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Third quarter: Bengals 17, Raiders 10

By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Sunday, November 22nd, 2009 at 3:27 pm in Oakland Raiders.

Scoring

Oak–Sebastian Janikowski 52-yard field goal, 9:59.

Cin–Shayne Graham 25-yard field goal, 3:29

Notes:

– Tyvon Branch, Chris Johnson back-to-back stuffs of Bernard Scott to bring up third-and-11. Carson Palmer hits Laveranues Coles to the 36-yard line _ a 40-yard gain _ to end the quarter. Johnson defending, Coles made nice leaping catch.

– Bruce Gradkowski’s third-and-3 pass batted down by Frostee Rucker at line of scrimmage, Raiders go three-and-out following Bengals field goal.

– Raiders open at 27 after holding Bengals with first and goal inside the 5. Raiders get 17 yards on Bengals pass interference, but Dhani Jones hits Michael Bush, forces fumble, Bengals Robert Geathers returns it to the 13-yard line.

Raiders defense holds again, forcing Graham field goal attempt from 25 yards. He makes it after earlier miss.

– Bernard Scott races 61 yards following Janikowski field goal, Bengals get to 6-yard line with third-and-goal and can’t convert. Tyvon Branch breaks up play on second down, Carson Palmer too high to Andre Caldwell. However, Stanford Routt called for roughing the passer _ helmet to helmet, yet.

Routt makes up for it on third and goal, sacking Palmer for 18-yard loss. Graham misses from 37 yards _ nice defensive stand.

– First drive of half, Raiders drove to the Cincinnati 34, Bush stopped for a yard on third-and-5 (conservative call). Janikowski converts field goal attempt from 52 yards.

A 38-yard drive in 10 plays. Some good downhill running, a 7-yard Gradkowski to Darrius Heyward-Bey pass for a first down. Deep left sideline strike to end zone incomplete to DHB, Leon Hall covering. DHB helps break it up.

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187 Responses to “Third quarter: Bengals 17, Raiders 10”

  1. Terrapin Says:

    Terrapin Says:
    November 22nd, 2009 at 3:28 pm

    The only reason this offense is resembling some sort of functionality is because the damn RBs (Lawton in particular) have decided to hold on to the ball.

    Lawton has been dropping the dump off all damn season! (And Cable continues to run that same damn play to him …queue IDIOT!)

    This game he’s finally catching them …that’s the main difference in this game. More players catching and not dropping.

  2. texguy Says:

    MR – suck it.

  3. Terrapin Says:

    And even with that the QB is 10/20 87yds ….don’t try to sell be a bill of goods.

  4. Terrapin Says:

    Oh and they are running the ball better this game too. Again …QB 10/20 …how’s that much different?

  5. Chaos Says:

    Looks like a high school football game in the stands.

  6. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Funny, Tex Guy. I just said the same to your mother.

  7. Chaos Says:

    Do you guys see how Carson Palmer is handing off the ball? How the hell can you sniff a fake with that?

  8. islandraider Says:

    Mine got stuck too. Off to nfl gamecenter for the rest. Still wondering about the ‘Artemis’ virus.

  9. AbusedByAl Says:

    http://streamingan.net/?ida=716/Watch-La-Liga-Osasuna-vs-Valencia-Live-Streaming-Online-Free-Full-Video-November-22-2009

    :-)

  10. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    That justin tv link is gone. checked all the other links. i’m listening to ksfo, now. Poppa sounds like he’s ready to kill himself.

  11. RaiderTW Says:

    MR – suck it.

    He already has sucked it. The big lemon of life that’s why he’s never satisfied. Now he’s talking up JaMarcus like he’s been behind him all along.lol

  12. AbusedByAl Says:

    watch #9, it’s at least as funny as the raiders game!

  13. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    RaiderTW, just pointing out that Russell was unfairly scapegoated. My opinion is that we don’t have a QB, period. I just use my head. That’s the difference between me and most Raider fans.

  14. raiderlifer24 Says:

    any body got a link to the game mine went down

  15. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    that link that abused by al posts has a link to the raider game but it’s taking forever to load. still hasn’t yet. i think it’s the same dead link as the other ones.

  16. AbusedByAl Says:

    >> i’m listening to ksfo, now.

    Working for me too! Better than nothing.

  17. Tonio Says:

    between it and the stats page on nfl.com… next best ing

  18. Tonio Says:

    4th n 1 we need to go for it

  19. Ghost2Post Says:

    Cable stop running the ball on 3rd down and throw it!

  20. Tonio Says:

    lets go d… time for a turnover leading to points!

  21. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Gradkowsk has made no difference. I don’t see the “inspiration” you boneheads keep talking about, unless the Raiders goal is to lose games by less than 10. That’s nice. Anyhow, nothing has changed. Gradkowski is no better than Russell.

  22. lefty12 Says:

    81/2 minutes left.punting was the proper call.

  23. raiderlifer24 Says:

    http://www.atdhe.net is working

  24. Chaos Says:

    LOL…….Hey broke asses, how about NFL Sunday ticket with Directv??????

  25. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    And when I say boneheads, I mean Tex Guy, Thec, and TrueRaiders, aka the 3 dumbest mother fuggers on the planet. They are pathetic.

  26. PaleRaider Says:

    Ilemi.com is finally working

  27. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    My association doesn’t allow the dish.

    Why won’t the NFL let Cable carry the package?

    B.S

  28. Terrapin Says:

    Gradkowski …now 12/23 ..just sniffing above 50% ..he’s trying …with all dump offs may I add.

  29. JB Says:

    Link works: http://rwbsports.com/ch1.html

  30. Ghost2Post Says:

    where is chad ohno!

  31. Tonio Says:

    new link.. sslow but showing..
    /rwbsports.com/ch1.html

  32. RaiderTW Says:

    adthe is back.

  33. texguy Says:

    Chaos – Can’t help it man. I don’t have a sugar mama like you do. lol

  34. raiderlifer24 Says:

    and thats why you punt lets go

  35. Chaos Says:

    SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
    November 22nd, 2009 at 3:43 pm
    My association doesn’t allow the dish.

    Why won’t the NFL let Cable carry the package?

    B.S

    ————————————————–

    Sounds like you need to find a new home……..

  36. RaiderTW Says:

    Ellis sack!

  37. Terrapin Says:

    Leading Receivers: 1. Zach Miller 2. Luke Lawton 3. Justin Fargas

    …queue dumpoff heaven

    Still 12/23

    How’s this much different? …Where are the WRs?

  38. aig Says:

    Terrapin, you’re missing the point. Grad is managing the game much better than JR had in the last 9 weeks. It’s about moving the chains. AND we have moved the chains today.

  39. Chaos Says:

    texguy Says:
    November 22nd, 2009 at 3:45 pm
    Chaos – Can’t help it man. I don’t have a sugar mama like you do. lol
    ———————————–

    HAHA. I have 3, but they dont pay the bills. The suk the d*ck.

  40. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    those links all died again. The NFL is out in full force to make sure nobody watches the Bengals practice session against the worst team in football.

  41. lefty12 Says:

    once again-Terrapin are you rooting against the Raiders because they benched the 35th rated QB in a 32 team league?are you rooting against the player playing QB for the Raiders because he isn’t the guy you want playing?

  42. Chaos Says:

    SH*T…..We would have had a TD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  43. RaiderNsuede Says:

    WE got the ball back. We got confidence and now we got to execute and get a TD.

  44. JB Says:

    http://rwbsports.com/ch1.html now frozen. We probably crashed the server.

  45. islandraider Says:

    Just when you get excited. SSSSSSSSHHHHHHHHHIIIIIITTTT!

  46. AbusedByAl Says:

    intercepted… :-(

  47. aig Says:

    yup, if they bought 1 more sec for Grad, we would have had it.

  48. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Good job, Gradkowski. conGRADS! Grads and dads…

  49. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    This guy has done NOTHING Russell couldn’t do.

  50. AbusedByAl Says:

    That challenge will not succeed. it was an int.

  51. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Go ahead, guys, blame the o line…THE SAME O LINE THAT RUSSELL WAS FORCED TO PLAY BEHIND. Let us hear it.

  52. Terrapin Says:

    Queue INT …Cincy got 1 outta 3.

    No Lefty ..if they win thats great ..but all you keep saying how awful Russell was without considering just how bad his team was playing around him and just how much his coach calling the plays wasn’t helping the situation.

    Grads coming in will solve nothing …and has not solved ANYTHING! You are looking at the same damn stats …and his is probably worse to be honest b/c Lawton is actually catching the ball today. Never did with Russell.

  53. RaiderNsuede Says:

    aND we throw a pick

  54. RaiderMac Says:

    Cable sure does love to waste timeouts on desperate challenges.

  55. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    3 turnovers, 2 of them GraDUNCEky’s fault. Put Russell back in, NOW!

  56. Terrapin Says:

    Cable is gawd awful …he caused the team to waste a TO in the 1H because he wasn’t paying attention …talking to the refs.

  57. AbusedByAl Says:

    wasted that timeout

  58. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Gradkowsk era, baby! New sheriff in town!

  59. AbusedByAl Says:

    The good news is that Bruce is not worse than jmr.

    The bad news is that Bruce is not better than jmr.

    Maybe next week…

  60. Terrapin Says:

    You guys better be glad Cincy is playing sloppy today turning the ball over and penalties …cause this is not as ‘close’ as you would assume.

    Cincy vs Oak

    First Downs 23 12
    Total Yards 341 193
    Passing Yards 165 104
    Rushing Yards 176 89
    Penalties (Yds) 8(59) 3(13)
    Turnovers 2 3
    Punts (AVG) 3(45) 4(41)
    Time of Pos. 36:37 19:45

  61. Thec07 Says:

    The Real MaddenRaider Says:
    November 22nd, 2009 at 3:42 pm
    And when I say boneheads, I mean Tex Guy, Thec, and TrueRaiders, aka the 3 dumbest mother fuggers on the planet. They are pathetic.

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    ROFLMAO…..

  62. lefty12 Says:

    challenges are almost always called from upstairs,not by the coaches on the field.

  63. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Gradkowski has definitely inspired that defense!

  64. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Thec, did you take a nap? Are you in a better mood?

  65. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Blitzing is all that has saved the defense today. Too bad we won’t do it next week.

  66. SnakeStabler Says:

    Hey a McFadden sighting!

  67. AbusedByAl Says:

    Blitz worked! :-)

  68. SnakeStabler Says:

    Chance for Heyward-Bey to redeem himself

  69. AbusedByAl Says:

    The radio broadcast is really good!

  70. texguy Says:

    MR – D steps it up again. Blame it on Grad if you like, but the D played well today.

  71. aig Says:

    Terrapin,

    i expect Mrs. to be stupid but you sound stupid too. Jeez, we fumbled a snap on their 30. Bush fumbled after a 9 yd gain. Are you even watching the game? I guess not. Had Grad get 1 more sec on that pass to Murphy we would have had a TD. STFU already. Grad is clearly a better game manager than JR today and it only took 1 game. You’re an idiot.

  72. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Watching the Raiders run a two minute drill is like watching those old films in super fast motion. Just hilarious. All that’s missing is the saloon piano.

  73. raidermarty Says:

    Ok I’m back,atdhe is working

  74. RaiderNsuede Says:

    Now this is our last chance.

  75. AbusedByAl Says:

    76 yds in 2 min for 7 points… I wish they can do it, but I think they won’t.

  76. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    TexGuy, the D played well because they blitzed more. Period. Don’t you know anything about football? Or is it just spin, spin, spin to make the Raiders seem better, to you?

  77. Ghost2Post Says:

    I know Zack is happy Grad is in.

  78. Terrapin Says:

    Oh so now its the Olines fault? The same Oline Russell played behind ….o’ yea’ the fan that talks ill of Gradskowski.

  79. raidermarty Says:

    Alright Zach

  80. SnakeStabler Says:

    Ok we need a first down at this point

  81. texguy Says:

    But I thogh Al Davis wouldn’t let Cable blitz anymore after the Philly game.
    That is waht you were spouting a few weeks ago.
    MR = MR Two-face.

  82. Ghost2Post Says:

    denvers coach has turned back into a pumpkin.

  83. SnakeStabler Says:

    This ref is the most incompetant ref in the league from the games i’ve seen this year.

  84. AbusedByAl Says:

    A TD will sent it into OT only…

  85. Tonio Says:

    got the first!

  86. SnakeStabler Says:

    Russell listening to rap music on the sideline.

  87. raidermarty Says:

    Keep the Drive Alive!!!!

  88. SnakeStabler Says:

    Now thats what you call a Hail Mary.

  89. SnakeStabler Says:

    Pass to Murphy

  90. AbusedByAl Says:

    Now even the TV stream is working for me! Nice!!

  91. SnakeStabler Says:

    You know they will be blitzing here

  92. SnakeStabler Says:

    Wow they weren’t and we still completed it

  93. Ghost2Post Says:

    ALRIGHT!!!

  94. SnakeStabler Says:

    Bring on Jano

  95. aig Says:

    fck all you haters

  96. Tonio Says:

    touchdown!

  97. SnakeStabler Says:

    33 seconds left and Carson oh-oh

  98. raidermarty Says:

    C’mon RAIDERS!!!!!!!!!!!!

  99. SnakeStabler Says:

    Goodell wants to take a look at it and take it away.
    Figures

  100. AbusedByAl Says:

    TD!!!

  101. Thec07 Says:

    Murphy bench DHB…….

  102. lefty12 Says:

    amazing what having a competent QB will do for a team!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  103. raidermarty Says:

    YEEAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  104. SnakeStabler Says:

    Murphy already got screwed once this year

  105. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    A hail mary. Russell could have done that, too. Our blitzing and that hail mary is all that has saved us. Russell got gyped!!!

  106. SnakeStabler Says:

    Man he didn’t get in raiders might be better off waste some more time off the clock

  107. aig Says:

    i dont care if we lose this game. we finally look like we belong in the league for once.

  108. Tonio Says:

    Poor Murphy.. .is always getting replayed

  109. AbusedByAl Says:

    review… why?? looked good to me

  110. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Lefty, Russell can’t hurl a hail mary? There was no skill involved with that. Gradkowski just hurled it up there. You guys are the dumbest football fans on the planet, I swear.

  111. Sec 124 Says:

    its now on tv

  112. texguy Says:

    Terrapin look at the stats:

    Russell – 9 starts 2 TD’s
    Grad – 1 start 2 TD’s

    Points is what matters. Russell cannot put the Raiders in position to score points.

  113. PaleRaider Says:

    Well, then why hasn’t he done it? Oh, I forgot, the coaching staff sabotaged him with the playbook, never mind he really never bothered to learn the whole thing.

  114. SnakeStabler Says:

    Told you this ref was dumb.

  115. Terrapin Says:

    Russell made a game winning TD to Murphy vs SD …com’on Lefty …you know better.

  116. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    # aig Says:
    November 22nd, 2009 at 4:09 pm

    i dont care if we lose this game. we finally look like we belong in the league for once.

    ……….

    Thanks to blitzing. We could blitz every week and it would reap dividends. We just don’t, and we won’t after this week. We never blitz two weeks straight.

  117. Canadian Raider Says:

    the real MR we have figured you out your not a Raider fan your just a punk who hasn been laid. Go get a boyfreind and have some fun douchebag

  118. Thec07 Says:

    TD Murphy bench DHB….

  119. texguy Says:

    MR – It was the 10 plays before the TD that Russell would have been 3 and out.

  120. raidermarty Says:

    Game’s on TV now awesome!!!!

  121. SnakeStabler Says:

    good point why they let murphy get one on one so close to the goal line

  122. RaiderNsuede Says:

    Uh Oh.

  123. RaiderMac Says:

    Why is Cable playing for overtime?? Should have gone for 2. What do we have to lose

  124. aig Says:

    see mrs….

    what you dont understand is that Grad put the ball where it gives the wR a chance to play the ball…Russell did that last year at the end but he sucked at it this year….now go buy a grad jersey mrs.

  125. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    the radio is like one full minute behind the cbs feed. I’m shutting popa off.

  126. Chaos Says:

    FUMBLE!!!!!!!!

  127. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    wow.

  128. raidermarty Says:

    FUMBLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  129. lefty12 Says:

    Gradkowski-1 game=2TDs;Russell-9 games=2TDs.nuf said.

  130. Ghost2Post Says:

    WE WIN WE WIN WE WIN!

  131. Chaos Says:

    HOLY SH*T!!!!!!!!!

  132. AbusedByAl Says:

    bloody stream broke down on me again… :-(

  133. Terrapin Says:

    holy sht. ..you talk about a break

  134. Tonio Says:

    AWESOME!!!!!

  135. Ghost2Post Says:

    BRING ON THE COWGIRLS

  136. Thec07 Says:

    WOW….

  137. SnakeStabler Says:

    Not yet Ghost2Post

  138. Tonio Says:

    OMG… kick it rightnow

  139. AbusedByAl Says:

    the radio is lacking behind…

  140. 4evaRaider Says:

    WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
    HOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

  141. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    blitzing and luck got the Raiders this one. We won’t blitz next week, and we likely won’t be lucky next week, either. at some point al davis has to build a football team. you can’t bank on wins like this.

  142. SnakeStabler Says:

    Can’t believe bengals will get ball back again

  143. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    lefty12 Says:
    November 22nd, 2009 at 4:12 pm
    Gradkowski-1 game=2TDs;Russell-9 games=2TDs.nuf said.
    =====================================================
    Why didn’t the Raiders make the move earlier?

    Who drafted Russell?

    Why was he starting if he was not even coming prepared to practice?

  144. SnakeStabler Says:

    Janos had too long to think about this

  145. 4evaRaider Says:

    Polish Power!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  146. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    Did Al DAvis sabotage yet another season?

    Was Lane Kiffin right?

  147. texguy Says:

    MR – cry me a river!!!!

  148. Ghost2Post Says:

    I’m putting it in the refrig.
    the eggs are cooling and the butter is getting hard.

  149. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    TexGuy, you were ready to shoot yourself 5 minutes ago. Listen to you know. Confident all along, ey? We blitzed, period. We put pressure on the qb we play better. The fumble was luck. Tell me that fumble wasn’t luck. Tell me there was some kind of Raider skill that got that fumble return.

  150. Tonio Says:

    eyeah baby !!!!!!!!!!

  151. 4evaRaider Says:

    Just a little thing as moving the chains openz everything

    we got horses

  152. Thec07 Says:

    YESSS>>>>

  153. Canadian Raider Says:

    THE REAL MR GO PUMP YOUR MOMMY

  154. SnakeStabler Says:

    Remember the Bengals have never won in Oakland.

  155. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    HA. THE CBS FEED JUST CUT OUT, LIKE THE F’N HEIDI GAME!

  156. Tonio Says:

    LET’S GO DEFENSE

  157. SnakeStabler Says:

    No Pass Interference!!!!!

  158. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    ROUND TABLE COMMERCIAL! THE ROUND TABLE GAME!

  159. lefty12 Says:

    S&B-143-i have no idea;i agree.

  160. Ghost2Post Says:

    Where is chad OHNO?

  161. DT42 Says:

    Impressive! Great job team. Wish we had a full week to enjoy it but bring on the ‘Boys!! I watched them today and they looked terrible!!!!

  162. Tonio Says:

    Dthe odd thing… and blitz

  163. Terrapin Says:

    WOW! Unbelievable …maybe the Raiders luck is changing …Cincy just gave the game away.

    On the Grads issue …dude is no better than Russell. The only reason, again the only reason the team looked better is because the RB weren’t dropping the dump offs – the easy stuff.

    They were dropping those same passes all damn season and you guys blame the QB for it. Those little passes matter a lot. Today they were making them.

  164. Tonio Says:

    INTERCEPTIONS!!!!!!!!!!!!

  165. SnakeStabler Says:

    Who caught that

  166. mikeyd1963 Says:

    YYYYYEEEEEEEESSSSSS!!!!!!

  167. Tonio Says:

    #21 YEAH baby… Just Win

  168. raidermarty Says:

    The Gradkowski era has begun!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  169. mikeyd1963 Says:

    namdi picked it off

  170. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    blitzing and a fumble return. Gradkowski’s td pass was soft coverage. It’s not like he threaded a needle. We’re not going to blitz next week and you can’t count on fumbles to win games. Pure luck. Enjoy it, kool aid drinkers. Smart fans know this doesn’t mean jack. This was not a solid victory.

  171. 4evaRaider Says:

    yeah mannnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn!!!

  172. aig Says:

    WE WON. YEEEEEEEEEEEEAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH.

  173. raidermarty Says:

    YEAAAHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  174. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    lefty12 Says:
    November 22nd, 2009 at 4:19 pm
    S&B-143-i have no idea;i agree.
    ======================================================
    I was a Russell guy until it was confirmed he wasn’t preparing and doing the basics.

    I am happy the Raiders got a win today against a good team.

    I am not happy that someone decided to waste the season on a guy that wasn’t even preparded

  175. SnakeStabler Says:

    At least it will be happy plane ride to dallas

  176. lefty12 Says:

    Terrapin-ever heard the phrase ‘the QB throws a catchable ball’?i’m not saying its true,but that may be the reason.

  177. Terrapin Says:

    # raidermarty Says:
    November 22nd, 2009 at 4:20 pm

    The Gradkowski era has begun!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    # raidermarty Says:
    November 22nd, 2009 at 4:20 pm

    The Gradkowski era has begun!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    ***************************

    Dude ..don’t make me cry in sorrow. This guy has been a failure everywhere he’s gone. Tampa, Browns and where ever else.

  178. Coach_034 Says:

    Bring on Thanksgiving – YEAHHHHHH!!!

  179. BDAtlanta Says:

    Look at the penalty ratio.

    Raiders are working to get back where we belong.

    whooooahhhhhh

  180. Canadian Raider Says:

    Grads 2 td passes today, more mobile than JR more accurate knows playbook better, shows up early at practice.

    JR 2 TD passes last 9 games, slowest qb in the leauge, no accuracy, out of shape doesnt show up to meetings on time.

    With all this the idiot The Real MR thinks JR is better, raider fans today you have finally learned a lesson dont even respond to that idiots posts hes a punk and thats all I will continue bashing him for everyone

  181. DT42 Says:

    Great job Grad!! I think the bigger issue is the message the was delivered to the team. If you are holding us back then you sit until you get your mind right. If JRuss doesn’t get it now then don’t let the door hit your a$$ on the way out. If he does and attaches himself to Grad and Fry’s hip this short week then the franchise and his career gets better.

    We have a chance to go two in the row. The ‘Boys were a joke today.

  182. islandraider Says:

    Grad may not be better than jr (to some, not to others), but the team sure played up a level.

  183. JT Says:

    Hey SnB offense defense specialteams:

    I guess you are now a Gradkowski fan now right

  184. BDAtlanta Says:

    Terrapin,

    Other QB’s who’ve been considered failures who became Raiders:

    Jim Plunkett
    Rich Gannon

  185. JT Says:

    Id di not have TV feed to what game, but I now what Gradkowski can do… and I told some of you about him when the QB change was made…

    That is, instill hope on a defense and everybody plays better when a guy like Gradkowski plays like he is having fun… pumping his fist, moving around…

    Rusell always a stiffo.

  186. islandraider Says:

    Grad wanted the ball today.

  187. RaiderTW Says:

    So where is MR now?

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