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Postgame wrap

News, notes and quotes following the Raiders 24-7 loss to the Dallas Cowboys at Cowboys Stadium:

– “Stop, stop, boom.”

That’s how Raiders defensive tackle Tommy Kelly described an Oakland defense that spent the week working on preventing big plays, and then gave up a staggering 384 yards on 10 snaps against the Cowboys.

It all started when running back Tashard Choice, taking direct snap from center, found a hole up the middle and ran 66 yards in the first quarter.

The Cowboys had 195 yards on 25 carries with 144 of those coming on three plays _ the run by Choice, a 46-yard touchdown run by Felix Jones and a 32-yard run by Marion Barber.

In the passing game, Miles Austin caught 145 yards worth of passes on seven receptions, with a long of 49 yards. Tight end Jason Witten, playing at left than full speed with a foot sprain which nearly kept him out of the game, had five catches for 107 yards including a 44-yard reception and a 37-yard reception.

Cornerback Nnamdi Asomugha and Cowboys coach Wade Phillips seemed to be of the opinion that the Raiders man-to-man defense made things too easy for the Cowboys.

“We’ve had a few games like this year, people scheming us and finding big plays on us,” free safety Michael Huff said. “I think once one comes, we start to think more and play outside our game, and then they hit us with another one and another one. I don’t really know what it is. We’ll watch film the next day and see what happened, but as its going on, we don’t realize it.”

Said Richard Seymour, who may as well have been reading from the same script from years past as Warren Sapp, said: “I think it all starts in practice, understanding where you’re supposed to be, doing what you’re supposed to do and taking care of your job. I can’t take care of someone else’s job and someone else can’t take care of mine. Everybody has to take responsibility for their play on the field and we have to get better as a group.”

– Read why the Thanksgiving Day loss was particularly galling to Raiders owner Al Davis in my column for Bay Area News Group-East Bay.

– On offense, the Raiders too a handful of shots downfield and came up with little, with most of the damage coming underneath and on shorter patterns. Not surprising, really, because the Raiders have not been a good deep throwing team all year and it’s not what is best suited for starter Bruce Gradkowski.

“There were plays there to be made downfield and I didn’t make them,” Gradkowski said.

– The Raiders unveiled a new defensive wrinkle by starting Trevor Scott at weakside linebacker in place of Thomas Howard, although Howard played plenty as Scott played in different areas of the defense.

On some plays, Scott was designated as an “elephant” pass rusher, a term the 49ers used for Charles Haley when John Marshall was defensive coordinator with the 49ers.

Only twice, however, did Scott line up with his hand down like a defensive lineman.

“A few days ago they said they wanted me to start at (Will) this game so I was like, `all right, let’s run with it,’ ” Scott said. “If it’s an opportunity to get on the field, so be it. Some guys don’t feel comfortable in a two-point stance, so if they stick with it, great.”

Scott had five tackles, two sacks, three tackles for losses, three quarterback hurries and made a special teams tackle.

He also collided with Tyvon Branch pursing a Tony Romo deflection on a play which could have resulted in a touchdown return for Branch.

– Running back Darren McFadden had 43 yards on 14 carries and had a 16-yard catch out of the slot. It was the most snaps McFadden has seen split wide this season.

– Cornerback Chris Johnson remains a true believer.

“Once we get back to sound football and doing everything like we’re supposed to, I still stick to my guns,” Johnson said. I don’t think there’s a team that can actually beat us if we play sound football.

– The Raiders opened the game strong on the ground, with Justin Fargas gaining 52 yards on six carries in the first quarter and only “ yards on six carries afterward. Michael Bush, after last week’s fumble, was de-emphasized, with just eight yards on three carries.

– Darrius Heyward-Bey got his first touchdown on a 4-yard catch from Gradkowski, with his next step catching a deep ball. He added a 17-yard reception later in the game. He got solid reviews from his quarterback and Cable. He has nine receptions for 124 yards in 10 games.

– Punter Shane Lechler kicked nine times for a 54.8 average and 46.3 net and is currently at 51.9 for the season, ahead of Sammy Baugh’s all-time mark of 51.4 set in 1940.

– More misery on kickoff returns _ Gary Russell replaced Jonathan Holland and had 15 yards on his only attempt, essentially stopping at a wall of defenders at the 17. Tony Stewart fielded a short kick for 11 yards.

– The Raiders overcame a 15-yard chop block penalty on Robert Gallery to persevere an score on their lone scoring drive, something they almost never do.

Gradkowski hit Murphy on a 23-yard pass to the 1, with Gallery’s penalty pushing it back to the 13. Gradkowski had a 21-yard scramble which helped the Raiders make up some of the yardage.

– Defensive end Greg Ellis didn’t finish the game because of swelling in his knee. He had just two tackles in his homecoming game.

“I don’t know what happened. I just know swelling, a lot of pressure, going down my leg, going down my knee down my shin and my calf. I don’t know if I did something during the game,’’ Ellis said. “It started off swelling some but that’s to be expected coming off the scope but when we started playing, it was just killing me.

“That’s pretty much it. I don’t have a lot of answers for it. Obviously I hate it, coming back to my ext-team and can’t play the whole game. That’s not good.’’

Anthony Spencer, the player who replaced Ellis and has been under some heat because he came into the game with no sacks, had two of the Cowboys’ three against Gradkowski. DeMarcus Ware had the other against Mario Henderson.

Ware generally got the better of Henderson all day, with four quarterback hurries.

Cornerback Tyvon Branch, who came up huge last week against Cincinnati, had just two tackles and a pass defensed. He also drew a stare from Johnson, who was expecting help inside, on a 6-yard pass from Romo to Roy Williams for a touchdown.

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  • new englandraider

    thec, i dont think mitchell was a wasted pick. he is around the ball whenever he has a CHANCE to play. in the few times he’s had to cover, havent seen him give up one reception. havent seen him lost or out of postion like hi eugene. granted his playing time is minimal at best, he will be a beast. and he wanted to level austin on that td. gave him a little bit of a hit but pulled up knowing he’d get flagged for a late hit

  • new englandraider

    morrison and kelly are just awful.

  • Larz

    Line play was average for most part.

    When you give up 80% of your yardage on 10% of your plays it means they have the ability to compete.

    Dominate “no” but compete yes.

    O-line does need a revamp we all knew that coming in.

    Did it cost us that game no.

    Lack of a go to receiver cost us that game 3rd down conversions Romo hit Gradikowski did not.

  • Thec07

    new englandraider Says:
    November 27th, 2009 at 9:51 am

    Not saying I dont like mitchell, I really do like him and have stated so a number of times. To me it is wasted because we had bigger needs.

    We could have used that pick on a DT. Brace comes to mind. why did we give Brace to NE pats?

  • Thec07

    So if we knew the lines neede to be revamped why havent we address this glaring need over the last 3 years?

    Skill players are a dime a dozen…. Yet the skill players we draft have serious issues.

    I said it when we drafted DMAC, he has no s wivel.
    DHB < britt, nicks, macklin, crabtree, and Dez B who is still technically a JR in college.

  • Larz

    All of the O-line draft picks are dominating the league this year?

    Nope and we have Mario that cost a fraction of what signing them would have been. And he is more than servicable.
    That may have been the best D-line in football he went up against yesterday.

    Anyone that drafts a RT or Guard in the first round should be committed.

  • Larz

    205

    One word “Cable”

  • Thec07

    Why take a known project WR when you have a bazillion problems else where?

  • new englandraider

    i’d like to see more of the three safety looks. mitch, huff, and branch. one of those guys should be able to cover a little. saw kirk get caught with austin twice yesterday and howard had him too. no way should our lb’s be attempting to cover the other teams best weapon. morrison was constantly on marshall in the denver game. why do we do this? it makes no sense. every week we have one of our lb’s on the other best option. its mind boggling

  • exlaraiderseasonticketholder

    I developed major indigestion and lost my appetite for desert after the chop block by Gallery. WTF was he thinking. What a brain fart.

  • Thec07

    Larz Says:
    November 27th, 2009 at 9:59 am
    All of the O-line draft picks are dominating the league this year?

    Nope and we have Mario that cost a fraction of what signing them would have been. And he is more than servicable.
    That may have been the best D-line in football he went up against yesterday.

    Anyone that drafts a RT or Guard in the first round should be committed.

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Agreed, would never draft a RT or a G in the first or 2nd rd. But that just 2 of the areas of need.

    Are we satisfied with our starting LB’s?
    Are we Satisfied with our starting DT’s?
    Are we satisfied with the depth at either postition?

  • 4evaRaider

    Cable doesnt like rookie O-linemen…the way he trades for vets is a dead give-away…no rookies on O-line.Now on defense that is a different situation…D-Line guys you can plug in,imo…not O-line unless we had a O-line that played together 4 years and we dont.We will see how Cable gets new linemen next F/A.But I think we will draft MLB and DT’s…Maybe they think Slade Norriss is a MLB

  • Thec07

    Larz Says:
    November 27th, 2009 at 9:59 am
    All of the O-line draft picks are dominating the league this year?

    Nope and we have Mario that cost a fraction of what signing them would have been. And he is more than servicable.
    That may have been the best D-line in football he went up against yesterday.

    Anyone that drafts a RT or Guard in the first round should be committed.

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
    are any of our first round picks dominating this year?
    Have we won anything drafting skill players?

    NOPE…

  • aig

    Cable is a horrible playcaller. if we keep him, then please force him to give up playcalling.

    We run the ball well in the first qtr, no playaction

    Grad gets heat, doesnt have throwing lanes (cuz he short), no roll outs.

    dhb cant catch or estimate long passes, no quick screens or reverses.

    Sam Williams cant cover. No 3 safteties to cover.

  • Thec07

    DHB = Fools Gold
    DMAC = Fools Gold
    BRL = Black Ryan Leaf

  • Thec07

    MR. Davis = The Fool with the Gold…

  • Canadian Raider

    WHO knows what QBs are availabe as free agents, actually all available free agents. I can tell you one thing the D line men are getter better evry game youngs guys come in and are hungry after the QB. On the other hand as soon as a back breaks through the line the Linebackers on our team are the easist to block against. These guys are absolutely brutal. I tape all the raider games as a hobby and went and watched a couple of games this morning with a bad hangover. You should see the Jets game and the SD games the line pushes hard but these line backers constantly cant see where the rb cuts to, no instinct at all.

  • Larz

    The only option I see for this team is to sign a veteran receiver.

    Draft the best NT available to build on, and fill the roster with good young LB prospects.

    Personally I am no great advocate of the 3-4 but it will give you more looks and better coverage options.

    The direction has to change and LB are easier to aquire than 300 lb lottery tickets.

    Thats if you want to improve fast.
    Other option is wait for the receivers to develop and pray.

  • aig

    Canadian,

    you are dead on about “instincts” of our LB. The big plays usually happen because our LB’s can’t find the RB. yesterday, Morrison overplayed Felix Jones on his run for the TD. He overran him cuz he couldnt find him.

    Howard, entered the game, and immediately lost Marion Barbers coming out of the backfield for a big dump off.

  • Larz

    Amonte Toomer was on Sirus this morning.
    Someone tell me we have a better WR on our roster than him during preseason.

    At least he could have given these guys some direction.

    The CNN doctor played JV ball, and he is the only guidence for these guys.

  • new englandraider

    we should’ve dropped gerard warren back into coverage a few times. i love it when they do that. a 350lb dt dropping into coverage. utter brilliance

  • Canadian Raider

    I was just looking online theres a lot of pretty good QBs entering the draft. It would be nice to grab one in the third round if they are still there. That qb of Texas runs like a running back.

  • 2romes

    The turkey & stuffing did not go down very well yesterday.Who will confess to the blown coverages time and time again.Will the coaches confess they get duped every week, the players?If the defensive players does not line up over each offense player for coverage do they really understand their assignments?It is apparent to me they don’t.Yes, the Raiders got their tails handed to to right up front with great offensive protection from Dallas,but why must the Raiders continue to get blown out of games simply because a offensive player was left uncovered to make hugh gains. If this major problem can be corrected the perplexity of the Raiders woes can be minimized.
    The offense had a pretty good game plan. The execution was much to be desired. McFadden & Murphy got the hands on the ball but could not come down with the ball because the were contested by Dallas DB’S.
    This play really troubled me and I could not get this out of my head. Dallas was running off the right tackle or guard and it looked like Dallas’s lineman ON HIS KNEES blocked morrison out of his gap position.If I saw this correctly, because I have not looked back at that play, if sums up the Raiders defensive afflictions.
    When the Raiders defense get to the classroom inform them of all the eligible offensive players that can catch the ball. Ya know football 101….

  • new englandraider

    who is returning the kickoffs next game? luke lawton? didnt see te myers yesterday. was he benched for the strip and recovery the game b4?

  • Canadian Raider

    Cable is returning kickoffs next game.

  • aig

    After watching that Texas A&M QB Jerrod Johnson, I think he’s going to be a steal of the draft. Put up great numbers on an awful team and he went toe to toe with Texas mcCoy yesterday.

  • new englandraider

    cable. cool. probably better than holland or gruss. who comes up with this stuff. i’ve never seen a fb return a kickoff, unless its a squib kick to the 30 rd line. weird

  • Canadian Raider

    I watching Cincy vs Illinois, Cincy scores 35 points with 3 minutes left in 2nd quarter. That QB Pike throws a ball, hes 6foot6 where do they grow these guys.

  • HairyBush

    Don’t expect a win for 2 more games…Look at the trend- 3 losses after a damn win this season! The thing that kills me the most is not just the losses, but I don’t see this getting better any time soon. I figure between our man to man scheme,Lack of qb’s,butterfiner wideouts, inconsistent coaching (among many other things) we are in deep trouble. Please someone help! I’m a raideraholic and can’t just switch teams, even though it would be so less painfull watching someone like the Saints everyweek. Please mr. Gruden or Madden or anyone Help!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Thec07

    Larz Says:
    November 27th, 2009 at 10:20 am
    Amonte Toomer was on Sirus this morning.
    Someone tell me we have a better WR on our roster than him during preseason.

    At least he could have given these guys some direction.

    The CNN doctor played JV ball, and he is the only guidence for these guys.

    +++++++++++++++++++++
    ROFLMAO…..

  • Thec07

    since weddle hit him in the sd game JLH has been useless…

  • http://blstb.msn.com/i/55/90A2853B6CFBCC2AFC987BB18B832.jpg vegas raider

    LOL at the we should have drafted Ron Brace.

    Come on Thec, the guy has 3 tackles this year. 3!!!!!!!

    Bryant has only 8 times as many tackles as him.

  • Thec07

    vegas raider Says:
    November 27th, 2009 at 10:44 am
    LOL at the we should have drafted Ron Brace.

    Come on Thec, the guy has 3 tackles this year. 3!!!!!!!

    Bryant has only 8 times as many tackles as him.

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
    I love the kid bryant, he plays well. Brace has 3 tackles why is that? He is the backup to Vince Wilfork, and is being prepped for his succesor in NE.
    Last time I checked NE was a decent football team.
    Brace on this team would have been a better pick than mitchell, IMHO….

  • los raiders de don rober

    Our Man 2 Man defensive scheme works when you call it 10% of the time, when its called 80% of the time you loose 80% of the games…simple math really.

  • los raiders de don rober

    Tommy Kelly would have been the perfect mentor for Brace. Just like Javon is doing a helluva job mentoring the “manos de piedra” twins DHB and Murphy.

  • http://www.Move2Alameda.com KoolKell

    Canadian Raider Says:
    November 27th, 2009 at 10:21 am

    I was just looking online theres a lot of pretty good QBs entering the draft. It would be nice to grab one in the third round if they are still there.
    —————————-
    Son, don’t you ever learn? Do you have a learning disability?

  • http://blstb.msn.com/i/55/90A2853B6CFBCC2AFC987BB18B832.jpg vegas raider

    Maybe Thec, maybe.

    Last I checked New England was a good team with a great QB. D is average. If Brace was good, they would find ways to get him on the field.

    Mitchell and Brace might both have meaningless NFL careers.

    (Mitchell was on the field a lot yesterday, and than read the box score today, and ZERO TACKLES!!! So point taken)

  • http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo249/the408RAIDER/749px-I-420svg.png 408RAIDER

    Yo thec you still here??

    sup Vegas??

  • http://www.Move2Alameda.com KoolKell

    BJ Raji is contributing in Green Bay.

  • Thec07

    Not just about us running man to man. what about the pathetic anemic offense based on the 1960s loginal of try to go vertical?

  • AbusedByAl

    Well, it’s basically the same postings over and over whenever I log on. Which proves there is not all that much of substance to say anymore. And I certainly include myself in there.

    The record is what it is, 3 and 8… And next week is not going to be much better. Should we finish the year in 6 and 10 it must be considered huge…

    This season is over with. A lot of headscratching will be go on again in the offseason… I repeat what I have been saying like a dead record and others as well: We must change how the org works from the top down. Al needs to cede power and let somebody else run the show (a GM, ideally empowered like Bill Parcells in Miami). I’ll admit I have no idea who a really suited candidate would be. But until then, all greatness will be sporadic at best. More likely, it will never return…

    God be with us in 10 days against the Steelers.

  • http://www.Move2Alameda.com KoolKell

    AD Flunky Shell in 06′
    AD Flunky Cable in 08′

    Same Davis schemes, same results.

  • Thec07

    408, what up Bruh?

    Last years draft we could have had Raji, Brace, and Brinkley…

    Brace > tkelly, and warren, 2nd stringer on NE, starter for the raiders…

    tkelly, and warren should be run to the cfl…

  • Canadian Raider

    Kool thats a dum statement we NEED a Quarter Back you cant win in the NFL without one. Now just because we blew the JR draft doesnt mean we dont draft a QB in the third round whos going to score points on this team. If you cant score a minimun of 21- 24 points a game your are finished in the NFL, AFC has Brady, Peyton, Rivers, Big Ben, Shaub. How are you gonig to get by these teams without a qb who can score points, the answer when they retirs.

  • Thec07

    Wilfork, and brace for that matter dont have a lot of tackles, as NE runs a 3-4. Wilfork the starter only has 30 at NT, but he is a space eater, and commands the double.

  • http://www.Move2Alameda.com KoolKell

    Canadian Raider Says:
    November 27th, 2009 at 11:06 am

    Kool thats a dum statement we NEED a Quarter Back you cant win in the NFL without one. Now just because we blew the JR draft doesnt mean we dont draft a QB in the third round whos …………..
    —————————
    How many QB’s have the Raiders developed successfully?

  • Thec07

    Stabler..

  • Thec07

    We havent delveloped a QB since the 70′s…..
    How many other NFL franchises can say that…

  • http://www.Move2Alameda.com KoolKell

    Stabler, and George Blanda taught him. Not the Raiders coaching staff.

  • 4evaRaider

    #236 lmao KK