.
I bet Davis told Cable that if he sat JaMarcus, then he had to keep starting DHB. One or the other.
November 18th, 2009 at 10:35 pm
Irie,
What about the stats of Pears, Henderson, Satele, Murphy, and others in those bad games by Russell, lol.
a -3.5 for Russell, but a -4.4 for Pears? LMFAO!
November 18th, 2009 at 10:36 pm
Jhill, I was upset at first about the benching but I’ve talked to several players and front office people lately. They are trying desparately t get to him so they don’t totally lose him. The crowd is viscious at these games against him. Guess wh’s the favorite player on any struggling team?, that’s right the backup QB. Grad will without fail flat out stink it up and guess who will be there anxious to get his job back and do whatever it takes to keep it?. guess right again.
They hope that this is scenario that plays out over the next 7 weeks and also they know that the team will see that they made a move that everyone said they wouldn’t make. They actually benched Al Davis’s favorite player. This scenario is the best thing for all concerned including Russell he gets to see how another QB would handle this situation he’s been put in. If Grad plays well and the team plays well it’s even better. He sees what HE should’ve done and understands what he needs to do.
November 18th, 2009 at 10:39 pm
vegas raider Says:
November 18th, 2009 at 6:29 pm
Two worst passing offenses, Browns and Raiders. Two best, Pats and Colts.
The top rushing teams in the league are a bunch of medioce teams: Jets, Panthers, Titans, Jaguars, Dolphins.
It is all about QB play in the NFL right now.
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Amen.
I’ve watched a ton of games this year and now more than ever it’s all about the passing game. Precise offenses with great QBs are atop their divisions. I broke it down the other day that of the 9 teams leading or tied for their division leads there are 3 first-ballot Hall of Famers (Manning, Brady, Favre); 2 who I’d say are likely to get in (Warner, Brees); and 3 prolific passers with multiple Pro Bowl caliber seasons on their resume (Palmer, Rivers and Romo). The only other one is Orton who has a 91 QB rating this season.
You guys are overthinking this mess.
The Raiders can/will win again when they find a real good QB (Jake Locker) and the right coach (Gruden or Fassel). That’s all it’s going to take. Look at who we’ve had start at QB since the successful teams of the Gruden/Gannon era: Kerry Collins, Aaron Brooks, Andrew Walter, Tui, Culpepper, McCown and JaMarcus. That has way more to do with this horrendous 7-year stretch than anything else.
November 18th, 2009 at 10:39 pm
To be honest I think they didn’t go wth Frye because he might play better than they want. I think they are saving Frye untill all else fails and he will be the last resort, if he gets the job they will be looking for another team for Russell. I really think Frye if he gets this job will keep it.
November 18th, 2009 at 10:45 pm
#152
I wish all it took was a good coach and good qb. The huskies have both, but they don’t have a good team. Gruden had ganon and a whole lot others. It is a team effort and does start with the coach, then qb, good d etc. But most important at the professional level, it starts in the front office.
November 18th, 2009 at 10:46 pm
NorthernD Says:
November 18th, 2009 at 10:29 pm
Good call on Crabtree. I thought the same thing. He’s a thicker version of Brown. I was thinking Davis might see the resemblance before the draft. But I guess his mind was still stuck in the 60’s.
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I disagree about Crabtree. He’ll be a decent posession receiver for a long time, but he’s not going to be a star. Definitely won’t approach Tim Brown’s career. Think more along the lines of Keyshawn Johnson. Probably more like a poor man’s Keyshawn.
Hakeem Nicks and Maclin will be better. Dez Bryant of the upcoming draft class will be the next stud receiver.
November 18th, 2009 at 10:51 pm
16, you out there? you’re going t have to give me a way to reach you outside of this blog. BTW good job in here today kid. You’re learning to hold your own.
Right On!!
November 18th, 2009 at 11:01 pm
islandraider Says:
November 18th, 2009 at 10:45 pm
#152
I wish all it took was a good coach and good qb. The huskies have both, but they don’t have a good team. Gruden had ganon and a whole lot others. It is a team effort and does start with the coach, then qb, good d etc. But most important at the professional level, it starts in the front office.
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Definitely takes a solid team around a great QB to win in the NFL, but I actually think the rest of the team is fairly solid right now. D is constantly on the field with no margin for error. Lechler is the best. Janikowski is very good. The RBs are good. Miller is very good. The o-line needs some work but when healthy is OK. The WRs are a problem but could be much better next year considering all are basically rookies or 2nd year guys. If we had a top-10 QB right now we would have a winning record this season. I’m not saying 9-0, but I honestly think we’d be around 5-4 or 6-3 with Manning, Brees, Brady, Roethlisberger, Palmer, Rodgers, Favre, Rivers, Warner, Schaub, McNabb, Eli or Romo (that’s 13).
November 18th, 2009 at 11:03 pm
Brown is one of the greatest WR’s ever. Crabtree is similiar in build and movement, but he is still not Brown. Very few are.
Still, comparing him to Keyshawn isn’t bad, afterall he was a # 1 overall.
He’s still way better than DHB.
November 18th, 2009 at 11:07 pm
I haven’t seen Dez Bryant play. But then again, what does that matter.
What’s his 40 time?
November 18th, 2009 at 11:10 pm
Chris it’s very hard to say that. I’ve watched Rodgers and if he were deadling with two rookie WR’s he would be in real trouble.
I’m not saying that all QB’s would look bad but garnering a winning record with these babies would be very tough to. Eli is struggling even with the team he has Romo looked terrible until that kid emerged.
November 18th, 2009 at 11:19 pm
the raiders have set russ up to fail as much as he has. the contract bs was just that and they have done little to help this dude. why would u draft a wr with questionable hands with your 1rst pick? russ needs to get better now but they give him this crap. i believe alot of what the downthebay has said about the situation. hackett should get criticism for his regression.
November 18th, 2009 at 11:23 pm
Priest,
I disagree. I’ve followed Rodgers a lot this year (he’s on my fantasy team) and he’s put up huge numbers every week behind a HORRIBLE offensive line. He’s got a QB rating of 101.8 for godssakes — which is better than Tom Brady.
Romo is way better than people give him credit for. Great at keeping plays alive and very accurate on deep balls. He’s on pace for another 4,000+ yard season and sports a 14/6 TD-INT ratio. The Cowboys were garbage for years before he stepped in at QB. Then, instantly they were contenders.
Eli had a rough 3-game stretch but was on fire early in the year and had a real good game in the Giants’ loss to SD. Take away that 3-game stretch and he’d have a 12/2 TD-INT ratio and a QB rating well north of 100. As it stands he’s got a 15/8 ratio and an 89.5 rating. His WRs are somewhat better than alot of people think but are still probably the weakest on that list outside of Favre’s.
November 18th, 2009 at 11:27 pm
there is a piss poor environment in that facility and wont change with the current group of coaches i believe. dmc only gets 4 carries and the put him on the field with turftoe. i see alot of tension on the sidelines between hacket/cable russ and it seems to go beyond just football like its personal.
November 18th, 2009 at 11:34 pm
draft 1 olineman in 3 years of having russell is just stupid. not playin j walker over watkins come on son! aside from chaz we have some of the puzziest wrs in the game. dhb may be a cool person but he sucks as a wr. he has to develope starting sunday to change my mind. i know hes talented but he is SCARED TO CATCH THE BALL. he looks as if there is no clue on what to do.crabs shouldve been thewr cuz of his spunk alone.
November 18th, 2009 at 11:44 pm
also on that low throw to meyers russells arm was hit like he said it was.these announcers are garbage as well. first they say he was pissed about coming out and then they say his body language was like he didnt care. how the hell can u be pissed and not care? downthebay was right about how the media just runs with everything about him with no facts. sitting him down now that chaz is back and not dhb? but they arent forcing him on us tho tollner said the wr position are interchangeable. cable also lied about the drops comparison, idiot.
November 18th, 2009 at 11:46 pm
Armond
DHB is scared to catch the ball. All the great WR’s want the ball. They dream about it.
DHB doesn’t want the pressure or the spotlight.
How could they ( Al) not see that?
The guy wanted to red-shirt this year…
DHB said that.
November 18th, 2009 at 11:51 pm
I think the WRs are dropping balls because they are so shocked and excited to actually see the ball somewhere near their (not they’re Jerry. A person who writes for a living should know the difference) hands.
Russell sucks and anyone defending this meathead should get off the weed.
He’ll get 1 more year somewhere else because someone out there will be arrogant enough to think they can take Al’s trash and make treasures. (See Bill Belichik as an example)
Then, he’ll be out of the league.
I don’t listen to what players say about other players on their team. I WATCH their body language, tempo, and excitement. The offensive players have responded positively each time Bruce has came in, including game 1 against SD.
The players don’t believe in him, the coaches don’t believe in him, and now Al is having his doubts.
November 18th, 2009 at 11:54 pm
yeah i remeber he joked about that so i took it as just that. i wouldnt take that 2 seriously cuz the dude does want o play. however he does fade too easy but we will see how he responds this week. btw way did i mention our wrs are wussies?xcept chaz ofcourse.
November 18th, 2009 at 11:57 pm
alot of u guys hate russell so much youll say anything. grad go the same problems russ had. fans can defend who the hell they want without approval. people thought benson was done too now look at him. if u think this is all russell u are on the weed. this organization is a mess.
November 19th, 2009 at 12:15 am
No one is saying Russell is the only problem on this team.
The Raiders have lots of problems…
1. Injuries and inconsistent o-line play
2. Horrible LBs (over aggressive and too small to take on lineman in the gaps)
3. Suspect safety play
4. 2 Rookie WRs starting
Just saying that the WRs will never develop with Russell under center.
It is obvious that the coaches feel the same way. Otherwise, they leave Russell in and replace the WRs.
November 19th, 2009 at 12:39 am
There’s no way Davis wants to eat the salaries of Russell and DHB in the same bite. Cable had a choice. Sit Russell or DHB.
Having Russell sit out probably gives them a better (still slim) chance to win. You can just ignore DHB and not throw to him, but you can’t get around a poor game by JaMarcus.
November 19th, 2009 at 1:40 am
A win on Sunday is as likely as a virgin birth…
November 19th, 2009 at 2:07 am
Cable had to do something his job is on the line, he has to win games these last 7 weeks after losing to KC he has no where else to go. This is best for Russell and everyone concerned.
The crowd was blaming him for the WR’s drops his sacks and every negative thing that goes on. This will give the fans te chance too see that those things aren’t Russell but the team around him. If not then the Team gets instantly better. So the coaches can’t go wrong Cable benched the player they said he couldn’t bench. So they can’t say that anymore. Now they get to see what was Russell’s fault and what wasn’t.
It also gets through to Russell that he has to startputting in the neccessary time to get better. How can this be bad?
November 19th, 2009 at 2:24 am
test…
November 19th, 2009 at 4:20 am
Good Morning NATION!!!
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priesttj Says:
November 18th, 2009 at 10:25 pm
BTW 16, I have those tickets and I need a way to get them to you.
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I dont care what anyone thinks…This is a very nice thing you did Priesttj and I am glad there are people like you around!!!
November 19th, 2009 at 4:24 am
you should be proud of yourself =)
November 19th, 2009 at 4:36 am
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November 19th, 2009 at 5:10 am
Of course he has been bad but with Russell out now all the bust focus goes to Mcfadden and DHB although a rook wr thats a hard spot to learn but he can’t go 0 for in TD that’s awful. But Mcfadden is everything Mike Mayock said about him skinny legs and is fast but doesn’t make people miss and never broke a tackle in his life.
November 19th, 2009 at 5:17 am
priesttj Says:
November 18th, 2009 at 10:25 pm
BTW 16, I have those tickets and I need a way to get them to you.
You
are joking, right 
November 19th, 2009 at 5:29 am
priesttj Says:
November 18th, 2009 at 10:39 pm
To be honest I think they didn’t go wth Frye because he might play better than they want.
That makes sense
why 
would they want a QB who plays good 
bhp 
you 
were warned on the other boards not to take Viagra if you 
were taking nitrates for chest pain. BTW who are “they” 
November 19th, 2009 at 5:46 am
Good Morning Nation!!!
Dam…Troll is up early this morning…good morning to you!
So, Cable is clear that Gradowski is NOT our savior? Wow…that sucks knowing that we have arguably the 3 worst QB’s in the NFL! That makes me feel better…Russell better get a clue, or Al should just give him his money and cut the ties!!!
November 19th, 2009 at 5:48 am
AbusedByAl Says:
November 19th, 2009 at 1:40 am
A win on Sunday is as likely as a virgin birth…
Haha! Although I agree…it has happened! Over 2,000 years ago, but it has happened!
November 19th, 2009 at 6:00 am
Morning nation.
I’d say the lease deal works both ways. I can’t see many clubs vying to get into OA coliseum. Not exactly the house Jerry Jones built.
If Davis knows its a motivational thing to get his team to perform, why not hire some key motivational players?
Does he think he has them? Seymour lets the music do the talkin’. Russell is a laid back southerner, so’s DMC. Bey, well…c’mon. To an extent the same goes for Louis Murphy. He wants to be, but drops too many balls, and has freak penalties called on him almost like the WANT to break his spirit and keep him from igniting the Raiders.
Some one has to.
Now.
November 19th, 2009 at 6:04 am
BlackSunday32 Says:
November 19th, 2009 at 5:10 am
Of course he has been bad but with Russell out now all the bust focus goes to Mcfadden and DHB although a rook wr thats a hard spot to learn but he can’t go 0 for in TD that’s awful. But Mcfadden is everything Mike Mayock said about him skinny legs and is fast but doesn’t make people miss and never broke a tackle in his life.
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Mayock gets much respect. He’s got Al’s number. it would behoove Al to hire Mayock, have him diagnose our next draft and leave Al out of it.
We’ve got speed. We’ve got size. Lets draft some football players who can inspire our “athletes”.
last two drafts Mayock has been far and way the most accurate and impressive of any ananlyst on NFLN.
Liked Tyvon, knew we were taking Bey. Questioned Jamarcus, has been dead on about Gates McFadden.
Lets have ONE Al free draft please? Sprinkle in some football guys with the intangibles and then you’ve got a beast.
November 19th, 2009 at 6:04 am
GOOD MORNING SPORT’S FAN’S,I AM UNSURE ABOUT THIS QB QUANDRY,IMO,I WOULD STILL HAVE RUSSELL IN THERE HOPEFULLY LEARNING,AND ON THE OFF CHANCE THAT LIGHT BULB WILL COME ON AND HE WILL HAVE A HUGE GAME AGAINST SOMEBODY AND GO FROM THERE. THINK IT IS SAFE TO SAY THE RAIDER’S R NOT GOING TO THE SUPER-BOWL’THIS YEAR ,AND THAT GRADKOWSKY / FRY ARE NOT THE FUTURE OF THIS FRANCHISE..
November 19th, 2009 at 6:09 am
hwnrdr Says:
November 19th, 2009 at 5:48 am
…it has happened! Over 2,000 years ago, but it has happened!
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Hmmm, yeah, that’s about the timeframe when they should become competitive again, if Al will give up control until then, which is not a given…
November 19th, 2009 at 6:13 am
Dirt Lot: I agree. Russell should’ve been allowed to ride it out, but if he’s been a slackin A hole and Cable needs to do something about it so be it. Hammer that f’in kid hard. Russell may sue to get out but thats the chance you take. Al needs to learn a lesson too about spoiling his children.
IF Ruussell’s not putting in the work, force him. The way Al’s got it, you can’t. Al won’t let you and russell’s got the team by the balls.
Bench his ass. Hopefully (won’t happen) Grad goes on a tear.
November 19th, 2009 at 6:24 am
NnAMDi21,YOU ARE CORRECT SIR,TO BAD THERE IS NO ONE ON THIS TEAM,COACH INCLUDED, WITH THE NUT’S TO SLAP THE KID INTO SHAPE. CAN NOT BELIEVE HE IS TO DUMB TO FIGURE OUT THAT IF HE PLAY’S WELL4 HIS FIRST 6 YR CONTRACT, THE NEXT CONTRACT WOULD BE WORTH WAY MORE THAN THE FIRST. U CAN’T FIX STUPID, MAYBE THAT IS THE PROBLEM..
November 19th, 2009 at 6:29 am
I cannot believe that the Raiders continue to go with DHB. Al Davis doesn’t understand the difference between quickness and speed. I feel sorry for Gradkowski with DHB on the outside. At least he has Schilens and Miller to throw to. Meanwhile, Crabtree continues to excel.
November 19th, 2009 at 6:33 am
I hope not Abused…I hope not. I don’t know about Al, but I know I’m not living that long to see this turn around…LOL
November 19th, 2009 at 6:39 am
morning sportsfans,
likely scenario to me come Sunday is that on or about the second offensive series for the Raiders (on the way to another three and out Lechler special) the newly anointed QB (The Cable guy trying to save his job? – not likely) will have his knee wrenched as another wobbly play goes down. In comes QB #2 on the next series, your very own JRussell.
November 19th, 2009 at 6:56 am
Time for DHB to breakout. Seriously he is open on 90% of plays because of his speed. JR was for some reason refusing to pass to him. Now that Gradkowski is behind center I bet DHB proves his skills.
My prediction: 8 catches, 137 yds and 2 TDs
November 19th, 2009 at 6:57 am
As others have been saying,Jmac rarely looks DHB’s way…others say DHB has been wide open but 4 some reason or other he doesnt get the ball then.
The reason Gruden drafted Gradkowski is because Grad
s lead the nation in completion % his senior year at Toledo,of all places.
Gradkowski was pressed into service in Tampa as a rookie due to injures 2 others.I think he went 5-6 as a starter.
Now he’s prolly a little rusty but its going 2B interesting if Grads can hit DHB the moment the timing play is there.If he does…well then that will speak volumes,imo
November 19th, 2009 at 6:59 am
Maybe the D scores and plays great and Jano nails a couple 50+yrd and we upset the Bengals, man grabowski should kept Culpepper not still elite but GRABOWKSI&FRYE awful both.
November 19th, 2009 at 7:00 am
What up NATION???????
Not sure that BRL did not want to pass to DHB. BRL cant
see the field, and his passing is aweful.. would have been over/under thrown…..
BRL worst QB in the history of the NFL…
November 19th, 2009 at 7:01 am
hwnrdr Says:
AbusedByAl Says:
November 19th, 2009 at 1:40 am
A win on Sunday is as likely as a virgin birth…
Haha! Although I agree…it has happened! Over 2,000 years ago, but it has happened!
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Don’t get me started….no one here wants to get me started on this. hahahaha
November 19th, 2009 at 7:04 am
Morning Raider Nation!
JerryMac is issueing self-serving dribble about the Raider’s tentative lease. It is in his BEST INTEREST to promote the Raider’s staying. Al Davis believes leases are made to be broken. After all, the Raider’s need to sell ticket packages for next year. Jerry’s blog would crash and he would be out of a job with the Oakland Tribune. Let’s see what transpires next year. Again living in N/W Ohio now, I don’t care where the Raider’s call home. I just am a diehard, lifelong Raider Fan!
November 19th, 2009 at 7:04 am
I’m gonna miss Jamarcus playing on Sundays. No more goofing on him. I’m gonna miss my bro laughing at the T.V. everytime Russell reviews the stills from the last play of the three and out series,screaming “Look! the dumb MFer’s gonna ask for crayons! He thinks it’s a coloring book!”or ” It’s a f’n menu dude! He aint going over s**t! He’s ordering some BBQ n s**t!
November 19th, 2009 at 7:05 am
BRL cant get the ball to DHB open or not….
BRL cant lead men….
BRL is a 3rd stringer at best…
BRL cant get in shape…
BRL after 3 years cant get the WHOLE playbook…
BRL the face of the oakland raiders…
November 19th, 2009 at 7:06 am
QCRAIDER Says:
November 19th, 2009 at 7:04 am
I’m gonna miss Jamarcus playing on Sundays. No more goofing on him. I’m gonna miss my bro laughing at the T.V. everytime Russell reviews the stills from the last play of the three and out series,screaming “Look! the dumb MFer’s gonna ask for crayons! He thinks it’s a coloring book!”or ” It’s a f’n menu dude! He aint going over s**t! He’s ordering some BBQ n s**t!
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ROFLMAO…….
November 19th, 2009 at 7:08 am
It will be interesing to see if JaBenchus can at least hold the clipboard right side up on Sunday.
November 19th, 2009 at 7:12 am
Will Russell be wearing that beanie the whole game , I swear every time he makes a horrible 3 down throw or read he always goes straight to the beanie must be like his blanky.
November 19th, 2009 at 7:16 am
Well if there wasnt adversity it wouldnt feel right,i guess.
Man…I hope this will make Jmac understand that he has 2 work very very hard in this league.He’s 21??? and should be thinking I got my whole life ahead of me so the next 10-15 years it should be the nfl in his head.He should be sick with it.Thats the only way it can be.All the talent in the world…but in this league it takes waaay more than that.
Come on Big Man take and enjoy your medicine
November 19th, 2009 at 7:16 am
The question came up “IF” BRL was slacking. He was slacking day 1 coming into camp 50 lbs overweight…
the face of the NFL franchise coming into camp out of shape. He got paid 30 mil up front… WTF…
Josh freeman 6′6″ 248
BRL 6′6″ 299
November 19th, 2009 at 7:17 am
Man 4 him 2 fail is not an option,imo
November 19th, 2009 at 7:20 am
morning all.
November 19th, 2009 at 7:21 am
4Eva, what up Bro… After 3 years BRL has allready failed… Fat Slug….
November 19th, 2009 at 7:22 am
I have to agree 4eva…
I think, maybe, if Al asks him to restruct his contract, that may be the trigger that gets him going. Hopefully, though…it this benching that makes him realize it!!!
November 19th, 2009 at 7:23 am
DHB was the WR that was closest to being “NFL Ready” in the draft…
WTF, does NFL Ready even mean???
November 19th, 2009 at 7:23 am
the trigger will be to jettison the Fat f@ck to the CFL
November 19th, 2009 at 7:25 am
As a result of the benching BRl turns to comfort food and adds another 25lbs to the 300 he now sts at, ballooning to 325 lbs…
November 19th, 2009 at 8:05 am
I guess on the bright side it will give JaDrool more time to focus on his Palace o’ Chick’n N Waffles franchise.
November 19th, 2009 at 8:24 am
wow I just couldnt post 4 a long time
November 19th, 2009 at 8:29 am
Anyway change has come!!!
Cable benches Jmac…not a sound from the front office
Front office calmly announces a 3 year lease extension
People want Cables head on a platter
People been sreaming 4 continuity
The Raiders are staying in Oakland
And Tom Cable is gonna be the coach,imo
November 19th, 2009 at 8:31 am
Here’s my comment for the day.
I actually like JaMarcus’ thick skin and ability to shrug some of the stuff off and get out there and try to get it done.
Yeah, he’s played poorly, but I still think that he has a swagger and confidence that has not come to the surface yet, 1, because he is not prepared and 2 because his WR’s are horrible.
Let’s get him prepared and give him some guys who can let him get confident. There is something about this guy that makes me think that he’s got an arrogance and pride inside that needs to be cultivated.
I actually dig JaMarcus. He needs to grow up and he’ll be the Man. You wanna be the MAN? Get it done JaMarcus!
November 19th, 2009 at 8:35 am
Thec,
A picture speaks 1000 words. Russell anywhere near 300? LMFAO!
http://espn.go.com/blog/afcwest/post/_/id/6802/russell-move-is-too-early
November 19th, 2009 at 8:39 am
4eva,
change? you mean the kind of change brought about by our new leader at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue? the kind of change wherein nothing at all changes? all of a sudden WRs are going to hold onto the ball kind of change? all of a sudden the HC is going to call an impressive game kind of change? all of a sudden the uber-wealthy in control of this country are going to relinquish their ill-gotten gains to benefit the poorer members of society and support a new restructuring of the infrastructure kind of change?
or, a change of color in the White House changing nothing kind of change as a change of color in the Oakland huddle changing nothing kind of change.
don’t just change, evolve!!
November 19th, 2009 at 8:41 am
Too much overthinking this.
Russell not being #3 on the depth chart says it ALL to me. The lessoned to be learned is throw the ball to DHB.
Cable says guys are running wide open, and Russell is ignoring them. Folks say he only looks at one side of the field, and we all know that means he’s NOT looking at DHB again.
If Russell simply looks DHBs way, and throws him the ball, he solves Cable’s 2 issues with him. If Russell looked at DHB, or should we say the whole field, then you wouldn’t have folks talking crazy about him not knowing the playbook, lol.
I guarantee you DHB gets the ball thrown his way AT LEAST 8 times this week.
November 19th, 2009 at 8:41 am
Gradkowski had a good supporting cast on offense at Toledo. Protecting him up front was Nick Kaczur of the Patriots, Nick Moore of the Ravens at WR. Point-shaving Scooter McDougle at RB
November 19th, 2009 at 8:45 am
I think you would find that playing QB in the CFL is harder than it looks.
ask Theisman and Joe Kapp.
November 19th, 2009 at 8:45 am
There were tiiiiimes I thought … It wouldn’t laaaa-eh-eh-aaa-ast, but now I am able …. to carry on!
It’s been a loooooooooong, a long time comin” but I noooooo-oh-eh-ohhhhh, a change gone come …
November 19th, 2009 at 8:50 am
Thec…What he was thrown into was a rough row to hoe.
Jmac will be back with a new attitude,a what it takes attitude,imo
November 19th, 2009 at 8:54 am
M Lonetree…..
No the kinda of change where the players know the coach is in charge,there will be no going the coaches head.
New lease agreement
BIG STATMENT by the org.,imo
Big Al
November 19th, 2009 at 8:56 am
over sorry
November 19th, 2009 at 8:57 am
M Lonetree Says:
November 19th, 2009 at 8:39 am
4eva,
change? you mean the kind of change brought about by our new leader at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue? the kind of change wherein nothing at all changes? all of a sudden WRs are going to hold onto the ball kind of change? all of a sudden the HC is going to call an impressive game kind of change? all of a sudden the uber-wealthy in control of this country are going to relinquish their ill-gotten gains to benefit the poorer members of society and support a new restructuring of the infrastructure kind of change?
or, a change of color in the White House changing nothing kind of change as a change of color in the Oakland huddle changing nothing kind of change.
don’t just change, evolve!!
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lol…nice sound off…feels good to let ‘er rip once in a while right M?
November 19th, 2009 at 9:01 am
That just a little 2 deep 4me 2day =)
November 19th, 2009 at 9:03 am
Nor did free safety Hiram Eugene, who had a shoulder injury.
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Does that mean we’ll see Mitchell play, if Huff can’t go? Yeah fk’n right! Cable will probably use Bowie at free safety.
November 19th, 2009 at 9:08 am
Hey M,
You keep talking about the wealthy being hit for these proposed benefits for the poorer members of society.
Are you uber-wealthy? I am not, and yet you and I will be taxed to pay for these changes. In the House Bill, Medicaid eligibility will be raised to 150% of the poverty level, meaning the States will have to come up with huge amounts of revenue to pay for the extra people on Medicaid.
Do you really think that only the uber-wealthy will be taxed to pay for that? Try again, state property taxes, sales taxes and income taxes will have to be raised…schools will have to cut their budgets, States will have to fire employees.
That hits everyone, even when we are struggling just to keep our heads above water.
Uber wealthy my ass.
November 19th, 2009 at 9:13 am
Ex…yep that was an unhearled squad but they always got the Toledo name publicity lmao!!!!
Scooter McD!!!
November 19th, 2009 at 9:17 am
We need to set the record straight on Jamarcus’ age. I saw 4eva say he is 21, and read someone say he started at 20.
He is 24, has been the entire season (DOB:8/9/85). Metabolism is slowing down, so if he wants to stay trim, he has to work harder every year.
Fat chance (pun intended)
November 19th, 2009 at 9:17 am
And I am not saying Gradkowski is the answer…but he “could” end up somewhere in the league as a starter on a play-off team.When you lead the nation in any catagory you really know all aspects of your position,imo
November 19th, 2009 at 9:18 am
thankx Vegas 4 making that right =)
November 19th, 2009 at 9:18 am
# The Real MaddenRaider Says:
November 18th, 2009 at 5:33 pm
How dumb are Raider fans who still go to games? These guys give good money to an owner who’s trying to lose! Why don’t they give me the money? If they’re going to waste it anyway.
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How dumb are YOU. . .and guys like YOU (i.e. Richocrap & Dakota) who clearly acknowlege that Al Davis absolutely has complete authority over the entire franchise, then go on to rip the Raiders day and night while fully knowing Al Davis isn’t going anywhere any time soon? You’re acknowledging that
YOU are the idiots who have such a negative view of “your team” ,and yet, continue to waste your time on blogs like this, and waste your time watching the games.
Who’s the real dummy? YOU ARE. You’re investing all this time in something you ridicule. You’re wasting your time in something you don’t see getting better.
If I hated something so much, you think I’d be watching? NO WAY. If I felt that there is absolutely NO hope of the Raiders succeeding under Al Davis, you think I would be watching this team? Hell no.
So who’s the real dummy? YOU ARE.
I love watching the Raiders. I love attending games. You wanna call it money in Al’s pocket? Go ahead moron. That’s fine. The team’s record doesn’t dictate my appreciation for football and camaraderie with other fans at the stadium. Contrary to YOU, I’m investing my time in something that I ENJOY.
YOU fools, on the other hand, are investing all your time in something you HATE.
Who’s the real dummy?
November 19th, 2009 at 9:22 am
dakota,
Congress is in the pockets of the corporates, nothing new about that.
And, now that the Raiders are leased thru 2013, you and your family can come west for the big game on 12/21/12 in the Black Hole. Get your tix in advance as it is going to be a wild one!
November 19th, 2009 at 9:25 am
at 11:11 sharp
November 19th, 2009 at 9:28 am
Silver-n-Smac,
Hey putz, even if a person thinks a situation is hopeless, it doesn’t mean they should stop shouting for change. Only gutless puzzies like you would do that. If you really care about something, and you want it fixed, you identify the main problem and attack it, no matter how hopeless it seems.
Only bleeding vagin@s like you sit back and shut up when things seem hopeless. If the world was made up of weak willed ninnies like you there never would have been a revolutionary war, a civil rights movement, women’s rights or the fall of East Germany and communist controlled eastern Europe.
“You’re wasting your time in something you don’t see getting better.” Only a puzzy would say something like that.
November 19th, 2009 at 9:29 am
Glad that Harry Reid is drafting this health-care bill. The guy is getting killed by 20+ points in preliminary polls for 2010 in Nevada. He is running against Jerry Tarkanian’s nephew, he stands zero chance.
And this is the guy who is going to draft one of the most important bills this country has ever seen? He won’t even be in office in a year!!!
November 19th, 2009 at 9:32 am
Scratch that, Tark the Shark’s son (the Tark’s are big in Vegas politics and got them confused).
November 19th, 2009 at 9:32 am
4eva,
apologies if it sounded as if I was giving you attitude with my “change” diatribe. It was not directed toward you, it was just a rant about the concept.
November 19th, 2009 at 9:36 am
test
November 19th, 2009 at 9:37 am
Couldn’t post for a while there……have I missed anything ?
November 19th, 2009 at 9:37 am
Silver-n-Smac Says:
November 19th, 2009 at 9:18 am
“If I hated something so much, you think I’d be watching? NO WAY. If I felt that there is absolutely NO hope of the Raiders succeeding under Al Davis, you think I would be watching this team? Hell no.
So who’s the real dummy? YOU ARE.”
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What a little wimp. Basically admits that he quits when the going gets tough, lol.
November 19th, 2009 at 9:38 am
Dakota Says:
November 19th, 2009 at 9:28 am
Silver-n-Smac,
Hey putz, even if a person thinks a situation is hopeless, it doesn’t mean they should stop shouting for change.
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“Shouting for change”????
Man, are you THAT stupid?
This is Al Davis fool. This isn’t the civil rights movement.
Al Doesn’t give a crap what you think about the state of the Raiders. Do you not get that?
I DO get that. I’ve always known that. And I know that won’t change. But, I still love watching Raider football. I take it for what it is. It’s always been that way.
So go ahead. Holler. Shout. Whine like a little biotch. What exactly do you think is gonna happen?
Al is gonna hear you and hire a GM? You think Al’s gonna hire a new coach or a new GM because of empty seats?
Fan reaction is the last thing on Al’s mind. He may be a whack job, but, his actions are never prompted by fan response.
So get over yourself.
As I said before, YOU are the fools who hate this so much, and yet, keep on watching. . .keep on whining.
The Raiders suck.
I get that.
Al Davis ain’t going nowhere.
I get that.
I’ll keep my shouting and uprisings for things that really matter. . . .i.e. the civil rights movement.
Not for matters such as forcing Al’s hand.
If you’ve watched the Raiders for any length of time, and still don’t get the way things work around this team, then you never will get it.
And if you don’t like it, and you keep watching it, then again. . . .YOU are the fools.
November 19th, 2009 at 9:41 am
# Dakota Says:
November 19th, 2009 at 9:37 am
Silver-n-Smac Says:
November 19th, 2009 at 9:18 am
“If I hated something so much, you think I’d be watching? NO WAY. If I felt that there is absolutely NO hope of the Raiders succeeding under Al Davis, you think I would be watching this team? Hell no.
So who’s the real dummy? YOU ARE.”
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What a little wimp. Basically admits that he quits when the going gets tough, lol.
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Quit????
You’re the moron. I haven’t missed one single snap or Raider football in 31 years.
In 31 years, I’ve either attended in person, watched on TV or listened on the radio. . .
EVERY SINGLE GAME. EVERY SINGLE SNAP, from beginning to end.
So go ahead with your “wimp” comment.
Does it make you feel all warm and fuzzy inside Dakota?
What a clown.# Dakota Says:
November 19th, 2009 at 9:37 am
Silver-n-Smac Says:
November 19th, 2009 at 9:18 am
“If I hated something so much, you think I’d be watching? NO WAY. If I felt that there is absolutely NO hope of the Raiders succeeding under Al Davis, you think I would be watching this team? Hell no.
So who’s the real dummy? YOU ARE.”
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What a little wimp. Basically admits that he quits when the going gets tough, lol.
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Quit????
You’re the moron. I haven’t missed one single snap or Raider football in 31 years.
In 31 years, I’ve either attended in person, watched on TV or listened on the radio. . .
EVERY SINGLE GAME. EVERY SINGLE SNAP, from beginning to end.
So go ahead with your “wimp” comment.
Does it make you feel all warm and fuzzy inside Dakota?
What a clown.
November 19th, 2009 at 9:41 am
I expect this to be a let-down game for the Bengals. Bruce will give the offense a little zip, and if they can do marginally better on offense, the D will react and step up their game.
I am really liking the Raiders +9.5 points. As bad as they have been, they are 4-5 against the spread.
November 19th, 2009 at 9:42 am
Dakota says:
What a little wimp. Basically admits that he quits when the going gets tough, lol.
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Quit????
You’re the moron. I haven’t missed one single snap or Raider football in 31 years.
In 31 years, I’ve either attended in person, watched on TV or listened on the radio. . .
EVERY SINGLE GAME. EVERY SINGLE SNAP, from beginning to end.
So go ahead with your “wimp” comment.
Does it make you feel all warm and fuzzy inside Dakota?
What a clown.
November 19th, 2009 at 9:45 am
Man. . . . .
Comparing “the fall of East Germany and communist controlled eastern Europe” to taking down Al Davis.
What a bafoon.
November 19th, 2009 at 9:47 am
LMAO
The rantings of a puzzie fan content with the worst seven year streak in NFL history. Everyone shut up and take it cuz puzzie fans like Silver-n-smac say so!
I don’t think so cupcake. You keep making excuses, and some of us will keep pointing out the truth, even if it makes you and sissies like you mad, lol
November 19th, 2009 at 9:47 am
The blog is DEAD! What’s left is how many new fun names can we read about Jamarcus that is funny yet tragic.
I know some of you want the HC fired, like Dakota and others.
I know some of you want to blame Davis for everything, even the purchase of single ply toilet paper at the Coliseum.
I don’t want to leave any other players out. They have there hands on this season, as well as the last six.
Place any player in your comment and you’ll find many who don’t and will not, put the work in to be a better player, as well as a team player.
I’m tired of hearing of communication problems, starting fast, having the athletic skill as most teams. I want to see the results of this cheapen talk, and stop making excuses.
Why do the veterans on this team continue to be quiet. Are they behind the scenes, motivating the young players. I never here of any strong words from any vet. The interviews they give are typical company line crap, you wonder if they just don’t give a dam.
The paychecks are cashed and the fans are left with a team that doesn’t compete hard, on a weekly basis.
To the Raider team at least compete. Work hard and show us you care. Stop referring to the mistakes you make during the game and stop making them.
My last thought is to the Raider Nation. My biggest problem is what do you do with a QB that is not motivated.
Where do you start. His weight is just pissing me off. To be successful in any major sport, you must take care of your body. The eating part, weight lifting, the cardio, the weight you maintain all year. Jamarcus has no interest, in that basic model of professionalism. Than were, it’s over.
His accuracy is terrible, his footwork is terrible, that requires many hours of practice. Does he even care?
We hear of Grad and Frye in early looking at film of the next opponent, yet Jamarcus is in from what I read between the lines never early. Why doesn’t he get it. Where is the player or players waiting for.
To the players, get this baby motivated, stop talking to him and get in his face, enough is enough.
I remember the Mark Wilson era, we are screwed. Davis will go at least two more years with Jamarcus. Our hope is something or somebody can motivate this baby.
November 19th, 2009 at 9:49 am
Dakota Says:
November 19th, 2009 at 9:37 am
What a little wimp. Basically admits that he quits when the going gets tough, lol.
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I guess we can assume he’s not a Cub fan…
November 19th, 2009 at 9:50 am
The only vet I heard speking his mind was Ellis. We need more Ellises on this team.
November 19th, 2009 at 9:51 am
Silver n Smak says we should quit following the Raiders, because he would quit! He is a quitter, little puzzie that would bail if he felt hopeless!
lol
Quit you big meanies, stop saying bad things about the great Al Davis!!!!!
lol
What a puss…
November 19th, 2009 at 9:52 am
Go Democrats!
November 19th, 2009 at 9:52 am
Screw the rich!
November 19th, 2009 at 9:53 am
Enough of trickle (down their leg) economics!
November 19th, 2009 at 9:53 am
Dakota says:
I don’t think so cupcake. You keep making excuses, and some of us will keep pointing out the truth, even if it makes you and sissies like you mad, lol
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Who said anything about the “truth”?
Go ahead and point it out for us until you’re exhausted.
Think any of it makes a bit of difference?
Think you’re gonna take down Germany?
LOL
You go ahead and keep on hating it Dakota.
And yet. . .you go ahead and keep on watching.
As I keep saying. . . .who’s the fool?
YOU are.
November 19th, 2009 at 9:53 am
I just want the health plan my elected reps get!
November 19th, 2009 at 9:53 am
Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
November 19th, 2009 at 9:49 am
Dakota Says:
November 19th, 2009 at 9:37 am
What a little wimp. Basically admits that he quits when the going gets tough, lol.
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I guess we can assume he’s not a Cub fan…
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No schyt
November 19th, 2009 at 9:54 am
Screw the HMOs! Twice!
November 19th, 2009 at 9:54 am
I’m done. Seeya in a week or so.
November 19th, 2009 at 9:54 am
Hey Dakota:
If you’re going to call someone a puss. . .
You may want to consider doing that in person rather than hiding behind an internet post.
November 19th, 2009 at 9:54 am
Marc Wilson…….I’m gonna have nightmares tonight.
November 19th, 2009 at 9:56 am
Silver-n-Smac Says:
November 19th, 2009 at 9:53 am
Dakota says:
I don’t think so cupcake. You keep making excuses, and some of us will keep pointing out the truth, even if it makes you and sissies like you mad, lol
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Who said anything about the “truth”?
Go ahead and point it out for us until you’re exhausted.
Think any of it makes a bit of difference?
Think you’re gonna take down Germany?
LOL
You go ahead and keep on hating it Dakota.
And yet. . .you go ahead and keep on watching.
As I keep saying. . . .who’s the fool?
YOU are.
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Hey, we can’t all just bend over and take it with a smile like you sissy boy. Just because you are genetically predisposed to putting your head up your ass and pretending everything is fine doesn’t mean that is the way all of us operate.
November 19th, 2009 at 9:58 am
RaiderDell:
Can’t argue with you.
The only thing I would say is that he’s still one of the youngest players in the league.
Is it really prudent to give up on him after 25 starts in the NFL?
I may be wrong, but, I’d like to think that perhaps sitting on the bench for an extended period (i.e. Vince Young, Alex Smith) may provide him with a sense of humility & a clearer picture of how the game should be played by a pro.
Personally, I would have liked to just ride out the year with him so that we could make a better determination, at year’s end, if we want to part ways or not.
With this move to Gradkowski, you’re saying JRuss is definitely coming back next year.
And he’ll be coming back with 7 less starts under his belt that he could have had.
We’ll see how it shakes out.
November 19th, 2009 at 9:58 am
Silver-n-Smac Says:
November 19th, 2009 at 9:54 am
Hey Dakota:
If you’re going to call someone a puss. . .
You may want to consider doing that in person rather than hiding behind an internet post.
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lol, come and get some city boy
November 19th, 2009 at 9:59 am
RaiderDell,
good morning to you sir.
to improve oneself in any regard requires motivation. We all know that. What is Russell’s motivation? He doesn’t lack for food, cash or family. He’s already got his from the NFL’s lack of rookie salary cap. He doesn’t appear to care about the rest.
November 19th, 2009 at 9:59 am
Dakota Says:
November 19th, 2009 at 9:56 am
Hey, we can’t all just bend over and take it with a smile like you sissy boy. Just because you are genetically predisposed to putting your head up your ass and pretending everything is fine doesn’t mean that is the way all of us operate.
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Hey wait, didn’t you do exactly that for 8 years under George W?
November 19th, 2009 at 9:59 am
BSJ,
I think in the Raiders case, Bruce would be the common man, for the people Democrat.
Jamarcus is the big and powerful, ultra-wealthy, entitled Repub, who could care less about the common man.
Go Bruce!!!!
November 19th, 2009 at 10:00 am
Sorry, really out now.
November 19th, 2009 at 10:00 am
Its all good M Lonetree =)
November 19th, 2009 at 10:00 am
LOL Vegas.
November 19th, 2009 at 10:01 am
And still I would prefer JaMarcus Russell to be the starting QB for the Raiders rather than Frye-boy or the Little Lebowski.
November 19th, 2009 at 10:01 am
Dakota:
Who every said everything is fine?
If you’re gonna quote me, get it right moron.
I fully acknowledged that we’ve sucked and still suck.
I’ve fully acknowledged, in numerous posts, that Al Davis has had a heavy hand in those struggles.
But, I’m not stupid enough to think anything I do (i.e. going or not going to games, or biotching on a blog) is going to affect Al Davis one way or another.
The only think that’ll possibly change to please you idiots, is if the man dies.
And anyone who wishes for that is a sick bastard.
Otherwise, go find a team that can make you happy you ignorant pile of shiot.
November 19th, 2009 at 10:03 am
fightfightfightfightfightfightfightfightfightfightfightfightfightfightfightfight…….
November 19th, 2009 at 10:04 am
M Lonetree Says:
November 19th, 2009 at 10:01 am
And still I would prefer JaMarcus Russell to be the starting QB for the Raiders rather than Frye-boy or the Little Lebowski.
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Can I ask why? If he wants his job back, he can get it. This was mostly an off-the-field decision. Bruce was getting more reps leading up to the Chiefs game.
Probably wasn’t a good bye week for Jamarcus, in the leadership, work ethic department.
November 19th, 2009 at 10:04 am
Dakota, Richocrap, MaddenRaider:
You are ALL textbook Whiner Fans.
What the hell are you doing HERE?
November 19th, 2009 at 10:05 am
because I’ve already seem umpteen has-been and never-was QBs trotted out by the Oakland Raiders since the Plunkett era.
At least with JRuss it is something other than plucking another wash-out QB from the league’s scrap heap.
November 19th, 2009 at 10:06 am
fightfightfightfight!
November 19th, 2009 at 10:07 am
fightfightfightfightfightfightfightfightfight…..
November 19th, 2009 at 10:07 am
Nope just another heartless awful draft pick by Al. We have seen plenty of those too, haven’t we? Just not recently at the QB position, but it is all the same.
November 19th, 2009 at 10:08 am
Well, at least you admit I am right about Al Davis, lol.
November 19th, 2009 at 10:08 am
“Terms of the extension are basically the same as the current lease, which calls for the team to pay $525,000 per season and share some other revenue with the authority, such as from concessions. The extension calls for the team to pay an additional $5 million over the additional three years. The team still would owe the $5 million if it moved to a stadium outside Alameda County.”
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So the penalty of annulling the lease is only $5 million. Chump change.
November 19th, 2009 at 10:08 am
The disagreement between Dakota and Silver has more passion than Jamarcus has shown since his signing.
The fans have more passion than our QB. We are royally_____________!!!!
November 19th, 2009 at 10:09 am
Bruce was trained by Jon Gruden when he came into the league. That right there makes me eager to at least give him a few games, to see if he can emerge as a heady game-manager to man the post for awhile.
Jamarcus is no good, plain as day to see.
November 19th, 2009 at 10:09 am
Silver-n-Smac Says:
November 19th, 2009 at 10:04 am
Dakota, Richocrap, MaddenRaider:
You are ALL textbook Whiner Fans.
What the hell are you doing HERE?
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Lol, here we go again, the quitter telling everyone to do what he would do if he felt the same way…quit, lol
November 19th, 2009 at 10:09 am
Oh and by the way…it was Jimmy Carter who brought down the Berlin Wall lol
November 19th, 2009 at 10:10 am
Doesn’t matter who’s QB…..they ain’t gonna catch that ball.
November 19th, 2009 at 10:10 am
LMMFAO Neilb!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
November 19th, 2009 at 10:12 am
I have the perfect solution to our QB disaster. Let’s use Bush as our QB. He can throw the ball. Run and scramble if needs to. Is just as big as Jadeadly, plus he’ll be happy playing the entire game.
November 19th, 2009 at 10:12 am
Neilb,
Jamarcus’ season high is 17 completions. Bruce will beat that in his first start.
November 19th, 2009 at 10:13 am
Vegas,
I understand that. JRussell might deserve the scrap heap himself from his present work. But, he isn’t somebody else’s discarded trash. He is a young QB with apparently poor work ethic, but he is the Raiders’ young QB. There is no upside to the Frye/Grad combo. Just a waste of time.
November 19th, 2009 at 10:13 am
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW!!!
Big Al ONLY PAYS A HALF-A-MILL
Way 2 go Big Al!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
November 19th, 2009 at 10:13 am
BRUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCE!
November 19th, 2009 at 10:14 am
…….17 in a single game or 17 for the season ?
November 19th, 2009 at 10:15 am
um….. there have been 16 games in nfl regular season for as long as i remember. i am 30. how did we go 4-14 twice. how is that possisble? 4+14 is NOT 16
November 19th, 2009 at 10:16 am
M Lonetree Says:
November 19th, 2009 at 10:13 am
Vegas,
I understand that. JRussell might deserve the scrap heap himself from his present work. But, he isn’t somebody else’s discarded trash. He is a young QB with apparently poor work ethic, but he is the Raiders’ young QB. There is no upside to the Frye/Grad combo. Just a waste of time.
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Exactly…now if Kolb was our backup….hmmmm
November 19th, 2009 at 10:18 am
Plain and Simple…Jmac is not prepaired simply because he doesnt prepair.30 mill wont do it maybe benching will
November 19th, 2009 at 10:18 am
hey dakota. pau goes the dynamite
November 19th, 2009 at 10:18 am
4eva, aside from shane lechler, lmfao. who on this team is prepared?
November 19th, 2009 at 10:19 am
Dakota Says:
Uber wealthy my ass.
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Nice, Nice Dakota, you & M Lonetree both supported Granpa Munster & you preach to us about change?
November 19th, 2009 at 10:19 am
oh jon condo, our long snapper. there is a pro bowl talent
November 19th, 2009 at 10:20 am
My favorite vet on the team Ellis seems to be prepared every week.
November 19th, 2009 at 10:20 am
Nnamdi.
November 19th, 2009 at 10:21 am
Condo practices his long snaps all game long. Now that what I call preperation!
November 19th, 2009 at 10:21 am
M
I disagree with you. Jamarcus has not earned the right to play against Cinn or Dallas or Pitt etc.
The back up QB is here for a reason. He may not be starting for a reason, but our current QB is not any better than a back up.
To compete and throw Jamarcus out there, so he gets experience is compounding more problems, than just giving him more experience.
What message does that send to the team, fans and sponsors.
Jamarcus having no motivation, no discipline, no care is all OK, but he is getting experience, not in my eyes.
November 19th, 2009 at 10:22 am
nnamdi is good, but he needs to cover the best wr period. woodson would ALWAYS play other teams best option. only time nnamdi has played a single person, was last year in oak vs kc. he played tony gonzalez up and up all day
November 19th, 2009 at 10:22 am
well off the top ofr my head I’d say Grads and Frye mostly because Cable just said so lol
November 19th, 2009 at 10:23 am
The upside to the Frye/Grad combo is that they are better than Jamarcus. That’s it, they aren’t HOF guys, but those are few and far between anyway. Just get some in there who will put in the work to improve, not only for himself, but as a team.
When your #1 draft pick, face of the franchise QB, lets a journeyman like Bruce not only outwork him, but take his job from him, than the writing is on the wall.
November 19th, 2009 at 10:23 am
M Lonetree Says:
November 19th, 2009 at 10:13 am
Vegas,
I understand that. JRussell might deserve the scrap heap himself from his present work. But, he isn’t somebody else’s discarded trash. He is a young QB with apparently poor work ethic, but he is the Raiders’ young QB. There is no upside to the Frye/Grad combo. Just a waste of time.
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I agree M. The only good that can come from this is if it lights a fire under JaMarcus. Otherwise it is a huge waste of time at this point. Are the Raiders going to make the playoffs? No. So leave the kid in there to take his lumps. The more experience he gains the better as far as I am concerned.
I guarantee that the play calling will change to more high percentage/WCO type of play calls due to Gradkowski’s limitations, which is probably what they should have done with JaMarcus. But Davis/Cable get enamored with his “potential” instead of putting him in a position to succeed.
Prediction: Gradkowski will roll out of the pocket and get creamed by Keith Rivers, knocking him out of the game. JaMarcus comes in and all of a sudden the play calling changes again and everything goes to sh1t.
November 19th, 2009 at 10:24 am
Nnamdi is prepared, but would love to see him get into someone’s face after whiffing a tackle or not lining up properly. I think Routt needs a good slap in the face every now and then. Be a vocal leader on the field Nnamdi.
November 19th, 2009 at 10:24 am
whats the over/under on how many of grads passes get knocked down at line of scrimmage?
November 19th, 2009 at 10:25 am
Have the Al Davis shills sold out the stadium yet?
November 19th, 2009 at 10:25 am
Lechler has to be prepared……he knows he’ll be working all day.
November 19th, 2009 at 10:25 am
RaiderTW Says:
November 19th, 2009 at 10:19 am
Dakota Says:
Uber wealthy my ass.
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Nice, Nice Dakota, you & M Lonetree both supported Granpa Munster & you preach to us about change?
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TW, I respect the libs for pushing through and winning the election…showed nutz…I have no problem with healthy debate and opposing views and change (that is right)…I just have a problem with puzzies like Silvernsmac telling us to shut up and quit because we don’t agree with the owner.
I know you watch Keith, but I am confident you can tell the difference.
And hell yes I supported McCain over the current fool. As the polls show…many of the fooled voters are already regretting their decision to elect Obama lol.
He is who we thought he was!
November 19th, 2009 at 10:26 am
Raider Dell Says:
November 19th, 2009 at 10:21 am
M
I disagree with you. Jamarcus has not earned the right to play against Cinn or Dallas or Pitt etc.
The back up QB is here for a reason. He may not be starting for a reason, but our current QB is not any better than a back up.
To compete and throw Jamarcus out there, so he gets experience is compounding more problems, than just giving him more experience.
What message does that send to the team, fans and sponsors.
Jamarcus having no motivation, no discipline, no care is all OK, but he is getting experience, not in my eyes.”
I happen to disagree with you Dell. But that doesn’t surprise me considering how you handled the music director debalce
November 19th, 2009 at 10:27 am
# Dakota Says:
November 19th, 2009 at 10:09 am
Lol, here we go again, the quitter telling everyone to do what he would do if he felt the same way…quit, lol
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Pretty amusing stuff Dakota.
Exactly which part of “I haven’t missed a snap of Raider football in 31 years” do you equate to being a “quitter”?
Oh I get it. This is what pathetic trolls like you do when you have no legit response to anything.
November 19th, 2009 at 10:28 am
DMAC Says:
November 19th, 2009 at 10:24 am
Nnamdi is prepared, but would love to see him get into someone’s face after whiffing a tackle or not lining up properly. I think Routt needs a good slap in the face every now and then. Be a vocal leader on the field Nnamdi.”
I saw Nnamdi whiff on a tackle last week. I wanted to get in HIS face, very poor technique and completely whiffed.
November 19th, 2009 at 10:28 am
Jmac is not ready for this M Lontree…He simply is not ready.To keep him in there is not the answer.And anyway Stabler rode the pine 4 years,might take Jmac longer or less…who knows???
November 19th, 2009 at 10:28 am
With Bruce starting, the playbook should be opened up. We’ll see if Cable really sucks calling the plays.
November 19th, 2009 at 10:30 am
DMAC Says:
November 19th, 2009 at 10:28 am
With Bruce starting, the playbook should be opened up. We’ll see if Cable really sucks calling the plays.”
Open up or completely change? I expect to see more screens and high percentage plays due to Gradkowski’s limitations.
November 19th, 2009 at 10:30 am
New Englandraider Says:
November 19th, 2009 at 10:24 am
whats the over/under on how many of grads passes get knocked down at line of scrimmage?
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I’d say at least 3 get knocked down.
I’ll tell ya something, after watching a 6-6 260lb QB, watching a guy the stature of Grad is alarming.
November 19th, 2009 at 10:30 am
I’m eager to see.
November 19th, 2009 at 10:31 am
KoolKell Says:
November 19th, 2009 at 10:25 am
Have the Al Davis shills sold out the stadium yet?”
I’ll be there. Not as a shill but as a fan. I have been doing this for years and I am going down the ship…
November 19th, 2009 at 10:32 am
# DMAC Says:
November 19th, 2009 at 10:24 am
Nnamdi is prepared, but would love to see him get into someone’s face after whiffing a tackle or not lining up properly. I think Routt needs a good slap in the face every now and then. Be a vocal leader on the field Nnamdi.
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DMAC – I totally agree with you and have felt the same way for a long time.
I’m tired of quiet leaders. As good as they are, we need more from them in that department.
November 19th, 2009 at 10:32 am
Let’s just run the fk’n wild hog all day w/ Bruuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuce!
Bet the bungholes won’t be ready for that.
November 19th, 2009 at 10:32 am
KoolKell Says:
November 19th, 2009 at 10:30 am
New Englandraider Says:
November 19th, 2009 at 10:24 am
whats the over/under on how many of grads passes get knocked down at line of scrimmage?
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I’d say at least 3 get knocked down.
I’ll tell ya something, after watching a 6-6 260lb QB, watching a guy the stature of Grad is alarming.”
I agree, he looked like Garcia’s little brother, running around like he was late for a very important date.
November 19th, 2009 at 10:33 am
Silver-n-Smac Says:
November 19th, 2009 at 10:27 am
# Dakota Says:
November 19th, 2009 at 10:09 am
Lol, here we go again, the quitter telling everyone to do what he would do if he felt the same way…quit, lol
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Pretty amusing stuff Dakota.
Exactly which part of “I haven’t missed a snap of Raider football in 31 years” do you equate to being a “quitter”?
Oh I get it. This is what pathetic trolls like you do when you have no legit response to anything.
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Hey, I know you wish you could take your words back…you admitted that you are a quitter when things get tough…I am confident you will quit the Raiders soon enough…quitters never grow a spine.
Silver-n-Smac Says:
November 19th, 2009 at 9:18 am
“If I hated something so much, you think I’d be watching? NO WAY. If I felt that there is absolutely NO hope of the Raiders succeeding under Al Davis, you think I would be watching this team? Hell no.
So who’s the real dummy? YOU ARE.”
November 19th, 2009 at 10:34 am
Dakota
Don’t be ridiculous, the Repugnants have been throughly discredited. And quit lying about the polls. Obama would still beat McCain/Palin.
November 19th, 2009 at 10:34 am
# RaiderDogg Says:
November 19th, 2009 at 10:31 am
I’ll be there. Not as a shill but as a fan. I have been doing this for years and I am going down the ship…
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Hey man. . .guys like you and I clearly don’t fit into this blog very well.
Apparently, we are Al Davis biotches & “quitters”.
Just ask Dakota.
November 19th, 2009 at 10:36 am
dmac, nobody is a leader on this team. only one who talks to anybody is gerard warren. u think if gannon was the qb and these scrub wrs were dropping passes, he wouldnt blast there ass verbally. no one on this team does that. STAY THE COURSE FELLAS, STAY THE COURSE.
November 19th, 2009 at 10:37 am
No, just you Silvernsmac, not Raiderdogg.
November 19th, 2009 at 10:37 am
Ahh but Raider Dogg…those “limitations” can be turned into something good.Like~~~
A quick slant or hitting a WR when he hits that seam or on a timing pattern.Jmac didnt see those
November 19th, 2009 at 10:37 am
Dakota:
O.K., let’s try this again:
Exactly which part of “I haven’t missed a snap of Raider football in 31 years” do you equate to being a “quitter”?
I’ve rooted for Rusty Hildger, Marc Wilson, Vince Evans, etc., etc.
That’s enough to make a man jump off a bridge.
And yet. . .
Once again:
I haven’t missed a snap of Raider football in 31 years.
So once again:
Please explain your “quitter” theory.
You’re a spineless little schmuck.
You still never had any legit response to the fact that you willingly continue to root for something you despise.
So go ahead and hide behind your little “quitter” tag for Smac.
Like that warm & fuzzy huh?
November 19th, 2009 at 10:38 am
RaiderDogg Says:
I agree M. The only good that can come from this is if it lights a fire under JaMarcus. Otherwise it is a huge waste of time at this point. Are the Raiders going to make the playoffs? No. So leave the kid in there to take his lumps. The more experience he gains the better as far as I am concerned.
I guarantee that the play calling will change to more high percentage/WCO type of play calls due to Gradkowski’s limitations, which is probably what they should have done with JaMarcus. But Davis/Cable get enamored with his “potential” instead of putting him in a position to succeed.
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First of all, what if it doesn’t light a fire under Jamarcus? Than wouldn’t playing him be a complete waste of time? Experience (approaching 30 career starts) hasn’t done a thing on the field or off. He is getting worse.
More high percentage plays for Bruce? He is way more accurate than Jamarcus, the play-book will open up bro!! Did you see the second SD game? After the first quarter Jamarucs rarely threw the ball more than 5 yards down the field.
November 19th, 2009 at 10:39 am
# Dakota Says:
November 19th, 2009 at 10:37 am
No, just you Silvernsmac, not Raiderdogg.
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Awww shucks Dakota:
That really hurts my “quitter” feelings.
November 19th, 2009 at 10:39 am
The only player I heard comment on the team was Ellis.
“Guys, you can’t stay out all night, can’t expect to come in here and just turn it on,” Ellis was quoted as saying by Paul Gutierrez of the Sacramento Bee. “This isn’t high school or college football. This is the best of the best in the NFL. So you’ve got to do those small things that you maybe didn’t have to do in college.”
November 19th, 2009 at 10:39 am
…….again with the Marc Wilson.
November 19th, 2009 at 10:40 am
know you watch Keith, but I am confident you can tell the difference.
And hell yes I supported McCain over the current fool. As the polls show…many of the fooled voters are already regretting their decision to elect Obama lol.
He is who we thought he was!
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After 11 months you know He is who we thought he was!
Then you say: As the polls show…many of the fooled voters are already regretting their decision to elect Obama lol.
That’s just an out right lie, did you learn that because you’e a Beckerhead?
November 19th, 2009 at 10:40 am
ur right man. nnamdi flat out missed on that tackle. he has at least two plays a game where he is in the backfield can make a play for a negative, and does his missile dile into the other guys ankle. which the ball carrier easily jumps over nnamdi’s shoulder. every game. everybody on this team cannot tackle.
November 19th, 2009 at 10:40 am
Silver-n-Smac Says:
November 19th, 2009 at 10:34 am
# RaiderDogg Says:
November 19th, 2009 at 10:31 am
I’ll be there. Not as a shill but as a fan. I have been doing this for years and I am going down the ship…
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Hey man. . .guys like you and I clearly don’t fit into this blog very well.
Apparently, we are Al Davis biotches & “quitters”.
Just ask Dakota.”
I fit in here ok, although some people can’t stand me, which doesn’t bother me at all. Real MF’ers can get down with me whether we agree or not. Try to keep it in perspective, it’s just a sport. No point in getting all bent out of shape over opinions ya know?
It’s all good, I am in it for the long haul. This is my team and even when I don’t agree with the way things are run, I still go to the games and I still represent when I can. Does that make me a fool? Maybe, but it is who I am and that isn’t about change.
November 19th, 2009 at 10:41 am
Silvernsmac,
I don’t despise the Raiders moron, I despise Al Davis for taking the Raiders down with him.
Please, spare me the Al Davis is the Raiders line…you can do better than that.
November 19th, 2009 at 10:41 am
DMAC
I don’t think this is a broken locker room at all.
I think there are high character guys on this team, pretty much across the board.
Some are immature. Some are young.
But, they’re all good guys.
But, that’s kinda the problem. They’re all “nice” guys.
There’s nobody on this team that even RESEMBLES a Ray Lewis in terms of personality.
Especially on the defensive side of the ball, I’d like to see some visible fire under someone’s ass once in a while.
November 19th, 2009 at 10:42 am
It’s only a game, but it fk’n hurts!
November 19th, 2009 at 10:42 am
Love my Raiders!
November 19th, 2009 at 10:43 am
you’re right silver n smack. id like to see some fire on d as well. PLAY MIKE MITCHELL
November 19th, 2009 at 10:44 am
” I am in it for the long haul. This is my team and even when I don’t agree with the way things are run, I still go to the games and I still represent when I can. Does that make me a fool? Maybe, but it is who I am and that isn’t about change”.
Nicely done.
November 19th, 2009 at 10:44 am
We need someone to step up to the plate and be a vocal leader on and off the field!
November 19th, 2009 at 10:44 am
# Dakota Says:
November 19th, 2009 at 10:41 am
Silvernsmac,
I don’t despise the Raiders moron, I despise Al Davis for taking the Raiders down with him.
Please, spare me the Al Davis is the Raiders line…you can do better than that.
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That’s the whole point. How you can separate Al Davis from the Raiders (unless you go back to 1962) is ludicrous.
Do you actually believe one functions without the other?
If so: You’re clueless.
If not: Then deal with it and just be a Raider fan until things get better, as they always ultimately have.
If you DON’T want to deal with it, not sure what to tell you.
I suppose you could form a group and physically tear down the Alameda headquarters.
Short of that, I’m not sure what sort of “uprising” you’re hoping to achieve.
November 19th, 2009 at 10:45 am
Kool,
Look at this poll, will show you what Dakota is talking about it. Steady stream downwards in popularity since his election.
Life as the incumbent is much tougher than life as the spirtied, upstart electoral candidate.
http://www.gallup.com/poll/113980/Gallup-Daily-Obama-Job-Approval.aspx
(FYI, it took W 3 years to hit 50% on the approval rating (for Gallup). Took BO 7 months. Can’t explain it, but it is a fact)
November 19th, 2009 at 10:46 am
I guarantee that the play calling will change to more high percentage/WCO type of play calls due to Gradkowski’s limitations, which is probably what they should have done with JaMarcus. But Davis/Cable get enamored with his “potential” instead of putting him in a position to succeed.”
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Exactly. Davis’ fantasies of Russell/DHB Bombs completely took the offense out of it’s game.
November 19th, 2009 at 10:47 am
Silver-n-Smac Says:
November 19th, 2009 at 9:18 am
“If I felt that there is absolutely NO hope of the Raiders succeeding under Al Davis, you think I would be watching this team? Hell no.”
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I know you are a little slow silvernsmac, but if that doesn’t scream quitter I don’t know what does, lol.
When the going gets tough, silvennsmac advocates bailing out, lol.
November 19th, 2009 at 10:47 am
For what it’s worth.Over here they’re already talking about a backlash against Obama.
November 19th, 2009 at 10:47 am
Vegas
You may be right, but I think the play calls will be different for Bruce. Play calls that JaMarcus should have been getting. Less vertical, more high percentage plays, for a young qb that is struggling would make too much sense. No let’s take continual shots down field and see how many picks this kid can throw.
Isn’t it strange to you that last year after JaMarcus was benched, when he came back all of a sudden he was much more successful? Clearly he hasn’t changed, so what did? The play calling. The Raiders ran the ball with commitment and were putting JaMarcus in a position to manage the game as opposed to winning it with one pass from his own 10 yard line on the first play of the game.
I don’t know if Cable’s play calling is to blame or if he is just calling the plays that are fed to him. Either way, things won’t look much better until the Raiders at least get a REAL Offensive Coordinator. I bet there are many coaches in the NFL that could help JaMarcus become a better than average QB. The Raiders just don’t appear to know how.
November 19th, 2009 at 10:48 am
RaiderTW,
you have lumped me with our Right-leaning Dakota on politics? Your error is massive in this. Simply because I understand that our current prez is part of the same overall broken system does not mean that I have forgotten that the previous Shrub was the worst semi-elected White House resident this land has ever seen.
The last presidential candidate that I had any affinity for was George McGovern and that was mostly because he was not Nixon. (I do have some old McGovern campaign buttons if you want one.)
At heart I would have to say that I am more of a Scandinavian-type Socialist than anything and that no one involved in US national politics is anything other than a different filter to the same o’ same ol’ of Corporate Oligarchism.
November 19th, 2009 at 10:49 am
vegas raider Says:
(FYI, it took W 3 years to hit 50% on the approval rating (for Gallup). Took BO 7 months. Can’t explain it, but it is a fact)
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But Vegas, do you think GWB gave 2 cr@ps about approvals? Dako is stuck with O for 8yrs, I mean who do ya got up against him? Nailin’ Palin?
November 19th, 2009 at 10:49 am
russell wasnt benched last year. he was injured and missed a game
November 19th, 2009 at 10:50 am
It’s fine to hate Al Davis.
Hell, that’s your prerogative and I have no problem with that.
My problem is that some of you spend so much time doing nothing but hating this, or hating that, that you seemingly have no ability to just be a FAN.
This isn’t politics. It’s not of real-life consequence.
There’s no shame in just being a football FAN and taking the lumps from other fans, until ours heals again.
If you don’t feel it’s ever going to change under the current ownership, my point is simply this:
Why waste your time then?
I personally don’t have a problem with an Al Davis-owned Raider team.
He’s screwed up royally numerous times.
But again – this ain’t real LIFE. It’s football.
So in that context, I still love the aura of the Raiders.
The “mystique”.
The “Just win baby”.
The “Pride & Poise”.
The renegade owner.
The bad boys of football.
That’s what drew me to this team as a little kid.
And I’m not going to let all this negativity strip me of those things that I loved about this team.
Life’s too short to hate all the time man.
Save your real frustrations for things that really matter in this world (like your kids, like your family)
Chill out a bit and enjoy the games for what they are:
Games.
Or not. If you wanna hate, more power to you.
November 19th, 2009 at 10:51 am
wtf with the politics. who gives the fiddles fugg about obama, palin or anyone else. unless one is going to be our gm or start at qb
November 19th, 2009 at 10:53 am
Vegas
The contentious, Health Care debate, taking on Health Insurance Corporations with their bought and paid for congresspeople has taken a toll, sure.
He’s still more popular than Republicans, and as soon as the Bill IS PASSED, the polls go back up.
He’s still personally popular, the American People, according to polls favor the Public Option by 60%, so get over it.
You people drove this country into the ditch, everybody (except you people) recognizes the work needed to get the country our of the ditch.
November 19th, 2009 at 10:53 am
Dakota:
So please explain why I haven’t quit. Could things be any worse over the last 6-plus years?
Whatever dude.
I’M A QUITTER! YES! Haven’t missed a snap in 31 years, but, I’M A QUITTER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
November 19th, 2009 at 10:53 am
new englandraider Says:
November 19th, 2009 at 10:49 am
russell wasnt benched last year. he was injured and missed a game”
That was the company line, one that I did not buy. I think he was fine and they were protecting his psyche after playing like sh1t for 3 games.
November 19th, 2009 at 10:53 am
Dogg,
No doubt play-calls will be different. IMO, Bruce can do more than Jamarcus, I mean really what is Russell’s strength? Throwing to Miller on PA, and when teams shut that down, we have nothing to hang our hat on for a passing game. Jamarcus has a rocket arm, but throws a wobbly deep ball. Even the DHB drop was underthrown (but a good enough throw to get the job done). Bruce will spread the ball the ball around. He was also throw the back-breaking INT as well, but I think he gives us a better chance to compete and rally the troops the rest of the year. If Jamarcus wants to play, he is going to have to earn in the offseason and prove he wants it. At least that’s what I would do.
Trestman and Hackett are more than capable QB developers. Play-calling has been bad at times, but
Cable called a good enough game to win last week.
November 19th, 2009 at 10:54 am
M
Do you happen to have a pin that says: “Why pull out in the middle of a good screw? Nixon in ‘72″?
November 19th, 2009 at 10:54 am
Is there anykind of celebration today for “the Gettysburg address” ?
November 19th, 2009 at 10:56 am
Let’s start Obama at QB!
November 19th, 2009 at 10:56 am
“Save your real frustrations for things that really matter in this world (like your kids, like your family”
Wait. Reading that back, that sounds like I’m advocating beating your kid or your wife!!! LOL
My attempted point was to save your frustrations for things to PROTECT things that matter in this worls (i.e. family)
LOL
November 19th, 2009 at 10:56 am
Silver-n-Smac Says:
November 19th, 2009 at 10:44 am
# Dakota Says:
November 19th, 2009 at 10:41 am
Silvernsmac,
I don’t despise the Raiders moron, I despise Al Davis for taking the Raiders down with him.
Please, spare me the Al Davis is the Raiders line…you can do better than that.
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That’s the whole point. How you can separate Al Davis from the Raiders (unless you go back to 1962) is ludicrous.
Do you actually believe one functions without the other?
If so: You’re clueless.
If not: Then deal with it and just be a Raider fan until things get better, as they always ultimately have.
If you DON’T want to deal with it, not sure what to tell you.
I suppose you could form a group and physically tear down the Alameda headquarters.
Short of that, I’m not sure what sort of “uprising” you’re hoping to achieve.
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Al will be out of the picture eventually, just not soon enough. It may be a shock to you, but the Raiders will go on from there. Football games will continue without him glowering down at the field with those red sagging eyes and that drool towel on his lap.
I am not going to quit following my team simply because the man currently in charge is failing us. He too shall pass, and then we can get back to winning some football games.
November 19th, 2009 at 10:58 am
Is Obama a righty or a lefty ?
November 19th, 2009 at 10:58 am
Dogg & VegasRaider:
I think the Raiders will win more games with Bradkowski, but, I don’t think we’ll be a better team in the long run for it.
Ultimately, Jamarcus either needs to pan out or we need to shop for a new QB.
Unless Grad revives his career like a Gannon or something.
November 19th, 2009 at 10:58 am
Silver/Smac #357
So in other words you have no emotional investment in the Raiders.
You just wannabe part of a long-past “Mystique” that you heard about?
November 19th, 2009 at 10:58 am
Kool,
Time will tell, but I think you will be wrong.
This poll also states that you are also wrong about whether people want the public option
http://www.gallup.com/video/124256/government-responsibility-healthcare.aspx
do you libs ever use facts when discussing?
November 19th, 2009 at 10:59 am
The reason it took so long curious george’s rating 2 fall is because when curious george came into “power” the national dept was paid off and we were in the black.Well well well…Now that we are broke and fighting a war in 2 countries and the american people have the attention span of a gnat and are mostly dumb…thats the reason right there Vegas
November 19th, 2009 at 10:59 am
Dakota says:
Al will be out of the picture eventually, just not soon enough. It may be a shock to you, but the Raiders will go on from there. Football games will continue without him glowering down at the field with those red sagging eyes and that drool towel on his lap.
I am not going to quit following my team simply because the man currently in charge is failing us. He too shall pass, and then we can get back to winning some football games.
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So what you’re saying is that you’re going to continue drowning in sorrow and being pissed all the time, for the next 25 years?
Wow – real healthy outlook for yourself.
November 19th, 2009 at 10:59 am
I don’t quite get it. We brought in Paul Hackett, who’s suppose to be one of the best QB coaches in the league. So is Hackett not doing his job? Or is Jadeadly just too stupid? Or is it a combination of both? Or????????
November 19th, 2009 at 11:00 am
lefty
November 19th, 2009 at 11:00 am
Don’t kill the messenger, 4eva, I am not a fan either. Just providing facts to an often unfactual based convo.
November 19th, 2009 at 11:00 am
“Play-calling has been bad at times, but
Cable called a good enough game to win last week.”
Vegas
I disagree as far as the game that was called. I was at the game last week. 2nd play from scrimmage was a 60 yard run from Michael Bush. He didn’t see the ball again until late in the 2nd quarter cuz the Raiders were too busy trying to get some play action on 1st down, based on 1 successful run. I kept calling for them to give Bush the ball and I wasn’t the only one.
I also noticed that Russell would almost rather throw the ball away than throw it to DHB. That pass that DHB dropped was a perfect post pattern pass that hit him in his hands and he promptly dropped it. Short of JaMarcus catching the ball for him as well, there wasn’t much more the kid could do. Also that pass to Murphy was right on the money until it was negated by a questionable tripping call on Gallery. I saw quite a few drops now that I think about it, mostly catchable passes as well.
November 19th, 2009 at 11:01 am
Dakota:
Not sure why man, but, I actually like you.
I like giving you crap. But, I like you.
I guess we’re both passionate enough to be wasting our time here over a team in a sad state.
I suppose this is some sort of sick form of psychotherapy for us all.
November 19th, 2009 at 11:01 am
hey everyone. i have great news. grads last nfl start. u see these #’s. watch out jamarcus. ok here what grad did his last nfl start. last season. 5-16 18 yards 2 ints. yep he IS better than russell. i was wrong. lets go bruuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuce. 5-16 18 fuggin yards. with braylon edwards, and general winslow was there last yr rifgt?
November 19th, 2009 at 11:02 am
25 years! God wouldn’t do that to us….right God? God? Hello? God please nooooooo!
Listen Silver n smac, I am a Cubs fan, I can outlast Al no problem.
November 19th, 2009 at 11:02 am
If he’s a lefty then our WR’s won’t catch sh!t.
November 19th, 2009 at 11:02 am
debt sorry
November 19th, 2009 at 11:03 am
Vegas, Dakota,
do you really believe every poll? How bout the one that shows people say legalised p@t is more popular than the Republican leaders?
http://yglesias.thinkprogress.org/archives/2009/02/marijuana_legalization_more_popular_than_key_conservative_leaders.php
If this was a popularity contest Glen Beckerhead would be Prez then where would we be?
November 19th, 2009 at 11:04 am
yes legalise pot
November 19th, 2009 at 11:04 am
Not me Vegas!!! just adding the lint ball in my pocket 2 the discussion!!!
November 19th, 2009 at 11:05 am
5-16 18 yrds 2ints?
November 19th, 2009 at 11:05 am
Please legalize it!!!!!
TW, I read Gallup and Gallup only. Been around the longest and the most well-respected.
November 19th, 2009 at 11:05 am
Vegas
That Poll asks the
question about Govt Providing health Care to all.
Not the Public Option
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=aJlgoxuwi0lE&pos=9
November 19th, 2009 at 11:05 am
Silver-n-Smac,
I was in the L.A. Coliseum from 1982-94
1982-86 Section 5 Row 64 Seats 14-17, 1987-91 Section 4 Row 36 Seats 11-14, 1992-1994 Section 6 Row 14 Seats 12-15
Oakland Alameda Coliseum from 1995-98
Section 140 Row 22 Seats 19-22
Where did you sit in L.A. and Oakland. I flew to every home game from 93-98.
But that does’nt make me a better Raider fan than you or Dakota. I think the current Head Coach sucks and Al Davis has to give it up to a younger G.M. and enjoy his last years. Yeah it’s his team but enough is enough.
November 19th, 2009 at 11:07 am
5-16 18 yards 2 ints????????????????????????????????
November 19th, 2009 at 11:07 am
Silver-n-Smac Says:
November 19th, 2009 at 11:01 am
Dakota:
I suppose this is some sort of sick form of psychotherapy for us all.
________________________
That is exactly right. If I don’t come in here and express my feelings on Al and the current state of the Raiders, I might blow a gasket.
To be honest, before I found this blog, I was the type of fan that would break schyt when the Raiders blew a game…now I only occasionally do that, lol, so yeah, I think it helps deal with it. None of us should take this stuff that seriously, but many of us do…just an outlet for our primitive urges.
November 19th, 2009 at 11:07 am
if the play calling changes it will be because we are playing a QB who knows the whole play book and has the ability to change plays at the line of scrimmage.its amazing how some of you continue to give Russell a free pass an try and put his failure on everyone but him.did anyone read where Manning and Bries FORCE their young rec. to stay late so they can get better?did anyone read or hear how Stabler and the WRs would stay and practice until they got it right?from what is reported and insinuated by the coach and others,we are lucky if Russell shows up and puts in a normal days work.until that improves he should ride the pine.
November 19th, 2009 at 11:07 am
5-16 18 yards 2 ints. LOL! who ever is responsible for bringing in talent and depth at every position is doing a great job. Still, I think Grad is gonna be a major improvement over Jaslow.
November 19th, 2009 at 11:07 am
Is today not a special day for Americans ? When I read the Gettysburg address it make my hair stand up.
I’m going to leave you with this promise….
I will give “the last full measure of devotion” to the Oakland Raiders.
Later……
November 19th, 2009 at 11:09 am
New England,
Last game of a miserable season, with a lame duck coach, THE BROWNS, in Pittsburgh future SB champs.
The Browns hadn’t scored a TD for 3 weeks, and aren’t much better this year.
After this week, we will have an appropriate sample to dissect. Week 17 Browns games, coached by Romeo Crennel should almost not count.
November 19th, 2009 at 11:09 am
The excuse was that after the last SB, we were old and needed to retool. Next year will be year 8. Sounds like a socialist 10 year plan.
November 19th, 2009 at 11:11 am
We need to give one of these guys a call…….
Vince Evans
Marc Wilson
Jay Shraoder
Todd Maronovich
Jeff George
Jeff Hosteler
Aaron Brooks
Kerry Collins
Rick Mirer
Barack Obama
November 19th, 2009 at 11:12 am
# exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:
November 19th, 2009 at 11:05 am
Silver-n-Smac,
I was in the L.A. Coliseum from 1982-94
1982-86 Section 5 Row 64 Seats 14-17, 1987-91 Section 4 Row 36 Seats 11-14, 1992-1994 Section 6 Row 14 Seats 12-15
Oakland Alameda Coliseum from 1995-98
Section 140 Row 22 Seats 19-22
Where did you sit in L.A. and Oakland. I flew to every home game from 93-98.
But that does’nt make me a better Raider fan than you or Dakota. I think the current Head Coach sucks and Al Davis has to give it up to a younger G.M. and enjoy his last years. Yeah it’s his team but enough is enough.
**********************************************
ExLA:
I was 7 years old in 1977 and my parents weren’t into sports, so I never got to attend a Raider game in Oakland back then.
When they moved to LA, I drove down twice a year, in my teens, to watch them play. That’s all I could afford to do.
I’ve had season the past 4 years (again – couldn’t afford it prior to that).
As I said before, I haven’t missed a snap in 31 years.
As I said to Dakota: I have no problem with ANYONE’s thought’s about the current state of affairs.
They suck. Who’d be stupid enough to deny that?
I’m not saying I’m any better than you.
And I fully agree with you that Al needs a quality GM to help him out.
My point is that if he does NOT do that, what then?
Are we all to slit our wrists?
No. So there are 2 choices, deal with it and just do your best to enjoy the games, or just don’t watch anymore.
That’s all I’ve been saying all along.
November 19th, 2009 at 11:13 am
Vegas
Most Americans favor the Public Option, including seniors. Repugnant smears notwithstanding, fortunately.
Low & behold the American People by and large have turned away from the Republican white man take all strategy.
http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/2009/06/public-support-for-public-option.html
November 19th, 2009 at 11:13 am
lmao
November 19th, 2009 at 11:13 am
If Grad can put up 200 yds passing and a 50%+ completion percentage it’ll be a major improvement over the POS production of Jaslow.
November 19th, 2009 at 11:13 am
DMAC Says:
November 19th, 2009 at 11:11 am
We need to give one of these guys a call…….
Vince Evans
Marc Wilson
Jay Shraoder
Todd Maronovich
Jeff George
Jeff Hosteler
Aaron Brooks
Kerry Collins
Rick Mirer
Barack Obama
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
That sure raised the hair on the back of my neck.
Please don’t go there.
November 19th, 2009 at 11:15 am
# Dakota Says:
November 19th, 2009 at 11:07 am
Silver-n-Smac Says:
November 19th, 2009 at 11:01 am
Dakota:
I suppose this is some sort of sick form of psychotherapy for us all.
________________________
That is exactly right. If I don’t come in here and express my feelings on Al and the current state of the Raiders, I might blow a gasket.
To be honest, before I found this blog, I was the type of fan that would break schyt when the Raiders blew a game…now I only occasionally do that, lol, so yeah, I think it helps deal with it. None of us should take this stuff that seriously, but many of us do…just an outlet for our primitive urges.
*************************************
O.K. – I get it, and I apologize for taking all that too seriously.
I just hate hearing so much hatred for my team in the media, and it rubs me the wrong way when us fans do it too.
That’s all.
I kinda like to think there’s actually some legitimacy to the term “Raider Nation”.
I like to think that it’s kinda cool for us Raider fans to say Fiokke the rest.
But having said that, I getcha.
Peace out.
November 19th, 2009 at 11:15 am
So, Vegas what does gallup say about the repubs?
November 19th, 2009 at 11:17 am
you’re correct vegas. but didnt pittsburgh rest woodley, harrison and them huys. they played, but not much. romeo crennel is more of a successful coach than cable. both bad head coaches yes. yess they are. dude i hope grad does play well as i have a friend who is a bengals fan coming over to watch it. i just dont think he is the answer. i think grad will put up decent numbers. shils 2nd game etc… chaz will catch 7-10 balls alone, because we’ll see short outs and short crosses, but we’ll still lose. i just hope we beat dallas. made a lot of preseason bets on this game
November 19th, 2009 at 11:17 am
Vince Evans….here you go Raider fans: Vince junior is expected to play at USC during the 2009 season. Al has his stop watch ready for this kid!
November 19th, 2009 at 11:17 am
i vote 4 todd HEROINavich
November 19th, 2009 at 11:18 am
Vince JR?
November 19th, 2009 at 11:18 am
My votes for Jay Shraoder!
November 19th, 2009 at 11:19 am
Kool,
Please don’t ever send me a link to 538.com. Those are biased folks over there, and haven’t been around for more than 5 years.
Rational people use gallup, idealogues use 538, and politico and Rasmussen.
November 19th, 2009 at 11:19 am
Hey Dakota,if you despise Al Davis for taking down our Raiders why don’t you despise George W.for taking down our economy.No,its easier for you to put it on Obama because of your issues and we know what it is.Eight years of nothing and you say nothing.Eight months and you say everything.Please as one Raider fan to another,GET SOME HELP and I mean that.
November 19th, 2009 at 11:19 am
Silver-N-Smac Says:
November 19th, 2009 at 11:12 am
And I fully agree with you that Al needs a quality GM to help him out.
My point is that if he does NOT do that, what then?
Are we all to slit our wrists?
No. So there are 2 choices, deal with it and just do your best to enjoy the games, or just don’t watch anymore.
That’s all I’ve been saying all along.
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What a disgusting thing for a Sports Fan to say. “Accept Losing”
“If there is no struggle there is no progress. Those who profess to favor freedom and yet depreciate agitation…want crops without plowing up the ground, they want rain without thunder and lightening. They want the ocean without the awful roar of its many waters…. Power concedes nothing without a demand. It never did and it never will.”
November 19th, 2009 at 11:20 am
i hated schroeder. hated him. marc wilson too. hey what about wade wilson? remember that bomb he threw for a td to james jett. for a 7-6 win. i say give wade and donald hollas a call. hollas was classic
November 19th, 2009 at 11:20 am
no more politics. pau is baaaaaaaaacccccccccccccccckkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk
November 19th, 2009 at 11:21 am
RaiderTW Says:
November 19th, 2009 at 11:15 am
So, Vegas what does gallup say about the repubs?
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Go look for yourself and learn from a non-biased poll that has been around for 50 years.
November 19th, 2009 at 11:21 am
Yeah I forgot Donald Hollas. He’s a classic.
November 19th, 2009 at 11:21 am
How about Tui? He waited years for a chance, then he got his chance and got hurt in the first game. lol, talk about bad luck!
November 19th, 2009 at 11:21 am
Vegas Raider Says:
November 19th, 2009 at 11:19 am
Kool,
Please don’t ever send me a link to 538.com. Those are biased folks over there, and haven’t been around for more than 5 years.
Rational people use gallup, idealogues use 538, and politico and Rasmussen.
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What do Republicans know about rationality?
November 19th, 2009 at 11:22 am
I’m sorry, but, NO Raider EVER has caused me as many ulcers than Marc Wilson.
That man, after single-handedly losing the playoff game for us to the Jets, came into the locker room and slammed his helmet into his locker.
And do you know what Howie Long’s response was?
“I’m surprised it wasn’t intercepted”.
November 19th, 2009 at 11:22 am
I thought it was Evans who threw the bomb?
Maybe in another game.
November 19th, 2009 at 11:22 am
new englandraider Says:
November 19th, 2009 at 11:20 am
i hated schroeder. hated him. marc wilson too. hey what about wade wilson? remember that bomb he threw for a td to james jett. for a 7-6 win. i say give wade and donald hollas a call. hollas was classic
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that was the game Leo Arguez set the record with like 15 punts wasn’t it?
November 19th, 2009 at 11:22 am
For your edification
November 11, 2009
PRINCETON, NJ — Republicans have moved ahead of Democrats by 48% to 44% among registered voters in the latest update on Gallup’s generic congressional ballot for the 2010 House elections, after trailing by six points in July and two points last month.
November 19th, 2009 at 11:23 am
I don’t know, go ask one Kool.
November 19th, 2009 at 11:23 am
Vegas
538 called the election “exactly”
Republicans got NOTHING right, ok?
November 19th, 2009 at 11:23 am
wilson hit jett for the 7-6 win over sd. but a do remember an evans to jett as well
November 19th, 2009 at 11:24 am
could’ve been vegas. was around the time of leo
November 19th, 2009 at 11:25 am
Vegas I already know that’s why popularity polls are irrelivant!
November 19th, 2009 at 11:26 am
Vegas
Republicans left this country on the verge of COLLAPSE, ok?
We don’t need any lectures from them, ok?
November 19th, 2009 at 11:26 am
Kool,
So did Gallup. Off by about 10 electoral votes.
November 19th, 2009 at 11:26 am
We should also give Greg Biekert a call to help us stuff the run! Now he was a player!
November 19th, 2009 at 11:26 am
OK
November 19th, 2009 at 11:26 am
wilso was bad. i was born in 78 so i only remember a little of him, but i remember enough to know that he was awful
November 19th, 2009 at 11:27 am
jerry rice would probably come in and be our wr coach. that would be awesome. even timmy brown
November 19th, 2009 at 11:28 am
Who the hell is Snjay Lal? Has he ever caught a football in his life?
November 19th, 2009 at 11:29 am
25% of republicans kiss their wife goodbye when they leave the house. while the other 75% kiss their house goodbye when they leave the wife
November 19th, 2009 at 11:30 am
leave jamarcus russell aloonnnnnnneeeeee. you’re lucky he even performed for u bastard$
November 19th, 2009 at 11:30 am
Vegas
You and Dakota are lucky I have to go now. Or I’d thrash you properly, ok?
November 19th, 2009 at 11:31 am
LMAo!!! Now that was funny.
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Silver-n-Smac Says:
November 19th, 2009 at 11:22 am
I’m sorry, but, NO Raider EVER has caused me as many ulcers than Marc Wilson.
That man, after single-handedly losing the playoff game for us to the Jets, came into the locker room and slammed his helmet into his locker.
And do you know what Howie Long’s response was?
“I’m surprised it wasn’t intercepted”.
November 19th, 2009 at 11:31 am
KK
You crack me up
November 19th, 2009 at 11:33 am
Dakota
Hope the wife is doing well. Are you guys going to find out the sex and if it’s a boy will you name him Kobe? I know you wouldn’t name him something stupid like Pau!
November 19th, 2009 at 11:34 am
yeah dakota. go with kobe. how about kwame. go with kwame dakota
November 19th, 2009 at 11:34 am
Who actually thinks playing Gradkowski is going to make a big deal? I would be happy if it did but I just don’t see it. Can anyone convince me that they have seen anything great about this guy? He will run out of the pocket and scramble for positive yards but arm strength is questionable seems like he holds the ball to long. I don’t know? I am open to feedback.
Also, please make football sense none of that Jawarus bulls#!T please!
November 19th, 2009 at 11:34 am
kobe dakota
November 19th, 2009 at 11:35 am
What about Alvin Davis Dakota?
November 19th, 2009 at 11:35 am
Name him Allen.
November 19th, 2009 at 11:35 am
what up 4eva, how you doing?
November 19th, 2009 at 11:36 am
Is that a pic of you Kool, at the link you have in your name?
Sweet!!!!!!!!!!!!!
November 19th, 2009 at 11:36 am
“Al” for short.
November 19th, 2009 at 11:36 am
alvin davis. lofl
November 19th, 2009 at 11:36 am
I bet JaMarcus could give Joey Chestnut and Kobayashi a run for their money next year in the Nathans Hot Dog Eating Contest. He seems to have been in training.
November 19th, 2009 at 11:36 am
Why didn’t we sign Brian Brohm and cut Jamarcus, he was a second round pick and played with M Bush in Louisville, I thought he was decent in college, I didnt even know he was in a practice squad, now the Bills took him, free second round in their pocket. How dumb can AL be, we need some talent in here.
November 19th, 2009 at 11:37 am
Ok Raider Dogg just chillin and you??
November 19th, 2009 at 11:39 am
4eva
I’m good bro, just getting ready to head to Costco.
November 19th, 2009 at 11:39 am
Alvin Jimmy Carter Davis
November 19th, 2009 at 11:40 am
catching any fish???
November 19th, 2009 at 11:40 am
I also like the name Wade.
November 19th, 2009 at 11:41 am
I mean Alvin Jimmy Carter Davis Dakota =)
November 19th, 2009 at 11:41 am
Our boy KoolKell. Looks a lot happier than I thought he would, lol.
Sweet website, gotta give you credit
http://www.move2alameda.com/
November 19th, 2009 at 11:42 am
Haven’t been on the water in a while. Gotta go get a space heater for my mom. She lives in a very warm home but she claims she needs a heater for right next to her bed. She’s a little batty, I am hoping that she doesn’t set her place on fire.
Caught a buzz fish last night, it was huge!
November 19th, 2009 at 11:43 am
vegas raider Says:
November 19th, 2009 at 11:41 am
Our boy KoolKell. Looks a lot happier than I thought he would, lol.
Sweet website, gotta give you credit
http://www.move2alameda.com/”
You didn’t know? KK pimps homes not ho’s!
November 19th, 2009 at 11:44 am
To be honest TrueRaider it is easy to say who we should have taken after the fact. There are a number of QBBs not panning out right now and it is hard to understand why.
Brian Brohm was a good QB at louisville. Bush actually played aginst him for a HS Championship. Bush was the starting QB at the time. Brohm won the championship but not by much. He went to Louisville and played strong but when Bush broke his leg and no running game he really struggled. Many scouts questioned his arm strength and height. So you never know what QBs are really going to be that good. You can’t draft them all.
If there is any hope in Russel look at what Vince Young is doing now in Tenn. I do not buy Chad Johnson’s stuff that much saying how great Russel is but I will say this. Name me the last QB that was successful in NFL history with two starting rookie WRs with questionable hands?
November 19th, 2009 at 11:45 am
that pictures gotta be 30 years old hahahaahaaahahahaahha
November 19th, 2009 at 11:45 am
lmao
Kell you look hella cool!
November 19th, 2009 at 11:46 am
love it when I cathc those Dogg.Man thats gotta be the most populas fish in the world!!!
November 19th, 2009 at 11:48 am
4evaRaider Says:
November 19th, 2009 at 11:46 am
love it when I cathc those Dogg.Man thats gotta be the most populas fish in the world!!!”
No matter how big or small, you never have to throw it back and there is never a limit.
November 19th, 2009 at 11:48 am
I thought of the coolest name. Promise this will be the last one. Name him Alberto and call him “Al”
November 19th, 2009 at 11:49 am
lmao =)
November 19th, 2009 at 11:50 am
Darius McFadden Dakota
November 19th, 2009 at 11:50 am
Off to Costco, have a good day y’all!
November 19th, 2009 at 11:50 am
I thank the God of Jaa 4 that Dogg!!!
November 19th, 2009 at 11:53 am
So many plays never materialized because Jmac couldnt deliver the ball many times.Well I think Grads can connet on those types and then let our horses run
November 19th, 2009 at 12:00 pm
Let’s sign Hanson to the practice field! Maybe then Cable will have the D making some fk’n hits!
November 19th, 2009 at 12:10 pm
Just heard Tim Lincecum won the NL Cy Young in one of the closest votes ever. Cheech was 2nd and Chong was 3rd … or something like that. Dude should be the poster boy for legalization.
November 19th, 2009 at 12:16 pm
Anyone else think we may actually take the Bengals by surprise this week?
- Bengals are coming off a huge win over the Steelers. Letdown city.
- Benson is out.
- It’s a long road game for them.
- Schilens should be back in the flow and will start at WR.
- Gradkowski may be a huge improvement at QB and backup QBs usually do their best in their 1st game coming off the bench since teams aren’t as prepared for them and haven’t had a chance to pick them apart yet and they often inject an offense with at least some fresh optimism.
- Raiders are healthier than they’ve been in awhile.
Not that it matters much in the grand scheme of the season. But it’s nice to steal a win every once in a while.
November 19th, 2009 at 12:17 pm
and people that smoke pot wont succeed huh? bong hits 4 everyone
November 19th, 2009 at 12:18 pm
lets hope so or we’ll be hearing…. cut jadarius mcfadden huffkowski
November 19th, 2009 at 12:23 pm
bank-bank Says:
November 19th, 2009 at 11:19 am
Hey Dakota,if you despise Al Davis for taking down our Raiders why don’t you despise George W.for taking down our economy.No,its easier for you to put it on Obama because of your issues and we know what it is.Eight years of nothing and you say nothing.Eight months and you say everything.Please as one Raider fan to another,GET SOME HELP and I mean that.
________________________
I certainly have no warm-fuzzies for Bush. I voted for him the first time, but not the second time. And please, re-post where I ever blame the current economic crisis on Obama.
I just have a problem with the programs Obama wants to put in place.
Economies go up and down, it is cyclical. It is not Obama’s fault he landed on a downturn and Bush had less to do with a dip in the economy than most libs would like you to believe.
Deregulation of the banking system occurred under the Clinton regime.
November 19th, 2009 at 12:24 pm
Dogg,
It is a boy and his name will be Howie Long Dakota.
November 19th, 2009 at 12:25 pm
…………jabrucarius mchuffski
November 19th, 2009 at 12:26 pm
Gradkowski does not improve the QB spot: plain and simple
November 19th, 2009 at 12:27 pm
Mick Vick will start for us next year, after Jadeadly fails again.
November 19th, 2009 at 12:27 pm
But maybe is the only way JaMarcus understand he needs to work to win the right to be QB
November 19th, 2009 at 12:29 pm
To all of you defending JaGravy ,for the love of god knock it off. Dropped passes? Really? You blame the receivers? Sure, they suck as well and have dropped their fair share of balls.
But…. What games have you been watching? Do you pay attention? To every 1 dropped pass there are 4 to 5 horrible throws. And I mean Pop Warner 12 year old throws. He is atrocious at throwing the damn ball, it takes him 10 seconds for a 5 step drop and has no pocket presence or feel for what is going on around him.
His faults outweigh the faults of others.
November 19th, 2009 at 12:31 pm
Later fellas!
November 19th, 2009 at 12:31 pm
I believe the publicans were the majority in both houses during the Clinton years
November 19th, 2009 at 12:32 pm
out
November 19th, 2009 at 12:32 pm
JaMarcus is VERY inaccurate, but our WR corp (without Schilens)is the WORST in the NFL
The bad news is once Schilens is back, JaMarcus will be in the bench. It looked like they had something going on between them.
November 19th, 2009 at 12:33 pm
Kell
looks a lot like Otis Armstrong 
the BRONCO RB from the 70’s 
November 19th, 2009 at 12:34 pm
I have a good feeling about JaKowski. I dunno how many games we will win but I bet we start enjoying Sundays again. I am betting on a huge improvement over the jaDeadlymanatee.
DHB will start catching footballs and I bet Dmac gets a chance as well.
Raiders 31 Bungholes 17
November 19th, 2009 at 12:37 pm
We have seen the worse QB play in our history this year.
Even if Grad is medicore we will see a huge improvement
November 19th, 2009 at 12:41 pm
4evaRaider Says:
November 19th, 2009 at 12:31 pm
I believe the publicans were the majority in both houses during the Clinton years
__________________________
Oh, so if the President is a dem, then it falls on Congress, but if the Pres is a repub that has Dems in the House his last two years when the economy crashed as Bush did, then it is on the president.
I see, lol.
November 19th, 2009 at 12:41 pm
# new englandraider Says:
November 19th, 2009 at 11:27 am
jerry rice would probably come in and be our wr coach. that would be awesome. even timmy brown
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Except Rice is a total dick. Guy nothing does anything for anyone unless he has a camera attached to it, and it’s trained on him, and only him.
November 19th, 2009 at 12:42 pm
Gotta run 4eva, well talk more about it later…
GOOOOO LAKERS!
November 19th, 2009 at 12:52 pm
Silver-N-Smac Says:
November 19th, 2009 at 11:12 am
And I fully agree with you that Al needs a quality GM to help him out.
My point is that if he does NOT do that, what then?
Are we all to slit our wrists?
No. So there are 2 choices, deal with it and just do your best to enjoy the games, or just don’t watch anymore.
That’s all I’ve been saying all along.========
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No, all you’ve been saying all along is you’re a mouse.
No backbone.
No desire for better.
No gumption to demand better.
Just that you’re a mouse.
You get overcharged at a store? You just thank them.
They overcharge you each visit? You assure them “don’t worry about it, I’ll be back, and won’t say a word.”
EVERYONE HAS A SAY WHEN THEY ARE BEING SCREWED OVER.
Some demand to be heard.
Others, like you, stay in the shadows, just accepting whatever anyone does to them.
November 19th, 2009 at 12:59 pm
silver n smac,
Who died and left you in charge to give disgruntled fans two options? Many of us choose to stay and criticize Al, and make fun of his idiotic supporters, and, we have every right to do it. If you don’t like that, then YOU should leave.
November 19th, 2009 at 12:59 pm
Has Cable been fired yet?
November 19th, 2009 at 1:01 pm
# new englandraider Says:
November 19th, 2009 at 12:32 pm
out
………..
Uh, ok, Jim Rome. 1999 called, and wants their expression back.
November 19th, 2009 at 1:03 pm
The Problem a not JR. Why can JR throw a good pass to Miller, but not the WRs? Who is our WRs coach?
Look at our Play Caller, HC, Oline, WRs, WRs coach, AND THE QB!
November 19th, 2009 at 1:05 pm
Even Michael Irvin knows that, and he is an idiot!
November 19th, 2009 at 1:07 pm
JaMarcus Russell was never given a chance with the offense he’s surrounded by, and the play calling. The bottom line is, and his talents noted, he should not be throwing long passes yet. They should be emphasizing the run, and having JaMarcus work on high percentage pass plays like slants, short roll outs, screens, etc. I know that doesn’t play to his talents. But in the NFL smart quarterbacking is everything, and at LSU, considering the offense they used which relied on the deep pass, he never really got the training to run an NFL offense. He’s training on the job, right now. The problem is, he’s being trained with an offensive gameplan even more archaic than the bomb happy LSU’s. Frankly, I didn’t think either Russell or Quinn were that good to begin with, and thought we should have drafted Calvin Johnson or Peterson in ‘07. I’ve read some reports that Kiffin wanted Johnson and some that Kiffin wanted Peterson. In either case, Al had other ideas.
November 19th, 2009 at 1:11 pm
I’ll be really disappointed if they change the playbook for Gradkowski and give him more high percentage, WCO type pass plays. Because the same should have been done for Russell. Russell and his agent should be angry, too, in this instance, and should consider some tricks up their sleeve to get out of this hell hole and get a fair chance elsewhere in the league.
November 19th, 2009 at 1:11 pm
JR is 22, he is young, talented, but he has:
1- 2 Rookie WRs starting
2- rookie WRs coach
3- rookie HC
4- rookie play caller
5- no Oline
And according to a lot of reports, he has bad Work ethics.
November 19th, 2009 at 1:17 pm
Raider O, it’s quite simple really. The problem is Al Davis. Beginning, and end of story. Coaches come and coaches go. Players come and players go. We have the same BS schemes and the same undermining owner and the same BS draft picks through all of it. For instance, it’s not DHB’s fault he got drafted that high and is being forced into the lineup before he’s even ready. And you know Davis is behind it too since he laid it all out for everyone and expressed his opinion on starting the rookies. He’s said it so no need to argue this point. Either fans are tuned into reality – and I believe most of us are, as evidenced by the attendance and the booing – or they are well-trained Al Davis puppies.
November 19th, 2009 at 1:17 pm
It’s hard to develop any QB with all those issues.
It’s 4 rookies, a very young QB who lacks exp, bad Oline, and a Defense that can’t stop the run trying to compete in the NFL.
This Is A Joke!
November 19th, 2009 at 1:18 pm
Raider O, if they give Gradkowski a more effective playbook with higher percentage passing plays, after sticking Russell with that Flinstones playbook? I wouldn’t blame Russell for having a poor work ethic. There’s a better way to handle it, obviously. But I wouldn’t blame Russell for being discouraged and feeling like giving up. If the Raiders are sabotaging him with an archaic playbook, he has every right to get even with them by just dogging it and laughing all the way to the bank. The Raiders are to blame, whoever’s running them.
November 19th, 2009 at 1:19 pm
JR is 22, he is young, talented, but he has:
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No JaMarcus Russell was born on August 9, 1985.
He’s 24.
November 19th, 2009 at 1:23 pm
I don’t know RealMadden,
JaMarcus is more than halfway through his 3rd NFL season. How long does he have to play before he can throw deep passes?
And I dispute this idea that alot of people seem to have that the Raiders don’t run the ball. I think we’re one of the most run-heavy teams in the NFL in terms of run/pass percentage of plays. Which is incredible when you consider we’re usually trailing and in a must-pass mode. The reality is — as Michael Bush pointed out — you can’t run the ball every play. You have to mix it up. You absolutely have to pass successfully in the NFL. We have just had ZERO passing attack all season.
My biggest gripe with JaMarcus isn’t even the inaccurate throws. Some of his throws, yes, have been horrendous. But many of those throws could have been caught if the WR made a better adjustment on the flight of the ball or basically just caught it when it hit his hands. The bigger problem is the lack of throws to the WRs. JaMarcus just can’t pull the trigger on throws to the receivers. That’s a problem. This is the NFL, guys aren’t going to be running 10 yards in the clear much. You have to be willing to throw it to a guy when he has 1 step on the defender and you better be damn accurate when you do. JaMarcus doesn’t make those throws. He’ll stare down one receiver, almost never get comfortable that the guy is open enough to throw it to, and then check down or get sacked by the time he decides to check down.
I still think JaMarcus could be salvagable. His struggles really have nothing to do with his weight or anything like that. It’s all about mechanics (accuracy) and having the confidence to get the ball downfield to WRs.
November 19th, 2009 at 1:23 pm
# Plunketthead Says:
November 19th, 2009 at 12:34 pm
Raiders 31 Bungholes 17
……..
Put down the crack pipe.
The Bengals are one of the best teams in football.
November 19th, 2009 at 1:23 pm
No One Should Pay For This Cr@p Product!!
People say the NFL is a business, but the Raiders run it like a Zoo!
Give the fans what they paid for! They deserve a better product!
Al,
You are robbing us with this cr@p product. Lower ticket prices to create more value for your cheap, Crap, disfunctional product.
November 19th, 2009 at 1:25 pm
Davis is an idiot. Starting fast 40x rookie receivers with a developing QB and giving them a terrible offense to run, as the cherry on top. What an effing moron!
For as much as many of you hated Kiffin, he was right about bringing Russell along slowly. And he was right about not starting rookie receivers. People see Chaz and Higgins playing well after sitting most of the year and they say “see, should have started them sooner”. MORONS! They played well because they weren’t forced into it and instead were given time to get comfortable. Ocho Cinco even mentioned he wasn’t ready to start as a rookie.
And now we have Murphy, who is the most ready of the 2 rookies, on the bench. You’re a genius Al. Keep it up!
December 21st, 2009 at 8:28 pm
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