Bush to start, but he will he carry the load?
By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Saturday, November 21st, 2009 at 2:44 pm in Oakland Raiders.
Coach Tom Cable has remained noncommittal when asked about how he’ll deploy is three running backs, now that all are reasonably healthy.
Depends on who has the hot hand, down and distance, formations, etc.
With Michael Bush coming off a 119-yard effort against Kansas City, the first time a Raiders running back has gained over 100 yards this season, you’d think he’d be actively campaigning for a chance to see how much damage he can do with a heavier workload.
Bush got his yards against the Chiefs on only 14 carries, the most work he’s had in a game this season. His previous high was 12 carries for 55 yards in the opener.
He leads the Raiders in rushing with 350 yards, is tied with Justin Fargas for the team lead in rushing touchdowns (2) and at 4.5 yards per carry, is ahead of both Fargas (3.7) and McFadden (3.1).
Bush is the only one of the three who hasn’t been hurt, and the only one with a carry above 20 yards and above 40 yards.
I asked Bush this week if there’s a part of him that wants to demand 25 carries to see what happens, or even if he didn’t want to say it, if he felt that way inside.
“Sometimes, but I mean, that’s just not me,” Bush said. “I’ve had to be patient about a lot of things. Even at Louisville, I was behind a couple of guys. The whole leg injury taught me more patience. And now, with three running backs, it’s the same thing. I’m OK with it.”
While Cable has not named a starter for the last two games, Bush expects to be on the field when the game begins and figures the amount of work he gets will correspond to his production.
“I know I’ll be starting and I’ve just got to make the best of my opportunities,” Bush said. “That’s the only thing I can do right now.”
Bush may have derailed his own chance for a bigger role down the stretch when he asked for a breather in the third quarter after his most extended use of the season.
With the Raiders starting at the Chiefs 43, Bush carried on five consecutive plays, gaining 35 yards, and the Raiders reaching the Chiefs 22-yard line. After the fifth carry, a 3-yard run for a first down on third-and-3, Bush asked for a breather, Fargas came in and was stuffed for no gain.
The drive stalled when JaMarcus Russell threw incomplete, a 15-yard screen pass to Zach Miller was called by on a penalty for ineligible lineman downfield, and Russell threw incomplete to Bush on third-and-15.
Sebastian Janikowski followed it with a miss from 45 yards and the drive came up empty.
From the time Bush asked out of the game, he carried only four more times for 15 yards and never had consecutive carries. His two carries in the fourth quarter gained 10 yards.
Cable was enthused at Bush’s early breakaway run, a 60-yarder that was the big play in Oakland’s lone touchdown drive. In the past, Bush’s previous big gainers have come in the fourth quarter.
It also sounded as if Bush had been able to remain in the game on his run of carries, Cable would have kept giving him the ball.
“I would have rode that one,” Cable said. “Five tough runs like that in a row is a pretty good deal.”
One area that’s been largely unexploited has been Bush’s pass receiving skill. He leads the running backs with 14 catches for 83 yards, but that has more to do with the fact that he’s the only one who has played every game other than a concerted effort to get him the ball.
Russell had trouble with touch passes on short circle routes and screens, and if Bruce Gradkowski can feather some of those passes to the 245-pound Bush against corners and safeties, big gains could result.
INJURY REPORT UPDATE
The Raiders added starting strong side linebacker Jon Alston to the injury list with an illness. He is questionable.
Alston split the strong side linebacker position on a rotation basis with Sam Williams against Kansas City. He has had two concussions since Oct. 11 which the club said were minor. He has missed minimal practice time, according to the injury report.
Note: Offensive lineman Paul McQuistan, cut by the Raiders, was signed by Jacksonville. The Jaguars cut safety Brian Russell to bring him aboard.
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November 21st, 2009 at 2:54 pm
Go Raiders
November 21st, 2009 at 2:54 pm
28-17 Bengals over Raiders
November 21st, 2009 at 2:55 pm
Uconn blew it….they had 3 timeouts and settle for a 38 yarder????
Maybe saved Charlie Weiss’ job, and that means us betors can continue to make money of this idiot.
3 cheers for the missed Uconn FG!!!!!!
November 21st, 2009 at 2:57 pm
I think the yards per carry shows how our 3 RB’s should be on the depth chart.
Bush, Fargas and Darren
November 21st, 2009 at 3:13 pm
Bye-Bye Charlie Weiss!!!!! It’s been fun
November 21st, 2009 at 3:19 pm
Bush should have been the starting running back since the beginning of last year. Only an incredibly stupid football team would take this long to make him the starter.
November 21st, 2009 at 3:21 pm
ND is still bowl eligible. The Toilet Bowl.
November 21st, 2009 at 3:24 pm
# vegas raider Says:
November 21st, 2009 at 3:13 pm
Bye-Bye Charlie Weiss!!!!! It’s been fun
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Don’t say bye. Say hi. Weis will be the next coach of the Oakland Raiders.
November 21st, 2009 at 3:31 pm
Raider75 Says:
November 21st, 2009 at 3:24 pm
# vegas raider Says:
November 21st, 2009 at 3:13 pm
Bye-Bye Charlie Weiss!!!!! It’s been fun
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Don’t say bye. Say hi. Weis will be the next coach of the Oakland Raiders.
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No way, with his stubborness, dink and dunk style of offense. Plus Al has always been a USC homer, and they have just pounded ND almost every year Weiss was there.
November 21st, 2009 at 3:35 pm
I cant believe a RB in the NFL has 2 come out 4 a breather in the 1st half
November 21st, 2009 at 3:40 pm
The only thing is Gradkowski’s height seemed like a liability. Compared to Russell dude’s a midget, and it showed in the KC game. He got a couple of balls batted down…Our o-line men tower above him.
November 21st, 2009 at 3:41 pm
I have to say among all the chaos and depression that comes with being a Raider fan, has been turned around (at least this week) with the inspiration of a fired up Bruce Gradkowski. I think it will be contagious, Raiders should put up a fight!
November 21st, 2009 at 3:43 pm
Thank God M.Bush and his recieting hair line are starting! Watch out! Bush 150 yards rushing W/ a Td
November 21st, 2009 at 3:44 pm
Now if we only had even a mediocre return game…
November 21st, 2009 at 3:46 pm
JLH better do something back there this week on punts. I’m not even talking TD’s, just catch every ball (don’t let them bounce 15 yards passed you) and give me one 15 yard return and I would be happy.
On kickoff’s…..anything past the 25 yard line is a bonus.
November 21st, 2009 at 3:46 pm
The Raiders can still win the AFC west (that is if both San Diego and Denvers planes crash in the next couple weeks)
November 21st, 2009 at 3:48 pm
Holland is a joke and JLH is soooooo scard, dude’s hearing foot steps coming from all directions.
November 21st, 2009 at 3:48 pm
I think JLH should be bagging groceries
November 21st, 2009 at 3:50 pm
Mcfadden for KR… oh wait do we want the other team to start with good field position every time THEY kick off? soory Mcfumble,next!
November 21st, 2009 at 3:50 pm
*sorry
November 21st, 2009 at 3:52 pm
The Browns only have one “name” on offense and that name is Josh Cribbs, They might as well get rid of him and start from scratch. They did get rid of Edwards and winslow. I know Al would pay Cribbs well!
November 21st, 2009 at 3:57 pm
I hope this Miller kid can handle both punts and kicks. Otherwise a mid-round pick might be in order, because Holland and JLH have been terrible this year.
What’s up with the Raiders and our punt returners lately? Both Buchanan and JLH looked great one year, returning multiple punts for TD’s, than they become AWFUL the next year. How does that happen?
November 21st, 2009 at 4:00 pm
Not suer about Buchanon but after JLH took that decent hit earlier in the season he just hasn’t been the same.
Miller may be the answer (I hope) but hasn’t been placed on IR earlier in the season is beyond me. Why take up the roster spot?
November 21st, 2009 at 4:01 pm
(why he hasn’t been placed on IR)
November 21st, 2009 at 4:07 pm
Raiders won’t go MJD route, but they will go the MGD route, as in Miller Genuine Draft- the bottom of the barrel. Seems appropriate considering they both suck-unfortunetley I may add.
November 21st, 2009 at 4:43 pm
Bush has shown to be the powerhouse, reminiscent of Tyrone Wheatley. Fargas is good for spell but really hasn’t shown that much this year. SitDMC (not quite running is he?) was supposed to be our Charlie Garner to Bush’s Wheatley. We can only hope he blossoms into a Reggie Bush next year.
November 21st, 2009 at 4:45 pm
Whats the over/under on number of posts Jerrys blog gets tonight?
Lets set the number at 125
I will take the under and KK/MR to make more posts then all other posters combined for 500.
November 21st, 2009 at 4:52 pm
this country tried a couple of Bush eras. the first a dirty ex-CIA chief with no lips to read no matter what he said, and the second a has-been no-account election thief with non-wisdom as his Biblical proportion sidekick.
Thr Raiders on the next hand offer a Bush era of their own. A fine idea. Too frikkin’ bad they didn’t understand that before the “Skinny Legs and All” drafting of a place that should have been an O-lineman. OH WELL…(Yeah yeah yeah, I know, he had a broken leg, and was therefore an unknown quantity. Still shoulda drafted Clady. As this year, Monroe? Knowshon shoulda been the man. Or Oher. Schyt.)
November 21st, 2009 at 4:54 pm
lol, Plunketthead …
U don’t think Gradkowski stating against Cincy has renewed hope for the Silver and Black? Won’t set a new record for Saturday night postings?
November 21st, 2009 at 4:58 pm
With the injuries we have at LB, it’s a shame that Slade Norris at 245lbs can’t get on the field!
That Noxon kid wasn’t looking too bad either, so you would think that they could at least get up from the practice squad and get in on some STs!
November 21st, 2009 at 5:02 pm
I’d like to see Bryant start at DT with Warren moving to backup.
Meyers over Tony Stewart.
Mitchell needs to play in front of Hiram Eugene.
November 21st, 2009 at 5:09 pm
Sorry to digress from Raiders but….
wow, did you guys see that ole miss and lsu ending? LSU coach Les Miles may have just nuked his own team. If you thought Cable was clueless, you have to watch this highlight on bspn. with 1 second left, Les Miles called for his team to spike the ball rather than bring on the FG unit at the 10 yard line. wow.
November 21st, 2009 at 5:17 pm
Its mostly old fools like myself that can delude themselves into having high hopes over the prospects of a short QB like Kowski.
He will throw his share of interceptions but I hope he scores some points too, gets the crowd and the team fired up, at least show us glimpses of what we are dieing to see.
So I will lay it all on the line again tomorrow. I will wake up, shower, put on my 13 dollar wall mart special long sleeve Raider shirt and expect to send the bengals home crying about what a fricking arse whuppin Kowski’s Raiders laid on them.
Best game ever!!
Untill we beat the cowbilches on T-day
November 21st, 2009 at 5:35 pm
God bless you, Plunketthead.
This really is the dumbest team in football, but at least they finally figured out that Fargas and J Russell are not the answer.
Now if they can start drafting linemen in the first round, we might be good someday.
November 21st, 2009 at 5:41 pm
I was looking at our roster, Kirk.
LT, LG, and C are pretty muched locked in.
What are the plans for Langston Walker?
RG in not worthy of a 1st rd pick.
On the defensive side of the ball, Shaugnessy has RE locked up, Bryant is a player, and Scott is a nice player as well.
The question is Kelly since Bryant seems poised to replace Warren.
Unless you plan on cutting Kelly, I can’t see Oline or Dline with the 1st round pick.
November 21st, 2009 at 5:48 pm
1st round pick should be a stud right tackle
November 21st, 2009 at 5:48 pm
With Stan Routt on his way to free agency, and no one behind him at corner, don’t be surprised if we go corner round 1.
Personally, I think we need to go with an impact LB in the first round. Unless of course Slade Norris or Nixon turn out to be something.
November 21st, 2009 at 5:54 pm
Engineer,
I wonder what the plan is for Langston Walker?
I’d have to see that first round pick spent on an Olineman that can’t get on the field. I’m starting to think the only thing that is going to get Cable to move Green out of the starting lineup is an injury.
November 21st, 2009 at 5:59 pm
JHill,
This team needs a freekn playmaker on the front 7. That means a linebacker or DT in the 1st round.
Of course, Al Davis will be making the pick so the pick will most likely fail. I have no confidence in Al Davis ever making the right decision. He’s incompetent!
Just like with the QB. Seems everyone here forgets/forgives the guy who picked him!
November 21st, 2009 at 6:01 pm
Langston Walker was foisted upon Tom Cable by Al Davis. Walker doesn’t fit what Cable is trying to do
November 21st, 2009 at 6:02 pm
16, where are you I have these tickets and a the fans autograph session pass. To meet the players and the coaching staff.
I need to get to you. How do you want to get them?
November 21st, 2009 at 6:03 pm
Slade Norris is not an NFL caliber player and had no business being drafted #4. 2009 will go down as one of the worst drafts in a string of terrible drafts.
Davis doesn’t care about linebackers. That was proven when he elected to sign a backup tight end from Boise State to play MLB over Franz Joseph or at least someone who played the position in college.
Afraid the pick will be another cornerback….The next great playah…just like JaMarcus…
Damn shame!
November 21st, 2009 at 6:11 pm
Dang priest, wish I was in Cali.
That would be awesome
November 21st, 2009 at 6:12 pm
Wassup SnB!
As long as the pick is not a QB, I’ll be cool.
I’d have no problem with a LB or DT in the first round. But I just can’t see the Tommy Kelly project coming to an end. And Bryant is a SOLID prospect at DT.
Now LB is an option with Morrison looking at FA, and Brown going down for a 2nd season with injury.
You really have to look at OT and CB though.
November 21st, 2009 at 6:18 pm
Priest can you mail them or are they for tomorrow
November 21st, 2009 at 6:23 pm
Jhill and snb if next year is uncapped most of those players won’t be FA’s
November 21st, 2009 at 6:50 pm
If we went:
1- LB
2- RT (a guy who played RT and will be ready day 1 over there; not a LT convert)
3- DB
3- C/G
And the rest Al’s typical projects, we should fill some holes. But as always, it’s not the positions that we are drafting that is the issue, it is the players.
For everybody that screams that we need to draft for the lines, if we draft Tony Mandarich, Dewayne Robertson and Bid Daddy Wilkinson it would do us zero good.
November 21st, 2009 at 7:04 pm
jhill Says:
November 21st, 2009 at 4:58 pm
With the injuries we have at LB, it’s a shame that Slade Norris at 245lbs can’t get on the field!
That Noxon kid wasn’t looking too bad either, so you would think that they could at least get up from the practice squad and get in on some STs!
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Tom Cable is playin Al like he did last year. We continue to get our butts kicked and when we get to the last few games he will insert these LB’s and may hold the last two opponents to under 50 yds rushing. Al and maybe the rest of us will declare that Cable finally solved the run D and will get another shot to coach next year.
I don’t care how many completions Gradkowski gets for the rest of year. I don’t want Cable next year. The ONLY way Cable stays is if we run the table and win that game on February 7.
November 21st, 2009 at 7:13 pm
16, they are for tomorrow.
November 21st, 2009 at 7:15 pm
where are you
November 21st, 2009 at 7:16 pm
I can leave them at WILL-CALL 4 u, do you have ID or someone that you can use their ID?
November 21st, 2009 at 7:16 pm
I’m at home.
November 21st, 2009 at 7:18 pm
i have a school id
November 21st, 2009 at 7:19 pm
what is will-call
November 21st, 2009 at 7:22 pm
my mom has an id
November 21st, 2009 at 7:23 pm
OK, what is your name on the ID I’ll leave them at will call unless you want to get them tonite..
November 21st, 2009 at 7:26 pm
where is will call and how can i get them tonight
November 21st, 2009 at 7:27 pm
Ok you choose how you want to do it and make sure your mom knows.
November 21st, 2009 at 7:29 pm
I live in Fremont but I’ll meet you half way if you want I would prefer to give them t you tonight that way I don’t have to worry about it. Can your mom give you a ride?
November 21st, 2009 at 7:29 pm
i just told her she said she lost her id so she wants to know how to get them tonight and if we cant get them tonight she could use her friends id
November 21st, 2009 at 7:31 pm
Here is an article from the ESPN ombudsman. It is a half-hearted apology for unfair reporting. Paragraph 2 is about the Tom Cable wife-slapping story.
http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/columns/story?columnist=ohlmeyer_don&id=4667319
November 21st, 2009 at 7:33 pm
we live in fairfield where is halfway
November 21st, 2009 at 7:37 pm
Damn Fairfield is like 1hr. and 30mins. away. The best way is meet me at the mesanine at 12:45 tomorrow ask for priest at will-call on the mesanine letter I.
November 21st, 2009 at 7:41 pm
my mom said we could meet you in emeryville tonight at dennys
November 21st, 2009 at 7:42 pm
What the hell was that Tedford!!!!! A freaking knee with over 2 minutes to go with a 3 point lead???
I have seen it all
November 21st, 2009 at 7:44 pm
vegas especially if you saw the lsu game
November 21st, 2009 at 7:44 pm
Bring the axe back home!!!
November 21st, 2009 at 7:47 pm
16, OK what time? I’mm doing this for you but my sife will kill me she wants to go to the movies.
But I’ll take them there what time?
November 21st, 2009 at 7:48 pm
16, I did, they should have just ran a play at least if not the FG. Spiking it was the most moronic idea possible.
Enjoy the game tomorrow….you better make it happen or I will give you crap forever.
November 21st, 2009 at 7:48 pm
in about 45 min
November 21st, 2009 at 7:49 pm
Done. Ask for Priest I’ll have Raider gear on.
November 21st, 2009 at 7:50 pm
The folks down here are calling for Les Miles’ head.
November 21st, 2009 at 8:00 pm
Vegas and Jhill, I like your thinking.
We need to take a right offensive tackle and a middle linebacker in the first two rounds of the draft.
And never draft anybody based on a 40 time!!!!
November 21st, 2009 at 8:17 pm
“It also sounded as if Bush had been able to remain in the game on his run of carries, Cable would have kept giving him the ball.
“I would have rode that one,” Cable said. “Five tough runs like that in a row is a pretty good deal.”
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What a ****ing moron. Lets ride him till he breaks or gets tired and fumbles.
You’ve got Fargas and you’ve got DMC fresh to rotate and hurry up.
Cable (or Davis) need to adjust and make better use of their assets.
Stupid!
Tired of seeing mismanagement of personal life, play calling, player development, depth charts, check book ect ect.
Makes some GD half time adjustments would ya Cable?!
YOUR THE ONE HANDCUFFING YOURSELF!!!
Run up the gut 5 yds, sweep left 3 yds, stack right, bubble screen left to BEY.
Reverse on Wild Hog from DMC to BEY
November 21st, 2009 at 8:32 pm
Enjoy the Game 16. I hope the Raiders win, so we can all enjoy it but especially you and all the fans there.
November 21st, 2009 at 8:33 pm
1st round, 2010 NFL Draft the Oakland Raiders select…WR Desmond Briscoe, Kansas
Blazing speed. *sigh*
November 21st, 2009 at 8:39 pm
Mays is fast too. Never mind the fact we’ve got Branch and Mitchell. One of them can move to CB…
http://www.nfldraftdog.com/2010-nfl-draft/taylor-mays.html
November 21st, 2009 at 9:01 pm
Ducks beat Arizona in 2OT
November 21st, 2009 at 9:12 pm
I thought I had our draft positioning all figured out for next year — go with the highest-rated defensive lineman/linebacker available, then go O-line 2nd round and best available player from there. But it’s clear that we’ll be starting from ground zero next year, and unfortunately we’ll have to give up one of our three RBs in the process. We just need to build a little momentum — it can start tomorrow: if the Grad Man can at least move the ball (and if Worthless-Bey and Murphy’s Law can at least catch it) we might have ourselves a ball game. A win tomorrow and then again on Thanksgiving would exceed my expectations! Then again, so would seeing JaMarcus lose about 30 lbs. and actually give a rat’s a$%!
November 21st, 2009 at 9:17 pm
Andre Ward wins belt in Oakland tonight.
November 21st, 2009 at 9:50 pm
Congratulations!! to Andre Ward.
Well 16 got his tickets and what a great kid, And a very nice Mom. Have fun 16 and get lot’s of autographs. I might get back there in time to see ya’
November 21st, 2009 at 10:00 pm
You guy’s should know that everybody drafts by way of 40 times. Or else all the great players that run subpar times would go higher or at least get drafted. Try finding an lineman withe a 5.5 40 there are maybe 5 in the league. Try finding a Dlineman who runs the 40 in 5.5 there aren’t any. Try finding a WR that runs a 5.0 there aren’t any if you don’t run a 4.65 as a WR you will go undrafted I don’t care how good you are. TE’s must run a at least a 4.8.
The 40 time is the most watched test in evaluating talent football bar none. So just get half of a clue will ya’.
November 21st, 2009 at 10:01 pm
nice going,Priest.it looks as though you are owed an apology on here but don’t hold your breathe waiting for it.
November 21st, 2009 at 10:05 pm
BTW I would love to get our hands on Des Briscoe he is one hell of a WR.
November 21st, 2009 at 10:07 pm
come on, priest,you know all these experts know more than anyone associated with the Raiders(or any other team for that matter).
November 21st, 2009 at 10:10 pm
Whattup Lefty12! an apology for what?
November 21st, 2009 at 10:11 pm
Oh! I get ya’ Left, whatever they want to believe is up to them I can’t control that.
November 21st, 2009 at 10:12 pm
I like Mays a lot, but we don’t need him. We have Huff, Branch, and Mitchell. We also need help at both lines and LB.
November 21st, 2009 at 10:13 pm
for saying you would try and get tickets for the young man and people mocking your ability to be able to get them.i hope he has a game he can enjoy.
November 21st, 2009 at 10:14 pm
We should play M Mitchell more. Put him on the field in the 1st 2 downs.
November 21st, 2009 at 10:16 pm
actually,we don’t need much help on our D-Line.
November 21st, 2009 at 10:19 pm
Lefty12, all that matters is that I was lucky enough to do something nice for a very nice young man. 16 is now an honorary member of the Raider Nation.
November 21st, 2009 at 10:24 pm
i hope he is a better member than many who post on here claim to be.
November 21st, 2009 at 10:24 pm
Priest, you should have given 16yearold a phonics book, and tell him if he learns how to read he can have free tickets.
November 21st, 2009 at 10:25 pm
Priest, did you meet your 16 year old Raider bro, or did some crack head lady just pull up and say that she was his mom, and take the tickets?
November 21st, 2009 at 10:25 pm
Big ups Priest for takin care of the 16yr old, what comes around goes back around again, so Raiders winning might just be on the horizon, because i know thats one thing you want as much as anybody on here. I read everyday, but I haven’t posted for two years. Your actions I couldn’t ignore. Thanks bro.
You still a little too optimistic bout our situation on the field, but too much optimism is better than…..well
you know because thats 80% of the fans take right now and you can’t really blame them after all the bullshyt of the last 7 yrs……GO r-r-r-raiders.
November 21st, 2009 at 10:27 pm
Why are Cable and Jerry acting like Bush asking to come out after 5 tough runs is absurd? I see RBs around the league take themselves out after that much and less work every week. Who knows, maybe he had the wind knocked out of him or some other mild injury or just knew he wouldn’t be up to full speed for a play or two. Doesn’t seem like something to get all indignant about.
November 21st, 2009 at 10:29 pm
preist didn’t give tickets to any 16 year old. He gave them to a crackhead that posed as a 16 year old on the internet. But it’s ok. enjoy the game tomorrow. I will be on International and 69th tomorrow morning to buy those field passes.
November 21st, 2009 at 10:30 pm
Raider O, Mitchell is demanding that they play him more while it might be difficult to find a way to get him on the field he is leaving them no choice but to do it his enthusiasm for the game is very evident.
Lefty12, I agree they aren’t paying attention our Dline is gelling and right now they are very impressive. That’s right all you naysayers the DT’s you’ve all been ripping for 2 years are playing outstanding football and the two rookies are as good as we could’ve gotten in the 1st rnd IMO. Matt S is hands down the best rookie DE in the league and Dez Bryant whom I said would be a great one is right behind Matt. Those two kids are playing as well as you could ask. The rookie TE is is a find.
Mike Mitchelll and Murphy have both been demanded playing time with their attitudes and approach to the game. I think before the season is over DHB will change some minds and hearts. He is a physical a WR as you’ll ever see, most want to pigeon hole him as a weak speedster, far from it this kid is a football player that just needs time to get comfortable making plays………..period.
November 21st, 2009 at 10:32 pm
preist, please tell me you actually met a 16 year old kid that was dying of something, and gave him the tickets personally. Because I’m telling you this clown who’s been posting here under the name 16yearold is not 16. I think you’ve been had, homie.
November 21st, 2009 at 10:33 pm
We don’t need much help on d-line but there are a lot of really good d-linemen at the top of this draft.
I say that — RB, TE and DB aside — we should go best available player. The o-line could definitely use a stud. The d-line is one of our older units. Unless Gradkowski lights the world on fire over the next 7 weeks QB is probably going to be our biggest need given that it’s 10x more important than any other position on the field. With Schilens’ injury problems we don’t really have a WR we can count on, so even though Murphy’s had a couple of nice moments and DHB was the No. 7 pick, I wouldn’t be opposed to drafting Dez Bryant in the top 10.
November 21st, 2009 at 10:33 pm
Shutup!!
November 21st, 2009 at 10:34 pm
there was no 16 year old present, was there priest? You just gave the tickets to some toothless, crackhead bytch in a festiva, didn’t you?
November 21st, 2009 at 10:38 pm
2 tickets with field passes available on 69th ave, right now, guys. priest gave them away to the crackhead who’s been posting here under the name “16yearoldraider”.
November 21st, 2009 at 10:38 pm
Chris in NY, Boy! yu got that right about the Dlineman. Did you see the DE from Ohio St. today? Did you see the DT from Nebraska?
The draft is RUCH with Dlineman and Oline. You can get quality depth and both lines. Only a few LB’s. Got some very gifted WR’s though. And I love the TE from USC that kid is a superstar.
November 21st, 2009 at 10:41 pm
MR, you call him a crackhead you damn fool. Why can’t you leave peple alone this has NOTHING at all to do with you.
Leave the kid alone.
Nice meeting you 16 keep up the grades………I’m proud of you.
November 21st, 2009 at 10:44 pm
priest, if you really gave tickets to a 16 year old, good for you. I’m just telling you right now, that shyt stain who comments here under the name ‘16yearold’ is not 16. If you gave the tickets to anyone having to do with that clown, you’ve been had. Those tickets are being sold. You’re going to go to the game tomorrow and see two old white guys with those tickets, who bought then on 69th. Guaranteed.
November 21st, 2009 at 10:47 pm
Looks like N orco and B rien scored a couple of field passes. LOL.
November 21st, 2009 at 10:53 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
November 20th, 2009 at 4:07 pm
# KoolKell Says:
November 20th, 2009 at 3:57 pm
Vegas
We’ll see how the earnest, super intelligent, clean-cut, white feller, with proper “American ValUUUU’s, performs on the field Sunday, as the anti-Russell.
……………
LOL.
Spot-on analogy, Kell.
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The Real MaddenRaider Says:
November 21st, 2009 at 10:44 pm
priest, if you really gave tickets to a 16 year old, good for you. I’m just telling you right now, that shyt stain who comments here under the name ‘16yearold’ is not 16. If you gave the tickets to anyone having to do with that clown, you’ve been had. Those tickets are being sold. You’re going to go to the game tomorrow and see two old white guys with those tickets, who bought then on 69th. Guaranteed.
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Racist!
November 21st, 2009 at 11:02 pm
Yow MR
So what you think about tomm? Hey if Grad operates the WCO system that Kiffen had last year, would that be considered changing the playing book or does that mean Cable was handicapped by having JR who cant ding and dang his throws?
November 21st, 2009 at 11:04 pm
# priesttj Says:
November 21st, 2009 at 10:38 pm
Chris in NY, Boy! yu got that right about the Dlineman. Did you see the DE from Ohio St. today? Did you see the DT from Nebraska?
The draft is RUCH with Dlineman and Oline. You can get quality depth and both lines. Only a few LB’s. Got some very gifted WR’s though. And I love the TE from USC that kid is a superstar.
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Priesttj AL wont draft an OL or DL with his first pick, that is reserved to the fastest CB say bye bye to Routt and CJ will play the Nickel while getting paid as a starter
November 21st, 2009 at 11:12 pm
Priesttj says:
I think before the season is over DHB will change some minds and hearts. He is a physical a WR as you’ll ever see, most want to pigeon hole him as a weak speedster, far from it this kid is a football player that just needs time to get comfortable making plays………..period.
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How do you come with this analysis, is that your intuition? DHB is a project everyone said he is a raw talent that will need a year or two to learn the position, are you better than the scouts? Why would you say DHB will come along b4 the season ends? I seriously dont get you man.
November 21st, 2009 at 11:14 pm
# lefty12 Says:
November 21st, 2009 at 11:11 pm
only a racist would equate Russell’s benching to race.any team would bench the 35th rated QB in a 32 team league.it has to do with production,not race.
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JR is benched cause he cant throw short passes as Jerry said “Russell had trouble with touch passes on short circle routes and screens, and if Bruce Gradkowski can feather some of those passes to the 245-pound Bush against corners and safeties, big gains could result.”
November 21st, 2009 at 11:17 pm
Doesn’t that mean he wasn’t as productive as he should be?
November 21st, 2009 at 11:20 pm
For the first time since week 2, I feel we have a big chance to win, I am excited about Grad starting, disappointed hearing Gruden and Shanahan were interviewed for the Bills position, even Trestman name is even mentioned, Homlgren might go to Cleveland or Seattle, People we might win tomm but please sign the petition.
We need change we can believe in. Sign the petition.
MessagetoAl.com
November 21st, 2009 at 11:21 pm
# lefty12 Says:
November 21st, 2009 at 11:17 pm
Doesn’t that mean he wasn’t as productive as he should be?
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Yep, it means he sucks bad. But we need change from the top not just JR.
November 21st, 2009 at 11:28 pm
DHB,McFadden,Russell,Huff,Gallery-i don’t understand the fixation with the old man drafting the fastest CB in every draft class.it just isn’t true.
November 21st, 2009 at 11:31 pm
Russell struggles are cinsistent with most young QB’s he was being asked to do something most QB’s wouldn’t be great at. He is also very immature which really is the worst part of it. He is easily the most talented QB we have and the coaches know it but he wasn’t doing what they wanted done on a consistent basis. SDo they benched him which what will eventually happen to Grad IMO. This guy a disaster waiting to happen I’d much rather see Frye. But he could prove me wrong. So we’ll see I’ve watched this guy play and he has a long way to go but he will involve the WR which is why he is starting.
November 21st, 2009 at 11:31 pm
It will be once he drafts the new Fabian Washington and the new Routt.
November 21st, 2009 at 11:36 pm
Priesttj
Jamarcus doesn’t play hungry, bad accuracy, can’t learn the playbook, doesn’t seem to care about the fans, everything and anything wrong you could think about when you talk about a QB, JR has it. NO WAY IN THE WORLD does Russell struggles is similar to most young QBs. Vince Young won the Offensive rookie of the year, Jay Cutler became a pro bowler, Matt Ryann and Flacco too. Yeah and yeah I know they played with a team with better talent. Then blame AL for not providing that talent and for JR not putting on the work like all those other QBs who could have done what JR has done.
November 21st, 2009 at 11:37 pm
Sign the petition Priesttj if you love the Raiders.
MessagetoAl.com
November 21st, 2009 at 11:37 pm
Everybody drafts fast players. You cannot win in this league without them and it is the one skill you cannot teach speed.
I’d like someone to name one team that doesn’t draft speed. They all do…………..period
November 21st, 2009 at 11:39 pm
when he drafted Wash. and Routt we needed CBs.Priest-Leaf,A.Smith,Schuler,A. Ware,etc. were all talented QBs who were exceptional coming out of college.we all know what one does in college doesn’t always carry over to the next level.so far Russell has done nothing to show his success in college will carry over to this level.in fact,so far the opposite seems to be the case.
November 21st, 2009 at 11:47 pm
If Buffalo snags Gruden, you only have Al Davis to be disappointed with. Gruden should have been hired the minute Tampa fired him. Tampa only fired him late because they didn’t want anyone else to get him, especially Al. How embarrassing that would have been. The Glaziers are cutting back financially. Don’t any of you think it’s funny that when they were trying to get Gruden, they were first trying to get Parcells? Then when they fire Gruden, they hire a young guy with zero experience? What happened to the high rollers going after the parcells of the world? They’re going cheap, and that’s why Gruden was gone. And, gruden was likely set up to fail, in that regard. Gruden is a real coach and he is a hot commodity. If Buffalo signs him, they have Al Davis to thank, for letting his pride get in the way of his common sense and settle on some 5th rate offensive line coach that no college team would even hire as HC.
November 21st, 2009 at 11:51 pm
# priesttj Says:
November 21st, 2009 at 11:37 pm
Everybody drafts fast players. You cannot win in this league without them and it is the one skill you cannot teach speed.
I’d like someone to name one team that doesn’t draft speed. They all do…………..period
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uh, yeh, priest, it’s just that other teams draft players that can tackle and catch balls, too.
November 21st, 2009 at 11:57 pm
Just as you guys say Gradkowski gives us a better chance to win than Russell, the WCO playbook gives any quarterback, ANY quarterback, no matter what kind of arm, a better chance to succeed than the bed and breakfast that Russell was forced to play with. You guys say it was for Russell’s arm? OK…why not a more current version of a deep passing offense? The run and shoot? anything! Russell was given a 40 year old playbook, for crying out loud. I don’t care if Russell was throwing short passes into the dirt as well as long ones. Give him another short passing play on second down, not a deep passing play right into coverage! Also, we have not run the ball nearly enough for a qb as junior as Russell.
BTW, I never said Russell was benched because he was black. That’s the thing about idiots like Lefty, they like to raise those strawmen. He just wanted an opportunity to give his sanctimonious, uneducated, elmer fudd view on race. Oh, it’s about his performance, you say? Well, thank you, you enlightened one, you. I’ve got news for you: It’s about neither.
Also..I never said Russell was great, either. And, he not being great was all the more reason to give him a conservative playbook, so he can take baby steps and learn how to play this game at the NFL level. This guy was sabotaged, period.
November 22nd, 2009 at 12:04 am
Al did this. He wants everybody to get excited for the new quarterback so he can put butts in the seats because he saw the empty stadium an didnt like it.
November 22nd, 2009 at 12:04 am
Grad throws 3 picks tomorrow, we lose by at least 14. I hope the camera catches Russell laughing at some point. You chumps deserve to see it.
November 22nd, 2009 at 12:19 am
Right on Russell getting a screw job because its Cable who held out and missed his first training camp and blew his whole first season its Cable who showed up fat and outta shape and its Cable who throws passes that get the wr killed and more Russell excuses?
November 22nd, 2009 at 12:28 am
From the fryin pan to the fire baby! Al seen it. Jamar cant keep this trash heap from stinkin any worse. Get out the picks boys and start a picken and a shovelin. we done hit rock bottom.
November 22nd, 2009 at 12:31 am
MR
I doubt JR was sobotaged. Yes playcalling was bad but we can’t run the ball when teams r stacking the box forcing JR to win it with his arm. JR doesn’t know the playbook, he only focuses on half the field, how many plays u think is in half a field? Too predictable, Cable is an idiot plus Al kept forcing JR to start if I m him I would have benched him after the Houston game. MR why keep defending JR he is not motivated to win?
November 22nd, 2009 at 4:12 am
I can’t blame players anymore. Its Al Davis that drafts these losers way ahead of where they should be.
How come the Raiders keep ending up with these busts!?!
Russell, McFadden, DHB, Huff, Gallery, Washington, Brayton, Mitchell and on and on and on.
November 22nd, 2009 at 4:17 am
The number 4. That is the number of 1st or 2nd round picks that contributed anything to the Raiders since 1999…In other words they were not busts:
Janikowski
Asomugha
Howard
Miller
4 freekn players and ONE OF THEM IS A KICKER.
Al Davis drafted JaMarcus Russell #1. Not me, not MR, not Dakota or DKnight….Al DAvis drafted him.
Al Davis drafted Darren McFadden and Michael Huff and Mike Mitchell….or the great playah DARIUS HEYWARD-BEY.
Why is it that the Raiders attract these players that don’t work hard….
Why not be the team that gets a Cushing or Michael Oher? or Phil Loadholt?…nope we keep getting disappointment after disappointment.
November 22nd, 2009 at 4:19 am
Good Morning NATION!!!
November 22nd, 2009 at 4:21 am
Just keeping things in perspective here.
Now, for the game. I better see those intermediate and deep play calls. I better out routes etc…
I better not see the small ball….give Gradkowski the same playbook Russell had.
Tom Cable is the offensive coordinator….LOL
November 22nd, 2009 at 4:21 am
Like the old commercial says…
NO MAN STANDS SO TALL AS WHEN HE STOOPS TO HELP A CHILD
Thats a CHAMPION thing you did Priesttj!!!
GOD BLESS YOU
November 22nd, 2009 at 4:25 am
And then there are others who hate themselves and everyone because there lives are empty and over and they know it
November 22nd, 2009 at 4:42 am
Until Davis relinquishes control…I just see more JaMarcus Russell’s, Darius Heyward-Bey’s, Michael Huff’s, Darren McFadden’s and Robert Gallery’s in our future.
Is Davis going to change the way he drafts? Picks free agents? Acquires coaches?
THAT’S WHY THIS TEAM IS ABSOLUTE TRASH right now!
November 22nd, 2009 at 4:43 am
Raider fans have been stricken with the Chicago Cubs disease….an affinity and almost love for the “lovable loser”
I, for one, find this entire situation disgraceful.
7 years and no improvement on the horizon.
Will someone get to Davis and please explain to him that THIS IS HIS FAULT AND THAT HIS BAFFOONERY IS KILLING HIS LEGACY AND THIS FRANCHISE
November 22nd, 2009 at 4:57 am
Its not like Russell didn’t come to the combine out of shape?
And if he can’t read defenses and has no awareness…THEN WHAT THE HELL DID THEY ASK HIM IN THE INTERVIEW?
Al Davis makes egregious errors year after year after year. How does a prospect QB look SOOOOOOOO BAD that it defies explanation.
Every top pick on this team is absolute garbage.
Someone explain to me when this ends?
21 busts out of 24 1st & 2nd round picks since 1999
Unacceptable!
November 22nd, 2009 at 5:52 am
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Raiders Draft History
2009
1. Darrius Heyward-Bey, WR, Maryland
2. Mike Mitchell, S, Ohio University
3. Matt Shaughnessy, DE Wisconsin
4a. Louis Murphy, WR, Florida
4b. Slade Norris, LB, Oregon State
6a. Stryker Sulak, DE, Missouri
6b. Brandon Myers, TE, Iowa
2008
1. Darren McFadden, RB, Arkansas
4a. Tyvon Branch, DB, Connecticut
4b. Arman Shields, WR, Richmond
6. Trevor Scott, DE, Buffalo
7. Chaz Schilens, WR, San Diego State
The Raiders chose LSU QB
JaMarcus Russell with the 1st
overall pick of the 2007 NFL
Draft.2007
1. JaMarcus Russell, QB, LSU
2. Zach Miller, TE, Arizona State
3a. Quentin Moses, DE, Georgia
3b. Mario Henderson, OL, Florida State
3c. Johnnie Lee Higgins, WR, UTEP
4a. Michael Bush, RB, Louisville
4b. John Bowie, CB, Cincinnati
5a. Jay Richardson, DE, Ohio State
5b. Eric Frampton, S, Washington State
6. Oren O’Neal, FB, Arkansas State
7. Jonathan Holland, WR, Louisiana Tech
2006
1. Michael Huff, S, Texas
2. Thomas Howard, LB, Texas-El Paso
3. Paul McQuistan, OL, Weber State
4. Darnell Bing, S, USC
6. Kevin Boothe, OL, Cornell
7a. Chris Morris, C, Michigan State
7b. Kevin McMahan, WR, Maine
The Raiders chose Texas safety
Michael Huff with the 7th
overall pick in the 2006 NFL
Draft.2005
1. Fabian Washington, CB, Nebraska
2. Stanford Routt, CB, Houston
3a. Andrew Walter, QB, Arizona State
3b. Kirk Morrison, LB, San Diego State
6a. Anttaj Hawthorne, DT, Wisconsin
6b. Ryan Riddle, LB, California
6c. Pete McMahon, OT, Iowa
2004
1. Robert Gallery, OT, Iowa
2. Jake Grove, C, Virginia Tech
3. Stuart Schweigert, S, Purdue
4. Carlos Francis, WR, Texas Tech
5. Johnnie Morant, WR, Syracuse
6a. Shawn Johnson, DE, Delaware
6b. Cody Spencer, LB, North Texas
7a. Courtney Anderson, TE, San Jose State
2003
1a. Nnamdi Asomugha, CB, California
1b. Tyler Brayton, DE, Colorado
2. Teyo Johnson, TE, Stanford
3a. Sam Williams, DE, Fresno State
3b. Justin Fargas, RB, USC
4. Shurron Pierson, LB, South Florida
5. Doug Gabriel, WR, Central Florida
6. Dustin Rykert, T, BYU
7a. Sideeq Shabazz, S, New Mexico State
7b. Ryan Hoag, WR Gustavus Adolphus
The Raiders chose Iowa tackle
Robert Gallery with the 2nd
overall pick in the 2004 NFL
Draft.2002
1a. Phillip Buchanon, CB, Miami, Fla.
1b. Napoleon Harris, LB, Northwestern
2a. Langston Walker, OL, California
2b. Doug Jolley, TE, BYU
5. Kenyon Coleman, DE, UCLA
6a. Keyon Nash, DB, Albany State (Ga.)
6b. Larry Ned, RB, San Diego State
7. Ronald Curry, QB, North Carolina
2001
1. Derrick Gibson, S, Florida State
2. Marques Tuiasosopo, QB Washington
3. DeLawrence Grant, DE, Oregon State
5. Raymond Perryman, S, Northern Arizona
6. Chris Cooper, DE, Nebraska-Omaha
7a. Derek Combs, RB, Ohio State
7b. Ken-Yon Rambo, WR, Ohio State
2000
1. Sebastian Janikowski, K, Florida State
2. Jerry Porter, WR, West Virginia
4. Junior Ioane, DT, Arizona State
5. Shane Lechler, P, Texas A&M
7a. Mondriel Fulcher, TE, Miami (Fla.)
7b. Cliffton Black, DB, S.W. Texas State
The Raiders chose CB Nnamdi
Asomugha in the first round of
the 2003 NFL Draft.1999
1. Matt Stinchcomb, T, Georgia
2. Tony Bryant, DE, Florida State
4. Dameane Douglas, WR, California
5a. Eric Barton, LB, Maryland
5b. Roderick Coleman, LB, East Carolina
6. Daren Yancey, DT, BYU
7. JoJuan Armour, LB, Miami (Ohio)
1998
1a. Charles Woodson, CB, Michigan
1b. Mo Collins, T, Florida
2. Leon Bender, DT, Washington St.
3. Jon Ritchie, RB, Stanford
4. Gennaro DiNapoli, G, Virginia Tech
5a. Jeremy Brigham, TE, Washington
5b. Travian Smith, LB, Oklahoma
7a. Vince Amey, DE, Arizona State
7b. David Sanders, DE, Arkansas
1997
1. Darrell Russell, DT, USC
3a. Adam Treu, G, Nebraska
3b. Tim Kohn, G, Iowa State
4. Chad Levitt, RB, Cornell
6a. Calvin Branch, CB, Colorado St.
6b. Grady Jackson, DT, Knoxville
1996
1. Rickey Dudley, TE, Ohio State
2. Lance Johnstone, DE, Temple
5. La’Roi Glover, DT, San Diego State
6. Tim Hall, RB, Robert Morris
7a. Sedric Clark, LB, Tulsa
7b. Darius Smith, C, Sam Houston St.
7c. Joey Wylie, G, Stephen F. Austin
1995
1. Napoleon Kaufman, RB, Washington
2. Barret Robbins, C, TCU
3. Joe Aska, RB, Central State
4. Mike Morton, LB, North Carolina
5a. Matt Dyson, LB, Michigan
5b. Jeff Kysar, T, Arizona State
6. Eli Herring, T ,Brigham Young
1994
1. Rob Fredrickson, LB, Michigan St.
2. James Folston, DE, NE Louisiana
3. Calvin Jones, RB, Nebraska
4. Austin Robbins, DT, North Carolina
5. Roosevelt Patterson, G, Alabama
7. Rob Holmberg, LB, Penn State
LB Greg Biekert was a 7th
round steal in 1993.
1993
1. Patrick Bates, S, Texas A&M
3a. Billy Joe Hobert, QB, Washington
3b. James Trapp, CB, Clemson
5. Olanda Truitt, WR, Mississippi S.
7. Greg Biekert, LB, Colorado
8. Greg Robinson, RB, NE Louisiana
1992
1. Chester McGlockton, DT, Clemson
2. Greg Skrepenak, T, Michigan
5. Derrick Hoskins, S, So. Mississippi
6. Tony Rowell, C, Florida
7a. Curtis Cotton, S, Nebraska
7b. Kevin Smith, RB, UCLA
10. Alberto White, LB, Texas Southern
12. Tom Roth, G, Southern Illinois
1991
1. Todd Marinovich, QB, USC
2. Nick Bell, RB, Iowa
4. Raghib Ismail, WR, Notre Dame
6. Nolan Harrison, DT, Indiana
8a. Brian Jones, LB, Texas
8b. Todd Woulard, LB, Alabama A&M
9. Tahaun Lewis, CB, Nebraska
10. Andrew Glover, TE , Grambling
12. Dennis Johnson, CB, Winston-Salem
1990
1. Anthony Smith, DE, Arizona
2. Aaron Wallace, LB, Texas A&M
4. Torin Dorn, CB, North Carolina
6. Marcus Wilson, RB, Virginia
7. Garry Lewis, CB, Alcorn State
8. A.J. Jimerson, LB, Norfolk State
9. Leon Perry, RB, Oklahoma
11a. Ron Lewis, WR, Jackson State
11b. Myron Jones, RB, Fresno State
12a. Major Harris , QB ,West Virginia
12b. Demetruis Davis, TE, Nevada-Reno
1989
2. Steve Wisniewski, G, Penn State
6a. Jeff Francis, QB, Tennessee
6b. Doug Lloyd, RB, North Dakota St.
8. Derrick Gainer, RB, Florida A&M
9. Gary Gooden, WR, Indiana
10. Charles Jackson, DT, Jackson St.
WR Tim Brown holds every
major Raiders receiving record.1988
1a. Tim Brown, WR, Notre Dame
1b. Terry McDaniel, CB, Tennessee
1c. Scott Davis, DE, Illinois
4. Tim Rother, DT, Nebraska
5. Dennis Price, CB, UCLA
6. Erwin Grabisna, LB, Case W. Reserve
7. Derrick Crudup, DB, Oklahoma
8. Mike Alexander, WR, Penn State
9a. Reggie Ware, RB, Auburn
9b. Scott Tabor, P, California
10. Newt Harrell, G, West Texas State
11. David Weber, QB, Carroll College
12. Greg Kunkel, G, Kentucky
1987
1. John Clay, T, Missouri
2. Bruce Wilkerson, T, Tennessee
3. Steve Smith, RB, Penn State
4. Steve Beuerlein , QB, Notre Dame
7. Bo Jackson, RB, Auburn
9. Scott Eccles, TE, E. New Mexico
10a. Rob Harrison, RB, Sacramento St.
10b. John Gesek, G, SacramentoSt.
10c. Jim Ellis, LB, Boise State
11a. Chris McLemore, RB, Arizona
11b. Mario Perry, TE, Mississippi
RB Napoleon McCallum was
named to the college football
Hall of Fame in May of 2002.1986
1. Bob Buczkowski, DE, Pittsburgh
3. Brad Cochran, CB, Michigan
4a. Mike Wise, DE, U.C. Davis
4b. Vance Mueller, RB, Occidental
4c. Napoleon McCallum, RB, Navy
6. Doug Marrone, T, Syracuse
7. Bill Lewis, C, Nebraska
8. Joe Mauntel , LB, Eastern Kentucky
9. Zeph Lee, RB, USC
10. Jeff Reinke, DE, Mankato State
11. Randall Webster, LB, SW Oklahoma St
12. Larry Shephard, WR, Houston
1985
1. Jessie Hester, WR, Florida State
3a. Tim Moffett, WR, Mississippi
3b. Stefon Adams, DB, East Carolina
4. Jamie Kimmel , LB, Syracuse
5. Dan Reeder, RB, Delaware
6. Rusty Hilger, QB, Oklahoma State
7a. Kevin Belcher, T, Wisconsin
7b. Mark Pattison, WR, Washington
7c. Bret Clark, DB, Nebraska
7d. Nick Haden, C, Penn State
8. Leonard Wingate, DT, So. Carolina St.
9. Chris Sydnor , DB, Penn State
10a. Reggie McKenzie, LB, Tennessee
10b. Albert Myres , DB, Tulsa
11. Steve Strachan, RB, Boston College
12. Raymond Polk, DB, Oklahoma St.
1984
2. Sean Jones, DT, Northwestern
3. Joe McCall, RB, Pittsburgh
5. Andy Parker, TE, Utah
6. Stacey Toran, S, Notre Dame
7. Mitch Willis, DE, SMU
8. Sam Seale, WR, Western State
11. Gardner Williams, CB, St. Mary’s
12. Randy Essington , QB, Colorado
1983
1. Don Mosebar, T, USC
2. Bill Pickel, DT, Rutgers
3. Tony Caldwell, LB, Washington
4. Greg Townsend, DE, TCU
5. Dokie Williams, WR, UCLA
7. Jeff McCall, RB, Clemson
8. Mike Dotterer, RB, Stanford
9. Kent Jordan, TE, St. Mary’s
10. Mervyn Fernandez, WR, San Jose St.
11. Scott Lindquist, QB, No. Arizona
1982
1. Marcus Allen, RB, USC
2a. Jack Squirek, LB, Illinois
2b. Jim Romano, C, Pittsburgh
3. Vann McElroy, S, Baylor
4. Ed Muransky, T, Michigan
5. Ed Jackson, LB, Louisiana Tech
7. Jeff Jackson, DE, Toledo
10. Rich D’Amico, LB, Penn State
11. Willie Turner, WR, LSU
12. Randy Smith , WR, East Texas State
1981
1a. Ted Watts, CB, Texas Tech
1b. Curt Marsh, T, Washington
2. Howie Long, DT, Villanova
4. Johnny Robinson, DT, Louisiana Tech
5. James Davis , CB, Southern
9. Cut Mohl, T, UCLA
10. Frank Hawkins, RB, Nevada, Reno
11. Chester Willis, RB, Auburn
12. Phil Nelson, TE, Delaware
1980
1. Marc Wilson, QB, BYU
2. Matt Millen, LB, Penn State
5a. Kenny Lewis, RB, Virginia Tech
5b. John Adams, LB, LSU
5c. William Bowens, LB, North Carolina
7. Malcolm Barnwell, WR, Virginia Union
8. Kenny Hill, DB, Yale
10. Walter Carter, DT , Florida State
11. Mike Massey, LB, Arkansas
12. Calvin Muhammad, WR, Tx. Southern
1979
2. Willie Jones, DE, Florida State
6a. Ira Matthews, KR, ,Wisconsin
6b. Henry Williams, DB, San Diego State
7. Jack Matia, T, Drake
8. Robert Hawkins, RB, Kentucky
9. Jim Rourke, T, Boston College
10. Ricky Smith, DB, Tulane
11. Bruce Davis, T, UCLA
12a. Dirk Abernathy, DB, Bowling Green
12b. Reggie Kinlaw, DT, Oklahoma
1978
2. Dave Browning, DE, Washington
3a. Derrick Jensen , RB, Texas-Arlington
3b. Lindsey Mason , T, Kansas
4a. Maurice Harvey , DB, Ball State
4b Joe Stewart, WR, Missouri
5. Derrick Ramsey, TE, Kentucky
6a. Tom Davis, C, Nebraska
6b. Mike Levenseller, WR, Washington St.
7a. Arthur Whittington , RB, SMU
7b. Earl Inmon, LB, Bethune-Cookman
8. Mark Nickols, LB, Colorado State
11a. Dean Jones, WR, Fresno State
11b. Bob Glazebrook, DB, Fresno State
12. Joe Conron, WR, Pacific
LB Rod Martin went on to win
two Super Bowls with the
Raiders after being chosen in
the 12th round of the 1977 NFL
Draft.1977
2a. Mike Davis , DB, Colorado
2b. Ted McKnight, RB, Minnesota-Duluth
4. Mickey Marvin, G, Tennessee
5a. Lester Hayes , DB, Texas A&M
5b. Jeff Barnes, LB, California
7. Rich Martini, WR, Cal-Davis
8. Terry Robiskie, RB, LSU
12a. Rod Martin, LB, USC
12b. Rolf Benirschke, K, Cal-Davis
1976
2a. Charles Philyaw, DE, Texas Southern
2b. Jeb Blount, ,QB, Tulsa
3. Rik Bonness, LB, Nebraska
4. Herb McMath, DE, Morningside
5. Fred Steinfort, K, Boston College
7. Clarence Chapman, WR, E.Michigan
8a. Jerome Dove, DB, Colorado State
8b. Terry Kunz, RB, Colorado
10. Dwight Lewis, DB, Purdue
11. Rick Jennings, RB, Maryland
12. Cedric Brown, DB, Kent State
13a. Craig Crnick, DE, Idaho
13b. Mark Young , G, Washington State
14. Calvin Young, RB, Fresno State
15. Carl Hargrave, DB, Upper Iowa
16. Doug Hogan, DB, USC
17a. Buddy Tate, DB, Tulsa
17b. Nate Beasley , RB, Delaware
1975
1. Neal Colzie, DB, Ohio State
2. Charles Phillips, DB, USC
3. Louis Carter, RB, Maryland
5. David Humm, QB, Nebraska
7. James Daniels, DB, Texas A&M
9. Harry Knight, QB, Richmond
10. Steve Sylvester, G, Notre Dame
12. Jack Magee, C, Boston College
14. Tom Doyle, DB, Yale
15. Paul Careathers, RB, Tennessee
TE Dave Casper was named
to the Pro Football Hall of Fame in
2002.1974
1. Henry Lawrence, T, Florida A&M
2. Dave Casper, TE, Notre Dame
3. Mark van Eeghen, RB, Colgate
4. Morris Bradshaw, WR, Ohio State
5. Pete Wessel , DB, Northwestern
6. James McAlister, RB, UCLA
7. Rod Garcia, K, Stanford
9. Kenith Pope, DB, Oklahoma
10. Chris Arnold , DB, Virginia State
11. Harold Hart, RB, Texas Southern
12. Noe Gonzalez, RB, SW Texas St.
13. Mike Dennery , LB, So. Mississippi
14. Don Willingham, RB, Wisc.-Milwaukee
15. Greg Mathis, DB, Idaho State
16. Delario Robinson, WR, Kansas
17. James Morris, DT, Missouri Valley
1973
1. Ray Guy, K, Southern Mississippi
2. Monte Johnson, LB, Nebraska
4a. Perry Smith, DB, Colorado State
4b. Joe Wylie, WR, Oklahoma
5a. Louis Neal, WR, Prairie View
5b. Ron Mikalojczyk, T, Tampa
6. Brent Myers, T, Purdue
7. Gary Weaver, LB, Fresno State
8. Mike Rae, QB, USC
9. Steve Sweeney, WR, California
10. Leo Allen, WR, Tuskegee
11. Jerry List, RB, Nebraska
12. James Krapf, LB, Alabama
14. Bruce Polen, DB, William Penn
15. David Leffers, G, Vanderbilt
16. Jerry Gadlin, WR, Wyoming
17. Mike Ryan, C, USC
Speedy WR Cliff Branch won 3
Super Bowl titles with the
Raiders.1972
1. Mike Siani, WR, Villanova
2a. Kelvin Korver, DT, NW Iowa
2b. John Vella , T, USC
3. Mel Lunsford , DE, Central St.
4a. Cliff Branch, WR, Colorado
4b. Dave Dalby, C, UCLA
6. Dan Medlin , DT, North Carolina St.
7a. Alonzo Thomas, DB, USC
7b. Dennis Pete, DB, San Francisco St.
8. Jackie Brown, RB, Stanford
9. Dave Bigler, RB, Morningside
10. Phil Price, DB, Idaho State
11. Joe Carroll , LB, Pittsburgh
12. Kent Gaydos, TE, Florida State
13. Ted Covington , WR, San Fernando St.
14. Dennis Cambal, RB, Wiliam & Mary
15a. Charles Hester, RB, Central St.
15b. Dave Snesrud, LB, Hamline
16. Willie Wright, WR, No.Carolina A&T
1971
1. Jack Tatum, DB, Ohio State
2a. Warren Koegel, C, Penn State
2b. Phil Villapiano, LB, Bowling Green
4. Clarence Davis, RB, USC
5. Bob Moore, TE, Stanford
6. Greg Slough, LB, USC
7. Don Martin, DB, Yale
9. Dave Garnett, RB, Pittsburgh
10a. Bill West , DB, Tennesse State
10b. Tim Oesterling, DT, UCLA
11. James Poston, DT, South Carolina
12. Horace Jones, DE, Louisville
13. Mick Natzel, ,DB, Central Michigan
14. Tom Gipson, DT, North Texas State
15. Andy Giles, LB, William & Mary
16. Tony Stawarz, DB, Miami
17. Chuck Hill, WR, Sam Houston St.
1970
1. Raymond Chester, TE, Morgan St.
2. Ted Koy, RB, Texas
3. Gerald Irons, LB, Maryland State
4. Tony Cline, LB, Miami
5. Art Laster, T, Maryland State
6. Alvin Wyatt, DB, Bethune-Cookman
7. Steve Svitak, LB, Boise State
8. Mike Wynn, DE, Nebraska
9. Ike Hill, ,DB, Catawba
10. Gordon Bosserman, T, UCLA
11. Emery Hicks, LB, Kansas
12. Jerry DeLoach, G, U.C. Davis
13. Don Highsmith , RB, Michigan St.
14. John Riley, K, Auburn
15. Fred Moore, DB, Washington
16. Tim Roth, C, South Dakota State
17. Eric Stolberg , WR, Indiana
November 22nd, 2009 at 5:53 am
I lost both ends of my bet.
The over/under hit at 131 and KK/MR didnt post.
Just my luck
November 22nd, 2009 at 6:02 am
I see where our local gutter rat is still tossing his feces at 16.
MR Dont be a hater. Learn to play nice with others and maybe Priest will get you passes to the autograph session.
Then you can get JR to sign the jersey your mama bought you.
P.S. 16 is more mature and intelligent then you. You lose every encounter you embark upon and This too shall end in failure. It proves to everyone here what a small,dimwitted, feeble and weak excuse for a man that is MR.
That is all
Dont bother responding.
November 22nd, 2009 at 6:06 am
As far back as I can remember Brigham Young has always had good to excellent QB’s.Max Hall earned his 30th victory as the Cougars defeated Air Force yesterday.The Cougars finished 9-2
November 22nd, 2009 at 6:07 am
My Wildcats beat Georgia and put to rest the 7th bulldog mascot.
7 – 4 in the SEC with the fighting Kiffins next up
Lord, you know I dont ask for much and whupping volunteers aint asking much, is it?
So please, please make sure the Blue kicks orange butt.
Thanks
Respond anytime
November 22nd, 2009 at 6:10 am
Plunketthead…
I’m ready!!! Polish Power will win this game lol!!!
November 22nd, 2009 at 6:11 am
MR just texted me and said and he and his mama raced down to Dennys to try to fool Priest into giving them the tickets but they got pulled over and his mama went to jail, again. Something about bar tabs and felony assault.
November 22nd, 2009 at 6:12 am
I sure the hell hope so! We need some hope and a win.
Raiders 24 Bungles 17
November 22nd, 2009 at 6:12 am
Serves em right =)
November 22nd, 2009 at 6:15 am
Ciny’s D is 4real this year…and they are young.Staying the course with Marvin Lewis is paying off.I know lots dont like Cable but ya gotta give him a chance,imo.Plus what he inherited.So stay the course and I’m pretty sure we will as Big Al has never talked so loud as is his silence right now,imo
November 22nd, 2009 at 6:16 am
Kowski seems more like the loud Italian type then a pole.
Funny how growing up there polish jokes related to anything stupid.
I think society and culture has been able to “eradicate” that train of thought.
You never hear polish jokes anymore
November 22nd, 2009 at 6:22 am
wow i just came of a double and living in ct my phone was buzzing wit UCONN beating the irish hey weiss stfu but anyway hey lefty no offense but r u smoking crack? all good organazions build from the inside out r dline is good no kelly is not good fat boy next to him is horrible we got seymour at de and if we dont sign him is gone after 1 season and it costs us a 1st round the rooks r nice but cmon man hey ad wake up step down or step aside and let some1 take control of the offseason drafts and free agents until then we r dommed
November 22nd, 2009 at 6:28 am
I see that Plukk…being Polish my whole life so far…I think I heard em all.Either we ran out of Polish jokes or you are right lol
November 22nd, 2009 at 6:29 am
PluNkk
November 22nd, 2009 at 6:30 am
Polish/Italian…pretty good mixture,imo =)
November 22nd, 2009 at 6:31 am
strong and fiery or fiery and strong…however
November 22nd, 2009 at 6:36 am
Plunketthead Says:
November 21st, 2009 at 4:45 pm
Whats the over/under on number of posts Jerrys blog gets tonight?
Lets set the number at 125
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Pretty good line my friend, the first post after midnight was post #127.
Pretty damn good!!!!!!!!!!!!!
November 22nd, 2009 at 6:39 am
Play JR, Bench Cable, Bench DHB, Bench the WRs Coach, Bench DMC, and Start Mitchell over Eugene!
Good morning Nation.
November 22nd, 2009 at 6:44 am
If Cable is back next year, I will not watch a single game.
My laptop got a virus last week watching the game.
November 22nd, 2009 at 6:45 am
Alpha Virus!
November 22nd, 2009 at 6:46 am
Gradkowski, Bush, and Schilens are starting.
Finally something for me to be thankful for.
Now if DHB is benched, my joy will be complete.
November 22nd, 2009 at 6:47 am
Morning Vegas…Grads hopefully will start hot…if he can connect on them short range passes,man we gotta get Dmac isolated on Rey.Tall order as Rey can read very well.Inside Rey kills Dmac outside Dmac kills Rey.Looks like this game has LOTS 2 offer,imo
November 22nd, 2009 at 6:48 am
What do you mean Raider O??? lol
November 22nd, 2009 at 6:49 am
I got a GREAT IDEA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
If Cable is still Coach next year lets ALL go over 2 Raider O’s place 2 watch the 1st game of the season next year!!!!! You’re Welcome Raider O Bro!!!
November 22nd, 2009 at 6:50 am
SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
November 22nd, 2009 at 4:12 am
I can’t blame players anymore. Its Al Davis that drafts these losers way ahead of where they should be.
How come the Raiders keep ending up with these busts!?!
Russell, McFadden, DHB, Huff, Gallery, Washington, Brayton, Mitchell and on and on and on.
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I get your point SnB, and for the most part you are right, the draft has not been good to use at the top.
But Gallery a bust?? Go look at the draft and find me 3 better O-lineman to come from that draft (I only counted 2). Huff is going to start over 100 games in his career and Washington may as well too, and he is a starter for a top 5 Defense.
Not really busts. Didn’t live up to super-high expectations but not busts. Darren is a bust, Jamarcus is a bust.
November 22nd, 2009 at 6:52 am
4eva,
You have to remember that Darren in space isn’t just going up against the defender, he is also going against that invisible line he always trips over.
And good morning!!
BTW, why are people making a big deal about Bush starting, hasn’t he been named the starter over half the weeks this year and has the most carries on the team. No real news there I thought
November 22nd, 2009 at 7:00 am
Its hard 4me 2 say any player is a bust in there 2nd or 3rd year.The line has been stacked againt our O-line b/c Jmac’s inaccuracies,as we all know.If Grads can complete some passes 2R RB’s…Dmac might just have the best game of his very short career.Dying 2C Dmac in the flats,just dying 2C it
November 22nd, 2009 at 7:01 am
Damn… I 4got about the paint Vegas !!! lmao =)
November 22nd, 2009 at 7:01 am
4eva,
As long as you all bring some smoke, so we can have a NICE session! We will need it!
LMAO
November 22nd, 2009 at 7:03 am
lol Vegas I missed my calling. I cant win bets but I can set lines.
November 22nd, 2009 at 7:08 am
Vegas Raider,
Top 10 picks are supposed to be Pro-Bowl type talent. They are supposed to be difference makers. Guys that get the spotlight during the pre-game show. Guys that the announcer says “he just made yet another great play” “he’s the reason this unit is one of the best in the league”
Robert Gallery is a bust. Number 2 overall means elite player. Not a decent LG! But an elite lockem-up left tackle.
Michael Huff is another guy. Forgetable. We are just happy this #7 overall pick can get on the field…..and that’s barely….he’s not making elite plays….One game does not make a season.
All of the Raiders top talent are busts. How do you pick a QB #1 that can’t read defenses? That’s is so inaccurate? — Did AL DAVIS FREEKN INTERVIEW HIM? WAS THE INTERVIEW OF SUBSTANCE? DID THE STUPID RAIDERS BRAINTRUST (lol) EVEN WORK THE KID OUT PROPERLY?
How about Heyward-Bey? THis franchise is a RANK joke!
Only an incompetent executive like Davis can make mistake after mistake after mistake.
November 22nd, 2009 at 7:10 am
Chris Johnson is a running back.
Darren McFadden is another guy
Good work Davis
November 22nd, 2009 at 7:11 am
Matt Ryan is a quarterback
JaMarcus Russell may go down as the biggest bust ever
Good work Davis
November 22nd, 2009 at 7:12 am
Michael Crabtree and Percy Harvin are wide receivers
Darius Heyward-Bey can’t catch
Good work Davis
November 22nd, 2009 at 7:13 am
Sorry to see Paul McQuistan Gone, he was a real Soldier for the Raiders, I hope for the best to him. He is a power blocker, not much on the cut block schem.
Now I gotta try to trade him on my PS3 madden game…NO im not.
November 22nd, 2009 at 7:14 am
Raider O…that is a given!!!just have the wheel-barrel ready =)
November 22nd, 2009 at 7:14 am
Michael Singletary is a head coach
Tom Cable is our head coach and offensive coordinator
Good work Davis
November 22nd, 2009 at 7:16 am
Yep Big Paul McQ went 2 Jacksonville and we got Barnes…I hope McQ has a great career and wish him well
November 22nd, 2009 at 7:17 am
SnB,
I don’t know man, will you change your tune on Gallery if he makes a pro-bowl or two? Because I think he will.
True that Huff is no Troy P, but I just can’t say bust to a guy who might play 10+ years in the league. Failed to live up to lofty expectations sure. Bust, those are for the Jamarcus Russell’s, Dewayne Robertson, Tony Mandarich types. Guys who come in and are obviously in so far over their head, that they are out of the league in a few years.
I guess we have different views of the word “bust”
November 22nd, 2009 at 7:18 am
Bust It lol
November 22nd, 2009 at 7:19 am
All right of to the Suncoast to get some action for the day…..be back in an hour
November 22nd, 2009 at 7:20 am
Robert Gallery hasn’t made anything yet. I do remember that tripping penalty though.
I don’t like this team’s makeup. Its full of college superstars that are piddling talents in the NFL.
Only 4 top picks have amounted to anything on this team:
Janikowski, Asomugha, Miller, Howard…..one of them is a kicker and the jury is still out on Howard.
This franchise is badly broken at the core.
So broken that hope rests in a guy named Bruce Gradkowski (LOL)
A guy that got cut by Cleveland and Tampa Bay. Two teams that needed QBs themselves
Al Davis is a disaster
November 22nd, 2009 at 7:23 am
Thats our Ace in the hole.SnB…Every QB that got drafted by the Bucs has had a very good career…fact
November 22nd, 2009 at 7:24 am
drafted and let-go I meant 2 say
November 22nd, 2009 at 7:33 am
4evaRaider Says:
November 22nd, 2009 at 7:23 am
Thats our Ace in the hole.SnB…Every QB that got drafted by the Bucs has had a very good career…fact
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The Raiders inability to develop its own talent is why its been a mess the last 20 years.
DAvis doesn’t respect the coaching profession. As a result the Raiders get a bunch piddling coaches like Sanjay Lal, John Fassell and Tom Cable.
Those are the guys in charge of mentoring and teaching and setting the example.
Of course then the coaches get swapped out for another set of losers after a year or so.
Davis is the beginning, middle and end of this utter disaster
Why does Davis consistently attract the Rank Losers that populate this roster.
November 22nd, 2009 at 7:37 am
vegas raider Says:
November 22nd, 2009 at 7:17 am
SnB,
I don’t know man, will you change your tune on Gallery if he makes a pro-bowl or two? Because I think he will.
True that Huff is no Troy P,
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Gallery is an average player…..but its your last statement that really separates the good teams from the Raiders.
Other teams are getting playmakers.
The Raiders roster is devoid of a single playmaker…with the exception of Lechler.
And no, Asomugha is not a playmaker. Why? Because Al Davis’ antiquated system won’t let Asomugha shadow the opposing best receiver.
Disaster! and its just not showing any improvement
November 22nd, 2009 at 7:39 am
I am not trying to be a hater. I think everything I have said is true. My opinion on Davis is obviously my own.
Someone tell me…without huge leaps of faith…where the Raiders are showing improvement that suggests next year will be any different?
We have no QB, WR, C, RG, RT, DT, MLB, SLB, NB and the FS position is shaky.
The coaching staff has to be replaced because, as usual, its incompetent.
I am soooo sick of these Sundays. 7 years and counting and no improvemnet on the horizon.
Unacceptable
November 22nd, 2009 at 7:42 am
How does a JaMarcus Russell happen? How does his laziness, slothfullness, incompetence, inability to read defenses at a high school level, inaccuracy….HOW THE F DOES A TEAM NOT SEE THIS!
The combine, he shows out of shape!
Did they put the kid in front of the chalk board?
What kind of workout did they give him?
What a freekn joke this Raider franchise has become.
November 22nd, 2009 at 7:44 am
Then D-HB comes along. I was saddened when he ran that 4.3 40 at the combine. Because I knew that he instantly got on the radar of Al Davis and his flawed process.
This guy cannot catch! CAnnot run routes! Cannont do anything but run real fast in a straight line.
2nd round…maybe…top 10…that is delusional thinking from the top. And the reason why this franchise can’t win
November 22nd, 2009 at 7:45 am
I wouldnr be suprised 2C…Instead of throwing long ball,throw short ball and let WR run long way.I see the comment that DHB is open and jmac misses him when hes open
November 22nd, 2009 at 7:54 am
I agree with the 408…Pound the Bush Pound the Bush!!!
Then I might add…The RB’s come alive in the passing game!!!Grads can do this,imo.Keep moving the chains;keep the defense fresh.So much can be attained by doing so little,correctly…imo
November 22nd, 2009 at 7:59 am
4evaRaider Says:
November 22nd, 2009 at 7:54 am
I agree with the 408…Pound the Bush Pound the Bush!!!
Then I might add…The RB’s come alive in the passing game!!!Grads can do this,imo.Keep moving the chains;keep the defense fresh.So much can be attained by doing so little,correctly…imo
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Your optimism is admirable. I wish I could share in it. I really do.
November 22nd, 2009 at 8:07 am
By Michael Silver, Yahoo! Sports
Nov 20, 3:31 am EST
There is a better nickname for new Raiders starting quarterback Bruce Gradkowski(notes) than the one my friend Vittorio Tafur of the San Francisco Chronicle (a.k.a. The Fantasy Man) bestowed upon the then-Bucs rookie three years ago.
Mini-Vin Diesel
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The Name Fits. LOL
November 22nd, 2009 at 8:10 am
To tell you the truth SnB…
I been a fan 4 soo long and the winning % of this team has been near the top.I know 7 years seem like a lot 2 many but when you been watching sense ‘64 it kinda puts it all in perspective,imo.We NEVER have done this bad…dont know why because there are just 2 many variables and one bad decision seems 2 lead 2 the next.Maybe its the law of averages or something like that.As much as I wanted Jmac to succeed we rushed him in and payed 2 much,now we got what we get.Jmac;s failure at this point is the icing on the cake,b/c of where he plays and where he was picked.We got the horses and of instead of bombs away we will now let the WR’s catch a accurate pass from the QB and let the WR run.WR’s are open and Grads can hit em.It may take a game or ???? but Grads will have this team moving the chains and thats what we need.Ball-control…fresh defense in 4th qt
November 22nd, 2009 at 8:11 am
Whats up fellas!
So much for Walker being comeback player of the year and Chaz breaking 1000 yards and Russell breaking 3000 right? And this week the Raiders could be mathmatically scratched off the 9-7 prediction. Oh well right?
Raider on!
4-12!!!!
PLAYOFFBUMS!!!
DRINK IT!
November 22nd, 2009 at 8:17 am
Bruce Jaworski will save the day. Raiders haven’t had merely poor QBing this season–it’s almost as if they didn’t have a QB. All they need from Bruce is a McClown type performance and they can be in the game.
November 22nd, 2009 at 8:18 am
I wouldnt be a doing any scratching yet AZ2
DRINK IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
November 22nd, 2009 at 8:19 am
morning all.
November 22nd, 2009 at 8:20 am
Good luck with the Jags McQ !!
November 22nd, 2009 at 8:23 am
lmao Kidseven…I agree we got players and horses’.If Grads can hit the 3-15 yard pass…the doubters will see how close we were the whole time,imo.Maybe Grads isnt the answer or maybe he is who knows??? But whoever it’s going 2B they gonna have 2 fight every fiber of Grads being 2 take it,imo
November 22nd, 2009 at 8:25 am
Hey Hey Neilb!!!
November 22nd, 2009 at 8:26 am
Morning 4eva….
How ya doing ?
November 22nd, 2009 at 8:27 am
A wheel barrell 4eva?
Damn!
November 22nd, 2009 at 8:29 am
SnB,
First of all, you KNOW that you will see a different playbook today. Hackett and Cable are WCO guys, and Grads is a better fit for what they are trying to do. Plus, the mini Garcia scrambling act is something to look forward to as well. I highly doubt you are going to see 4 verticals out of the end zone with Grads back there. For that reason alone, I welcome the change!
November 22nd, 2009 at 8:29 am
hey now i know why the little dwarf gradkowski laughs when he runs….. the grass is tickling his nugget pouch
November 22nd, 2009 at 8:31 am
1st play of the game will be a PA rollout to DHB running a nice 10-15 yd patter.
November 22nd, 2009 at 8:32 am
4eva…
You’re Polish/Italian ?
http://www.nuts.co.uk/4a5dd7379670c/eva-gets-naked
She’s a Pole and her names Eva !!
November 22nd, 2009 at 8:32 am
Man I feel great 2day Neilb!!!
Jhill…I figure if most are like you we prolly need 2 wheel-barrels…just think if we win our 1st game next year we wont leave Raider O’s place till we lose,dont wanna jinx us.Then we could conceivably go undefeated and we cant jinx us so we gotta stay at O’s =)
November 22nd, 2009 at 8:34 am
Jhill,
I was gonna start DHB on my FFT, but CIN DEF has shut down everyone! This game is for 1st place and first round bye againsy vegas raider…. Don’t know if I should do it… What you think? Think DHB gets a TD? Thats all id need from him. 25 yards and a TD and it would be productive enough!
November 22nd, 2009 at 8:34 am
i hope this idiot does better than his 5-16 18 yards and 2 ints performance last nfl start. last yr vs pitts. last game of reg season. 31-0 loss
November 22nd, 2009 at 8:35 am
NO Neilb…I’m Polish/German
November 22nd, 2009 at 8:36 am
4eva…
You can’t mess with a winning streak.
November 22nd, 2009 at 8:37 am
jhill Says:
November 22nd, 2009 at 8:29 am
SnB,
First of all, you KNOW that you will see a different playbook today. Hackett and Cable are WCO guys, and Grads is a better fit for what they are trying to do. Plus, the mini Garcia scrambling act is something to look forward to as well. I highly doubt you are going to see 4 verticals out of the end zone with Grads back there. For that reason alone, I welcome the change!
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What’s up JHill! I agree with you o nthe playbook becoming more of a pure WCO.
But you know, if that is in fact what happens….then you’ve got to question their competence in the first place.
Lane Kiffin was bringing Russell along slowly within a WCO themed offense. In retrospect that was the right decision and his teams were in position to win every one of those games with the exception of the broncos disaster.
Again, no cohesive strategy from the coaching staff and a constant wasting of talent in Oakland.,
A team that is so poor at developing players is going to take a guy like Gradkowski and make him starter material?
I can’t buy it. I’ve bought into a lot as a Raider fan…but history and common sense has given me a spending limit
November 22nd, 2009 at 8:37 am
4eva….
Sorry ’bout that.Must have mis-read.
November 22nd, 2009 at 8:38 am
Hey AZ2…Vegas has already scored hink its 2 late 2 change roster
November 22nd, 2009 at 8:39 am
Yeah, we just need decent accuracy on the short stuff from Bruce. Just think of the games we’ve actually stayed close even with off-the-ja-mark-us throwing. 4eva’s right, watching Bruce is going to prove we probably could’ve had a couple more wins. Of course this is assuming the Raiders show up and play hard–which, surprisingly, they seem to be continuing to do.
November 22nd, 2009 at 8:39 am
No you didnt Neilb…I just said Polish/Italian is a good combo =)
November 22nd, 2009 at 8:39 am
grad is set up for failure. so we can put russell back in against lesser teams late in the year so Cable can say… “See Al, I’m developing your QB. I benched him and he responded! You can’t fire me!”
November 22nd, 2009 at 8:40 am
I’ve never seen Grad play.What kind of a QB is he ?
November 22nd, 2009 at 8:41 am
4eva,
you can move any player around until thier game starts. i’ve been changing my roster around all morning…
November 22nd, 2009 at 8:41 am
lmao #212
November 22nd, 2009 at 8:41 am
Thanks 4eva.I was just starting to get my Moss jersey out again !
November 22nd, 2009 at 8:42 am
4evaRaider Says:
November 22nd, 2009 at 8:10 am
To tell you the truth SnB…
I been a fan 4 soo long and the winning % of this team has been near the top.I know 7 years seem like a lot 2 many but when you been watching sense ‘64 it kinda puts it all in perspective,imo.We NEVER have done this bad…dont know why because there are just 2 many variables and one bad decision seems 2 lead 2 the next
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THat’s cool. I am not, nor will I ever, hate on someone that is cheering for this team to get better. I am doing the same.
My time watching is not as long as yours. I’ve been with them for the last 25 years. And what I have seen is a team that consistently hires poor coaching and reaches in the 1st round.
I remember when Marinovich was drafted. During the draft talk, Chris Berman asked Tom Jackson if anyone with take Marinovich…who left under a cloud of problems early….Tom Jackson says “the Raiders will get him” in a very matter of fact way.
The coaching and the drafting has been mostly bad during the 25 years.
So the team I have seen and grown up with is not necessarily the same as yours. To me this situation is like an exclamation point on 25 years of bad decision making.
But I still cheer for them and hope they win despite the asinine decision making and poor player development/performance
November 22nd, 2009 at 8:43 am
Michael Bush or Bernard Scott? What Raider team shows up today?
DHB or Mario Manningham? What Raider team shows up today?
I NEED THIS WIN!!!!!!!!!!
I should probably sit both my Oakland players
November 22nd, 2009 at 8:44 am
thankx 4 the info AZ2!!!
November 22nd, 2009 at 8:45 am
yezir!
November 22nd, 2009 at 8:45 am
neilb Says:
November 22nd, 2009 at 8:40 am
I’ve never seen Grad play.What kind of a QB is he ?
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No one really knows. This guy played a few games for Tampa and Cleveland and was cut by both.
Its a setback that he’s playing because it means Russell has busted out. And in the NFL, you can’t win without a playnaker at the QB position. The best Gradkowski can become is a poor mans game manager.
Unless he’s been holding back.
We will see what the kid has. Like Tom Cable and his Offensive Coordinator position, I doubt that anyone else in the league has Gradkowski as a starting NFL QB…or even 2nd string.
Reach baby Reach….and wish upon a star!
November 22nd, 2009 at 8:47 am
SNB,
Being cut by Cleveland and Tampa doesn’t say much based on the way those 2 teams scout QB talent LOL. Not like Oakland has been much better.
November 22nd, 2009 at 8:47 am
Grad might be the next Danny Southwick! ….Wait, I mean Tom Brady!!!
9-7!!!
November 22nd, 2009 at 8:48 am
im about to go to sunday school then head out to the raider game special thanks to priest hes a cool dude
November 22nd, 2009 at 8:49 am
AZ Raider2 Says:
November 22nd, 2009 at 8:47 am
SNB,
Being cut by Cleveland and Tampa doesn’t say much based on the way those 2 teams scout QB talent LOL. Not like Oakland has been much better.
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Well, Gruden cut Gradkowski so…..
I am hoping like all hell he gets it done. The Raiders HAVE to beat Dallas…I am in a battle with the NFC EAst fans where I live.
But my head tells me that this isn’t going to work well to win games. I just can’t see it happening.
I am at the lowest point as far as my optimism about this team. Its rudderless right now
November 22nd, 2009 at 8:50 am
AZ Raider2 Says:
November 22nd, 2009 at 8:47 am
Grad might be the next Danny Southwick! ….Wait, I mean Tom Brady!!!
9-7!!!
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Whatever works for you
November 22nd, 2009 at 8:50 am
Neilb…Bruce Gradkowski led Division 1 college QB’s in completion % his senior year at Toledo.I believe he is the only QB Jon Grueden ever drafted.Came in for the Bucs rookie year and led them to a 5-6 record in 11 games.Shuffled around the league.Entering 4th season.Very accurate passer,not a real strong arm but got some zipp.Understands the game so all in all a vast improvement,imo.If Cincy is smart they throw the kitchen sink at him.If Grads is smart we win!!!
November 22nd, 2009 at 8:50 am
yeah EFF-YOU-SEE-KAY the Cowgirls! I definatley want to win that one!
November 22nd, 2009 at 8:51 am
AZ,
All I know is DHB will get about 8 balls thrown his way today. Minimum!
I’m rooting for the kid, but I’m not ready to put a byw week on DHB, lol!
November 22nd, 2009 at 8:51 am
Right now…in all honesty….the Raiders are the worst team in the NFL.
And if not the worst…certainly the bottom 3.
This has become the norm. Whereas I thought they were going to make a step up this year.
Instead, they are right back in 2006 and will have to start all over AGAIN in the offseason
November 22nd, 2009 at 8:51 am
Let us hear you scream 16!!!
November 22nd, 2009 at 8:52 am
4eva.
LOL!
I’m only an hour away from O, so I WILL be going home bruh, lol!
I doubt O will have that “warm bed” available, if you know what I mean.
November 22nd, 2009 at 8:53 am
SnB…
The answer I was looking for was along the lines of he’s a dink and dunk,or likes to scramble around and so on.Your answer and the fact he’s up against this Zimmer D coach leaves me with a very bad feeling….
November 22nd, 2009 at 8:54 am
4evaRaider Says:
November 22nd, 2009 at 8:50 am
Neilb…Bruce Gradkowski led Division 1 college QB’s in completion % his senior year at Toledo.I believe he is the only QB Jon Grueden ever drafted.Came in for the Bucs rookie year and led them to a 5-6 record in 11 games.Shuffled around the league.Entering 4th season.Very accurate passer,not a real strong arm but got some zipp.Understands the game so all in all a vast improvement,imo.If Cincy is smart they throw the kitchen sink at him.If Grads is smart we win!!!
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The only problem I have with your statement here 4eva is that decent…let alone good…QBs are at a HUGE premium.
Yet, the world let this guy sit out there until Hackett recommended bringing this guy in.
What has/will happen that will turn Gradkowski into this game manager?
I just don’t see it
November 22nd, 2009 at 8:55 am
lmao Jhill!!!
November 22nd, 2009 at 8:55 am
on too Jhill’s it is!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
November 22nd, 2009 at 8:55 am
Jhill,
My thoughts exactly… Manningham and Bernard Scott get the start. If the Raiders win today and I don’t get my 1st round bye and DHB and Bush light up the fantasy score board, I win! If CIN runs for 200+ on us and DHB scores another goose egg? Well, I still win!
November 22nd, 2009 at 8:57 am
only 1 hour away Jhill…I used 2 live in sun-city and shopped at that Staters Bro’s all the time
Plumbed almost all those houses in Temecula/mareietta
November 22nd, 2009 at 8:57 am
DHB has dropped too many easy passes for me to get excited about.
Its time to think about 2010 now fellas.
AS with last year, these wins mean nothing as far as transferreing to next year. The only thing they are playing for is to avoid a top 5 pick.
November 22nd, 2009 at 8:58 am
SnB,
I have to buy it. What other choice so I have?
All I can hope for is improvement. Be it JRuss, Cable, DHB, Gradkowski, and everyone else on the team. A play here, a play there, and we have 5 wins this year.
If Cable is going to be here and he’s riding with Hackett, I really don’t want to go through a QB/HC struggle. If Gradkowski is the guy they prefer, then let’s see what he’s got.
I really think they planned on Garcia being here and starting. I think they wanted Russell to sit and learn from Garcia early and then be ready to come in once the injury will all know would have happened came to fruition.
Regardless, we are healthy along the Oline, Chaz is back, and we will have a different playbook. Maybe it’s the kool aid, but I’m anxious to see the game today.
November 22nd, 2009 at 9:03 am
Its a setback that he’s playing because it means Russell has busted out.
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I don’t know about that. Certainly a setback, but Russell will determine if he ends up being a bust.
Look, NO ONE was saying that Russell was headed down bustville at the end of last year. In fact, the talk was making sure the Oline was in solidified to give the kid a chance to get better. Russell got a brand new playbook featuring a system that he is not suited for. He needs to sit and learn it. If he does that, he’ll be fine. If he doesn’t, then there you have it.
November 22nd, 2009 at 9:04 am
Who can say SnB??? We get the rest of the year 2 see him soo we know better by then.I’m just glad that we have a QB that is not overwhelmed and has at least prepaired himself in the correct manner befitting a QB,imo
November 22nd, 2009 at 9:05 am
Not much stands out in the early games.If I was having trouble sleeping I’d watch the Browns/Lions game.
November 22nd, 2009 at 9:07 am
Jhill,
I am trying not to be too negative or otherwise. But, Bruce Gradkowksi? I can’t see how the light is suddenly coming on for this guy. He was cut for a reason by two pretty awful teams that needed QB help.
Personnally, I play Russell so that we can decision him at the end of the year.
If he is as slothful, lazy, incompetent then they should cut him. Seriously.
Yet Russell is still on the roster.
The Raiders need to go sign a veteran like Brian St. Pierre or Sage Rosenfelds. Maybe Jason Campbell.
The team is incapable of developing players at certain positions and the coaching will always be influx with Davis as head coach.
I hope they don’t draft another QB again. Just sign vets looking for a fresh start and hope for the best.
Good luck to Gradkowski….man…that’s tough
November 22nd, 2009 at 9:07 am
I remember when they developed that area, 4eva. Really pissed me off b/c it messed up a lot of the “scenic” golf in that area, lol.
Glad you made a lot of coin though!
November 22nd, 2009 at 9:08 am
4evaRaider Says:
November 22nd, 2009 at 9:04 am
Who can say SnB??? We get the rest of the year 2 see him soo we know better by then.I’m just glad that we have a QB that is not overwhelmed and has at least prepaired himself in the correct manner befitting a QB,imo
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Maybe…..but if Russell is that far behind…he should be cut
November 22nd, 2009 at 9:10 am
yes and no Jhill lol
November 22nd, 2009 at 9:10 am
Jhill,
Russell is in his 3rd year and is playing like someone who never saw the field before.
He’s a bust. Now is it his fault…or how did they get here…that can be debated.
An Al Davis franchise is always going to be weak on coaching and player character.
That’s why they need to find a veteran with some guts and has some potential that other teams value.
I say other teams…because the Raiders are incapable of scouting talent. Too much emphasis on measurables.
November 22nd, 2009 at 9:11 am
For a top draft pick to be as bad as Russell is an indictment on the man that drafted him.
IMO
November 22nd, 2009 at 9:15 am
I think you may be overthinking it, SnB. You have to take some of what Down to the Bay and Vegas say to heart since they obviously have a bit of a pipeline to Russell.
Hackett and Russell CLEARLY don’t have a good chemistry. Something has changed from the end of last year, and we can all feel it. For whatever reason, Hackett prefers Gradkowski over Russell AND Frye. We all said Frye should have at least been #2 since the summer, but oh well.
Remember Jerry saying he observed Hackett grilling all of the QBs on checks and plays, and how good Russell was at it? He almost said it surprisingly, lol.
The bottom line is the QB coach and the QBs need to all be on the same page. Why is Russell having Tuesday film sessions with Frye at his house instead of somewhere with Hackett? I don’t know the answer to that, but those are the things that have me scratching my head.
And if you look at the picture of Russell on ESPN when Williamson talked about the benching, Russell is NOT fat. No where near it.
November 22nd, 2009 at 9:16 am
Its understandable to judge Russell harshly. Emotions and frustrations run high, but he was always a project, his “3″ season is actually more like 2, his wides are unpolished rookies, Davis insists they play, the run game has faltered, the Oline has been spotty and patch work on and on.
Russell hasn’t been putting in the effort apparently, but fuk man, at 23-24 yrs old and dealing with this non sense, how would you be doing?
Once he passes the crucible of fire though, he’ll be bullet proof.
I still got Russell’s back. He’s going to be good once he gets some REAL help and he develops.
November 22nd, 2009 at 9:17 am
Al Crzy Davis is a gambler. For every big win a gambler gets, he ends up being more aggressive and take more bad gambles. For every Bo Jackson and Nnamdi that Al gets he gambles more and more. I will say this SNB if i was to take a #1 overrall pick I would take the biggest possible gamble too. if you’re going to pick the first guy you might as well swing for the fences.
Here’s to hoping for a close and competitive game today. At least our QB can see the entire field.
November 22nd, 2009 at 9:20 am
JHill says:
“And if you look at the picture of Russell on ESPN when Williamson talked about the benching, Russell is NOT fat. No where near it.”
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ESPN, what a joke! I’m switchin cannels and they show a thing about the Raiders and Russell and in the back ground behind him theres some fat slob gropin’ his junk.
F-uh-k you ESPN. we get it. You hate us. We hate you right back.
November 22nd, 2009 at 9:20 am
Russell is in his 3rd year and is playing like someone who never saw the field before.
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Cmon, SnB!
The guy had ridiculous drops and penalties that took AT LEAST 14 pts off the board last week, right? DHBs drop, penalty on the Murphy play, and the Satele penalty bringing back the Miller screen. Make those plays and the game is won.
LMFAO!
Just thinking about how Cable was gloating about the QB play after the Philly game. Telling us all that Russell had been throwing the ball well the past few weeks, but the team wasn’t helping him with the drops. I think it was the Houston game before that where he was saying Russell acutually played well too.
This is PLAIN AND SIMPLE Cable benching Russell for not throwing the ball to DHB. After 2 bad reads, he said, not the 2 bad throws.
Regardless, you’re right. Just piss poor management is what’s causing the whole thing.
But’s that’s still my team, lol!
November 22nd, 2009 at 9:21 am
Jhill,
Hackett was the one that drafted Grad at Tampa. Hackett loves Grad because Grad is most familiar with Hackett’s teaching.
The problem with JR is IMO his lack of dedication to his craft. He’s always been the biggest kid on the field at the every level up to college so Tony Bruno is right when he says that guys like that never had to work really hard at it. Granted our receivers are not helping him out but in this league only get so many chances. When the receiver is wideopen and JR is missing them high and wide is not working either.
November 22nd, 2009 at 9:24 am
It’s about time Russell was told to sit down and watch.
Cable’s been telling him for two years now that he needs to work at his job more and he just hasn’t bothered. Not in the off-season and not during the season.
It’s not enough that he has an arm. In fact if all he’s got is an arm then he should take up bowling.
I was hoping that Charlie Frye would play but any change is good.
Gradowski, unlike Russell, works at his job. The problem might be one of accuracy but I’ve had it with Russell throwing the ball in the dirt in front of an open receiver.
Gradowski is also too short at 6ft 1in but he can scramble better than Russell and brings some motivation to the game.
Again, Frye at 6ft 4in might be a better fit.
It’s gong to be interesting to see how the receivers do now. Maybe the book’s not closed on DHB this year. Now that man’s got motivation.
November 22nd, 2009 at 9:24 am
I think maybe the Raiders are chasing the bet with Russell. Even during his best games, has he done anything to suggest he has the potential to be great? Has he done things only the elite QBs do? Other than one 40 yard bullet on a rope he threw for a TD early in the season–confirming he has some elite physical tools–I’ve not much else to give me hope. He does appears to be sort of streaky in a good way, completing passes in bunches–like at the end of last season–and he’s hit a couple of big throws at critical times, but then even a clock is right twice a day.
Seems to me a QB needs a combination of fire and determination, accuracy, natural ability to sense the rush, ability to read defenses, leadership, and an above average dedication to getting better and winning.
We’re half way into the season and he throwing off his back foot, missing wide-open receivers, and he can’t even reliably hit the dump-off. Regardless of “system” or the quality of his receivers, I’d say he’s either going to bust or be a 5-year project before he’s an average QB.
November 22nd, 2009 at 9:26 am
4evaRaider Says:
November 22nd, 2009 at 8:57 am
only 1 hour away Jhill…I used 2 live in sun-city and shopped at that Staters Bro’s all the time
Plumbed almost all those houses in Temecula/mareietta
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When I was a kid, my dad used to taake the family to Murrieta Hot Springs Resort. He used to love the steam baths. In the summer, the place was hotter than hell. lol
November 22nd, 2009 at 9:31 am
Good morning Nation.
Well, here we go on another hopeful and not woeful (hopefully) Sunday afternoon.
You know, I don’t have much expectation for Grad, but at least it will give us a look at what really is the problem. If he makes some throws, and the WRs are still dropping balls, than it would be hard to say that is all Russell’s fault. However, if the WRs all of a sudden become the second coming of Tim Brown and Jerry Rice, then there might be something there. Though to be fair, a couple more games with the same outcome would be necessary to truly put full blame on Russell.
I do think that with Grad in, we should be using the wildcat, or “wildhog” a bit more. Grad is more athletic and quicker than Russell, so it should be interesting to see how that works. I think both Bush and McFadden are used to throwing the ball, so it might be a good idea to try it. Let’s just hope it doesn’t turn out like last week, with only like 5 or 6 yards gain in 3 plays or so.
Well, that is my two cents for today. No point in discussing the defense, we all know what’s needed there.
Though, I do wonder, could they possibly be making a position switch for Russell from QB to DL?… if he did show flashes of something, was blocking… lol.
November 22nd, 2009 at 9:34 am
In his last 2 seasons Russell’s wides have been…
Javon Walker
Ashlie Lelie
Johnnie Lee Higgins
Drew Carter
Chaz Schilens
Darius Heyward Bey
Louis Murphy
May have missed some but you get the picture…
November 22nd, 2009 at 9:34 am
EM Raiders: Plays too high in his pads. lol!
November 22nd, 2009 at 9:34 am
Off to watch whatever games on tv.Good luck Grad.
Later…
November 22nd, 2009 at 9:35 am
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
November 21st, 2009 at 10:24 pm
Priest, you should have given 16yearold a phonics book, and tell him if he learns how to read he can have free tickets.
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MR, you have no class whatsoever.
November 22nd, 2009 at 9:36 am
It sure is Exla…but I think it beats the hell out of fla. and all this humidity
November 22nd, 2009 at 9:39 am
enjoy Neilb
November 22nd, 2009 at 9:42 am
For those of you thinking we should’ve taken Crabtree over Bey, man, can you imagine what Crab’s attitude would’ve done to Oakland and Russell?
Who knows, maybe a guy screaming the Emperors got no clothes would finally shake things up. Its happened before but Davis usually just ships them out.
Looking for a DT draft prospct for Oakland to pass on next year?
Ndamukong Suh. Compares to…Richard Seymour.
Can U imagine 2 Seymour’s on the field?
Never happen unless Suh manages a sub 4.4 40 though.
I bet Taylor Mays can.
http://walterfootball.com/scoutingreport2010nsuh.php
November 22nd, 2009 at 9:43 am
Man, couldn’t find much to bet on today. A bunch of duds, and they took the Broncos game off the board, as apparently Orton might play now.
So I took the Colts and Vikings. When in doubt, take the undefeated teams. Can’t believe the Colts are only 1 point favorites. Vikings -11.
When I go to the Hilton I think I might take the Raiders with the over. Raiders are 4-5 against the spread this year, which is about how I am picking anyways so might as well say screw it and roll with the squad.
November 22nd, 2009 at 9:43 am
Hope the Raiders run over the Bengals!!!
Score TDs!!!!
November 22nd, 2009 at 9:44 am
A little on 2days starting QB
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COLLEGE: Played in 49 games, 36 starts, for Toledo…Completed 766 of 1,123 passes for 9,225 yards and 85 touchdowns and 27 interceptions while setting 19 school and three conference records, including Toledo marks for most pass completions, yards passing and touchdowns…Rushed for 1,018 yards with 14 touchdowns on 248 rushing attempts (4.1 avg.)…Became the first quarterback in NCAA Division 1-A history to complete more than 70 percent of his passes in consecutive seasons (71.2 in 2003 and 70.2 in 2004)…His career pass completion percentage of 68.2 set a Division 1-A all-time record, breaking the previous mark of 67.1 percent (795 of 1,184) set by Kentucky’s Tim Couch…Earned All-Mid-American Conference first team honors and was named co-recipient of the Vern Smith Award, given to the MAC’s Most Valuable Player, as a senior in 2005…Set a MAC single season record as a sophomore and ranked second in the nation with a 71.2 percent completion rate…Ranked sixth in NCAA Division 1-A with a 161.5 passing efficiency rating…Named honorable mention All-American in 2004 when he ranked second in the nation with 70.2 percent pass completion percentage…Became the seventh player in MAC history to gain more than 10,000 yards in total offense during a career, coming up with 10,243 yards and 99 scores on 1,371 plays…Finished his career as UT’s career leader in touchdown passes (85), completions (766) and passing yards (9,225)…Also holds the Toledo all-time records for passing efficiency (156.61), passing yards per attempt (8.21 avg.), touchdown pass percentage (7.57 percent) and 300-yard passing games (nine)…Ranked seventh on the all-time MAC list in passing yardage and fourth in touchdown passes…Majored in Business Marketing.
PERSONAL: Earned all-state and “Fab 22 Team” honors from the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette in junior and senior seasons at Seton-La Salle (Pittsburgh, Pa.) High School…Threw for 2,978 yards with 30 touchdowns as a senior…Passing yardage was most in conference’s 87-year history, surpassing prominent players such as Johnny Lujack, George Blanda, Joe Namath, Terry Hanratty, Joe Montana and Dan Marino.
November 22nd, 2009 at 9:44 am
Nail it Vegas. Bet the Silver and Black today. Its happenin’.
November 22nd, 2009 at 9:48 am
I listen to Mel Kiper usually every Saturday on the radio, and he said that Taylor Mays has hurt his draft stock quite a bit this year. Said he may go the way of Rey-Rey last year and slip into the early 2nd round.
Give me one of the two SEC LB’s, McClain or Spikes. It should be simple, draft D where they play it the best (SEC) and draft offense where the best offenses are (Big 12 and Pac-10).
November 22nd, 2009 at 9:53 am
Man, I woke up this morning with some kind of a hangover.
I was down at the Kings Arms, just by the river, sitting on a stool, half watching a rugby game on the big screen, half playing blackjack with the barman and this German comes in.
He’s staying at the nearby hotel and came in for a drink.
We get to talking. I tell him Germany’s fine except there’s too many Germans there. Next thing I know we’re playing drinking games. This guy drank like they weren’t going to make it anymore and this morning I felt like crap.
Really feeling down.
Then I come on Jerry’s blog and start feeling better because I start reading that conversation between Priest and 16.
That was effin great Priest! Way to go and don’t let Mr trying to pizz on the parade get in the way.
That was a great thing to do.
November 22nd, 2009 at 9:55 am
People say Bruce is a shrimp and has no arm. I say he has the same arm-strength and size as Mark Sanchez. Didn’t stop Mark from being a top-5 pick.
November 22nd, 2009 at 9:55 am
those 2 DT’s from U.of Minnesota…I cant remember their names but 1 of em 6-2 320 and a freshman WOW
November 22nd, 2009 at 9:55 am
How good can this Raiders team be with a QB that can manage the ball? How good can the supporting cast be with Gradkowski?
GO RAIDERS!
November 22nd, 2009 at 9:57 am
I can think of another 6′ QB…Brees
November 22nd, 2009 at 9:57 am
What happens if Kowski gets hurt? Do you want to see JR or Frye?
November 22nd, 2009 at 9:57 am
If we win today, we should acknowledge our 16 year old good-luck charm. If he is truly in a wheelchair, we should try to get Jerry involved in hooking him up with a player that is willing to give the kid tickets to future games.
It would be good pub for the team (for once) and I am sure there are tixs available.
Good work Priest, the Holiday season brings out the best in us!!!
November 22nd, 2009 at 9:58 am
Nnamdi:
Post #266
Maybe you’re just listing receivers who Russell can’t throw a ball to.
November 22nd, 2009 at 9:58 am
I think in football it’s definitely the size of the fight in the dog…not the size of the dog in the fight
November 22nd, 2009 at 10:01 am
I know Vegas…Talking about making a kid’s LIFE!!!
Way 2 Go Priesttj
November 22nd, 2009 at 10:03 am
If Priesttj got any of us tickets we would ALL jump up and down like there is no 2morrow…Hell I almost jumped up and down for 16…but at 51 I just felt like it instead lol
November 22nd, 2009 at 10:05 am
I always knew that Priest was a good dude. He clearly has a big heart.
I’m off to Oakland y’all, have a good one…
November 22nd, 2009 at 10:08 am
What a catch Dallas Clark!!!!
November 22nd, 2009 at 10:09 am
Hell of a catch. Hell of a pass too.
November 22nd, 2009 at 10:11 am
Forgot to mention Boomer Esiason. He said this morning that Gradkowski wouldn’t turn the ball over as much as JaMarcus would. What he didn’t mention was that Gradkowski turned the ball over twice last week in a quarter and a half and JaMarcus had 0 turnovers.
I still think that Gradkowski will also see a different game called for him, based on his skill set, which will mean more high percentage plays and quick hitters. All I care is if I see Bush RUN THE FUKKING BALL!
ok now I am out, enjoy the game…
November 22nd, 2009 at 10:14 am
When Priest met 16 and his mom at Emeryville he said he’d be wearing Raider gear.
I got a great visual of Priest sitting in a booth at Denny’s wearing a Raider helmet!
Way to go Priest!
GO RAIDERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
November 22nd, 2009 at 10:38 am
Morning All-
Anyone got a list of internet channels for today?
I hope Grad does well, even tho he and Frye were there to be ‘non-threatening’ to JR. There has been good stories of guys starting badly or riding the bench til they got an opportunity. Wasn’t Gannon a non-starter at KC? And Plunkett was a great story. Maybe just the new energy will kick it up for the defense. They have to compete today. They just might!
November 22nd, 2009 at 10:45 am
atdhe.net
November 22nd, 2009 at 10:55 am
watching the Colts/Ravens game via atdhe.net. They have a skysports.com feed from England. Real interesting when they cut for commercials and opinions.
November 22nd, 2009 at 10:56 am
34 points in the 1st Q of Browns-Lions!!!!
The over/under for the game was only 38.
November 22nd, 2009 at 11:00 am
Another Ed Reed interception
November 22nd, 2009 at 11:19 am
I’m actually watching the Browns game, lol. Best game on so far.
I tell you what, that Matt Stafford looks good. I had no idea he was 6′2 and 240lbs.
Quinn still isn’t impressing me at all. Would rather have Gradkowski, lol!
November 22nd, 2009 at 11:20 am
I don’t know why you guys just don’t get on with and call you local DirecTV dude.
NFL package for $189 is a steal!
November 22nd, 2009 at 11:23 am
LOL at Quinn torching Phillip Buchanon and Stafford rolling up Rob Ryan!
Stafford to Calvin Johnson combo is going to be NICE for some years.
November 22nd, 2009 at 11:27 am
Jhill,
Would love to get DirecTV….Unfortunately, my neighborhood doesn’t allow the dishes…..gotta move.
But not missing anything with this Raider play. So I have to go to the watering hole to watch this madness.
Anyway, I hope Gradkowski can get something done if for nothing else to get some of these young players some confidence.
What a disappointement the QB situation is. Huge disappointment
November 22nd, 2009 at 11:30 am
Doesn’t allow the dishes?
Como?
You don’t have to attach the dish to your house or condo. There are other options.
November 22nd, 2009 at 11:30 am
Only in the world of Rob Ryan will his offense put up 24 points in the first quarter and still not have a lead at halftime.
Wonder after he gets fired after this year (they are on pace to give up more yards than any defense in 25 years) will he be as bold as last year.
“I will have a job tomorrow, I am fine…”
LMAO!!!!
November 22nd, 2009 at 11:31 am
I can’t get the dish either, my condo doesn’t have a way to face SW other than having it on my front porch, which is a no-no with the HOA.
November 22nd, 2009 at 11:32 am
For less than the price of going to one game, you could see all the Raider games. Raider O is going to pay that just trying to get that virus out of his computer. Most of us piss away a couple hundred buck on BS, so I made up my mind when this first came out. I’ve had the NFL and NBA package for as long as I can remember. Best reality programming on TV, lol!
November 22nd, 2009 at 11:34 am
When is the NFL going to get off it’s high-horse and let cable packages offer the NFL package?
Less than 40% of cable owners have a dish, OF ANY KIND!!!
November 22nd, 2009 at 11:35 am
That’s a trip, fellas!
The little things. I’ve NEVER had that situation. Now that you mention it, when we had a condo some years back, I never asked anyone. I just put it on the roof, lol! How would they know if you just snuck up there around 3am and installed it yourself?
November 22nd, 2009 at 11:37 am
Did Cleveland just line up for a FG, fake it, get a first-down, to set up another FG???
What the hell is the point of that?
November 22nd, 2009 at 11:37 am
DirectTV is paying ridiculous coin to the NFL for those rights. There have been all kinda lawsuits by fans and they still have the rights. I thought the lawsuit that was about fans having the right to purchase individual games instead of all the teams might have worked out, but I guess DTV had better lawyers, lol!
November 22nd, 2009 at 11:38 am
Have you been watching this game Vegas?
Matt Stafford is the type of QB I want, not Brady Quinn!
November 22nd, 2009 at 11:39 am
Remember the Rodgers vs. Alex Smith debate in the draft??
My boy Rodgers is crushing him today. Does Smith even have 25 yards passing?
November 22nd, 2009 at 11:39 am
Is there ANY chance that DHB turns into Calvin Johnson?
He’s already on par with Hines Ward in the blocking dept, lol!
November 22nd, 2009 at 11:39 am
Jhill,
I’m not paying anything to fix my Laptop. I have Bit Defender, and they are working on fixing my laptop.
I understand what you are saying, and I agree with you. Every season I spend about $300 + on just going to Bars to watch the games. Maybe next year I will consider getting a dish.
November 22nd, 2009 at 11:40 am
CBS sportsline. I’m a ticker-tracking junkie!!!
November 22nd, 2009 at 11:41 am
I was watching that game too …
It’s crazy the arm Rogers has. Why the hell does he hold the damn ball so long though? He’s going to get himself killed out there.
November 22nd, 2009 at 11:43 am
Wassup O!
Not to up on the computer stuff. Just an old head getting by on the basics, lol!
Got a virus on my PC from some fuggin porn link, and it cost me over $100 bucks at the local PC store to get it fixed.
November 22nd, 2009 at 11:45 am
I think I’m going to break down and by myseld an Apple laptop for Xmas. It’s time!
November 22nd, 2009 at 11:46 am
Company gave me a Dell with an air card. It’s pretty sweet.
I’m not a Mac guy, but those that have them swear by them.
November 22nd, 2009 at 11:51 am
All right folks off to the Hilton. Not rocking the usual #2 jersey today for obvious reasons, going with the old-school white C-Wood.
Come on Bruce!!!!!!! Give us some hope….
November 22nd, 2009 at 11:51 am
Was watching the Minnesota game because I love watching Favre-now that’s how to play the game Russell.
Looks like you win that one Vegas.
Then I watched the Dallas game and the NFL had a SIX MINUTE delay while the booth thoooooght about a play in the last minute!
Unbelievable waste of time!
November 22nd, 2009 at 11:51 am
This is my problem with the Gradkowski situation.
What if he wins 4 or 5 of the remaining games and the Raiders finish 2 or 3 games out of the Division Title?
We will all be left with the what-ifs about the losses this season. The Raiders waited to pull the trigger on a move that should have been made after the Houston game.
But hey, chances of that happening are slim, so probably won’t have to worry about it.
November 22nd, 2009 at 12:02 pm
Jhill,
I was thinking the same thing bro. Next laptop is a Mac! Sony Vaio is good, but Macs are the best! Macs are worth the extra $500. IMHO
November 22nd, 2009 at 12:21 pm
Vegas, does the Hilton let us “root” for the Raiders from there if you get what I’m saying? dont wanna rat em out
January 29th, 2010 at 12:42 am
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October 23rd, 2011 at 5:28 pm
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November 3rd, 2011 at 6:03 am
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November 7th, 2011 at 12:34 pm
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November 17th, 2011 at 5:16 am
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December 4th, 2011 at 5:46 pm
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December 6th, 2011 at 6:08 am
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December 21st, 2011 at 8:04 am
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March 31st, 2012 at 9:36 pm
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April 18th, 2012 at 9:08 pm
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