Part of the Bay Area News Group

Raiders live chat: Tuesday, Nov. 24 at noon

By Jon Becker
Monday, November 23rd, 2009 at 1:01 am in Live chats, Oakland Raiders.

Join Jerry McDonald for an inside look at the Raiders in our weekly live chat on Tuesday, Nov. 24 at noon PST.

  • Share/Bookmark

[You can leave a response, or trackback from your own site.]

  • Canadian Raider

    The Real Madden Raider is a scum bag who does nothing but bash the raiders and keeps defending that fat pig who throws a 5 yard pass into the ground. Get this through your useless mind Madden Raider Jamarcus is done as a Raider, Grads has been in the NFL 4 years and fatso 3 years and theres a huge difference between them momo. Grads shows up early to meetings, understands the playbook. keeps in good shape, very mobile which you need to be when your behind a average Off Line, Throws accurate, short passes and runs, thats what wears down a defense retard. Remember Gannon or are you still that stupid. Jamarcus 3 years in the NFL, out of shape, doesnt like to show up at meetings, throws 2 td passes in 9 games cant read a D. So my question to you, you dumb moron how do you keep defending this guy when he doesnt want to get better?

  • http://none The Real MaddenRaider

    4evaRaider Says:
    November 23rd, 2009 at 4:12 am

    “we put together a game plan that would work…quick-pitches and short passes 2 Dmac”

    ………………

    So you admit, it was the game planning in recent weeks, and not Russell. If we give Russell the game plan we gave Gradkowski yesterday, we win as well. And, we gave Russell a similar gameplan in weeks one and two, where we won week two, and only lost week one because of a poor defensive scheme at the end. Russell’s go ahead TD pass in week one was a bomb to Murphy. You guys are ready to enshrine Gradkowski in Canton for throwing his go ahead TD pass yesterday. Russell did the same thing in week one when given a more conservative gameplan, against a team that’s good, just like the Bengals. I don’t know what your guys’ agenda is, but whatever it is, you’re not using your brains.

  • http://www.Move2Alameda.com KoolKell

    Dogg

    I do see Davis being forced to give up control. 30,000 fans per in the 5th largest media market in the US, where Raiders and Fans are shut out of. Is not good business for the league.

  • http://media-2.web.britannica.com/eb-media/63/60563-004-52A399D4.jpg Dakota

    aig Says:
    November 23rd, 2009 at 11:36 am
    Dakotex,

    2 words for you bro…We Won…Sorry but I dont apologize for any Raider wins. Regardless of how rare it comes.

    Tough to handle a win huh? I mean them winning kinda ruined your Monday again didnt it.
    ______________________________________

    What? I haven’t really even said anything bad about the game yet!

    lol

  • Canadian Raider

    MR our agenda is to get rid of Jamarcus and then you. Your just a trouble maker, I will always defend my Raider fans against a scum bag like you, I am your new nemesis.

  • Nnamdi21
  • Nnamdi21

    We played poorly in several aspects, but came away with the W because guys stepped up.

    Way to go rooks, newbies and 2nd stringers!

    http://www.raidernationstation.com/exclusives

  • http://none The Real MaddenRaider

    # vegas raider Says:
    November 23rd, 2009 at 7:58 am

    The only thing that brought me down last night, is when espn put up the AFC playoff hopefuls and there was a few 4-6 teams that made the screen.

    Man if we could have beat the sorry Chiefs, we could have made the page and been only 2 games out of the 6th seed!!!!!

    ………..

    Wow. Al should make a T shirt for that.

    “Oakland Raiders..2009 2nd runner ups for the 6th seed”

    4evaRaiders and RaiderTW would order a case! They would wear it underneath their Gradkwoski jerseys.

  • http://media-2.web.britannica.com/eb-media/63/60563-004-52A399D4.jpg Dakota

    Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
    November 23rd, 2009 at 12:18 pm
    # Dakota Says:
    November 23rd, 2009 at 9:40 am

    Mike Mitchell had one tackle and DHB had one catch!

    2009 draft really paying dividends.

    :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::

    Yeah, as opposed to 2008 when we drafted the biggest Raider bust since Patrick Bates: Darren McFelldown.

    How long do I have to wait to rue the day I called that BUST a BUST?
    ____________________

    The day is coming Bo…as soon as Cable is fired and we get a coach with a clue McFadden will be back on track.

    Just gotta get rid of the clown coach first.

  • http://sportmag.us/images/Lester_Hayes_November_1981.jpg RaiderDogg

    KoolKell Says:
    November 23rd, 2009 at 12:47 pm
    Dogg

    I do see Davis being forced to give up control. 30,000 fans per in the 5th largest media market in the US, where Raiders and Fans are shut out of. Is not good business for the league.”

    Money talks, much louder than anything.

  • morilla

    MR, please read post #218. That was for you and a couple others on here.

  • http://www.Move2Alameda.com KoolKell

    It’s not unusual for a backup QB to have the upper hand in his first game, till the NFL zeroes in on him.

    If Grad’s wins great, but the WR’s still only caught 4 passes. I’m not ready to say he’s going to set the league on fire, just yet.

  • http://none The Real MaddenRaider

    Another T shirt…

    “2009 Oakland Raiders…Four EARNED victories. EARNED”

  • http://none The Real MaddenRaider

    Morilla, comment #218 is too long. I don’t read long, boring diatribes. Cut it down to a paragraph, repost it, and I might read and respond to it.

  • TrueRaider

    Ok clear difference between Grad and JR.

    1) Foot work: Just watch JR footwork compared to Grad this week. I can post two highlights when JR drops back, he clearly lacks the mechanics that Grad has.JR seems out of the pocket, scared and clearly can’t play under center. His tds came from Shotgun position.

    2)Accuracy: Remember M Vick when he had R White and Jenkins they were dropping the balls left n right, everybody said Vick didnt have a number 1 wide receiver well, Matt Ryan comes in and makes White a pro bowler, why? When you throw the ball, you gotta know how much zip you let it have, JR doesn’t know that. Besides he misses open wrs, he doesn’t sees open targets downfield and by the time he makes his decision, coverage looks down on the Wrs. Grad reads plays better and clearly didnt miss any open receiver yesterday. Besides, short passes is his speciality which JR lacks.

    3) Pocket Presence: JR doesnt command the huddle, Grad clearly inspires his offense. Grad is not afraid of taking that hit, JR gets rid of the ball or holds to the ball too long, there is no balance in his plays.

    4) Leadership and accountability: Enough said in this topic.

    5) Playbook: Listen to all analysts, they said JR can read half the field, he didnt know how to lineup his offense in the start of the game, he clearly needs to put on the work. Grad is a complete QB right now better and more equipped to lead this team. I didnt even state all the work ethic and other stuffs about JR, just facts.

  • http://media-2.web.britannica.com/eb-media/63/60563-004-52A399D4.jpg Dakota

    Four?

    We might win FIVE!

    5-11 and some of you will be beating the keep Tom Cable drum again, lol.

    morons

  • jhill

    Morilla and Aig,

    I hear you both, and you guys are both right, IMO. I even root for DHB, lol! I really feel for the kid. Not his fault we took him at 7. I just think he needs to be used way differently including earning his way on the field.

  • morilla

    TrueRaider, yes 100%

  • http://none The Real MaddenRaider

    4evaRaider Says:
    November 23rd, 2009 at 8:08 am

    I know we been saying wait till next year for 2 long…but Cable and the team will be improved and we make that page next year

    ………….

    Cable’s gone after this year. So is “Grads!”

  • Canadian Raider

    MR you have been here to long time for you to switch you alias your crap doesnt cut it any more. You and your boy friend Jamarcus are soon to be history. Heres a quote from John Gruden, Bruce has the mind and ability to be a very good Quarter back. He done a lot of good things for me in Tampa. He loves to play and learn.

  • http://none The Real MaddenRaider

    True Raider, the point is, we changed the playbook for Gradkowski, giving him more throws to the running back. Why not the changes for Russell? I don’t care if Russell’s so stupid that he can’t even make throws to the running back. So the solution is to instead give him plays into coverage downfield? When Russell was given a playbook similar to what Gradkowski was given yesterday, in weeks 1 and 2, we fared well. We would have been 2-0 if not for the prevent D we used at the end of SD.

  • Canadian Raider

    Madden Raider, you and Jamarcus are done as raiders, go away you useless putz. You cant defend him no more he is finished as a NFL QB and so are you as a mouth piece on this site

  • TrueRaider

    Anyone doesnt agree in benching JR should watch this.

    http://www.nfl.com/videos/cincinnati-bengals/09000d5d8144fa1e/Russell-benched

  • jhill

    Tom Cable ….

    Should he get another year just for bringing John Marshall on board? Imagine this defense next year, especially with a couple of high round draft picks added.

    Then again, how can the WRs not know that they could come to work on Tuesdays?

    I think at a minimum, Cable should be looking for an OC and playcaller to add to the staff. He needs to focus more on being a Head Coach instead of trying to learn how to call plays and come up with game plans.

  • aig

    Dakotex,

    you’re just a loser bro. You love nothing more than to see this team sinks again and again, It gives you some purpose in life and getting up everyday to be here on this blog. Every time we won, you’ve been consistent on here to throw water on the party.

    But I tell you what, we’re losing and have been for the past 7 years. you have a buffet with it bro and call yourself a proud Raider fan along the way too. I’ll take my “Garbagekowski” for this Thursday and who knows that left over GarbageTurski” may get lucky again and I’ll throw it your face on here afterward. you dig?

  • TrueRaider

    MR

    Please highlight to me how did the play call change for Grad? The game is on replay in the NFL.com. Please tell me which plays mins and quarters cause I watched the game again last night and all I saw is a better execution.

    Here is the link
    http://gamerewind.nfl.com/nflgr/servlets/inmarket?id=OAK&icampaign=Oak_Blackout_w11_ROS

  • http://www.blogcdn.com/www.fanhouse.com/media/2008/04/desmond-howard-425-sm.jpg Bo Schembechler Jackson

    Dakota Says:
    November 23rd, 2009 at 12:50 pm

    The day is coming Bo…as soon as Cable is fired and we get a coach with a clue McFadden will be back on track.

    Just gotta get rid of the clown coach first.

    :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::

    Now thats just weak, Dakota. Cable doesn’t make Darren let go of the ball so easily. Cable doesn’t make the sideline jump up and tackle Darren. Cable doesn’t injure Darren routinely.

    The kid is a waste of a roster spot we could have used on Rankin, who is actually a football player. Hell, I’d rather play Echimandu.

  • Canadian Raider

    True Raider your a real fan dont even acknowledge that useless putz MR he just tries to stir up trouble, he knows the writing is on the wall for Jamarcus and him 2 useless football minds. Jamarcus is Finished he will be lucky to be a 3rd string QB or if he puts on another 50 pounds which for him is easy a 3rd string tackle

  • http://www.blogcdn.com/www.fanhouse.com/media/2008/04/desmond-howard-425-sm.jpg Bo Schembechler Jackson

    Keep Tom Cable!
    Cut McFelldown!
    Give Marshall a raise!
    Cut Jawalrus!
    Fire Sanjay Lal!
    Keep Dwayne Board!
    Bring back Tom Rathman!
    Pass along my apologies to once-a-bust Mike Huff!
    Tell Mike Holmgren to pis in the wind!

  • http://media-2.web.britannica.com/eb-media/63/60563-004-52A399D4.jpg Dakota

    aig Says:
    November 23rd, 2009 at 1:09 pm
    Dakotex,

    you’re just a loser bro. You love nothing more than to see this team sinks again and again, It gives you some purpose in life and getting up everyday to be here on this blog. Every time we won, you’ve been consistent on here to throw water on the party.

    But I tell you what, we’re losing and have been for the past 7 years. you have a buffet with it bro and call yourself a proud Raider fan along the way too. I’ll take my “Garbagekowski” for this Thursday and who knows that left over GarbageTurski” may get lucky again and I’ll throw it your face on here afterward. you dig?
    ____________________

    Blah blah blah blah, you just sound like a guy that is pissed because I have been right about this team for several years, lol.

    Don’t worry, I will clue you in when the team is really ready to start playing NFL ball again.

  • jhill

    once-a-bust ????

    LMFAO!

  • http://none The Real MaddenRaider

    The past weeks games aren’t available for free on NFL.com, TrueRaider, just yesterday’s game. So there’s no way your link is going to prove that the playcalling was different from game to game, because you’ve only got a link to ONE GAME. Nice try, slick. You should be a corporate spinmeister. Well, let’s face it, you kind of are, for the Raiders. And unpaid, at that, which is sad.

    I’ve watched the previous games and I can see for myself that Russell was getting more passing plays designed to go downfield than Gradkowski was getting yesterday. Lots of slants and underneath routes. Even the final TD pass was underneath coverage. If Russell was in there, the play would have been designed to go over the top and you guys would be blaming russell for the pass getting batted down.

  • Nnamdi21

    True Raider says:

    “Remember M Vick when he had R White and Jenkins they were dropping the balls left n right, everybody said Vick didnt have a number 1 wide receiver well, Matt Ryan comes in and makes White a pro bowler”

    ================================

    White had 83 catches for 1,202 yds and 6 TDs THE YEAR BEFORE RYAN WAS DRAFTED.

    Lets not crown Grad the white knight yet. Teams will get some film and figure him out pretty quick.

    Wouldn’t even be surprised to see Russell again before the year ends.

    Like it or not, Russell’s the franchise. He’ll be back.

  • TrueRaider

    What alot ppl dont realize is that by benching JR, all the players felt we have a chance to win, it is motivation factor. Grad is not a pro bowler or a suburb QB, but he is inspired the Raider players in believing they have a chance to win. It is like when you know your teammate sucks and he gets benched you feel the next guy give you a better chance to win. JR had his chance, now Grad is in until he proves his teammates wrong.

  • http://none The Real MaddenRaider

    True Raider, any quotes from players to back that up? What player said straight up that with Russell out of there, the team is more motivated? You’re making things up, now? Is that it?

  • Nnamdi21

    Bo says:

    Now thats just weak, Dakota. Cable doesn’t make Darren let go of the ball so easily. Cable doesn’t make the sideline jump up and tackle Darren. Cable doesn’t injure Darren routinely.

    The kid is a waste of a roster spot we could have used on Rankin, who is actually a football player. Hell, I’d rather play Echimandu.”

    ==============================

    DMC has been a disappointment all around but he’ll come around.

    He’s a much more well rounded back then Rankin or Echemandu and has made huge strides pass protection.

    He looked good yesterday. Oaklands offensive plays got cut down in the 1st half by Cincy and the Raiders D being unable to get off the field.

    Hope DMC gets it together but man, its been a let down for sure.

  • The Big Banana

    Good afternoon, Nation. Fine afternoon, isn’t it? Victory against a very good Cincy team. Russell is on the bench, where he belongs, until he learns how to be a man. Now, if Cable found the cahones to bench DHB, we’d be in even better shape. But I’ll take what I can get.

    Is there any other receiver in the league that can miss a pass as bad as DHB does? Cable didn’t figure on having to teach a 1st rounder how to catch, now did he? I’m sure he’s watching Crabtree and punching the dummy of Davis he has in his house.

  • Canadian Raider

    True Raider tell that retard MR that fatso is not mobile enough to run outside and throw short passes. Remember how many 10 yard passes he threw into the ground against KC.He needs a grade 1 playbook in order to understand what it means to check off receivers. Jamarcus is done and so is the retard MR

  • http://media-2.web.britannica.com/eb-media/63/60563-004-52A399D4.jpg Dakota

    Bo,

    Don’t worry, Kevin Gilbride will figure out how to get McFadden involved in the offense next year while Cable begins terrorizing Seattle women.

  • Raider Dell

    Dakota

    Hells Bells

  • VanHeathen

    Love seeing all the Haters squirm…

  • http://media-2.web.britannica.com/eb-media/63/60563-004-52A399D4.jpg Dakota

    Only Jamarcus Russell’s past performances can somehow make the Raider Nation celebrate Bruce Garbagekowski and his 50%, 183 yard passing day, lol.

    Well, I guess the QB spot is settled for 2010!

    LMAO

  • TrueRaider

    Nnamdi21

    Why would you start talking about stats with me?
    When Vick was the QB, White had this number
    30 catches 506 yards Zero Tds, Vick left and he became a good WRs, M Ryann showed up and he became a pro bowler. So what is your point? Read carefully what I said, I was comparing Vick strong throws to Russel, so please dont misquote me.

    ===================================================
    True Raider says:

    “Remember M Vick when he had R White and Jenkins they were dropping the balls left n right, everybody said Vick didnt have a number 1 wide receiver well, Matt Ryan comes in and makes White a pro bowler”

    ================================

    White had 83 catches for 1,202 yds and 6 TDs THE YEAR BEFORE RYAN WAS DRAFTED.

    Lets not crown Grad the white knight yet. Teams will get some film and figure him out pretty quick.

    Wouldn’t even be surprised to see Russell again before the year ends.

    Like it or not, Russell’s the franchise. He’ll be back.

  • jhill

    TrueRaider,

    You’re going over board trying to use Grads as the example. Russell has his issues, but CMON.

    Grads had 180 yds passing, 2 turnovers, and completed 50% of his passes. He had all day to throw yet Murphy and DHB didn’t catch a ball until the last drive.

    Comparing the 34th best QB in the league to the 35th really isn’t saying much.

    Gradkowski, Russell, or who ever else you put in there will not be able to force Murphy and DHB to get involved. And having them in the lineup most of the time will mean our QB is going to produce games that have him passing for under 200 yds, around 50% completions because of drops and guys not being open, and a couple turnovers that are just the natural course of the game.

    With an offense like that, we need our defense and STs to have at least 5 or 6 pro bowlers on it. We need to keep teams under 20 pts to have a shot a winning.

  • http://none The Real MaddenRaider

    True Raider, I’ll happily await any quotes you have from players saying that Russell being benched motivates them. And I love the way you put it, too. “what you guys don’t realize is”. LOL. Like you’re an insider! You just assume the team feels the same way about Russell as you do, without one single quote from one player. You’ve figured this out from your living room, and having never met a Raider player in your life. I love this blog. Nonstop entertainment.

  • jhill

    LOL, Dakota …

    I knew people would let your Holiday cheer last.

    Keep it real!

  • The Big Banana

    # Dakota Says:
    November 23rd, 2009 at 1:33 pm

    Only Jamarcus Russell’s past performances can somehow make the Raider Nation celebrate Bruce Garbagekowski and his 50%, 183 yard passing day, lol.

    Well, I guess the QB spot is settled for 2010!

    LMAO
    ======================================================
    Yep. That’s how bad Russell is. The Nation just breathed a sigh of relief now that the lazy fat dummy is on the bench. We’ll take mediocre-at-best over immature-fat-lazy-stupid-and-slow, any day of the week and twice on Sunday!

  • jhill

    No need to bash Grads or Russell.

    The offense PRODUCED the same stats and pts as any other non blowout game we’ve been in. It may have LOOKED better, but the PRODUCTION was still the same. Running game was even worse.

    We need to figure out a way to get the defense to play like that every week. No matter what is going on with the offense, there is enough talent on that side of the ball to hold teams to 20pts or less. We had a chance to win yesterday b/c the DEFENSE did it’s job, not b/c of Gradkowski’s energy.

  • jhill

    Also, the 3 penalties instead of 10 sure helped our cause. GOOD JOB Oline!

  • Canadian Raider

    The real MR your slowly sinking with the Jamarcus ship 2 more weeks and you will have to keep switching your alias in order to make your stupid comments on this site. You and Jamarcus are done as dinner. Keep yapping moron its easy to shut you up, just like its easy to pick off Jamarcus accurate throws what a joke you 2 are.