Part of the Bay Area News Group

Postgame wrap

By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Thursday, November 26th, 2009 at 8:10 pm in Oakland Raiders.

News, notes and quotes following the Raiders 24-7 loss to the Dallas Cowboys at Cowboys Stadium:

– “Stop, stop, boom.”

That’s how Raiders defensive tackle Tommy Kelly described an Oakland defense that spent the week working on preventing big plays, and then gave up a staggering 384 yards on 10 snaps against the Cowboys.

It all started when running back Tashard Choice, taking direct snap from center, found a hole up the middle and ran 66 yards in the first quarter.

The Cowboys had 195 yards on 25 carries with 144 of those coming on three plays _ the run by Choice, a 46-yard touchdown run by Felix Jones and a 32-yard run by Marion Barber.

In the passing game, Miles Austin caught 145 yards worth of passes on seven receptions, with a long of 49 yards. Tight end Jason Witten, playing at left than full speed with a foot sprain which nearly kept him out of the game, had five catches for 107 yards including a 44-yard reception and a 37-yard reception.

Cornerback Nnamdi Asomugha and Cowboys coach Wade Phillips seemed to be of the opinion that the Raiders man-to-man defense made things too easy for the Cowboys.

“We’ve had a few games like this year, people scheming us and finding big plays on us,” free safety Michael Huff said. “I think once one comes, we start to think more and play outside our game, and then they hit us with another one and another one. I don’t really know what it is. We’ll watch film the next day and see what happened, but as its going on, we don’t realize it.”

Said Richard Seymour, who may as well have been reading from the same script from years past as Warren Sapp, said: “I think it all starts in practice, understanding where you’re supposed to be, doing what you’re supposed to do and taking care of your job. I can’t take care of someone else’s job and someone else can’t take care of mine. Everybody has to take responsibility for their play on the field and we have to get better as a group.”

– Read why the Thanksgiving Day loss was particularly galling to Raiders owner Al Davis in my column for Bay Area News Group-East Bay.

– On offense, the Raiders too a handful of shots downfield and came up with little, with most of the damage coming underneath and on shorter patterns. Not surprising, really, because the Raiders have not been a good deep throwing team all year and it’s not what is best suited for starter Bruce Gradkowski.

“There were plays there to be made downfield and I didn’t make them,” Gradkowski said.

– The Raiders unveiled a new defensive wrinkle by starting Trevor Scott at weakside linebacker in place of Thomas Howard, although Howard played plenty as Scott played in different areas of the defense.

On some plays, Scott was designated as an “elephant” pass rusher, a term the 49ers used for Charles Haley when John Marshall was defensive coordinator with the 49ers.

Only twice, however, did Scott line up with his hand down like a defensive lineman.

“A few days ago they said they wanted me to start at (Will) this game so I was like, `all right, let’s run with it,’ ” Scott said. “If it’s an opportunity to get on the field, so be it. Some guys don’t feel comfortable in a two-point stance, so if they stick with it, great.”

Scott had five tackles, two sacks, three tackles for losses, three quarterback hurries and made a special teams tackle.

He also collided with Tyvon Branch pursing a Tony Romo deflection on a play which could have resulted in a touchdown return for Branch.

– Running back Darren McFadden had 43 yards on 14 carries and had a 16-yard catch out of the slot. It was the most snaps McFadden has seen split wide this season.

– Cornerback Chris Johnson remains a true believer.

“Once we get back to sound football and doing everything like we’re supposed to, I still stick to my guns,” Johnson said. I don’t think there’s a team that can actually beat us if we play sound football.

– The Raiders opened the game strong on the ground, with Justin Fargas gaining 52 yards on six carries in the first quarter and only “ yards on six carries afterward. Michael Bush, after last week’s fumble, was de-emphasized, with just eight yards on three carries.

– Darrius Heyward-Bey got his first touchdown on a 4-yard catch from Gradkowski, with his next step catching a deep ball. He added a 17-yard reception later in the game. He got solid reviews from his quarterback and Cable. He has nine receptions for 124 yards in 10 games.

– Punter Shane Lechler kicked nine times for a 54.8 average and 46.3 net and is currently at 51.9 for the season, ahead of Sammy Baugh’s all-time mark of 51.4 set in 1940.

– More misery on kickoff returns _ Gary Russell replaced Jonathan Holland and had 15 yards on his only attempt, essentially stopping at a wall of defenders at the 17. Tony Stewart fielded a short kick for 11 yards.

– The Raiders overcame a 15-yard chop block penalty on Robert Gallery to persevere an score on their lone scoring drive, something they almost never do.

Gradkowski hit Murphy on a 23-yard pass to the 1, with Gallery’s penalty pushing it back to the 13. Gradkowski had a 21-yard scramble which helped the Raiders make up some of the yardage.

– Defensive end Greg Ellis didn’t finish the game because of swelling in his knee. He had just two tackles in his homecoming game.

“I don’t know what happened. I just know swelling, a lot of pressure, going down my leg, going down my knee down my shin and my calf. I don’t know if I did something during the game,’’ Ellis said. “It started off swelling some but that’s to be expected coming off the scope but when we started playing, it was just killing me.

“That’s pretty much it. I don’t have a lot of answers for it. Obviously I hate it, coming back to my ext-team and can’t play the whole game. That’s not good.’’

Anthony Spencer, the player who replaced Ellis and has been under some heat because he came into the game with no sacks, had two of the Cowboys’ three against Gradkowski. DeMarcus Ware had the other against Mario Henderson.

Ware generally got the better of Henderson all day, with four quarterback hurries.

Cornerback Tyvon Branch, who came up huge last week against Cincinnati, had just two tackles and a pass defensed. He also drew a stare from Johnson, who was expecting help inside, on a 6-yard pass from Romo to Roy Williams for a touchdown.

  • Share/Bookmark

[You can leave a response, or trackback from your own site.]

  • http://www.Move2Alameda.com KoolKell

    The Raiders are in the Football business, and they’re not good at teaching football.

  • Thec07

    KoolKell Says:
    November 27th, 2009 at 11:12 am
    Stabler, and George Blanda taught him. Not the Raiders coaching staff.

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Has Stabler said tht GB taught him and not the coaching staff?
    Thats Speculation at best….

  • http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo249/the408RAIDER/749px-I-420svg.png 408RAIDER

    Thec you shoud have joined our fantasy dirty is in first Im in 2nd.. Hows life??

  • Canadian Raider

    I agree with you KOOLKell that development has been brutal but If you dont develop one you will never get buy those teams until those QBs retire. You have to score points expecially in the AFC with the big numbers those other guys put up, scoring an average of 14 points a game will get you 3 wins a year max max .

  • Thec07

    KoolKell Says:
    November 27th, 2009 at 11:13 am
    The Raiders are in the Football business, and they’re not good at teaching football.

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++=

    And they are lousy at business..

  • 4evaRaider

    Thec doesnt that just “sound” fishy????????????

  • http://www.Move2Alameda.com KoolKell

    Blown assignments and gaps, every week, every year, Coach in, Coach out, C’mon.

    They’re not good at teaching football or coaching football.

  • 4evaRaider

    Dirty and da 408 put a league together…and they in first and second place hmmm

  • http://blstb.msn.com/i/55/90A2853B6CFBCC2AFC987BB18B832.jpg vegas raider

    Thec07 Says:
    November 27th, 2009 at 11:04 am

    Last years draft we could have had Raji, Brace, and Brinkley

    **************************************

    Yes and if we add the three of them, they still don’t have as many tackles or TFL as Howard Bryant.

    You got to stop reading Florida Pete as scripture. Brinkley isn’t any good, Brace is going to end up the year with around 10 tackles, and we have 2 D-lineman (Shannessey and Bryant) who are running circles around all 3 of those.

  • http://blstb.msn.com/i/55/90A2853B6CFBCC2AFC987BB18B832.jpg vegas raider

    What’s happening 408??!!?? Happy post-turkey day to you and yours.

  • http://www.Move2Alameda.com KoolKell

    Has Stabler said tht GB taught him and not the coaching staff?
    Thats Speculation at best….
    ————————-
    True, but I was watching.

  • Thec07

    408,

    Life is very good, it is what you make of it. I miss the playing the FF. Could have probable played but business has been quit hectic. watch my Brother dirty he doent have that name for nothing. He is a low down dirty ese…Keep an eye on him…. He probable cheated in the draft.

    How have you been?

  • Canadian Raider

    Kool Iam the first guy on this site who hated when Cable got hired. I can call better offensive plays then him. He has no imagination on how to confuse a Defense. I will watch a game with my buddies and we are predicting what plays Cable calls. Now if we can predict plays imagine the other teams. The worst move he made was calling the plays, I wouldnt let him call highschool plays.

  • http://blstb.msn.com/i/55/90A2853B6CFBCC2AFC987BB18B832.jpg vegas raider

    So we have a crappy O-line, no good WR’s, an awful coach and a “garbage” QB. Than how did we pass for 200 yards?

    If Peyton or Brees was QB yesterday, they would have each completed a few more passes than Bruce, and what got close to 300 yards passing? How is that possibly if literally everyone sucks? Something has got to give.

  • Thec07

    vegas raider Says:
    November 27th, 2009 at 11:16 am
    Thec07 Says:
    November 27th, 2009 at 11:04 am

    Last years draft we could have had Raji, Brace, and Brinkley

    **************************************

    Yes and if we add the three of them, they still don’t have as many tackles or TFL as Howard Bryant.

    You got to stop reading Florida Pete as scripture. Brinkley isn’t any good, Brace is going to end up the year with around 10 tackles, and we have 2 D-lineman (Shannessey and Bryant) who are running circles around all 3 of those.

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    The gospel according to Pete….LOL…
    Vegas Bro, i am not saying i dont like the young guys, never said that. but you know its not just about who has the most tackles….

  • Thec07

    KoolKell Says:
    November 27th, 2009 at 11:18 am
    Has Stabler said tht GB taught him and not the coaching staff?
    Thats Speculation at best….
    ————————-
    True, but I was watching.

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++=

    So was I…

  • http://www.Move2Alameda.com KoolKell

    If Peyton or Brees was QB yesterday, they would have each completed a few more passes than Bruce, and what got close to 300 yards passing?
    —————————-
    ???????????????????????????

  • http://blstb.msn.com/i/55/90A2853B6CFBCC2AFC987BB18B832.jpg vegas raider

    I know it isn’t about the tackles THEC, my whole point has alwasy been it isn’t what positions we are taking that is the issue in the draft, it is WHO we are drafting.

    DHB stinks, and we could have had Eugene Monroe, but obviously the best rookie is Percy Harvin and he would have improved both our ST and Offense dramatically. What would Monroe really do to help?

    Wrong player, right position.

    McFadden looks very pedestrian and we probably didn’t need a RB in 2008. But if we had Chris Johnson, we would be golden.

    But I’ll met you in the middle, BJ Raji would help our team a lot more than DHB will. Raji struggled at first, but seems to be rounding into shape. He will be a good pro, DHB..I don’t know. Even when he catches the ball there is a seriously loud THUD to it, LOL.

  • http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo249/the408RAIDER/749px-I-420svg.png 408RAIDER

    # vegas raider Says:
    November 27th, 2009 at 11:17 am

    What’s happening 408??!!?? Happy post-turkey day to you and yours.
    ————————-

    Back @ ya bro.. I havent been commenting in here cuz I got sick of all the crybabies.. This RAIDER NATION 4 LIFE.. If them sissyz cant hand they should find another team 2 root 4..

  • SnB offense defense specialteams

    Florida Pete was right on. YOu guys are just as guilty..falling for the B.S of 40x and the “next great playah”

    Well, its all on display. Our D-Line is still terrible and the linebackers can’t make plays. Once again, the safeties lead the league in tackles at their position.

    The Raiders will not win unitl Davis steps down. The talent on this team is overrated.

    7 years of 10+ losses.

    Yet you all blame the players…..LOL

  • http://blstb.msn.com/i/55/90A2853B6CFBCC2AFC987BB18B832.jpg vegas raider

    KoolKell Says:
    November 27th, 2009 at 11:24 am
    If Peyton or Brees was QB yesterday, they would have each completed a few more passes than Bruce, and what got close to 300 yards passing?
    —————————-
    ???????????????????????????

    *****************************

    There was at least 3 terrible passes by Gradkowski that were on him. Any top-level NFL QB makes those throws. Add those to Bruce’s 200 yards and you got close to 300 yards passing with a decent NFL QB.

    If that is possible, the WR’s, O-line and play-calling can’t all suck. That’s not possible for everyone to suck and still toss the ball around for 300 yards, no matter what the score is.

  • http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo249/the408RAIDER/749px-I-420svg.png 408RAIDER

    Thec well @ least you got work.. Im glad all is well (cept 4 our beloved RAIDER) Im doin great Maybe next year you can join up.. Some 1 has to watch dirty

  • 4evaRaider

    lmao Thec!!!

  • 4evaRaider

    and so was the Shadow

  • Thec07

    Vegas I Feel ya 100 Bro…

  • Thec07

    vegas raider Says:
    November 27th, 2009 at 11:26 am
    I know it isn’t about the tackles THEC, my whole point has alwasy been it isn’t what positions we are taking that is the issue in the draft, it is WHO we are drafting.

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
    Agreed…

  • SnB offense defense specialteams

    Gradkowski is no NFL QB. That was on display today and will be on display the remainder of training cam….(err the regular season).

    Next year the Raiders need to…but won’t:

    1. Fire Tom Cable
    2. Trade for an NFL veteran (Campbell, K. Clemmens, Vick, St. Pierre, Grossman, Rosenfelds, T. Jackson)
    3. Draft — DT, MLB/RT, RT/MLB
    4. Sign vet receiver
    5. Hire a GM (actually without this step all steps above are null and void!)

  • Thec07

    4eva, what up Bruh? for all i know dirty could be the shadow…

  • http://www.Move2Alameda.com KoolKell

    There was at least 3 terrible passes by Gradkowski that were on him. Any top-level NFL QB makes those throws. Add those to Bruce’s 200 yards and you got close to 300 yards passing with a decent NFL QB.
    —————————–
    C’mon man.

    If if’s and buts were candy and nuts…………………

  • http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo249/the408RAIDER/749px-I-420svg.png 408RAIDER

    Big Al’s still my guy!!! He is just my guy who sux @ running our team…

  • Thec07

    SNB, spot on as usual, I would also like to see Mr. Davis trask, herrera, taylor fired.

  • Thec07

    All you guys enjoy the rest of your weekend, and be safe….

  • 4evaRaider

    U2 Thec

  • http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo249/the408RAIDER/749px-I-420svg.png 408RAIDER

    Thec

    cant fire big al dude

  • http://blstb.msn.com/i/55/90A2853B6CFBCC2AFC987BB18B832.jpg vegas raider

    Looking at these rookie tackle totals are pretty interesting.

    Peria Jerry- 1
    Ziggy Hood- 3
    Ron Brace- 3
    Brandon Meyers- 4 (LOL)
    Aaron Maybin- 6
    Jasper Brinkley- 9
    BJ Raji- 15
    Matt Shaughnessy- 16
    Desmond Bryant- 23
    Clay Matthews- 29
    Rey-Rey 42
    Cushing- 88 (Wow, perfect combine warrior that Al could have taken, except DHB is fast)

  • http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo249/the408RAIDER/749px-I-420svg.png 408RAIDER

    Vegas

    You bashing on big AL again??? LOL

  • http://blstb.msn.com/i/55/90A2853B6CFBCC2AFC987BB18B832.jpg vegas raider

    Gary Russell may have been the fattest guy ever to return a kick yesterday.

  • 4evaRaider

    Shaunessy and Bryant hell yeahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

  • new englandraider

    i was hoping we drafted cushing. there was a pre draft show feauturin him and a couple others. craptree i think may have been one. not sure. poke too much smot and cant remember things. wanted him, harvin or maclin. we’d be a little better with harvin or cush. obviously.

  • SnB offense defense specialteams

    408RAIDER Says:
    November 27th, 2009 at 11:39 am
    Big Al’s still my guy!!! He is just my guy who sux @ running our team…
    =======================================================
    I just want to win. When do we starting winning? Hell, when do we start competing again?

    Outside of a brief respite with Gruden/Allen…its been 18 years of seasons like this!

  • SnB offense defense specialteams

    vegas raider Says:
    November 27th, 2009 at 11:48 am
    Looking at these rookie tackle totals are pretty interesting.

    Peria Jerry- 1
    Ziggy Hood- 3
    Ron Brace- 3
    Brandon Meyers- 4 (LOL)
    Aaron Maybin- 6
    Jasper Brinkley- 9
    BJ Raji- 15
    Matt Shaughnessy- 16
    Desmond Bryant- 23
    Clay Matthews- 29
    Rey-Rey 42
    Cushing- 88 (Wow, perfect combine warrior that Al could have taken, except DHB is fast)
    =======================================================
    Darius Heyward-Bey—9 rec

  • http://blstb.msn.com/i/55/90A2853B6CFBCC2AFC987BB18B832.jpg vegas raider

    How about Dick Seymoure’s right-hook tackle for a loss yesterday?

    That was pretty cool.

  • new englandraider

    lolvegas. u aint kiddin man. wtf was up with that? dude looked like he ate 3 turkeys himself b4 kickoff. i told my dad b4 ko that someone else was gonna return kicks. man was i happy. thought 4 sure it be dmac or dhb. then i see 22 and im like nah, im buggin. nope. gruss returning kicks. what a fantastic idea. yep thats putting your best option out there. is it not?

  • SnB offense defense specialteams

    408RAIDER Says:
    November 27th, 2009 at 11:46 am
    Thec

    cant fire big al dude
    ======================================================
    So we keep losing?

  • http://www.Move2Alameda.com KoolKell

    Yeah, I noticed that pot-bellied dude standing back there waiting for a kick.

  • SnB offense defense specialteams

    new englandraider Says:
    November 27th, 2009 at 11:55 am
    i was hoping we drafted cushing. there was a pre draft show feauturin him and a couple others. craptree i think may have been one. not sure. poke too much smot and cant remember things. wanted him, harvin or maclin. we’d be a little better with harvin or cush. obviously
    =======================================================
    What was Cushing’s 40x?

    How much he benchpress?

    Al Davis does not draft football players at the top of the draft. He gets workout warriors

  • SnB offense defense specialteams

    The team reflects Tom Cable…

    QB: Bruce Gradkowski
    RB: Justin Fargas
    WR: Darius Heyward-Bey
    RT: Cornell Green
    RG: Cooper Carlisle
    FS: Hiram Eugene

    Cable had his guys out there today!

  • new englandraider

    sometimes i think half of these guys wanna win. and i wont say the other half wanna lose, but at times you’ve got too ? the effort, the desire, and even their inability to learn from their mistakes. like morrison out of position or taking poor angles. or aso’s dive at the shins and miss every part of the guy tackle attempt. putting eugene on the field is not good. period. name 1 positive play he’s made on defense and i’ll name 7-10 from MM in less action. coach plays his favorites at some positions, and not necessarily the better talent.

  • DIRT-LOT FOOTBALL

    REPORT; TIGER WOOD’S SERIOUSLY HURT IN CAR CRASH IN FRONT OF FLORIDA HOME…

  • http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo249/the408RAIDER/749px-I-420svg.png 408RAIDER

    SnB offense defense specialteams

    yep yep and yep.. I understand your frustration.. Not every 1 is cut out to be part of RAIDER NATION!! Me Im ride or Die bout my football team.. You gotta take the good with the bad.. Or in our case the bad with the worse.. Either way its NATION 4 life!!!