Final: Raiders 20, Bengals 17
By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Sunday, November 22nd, 2009 at 4:20 pm in Oakland Raiders.
Scoring
Oak_Louis Murphy 29-yard pass from Bruce Gradkowski (Sebastian Janikowski kicks PAT), :33
Oak_Janikowski 33-yard field goal, :15.
Notes:
– Raiders last chance from own 20. Gradkowski hits Darren McFadden for 6 yards on first down. Gradkowski finds Zach Miller for 19 yards to the 45-yard line with 1:50 left.
Gradkowski to Miller again on first-and-10 for nine yards to the 46. Second-and-1, can’t find open receiver, throws it away.
Darren McFadden runs to the 45 for a first down. Clock down to 1:11.
Raiders have one time out left with 1:11 to play at Bengals 45.
Gradkowski wings one into double coverage for DHB _ no chance. Luckily it falls incomplete.
Second-and-10 pass to Chaz Schilens miss-timed, goes incomplete, bringing up third-and-10.
Third-and-10 pass to right sideline broken up Johnathan Joseph, intended for Schilens.
Fourth-and-10, Gradkowski finds Schilens for 16 yards and first down to the 29-yard line. Spike at 41 seconds.
First-and-10, Gradkowski finds Louis Murphy to the 1-yard line, fights his way into end zone for touchdown against Morgan Trent with 33 seconds left. Sebastian Janikowski can tie score with PAT . . . play under review.
Ruling upheld as touchdown.
– Andre Caldwell fumbles ball, Brandon Myers force fumble and strip. Raiders set up to win the game. Gradkowski takes a knee three times, Janikowski converts from 33 yards with 15 seconds left.
Bengals take short kickoff with 10 seconds left. Use five seconds on Palmer pass to Caldwell to the 42. Palmer desperation heave picked by Asomugha at the gun. Game over.
– Bengals get rushing rirst down (Bernard Scott) and Carson Palmer to Chad Ochocinco slant pass for another as Raiders need to get ball back. Thomas Howard breaks up third-and-5 pass with 2:20 left, Bengals punting from 49 _ ball sails into end zone. Raiders to start at own 20.
– Good field position is wasted. Gradkowski hit while throwing by Jonathan Fanene, underthrown pass intended for Louis Murphy caught on a dive by Johnathan Joseph. Raiders challenge, claiming he trapped it.
No announcement, Bengals get the ball at 21
– Cable’s decision to punt with Lechler looking good after Bengals go backward from own 10-yard line. Tyvon Branch dumps Bernard Scott for 3-yard loss, Greg Ellis sacks Carson Palmer to the 3. Raiders open at Bengals 43-yard line with 6:08 left.
– Raiders fail to pick up third-and-1 at own 47, Fargas stopped for no gain by Tank Williams. Fans boo as Shane Lechler comes in to punt.
Lechler pins Bengals back at the 10. Could be good call if defense can hold.
– Raiders come up with another stop deep in Cincy territory _ Jeremi Johnson stripped by Sam Williams, recovered by Desmond Bryant at the 15-yard line. First Bengals turnover in red zone in last 43 trips.
– Another third-and-long conversion _ Palmer to Caldwell in front of Routt for frist down at the 24-yard line.
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November 22nd, 2009 at 4:21 pm
yeahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
November 22nd, 2009 at 4:21 pm
TAKE THAT JABUSTUS! THAT”S HOW IT”S DONE!
November 22nd, 2009 at 4:21 pm
we win!!!!!!!!!
November 22nd, 2009 at 4:21 pm
whoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
hoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
November 22nd, 2009 at 4:21 pm
They finally fished a game! Wooo! Upset #2
November 22nd, 2009 at 4:21 pm
Gradkowski still sucks. Cincy choked this one, gave it to us. Same result if Russell had played.
November 22nd, 2009 at 4:22 pm
We got us an NFL Quarterback now.
November 22nd, 2009 at 4:22 pm
where is MR at ????????
November 22nd, 2009 at 4:22 pm
I just have to say I’m glad we got a win. About time the ball bounced our way a few times!
November 22nd, 2009 at 4:22 pm
Wow! Great Game. The D held strong. Grad looks like a keeper. Go Raiders!
November 22nd, 2009 at 4:22 pm
winners!winners!
November 22nd, 2009 at 4:22 pm
Gradkowski may not have a laser arm but at least he gives us a chance to win.
IT FEELS GOOD TO WIN!
November 22nd, 2009 at 4:22 pm
KC got it done against the Pitts. Maybe we can too. Dallas is up next!
November 22nd, 2009 at 4:22 pm
That was awesome!!!!!!!!!!!1 Christmas is here early!!!!!! Bring on the Cowboys!!!!!!
November 22nd, 2009 at 4:22 pm
# JB Says:
November 22nd, 2009 at 4:21 pm
TAKE THAT JABUSTUS! THAT”S HOW IT”S DONE!
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What, recovering a lucky fumble? This game goes the same way if Russell plays. Name one thing Gradkowski did today that Russell couldn’t do, oh, besides the 2 turnovers he caused.
November 22nd, 2009 at 4:22 pm
THAT’S WHAT I’M TALKING ABOUT!!!!!!!
November 22nd, 2009 at 4:23 pm
YEAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH WE WON….AND I AINT APOLOGIZING FOR WINNINGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG…
FCK MRS. FCK TERRAPIN, FCK DUDE….FCK ALL HATERS….WE LOOKED PROFESSIONAL TODAY.
November 22nd, 2009 at 4:23 pm
mr = TROLL if your still complaning your not a fan GET LOST YOU IMMATURE CRY BABY
WE WIN WE WIN
RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAIDERS
November 22nd, 2009 at 4:23 pm
MR – Grad put us in a position to win. When was the last time Russell had a successful 2 minute drill?
November 22nd, 2009 at 4:24 pm
Did you guys see the quick-pitch 2 Fargas at the end of thye 2nd qrt????????????????
Oh YEAH FOOTBALL IS FUN AGAIN A QUICK=PITCH!!!!!!!!!!!
November 22nd, 2009 at 4:24 pm
WAY TO GO MURPHY
MAYBE HE WILL START NOW
November 22nd, 2009 at 4:24 pm
IT feels good to have a QB that can manage the game and show some emotion today. OMG I thought I saw JR jumped 2 inches off the ground to congrat Bruce…OMG
November 22nd, 2009 at 4:24 pm
Gradkowski sucks. All luck today. He did nothing Russell couldn’t do. Look at the numbers. We ran the ball, played conservative. Russell was never given that chance. Then, we get a godsend fumble. You morons are crediting Gradkowski for that.
November 22nd, 2009 at 4:24 pm
CHAOS BABY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
November 22nd, 2009 at 4:24 pm
I hope Vegas didn’t lose a lot on this one!
November 22nd, 2009 at 4:25 pm
TexGuy, at what point in the game did Grad put us in a position to win? Cincy was in soft coverage on the TD play. Russell could have done the same thing. There was no skill involved. Gradkowski sucks.
November 22nd, 2009 at 4:25 pm
POLISH POWER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
November 22nd, 2009 at 4:25 pm
in spite of Mr. Davis raiders played a good game….
November 22nd, 2009 at 4:25 pm
they better replay this game on nfl tv this week.
November 22nd, 2009 at 4:25 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
November 22nd, 2009 at 4:22 pm
# JB Says:
November 22nd, 2009 at 4:21 pm
TAKE THAT JABUSTUS! THAT”S HOW IT”S DONE!
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What, recovering a lucky fumble? This game goes the same way if Russell plays. Name one thing Gradkowski did today that Russell couldn’t do, oh, besides the 2 turnovers he caused.
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HE THREW CATCHABLE BALLS
GET LOST COME BACK TOMORROW WE WANT TO CELEBRATE HATER !
RAIDERS !!!!!!!!!!!
November 22nd, 2009 at 4:26 pm
MR, that fumble was roughed up, not lucky, Raider D!
November 22nd, 2009 at 4:26 pm
Great victory today! Team competed till the end and the defense represented by putting pressure on the QB.
What could have been in 2009.
Should have played a QB that was at least trying to prepare.
Let the DC do his damn job
November 22nd, 2009 at 4:26 pm
HAA-MUTA-FUGGIN-HA-HATERZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ
November 22nd, 2009 at 4:26 pm
# lefty12 Says:
November 22nd, 2009 at 4:22 pm
Terrapin-ever heard the phrase ‘the QB throws a catchable ball’?i’m not saying its true,but that may be the reason.
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Now Lefty …there’s where I have to give you some credit. Grads throws a much softer ball than Russell. I’m very reluctant to put that on the QB vs the guys whose task it is to catch the damn ball.
Grads is no savior …you guys are on some real bad ass hallucinates to believe that ..Bucs, Browns and where ever he’s been …he’s been garbage. I’m not buying the BS.
November 22nd, 2009 at 4:26 pm
Yeh, we looked professional today, aig. Cincy fumbled, and we landed on the ball. Real professional. That fumble doesn’t happen you know Cincy gets the game winning field goal. Stop being such a dumbass. The Raiders do NOT have a team, no matter who starts at QB, gradkowski or Russell.
November 22nd, 2009 at 4:26 pm
The D played well – especially because Seymour was not in there. They did their job. SEABASS did his job! The O-line provided reasonable pass protection. Receivers on both sides of the field were able to play today. Murphy showed real HEART & determination. Good job all. It’s GOOD to win.
November 22nd, 2009 at 4:26 pm
Name one thing Gradkowski did today that Russell couldn’t do…
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Score two offensive touchdowns in a single game? Let’s start with that.
November 22nd, 2009 at 4:26 pm
BRL would have overthrown all of WR’s like he has done in the past. Glad black ryan leaf is on the bench…
He is an ill prepared moron, doesnt know the playbook…
November 22nd, 2009 at 4:27 pm
I must say it has been a little sad to think we could have played Grad much earlier in the season and be much more competitive.
November 22nd, 2009 at 4:27 pm
AT LEAST IT WAS MUROHY AT THE END NOT LIKE LAST WEEK WHEN IT WAS STONE HANDS
November 22nd, 2009 at 4:27 pm
Sweet!
Maybe now we go double our win totoal…
November 22nd, 2009 at 4:27 pm
Bengals can’t win at the Coliseum.
November 22nd, 2009 at 4:27 pm
fumble was roughed up…LOL. Moron. I saw it. It was coughed up. In the NFL, most kick returners know how to protect the football. This game was luck. Only kool aid drinkers celebrate luck wins.
November 22nd, 2009 at 4:28 pm
The Raiders do NOT have a team, no matter who starts at QB, gradkowski or Russell.
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Are you even a Raiders fan? Dude… it’s a win. Against a much, much better team. Relax and enjoy it.
November 22nd, 2009 at 4:28 pm
HAFUGGINHA
November 22nd, 2009 at 4:28 pm
Thec07 Says:
November 22nd, 2009 at 4:25 pm
in spite of Mr. Davis raiders played a good game….
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They played a good game because davis allowed football decisions to be made by the football people.
Why was Russell playing in the 1st place if he was overweight, not preparing, not getting in the playbook and skipping meetings? I can’t reconcile that because it disrespects the fans and other players in the league that bust their azz just to make a roster spot.
The playcalling on defense seems to change when they battle an elite QB……
November 22nd, 2009 at 4:28 pm
Grads didn’t give you a chance to win. Cincy gave you a chance to win.
Get off the hallucinates
November 22nd, 2009 at 4:28 pm
Man I hope this makes Seymour’s back feel better.
November 22nd, 2009 at 4:28 pm
HAFIGGINHAHATERZ
November 22nd, 2009 at 4:28 pm
luck or not and inspite of Mr. Davis ineptitude a win is a win….
November 22nd, 2009 at 4:29 pm
Grad wanted the ball today.
November 22nd, 2009 at 4:29 pm
Mrs. I’m sorry the Raiders won. Really really really sorry…fck no. up yours muthfcker!
November 22nd, 2009 at 4:30 pm
HAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHHAHAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
HATERZZ
November 22nd, 2009 at 4:30 pm
The real MR, I will continue bashing you for everytime you make a stupid comment which is always. Go to JRs house tonight give him a litlle head and tell him everything will be alright big guy you fruit cake.
November 22nd, 2009 at 4:30 pm
MaddenRaider, you need to switch your name to Madden49er already. Grad clearly played better today than Russell has all season. Yeah, Cincy did their part to beat themselves, but no matter. We were supposed to get blown out this game, and it didn’t happen. Fact is, Gradkowski put up better stats this game than Roethlisberger did against the Bengals the week before without a Hines Ward or a Santonio Holmes. Really, give up your mancrush on Russell.
November 22nd, 2009 at 4:30 pm
It’s a shame that this has become the Gradkowski vs Russell debate.
Quite simply, we got some breaks today. Cincy missing a chip shot FG, and also fumbling on the 5yd line was huge for us. Cincy fumbling that kickoff was HUGE for us.
Joseph dropping that pick Gradkowski threw right to him before the Chaz catch on 1st down was HUGE for us, lol.
It’s about time the ball bounced our way!
November 22nd, 2009 at 4:30 pm
Yeah AIG i aint apologizing for this win either!!!!!
IT FEELS SO GOOD TO GET A WIN!!!!!!
November 22nd, 2009 at 4:30 pm
Congratulations Raiders, way to hang in there. Good Win.
November 22nd, 2009 at 4:31 pm
The Raiders don’t have a team. The problem is not the QB. The problem is the organization, the lack of depth at just about every position, the lack of discipline throughout the building…everything. If cincy doesn’t fumble that ball, we’re 2-8. Turns out, we’re 3-7, instead! Woo hoo! Cable bumaye. You guys remind me of Nipsy Russell in the movie Wildcats, “that was one hell of a victory party”, when the other team’s bus broke down. That’s basically what happened today. Cincy’s bus broke down. Fumble was pure luck.
November 22nd, 2009 at 4:31 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
November 22nd, 2009 at 4:25 pm
TexGuy, at what point in the game did Grad put us in a position to win? Cincy was in soft coverage on the TD play. Russell could have done the same thing. There was no skill involved. Gradkowski sucks.
Is this really a question? If I answer it will you go away?
OK here is your answer – He threw 2 TD passes. Something that Russell hasn’t been able to do against any opponent all year long.
November 22nd, 2009 at 4:31 pm
MR, Kool Aid away, we ain’t in last anymore! Idiot!
November 22nd, 2009 at 4:32 pm
yep a fresh defense SURE DIDNT HELP EITHER DID IT YOU BLIND BAAASTARSZZZ
November 22nd, 2009 at 4:32 pm
Raiders screw me every week in my pool. EVERY DAMN WEEK! Sht ..one way or another they screw me.
November 22nd, 2009 at 4:32 pm
The Raiders beat a friggin’ good team!
November 22nd, 2009 at 4:32 pm
D on the field almost 40 minutes, and played every minute.
November 22nd, 2009 at 4:32 pm
Cowboys are going to destroy us.
November 22nd, 2009 at 4:32 pm
What a relief to see a better QB out there managing the game!
It looked like Gradowski was getting a lot more time than Russell but he was just reading the defense better and getting the ball off faster.
November 22nd, 2009 at 4:33 pm
A good team beat themselves. That’s all that happened today. That’s how it will be written, as well it should be. Cincy’s a SB contender, the Raiders will never again know what that’s like as long as Al’s alive.
November 22nd, 2009 at 4:33 pm
Imagine how much better we could look with better linebackers at MIKE and SAM, a legitimate big-play receiver, and a better QB than Gradkowski.
Gradkowski put us in a position to win based solely on the fact that he can put the ball where it needs to be in a timely manner more consistently than Russell.
Again, just imagine the endless possibilities this team would have without the wasted high draft picks, and with more consistency in the coaching staff.
November 22nd, 2009 at 4:33 pm
The Real Madden Raiders, somebody just posted on espn that you and JR have been lovers for the past year, so that explains everything, sorry guy didnt mean to upset you and your man
November 22nd, 2009 at 4:34 pm
like i said. start the puny lil white boy and we play better . see dta big dumg buffoon jamarcus cant read a defense , 7 is sscared 2 throw sum passes. that white dude gragkuski can at least read d .
November 22nd, 2009 at 4:34 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
November 22nd, 2009 at 4:32 pm
Cowboys are going to destroy us.
Are you sure? Roy Williams drops more balls than DHB. He nearly lost them the game today.
November 22nd, 2009 at 4:34 pm
Yeh, EnglandRaider, loved the way Gradkowski managed that last fumble by Cincy, which gave us the game. Pure poise by Gradkowski, from the sideline, to make that Cincy player fumble.
November 22nd, 2009 at 4:34 pm
Cowboys played badly in last two games-and badly today, especially the offense-we can beat them next week.
What a great Thanksgiving that would bde.
November 22nd, 2009 at 4:34 pm
to Real MaddenRaider – you’re observations are complete nonsense. I’m thinking you’re either related to JaBustus it his agent because you have no freaking clue. It’s a shame that you have Madden and Raider in your name.
November 22nd, 2009 at 4:34 pm
We struggled and had a few good breaks, but we hang in and won. Yeah, maybe Cinci didnt have their best day, but a Win is a Win is a Win.
And JMR will sure not play next week which is good news. OTOH, the offense must still get better, let’s not kid ourselves. As I understand DHB was pretty much a non factor again today.
I predicted a loss for today. So I’ll be humble and say congrats, Raiders. Well done!
Next week in Dallas won’t be any easier. But just from seeing the score, Dallas must have played poorly today, barely winning against the Skins.
November 22nd, 2009 at 4:35 pm
Tex Guy, we’re not going to blitz two weeks straight. Every Raider fan with a brain knows that. We’re playing one on one defense next week, and Dallas is going to pick that apart. I doubt they’re going to fumble kickoff returns, either.
November 22nd, 2009 at 4:35 pm
A QUICK-PITCH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
November 22nd, 2009 at 4:35 pm
MR- Luck is Preparation + Opportunity. Get over yourself and enjoy the win.
I didn’t expect anything from the offense just for the team to be competitive. Russell or no Russell, Grad was in there and got the job done, along with the rest of the team. But I do have a question for you:
What is more important to you:
a) Raider Win
b) You being right.
If its “b” then you’ve overstayed your welcome.
November 22nd, 2009 at 4:35 pm
Some of you guys are flat out desperate, lol.
We had TEN frickin pts with under a minute to go, and the offense played better? I’m not quite sure what some of your goals are for this offense, but today was NOT it.
I was seriously thinking about leaving after that 3rd down play by Gradkowski. Needed to get the grill started. I really thought we had no chance to win, even with 30 seconds to go.
I won’t do a Dakota since we won. I’ll wait until Tuesday to start my anti-Cable/Hackett rants.
Way to fight defense! Great fuggin job!
November 22nd, 2009 at 4:35 pm
to Real MaddenRaider – DAAAAAAA RAAAAAAAAAAAAADERS
November 22nd, 2009 at 4:36 pm
Anyone can see it was better game management, team work wins!!!!
November 22nd, 2009 at 4:36 pm
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
November 22nd, 2009 at 4:36 pm
DHB dropped a couple including one in the end zone but the guy blocks well and on that end zone pass he fought the defender and prevented an interception.
November 22nd, 2009 at 4:36 pm
Goodnight Raider fans. The Real MR tell Jamarcus Iam sorry I didnt know you guys were going out with each other, I hope you two have a nice evening.
November 22nd, 2009 at 4:36 pm
Real MaddenRaider must be JaMarcus’s bum buddy … you sure kiss his ass alot.
JaMarcus 9 games … 2 TDs
Gradkowski 1 game … 2 TDs
JaMarcus $63 million man … how many does Gradkowski make.
November 22nd, 2009 at 4:36 pm
MR you said that Al would never let us blitz again the rest of the year. You don’t know anything about football other than what Tom Jacksonfrom BSPN tells you.
November 22nd, 2009 at 4:36 pm
Again, why wasn’t this move made earlier?
Playing Russell appears to be as bad a decision as keeping Kiffin around for 4 extra weeks.
November 22nd, 2009 at 4:37 pm
Anyone notice how DHB slowed down with the ball in the air, then breaks the wrong direction and finally feigns interest in going near the db’s who were heading to the ball. BENCH DHB and we can do even better!
November 22nd, 2009 at 4:37 pm
you shut down Miles Austin and you shut down the cowgirls. Go look up the stats. Whenever Miles is not having a big day, the girls cant score. It’s up to the Raiders to stop Miles. But no matter, Must Enjoy This Win Today. Wify gonna get reamed…..yeah.
November 22nd, 2009 at 4:37 pm
DT42 Says:
November 22nd, 2009 at 4:35 pm
MR- Luck is Preparation + Opportunity.
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Please put the pipe down and call your sponsor.
November 22nd, 2009 at 4:37 pm
MR’s upset because we won.
You can always go back to making fun of 16 jackarse.
November 22nd, 2009 at 4:38 pm
youngamerican, thats a lot of s h i t. yeah imagine how better we be with an all pro qb. and a franchise left tackle. and barry sanders & tom landry as our coach. no s h i t dude . youre a scholar . cowboys offense been ugly tho.
November 22nd, 2009 at 4:38 pm
luck is luck.
November 22nd, 2009 at 4:38 pm
POLISH POWER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
November 22nd, 2009 at 4:38 pm
Terrapin,i think you are misreading people.most realize Gradkowski isn’t the savior.what they do realize is at this point in time,he gives the team a better chance to win and be competitive.
November 22nd, 2009 at 4:38 pm
Hey Grads fumbled a snap…2B expected…1st game against the strongest team in the AFC???
PRICELESS
Hackett knows
November 22nd, 2009 at 4:39 pm
blitzing and luck. that’s all that happened today. neither will happen next week.
November 22nd, 2009 at 4:39 pm
We had TEN pts with less than 30 seconds to go in the game!
TEN POINTS!
November 22nd, 2009 at 4:39 pm
Huff stepped it up, Howard stepped it up, Raiders stepped it up, a good TEAM victory! Critics be damned!
November 22nd, 2009 at 4:39 pm
ochocinco: 4rec 67yds 0tds
YEAH!!!!!!!!!!
November 22nd, 2009 at 4:39 pm
Man……….What a game…..Post Game news conferences are on………Comcast
November 22nd, 2009 at 4:39 pm
Lets just enjoy the win, its a friggin big W in the win column and it wasn’t as ugly as the KC win
November 22nd, 2009 at 4:39 pm
I love the win. Cant stand the fact that you guys are crowning Grads though. The guy really isn’t that good.
Cable really is garbage. Wasted TOs. Bad calls.
November 22nd, 2009 at 4:40 pm
Gradkowski gives the talent around him a chance to shine. The clock would of ran out by the time Jablubber got to the line to spike it!!!
November 22nd, 2009 at 4:41 pm
Priest,
You gotta get 16yr old some more tix. Game balls to Priest and 16yr old.
November 22nd, 2009 at 4:41 pm
Terrapin,
seriously bro. you gotta stop being like Mrs. MaddenRaider. Nobody on here is going to say that Grad is probowl bound. All we wanted was competent football mgmt from the QB position. And we got that today.
November 22nd, 2009 at 4:42 pm
YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!! That’s what I’m talking about Raider Nation!! Sorry Jamarcus but see what happens when our qb isn’t a liability but rather puts together game tying drives with 2 minutes to go. All I can hope is that this will light a fire inside of JR and he will be leading those drives in the future, until then have fun chewing those seeds!!
November 22nd, 2009 at 4:42 pm
Aig (#107) just nutshelled it
November 22nd, 2009 at 4:43 pm
fugg it…I’m saying it now
Its OVER
November 22nd, 2009 at 4:43 pm
Today was the first time ever I have seen JR looks and act interested in the game. And he wanst playing.
BTW, Tom Cable just said that Grad knew where to go with the ball and made good decisions all day. EXACTLY.
November 22nd, 2009 at 4:43 pm
Murphy: (paraphrase) “I didn’t know i could come in on my day off for extra work” LOL, gj Raiders management for promoting work ethic culture. Someone call Gannon.
November 22nd, 2009 at 4:44 pm
Aig, agree, but our D has shone through, and stepped up and got it done, O was also shining, a very good day in Oakville today!
November 22nd, 2009 at 4:44 pm
lefty12 Says:
November 22nd, 2009 at 4:38 pm
Terrapin,i think you are misreading people.most realize Gradkowski isn’t the savior.what they do realize is at this point in time,he gives the team a better chance to win and be competitive.
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The offense was terrible, Lefty. You were right about Gradkowski being no worse than Russell. But this team having only 10 pts on the board, and Gradkowski getting away with THREE more dropped picks, I still want to see Frye.
Bush’s fumble was a killer. Reminded me of the DMAC fumble week 1.
I’m REALLY happy for Murphy! Let’s hope this is something to build on for him.
Gradkowski played as well as can be expected in this offense. I have no problem sticking with him and Frye over Russell.
November 22nd, 2009 at 4:44 pm
Short memory you guys have – Russell had 2 game winning drives this year (SD & KC) …stop reaching with Grads.
November 22nd, 2009 at 4:44 pm
Yeah COACH let’s just enjoy the win. Don’t know which dallas team will show up thursday but let’s just savor this one a little bit.However it ended up they gave a grest effort and positive things finally started happening…. THAT’S AWESOME!
November 22nd, 2009 at 4:44 pm
gotta love only 3 flags
November 22nd, 2009 at 4:46 pm
# toec Says:
November 22nd, 2009 at 4:43 pm
Murphy: (paraphrase) “I didn’t know i could come in on my day off for extra work” LOL, gj Raiders management for promoting work ethic culture. Someone call Gannon.
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Did Murphy really say that? ..What a crying shame
November 22nd, 2009 at 4:46 pm
Guys,
Our D is good and can be very good when it plays inspired football …or better yet, has a reasn to play inspired football. It has been the offense that just takes all the energy and intensity out of them. It’s not a coincidence that our D has showed up whenever the O can move the chain. The achilles heel is our O and partly our spec team. We solved our O today and hopefully our spec team when Miller gets back.
November 22nd, 2009 at 4:47 pm
Terrapin,
yes he said that. Also he has been catching 200 balls per day every day per the game analyst.
November 22nd, 2009 at 4:47 pm
MR on the touchdown to Murphy, Gradkowski looked to the right, pump faked then looked to the opposite side of the field and made a great throw. Russel does not see the whole field, never looks off the safetys and almost never pump fakes. I’m not saying Gradkowski is the savior, but you asked what he did that Russel can’t. Theres 3 things in one play.
November 22nd, 2009 at 4:47 pm
Jhill how many people do you think were in the Stadium?
November 22nd, 2009 at 4:48 pm
Tyvon Branch had a good game, Bruce gave us a lift…now on to Dallas
I dont want to embarrassed on national tv…defense MUST show up.
Seymour was hurt, so I dont know what his status is for Dallas.
November 22nd, 2009 at 4:48 pm
Real MaddenRaider doesn’t have the balls to admit he was wrong. How sad. Gradkowski played well. He also inspired the rest of the team including the defense. Now we have a pro quarterback. They need to incorporate his running ability into the offense.
What the h*ll is the deal with using Fargas over Bush???
November 22nd, 2009 at 4:49 pm
no Tom you are not the only person in the universe who think we headed in right direction
November 22nd, 2009 at 4:49 pm
BTW, Tom Cable just said that Grad knew where to go with the ball and made good decisions all day. EXACTLY.
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Said the same thing about the other QB after the Eagles win.
Seriously, can we just enjoy the win with out bringing up the other QB?
Gradkowski was one dropped pick by Cincy on 3rd and 10 with under a minute to go in the game from you guys killing him.
A rookiw WR finally made a play, the STs finally got a big turnover, and Seabass finally made a game winning FG!
GREAT run defense!
I wish we could get off the field on 3rd and 15 and longer though, lol!
November 22nd, 2009 at 4:50 pm
Cable said they didnt know the extent of seymour in jury
November 22nd, 2009 at 4:51 pm
Terrapin Says:
November 22nd, 2009 at 4:44 pm
Short memory you guys have – Russell had 2 game winning drives this year (SD & KC) …stop reaching with Grads.
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Give it a rest Raiderhater.
JaMarcus 9 games …… 2 TDs … $63 million
Gradkowski 1 game ….. 2 TDs … $2 million
November 22nd, 2009 at 4:51 pm
Kirk, Bush has DBH disease, fumblituos!
November 22nd, 2009 at 4:51 pm
KSFO-AM
November 22nd, 2009 at 4:52 pm
Terrapin Says:
November 22nd, 2009 at 4:46 pm
# toec Says:
November 22nd, 2009 at 4:43 pm
Murphy: (paraphrase) “I didn’t know i could come in on my day off for extra work” LOL, gj Raiders management for promoting work ethic culture. Someone call Gannon.
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Did Murphy really say that? ..What a crying shame
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Amazing, isn’t it? I mean AMAZING!
Just imagine what this team could do with a real offensive staff. The WR coach should be fired for this alone! How can the struggling rookie WRs not know the facility is open on Tuesday?
LMFAO!
November 22nd, 2009 at 4:52 pm
MR:
my sponsor called and he said your fake. So i guess the answer to my question is “b” its more important for you to be right than a Raider win.
Raider Nation welcome to one aspect of the culture of losing. Finding negatives in a win. Was it perfect? Of course not. Anyone that watched the game can see that. Is it a step in the right direction? Maybe. Should you just enjoy the win before you throw your team under a bus because they didn’t win the way you wanted them to? Everyone has to answer that question themselves.
Again my advice is to enjoy the win and look forward to the next game. It beats being ticked off on Monday.
November 22nd, 2009 at 4:52 pm
I don’t know Kell …
Not many!
November 22nd, 2009 at 4:52 pm
MaddenRaider, how could you have the hutzpah to say Russell was never given a chance?? He was given EVERY chance. Grad may be a backup, but he doesn’t make crucial mistakes and he throws much more accurately than Russell (which isn’t saying much). Russell is much too raw and needs to sit until he learns to operate as a dropback qb. There may be enough talent on this team to win with Gradkowski, simply because he doesn’t lose games. Nothing brilliant, but steady.
November 22nd, 2009 at 4:52 pm
AND THE D KICKED AZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ
November 22nd, 2009 at 4:53 pm
Yeah guys dont bring up JaMeatball it might hurt somebodys lil feeelins…
FK jaMeatball Russell!
# jhill Says:
November 22nd, 2009 at 4:49 pm
Seriously, can we just enjoy the win with out bringing up the other QB?
November 22nd, 2009 at 4:54 pm
DRINK ENJOY WE NEEDED THIS ENJOY 4 ALL
November 22nd, 2009 at 4:55 pm
Addition by subtraction.
Subtract the NFL’s laziest and worst Qb and add a Avg or below Avg Qb and get a win!!
To he|| with JaMashmallow and his pickle kissing supporters.
November 22nd, 2009 at 4:55 pm
Congratulations 4eva,
Raiders4eve Says:
November 19th, 2009 at 5:05 pm
I hate AL Davis and wishes he passes away so that we can finally have a solid GM and a new owner (hopefully his son sells the team), but I have good feeling this week, I think Grad plays big, defense stays motivated and we win this game or lose with honor. No 2KC, Giants, Denver, Houston meltdown, more like SD, Philly, 1KC. Things like moving the chain, 1st downs, good running game, solid catching by Shcillens and Murphy. I am anticipating a change. Hopefully players play motivated with JABUST watching his friends performing and AL Davis accepting that JR is a clear bust.
November 22nd, 2009 at 4:56 pm
I see the 5 year old is here. First thing outta your dumb azz mouth is something non football related. How surprising!
November 22nd, 2009 at 4:56 pm
youngamerican, thats a lot of s h i t. yeah imagine how better we be with an all pro qb. and a franchise left tackle. and barry sanders & tom landry as our coach. no s h i t dude . youre a scholar . cowboys offense been ugly tho.
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My point is we could easily have those things. We’ve had a top ten pick multiple years in a row. Those picks have been wasted on players like Darren McFadden (who has been shelved in favor of Michael Bush), Darrius Heyward-Bey (when we could have had a player like Percy Harvin) and of course, JaMarcus Russell.
Russell is obviously the biggest problem. He works from a limited playbook. He’s inaccurate. He holds onto the ball too long and goes down too easily. He forces plays that aren’t there, and causes turnovers as a result. And worse than any of those things, he hasn’t showed the leadership or work ethic that it takes to help his team overcome those shortcomings.
Righting just one of those massive errors, even just for a week, even with a slightly less-than-average player, INSTANTLY put us in a position where we could actually be competitive with a team that has a lot more talent than we do.
Does that not highlight exactly what’s wrong with this organization? An out-of-touch owner who makes ill-advised personnel decisions?
It may not last for long, but by letting the coaching staff go with the guy they thought gave the team the best chance to win, it shows what this team is capable of. Not that I think that means Al Davis will necessarily get the message, but how can a win be anything but a step in the right direction?
If nothing else, it’s a step towards abandoning the JaMarcus Russell experiment, especially if seeing his team win without him isn’t the wake-up call he needs.
Man, I never thought I’d see “Raiders fans” argue with a win.
November 22nd, 2009 at 4:57 pm
BUT ITS GOING TOO !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
November 22nd, 2009 at 4:57 pm
New batch of koolaid, everyone is invited to my house for free BB’Q, on me, lets enjoy the -9 points WIN at my house, have to go, the grill is hot!
November 22nd, 2009 at 4:58 pm
JHill – You did bring this back up last week that these boys are not being pushed …that comment is just out of this world.
Get some hardworking competent staff in here that will push these players to be great and precise.
If he didn’t know that, I just fear to know what knowledge our supposed franchise QB lacked.
November 22nd, 2009 at 4:59 pm
Man, I never thought I’d see “Raiders fans” argue with a win.
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You’ve got to be kidding me! Raider fans fight each other in the stands. You think a blog is going to be any different?
November 22nd, 2009 at 4:59 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
blitzing and luck. that’s all that happened today. neither will happen next week.
Cincy choked this one, gave it to us.
luck is luck.
A good team beat themselves. That’s all that happened today. That’s how it will be written, as well it should be.
The Raiders do NOT have a team, no matter who starts at QB, gradkowski or Russell.
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Does this sound like a Raider fan to you guys?
November 22nd, 2009 at 5:00 pm
With JaMeatloaf firmly planted on the bench we have a chance in Dallas next week!
Free crying towels for all the Russell apologists.
November 22nd, 2009 at 5:00 pm
I thought Dmac was very good as how he was used…remember Grads wiil get used to Dmac and I cant wait.When Fargas almost scores on a 29 quick-pitch yessssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss
Dmac will thrive with Gradkowski,imo
November 22nd, 2009 at 5:01 pm
Yeah, 860 …
Plenty of ice for me.
Headed to the store myself. Fuggin Raiders should been eating by now, lol!
November 22nd, 2009 at 5:01 pm
HAHAHAHA
I told ya’ll, put in an average QB and the rest of the team responds.
There isn’t much room on the Bruce bandwagon, but front-row seats for the sane on here who had support all week for Bruce:
Myself, Jhill, 4eva and Chris in NY.
What happened to our awful O-line??? The NFL team leaders in sacks had FCKN ZERO TODAY FOLKS!!!
That’s what happens when the QB doesn’t have cement in his shoes and is able to think quickly.
(Minny covered, Indy covered and Raiders with the over. 4-0 today and the mortgage is paid with some quick thinking and some balls).
RAIIIDERRRSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
November 22nd, 2009 at 5:02 pm
Our defense has some holes but its SOOOOOOO much better under Marshall. If we had a Qb all year we would be winning this sorry a$$ division!
November 22nd, 2009 at 5:02 pm
And now lets talk half-time adjustmentzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
November 22nd, 2009 at 5:03 pm
Gradkowski was not sacked 2day
November 22nd, 2009 at 5:04 pm
Vegas well said. I think alot of players checked out after week 1. JaMeatball sucked the life out of this entire franchise.
Nice momentum going into Thanksgiving. I expect a good week of practice. Imagine our DEF is Al left Marshall completely alone! Dam!
November 22nd, 2009 at 5:04 pm
Vegas
My name should be on that list.
How did I do with my pats/Raiders/over?
November 22nd, 2009 at 5:05 pm
You see the poise Bruce had on the last drive??
How about the last TD. Looks one-way to draw the safety, and comes all the way across the field to single-coverage and puts the ball right on the numbers.
Jamarcus couldn’t do that in a 7 on 7 drill.
And the truth is, Bruce isn’t that great. He will have one stinker by the end of the year. But in one game, he has half as many wins and TD’s as Russell, and tied for the season record in completions.
11/22/09 should now be 00/01/00 AJ
After Jamarcus
November 22nd, 2009 at 5:06 pm
Not only is Gradkowski a better football player he can speak english and answer the medias questions after a game without looking like bozo the clown. Nice to see..
November 22nd, 2009 at 5:06 pm
And how about Jay Richardson at RDE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
GOOD PURSUIT
November 22nd, 2009 at 5:07 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
November 22nd, 2009 at 12:04 am
Grad throws 3 picks tomorrow, we lose by at least 14. I hope the camera catches Russell laughing at some point. You chumps deserve to see it.
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What do you know….The racist was wrong.
MR, you were making excuses for Grads playing better than Russell even before this game began. Admit it, you knew all along Russell was a chump.
Vegas – yep, we just needed an average QB. Not great, just average. Oh, and our O-line? It was never that bad to begin with. Ask Aaron Rodgers which line he’d rather play behind, our or his. Guy has way more problems with his O-line yet can find a way to play some good ball. The O-line was just another excuse used by all the RACISTS in here, like MR and KK.
November 22nd, 2009 at 5:07 pm
Plunketthead Says:
November 22nd, 2009 at 5:04 pm
How did I do with my pats/Raiders/over?
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Winner!!!! over/under was 36.5. Told you that you should have made the drive…..
November 22nd, 2009 at 5:08 pm
Some of you guys are really reaching. JR had 2 game winning drives this season (vs SD when Murphy dropped it and vs KC). Those are the facts.
November 22nd, 2009 at 5:09 pm
We still have no RB’s. Nice fumble Bush. Darren barely was servicable and Fargas is still Fargas.
November 22nd, 2009 at 5:09 pm
Terrapin blow it your a$$.
November 22nd, 2009 at 5:10 pm
And we almost scored 100 points in offence this year!
Ribs are cookin!!!!
November 22nd, 2009 at 5:10 pm
Still, the WR’s only caught 4 balls.
Bush only got 4 carries.
Only 21 minutes of possession.
November 22nd, 2009 at 5:10 pm
Peace out. Good win. But I’m not buying the Gradkowski kool-aid. I see past that.
If the defense looks better under Marshall …imagine how much better the offense would look with more competent coaches.
November 22nd, 2009 at 5:10 pm
trade JaMarcus for a 7th rounder now!
November 22nd, 2009 at 5:12 pm
RaiderTW, MR is a racist. Plain and simple. Look at some of his past comments. He wants, more than anything else, for this team to fail with a white QB.
November 22nd, 2009 at 5:12 pm
Terrapin Says:
November 22nd, 2009 at 5:08 pm
Some of you guys are really reaching. JR had 2 game winning drives this season (vs SD when Murphy dropped it and vs KC). Those are the facts.
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2 for 9 for Jamarcus, and 1 outta 1 for Bruce. Against one of the best Defenses in the league, statiscally speaking.
Again, Bruce isn’t great. But he can read a defense, lead a team not only on Sundays but Monday-Saturday, can scramble a little and inspires hope, not hopelessness like that stupid, fkn worthless Alabama anchor we had around our organizations neck.
November 22nd, 2009 at 5:12 pm
We have no feature RB because Cable doesn’t stick with one or two. He runs 3 every damn week. No one in the league does that. 2 at most. 3 is overdoing it. You get no one in rhythm that way.
November 22nd, 2009 at 5:12 pm
Romo just mentioned a key thing-Grad. takes accountability.after the fumble he told the center it was his fault.said it was nice to see him not throw his teammates under the bus.it was also nice to hear Grad say he told Nnamdi we need the ball-we need one big play.never heard anything like that out of the other guy.
November 22nd, 2009 at 5:12 pm
Vegas… Dmac will thrive with Grads imo…
we got some backs…like we said the little turns into alot and we got the horses’.Field General he is and will be.
November 22nd, 2009 at 5:13 pm
Cable continues to NOT have a clue on how to use Bush & Dmac affectively and then theres Fargas getting just enough carries to keep both those guys from getting into a rhythm.
DHB needs to have 1/2 the snaps he’s getting now he is KILLING this offense!
November 22nd, 2009 at 5:14 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
November 22nd, 2009 at 4:32 pm
Cowboys are going to destroy us.
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don’t say us !! say you guy’s your not a raider your a little bytch hater,
i don’t like JaDarrenBey !!! i don’t like cable! i hate al davis!! but i love the raiders we won goooooooo raiders
if you can’t be happy after a win for at least the afternoon then it shows yout true colors !!! probably gold and red as much of a whiner as you are.
let’s go beat them cowboy’s
November 22nd, 2009 at 5:15 pm
Bruno & Romo need their own radio show in the bay!
They kick a$s.
November 22nd, 2009 at 5:16 pm
Fuggin HATERZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ
Throw out the stats…Can you say WWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW???
WE
WINNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN
November 22nd, 2009 at 5:17 pm
why does routt somehow always stay on the fringe of me hating him he tweeters on the line.
November 22nd, 2009 at 5:17 pm
4eva I dont see anyone hating WTF are you reading ?
November 22nd, 2009 at 5:17 pm
Try Some Reality Says:
November 22nd, 2009 at 5:12 pm
RaiderTW, MR is a racist. Plain and simple. Look at some of his past comments. He wants, more than anything else, for this team to fail with a white QB.
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You’re a stupid assz.
Coward piece of shyt, come in here under an anonymous moniker, telling lies. Embarrassed to come in here under your regular handle?
November 22nd, 2009 at 5:17 pm
S Routt has a little sugar in his tank I think..
November 22nd, 2009 at 5:17 pm
all these negative talkers on here give me a break.Especially real madden raider.The raiders won,every win counts being a raiders fan cuz their tough to come by.Instead of losing and ruining my whole day and week they won which makes me a true raider fan happy as hell.Stop being so negative gradkowski was outstanding,the defense showed up,the team played 4 quarters,only 3 penalties the whole game,and finally the ball bounced their way.gotta remember this is a playoff caliber cincy team with an outstanding defense and for gradkowski to beat them in his 1st start of the year is quite impressive.2nd half they shut the bengals to 3 points made palmer incomfortable and stopped the run.Go raiders what a game and im gonna enjoy and soak it up.
November 22nd, 2009 at 5:18 pm
#157
Totally agree!
November 22nd, 2009 at 5:18 pm
Bruce didn’t win this game, our O-line and D-lines did.
Yes I said it, against a physical division leading team, we won the battle in the trenches.
After our offense scored, the rest of the team, and especially our D, played inspired physical, passionate football.
We have seen our team down 14-0 before under Jamarcus, and that ended, almost every time, with us just giving up the second half. Not today.
November 22nd, 2009 at 5:19 pm
I hope Jamarcus never steps on a NFL field again. I’ve said it all year that the best players need to play and look what happened, we looked like a real NFL team. I feel like the dark cloud of lazyness, lack of discipline, and stupidity that was embodied by Jamarcus has finally left. While I like dhb’s work ethic and heart, he needs to be on the bench, he’s just not ready. Ill be at the thanksgiving game, and I’ll be praying for once we don’t follow a huge win with a dud.
November 22nd, 2009 at 5:19 pm
Romo needs a job next year as our LB coach. The guy gets you fired up in the studio with a suit on imagine him at practice!
AL hire Romo!
November 22nd, 2009 at 5:20 pm
I think the 3 back system is working, keeps teams off step because of our ineffective O line, though I would like too see a 2 back with a slot, could be killer!
November 22nd, 2009 at 5:20 pm
Alright lets look at thie 4 what it is…it is what it is…
Pressure…Going No Where…1st Start…D PLAYS LIGHTS OUT!!! AGAIN AND AGAIN
GRADS DELIVERS
THE END
November 22nd, 2009 at 5:21 pm
Murphy: (paraphrase) “I didn’t know i could come in on my day off for extra work” LOL, gj Raiders management for promoting work ethic culture. Someone call Gannon.
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Did Murphy really say that? ..What a crying shame
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yep, the announcer quoted him during the review.
BTW, I was amazed the the refs forgot the screw Murphy on a booth review TD. Was there a substitute ref who didn’t get the memo?
November 22nd, 2009 at 5:23 pm
Whoever wants it, you pay postage and I will mail you my official Jamarcus black jersey. Seriously. No matter what he may do in the rest of his career, I hate him and will not act like a flip-flopper and wear his jersey.
Pay the postage and it’s yours.
November 22nd, 2009 at 5:24 pm
only downside to grakowski is his size he gets a lot of balls batted down at the line.His accuracy is amazing.dhb is garbage,murphy is solid and you could tell shillens still is hurting and not playing at 75%.Give bruce some more weapons and watch out.
November 22nd, 2009 at 5:24 pm
Why the FUG are the Bears on National TV again ?
November 22nd, 2009 at 5:24 pm
real madden raider, your a dumbass russel never would have found murphy his fat ass would have tripped and fell on his own feet, just like that stupid fuc mcfadden b.g. is the reason we won d.h.b. still sucks and we won hopefully that dumbass coach can play murph instead of d.h.b.
November 22nd, 2009 at 5:25 pm
There you go jhill, what a deal!
LMAO
# vegas raider Says:
November 22nd, 2009 at 5:23 pm
Whoever wants it, you pay postage and I will mail you my official Jamarcus black jersey. Seriously. No matter what he may do in the rest of his career, I hate him and will not act like a flip-flopper and wear his jersey.
Pay the postage and it’s yours.
November 22nd, 2009 at 5:25 pm
Vegas, calm down, please, your children may go to college by having that shirt!
November 22nd, 2009 at 5:26 pm
Kind of saw this coming. Even put a few bucks on the Raiders to win at a 3.5/1 payout. Cinci made a ton of mistakes but many mistakes were forced by our defense. Great job by the D today. They allowed too many 3rd-and-long conversions in the first half, but more than made up for it.
Gradkowski is clearly better than JaMarcus. Typically in the last few seasons a 7-point deficit seems virtually insurmountable in the 2nd half (which is of course ridiculous in itself). Not today. Never had that feeling that the Raiders were out of it. Gradkowski made some mistakes too but you see him keeping his eyes down field and doing just enough to keep the ball moving. Much better than JaMarcus.
That last Gradkowski pick would’ve been a TD to Murphy if he didn’t get hit on the pass.
November 22nd, 2009 at 5:27 pm
Jhill,you say the Off. played terrible today-only scored 10 points for 59 minutes.you fail to mention they scored 10 points in the last 1 minute-against one of the better def. in the NFL.the game is 60 minutes long.how many times in the last couple of years have we had the lead for,say,55 minutes only to lose the game?
November 22nd, 2009 at 5:27 pm
I wish you guys could have seen the Hilton theater. At the end of the game, the place was a ghost town as the Broncos were getting pounded, and the other games were already over, for the most part. Most bettors had the Bengals it seemed, but there was maybe four or five Raider fans in our gear getting rowdy.
One dude had a 3 leg parlay with the Raiders Moneyline on it. $100 to win $1,600. When the game was over he ran up and gave me a full on man-hug. Totally classic, complete strangers, and I hugged him more than I would my own mother.
November 22nd, 2009 at 5:28 pm
It’s amazing what this very talented team can do when given the chance to win.
Looking forward to Turducken and another upset in Big D!
November 22nd, 2009 at 5:29 pm
Vegas, 4eva, props to you. Talk shyt all week, ok?
November 22nd, 2009 at 5:29 pm
OK, that might have sounded a little gay, but I’m drunk, stoned, won some money and HAPPY AS HELL!!!!
November 22nd, 2009 at 5:30 pm
Thanks bro, i was actually at the game, just got back from the game. Man, tickets are cheap, few fans maybe max 27000, but we were really getting hyphy, burning some rubber, man it felt as if we won the SB Lol. I told MR we have a chance 2 win, where is he at?
# KoolKell Says:
November 22nd, 2009 at 4:55 pm
Congratulations 4eva,
Raiders4eve Says:
November 19th, 2009 at 5:05 pm
I hate AL Davis and wishes he passes away so that we can finally have a solid GM and a new owner (hopefully his son sells the team), but I have good feeling this week, I think Grad plays big, defense stays motivated and we win this game or lose with honor. No 2KC, Giants, Denver, Houston meltdown, more like SD, Philly, 1KC. Things like moving the chain, 1st downs, good running game, solid catching by Shcillens and Murphy. I am anticipating a change. Hopefully players play motivated with JABUST watching his friends performing and AL Davis accepting that JR is a clear bust.
November 22nd, 2009 at 5:31 pm
Jhill wants the games to be 55 mins long. Unless JaMeatloaf is playing of course! Poor Jhill is having a bad night.
# lefty12 Says:
November 22nd, 2009 at 5:27 pm
Jhill,you say the Off. played terrible today-only scored 10 points for 59 minutes.you fail to mention they scored 10 points in the last 1 minute-against one of the better def. in the NFL.the game is 60 minutes long.how many times in the last couple of years have we had the lead for,say,55 minutes only to lose the game?
November 22nd, 2009 at 5:31 pm
WTG V-man, brb, Got to turn those ribs, start the wings and make up some more kool-ade for all my boubters! lol
November 22nd, 2009 at 5:31 pm
It’s amazing what a little enthusiasm and good decision making will do for a football team.
Go Raiders!!!
November 22nd, 2009 at 5:32 pm
Not all postitives I guess. Our PR and KR are awful!!!
JLH is shook. Runs scared out there.
November 22nd, 2009 at 5:32 pm
Thats waht I call DRINKING IT DEEEEEPEEEPEPPPP VEGAS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
November 22nd, 2009 at 5:33 pm
MAN WISH I WAS THERE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
November 22nd, 2009 at 5:35 pm
Regardless of whos better at qb, what I saw today (about 1/2 on atdhe) was an inspired team with energy to compete. The D was on the field for almost 40 minutes. When was the last time they were on the field that long and didn’t mail it in? No Sacks! The o-line wanted to play. 3 penalties? They knew what they were doing today.
November 22nd, 2009 at 5:35 pm
Where’s MR???
I know, it was the “enhanced” playbook right? That WCO offense that went 80 yards to end the game, was stashed to sabotage Jamarcus right?
November 22nd, 2009 at 5:35 pm
You my friend are so UP jawalrusses ass that its funny, a win is a win, we would have gotten slaughtered if JaBustus was there, the game would had definitely been OVER when Cincy took a 14-0 lead, but guess what we had a real NFL QB taking the lead, sure hes not great, he mad mistakes, but one thing, HE kept his cool and brains too come up with good plays, unlike your boy JaBustus, if that no good for nothing was in there then we would had gotten beat, Cincy played good. you are a moron go in deeper in that ass hole why dont you and stay there.
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# The Real MaddenRaider Says:
November 22nd, 2009 at 4:21 pm
Gradkowski still sucks. Cincy choked this one, gave it to us. Same result if Russell had played.
November 22nd, 2009 at 5:35 pm
Jhill wanted so badly to come in here and kick dirt on Brad Satriani now hes all pissed off probably crying in his pillow.
Poor guy..
November 22nd, 2009 at 5:36 pm
2 Me this is some vindication not as much as we gonna get,imo.This team just needed mature leadership.We got horses’ all we need is a General
November 22nd, 2009 at 5:36 pm
MR bowed out gracefully, with a nod to you Vegas, lmao!
November 22nd, 2009 at 5:39 pm
MAn, we were yelling so crazy at the stadium but we only had 23000 to max 27000, not so loud but we were all happy 4 the win. Congrats to all the Raider fan, today is a good day
November 22nd, 2009 at 5:39 pm
Where’s 16year16yearfan?
Maybe we can start a fund to send him to Dallas. He’s the good-luck charm.
Talk to me 16…
November 22nd, 2009 at 5:40 pm
OK Bro’s, out for the night, got a feed on, east coast here, Savoring our win, as well as our dinner, munch on!
November 22nd, 2009 at 5:41 pm
Enjoy the ribs 860!!!!
November 22nd, 2009 at 5:41 pm
What’s my regular handle? That’s what I’d like to know. LOL. You’re a racist too. See below, as if I need to remind you.
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The Real MaddenRaider Says:
November 20th, 2009 at 4:07 pm
# KoolKell Says:
November 20th, 2009 at 3:57 pm
Vegas
We’ll see how the earnest, super intelligent, clean-cut, white feller, with proper “American ValUUUU’s, performs on the field Sunday, as the anti-Russell.
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LOL.
Spot-on analogy, Kell.
November 22nd, 2009 at 5:41 pm
KoolKell you know better this is OUR WIN!!!
November 22nd, 2009 at 5:43 pm
That 3rd and 20 something they gave up in the first quarter about killed me. If they ever plan on turning the corner, they gotta that crap out.
November 22nd, 2009 at 5:44 pm
Raiders4eve Says:
November 22nd, 2009 at 5:39 pm
MAn, we were yelling so crazy at the stadium but we only had 23000 to max 27000, not so loud but we were all happy 4 the win. Congrats to all the Raider fan, today is a good day
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You mean there were only 23K to 27K “real fans” as Oakglenn would say. LOL!
Davis has absolutely ran this thing into the ground. Luckily we no longer have a big dumb lazy POS as our QB. There’s a little hope. It’s just a glimmer, but I’ll take it.
November 22nd, 2009 at 5:44 pm
Partake ALL YE NATION!!! WE REALLY NEEDED THIS!!!!!!!
November 22nd, 2009 at 5:47 pm
KK is a race baiting liberal with his head firmly planted in his arse, old news!
# KoolKell Says:
November 20th, 2009 at 3:57 pm
Vegas
We’ll see how the earnest, super intelligent, clean-cut, white feller, with proper “American ValUUUU’s, performs on the field Sunday, as the anti-Russell.
November 22nd, 2009 at 5:47 pm
Benching JaMarcus for Grad was the right move. Now it is time to build on the win and bench DHB.
November 22nd, 2009 at 5:47 pm
November 22nd, 2009 at 5:44 pm
Partake ALL YE NATION!!! WE REALLY NEEDED THIS!!!!!!!
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Yep! Good win against a good team. Hopefully Grads & Co. can build on this. Hopefully Davis doesn’t ruin it by making the big Ogar start JaFatAzz. Stand up to the bully, Cable!
November 22nd, 2009 at 5:48 pm
For all the real rabid Al Daivs haters, we all are upset but some more so than other, this is a great first-step.
Jamarcus’ acting like he does nothing wrong while continuing to get starts for no other reason than Al made a mistake in the draft and is force-feeding to prove he wasn’t wrong, needed to be benched. Next step, Tommy Kelly and Darren, followed closely behind by DHB.
Turkey day is now a party!!!!
November 22nd, 2009 at 5:48 pm
Jhill where are you? You will get over this win just drink some hard alcohol and come back tomorrow!
lol
November 22nd, 2009 at 5:48 pm
To everyone who is saying Gradkowski did nothing Russell couldn’t, heres a few things.
17 completions. JR did this once, against Philly, in a win.
Over 175 yards: JR did this twice, against Philly and against the Chargers in the opener.
2 td passes: as many as JR has all year. enough said.
Rating:73.5 Jamarcus had one game with a higher rating, the Giants game when we handed off every play just to get it over with.
gradkowski came in and gave us the kind of performance that the numbers have proven is good enough to win us games. The 2 games that jamarcus played at the level gradkowski did today were 2 of the best games the Raiders played this season. if we can get this performance consistently from our qb whoever it is, maybe we can make noise on thursday.
November 22nd, 2009 at 5:51 pm
Ok, i’m out. Have a good day/evening still. Was a good one today. I sincerely hope they can build on this. Cheers!
November 22nd, 2009 at 5:52 pm
lefty12 Says:
November 22nd, 2009 at 5:27 pm
Jhill,you say the Off. played terrible today-only scored 10 points for 59 minutes.you fail to mention they scored 10 points in the last 1 minute-against one of the better def. in the NFL.the game is 60 minutes long.how many times in the last couple of years have we had the lead for,say,55 minutes only to lose the game?
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I didn’t fail to mention that, lol! I said about time we finally got a break. I said I’m glad I didn’t leave after that 3rd down pick that Grads threw. I said I was happy for Murphy.
And we’ve had the ball WAY too many times and lost. Totally agree with you there. I’m glad that the STs actaully stepped up and forced a fumble so we didn’t have to see if our defense would hold the Bengals.
Let’s be real, lol. What would the odds have been of us NOT letting Palmer walk down the field for a FG?
When was the last time our STs made a play like that to seal the game?
November 22nd, 2009 at 5:52 pm
Mista,
Why are you on Jhill so hard? Dude threw his support behind Gradowski this week.
November 22nd, 2009 at 5:54 pm
Mistabrown Says:
November 22nd, 2009 at 5:48 pm
Jhill where are you? You will get over this win just drink some hard alcohol and come back tomorrow!
lol
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You are such a clown! I said I was going to the store, which is why you finally started posting, lol! I’m back now, so you can go hide while we talk football.
Funny how you were the ONLY one is here saying Russell should still start.
LMFAO!
WTF are you even talking about? Why are you even talking to me?
November 22nd, 2009 at 5:54 pm
Again,
If Gradkowski was the best QB on the roster….and Russell was a lazy SOB……
Then why the HELL was he playing?
WHY THE HELL WAS HE DRAFTED?
We threw away another season! And if there was an option to win….I am not happy that the so-called professionals threw away the season trying to prove a point
November 22nd, 2009 at 5:56 pm
Its as if winning is not a priority.
If Russell is overweight, not preparing, not in the playbook, skipping practices etc…
Then what kind of man puts that lazy B>S attitude in front of the team and its fans.
We could have been competitive this year.
November 22nd, 2009 at 5:56 pm
Someone call in that KSFO show and tell them its one-game at a time
November 22nd, 2009 at 5:57 pm
vegas raider Says:
November 22nd, 2009 at 5:52 pm
Mista,
Why are you on Jhill so hard? Dude threw his support behind Gradowski this week.
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SistaBrown is a fuggin clown, Vegas. NEVER has any football talk, just his Ja-whatever the heck name calling.
Calls Priest and Oak 5 year olds b/c they call him names and the ONLY thing he contributes is Russell name calling. LMFAO!
Dude is a fuggin joke. He has ZERO interest in the Raiders doing well.
You and I have been debating the QB position all with the intent of making the team better. This clown can’t even put a good take together that bashes him. Best he can do is cut and paste other people’s takes.
November 22nd, 2009 at 5:58 pm
Gradkowski > Russell
Murphy/Schilens > DHB
Henderson > Gallery
Branch > Huff/Mitchell
Tell Davis to trade down!
November 22nd, 2009 at 5:58 pm
SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
November 22nd, 2009 at 5:54 pm
Again,
If Gradkowski was the best QB on the roster….and Russell was a lazy SOB……
Then why the HELL was he playing?
WHY THE HELL WAS HE DRAFTED?
We threw away another season! And if there was an option to win….I am not happy that the so-called professionals threw away the season trying to prove a point
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Too much invested in the big fat azz Bama dumsh1t. That, and Davis thought he was a “great player”. It’s all horsesh1t. Kiffin was right. Davis was wrong but he’ll never own up to it.
Just like he’ll never admit the fact that he was wrong about Crabtree and DHB. What a senile old goon!!
November 22nd, 2009 at 5:58 pm
# vegas raider Says:
November 22nd, 2009 at 5:52 pm
Mista,
Why are you on Jhill so hard? Dude threw his support behind Gradowski this week.
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jhill Says:
November 22nd, 2009 at 4:49 pm
Said the same thing about the other QB after the Eagles win.
Seriously, can we just enjoy the win with out bringing up the other QB?
Gradkowski was one dropped pick by Cincy on 3rd and 10 with under a minute to go in the game from you guys killing him.
November 22nd, 2009 at 5:58 pm
Thats why.
November 22nd, 2009 at 5:58 pm
Bush gonna be live on KFSO
November 22nd, 2009 at 5:59 pm
This was a great feeling Im happy we all have this moment. Let hope Al does the right thing and bring in gm and john gruden. Long live the raiders baby
November 22nd, 2009 at 5:59 pm
Exactly SnB!
And why the hell didn’t Murphy know that you could come to work on Tuesdays?
Do you realize that that says about the TEAM? Obviously that building is empty on Tuesdays. How could he NOT know?
And how is Russell not behind Frye on the depth chart? Has he done anything to earn the #2 spot?
November 22nd, 2009 at 6:00 pm
fake maddenraider is a jabustus supporter!!!! UNBELIEVABLE!! maddenraider must be a total retard.
November 22nd, 2009 at 6:01 pm
Have a good night, fellas!
November 22nd, 2009 at 6:02 pm
I know you liked that O-line play today JHill. Zero sacks, and if Bush didn’t fumble, we would have eclipsed 100 yards rushing against a team that doesn’t give up 100 yards usually.
Bruce ain’t great, he had I think 3 batted down passes, kind of wings it at time. But here’s the thing, he has the little things down. You don’t have to worry about that stuff, he was so under control on that 2 minute drive, it reminded me of Rich. A lot of poise and professionalism.
I chalk it up to college. While Jamarcus was throwing 18 passes a game and relying on the D at LSU, Bruce was chucking 50 passes a game in a ton of nail-biters at Toledo. Can’t supplement for experience.
November 22nd, 2009 at 6:02 pm
Damned hard fought game by our Raiders. If you can’t enjoy this you aren’t a Raiders fan. Considering he was playing against a team that held Roethlisberger to even worse stats I thought Gradkowski managed the offense well. There were a couple miscues but it’s expected from a guy who hasn’t played with the first team all year long. Good stuff, here’s hoping we can come back Thursday and play Dallas hard.
November 22nd, 2009 at 6:02 pm
Black ryan leaf should be 6th on the depth chart behind dmac and mbush and walter whom we cut…
November 22nd, 2009 at 6:02 pm
Jhill,
The leadership and coaching on this team doesn’t set up an atmosphere of discipline and commitment
A lot of the losses this year were do to poor concentration.
How else can one explain beating the Eagles and Bengals one week….and getting beat by the Chiefs or blownout by the Jets another.
Something isn’t right here………
Today’s game shows they are capable of more than 3-7
November 22nd, 2009 at 6:02 pm
And just say NO! to JaBustah
November 22nd, 2009 at 6:03 pm
lets see if the raiders can play tough against dallas this week. they just need to play close, win or lose.
November 22nd, 2009 at 6:03 pm
Mr. Davis has an organization conducive to failure…
November 22nd, 2009 at 6:04 pm
KSFO says Russell 20lbs overweight.
How does a franchise tolerate stuff like that?
Why does it take week 12 to figure out a guy like that needs a wake up call or be cut?
They (owner/coaches) threw this season in the waste basket
November 22nd, 2009 at 6:04 pm
Kind of nice with the wife working nights these days.
I get to smoke on the couch and listen to KSFO on-line.
Couldn’t be happier!! Guarantee I sell better tomorrow.
November 22nd, 2009 at 6:04 pm
See how stupid this guy is Vegas?
Is that his answer?
Cable came out after the Philly win and had the exact same PC he just gave. Told us all how the QB was coming along, and was putting the ball in all the right places. EXACT same shyt.
Gradkowski had at least 3 picks dropped and lead the offense to a TOTAL of 10 points with less than 30 seconds to go. The guy threw a pick to Joseph that he just flat out dropped. If he catches that pass, this blog is all over Gradkowski the same way it was over the other QB. The same way the are still on DHB, DMAC, Huff, Gallery, and every other player that doesn’t produce.
Now the ONE guy who said that Russell should start and not Gradkowski is coming in here AFTER the fact and talking shyt?
Where were you last week BEFORE we won?
LMFAO at this guy!
November 22nd, 2009 at 6:04 pm
great win for the team… Good job Grad, miles ahead of BRL….
November 22nd, 2009 at 6:05 pm
Jhill I have “football talk” all up and down this thread why dont you take up reading before you post.
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jhill Says:
November 22nd, 2009 at 5:57 pm
SistaBrown is a fuggin clown, Vegas. NEVER has any football talk, just his Ja-whatever the heck name calling.
November 22nd, 2009 at 6:06 pm
How in the F@ck does a guy making 30 mill bonus up front come in 1lbs overweight??? BRL is a fat lazy F@CK.. I dont like hiz fat AZZ so F@CK him and the horse he rides…
November 22nd, 2009 at 6:07 pm
vegas raider Says:
November 22nd, 2009 at 6:02 pm
I know you liked that O-line play today JHill. Zero sacks, and if Bush didn’t fumble, we would have eclipsed 100 yards rushing against a team that doesn’t give up 100 yards usually.
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But Bush did fumble. But they overcame the mistakes this week and were unable to do so in the past.
I still want someone to ask Tom Cable / Al Davis why they sacrificed a season on someone who didn’t work, showed up overweight, didn’t know the playbook and was lazy?
To throw away a season when its not necessary is unacceptable! I can understand sticking with someone who is trying their best and doing everything to get better…but when someone doesn’t even try…
How does the coaching staff justify wasting our season like that?
This team is not a playoff team…but they sure as hell not a 3-7 team either
November 22nd, 2009 at 6:07 pm
Jhill you were all set to defend JaMeatball and throw the O-line under the bus but Bruce Satriani fugged up your plans. Now you dont want us to talk about the “other” Qb.
Fraud!
November 22nd, 2009 at 6:07 pm
I’m glad I finally signed up after reading these threads for most of the season. Some of these so called ‘fans’ are sorry as hell. They only like them when they’re winning and when they’re not they wear their indy and pats jersy. Probably root for the lakers and yankees too.
I honestly think the offense will get a signifigant boost when Nick Miller comes back. He had a lot of promise in pre season. He’s got the speed and seemed like he had better hands then dhb. Also hed be a boss at returns.
As much as I hate porky (russel) I have to give him credit on being a $63 million dollar cheerleader on the sidelines. He’s good! U guys see him with the towel? Real talk I’m glad he was congratulatung Grad.
It really is unfortunate that a monster talent like porky is being wasted. Its his own fault. The raiders aren’t supposed to form an offense around him. He’s supposed to form to their offense. Also from what I heat in the bay area party scene is that porky is pretty deep in it. More specifically takin e on a regulat basis. So he’s probably hung over for 95% of practice. I dk about any of you guys but I’ve taken e several times and well, the after effect is your brain turns to mush. Ultimatly makes you stupid. Slow. And its hard to comeback. Make sense?
November 22nd, 2009 at 6:07 pm
Josh Freeman 6′6″ 248
BRL 6′6″ 275 plus…
F@CK u Black Ryan Leaf….
November 22nd, 2009 at 6:08 pm
Thec07 Says:
November 22nd, 2009 at 6:06 pm
How in the F@ck does a guy making 30 mill bonus up front come in 1lbs overweight??? BRL is a fat lazy F@CK.. I dont like hiz fat AZZ so F@CK him and the horse he rides…
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But what does that say about the guys that drafted/played him>
November 22nd, 2009 at 6:09 pm
Vegas,
I have to say I was a bit deflated by the time that last drive came around. Up until then, I was SO pissed! I saw NOTHING different up until that last drive. And even during that last drive, Grads throwing that potential pick to Joseph was something I don’t think I can take week to week. I saw the same thing with completions to the RBs and TEs, and Chaz. NOTHING from anyone else, including the RBs.
I swear to GOD I know EXACTLY what Dakota was talking about after the Philly win. My issue is with Cable and the staff, not Gradkowski.
Case in point, I’m trying to enjoy the Murphy TD, and the announcer comes out and drops the he didn’t know he could come to work on Tuesday bomb!
DAMN IT!
November 22nd, 2009 at 6:09 pm
FOX SPORTS ASKED THE QUESTION BEFORE ALL THE GAMES;
IS JAMARCUS RUSSELL A BIGGER BUST THAN RYAN LEAF.
I say no he is not a bigger bust, he is just the Black version… BRL is ryan leaf 2.0…
November 22nd, 2009 at 6:10 pm
Roch R Says:
November 22nd, 2009 at 5:28 pm
It’s amazing what this very talented team can do when given the chance to win.
Looking forward to Turducken and another upset in Big D!
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i’m frying my turkey lol
ive been trying to get a phesant for a week now and havent seen one. got a few quail yesterday though. what would that be called turphuail lol.
good job today grad he learned from last week DO NOT THROW IT TO BEY ON THE GOALINE WITH THE GAME ON THE LINE.
November 22nd, 2009 at 6:10 pm
SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
November 22nd, 2009 at 6:08 pm
Thec07 Says:
November 22nd, 2009 at 6:06 pm
How in the F@ck does a guy making 30 mill bonus up front come in 1lbs overweight??? BRL is a fat lazy F@CK.. I dont like hiz fat AZZ so F@CK him and the horse he rides…
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But what does that say about the guys that drafted/played him>
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Says we have an 80 year old ego maniac running this team into oblivion….
November 22nd, 2009 at 6:10 pm
Your not raining on my parade SnB. We invested in Jamarcus and had to give him his shot. He deserves nothing from here on out, he will have to earn it from now.
Glad the team realized it and is moving forward.
November 22nd, 2009 at 6:10 pm
rickydudlyphan,
Why did Davis/Cable waste an entire season with a guy that exhibited those negative traits behind the scene?
Why do the Raiders seem content to throw seasons away on things that don’t help a team grow?
November 22nd, 2009 at 6:11 pm
Probably because JaMarshmallow didn’t come in on his off days and the youngsters followed his lead.
jhill Says:
November 22nd, 2009 at 5:59 pm
Exactly SnB!
And why the hell didn’t Murphy know that you could come to work on Tuesdays?
November 22nd, 2009 at 6:12 pm
Mistabrown Says:
November 22nd, 2009 at 6:07 pm
Jhill you were all set to defend JaMeatball and throw the O-line under the bus but Bruce Satriani fugged up your plans. Now you dont want us to talk about the “other” Qb.
Fraud!
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Ok,
You got me. I must be a fraud if YOU say so, lol!
The guy who calls for Russell to start is calling the guy who called for Russell to be benched in week 2 a fraud. LMFAO!
Posters here are telling you I’ve been here supporting the QB BEFORE we come out with a win, while you were NO WHERE to be found talking up Grads.
Nice!
November 22nd, 2009 at 6:12 pm
Thec07 Says:
November 22nd, 2009 at 6:06 pm
How in the F@ck does a guy making 30 mill bonus up front come in 1lbs overweight??? BRL is a fat lazy F@CK.. I dont like hiz fat AZZ so F@CK him and the horse he rides…
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EVERYTIME THEY SHOWED HIM ON THE SIDELINE TODAY HE WAS EATING SUNFLOWER SEED’S.
guess it could be worse he could of eaten one of the players
November 22nd, 2009 at 6:13 pm
ENJOY NATION
November 22nd, 2009 at 6:13 pm
Have we not settled the argument now? Drop that loser Duhmarcus. I don’t want to see him take another snap as Oakland’s quarterback – ever again. I’m not saying Bruce is the long-term answer, but clearly Russell is an impediment to progress.
Cut and run, Al.
November 22nd, 2009 at 6:13 pm
BRL with the encouragement of Mr. Davis set this team spiriling backwards.BRL does not have the work ethic maturity mental make up to be an nfl QB…
November 22nd, 2009 at 6:13 pm
Mistabrown Says:
November 22nd, 2009 at 6:11 pm
Probably because JaMarshmallow didn’t come in on his off days and the youngsters followed his lead.
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Look at sista blaming the QBs for the rookie WR not knowing the building was open on Tuesdays.
LMFAO!
November 22nd, 2009 at 6:14 pm
Mike Bush just thanked Al Davis, LOL
November 22nd, 2009 at 6:14 pm
UP LOCOMOTIVE ENGINEER Says:
November 22nd, 2009 at 6:12 pm
Thec07 Says:
November 22nd, 2009 at 6:06 pm
How in the F@ck does a guy making 30 mill bonus up front come in 1lbs overweight??? BRL is a fat lazy F@CK.. I dont like hiz fat AZZ so F@CK him and the horse he rides…
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EVERYTIME THEY SHOWED HIM ON THE SIDELINE TODAY HE WAS EATING SUNFLOWER SEED’S.
guess it could be worse he could of eaten one of the players
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Only while camera was on him, the rest of the time he was imitating kobyashi eatin nathans hotdogs by the dozen, fat F@CKER…csnt stand hiz ryan leaf ass.
November 22nd, 2009 at 6:15 pm
vegas raider Says:
November 22nd, 2009 at 6:10 pm
Your not raining on my parade SnB. We invested in Jamarcus and had to give him his shot. He deserves nothing from here on out, he will have to earn it from now.
Glad the team realized it and is moving forward.
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But they knew this in summer time. I have to admit I was a Russell supporter because I didn’t believe some of things coming out. But when I heard of him being overweight and skipping meetings….and then the team finds a way to win a gritty game with a serviceable QB…I am not happy.
They threw away the season trying to prove a point.
Should have cut him the 1st time he missed a mandatory meeting.
I am serious when I say that.
They could have thrown this kid out there and the team would probably be 4-6 or 5-5……..but someone had to prove a point.
Next two to bench are DHB and McFadden….
November 22nd, 2009 at 6:15 pm
Jhill I call you by your name. I call priesttj by his name and even Oakglen.
Funny its you 3 guys that call me “sistabrown”. Whos acts like the 5 yr old? I call Russell names because he is a fat lazy POS, so what? Is he your boy friend or something? Is he your “bff” ? I know how bad you wanted to trash Bruce tonight thats your way of getting JaMarshmallow’s back.
November 22nd, 2009 at 6:16 pm
Its called “sarcasm”. Good grief we have another “oakglen” on our hands!
# jhill Says:
November 22nd, 2009 at 6:13 pm
Mistabrown Says:
November 22nd, 2009 at 6:11 pm
Probably because JaMarshmallow didn’t come in on his off days and the youngsters followed his lead.
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Look at sista blaming the QBs for the rookie WR not knowing the building was open on Tuesdays.
LMFAO!
November 22nd, 2009 at 6:16 pm
good job today grad he learned from last week DO NOT THROW IT TO BEY ON THE GOALINE WITH THE GAME ON THE LINE.
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LOL!
I actually give Cable credit for this weeks game winning drive NOT featuring DHB. Plenty of Miller, Chaz, and finally Murphy.
November 22nd, 2009 at 6:19 pm
Whose going to be first to add Gradkowski to their FF team?
November 22nd, 2009 at 6:20 pm
at least 4 or 5 passes were completed to the WRs today and almost everyone was a big completion.Russell very seldom even threw that many to his WRs.plus we had a big PI call on a pass the DHB.if someone comes here and says they see no difference between BG today and what we see from ‘the other guy’ every week it’s because they didn’t WANT to see it.
November 22nd, 2009 at 6:20 pm
JHIll,
I know it is easy to say this in hindsight, but even if that pick on the last drive would have happened, I still think Bruce kept us in the game more so than Jamarcus would have. Just my opinion.
Actually….if we would have just threw the pick I would have been OK, if it would have been a pick 6, I would have been irate (Raiders +9.5 LOL)
November 22nd, 2009 at 6:21 pm
Mistabrown Says:
November 22nd, 2009 at 6:15 pm
Jhill I call you by your name. I call priesttj by his name and even Oakglen.
Funny its you 3 guys that call me “sistabrown”. Whos acts like the 5 yr old? I call Russell names because he is a fat lazy POS, so what? Is he your boy friend or something? Is he your “bff” ? I know how bad you wanted to trash Bruce tonight thats your way of getting JaMarshmallow’s back.
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Why are you even talking to me? I just can’t figure it out! You are the ONLY poster in here saying I am supporting Russell.
Hmmmm!
DESPITE the fact I said Russell should be 3rd string and Frye should be ahead of him, you still shoot this bullshyt my way.
I don’t want to play you game, OK?
I don’t find you sarcasm funny at all. Go play with someone else. The fact that you are trying to be funny and making shyt up is why you act like a 5 year old.
Sweaters, left tits, Frauds, and all you other antics are what gets you the Sista tag. Pull your skirt down and stop acting like a biotch!
November 22nd, 2009 at 6:22 pm
Guys no war today, Lets enjoy the win. I have feeling Dallas will see a new Raider team with Grad, we can win I believe it and the players do, its human nature. With JR everyone knows we have no chance to win thank god that bum is in the bench cant wait till he gets cut.
November 22nd, 2009 at 6:25 pm
lefty12 Says:
November 22nd, 2009 at 6:20 pm
at least 4 or 5 passes were completed to the WRs today and almost everyone was a big completion.Russell very seldom even threw that many to his WRs.plus we had a big PI call on a pass the DHB.if someone comes here and says they see no difference between BG today and what we see from ‘the other guy’ every week it’s because they didn’t WANT to see it.
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Why didn’t the coaching/owner not see it earlier since they live with this day in and day out.
Its inexplicable why the owner/coach would play someone that didn’t work hard, was slothful, disrespected his teammates and basically threw away a season.
I am tired of these seasons being tossed away because the Owner wants to justify his stupid decisions.
Gradkowski probably should have been playing from week 1…..maybe GArcia.
I find it reprehensible that someone would show up overweight and not even bother to work hard.
Its even worse that an owner would ignore the obvious warning signs.
November 22nd, 2009 at 6:26 pm
I love all of these self appointed moderators in here telling us what to talk about. It just so happens some of us are smart enough to know that today’s victory was pure luck. And, guess what, I’m going to talk about THAT, instead of pretending we’ve turned the corner. We still don’t have a team. Not even close. I honestly didn’t see anything Gradkowski did today that Russell couldn’t have done. Not to mention, Gradkowski was given a complimentary running game that Russell was only given the first two weeks. Cable was obviously setting Russell up to fail. The guy hits girls, too.
November 22nd, 2009 at 6:26 pm
Jill, I could ask you the same thing! You have been sucking on Russells sack for the last 8 weeks blaming the O-line, the WR’s, the play calling, and today you want us to NOT talk about JR and you tried to play down todays win.
# jhill Says:
November 22nd, 2009 at 6:21 pm
Why are you even talking to me?
November 22nd, 2009 at 6:27 pm
How many 3 and outs today? How many each game with the fat guy at QB?
November 22nd, 2009 at 6:27 pm
Ill be the first to admit that so far porky has been a bust. He is NO ryan leaf though. Seriously do you guys actually remember that jerkoff? Snapping at the media. Meltdowns on and off the field. Porky sucks but at least he don’t act like that. He don’t really act at all really. Which is sad too lol.
You gotta remember why they drafted him to begin with. Coming out of LSU he was the best qb available. At the time porky was considered, and u could still argue that he still could be, athletically gifted. He could throw 80 yrds with the flick of the wrist. Throw 60 yrds from his knees! All the talent in the world! And a spread, shotgun every down offense at LSU. He had an offense at LSU that formed around him and was pass oriented. Deep too.
Now the raiders in the past 20yrs have been a west coast offence type of team. Why they’d draft a cannon like porky is beyond me. Well I’m sure it was also hard to tell that porky was gunna take the money and run.
Ralph Barbiari says it the best when it comes to him. What is the first thing you’d do if you won the lotto?
Quit your job!
And what happend to porky? 63 mil lotto winner and is literally spitting in the face of every raider fan here. He’s got his money why does he give two shts about anything else.
But whatever. Well prolly draft a qb next year. I’d take bradford if he slides that low.
November 22nd, 2009 at 6:27 pm
lefty12 Says:
November 22nd, 2009 at 6:20 pm
at least 4 or 5 passes were completed to the WRs today and almost everyone was a big completion.Russell very seldom even threw that many to his WRs.plus we had a big PI call on a pass the DHB.if someone comes here and says they see no difference between BG today and what we see from ‘the other guy’ every week it’s because they didn’t WANT to see it.
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That’s probably true, Lefty but it cuts both ways. I think you know that as a Raider fan, I am looking for something to hold on to. Something, ANYTHING to get us out of this rut.
But I clearly say Gradkowski throw 3 balls that should have been picked off. 2 of those balls where forced to the rookie WRs, IMO. The play where he forced the ball to Murphy on that first TD drive, and the deep ball to DHB in the end zone that DHB broke up. Not to mention the play at the end of the game to Joseph. Not to mention the fumble, and the batted down balls. Same things I’ve been seeing from the other guy. Nothing but completions to the TE and RBs and a work in progress with our young WRs.
In contrast, I watched the Detroit game and that Stafford kid is a QB. Flacco is a QB.
November 22nd, 2009 at 6:28 pm
It’s a team game. Grad’s wide receivers helped out by breaking up INTs even if they weren’t able to get position on the DBs every down. That’s what they’re supposed to do.
November 22nd, 2009 at 6:28 pm
No takers for my Jamarcus jersey???
Come on MR, it’s probably the only way to can afford it
November 22nd, 2009 at 6:28 pm
Here’s a stat for you JaMarcus lovers … Gradkowski ONLY 2 … thats right TWO 3 and outs in the WHOLE game. JaMarcus beats that with his first three series of every game.
November 22nd, 2009 at 6:28 pm
# Thec07 Says:
November 22nd, 2009 at 6:09 pm
FOX SPORTS ASKED THE QUESTION BEFORE ALL THE GAMES;
IS JAMARCUS RUSSELL A BIGGER BUST THAN RYAN LEAF.
I say no he is not a bigger bust, he is just the Black version… BRL is ryan leaf 2.0…
…………..
Your ancestors were probably pushing the slave ship, Thec.
November 22nd, 2009 at 6:29 pm
SnB
I feel the same way, if we had a decent QB, our record we would have had at least 6 wins, 2 against KC, 2 against SD, 1 philly, 1 cin. We would have been in wild card chase. Stupid AL
November 22nd, 2009 at 6:30 pm
Mistabrown Says:
November 22nd, 2009 at 6:26 pm
Jill, I could ask you the same thing! You have been sucking on Russells sack for the last 8 weeks blaming the O-line, the WR’s, the play calling, and today you want us to NOT talk about JR and you tried to play down todays win.
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Keep trying!
Since week 2, I have been saying Russell should be benched. On record, sir!
So can we stop with the BS now?
I put this right up there with Oak and SnB calling you a Browns fan. Do you get the point now?
If I’m a Russell supporter, then you are a Browns fan.
November 22nd, 2009 at 6:30 pm
The Raiders don’t have a team. Journeyman Gradkowski is no better than Russell. That’s why we have him. Who did we have to compete with in the FA market to get Gradkowski? LOL. I can’t even ask the question without laughing.
November 22nd, 2009 at 6:31 pm
Anyone seriously saying that Grad is no different from Jamarcus loses all credibility. How many games did #2 lead us to two TD drives this year? And against extremely talented defenses? Yeah, seriously, go gargle with arsenic because you’re out of your goddamned mind and there’s no hope for you.
November 22nd, 2009 at 6:31 pm
raideralex99 Says:
November 22nd, 2009 at 6:28 pm
Here’s a stat for you JaMarcus lovers … Gradkowski ONLY 2 … thats right TWO 3 and outs in the WHOLE game. JaMarcus beats that with his first three series of every game.
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So why did Davis/Cable play him all year?
I am tired of the buck getting passed to the players.
Its the Owner/Coach that makes the decisoin on who plays?
Are they not qualified to judge a QB’s play in camp/practice?
Showing up overweight, slothfull, indifferent, lazy and doesn’t learn the playbook….and he starts?
Forget blaming him for a second….Someone with authority decided to throw away the season on a player that didn’t deserve it!
November 22nd, 2009 at 6:31 pm
MR
Wassup man, remember i told you i have a feeling we would win this game? What is your thought share it with us? I still hate AL but it feels good to be a raider fan
November 22nd, 2009 at 6:33 pm
I’m going to say it real slow for you …
Russell should be the THIRD QB on the team. Russell should NOT be cut because we hav invested so much in him. Russell needs to EARN playing time.
CABLE is the ONE guy on this team who needs to go.
The defense needs to stop giving up 3rd and forevers!
The STs SUCK!
Erik Pears, Khalif Barnes, and Chris Morris should NOT be on the roster.
DHB and Murphy should NOT be starting.
Now I know you are going to read all of this and TRANSLATE it to something pro Jamarcus Russell.
I expect nothing less from you.
November 22nd, 2009 at 6:34 pm
Actually don’t share it with is, no on wants to here your pathetic excuses and clinging to what few relevant points you have ever made.
November 22nd, 2009 at 6:35 pm
Anyone else disturbed by all those 3rd and longs? We’d rush three and drop Warren back in coverage. Who the hell is Warren going to cover?
November 22nd, 2009 at 6:35 pm
Gradkowski was 17 for 34, 183 yards. 2 turnovers were his doing, one fumble and one pick. Yeh, we’ve got the next Peyton Manning, guys. Caldwell gave us the game. Everybody outside the kool aid nation, and Raider fans with actual brains, know it.
November 22nd, 2009 at 6:36 pm
Benching a Qb in his 3rd year getting paid millions in week 2 is down right moronic. You have to give him some rope. Now that he has hung himself like another poster said “let him win the job back” or retire young, dumb, and full of money.
November 22nd, 2009 at 6:36 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
November 22nd, 2009 at 6:30 pm
The Raiders don’t have a team. Journeyman Gradkowski is no better than Russell. That’s why we have him. Who did we have to compete with in the FA market to get Gradkowski? LOL. I can’t even ask the question without laughing.
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LOL … how much did Davis spend on JaMarcus and how much on Gradkowski.
Gradkowski and the Raiders could win the rest of their games this year and you being an azzhole would still come down on Gradkowski and make excuses for JaMarcus.
Seriously you are not a Raiders fan.
November 22nd, 2009 at 6:37 pm
Mistabrown Says:
November 22nd, 2009 at 6:36 pm
Benching a Qb in his 3rd year getting paid millions in week 2 is down right moronic. You have to give him some rope. Now that he has hung himself like another poster said “let him win the job back” or retire young, dumb, and full of money.
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B.S! If the guy is overweight, slothful, not bothering to read the playbook, skipping mandatory practices and indifferent…and lazy…
YOU DON’T PLAY HIM! PERIOD!
November 22nd, 2009 at 6:38 pm
ColoradoRaiderFan Says:
November 22nd, 2009 at 6:35 pm
Anyone else disturbed by all those 3rd and longs?
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Of course they’re not. As far as they’re concerned, we’ve turned the corner. They really think Gradkowski lit it up today. Look at his numbers. He stunk up the joint. They just can’t see it. They’re so eager to scapegoat Russell. This is the intellect of the modern day Raider fan. They’re borderline retarded.
November 22nd, 2009 at 6:38 pm
285.vegas raider Says:
November 22nd, 2009 at 6:20 pm
JHIll,
I know it is easy to say this in hindsight, but even if that pick on the last drive would have happened, I still think Bruce kept us in the game more so than Jamarcus would have. Just my opinion.
Actually….if we would have just threw the pick I would have been OK, if it would have been a pick 6, I would have been irate (Raiders +9.5 LOL)
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LOL. Don’t want to mess with the $ Vegas.
I find that statement funny though. You do realize that he would’ve ended up with 3 turnovers and only 10 pts, right?
And you would have been happy with that?
10 pts, and 3 turnovers?
LMFAO!
I don’t think I hate Cable as much as you guys hate Russell.
November 22nd, 2009 at 6:39 pm
raideralex99 Says:
November 22nd, 2009 at 6:36 pm
Gradkowski and the Raiders could win the rest of their games this year
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OMG, call your sponsor, now.
November 22nd, 2009 at 6:40 pm
LOL,
I think that did it for me, Vegas.
I’m out to watch the Laker game.
10 pts and 3 turnovers, and even in hindsight you would have been happy with that.
WOW!
November 22nd, 2009 at 6:40 pm
Now that brings us to DHB.
Why are we currently wasting snaps with this guy?
Murphy is plain outperforming him.
I don’t get it
November 22nd, 2009 at 6:40 pm
you can’t say 3 passes should have been intercepted,you mean 3 that could have been intercepted.some have said the rookie WRS never helped the fat bust out,well breaking up those possible ints is exactly what doing that.the difference is BG gave the WRs a chance-the fat bust never does.i’m sorry Jhill,but you constantly make excuses for Russell,even while saying you think others should take his place,yet you are being nothing but super critical of BG.you are not treating them equally.
November 22nd, 2009 at 6:41 pm
Caldwell gave us the game, but the last overtime game we played in we won, and we were the home team with all the momentum.
He just pushed forward the inevitable.
November 22nd, 2009 at 6:41 pm
Some of these guys think Gradkowski and the Raiders are going to run the table this year!!! OMFG… Keep demonstrating why everyone laughs at Raider fans.
November 22nd, 2009 at 6:41 pm
SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
November 22nd, 2009 at 6:31 pm
So why did Davis/Cable play him all year?
I am tired of the buck getting passed to the players.
Its the Owner/Coach that makes the decisoin on who plays?
Are they not qualified to judge a QB’s play in camp/practice?
Showing up overweight, slothfull, indifferent, lazy and doesn’t learn the playbook….and he starts?
Forget blaming him for a second….Someone with authority decided to throw away the season on a player that didn’t deserve it!
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We all know it’s AL’s call … why do you think Garica left?
I know for a fact if Garica started the season the Raiders would be 6-4 or 5-5 in a playoff hunt.
November 22nd, 2009 at 6:41 pm
only a raider fan would btch about a win. something russell COULD NOT do!!!! gradkowski got the guts and desire. something russell DOES NOT HAVE!!!
November 22nd, 2009 at 6:43 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
November 22nd, 2009 at 6:41 pm
Some of these guys think Gradkowski and the Raiders are going to run the table this year!!! OMFG… Keep demonstrating why everyone laughs at Raider fans.
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Are you just as dumb as JaMarcus.
Read it again … I said IF.
November 22nd, 2009 at 6:43 pm
Madden Raider, Are you so used to losing you can’t allow yourself the pleasure of winning? Stop being so negative.
To begin with, Russel has an accuracy problem. Secondly he knows who he’s throwing it to before the ball is snapped. He never looks off a safety. Gradkowski may not have all the tools J-marcabust has. He does do the little things. Now if we could ditch DHB. We might have a shot at Dallas.
November 22nd, 2009 at 6:43 pm
If you’re worried about the 3 “possible” int’s, how about the 4 that should have been intercepted last week? And some people said JR had a good game.
November 22nd, 2009 at 6:43 pm
oh yeah and some BRAINS!! that helps at quarterback too.
November 22nd, 2009 at 6:44 pm
Games aren’t all about stats JHill. We were in a game that we had no business being in. Can’t give the credit to Cable, so besides the D, who do we gave that to? Look no furthur than QB, who pushed the team during the week.
November 22nd, 2009 at 6:44 pm
Vegas Raider, either Caldwell gave us the game, or he didn’t. If you think we would have won anyway, then you by default can’t think that Caldwell gave us the game. Of course, you’d also be crazy.
The Raiders win a big game every year. Nothing new. It’s just so funny to watch the kool aid drinkers get their cat nip high off of it and start dancing in the streets. We’ve got guys predicting we’ll run the table now.
November 22nd, 2009 at 6:46 pm
SnB I agree he should have been challenged on his weight in pre-season or earlier. My thing is this once you start with him week 1, let him play it out. All they did was piss away the 8 weeks with him so the seaosn is lost. They should have benched him before week 1 or not at all…IMO
# SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
November 22nd, 2009 at 6:37 pm
B.S! If the guy is overweight, slothful, not bothering to read the playbook, skipping mandatory practices and indifferent…and lazy…
YOU DON’T PLAY HIM! PERIOD!
November 22nd, 2009 at 6:47 pm
bdapprich Says:
November 22nd, 2009 at 6:41 pm
gradkowski got the guts and desire
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gradkowski sucks. look at his numbers. he only got the touchdown pass because Cincy was playing soft. Cincy killed themselves to day with making mistakes. IF there’s anything the Raiders did to pat themselves on the back for, it’s BLITZING. Bengals never saw it coming. Gradkowski? Irrelevant. Same result today if Russell plays.
November 22nd, 2009 at 6:47 pm
Let’s give credit to the 6th round pick that caused the fumble to set up the win. And the 2nd round pick with two red zone tackles to force a field goal. And the 1st round pick ………… he fell down and got a call.
November 22nd, 2009 at 6:47 pm
I just hope the team doesn’t do a repeat performance after a win like they did vs. Jets. ugh!
November 22nd, 2009 at 6:48 pm
When was the last time we had two wins in a row? Please don’t say 2002.
November 22nd, 2009 at 6:48 pm
All 3 of our victories this year came at the hands of either blitzing or a running game. Both of our QBs suck. The QB position has been irrelevant in all 3 wins.
November 22nd, 2009 at 6:49 pm
# SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
November 22nd, 2009 at 6:40 pm
Now that brings us to DHB.
Why are we currently wasting snaps with this guy?
Murphy is plain outperforming him.
I don’t get it
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DHB didn’t even catch much in college. He played for crap QBs in offenses that weren’t pass crazy.
This year, the Raiders are overcompensating for their stupid mistake last year of playing washed-ups like Lelie instead of Higging and Schilens.
Murphy is good enough to be eased into the lineup. DHB is way too raw to be a fulltime starter.
Both plus inept JR = 2-7 first half.
November 22nd, 2009 at 6:49 pm
i disagree. i keep watching russell lose and lose and lose. he would have lost today also. russell SUCKS BIG TIME!!! hes a loser. hes done in this league.
November 22nd, 2009 at 6:50 pm
I think I hate Jerry Jones as much as as i hate Al. I don’t care if the team goes winless the rest of the season as long as they beat those pansy cowboys.
November 22nd, 2009 at 6:50 pm
Everybody is going to disagree on why we won today and the QB position is the topic of the day obviously. I personally think Gradkowski managed the game better today. I thought he was more smooth. His passes were more accurate no matter what the call was. We still made mistakes but he still kept moving the ball. Bush fumbled, Gradkowski threw an interception and fumbled a snap and there were the usual drops by people like DHB but this team despite all the mistakes still kept moving the ball and thats what impresses me.
Gradkowski hasn’t played a full game in awhile so you have to give him credit. He wasn’t going to be perfect after not starting for awhile but he managed the game pretty well. Now…the Bengals probably weren’t as prepared for Gradkowski as they were for Jamarcus so the more game film of Grad with the Raiders, the harder things will be for him. We haven’t scored 20 since week 1. Jamarcus Russell threw 2 interceptions all season long and Gradkowski managed to throw 2 in 1 game.
Heres the point, we won with him today and I’m hoping the season can continue to improve with him as the QB. I don’t care who plays QB so long as they can win games and in the end, he did what he needed to do to win and most games need a little luck to go their way but hes a better manager, more accurate and softer passes plus hes mobile and our offensive line didn’t allow any sacks today which says alot as well. We didn’t even run that well today, which is also a testament to what Gradkowski had to do and I thought he lead the team well.
November 22nd, 2009 at 6:51 pm
OK Vegas, I’ll take you up on the jersey. Only because I’m a huge Raiders fan and big LSU fan.
Where to send the postage money?
November 22nd, 2009 at 6:52 pm
I meant…Jamarcus threw 2 Touchdowns all season long and Gradkowski managed to throw 2 in 1 game.
November 22nd, 2009 at 6:52 pm
bdapprich Says:
November 22nd, 2009 at 6:49 pm
i disagree. i keep watching russell lose and lose and lose. he would have lost today also. russell SUCKS BIG TIME!!! hes a loser. hes done in this league.
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Again, the coaches/owner knew that Russell quit in camp. When he showed up slothful, overweight, lazy, skipping mandatory meetings and not learning the playbook…why the hell was he just given the starting job?
I am tired of losing. And the ownership seems to sabotage this team every year. Last year…it was abotu keeping Kiffin going into the season when you know you are going to fire him….
Too many seasons thrown away for no good reason
November 22nd, 2009 at 6:54 pm
Hey mr. The fact that grad got the start over porky. Says that cable obviously is trying to light a fire under his fat ass. He obviously isn’t doing anything right if he lost his job to grad. Grad suck. He’s a mediocre qb at best and likely wouldn’t even be the 2nd string on most teams. Its simple. He’s suypposed to be our goto guy. And he isn’t doing his job. And has only really done it 3 games this year. I understand that he’s working with a rookie receiving core that is dropping balls left and right and the running game isn’t consisant. But he’s our franchise. And mannerisms on and off field speak loudly to everyone. When porky gives up a pick he sits on the bench and sips juice, fixes his ear ring, scratches his ass. Shouldn’t he be talking to the head coach, off. Coach, wr coach, o coach, o line, wrs, backs??? Getting on the same page? Why did I throw a int? What went wrong with the rout? Etc. Fck, call al davis and work something out.
I’m glad he’s benched. The raiders are more of a team when he is.
November 22nd, 2009 at 6:54 pm
russell will never start another game in the nfl. done.
November 22nd, 2009 at 6:57 pm
when you invest over $60 million in somebody unfortunately you have to give him more rope.also,today after he dropped an early pass,DHB played a pretty good game.sure he has sucked for the most part,but he needs more opportunities to work himself out of the funk he is in.rotating the 3 WRs will benefit them all in the long run.knowing the ball might come your way more than once a game will help all of them become more consistent.
November 22nd, 2009 at 6:57 pm
Russell will start again. Unfortunately it’ll probably be for us. Then he’ll get a chance somewhere else.
Ryan Leaf started a few games for Dallas after getting bounced out of SD.
November 22nd, 2009 at 6:58 pm
# bdapprich Says:
November 22nd, 2009 at 6:54 pm
russell will never start another game in the nfl. done.
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Neither will Gradkowski after this season.
November 22nd, 2009 at 6:59 pm
ill be back to apologize when russell starts and wins his next nfl game. dont hold your breath.
November 22nd, 2009 at 6:59 pm
504,
e-mail me at raidersfanlv@yahoo.com
We can work it out. Tough lose for your Tigers yesterday.
November 22nd, 2009 at 7:04 pm
Well…looks like the franchise Qb was a significant factor in the team’s inability to put together 60 minutes of football thus far.
November 22nd, 2009 at 7:04 pm
sounds like al pssed away $60mil.
November 22nd, 2009 at 7:05 pm
Will do Vegas. Yeah, Les Miles is hiding down here more than JaMarcus is in Oakland.
November 22nd, 2009 at 7:06 pm
youre welcome for the win lol both times i went to a game they win
November 22nd, 2009 at 7:07 pm
Give credit where credit is due, the offense was much more fluid, it was competitive. The QB was energetic and played with a sense of urgency confidence. Hopefully he gets better. While Grad isn’t the long term answer he is a cmpetent game manager. He is more accurate and sees the field much better, he also throws the ball on time and with confidence.
Is he a great QB?, hell no!. Is he what’s needed right now until we either get our guy going or get a guy? Absolutely. He will throw picks and make mistakes because he is a young QB as well. But he plays a lot faster and with confidence than Russell. That defense knew they had a chance if they coukld get the ball back to the offense, they did and we won.
Those that think Grad is a player are mistaken he is someone you can use until yu get a guy…………period
On the other hand this defense is legit. The front 4 is very good and the entir defense is very competitive. After the midway 2nd qrtr they handed the Ben-Gals their rear ends on a platter. They physically beat them up. The DT’s on this team are very good. Jay Rich has turned into a very good player even T Scott has turned the corner. Matt S is aon his way to being outstanding and Dez Bryant is rare find.
November 22nd, 2009 at 7:09 pm
LOL at the Lakers being up 20 in the 1st qtr.
We REALLy have a chance to beat the Cowboys next week. 7 total points in 2 weeks right?
Our defense is playing really well against the run and their passing game is stuggling big time right now.
November 22nd, 2009 at 7:10 pm
About that early DHB drop. I think Gradkowski made it a point to go right back to him so he can let DHB know that he has confidence in him.
Direct opposite of what we heard about JaMarcus lost confidence in DHB early in the season and that’s why he doesn’t look his way.
I guess it’s just an example of leadership shown by Grad.
November 22nd, 2009 at 7:15 pm
gradkowski has never had a chance to start. goofy chucky tried to start him his rocky season in tampa bay and he wasn’t ready. he has the skills. he’ll get better every game.
November 22nd, 2009 at 7:19 pm
Well as Cable has said he and Frye really work their butt off to get better. It a real Questin as to wether Russel think he should or shouldn’t. That should give anyone pause.
November 22nd, 2009 at 7:19 pm
I don’t think we know much about Grad yet. Obviously, clearly, he’s better than Russell at this point. Though he doesn’t appear to be a pro-bowler in the making, I’m going to give him the rest of the season before I conclude anything, i.e., he’s just a temporary solution,etc.. He COULD be sort of a Garcia-in-his-prime type QB. But all that matters now is that he gives us a chance to win. I loved seeing that inspired defense at the end of the game–a direct result some confidence in the offense. Imagine how confident they’ll be next week.
November 22nd, 2009 at 7:19 pm
Real Madden Raider,
Are you JaMarcus? His agent? Or just in his entourage?
Everyone else sees the obvious. No, Gradkowski is not Peyton Manning. But at least he showed he can fire up the offense and make some competent throws and run an offense that resembles something above a Pop Warner sh-tshow.
November 22nd, 2009 at 7:21 pm
jhill im 99.9% of the time with u but r dfnse is playing good against the run WHAAAAAAAAAT we let the bengals rush for 160 yards with no benson and a no name running back whose name i already forgot is not good but they did do a better jobin the 2nd half but the key to beating the cowgirls is stopping the run u know wade in his history will rely on that in his scheme on thursday we stop the run we can win this game
November 22nd, 2009 at 7:21 pm
Well said, Chris.
November 22nd, 2009 at 7:26 pm
right on chris in ny
November 22nd, 2009 at 7:28 pm
Dave R,
Stopping the cowgirls is all about Miles Austin. Check out the stats. When he doesnt produce, they can’t score. I guarantee you we shut down their O if we shut down Miles.
November 22nd, 2009 at 7:30 pm
put 21 on miles and see what he he does just like ocho he might win th battle but will lose the war
November 22nd, 2009 at 7:30 pm
heart can take you a long way in this game. without it you dont belong in the nfl.
November 22nd, 2009 at 7:36 pm
All of you guys down on Gradkowski…
He’s not a pro-bowler… he still sucks, just better than Russell… etc.
He’s done something Super Bowl winning QB Ben Roethlisberger hasn’t done this season…
HE BEAT THEM BENGALS!!!
WHO DAT? THE OAKLAND RAIDERS BEEOOTCHES!
November 22nd, 2009 at 7:38 pm
What’s the deal w/ Seymour’s injury? Jerry come on!
November 22nd, 2009 at 7:42 pm
Who Dey ?? Who Dey ??
THE RAIDERS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
MAN THIS FEELS GOOD.
UNLESS YOUR MR.
November 22nd, 2009 at 7:44 pm
Chris in NY Says:
November 22nd, 2009 at 7:19 pm
Real Madden Raider,
Are you JaMarcus? His agent? Or just in his entourage?
Everyone else sees the obvious. No, Gradkowski is not Peyton Manning. But at least he showed he can fire up the offense and make some competent throws and run an offense that resembles something above a Pop Warner sh-tshow.
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HE’S HIS PERSONAL BALL WASHER YOU CAN HAVE ONE TOO IF YOU EVER STEAL 36 MILLION DOLLARS.
November 22nd, 2009 at 7:51 pm
dave r Says:
November 22nd, 2009 at 7:21 pm
jhill im 99.9% of the time with u but r dfnse is playing good against the run WHAAAAAAAAAT we let the bengals rush for 160 yards with no benson and a no name running back whose name i already forgot is not good but they did do a better jobin the 2nd half but the key to beating the cowgirls is stopping the run u know wade in his history will rely on that in his scheme on thursday we stop the run we can win this game
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You’re right, Dave!
But a lot of that 160 came on that big run by Scott. ANd if Nnamdi wasn’t trippin’, it should have been a 6 yard loss. Nnamdi just KNEW it was a PA fake and ran right by Scott.
Overall, the Dline played really well against the run. But like always, it’s just a big play here, or a big play there and we end up giving up pts. Just like those 3rd and 20’s we gave up on the first drive. I thought the defense played well enough to keep Cincy under 14 pts.
November 22nd, 2009 at 7:51 pm
MR is two faced liar. He claims to be a raiders fan and then roots against them during the game. Go back and read the threads. Pretty much everyone was owning him during the game and he even started crying. Meltdown in mid game.
November 22nd, 2009 at 7:51 pm
I asked this question before and no one replied.
How much guaranteed money does JaWalrus have left? With the uncapped year, if his guaranteed money is almost gone, we can force him to renegotiate and if he refuses, just flat out cut him. It would be similar to the Javon Walker situation where the renegotiated amount would still be much higher than what he would get on the open market.
So how much does he have left??
November 22nd, 2009 at 7:51 pm
the gutter rat isn’t a Russell fan.when people were talking about JR busting out in the pre season,the gutter rat was on here talking about how terrible he was.he just comes on here and spouts anything he can that contradicts what everyone else is saying at the moment.
November 22nd, 2009 at 7:52 pm
If we can pull a win on the Cowgirls, we can really be on to something for the franchise. I think we have a decent chance too. There’s nothign about the cowgirls that scare me. Cincy’s D is better than the cowgirls. The Cowgirls O is nothing special.
November 22nd, 2009 at 7:52 pm
I think we have a REALLY good chance of beating the Cowboys if our defense can get off the field on 3rd and long. I think we can hold them to under 14 pts, and steal one on Turkey day!
November 22nd, 2009 at 7:53 pm
I have no idea Crimedogg.
November 22nd, 2009 at 7:54 pm
crimedog, i am pretty darn sure they will reneg his contract next year. he can’t go any where else either cuz no one wants him unless phil savage gets back into the league as gm.
Lefty,
Mrs is a just an attention whore.
November 22nd, 2009 at 7:55 pm
Jhill,
so true. giving up 3rd and forever has been our issue for a long time.
November 22nd, 2009 at 7:57 pm
that was a good win i wasnt really rooting for gradkowski but he did fine not much better than russell just had more help i think its funny that somebody was saying that if the oline held for another second gradkowski wouldnt have threw that pick its the same oline jamarcus was playing with the play calling was different too i didnt see as many deep routes by the wr either but whatever it was a good win im a raiders fan not a russell fan so im happy but im not as enamored with gradkowski as some of you are hes not the savior he had a pretty jamarcusesque but with more help it reminded me of the eagles game we blitzed palmer and had more conservative playcalling but it seemed like we ran the ball more than we have all year
November 22nd, 2009 at 7:57 pm
yeah it was nice to see 21 maket htat final int after whiffing on that corner blitz and ran right by the ball carrier.
November 22nd, 2009 at 7:58 pm
Lefty,
Saw your post earlier. Not being super critical of Grads at all. I’m behind him and Fye all the way. I think two of the potential picks I’m talking about would have been on the young WRs. Murphy was late getting to the spot (I guess), and DHB didn’t get open on that deep pass. DHB wasn’t open on that play where he drew the PI either. I don’t think that the ball should be going his way as much as it is. It seems like they are forcing the ball to him come hell or high water.
Grads did just fine throwing the ball to the RBs, Chaz, and Miller. I hope to see a lot more success with that group, mixed in with some production from the young guys.
November 22nd, 2009 at 8:00 pm
16,
it was me who said we needed 1 more sec or even a half sec. here is the issue. Jamarcus had the exact same play vs the Jets. And he threw behind watkins in the endzone only to have Revis intercepted the ball. Then he went to the sideline being all upset that Watkins didnt fight for the ball. Cable later pointed that it would take Superman to make that catch. I agree with Cable.
The diff is Grad is much much much more accurate than Russell. he at one time completed 70% of his throws in college. So the track record is there. If he had 1 more sec, I think he would have nailed that pass.
November 22nd, 2009 at 8:00 pm
Most amazing today:
Down by 14, they didn’t quit.
The energy.
D on the field for 40 minutes, and still won.
November 22nd, 2009 at 8:00 pm
Just saw we’re 14-point dogs to the Cowgirls. WTF is that all about? Stopping the run is really what it’s all about. The numbers haven’t looked good for the Run D this year but it doesn’t feel as bad as it has in years past. Often they stop the run over and over and give up one huge run like they did today to Bernard Scott and last week to Jamaal Charles. The offense’s inability to sustain drives this season has also put opponents in position to run a lot. Hopefully Gradkowski plays even better on Thursday and we shock Dallas too.
I’m probably going to be out at relatives at that time, but I’ve got a call into Lechler. I’m going to ask him on our first punting down to kick it off the scoreboard 1,001 times so I’m home in time for the action to pick up again. Either that, or I can DVR it.
November 22nd, 2009 at 8:01 pm
i think the benching was bad timing too the game that chaz is back starting is the game russell is benched
November 22nd, 2009 at 8:01 pm
16,
in the first KC game, JR did the same thing again too. Murphy was open in the post and JR threw behind him as well. That’s jR’s prob he can’t throw it accurately due to poor mechanics.
November 22nd, 2009 at 8:03 pm
aig if you want to go by college stats didnt russel have like 68% passing in college too
November 22nd, 2009 at 8:03 pm
# bdapprich Says:
November 22nd, 2009 at 6:59 pm
ill be back to apologize when russell starts and wins his next nfl game. dont hold your breath.
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I’ll be back to apologize when Gradkowski starts for any team after this season. I’ll also be back to apologize when the Raiders win 3 games straight, or more than 5 wins in a season, while Al Davis is still alive. Don’t hold your breath.
November 22nd, 2009 at 8:07 pm
Since you’re all in such a good mood, any of you ready to man up and predict the final record? I’m going with 4-12. I also predict both Gradkowski and Cable are gone after this season. Anyone disagree?
November 22nd, 2009 at 8:07 pm
I don’t think that anyone is claiming the Grads is the savior. But, in his first start in over a year, throws two TD’s (both on long drives) which is as many as Russell has thrown all year long, it just shows that Grads is better than russell at this point in the season. That’s not really saying much, but it
is something worth noting. A little passion and effort can go a long way. Something that we have not seen all year from the QB position.
November 22nd, 2009 at 8:07 pm
Russell dropping like 25 pounds would probably help him more than anything. Just being able to drop back and move around the pocket quicker would be huge for him. It was nice today having a QB that didn’t look like a sloth every time he dropped back. If Russell never drops weight, he will NEVER be a good QB in the league, no matter what team he’s on.
November 22nd, 2009 at 8:07 pm
real mr let me guess. you live in denver.
November 22nd, 2009 at 8:08 pm
Aig,
Russell completed over 60% of his passes in college. pretty close #s to Grads, and in a tougher conference, right?
Gradkowski was 17 of 34 for 183 yds today with 80 of the yds coming on the last drive.
Right up until 1 min left in the game our QB had passed for all of 100 yds, and our backs had combined for all of 75 yds.
Our defense played their asses off today, and our STs came through with a big play. Let’s hope our defense can keep it up next week, and our STs can hold Felix Jones down on KRs.
November 22nd, 2009 at 8:08 pm
Jhill,he had single coverage,on both the pass into the endzone and the PI play.instead of the pass being thrown into double or triple coverage,it was thrown to the Rec. who was 1 on 1-in other words it was thrown to the proper place.
November 22nd, 2009 at 8:09 pm
told you we had a chance. jamarcus sucks the hope out of the team… thank you D, you won!
November 22nd, 2009 at 8:11 pm
dont forget bengals have a good defense. they are the number 2 sead in afc going into today. no one has hung a lot of yards on them this year. grad was respectable.
November 22nd, 2009 at 8:12 pm
The defense and STs should be dominating the talk here. The QB, no matter who he is, is handicapped by an in ept playcaller, and inexperienced WRs.
50% completion and 180 yds passing and 2 turnovers from the QB.
Bush had 4 frickin carries! 4 carries? While he was averaging 7 yds a carry?
Fargas got the lions share with 8 carries for a whopping 30 yds.
The offense makes no sense to me.
November 22nd, 2009 at 8:13 pm
texguy
i dont want it to seem like im against the raiders because gradkowski is in but this is the same gameplan we had when we beat philly except we ran the ball more it seemed like the rbs carried the drives with a couple throws mixed in until grad was close enough to throw a td something we didnt really do with russell we ran the ball a couple times but mostly deep throws
November 22nd, 2009 at 8:15 pm
Lefty it certainly helps that he was able to look at both sides of the field. It’s hard to find those 1 on 1 matchups when you van only look at 1 receiver.
November 22nd, 2009 at 8:15 pm
Texguy, bdapprich,
Guys ready to put a little confidence in your boy Gradkowski with a prediction of this year’s final record? I’m going 4-12. Better or worse?
November 22nd, 2009 at 8:15 pm
That’s a good point, Lefty. Can’t argue with that.
Nevermind the fact the DHB wasn’t open, lol.
And to be clear, my point is that I’d rather see Javon Walker against that single coverage or even Murphy. Murphy makes the play against single coverage, and is even OPEN when he’s doing it. He was open today because the D was busy with Miller and Chaz.
November 22nd, 2009 at 8:16 pm
Tex,
The issue is that Russell REFUSED to look DHBs way, not that he couldn’t see him.
CMON!
November 22nd, 2009 at 8:17 pm
16,
JR had 1 good season in his combined college and pro career. Other than that, he has not shown any consistent track record as an accurate qb other than his arm.
Listen, in no way am I saying Grad is probowl material. All that i wanted was someone competent that IS NOT a liability for us. Grad provided that today. JR has yet to show it and I sincerely hope he changes his lifestyle and learn to be a pro. Even people are saying that Vince Young is a different person now. They’re all young kids so I will cut them slack but they should not be playing when they are not ready….only cuz of crzy Al.
November 22nd, 2009 at 8:18 pm
Jhill,once again you keep bringing up the point that until the last drive his stats were such and such.the games are 60 minutes,not 58.so you shouldn’t be discounting the last drive-it was part of the 60 minute regulation game.the last drive counts just as much as the 1st drive,or a drive ending the 1st half,or the drive opening the 2nd half,or…….
November 22nd, 2009 at 8:18 pm
tex russell didnt want to throw to dhb im 95% sure if it was murphy and chaz or walker and murphy he would throw to both sides of the field i really dont think its a coincidence that its the side dhb is on that he doesnt look to
November 22nd, 2009 at 8:18 pm
Jhill,
I think this is where Cable was able to convince Al to bench JR. Al wants to prove to everyone that DHB is a good pick. But if JR is not looking his way then he cant prove that point.
November 22nd, 2009 at 8:20 pm
16 you are right, but only because grads was able to sustain those run heavy drives with a complete pass. Not all the time but we were not getting 3 and outs the whole game.
November 22nd, 2009 at 8:21 pm
aig
i dont know about the whole 1 good season thing but you brought up grads college numbers i think 68% in the sec shows that you have had accuracy at some point in your career especially if 70% in whatever conference grad was in counts
November 22nd, 2009 at 8:23 pm
I wouldn’t want to throw to dhb either.
November 22nd, 2009 at 8:24 pm
i predict russell wont win another game this year.
November 22nd, 2009 at 8:24 pm
texguy
thats all i was trying to say but in the eagles game when we werent throwing deep all day he did sustain those drives except for the 4th and 1 when he missed murphy
November 22nd, 2009 at 8:24 pm
Aig,
That’s probably true, and Russell was wrong to just ignore the kid. The equivalent of freezing him out of the offense, and and puts us in a 10 against 11 set. Russell was clearly hurting the offense by ignoring one side of the field. Clearly. Throw the ball to DHB and let him play his way to the bench.
November 22nd, 2009 at 8:26 pm
today we had 2-count them -2 3 and outs.going into this game we had more 3 and outs than any team in the NFL.you can say BG isn’t the solution,but you can’t say JR isn’t one of the major,if not the major, problems.
November 22nd, 2009 at 8:27 pm
As I’ve said before, TexGuy, and as long as you guys don’t have a response for it, I’m going to keep saying it.
1) Russell was not given a running game, except for weeks one and two, where we won the second and just missed the first, due to a poor defensive scheme late in the game.
2) Russell has been forced to throw deep passes at much too high a rate for any qb with any skill or any specialty. I’ve heard you guys say that it’s his arm. He’s equipped for it. OK then, so why not a more current deep passing offense? Some kind of run and shoot or something like what the Colts use? Russell is running plays we ran in the early ’80s. Russell was judged on his ability to run an offense that NO QUARTERBACK IN THIS LEAGUE TODAY could run.
I was never big on Russell, except for after week 1 when, really, I was conceding to all of the people who predicted we’d be good. At that point, we looked good. I started drinking the kool aid. But for the most part, I was never big on him. But I don’t like the way he’s being scapegoated. It just reeks. I don’t know what the motivation is behind it, but when you keep hearing these comments about him being dumb, along with all of the “beanie” and hip hop jokes, it just makes me wonder. It’s not about race? Fine. Then cut the racial insinuations. Or denounce others that keep doing it. Because as long as they’re flying, along with what I said about the plays that were called for him, it raises a fair question as to rather or not Russell was set up to fail by an azz h ole coach who we already know hits women, and who very well might hate arrogant black quarterbacks (read, black quarterbacks, not arrogant white quarterbacks) as much as he hates women being forward with him.
I wanted Russell to be benched for his gameplay from day ONE. I never had faith in him, again, sans that brief moment I guzzled the kool aid after weeks 1 and 2 of this year. But if Cable is up to what I think he is, then I certainly don’t want him to be benched for this. It’s not Russell’s benching I have a problem with. It’s the circumstances surrounding it. It stinks to high hell that Grakdowski was given a complimentary running game today, something Russell was denied most of the season. Russell’s arm or not, there is NO excuse to give one QB a running game and make another one throw the ball.
November 22nd, 2009 at 8:27 pm
jhill
russell probably was wrong to ignore him but can you blame him he shouldn’t be starting the only time he should be on the field is if we are in a spread formation but we wont because we only go i, two tight end, and shotgun
November 22nd, 2009 at 8:31 pm
Grad Stats in college,
2004 70.2% 27TD 8int
2005 62.3% 29td 12int
Russell
2004 50.7 9td 4 int
2005 60.5 15td 9 int
2006 67.8 28td 8int
oh btw, the SEC is the most overrated conf in the country. I’m an Ole Miss fan. Name me a few of the SEC QB’s that have gone on to have success in the nfl in the past 10 yrs. The only time they had to play a tough game is within their conf vs 1 or 2 top teams. When they play outside the conf, they schedule nobody to pad their stats.
JR has never been known as an accurate passer. No one at the scouting combine ever said it and no one at the pro level ever said it.
November 22nd, 2009 at 8:32 pm
Your choosing to read what you want to Lefty. I ALSO posted his complete game stats.
You are the one telling me that Gradkowski played better than Russell the whole game. That he managed the game so much better.
Really? Well that 58 minutes Russell played against KC got bashed by EVERYONE, lol. NO ONE wanted to talk about the last 2 minutes when HE WON that game.
You STILL have people talking about game 1 even though Russell’s last 2 minutes put us AHEAD. Russell didn’t even play today, we won, and you guys are STILL talking more shyt about him than you are good stuff about Gradkowski. Which is undertandable b/c there wasn’t much to talk about, lol!
You guys clearly have a double standard, and it’s all good with me. Just talking here.
I think Gradkowski, Frye, Russell, and everyone else on offense would be better with a different offensive coordinator and play caller.
Props to our defense for fighting it’s arse off. Marshallis earning his $!
November 22nd, 2009 at 8:34 pm
Everything that is happening right now, a 3-7 record and a likely 4-12 season, which completes our 7th straight bad season, is a result of Davis not being serious about building an organization from the front office on down. Cable and all of his drama. Russell is only here because Al forced his hand against Kiffin. Gradkowski is our best QB (and he’s NOT good) because Kiffin was not kept aboard to either bring in a real veteran QB or draft someone in the later rounds, who could grow with his offense. Kiffin wanted C. Johnson or Peterson. Both would be much better than Russell. When you don’t know how to build an NFL team, or how to hire the right people in the front office, or, more likely, refuse to hire the right people in the front office, this is what you get. 6 straight seasons with 11 losses or more, and a 3-7 record to start the 7th.
November 22nd, 2009 at 8:34 pm
JHill,
Bush had only 4 carriers, yet still had enough time to have an awful fumble, that killed a lot of momentum.
If I’ve said it once, I said it million times, we have no RB’s. They all have serious flaws in their games.
November 22nd, 2009 at 8:35 pm
good ST play by myers too with the strip
November 22nd, 2009 at 8:35 pm
The difference is that Grads has been through what Russell is going through. He has been on 3 teams has seen the bottom and fought his way back up. he has worked n his mechanics and studies film very hard and puts the time in to get better. Russell can do the same thing it’s just will he.
Grads is far from some great QB in fact he’s quite average but he understands what it takes to be at his best at this level. He puts the time on mechanics and film work…..period If Russell buckles down and does the same thing he will see similar results. He is by far the more superior talent but talent alone doesn’t get it done. Grads did nothing spectacular out the except when plays were available he made them. Simple, but it gives your players CONFIDENCE that if they run their patterns correctly the ball will get there.
Our WR’s still made the same mistakes they always make but the QB didn’t contribute to the problem. DHB is a sloppy route runner and inconsistent player. But if you can afford to give him enough chances he will make a play. He did, ONE… Cahz Schilens was in and out of this game and for what? He is by far the best thing we have at WR and is going to be an utstanding player. JLH can make plays but we dn’t use him we use DHB and Murphy……go figure this game would’ve been over had we not wasted downs on DHB and Murphy running bad routes.
Same thing in the KC game we play a bad hands WR at the end of a crucial game and he cost us the game. Schilens makes those plays blindfolded. The HC is literally costing us games forcing DHB on the field. With 6:mins in the game we’re throwing deep on 1st down instead of putting the ball on the ground and grinding out a win. If that defense doesn’t shut them down tis game is lost. Cable’s playcalling is freakin’ assinine. Just win the game dude stop trying to do tooo much. Bush easily wins that game if you hand him the ball and play smart offense. He ask the defense to do way too much with his dumbass playcalling.
November 22nd, 2009 at 8:35 pm
I agree with whoever said earlier that this game shows the Raiders might have a better team than most people think. If we didn’t have liability in at QB all season, perhaps we’d be talking about how good a bunch of these other players are. Imagine what Grads can do with more time to get comfortable.
I also agree that playcalling seems very poor. Better use of Bush and McFadden probably settles this game before the last drive.
At least the Raiders have proven they can beat just about anyone on any given Sunday. Just enough to keep fools like me coming back.
November 22nd, 2009 at 8:36 pm
lefty12 Says:
November 22nd, 2009 at 8:26 pm
today we had 2-count them -2 3 and outs.going into this game we had more 3 and outs than any team in the NFL.you can say BG isn’t the solution,but you can’t say JR isn’t one of the major,if not the major, problems.
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Like I said, you read what you want to read. What part of Russell should be THIRD STRING is not saying he’s part of the problem?
November 22nd, 2009 at 8:37 pm
Jhill and 16,
here is one thing you guys miss. The most important stat for the QB positioin is not the numbers but really the stat between the ears of the QB. Leadership is extremely important. JR doesnt have it. Cutler doesnt have it. Jeff George doesnt have it. They all got big arms but they aint got no leadership skills.
Moreover you didnt see balls land at the feet of our RB’s or TE’s today on those dumpoffs.
November 22nd, 2009 at 8:38 pm
And you guys think Gradkowski is going to somehow remedy a completely rotten organization! And don’t give me this nonsense that you never expected him to be “great”, and you just want him to be better than Russell. Since when was that the goal of an NFL team? To be better than the previous qb? Never mind if he loses, just as long as he’s not as bad as the black guy with the beanie? Unbelievable. Again, I blame Al, for allowing this mutiny to grow into what it is. The Raiders are a joke. The Raider Nation is an even more pathetic joke. But celebrate today’s birthday gift.
November 22nd, 2009 at 8:44 pm
# bdapprich Says:
November 22nd, 2009 at 8:11 pm
dont forget bengals have a good defense. they are the number 2 sead in afc going into today. no one has hung a lot of yards on them this year. grad was respectable.
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Actually, the Bengals are below the middle of the league against the pass. They are giving up and average of 231 yards per game passing.
The Bengals are 2nd in the NFL against the RUN only giving up 83 yards per game.
They are also 2nd overall because they are only giving up 16 points per game.
So Gradkowski was below average throwing the ball against the Bengals, but they had 92 yards rushing and scored 20 points.
November 22nd, 2009 at 8:45 pm
jhill,2 three and outs.he did manage the game better.i’m sorry if you refuse to see it-lmao.he didn’t score every time we had the ball,but he didn’t go 3 &out either-lol.you say you also believe Jr should have been benched and then you do nothing but make excuses and support everything he did,while criticizing everything his replacement did-lol.you are the one with a double standard.i said all along Russell should be benched to SEE if he was a problem.today PROVED that he is.if you refuse to acknowledge that there is nothing anyone can say-lol.
November 22nd, 2009 at 8:47 pm
It’s not like it was a bunch of dink and dunks today.
The int was on a deep-drop deep play (shocking it didn’t work right?)
I counted at least 3 deep throws to DHB. One in the end zone, one the PI, one at the end of the game when he stopped running (shaking my head).
There was numerous other down the field throws that were both incomplete, and complete (like the Chaz catch).
November 22nd, 2009 at 9:16 pm
It’s not fair to compare the two qb’s against each other. One is obviously more physically gifted than the other (size, strength, etc.). One makes about 60 million more than the other. JR had his chance but apparently doesn’t put the time in the film, extra work and such (according to his coach and players). Granted he didn’t get the support he needed at times, but he also had other opportunities.
Now Grad being less gifted has to work harder to find a spot due to his less daunting abilities. He did not look bad today. Not great, just not bad. Played with energy, inspired energy.
Bottom line, one wasn’t cutting it, got benched and another got an opportunity.
Can you imagine Cable storming into Als’ office and demanding Al to sit JR? I wonder if Cable pulled the pimp slap on Al.
November 22nd, 2009 at 9:27 pm
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November 22nd, 2009 at 9:54 pm
Gradkowski saves the day. Just Win Baby. Russell would have choked this one away. Those are the facts, not speculation and bizarre, fatalistic, futuristic predictions.
Grads 1-0 (against arguably the best team in the AFC).
What is Russell’s record again MR? Oh, and how does JaDoofus rank amongst his NFL peers this year? Yeah; thought so. Hahahahaha. It sucks to have to constantly argue against actual facts doesn’t it jerk.
November 22nd, 2009 at 10:21 pm
Every short dump-off that went for 4-5 yrds would have been incomplete or 0 yrds , and Cincy didn’t just fumble Meyers made a hell of a play, DHB can’t catch no matter who throws it to him. Not the biggest Cable fan but it if I was gonna get fired it sure ain’t gonna be cause of some 300 lb chowder head. GO RAIDERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
November 23rd, 2009 at 4:11 am
Monday morning oh, what a wonderful feeling to wake up and know Our Raiders are Winners Wooo HOOO!!!Man it feels GOOODD!! Bring it on Dallas!!GO RAIDERS!!
November 23rd, 2009 at 8:09 am
if i was you mr i’ld be happy to finally win a frickin game (against a team with second best record in afc) and put your super bowl aspirations on hold for a while.
November 23rd, 2009 at 8:12 am
i dont know how you can defend a guy with 2 td passes ALL YEAR!! grad matched that in one game. i dont care how much he gets paid, where he came from, how big, how fast, how strong, RUSSELL SUCKS!
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