Raiders live chat: Tuesday, Nov. 24 at noon
By Jon Becker
Monday, November 23rd, 2009 at 1:01 am in Live chats, Oakland Raiders.
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November 23rd, 2009 at 1:09 am
A lucky victory via a fluke fumble does not justify the soap opera that goes on here, constantly. I’m unimpressed. 6 straight seasons with 11 or more losses, and 3-7 this year? The only thing that convinces me is a blowout vs. a team like Cincy. 3 wins straight would do, too. I’m guessing we’re 4-12 by season’s end. I’m also predicting both Cable and Gradkowski are gone after this year. Unfortunately, Al won’t be.
November 23rd, 2009 at 1:12 am
And I also feel sorry for the Coopers in that the last team Marquis played for was the drama circus known as the Oakland Raiders. A woman beating coach, a team that sabotages their first round black quarterback, an owner who doesn’t like smart black athletes, and that’s just the beginning of it. Because Cooper played here last, they have this default link to the team and of course they have to show up to games when invited, just out of formality. I’m certain this trip to Oakland was more work than it was pleasure for the Coopers.
November 23rd, 2009 at 1:22 am
Hey MR. Yea I was on atdhe today, and around the 3rd qtr, I got hit with some malware of some sort. It tried to get me to run an exe. file but i didnt. Im still running scans right now just to get it all out.
November 23rd, 2009 at 1:37 am
I don’t get why the glass-half-empty fraction here tries to constantly remind the glass-half-full fraction that the glass is half empty…
We won. Period. Cinci had a chance as well but they didn’t take it.
The win was admittedly somewhat lucky. But we put in enough effort and stayed in the game long enough that the one or two lucky breaks at the end could still make a difference. It was a combination of Cinci giving one away and us being smart enough to not kill ourselves until then. In between we actively, consciously made a couple of really good plays on D, ST and O.
Now let’s see if they can carry some of the good things into Dallas. But Dallas will be very, very motivated to beat us in their new stadium. OTOH the Raiders are good at surprises, bad (KC loss) and good (Philly win, Cinci win)…. we’ll see…
November 23rd, 2009 at 1:42 am
re virus from atdhe:
I have Kaspersky Internet Security, and at one point it too alerted of some malware and denied it’s installation/running. So not a biggie, just showing that not to have an AV software running at all times is like internet suicide…
November 23rd, 2009 at 1:51 am
Abused by Al, I love how you insist the glass is even half full… I see about a drop of orange juice in the glass, and today’s game was it. Call it 1/8 full all you will.
November 23rd, 2009 at 1:59 am
Kaspersky? Havent heard of that one. Im running Panda and Webroot.
November 23rd, 2009 at 2:04 am
The old Raiders won some lucky ones too. The HOLY ROLLER and countless others where Stabler and other guys came through with some wacky stuff.
Good win.
Too bad that all this QB controversy has shrouded the good play of some of our young guys.
Richardson played well yesterday. Shaunessy is making a move to become a guy we can use in the future, Branch is showing to be a BIG TIME pick, Huff has improved, Henderson is a very solid T, Chaz will get healthy and be a good no. 1 WR.
We actually have some guys who can play and we still have some holes to fill.
1. We have to get our WR’s in with the program.
2. We need to get JaMarcus on track.
This win by Grad should show JaMarcus that he can do the same if he puts in a bit more work and gets serious.
Just think if JaMarcus got his head together, he would be amazing.
November 23rd, 2009 at 2:06 am
JaMarcus is NOT done yet. He’s got time to make it work.
If a non-talented little dude can win with hard work and “punctuality” then JaMarcus should be able to figure out the key areas he needs to improve on.
November 23rd, 2009 at 2:06 am
“Raider rookies and 2nd stringers help secure unlikely victory”
http://www.raidernationstation.com/exclusives
BRANCH!
November 23rd, 2009 at 2:29 am
There is no connection between the current Raiders and the “old Raiders”, Copenhagan. It went to Green Bay in the ’90s. Today’s lucky bounce has absolutely no relationship, either real or supernatural, with plays such as the holy roller.
November 23rd, 2009 at 3:21 am
Not to mention, the rules of the game have changed, since then
November 23rd, 2009 at 3:45 am
Real RM, I just disagree with you. But that’s OK.
We all know that Raiders have a long way to go towards respectability. But you have to start somewhere. Maybe that game was a start, maybe it was not and all is lost again in Dallas. I’m not saying they will win, that would be an outrageous statement. But if they can again avoid penalties and turnovers, play good defence and sustain some drives… We’ll find out very soon.
If we can move from consistently bad as we are/were to consistently mediocre, it’s not very exciting, but it is progress. 6-10 at the end of the season with a little bit of an uptrend on offense (DHB catching a few balls, among other things) and I say we were not total suckers in 2009. Hopefully we found out which players to retain and which to send packing.
Then comes a new season and we’ll see how this goes. I hope the organisation will change, with Al ceding (sp?) some control but I’m not betting on it.
November 23rd, 2009 at 4:04 am
Good Morning NATION!!!
November 23rd, 2009 at 4:12 am
People scream for years that we cant win because of Big Al…Cable…Jmac…WR’s…O-line…D-line…and millions of other reasons.If we woulda fumbled the ball at the end and lost these same idiots would be screaming typical Raiders.But sense we put together a game plan that would work…quick-pitches and short passes 2 Dmac (like I suggested)and did enough to capitalize at the end and win they call it a non deserved win.What a bunch of ignorant monkey haterzzz they are.Go to your 49ers web site because thats where you belong.Azzholes.I am happy for the win we EARNED and take it as a step in the right direction….Oh and 1 more thing
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
November 23rd, 2009 at 4:20 am
Mornin’ 4evaRaider,
I’m going to post something I’m sure you all ready know but here’s the proof:
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
blitzing and luck. that’s all that happened today. neither will happen next week.
Cincy choked this one, gave it to us.
luck is luck.
A good team beat themselves. That’s all that happened today. That’s how it will be written, as well it should be.
The Raiders do NOT have a team, no matter who starts at QB, gradkowski or Russell.
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During the game for 3.5 hrs MR wailed against Grad for NOT being JaMarcus as if he’s was JR’s greatest fan. The last 3 years he’s been wailing against JR.
Does this sound like a Raider fan to you guys? He’s just another internet troll with nothing new to say. Why can’t we get this troll banned like NarcoBob?
November 23rd, 2009 at 4:20 am
I will say this after our EARNED VICTORY…
Kirk Morrisson has 2 go.Maybe he can play SAM but no-way is he a MLB.Thats our weakest spot,imo
November 23rd, 2009 at 4:23 am
Morning TW!!!
Yep I dont even utter its name…a true hater in every semse of the word
November 23rd, 2009 at 4:25 am
Yep A WELL EARNED VICTORY against Cincy’s 1st string and you could see they threw everything they had at Grads but the O-line really played well in pass-protection
November 23rd, 2009 at 4:26 am
Morning coffee always taste better after A WELL EARNED VICTORY!!!
November 23rd, 2009 at 4:26 am
It was funny to see the time spent ragging on the Raiders during the game & then dissappear when it was over.
November 23rd, 2009 at 4:28 am
I didn’t get to see most of the game but as soon as the Denver game was over (I won $40 on them) It picked up with the replay of the KO fumble. I was exstatic!
November 23rd, 2009 at 4:30 am
This week I have to cover for an employee who has this week off, meaning I start work at 4am! On my computer was a note that said: Brocos Rule!!! Raiders play w/daolls!!! Obviously put on before the games, hahaha.
November 23rd, 2009 at 4:32 am
You’re right 4eva, no sacks, I wonder how MR can spin thta one. Looks like the O line played harder for Grad or he just gets rid of the ball quicker.
November 23rd, 2009 at 4:34 am
4 Grads 1 st game at the helm he didnt get sacked and played smart.I think Grads and Dmac will take this team 2 the next level.As soon as our WR made a catch and our RB’s caught the ball it opened the running lanes almost instantly.We had long ball control drives and when the drive stalled Lechler would pin Cincy deep.Our defense was WELL RESTED in the 4th qt,and that REALLY SHOWED.Yep Grads and his ball-control mistake style is just what we need.Dmac is gonna flourish now,imo
November 23rd, 2009 at 4:37 am
A little of both,imo TW.
You should get a little stuffed blue or orange pony and rip its head off and put it on his computer!!!Kinda like the Godfather lol
November 23rd, 2009 at 4:44 am
Bush fumbled also but the DEFENSE HELD.Cincy fumbled and we scored…thats the mark of a good team…taking advantage of the other teams mistakes
YEP ALL IN ALL A VERY WELL DESERVED VICTORY IN ALL NATION MEMBER EYES!!!
November 23rd, 2009 at 4:49 am
I grew up in Texas as a Raider fan & am looking forward to Thanksgiving game. My dreams of a Oakland/Dallas Superbowl were dashed by the Donkeys when Rob Lytle’s fumble was ignored by the refs robbing me of the best Superbowl ever. That’s when I first started hating the Broncos. Now I just make money off their fans!
November 23rd, 2009 at 5:14 am
I would enjoy making money off them 2!!!
November 23rd, 2009 at 5:45 am
If I could have any team facing the Raiders in the S/B it would be the Bears…All my uncles are Bears fans and I would like nothing more than to have the Raidersw stomp the Bears in the S/B
November 23rd, 2009 at 5:52 am
Good Morning Nation!!!
This is what I saw yesterday…
Yes, Palmer and Ocho were kinda having their way in the beginning. A little adjustment held up a lot as we were only down by a TD at half time. Now this is what kills me…HALFTIME ADJUSTMENTS…??? Could it be? As Carlson Palmer really could not do much in the 3rd, let alone the 4th! Gradkowski made throws that Russell never could have done in the past 3 years…haha! He has 2 TDs in one game while Russell has 2 all year?
Anyways…good win and you should have heard how loud that half empty stadium got during the last 30 secs after we recovered the fumble and kicked the FG!!! BTW: Didn’t Aso get his first pick in years at the end? Couldn’t tell who it was that picked it off!!!
November 23rd, 2009 at 6:05 am
Yep half=time adjustments really helped.Much credit 2 the defense…Morrisson is not a MLB as many have said.He always bites on the fake and doesnt make a play anyway,imo.Morrisson is our weak-spot,imo
November 23rd, 2009 at 6:09 am
Yup…he should be our SAM!
November 23rd, 2009 at 6:16 am
All day the announcers were saying Grads throws a “catchable” ball.Over and over and its true he does.Man I just think Dmac is gonna thrive with Grads as QB.I mean Fargas even ran the ole 29 quick-pitch Man I JUST LOVE THAT PLAY!!!.This is about the most fun Sunday I,we had in a long time,imo
JUST PLAIN FUN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
November 23rd, 2009 at 6:19 am
A WELL EARNED VICTORY IF THERE EVER WAS ONE!!!
November 23rd, 2009 at 6:25 am
Happy Monday today.
Anyone knows if Seymour injury is significant?
Still, Richardson and Bryant did a solid job playing in for Seymour
November 23rd, 2009 at 6:27 am
Yes it was!!! That last TD with Murphy as he fought to get to the goal line…that is what we need! So much for that falling down on the one yard line…LOL
November 23rd, 2009 at 6:29 am
We can beat Dallas, they are not that good this season.
They had a lot of trouble yestarday against Redskins, and the Skins are 3-7 like we are. Dallas won only by 1, 7-6.
November 23rd, 2009 at 6:29 am
Richardson played lights out!!!
There was a play in the 2nd qt.where the Cincy RB ran off RE and was gonna get about 30yards but Richardson galloped down the field and stop him 4 about an 11 yard pick up!!!That play summed up the BIG DEFSNSE yesterday,imo
take daughter 2 work BBL NATION!!!
November 23rd, 2009 at 6:29 am
Despite win, Cowboys have issues
The Cowboys’ late touchdown to get the win doesn’t mask their recent offensive futility. The unit was out of sync and the much-maligned receiving corps was held in check for much of the day. Though the rushing attack came to life, the Cowboys’ inability to muster a balanced attack allowed the Redskins to control the tempo of the game. If Dallas continues to get minimal contributions from its pass-catchers, it will have a tough time competing with the elite teams in the NFC.
– Bucky Brooks
November 23rd, 2009 at 6:30 am
Hwndr,
Yup Nmamdi got his pick.
Trailing 14-0, it seemed like a game to toss in the towel, like so many others. Than Bruce engineered a 70 drive towards the end of the half, and we had a ballgame. A very exciting, passionatly played ballgame, on both sides.
Tyvon Branch is working towards a PB selection in the future. With Ed Reed and Troy P set as the PB safeties in the AFC it will be tough, but Troy is hurt so Branch may get the chance this year. He was out of his mind yesterday.
November 23rd, 2009 at 6:31 am
Richardson played lights out!!!
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He stopped Larry Johnson for a 3 or 4 yards loss on first L.Johnson carry
November 23rd, 2009 at 6:33 am
Tyvon Branch is for real, and Michael Huff is playing at a Pro Bowl level this season.
Huff is impresive in coverage, and his tackling is much better than it was before.
November 23rd, 2009 at 6:35 am
Can’t wait to hear all the crying on KNBR or NINERS personal channel they have nothing but jackasses on air .
November 23rd, 2009 at 6:37 am
Safety play is a bright spot in our defense for the first time in a long time, maybe since Rod Woodson retired
November 23rd, 2009 at 6:55 am
Isn’t it amazing how we have the same team, just different qb? Amazing how one different field general can make a difference, huh? The O showed spark and the D got their rest as needed. Good question that someone posted earlier…how bad is Seymour’s injury?
November 23rd, 2009 at 7:15 am
I can’t believe there are still people who believe Jamarcus could make it in the NFL. He’s a stiff, and he leads the league in fumbles!
November 23rd, 2009 at 7:22 am
The D is definitely solid right now. Marshall needs to tighten it up on 3rd and long. Teams pick that up against us way too many times. And the guys need to stop allowing a 50+ yard run or screen pass every week. But it seems like there aren’t any holes on that side of the ball where it’s like we NEED to replace this guy or that guy. I love our secondary right now. Nnamdi, CJ, Branch and Huff are all playing at a high level. The d-line is getting a push and much more physical than in years past.
This means that in the draft we can focus on drafting the best OL, WR or QB in the top-10, unless there’s a can’t-miss prospect somewhere else who just blows us away.
November 23rd, 2009 at 7:26 am
Here’s what scares me vs. Dallas:
- DeMarcus Ware
- Their running game
The o-line is going to have to step up big-time if we’re to have any shot in this one. And the D needs to be aggressive vs. the run but also avoid giving up the big running plays.
November 23rd, 2009 at 7:28 am
It seems our defense when pressed against our own goal-line is the best defense we play.I wonder what the % is against our D in red zone???
November 23rd, 2009 at 7:29 am
And Richardson slappin L;Johnson was great I agree El Tato
November 23rd, 2009 at 7:29 am
Chris in NY,
We need to look at a LB in the first-round, IMO. Our 3rd LB changes almsot every week, and that is why we give up these screens and long-runs, again IMO.
Lacking a physical presence. Kirk is solid in the pile, and Howard makes his plays, but nobody is intimidating anyone out there, and none of them are very good blitzers.
November 23rd, 2009 at 7:30 am
sup nation? nice game yesterday
November 23rd, 2009 at 7:31 am
And can we get a guy who know how to return kicks.
JLH is shook, I don’t know what happened to him, but he is making a B-line for the sidelines on all his punts. He sucks so bad, that I was generally excited when he had a 7 yard return in the second half.
Holland……boy he isn’t very good, and never seems to get out of third gear. Anything past the 25 is bonus these days.
November 23rd, 2009 at 7:36 am
Morning 408!!!
In Bruce we believe
November 23rd, 2009 at 7:37 am
I thought Kirk was is our glaring weak-spot.Dosent stick his head in a developing hole…bites on every fake…he know he got help around him and instead of flying head 1st into ball-carrier he bites on fake allowing 4 or 5 or 6 more yards.MLB is what we really need,imo
November 23rd, 2009 at 7:38 am
Hey 408!!!
November 23rd, 2009 at 7:38 am
And with Ike always getting banged up…we need some gunners on ST!
As for our D, yup, I am one who is tired of giving up long TD plays to running backs on one play. Take away that 61 yarder, we held Cinci in check at the running game!
November 23rd, 2009 at 7:40 am
I agree Vegas…down 14-zipp and we was only getting warmed up…Big Win against best team in AFC!!!! The NATION RE-JOYCE-ETH!!! =)
November 23rd, 2009 at 7:41 am
We won baby! The D pulled it out! Grad was ok, nothing spectacular, but hey, it’s his first start…so Grad’s first start: 17/34, 183, 2 td 1 int….Gannon’s first start 16/31, 227, 0 td 1 int… I bet MR was in here back in ‘99 bytching about Gannon (34) not being the future and how everything sucks, etc…. A win is a win baby, I friggin enjoyed it! The D was awesome!
November 23rd, 2009 at 7:42 am
hey guys I was walkin round the mall wit a lil am radio yesterday it was laughs..
November 23rd, 2009 at 7:44 am
Well, hey, we won!
November 23rd, 2009 at 7:45 am
…and KC takes out Pitt, lol…go AFC West!
November 23rd, 2009 at 7:47 am
Feels great 2 say we WON!!!
WE WON WE WON WE WON WE WON WE WON WE WON WE WON WE WON
November 23rd, 2009 at 7:48 am
That one surprised me, Dakota!
November 23rd, 2009 at 7:49 am
and Ochocinco didnt jump in the black hole.. Nnamdi SHUTS DOWN!!!
November 23rd, 2009 at 7:50 am
Why you at the mall 408 wid a lil am???
November 23rd, 2009 at 7:52 am
408RAIDER Says:
November 23rd, 2009 at 7:49 am
and Ochocinco didnt jump in the black hole.. Nnamdi SHUTS DOWN!!!
I think Ocho would have gotten puncho if he jumped there…
November 23rd, 2009 at 7:52 am
And the Lakers rolled too.
The days win both those teams win on the same day are RARE!
November 23rd, 2009 at 7:52 am
4sure-o
November 23rd, 2009 at 7:53 am
Wassup Vegas, Dakota, 4eva, Hwnrdr, and all …
Are you waiting until Tuesday Dakota? lol!
November 23rd, 2009 at 7:53 am
Other than the Raiders winning…watching San Diego put Denver in their place, at Denver, was nice.
As much as I hate San Diego, I hate Denver much more.
November 23rd, 2009 at 7:53 am
4eva
I got stuck there with my nice and my sister so I bought a lil radio so I could hear the game..
November 23rd, 2009 at 7:54 am
hwnrdr
or @ least a beer bath!!!
November 23rd, 2009 at 7:55 am
Vegas,
Did you lose your mind at the 1 minute mark when DMAC barely got that 1 yd for the first down?
AGAIN?
Well at least Cable didn’t blow 20 seconds thinking about whether to call a timeout.
Cable is getting better. Just needs an OC and playcaller so he can focus on game management.
November 23rd, 2009 at 7:56 am
hey I finally agree with Dakota ^^^^^^^ on something… WOW
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As much as I hate San Diego, I hate Denver much more.
November 23rd, 2009 at 7:56 am
Way 2 go 408 and now ya got a lil am 4 next time =)
November 23rd, 2009 at 7:57 am
Oh, the way the Black Hole was acting yesterday…one would not know that it was only half full! But knowing his dumb arse…then he would have cried about it, or call up Mr.Davis and say I want to be here…LOL! Haha!
November 23rd, 2009 at 7:58 am
The only thing that brought me down last night, is when espn put up the AFC playoff hopefuls and there was a few 4-6 teams that made the screen.
Man if we could have beat the sorry Chiefs, we could have made the page and been only 2 games out of the 6th seed!!!!!
November 23rd, 2009 at 7:58 am
jhill Says:
November 23rd, 2009 at 7:53 am
Wassup Vegas, Dakota, 4eva, Hwnrdr, and all …
Are you waiting until Tuesday Dakota? lol!
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Well, I figure with the Holiday and all…why bother? The Bungles were back…but hey, we won!
November 23rd, 2009 at 7:58 am
wow, it was refreshing watching an offense that actually had a hitch in their step. You see what happens when someone is in there that knows what is going on and takes control of the team? And someone who is in there that doesn’t weigh 270 and moves like molasses with a brick for a brain?
November 23rd, 2009 at 8:00 am
Vegas
slow down there buddy
??playoffs?? (herm edwards voice) ??playoffs??
November 23rd, 2009 at 8:00 am
I still wish we would run a reverse for DHB, and use him in the slot. They threw him the ball a lot yesterday and he didn’t beat Hall or Joseph 1 time. If you keep it real, that PI call he drew should have been on him. Grads is not going to shine with DHB having to go against top corners each week. Cable should think about creating a mismatch to get him on a LB, S, or nickle corner.
We need an OC!
November 23rd, 2009 at 8:01 am
yay Marquis Cooper wherever you roam these days.
November 23rd, 2009 at 8:01 am
Dakota,
I agree. I despise the Donks much more.
November 23rd, 2009 at 8:02 am
jhill Says:
November 23rd, 2009 at 7:55 am
Vegas,
Did you lose your mind at the 1 minute mark when DMAC barely got that 1 yd for the first down?
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I thought the scenario was ripe for a draw, 3rd and 1 we had to get the first, and could have spiked it or called a timeout afterwards. So I think it was the right call….and because I am in a good mood I will say Darren got the job done, albeit barely, but he did.
The last two weeks Cable has been very aggressive calling timeouts on D at the end of the first half. Worked into a 57 yard FG attempt yesterday, even though he missed, he is putting a lot of faith and showing confidence in both the O to get points and the D to get the stop.
November 23rd, 2009 at 8:03 am
3 penalties for 13 yards. The zebras had no say.
November 23rd, 2009 at 8:03 am
408,
Not saying we would make the playoffs, but it would be nice that after week 11 we at least could be “in the mix” somewhat.
Baby-steps my man, baby-steps
November 23rd, 2009 at 8:04 am
M
yeah are these our raiders??? only 3 flags???
November 23rd, 2009 at 8:06 am
Sweet, if we can go 9-7 I bet cable will keep his job. I bet you would all love that.
November 23rd, 2009 at 8:07 am
I got to go to work, but I am going to leave you with this one…….
9-7 is still out there.
(Just kidding, but it is fun to say)
November 23rd, 2009 at 8:07 am
You didn’t answer the question Vegas, lol!
I would have loved to see your reaction when that play unfolded. It was NOT clear that he got the first down, and he was a half of a foot from NOT making it.
I am ROTFLMFAO right now!
Cmon, bruh! You KNOW you were seconds from blowing a gasket. Or shall I say, less than a foot. I could just imagine your DMAC rant had he not got that half a foot. Like you say, it was RIPE, and he BARELY got a yard.
November 23rd, 2009 at 8:08 am
I know we been saying wait till next year for 2 long…but Cable and the team will be improved and we make that page next year Vegas.Gonna have 2B a better field-general 2 take the job from Grads,imo and I dont see anyone on the horizon.
We suffered 2 fumbles and an interception but every time we had the ball except once we moved the chains.And when we didnt score after moving the chains Lechler pinned em deep.The offense is gonna open up more and more as Grads gets comfortable,Dmac only had 10 yards receiving but he gotta start somewhere.Look 4 Dmac 2 thrive with Grads,imo
November 23rd, 2009 at 8:08 am
maddenraiderfan Says:
November 23rd, 2009 at 8:06 am
Sweet, if we can go 9-7 I bet cable will keep his job. I bet you would all love that.
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LMAO,
If Cable does that he’ll deserve an instant spot in the HOF.
November 23rd, 2009 at 8:09 am
M,
I was actually saying all game “Damn, I can’t believe that call went our way!” Very unRaider like day with the refs. Felt good.
November 23rd, 2009 at 8:10 am
Watching the Broncos shove each other on the sidelines was fun too!
November 23rd, 2009 at 8:12 am
was it me, or did chaz look to be limping on the incomplete a few plays before his last catch of the game?
November 23rd, 2009 at 8:13 am
4eva,
Your stuff is better than mine b/c I didn’t see half the stuff you mention, lol.
The offense moved the chains? When?
Held the ball? Defense well rested?
Cincy had the ball for 40 minutes to our 20.
November 23rd, 2009 at 8:13 am
Dakota you’ll never believe this but…I’ve just been commissioned to create a bust of Tom Cable from some weird sounding company in Ohio or somewhere like that =)
November 23rd, 2009 at 8:13 am
Morning Nation,
Listening to the donkey fans ripping the team apart out here is a nice change.
November 23rd, 2009 at 8:14 am
New England,
Yup. And it was noticeable. Props to him for sticking it out. He made that big 4th and 10 catch on the last drive. Imagine that pass going to DHB instead? ugghhh!
November 23rd, 2009 at 8:15 am
I need to see that! I heard Knowswhan (sp?) fumbled on the 1 and him and Marshall got into it…can you say MELTDOWN?!
November 23rd, 2009 at 8:15 am
lets give some props to the mop handle. he has played well since returning. satele is also much better now that he’s stopped his head bobbing
November 23rd, 2009 at 8:17 am
JHill, yes, but more rested than in the past…Not much, but we didn’t go 3 and out too much!
November 23rd, 2009 at 8:17 am
Jhill Cincy had the ball most of the 1st half then we roughly split the second half.We had 16 1st downs so 2me we really was moving the chains.Maybe we only had the ball a third of the game but we havnt had 16 1st downs in a long time
November 23rd, 2009 at 8:17 am
Hey…at least McFadden is the most productive of the three first round disappointments!
Gooooo McFadden! 6 carries yesterday!
3rd and 1 draw play? Yikes Cable!
November 23rd, 2009 at 8:18 am
Priesttj got tickets for 16 yr old…we had 16 first downs he he he!!!
November 23rd, 2009 at 8:19 am
thx j hill i thought something didnt look right when he motioned. he looked like he was hurting. hope he can go this week after a rather quick turn around. he ate up dallas in 1st qrtr of preseason game 1. 5 catches in a quarter. like to see chaz and murphy start. or at least some 3 wr sets with dhb in the slot. granted murphy has dropped a lot of balls, but he seems to get open a lot more frquently than dhb
November 23rd, 2009 at 8:21 am
4evaRaider Says:
November 23rd, 2009 at 8:13 am
Dakota you’ll never believe this but…I’ve just been commissioned to create a bust of Tom Cable from some weird sounding company in Ohio or somewhere like that =)
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4eva…that was the Ohio State Penitentiary and the bust must include the date, time, and the number 625-457981 for processing purposes.
Cable once “dated” a woman in Ohio and now they are catching up with him.
November 23rd, 2009 at 8:21 am
That 3rd and 1 call was tough. Why line up in a power formation with your weakest RB?
November 23rd, 2009 at 8:23 am
lmao!!! Dakota =)
November 23rd, 2009 at 8:24 am
actually dmac although not to productive, has been lowering shoulder and going thru the tackler, instead of tripping on hash marks. like to see a lil more of that from him.
November 23rd, 2009 at 8:25 am
I don’t know guys. I think I am like the defense in that I feel it is 100% on them and the STs to win the games for us. The thing that stands out to me from yesterday is the red zone defense. 3 trips deep into the red zone, and we hold them to 3 pts. That was OUTSTANDING! STs coming up with a big fumble recovery was huge.
I give the offense all the credit in the world for finding away to overcome a 4th and 10, with under a minute to go down 7 points, and win the game.
But let’s be honest. It’s going to be our defense that carries us, while the offense comes along.
November 23rd, 2009 at 8:26 am
Last year DMAC split out wide and caught some passes. I’d like to see him out in open space a little more.
November 23rd, 2009 at 8:27 am
mitchell played good on the series he played early. (1st td for cinci). he came up made a good tackle, covered a guy in endzone and then only see the field on our return game. while eugene was out there in 4th qrtr and on st’s kickoff & punts. why?????????????????????
November 23rd, 2009 at 8:29 am
I’ve read that Mitchell struggles in coverage. He seems to stuff the run well in the red zone.
November 23rd, 2009 at 8:30 am
I agree with that Jhill.A good MLB will make other teams punt instead of trying for F/G’s.Red Zone D has been waay above average so far this year,imo
November 23rd, 2009 at 8:31 am
Local news said earlier Kyle Orton wore a boot last night. If he doesn’t play against the G-Men, I think the Donks lose by a fortyburger.
November 23rd, 2009 at 8:32 am
i dont think he is on the field enough to tell if he does struggle or not. ive watched every minute of every game, and altho he doesnt play often, i can remember him allowing any catches to anyone. he covered slot wr yest in end zone. eugene we all have seen struggle in coverage and is too small to tackle. im not on mitchells jock colorado, i just happen to think that from what ive seen, he should be on field b4 eugene. he is constantly around the ball st’s and the few series he gets to play
November 23rd, 2009 at 8:34 am
Just going by what I’ve read. I agree with you though. Would like to see him on the field more.
November 23rd, 2009 at 8:35 am
this is the team I felt we had all along…Like when Dakotas best friend Tom would say we ready 2 turn the corner,I can just feel it.Yep turning the corner was as easy as switching QB’s,yesterday anyway.Sure Grads will have some set backs but no total regressions like Jmac,imo
November 23rd, 2009 at 8:35 am
a lot of people on here have talked a lot of shyt about money warren. i think he’s much better than tommy kelly. kelly makes 3x what warren does. i see warren in the backfield a lot. doesnt make a lot of plays, but gives a helluva lot better effort than kelly
November 23rd, 2009 at 8:36 am
I want some of Greg Ellis’s surgery…holy crap he was getting off on the snap yesterday.
He looked like a young buck.
If that guy shows up the rest of the way …look out.
Think he might be jacked about Thursdays game?
November 23rd, 2009 at 8:36 am
What’s the word on Seymour?
November 23rd, 2009 at 8:38 am
Warren just seems to blow shyt up. What puzzles me is on 3rd and lone, they play zone, rush 3 and drop Warren into coverage. He’s 350! How much area can he cover?
November 23rd, 2009 at 8:38 am
16 1st downs will keep your defense rested,imo
November 23rd, 2009 at 8:41 am
I know it has already been mentioned on this site, but how ’bout that Robbo prevent defense yesterday. Between Mangidiot and Robbo the fans in Cleveland must be ready to set fire to the river and throw those boys in the flames.
ColoradoRaiderFan,
anybody in Colorocky using the words genius and Josh in the same sentence these days?
November 23rd, 2009 at 8:41 am
yup colorado i jumped off the couch yesterday when warren dropped back on that 3rd down.
November 23rd, 2009 at 8:42 am
Just enough 2 beat the AFC’s best team,barely.Lots of work left 2 do but we no longer have our tail in the air and our head in the sand
November 23rd, 2009 at 8:42 am
Perfect example yesterday of a fast finesse defense out quicking the mammoth O-line.
This is also a good matchup against the Cowboys who are a big power line.
I’m hoping the short week does not take the jump out of Warren and Ellis’s legs.
They were off the line sooo fast yeasterday.
November 23rd, 2009 at 8:45 am
NewEnglandRaider,
as for Mitchell, I wonder if the coaching staff interprets his pass coverage development as needing work. A good QB like Carson could give a pump fake or look-away to rookie, have him bite and then it’s sayonara six.
November 23rd, 2009 at 8:46 am
Benson and Seymour kinda X themselves out,imo.Not 2 bad for a 1st start not 2 bad at all
November 23rd, 2009 at 8:46 am
tommy kelly is one of the highest pd dts in the nfl. maybe he need another off season for his knee to fully heal. that being said nothing about this guy impresses me. nothing. he seems to just go thru the motions, doesnt seem to be trying very hard, always looks gassed. if we are gonna cut one of our high priced players this off season, it should be him. no way does he deserve the $ he is making. i think he was better earlier in career when he would plat de instaed of dt
November 23rd, 2009 at 8:50 am
The McGibblets bandwagon out here is broke down on the side of the road. That onside attempt in the third put him in the Mangini category.
November 23rd, 2009 at 8:50 am
m lonetree, u would have to agree though, that hiram eugene is lost more often than not. and when he has help responsibilities he is often very very late in arriving. and he can not tackle for shyt. am i wrong????????
November 23rd, 2009 at 8:52 am
i like the way huff and branch have been playing, very solid all yr. i dont think mm should take any playing time away from those two. but he should be on the field b4 eugene.
November 23rd, 2009 at 8:53 am
NewEnglandRaider,
I do not disagree with your points about Hiram. Just don’t know if the coaches feel they can hand the keys to Mike at this point. Tyvon, on the other hand, wow.
November 23rd, 2009 at 9:02 am
ColoradoRaiderFan,
does the soul good to know that the donks haven’t won in over a month.
November 23rd, 2009 at 9:03 am
man i thought 4 sure ellis would get a roughing the passer on that sack. i remember warren throwing a qb to the turf exactly like that last yr and gettin flagged
November 23rd, 2009 at 9:03 am
2romes Says:
November 23rd, 2009 at 8:55 am
Gritty Raider victory!!!! Chaz, thanks for showing up at 75% and making a hugh difference. Murphy has skills and should recognized as the # 2 reciever, Chaz #1 when healthy. The Raiders are learning the hard way money does not always make the player.The player must earn the position through hard work and dedication and should not be expected to be treated as royalty because of what the Raider organization thinks he can achieve.
I don’t care what color the win comes from as long as the Raiders win.I like the position the Raiders are taking, put the best man in there to get the win. I would think it would be that simple for Raiders fans.In my opinion, Russell had and still has a fair shot at starting if he is the best player.
Enjoy the win Raiders fans. Wins in the NFL don’t come easy.
Raiders Be With You.
November 23rd, 2009 at 9:13 am
Yep a bitter and very expensive pill 2 swallow…but it appears Big Al has
November 23rd, 2009 at 9:15 am
I bask in the silence the day after a Donkey loss. Couple that with a Raider win. What a great day. It even stopped snowing and the sun came out.
Today is a good day.
November 23rd, 2009 at 9:18 am
Good It Is and very MUCH needed 4 ALL
November 23rd, 2009 at 9:19 am
somebody asked yesterday about how russell handled the win he was the first one out and was gone before the stadium was empty i see what you guys are saying about him needing to grow up and it makes sense i was just trying to say that if he had the same circumstances as grad he could have won that game too it reminded me of the eagles game not to take anything away from him it was a good game and im glad we won
November 23rd, 2009 at 9:23 am
16yearsold16yearfan Says:
November 23rd, 2009 at 9:19 am
somebody asked yesterday about how russell handled the win he was the first one out and was gone before the stadium was empty i see what you guys are saying about him needing to grow up and it makes sense i was just trying to say that if he had the same circumstances as grad he could have won that game too it reminded me of the eagles game not to take anything away from him it was a good game and im glad we won
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Very wise for such a young man…
November 23rd, 2009 at 9:24 am
ColoradoRaiderFan Says:
November 23rd, 2009 at 9:15 am
I bask in the silence the day after a Donkey loss. Couple that with a Raider win. What a great day. It even stopped snowing and the sun came out.
Today is a good day.
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Being in Southwestern South Dakota and only 4 hours from Colorado I am surrounded by Bronco fans…may they all rot in hell.
muhahahaha
November 23rd, 2009 at 9:27 am
wow branch had 12 tackles a sack a forced fumble and he broke up a td hes a beast
November 23rd, 2009 at 9:40 am
Mike Mitchell had one tackle and DHB had one catch!
2009 draft really paying dividends.
November 23rd, 2009 at 9:43 am
Jeeez, I guess the media has Charlie Weis already fired…I thought there was still a game to go?
Charlie Weis for Raiders OC!
(and draft Clausen to run the offense!)
November 23rd, 2009 at 9:46 am
Raider Dell Says:
November 16th, 2009 at 9:43 am
I’ll let you all continue on the obvious blame for the players that you think are holding the team back from any hope of winning.
I’m going to at least post a positive comment on some players that don’t throw or catch the football.
Mattt Shaughnessey is the real deal. I was at the game and he is starting to dominate. The young man needs a year of weight training and some technique to his position. He is holding the point of attack, and is a better pass rusher since camp opened in July. Big improvement for the Defensive line. Matt Shaughnessey can dominate, it’s the work and time for this player.
Tyvon Branch has been discussed, not to the degree he should have been. Tyvon tackles well, improved from last year, his cover skills are excellent and he is playing up to a high standard from last year.
Tyvon can read defenses and understands what the team is asking him to cover and compete at that position.
Tyvon is still a gunner on punt returns also, and is excellent there to.
Brandon Myers who was not activated for the first four games is a good blocker and receiver. Watching him on our running plays he has been able to lead on the point of attack and runs better routes than most would have guessed. Plays great special teams. Myers is on the field, Zach Miller has been doubled by most teams, unless Myers is on the field. Zach Miller is free to pass protect less and has been in the pass pattern more often.
Desmond Bryant needs to gain weight through lifting weights. Bryant can hold the point of attack, and is a very good pass rusher from the Defensive tackle position. Looks to be wearing down and the off season weight conditioning should help improve his time on the field. My impressions are he is very similar to Richard Seymour, with his determination and never give up attitude.
Mike Mitchell is always looking to hit somebody. He is fun to watch on special teams. He is advertised as this blog commented about last spring. The Raiders currently interchange their safetys. I hope he is ready to play more next year, his physical nature in the box or the strong safety will be a better physical presence we desperately need.
I’ll let you guys continue to shout out you hatred for the others, but some players are playing better than some of you thought.
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Comment from last week. Stop looking at one person who is obviously holding back the team. There are other players improving and will be better. Not all of our drafts are a bust. I think we should tell AL the first round is really round 3 or six. He will get a good player.
November 23rd, 2009 at 9:49 am
O give Jerry Jones where the Raiders will roam
An unpalatable Thanksgiving Day,
Where nothing is heard but the boos from the birds
And McFadden outrushes Felix all day
Rom Rom plays like mange
With pick sixes on every play
Where nothing is heard but the boos from the birds
And McFadden outrushes Felix all day
(Traditional)
November 23rd, 2009 at 9:55 am
To all of you who wanted to see the Coliseum empty, it was close. I decided to go. I’m a member of Raider Nation! I’m there good and bad. Call me stupid or whatever childish name you can think of, that was a game I ‘ll never forget.
We were a 11 point underdog at home, against a team that had beaten Pitt twice and Ravens twice, top 10 defense, top 15 offense.
They played hard, no less without Seymour for the entire game on defense.
The big “IFFFFFF” when we get this offense worked out and the players play like yesterday, or like the Philly game or SD game this team will win consistently.
The defense is better and as a unit plying better than anytime last year.
Get the D off the field and you’ll see a top 10 defense. The offense can move the ball and create enough movement this team will be on the field less and won’t be giving up big plays as much.
November 23rd, 2009 at 9:55 am
I said it last week that my gut feeling was that Grad would inspire this team, good win. Now Dallas r playing bad, we need to shut down Austin who is on the left side of the field which means he will be matched up with CJ I don’t know why can’t asmough shadow the best wrs? If we shut down Austin game will be over as Homo will keep throwing it to Witten. We also need to stop the run, F Jones will motivated to play against his friend Mcfumble. Go Raiders win win win
November 23rd, 2009 at 9:56 am
# Dakota Says:
November 23rd, 2009 at 9:40 am
Mike Mitchell had one tackle and DHB had one catch!
2009 draft really paying dividends.
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Dakota:
Point well taken.
With that being said, I really do believe in the “3-year” rule when it comes to the NFL draft.
Look at the list of players below:
In my opinion, they’re all good players.
But, I don’t think any of their 1st actual playing years in the league had anyone jumping up and down.
Mario Henderson,
Tyvon Branch,
Johnnie Lee Higgins,
Michael Bush,
Jay Richardson,
Oren O’Neal (yeah, I still think he’ll be a Raider again – and a good one)
Darren McFadden,
Trevor Scott,
Chaz Schilens
Sure, some of these examples are better than others, but, the point is that every one of them showed you enough to believe that there’s something there.
The year’s not even over, so I personally am not even close to declaring DHB or Mitchell as bad picks.
I know I sound stupid in saying this, but, I’m the only human being on the planet that believes DHB will prove to be a better receiver than Crabnuts.
Crabnuts is a reincarnation of Keyshawn Johnson (slow but good possession receiver). He ain’t gonna get any faster.
DHB has started running some really good routes. Pass-cathing has a ton to do with confidence. And just as Cliff Branch did in his 3rd year, I think DHB will figure it out sooner than later.
And when he does, that speed will be a serious weapon that you CAN’T teach.
I’ve got the same belief in this kid that you do in D-MAC.
I also think D-MAC will be great when it’s all said and done.
But if I was going to adopt the “what have you done for me” theory, I could easily declare D-Mac a bust as well.
November 23rd, 2009 at 9:59 am
Dakota
You can let er “rip”. Many problems still need to work out on offense. I’m pleased with the two tightend offense. The players blocked well and all of the tightends can catch.
You DHB guys who can’t stand him, and have called him everything you can think off. The guys works his ass off during the game, prior to the game and has emotion on the field. Everything you wish Jamarcus had.
I will not call this guy a bust yet, if he continues to work the production will be there, he wants to get better. His actions show me he cares and yes he knows he is being criticized.
November 23rd, 2009 at 10:00 am
Raider Dell:
I was there as well.
And it was great to see the fans happy. And it was great to NOT hear any of those stupid “boos”.
And I still say our 34,000 make more noise than a Whiner crowd of 65,000.
And NO. You are NOT stupid for being a fan.
You are NOT stupid for being there.
You’re a Raider fan. You love football and, at the end of the day, that’s what this is all about.
November 23rd, 2009 at 10:03 am
# DKnight007 Says:
November 23rd, 2009 at 12:23 am
Gradkowski should be kept in there for rest of the year….until he screws up badly and costs wins…..like what Russell was doing before, costing the team wins by playing terribly.
Russell also needs to start showing that he is serious about being a leader, hard worker and being a winner.
That means he needs to use all that money he doesn’t deserve on a personal trainer and lose 15-20 pounds and get in the best shape of his life and put in long hours of studying film instead of spending that undeserved money on drinking, bling, and just flat out being lazy.
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I totally agree.
November 23rd, 2009 at 10:05 am
My biggest laugh, is the guys commenting to all to see on this blog, to not go and attend the game.
The thinking was to embarass Davis. Yet I read this morning the previous threads and some of the same tools were upset they couldn’t find the game on the internet. I see you don’t want us to go to the game, yet you guys are looking for bootleg sites to watch. You guys are insane and quite funny.
November 23rd, 2009 at 10:08 am
Branch=Pro Bowl
November 23rd, 2009 at 10:12 am
Right now people are looking at this win as an anomaly. Sort of, ‘what did the Bengals do wrong?’ rather than giving the Raiders credit for being good enough to beat just about anyone with competent play at the QB position. Beat Dallas on Thursday and that will change.
November 23rd, 2009 at 10:13 am
Jerry are you going to leave this blog up all day? Could use a fix please
November 23rd, 2009 at 10:15 am
It occurs to me that what Darrius Heyward-Bey needs is hypnotherapy. There is nothing wrong with his physical skills, but the vapor lock in his brain discourages his hands.
KidSeven,
Nnamdi had to be the best corner in the game for years before he made the Pro Bowl. Anti-Raider bias will on Tyvon as well.
November 23rd, 2009 at 10:15 am
Some pleasant observations that I made from my seat yesterday:
1. On just about every occasion that Gradkowski came to the sideline, JaMarcus was there to greet him, to cheer him on, and to offer his insights.
JaMarcus could have reacted one of two ways to his benching: Sulk or learn from it.
Well, if yesterday was any indication, he wants to learn and get better.
He was totally engaged with the coaches & players during the whole game.
And on the last drive, he was waving a towel in support of his teamates.
Call it sappy if you want, but, I think it showed a lot of maturity & heart from a young kid who’s struggled with maturity since he’s entered the league.
Good stuff.
Keep it up JaMarcus.
Keep watching.
Keep working.
Keep learning.
November 23rd, 2009 at 10:16 am
Raider Dell Says:
November 23rd, 2009 at 9:59 am
Dakota
You can let er “rip”.
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Nope, not this time…the holidays are here! Time to give thanks…even for ugly wins with fortuitous moments!
I just hope we catch the Cowboys off guard on Thursday…
November 23rd, 2009 at 10:17 am
Silver-n-Smac says;
I also think D-MAC will be great when it’s all said and done.
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Hey…maybe we can be friends!
November 23rd, 2009 at 10:25 am
Dakota:
Hey man. They’re all Raiders. We all have our favorites, but, let’s hope they’re ALL ultimately great.
Why would we want any of the NOT to succeed?
I personally love Fargas. I love everything he represents with his play. He’s my 2nd favorite Raider of all time for those reasons alone.
He has less talent than D-Mac & Bush but I really believe his work ethic and appreciation for the game is going to do D-Mac & Bush a lot of good.
But frankly, I don’t give a rat’s ass which of the 3 gets the starting nod. I want the guy who gives us the best chance to succeed. They’re all good.
I just happen to favor Huggy.
Friends? Hell, why not?!
November 23rd, 2009 at 10:26 am
I also recall some of the comments last year when Ochocinco was trying to get out in Cinn. They were lobbying hard for Davis to trade for him. I was amused by his wednesday talk to the media and his upright team first talk and praising the Raiders team.
I saw I guy yesterday hang his head and become frustrated.
For the record Ochocinco caught 4 balls for 67 yards, three were in zone coverage and one against Nnamdi.
I stopped counting by the end of the third quarter, he lined up against Nnamdi for 36 snaps.
Finally at the games end he was quoted how they the Bengals should have never loss to the Raiders. Ocho cinco you should of said that wednesday during the media session, you phoney bastard.
November 23rd, 2009 at 10:32 am
# Dakota Says:
November 23rd, 2009 at 9:24 am
ColoradoRaiderFan Says:
November 23rd, 2009 at 9:15 am
I bask in the silence the day after a Donkey loss. Couple that with a Raider win. What a great day. It even stopped snowing and the sun came out.
Today is a good day.
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Being in Southwestern South Dakota and only 4 hours from Colorado I am surrounded by Bronco fans…may they all rot in hell.
muhahahaha
…………
I live in Northeast Texas about 2 hours from Dallas. My WHOLE family (mom,dad,aunts,uncles,cousins) are all huge Cowboys fans. Plus everyone else around here.
Will be at the big Family Thanksgiving on Thurs and would love to see the Raiders pull out the win. Otherwise, I might end up punching a family member. lol
November 23rd, 2009 at 10:33 am
Silver-n-Smac Says:
November 23rd, 2009 at 10:25 am
I personally love Fargas. I love everything he represents with his play. He’s my 2nd favorite Raider of all time for those reasons alone.
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Jeezus H Krist, dude. How long have you been following the Raiders?
November 23rd, 2009 at 10:33 am
Ocho-Stinko needs to learn from Nnamdi and ‘Shut the Hell Up!”…
thought it was perfectly fitting to close the game on a Nnamdi pick…
November 23rd, 2009 at 10:39 am
Cincinnati Bengals wide receiver Chad Ochocinco has been around long enough to know a thing or two about succeeding in the NFL. His history tells him that the odds don’t favor Raiders rookie receiver Darrius Heyward-Bey.
Ochocinco wasn’t asked specifically about Heyward-Bey, but he left little doubt to whom he was referring when he spoke at length about sure hands. Ochocinco intimated the ability to catch is something a receiver is born with and that learning how to catch after reaching the NFL is a recipe for disaster.
You can’t be in the NFL and try to work on it now because it’s too late,” Ochocinco said in a conference call with Bay Area reporters. “You should be ready to play. You can’t come into the NFL and then they have to teach you how to play receiver.”
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Yet Al Davis keeps repeating this over and over and over and over and over and over and over……………..
November 23rd, 2009 at 10:40 am
It was nice to get a win, ecspecialy against a quality opponent. For the haters on this site that say the same thing would have happened with Russell in there, I have this to say- Jamarcus may be more physically gifted but he does not bring the energy, passion, leadership and overall caring.-He never will either. I am not here to say Grad is the 2nd coming, I am here to say It’s nice to see EFFORT and truly wanting to win, not oh well Burger King is still open.
Overall pretty good play by the Raiders-Just plz bench DHB already!
November 23rd, 2009 at 10:41 am
# Silver-n-Smac Says:
November 23rd, 2009 at 10:15 am
Some pleasant observations that I made from my seat yesterday:
1. On just about every occasion that Gradkowski came to the sideline, JaMarcus was there to greet him, to cheer him on, and to offer his insights.
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In other words, you’re gullible? Along with your silly Al Lovefest, makes you a dweeb.
Year 3. In all of the PREVIOUS GAMES JR has never pumped up anyone, ever. Acted all that. Prima Donna to the hilt. Couldn’t be bothered with anyone. Coordinators had to bring film to JR. He sat with his stupid beanie on.
Now? His sorryass is benched. After getting booed out of the stadium.
This is where his agent/coaches/friends give him advice on what you better do because your image is shot to hell. Yes, yes, I know..your gullible ass got all giddy that you saw your idol, JR, doing what HE SHOULD HAVE BEEN DOING FROM GAME ONE..because now..he HAS TO.
You remember his rookie year? DID JR EVEN ONCE SWING A TOWEL? hell no. Even ONCE meet a player come off the field to congratulate them? hell no.
Too little, too late..well, except for the fleas.
November 23rd, 2009 at 10:41 am
Catch Gradkowski winning games, baby!
November 23rd, 2009 at 10:42 am
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2009/11/23/cromarties-apparent-claim-the-bottle-slipped/
November 23rd, 2009 at 10:43 am
Silver-n-Smac Says:
November 23rd, 2009 at 10:25 am
I personally love Fargas. I love everything he represents with his play. He’s my 2nd favorite Raider of all time for those reasons alone.
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LMFAO…Fargas? 2nd favorite Raider of ALL TIME??
Justin Fargas?
Dude, you just lost total credibility regarding anything.
How in the hell can you list Fargas 2nd favorite of ALL TIME? Who’s your favorite?
Wait..let me guess….Rick Mirer, right?
November 23rd, 2009 at 10:45 am
At least Fargas comes out and runs 100 mpg unlike Burger King
November 23rd, 2009 at 10:46 am
Richocrap:
You’re just plain stupid man.
I’ve come to the realization that NOT responding to your brainless diatribes is NOT a sign of acknowledging that you’re right.
Rather, it’s the best way to simply ignore your ass and shut your ass up.
November 23rd, 2009 at 10:50 am
# Chris in NY Says:
November 23rd, 2009 at 10:12 am
Right now people are looking at this win as an anomaly. Sort of, ‘what did the Bengals do wrong?’ rather than giving the Raiders credit for being good enough to beat just about anyone with competent play at the QB position. Beat Dallas on Thursday and that will change.
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LOL..no, sorry Chris.
It was an anomaly.
How could it have not been? Yes, it’s a win, but do you not believe KC’s win against Pitts was an anomaly? Obviously Pitt is not as good as perceived, but losing to KC?
Bengals losing to the Raiders?
Was one of those ugly games that someone had to get a W.
Matters little that they fumbled away the game at the end, but it’s not like it was an earned win.
November 23rd, 2009 at 10:51 am
# KoolKell Says:
November 23rd, 2009 at 10:33 am
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Jeezus H Krist, dude. How long have you been following the Raiders?
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KoolKell:
Since 1977.
Read my words a bit more carefully.
I never said he was one of the BEST Raiders to ever play.
I said the way he plays the game is what it’s all about.
What – are you telling me you can think of a ton of Raiders that have EVER played any harder than Fargas?
To me, he reprents the Jim Otto-type of heart that is sorely lacking in today’s glam athlete.
I never said anything about his talent. But the guy has absolutely no regard for his body or well-being.
He gives it all up for his team on every play.
Are you seriously gonna argue this point?
November 23rd, 2009 at 10:53 am
lmao…some sissy typing on a key-board and saying it wasnt an “earned” win.
November 23rd, 2009 at 10:54 am
# Silver-n-Smac Says:
November 23rd, 2009 at 10:46 am
Richocrap:
You’re just plain stupid man.
I’ve come to the realization that NOT responding to your brainless diatribes is NOT a sign of acknowledging that you’re right.
Rather, it’s the best way to simply ignore your ass and shut your ass up.
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Dude, you were toast months ago.
What could you say?
SERIOUSLY, WHAT COULD YOU SAY?
You stupidly just stated that Fargas…FARGAS..is your second favorite Raider of all time.
In other words, AS I STATED BEFORE, YOU’RE NOT A RAIDER FAN.
Hell, YOU ADMITTED IT. YOU BECAME A “FAN” because of Al Davis. Not because of a player, or players, or wins, or challenges..it’s because of AL DAVIS. When Al dies, as YOU STATED, you’re out of here. You’re gone.
Fargas is your second favorite because you know SQUAT ABOUT THE RAIDERS, THE PLAYERS, AND THE HISTORY.
Of course you’ll shut up, and just allow me to walk all over you.
Why would you change now?
November 23rd, 2009 at 10:55 am
Silver n Mac post 178…i concur and good job bro. Can’t give attention to these attention whores.
November 23rd, 2009 at 10:58 am
hairybush how does it make people haters if they think jamarcus could do the same thing im happy with the win and i think jamarcus could have won it but im not a hater because i disagree with you
November 23rd, 2009 at 10:58 am
# 4evaRaider Says:
November 23rd, 2009 at 10:53 am
lmao…some sissy typing on a key-board and saying it wasnt an “earned” win.
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Wow.
The quiltpatch boy attempts to stand up.
4eva: “HI EVERYONE”
4eva: “Going to go shopping now..be back later”
4eva: “I’m kind of slow. What beer should I buy?”
4eva: “I love chick flicks. Anyone know any good ones?”
Stay in shallow end of pool, foolish child.
November 23rd, 2009 at 10:59 am
Richocrap:
First off – I’m being hypocritical by responding to you:
Oh well – gotta say it.
You are one negative, no good bastarddd. Why don’t you do us all a favor and either just ask your wife to give you some much-needed lovin’ or go hang yourself off the flag pole at Candlestick Park.
So pathetic man. You got nothing else to do than to sit here and whine like a little girl all day?
Get a life dude.
And PS – favorite Raider of all time is Marcus Allen.
Henry Lawrence was another good ‘character’. Love all that freakin’ tape all over the guy’s arms. Looked like someone just pulled him out of a trash can.
I know. . .
I know. . .
You can’t relate to any kind of nostalgia.
Like I said.
Go hang yourself. And tie MaddenRaider up with you.
November 23rd, 2009 at 11:00 am
lmao
November 23rd, 2009 at 11:01 am
Hey Richocrap,
If you wanna “walk all over” me, come on over to the Coliseum on Sundays dude.
November 23rd, 2009 at 11:01 am
# aig Says:
November 23rd, 2009 at 10:55 am
Silver n Mac post 178…i concur and good job bro. Can’t give attention to these attention whores.
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LMAO..Smac has been my lapdog for months. That will never change.
However, what you let me know is that no balls are required to be a Raider fan or post on a Raider board.
What your sorry ass hasn’t learned, yet, is that I dictate. I instruct. I school.
No reply is necessary. It’s a one way street, and I’m the driver.
You’ll learn, grasshopper.
What I like is when someone knows their limitations, and wisely avoids sticking their neck out.
Safer being meek, right? lol…
November 23rd, 2009 at 11:02 am
# aig Says:
November 23rd, 2009 at 10:55 am
Silver n Mac post 178…i concur and good job bro. Can’t give attention to these attention whores.
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Aig:
“attention whores”.
Perfect description.
November 23rd, 2009 at 11:05 am
Greatest thing about this win is the Backhanded Smack to JaMarcus’s Dome!
He NEEDED this team to lose yesterday to verify his claims that he “isn’t the problem’…Which sure, JR you aren’t the whole problem, but with your lazy ass approach to the game, you’re not the solution either. So just keep eating spitz, and bubble gum, while the ‘professionals’go out and play…
November 23rd, 2009 at 11:05 am
# Silver-n-Smac Says:
November 23rd, 2009 at 11:01 am
Hey Richocrap,
If you wanna “walk all over” me, come on over to the Coliseum on Sundays dude.
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lol…awww…what’s the matter? All frazzled now? Now you’re at the “I can’t think on my feet. Maybe I can act all badass online?” Is there anything sadder than someone acting all BADASS BEHIND A KEYBOARD?
First off, fool, there is no game on Sunday, MORON.
But hey, friday night, going to be at the Englander, on Parrott St, in San Leandro.
What color dress you going to have on?
Then you can regale everyone on how your sorry inept ass views Fargas as # 2 OF ALL TIME, and how you’re in fact, not a dweeb, just stupid as hell.
ok, pumpkin?
November 23rd, 2009 at 11:06 am
One of 2 things will happen on Thrusday. Either the Raiders will show up and eek out another close win, or they will not show up and get blown out just like the Giants. I am hoping for the first.
November 23rd, 2009 at 11:07 am
a win is a win is a win… Certainly better than a moral victory anyday….Looking forward to Thursday now. The girls are not that good.
November 23rd, 2009 at 11:07 am
Wow
I have been reading the posts from MR. Very ignorant and bigoted – can not see the obvious. Lets see Gradokowski had as many passing TDs in one game as rest of season? Gradokowski is not an average NFL QB but JR was terrible! He was so bad he was making the offense as bad as the ill coached 2006 offense and that is flat out terrible. JR as I watched him was probably the worst QB I have ever seen play in the NFL this year. He was one of the worst ever. Last year he was showing some promise at the end of the year but regressed. I guess he thought he arrived and did not need to prepare. No one is that good and JR is definitely not that good to pull that.
November 23rd, 2009 at 11:07 am
Tex, Thursday is extremely key to where we are headed. if we compete and win, I think we are back on track.
November 23rd, 2009 at 11:09 am
What to do about JR? Release him after april to spread out the cap effect? This guy make Akili Smith look good! At least Ryan Leaf was the second pick overall and AS was the third pick overall. Worst bust of all time – yet another Raider distiction.
November 23rd, 2009 at 11:10 am
Silver n Mac
Listen, if DHB becomes a decent player is not the question, it is the position and the money been given to him that matters. Somebody mentioned Meachem, Meachem was a 27th pick not 7th overall pick. When selecting a player that high you either get a Calvin Johnson or you get Troy Williamson. Now, DHB seems closer to Williamson then C Johnson. Just like Williamson, fast but cant catch. Even if DHB gets better, what numbers will he put up? 40 catches 500 yards 4 td numbers or 85 catches 1200 yards 10 tds thats the numbers a top ten pick produces. I will be honest DHB is Troy Williamson cousin.
November 23rd, 2009 at 11:10 am
Richocrap says:
“What your sorry ass hasn’t learned, yet, is that I dictate. I instruct. I school.”
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I’m sorry – WHO is the one being a “badass” on the keyboard??? LOL
You’re pathetic.
My point exactly.
I’ll say it again Richo:
If you wanna “own” me. . .
If you want me to be your “lapdog”
If you wannt “instruct” me. . . .
Come on out the Coliseum on Sundays.
As you said, talk is cheap on your little keyboard.
And yet, you keep doing it.
“What your sorry ass hasn’t learned, yet, is that I dictate. I instruct. I school.”
You’re pathetic.
November 23rd, 2009 at 11:11 am
Btw, whats wrong with Tony Romo? Is he going to start against us, some people are saying Kitna might start, any news?
November 23rd, 2009 at 11:12 am
# Silver-n-Smac Says:
November 23rd, 2009 at 10:59 am
Richocrap:
First off – I’m being hypocritical by responding to you:
RICHOCHET: No, what you mean to say is you’re weak. No backbone. No spine. No gumption. And no realization that you’re easy. We all already knew that.
Admit it..so did you.
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Oh well – gotta say it.
You are one negative, no good bastarddd. Why don’t you do us all a favor and either just ask your wife to give you some much-needed lovin’ or go hang yourself off the flag pole at Candlestick Park.
RICHOCHET: LMAO..dude..that was weak. Like 6th grade level weak. You need to slow down so you don’t come across as pathetic. Admit it..does that not sound juvenile dense to you?
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And PS – favorite Raider of all time is Marcus Allen.
RICHOCHET: And Fargas? WHO’S DONE NOTHING IN THE NFL, AND NOTHING FOR THE RAIDERS, AS IN EVER, is second? Not Dave Casper? Not Tooz? Not Snake? Not Otto? Not Lester?…Not Plunkett? No Belit?..etc etc etc….but Fargas?
Again, LMFAO at that dumber than cotton take.
Admit it..you feel stupid, don’t you?
HOW COULD YOU NOT? Damn..that is an instant head up your ass “I’m a fool” classic take, Smac.
AGAIN, YOU DON’T FOLLOW THE RAIDERS…YOU ADMITTED YOU BECAME A RAIDER FAN because you thought you were now “bad”.
YOUR WORDS, fool. You’re an image fan. Not a team fan..AN IMAGE..and that makes you the weakest of the weak.
November 23rd, 2009 at 11:14 am
Stop drinking Al’s Kool-aid! This team is garbage. I didn’t watch the game and I was surprised they won. Still, it won’t change anything, which is why I’m loving the Vikings and Brett Fav-Rey this year.
November 23rd, 2009 at 11:14 am
TrueRaider:
Hey man – Like I said – points well taken.
But the bottom line is that none of us know if the guy will be great or not.
November 23rd, 2009 at 11:14 am
# texguy Says:
November 23rd, 2009 at 11:06 am
One of 2 things will happen on Thrusday. Either the Raiders will show up and eek out another close win, or they will not show up and get blown out just like the Giants. I am hoping for the first.
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I love a firm grasp of the obvious.
Either they show up and win.
Or they show up and lose.
Heavy stuff, man.
November 23rd, 2009 at 11:15 am
I watched that game. Romo took a knee to the kidneys in the 1st quarter. Couldn’t walk or throw right for the rest of the game.
November 23rd, 2009 at 11:15 am
Whats wrong with Tony Romo? He only scored one TD at home against the Redskins. At least he is not a number one overall pick that sat out much of his first year and could not even complete half of his passes this year.
November 23rd, 2009 at 11:17 am
aig Says:
November 23rd, 2009 at 11:07 am
Tex, Thursday is extremely key to where we are headed. if we compete and win, I think we are back on track.
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Hmmm, I don’t think so. As long as Cable is the HC and Garbagekowski is our starting QB I highly doubt we are on the “right track” lol.
November 23rd, 2009 at 11:19 am
Texguy
Any news if he will start against us?
November 23rd, 2009 at 11:21 am
# RaiderRobG Says:
November 23rd, 2009 at 11:14 am
Stop drinking Al’s Kool-aid! This team is garbage. I didn’t watch the game and I was surprised they won. Still, it won’t change anything, which is why I’m loving the Vikings and Brett Fav-Rey this year.
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Oh shut up, Robby. You’re even more pathetic than Smac. See, he’s an image fan. He puts on his little pirate shirt and thinks he’s less of a dweeb. He thinks when Al does good, he’s less of a loser (in other words, he feels like a loser, at the moment, big time)
but YOU??
As soon as the Raiders lost the first game, your sorryass stated “I’m going to go and support a team that wins. Team doesn’t care if you support them or not. I’ll be back when the Raiders win again.”
Of COURSE you pulled the Vikings hat out of the drawer, you joke. As soon as the Vikings start to lose, you’ll pull out a New Orleans hat, or which every team is on top.
Your friends know you’re fake. Your family knows your fake. You get teased by everyone who knows you.
Hell, all you can do is go into a strange bar with your NEW hat on, that screams BANDWAGON LOSER, and pretend you’ve been a fan all along.
You’re sad.
November 23rd, 2009 at 11:22 am
Dakota Says:
November 23rd, 2009 at 11:17 am
aig Says:
November 23rd, 2009 at 11:07 am
Tex, Thursday is extremely key to where we are headed. if we compete and win, I think we are back on track.
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Hmmm, I don’t think so. As long as Cable is the HC and Garbagekowski is our starting QB I highly doubt we are on the “right track” lol.
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Agreed. Grads is a good backup QB at best. But, he is still outperforming the starter. If we had a good or great QB, we would be talking playoffs instead of draft picks.
November 23rd, 2009 at 11:22 am
Our chances will jump 50% if Romo doesnt start or cant throw deep passes because of his injury. All we need is to stop the run, easy said then done but if we can limit Cowgirls running game then we can shutdown Austin, Roy Williams is addition in subtraction, dude talks too much cant run routes and complains alot. I dont think he had any catches yesterday.
November 23rd, 2009 at 11:22 am
Haven’t heard anything yet today. Probably won’t know until Wed.
November 23rd, 2009 at 11:23 am
Hope to see more passes go Schilens’ way vs. Dallas and on into the future. Schilens’ 25-yard reception in yesterday’s game is everything we’ve been missing from our WRs all season long. Go up and snatch the ball out of the air between tight coverage. If that was either of our rookies it’s either incomplete or it bounces off their hands and the Bengals bring it back for a pick-6.
Murphy made a nice play on the TD. He’s had several nice plays this season. But he’s been inconsistent too and has probably as many drops as DHB (although he’s probably had at least 2x as many passes thrown his way too).
DHB has been a mess, but I do like the kid’s mentality. Hopefully they can teach him to catch. I’ve never been impressed with the kid’s game on the field, either in the NFL or what I saw of him in college. But if he has the raw athleticism, the work ethic and the willingness to be taught then there’s always hope. It’s not going to happen this season for him but if he works hard and maintains his confidence then things maybe could be different in a year or two. The one good thing I see with his game is that, like Murphy, he’s a willing and able blocker.
Also, vs. Dallas, I’d like to see them make more of an effort to draw up some plays to put McFadden in position to break some big plays. I know he’s been a disappointment — mainly because of injuries but also fumbles — but he’s still explosive and I just feel like some big Run DMC plays are bubbling just below the surface.
November 23rd, 2009 at 11:23 am
Smac-I missed your answer about The Englander, on Parrott St.
You wearing the blue dress, or the pink one?
November 23rd, 2009 at 11:24 am
Roy Williams drops almost as many passes as DHB. Every time he drops it, the crowd boos. Sound familiar?
November 23rd, 2009 at 11:28 am
O.K. – so this is my last official response to Richocrap:
Richocrap:
So. . . . .you say I’m in “image” fan.
Sure, fine. . . .sound good to me. You’re right – I’m an image fan.
I love the “image” of the Raiders – whatever.
I haven’t missed one single snap of Raider football in 31 years (either in person, on TV or on the Radio). NOT ONE SNAP.
My ass was firmly planted in my seat at the Coliseum during the last kneel-down by the Jets in a 38-0 spanking.
Where the hell were YOU Richocrap, during that last snap?
You’re right dude. I’m all about the “image”.
It makes you feel all warm inside to say that? I’m happy for you.
In the meantime, while you get off on your weak little comments, I’ll keep being a Raider fan. . . .image or no image.
And as for Fargas, how about actually reading what I said about him you blind piece of crap? If you had a brain, you would understand that I wasn’t comparing his skills to the “tooze”, “the snake”, etc.
But you’re too ignorant.
And before I part, and before you come back with your weak attempts at a response, tell us all right now:
WHY DO YOU, RICHOCHET, LOVE THE RAIDERS?
Tell us all.
You constantly dodge this question.
Tell us what YOU love about the Raiders. Apparently, my love for the “mystique”, the “image”, the “aura”, the “commitment to excellence” are all WEAK.
So then, tell us why YOU love the Raiders.
Please tell us.
If you can’t answer this simple question, IN DETAIL, then you really are the worthless piece of garbage we all know you are.
PS – tell MaddenRaider to come back up from under your chair and chime in.
November 23rd, 2009 at 11:29 am
It will be nice to watch a game this week without the scratchy sond, poor resolution, and functionality of streaming internet video.
November 23rd, 2009 at 11:31 am
hey , first off ” Garbagekowski” gives the Raiders the best chance to win. He is the best QB on the team right now. He is a solid QB who commands the offense. Now I am not saying he is the face of the franchise, but right now he is the teams best shot at winning. He makes JabeefFrank look like a little kid.
I also know that many here don’t know much about the guy, but I had a chance to watch the dude play during his stint at Tampa ( wife is a Bucs fan) I was impressed by his play during his time there. He also had a handful of games where is QB rating was in the 100’s. He is smart, a leader and knows what to do with the ball. And his biggest asset is that he is an accurate passer.
So all of you JR leeches on here get a clue. It really blows my mind to still see supporters. It boils down to 3 options…
A. You don’t know jack dick about football.
B. You bought all his gear and are now a upset little brat.
C. You are family.
Did you follow the guys career in college? He was mediocre at best. He had one good game and was drafted for that ONE game. That is a fact. He is not a NFL QB, not yet. He has a long way to go and a ton of work to do. And from what is being said about him by his college teammates is no surprise. They say his work ethic is for sh-t and he is lazy.
Like I said, he is the face of the franchise, but right now he is the teams best chance at winning
November 23rd, 2009 at 11:32 am
Texguy
I seriously at best he would be Tedd Ginn Jr who just like DHB was selected 7th overall pick. Only difference, TG returns punts and kicks while DHB is liability and taking someone else roster spot.
November 23rd, 2009 at 11:33 am
Morilla
Well said man.
November 23rd, 2009 at 11:36 am
Dakotex,
2 words for you bro…We Won…Sorry but I dont apologize for any Raider wins. Regardless of how rare it comes.
Tough to handle a win huh? I mean them winning kinda ruined your Monday again didnt it.
November 23rd, 2009 at 11:37 am
Morilla
#218 Could not of said it better myself. When I brought up some of these points during the draft several years ago – I was called a racist so there is probably a forth option there as well. After reading the post about Tim Brown and his thoughts on JR – apparently he was a racist as well.
November 23rd, 2009 at 11:37 am
Yeah Justin Fargas is gritty, ok.
Did you ever see Marcus Allen play? Gritty AND Good.
November 23rd, 2009 at 11:37 am
Chris,
it would be nice to see McFadden in the slot with Bush in the backfield. How about a double reverse with Mcfadden and dhb?
November 23rd, 2009 at 11:39 am
What if
What if we gave Gruden what he wanted and kept him and Allen?
What if we let Kiffen get Garcia in 2007 and draft Peterson or Calvin Johnson?
What if we would of let Kiffin fire our terrible DC in 2007?
What if Al Davis could get a clue and hire competent people and delegate?
What if
November 23rd, 2009 at 11:42 am
I just don’t understand why Mike Bush can’t get any carries.
November 23rd, 2009 at 11:45 am
fck Kiffin…he never wanted to be here in the first place. Pls stop with all this Kiffin worshipping. The fcker has yet to win at any level except talk talk and some more talk.
I live in Tn and he embarrasses us. You dont talk schyt when you lose and last that I checked he is 2-4 in the SEC.
November 23rd, 2009 at 11:46 am
# KoolKell Says:
November 23rd, 2009 at 11:37 am
Yeah Justin Fargas is gritty, ok.
Did you ever see Marcus Allen play? Gritty AND Good.
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Dude – get over it already. Yeah, Marcus was my favorite player growing up.
Do you NOT get sick and tired of watching talented athletes who never meet their potential?
My point (once again – for all you slow ones out there) is that I love the fact that Fargas is a total outcast in today’s “soft” league.
I’m not calling him Marcus. I’m not calling him a hall-of-famer.
Shiot man – I love to watch the guy play.
If watching D-mac get tripped up with a finger tackle gets you of, all the power to you.
(Sorry – love D-mac but had to throw that jab in there)
November 23rd, 2009 at 11:49 am
# KoolKell Says:
November 23rd, 2009 at 11:42 am
I just don’t understand why Mike Bush can’t get any carries.
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He was.
But, when you put the ball on the turf (especially in a close game, when you’re trying to come back), you sit your ass down.
That’s why.
November 23rd, 2009 at 11:53 am
If we win against Dallas, then Pit without Polumalo and Big Ben is going to be easy game. They also lost Charlie Batch and now they might looking at Garcia or Cleo Clemons. All we need is consistency in moving the chain and getting first downs, we give our defense a time to rest, they play motivated and we can win. This team plays with emotion, when we are all in one spirit offense, defense, Special teams, Fans, we are unstoppable, that is why we been losing in games JR would misses open WRs or throw it 2 the other team. We are getting lucky with teams getting banged up while we getting healthy now.
November 23rd, 2009 at 11:56 am
TrueRaider,
man it’s really one game at a time with us. i just hope that Calbe dont get all aggressive with 4 vertical on the first play against the cowgirls like he did against the Jets.
The good thing is Grad can audible out of it.
November 23rd, 2009 at 12:03 pm
The Real Madden Raider, I just want to apologize again. When I called Jamarcus last night and he told me who you were and that the two of you were dating for the past year, it was un fair of me to pick on you because your a homosexual, thats what you like. Jamarcus told he wished to be traded so the two of you could get a fresh start. I hope it happens you two need each other and its not working out here. best of luck
November 23rd, 2009 at 12:11 pm
Raider Dell Says:
November 23rd, 2009 at 10:05 am
My biggest laugh, is the guys commenting to all to see on this blog, to not go and attend the game.
The thinking was to embarass Davis. Yet I read this morning the previous threads and some of the same tools were upset they couldn’t find the game on the internet. I see you don’t want us to go to the game, yet you guys are looking for bootleg sites to watch. You guys are insane and quite funny.”
Feeling a little self righteous because you went to the game Dell? Hell I was at the game yesterday as well, but if I wasn’t, I would have been scrambling on the internet as well. Does that make me insane? Come on man.
If boycotting is something that people believe in, personally I don’t, it is there perogative to not spend their hard earned money in this rough economy. Does this mean that they shouldn’t be able to watch the game just because they don’t want to spend their money on an inferior product? Thankfully I have enough disposable income to be able to go to the games if I so choose, but not everyone is as lucky as myself.
Lately your posts have been a little condescending as if you know more than most about the Raiders. I respect your opinion, it is well educated, yet you have begun to demonstrate a tone of righteousness that seems very unbecoming.
Just wanted to give you a little perspective on how you are perceived by some.
November 23rd, 2009 at 12:13 pm
wow really guys.i start by sayin this. im a straight wht man. all this talk of black this homo that. c’mon guys. 99% of us are here cuz we’re RAIDER fans. man i grew up in the projects. most of my friends are either black or puerto rican. aint try to get girly on u guys. but do ur debating in a way other than name calling. i vote 4 all of u that have a problem with the other. meet up at the coliseum put up ur dyck beaters and go. point being fugg all of the racists.RAIDER NATION IS EVERYWHERE.
November 23rd, 2009 at 12:14 pm
PFT says Garcia is going to tryout for the Steelers….wow…
can you imagine Garcia starting for the Steelers vs Gradkowski and the Raiders?
November 23rd, 2009 at 12:17 pm
So all of you JR leeches on here get a clue. It really blows my mind to still see supporters. It boils down to 3 options…
A. You don’t know jack dick about football.
B. You bought all his gear and are now a upset little brat.
C. You are family.
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How about D, some of us are Raider fans. I personally root for all 53 guys on the team. From Slade Norris, to Cornbread Green, to Jamarcus Russell. I even hoped that Turdell Sands got his shyt together, as I do Warren, Kelly, and every one else who puts on our Jersey.
My question is how can Raider fans NOT want the guy to succeed? We invested a lot of $ in this kid, so why is it a bad thing to HOPE that he gets his head together. The appropriate action was taken by benching the kid. It does the RAIDERS no good to cut him and not make an ATTEMPT to get him on track.
Here’s to putting a foot in his ass!
November 23rd, 2009 at 12:18 pm
# Dakota Says:
November 23rd, 2009 at 9:40 am
Mike Mitchell had one tackle and DHB had one catch!
2009 draft really paying dividends.
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Yeah, as opposed to 2008 when we drafted the biggest Raider bust since Patrick Bates: Darren McFelldown.
How long do I have to wait to rue the day I called that BUST a BUST?
November 23rd, 2009 at 12:20 pm
aig Says:
November 23rd, 2009 at 12:14 pm
PFT says Garcia is going to tryout for the Steelers….wow…
can you imagine Garcia starting for the Steelers vs Gradkowski and the Raiders?”
The article also mentions that the Steelers called Cleo Lemon before they contacted Garcia. I am going to fall over laughing if Lemon beats out Garcia in a tryout!
November 23rd, 2009 at 12:23 pm
You guys see this?
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_CLEVELAND (AP) – Former Seattle and Green Bay coach Mike Holmgren is interested inworking for the struggling Cleveland Browns.
Holmgren said on his weekly radio show on Seattle’s KJR that he has not yet spoken to Browns owner Randy Lerner, who is looking for a “serious, credible leader” football authority to run his struggling team. However, Holmgren did indicate he would welcome the chance to take on a rebuilding project like the 1-8 Browns.
“It takes a tremendous amount of energy, but there is a certain appeal there,” the 61-year-old Holmgren. “There’s something in my personality, too, that taking on those types of projects, that kind of gets me going. But there’s a lot of work to do.
“The important thing, going into any organization is that all of the principles, all of the decision makers are pointed in the same direction, with the same motives, the same desires, and then you have a chance.”
Holmgren was Seattle’s GM and coach for four seasons. He stepped down as coach after last season to spend more time with his family.
Last week, Browns Hall of Famer Jim Brown said Lerner had met with “one of the great football minds in this country,” and hinted that person may have been Holmgren. Brown is a senior adviser with the Browns.
Cleveland coach Eric Mangini, struggling in his first season with the Browns, refused to comment on reports that Holmgren was on Lerner’s wish list.
“Randy’s really handling that, so I’ll let him talk about that,” Mangini said this week.
The Browns, who have scored just five offensive touchdowns this season, visit Detroit (1-8) on Sunday.
November 23rd, 2009 at 12:23 pm
Jhill,
you are right. Nothing wrong with wanting JR to succeed. I want him to succeed too. I just dont want him on the field when he is not ready. Currently he is not ready. I sure do hope he gets on a weight program in the offseason and dedicate himself. Kinda like pulling a Vince Young. JR is still young and most of us at that age with that kind of money would be a little full of ourselves too.
November 23rd, 2009 at 12:25 pm
I will be the first to say that I was a huge JR supporter. But as things progressed with him the harsh reality set in that he is not a NFL QB at this point. I am not saying to cut him loose ( but I have yelled this sentiment at times throughout games). Benching him is the first correct thing they have done. Now if his work ethic does not change and no further results are seen in the foreseeable future, they will have to get rid of him.
November 23rd, 2009 at 12:25 pm
Very true Dogg…very true…
I have a hunch Garcia will be their guy though. He will spill the beans for them on our playbook plus he can play the role of Grad during the practice.
November 23rd, 2009 at 12:25 pm
GO UCONN!
November 23rd, 2009 at 12:30 pm
KK
I also heard that Holmgren may be returning to Seattle in a Bill Parcell’s type of role.
November 23rd, 2009 at 12:31 pm
And as far as a “True” Raider fan goes… I came down the slide wearing the Silver & Black. Raider Nation for life. I just want this team to start using some common sense and get back on the right track.
http://www.justinschilf.com/dad_me.jpg
November 23rd, 2009 at 12:32 pm
MY boy joel todman’s nephew plays for uconn. dont know 1st name but i know his uncle and has meet his dad. he was taken in by a family in dartmouth mass. i know he is a rb. his name escapes me. jordan. right?
November 23rd, 2009 at 12:33 pm
Nice roots there, Morilla!
November 23rd, 2009 at 12:33 pm
boys daddy name is todd todman. serious. no joke
November 23rd, 2009 at 12:35 pm
RaiderDogg Says:
November 23rd, 2009 at 12:30 pm
KK
I also heard that Holmgren may be returning to Seattle in a Bill Parcell’s type of role.
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I guess he hasn’t been contacted by the Raiders yet, eh?
November 23rd, 2009 at 12:40 pm
KoolKell Says:
November 23rd, 2009 at 12:35 pm
RaiderDogg Says:
November 23rd, 2009 at 12:30 pm
KK
I also heard that Holmgren may be returning to Seattle in a Bill Parcell’s type of role.
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I guess he hasn’t been contacted by the Raiders yet, eh?”
Hard to say because it sure would make sense geographically speaking. Holmgren owns a nice place in Santa Cruz and is a Bay Area native. You know how secretive Al is, if they have been in contact it would probably be kept under wraps. Plus I don’t see Al giving up his strong hold just yet…
November 23rd, 2009 at 12:42 pm
The Real Madden Raider is a scum bag who does nothing but bash the raiders and keeps defending that fat pig who throws a 5 yard pass into the ground. Get this through your useless mind Madden Raider Jamarcus is done as a Raider, Grads has been in the NFL 4 years and fatso 3 years and theres a huge difference between them momo. Grads shows up early to meetings, understands the playbook. keeps in good shape, very mobile which you need to be when your behind a average Off Line, Throws accurate, short passes and runs, thats what wears down a defense retard. Remember Gannon or are you still that stupid. Jamarcus 3 years in the NFL, out of shape, doesnt like to show up at meetings, throws 2 td passes in 9 games cant read a D. So my question to you, you dumb moron how do you keep defending this guy when he doesnt want to get better?
November 23rd, 2009 at 12:44 pm
4evaRaider Says:
November 23rd, 2009 at 4:12 am
“we put together a game plan that would work…quick-pitches and short passes 2 Dmac”
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So you admit, it was the game planning in recent weeks, and not Russell. If we give Russell the game plan we gave Gradkowski yesterday, we win as well. And, we gave Russell a similar gameplan in weeks one and two, where we won week two, and only lost week one because of a poor defensive scheme at the end. Russell’s go ahead TD pass in week one was a bomb to Murphy. You guys are ready to enshrine Gradkowski in Canton for throwing his go ahead TD pass yesterday. Russell did the same thing in week one when given a more conservative gameplan, against a team that’s good, just like the Bengals. I don’t know what your guys’ agenda is, but whatever it is, you’re not using your brains.
November 23rd, 2009 at 12:47 pm
Dogg
I do see Davis being forced to give up control. 30,000 fans per in the 5th largest media market in the US, where Raiders and Fans are shut out of. Is not good business for the league.
November 23rd, 2009 at 12:48 pm
aig Says:
November 23rd, 2009 at 11:36 am
Dakotex,
2 words for you bro…We Won…Sorry but I dont apologize for any Raider wins. Regardless of how rare it comes.
Tough to handle a win huh? I mean them winning kinda ruined your Monday again didnt it.
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What? I haven’t really even said anything bad about the game yet!
lol
November 23rd, 2009 at 12:48 pm
MR our agenda is to get rid of Jamarcus and then you. Your just a trouble maker, I will always defend my Raider fans against a scum bag like you, I am your new nemesis.
November 23rd, 2009 at 12:48 pm
Wild and Wooly win
http://www.raidernationstation.com/2009_regular_season
November 23rd, 2009 at 12:50 pm
We played poorly in several aspects, but came away with the W because guys stepped up.
Way to go rooks, newbies and 2nd stringers!
http://www.raidernationstation.com/exclusives
November 23rd, 2009 at 12:50 pm
# vegas raider Says:
November 23rd, 2009 at 7:58 am
The only thing that brought me down last night, is when espn put up the AFC playoff hopefuls and there was a few 4-6 teams that made the screen.
Man if we could have beat the sorry Chiefs, we could have made the page and been only 2 games out of the 6th seed!!!!!
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Wow. Al should make a T shirt for that.
“Oakland Raiders..2009 2nd runner ups for the 6th seed”
4evaRaiders and RaiderTW would order a case! They would wear it underneath their Gradkwoski jerseys.
November 23rd, 2009 at 12:50 pm
Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
November 23rd, 2009 at 12:18 pm
# Dakota Says:
November 23rd, 2009 at 9:40 am
Mike Mitchell had one tackle and DHB had one catch!
2009 draft really paying dividends.
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Yeah, as opposed to 2008 when we drafted the biggest Raider bust since Patrick Bates: Darren McFelldown.
How long do I have to wait to rue the day I called that BUST a BUST?
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The day is coming Bo…as soon as Cable is fired and we get a coach with a clue McFadden will be back on track.
Just gotta get rid of the clown coach first.
November 23rd, 2009 at 12:51 pm
KoolKell Says:
November 23rd, 2009 at 12:47 pm
Dogg
I do see Davis being forced to give up control. 30,000 fans per in the 5th largest media market in the US, where Raiders and Fans are shut out of. Is not good business for the league.”
Money talks, much louder than anything.
November 23rd, 2009 at 12:51 pm
MR, please read post #218. That was for you and a couple others on here.
November 23rd, 2009 at 12:52 pm
It’s not unusual for a backup QB to have the upper hand in his first game, till the NFL zeroes in on him.
If Grad’s wins great, but the WR’s still only caught 4 passes. I’m not ready to say he’s going to set the league on fire, just yet.
November 23rd, 2009 at 12:53 pm
Another T shirt…
“2009 Oakland Raiders…Four EARNED victories. EARNED”
November 23rd, 2009 at 12:54 pm
Morilla, comment #218 is too long. I don’t read long, boring diatribes. Cut it down to a paragraph, repost it, and I might read and respond to it.
November 23rd, 2009 at 12:54 pm
Ok clear difference between Grad and JR.
1) Foot work: Just watch JR footwork compared to Grad this week. I can post two highlights when JR drops back, he clearly lacks the mechanics that Grad has.JR seems out of the pocket, scared and clearly can’t play under center. His tds came from Shotgun position.
2)Accuracy: Remember M Vick when he had R White and Jenkins they were dropping the balls left n right, everybody said Vick didnt have a number 1 wide receiver well, Matt Ryan comes in and makes White a pro bowler, why? When you throw the ball, you gotta know how much zip you let it have, JR doesn’t know that. Besides he misses open wrs, he doesn’t sees open targets downfield and by the time he makes his decision, coverage looks down on the Wrs. Grad reads plays better and clearly didnt miss any open receiver yesterday. Besides, short passes is his speciality which JR lacks.
3) Pocket Presence: JR doesnt command the huddle, Grad clearly inspires his offense. Grad is not afraid of taking that hit, JR gets rid of the ball or holds to the ball too long, there is no balance in his plays.
4) Leadership and accountability: Enough said in this topic.
5) Playbook: Listen to all analysts, they said JR can read half the field, he didnt know how to lineup his offense in the start of the game, he clearly needs to put on the work. Grad is a complete QB right now better and more equipped to lead this team. I didnt even state all the work ethic and other stuffs about JR, just facts.
November 23rd, 2009 at 12:55 pm
Four?
We might win FIVE!
5-11 and some of you will be beating the keep Tom Cable drum again, lol.
morons
November 23rd, 2009 at 12:57 pm
Morilla and Aig,
I hear you both, and you guys are both right, IMO. I even root for DHB, lol! I really feel for the kid. Not his fault we took him at 7. I just think he needs to be used way differently including earning his way on the field.
November 23rd, 2009 at 12:58 pm
TrueRaider, yes 100%
November 23rd, 2009 at 12:58 pm
4evaRaider Says:
November 23rd, 2009 at 8:08 am
I know we been saying wait till next year for 2 long…but Cable and the team will be improved and we make that page next year
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Cable’s gone after this year. So is “Grads!”
November 23rd, 2009 at 12:58 pm
MR you have been here to long time for you to switch you alias your crap doesnt cut it any more. You and your boy friend Jamarcus are soon to be history. Heres a quote from John Gruden, Bruce has the mind and ability to be a very good Quarter back. He done a lot of good things for me in Tampa. He loves to play and learn.
November 23rd, 2009 at 1:00 pm
True Raider, the point is, we changed the playbook for Gradkowski, giving him more throws to the running back. Why not the changes for Russell? I don’t care if Russell’s so stupid that he can’t even make throws to the running back. So the solution is to instead give him plays into coverage downfield? When Russell was given a playbook similar to what Gradkowski was given yesterday, in weeks 1 and 2, we fared well. We would have been 2-0 if not for the prevent D we used at the end of SD.
November 23rd, 2009 at 1:03 pm
Madden Raider, you and Jamarcus are done as raiders, go away you useless putz. You cant defend him no more he is finished as a NFL QB and so are you as a mouth piece on this site
November 23rd, 2009 at 1:06 pm
Anyone doesnt agree in benching JR should watch this.
http://www.nfl.com/videos/cincinnati-bengals/09000d5d8144fa1e/Russell-benched
November 23rd, 2009 at 1:08 pm
Tom Cable ….
Should he get another year just for bringing John Marshall on board? Imagine this defense next year, especially with a couple of high round draft picks added.
Then again, how can the WRs not know that they could come to work on Tuesdays?
I think at a minimum, Cable should be looking for an OC and playcaller to add to the staff. He needs to focus more on being a Head Coach instead of trying to learn how to call plays and come up with game plans.
November 23rd, 2009 at 1:09 pm
Dakotex,
you’re just a loser bro. You love nothing more than to see this team sinks again and again, It gives you some purpose in life and getting up everyday to be here on this blog. Every time we won, you’ve been consistent on here to throw water on the party.
But I tell you what, we’re losing and have been for the past 7 years. you have a buffet with it bro and call yourself a proud Raider fan along the way too. I’ll take my “Garbagekowski” for this Thursday and who knows that left over GarbageTurski” may get lucky again and I’ll throw it your face on here afterward. you dig?
November 23rd, 2009 at 1:11 pm
MR
Please highlight to me how did the play call change for Grad? The game is on replay in the NFL.com. Please tell me which plays mins and quarters cause I watched the game again last night and all I saw is a better execution.
Here is the link
http://gamerewind.nfl.com/nflgr/servlets/inmarket?id=OAK&icampaign=Oak_Blackout_w11_ROS
November 23rd, 2009 at 1:12 pm
Dakota Says:
November 23rd, 2009 at 12:50 pm
The day is coming Bo…as soon as Cable is fired and we get a coach with a clue McFadden will be back on track.
Just gotta get rid of the clown coach first.
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Now thats just weak, Dakota. Cable doesn’t make Darren let go of the ball so easily. Cable doesn’t make the sideline jump up and tackle Darren. Cable doesn’t injure Darren routinely.
The kid is a waste of a roster spot we could have used on Rankin, who is actually a football player. Hell, I’d rather play Echimandu.
November 23rd, 2009 at 1:15 pm
True Raider your a real fan dont even acknowledge that useless putz MR he just tries to stir up trouble, he knows the writing is on the wall for Jamarcus and him 2 useless football minds. Jamarcus is Finished he will be lucky to be a 3rd string QB or if he puts on another 50 pounds which for him is easy a 3rd string tackle
November 23rd, 2009 at 1:19 pm
Keep Tom Cable!
Cut McFelldown!
Give Marshall a raise!
Cut Jawalrus!
Fire Sanjay Lal!
Keep Dwayne Board!
Bring back Tom Rathman!
Pass along my apologies to once-a-bust Mike Huff!
Tell Mike Holmgren to pis in the wind!
November 23rd, 2009 at 1:20 pm
aig Says:
November 23rd, 2009 at 1:09 pm
Dakotex,
you’re just a loser bro. You love nothing more than to see this team sinks again and again, It gives you some purpose in life and getting up everyday to be here on this blog. Every time we won, you’ve been consistent on here to throw water on the party.
But I tell you what, we’re losing and have been for the past 7 years. you have a buffet with it bro and call yourself a proud Raider fan along the way too. I’ll take my “Garbagekowski” for this Thursday and who knows that left over GarbageTurski” may get lucky again and I’ll throw it your face on here afterward. you dig?
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Blah blah blah blah, you just sound like a guy that is pissed because I have been right about this team for several years, lol.
Don’t worry, I will clue you in when the team is really ready to start playing NFL ball again.
November 23rd, 2009 at 1:22 pm
once-a-bust ????
LMFAO!
November 23rd, 2009 at 1:23 pm
The past weeks games aren’t available for free on NFL.com, TrueRaider, just yesterday’s game. So there’s no way your link is going to prove that the playcalling was different from game to game, because you’ve only got a link to ONE GAME. Nice try, slick. You should be a corporate spinmeister. Well, let’s face it, you kind of are, for the Raiders. And unpaid, at that, which is sad.
I’ve watched the previous games and I can see for myself that Russell was getting more passing plays designed to go downfield than Gradkowski was getting yesterday. Lots of slants and underneath routes. Even the final TD pass was underneath coverage. If Russell was in there, the play would have been designed to go over the top and you guys would be blaming russell for the pass getting batted down.
November 23rd, 2009 at 1:23 pm
True Raider says:
“Remember M Vick when he had R White and Jenkins they were dropping the balls left n right, everybody said Vick didnt have a number 1 wide receiver well, Matt Ryan comes in and makes White a pro bowler”
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White had 83 catches for 1,202 yds and 6 TDs THE YEAR BEFORE RYAN WAS DRAFTED.
Lets not crown Grad the white knight yet. Teams will get some film and figure him out pretty quick.
Wouldn’t even be surprised to see Russell again before the year ends.
Like it or not, Russell’s the franchise. He’ll be back.
November 23rd, 2009 at 1:24 pm
What alot ppl dont realize is that by benching JR, all the players felt we have a chance to win, it is motivation factor. Grad is not a pro bowler or a suburb QB, but he is inspired the Raider players in believing they have a chance to win. It is like when you know your teammate sucks and he gets benched you feel the next guy give you a better chance to win. JR had his chance, now Grad is in until he proves his teammates wrong.
November 23rd, 2009 at 1:26 pm
True Raider, any quotes from players to back that up? What player said straight up that with Russell out of there, the team is more motivated? You’re making things up, now? Is that it?
November 23rd, 2009 at 1:27 pm
Bo says:
Now thats just weak, Dakota. Cable doesn’t make Darren let go of the ball so easily. Cable doesn’t make the sideline jump up and tackle Darren. Cable doesn’t injure Darren routinely.
The kid is a waste of a roster spot we could have used on Rankin, who is actually a football player. Hell, I’d rather play Echimandu.”
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DMC has been a disappointment all around but he’ll come around.
He’s a much more well rounded back then Rankin or Echemandu and has made huge strides pass protection.
He looked good yesterday. Oaklands offensive plays got cut down in the 1st half by Cincy and the Raiders D being unable to get off the field.
Hope DMC gets it together but man, its been a let down for sure.
November 23rd, 2009 at 1:28 pm
Good afternoon, Nation. Fine afternoon, isn’t it? Victory against a very good Cincy team. Russell is on the bench, where he belongs, until he learns how to be a man. Now, if Cable found the cahones to bench DHB, we’d be in even better shape. But I’ll take what I can get.
Is there any other receiver in the league that can miss a pass as bad as DHB does? Cable didn’t figure on having to teach a 1st rounder how to catch, now did he? I’m sure he’s watching Crabtree and punching the dummy of Davis he has in his house.
November 23rd, 2009 at 1:28 pm
True Raider tell that retard MR that fatso is not mobile enough to run outside and throw short passes. Remember how many 10 yard passes he threw into the ground against KC.He needs a grade 1 playbook in order to understand what it means to check off receivers. Jamarcus is done and so is the retard MR
November 23rd, 2009 at 1:30 pm
Bo,
Don’t worry, Kevin Gilbride will figure out how to get McFadden involved in the offense next year while Cable begins terrorizing Seattle women.
November 23rd, 2009 at 1:32 pm
Dakota
Hells Bells
November 23rd, 2009 at 1:33 pm
Love seeing all the Haters squirm…
November 23rd, 2009 at 1:33 pm
Only Jamarcus Russell’s past performances can somehow make the Raider Nation celebrate Bruce Garbagekowski and his 50%, 183 yard passing day, lol.
Well, I guess the QB spot is settled for 2010!
LMAO
November 23rd, 2009 at 1:34 pm
Nnamdi21
Why would you start talking about stats with me?
When Vick was the QB, White had this number
30 catches 506 yards Zero Tds, Vick left and he became a good WRs, M Ryann showed up and he became a pro bowler. So what is your point? Read carefully what I said, I was comparing Vick strong throws to Russel, so please dont misquote me.
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True Raider says:
“Remember M Vick when he had R White and Jenkins they were dropping the balls left n right, everybody said Vick didnt have a number 1 wide receiver well, Matt Ryan comes in and makes White a pro bowler”
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White had 83 catches for 1,202 yds and 6 TDs THE YEAR BEFORE RYAN WAS DRAFTED.
Lets not crown Grad the white knight yet. Teams will get some film and figure him out pretty quick.
Wouldn’t even be surprised to see Russell again before the year ends.
Like it or not, Russell’s the franchise. He’ll be back.
November 23rd, 2009 at 1:34 pm
TrueRaider,
You’re going over board trying to use Grads as the example. Russell has his issues, but CMON.
Grads had 180 yds passing, 2 turnovers, and completed 50% of his passes. He had all day to throw yet Murphy and DHB didn’t catch a ball until the last drive.
Comparing the 34th best QB in the league to the 35th really isn’t saying much.
Gradkowski, Russell, or who ever else you put in there will not be able to force Murphy and DHB to get involved. And having them in the lineup most of the time will mean our QB is going to produce games that have him passing for under 200 yds, around 50% completions because of drops and guys not being open, and a couple turnovers that are just the natural course of the game.
With an offense like that, we need our defense and STs to have at least 5 or 6 pro bowlers on it. We need to keep teams under 20 pts to have a shot a winning.
November 23rd, 2009 at 1:35 pm
True Raider, I’ll happily await any quotes you have from players saying that Russell being benched motivates them. And I love the way you put it, too. “what you guys don’t realize is”. LOL. Like you’re an insider! You just assume the team feels the same way about Russell as you do, without one single quote from one player. You’ve figured this out from your living room, and having never met a Raider player in your life. I love this blog. Nonstop entertainment.
November 23rd, 2009 at 1:36 pm
LOL, Dakota …
I knew people would let your Holiday cheer last.
Keep it real!
November 23rd, 2009 at 1:40 pm
# Dakota Says:
November 23rd, 2009 at 1:33 pm
Only Jamarcus Russell’s past performances can somehow make the Raider Nation celebrate Bruce Garbagekowski and his 50%, 183 yard passing day, lol.
Well, I guess the QB spot is settled for 2010!
LMAO
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Yep. That’s how bad Russell is. The Nation just breathed a sigh of relief now that the lazy fat dummy is on the bench. We’ll take mediocre-at-best over immature-fat-lazy-stupid-and-slow, any day of the week and twice on Sunday!
November 23rd, 2009 at 1:40 pm
No need to bash Grads or Russell.
The offense PRODUCED the same stats and pts as any other non blowout game we’ve been in. It may have LOOKED better, but the PRODUCTION was still the same. Running game was even worse.
We need to figure out a way to get the defense to play like that every week. No matter what is going on with the offense, there is enough talent on that side of the ball to hold teams to 20pts or less. We had a chance to win yesterday b/c the DEFENSE did it’s job, not b/c of Gradkowski’s energy.
November 23rd, 2009 at 1:41 pm
Also, the 3 penalties instead of 10 sure helped our cause. GOOD JOB Oline!
November 23rd, 2009 at 1:42 pm
The real MR your slowly sinking with the Jamarcus ship 2 more weeks and you will have to keep switching your alias in order to make your stupid comments on this site. You and Jamarcus are done as dinner. Keep yapping moron its easy to shut you up, just like its easy to pick off Jamarcus accurate throws what a joke you 2 are.
November 23rd, 2009 at 1:43 pm
jhill Says:
November 23rd, 2009 at 1:36 pm
LOL, Dakota …
I knew people would let your Holiday cheer last.
Keep it real!
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Can’t say I didn’t try!
November 23rd, 2009 at 1:43 pm
Dell
Hells Bells
November 23rd, 2009 at 1:44 pm
Relax on Grads boys its his first start of the season, 2 td passes is not bad for your first game. The other momo threw 2 tds in his last nine, cmon pull for Grads and keep bashing the idiot MR.
November 23rd, 2009 at 1:44 pm
Nnamdi, thanks for correcting my egregious misspelling of Ech-E-mandu.
However, as for your main point I must disagree. Darren did not look OK yesterday. He looked like sixth rounder at best.
November 23rd, 2009 at 1:44 pm
Yep. That’s how bad Russell is. The Nation just breathed a sigh of relief now that the lazy fat dummy is on the bench. We’ll take mediocre-at-best over immature-fat-lazy-stupid-and-slow, any day of the week and twice on Sunday!
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I think most people just want to see obvious things done the right way.
DHB should not be starting.
Fargas should not have more touches than Bush and DMAC.
Walker should not be behind Watkins and JLH.
Pears and Barnes should not have been starting.
McQuistan should have got a look.
Hiram Eugene should not be on the field.
Morrison is not a MLB.
And Russell should not be out of shape.
November 23rd, 2009 at 1:46 pm
True Raider, guess I’m not going to get that quote, huh? How would you know what the Raiders’ players are motivated by? What connection do you have with them? How many of them have you ever spoken to personally? For all you know, they could be pissed about Russell being benched. They could feel the same way I feel about it, that Russell was sabotaged with a crap playbook, for all you know. Talking about what motivates the players as if you know anything about what the Raiders players are feeling. Paalease.
November 23rd, 2009 at 1:46 pm
JRUSS is ——> Ryan Leaf 2.0 …
Sux because he is not even the improved version.
Leaf at least came to camp in shape and was fiery…
November 23rd, 2009 at 1:46 pm
JR needs to stop SNACKING on the Sidelines during the game. A guy with a history of being overweight isn’t helping himself, tearing off bubblegum strips and eating spitz all game long…
November 23rd, 2009 at 1:47 pm
Dakota Says:
November 23rd, 2009 at 1:30 pm
Bo,
Don’t worry, Kevin Gilbride will figure out how to get McFadden involved in the offense next year while Cable begins terrorizing Seattle women.
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Not sure how you can blame the coach. Darren is only good at getting THE OTHER TEAM’S offense involved.
If he can’t return kicks, cut the bust.
November 23rd, 2009 at 1:47 pm
And, btw, for most of the game yesterday our team did not look motivated. They looked distraught, and we’re losing up till the final moments. If anything, the defense looked more hyped up because they were blitzing more. As far as the offense goes? I saw the same inept bunch. Playcalling saved them in the end. It could have saved Russell, too. We’ll never know.
November 23rd, 2009 at 1:48 pm
# The Real MaddenRaider Says:
November 23rd, 2009 at 1:26 pm
True Raider, any quotes from players to back that up? What player said straight up that with Russell out of there, the team is more motivated? You’re making things up, now? Is that it?
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Sure, it is not direct quotes but that what it sounds like. Btw, since I am providing the quotes, why dont you prove that the play calling was switched for Grad, I gave the link for the game, give me mins and quarter, please back it up like I am doing.
“Bruce gives us the best chance to win right now,” tight end Zach Miller said.
“One, a passion for the game, a love for the game that he shows in the way he plays, the way he calls plays,” Fargas said. “The way he works on details of plays with players. That’s the main thing I’m seeing with him. It’s just, he’s a get-after-it type of guy.
“You want to make a play for your quarterback, but when he shows that type of passion for the game, obviously guys are going to feed off it and try to give him that same effort.”
“I think they have respect for me,” Gradkowski said of his teammates. “The important thing is they know I’m going to prepare and work hard. If you do that, you just have to go out on game day and play hard and let the chips fall into place.”
November 23rd, 2009 at 1:48 pm
Canadian Raider Says:
November 23rd, 2009 at 1:44 pm
Relax on Grads boys its his first start of the season, 2 td passes is not bad for your first game. The other momo threw 2 tds in his last nine, cmon pull for Grads
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LOL!
I’m rooting for Grads, no question about that. The minute I see him throw a nice deep ball, then I’ll really be on board. I was never a fan on Garcia or Gannon’s style of play. Heck, even now I wish Charlie Frye was starting.
November 23rd, 2009 at 1:50 pm
Lets get JR a sports psychologist to help him w/ his issues before it’s too late…
November 23rd, 2009 at 1:51 pm
# Silver-n-Smac Says:
November 23rd, 2009 at 11:28 am
O.K. – so this is my last official response to Richocrap:
RICHOCHET: AGAIN, you have no idea how pathetic you are, having said that..oh…a FEW DOZEN TIMES. 3rd time today, lol..admit it, you’re weak. You’re slow. And I’m your daddy.
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Richocrap:
So. . . . .you say I’m in “image” fan.
RICHOCHET: Actually, no..YOU SAID IT. You whined on and on about how you became a Raider fan because of AL DAVIS. Because of the IMAGE he presented. The “us against them” the “bad boy” IMAGE..YOUR WORDS. Yeah, you’re an image fan..makes you a joke.
AND YES, YOU TOLD MANY POSTERS ON THIS BOARD IF THEY DID NOT support Al and “his image” of the Raiders, they should GO FIND ANOTHER TEAM..again, YOUR words.
Tell me..honestly..did that pirate on your shirt get the kids to stop laughing at you?
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I haven’t missed one single snap of Raider football in 31 years (either in person, on TV or on the Radio). NOT ONE SNAP.
RICHOCHET: according to who? YOU? Means nothing..you’re desperate to explain why you TELL OTHER POSTERS TO LEAVE IF THEY DON’T LOVE AL. makes you weak. Makes you a fool. Anyone can lie.
My ass was firmly planted in my seat at the Coliseum during the last kneel-down by the Jets in a 38-0 spanking.
Where the hell were YOU Richocrap, during that last snap?
RICHOCHET: I was beside Al, in the box, slapping him for his bad choices, while stealing his chips. See how the “saw what I want” thing works?
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In the meantime, while you get off on your weak little comments, I’ll keep being a Raider fan. . . .image or no image.
RICHOCHET: Until Al dies..then you’re gone.
And as for Fargas, how about actually reading what I said about him you blind piece of crap? If you had a brain, you would understand that I wasn’t comparing his skills to the “tooze”, “the snake”, etc.
RICHOCHET: rigggggt..he’s just your 2ND FAVORITE RAIDER PLAYER OF ALL TIME. What has he done for the Raiders? NOTHING? What has he brought that a hundred other highly producing, very instrumental players of the past brought? Nothing.
Words spoken by a fan who’s just ‘RECENTLY’ started following the Raiders.
Why do I just KNOW that all of your Raider gear is dated 2002? Where, during the playoff run, you pulled a RobG, and all of a sudden became a “RAIDER FAN”?
November 23rd, 2009 at 1:54 pm
Jhill. Agreed. DHB should not be starting and I’m hoping Cable works that out with Al soon. Not to give up on the kid. Just let him sit for now and give him a few plays per game.
Bush should take the load and we need some to utilize DMAC better. Walker should have seen the field by now.
November 23rd, 2009 at 1:56 pm
JHill Grads doesnt have the arm strenth to go deep, but you dont have to if you got fast players five and ten yard passes will work all day as long as you are accurate. When the D can get some rest they are a very difficult unit to play against. The offense doesnt need to score every drive a little time consumption helps the D go a long way. Grads was to hyped when the game started but you can see when he settled down that he is a smart QB. When he rushed those guys to the line of scrimmage to give Seabass a chance at the half was impressing to me with no time outs. He has the smarts and work ethic
November 23rd, 2009 at 2:02 pm
The Real MaddenRaider who the phauck are you? And can I have whatever drugs you are on? Seriously…. It must be comforting to live inside this little world you have created for yourself.
Every word that comes forth from your mouth will no longer be taken seriously by me. You are clueless to the game.
November 23rd, 2009 at 2:05 pm
Dakota
Hells Bells version #2
November 23rd, 2009 at 2:10 pm
Morilla good comment about the idiot MR, this guy is a trash talker who tries to cause turmoil. His garbage is reckongnized by eveyone. Him and Tuna Russel are done as raiders.
November 24th, 2009 at 11:48 am
Let’s see if jerry finally piks one of my questions….
February 4th, 2010 at 1:08 am
piano tabs…
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October 26th, 2011 at 8:25 pm
flat roof repairs…
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