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Tom Cable Q&A

By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Friday, November 27th, 2009 at 2:25 pm in Oakland Raiders.

A transcription of coach Tom Cable’s press briefing Friday the day after a 24-7 loss to the Dallas Cowboys:

(I was traveling from Dallas and did not attend)

Cable: Quick injury update from the game. Greg Ellis was the only one who didn’t finish. Had some fluid on his knee. Ike Ekejiuba, really no worse for wear. Took another shot to the knee. It’s just basically a pretty good bruise. Cornell Green sprained an ankle, doesn’t look to be too serious.

Q: Is there a common theme to the big plays allowed?

Cable: There’s a couple of miscommunications. More than anything, we’re a man team, play press coverage, and we didn’t really play them up real tight. The runs, really, were empty gaps, people not defending the gap properly. But just too many of them. That’s really the tale of the game defensively. Offensively, ran it pretty consistent. Threw it OK, threw it better than last week, but still, against a good team like that on the road, you’ve got to throw a little bit better. And some of that, I think more in the first half just getting untracked. That’s progressing, and special teams was very solid it seemed like all day in terms of covering. Really didn’t get much chance to return. Just really too much to fight back from, too much to overcome.

Q: Was the short week a factor defensively in terms of communication?

Cable: Well, you hope not. They had to do the same thing. So I wouldn’t make an excuse like that. We just did not get it done there.

Q: What was behind the decision to move Trevor, have him play (weak side linebacker)? And do you anticipate doing that more?

Cable: I thought for what we asked him to do, he played well. The only difference in what we had done in weeks past is just stand him up more, not so much on the end but behind he line of scrimmage. Really it just gives us a little more physicalness. We figured going in that they would really try to run the football.

Q: Is that something you anticipate doing more of?

Cable: I think it’s something after looking at it on film was a positive thing and certainly will get better.

Q: Can you address struggles in the passing game with Bruce Gradkowski?

Cable: I would think that’s the only thing I would probably relate to the short week. It’s just the timing of our passing game. You know, it’s better this week than the week before, but like you just said, when you look at it on film, it’s literally a foot here a foot there from being a heck of a throw and a great completion. So if you look at that, that’s something that will just naturally get better and better. But that’s an exciting part of our team, because you can see it coming now.

Q: When you look at the tape, how was the protection?

Cable: Good. You know there was one sack early, we stepped up into one right there at the end of the first half, and then just the one in the second half. A couple of times he got a little antsy in there, but again, Mario’s playing a great player who got him one time. He got him on an over-set. We had a double with a tight end and a back, and it got split, and then one time just pushing up in the pocket. I think it was Spencer came underneath someone.

Q: Any consideration of moving the pocket so that Gradkowski can utilize his mobility?

Cable: Absolutely. But if you look at the width of their ends in this game, they were ready for that. Definitely. It was going to be part of the plan was to move him, but they were playing those guys, if you noticed, backside end was never a factor in our run game.

Q: You said pass protection was ‘good’, what was the grade?

Cable: What would the grade be on protection?

Q: Yeah.

Cable: I’d say ‘B’. You know, it was, for that group of guys, you had three other hurries. That’s really pretty productive against that particular group.

Q: Kelly said the front seven needs to get their act together in terms of communication and being on the same page . . .

Cable: Well I think, communication is all 11. You know, it’s getting the call, the huddle call, being able to get lined up, and fitting off each other, playing in front and behind each other, all the things it takes to be gap sound. You know the thing I took–one of the quotes I saw from him was, ‘We’re stopping them, we’re stopping, we’re stopping them, then bang!’ And that’s a very true statement. You know, you see a lot of high integrity defense, fitting it right, tackling it well, and then the next thing you know, bang, something comes out.

Q: Is that a thing where guys are relaxing after the two good plays?

Cable: When that happens it’s a person letting up somewhere in there, whether it’s a lack of focus or concentration or maybe over-running something, that’s part of it, too, is maybe you understand what it is and what you’re doing but you may get a little antsy and overrun it.

Q: What’s a successful week in terms of points allowed?

Cable: If you’re in that 14-17 range you’re doing pretty well in this league. If you’re doing better than that you’re probably one of the very top defenses. It gives you a chance to go out, offensively, and score two touchdowns and two field goals to have a chance to win it. I think we’re capable of doing that.

Q: Bush no carries in first half?

Cable: Really if you look at how we started the game and you start looking at how those three guys are used, look at how we started the game with the two tailbacks in the game at the same time and using some spread formation, and then a lot of three wide receiver with one back. I think nothing more than we started the game that way.

Q: His fumble vs Cincy had nothing to do with it?

Cable: No.

Q: How is Chaz and does he have the burst he had before the injury?

Cable: Looks like it. He seemed to be very much in control of what he’s doing out there and so for him to be back like that, that’s a real positive.

Q: Is Fargas a guy you can hold up as an example?

Cable: Sure I do. In terms of a bellcow, he brings it every day, practice, game day, loves to play, plays inspired football whether he’s getting it or not. If he’s out there protecting, blocking, catching it, whatever, you’re going to get 100 percent from that guy. He definitely would be an example.

Q: Will Bruce start against Pittsburgh?

Cable: Yes.

Q: How much did TD help DHB’s confidence?

Cable: As I mentioned after the game, every time those young guys do something like that, score a touchdown, hit a couple of big plays, go through a game without s drop, whatever that is. Those are breakthroughs and you just want to keep piling them up and pretty soon that confidence factor will kick in and you got what you wanted.

Q: Did you sense relief from DHB after TD?

Cable: Sure. I think it’s exciting any time a guys scores his first touchdown in the NFL. It’s a big deal for those guys.

Q: Worried about losing guys?

Cable: No. I mentioned this a couple weeks ago. The character of this team is really too strong. I just feel like we’ll go to work every day and put forth the right effort, put forth what it takes to succeed. It’s just a matter of being more stubborn than that negative emotion or negative feeling.

Q: Did you see improvement this week?

Cable: Parts of it. Look at the 5-something average per rush. The completions were up, throwing the ball for 200 yards, again another touchdown pass, some things that we haven’t had here. Those numbers are starting to come where they should be or need to be for us to successful. It gets back to continuity to solve your problems. That’s getting more chunk yardage, big plays in the passing game, and more consistent defense.

Q: How much does running game success a result of Bruce?

Cable: Yeah I think it bodes well for the run game but it also helps the passing game too. As I mentioned earlier, they weren’t going to let us run the boot game or move the quarterback and reverse stuff because they were playing two, three yards outside the tackle and tight end. They just weren’t going to let us do it. That’s space. By alignment they are creating space for us. It definitely is starting to complement each other.

Q: What will you do with extra time, rest or more practice?

Cable: Both. We’ll have an extra day again on Monday so we’ll take advantage of that, introduce Pittsburgh, come back Wednesday, Thursday, Friday like we normally would and travel on Friday. It will be pretty similar to a normal week with the added day of Monday.

Q: Weekend off?

Cable: We’ll be back in Sunday.

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  • islandraider

    I’ve said this before. Why won’t Al pay a gm and hc good money to do a good job and just sit back and enjoy the product. Why can’t he clearly see each year he sets records for futility. I can only think maybe he truly does not see how bad his team is, has no grasp of reality, and maybe his jabust has fried his mind. But get ready. Maybe he’ll awake totally exhausted from all this losing and realize he needs help.

  • aig

    OK let’s talk some positives.

    1. What did you guys think of Trevor Scott’s elephant and the benching of Howard?

    2. Is Huff a keeper now?

  • aig

    island,

    stubborn people are their own worst enemy. The more people say Al can’t do it the deeper he digs in to show people he can do it. Sad but true.

  • http://none The Real MaddenRaider

    Aig, you’re boycotting all of pro sports? That’s interesting. Why do you even care, then? Heck, I’m not boycotting all of sports. In fact, soon as Davis is gone, I’m not even boycotting the Raiders. But you say you’re boycotting all of pro sports, yet you still follow the NFL and the Raiders? What’s the deal with that?

  • http://none The Real MaddenRaider

    # aig Says:
    November 27th, 2009 at 6:12 pm

    OK let’s talk some positives.

    1. What did you guys think of Trevor Scott’s elephant and the benching of Howard?

    2. Is Huff a keeper now?

    ……………….

    What’s the point?

    They’re both overpaid athletes.

    Aren’t you boycotting them?

    If they play well, their agents will only be able to demand even more inflated salaries for them.

    Same goes for Gradkowski.

    Why do you want him to succeed? He’ll just sign an inflated contract somewhere, right?

    Why are you rooting for the people you’re boycotting? I’ve never heard of this! Dude, what is up with you?

  • aig

    Mr.

    I boycott the full price purchasing of their apparel or paying full price for tickets. Now I will attend games like I did last season vs Houston when I found stubhub tix for less than $10 per seat. I think that rather than going to play golf I can be at the game for less than $10. but you will never find me paying full price for anything relating to sports. I found hats for the sharks and warriors at $4.95 on ebay. They are just as good as $20 hats you buy from a sports store. I bought a jersey once for $20 nfl authentic on ebay. it was a Lamont Jordan Jersey #34. I took his name off and put my own name on. I didnt pay $200 full price for it. I like mitchell and bo jackson but I find it weird to wear another man’s name on your back. I’d rather put my own name on it.

  • http://none The Real MaddenRaider

    aig Says:
    November 27th, 2009 at 6:07 pm

    4. The only contribution i make to professional sports is watching them which helps them make more advertising revenue.

    ……………

    So, you’re boycotting the players, because they’re overpaid, but you’re not boycotting television producers and ad executives? Are they not overpaid? Football players risk serious injury, including paralysis, in many instances, even death, while ad execs sit in a room for a few hours figuring out ways to dupe people out of more money, and then go out for cocktails. And, you’re ok with them getting your money, but not players? And besides, genius, the players get money from advertising, too. From their product endorsements. It’s the same industry. The only way to boycott pro sports is to have nothing to do with pro sports, like Kurt Vonnegut or Einstein. Get the F out of here. You are the most ridiculous person I’ve ever seen in here. You’re so full of it that it’s unreal. Boycotting pro athletes…and you spend your days on a Raiders blog looking for “positive” things about Raiders’ players. I’m laughing so hard right now that if I were drunk I’d be p i ssing right down my leg. You’re a riot.

  • aig

    Here in Memphis, I go watch the Warriors when they come to town for less than $10. I tip the usher at half time $10 and he gets me on the first floor. I’d rather take care of those ushers who makes minimum wages than pay full price for first floor seats. The Grizzs here never sold out and even on opening nite.

  • aig

    Mr.

    I’m no angel bro. I am addicted to sports but I LIMIT my contribution to their overpaid salary from owners to everyone involved. I pay what I think is a fair contribution for my entertainment. cool?

  • http://none The Real MaddenRaider

    aig Says:
    November 27th, 2009 at 6:22 pm

    Mr.

    I boycott the full price purchasing of their apparel or paying full price for tickets. Now I will attend games

    ……………

    HE BOYCOTTS ALL PRO ATHLETES, YET STILL ATTENDS RAIDER GAMES!!!!!!

    GET THIS GUY ON A STAGE, BEFORE THE CARNIVAL SNATCHES HIM!

    HAVE ANY OF YOU EVER HEARD OF THIS????

    I CAN’T BELIEVE WHAT I’M READING.

    A DAVIS SHILL WHO COMES IN HERE EVERY DAY TO BLOW SUNSHINE ABOUT THE PROMISING TALENT IN THE SILVER AND BLACK IS ACTUALLY EFFECTIVELY BOYCOTTING ALL OF PRO SPORTS, OH, IT’S JUST THAT HE ATTENDS GAMES, AND STILL WATCHES TELECASTS. HE ALSO MAKES CERTAIN TO SUPPORT THE ADVERTISERS FOR THEIR HARD WORK. THERE SHOULD BE A PICTURE OF AIG IN THE DICTIONARY NEXT TO “WTF?!?!”

  • SnB offense defense specialteams

    aig Says:
    November 27th, 2009 at 6:12 pm
    OK let’s talk some positives.

    1. What did you guys think of Trevor Scott’s elephant and the benching of Howard?

    2. Is Huff a keeper now?
    =======================================================
    I don’t like moving this kid too much. Lets get him trained on a position before he’s stretched too thin.

    Huff: Great that he’s serviceable now…..too bad he can’t beat Eugene for a starting job. 7th overall pick!!!

  • http://none The Real MaddenRaider

    aig Says:
    November 27th, 2009 at 6:28 pm

    Mr.

    I’m no angel bro. I am addicted to sports

    ………….

    What an effective boycott, huh?

    A self proclaimed sports addict boycotting sports.

    He doesn’t believe in the players salaries. They’re being paid too much. Can’t say the same for the ad execs. They’re underpaid, in his view, so he tries to watch televised games as much as possible to make sure those poor souls can feed their families. But the athletes will get none of it! Not even Gradkowski, who he loves. He wants the Raiders to do well, he wants the players to succeed, even though he knows their success will result in higher salaries. It’s a confusing paradox. But he gets by.

    And to think, he even managed to dig up some high school stats to make a case for one of these players that he’s boycotting!

    Dear aig,

    KEEP THE BOYCOTT COMING!

    Sincerely,

    The NFLPA

  • http://none The Real MaddenRaider

    OK, in all seriousness, people, if you want to boycott Al Davis, don’t give him your money. Aig sets a poor example of what boycotting is really all about. The idea is to NOT give the person you’re boycotting your money.

    So, again, there is something Raider fans can do about Al Davis. Stop giving your money to him, period. That’s something, right there. Every customer lost hurts Al Davis because these days his customer volume is not going up.

  • aig

    snb,

    I thought huff is finally starting now. Man, his game yesterday was good I thought. I never was a big fan of Hiram.

    I liked what I saw in trevor yesterday. I think they found a home for him now.

    We really need to upgrade our LB corp this offseason. I can’t remember the last probowl caliber LB we had. I think William thomas and Bill Romo were the last decent ones.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAaQNACwaLw Raider75

    # The Real MaddenRaider Says:
    November 27th, 2009 at 5:00 pm

    Everyone, I think this comment by Raiders75 truly epitomizes the modern day Davis worshiper.

    Raider75 Says:
    November 27th, 2009 at 3:04 pm

    Name me 1 player that the Raiders have ever cut that BECAME a Super Star on another team.

    Moss doesn’t count,
    …….

    Typical liberal misquote. Why not post the whole statement MR?

    Maybe because I own you and your stupid article.

    Moss wasn’t a Raider draft pick. nor did they CUT him. He never showed up on the waiver wire. He was TRADED.

    Lets see what else I can expose in your retarded post…

    I always love your typical liberal interpretation of history.

    Just because Al Davis has been the worst owner by record the last 7 years doesn’t mean he is the worst owner.

    In the NFL, Record means nothing. Championships mean everything.

    Al Davis has 3 of them.

    Could someone worse buy the team? OF COURSE THEY COULD!

    Several owners in the NFL have never sniffed a Championship.

    Would you say the Lions have a better owner than Al Davis MR?

    Would you say the Cards have better owners?

    You don’t have to respond. We both know you are intellectually incapable of arguing your retarded viewpoint without misquoting me and conveniently leaving out facts.

    Typical liberal half-truths and deception MR. I thought you were a bigger man than that.

  • aig

    Raider 75,

    Your comments are sooo true and hilarious. I have given up calling Mrs. on it. She just twists and turns again and again.

  • islandraider

    Al needs to enter the 21st century. What ever it takes, he needs to wake up. AIG, you’re right. Stubborn old people.

  • aig

    good nite all. thanks for the chat.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAaQNACwaLw Raider75

    From Mike Florio at PFT…

    But there’s one major area in which the league can balance out the Thanksgiving (and, for that matter, the Thursday Night Football) experience.

    With only three days to prepare for the Thanksgiving games, the road teams devote a chunk of those hours to travel. Though none of the three road teams played away from home on Sunday, which would have created two trips between the end of the Sunday game and the start of the Thursday contest, each of the home teams on Thanksgiving played a home game on the preceding Sunday.

    So why not set up the schedule so that the teams hosting Thanksgiving games always play a road game on the prior Sunday? This would balance out the travel burden for both teams who play in a given Thanksgiving game.

    ……….

    Interesting. Didn’t think about Dallas being at Home last Sunday and then hanging around for the Thurs game.

    I think that created a huge advantage for Dallas.

  • ohioraider

    RealMaddenRaider, you’ve done a great service to this board. Bravo. It’s indisputable to all but the most obtuse that Davis has destroyed his own legacy. What’s amazing is that this was common knowledge 13 years ago and still didn’t get much play. The old man is a cancer, a disgrace, and the worst kind of megalomaniac: one who destroys for his own grandiosity.

  • kidseven

    Oh,I get it–Cable watched a different game than I watched. For a minute I thought he was saying the Raiders’ line play, QB, RBs, young receivers and most of the defense did quite well against Dallas.

    Interesting how Dallas moved their ends extra wide and it COMPLETELY shuts down our outside runs and/ or moving Tuiowsky out of the pocket. If that’s the case, then obviously Dallas was leaving big holes somewhere else because every strategy is a trade off. So what exactly did Tom “Bobby Fischer” Cable do to attack this new weakness? Stretch right to Justin Fargas?

  • ohioraider

    The writing is on the wall for anybody willing to accept it:

    Says Allen, who signed with the Kansas City Chiefs as a free agent in 1993, “I always felt we had the best personnel in football, but the best personnel wasn’t always on the field. We had to win a certain way or no way. Sometimes we sacrificed winning for a philosophy—or one man’s philosophy.”

    In other words, Russell got drafted because he’s Davis’ idea of “A Raider style quarterback” even though the team never won a Superbowl with the big arms the old coot fantasizes about. Sick, sick, sick is what he is.

  • Chris in NY

    The Real MaddenRaider Says:
    November 27th, 2009 at 5:02 pm
    Chris in NY Says:
    November 27th, 2009 at 3:16 pm

    I think this Raiders team is different and has different problems than it did in the 90s. A lot of punks back then. And quitters.

    ……………

    Oh, yeh, but not today!!! LOL.

    —————

    Name some of the punks and quitters on this team. When I think of Raiders who quit when the going got tough I think of Randy Moss, Warren Sapp, Charles Woodson and others. Moss being the quintessential example. Just because we have a lousy passing attack that holds the team back doesn’t mean they’re quitters. If they were quitters there’s no shot in hell they win in weeks 16 & 17 with nothing to play for last season.

  • Glutten for Punishment

    i will give the grim reaper a BJ if he takes AD now. he knows talant but doesnt know how to use it.

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    Raider75 Says:
    November 27th, 2009 at 6:38 pm

    Could someone worse buy the team? OF COURSE THEY COULD!

    ………..

    How much worse can anyone be than Al Davis? 6 years with 11 losses or more (most likely 7)? What do you think the odds are that anyone could do worse than that? Most 10 year olds could run this team better than Al Davis. 7 straight years with 11 or more losses? You have to try to suck that bad. Anyone who’s trying does better than Al. It’s that simple.

  • http://none The Real MaddenRaider

    Chris in NY Says:
    November 27th, 2009 at 8:49 pm

    Name some of the punks and quitters on this team.

    ……….

    Chris, considering how bad this football team is, any player who doesn’t stand up and call out team management is indeed a punk and a quitter, and a bum here to collect a check. That means all of them. So here goes your list of punks and quitters on this team:

    55 Alston, Jon OLB 6-0 235 06/04/1983 4 Stanford
    21 Asomugha, Nnamdi CB 6-2 210 07/06/1981 7 California
    70 Barnes, Khalif T 6-5 325 04/21/1982 5 Washington
    33 Branch, Tyvon SS 6-0 205 12/11/1986 2 Connecticut
    57 Brown, Ricky OLB 6-2 235 12/27/1983 4 Boston College
    90 Bryant, Desmond DT 6-5 290 12/15/1985 R Harvard
    29 Bush, Michael RB 6-1 245 06/16/1984 2 Louisville
    66 Carlisle, Cooper G 6-5 295 08/11/1977 10 Florida
    59 Condo, Jon LS 6-3 250 08/26/1981 3 Maryland
    50 Ekejiuba, Isaiah LB 6-4 240 10/05/1981 5 Virginia
    99 Ellis, Greg DE 6-6 265 08/14/1975 12 North Carolina
    31 Eugene, Hiram FS 6-2 200 11/24/1980 4 Louisiana Tech
    25 Fargas, Justin RB 6-1 220 01/25/1980 7 Southern California
    3 Frye, Charlie QB 6-4 220 08/28/1981 5 Akron
    76 Gallery, Robert G 6-7 325 07/26/1980 6 Iowa
    5 Gradkowski, Bruce QB 6-1 220 01/27/1983 4 Toledo
    74 Green, Cornell T 6-6 315 08/25/1976 11 UCF
    75 Henderson, Mario T 6-7 300 10/29/1984 3 Florida State
    12 Heyward-Bey, Darrius WR 6-2 210 02/26/1987 R Maryland
    15 Higgins, Johnnie Lee WR 5-11 185 09/08/1983 3 Texas-El Paso
    23 Holland, Jonathan WR 6-1 195 02/18/1985 2 Louisiana Tech
    53 Howard, Thomas OLB 6-3 240 07/14/1983 4 Texas-El Paso
    24 Huff, Michael FS 6-1 205 03/06/1983 4 Texas
    11 Janikowski, Sebastian K 6-2 250 03/02/1978 10 Florida State
    37 Johnson, Chris CB 6-1 200 09/25/1979 7 Louisville
    94 Joseph, William DT 6-5 310 09/03/1979 7 Miami (Fla.)
    93 Kelly, Tommy DT 6-6 300 12/27/1980 6 Mississippi State
    44 Lawton, Luke FB 6-0 240 08/26/1980 4 McNeese State
    9 Lechler, Shane P 6-2 225 08/07/1976 10 Texas A&M
    20 McFadden, Darren RB 6-2 210 08/27/1987 2 Arkansas
    80 Miller, Zach TE 6-5 255 12/11/1985 3 Arizona State
    89 Miller, Nick WR 5-9 180 03/29/1987 R Southern Utah
    34 Mitchell, Mike SAF 6-1 220 06/10/1987 R Ohio
    51 Morris, Chris G 6-4 305 02/02/1983 4 Michigan State
    52 Morrison, Kirk MLB 6-2 240 02/19/1982 5 San Diego State
    18 Murphy, Louis WR 6-2 200 05/11/1987 R Florida
    83 Myers, Brandon TE 6-4 250 09/04/1985 R Iowa
    56 Nixon, David LB 6-3 225 03/16/1985 R Brigham Young
    46 O’Neal, Oren FB 5-11 245 09/08/1983 2 Arkansas State
    72 Pears, Erik T 6-8 308 06/25/1982 4 Colorado State
    98 Richardson, Jay DE 6-6 280 01/27/1984 3 Ohio State
    26 Routt, Stanford CB 6-1 195 07/26/1983 5 Houston
    22 Russell, Gary RB 5-11 215 09/06/1986 3 Minnesota
    2 Russell, JaMarcus QB 6-6 260 08/09/1985 3 LSU
    64 Satele, Samson C 6-3 300 11/29/1984 3 Hawaii
    81 Schilens, Chaz WR 6-4 225 11/07/1985 2 San Diego State
    Schilens, Chaz WR 6-4 225 San Diego State
    Scott, Trevor TE 6-5 256 08/30/1984 4 Buffalo
    91 Scott, Trevor DE 6-5 255 08/30/1984 2 Buffalo
    92 Seymour, Richard DE 6-6 310 10/06/1979 9 Georgia
    77 Shaughnessy, Matt DE 6-5 270 09/23/1986 R Wisconsin
    86 Stewart, Tony TE 6-5 260 08/09/1979 9 Penn State
    71 Wade, John C 6-5 300 01/25/1975 12 Marshall
    84 Walker, Javon WR 6-3 215 10/14/1978 8 Florida State
    70 Walker, Langston T 6-8 366 09/03/1979 8 California
    61 Warren, Gerard DT 6-4 325 07/25/1978 9 Florida
    19 Watkins, Todd WR 6-3 195 06/22/1983 2 Brigham Young
    54 Williams, Sam

  • http://none The Real MaddenRaider

    Raider75 Says:
    November 27th, 2009 at 6:38 pm

    Would you say the Lions have a better owner than Al Davis MR?

    Would you say the Cards have better owners?

    ………..

    Weren’t the Cardinals in the Super Bowl last year, ding dong? That’s an easy yes.

    And, as bad as the Lions are, they have at least made moves to improve. They fired their GM. Ours is yet to resign, considering he’s the owner as well and cant’ be fired. We’re in worse shape than the Lions in the long term. So yes, the Lions have better owners than us, too.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAaQNACwaLw Raider75

    # The Real MaddenRaider Says:
    November 27th, 2009 at 9:20 pm

    Raider75 Says:
    November 27th, 2009 at 6:38 pm

    Could someone worse buy the team? OF COURSE THEY COULD!

    ………..

    How much worse can anyone be than Al Davis? 6 years with 11 losses or more (most likely 7)? What do you think the odds are that anyone could do worse than that? Most 10 year olds could run this team better than Al Davis. 7 straight years with 11 or more losses? You have to try to suck that bad. Anyone who’s trying does better than Al. It’s that simple.
    ……….

    Could have been 6 years with 16 losses.

    Ever wonder why you only want to go back 6 years? Why not 10 years? 8 years? 3 years? 1 year? 5 years?

    Why is always 6 years?

    Liberal Interpretation of History. Just pick a number of years that supports YOUR position and repeat it over and over again. Sounds like Obama.

  • http://none The Real MaddenRaider

    So, Raiders 75, it was the fact that it was a Thanksgiving game? That’s why we lost? I mean, we’ve been one of the better teams in football this year, so of course we’re better than Dallas, right? But that pesky Thanksgiving short week…ooh, darn you NFL! Talk about liberal rewrites. We lost. In the NFL, you have road games. It’s the coach’s responsibility (that’s Al Davis, btw) to prepare their team for short weeks and road games. The better teams can do it. The better teams with 7 losses and desperate for a win to keep their season alive can certainly do it. But we’re none of the above, are we? And that’s why we lost. Go ahead, come up with more liberal rewrites of our failures this year and in recent years. And while you’re at it, give us some of your liberal rewrites on Raider history. I love how you talk about Al having 3 championships, as if any of them were recent. The most recent one was 26 years ago. Half truths and liberal revisionist theories. That’s all the Al worshipers have to offer anymore. Those of us that are realists, on the other hand? 3-8. 7th straight year of losing.

  • http://none The Real MaddenRaider

    Oh, sounds like Obama. I get it. You’re trying to move the discussion to politics to avoid talking about how bad Al Davis sucks. Well, no luck. Because I’m not going to discuss politics or Obama with you. Just Al Davis. And the reason I talk about his record in the most recent 7 years is because his recent record is what’s most relevant. You see, recent by definition is within closer proximity to the time we’re living in, therefore, it is more prevalent. What good is it that Al Davis won a Super Bowl 26 years ago? Give me some similarities to the Raiders organization today and the Raiders’ organization then. (this ought to be good). You can’t even find any similarities between the Gruden team and this team, let alone the Ron Wolf teams of our heyday. But go ahead and try. I can use the laugh. Or, keep talking about Obama. It’s not going to deter me. The topic today is Al Davis, his idiotic supporters, and I’m staying on it.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAaQNACwaLw Raider75

    # The Real MaddenRaider Says:
    November 27th, 2009 at 9:34 pm

    Raider75 Says:
    November 27th, 2009 at 6:38 pm

    Would you say the Lions have a better owner than Al Davis MR?

    Would you say the Cards have better owners?

    ………..

    Weren’t the Cardinals in the Super Bowl last year, ding dong? That’s an easy yes.

    And, as bad as the Lions are, they have at least made moves to improve. They fired their GM. Ours is yet to resign, considering he’s the owner as well and cant’ be fired. We’re in worse shape than the Lions in the long term. So yes, the Lions have better owners than us, too.
    ……

    Weren’t the Raiders in the Super Bowl in 2003?

    Did the Cards win? No!

    Al Davis has 3 Trophies. Cards have 0

    I guess the Bidwells are better owners than the Patriots Kraft since the Cards were in the Super Bowl last year and the Patriots weren’t. lol!

    Lions made moves to improve, but the jury is still out on if those moves were worth anything. Weren’t they the same people who HIRED Matt Millen? Who says the new guy will be any better?

    Lions are 2-9. Oh yeah, those were some genius moves.

    Lions are better off in the long run?

    That is what is known as a subjective observation. I know you will have to look this up, but trust me.

    Unless you are so f’d up you think you can predict the future?

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAaQNACwaLw Raider75

    C’mon MR. You and I both know you couldn’t run a Mexican Whorehouse, much less a Professional Sports Franchise.

    If Al Davis had won only 1 NFL Championship in his life, that would be 1 MORE than you.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAaQNACwaLw Raider75

    I guess I scared MR away.

    Blinded him with logic. lol!

  • http://none The Real MaddenRaider

    Ever notice that only the Davis shills claim victory in an argument because the other person stepped away from their computer? Just another sad chapter of their desperation.

    Yes, the Raiders were in the Super Bowl in 2003. What’s happened since then? The Cardinals were in the Super Bowl LAST YEAR. Are you honestly going to make the case that going to the Super Bowl in 2003 is as prevalent as going a year ago? Surely you can’t be that desperate. Oh, who am I kidding? Of course you are!

    The Lions have made moves to improve their upper management, considering their poor record in recent years. The Raiders have not. That makes the Lions a better managed team than the Raiders. Yes, the Lions have better owners. They do. Make the case for Al Davis being better than them, without invoking accolades from 3 decades ago. It’s a different league now.

    Mexican Whorehouse…I love how you now invoke race as a distraction from this discussion. Any means necessary to get the heat off of Al, huh? How sad. But, sadness defines the state of the Raiders today. A sad owner, sad yes men as employees, sad players, and even twice as sad, idiots who are still willing to hand their money over to Al. How much did you fork over this year, Raiders75? You might as well burn your money. I feel sorry for you.

  • http://none The Real MaddenRaider

    You know how I found the SI article from ’96? I did a google on “Al Davis, Steve Beurlein”. Steve Beuerlein was calling the Alabama/Auburn came today, and while watching I recalled a beef Beuerlein had with Al. LOL. I swear. The internet is kryptonite to Al and his shills, like Raiders75. If it wasn’t for the internet, these guys would be kings. Well, probably not. Because most people would notice how much we’re losing, despite their spin. Can fool some people some time…

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAaQNACwaLw Raider75

    The Lions have made moves to improve their upper management, considering their poor record in recent years. The Raiders have not. That makes the Lions a better managed team than the Raiders. Yes, the Lions have better owners. They do. Make the case for Al Davis being better than them, without invoking accolades from 3 decades ago. It’s a different league now.
    ……
    Won’t go 3 decades back. Just have to back to 2000.

    Lions record since 2000… 40 – 104, No Division Titles, No Playoff Appearances

    Raiders record since 2000.. 57 – 87, 3 Division Titles, 4 Playoff victories, 1 AFC Championship, 1 Super Bowl Appearance

    The Lions made changes in the front office. So what? How’s that working out for them? 2-9… oops. These are the same fools who hired Matt Millen.

    The Lions last playoff appearance was in 1999. They went with an 8-8 record.

    Lions last playoff win was 1991. OH WAIT, I’m sorry. THAT WAS THEIR ONLY PLAYOFF WIN IN FRANCHISE HISTORY.

    You couldn’t run a Caucasian whorehouse either.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAaQNACwaLw Raider75

    Al Davis does suck, but not because of his record the last few years.

    He sucks because he CAN’T F’N DRAFT for sht.

    If he would just turn the draft over to his coach or to a competent scouting department, the rest would work itself out.

  • http://none The Real MaddenRaider

    2000 is 10 years ago. It’s irrelevant. Ancient history. The Cardinals went to the Super Bowl last year, which pretty much ends the argument as to who has better ownership between the Raiders and the Cardinals, especially considering that the Raiders have sucked, read, flat out sucked, since losing the Super Bowl in ’03. Haven’t even won 3 games straight. Just pathetic.

    The Lions record since 2000 is bad, but they’ve made moves in upper management. The Raiders have not. The Raiders, again, are the worst team in football since 2003, and are still ran by the same person. The Lions are doing something about their ineptitude, the Raiders are not. Period.

    BTW, speaking of caucasian whorehouses, how much money did you spend on the Raiders this year? How much money have you spent since 2003? I don’t even want to know. I feel sorry enough for you already.

  • http://none The Real MaddenRaider

    # Raider75 Says:
    November 28th, 2009 at 12:02 am

    Al Davis does suck, but not because of his record the last few years.

    He sucks because he CAN’T F’N DRAFT for sht.

    If he would just turn the draft over to his coach or to a competent scouting department, the rest would work itself out.

    …………..

    Well, and if the queen had balls…

    I mean, come on. That’s the whole point as to why people dislike Al, and know he needs to retire, or be removed, whatever. And it’s not only drafting. So many players have come out and accused Al of meddling with gameplans that at this point people who still believes he doesn’t are probably the people who shine his shoes on demand, too, as Shannahan talked about in the SI article. It’s not just Al’s drafting, it’s everything about him. He’s awful, and the Raiders will not get better until he is completely out of football operations.

    And, the fans can do something about it. Boycott him! His volume of customers is not going up. Every single fan who decides to stop forking over their money hurts him. He’ll feel it. Take the power into your hands, Raider Nation, and stop listening to brainwashed homers and their inept, desperate propaganda. Stop giving Davis your money!

  • Raider

    “# The Real MaddenRaider Says:
    November 27th, 2009 at 10:40 pm

    Ever notice that only the Davis shills claim victory in an argument because the other person stepped away from their computer? Just another sad chapter of their desperation.”

    I have been reading the blog forever, but this is my first post. The answer to your question is “yes”.

    The Lions have made moves to improve their upper management, considering their poor record in recent years. The Raiders have not. That makes the Lions a better managed team than the Raiders. Yes, the Lions have better owners. They do. Make the case for Al Davis being better than them, without invoking accolades from 3 decades ago. It’s a different league now.

    The Lions demonstrated a willingness to improve their team at all levels, not just players and coaches. If I were a coaching candidate or free agent, I would rather go to Detroit than Oakland, given what I now know about the Raiders and Lions. Hell, for as much as people have bagged on Matt Millen, he is a better GM than Davis is!

  • http://www.Move2Alameda.com KoolKell

    Reading that S.I. Michael Silver article was stunning. As if it were written yesterday.

    The never ending loop of insanity.

  • http://www.Move2Alameda.com KoolKell

    Maybe BHP was one of Davis’ shoe shiners?

  • http://www.Move2Alameda.com KoolKell

    “But Davis’s abuses of power have become increasingly visible. For example, after practice it is customary for him to enter the equipment room, drop a towel on the floor and wait for an employee to clean his shoes. “I saw him make someone wipe his shoes in front of 75 people,” says Denver Broncos coach Mike Shanahan, who coached the Raiders in 1988 and was fired four games into the ’89 season.”

    SI Michael Silver 1996
    —————————–
    BHP perhaps?

  • Raider

    “# Raider75 Says:
    November 28th, 2009 at 12:02 am

    Al Davis does suck, but not because of his record the last few years.

    He sucks because he CAN’T F’N DRAFT for sht.

    If he would just turn the draft over to his coach or to a competent scouting department, the rest would work itself out.”

    I think that the SI article that MR posted summarizes why Davis sucks for the past 13 seasons. It really has less to do with the draft than how he communicates and treats the employees, how he meddles in game planning, how there is always the question of whether you will be paid in full, how he only keeps the players “he” likes despite their not fitting into the coach’s scheme or how well that player performs compared to his peers.

    Jon Gruden/Bill Calahan’s team won games IN SPITE of what Al was doing. It wasn’t long before Al finally drove away the people that were actually helping him out the most. That’s typical of him.

    This team is going to be a wasteland of sewage as long as he continues to behave this way. It saddens me, as a season ticket holder. My friends and I die a little bit inside every Sunday as we file out of the stadium. I love the Raiders, but in these recent years, they have been killing me.

  • 4evaRaider

    Good Mornring NATION!!!

  • 4evaRaider

    Take the power into your hands, Raider Nation, and stop listening to brainwashed homers and their inept, desperate propaganda
    *****************************************************

    lmao!!!

  • neilb

    Good morning 4eva.

    How ya doing ?

  • Kirk

    As Raider 75 said, the Raiders suck because of Al Davis’ drafting. When you draft Jamarcus, McFadden, and DHB instead of Clady, Crabtree, and Calvin Johnson, you suck at the draft.

  • 4evaRaider

    Very good Neilb…and You???