Cable thought about going for two
By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Monday, November 23rd, 2009 at 5:50 pm in Oakland Raiders.
More news, notes and quotes (at a better rate of connection speed) Monday and the weekly press conference with coach Tom Cable:
– Cable had two strategic decisions which worked in his favor during the 20-17 win over the Bengals.
First, facing a fourth-and-1 trailing 17-10 at the Oakland 47, Cable was booed for sending in Shane Lechler to punt. The Raiders had failed on a third-and-1 and nearly eight minutes remained in the game.
Lechler punted the Bengals back to the 10-yard line and the Raiders forced a three-and-out.
Oakland got a 12-yard punt return by Johnnie Lee Higgins _ good by the Raiders’ 2009 standards _ only to have Bruce Gradkowski’s deep pass to Louis Murphy intercepted by Johnathan Joseph when the quarterback was hit while throwing. Both Cable and Gradkowski contend a touchdown was there for the taking with better protection.
Later, when the Raiders tied the score when Gradkowski and Murphy ultimately hooked up, Cable’s decision was whether to go for two or send out Sebastian Janikowski to convert the extra point and put the game into overtime.
“We talked about it. My thought was we had battled to get there,” Cable said. “Let’s get to overtime and win it there. If we can get one more drive, I felt like we were getting into a rhythm offensively. I thought we’d be fine, but I did think about.”
Bottom line is he made the right call both times because the scoreboard says so. Strategically, it seems sound from here to put Lechler on the field to pin the Bengals back in their own territory on the first decision, and to trust the way the team had been playing defensively with regard to the second decision.
– Gradkowski had passes batted down at the line of scrimmage by Donata Peko and Frostee Rucker, and his relative lack of height (he’s 6.5 inches shorter than Russell) means he’ll have to look for windows at times instead of throwing over the top.
“I think moving in the pocket can help create lanes for himself,” Cable said. “As offensive linemen, you have to be aware of those things and his physical stature. We have a thing about jumpers and being more aware of it than the week before. Before it was kind of easy because JaMarcus was so much taller than everybody else over the top.”
– Defensive end Jay Richardson got his most extensive playing time because of the injury to defensive end Richard Seymour and responded with his best game with six tackles and a tackle for loss.
“I thought it was a real lift for our team,” Cable said. “Jay has not played a lot because of who he’s playing behind and he was needed yesterday. He stepped up and made some plays.”
Said Richardson: “You want to make sure you step up and do your job. Don’t worry about the added pressure, just do what you do best because we all have different styles up front.”
– The Raiders brought more blitz pressure than at any time since the win over Philadelphia, and Richardson was glad to see it.
“It helps you out because the offensive line has got some other things they’ve got to account for and in doing that they might lose track in what we’re doing up front,” Richardson said. “Blitzing forces them to have to think more, make some checks, and usually they’re going to have a bust.”
Not that he was all that thrilled with having to listen to Branch and Stanford Routt crow about their pass rushing skills.
“I’d rather us get the sacks up front, the defensive linemen,” Richardson said. “I’m always happy for the guys, but you’ve got to hear about it when they get a sack.”
– You don’t see a lot of instances when players get both the strip and the fumble recovery on the same play, but the Raiders had it happen twice with rookies against the Bengals. The last one, by Myers, was set up the winning points. Myers said the game was televised at his home in Iowa so friends and family got to see it, and he’s been fielding texts and phone calls ever since.
“It just happens so fast,” Myers said. “I was on the backside and I saw (Caldwell) cutting back, and I was just trying to make a play and luckily fell into it.”
Myers said it was the first strip and recovery of his career, including college, where he played special teams, and high school, where he played defense.
On the first series of the fourth quarter, with the Bengals up 17-10 and poised to go up by two touchdowns, defensive tackle Desmond Bryant stripped fullback Jeremi Johnson and recovered the fumble at the 14-yard line.
“It just worked out that way,” Bryant said. “I reached out to tackle him, I didn’t know if I was going to get him or not, but the ball came out, it was laying on the ground, I was looking at it and I thought to myself, `I ought to grab that.’ So I picked it up. It was pretty awesome to have that much of an impact.”
– It’s only one win, but to Murphy, beating the Bengals has created a Tsunami effect.
“I hope we can just keep riding this tidal wave,” Murphy said.
– Cable’s biggest concern are the big plays which the Raiders surrendered _ a 61-yard run by Bernard Scott, a galling 23-yard screen pass on third-and-22 to Scott, a 30-yard pass to Chad Ochocinco, a 15-yard reverse to Caldwell and a 40-yard pass play to Laveranues Coles.
“The big play is really an Achilles’ heel for us right now, something that has to be addressed,” Cable said. “Big plays are caused by a breakdown, a lapse by an individual, a missed tackle, getting out of the gap, blowing a coverage, something like that.
“When you take the big plays out of it, we’ve improved dramatically defensively. But it’s also cost us. We have to really put attention to that.”
– Cable wasn’t about to get into assessing Gradkowski as a potential longterm NFL starter along the lines of other off-the-beaten-path quarterbacks such as Kurt Warner, Jake Delhomme and Jeff Garcia.
“I think Bruce did a good job yesterday, and we need him to do a good job again this week,” Cable said. “This will all sort itself out. To make statements like that right now would be ludicrous. Right now, as I said when I made the change, he is our best chance to succeed, so we’re going to keep riding it, keep pushing it, try to get better as a team. How it all turns out, time will tell.”
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November 23rd, 2009 at 5:54 pm
Good thing Cable didn’t trust his instincts and did the right thing.
The guy is crazy!!! Go for two in a home game, almost unheard of.
November 23rd, 2009 at 5:54 pm
Thats what he gets for thinking.
Keep doing what your told Tom!
November 23rd, 2009 at 5:54 pm
2 dirty minds stink alike eh Vegas
November 23rd, 2009 at 5:58 pm
ive been thinking about the seymour situation and even if we dont resign him it still seems like he was worth the first round pick because of everything him and ellis have taught the young dlinemen so if he leaves the younger guys are ready to step up because jay rich and shaunessy have been balling when they get in not to mention dez at the dt spot
November 23rd, 2009 at 6:05 pm
16 with all due respect #4 is the most ridiculous thing I’ve ever read and thats saying alot in here!
If they dont extend Seymour that is the biggest blunder I’ve ever seen. You dont rent out players for 1 year for the cost of a #1 draft pick.
November 23rd, 2009 at 6:09 pm
The way all of our young later-round draftees (and even undrafted with Bryant) guys are playing, and handling the media and being positive hard-workers, I’m thinking we should go the way with Seymour and just trade all of our first-round picks for proven veterans.
Hell, we are just going to draft colossal failures in the first round anyways, maybe we can do it again this year.
I like Bryant alot though. Harvard kid.
November 23rd, 2009 at 6:13 pm
The great thing about Murphy is his will to win, you can tell he truly loves football. Scored the tying TD yesterday, and no outward celebration, he was just releaved his team was no longer losing and wanted to celebrate with his teammates.
Remember JLH’s dumb azz, doing back-flips and crap. Now look at him.
November 23rd, 2009 at 6:14 pm
JLH = Philip Buchanon
November 23rd, 2009 at 6:14 pm
im not saying we shouldnt extend seymour but it wont be the end of the world if we dont because the younger players can step up and take his spot but if we dont get a long term contract with him we should franchise him for one year and after that we’ll have shaunessy ellis jay rich and scott too
November 23rd, 2009 at 6:14 pm
I still have not heard a satisfactory answer to how a team’s 1st pick overall who shows up TO CAMP unable to read a defense, slothful, lazy, skips meetings, can’t digest the playbook and is allowed to start coming out said camp. Allowed to start the 1st 8 games.
Its all good that Gradkowski is starting…problem is…all these wins are no better than exhibition.
The Owner and Coach threw away the season….and for what? I don’t care where a player is drafted…there are certain things you don’t do.
We need a new Owner
November 23rd, 2009 at 6:15 pm
someone remind jamarcus to hold off on pounding the dinner table until after the game on thursday. we’d hate for him to over exert himself by yawning or trying to stay awake on the sidelines and end up getting sick for everyone to see.
November 23rd, 2009 at 6:16 pm
I would go ahead and cut Russell right now to send a message to the rest the other lazy players that some things just won’t be accepted.
Cut him tonight!
I can’t believe that kid would be so arrogant and lazy as to skip meetings. So incompetent that he doesn’t even understand the basics of the offense after a full offseason.
I hate that the Raiders have never only had 3 yrs of decent to good QB play in the last 25 years.
November 23rd, 2009 at 6:17 pm
SnB,
We still have a chance to win more games than we did last year. That was the goal going into the year. No sane person was talking playoffs, unless it was the chance to go 8-8 and win the division maybe.
A win on Turkey day, and we will win at least 6 games this year, if not 7.
November 23rd, 2009 at 6:19 pm
Player performance
http://www.raidernationstation.com/exclusives
November 23rd, 2009 at 6:20 pm
Just keep JR away from the turducken,
that would not be pretty..
November 23rd, 2009 at 6:20 pm
It would be a utter disaster to lose a #1 pick for a 1 year rental. It would be a BIG deal. I understand you’ve probably only been watching Football 3 or 4 years but c’mon.
Did priest plant that loony krap in your head? Did he try and touch you in inappropiate places? Priests do that type of thing..
November 23rd, 2009 at 6:21 pm
BTW, it took Rob Ryan 10 games to be a dead man walking in Cleveland.
Watch the replays of the Browns game at the end.
EXTREME PREVENT.
November 23rd, 2009 at 6:23 pm
SnB,
I myself have told you at least a half dozen times. Maybe you have rocks in your ears?
32 mil signing bonus and what 12 mil a year or there abouts. Its called money….dinero…..moolah…cheese!
Its nothing new in pro sports. The all mighty dollar is the reason, keep beating your head against the wall on something so elementary.
November 23rd, 2009 at 6:24 pm
Rob and Rex should get a couple of mini- bikes and they could be the two guys ont he back of the Guiness Book of World records…Freakin SLOBS!
November 23rd, 2009 at 6:25 pm
vegas raider Says:
November 23rd, 2009 at 6:17 pm
SnB,
We still have a chance to win more games than we did last year. That was the goal going into the year. No sane person was talking playoffs, unless it was the chance to go 8-8 and win the division maybe.
A win on Turkey day, and we will win at least 6 games this year, if not 7.
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I didn’t think we’d go to the playoffs either.
My point is that at what point does Al Davis start running this team like a real team.
No more season killing decisions. This year its the Russell debacle….last year it was the Kiffin drama….year before that was the whole last second hire of a head coach….
For once, I want a full seasom without this B.S.
The first meeting the kid skipped should have been the last as the declared starter.
Murphy saying he didn’t know the building was open on Tuesday.
That stuff p&sses me off because it means the team isn’t even bothering to prepare for the season.
Then they sell us on a late season glimpse….and the bitter cycle starts anew.
November 23rd, 2009 at 6:25 pm
The 30 million dollar cheerleader.
But hey at least he was waving his towel right!!!
I also noticed him making sure his beanie was on correctly (slighly tighted like he’s out there flossing).
The dude is lame.
November 23rd, 2009 at 6:27 pm
“Also getting game balls were quarterback Bruce Gradkowski, tight end Zach Miller, tight end Brandon Myers and place kicker Sebastian Janikokowski
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Thought the only game ball was going to Marquis’s family?
November 23rd, 2009 at 6:28 pm
SnB,
I hear you man, makes you take a deep breath and sigh when you know realize this year will be another mired with a bunch of bizarre happenings.
I’m fully invested in Bruce. He may be the next Billy Joe Hobert, but he’s our best bet and I’m going all in. QB play is so vital right now in the NFL, at least he is a hard-worker and a gamer.
Beats the alternative.
November 23rd, 2009 at 6:29 pm
Russell’s this teams QB.
Don’t forget that. Soon as he’s able to manage games like Grad or any other journeyman NFL mid range, he will.
November 23rd, 2009 at 6:30 pm
Mistabrown Says:
November 23rd, 2009 at 6:23 pm
SnB,
I myself have told you at least a half dozen times. Maybe you have rocks in your ears?
32 mil signing bonus and what 12 mil a year or there abouts. Its called money….dinero…..moolah…cheese!
Its nothing new in pro sports. The all mighty dollar is the reason, keep beating your head against the wall on something so elementary.
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Its called bullsh&t…
What Russell did was insubordination. Missing practices, skipping meetings AND showing up overweight. What the hell kind of contract did they write up. I would have certain performance or behavior clauses or something….
Anyway, if Russell played poorly but was doing all the right things…I would simply look at the benching etc…as a step to give him a chance to watch.
But this kid acted so unprofessionlly that I am personally offended.
The kid should be cut with immediate effect
November 23rd, 2009 at 6:30 pm
Nnamdi they use more than 1 ball in a game. What would you like them to do with the extras ?
November 23rd, 2009 at 6:30 pm
vegas raider Says:
November 23rd, 2009 at 6:28 pm
SnB,
I hear you man, makes you take a deep breath and sigh when you know realize this year will be another mired with a bunch of bizarre happenings.
I’m fully invested in Bruce. He may be the next Billy Joe Hobert, but he’s our best bet and I’m going all in. QB play is so vital right now in the NFL, at least he is a hard-worker and a gamer.
Beats the alternative.
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Funny! He’s the next “Hobert” the guy kicked for never looking at his play book.
November 23rd, 2009 at 6:31 pm
Mistabrown Says:
November 23rd, 2009 at 6:30 pm
Nnamdi they use more than 1 ball in a game. What would you like them to do with the extras ?
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Well…
November 23rd, 2009 at 6:31 pm
LMAO
Yeah right!
# Nnamdi21 Says:
November 23rd, 2009 at 6:29 pm
Russell’s this teams QB.
Don’t forget that. Soon as he’s able to manage games like Grad or any other journeyman NFL mid range, he will.
November 23rd, 2009 at 6:32 pm
And soon Barback will be able to lead a Country.
roflmao
# Nnamdi21 Says:
November 23rd, 2009 at 6:29 pm
Russell’s this teams QB.
Don’t forget that. Soon as he’s able to manage games like Grad or any other journeyman NFL mid range, he will.
November 23rd, 2009 at 6:35 pm
Nnamdi21 Says:
November 23rd, 2009 at 6:29 pm
Russell’s this teams QB.
Don’t forget that. Soon as he’s able to manage games like Grad or any other journeyman NFL mid range, he will.
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I dont’ think he deserves the opportunity. In a day and age where other QBs are busting their azz…Russell couldn’t be bothered to show up to meetings.
The criticism I hear on radio, from Cable, ESPN etc….is he just doesn’t have a handle on the bare basics of the position. That’s unacceptable. Especially with a full offseason and a coaching focus on the basics.
I really believe he should be cut.
November 23rd, 2009 at 6:36 pm
mistabrown what would we do with that 1st rd pick draft another db wr or rb with sub 4.4 speed it cant be that much of a waste because most likely that pick would be a waste of cap space and a roster spot
November 23rd, 2009 at 6:36 pm
I still believe JR can be a good NFL QB, but He needs to grow up.
November 23rd, 2009 at 6:37 pm
I wouldn’t be surprised if Russell never see’s the field again.
November 23rd, 2009 at 6:39 pm
Rich guys don’t grow up because they don’t have to. They have to want to.
When has Jamarcus acted like he wanted to? Has he even talked to the media since he got benched?
November 23rd, 2009 at 6:39 pm
see mistabrown you dont think russell will ever be successful so what would you rather have another russell for 4 or 5 years or seymour for 1
November 23rd, 2009 at 6:39 pm
The Seymour pick was necessary going into the season given the deplorable play of the D-Line at stopping the run.
The 1st round pick likely would be wasted as 16 said.
Davis’ track record at the top of the draft would most likely never equal what Seymour will give us this year.
At least Seymour was able to impart some knowledge and serve as an example.
They can always franchise..especially with the added money that will be freed up with Kelly/Warren
November 23rd, 2009 at 6:41 pm
see mistabrown you dont think russell will ever be successful so what would you rather have another russell for 4 or 5 years or seymour for 1 year to help out our younger players develop quicker
November 23rd, 2009 at 6:41 pm
We need to Fire Cable, WRs Coach, RBs Coach, and LBs coach!
November 23rd, 2009 at 6:43 pm
Vegas,
What about running his own camp and paying for it, but the only starting WR the showed up was Murphy!
November 23rd, 2009 at 6:45 pm
Why wasn’t DHB Benched?
November 23rd, 2009 at 6:45 pm
16 can you give me a example where a NFL football team traded a #1 pick for a 1 year rental? This is so dumb I’m asking you to stop asking me.
November 23rd, 2009 at 6:46 pm
Raider O Says:
November 23rd, 2009 at 6:43 pm
Vegas,
What about running his own camp and paying for it, but the only starting WR the showed up was Murphy!
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Exactly, only Murphy. It was a good sign, but he never followed up on it. He than went to camp and blew off the last day of OTA’s.
I hope I’m wrong, but 504 was the first to respond yesterday and I’m going to mail him my Jamarcus jersey. I can’t stand him, and refuse to wear it.
November 23rd, 2009 at 6:46 pm
SnB,
it comes with the territory of being a Raider fan bro. I wished that Chubalot would put in the preparation to realize his potential. hopefully he pulls a Vince Young and do the right thing. Peter King reported that V Young was being mentored by Koby Bryant last year and it calmed him down a lot.
November 23rd, 2009 at 6:48 pm
Raider O,
Asking King Davis to bench both JR and DHB is a tall order for Cable. I think Cable bargained for a JR benching and promised to throw the ball more to DHB. If I have to pick the two, I will bench JR. We did win with James Jett on scholarship so having a liability at WR is not as bad as QB.
November 23rd, 2009 at 6:49 pm
SnB, that is the single dumbest comment you’ve made. Cut Russell are you crazy? at 23-4 years old? that’s why they call us fans(fanatics) we say and do some very stupid things. You’d still have to pay him the rest of 30 mill for nthing and he is still very young at the toughest psition to play in sports. This kid could turn out ot be a star in this league wether naysayers believe it or not. There isn’t anyone in here capable of assesing that situation with any degree of professionalism. I would’vesaid the same thing about Huff until this year. And a lot of people did say it.
You guy’s have a lot to learn about young developing players most QB’s don’t get it until their 4-5 year starting. Look at Vince Young tonight he looks like a completely different player because he was allowed to sit and watch. Russell can be viewed in the same fashion. What if Tenn. had given up n VY they would look like complete idiots and deservedly so.
Russell’s entire career is ahead of him wether some of you braindead fans understand that or not I gaurantee this coaching staff understands it. You never throw away great young talent until you exhaust all avenues as the 49ers are doing.
While it’s obvious that Russell needed to sit to say something that freakin dumb is just beyond me. And I think you know better.
Should the Bears dump Cutler?
How ’bout Panthers dumping Delhomme, why not just cut him?
Young players develope individually differently you don’t pay that kind of money and willy nilly flush it down the toilet. Russell has tremendous talent give him a chance to realize it. Same with DHB and DMC. Two years from now you’ll be signing their praise’s.
Ypou people are freakin’ crazy. Don’t you know the coaches watch that film yesterday and they see that Grads made mistakes but they wont say it. You’ll see Russell again befre the season is over. Read Cable’s above comments.
The looney bin is alive and well.
November 23rd, 2009 at 6:51 pm
Raiders on Turkey day!!!
I’m stoked. Got some green, a little captain and egg nog, the wife cooking up a ton, my cousin coming into town and coming off a victory.
I’m grinning ear to ear fella’s. I fell like impregnating the wife and naming the kid Bruce. I almost talked her into Baron a few years ago.
Raiders!!!!!!
November 23rd, 2009 at 6:52 pm
Vegas,
If something happens with 504, then I would like to have it please!
What size is it?
November 23rd, 2009 at 6:53 pm
16, is young and learning, I expect a lot more from SnB who said something much worse.
They have to sign Seymour to a longterm contract t warrant that 1st. Sign him to a long contract and that is a steal. Lose him and we got burned………period
November 23rd, 2009 at 6:54 pm
lmao at Vegas. good post bro on the wify thing.
November 23rd, 2009 at 6:54 pm
Priesttj,
I am a team first guy. I could care less about draft status. The kid missed meetings, showed up overweight, didn’t learn the playbook enough and has demonstrated laziness.
I find all those traits to be deplorable.
Cable no longer believes in this kid either…Nor is he suited for the WCO.
As for his contract. That’s a sunk cost. You pay him whether he plays or not. No point in paying him to lose.
I am fully aware of what it takes to develop a qB. All those other names you mentioned were not accused of skipping meetings, showing up late and overweight. That’s unacceptable in Pop Warner and it sure as HELL is unacceptable in the NFL.
The Raiders and their fans don’t deserve to put up with this shhhhhhhhh
November 23rd, 2009 at 6:57 pm
SnB,
Draft status and money are a part of the game if you dont understand that go watch womens tennis. You are making an a$$ out yourself.
Go email the commish you freak!
November 23rd, 2009 at 7:02 pm
How can you use the words “tremendous talent”, when the guy has shown No Work ethic, leadership, or the ability to learn quickly… i guess you are only talking about is Physical talent, because his head sure isn’t into this game, or else he would not have to be prodded by his coach to “do the extra work” almost 3 full years into his career. It’s called Spoiled, Rich and Lazy, and it is the Nemesis to all tremendous talent in every field…
November 23rd, 2009 at 7:03 pm
Besides the fact that his last to arrive, first to leave had to GRIND on every guy on the team who doesn’t have a guaranteed 30+ Million dollar contract…
November 23rd, 2009 at 7:04 pm
Mistabrown Says:
November 23rd, 2009 at 6:57 pm
SnB,
Draft status and money are a part of the game if you dont understand that go watch womens tennis. You are making an a$$ out yourself.
Go email the commish you freak!
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LOL
Whisenhunt didn’t put up with the Hollywood antics of Leinart. Gholston doesn’t waste anyones snaps on defense for the Jets…
I doubt the elite coaches in this league would put up with anyone sabotaging their team by skipping mandatory meetings and showing up overweight.
Parcells or Tomlin…yeah sure..go ahead JaMarcus…just keep trying your best.
As for the Commissioner…perhaps he should talk to Russell
November 23rd, 2009 at 7:05 pm
Snb, you don’t knw what the hell you’re talking about, Cable doesn’t believe in Russell. He has NEVER ever said he had given up on him. You can listen to ESPN all yu want but you’re sucker to do so.
Russell is doing just fine but we needed to win now. Cable did what he had to do under the pressure. You guy’s are stupid enough to think Grads is better than Russellshws how freakin’ ifnorant you are. Has nothing to do with money. Russell is hands down a better player just needs to grow up.
He’s 23 years and very immature but you exagerate his shortcomings. You watch this kid game in and game out and you too freakin’ stupid to see that he does all Grads does and more. Grads shws more leadership and confidence and that is it.
Anyone that thinks this guy is the answer is a freakin fool…………period
November 23rd, 2009 at 7:08 pm
Yo Priest…” Russell is doing Just fine…”
C’mon man! what games have you been watching, and this ISN”T all about Sunday, it’s about Monday thru Saturday and only coming in on 1 of your 3 days off during the bye week. I figured you’d get that, with your inside knowledge…
November 23rd, 2009 at 7:09 pm
Like someone said the looney bin is alive & well.
Oh wait it was you that said that?
# priesttj Says:
November 23rd, 2009 at 7:05 pm
Russell is doing just fine but we needed to win now.
November 23rd, 2009 at 7:10 pm
SnB, how in hell do you know what those others QB’s did. They could’ve mnissed more meetings and comitted more agregious shortcomings than Russell you would never know.
That’s the problem with half you guy’s in here you run your mouths like you know but you don’t know. Leinert flat out stupid and Vince Young QUIT on his own team.
Cutler QUIT on his own team. But none of them did what Russell did…………YEAH RIGHT!!
bunch of suckers!!!
November 23rd, 2009 at 7:10 pm
“he’s 6.5 inches shorter than Russell”
I don’t see a problem there. Drew Brees is an inch shorter than Gradkowski. Keep Bruce in the game!
November 23rd, 2009 at 7:11 pm
WHATS UP WITH SEYMOUR JERRY ?????????
WTF NOT ONE MENTION IN THE BLOG
November 23rd, 2009 at 7:12 pm
This fix is going to involve a lot more than a few extra hours a week, this is a FULL Commitment, that he has to be willing to make. We can’t force him to be an overachiever, it doesn’t work like that,you know.
Gannon put in more work in 2 months than JR has all year…I truly hope he gets it, I want him to succeed, but the ‘kid Gloves’ have got to come off.
November 23rd, 2009 at 7:13 pm
Vegas,
check your e-mail.
November 23rd, 2009 at 7:14 pm
Preist
Sign me up for the loony bend. JR should probably be cut in April. When do you call a bust a bust. How long did it take to call Akili Smith a bust or David Carr or Ryan Leaf. This was plain and simple a bad draft pick. Please note that BSPN at draft time said we really should go this way with JR. Now they are saying we were stupid to draft him or Oakland’s environment ruined him.
He is absolutely horrible. He is throwing behind recievers and missing wide open RBs. AD no longer can judge talent. He needs to get good people and delegate. He thinks he can still compete at the same level with guys watching tape 5-10-15 hours a day and really breaking things down. Bottom line is he can’t. Kiffin apparently did not like the pick and neighter did Tim Brown. In retrospect they were right. Bottom line Oakland should do a Minnesota and just skip picks until they get till around number 20. They have a terrible record when they pick in the upper first round.
November 23rd, 2009 at 7:15 pm
priesttj….thank you so much for the tickets and F lot passes that was awesome my son and I got so many autographs we had a blast i can’t say thank you enough.My
son said thank you as well
November 23rd, 2009 at 7:16 pm
wut is good nation!!!
ahh long time no talk havent been on the blog in a long time!!! feel good about the victory against the bengals havent felt this good in a month. its going to be great arguing with richochet but it sucks reading posts ny sadistic posts by the idiotic rmr who cant accept a hard fought raider victory.
November 23rd, 2009 at 7:17 pm
Grads is nothing more than a journeyman QB, and it’;l shw itself soon enough and the coaches know it. He really struggled early in that game, his best plays were the last drive……….period.
Grads works is butt and I commend him for it. But he threw some scary passes and is still young and learning. He has a long way to go.
All Russell has to do is apply himself and he’ll take the job back in his sleep. Grads is average at best…………period
November 23rd, 2009 at 7:18 pm
Priesttj,
I think it was a neat thing to get that kid some tickets to the game.
I’ll forgive your “looney-bin” comment….LOL
BTW, looney is a QB coming to camp overweight and skipping meetings….that’s looney.
If the Raiders had discipline…perhaps a slap on the wrist or even a demotion in camp could have straightened things out. But no, we enable this poor behavior.
Like JHill says…how in the world can Louis Murphy not know the building was open on Tuesdays>
November 23rd, 2009 at 7:20 pm
“This fix is going to involve a lot more than a few extra hours a week”
You can’t fix stupid, man. Work ethic? Maybe. But not stupid.
November 23rd, 2009 at 7:20 pm
You’re more than welcome mom.
Autumnwind, shut the hell up and get a freakin’ clue.
November 23rd, 2009 at 7:21 pm
Priest,
First, I do want JR to succeed because I dont want to see we wasted a pick on him.
Here’s an observation for you. Other than the fact that he can throw a mile with his arm, he is NOT ACCURATE. Usually the big arm guys lack the intelligence to be a complete package. I have yet to see Russell be known or shown me that he is accurate on a consistent basis. Jeff George was a head case but he got a big arm and was accurate. other than throwing the ball for 75 yards i have yet to see JR be known for anythign else. Huge concern for me.
November 23rd, 2009 at 7:21 pm
Priest is in here dumbing up the blog and you suckers take his bait every dam time..
lol
November 23rd, 2009 at 7:22 pm
Priesttj,
All I ask is the team compete and put in the effort. But to hear about not putting work in, overweight and skipping meetings…I have a problem with that.
If Russell was benched but doing all the right things..then I would agree with your position..
But as a former athlete…I find the idea of not bothering to attend meetings and keep your body in shape is a sign of disrespect to your teammates.
At $30M dollars…why isn’t he ready to roll on the preparation and commitment side.
November 23rd, 2009 at 7:24 pm
SnB, your smarter than that man, you’re letting ONE win get you drunk with visions of granduer. Sober up this is the NFL. Talent always wins out. Russell has shown that he can win in this league regardless to what the naysayers say. He has shown that. Yes he has struggled no question but if they pput the right talent around him and he grows up the Raiders will have one of most dominant QB’s in the league.
And they know it. Trust me.
November 23rd, 2009 at 7:24 pm
Priest, you act like this kid can just ‘flip a switch’ and turn it on.
So some extra hours a the facility are gonna change him overnight? “in his sleep”?
No, a dedication to nutrition, training his mind and getting in and staying in playing shape year round would be a start.
But i guess he could do all that “in his sleep”…I always like reading your posts, but i don’t see it happening so easy.
November 23rd, 2009 at 7:25 pm
At this moment Priestj,
I am in heaven if God would guarantee me that the RAiders will have an avg QB on our team for the remainder of the season. I’ll even give up sex for the rest of the season for avg QB play. It sucks the last 8 weeks knowing that every game we go in the game with a handicap at QB.
November 23rd, 2009 at 7:25 pm
Priestj
“All Russell has to do is…” Sounds like a wife whose husband is beating her – excuses excuses. This guy was given the team on a silver platter and can’t make it work. He actually regressed from last year. How long do we double down and chase our loses? Until he is 25,26 or 27? I know if I was a coach I would have benched him after the 2nd or third game because his poor performance would be jeopordizing my job.
November 23rd, 2009 at 7:28 pm
priesttj Says:
November 23rd, 2009 at 7:24 pm
SnB, your smarter than that man, you’re letting ONE win get you drunk with visions of granduer. Sober up this is the NFL. Talent always wins out. Russell has shown that he can win in this league regardless to what the naysayers say. He has shown that. Yes he has struggled no question but if they pput the right talent around him and he grows up the Raiders will have one of most dominant QB’s in the league.
And they know it. Trust me.
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I know what Gradkowski represents. He’s a gritty player but I doubt he’s any real solution. He’s a serviceable backup at best.
As for Russell, somehow he has to learn the basics of the game. Its disturbing to hear the comments about what Gradkowski does that Russell doesn’t ….basics like line checks, the amount of the playbook and others things.
At year 3, Russell needs to be better than that. Not working on the basics because he’s missing, meetings and showing up overweight.
That’s not promising at all
November 23rd, 2009 at 7:31 pm
Clue about what Priest I am so tired of you and others apologizing for this bust o rama. Get a replay and look at all the stupid plays JR made this year. Here is a question who played worse than JR the first half of the season this year?
November 23rd, 2009 at 7:31 pm
So were a lot of young QB’s he wasn’t ready it’s obvious, but he showed that he can win in this league. He did it!!
He has shown when he is confident he can slice defenses up. he’s done late in games with the game on the line. He’s DONE IT!! now because he strugles like all young QB’s he has no chance.
You guy’s are crazy, he just needs t put the time in to get better……..period That’s all Grads has done put the time in. I’ll take Russell against Dallas over Grads right now.
Russell in two years will leave grads in his rear view mirror on his way to the playoffs.
November 23rd, 2009 at 7:33 pm
If JR was actually ‘Fit’ his brain would function faster on game day, there is a direct corrolation between how hard your heart is working and the ability to make decisions, therefore, he’s limiting himself, by being out of shape, but it’s cool. He can change all this “in his sleep”…
November 23rd, 2009 at 7:34 pm
I aintr aplogizing fro nothing fool, I balst him for what he does. You guy’s just tell a bunch of embellished lies on the kid.
He has struggled and been immature no question but he is hands down a better QB than Grads if he has his confidence………..period
November 23rd, 2009 at 7:35 pm
1960,
You are falling into his trap. He says Russell is great so you and others debate him. You keep throwing peanuts into the monkeys cage and will toss poop at you.
Nobody is that stupid to believe Russell has anything…
November 23rd, 2009 at 7:36 pm
Why do you people even bother chatting with the blithering idiot known as Priest?? Seriously. Someone tell me how you can even have a convo with such a complete dillusional fool. Russell has shown he can win? LOL! Russell has sliced up defenses?? LMFAO!
November 23rd, 2009 at 7:37 pm
Its pathetic.
But he gets these fools to debate him..
# Dude Says:
November 23rd, 2009 at 7:36 pm
Why do you people even bother chatting with the blithering idiot known as Priest?? Seriously. Someone tell me how you can even have a convo with such a complete dillusional fool. Russell has shown he can win? LOL! Russell has sliced up defenses?? LMFAO!
November 23rd, 2009 at 7:37 pm
Hands down a better QB than Gradkowski?? LOL!!
On his way to the playoffs?? LOL!!!
November 23rd, 2009 at 7:37 pm
4 QB’s played worse, Brady Quinn, Anderson, Delhomme and Cutler. All played worse, Russell just had more drops…..
November 23rd, 2009 at 7:38 pm
SnB
Russell was allowed to start all season, as DHB has, is because they’re Davis’ fantasy.
How’s that for an answer?
November 23rd, 2009 at 7:39 pm
So throw it all away over a HALF of a season of poor play?
The way the kid finished last year should be enough to keep him on the team.
LMFAO at cutting the guy. Not ONE person was Russell bashing after the Tampa game last year. He finished the season strong despite a BUNCH of BS and the 2 worst OTs in the league.
You can’t make emotional decisions like that, lol. Bench the guy and fine him.
November 23rd, 2009 at 7:39 pm
Mista,
Its the guys who dont know any better. I am starting to think the guy is joking. Really, I mean theres no way a non retarded person could even think the way he does.
November 23rd, 2009 at 7:40 pm
Brady Quinn had more TDs yesterday than Russell has all year.
November 23rd, 2009 at 7:40 pm
I see the twin dummies came in here, see how you guy’s draw flies!
November 23rd, 2009 at 7:41 pm
VanHeathen Says:
November 23rd, 2009 at 7:33 pm
If JR was actually ‘Fit’ his brain would function faster on game day, there is a direct corrolation between how hard your heart is working and the ability to make decisions, therefore, he’s limiting himself, by being out of shape,
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Well at least that was original ….
November 23rd, 2009 at 7:42 pm
And by the way…. What the hell is Cable doing starting Gradkowski? What a joke. Russell dznt appear to be headed in the right direction but if he is the future he needs to be playing. Period.
November 23rd, 2009 at 7:42 pm
Heres something pretty dam stupid:
Nick Miller has wasted a roster spot for 10 weeks.
Heres something just as stupid. Priest calling N Miller a Db killer – O catches in the NFL, 0 Td’s in the NFL. But he names him the “db killer”.
# priesttj Says:
November 12th, 2009 at 12:03 am
Even their Wes Welker type got hurt “Nick Miller the DB killer”.
But “Black Moses” will soon appear at a stadium near you. Dress rehearsals are still under way. Previews this winter and show premiers next season with sold out dates in early Sept 2010 get your tickets NOW!!
November 23rd, 2009 at 7:42 pm
Mistabrown you are right. I am just ticked off about the waste of a draft pick we could of had an awesome WR or one of the best RBs that has come out in the last 5-10 years. I guess what done is done and it is time to move on.
It will be interesting to see next week how Gradkowski does on the road in Dallas. I am glad to finally see the Raiders win a game like the one with Cincinati. We don’t need a great QB to win games but if he can just play well enough to keep the defense honest against the run….
November 23rd, 2009 at 7:43 pm
Priest,
Do you even realize how big of a joke you are around here? How about on the radio waves? Everyone makes fun of you all the time and you dont even realize it. LOL!
November 23rd, 2009 at 7:44 pm
Man – out later round draft picks turn out MUCH BETTER than our 1st round picks almost always!!!!
Good thing we traded our 1st round pick next year….won’t waste money on a failed pick! Now if we just put DHB with LESS playing time and give the other WRs a chance (he still is dropping passes like crazy) then we’ll improve the offense even more.
November 23rd, 2009 at 7:44 pm
It would be one thing if JR was putting in the time and just not getting results. But every story I hear about him is about how much of an arrogant lazy jerk he is.
Does anyone know when would be the earliest that the Raiders could part ways wih him? Isnt 2010 the no cap year. Can we cut him them. AD is not afraid of admitting his mistake and cutting high priced players.
We need to sign Vick next year. I think he would be a perfect addition and he should be familiar with Cable’s offense.
November 23rd, 2009 at 7:45 pm
Mista,
How about when he said by mid season the Raider offense would be “dominating the league”?? LOL!!
November 23rd, 2009 at 7:45 pm
Question, how many DB’s has Nick Miller killed in his NFL career?
A-0
B-0
or
C-All of the above
November 23rd, 2009 at 7:46 pm
Dude he says that every August he has a disease.
November 23rd, 2009 at 7:46 pm
The Raiders should not be let anywhere near a 1st round of a draft. They make their best picks on the 2nd day. Is there any other probowler we can get for a 2010 1st round pick.
November 23rd, 2009 at 7:46 pm
Ummmm… I am gonna guess C, all of the above
November 23rd, 2009 at 7:47 pm
Jhill, I respect you, and SnB should know better than to cut a talent like this kid.
Yes, he has stcrewed up royally and been a complete knucklehead but he has more talent than Grads can dream about. And based on what Cable is saying he said he’s handling the situation as a pro. The kid is young and stupid at times. But he will learn and get better and if your the Raiders you definitely want to benefit from that.
Young people do some very stupid things as the old saying goes “youth is wasted on the young” he’ll learn and be better for it.
November 23rd, 2009 at 7:47 pm
Andre Smith showed up slothful to training camp and promptly injured his foot.
The Bengals aren’t forcing this highly paid pick into the lineup.
November 23rd, 2009 at 7:47 pm
I’m jsut wondering if were going to keep Nick on the roster till week 12 before we put him on IR. So glad we don’t need a GM.
And Jonathan Holland’s next good kick return, will be his first…
November 23rd, 2009 at 7:48 pm
When did Russell prove anything but that he is lazy and that Ryan Leaf can feel safe now when they talk about the biggest bust they will talk about the fattest of them all literally Russell. Why have Lawton in their at all every play he in their I think y not run fargas as FB with Bush or Mcfadden .
November 23rd, 2009 at 7:49 pm
Dude have you seen this once in a lifetime skill set Russell has? I mean seriously you can only compare Russell to Elway or Manning.
lmao
November 23rd, 2009 at 7:49 pm
Jamarcu Russell has NEVER proved anything.
November 23rd, 2009 at 7:49 pm
Jhill, I would’ve loved to have seen him all year long with a healthy Chaz and JLH and the little nickie Miller. I think you would’ve seen a different Russell.
November 23rd, 2009 at 7:50 pm
This sure is a great place to get a laugh.
Professional sports has been littered with busts for a long time. There are intangibles that are evident, not to hard to see. Just because a person has a man-crush on a particular player, well, that’s his problem.
Right on SnB. You have a real clear understanding of the organization. No need to debate it.
November 23rd, 2009 at 7:51 pm
Chaz, JLH and Nick Miller………. The guy is actually trying to act as if those guys are legit NFL WRs. Unreal.
November 23rd, 2009 at 7:51 pm
Dude Says:
November 23rd, 2009 at 7:42 pm
And by the way…. What the hell is Cable doing starting Gradkowski? What a joke. Russell dznt appear to be headed in the right direction but if he is the future he needs to be playing. Period.
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man, I hope the above post was meant with Sarcasm…..or else it is just as stupid as Mr.
November 23rd, 2009 at 7:51 pm
Priest cant even defend himself
November 23rd, 2009 at 7:51 pm
All this talk about talent prevailing makes me think about Gannon, who’s greatest talent were his work ethic and his brain…neither of those have anything to do with height/weight and 40 time.
But, i think it got him an MVP trophy.
November 23rd, 2009 at 7:51 pm
Little Nickie Miller the DB killer.
November 23rd, 2009 at 7:52 pm
Then Al Davis took the Kid out of a moving pocket, play-action type game run by Kiffin and dropped him into his oldies but goodies Marc Wilson/Andrew Walter version of the Vertical Passing Attack “Great Raider Traditions”.
November 23rd, 2009 at 7:53 pm
Priest,
When you talk about Russell having more talent than Russell, you’re really just saying that he has a better arm. I don’t think anyone is disputing that. Russell can certainly make some throws that Gradkowski can’t.
But I think it’s also fair to say that Gradkowski can make some throws that Russell can’t.
I don’t get caught up in all the hoop-la. I don’t really care how he talks, what he wears, or how much he weighs. He just needs to stop bouncing the ball around, and MOST importantly, get his footwork straight. Dude could be 400lbs for all I care. But if he had his footwork were better, he’d be a bit more accurate.
I understand that the things that are wrong with this kid can easily be fixed. But you can only lead a horse to water, ya know?
November 23rd, 2009 at 7:53 pm
Its one thing to be a devoted fan its another thing to have your head so far pushed up into your anal cavity that nobody can make eye contact with you.
November 23rd, 2009 at 7:55 pm
I’ll tell you what put Grads and Russell on the OPEN MARKET and see which one gets picked up first.
November 23rd, 2009 at 7:56 pm
You can put JR with Moss and TO and the guy from Carolina in the slot and he still would have low numbers because you have to throw it to where they are with proper timing. I mean he has trouble hitting Bush or DMac in stride how is he supposed to hit a WR in stride. About all he does well is throw darts at his TE because he does have incredible arm strength but that is only one dimension of what you have to do to be a legit NFL QB.
November 23rd, 2009 at 7:56 pm
Anyone who thinks Chaz can’t play in this league is an idiot. I mean he only went up and caught a pass behind him while running full speed between two defenders.
November 23rd, 2009 at 7:56 pm
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November 23rd, 2009 at 7:58 pm
Enough talk about JaBustus. Lets talk about a bright spot on the team that is actually helping us be competitive. Mario freakin Henderson. That kid has been playing pretty well. Also, has anyone else noticed how big he looks? Did he hit up a cycle of roids in the off-season?
November 23rd, 2009 at 7:59 pm
Id trade JaMeatball for VY in a heart beat. I would even drive that lump to the airport.
November 23rd, 2009 at 7:59 pm
1960AutumnWind Says:
November 23rd, 2009 at 7:56 pm
You can put JR with Moss and TO and the guy from Carolina in the slot and he still would have low numbers
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LMFAO!
You have GOT to be kidding me! This is where it just really gets crazy!
November 23rd, 2009 at 7:59 pm
Crime,
he looked bigger than Gallery yesterday. i was shocked when they camera showed both of them.
November 23rd, 2009 at 8:01 pm
Jhill,
1960 has a point. I mean his numbers would go up some but it’s not a coincidence that murphy mentioned Grad as being Punctual. I can’t remember any back shoulder throws by JR this year bro. He did it last year but not this year. he has yet to put the ball consistently where OUR receiver can go fight for it.
November 23rd, 2009 at 8:01 pm
Crimedog Says:
November 23rd, 2009 at 7:58 pm
Enough talk about JaBustus. Lets talk about a bright spot on the team that is actually helping us be competitive.
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Exactly! Why are we even wasting our breath on Russell?
I’m really just trying to stay focused on how we can contain the RBs from Dallas. Especially on screens.
Speaking of screens, did we run ONE screen play last week?
November 23rd, 2009 at 8:02 pm
You mean those guys cant balls 3 feet over their head or behind? They cant scoop balls out of the dirt?
Jablunt cant even execute 7 on 7 with no contact. He’s a pathetic lump.
1960AutumnWind Says:
November 23rd, 2009 at 7:56 pm
You can put JR with Moss and TO and the guy from Carolina in the slot and he still would have low numbers
November 23rd, 2009 at 8:04 pm
Jhill, agreed no problem there. And I’m not just talking arm I’m talking upside. Grads is easily shead of Russell in terms of mechanics , no question and capacity to read defenses and check in and out of plays. He’s got him dead to rights.
But he gt that from the QB coach we have right now, this is what I’m talking about for less knowledgable. Russell gives you much more to work with interms of skillset. he can learn all the things Grads has. Grads has better touch on dinks and dunks and movement skills. Right now his accuracy is better due to confidence in what he sees. And confidence in his surroundings. But that is a TON when leading a team.
So if I can correct myself. Grads is in fact the better QB right NOW!! but what you don’t understand is that Russell’s career hasn’t even gotten started yet.
November 23rd, 2009 at 8:04 pm
Seriously, he wears those pads that cut off above his shoulder and his arms and shoulders look massive. This kid seriously wants to get better and be a player in this league, unlike JaWalrus. He still makes occasional mistakes but he appears light years ahead of where he was last year.
November 23rd, 2009 at 8:05 pm
Just started watching VY play …man, he is playing much different than before …I still think they’ve got him running too much ..baby steps I guess.
But the fundamental difference I see is he’s more poised and he’s softened his throw. Much more touch than before although he can still throw it when need be.
Maybe Russell can take some lesson on VYs change in his throw.
November 23rd, 2009 at 8:05 pm
Jhill
I know I know I went a little far on that one. Its just the Jamarcus worship is driving me crazy.
CD – Henderson is doing well. If Grads can get the Def to not load the box it would be nice to see the running game to come on.
November 23rd, 2009 at 8:06 pm
Aig,
I’m not buying it. Add 3 pro bowl WRs to this offense and all 3 of our QB would be much better. Do you see some of the catches those guys make?
I’d love to be proved wrong. Go ahead AL! Make the move to bring 3 pro bowlers. I’ll settle for 85 in the slot, Boldin on 1 side, and we can even keep Chaz and Murphy.
I’d really like to see that!
November 23rd, 2009 at 8:06 pm
Priest, how long is JR gonna wait to ‘get started’. the clock has been ticking, and it seems like he’s a slacker w/ a taste for the nightlife, and we know what that did to D-Russ and Marinovich…
November 23rd, 2009 at 8:10 pm
Jhill,
I agree with you. Chaz bailed out Grad on that big thrwo behind Chaz running fullspeed yesterday. Nobody else on our team can do that. That’s why i said his numbers would go up. But Russell’s lack of field knowledge would still limit him. When he only uses half of the field then the team is playing with a handicap. I mean Russel can’t even audible. We know you have to be able to audible. Gannon pointed out that when JR audible it means it is a running play because JR is only bluffing.
November 23rd, 2009 at 8:10 pm
Last year at the end of the year Russell had competent help arund him this year he had Garbage……..period even Fargas was out and so was DMC. Our best WR’s were out. We had two babies lining up stumbling all over the field.
Grads is benefitting from all of what Russell didn’t have. Give Russell tw weeks with JLH, Chaz and Murphy and the two TE’s with DMC and Fargas all healthy and we’ll see what kind of QB he really is.
November 23rd, 2009 at 8:12 pm
Not to mention the biggest problem the Oline sucked.
November 23rd, 2009 at 8:12 pm
So if I can correct myself. Grads is in fact the better QB right NOW!! but what you don’t understand is that Russell’s career hasn’t even gotten started yet.
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I understand what you are saying, man. But the thing is Russell’s career is only going to go as far as he takes it. It’s a simple as him becoming a gym rat. Really, it’s that simple. I’ve seen PLENTY of guys with “talent”, but it just wasn’t that important to them. I actually think it is important to him. I think he likes his wealth and the perks that come along with it, so he’ll get it. He may have already gotten it for all I know.
November 23rd, 2009 at 8:12 pm
Priest,
Based on JR’s body language yesterday on the sideline. My hunch is he is accepting it well. This offseason is key to his future with the rAiders.
November 23rd, 2009 at 8:17 pm
aig Says:
November 23rd, 2009 at 8:10 pm
Jhill,
I agree with you. Chaz bailed out Grad on that big thrwo behind Chaz running fullspeed yesterday. Nobody else on our team can do that.
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Chaz bailed out Russell plenty of times of those same throws. Russell didn’t have to be perfect with Chaz and Miller in the lineup. That’s why for the life of me I just can’t understand the decision to go with DHB and Murphy. Russell looked better with Lelie and Curry last year, right or wrong?
Russell can read the field, he just refuses to look to the side that DHB is on because he doesn’t trust him. He trusts his arm more than his team mate, and he thinks he can just get it to Miller and the RBs. He’s not doing a good job of just “playing QB”.
November 23rd, 2009 at 8:19 pm
Aig, you are a liar if yu say he can’t audible Russell was checking plays as of last year. See that’s what I mean when I say these guy’s do nothing but lie on this kid or they are too ignorant to see when he’s audibling.
And that ny friends is MY biggest aregument about the criticisms of Russell is that the majority of them are inaccurate. Just as this one is.
No coach in his right mind would play a QB that cannot audible. But most in here are too ignorant to know that.
November 23rd, 2009 at 8:20 pm
I guess I was watching different QB but I thought I saw a QB that looked like JR overthow and under throw RBs on checkdowns and on a Monday night FB game hear a commentator observe what I was also seeing that they were only giving JR half the field at a time. I was wondering which part of that had to do without having the awesome tools such as JLH like he had last year?
November 23rd, 2009 at 8:20 pm
Crime,
You know Henderson wants to be out ther. Remember him showing up a day or two early to the hotel for camp?
And he was here everyday of the offseason. Funny thing is, he was the main one taking up for Russell this offseason saying that he was right there with him.
Hmmmm ….
November 23rd, 2009 at 8:23 pm
It was the same QB 1960.
Russell certainly misses his more than his fair share of easy throws.
November 23rd, 2009 at 8:24 pm
But ANYWAY …
How about that Bruce Gradkowski??????
I hated Gannon, but I have to admit that I hate losing more than I hate the dink and dunk.
November 23rd, 2009 at 8:26 pm
Priest,
It was obvious. Gannon pointed it out and sure enough a running play happened right after. We can pick on Gannon for all we want but the guy knows what he is talkign about. He studied Russell all season and says whenever Russell audibles …JR is just trying to bluff the D. And that The D knows full well it is a running play because Russell doesnt audible. Since those comments fromt he Denver Game, i have to agree. I know you love JR and defend to death but we can surely agree that JR has not put in the dedication for his craft. JR doesnt know the playbook the way he is supposed to. That is why they limit the playbook on him and Steve Young pointed out that they keep things fairly simple for JR. bill parcells did the same thing with his black QB with the Cowgirls once as well.
November 23rd, 2009 at 8:28 pm
How about him… He gives us the best chance to win. Hopefully they can build on last weeks game and add some more into the offense. I would love to see a play action burn with Dallas cheating 8-9 in the box giving the passing game no respect.
November 23rd, 2009 at 8:29 pm
Did anyone else notice on that TD to Murphy he’s actually running backward just before he catches it? Weird route at best. Was Gradkowski just being creative or was that play actually drawn up? I’d originally thought it was a deep out thrown before the break, but the highlights show something much more random.
November 23rd, 2009 at 8:31 pm
Aig, you’re a fool if you think he can’t audible n QB starts without that being part of his arsenal. It would be stupid of a coach that STARTS a QB who cannpt when he has QB’s on the bench that can.
If you believe that then you just don’t know football. And I don’t give a damn what Gannon said it tok him 8 years to become a starter. Probably because he couldn’t audible.
November 23rd, 2009 at 8:35 pm
priesttj Says:
November 23rd, 2009 at 7:05 pm
Snb, you don’t knw what the hell you’re talking about, Cable doesn’t believe in Russell. He has NEVER ever said he had given up on him. You can listen to ESPN all yu want but you’re sucker to do so.
Hear ye
Hear ye :1: From here on out everyone listen to bhp 
(we all know what those initials stand for) 
From today on 
do not listen to ESPN 
Do not listen to Gannon 
Do not listen to Tim Brown 
Do not listen to anyone who get paid for their opinions 
bhp 
(we all know what hose initials stand for) 
is the sole expert on the Raider orginization 
There is no need 
to formulate your own opinions 
All that is needed is to believe in bhp 
November 23rd, 2009 at 8:36 pm
1 agree 1960 …
I really would like to see the playbook opened up since Grads is so on top of things. Let’s see a screen for crying out loud. How about a reverse? How about DMAC or DHB against a S or LB?
That would be fun to see.
November 23rd, 2009 at 8:37 pm
No doubt Grads is ahead of russell NOW, but what I saw Sunday doesn’t show it is significant. So we’ll see………
November 23rd, 2009 at 8:38 pm
kidseven Says:
November 23rd, 2009 at 8:29 pm
Did anyone else notice on that TD to Murphy he’s actually running backward just before he catches it? Weird route at best.
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Murphy did a great job of adjusting to the ball. The kid is getting better. They mentioned that he took Russell benching personally and has been catching an additional 200 balls a day. That kid is going to be just fine.
November 23rd, 2009 at 8:39 pm
That’s weird
I 
always thought that bhp 
and aig 
were kissing cousins 
After all they both wipe the old geezers 
arse with their tongues 
November 23rd, 2009 at 8:40 pm
He should take it personally Jhill he was part of the problem. DHB should give him a game check. 8 passes thrown his way and 1 catch……crazy!
November 23rd, 2009 at 8:41 pm
Priest,
What you saw Sunday was Grads following orders and throwing the ball to DHB. He was targeted 8 times and only caught 1 pass. It doesn’t really matter what QB you have out there. Those types of numbers are going to make your QB look unimpressive.
The good thing about Sunday was Cable not trying to feature DHB on the game winning drive like he did last week. Could you imagine that 4th down pass to Chaz being to DHB? Or that TD pass?
November 23rd, 2009 at 8:44 pm
Jhill, and that gawd for that, Cable is personally resposible for the KC loss throwing to that baby. When Chaz was available. Anybody would’ve been better!!
November 23rd, 2009 at 8:44 pm
You know the sad thing about the DHB thing is that Cable was really trying to sit here and tell us that the WRs were open.
I think I saw DHB open ONE time yesterday. He NEVER had seperation from his man, and Grads was in jeopardy of being picked every time he threw his way.
I just don’t get it!
November 23rd, 2009 at 8:45 pm
” thank gawd for that”
November 23rd, 2009 at 8:47 pm
DHB should be alternating with Murphy in the slot. Get that kid a matchup that he can have a good chance of winning. In the slot, he could go against a LB, S, or nickle corner. Let him run a few 5 yd slants, or 10 yd curls.
November 23rd, 2009 at 8:47 pm
Priest
No we have to give Grad 8 games before we can know. (That is a joke) I do not think anyone has any illusions that Grad is the 2nd comming of Kurt Warner but I am not sure I can take anymore of JR losing games. Learning the offense is what the preseason is for. JR should have been better than he was.
November 23rd, 2009 at 8:48 pm
LOL …
Try an dumb it down for DHB and do the equivalent of handing him the ball. Reverse, screens, 5 yd slants, and quick curls.
Baby steps!
November 23rd, 2009 at 8:49 pm
Jhill, NOW you finally understand why I am so vehement in my support of Russell. The way Murphy was playing and DHB and we are blasting Russell. Cable tells a lot of lies to justify some crazy stuff. Like the 4 drops for each QB thing, flat out lie.
For reasons I’m not sure of Russell was scapegoated for this mess when it was a coaches decision to play these babies. Cable is a flat out liar.
November 23rd, 2009 at 8:54 pm
Auttumnwind, you just don’t get it. Sorry. Grads is OK I have no problem with him. I also think Russell NEEDED this breather it will serve him well. But he didn’t loook bad by himself he had a TON of help.
November 23rd, 2009 at 8:56 pm
Playing Grads …you’re winning the war but losing the battle ..simple as that.
If for 1 minute you think Grads is better than Russell you must check your IQ. Maybe a better grasp of the game from his experience but talent? Not even in the same ball park.
November 23rd, 2009 at 8:56 pm
Priest,
I got that from the start. Russell allowed himself to be scapegoated, IMO. There is NO excuse for the QB to give off the perception that he doesn’t care. Whether it is true or not, the old saying about perception being reality is in play. Russell would be adored by fans if he was at least the hardest working guy in the building. And if he was the hardest working guy in the building, he wouldn’t be having half the issues he’s having. Like you said, the kid has been acting really immature, and we just can’t have that.
November 23rd, 2009 at 8:59 pm
oh wrong way….winning the battle but losing the war ..damn …its getting late ..my IQ is dropping down to ya’ll mo-fos
November 23rd, 2009 at 8:59 pm
Man, there are lot of conspiracy theories in here. I think it’s something about Al Davis that breeds them.
In the last few days I’ve read that Jamarcus was benched because he’s black, because Hackett is out to get him, and because the coaches purposely call crap plays for him.
I’ve read that Grads is following orders to throw to DHB, and that Cable benched Russell so he could alternately scapegoat him, and as someone else suggested, bring him back in and take credit for his improved performance.
I prefer Occam’s Razor–the simplest answer is usually the best one. I think the players and coaches are doing everything they can to win. If something works they’ll probably stick with it (accept for running Bush more than 5 times a game–apparently that’s too much to ask. Maybe Bush was too close to Randy Hanson…ooh…spooky)
November 23rd, 2009 at 8:59 pm
Terrapin,
The job is there for Russell to take it. It’s simply on him to take it back. Just like Cable says up top. Russell just needs to show some consistency. Not 1 day here or a series or 2 there. He needs to be consistent is everything he does as the QB of the Raiders. And that most certainly includes 6am-6pm Monday thru Sunday!
November 23rd, 2009 at 9:04 pm
LOL …
Ok Seven, you really think there is a simple answer? You already contradicted the answer even you came up with. There is NO reason why Bush should have ended up with only 14 carries last week, and only 4 this week.
WTF is going on?
Can ANYONE tell me what Cable’s game plan is?
November 23rd, 2009 at 9:04 pm
Priest,
Bro, sometimes you’re too much. Not sure wth you’re trying to say but my point is JR can’t audible right now. Not last year not college but right very fcking now. Gannon pointed that out and he was backed up by the very next play that transpired on the screen. Steve Young mentioned that on the first game that JR is only looking on one side of the field. Cable even acknwledged that JR was supposed to audible on that first 4 vert play against the Jets. First play of the game for the O and JR was already lost in la la land. Dude, i know you love JR but stop being so fckign blind. I hope he becomes VY but right now he is a liability.
November 23rd, 2009 at 9:06 pm
Kidseven,
That play to Murphy they practiced alot last week. Murphy said so. He was supposed to cut the route short to a Dig if it was a cover 2 or take it to the seam if cover 1. It was cover 1, he took it to the seam and the throw is supposed to be a backshoulder throw. They practiced it and it was delivered. TD!
November 23rd, 2009 at 9:07 pm
Watching VYs game change gives you hope for Russell. Actually, I’m confident Russell can be much better than Young – a lot better probably. He just needs to apply himself just as much if not more. Thats all it takes for him.
Dude is arguably one of the most “gifted” QBs in the league. He just needs to apply those talents through hard work and being consistent.
November 23rd, 2009 at 9:09 pm
Jhill,
I know, I know. Some of things do seem inexplicable, but I still say it has more to do with bad gameplanning or other mundane reasons–not a grand conspiracy. Cable seems to be determined to get the passing game going and it’s probably cost us some games. But then who would have thought Russell would struggle so mightily.
November 23rd, 2009 at 9:11 pm
aig Says: That play to Murphy they practiced alot last week.
That’s really good to hear. That’s the kind of stuff that makes all the difference.
November 23rd, 2009 at 9:12 pm
As much as everyone would like to see DHB have a seat on the bench, I just don’t think it’s going to happen anytime soon. And the reason for it, the ghoul upstairs.
Davis knows the players he’s taken in the first round have been lousy, but he’s a stubborn old man. He knows it’s making him look bad.
You can’t hide Russell and his awful play, so he had to sit. Hopefully, he can turn it around, but who knows?
DHB has also been awful, but you can get away with it by not throwing to him. You can talk him up by saying he’s ” a good blocker” and ” he’s turning the corner.” But if he’s on the field, then he’s not another first round bust. Or that’s what the organization will tell the fans.
I’m sure Al sees DHB as the next Art powell, Warren Wells, James Lofton or Cliff Branch. Right now, he’s just a track guy who can’t catch.
November 23rd, 2009 at 9:12 pm
Cable’s running too many backs ..simple as that. Stick with 2. Let them get in some kind of rhythm. Bush started and still couldn’t get any carries.
Make up your mind Cable. You may think this thing is working great but reality is a btch. It is not and this running game could be a TON more dominant.
Just poor utilization of the talent. He must have ran that full back rollout like 5 times Sunday. Since when did Lawton become this must throw to player? I’m just satisfied the guy didn’t drop the balls like he’s being doing all damn season. Given that history, for Cable to run that play to him so many times is damn near crazy.
November 23rd, 2009 at 9:14 pm
# 16yearsold16yearfan Says:
November 23rd, 2009 at 7:15 pm
priesttj….thank you so much for the tickets and F lot passes that was awesome my son and I got so many autographs we had a blast i can’t say thank you enough.My
son said thank you as well
How come
bhp 
(we all know what those initials stand for) 
gets to have two screen names 
and the rest of us only one 
November 23rd, 2009 at 9:14 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
November 23rd, 2009 at 1:48 pm
repost:
True Raider, I’ll happily await any quotes you have from players saying that Russell being benched motivates them. And I love the way you put it, too. “what you guys don’t realize is”. LOL. Like you’re an insider! You just assume the team feels the same way about Russell as you do, without one single quote from one player. You’ve figured this out from your living room, and having never met a Raider player in your life. I love this blog. Nonstop entertainment.
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AND REAL maddenraider…where do your deep and more important, and according to you, more accurate “opinions” of what is true and acceptable come from?
Your own seriously deluded, self-important, Al-davis-hating OBSESSED reality?
You are so seriously flawed, I am laughing that you have not commented now for 3 postings by Jerry, and since your own tragically pathetic postings full of rascism and hate, that I hope you have enough self-respect to never come back and comment again.
Instead I hope, you have gone to get the serious mental help that you require, and as REAL RAIDER fans, we will accept you back and a few laughs together after you have admitted to same.
Get fixed man.
November 23rd, 2009 at 9:16 pm
Nice job on the tix BHP!
November 23rd, 2009 at 9:16 pm
NorthernD Says:
November 23rd, 2009 at 9:12 pm
As much as everyone would like to see DHB have a seat on the bench, I just don’t think it’s going to happen anytime soon. And the reason for it, the ghoul upstairs.
That’s GOD to you: signed…priesttj
November 23rd, 2009 at 9:18 pm
jhill Says:
November 23rd, 2009 at 9:04 pm
LOL …
Ok Seven, you really think there is a simple answer? You already contradicted the answer even you came up with. There is NO reason why Bush should have ended up with only 14 carries last week, and only 4 this week.
WTF is going on?
Can ANYONE tell me what Cable’s game plan is?
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Cable likes Fargas because he runs with ” violence” and runs all out. So he’ll get touches.
Davis likes McFadden and his speed. Plus he’s a first rounder so he has to get touches.
And then there’s Bush. He’s clearly the best back, so they have to give him carries in order to get first downs.
RB by committee. Dumb.
November 23rd, 2009 at 9:18 pm
It sux that the Raiders have $87 million in busts contributing nothing to the team (Jbust, McFalldown and Wayward Bey). Everyone else seems to be playing hard.
November 23rd, 2009 at 9:19 pm
Terrapin,
Well said. I was thinking exactly the same thing when Lawton got that catch: why? I have nothing against Lawton, in fact I’ve defended him and thing he’s an asset, but with the limited number of plays the offense will get–why is he getting that catch?
What makes it more infuriating is the fact that for all of their flaws the Raiders have a lot of guys who can potentially create big things on short catches–Lawton aint one of them.
November 23rd, 2009 at 9:20 pm
AiG, it’s simple I’m saying you’re stupid get it?
Russell audible’s every game you damn fool. From runs to pass from pass to run. If you think he can’t audible you’re a nitwit……………period
November 23rd, 2009 at 9:20 pm
Trolls 35 Raiders 0 Says:
November 23rd, 2009 at 9:16 pm
NorthernD Says:
November 23rd, 2009 at 9:12 pm
As much as everyone would like to see DHB have a seat on the bench, I just don’t think it’s going to happen anytime soon. And the reason for it, the ghoul upstairs.
That’s GOD to you: signed…priesttj
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Mr. GOD
November 23rd, 2009 at 9:21 pm
what we learned this weekend is that the whole team is not seriously flawed…just too many rookies at too many important positions.
Don’t get me wrong, I don’t consider Jamarcus a “rookie”, he was picked too high and paid too much to have 3 years to be still a rookie and playing like one. He needs to man-up and make serious steps to be better than your average guy. That’s part of the perq’s of being the QB or the man.
You can’t suck while your sucking up the perq’s or else the whole system breaks down.
November 23rd, 2009 at 9:23 pm
I love Bush…but he seems to find a lot of reasons for getting himself taken out….winded, dinged, fumbles, he’s not stepping up.
November 23rd, 2009 at 9:24 pm
C’mon Priesttj….Jamarcus has zero field presence
November 23rd, 2009 at 9:27 pm
Jamarcus has to re-invent himself or he will become the hughest “bust” in NFL history…tough label, but he played himself.
November 23rd, 2009 at 9:30 pm
Yep. Those same passes even Gary Russell was breaking tackles and making things happen – and he proved that repeatedly. Why Lawton kept getting those plays I don’t know. You just have so many better candidates, even candidates that can blow the game completely open. Lawton just aint one of them. Sorry. He’s not. Poor utilization of talent.
November 23rd, 2009 at 9:35 pm
i want to clear up what i was telling you guys about russell if cable wanted to bench him fine but it was when he benched him not why if you want to bench russell do it after the bye before the game starts or earlier in the season dont do it in the one game where he is throwing good passes and getting them dropped or called back because of a penalty and the most annoying thing is he was benched the game his best wr was starting and all his rb’s were healthy and if it was his work ethic he should have been benched in week 4 until he started improving
November 23rd, 2009 at 9:36 pm
The 80yr old GM produces this:
09′ 3-7
08′ 5-11
07′ 4-12
06′ 2-14
05′ 4-12
04′ 5-11
03′ 4-12
That’s the bottom line!
But it looks like they’re setting up Cable for the Bus, this year.
November 23rd, 2009 at 9:37 pm
give Bush 20-25 carries a game…..
make DMAC and DHB return punts and kick-offs…….
rotate Shilens, Murphy, JLH, DHB, Walker??? at receiver…….
give DMAC touches out in space….
make Jamarcus lose weight, learn the playbook, develop communication skills with at least his team-mates…
whoever doesn’t perform..get rid of…and replace.
November 23rd, 2009 at 9:38 pm
KoolKell Says:
November 23rd, 2009 at 9:36 pm
The 80yr old GM produces this:
09′ 3-7
08′ 5-11
07′ 4-12
06′ 2-14
05′ 4-12
04′ 5-11
03′ 4-12
That’s the bottom line!
But it looks like they’re setting up Cable for the Bus, this year.
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Oh good…almost went a whole day without this post…how UNKOOL-kell
November 23rd, 2009 at 9:39 pm
I don’t even think Bread & Breakfast had a worse fan showing that what Cable has at the games right now.
November 23rd, 2009 at 9:40 pm
out.
November 23rd, 2009 at 9:40 pm
The only reason Lawton must be getting playing time over Russell is that he’s grading out better in the blocking department, and that’s their first job anyway.
I know I don’t really pay attention to the FB. So Lawton must be doing a better job blocking.
He’s also got about 30 more pounds on him than Russell does.
November 23rd, 2009 at 9:45 pm
16yearsold16yearfan:
and the most annoying thing is he was benched
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No, the most annoying thing is not using any punctuation.
Use a period. Use a comma.
Start a new paragraph.
It will make it a lot easier for people to understand your thoughts.
November 23rd, 2009 at 9:45 pm
16yearsold16yearfan…for whatever reason, Jamarcus (and possibly his agent) decided that they were only going to get 1 contract, or didn’t care about creating a legacy or a noteworthy career and held out for big up front bucks and, maybe unwittingly through disdain for football fans in general, a legacy of scorn.
Whatever it was, it is what is now…he’s benched, he has been shown up by a 3rd stringer on a team without depth at QB and he has to deal with that. Will he or won’t he….that’s his challenge now. Personally, I wouldn’t bet on him.
November 23rd, 2009 at 9:48 pm
16, great points. And it cracks me up that peple say Russell couldn’t have won that game when he won the Philly game.
Had they caught those passes especially the one to DHB Russell wouldn’t have been pulled. Cable said as much. But those drops on a young QB have a different affect than they do an experienced QB.
I don’t want to seem as though I’m excusing Russell’s behavior because to tell yoiu the truth it really bothers me expecially the leadership part. By he had a ton of help in all this mess. And the coaches know it. We should’ve lost that game and were very lucky to win. The defense played tremendous football and finally the offense cashed in. Simple as that.
Grads is a fiery competitor and I’m glad to have him we needed his energy and leadership. But talent is no where close, in time Russell will develope and that is what excites me.
November 23rd, 2009 at 9:49 pm
I hear the Morale in the building among the office people is terrible and the pay is low, benefits inconsistent.
November 23rd, 2009 at 9:50 pm
priest,
let me see here…
JR has never shown any intelligence in his comments nor has anyone ever vouched that he is a sharp guy. Check!
JR has never been accurate nor any scouts nor any teammates claiming as such. Check!
JR has never been a hardworker nor any teammates and coaches vouching as much. Check.
JR can’t audible cuz he doesnt know his playbook. Cable admitted as such. Gannon pointed it out. Steve Young pointed it out. Check.
JR has never shown any leadership quality for the positioin he plays. Nor has any teammate or coaches vouched for it. Check.
JR can throw a ball 75 yards. Check.
Ok bro, 1 out of 6. There’s the FRANCHISE FOR YOU.
What are you seeing that I am not seeing. Sorry but the whole world is blind except for you and a few other diehards on here.
P.S. I do hope JR can be successful. Right now he is a liability.
Good nite.
November 23rd, 2009 at 9:51 pm
I don’t think anybody has accused Al Davis of being classy, but he calls all the shots, but never stands behind his mistakes. Always blames others.
Cable is being set up right now.
November 23rd, 2009 at 9:54 pm
I don’t think anybody has ever accused Al Davis of being classy, but he calls all the shots, yet never stands up and take responsibility his mistakes. Always blames others.
Cable is being set up right now.
November 23rd, 2009 at 9:55 pm
northern d if you dont understand what im saying you dont have to read it and rdt if he wasnt working he should have been benched by week 4 dont wait until he has 8 passes dropped by recievers and his best wr gets healthy and how can you be mad at him for wanting his money almost every #1 pick gets a contract before the draft and all 3 qb’s drafted in the top 10 the last two years got a bigger contract than him and only one was picked #1
November 23rd, 2009 at 9:57 pm
Got told off by a 16 year old. Ouch.
November 23rd, 2009 at 10:04 pm
I don’t want to seem as though I’m excusing Russell’s behavior because to tell yoiu the truth it really bothers me expecially the leadership part. By he had a ton of help in all this mess. And the coaches know it. We should’ve lost that game and were very lucky to win. The defense played tremendous football and finally the offense cashed in. Simple as that.
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Priesttj…this is where you are wrong!
We won this game because the WHOLE team dug in and did what it took to stay in the game and capitalize on an opportunity to win it (when Cincy a good team right now didn’t) because they RESPECTED the QB because he did what a REAL QB does during the week and Jamarcus’s legacy is that he made the word “punctual” a QB trait now….nice work fella.
November 23rd, 2009 at 10:08 pm
priesttj Says:
November 23rd, 2009 at 9:48 pm
16, great points. And it cracks me up that peple say Russell couldn’t have won that game when he won the Philly game.
………
C,mon priest. Russell got 1 TD in that Philly game on 85 yard catch and run by Zach Miller in the FIRST quarter. 9 times out of 10 that pass play never gets close to a TD.
Russell didn’t make good consistent drives for TDs in that game.
I know Russell got the win that day, but don’t compare that game with what happened with Gradkowski yeasterday.
Russell completed 17 of 28 passes for 224 yards, with two interceptions and the touchdown to Miller. Without that one play Russell is 16 of 27 for 138 yards and 2 picks.
November 23rd, 2009 at 10:10 pm
hey 16-16
don’t try and tell me because he wasn’t benched soon enough…he can’t ever be benched, that’s bonehead logic.
Secondly, he held out for more…AND IS NOT WORTH IT!!! pay some back and i’m listening again.
Why are you so heavily invested in a guy who has done nothing but lose, be over-weight, show no character or leadership, get out-played by a journeyman, accept no responsibility, or do anything positive for your team?
I don’t think football is ruling your evaluation system.
November 23rd, 2009 at 10:15 pm
Al Davis is the DEFINITON of CLASS.
He is a hall of famer for a reason. He is the sole person responsible for joining the AFL and NFL and creating what we now know as the Super Bowl.
He continues to rule his domain as he sees fit.
When Jamarcus is enshrined in Canton, it will be Mr. Davis who will give his introduction speech.
You cannot judge a QB on whether he can read defenses or look-off receivers, the true litmus test is LEADERSHIP! Jamarcus has worked his butt off to be the leader of this scrappy group of Raiders, and one day it will be clearly evident. It is obvious all this talk of Jamarcus being lazy etc. is a conspiracy amongst some of the players. Mr. Davis will seek out and destroy those that caused this dissension, and they will pay dearly.
If you only knew what was going on in Mr. Davis’s head you would be standing and applauding the “Master”.
November 23rd, 2009 at 10:17 pm
Just saw the 1 handed catch by Dallas Clark yesterday.
AMAZING! You guys should check it out if you haven’t seen it.
November 23rd, 2009 at 10:19 pm
# djohnnyg Says:
November 23rd, 2009 at 10:15 pm
Al Davis is the DEFINITON of CLASS.
He is a hall of famer for a reason. He is the sole person responsible for joining the AFL and NFL and creating what we now know as the Super Bowl.
He continues to rule his domain as he sees fit.
When Jamarcus is enshrined in Canton, it will be Mr. Davis who will give his introduction speech.
You cannot judge a QB on whether he can read defenses or look-off receivers, the true litmus test is LEADERSHIP! Jamarcus has worked his butt off to be the leader of this scrappy group of Raiders, and one day it will be clearly evident. It is obvious all this talk of Jamarcus being lazy etc. is a conspiracy amongst some of the players. Mr. Davis will seek out and destroy those that caused this dissension, and they will pay dearly.
If you only knew what was going on in Mr. Davis’s head you would be standing and applauding the “Master”.
………….
wtf? no really… huh?
November 23rd, 2009 at 10:19 pm
Seems to be 3 kinds of Raider fans now.
Al Davis loyalists.
Jamarcus Russell loyalists.
And winning Raider football idealists ready to accept any football player who bleeds Silver and Black on Sunday and takes no prisoners!
Get out to the games and BOO what is wrong…CHEER for what is good…and POUND the crap out of any 49er fan or MR (redundant) who is dumb enough to show up!
GO RAIDERS….KICK DALLASS…or at least look good if you lose and make them sorry.
November 23rd, 2009 at 10:22 pm
Raider75 Says:
November 23rd, 2009 at 10:19 pm
# djohnnyg Says:
November 23rd, 2009 at 10:15 pm
Al Davis is the DEFINITON of CLASS.
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wtf? no really… huh?
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umm…ditto Raider75
November 23rd, 2009 at 10:24 pm
djohnnyg Says:
November 23rd, 2009 at 10:15 pm
You cannot judge a QB on whether he can read defenses or look-off receivers, the true litmus test is LEADERSHIP! Jamarcus has worked his butt off to be the leader of this scrappy group of Raiders, and one day it will be clearly evident. It is obvious all this talk of Jamarcus being lazy etc. is a conspiracy amongst some of the players.
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think I need an example……
November 23rd, 2009 at 10:24 pm
rdt all im saying is if pick somebody number 1 you should be ready to pay what he wants and i never said he should never be benched i said if he wasnt working bench him when you notice dont way until his best wr is healthy and he plays a pretty good game without all the drops i would have been fine if they benched him earlier or if they gave him a game with chaz starting and he was still bad the timing of it just didnt make sense if you see he wasnt working since august you wait until november to bench him and when his best wr is healthy
November 23rd, 2009 at 10:29 pm
and dont get me wrong im glad we won i and i hope grad and the rest of the team tear down the billion dollar stadium i was just stating my opinion on the russell benching
November 23rd, 2009 at 10:32 pm
16
I personally think Cable benched him when he did because he really needed to win that game against KC, it was a win-able (sp?) game and his future career was riding very heavily on that.
He doesn’t feel Jamarcus gives him the best chance to win, and neither do a lot of the players on this team.
Don’t know how many ways I can (or they can) tell you that, but it’s out there for everybody to see.
Jamarcus is not 100% percent committed to doing everything it takes for the Raiders to win football games.
November 23rd, 2009 at 10:36 pm
Gradkowski is not the MAN, he has a decent track-record and is a very successful athlete in his own right.
But Jamarcus has the benefit of a lot of the raw tools it takes to be very special. He has the potential to take us a lot farther than 95% of any QB that comes along.
But it means diddlely if he doesn’t change his approach to the game, if he even has an interest to do so.
He has shown nothing to indicate that he can or will do so.
November 23rd, 2009 at 10:38 pm
# raiderzmaverick Says:
November 23rd, 2009 at 7:54 pm
Guys – you keep talking about who we should draft in the 1st round….WE DON’T HAVE 1ST ROUND PICK THIS YEAR! We traded it….
I personally think that’s a GOOD THING. We normally draft descent in the later rounds and I think we have quite a few picks this year in those areas.
^^^^^^^
They traded away the 2011 1st round pick…..NOT the 2010 1st round pick…
The Raiders will have a top 5 pick next year most likely and will probably use it on USAIN BOLT!
November 23rd, 2009 at 10:38 pm
rdt i understand what you are saying but jamarcus didnt just become uncommitted if he wasnt committed for 9 weeks why wait for him to have what would have been a good game without 8 drops to bench him he should have benched him earlier when wasnt working and was playing bad
November 23rd, 2009 at 10:39 pm
219.
I wish I could give u an example, but I am unable to at this time.
When I saw the highlight of Caldwells fumble just now on ESPN, it was if Mr. Davis had leapt out of his sky box and knocked the ball loose himself. If you look closely you can almost see it…
Amazing!!!
November 23rd, 2009 at 10:44 pm
Until Jamarcus changes his ways, guys like Gradkowski, Frye, or even David Carr, will out-perform him and prove themselves more valuable. Especially in a dollar and cents evaluation.
We can’t afford anymore Jamarcus Russell’s, Darren McFadden’s, Darrius Heyward-Bey’s, or Tommy Kelly’s on our team. Cap year or no cap year, we need to invest in long-term assets like O-line and D-line and add complimentary players through the draft by scouting properly or trading picks for proven value.
November 23rd, 2009 at 10:50 pm
16
I already answered the issue of why he got benched now…it has come down to Cable’s self-preservation. He needs to win games, experimenting or “growing with Jamarcus” is no longer viable. He has to put some wins on the board this year, and it isn’t going to happen with Jamarcus.
You watch, DHB is next…his playing time will go down, and it should.
November 23rd, 2009 at 10:50 pm
I will be in Oakland tomorrow. Which one of you guys is picking me up at the airport? Hopefully it’s not Norco Bob.
November 23rd, 2009 at 10:52 pm
Random Drug Tester Says:
November 23rd, 2009 at 10:44 pm
Until Jamarcus changes his ways, guys like Gradkowski, Frye, or even David Carr, will out-perform him and prove themselves more valuable. Especially in a dollar and cents evaluation.
We can’t afford anymore Jamarcus Russell’s, Darren McFadden’s, Darrius Heyward-Bey’s, or Tommy Kelly’s on our team. Cap year or no cap year, we need to invest in long-term assets like O-line and D-line and add complimentary players through the draft by scouting properly or trading picks for proven value.
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That’s easier said than done. I suspect that the older Al gets, the more erractic the decisions he’ll make.
I think that a 60 year old Al Davis would have enough faculties to select the obvious choice of Crabtree over DHB.
Right now I think he’s desparately clinging to the idea of re-building the teams of the 60’s.
I hope at some point he relinquishes some of his duties and vision for the team to someone else. But I think he only trusts people who he doesn’t fear will take over. People like Cable, and not like Gruden.
November 23rd, 2009 at 10:52 pm
djohnnyg Says:
November 23rd, 2009 at 10:39 pm
219.
I wish I could give u an example, but I am unable to at this time.
When I saw the highlight of Caldwells fumble just now on ESPN, it was if Mr. Davis had leapt out of his sky box and knocked the ball loose himself. If you look closely you can almost see it…
Amazing!!!
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if that was anybody other than 1 of the 11 guys on the field, it was the seagull or the spirit of Marquis Cooper, if you want to believe in those sort of things.
November 23rd, 2009 at 10:56 pm
Northern D
I am painfully aware that Al is looking for the quick fix (40 time) or mythical Silver bullet. Time is running out, and so is his patience for doing things with the long-term in mind.
November 23rd, 2009 at 10:56 pm
More quick fix solutions. Like bringing in Seymour
November 23rd, 2009 at 10:58 pm
Raiders Grief Counselor Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
November 23rd, 2009 at 10:50 pm
I will be in Oakland tomorrow. Which one of you guys is picking me up at the airport? Hopefully it’s not Norco Bob.
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The Real MaddenRaider is free all day long having no job or girl-friend to take up his time.
He could probably pick you up if he can drive, and he is one person in most dire need of a Counsellor. IMHO
November 23rd, 2009 at 10:59 pm
I just hope that even he realizes things have gone down hill and he can’t fix them alone.
But I’m sure you’ve dealt with old people at some point, because some of them just get more and more stubborn in their ways.
November 23rd, 2009 at 11:46 pm
“It just worked out that way,” Bryant said. “I reached out to tackle him, I didn’t know if I was going to get him or not, but the ball came out, it was laying on the ground, I was looking at it and I thought to myself, `I ought to grab that.’ So I picked it up. It was pretty awesome to have that much of an impact.”
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Translation: “I Forrest Gumped my way into that one.”
November 23rd, 2009 at 11:56 pm
It’s that Ivy league education.
November 23rd, 2009 at 11:56 pm
Al Davis’s insistence on forcing Russell into a vertical offense has killed the case against Russell. If Russell was given an actual, modern day offense to work under (meaning, not a hybrid between a modern day offense and the dusty playbook Al drew up for Cotton Davidson), and still failed, then I’d be on board with all of you blaming Russell’s quarterback play for this season. Well, actually, I’d never blame anyone more than I blame Al Davis, because Al Davis is responsible for every single person employed by this football team. But I’d at least agree with all of you that Russell should be benched. But to give Russell the playbook we gave him, then sudden switch up to a conservative offense when Gradkowski’s thrown in there? Something is wrong with that picture. Russell was sabotaged. By whom, and for what? I don’t know. Was it Cable, who wants someone he feels gives him a better chance of winning as starter? Or, was it Al, who set Russell up to fail all along as revenge for the contract negotiations in ‘07, where Russell and his agent made Al look like a complete idiot (not hard to do anymore,btw)? Whatever the case, they did Russell wrong. And it’s just another chapter of the same soap opera that started when Davis refused to give Gruden a new contract. A horrible franchise, ran by a horrible owner, that deserves every bad thing it gets until that owner at least removes himself from football operations.
November 24th, 2009 at 12:22 am
Everything that’s wrong with the organization is Al’s fault. There’s no denying that. BUT, Russell wasn’t even that good at LSU. His former teammates are on record as saying they’re not surprised by his struggles because he never put in the extra work to be a good player.
The guy’s work ethic stinks. Bottom line. He was a bust no matter where he went.
November 24th, 2009 at 12:38 am
Crow, agreed on Russell’s marginal ability, and would add to that that Davis never should have drafted him. At that time, I didn’t believe we should take Russell or Quinn. But his marginal ability is all the more reason to put him into the safest offense possible. Instead, every other play he was given had all of his receivers downfield with one check down. All Russell should have been given is a run heavy offense, with pass plays designed to control the ball. You know…like the one we won with yesterday. I agree his work ethic sucks, and that he has an attitude problem. All the more reason to go with a safe offense in the so many games we started him after we knew of all of these negatives.
November 24th, 2009 at 12:51 am
Russell was sabotaged by someone. Either Al or Cable. Take your pick. I honestly don’t know. But I know he was sabotaged.
November 24th, 2009 at 1:24 am
Guys,
I’m going to say it because no one else will to either Priest or the real maddenraider here it is
JaMarcus Russel is dumb. He cant speak, I doubt he can read, and he has become attached to an inanimate object (the beanie). I want him to succeed because he is a first round pick, but just listen to the guy. He is a gigantic thug who cares more about his 500K earrings than being smart enough to be given more than 50% of our playbook. He can only read one side of the field, the world speculated it and Mike Brown the safety for the Chiefs confirmed it. He does not have the correct thought processes or demeanor to be an NFL quarterback, and the only way to fix those two things is to put in the time to change it and he wont. You shouldnt need a change in ownership or management to teach a man how to love the game of football. We were all tricked by that LSU team watching him throw the ball 60 yards off his back foot. But people, he was throwing jump balls to Dwayne Bowe on a team that was more athletic than any. Accept the bust, restructure his contract, and lets watch Bruce motivate this team as he should and make JaMarcus better himself
November 24th, 2009 at 1:47 am
Russell is dumb, but your even dumber a complete buffoon. Who has no idea what he’s talking about. Take your racist brain dead moronic comments look in the mirror and understand why they exist. Because of that stupid guy you’re looking at.
November 24th, 2009 at 4:01 am
When Jamarcus is enshrined in Canton, it will be Mr. Davis who will give his introduction speech.
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Wow!!! Someone took the Electric Acid Kool-Aid Test last night. I think I would rather take my chances on Jim Jones’ dose of reality, at least it IS reality!!!lol
November 24th, 2009 at 4:11 am
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
blitzing and luck. that’s all that happened today. neither will happen next week.
Cincy choked this one, gave it to us.
luck is luck.
A good team beat themselves. That’s all that happened today. That’s how it will be written, as well it should be.
The Raiders do NOT have a team, no matter who starts at QB, gradkowski or Russell.
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Wow, I think MR got the BAD acid!!!lol
November 24th, 2009 at 4:15 am
Good Morning NATION!!!
November 24th, 2009 at 4:18 am
Even on window-paine,I didnt have a far-fetched trip like that =)
November 24th, 2009 at 4:19 am
Peyote Buttons either =) Yo
November 24th, 2009 at 4:20 am
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November 24th, 2009 at 5:22 am
# priesttj Says:
November 24th, 2009 at 1:47 am
Russell is dumb, but your even dumber a complete buffoon. Who has no idea what he’s talking about. Take your racist brain dead moronic comments look in the mirror and understand why they exist. Because of that stupid guy you’re looking at.
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Priest, the truth is that it appears that Russell isn’t the smartest fish in the pond. I have not heard him in any interviews give insightful data or anything that indicates something was thought out. I see it on the field as well that he is a bit dull, and doesn’t seem to be able to view any errors made himself. He doesn’t understand when he’s throwing under 50% and has almost no yardage and a couple turnovers why he would be taken out of the game and feels he’s doing well.
I have heard from enough interviews that he has the ‘potential’ but needs to put the work in. Every interview indicates he needs to put more work in but he doesn’t. I haven’t heard ANY of the comments that Gradowsky gets about being in there, putting in extra time, making smart decisions. And these are teamates saying these things. While noone wanted to bust his chops that were on his team they hinted towards it. And you can see their response to Bruce G. being in the difference between the two players. AND Bruce is NOT even a middle-of-the-pack QB based on his past performances. He wouldn’t be starting on any other team in the NFL right now – even Cleveland, but he is considerably better than Russell in his performance.
QB requires more intelligence, and hard work than any position. You have to be able to read the defenses, see what everybody is doing, look at the different reads within a matter of milliseconds and based on what you see deduct the best thing to do.
And, even if he were able to do that, I see WAY too many horrible throws by him. Receivers don’t help him by dropping the balls. But he throws it more times than not in a place which makes it impossible or near impossible to catch it.
November 24th, 2009 at 5:40 am
That 1st pass to Chaz said it all,imo.Grads the Great (lol),put it where only Chaz could get it.T.V. showed all the angles on it,front,back,side.It was a perfect pass from a young QB that hasnt playede much in his brief career.BUT…that 1 pass showed the world what kind of QB he is.
When you have athelets as awesome as todays atheletes are,you need a QB that can think and react mentally a fraction of a second faster than said athletes.Grads the Great can do this,imo
Also he comes from the Cradle of QB’s in Pennsylviana…he’s just a natural complete QB,the entire package so 2 speak.Reminds me of Bob Griese…not in any way saying he can be THAT good but…you never know and he’s got a whole career ahead of him,here or not here,imo
November 24th, 2009 at 5:44 am
Oh and Vegas…
I put Grads the Great on both my FF teams WHOOO HOOO!!!
November 24th, 2009 at 5:46 am
Good Morning Nation, The Only Nation.
Now this is some funny stuff on the DisChargers i love it. Cause see my UPS driver is a die hard Charger fan, i know i didnt think they existed either, but hey who knew. Well enjoy.
To date the title for the most successful sports franchise in San Diego’s long history belongs to the San Diego Sockers. This storied franchise rocked the Major Indoor Soccer League with 10 titles.
A San Diego professional sports team has never won a Super Bowl, World Series, Stanley Cup or NBA Final. The drought dates back a combined 95 years without a championship. (Chargers 45, Padres 40, Clippers 5, Rockets 4). What’s the contributing factor to this monumental achievement in futility? Not one professional sports team from the great city of San Diego has a historical winning record.
In order to find San Diego’s last morsel of championship pie one would have to travel all the way back to 1963, when the San Diego Chargers won the AFL championship. To this day the Chargers remain the only AFC west team without a Superbowl victory, meanwhile their counterparts; the Raiders, Broncos and Chiefs have racked up six titles. San Diego has however be a most gracious Superbowl host. Each time San Diego has hosted a Superbowl a division rival has played in it.
Like any great city void of a championship, one would expect there be a great curse to blame; like that of Boston and the Bambino. Well in this category San Diego once again disappoints.
As lore would have it the curse of Lance Alworth is to blame for the city’s 0 for lifetime debacle. Many of you, my self included have probably wondered, who in the hell is Lance Alworth?
Originally drafted by the Oakland Raiders and traded to the San Diego Chargers he was an all star from 1963-1969. In 1971 the Chargers traded Alworth to the Dallas Cowboys only to watch him earn a ring in Superbowl VI. Alworth was the first San Diego Charger inducted to the NFL hall of fame. Alworth chose the great Al Davis as his presenter for the ceremony.
Since the trade San Diego teams have been Championship deprived. The Chargers guilty of executing the trade are the most maligned of San Diego’s teams.
Ryan Leaf considered the biggest “bust” in pro sports history was drafted only one pick after the great Peyton Manning. Having nearly tasted Manning glory the Chargers elected to draft Eli Manning in the 2004 draft. Apparently well aware of Lance Alworth, Eli demanded a trade and refused to play for the Chargers. Eli went on to win MVP honors and a ring in Superbowl XLII for the New York Giants.
The Padres haven’t faired much better in the draft; see Matt Bush for details.
The Chargers have only had one appearance in the Superbowl but in San Diego tradition, they choked and were routed by the 49ers 49-26. Boasting a .417 playoff winning percentage it’s doubtful the Chargers will ever make it back to the big game, let alone win it.
Despite this extraordinary display of ineptitude, Charger fans seem content with their role as perennial AFC West Bridesmaid. They find some refuge in minor victories such as division titles or their current 12 game win streak over the Oakland Raiders but the elephant in the room remains an empty Superbowl trophy case.
November 24th, 2009 at 5:47 am
I don’t understand why they handled JR so sheepishly. Why weren’t they kicking him in th A$$, fining him, have him do laps—anything to get him to step up and realize he’s screwed up. JR doesn’t think he did anything wrong! I don’t know any football coach that doesn’t call out a guy when he’s not doing what he’s supposed to do, why is this staff so wimpy with him?
November 24th, 2009 at 5:56 am
Like someone posted here…They gave Jmac just enough rope…
November 24th, 2009 at 5:56 am
Good Morning Nation!!!
Funny because the people in our section were saying to go for two. I’m glad Cable trotted SeaBass out there instead!
November 24th, 2009 at 6:05 am
r8dr4lfe21 Says:
November 24th, 2009 at 5:46 am
Good Morning Nation, The Only Nation
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Morning Nation, good to get a dose of truth, to go along with my coffee…
November 24th, 2009 at 6:05 am
Good story R8dr4lfe21. I forgot about Lance Alworth, let alone, did not know he was drafted by the Raiders. I thought Archie Manning instructed his son to not accept to play for SD. Was it because of the Alworth story? Interesting! Thanks!
November 24th, 2009 at 6:07 am
Pale Rider, my thoughts exactly. your guess is as good as mine. Al Davis? Well, supposedly, Mr. Davis made the final call to bench JaMarcus!
November 24th, 2009 at 6:07 am
John Hadl 2 Lance Alworth was a great combo.I also did not realize we drafted Alworth…wonder why we let him go???
November 24th, 2009 at 6:08 am
# 4evaRaider Says:
November 24th, 2009 at 5:56 am
Like someone posted here…They gave Jmac just enough rope…
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Nope – they gave Jmac TOO MUCH slack!
November 24th, 2009 at 6:09 am
4eva,
Spot on about Grads and QB’s having to think a split-second before these incredible athletes. No matter how strong your arm is, you can’t compensate for being a second late on your read and reaction.
Bruce is young and hasn’t had many starts, in fact less than half as Jamarcus. Yet, for whaterver, reason people on here want to act like the book is closed on him (journeyman, no arm, career backup), but not for Jamarcus.
I kind of weird double-standard.
November 24th, 2009 at 6:10 am
*A kind of weird double-standard*
COFFEE!!!!
November 24th, 2009 at 6:11 am
raiderzmaverick Says:
November 24th, 2009 at 6:08 am
# 4evaRaider Says:
November 24th, 2009 at 5:56 am
Like someone posted here…They gave Jmac just enough rope…
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Nope – they gave Jmac TOO MUCH slack!
Yup!!!
November 24th, 2009 at 6:12 am
Guys you can’t just push a guy to run laps and hope he gets it, he will be just doing what he is being told.
To be a leader and a motivated hard-worker, you have to be a self-motivator. This applies to all facets of life.
FORCING Jamarcus to run laps and do film study would just be delaying the inevitable.
November 24th, 2009 at 6:12 am
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
November 24th, 2009 at 12:51 am
Russell was sabotaged by someone. Either Al or Cable. Take your pick. I honestly don’t know. But I know he was sabotaged.
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Jerry, you need to do some value adds to your blog. One would be the most stupidest comment section, were you select from the plethora of quotes from some of your bloggers. The above quote from the semi professional blogger MR suggest that you have a gold mine of laughter and humor untapped waiting to be monetized.
Question MR, why would Mr. Davis sink 60+ million into a player, only to sabotage him??? You answer will be priceless i am sure….
November 24th, 2009 at 6:16 am
lmao!!!
November 24th, 2009 at 6:16 am
Sabotage..
Great Beastie Boys song
November 24th, 2009 at 6:17 am
60+ million ad the specter of not living up to expectations would scare a sensible person into doing all he or she can to be successful. BRL is flat out lazy, but the kicker with Black Leaf is, he thinks he is ok, must be a brain dead….
November 24th, 2009 at 6:19 am
or damn near die trying,imo =)
November 24th, 2009 at 6:21 am
Pale Rider Says:
November 24th, 2009 at 5:47 am
I don’t understand why they handled JR so sheepishly. Why weren’t they kicking him in th A$$, fining him, have him do laps—anything to get him to step up and realize he’s screwed up. JR doesn’t think he did anything wrong! I don’t know any football coach that doesn’t call out a guy when he’s not doing what he’s supposed to do, why is this staff so wimpy with him?
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Mr. Davis said it best himself, the players are more important than the coaches. I imagine that if a player has an issue, they by pass the coaching staff and report directly to Mr. Davis…
Coaches have zero power in this Regime, its all about Mr Davis, and his ego.
November 24th, 2009 at 6:22 am
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
November 24th, 2009 at 12:51 am
Russell was sabotaged by someone. Either Al or Cable. Take your pick. I honestly don’t know. But I know he was sabotaged.
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The only way he was sabotaged was that he was never held up to the same standards that other players were held to and was given a free walk.
Same thing that DHB is being given now. But seeing how Russell was given it for 2 years now I hope they come to their senses and not let DHB stink it up as a starter as long.
I think both maybe, possibly, somehow, someway (god the chances are small) can pull together and become good. But, they have to be shown that they are accountable for their actions and only be put in if they are the best player out there just like every other position.
November 24th, 2009 at 6:22 am
being fined 4 being overweight…sleeping at TEAM meetings…yep lots of sabotage around here…and we can all see who the perp is
November 24th, 2009 at 6:23 am
I think I just realized why our 1st round picks suck so bad. They’re not made to perform before being put in and are given a free pass because of their status. No other team is really doing that.
Other teams give them every opportunity to show they’re good enough but they don’t get put in and played unless they’re the best option on the team. We just put them in even if they suck so it teaches our players you don’t have to play good to remain a starter…and it teaches them they don’t need to really get better and will still get their pay check and play.
November 24th, 2009 at 6:24 am
Grads is playing better, first off he doesnt have to impress if he fails then no harm done. But if he even plays a lil better skies the limit. Now i know he takes blame for his mistakes but truthfully he is not being forced to throw to DHB not to mention he has been with Hackett longer then Jmac so he is kind of familiar with his playcalling slash coaching. I dont blame Jmac for the offense or the team. I do blame him for not being in shape or taking blame, but not for the teams win/loss record.
November 24th, 2009 at 6:24 am
LMAO @ Thec… Jerry, listen to post 266.
MR also gets his own category for most culturally insensitive troll persona. StrahanManNY is a legend.
November 24th, 2009 at 6:25 am
4eva, I imigine you are a sensible guy, you get paid 60+ million to play a sport we all grew up playing as a game. You are the face of a storied franchise with a recent history of losing. I would bet everything both yours, and mine that you would be in the best shape of your life, would limit to a very minimum your partying and you would be in the film room at home, and in the office. I would also imagine that you would hire a personal chef, that would cook based on dietary needs.
November 24th, 2009 at 6:26 am
Our later round picks have to earn their playing time unlike the 1st rounders so they work hard and end up being better than the earlier round picks with “more potential”
November 24th, 2009 at 6:27 am
I have more hope for DHB than Russell and Darren. Based solely on the fact it has been only 10 games, compared to 30 for Russell and 20+ for Darren.
Darren is the biggest disappointment. You see that swing pass he caught Sunday on the first drive. Had a LB in space one-on-one and got completely engulfed. Looked like Florida playing Florida Internaional, with Darren not being the Gator.
Meanwhile, a “speed” guy like Chris Johnson last night, who is smaller than McFadden, breaks tackle after tackle game in and game out. In one game Chris Johnson had 2 or 3 more impressive runs than Darren has had in his entire NFL career.
November 24th, 2009 at 6:29 am
Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
November 24th, 2009 at 6:24 am
MR also gets his own category for most culturally insensitive troll persona. StrahanManNY is a legend.
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I gets mine!!!!
November 24th, 2009 at 6:30 am
Bo Shem, Read the stuff MR posted, this guy is absolutely hilarious. Norco Bob was good for the blog with his one liners, but MR has everyone beat. yesterday I was conducting a training class, while i was giving an assessment i was reading some of this stuff, i had to leave the room as the students were wondering, what the Hell is so funny….
November 24th, 2009 at 6:32 am
raiderzmaverick Says:
November 24th, 2009 at 6:23 am
I think I just realized why our 1st round picks suck so bad. They’re not made to perform before being put in and are given a free pass because of their status. No other team is really doing that.
Other teams give them every opportunity to show they’re good enough but they don’t get put in and played unless they’re the best option on the team. We just put them in even if they suck so it teaches our players you don’t have to play good to remain a starter…and it teaches them they don’t need to really get better and will still get their pay check and play.
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This is the type of attitude that is needed in the front office. Mr. Davis and the culture he has created is not conducive for a winning football franchise…
November 24th, 2009 at 6:34 am
Let’s just hope that the same fire/desire that was shown on Sunday is there on Thursday. We haven’t played a Thanksgiving day game since 1970. I hope we show them that we belong back in the spotlight! I hope the team realizes that enough is enough already! My neighbor, who is a Cowboy fan came up to me yesterday and dam near gave me a hug for the Raiders playing good for a change. I asked him what would happen if the Raiders beats his team on Thursday and he told me that he would give me a bottle of Henn Dog to celebrate with me! hey, I’ll take it…to me, as long as the team is competitive and we don’t get blown out…I’ll be happy!
November 24th, 2009 at 6:36 am
All those above Thec…Everyone has money at this stage so 2 me it would be about the history of the “GAME” and my place in it.Could you just IMAGINE being Stabler,Montana,Griese,Bradshaw,Dawson!?!?!?!?!These guys ARE going down in the history books 2B talked about years from now like…Man that damn Lenny Dawson single-handedly beat us that year to go to the 1st S/B or any story we can tell our sons.Football is steeped in history and passion and 2 be able 2 be a part of that story…yes I would prolly be SICK WITH PRACTICE AND PREPERATION =)
November 24th, 2009 at 6:37 am
The Black Leaf, LMAO. I can hear Emeril now…
“Take some Ryan Leaf, season with southern essence, panfry until charred and BAM… blackened leaf. If your grocer doesn’t sell Ryan Leaf you can substitute walrus. Serve it with your best silver.”
November 24th, 2009 at 6:38 am
Vegas…I actually don’t watch too much football anymore, only the Raiders because I don’t have too much time these days to sit on the couch on Sundays (when the Raiders are not at home). But, I did turn on the game last night and watched Chris Johnson do some spectacular runs. This guy is not only quick, but smart. that last run he did when he broke a tackle, then cut back across the field and gained what?…another 10 – 15 yards after. Yeah, DMac would have fell on his arse…again and again!
November 24th, 2009 at 6:39 am
After their first loss I said the wheels were going to fall off…
http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news;_ylt=AjHrFilkmwB6C3uSpQmBFYFDubYF?slug=ms-morningrush112309&prov=yhoo&type=lgns
November 24th, 2009 at 6:39 am
“I hope we can just keep riding this tidal wave,” Murphy said.
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in other words, Murf wants to stick with Bruce Almighty
November 24th, 2009 at 6:40 am
4evaRaider Says:
November 24th, 2009 at 6:36 am
All those above Thec…Everyone has money at this stage so 2 me it would be about the history of the “GAME” and my place in it.Could you just IMAGINE being Stabler,
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Jerry you also need to add a great comments, or post section. the above illustrates such.
I grew up watching Stabler as a kid. I get pumped just talking about him. when he stepped on the field everyone knew we had a chance. The 76 Raiders WOW…Good point Bro…..
November 24th, 2009 at 6:42 am
Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
November 24th, 2009 at 6:37 am
The Black Leaf, LMAO. I can hear Emeril now…
“Take some Ryan Leaf, season with southern essence, panfry until charred and BAM… blackened leaf. If your grocer doesn’t sell Ryan Leaf you can substitute walrus. Serve it with your best silver.”
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then you have the real humor section featuring Bo Schem…… ROFLMAO…..
November 24th, 2009 at 6:44 am
Tony Romo is playing hurt and Dallas only scored 1 TD against the Redskins w/o Portis & Haynesworth.
BEAT DALLAS!
pass the turducken
November 24th, 2009 at 6:44 am
vegas raider Says:
November 24th, 2009 at 6:27 am
I have more hope for DHB than Russell and Darren. Based solely on the fact it has been only 10 games, compared to 30 for Russell and 20+ for Darren.
Darren is the biggest disappointment. You see that swing pass he caught Sunday on the first drive. Had a LB in space one-on-one and got completely engulfed. Looked like Florida playing Florida Internaional, with Darren not being the Gator.
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That “linebacker in space one on one” that “engulfed him” was Rey Mauluga who eats, sleeps and sh*ts blowing up that play.
Made me question why Cable would even call it in the first place.
Know what you mean though. McFadden falls down with the slightest provocation.
He ran hard and made some very nice pass blocks on SAunday, but man, for a guy taken that high? Wow, we need to see some dynamic game winning returns for the investment NOW.
November 24th, 2009 at 6:46 am
Rockstar…I was wondering if you fell of the earth!!!
November 24th, 2009 at 6:47 am
I got a little heat from the the semi professional blogger MR on calling jruss Black Ryan Leaf. Got accused of self hate….
Fox sports made the comparision on sunday morning, is Jruss a bigger bust than ryan leaf, I fell out of my seat… Its so obvious he is a braindead. NFL playbook no, wendys, menu yes…
November 24th, 2009 at 6:48 am
All that Gradkowski showed is that this team IS good enough to win with a guy who just barely manages the game.
Russell’s not even good enough to do that yet.
Given a little time and a better work ethich he’ll get there and with his physical gifts it might be worth the wait.
Don’t forget, the Bengals did everything humanly possible to give that game to the Raiders.
Dallas will be another matter butwhen motivated, this team and this D can play with anyone in the League and make them suffer.
November 24th, 2009 at 6:49 am
Thec…I could go on and on and on and on and on and on and on about Kenny The Snake!!!We was always in it.And I always considered Joe Montana the 2nd coming of Stabler…same QB different decade,imo
November 24th, 2009 at 6:50 am
Thec07…wait…
Wendy’s menu maybe too complicated. heck the 99 cent menu is too long! I say the In and Out menu…minus the secret menu!
November 24th, 2009 at 6:51 am
good morning AM crew!
its been a while. been busy lately. work work work
even now i have a meeting in 15 minutes. haha
glad we beat the Bungles.
why can we beat teams like Philly & Cincy and then lose to a crap team like the Chiefs and get blown out by average teams like the Jets & Texans? this team needs confidence and consistancy. hopefully Bruce have provide those things. obviously he’s not a long term solution, but if he can just do his part we have a shot at winning each week. he’s not gonna put this team on his back and carry us to 9-7, but I think that he can be a decent game manager like Kyle Orton, who only has 11 TD’s in 10 games and is throwing to Brandon Marshall! JaWalrus had to get yanked and I’m glad it happened eventually. Jeff Garcia would have this team in the playoffs …
November 24th, 2009 at 6:51 am
4eva, agreed…
November 24th, 2009 at 6:52 am
I agree 4eva! The difference in the 70’s and early 80’s was that when the fans walked in the stadium, they expected a WIN! Now, the fans, and I must say myself included, we are shocked when we do!
November 24th, 2009 at 6:53 am
Leaf had pretty much the same stats like Jamarcus has now (actually better).
Leaf had 50% completion percentage. 11 Touchdowns to 18 Interceptions averaging 171 yards per game. I don’t know if Jamarcus had any game with 171 yards this year….
So, those who thinking that they are making fun of Jamarcus by comparing him to Leaf….are actually being nice to him.
November 24th, 2009 at 6:54 am
Good Morning Rockstar! The newscasters have said that “only if Garcia was patient”…maybe!
November 24th, 2009 at 6:57 am
Jeff Garcia is sitting at home in Gilroy smelling the garlic instead of preparing a team to destroy Dallas on Thanksgiving. his choice
Graddy boy needs to protect the football. let the defense & running game take over. just complete the short passes. put the ball into the hands of the playmakers
November 24th, 2009 at 6:59 am
maverick: agreed in the Leaf to Russell comparison
Todd Marinovich was better than JaWalrus too. at least he can blame his NFL career on a drug problem
Russell is blaming Burger King for inventing the Angry Whopper
November 24th, 2009 at 7:00 am
meeting has begun. later gents
November 24th, 2009 at 7:04 am
Well hopefully that is now changing Hwnrdr!!!
Like I’ve stated Grads led the entire Div.1A QB’s in completion % his senior year at Toledo of all places.He’s a smart QB entering his 4th season.What I like most about him is if Jmac or any other QB wants 2 replace him they better pack their lunch and supper b/c Grads the Great is going 2 fight with every fibre of his being 2 keep the starting job.
November 24th, 2009 at 7:07 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
November 24th, 2009 at 6:51 am
…obviously he’s not a long term solution, but if he can just do his part we have a shot at winning each week. he’s not gonna put this team on his back and carry us to 9-7…
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And you KNOW who the longterm solution is!
November 24th, 2009 at 7:12 am
I think that our later round picks have to earn their playing time unlike the 1st rounders so they work hard and end up being better than the earlier round picks with “more potential”.
November 24th, 2009 at 7:14 am
# RaiderRockstar Says:
November 24th, 2009 at 6:59 am
maverick: agreed in the Leaf to Russell comparison
Todd Marinovich was better than JaWalrus too. at least he can blame his NFL career on a drug problem
Russell is blaming Burger King for inventing the Angry Whopper
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LMAO….and to make it worse, Leaf wasn’t even the 1st player drafted like Jamarcus is.
Immagine if we had an above-average passer starting this whole year and didn’t waste time with DHB until he earned playing time. I think we’d still be talking about play-off possibilities instead of just having hope that we might win a couple more.
November 24th, 2009 at 7:15 am
Hey Jerry! Can you give us an update on the reason Gradkowski is so much better this season?!
Yes, I am referring to intern Danny Southwick!! Dig it up! They don’t give Pulitzers for transcribing canned answers from the Alameda press room!
November 24th, 2009 at 7:18 am
If I was Cable I would keep sending Dmac out 4 short passes,maybe even a “fly” pattern sometimes…even against Rey-Rey.Show a differenr formation,anything…the thing being I want 2 isolate Dmac on any LB.Grads and the WR’s&Rb’s will get used 2 eachother and they all will benefit greatly,imo.I know the play-offs are out of the question but I want 2 be the greatest spoiler of all time if we cant make it.Hell put the team on your back Gradkowski and LET ER RIP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
November 24th, 2009 at 7:21 am
I agree with Rockstar, Bo…at the moment! Grads is a game manager that is right now smarter with his reads than Russell. However, the last time we had a game manager was…of course, no comparisons to what Gannon did, but, Gannon really wasn’t anyone until he signed here and became the leader of this team!
November 24th, 2009 at 7:22 am
In Marinovich’s rookie year as a rater he had a QB rating of over 100 and completed 57% of his passes. 2nd year was quite a bit worse completing 49.1% of his passes. He threw 8 TDs and 9 Ints. Considerably better than Jamarcus fared so far….
He averaged 247 Yards per game in his rookie year and 168.1 YPG between the 2 years. Has Jamarcus even had a 247 yard game (definitely hasn’t averaged it).?
Who else do you want to compare him to?
November 24th, 2009 at 7:26 am
raiderzmaverick Says:
November 24th, 2009 at 7:22 am
In Marinovich’s rookie year as a rater he had a QB rating of over 100 and completed 57% of his passes. 2nd year was quite a bit worse completing 49.1% of his passes. He threw 8 TDs and 9 Ints. Considerably better than Jamarcus fared so far….
He averaged 247 Yards per game in his rookie year and 168.1 YPG between the 2 years. Has Jamarcus even had a 247 yard game (definitely hasn’t averaged it).?
Who else do you want to compare him to?
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which one scored higher on the wunderlic?
JRUSS, or Box of Rocks???
Who has a better grasp of the playbook?
November 24th, 2009 at 7:27 am
Bring back Marc Trestman!
November 24th, 2009 at 7:28 am
Jamarcus compares to Walter in 06… ish.
November 24th, 2009 at 7:31 am
That’s not fair, Bo…Walter had no chance of succeeding behind that O-line! But, I get your reference…
November 24th, 2009 at 7:39 am
DHB will improve.He just needs 2 learn the moves a the LOS…With Grads arm not the strongest our WR’s need 2 catch the ball closer 2 the LOS 1st then they can work on the longer routes,imo.I couldnt believe the O-line afforded Grads the amount of time they did.Seeing that I would keep the plays somewhat similar 4 Dallas on a short week but incorporate a few longer passes.
Also if Romo isnt 100% we can take more chances.This game on Thanks Giving Day couldnt come at a more intriguing time,imo.By looking at the tape from the Bengals game Cable and Hackett must be salivating…if the O-line can come up with another game like this last one,other routes will be there.I’m sure Cable and Hackett see this.Yep a very intriguing game 4 the NATION,imo
November 24th, 2009 at 7:39 am
Russell got a 24 on the Wonderlic…but a couple of brain cells do not equal work ethic.
November 24th, 2009 at 7:39 am
Hwndr,
Henderson, Morris, Satele, Carlisle, Pears/Barnes, DHB, and Murphy.
I think the 06 comparison may actaully favor Walter. He had WAY better offensive personell.
Moss, Gallery, Grove, Langston, Booth, Jordan, Fargas.
November 24th, 2009 at 7:40 am
Morning Nation,
Notre Dame quarterback Jimmy Clausen was involved in a fight outside a South Bend bar early Sunday morning, according to a report Monday evening by WGN-AM’s David Kaplan.
Worldwide Leader’s Joe Schad also confirmed Clausen has a swollen eye, at minimum, after being “sucker-punched” outside a bar. If true, it follows Clausen’s citation for underage possession as a freshman and starring role in the ‘08 “Beer Olympics” to keep his career average for minor off-field incidents at one per season.
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We don’t need a party animal on the Raider’s. Sorry Dakota, he just blew it with me. He will be another Marinovich.
November 24th, 2009 at 7:40 am
hwnrdr Says:
November 24th, 2009 at 7:21 am
I agree with Rockstar, Bo…at the moment! Grads is a game manager that is right now smarter with his reads than Russell. However, the last time we had a game manager was…of course, no comparisons to what Gannon did, but, Gannon really wasn’t anyone until he signed here and became the leader of this team!
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Bruce’s first game as a starter was better than Gannon’s first start here.
I’m not saying, but I’m just saying
November 24th, 2009 at 7:43 am
4eva,
I don’t think we should really fool with the deep balls. DHB was never open down field, and a literally almost have a heart attack every time we go deep. Following the ball in the air until the WR comes into the screen is the most agonizing time of the game. It seems like an eternity, and there is NEVER a good payoff.
Stick with the WCO and get the ball in the playmakers hands dink and dunk style. Just get it to DMAC, DHB, or JLH on the short routes instead of Luke friggin Lawton like Terrapin was saying.
November 24th, 2009 at 7:43 am
Forget about the fact Clausen may be a party-animal, I would be concerned that his own fans want to punch him in the face.
November 24th, 2009 at 7:45 am
hwnrdr Says:
November 24th, 2009 at 7:21 am
I agree with Rockstar, Bo…at the moment! Grads is a game manager that is right now smarter with his reads than Russell. However, the last time we had a game manager was…of course, no comparisons to what Gannon did, but, Gannon really wasn’t anyone until he signed here and became the leader of this team!
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No, I remember Gannon was playing well for the Chiefs. They kept in Elvis Gerbac for some stupid reason (kinda of like our management not playing the best player) and so they let Gannon go to Free Agency. He actually had a really good season coming in off the bench for KC the year before we picked him up.
November 24th, 2009 at 7:46 am
I feel you Vegas, but Gannon has become the vocal leader of this team, and funny, I think he still is even though he pissed off Mr. Davis. If Grads can get there, we’ll be back!
November 24th, 2009 at 7:47 am
Party Animal?
Fans want to punch him in the face?
Don’t we already have that guy times 5 or 6 already?
November 24th, 2009 at 7:48 am
Jhill like I said the WR’s should catch the ball closer to the LOS first…then work on longer routes.It may take a long time ot may not but we still gonna have 2 air it out once in awhile 2 keep the D guessing,imo
November 24th, 2009 at 7:49 am
Russell is going to suprise you all and hire Gannon to be his personal mentor this offseason.
November 24th, 2009 at 7:50 am
We don’t have to play that stupid “try to throw it 7 yards out and fumble with the catch” to any other WR except DHB. Why play him. Keep him practicing it after practice every day until he can catch 10 in a row….then let him start.
November 24th, 2009 at 7:50 am
I hear ya 4eva …
Just makes me REALLY nervous!
November 24th, 2009 at 7:50 am
Ok Mav, he did play well the year before. I remember. But it wasn’t until he signed here, fought off adversity of being hated and took this team by the throaght that he became an MVP caliber type of player. He fit our system and heres hoping that Grads will be that way! Of course, that is my opinion.
November 24th, 2009 at 7:53 am
I vote 4eva for coach! Heck, what is Sanjai whatever doing?
November 24th, 2009 at 7:54 am
Grads is the only QB on the roster who actually fits our system. Frye and Russell are not WCO QBs. I think the plan was for Garcia and Gradkowski to be on the roster, not Frye.
November 24th, 2009 at 8:03 am
# hwnrdr Says:
November 24th, 2009 at 7:50 am
Ok Mav, he did play well the year before. I remember. But it wasn’t until he signed here, fought off adversity of being hated and took this team by the throaght that he became an MVP caliber type of player. He fit our system and heres hoping that Grads will be that way! Of course, that is my opinion.
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Totally true. He really came into his own when he started playing here. I remember a lot of Raiders fans were pissed he was starting at first. He really was better than I had even immagined when we picked him up and I thought he had potential. I would never have dreamed he would be as good as he turned out!
November 24th, 2009 at 8:08 am
#289
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I grew up watching Stabler as a kid. I get pumped just talking about him. when he stepped on the field everyone knew we had a chance. The 76 Raiders WOW…Good point Bro…..
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Even down 2 touchdowns with 5 minutes left in the game you still KNEW (between Stabler, Freddy B and the defense) the Raiders would win.
Listening to the game on Sunday— that fourth down play on the game tying drive– I was wishing for that same feeling. After the TD I was thinking — fumble the kick off and let SeaBass finish it right away.
I remember when the D was so good that the Raiders would win the coin toss in overtime and choose to kick,
knowing that the D would stop the other team and Stabler would go to work on a shorter field and win it.
November 24th, 2009 at 8:12 am
I was impressed last night by Vince Young. Took the year he was benched, worked out hard, studied the playbook and when he was called on, has seized the moment. Put a picture of him and J.R. next to each other and think what could have been.
November 24th, 2009 at 8:16 am
EXLA, I feel you but the diff is VY was and is in great shape. with black ryan Leaf, you get a sack of potatoes….Until he does it hiz fat a@@ gets rode hard.
November 24th, 2009 at 8:21 am
Stabler 76, Bro I feel you 100…. As a fan at the game, or watching it on the tube we all KNEW the “Snake” would pull it out.
76 Raiders 1 loss to the pats Sb victory.
That team IMHO was the best NFL team of all time.
November 24th, 2009 at 8:22 am
76 Raiders 1 loss to the pats, and a SB victory…
November 24th, 2009 at 8:26 am
For those who were wondering whether Romo might sit out this game…
Romo limited in practice but says he’ll play vs. Raiders
02:23 AM CST on Tuesday, November 24, 2009
By BILL NICHOLS / The Dallas Morning News
brnichols@dallasnews.com
IRVING – Cowboys quarterback Tony Romo was limited in practice Monday, but he expects to be fine for Thursday’s game against Oakland at Cowboys Stadium.
Romo was kneed in the back while tackling DeAngelo Hall after a first-quarter fumble in Sunday’s 7-6 victory over Washington. After completing 15 of 27 passes for 158 yards, Romo said he received an injection for the pain.
“We’ve had better Mondays, but it’s part of playing in the National Football League,” Romo said. “It’s slowly getting better, and by game day I should be good to go. It’s going to take a lot more than this to keep me out.”
November 24th, 2009 at 8:36 am
OOOH~~~~~~Stop It lamolol
November 24th, 2009 at 8:37 am
Jhill that makes sense…and I thought that was the reason Tui was on the roster.I thought he was the natural progression after Gannon
November 24th, 2009 at 8:40 am
# hwnrdr Says:
November 24th, 2009 at 7:53 am
I vote 4eva for coach! Heck, what is Sanjai whatever doing?
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I have no idea….not his job that’s for sure!
I was really supprised that last years WR Coach Lofton got canned when he was clearly a Davis pick from the Kiffin era.
November 24th, 2009 at 8:57 am
As to Clausen…Lol…you guys didn’t drink in College?
A fan punched him after he got done eating with family members and teammates…it wasn’t at a frat house or something.
We could sign Clausen tomorrow and he would perform better against the Cowboys that either Russell or Garbagekowski!
That being said, I hope the kid stays in school for his senior year.
November 24th, 2009 at 9:03 am
I agree if the kid partys so what…we havnt had angels play QB 4 us.A real footballer is part hell-raiser,imo.
Just NO junkies
November 24th, 2009 at 9:05 am
where is that fuggin idiot mrsbrown?
November 24th, 2009 at 9:07 am
asking a 16 yr old kid (allegedly) if priest tried to touch him in inappropriate places. what kind of sick shyt do you have going thru ur head brown? MAKE THE WORLD A BETTER PLACE. PUNCH MRS.BROWN IN THE FACE
November 24th, 2009 at 9:07 am
4evaRaider Says:
November 24th, 2009 at 9:03 am
I agree if the kid partys so what…we havnt had angels play QB 4 us.A real footballer is part hell-raiser,imo.
Just NO junkies
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That includes food junkies!
November 24th, 2009 at 9:14 am
thats a good one Exla!!!
November 24th, 2009 at 9:19 am
I say BOULDER-DASH Dakota!!! BOULDER-DASH!!!
Your boy Claussen has never led Div.1A in anything let alone a pro offense.I’d put my money on Grads the Great lol =)
November 24th, 2009 at 9:24 am
Yep sure would love 2 b!tch-slap the ‘boys from broke-back mountain.
November 24th, 2009 at 9:26 am
Dakota Says:
November 24th, 2009 at 8:57 am
As to Clausen…Lol…you guys didn’t drink in College?
A fan punched him after he got done eating with family members and teammates…it wasn’t at a frat house or something.
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AT 2:30 AM?!?! THATS PARTYING!
November 24th, 2009 at 9:28 am
any news on chaz? i imagine he’ll play. he was limping late on sunday. i hope he can go. i got some $$$$ on this game. stupid me i know
November 24th, 2009 at 9:31 am
morning all.
November 24th, 2009 at 9:31 am
unless of course he thought he was in a different time-zzone =)
November 24th, 2009 at 9:32 am
exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:
November 24th, 2009 at 8:12 am
I was impressed last night by Vince Young. Took the year he was benched, worked out hard, studied the playbook and when he was called on, has seized the moment. Put a picture of him and J.R. next to each other and think what could have been.
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bro, the key thing was that VY accepted his benching and had guys like Favre and Koby mentored him. Peter Kings wrote that Koby was in touch with VY often. The key thing for us is will JR accept this well and use his time wisely? Based on last Sunday it seems he took it well. I dont think JR is ever going to be a leader. He needs strong personalities around him on the O. It looked as though JR was more relieved to not be in that role.
November 24th, 2009 at 9:35 am
new englandraider Says:
November 24th, 2009 at 9:07 am
asking a 16 yr old kid (allegedly) if priest tried to touch him in inappropriate places. what kind of sick shyt do you have going thru ur head brown? MAKE THE WORLD A BETTER PLACE. PUNCH MRS.BROWN IN THE FACE
It wouldn’t surprise
me 
one bit if bhp 
(we all know what those initials stand for) 
did try 
November 24th, 2009 at 9:36 am
Morning Neilb!!!…
DeMarcus Ware… that will be Henderson’s man I believe.Play-action away from Ware and some draws right at him…Man I cant wait to see the game-plan this week!!!
November 24th, 2009 at 9:38 am
Dakotex,
“As to Clausen…Lol…you guys didn’t drink in College?”
Yes I drank in college but I was not so stupid to be in those situations and get my a$$ knocked out. Stupid things happen because of stupid decisions made by stupid people.
It’s that simple. Get it?
November 24th, 2009 at 9:41 am
Morning 4eva…
Looking forward to the Dallas game,they’ve got it on Sky over here at about 9pm.First Raider game I’ll see this year on a large screen!
November 24th, 2009 at 9:42 am
EEEEEEEEEEE
FUGGINNNNNNNNNNNN
HAWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW
Neilb…ENJOY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
November 24th, 2009 at 9:44 am
I wiil 4eva,I just hope last Sunday wasn’t a fluke.
November 24th, 2009 at 9:45 am
this is way tooooo funnnyyyy….it applies to DHB….if someone can put it together….
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZYSxJgjjJFc
November 24th, 2009 at 9:45 am
Neilb…
If thats the 1st time this year…
You should open up a Ye Ole Tavern that shows all nfl games…you could make a killing,not 2 mention NCAA Football
November 24th, 2009 at 9:48 am
Not a good idea 4eva.Pubs over here,because of the smoking ban,are closing down all the time.
November 24th, 2009 at 9:49 am
Thank gawd ted gin jr. is a fin
November 24th, 2009 at 9:49 am
oops I mean a phin
November 24th, 2009 at 9:50 am
……that and the fact you can go to a supermarket and buy 4 cans for the price of a pint in a pub.
November 24th, 2009 at 9:56 am
Neilb…thats what they thought would happen over here 2 but the smoking ban brought out an entire class of people,those that dont smoke lol.And a business then would offer an open-aire type thing 4 those that smoke…this way you can go out 4 a smoke and with your drink and “mingle” =)
November 24th, 2009 at 9:57 am
oh well I’m sure you know better as you LIVE there and I dont lol
November 24th, 2009 at 10:02 am
What ever the reason lots of pubs have closed down.
Open air !!?? In the north east of England !!
November 24th, 2009 at 10:03 am
little wet huh???
November 24th, 2009 at 10:05 am
it could be a REAL novelty
November 24th, 2009 at 10:10 am
Southwick for GM!
November 24th, 2009 at 10:11 am
Cold and wet…….My natural colour is pale blue,I’ve got to out in the sun for a week before I turn white!!
November 24th, 2009 at 10:12 am
lmao!!!!
November 24th, 2009 at 10:12 am
Millen for GM!
November 24th, 2009 at 10:18 am
He The Real Raider Monkey whats your new alias dip chit, we got you figured out here retard.
November 24th, 2009 at 10:18 am
Neilb…you gonna wear your Moss jersey???
November 24th, 2009 at 10:18 am
Enjoy your Tuesday 4eva
back tomorrow hopefully…
November 24th, 2009 at 10:20 am
aig Says:
November 24th, 2009 at 9:38 am
Dakotex,
“As to Clausen…Lol…you guys didn’t drink in College?”
Yes I drank in college but I was not so stupid to be in those situations and get my a$$ knocked out. Stupid things happen because of stupid decisions made by stupid people.
It’s that simple. Get it?
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“The Notre Dame quarterback was out at a South Bend, Indiana bar when, according to the Chicago Tribune, an irate fan started beef with Clausen. The man allegedly pushed Clausen’s girlfriend outside of CJ’s Pub, according to an anonymous source who spoke to the South Bend Tribune. When Clausen pushed the man back, the man punched him in the face. Clausen reportedly had a black eye, according to the Tribune’s source.
No charges were pressed, as no police reports were filed this weekend that involve Clausen.”
So Clausen’s girlfriend was pushed, and he pushed the guy that did it in defense of his girl. What a bastard! We can’t have that kind of person on our team! We like the wife-beaters, not the girlfriend defenders around these parts!
Morons
November 24th, 2009 at 10:21 am
I only wear it when I’ve done something wrong 4eva….as a punishment kinda thing.
November 24th, 2009 at 10:21 am
Got to go
later…..
November 24th, 2009 at 10:21 am
Dakota eat chit your next on my list
November 24th, 2009 at 10:24 am
Canadian Raider Says:
November 24th, 2009 at 10:21 am
Dakota eat chit your next on my list
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Oooooo so scary! lol
November 24th, 2009 at 10:24 am
c-ya Neilb…
November 24th, 2009 at 10:25 am
4evaRaider Says:
November 24th, 2009 at 9:49 am
Thank gawd ted gin jr. is a fin
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we have our own DHB !!!!!!
at least ginn returns an ocassional kick for a TD
November 24th, 2009 at 10:25 am
I wonder what side of beef they were fighting over???
WHAT????
OHHH!!!
November 24th, 2009 at 10:26 am
Listen Dakota Fanning your on the wrong site retard go with your girl friend The Real Madden Monkey to his new website, Iamaidiot.com
November 24th, 2009 at 10:27 am
I’d rather take my chances’ wid DHB thank-you very much =)
November 24th, 2009 at 10:31 am
Canadian Raider Says:
November 24th, 2009 at 10:26 am
Listen Dakota Fanning your on the wrong site retard go with your girl friend The Real Madden Monkey to his new website, Iamaidiot.com
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Lol, I see I don’t have much to worry about with you. How are you doing this time around in 3rd grade? Aren’t you supposed to be at recess right now and not on your teacher’s computer?
November 24th, 2009 at 10:33 am
Good come back Dakota Fanning, you should really try to keep your mouth shut it smells like chit in here.
November 24th, 2009 at 10:36 am
Canadian Raider Says:
November 24th, 2009 at 10:33 am
Good come back Dakota Fanning, you should really try to keep your mouth shut it smells like chit in here.
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How original…I think you posted that same thing yesterday with another commentator.
I guess that limitation is what held you back in 3rd grade again. Keep at it little guy, I know you can get through elementary school!
November 24th, 2009 at 10:36 am
Dakota Fanning, just so I undestand who Iam talking to are you a man, woman or hermaphodite. I need to know how to address you
November 24th, 2009 at 10:37 am
Sorry Dakota Fanning I didnt know that someone else already accused you of chit breath.
November 24th, 2009 at 10:39 am
zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
Can’t you come up with anything of substance little guy?
November 24th, 2009 at 10:39 am
I read it was 2:30AM Dakota…and since when is a girlfriend “family”?
November 24th, 2009 at 10:41 am
At least hit me in the face with the McFadden pick or something…
Maybe defend Tom Cable?
Maybe defend Al Davis?
Come on little guy, I am giving you one more chance!
November 24th, 2009 at 10:42 am
“The paper said WGN radio reported the incident took place around 2:30 a.m.” -USA Today
November 24th, 2009 at 10:42 am
since when is a girlfriend “family”?
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Arkansas & South Dakota
November 24th, 2009 at 10:42 am
Listening to your comments Dakota Fanning is depressing but I see theres no vaccine for stupidity.
November 24th, 2009 at 10:43 am
Dakota:
McFelldown is a bust!
Cable has reduced the penalties and cut the scumbags!
Al Davis should be in the HOF twice!
You were referring to me, right?!
November 24th, 2009 at 10:44 am
You know Dakota Fanning I would like see things from your point of view but its difficult, how do you get your head so far up your ass.
November 24th, 2009 at 10:44 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
November 24th, 2009 at 10:42 am
since when is a girlfriend “family”?
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Arkansas & South Dakota
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I get it. The Catholic editor switched cousin to girlfriend.
November 24th, 2009 at 10:44 am
“The newspaper also reported that the name of the bar was CJ’s and that a bartender at the establishment said that Clausen had been there with family members and other Irish upperclassmen after Notre Dame’s loss to Connecticut on Senior Day.”
Just reading what is being reported Bo.
Haven’t you ever gone to dinner and stayed for drinks with your family Bo? Do you come from a clan of teetotalers?
November 24th, 2009 at 10:45 am
KoolKell
This is what I was talking about yesterday:
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2009/11/23/buzz-building-for-holmgren-to-seahawks/
November 24th, 2009 at 10:46 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
November 24th, 2009 at 10:42 am
since when is a girlfriend “family”?
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Arkansas & South Dakota
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In Arkansas, when you get a divorce, the ex-wife reverts to being your 1st cousin or sister.
November 24th, 2009 at 10:46 am
Dakotex,
Wow…didnt know you were so high and mighty…Wife beaters…stupid Al….well, You’re a Lakers fan right….
The same team that carries the same superstar that SETTLED A RAPE LAWSUIT!!!!
real high and mighty there Dakotex. Real nice..(sarcasm)
November 24th, 2009 at 10:47 am
Haven’t you ever gone to dinner and stayed for drinks with your family Bo? Do you come from a clan of teetotalers?
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Not until 2:30.
You made it sound like he was assaulted walking Grandma to church.
November 24th, 2009 at 10:47 am
GO LAKERS!
November 24th, 2009 at 10:47 am
Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
November 24th, 2009 at 10:47 am
Haven’t you ever gone to dinner and stayed for drinks with your family Bo? Do you come from a clan of teetotalers?
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Not until 2:30.
You made it sound like he was assaulted walking Grandma to church.”
LMAO
You know what they say, nothing good ever happens after 2 am.
November 24th, 2009 at 10:48 am
Dakota,
How do you keep getting add ons to your fan club? LMFAO
November 24th, 2009 at 10:48 am
See Canadian Flea, at least Bo has some arguments. Learn from him little man, and then come back at me in 10 years when you have a shot.
Wasn’t that the bell? You better get back to your subtraction lesson!
November 24th, 2009 at 10:48 am
Maybe his real name is “Clausino” and they were really “familia”?
November 24th, 2009 at 10:49 am
Dakota
Did you see my story yesterday about the hat?
November 24th, 2009 at 10:49 am
LMMFAO ROCKSTAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
November 24th, 2009 at 10:51 am
Dakota Fanning are you out of your mind trying to challenge me. Your a whinning little girl hiding behind your computer, I would knock you out with 1 shot and then chit on you
November 24th, 2009 at 10:52 am
Grandma Church’s bistro it was
November 24th, 2009 at 10:52 am
Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
November 24th, 2009 at 10:47 am
Haven’t you ever gone to dinner and stayed for drinks with your family Bo? Do you come from a clan of teetotalers?
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Not until 2:30.
You made it sound like he was assaulted walking Grandma to church.
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Is this what it has come to? A young man of legal age can’t go out and have a few drinks with his family, friends and teammates to lament a poor season after another tough loss and then defend his girlfriend from a drunken irate fan?
I’ll bet had the QB wore maze and blue Bo would be calling the guy a saint lol.
November 24th, 2009 at 10:53 am
Dakota Says:
November 24th, 2009 at 10:20 am
So Clausen’s girlfriend was pushed, and he pushed the guy that did it in defense of his girl. What a bastard! We can’t have that kind of person on our team! We like the wife-beaters, not the girlfriend defenders around these parts!
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Dakotex,
We’ve all been bullied by one idiot or 2 in our lives. It’s how we respond to it you idiot.
I’ve driven down roads with thugs trying to throw bottles at my car. I’ve walked down the road with my wife and gf’s with guys making comments….the thing is I tell them we
best stay clear of them. They dont talk our language, have our values, nor live in our world…..Only idiots try to challenge other idiots.
It’s how you respond to idiots that makes you an idiot or not.
November 24th, 2009 at 10:53 am
McFelldown shuold actually be better in the NFL than college. At least in the pros, you can get up after falling down untouched.
Nevermind, you have to hold on to the ball to do that.
November 24th, 2009 at 10:54 am
Yep…been there myseff
November 24th, 2009 at 10:55 am
I missed it Dogg, direct me to it and I will take a look.
November 24th, 2009 at 10:55 am
I’ll bet had the QB wore maze and blue Bo would be calling the guy a saint lol.
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Grbac, Collins, Brady, Griese and Henne distribute shiners. Domers collect.
November 24th, 2009 at 10:56 am
aig Says:
November 24th, 2009 at 10:53 am
Dakota Says:
November 24th, 2009 at 10:20 am
So Clausen’s girlfriend was pushed, and he pushed the guy that did it in defense of his girl. What a bastard! We can’t have that kind of person on our team! We like the wife-beaters, not the girlfriend defenders around these parts!
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Dakotex,
We’ve all been bullied by one idiot or 2 in our lives. It’s how we respond to it you idiot.
I’ve driven down roads with thugs trying to throw bottles at my car. I’ve walked down the road with my wife and gf’s with guys making comments….the thing is I tell them we
best stay clear of them. They dont talk our language, have our values, nor live in our world…..Only idiots try to challenge other idiots.
It’s how you respond to idiots that makes you an idiot or not.
_______________________
Shhhhh AlisGod, you don’t have to prove to us you are a puzzy, lol, we already knew that!
November 24th, 2009 at 10:57 am
Except for Harbaugh. He’s a borderline wuss. Thus he has to coach in the Pac 10.
November 24th, 2009 at 10:58 am
Good comment AIG I should used your advice when a Raider Fan came into the bar where we were watching the KC game and started bashing every Raiders player. I could not help it and punched his lights out. I hate Raider Fans who always bash their team, once in awhile its okay to be pissed but on this site you have 2 or 3 idiots that do it every week even when they win and hide behind there computer. Pussies
November 24th, 2009 at 10:58 am
you need directions to Grandma Church’s Bistro Dakota???
What???
D’OH!!!
November 24th, 2009 at 11:01 am
Dakota
Long story short, the hat was thrown into a fire last week in the coliseum parking lot, and it was very redeeming. I had taken far too much abuse up to that point, every half time that I had to sneakily put that fukkin hat on. Nobody seemed to see the honor in honoring our bet. The opportunity arose and I was convinced to throw it in the fire at the tailgate before the Chiefs game.
I gained instant validation when about 15 minutes later I had the opportunity to meet and chat with Jim Plunkett. What a nice guy.
I’ll tell you this, that hat smelled soooo bad while it burned. The combination of toxic fumes and Buc hatred.
I apologize, I tried to make it all year, but I feel like I held up my end of the bargain just in all of the abuse that I took.
November 24th, 2009 at 11:02 am
Canadian Raider Says:
November 24th, 2009 at 10:58 am
Good comment AIG I should used your advice when a Raider Fan came into the bar where we were watching the KC game and started bashing every Raiders player. I could not help it and punched his lights out. I hate Raider Fans who always bash their team, once in awhile its okay to be pissed but on this site you have 2 or 3 idiots that do it every week even when they win and hide behind there computer. Pussies
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Funny how silent these tough guys are during the 10 weeks or so the Raiders lose every year. They slink away after every embarrassing loss and then show up to pound their chests when we get our one win every four games or so…
…must be tough to stand up with such weak spines.
November 24th, 2009 at 11:03 am
Dakotex,
You’re right. Your boy Clausen is so manly. He ended up with 2 blackeyes and the possibility of losing a few millions due to possibly being lost a few spots on the draft for having a fight in his background. That was worth it no? I mean he did become someone’s biatch for having 2 blackeyes while losing a few millions. Wonder what would happen if he’d just walk away? Real tough huh?
Oh btw, I dare you to come to memphis, Tn and act rough around the ghetto here. They shoot a few rounds off once a week in Midtown Memphis. I dare you. Since you so tough and all.
You’re right and you’re a tough guy HIDING BEHIND A KEYBOARD may I add.
November 24th, 2009 at 11:04 am
Mike Holmgren IS LOOKING FOR WORK, knock, knock, hello!!!!!!!
November 24th, 2009 at 11:05 am
LMAO Dogg!
I understand, lol. To have made it that long makes me very proud of you.
And burning that hat is very appropriate.
November 24th, 2009 at 11:06 am
Dakotex,
There’s nothing wrong with being a loyal Raider fan and celebrating the win from last week….no one is pouncing their chest for going to the SB this year.
Wow, now that is an interesting concept to you TRUE RAIDER FANS (Dakotex and Mrs. Raider)
oh btw, how about that Rape Settlement for your Laker Star? You being a righteous man of bravado and all?
November 24th, 2009 at 11:07 am
…must be tough to stand up with such weak spines.
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Research shows that bone density is directly related to the amount of pounding a person takes through hard exercise (or abuse).
So, as a Cubs fan you are inordinately “prepared” to remain tall during a horrendous losing streak.
November 24th, 2009 at 11:08 am
Dakota
Honestly I was a little hesitant to tell you, a part of me felt bad. A really small part that I usually can ignore.
November 24th, 2009 at 11:09 am
KoolKell Says:
November 24th, 2009 at 11:04 am
Mike Holmgren IS LOOKING FOR WORK, knock, knock, hello!!!!!!!
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Speaking of unemployment, has your license been revoked yet Mr. Mortgage Pimp?
November 24th, 2009 at 11:09 am
Was Kobe Bryant convicted of rape? Do you seriously thing Kobe Bryant has to rape women to get off?
lmao
November 24th, 2009 at 11:10 am
Al, hand Holmgren the keys to the ford and back away slowly.
let him hire some quality coaches and draft some quality football players
November 24th, 2009 at 11:11 am
Can someone create DHB drops on Snoop Dogg beat like this one
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZYSxJgjjJFc
November 24th, 2009 at 11:11 am
RaiderDogg Says:
November 24th, 2009 at 11:08 am
Dakota
Honestly I was a little hesitant to tell you, a part of me felt bad. A really small part that I usually can ignore.
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Hey, honesty always win right Dogg? Any other bets you would like to make?
When do the Lakers and W’s play?
November 24th, 2009 at 11:15 am
aig Says:
November 24th, 2009 at 11:06 am
Dakotex,
There’s nothing wrong with being a loyal Raider fan and celebrating the win from last week….no one is pouncing their chest for going to the SB this year.
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Celebrating a win is fine. Viewing the team through short-sighted rose colored glasses after every win is not. I express my views on how the team looks now and for the future. I don’t think we are good now, nor are we ready to even be mediocre next year with this coach.
Just my opinion and I express it. If you don’t like it tough schit.
November 24th, 2009 at 11:15 am
Dakota
I have already lost 2 bets to you, it will have to be something I am more confident in. When do the W’s and the Lakers play again?
November 24th, 2009 at 11:16 am
Dakotex,
What I do know is that Koby settled a Rape Lawsuit! Was Cable ever convicted of battery? NO but he settled it yet you get high and mighty about him being a wife beater. But hey, so long as Koby is scoring, it’s all cool with you.
Sorry but when someone accuses you of rape and you didnt do it, you FCKING TAKE A STAND. That’s a whole lot braver than trying to stand up to idiots at a corner.
I know you’re an idiot for a long time now on here. Please stop backign up my assumption.
November 24th, 2009 at 11:17 am
Priest,
I hope your not serious….racist? haha when did I ever say anything about race? I’ve gotten a real good laugh looking at all of your posts, between you and the real madden raider i am seeing our new general manager of the future and a very complicated three way relationship with JaMarcus Russel. Your not a fan if you don’t like the team. You know nothing about football and you sound like an angry weekend warrior. So don’t try to hide your ignorance by pulling the race card. Get over yourself, your the laughingstock of a comment thread.
p.s. im black : )
November 24th, 2009 at 11:18 am
Dogg, looks like they play this coming Saturday at the W’s.
But I understand about avoiding that bet…come up with something and I’ll let you know.
November 24th, 2009 at 11:19 am
New PFT Power Ranking for Raiders:
21. Oakland Raiders (3-7) (Last week: 28). The Polish Cannon and the Polish Pistol combined to make the Bengals look like they consist exclusively of folks from a certain Eastern European country whose natives somehow acquired a reputation for not being very smart.
November 24th, 2009 at 11:19 am
Allen Iverson to the Kings. BAM!
instant contender
November 24th, 2009 at 11:20 am
Hey Dakotex,
I’m betting you thought OJ was innocent too…considering he was never convicted and all you know….just a thought…moron.
November 24th, 2009 at 11:20 am
later gents. back to work
carpe diem!
November 24th, 2009 at 11:21 am
RaiderRockstar
Where did u hear that?
November 24th, 2009 at 11:22 am
There no room for racists on this site or any other they are next on the list. The Real Monkey Raider or any other racists should kill yourselves right now you are the big problem in every country.
ps
Iam white
November 24th, 2009 at 11:23 am
If I was Kobe, I would not take the stand either. I would have followed the advice of my attorney. That advice was not to be a fool and try to defend myself in a kangaroo court.
November 24th, 2009 at 11:23 am
Dakota Says:
November 24th, 2009 at 11:18 am
Dogg, looks like they play this coming Saturday at the W’s.
But I understand about avoiding that bet…come up with something and I’ll let you know.”
Now that Jackson is gone to a contender(smiling) the W’s have been coming together more as a team. Not quite ready to put anything on them though.
How about a bet regarding the next coach of the Bills? Wait, I lost the last bet on a coaching job.
We will have to wait to see what arises…
November 24th, 2009 at 11:23 am
Da Kotex,
Dakota Says:
November 24th, 2009 at 11:15 am
Viewing the team through short-sighted rose colored glasses after every win is not. Just my opinion and I express it. If you don’t like it tough schit.
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Rose colored glasses? I mean the fact that you bash Cable for settling a domestic dispute yet you let Koby Bryant off for settling a Rape Lawsuit.
I’m sorry which colored glasses are you referring to?
Punked again. Please stfu already.
November 24th, 2009 at 11:25 am
Yes, O.J. was acquited legally. He is currently looking for the murderer in the Penal System. Clever getting busted to follow the leads.
November 24th, 2009 at 11:30 am
Alisgod,
Kobe did take a stand. He stood up on live TV and announce he cheated on his wife but didn’t rape anyone. Then he hired defense counsel that demonstrated to the prosecutor that the woman had zero credibility and had sperm remnants in her panties from the entire Colorado National Guard AND the Denver Nuggets!
The criminal case was DISMISSED after the lying woman was discredited got what she wanted…a little money.
Welcome to the American system of jurisprudence.
Tom Cable is an ADMITTED wife-beater.
November 24th, 2009 at 11:31 am
Yow Canadian Raider
please dont call any black man monkey, that derogatory term, I am black and I feel you disrespecting all blacks when you call anyone else monkey. Either take the high road or diss him the way he disses you. Keep it real if you not a racist.
November 24th, 2009 at 11:32 am
Barcelona vs Inter a nice game
Hey Raiderdogg where did you hear A.I is going to the kings?
November 24th, 2009 at 11:34 am
http://rawstory.com/2009/11/palin-2012-disaster-movie/
November 24th, 2009 at 11:34 am
AIG,
By the way, OJ was found to be responsible for the death of his ex and that guy…in civil court. So what is your point?
Cable admitted to being a wife beater to the entire world…or didn’t you catch that little story?
November 24th, 2009 at 11:35 am
I didnt know Ohio was in Eastern Europe
November 24th, 2009 at 11:40 am
TrueRaider Says:
November 24th, 2009 at 11:31 am
Yow Canadian Raider
please dont call any black man monkey, that derogatory term, I am black and I feel you disrespecting all blacks when you call anyone else monkey. Either take the high road or diss him the way he disses you. Keep it real if you not a racist.
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Ignorant little Canadian flea doesn’t understand what racism is…he is currently repeating 3rd grade. Alternative school and short busses are in his future, so don’t take what he has to say to heart.
November 24th, 2009 at 11:43 am
“The Polish Cannon and the Polish Pistol” LMFAO!
I bet we have not been higher than #21 in the Power Rankings since 2003.
Go Cable! Keep up the good work!
November 24th, 2009 at 11:49 am
After reading the non sense in this thread it amazes me the amount of morons who actually think Al Davis has been doing a GOOD job the last 7 years with his lousy coaching decisions and lousy personnel decisions.
TRUE Raider fans knows what needs to happen to this organization to turn the ship around.
November 24th, 2009 at 11:52 am
TrueRaider Says:
November 24th, 2009 at 11:32 am
Barcelona vs Inter a nice game
Hey Raiderdogg where did you hear A.I is going to the kings?”
It was Rockstar who mentioned that about A.I.
I have a hard time believing that A.I. would be content in Sacramento, but you never know.
November 24th, 2009 at 11:53 am
New topic.
Would you trade McFelldown for:
A) The rights to Oren O’Neal
B) The rights to Todd Marinovich
C) The NFL rights to Allen Iverson
D) The rights to Tony Mandarich
E) The copyright to the phrase “Oh, Snap!”
November 24th, 2009 at 11:55 am
La Kotex,
your boywonder Koby Bryant, an accused Rapist who was rich enough to buy people off, settled in a CIVIL SUIT. If he was man enough, he would dare challenged her in the Civil Suit.
You see Big Ben. Yeah last that I checked he sued the accuser and willing to take it all the way. I guess big Ben could have “settled” it too.
So for all your bashing of Cable and highty Mighty Morals…sorry but settling a “civil” case of rape is not a sign of innocence.
ExLAseasonticketholder, my point is Koby didnt have to worry about being in a Kangaroo Court for criminal charges. All he had to worry about was his reputation in Civil Court, and he paid her off. He could have done what Big Ben did but nope he didnt. The only reason why he is not roasted is because he score points. If it was JR, then you all would have roasted him too.
November 24th, 2009 at 11:59 am
RaiderDogg Says:
November 24th, 2009 at 10:45 am
KoolKell
This is what I was talking about yesterday:
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2009/11/23/buzz-building-for-holmgren-to-seahawks/
^^^^^^^^
Hey crazy idiot old man Al Davis…..HIRE Mike Holmgren as the GM/Personnel and have him be the new Ron Wolf!
Then hire Jim Harbaugh or Jon Gruden as Head Coach and let them make the football decisions and turn around this miserable team you have built so the LOSING will stop!
November 24th, 2009 at 12:00 pm
Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
November 24th, 2009 at 11:53 am
New topic.
Would you trade McFelldown for:
A) The rights to Oren O’Neal
B) The rights to Todd Marinovich
C) The NFL rights to Allen Iverson
D) The rights to Tony Mandarich
E) The copyright to the phrase “Oh, Snap!””
Iverson was an amazing football player in High School. Let him run the wildcat.
November 24th, 2009 at 12:00 pm
Main Entry: racist
Part of Speech: adjective
Definition: bigoted
Synonyms: anti-Semitic, biased, illiberal, intolerant, narrow-minded, opinionated, partial, prejudiced, sectarian, small-minded, xenophobic
Main Entry: racist
Part of Speech: noun
Definition: bigot
Synonyms: anti-Semite, black supremacist, chauvinist, diehard, doctrinaire, fanatic, klansperson, opinionated person, prejudiced person, sectarian, segregationist, sexist person, white supremacist, xenophobe
I
think 
that all of you 
who don’t like me 
just because I 
am a coyote 
November 24th, 2009 at 12:02 pm
Man the only team that needs A.I is Bobcats, Iverson and Steven Jackson that would be an offensive team for a defensive minded coach
November 24th, 2009 at 12:02 pm
Dakota Says:
November 24th, 2009 at 11:34 am
AIG,
By the way, OJ was found to be responsible for the death of his ex and that guy…in civil court. So what is your point?
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La Kotex,
Too stupid to even understand the issues huh? They both paid people off. One guy couldnt settle it outside the court and had to be forced to pay. Another guy was richer and was able to pay so that it wont go to court. You want to be innocent? YOu do what Big Ben is doing. Dumba$$
November 24th, 2009 at 12:03 pm
Are racists
November 24th, 2009 at 12:05 pm
Aig,
Obviously you are ignorant of the law if you think a settlement in a civil suit is some sort of an admission.
November 24th, 2009 at 12:09 pm
Tom Cable is an admitted wife beater, but that is not why he will be fired after this season…being a schyt HC is why he will be fired.
November 24th, 2009 at 12:10 pm
LaKotex,
you’re obviously naive to think that a settlement is a sign of innocence. Sorry but poor people who can’t afford an attorney are railroaded into a settlement are the only ones I have ever read about that were truly innocent.
Rich people who can afford the best and greatest attorneys in the country settles only when they want to hide a conviction.
November 24th, 2009 at 12:13 pm
Lakers are going down Saturday. I’d like to hire that kid in Indiana to find Pau Gasol at a bar.
November 24th, 2009 at 12:16 pm
aig Says:
November 24th, 2009 at 12:10 pm
LaKotex,
you’re obviously naive to think that a settlement is a sign of innocence. Sorry but poor people who can’t afford an attorney are railroaded into a settlement are the only ones I have ever read about that were truly innocent.
__________________
Who told you that, John Grisham? lol What we know for certain is that the criminal charges against Kobe were dismissed.
However, we do know for certain that tom Cable admitted to beating his wife…that is a fact jack.
November 24th, 2009 at 12:18 pm
vegas raider Says:
November 24th, 2009 at 12:13 pm
Lakers are going down Saturday. I’d like to hire that kid in Indiana to find Pau Gasol at a bar.”
I always knew I liked you Vegas
November 24th, 2009 at 12:18 pm
Hey Alisgod,
Why did you change your handle to AIG?
November 24th, 2009 at 12:19 pm
Kobe may not have been guilty, but he banged a stupid teenager, what less than a year after getting married? Than threw Shaq under the bus to the cops.
I can be a roach and even I didn’t do that to my wife.
Kobe = Scumbag
November 24th, 2009 at 12:19 pm
The racism in here doesn’t surprise me. When you’ve got a football team that’s been this bad for 7 straight years, it sure as hell doesn’t attract a smart fan base….
November 24th, 2009 at 12:19 pm
vegas raider Says:
November 24th, 2009 at 12:13 pm
Lakers are going down Saturday. I’d like to hire that kid in Indiana to find Pau Gasol at a bar.
_________________
Better put a hit out on Bynum, Artest and Odom too if you want the Ws to win lol.
November 24th, 2009 at 12:22 pm
jump off the bus Gus
November 24th, 2009 at 12:23 pm
well well well
how are my nation brothers doing. been a long time for me, i get it this site from my phone but cant seem to log in. feels good to get a win no matter how we got it. hopefully ill be in dallas tomorrow afternoon.
whats up dakota, hope you been good bro. you and a hand full of others are the only originals on here…too many aka’s now
RAIDER FAHQIN NATION BABY!
November 24th, 2009 at 12:23 pm
The NBA’s a joke. Just sloppy basketball. This Laker team would get demolished by the Shaq team that won 3 straight. Just smashed. It’s not even the same league. If the Celtics stay healthy, they’ll win it again anyway. They’re the best team in the league in this era. They just got killed with injuries last year.
November 24th, 2009 at 12:24 pm
Pujols won the MVP…I can’t wait until they bust him for HGH or roids.
November 24th, 2009 at 12:26 pm
Hey STR, long time! Hope everything is going well for you!
Big game against Dallas for you being that most of your family is Cowgirl fans right?
November 24th, 2009 at 12:30 pm
So as a quick follow-up, me and the wife are having issues trying to have a baby. I smoke a lot of grass, she is 39 years old. Chances are fairly slim without fertility drugs, but we are trying to stay away for the sake of not having sextuplets.
As I was going off the deep end with Bruce Sunday night, and feeling pretty good with a nice buzz, I told her if we go back and Sunday was “inception” day, the kid will be named Bruce if it is a boy.
She laughed and blew me off, but I will hold her to it.
BBRRRRUUCCCEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Bruce Wayne (Vegas Raider) I told her. I’m running with it.
November 24th, 2009 at 12:34 pm
of stately Wayne Manor
November 24th, 2009 at 12:35 pm
Let’s take the basketball talk elsewhere,
just another form of haterism…
go ride their tip on someother forum, been reading about those d-bags way too long…
November 24th, 2009 at 12:36 pm
Vegas…at the point of inception scream out Gradkowski The Great 3 times while spinning the mrs’s!!!
November 24th, 2009 at 12:40 pm
He really had time 2 throw…a combination of good protection and a speedy delivery…if I was Hackett and Cable even on a short week I would be looking at the 12-17 yard plays to incorporate into the game plan
November 24th, 2009 at 12:41 pm
been good man. one thing though, broke my collar bone real bad and had surgery, so now i got a plate with 9 screws, messed up man.
big game going on, i have a good amount of money going on with different people. i feel a little better with grads in the mix.
November 24th, 2009 at 12:41 pm
Too much Grey’s Anatomy has reduced your sperm count Vegas.
You must offset the damage from Thursday night TV by watching Braveheart or Mad Max within 48 hours of watching Greys…
…if you watch Private Practice too, well, there is no hope for you.
November 24th, 2009 at 12:42 pm
# aig Says:
November 24th, 2009 at 11:03 am
Dakotex,
Oh btw, I dare you to come to memphis, Tn and act rough around the ghetto here. They shoot a few rounds off once a week in Midtown Memphis. I dare you. Since you so tough and all.
You’re right and you’re a tough guy HIDING BEHIND A KEYBOARD may I add.
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ROFLMFAO…that has to be the most pathetic CHALLENGE, EVER.
It wasn’t “I dare you to step up” or “I dare you to get in a finger wagging contest with my mum”..no…AlisgodAwful views “hearing gun shots” as the ultimate fright fest?
ARE YOU SERIOUS? lol…geez…”try and act tough around the ghetto here”??
What’s that like? You have no idea, do you, Aliscrap?
You’re quivering under your bed every time a car backfires.
Classic
November 24th, 2009 at 12:44 pm
Dakota,
No Private Practice for me, but I got dragged into Trauma as well, LOL.
Bruce’s infectious energy is going to carry the Raiders and my boys. That’s how awesome he is.
November 24th, 2009 at 12:45 pm
STR,
Man that sucks. My dad broke his collarbone real bad in an ATV accident about 7 years ago…he still has to go to PT once in a while.
Bummer man…there goes your MLB career!
November 24th, 2009 at 12:47 pm
# Dakota Says:
November 24th, 2009 at 12:18 pm
Hey Alisgod,
Why did you change your handle to AIG?
====================
Wouldn’t you?
Al went on record on how Kiffin didn’t want that stud, JR.
JR is riding the bench.
Al, after a year the running game was ranked 6th, signs McFumbleFalldownFaint, passing on obvious needs.
Al passes on Crabtree, who’s an obvious solid WR, who immediately starting producing after all of 8 days of practice, to sign Bey, who sucks, which made zero sense to the world.
Last 3 first round draft picks are, in many eyes, much closer to being busts than even being adequate.
Even that stupid kid realizes his Alisgod handle makes him look even dumber than he is.
And here we thought that not possible, lol.
November 24th, 2009 at 12:49 pm
yeah it didnt feel good the week i had to wait for surgery either, them pills were good though, lol.
hopefully the cowgirls have another off game as they did with the redskins.
victory will be sweet and ill have a fat pocket afterwards…
RAIDER FAQHIN NATION!
November 24th, 2009 at 12:50 pm
Vegas, here is a picture of an ancient fertility god, just print it out and hang it from the ceiling directly above your bed and things will really start cooking:
http://www.witchcraftshop.co.uk/images/items/001556.jpg
November 24th, 2009 at 12:50 pm
Dakota Says:
November 24th, 2009 at 12:18 pm
Hey Alisgod,
Why did you change your handle to AIG?
==========
he got banned lol
November 24th, 2009 at 12:51 pm
# The Real MaddenRaider Says:
November 24th, 2009 at 12:19 pm
The racism in here doesn’t surprise me. When you’ve got a football team that’s been this bad for 7 straight years, it sure as hell doesn’t attract a smart fan base….
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Idiot take from the resident waffle.
YOU run the racist bull****, and now you state you’re not surprised you’re a racist?
November 24th, 2009 at 12:51 pm
Al is God had to change his name to “AIG” because even he couldn’t type “Al is God” without laughing nearly to death.
November 24th, 2009 at 12:54 pm
LaKotex,
I changed it to AIG because the other name doesnt log on anymore. But I’m the same guy. I dont try to hide who i am.
BTW, there’s a great article in his month about DEA agent Lucas who railroaded a bunch of people in Ohio. When you read shcytt like that, you understand why black people dont trust the law. You understand why they settle. That fcking Moron DEA agent was celebrated as one of the finest agents in the agency…only to be proven as a fraud who railroaded anyone he needed to make his quota. His fcking operation was named “Nigg*rs with Rims”. They targeted black folks with money in poor neighborhood cuz they “had to be dealing drugs”. 2 yrs later it was all a fckign set up by a snitch. No my argument is not based on John Grisham. it is based on real life events…when you get your a$$ out of hillbilly country and actually realize that in Memphis they shot a pizza delivery man for less than a $100. They robbed and killed a man while he was taking grocery from his car to his home. They shot a man while walking his dogs….then you realize that there some people that life to them is worth nothing. Then you realize that sometimes its best to shut your mouth and move on.
I leave you with this and now I move on to clown Richochet.
http://blog.cleveland.com/metro/2009/05/dea_agent_lee_lucas_indicted_o.html
November 24th, 2009 at 12:55 pm
I confronted a guy for calling JaMarcus Russell “The black Ryan Leaf”,. and you called me a racist for that, having no criticism whatsoever for the guy unnecessarily using the term “black”. You’re just the kind of racist I’m talking about, Ricochet. When I said that 7 years of losing attracts the worst of the worse, that means you, too.
November 24th, 2009 at 12:56 pm
Richochet,
Silver n Mac challenged your tough bravado to meet him at the Coliseum….
yet I have yet to hear your response to his challenge. You want to own him right?
You want him to be your lap dog right?
Well he said to meet him at the Colisem. Where is yoru response you little biatch?
November 24th, 2009 at 12:57 pm
Dakota Says:
November 24th, 2009 at 12:05 pm
Aig,
Obviously you are ignorant of the law if you think a settlement in a civil suit is some sort of an admission.
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i don’t think he settled he was found “RESPONSIBLE”
he never admitted it. but we all know he did it.
Just like cable won’t admitt he’s a bad coach but we all know he is.
November 24th, 2009 at 12:58 pm
aig Says:
November 24th, 2009 at 10:53 am
Dakotex,
We’ve all been bullied by one idiot or 2 in our lives. It’s how we respond to it you idiot.
I’ve driven down roads with thugs trying to throw bottles at my car. I’ve walked down the road with my wife and gf’s with guys making comments….the thing is I tell them we
best stay clear of them. They dont talk our language, have our values, nor live in our world…..Only idiots try to challenge other idiots.
It’s how you respond to idiots that makes you an idiot or not.
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WAIT!!.
You state “stay clear of them”
“It’s how you respond to idiots that makes you an idiot or not”..
…but then..you challenge Dakota to “come out to Memphis and see if you’re a badass listening to gunshots, instead of hiding behind a keyboard”
So, in other words, according to YOU, you are an IDIOT.
We finally agree.
November 24th, 2009 at 12:58 pm
If we knock around Romo, he will wilt. He always has.
November 24th, 2009 at 1:01 pm
Richocschytt,
you gonna meet Silver n Mac at the Coliseum or not? yes or no please.
November 24th, 2009 at 1:01 pm
# aig Says:
November 24th, 2009 at 12:56 pm
Richochet,
Silver n Mac challenged your tough bravado to meet him at the Coliseum….
yet I have yet to hear your response to his challenge. You want to own him right?
You want him to be your lap dog right?
Well he said to meet him at the Colisem. Where is yoru response you little biatch?
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Mama’s boy…pay attention.
GO LOOK AT MY REPLY, YOU DUMBASS.
I clearly stated that, first off, there is NO GAME this Sunday, but INSTEAD told him I will be at the Englander on parrott st, in San Leandro, on Friday night.
Also asked him what color dress he would be wearing.
THEN REMINDED HIM OF EXACTLY WHERE I’LL BE, dumbass.
He then, conveniently, pretended he now couldn’t be bothered to reply, and quickly left.
Now, back to why is it you soil your pretty pink little panties at the sound of gunfire?
November 24th, 2009 at 1:03 pm
aig Says:
November 24th, 2009 at 12:54 pm
LaKotex,
I changed it to AIG because the other name doesnt log on anymore. But I’m the same guy. I dont try to hide who i am.
BTW, there’s a great article in his month about DEA agent Lucas who railroaded a bunch of people in Ohio. When you read shcytt like that, you understand why black people dont trust the law. You understand why they settle. That fcking Moron DEA agent was celebrated as one of the finest agents in the agency…only to be proven as a fraud who railroaded anyone he needed to make his quota. His fcking operation was named “Nigg*rs with Rims”. They targeted black folks with money in poor neighborhood cuz they “had to be dealing drugs”. 2 yrs later it was all a fckign set up by a snitch.
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LMAO, for a guy that just spent the day railing against Kobe for settling a civil suit and for not fighting everything in court it sure seems strange to post a link to a story that shows just how a person can be railroaded in the judicial system.
I guess you now understand why some people settle out of court?
November 24th, 2009 at 1:03 pm
What a putz, lol.
November 24th, 2009 at 1:03 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
November 24th, 2009 at 12:55 pm
I confronted a guy for calling JaMarcus Russell “The black Ryan Leaf”,. and you called me a racist for that, having no criticism whatsoever for the guy unnecessarily using the term “black”. You’re just the kind of racist I’m talking about, Ricochet. When I said that 7 years of losing attracts the worst of the worse, that means you, too.
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You should change your name to THE REAL TARZAN. as much as you swing of JaFatBoy’s nutz sack.
you were and are WRONG get over it !!!!! you look really stupid when you start trying to bash the team minutes after a win over a 7-2 opponent.
i realy like phillip buchanon when we got him but i was WRONG !! and i admit it.
you should try it it feals refreshing to admit your wrong kind of theraputic…
JaFatBoy sucks like ryan leaf and he happens to be black so i do not feel it would be racist to call him the black ryan leaf . or call ryan leaf the white JaFatBoy.
November 24th, 2009 at 1:06 pm
No LaKotex,
He is not facing a criminal court. He is facing a civil court. Big fcking difference. When Koby can afford the best attorney in the country and yet he settles than you are a fcking naive person with rose colored glasses on here because Koby can score points.
November 24th, 2009 at 1:07 pm
Richochet,
You gonna meet him at the coliseum at the next game or not? ys or no please?
November 24th, 2009 at 1:11 pm
Lakotex,
first you say I get my theories from John Grisham. I slamed in your fcking face with the article on DEA Lucas….now you coming back with another excuse. Those poor black folks settled cuz they couldnt afford an attorney.
Your highty mighty Koby Bryant can afford the best attorney in the country just like Big Ben. Except Big Ben challenges his rape accuser while your billy idol pays off his accuser.
November 24th, 2009 at 1:12 pm
Yep I think our defense can handle there offense and our offense can handle their defense.Even with-out Seymour and better yet with-out Romo.Again ball-control and a rested defense in the 4th and Lechler up our sleeve.This “may” just work the rest of the season
November 24th, 2009 at 1:13 pm
AIG
Why don’t you meet Richochet somewhere…you are like the little twerp in class that tries to get other people to fight because he is too scared to fight on his own.
What a vag.
November 24th, 2009 at 1:14 pm
4eva,
so long as Grad doesnt act like Jafumble and Jainterception then we should have a competitive game. The D will do fine so long as we dont break its back with stupid turn overs.
November 24th, 2009 at 1:15 pm
# 4evaRaider Says:
November 24th, 2009 at 6:46 am
Rockstar…I was wondering if you fell of the earth!!!
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Translation: I missed you, ya big lug!!
November 24th, 2009 at 1:17 pm
this is basically our superbowl…Get a in front of whole nation. GO Raiders!!!
November 24th, 2009 at 1:17 pm
you see so deeply you do
November 24th, 2009 at 1:17 pm
vegas raider Says:
November 24th, 2009 at 12:30 pm
So as a quick follow-up, me and the wife are having issues trying to have a baby. I smoke a lot of grass, she is 39 years old. Chances are fairly slim without fertility drugs, but we are trying to stay away for the sake of not having sextuplets.
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Hey Vegas, I have a ton of experience in this area – had my only daughter through IVF with an older wife. If you need to discuss let me know.
GOOD LUCK!
November 24th, 2009 at 1:17 pm
*GET A WIN in front of all of America.
November 24th, 2009 at 1:18 pm
# aig Says:
November 24th, 2009 at 1:07 pm
Richochet,
You gonna meet him at the coliseum at the next game or not? ys or no please?
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Are you stupid? Can you read?
POST 514, MORON.
# Richochet Says:
November 24th, 2009 at 1:01 pm
# aig Says:
November 24th, 2009 at 12:56 pm
Richochet,
Silver n Mac challenged your tough bravado to meet him at the Coliseum….
yet I have yet to hear your response to his challenge. You want to own him right?
You want him to be your lap dog right?
Well he said to meet him at the Colisem. Where is yoru response you little biatch?
======================
Mama’s boy…pay attention.
GO LOOK AT MY REPLY, YOU DUMBASS.
I clearly stated that, first off, there is NO GAME this Sunday, but INSTEAD told him I will be at the Englander on parrott st, in San Leandro, on Friday night.
Also asked him what color dress he would be wearing.
THEN REMINDED HIM OF EXACTLY WHERE I’LL BE, dumbass.
He then, conveniently, pretended he now couldn’t be bothered to reply, and quickly left.
Now, back to why is it you soil your pretty pink little panties at the sound of gunfire?
November 24th, 2009 at 1:18 pm
Lakotex,
Richochyt wanted to own SilvernMac. SilvernMac will agree to it if Richochyt shows up at the Coliseum. Obvoiusly Richochyt bluffed and got called. Richoshyt talks a lot of smack on here but nothing like being called on your own bluff.
November 24th, 2009 at 1:18 pm
you guys make me laugh challenging each other to fights over the net.
November 24th, 2009 at 1:18 pm
Aig,
I love how you declare victory for yourself while no one gets your back, lol.
The only thing you have done today is show your ignorance of the legal system and then post articles that support your opposition’s contentions, lol.
VICTORY!
lmao
November 24th, 2009 at 1:19 pm
Rackofshyt,
it’s easy. You act like a tough guy on here and wanted to make SilvernMac your lap dog right? Well meet him at a neutral site. Meet him at the coliseum. If they are not playing there this week then meet him there the next time they play at home. You being a tough guy and all. Yes or no please?
November 24th, 2009 at 1:19 pm
# SharkCatcher Says:
November 24th, 2009 at 1:17 pm
this is basically our superbowl…Get a in front of whole nation. GO Raiders!!!
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Playing Dallas?
the cowboys?
Dallas is playing like crappola. How do you view Dallas as the top of the mountain? They’re barely the top of Alisgod’s pimple.
November 24th, 2009 at 1:20 pm
La Kotex,
I love how you bash a wife beater but worship a rapist.
November 24th, 2009 at 1:21 pm
Rackoflambs,
Coliseum… yes or no?
November 24th, 2009 at 1:23 pm
The only person to thank for Sundays victory is one “Mr. Allan H. Davis”; disrespectfully referred to here as ‘Al’.
Mr. Davis is the E.F. Hutton of NFL. When he talks “people listen”, and oh how we listen; with rapt attention to a genius who’s knowledge and expertise have only ripened with age.
We hang on each word “The Master” utters, as though it is coming from a Divine source; well in fact it IS of divine origin.
Mere humans may try to comprehend “The Master” and his wisdom, but only an elite and precious few are able to. Those that do are indeed blessed with a precious gift; the gift of true understanding of “The Master” and his ways.
It may be difficult to ascertain “The Master” and His machinations of superior achievement, but we try;oh how we try, and with time the truths “The Master” reveals will be seen and finally appreciated for the eternal wisdom they are clothed with.
November 24th, 2009 at 1:23 pm
Which convicted or admitted rapist would that be Alisgod?
November 24th, 2009 at 1:25 pm
# aig Says:
November 24th, 2009 at 1:19 pm
Rackofshyt,
it’s easy. You act like a tough guy on here and wanted to make SilvernMac your lap dog right? Well meet him at a neutral site. Meet him at the coliseum. If they are not playing there this week then meet him there the next time they play at home. You being a tough guy and all. Yes or no please?
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So Dakota is right.
YOU don’t have the balls to basically do anything, but you’ll jump in on someone else’s challenge?
Do you not realize that makes you everyone’s biotch? lol…damn..are you always this slow?
Neutral site? The Englander IS A NEUTRAL SITE, you stupid fool. Approaching someone at HIS tailgate, surrounded by friends, isn’t. You needed to be told that? Again, when you get older? You’ll look back on these days and state two things…first “Damn, I sure was a puzzy” and “They were right, I did look dumber than cotton”.
Then you’ll wonder when you won’t.
But that’s another story.
Tell you what..you need directions to the Englander? Come on..ask your mom..I’m sure she’ll drive ya.
November 24th, 2009 at 1:26 pm
hey eveyrone, I’m dakotex. I hate Cable for slapping his wife but hey my billy idol Kobe Bryant paid off a rape case….he’s my idol you know.
November 24th, 2009 at 1:29 pm
http://i266.photobucket.com/albums/ii245/ezcomeezgo/InternetToughGuy.jpg
November 24th, 2009 at 1:30 pm
# SharkCatcher Says:
November 24th, 2009 at 1:18 pm
you guys make me laugh challenging each other to fights over the net.
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It is rather humorous, isn’t it?
the reality?
Those like Smac? Alisgod? When you give them an exact address and time? THEY NEVER SHOW..ever.
It’s a weak bluff because they feel inadequate, and embarrassed, and hope challenging someone will mask the fact thinking on their feet was never their forte’.
And then they get the double indignity of making excuses on why they got busy/lost/confused/couldn’t be bothered.
Or..like Alisgod..he doesn’t even have the balls to ACT like he’ll show..his little BB size huevos swells at the thought someone ELSE might show, where he can get brave, vicariously, through the other posters.
It’s called Mini-Huevos Syndrome.
November 24th, 2009 at 1:31 pm
Richochet,
so let me get this straight….
you dont want to meet silvernMac at the tailgate party because you dont think it’s a good idea right? Because that’s on his turf right? But it doesnt make you a wzzy right?
So how is that any different from other people who do the exact same thing? Nice one Rachoshyt. I guess silvernMac dont have to worry about you coming after him at the Coliseum. Thanks for letting him off the hook and thanks for proving my point. Case closed.
November 24th, 2009 at 1:33 pm
Only way win is if we can stop the run and force Dallas to pass, Landry the saftey from Redskins said Roy Williams is scared to run in the middle, shut down Austin and blitz Romo like we did to Palmer and McNabb, we have a chance to stop their defense.
Offensively, Henderson vs Demarcus Ware will be key match. Also Satele vs Ratliff, our OL needs to play physical run the ball control the play clock we leace BG with 3 n short which he can get it through his hands or legs. Dallas allowed over 100 yards rushing last week to Redskins without portis n Betts. Play caling will be essential but I feel we have a good chance wining especially with BG starting over Russell
November 24th, 2009 at 1:33 pm
Richochet Says:
November 24th, 2009 at 1:25 pm
Approaching someone at HIS tailgate, surrounded by friends, isn’t.
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Thanks for proving my point. You go guy. You da best.
November 24th, 2009 at 1:35 pm
I am much more scared about Ratliff vs Satele, than Ware vs Henderson.
Mario has yet to have an awful game, he gets a penalty here and there and his man beats him every once in awhile, but he holds it down on his side. Very very solid player.
November 24th, 2009 at 1:37 pm
BSJ,
Appreciate it man, I may seek your counsel another time.
November 24th, 2009 at 1:39 pm
alisgod Says:
November 3rd, 2009 at 8:37 am
20 yrs ago I backhanded my ex-wife in the car during an argument.
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AIG (f.k.a. Alisgod),
I almost forgot about this, lol…you too are an admitted wife-beater…no wonder you are so sensitive about the subject of Tom Cable and wife-beating, lol
AIG is a wife beating puzzy but wants to judge me for being a Lakers’ fan when Kobe never admitted to or was found guilty of any sort of rape?
LMFAO
You are a joke buddy and you have been exposed.
November 24th, 2009 at 1:40 pm
Nice memory and research Dakota. K.O.
November 24th, 2009 at 1:41 pm
# aig Says:
November 24th, 2009 at 1:31 pm
Richochet,
so let me get this straight….
you dont want to meet silvernMac at the tailgate party because you dont think it’s a good idea right? Because that’s on his turf right? But it doesnt make you a wzzy right?
RICHOCHET: No dumbass, that makes me smart. Who, in their right mind, is going to approach someone surrounded by friends, and take on him AND a handful of friends? lol..you little mama’s boy needed that explained?
Hell..YOU HAVE NO IDEA WHAT I’M TALKING ABOUT.
YOUR IDEA OF A CHALLENGE? Was for someone to come to the ghetto where you live and “DARED HIM TO COME AND LISTEN TO THE COUPLE OF ROUNDS SHOT OFF EACH WEEK”..as if that just scared the hell out of you.
Yes, LMFAO that your sorryass already copped to the fact you RUN TO THE OTHER SIDE OF THE STREET..probably pizzing your pants..at just the idea of those “big scary guys standing there”.
You’re a wimp..an ADMITTED MAMA’S BOY..an ADMITTED COWARD.
Yeah, YOUR WORDS.
And look? lol You aren’t talking about YOU doing anything..you just want to stay behind your mommy’s dress and watch others.
You ever wonder why many refer to you as a worm?
Now you know.
OH..wait..did you need directions to The Englander?
Yeah, coward, didn’t think so.
November 24th, 2009 at 1:42 pm
AIG needs a bailout
(Ba-doosh)
November 24th, 2009 at 1:44 pm
yep play-action away from Ware and some draws right at him and we can take this one too,imo
November 24th, 2009 at 1:46 pm
I wonder what Alisgod will change his handle to next?
Wifebeatersaregods?
November 24th, 2009 at 1:46 pm
# Dakota Says:
November 24th, 2009 at 1:39 pm
alisgod Says:
November 3rd, 2009 at 8:37 am
20 yrs ago I backhanded my ex-wife in the car during an argument.
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AIG (f.k.a. Alisgod),
I almost forgot about this, lol…you too are an admitted wife-beater…no wonder you are so sensitive about the subject of Tom Cable and wife-beating, lol
AIG is a wife beating puzzy but wants to judge me for being a Lakers’ fan when Kobe never admitted to or was found guilty of any sort of rape?
LMFAO
You are a joke buddy and you have been exposed.
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oh..THAT’S RIGHT….yep…ROFLMFAO..I remember that.
Damn…talk about crash and burn.
First, as I recall, it was “backhanded his wife”
Then was “well, she was a lowdown ho, who was pulling a train with every guy within 10 blocks, and her family “probably” would have thanked me for beating her”
THEN..he started backtracking like a lying ass, stating how she hit him with her shoe, and gave him permanent mental damage…oh..LOL..and then stated “but we’re good buddies”
That was that sorry joke, wasn’t it? Thanks for bringing that up..
OH WAIT..isn’t he the same one who posted he doesn’t work? That he sits on his ass, at home, all day, while his wife works?
Yep..I think so
You should have changed your name to “IamAsorryExcuseForA-Man”, Aig.
Fits ya.
November 24th, 2009 at 1:47 pm
La Kotex,
Yup I did it. Nothing to worry about since I told you guys about it to prove a point. It doesnt make me a better man. But I does make me puke at guys like you who acts mighty highty but yet worship a guy that pays off his Rape Accuser. You having a little tough time dealing with that fact as I can see. Just because a rich person pays off to quiet the case doesnt mean they are innocent. La Kotex, I’m sorry I ruined your image of Billy Idol Bryant.
oh btw, i slapped my wife again last nite. She was on her knees, turned around and asked me to spank her cuz she been a bad girl.
November 24th, 2009 at 1:48 pm
Didn’t Karl Malone accuse Kobe of hitting on his wife or something like that?
November 24th, 2009 at 1:50 pm
Prove a point? You proved you’re a lying piece of crap, who’s too stupid to remember his own lies.
Proved that you’re an unemployed loser, sitting at home.
Proved you’ll step up and throw down..AS LONG AS IT’S AGAINST A WOMAN.
Against men? YOU ALREADY ADMITTED YOU RUSH TO CROSS THE STREET.
You’re a coward, a loser, and a worm.
November 24th, 2009 at 1:52 pm
No Koby acted tough about Karl Malone hitting on his wife. But Koby was no where tough when he settled his rape lawsuit. He could have easily do whta Big Ben is doing … but no, i’m rich. let me pay you off so that the millions of people like LaKotex can continue to worship me.
November 24th, 2009 at 1:52 pm
Vegas,
I think Malone said he was out hunting little mexican girls or something like that to Kobe’s wife.
November 24th, 2009 at 1:54 pm
Richochet,
It’s nice of you to mention how tough you are but refusing to show up at the colisem cuz of Silver n Mac’s friends but to mock me when I say this is not a good place to be and lets get out of here. Real nice and tough of you bro.
November 24th, 2009 at 1:54 pm
yep prolly while he was out “delivering” the male =)
November 24th, 2009 at 1:55 pm
That’s right it was the Mailman, lol.
I knew there was something. I miss Karl and his denim suits.
November 24th, 2009 at 1:55 pm
lot of stone throwers a lot of em
November 24th, 2009 at 1:56 pm
Guys, isn’t it amusing when a guy that only has the courage to hit a woman sits around questioning the toughness of others?
November 24th, 2009 at 1:56 pm
Dakota bombaye !!
November 24th, 2009 at 1:56 pm
Come on, Aig..explain how it is you admit to hitting women, and acting all brave when it’s safe..but admit above that when you get confronted by a guy, you admit to crossing the street to avoid any confrontation, possible.
What does that make you?
A coward?
A spineless worm?
Or a scumbag spineless joke of a man, coward?
November 24th, 2009 at 1:57 pm
Dakota
Hells Bells
November 24th, 2009 at 2:00 pm
The Monty Python skit where the professional boxer beats the hell out of a lil-o-lady for like 12 rounds LMMFAO !!!!!!!!! In her granny-dress !!!!!lolol
November 24th, 2009 at 2:01 pm
Do I get extra points if an old girlfriend of mine used to kick MY ass?
I never had the heart to whack her back, but still… those sucker punches to my gut were just WRONG!
Instead I just told her ass stank. No wonder I got punched!
November 24th, 2009 at 2:04 pm
I brought up my example to prove a poitn that when you make 1 mistake in your life in reflex to your woman hitting you … it shouldnt be used to assassinate your character 20 fcking yrs later when they were doing the same thign to Cable. i feel for the man and I can relate to him.
I dont go on here saying I’m a tough guy (richochet). I dont go on here saying that I am highty mighty iwth my morals (LaKotex). I think it is extremely HYPOCRITICAL of you to bash Cable while you worship a guy that paid off a RAPE CASE.
All you Koby Bryant worshippers can worship him for all you want but dont try to be high morals when you know damn well he paid off a rape case.
November 24th, 2009 at 2:04 pm
sounds like you got lucky she didnt sew you 2 the bed,Bo
November 24th, 2009 at 2:05 pm
# aig Says:
November 24th, 2009 at 10:53 am
Dakota Says:
November 24th, 2009 at 10:20 am
So Clausen’s girlfriend was pushed, and he pushed the guy that did it in defense of his girl. What a bastard! We can’t have that kind of person on our team! We like the wife-beaters, not the girlfriend defenders around these parts!
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Dakotex,
We’ve all been bullied by one idiot or 2 in our lives. It’s how we respond to it you idiot.
I’ve driven down roads with thugs trying to throw bottles at my car. I’ve walked down the road with my wife and gf’s with guys making comments….the thing is I tell them we
best stay clear of them. They dont talk our language, have our values, nor live in our world…..Only idiots try to challenge other idiots.
It’s how you respond to idiots that makes you an idiot or not.
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I love it, lol
Aig: “we best stay clear of them. Only idiots try to challenge other idiots”.
and the topper?? “thugs” ROFLMAO….yeah, Aig, everyone is a “thug”
November 24th, 2009 at 2:13 pm
Ahh..you don’t come on saying YOU’RE a tough guy? All the while asking over and over when am I going to go challenge Smac?
And then you stupidly mention that YOU think it’s extremely HYPOCRITICAL?
You state anyone who looks for violence is an idiot, while you repeatedly challenge ME to look for violence? lol
How can you be this stupid?
And Kobe? YOU BROUGHT UP KOBE, you idiot. You were getting slapped down like a defenseless child, and you state ‘oh, well…uh…you’re a laker fan..and Kobe is on the lakers”.
Means your sorryass had NOTHING, so you ran to that, trying to hang onto something to say.
Just like you had squat in reply to me, so ran the “oh, why didn’t you go to the coliseum” sorry reply, hoping that also would give you an out.
It didn’t.
Just verified what we all know.
You beat women, and actually proudly state “she deserved it”
You’re unemployed, and are proud of that.
Yeah..you’re a real class act.
November 24th, 2009 at 2:13 pm
vegas raider Says:
November 24th, 2009 at 1:55 pm
That’s right it was the Mailman, lol.
I knew there was something. I miss Karl and his denim suits.”
Karl Malone is my cousin by marriage. I have had the opportunity to hang with him on occasion and he is very much the prick that he seems to be. He did hook my little cousins up with fake Jazz lockers when they were kids but other than that he is a dik.
November 24th, 2009 at 2:14 pm
After reading the non sense in this thread it amazes me the amount of morons who actually think Al Davis has been doing a GOOD job the last 7 years with his lousy coaching decisions and lousy personnel decisions.
TRUE Raider fans knows what needs to happen to this organization to turn the ship around.
Hey crazy idiot old man Al Davis…..HIRE Mike Holmgren as the GM/Personnel and have him be the new Ron Wolf!
Then HIRE Jim Harbaugh or Jon Gruden as Head Coach and let Holmgren and one those two excellent coaches make the football decisions so they can turn around this miserable franchise you have built the last 7 years so the LOSING will stop!
November 24th, 2009 at 2:14 pm
Dakota
Back in Black
November 24th, 2009 at 2:15 pm
Hells Bells indeed Dell!
November 24th, 2009 at 2:20 pm
RaiderDogg Says:
November 24th, 2009 at 2:13 pm
vegas raider Says:
November 24th, 2009 at 1:55 pm
That’s right it was the Mailman, lol.
I knew there was something. I miss Karl and his denim suits.”
Karl Malone is my cousin by marriage. I have had the opportunity to hang with him on occasion and he is very much the prick that he seems to be. He did hook my little cousins up with fake Jazz lockers when they were kids but other than that he is a dik.
_______________________
Now if you want to talk about rape…doesn’t the math on some of Karl’s kids’ ages’ equal statutory rape?
November 24th, 2009 at 2:20 pm
Richochet,
I merely remind you that while you brag about how you own other people on here and they aer your LAP DOG. yet when they call your bluff, you wilt and citing the coliseum as unsafe for you.
No I dont call La Kotex or you my lap dogs. La Kotex thinks he is tough and mock me for not wanting to endanger my family in my neighborhood. I wanted to remind him that when you live in teh 2nd worst crime city in the US (memphis) you best shut your mouth and move on when idiots and thugs cross you. They dont value life here when they shoot a pizza delivery guy for less than a $100.
Get it? I doubt you do. you jumped in the middle of the argument and didnt know your shyt and began your tough talk calling me names. I thought it would be nice to remind you that you called mac your lap dog and you refused to meet him at the coliseum citing “his friends” as the excuse.
November 24th, 2009 at 2:22 pm
Which one of you in here is John Herrera or maybe his and Al Davis’lapdog?
Come on….admit it! LOL
November 24th, 2009 at 2:25 pm
Dakota Says:
November 24th, 2009 at 2:20 pm
RaiderDogg Says:
November 24th, 2009 at 2:13 pm
vegas raider Says:
November 24th, 2009 at 1:55 pm
That’s right it was the Mailman, lol.
I knew there was something. I miss Karl and his denim suits.”
Karl Malone is my cousin by marriage. I have had the opportunity to hang with him on occasion and he is very much the prick that he seems to be. He did hook my little cousins up with fake Jazz lockers when they were kids but other than that he is a dik.
_______________________
Now if you want to talk about rape…doesn’t the math on some of Karl’s kids’ ages’ equal statutory rape?”
He has more kids than he knows about.
November 24th, 2009 at 2:25 pm
Dakota
TNT
November 24th, 2009 at 2:27 pm
DK.
I doubt there is any Herrera here. just a few hypocrites and tough talking behind the keyboard.
I’m sure some of them thinks their laptop is bigger than my laptop….know what i mean.
I can’t stand hypocrites.
November 24th, 2009 at 2:28 pm
I am Mike Taylor
I am also the Easter Bunny, Santa Claus and Brobee from Yo Gabba Gabba!
November 24th, 2009 at 2:29 pm
AIG,
Haven’t you suffered enough embarrassment for the day? Change your name and come back and try again tomorrow.
Next time come up with another name to call me because using “Dakotex” or similar versions thereof with your new handle will just give you away again.
Oh, and not only are you a wife-beater, we both know you are a troll that changed handles repeatedly before registration, lol.
What else should I expect from a wife-beating puzzy like you?
November 24th, 2009 at 2:30 pm
RaiderDogg Says:
November 24th, 2009 at 2:25 pm
Dakota
TNT
_______________
oi oi oi
November 24th, 2009 at 2:33 pm
DKnight007,
Well, we all know that AIG isn’t Herrera. We all witnessed the fact that Herrera at least had the balls to yell at a small Asian reporter.
AIG only has the balls to slap women.
November 24th, 2009 at 2:35 pm
Jeez Dakotex,
If I was embarrassed, do you think I would have brought it up in the first place? No that shcyt doesnt define me.
But it is kinda nice for you to trash Cable and I while you worship Koby who PAID OFF HIS RAPE CASE…kinda disengenious no?
November 24th, 2009 at 2:48 pm
For a change of pace:
Updated: Nov 24, 2009 5:33 PM EST
MEXICO CITY (AP) – A NASA astronaut says he wants to help Mexican officials start the country’s first space agency.
Legislators have set aside 10 million pesos ($775,000) for the Mexican Space Agency in next year’s budget, but the program has not yet been officially established.
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Anyone volunteer to go into space on their budget.
November 25th, 2009 at 9:11 am
I hope Cable thinks more this week of letting Dmac return punts and/or kick offs and implement the “Wildhog” or “WildPirate” or whatever we want to call it. We can beat Dallas!