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Final: Cowboys 24, Raiders 7

By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Thursday, November 26th, 2009 at 4:25 pm in Oakland Raiders.

Scoring

Dal_Roy Williams 6-yard pass from Tony Romo (Nick Folk kicks PAT), 13:12

Notes:

– Raiders drive into Dallas territory, Darrius Heyward-Bey catches 17-yard pass, Gradkowski 17 yards to Schilens. Getting some cosmetic stats late. Drive dies at 20 when Gradkowski throws incomplete.

Raiders call last time out with 1:44 to play before Cowboys begin to kill clock. Barber first down will allow Cowboys to kneel on ball for the win.

– Third down, Marion Barber for 32 yards and a first down. Dallas has 384 yards on its 10 biggest plays.

– Gradkowski sacked by Anthony Spencer, Raiders can’t manage a first down, punt it back to Dallas wtih 8:12 left.

– Dallas penalizes itself into third-and-23, Romo throws short to Witten, Dallas punts at 10 minute mark.

– Down 24-7, with 13:12 left, Raiders need an answer _ and it needs to come quicker than an 11-play drive. Instead, they go three-and-out with 11:46 to play

– First play of fourth quarter _ Romo to Witten for 44 yards to the 8-yard line. Two snaps later, Romo finds Williams for six yards and a score as Chris Johnson looks immediately at Tyvon Branch as Raiders assess a blown coverage.

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  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAaQNACwaLw Raider75

    The 2010 Free Agent QBs are nothing special.

    Tavaris Jackson… Jason Campbell … Brodie Croyle…

    The Raiders will either be forced back to Russell or will draft another QB.

    There will be no Free Agent Savior.

  • manassamauler

    russell has already gotten his 30 mil guaranteed. so IT does makes sense, logically for russell and to most people, for russell to take a HUGE paycut, he should get paid for what hes worth on the field. and that number is low right now. Only logical conclusion

  • kidseven

    So are DMAC and Bush really only average talents, or is it the team? Until recently I was convinced the Raiders have some incredible skill players that just need a chance to shine, but now I’m leaning toward Jerry’s side–maybe the Raiders are simply overmatched in terms of talent. It seems like the playcalling and gameplan are horrible, but if these skill guys were any good we’d break one open occasionally.

    And Gary Russell returning kicks was totally embarrassing. Absurd. Makes the coaching staff look absolutely looney. On a team full of sub 4.5 speedsters we send a 240 lb fullback with a beer gut back to return kicks.

  • ohioraider

    Priest you numnuts, what Grad has,what’s been missing from this team since Gannon left, is heart and drive. How much innate talent do you think medium range QBs like Gannon and Stabler had? This guy practices hard and plays his heart out. That’s the only thing this team has going for it near as I can tell. Go kiss Russell’s ass OK?

  • manassamauler

    jason cambell is decent,alex smith will be available too!!! jk that guy is a buster too. maybe oak can get kevin kolb from philly, maybe send a second round pick and the linbackers over there.

  • jhill

    And J Hill, you’re right, I don’t like Russell or the way he speaks, but that’s not why he SUCKS.

    ——————————————————-

    I really don’t want to get into a Russell debate with you, because I think he should have been benched for different reasons that you do.

    I’ll just say this. I don’t recall ANYONE saying Russell should go based on the way he finished last year. That Houston game followed up by the Tampa game was just what everyone wanted to see. Even the 3 or 4 games before that, NO ONE was talking shyt about Russell.

    Now 8 games into a season that EVERYONE agrees included 2 WRs that should not be playing, a coach and OC that was not qualified for the job and insists on calling plays, a 3rd string RB getting the bulk of the carries, and a patchwork Oline …. You want to cut the QB who is only 24 years old with less than 2 season as a starter?

    Cmon! That’s simply because you don’t like him.

    And it’s cool. You are entitled to your opinion.

  • manassamauler

    i think DMAC will be a great RB. he has the talent and made some plays today, 2-3 catches. lot of people in here rag on dmac but he’s be the RB of the future.

  • armond

    raiderman ill entertain that question and it includes last year as well. he can throw on the run pretty well and when he decides to run he actually gets yards. he has shown some touch but he can get better. those throws to dhb and murphy back to back were beautiful. the tds against houston to chaz and jlh last year showed touch. his prettiest pass was the week before when he threw a fade to curry against the pats. he has made some plays to help win us games late in the game against the jets and buccs last year, sd and kc this year. he isnt a whiner and throws those dumpoffs better than he has gotten credit for. throwing to miller and chaz arent his problems but to dhb and murph it is. he built a connection with jlh last year but cable put those two rooks out there and everything has gone to sheit. he has his problems and he needs to fix them but grads is not making the offense much better.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAaQNACwaLw Raider75

    Kid…

    Backs will never shine with no passing game and horrible O-line.

    The Raiders have got a few decent young guys on the D-line the last few years, but the O-line has been neglected and is really the root of the offensive woes.

  • DT42

    The thing about JRuss is that he was in Jimbo Fishers offense at LSU. They ran the same basic concepts that most NFL teams run. Mesh, Smash, Stick, Spacing etc. And they ran it out of multiple formations. So your telling me that in 2 years he forgot EVERYTHING?? Doesn’t make any sense. He’s been around this stuff for years. You don’t just stop knowing it. I hope that in the off-season he takes the opportunity to get back into shape and find his passion for the sport. The Raiders should draft a qb in later rounds (Sam Bradford in the 2nd round) and give JRuss one more season to get it right. That would also give Bradford a chance to be completely healed from his shoulder injury and get used to the pros.

  • manassamauler

    # Raider75 Says:
    November 26th, 2009 at 7:02 pm

    Kid…

    Backs will never shine with no passing game and horrible O-line.

    The Raiders have got a few decent young guys on the D-line the last few years, but the O-line has been neglected and is really the root of the offensive woes.

    hey kid its funny because fargas has been shining just fine. raiders oline is actually a lot better at run blocking. u have to watch games to see that. raiders need offensive tackles!!!! run blocking has been a lot better than pass protection. raider running backs have been the ONLY offensive players to shine at all over the last 3 years.

  • armond

    it doesnt make sense for RUSSELL to take a paycut. why would anyone take a paycut when they dont have to? that goes for me too. i dont care if my job hated my effort im not taking a paycut especially when ive already got my money. it makes sense for the raiders but not for him and it wont happen unless he defers some of his money which i doubt he does and i dont blame him. would u do it if your job asked u to?

  • Raiders4eve

    Anyone saw how Marshall is doing it 4 the donkeys? Man, this kool aid aint working time to smoke some chronic, ONE HANDED CATCH and whats DHB doing ? Man I wish we won today, but our team is horrible, NO FOKAIN QB, NO OL, NO WRS, NO RBS, NO OFFENSE COORDINATOR, NO COACH, NO PLAY CALLING, NO GM, NO DTS, NO LB, NO CB, NO ST, NO NO NO NO BUT YES TO AL DAVIS SOB.

  • manassamauler

    raiders shouldn’t draft any QBs period. get some nfl caliber offensive tackles first.

  • kidseven

    I’ll tell you what I think Russell does well and what his talents appear to be:

    1. Strong arm.
    2. A pretty good medium range passer when he’s on (which is all too rare) because he can fire a 40-yard bullet.
    3. Reasonably tough.
    4. Deceptively decent scrambler.
    5. Keeps his cool.

    Unfortunately he’s also horribly inaccurate, isn’t nearly motivated enough (proven by numerous actions), he weighs too much, doesn’t have a good feel for pressure, poor ball security, below average clock management, doesn’t read defenses well at all, doesn’t appear to inspire teammates much.

    Seems to me he’ll need another couple of years–if he works hard–to become an average QB.

  • jhill

    You can put it on Russell all you want, but it should be clear as day that NO qb can get it done in this offense with these group of WRs. It’s just NOT going to happen. 300 yd passing day? You can forget about that! Chaz is a possesion WR at 75%. No more, no less. And did you see them take Miller out of the game today?
    It’s not that hard to figure out our offense guys. Take Miller away, and see if the WRs can beat you.

  • armond

    dt42 i doubt we take a qb that high and bradford might go in the 1rst rnd still some say. u are right about him at lsu and he needs to get back to that weight he was when there. 255lbs might be good so we can take advantage of his mobility . he can rollout much better than given credit for. he has been screwed up by the system and changes we had since he has been here. he and the raiders need to get their act together.

  • manassamauler

    # armond Says:
    November 26th, 2009 at 7:06 pm

    it doesnt make sense for RUSSELL to take a paycut. why would anyone take a paycut when they dont have to? that goes for me too. i dont care if my job hated my effort im not taking a paycut especially when ive already got my money. it makes sense for the raiders but not for him and it wont happen unless he defers some of his money which i doubt he does and i dont blame him. would u do it if your job asked u to?

    RUSSELL will take a paycut reagardless of where he plays, because he’s horrible right now. would YOU pay that dude 10 mil next year? frickin peyton manning money!!!LOLOLOLOL it may not make sense to russell to take a pay cut but he WILL have to soon.

  • armond

    this is why we must get a new coach cuz cable aint givin playcallin next year unless big al takes it from him. why did bush touch the ball for the first time in the 3rd qtr? cable takes dmc out of the game before we have a chance to do anything. once we get down by 10 pts he gives up running unless its fargas. get that for a minute. u down by 10 early in the game and u take out the rb who is suppose to be your best homerun threat to get u back in the game for 3YARDS AND CLOUD OF DAMN DUST FARGAS!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • armond

    AND MELONIE FIONA IS HELLA FINE, DAAYYUMM!!!! SHE ALMOST AS FINES AS ME HAHAHA

  • jhill

    60 cuts to park ?!?!?!?

    LMFAO Jerry Jones!

    How much is a fuggin ticket to get in the place?

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAaQNACwaLw Raider75

    Manassamauler…

    Fargas and the backs have been bright spots but they have not shined.

    Raiders are 20th in the league in Rushing averaging 102 yards per game. May have changed a few spots based on today but not sure.

    Hardly SHINING if you ask me.

    Raiders are only averaging 3.9 yards per carry. Again, this near the bottom of the league.

    25th in the league in rushing TDs at 5.

    Longest run from scrimmage is 60 yards.

    The O-line is crap.

  • armond

    russell is gettin that money next year whether u like it or not. that shouldnt be important like his improvement. im not worried about how much he make cuz ill never have to pay him. i could care less about his money like yall do. what you worried about it for, u jealous?

  • jhill

    Sounds like a cool G banger for a family of 4 to have a good time at Jerry’s place?

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAaQNACwaLw Raider75

    # jhill Says:
    November 26th, 2009 at 7:18 pm

    60 cuts to park ?!?!?!?

    LMFAO Jerry Jones!

    How much is a fuggin ticket to get in the place?
    ………..

    Cheap seats today for over 200 per ticket.

    They have these sections where you can STAND and watch the game for $60 bucks. Once you pay, you have to wait and they only let so many in. So your 60 bucks only gets you a CHANCE to STAND and watch the game.

  • aig

    Our WR’s were open today. The problem is with Cable’s playcalling and the Oline. Our Oline didnt had a hard time holding up. Moreover, Dallas found Grad’s weakness. That is crowd him, dont let him get out and dont giving him passing lanes. Grad is short and he missed a lot of throws in the first half with our receivers open because he was pressured and had no throwing lanes.

    Cable should have rolled him out. What’s the use of having a mobile qb if you gonna keep him in the pocket. Cable is finally taking advantage of mcFadden in the slot. Now if he can roll out Grad when our lines is not holding up, then we’ll be fine.

  • aig

    I meant our Oline had a hardtime holding up.

  • aig

    oh and on top of that, we were running the ball just fine in the first half and we hardly bothered with a playaction. Terrible gameplan by Cable again. If Al keeps him another year, he better force him to give up playcalling.

  • RAIDERMAN99

    armond Says:
    November 26th, 2009 at 7:01 pm
    raiderman ill entertain that question and it includes last year as well. he can throw on the run pretty well and when he decides to run he actually gets yards. he has shown some touch but he can get better. those throws to dhb and murphy back to back were beautiful. the tds against houston to chaz and jlh last year showed touch. his prettiest pass was the week before when he threw a fade to curry against the pats. he has made some plays to help win us games late in the game against the jets and buccs last year, sd and kc this year. he isnt a whiner and throws those dumpoffs better than he has gotten credit for. throwing to miller and chaz arent his problems but to dhb and murph it is. he built a connection with jlh last year but cable put those two rooks out there and everything has gone to sheit. he has his problems and he needs to fix them but grads is not making the offense much better.

    ———————————

    OK, this is a reasonable answer. You’ve seen a handfull of passes, mostly at the end of last year, and a very few passes this year that impressed you.

    You think Russell runs pretty well and throws accurately on the move.

    Fine, I don’t disagree.

    But an occasional nice pass and being semi-mobile and more accurate on the move then when in the pocket doesn’t even come close to making me think Russell is going to be a franchise QB.

    Sorry, but I’ve seen WAY too many horrible passes that convince me Russell isn’t even remotely close to having the consistent accuracy necessary to succeed.

    And again, I reiterate, Russell is a moron.

    No, not because of his southern drawl or his mohawk or his wearing dumbass ski hats on warm sunny days.

    Russell is a certified moron because of his incoherent, incomprehensible speech and quotes.

    There’s just no way an idiot like Russell that couldn’t consistently hit water if he fell out of a boat is ever going to be a prime time NFL QB.

    Yeah, he was highly touted and supposedly he’s highly talented.

    But honestly, I don’t see the talent. I see a strong arm but that’s about it. I don’t see the accuracy or any of the other intangibles that make a QB great.

    I hope I’m wrong, because the thought of watching Russell QB the Raids and playing like he did this season makes me want to puke.

  • new englandraider

    kirk morrison sux. tommy kelly is worse. i hate the gerard warren bashing. he is 10x better than kelly. wtf happened with mike mitchell? dude was on field a little, made a nice stop, blitzed on a 3rd down (incomplete) and never saw him again except on st’s. and yall seen the td to roy williams obviously cj thought he had safety help behind him. hi eugene was lined up on other side of field. bet he was fuggin lost again. gruss returning kicks? brilliant. whose turn is it next cooper carlise. a fuggin fb returning kickoffs. hey i bet langston walker would be good at that. maybe janikowski fugg it.

  • aig

    New England,

    Rather than playing Sam Williams, they should have played Mitchell in the nickel the majrity of the time. At least he wouldnt get burned like Sam Williams did.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAaQNACwaLw Raider75

    Where is Jerry with some post game news?

  • new englandraider

    gerard warren is better than tommy kelly

  • new englandraider

    asomugha cant tackle 4 shyt

  • new englandraider

    did we play a 4-4 at times. seemed as tho scott morrison howard and williams were all out there together. scott lined up quite a few times as a lb

  • aig

    you know one guy that would make a great FS at some point is Chris Johnson. He can tackle and he loves to peek at the QB. he gets burned as a corner here and there but man that boy can tackle. Too bad we are stacked at safety already. oh well. On to next week. cyall. have a great nite.

  • priesttj

    For some reason. They see some great potential in playing Gradkowski. But I’ll gaurantee you Mr Davis is not ammused. Grads wont get away with another half that looks anything like that. he’ll be pulling splinters out of his rear for the next 10 years.

    I’ll answer you Raiderman99. When I first saw Russell the first thing I notced was how well he threw on the run and his arm strength. He made some unbelieveable throws. Most were out of the pocket and on the run. Throwing bullets between defenders. Russell is struggling more with his confidence than he is with his accuracy. I say that because he throws the ball accurately to the HB’s and TE’s look at his stats.

    When Chaz and JLH were starting he wasn’t deadly accurate but got the ball to them. And most of the time they caught it. Go back and look at those games last year completely different QB totaly.

    His presence in the pocket was exceptional when he was confident. His ability to see the field was exceptinal when he was confident. His ability to hit his recievers in stide was exceptional when he was confident. his leadership skills were exceptional when he was confident. He brought LSU from behind t win 8 games in 29 starts. He brought the Raiders from behind to win games 3 times last year and this year The Jets the Bucs and KC and we should have beaten SD.

    We would’ve beaten KC if DHB doesn’t drop his TD pass with him as a starter. What you’ve seen with Russell is a very young QB srtuggling with his confidence more than anything else. Yes no question he needs to put mor work everybody knows that.

    But if you innumerate everything you look for in a QB before you draft him Russell showed that before he was drafted. Leadership wasn’t even a question. You may have question his maturity to some extent but how long des that last eventually he’ll mature. All the other attributes were there.

    Leadership, competitiveness, accuracy, makes all the throws has command in the huddle. The tougher the situations the more he competes. He did that with us. This year he lifted this team to a go ahead TD late in the SD gamea also in the KC game.

    As I said his biggest problem right now is his confidence in the players around him. If he were more confident you’d see a lot more accurate QB. A lot more you’d see what you saw last year even more.

    Get Russell 3 good WR’s to go with that TE and a running game and then I’ll take anything he turns out to be.

  • new englandraider

    priest very nice post

  • priesttj

    I would venture a guess that maybe 50% of Russell’s t/’s are really his fault but no one goes to bat for him like they do for Manning and Brady and any of the other QB’s. Everything that goes wrong with the Raiders is Russell’s fault. I saw Grads throw into coverage today and overthrow wideopen players in the 1st half with no pressure at all.

    But everyone lies and says he didn’t have time. He had plaenty of time. He just played terrible. If it’s Russell everything would’ve been blamed on him no time would not matter. Grads fumbled twice but no one a cares because he has pocket presence. lol Yeah right!

  • manassamauler

    # armond Says:
    November 26th, 2009 at 7:19 pm

    russell is gettin that money next year whether u like it or not. that shouldnt be important like his improvement. im not worried about how much he make cuz ill never have to pay him. i could care less about his money like yall do. what you worried about it for, u jealous?

    it’s not jealousy it’s more like shock!!! why should a ditch digger make a CEO wage?

  • KRAWFDADD

    EVRYBODY BASH RUSSEL EVN PEYTON MANNING WOULD STRUGGLE WRKN WITH MURPHY N DHB,THEY DNT EVN CM BK 2 THE BALL R GO UP N FIGHT 4 THE ROCK EITHR,AND MOVE KIRK BK 2 THE OUTSIDE N GET A REAL MLB,I LOVE THE RAIDERS BUT DAMMIT MAN ENUFF IS ENUFF,WE HV A TEAM FULL OF UNDERACHIEVERS………….JOHNSON NEEDS 2 STOP LOOKN N THE BACKFIELD N COVER HIS FRIGGN MAN