Raiders HOF semifinalists
By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Saturday, November 28th, 2009 at 12:39 pm in Oakland Raiders.
Former Raiders among the 25 players who named as semifinalists for the Pro Football Hall of Fame Class of 2010
WR Cliff Branch, 1972-85: Al Davis campaigns hardest for Ray Guy, Jim Plunkett and Tom Flores, but Branch is the guy with the biggest gripe. A regular-season and postseason star. Contemporaries included Lynn Swann and John Stallworth, both in the HOF. I’d take Branch over either one.
WR/KR Tim Brown, 1988-2003: There are going to be some surprised people in Raider Nation when Brown doesn’t make it in his first year. Like it or not, there are a lot of voters who look at Brown’s stats and don’t see enough wins or a defining moment. They consider him like a 28 ppg scorer on a bad NBA team. Someone has to put up the numbers, even if they don’t mean all that much.
If Cris Carter wasn’t a first-ballot pick, neither is Brown.
RB Roger Craig, 1991: Gained 591 yards, averaged 3.6 yards per carry, scored one touchdown and had no run longer than 16 years in an end-of-the-line season after piling up terrific rushing-receiving numbers with the 49ers. That wouldn’t stop the Raiders from putting him their media guide should he be inducted _ which he won’t in 2010.
P Ray Guy, 1973-86: Two problems _ there are simply too many voters who will never vote for a punter. Ridiculous, of course. It’s a huge part of the sport, and you can leave it to Canton visitors to bypass his bust if they’re offended. Then there’s the “There goes the neighborhood” issue. Guy’s career stats are being obliterated by Shane Lechler, the heir to his legacy in silver and black. That makes the voters think, “You mean we’ll have to put in another punter some day?
CB Lester Hayes, 1977-86: Never clear as to why Hayes isn’t taken more seriously as a candidate. Think Charles Woodson is having a great season for the Packers this year? It’s not even close to what Hayes did in 1980 _ the single best season any defensive back has ever had. “The Judge” had 39 career interceptions and made five Pro Bowls.
WR Jerry Rice, 2001-04: In 2001 and 2002, Rice caught 175 passes for 2,350 yards and 16 touchdowns following two sub-1,000 yard season playing second-fiddle to Terrell Owens in San Francisco. In 2003, Rice finally started to show some age, catching 63 passes for 869 yards. He turned 41 that season. Those numbers are looking pretty good to the Raiders about now.
Look for Rice’s bio in your Raiders media guide next year, and deservedly so. Two great years and a turn-back-the-clock playoff game against the Jets following the 2001 season (9 catches, 183 yards, one touchdown) added to his legacy.
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November 28th, 2009 at 12:44 pm
jhill Says:
November 28th, 2009 at 10:26 am
Thanks Dell!
Kinda strange how Cable decides who to bench. The again, without much depth, Morrison and the rookie WRs have to stay out there.
I wonder what the long term plan is for Howard? If Scott is now the Weakside LB, then we should just cut the BS and go with the 3-4. There are so many times when we play around with it any way by standing a DT up.
Let’s just get on with it!
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Why do you think Cable decides?
He’s pretty much made it clear that he “got the ok” to not just bench JR, but for it to be longer than a week.
He might request..and seek affirmation, but can’t see him, on his own, benching anyone.
Unless they’re a nobody that is just run of the mill, and no threat to reflect on Al’s decisions making/signing abilities.
November 28th, 2009 at 12:48 pm
#246 (prev.)
You said it to the point. Kind of reminded me of a dad whos’ son just got relegated to the back-up at the high school level. All the excuses in the world without any truth.
November 28th, 2009 at 12:50 pm
BTW..Jerry?
Pretty weak listing Craig and Rice as “Raider HOF prospects”, don’t you think?
However, obviously the point appears to be the “RAIDERS” putting them in their media guide, which honestly would just come across as pathetic.
Raiders will be laughed at, across the Bay, listing both of those players as “Raiders”, as they go into the Hall as Niners, (obviously inductees don’t go in wearing the team logo) who both came back to SF and signed a one day deal, to retire as Niners.
Will be funny when the Raiders list Sapp, and Randy Moss as “RAIDER PLAYERS IN THE HALL”..and pathetic.
November 28th, 2009 at 12:55 pm
# islandraider Says:
November 28th, 2009 at 12:48 pm
#246 (prev.)
You said it to the point. Kind of reminded me of a dad whos’ son just got relegated to the back-up at the high school level. All the excuses in the world without any truth.
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Exactly.
Like Jeff Garcia’s dad.
Now that was some funny shyte.
Game after game Garcia was playing like total crap..just horrible.
Radio talk show after the game..caller kept calling in, making excuse after excuse after excuse, just like Priest does. EVERYONE else’s fault, but never Garcia’s. Wasn’t Garcia’s fault the ball bounced off the turf..the PLAYER SHOULD HAVE DOVE. Wasn’t Garcia’s fault he took a sack, it was the lineman’s..Garcia didn’t fumble..was a “lucky” play by the defense….
Finally, after a handful of bad games, and repeated calls from the exact same caller, telling everyone who’s calling in they’re WRONG ABOUT GARCIA, host playfully said “jeez..only someone’s Dad would run that weak excuse”..where he stated “I AM HIS DAD”.
Classic. Funny as hell.
November 28th, 2009 at 1:09 pm
In all honesty, JR had his chance. He was not set up to fail. The playbook was even catered to fit him and his ability to call sets. Even Moronovich put together a drive or two. It was evident with the spark Grads created, which at this point, was better than watching this excrutiating ice wagon try and make it up a hill. The only consolation to some of these losses is to come in here and read some of the posts by the pro Jr’ers and get a laugh.
November 28th, 2009 at 1:12 pm
A little over two hours before the Mighty Wildcats blow up the lowly Tennessee Kiffins.
Kentucky Wildcats 37
Rocky Top wannabees 17
November 28th, 2009 at 1:39 pm
They consider him like a 28 ppg scorer on a bad NBA team. Someone has to put up the numbers, even if they don’t mean all that much.
If Cris Carter wasn’t a first-ballot pick, neither is Brown.
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Someone has to put up the numbers? How do you figure? Who’s putting up Tim Brown-like numbers in Oakland the last 7 years. Brown has to be a Hall of Fame lock. Carter should certainly make it too, but I have the feeling he’s not in yet because he’s kind of a pr!ck.
November 28th, 2009 at 1:52 pm
Brown is a lock..in due time.
When you look at a Rice? Easy automatic.
But Brown? All things considered, there are many quality players who are worthy, it’s just when do they get in.
I suspect Brown is going to be waiting a few years.
November 28th, 2009 at 1:59 pm
Also, Brown did play in 3 AFC Championship games and a Super Bowl. Would’ve been in a 4th Championship game and possibly another Super Bowl if not for “The Tuck Rule” debacle.
November 28th, 2009 at 2:02 pm
“”# Richochet Says:
November 28th, 2009 at 12:50 pm
BTW..Jerry?
Pretty weak listing Craig and Rice as “Raider HOF prospects”, don’t you think?
However, obviously the point appears to be the “RAIDERS” putting them in their media guide, which honestly would just come across as pathetic.
Raiders will be laughed at, across the Bay, listing both of those players as “Raiders”, as they go into the Hall as Niners, (obviously inductees don’t go in wearing the team logo) who both came back to SF and signed a one day deal, to retire as Niners.
Will be funny when the Raiders list Sapp, and Randy Moss as “RAIDER PLAYERS IN THE HALL”..and pathetic.”"
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Go to the Hall of Fame official website, and look at the Hall of Famers by team:
http://www.profootballhof.com/hof/teams.aspx
Notice how each team lists any HOF’ers that played for them, even for just one season? It’s not “pathetic” for the Raiders to list Craig and Rice as Raider candidates, it’s just how it works. The NFL lists them, and so do the Raiders. Get over it, and stop making moronic comments like you did.
Oh look! OJ Simpson is listed as a 49er HOF’er. LOL how pathetic!!!
November 28th, 2009 at 2:06 pm
bout time
November 28th, 2009 at 2:52 pm
No offense Jerry, but their is no way in he-ll writers should be voting on who goes in to the hall of fame.
Thats sort of like asking football players to vote on which journalist should get a pulitzer.
Like Mora said, “You think you know…”
The out right arrogance and bias of some of your fellow writers is disgusting and demeans not only the sport but your profession as well.
For shame especially that jack ass from SI.
November 28th, 2009 at 2:53 pm
Have no illusions, Raiders don’t get in because they are Raiders.
November 28th, 2009 at 3:19 pm
Regarding #12
I reread the above blog and did not see anything Jerry said that would suggest that “writers should be voting on who goes in”. Where is that quote that I missed?
November 28th, 2009 at 3:29 pm
The word may come down from Al on certain players like Russell, but I have a hard time believing that Al would prefer DHB over Walker, per se. Al spent a lot of $ on Walker and refused to let him retire. Why would Al want him on the inactive list?
I can’t imagine Al telling Cable to put Russell back at KR.
Why on earth would Al spend all that $ on McFadden and hail Bush only to insist that Cable give Fargas the most carries?
Cable is responsible for the offense and who takes the field. He has the final say and can deal with Al on Monday’s. The big one’s like Russell I get that he needs the owner’s ok. But not most of his decisions.
November 28th, 2009 at 3:33 pm
Jhill, we can no longer question why Al does what he does. It’s like trying to pick fly sheet out of pepper. Impossible.
November 28th, 2009 at 3:36 pm
he 1983 Raiders are on KTVU Channel 2. I accidentally found it because its called The Deadliest Catch which is the wrong title. Now theres some real truth to whats being said there if you haven’t seen it before.
November 28th, 2009 at 3:37 pm
What a shame we can’t draft the qb position. There a some good qbs’ in college and we have to look to the recycle bin. In all Als’ doings, he could never put into place a system for developing quarterbacks? I guess he just thought his JaMar could get it done, the team would morph around #2 and the deep threat would be Als’.
I’ll say it again, While Grads might be only 50% of what it takes to be a pro qb, he is a 100% better than Als’ #1 pick.
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Case in point.
November 28th, 2009 at 3:37 pm
I predicted the Cowboys would win 38-7. I’m surprised I was 2 Touchdowns off my prediction. I guess the Raiders played better than I thought.
November 28th, 2009 at 3:40 pm
#19
The Cowboys didn’t play as good as you thought.
November 28th, 2009 at 3:48 pm
Islandraider – Haha.
November 28th, 2009 at 4:27 pm
I wonder if the Colts would trade Sorgi. I doubt it but you never know.
I bet Dixon shines in his debut as a Steeler.
Nnamdi for Sorgi?
November 28th, 2009 at 4:38 pm
It is too quite in here so that should stir up some action.
November 28th, 2009 at 4:39 pm
Go Wildcats!
Kicking butt over lame
14 – 7
November 28th, 2009 at 4:40 pm
Maybe I should say If Al traded Nnamdi, who or what should we recieve in return?
November 28th, 2009 at 4:43 pm
Breaking news! Raiders hire Mark Mangino to be their offensive line.
November 28th, 2009 at 4:47 pm
I’d want two firsts, or a first and a second for Nnamdi. Not sure anyone would give that up, but we really have no reason to give him up barring big time compensation.
November 28th, 2009 at 4:53 pm
Maybe a proven D lineman and a second. I admit to not being a draft guru. I am just full of turkey and trying to start some conversation.
It just seems other teams can run or pass on us at will and have been able to for a number of years.
It may be the scheme we play, nonetheless
we may be better off if we got a good deal for him.
November 28th, 2009 at 4:53 pm
JUST IN: Justin Miller released from Jets. If we don’t make a move on him, we’re even more brain dead than we previously thought.
I mean, seriously. Russel running back kickoffs?
At least we know what Miller can/can’t do. Namely, he can get into the Pro Bowl.
November 28th, 2009 at 4:56 pm
The uncapped year changes everything. The owners want to say they are a united force, but you know the greedy egomaniacs would sell their moms and daughters into slavery if they could win and they will be scheming against each other no matter what they say
November 28th, 2009 at 5:03 pm
If anyone at Raider.org had a nut sack DMAC would run a few back just so we can see if he can show us a glimpse of a #4 pick
November 28th, 2009 at 5:53 pm
You actually pray that a man dies so a football team may win more games?
November 28th, 2009 at 6:13 pm
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November 28th, 2009 at 6:21 pm
I would like to see the Bruins win but I think the condoms pull this one out tonight
November 28th, 2009 at 6:57 pm
It’s a ghost town in here.
November 28th, 2009 at 7:04 pm
Yes, I do.
November 28th, 2009 at 8:11 pm
# Raider Says:
November 28th, 2009 at 2:02 pm
“”# Richochet Says:
November 28th, 2009 at 12:50 pm
BTW..Jerry?
Pretty weak listing Craig and Rice as “Raider HOF prospects”, don’t you think?
However, obviously the point appears to be the “RAIDERS” putting them in their media guide, which honestly would just come across as pathetic.
Raiders will be laughed at, across the Bay, listing both of those players as “Raiders”, as they go into the Hall as Niners, (obviously inductees don’t go in wearing the team logo) who both came back to SF and signed a one day deal, to retire as Niners.
Will be funny when the Raiders list Sapp, and Randy Moss as “RAIDER PLAYERS IN THE HALL”..and pathetic.””
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Go to the Hall of Fame official website, and look at the Hall of Famers by team:
http://www.profootballhof.com/hof/teams.aspx
Notice how each team lists any HOF’ers that played for them, even for just one season? It’s not “pathetic” for the Raiders to list Craig and Rice as Raider candidates, it’s just how it works. The NFL lists them, and so do the Raiders. Get over it, and stop making moronic comments like you did.
Oh look! OJ Simpson is listed as a 49er HOF’er. LOL how pathetic!!!
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Read it again, Peanut.
It would be pathetic as hell for any team to list, proudly, someone who had a brief stop on their team, as HOF.
If your sorryass bothered to check the list, you’ll see OJ Simpson’s name as shaded, meaning just what I stated..earned his HOF stats elsewhere.
Just like Jerry Rice did.
And Roger Craig.
but hey, trust me..I know to you it would make your pathetic ass feel special if you can somehow hang on to something to make you feel like less of a loser..so, by all means, pretend it means something.
November 28th, 2009 at 8:16 pm
# Nnamdi21 Says:
November 28th, 2009 at 2:52 pm
No offense Jerry, but their is no way in he-ll writers should be voting on who goes in to the hall of fame.
Thats sort of like asking football players to vote on which journalist should get a pulitzer.
Like Mora said, “You think you know…”
The out right arrogance and bias of some of your fellow writers is disgusting and demeans not only the sport but your profession as well.
For shame especially that jack ass from SI.
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If not them, then who?
Writers study the players.
Players never study writers, lol.
Hell, most players likely don’t read anyone, much less writers.
Can’t be coaches.
Can’t be players.
Can’t be fans.
Only other avenue is writers…
November 28th, 2009 at 8:23 pm
I’m on board with Mallert after watching the LSU game. Dude looks like a taller Tom Brady and he would come in miles ahead of where Russell was because he’s coached by Petrino. I haven’t seen Pike but he puts up monster numbers. I will make a point to watch his next game.
November 28th, 2009 at 8:25 pm
I’m on board with a Nnamdi trade for a 1st. I think his stock is falling each week because our defensive philosophy is stupid. He’s getting beat and not even covering #1 receivers.
November 28th, 2009 at 9:18 pm
504,
Mallert is da man. He is going to be the first overall pick if he comes out in 2011. We have way too many young players. I think we need more veterans in there. I’d love to see some vet LB’s that we can get in the offseason or trade for. Our LB corp is pathetic. I dont want to wait for a young QB. Get a legit vet QB in the offseason would be fine too.
Later….I’m out.
November 28th, 2009 at 9:33 pm
Think of other things to do with your Raider fan pals and relatives. Do something else on Sundays. BBQ at the park, something. I’ve heard that if you watch games at bars the NFL nor the Raiders get any money from it. I don’t understand how that works but someone explained it to me once. Anyhow, just stop giving your money directly to the Raiders, one way or another. Nobody’s asking you to denounce the Raider Nation. By all means, stay a Raider fan. But just stop giving your money to Al Davis.
November 28th, 2009 at 9:36 pm
This is sad…
Fassel says he plans to return to UFL
Posted by Mike Florio on November 28, 2009 10:26 PM ET
As part of the same FanHouse.com article in which Florida Tuskers coach Jim Haslett says he already has been contacted by an NFL team, Las Vegas Locomotives coach Jim Fassel says he plans to return to the UFL in 2010.
“I loved this,” Fassel said. “I loved coaching in this league and I just had a ball coaching these guys. You saw the character and the toughness they have.”
Translation? Fassel, who coached the Giants from 1997 through 2003, knows he’s got no chance of getting an NFL head-coaching job.
Or maybe Fassel has realized that he needs to play it cool in order to generate NFL interest. Indeed, he tried out a very uncool approach last November, sending a “please hire me” letter to Raiders owner Al Davis.
Fassel says he won’t rule out a return to the NFL. But he says he wouldn’t want to “go there and be miserable and lose.”
In other words, he has decided in the past 12 months that he doesn’t want to coach the Raiders, after all.
…………
sigh… I am a fan of the ‘Rodney Dangerfield’ of football.
November 28th, 2009 at 9:40 pm
This is just f’d up…
JaMarcus Russell’s mysterious pants accessory
Posted by Mike Florio on November 28, 2009 11:14 PM ET
Several of you have forwarded to us throughout the day this image from the Raiders’ November 22 game against the Bengals.
Most insist that the item tucked inside the waistband of Russell’s pants is a pack of Skittles.
We think it’s not nearly as clear as many of you have suggested.
Our guess? It’s a folded up bag of David’s Sunflower Seeds.
Besides, Russell doesn’t strike as a Skittles guy. He’s got more of an extra-thick gravy and entire-carrot-cake-in-one-sitting build.
November 28th, 2009 at 9:59 pm
It’s sunflower seeds guys. Been doing it since LSU days. It’s some country sh!t but it does help prevent cramps.
November 28th, 2009 at 10:22 pm
LOL. I thought the Raiders were the Rodney Dangerfield of football?
November 28th, 2009 at 11:10 pm
# Richochet Says:
November 28th, 2009 at 8:11 pm
It would be pathetic as hell for any team to list, proudly, someone who had a brief stop on their team, as HOF.
If your sorryass bothered to check the list, you’ll see OJ Simpson’s name as shaded, meaning just what I stated..earned his HOF stats elsewhere(1).
Just like Jerry Rice did.
And Roger Craig.
but hey, trust me..I know to you it would make your pathetic ass feel special if you can somehow hang on to something to make you feel like less of a loser..so, by all means, pretend it means something.(2)
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Each and every player’s HOF stats were the accumulation of everywhere they played, period. Hall of Famers are not measured by their stats on only one of their teams they played for. Nope, that proves how completely pathetic your logic really is. Hall of Famers are presented by their CAREER stats, dip$hit! That means that every team they played for was part of their HOF career, and therefore should display each players name with honor! If you don’t believe that each of Jerry Rice’s teams should honor Jerry’s presence, and time on thier team proudly, then you are living in a different universe than the rest of us. That’s fine though, because we don’t need ya.
November 28th, 2009 at 11:52 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7hjmVXYWoLM
November 29th, 2009 at 12:06 am
OMG, If any of you in the Sacramento market want to see something extraordinarily creepy right now, tune to channel 4 on comcast or 58 on satellite and watch this gore fest called, “Al Davis: An AFL Legend”. They have this guy who looks dead who keeps talking about the Raiders. Oh, wait, it’s Al Davis! My god, his eyes look like they’re bleeding! Sort of this watery, blood look. Don’t let your kids see this. They should remove the footage of Davis, and then it wouldn’t be as scary and you could put it on the network where it belongs, Comedy Central.
November 29th, 2009 at 12:58 am
Richochet Says:
November 29th, 2009 at 12:22 am
Don’t abuse the right to be a whiny ass wipe.
You’re wrong, DUMBASS.
It’s not where you play, it’s WHAT YOU DO that gets you into the hall, you freaking moron.
Moss did NOTHING WITH THE RAIDERS. What’s going to get Moss in the hall is what he did EVERYWHERE except being with the Raiders.
Yeah, IDIOT, IF he performed well while in Oakland, it could have helped his overall stats, and helped in deciding. But again, that’s not the point, is it?
Point is only a sorryass fool is going to state ‘oh goody, Rice was with the Raiders, so I’m going to celebrate him going into the hall as a Raider”
Hell, according to you, because Bill Walsh spent one season (his worst, in the NFL, according to him) as asst with the Raiders, you should be also cheering Walsh’s accomplishments, moron.”
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“It’s not where you play, it’s WHAT YOU DO that gets you into the hall. Point is only a sorryass fool is going to state ‘oh goody, Rice was with the Raiders, so I’m going to celebrate him going into the hall as a Raider””
…Which is why there is nothing wrong with *every* team (that Rice played for) to honor Rice as a HOF that played for their team. Rice was a Niner, Rice was a Raider. Rice even helped both teams get to a Superbowl. My god! Not mentioning Rice would have been terrible! There is absolutely nothing wrong with honoring Rice, or pathetic about it. It’s called “RESPECT”, which is something that you clearly lack.
Whiny asswipe? You are the one who is whining! You started with your whine about the Raiders honoring Rice and Craig! Wow, talk about short term memory loss! You have also earned the title of Asswipe, which you can append to your current Whiney title if you wish.
Get a clue.
November 29th, 2009 at 3:36 am
islandraider Says:
November 28th, 2009 at 11:52 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7hjmVXYWoLM
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Good Morning NATION!!!
Thankx islandraider…Lester is 1 of my ALL-TIME RAIDERS!!!
November 29th, 2009 at 3:40 am
If Cliff Branch dont get in…there is no way in hell Moss gets in,imo
November 29th, 2009 at 5:04 am
Lester Hayes has belonged in the hall for twenty years… definately an injustice…
Moss should never get in strictly based on his two years here…
in my opinion it was the combination of Sapp and Moss that set us back a couple years…
November 29th, 2009 at 5:27 am
And Grudens win now attitude Pete,imo.Not saying Gruden was bad 4 us…he was good and bad,imo.He assembled a vet team and didnt think of the future,just as in Tampa Bay…same story,almost identical.Plus Robbins flipping out.It was old players and no heir apparents.And of course the F/A’s fiasco.
Well I think Javon Walker cured Big Al of that “MADNESS”.
I think we have a real good nucleus but am seeing our LB’s as the biggest weekness of the team.Sure the O-line didnt play well vs. ‘boys but the defense lost that game.
Now all of a sudden we giving up HUGE plays.
It woulda been nice 2 get 2 or 3 of the top LB’s last year.Its almost like T.Howard and K.Morrison are regressing like Jmac…I wonder if they eat at the same places’ lol.
November 29th, 2009 at 5:32 am
with-out those big plays 2 the ‘boys…We prolly still lose but lose 10-7 or so.I know it’s still a “L” but when we are trying to still get it together I would rather lose 10-7 than 24-7.
Yep altho many say he isnt the answer…who knows,Grads did a fine job in his 2nd outing,imo.Room 4 improvment?Sure!!! but no bad at-all,imo
November 29th, 2009 at 5:58 am
Moss is gonna finish with so many TD he will get in 1 time. No way is Gradowski the answer but just show how awful russell was playing that an awful journeyman gives you a better chance.
Oh well at least got to see the Warriors put in their place ha ha ha 33 points at the boaracle what a joke. Lakers will always be superior to that garbage team.
November 29th, 2009 at 6:33 am
morning all.
November 29th, 2009 at 6:36 am
As far as the HoF goes…….forget it.There’ll be no Raiders going in this year.I’m sure that Nancy Gay is one of the writers with the vote.You think she’ll ever vote for a Raider ?
November 29th, 2009 at 6:40 am
Morning Raider Nation,
Same shyt from Cable, different year:
November 12, 2008
“I’ve got to manufacture some ways to score,” Cable said, when asked if he has enough talent offensively. “I like the players we got. Are we getting them in the best position to do it? That’s really what I’ve been looking at.”
He is an IDIOT. Cannot be an offensive coordinator.
November 29th, 2009 at 6:42 am
Yo all
November 29th, 2009 at 6:44 am
Always figuring but not knowing WTF to do:
“My feeling is Darren brings a lot to the table,” Cable said. “I feel like we’ve got to keep moving forward, trying to figure out what is going to help him be at his best.”
November 29th, 2009 at 6:47 am
Exla….
Give Cable a break…..c’mon,he’s only had Dmac for a season and a half.It takes time to work these things out.
November 29th, 2009 at 6:50 am
Cliff Branch for the Hall!
November 29th, 2009 at 6:51 am
It begs the question……why are we not using Dmac in the wildcat ? Just use it once are twice a game to give the other teams D coach something to think about.We’ve all seen the Youtube clips of Dmac running it in college why not try it in the pro’s ? There’s nothing to lose.
November 29th, 2009 at 6:53 am
Branch,Hayes,Plunkett and Guy for the Hall !!
It ain’t gonna happen tho’
November 29th, 2009 at 6:54 am
Cable was given the job after Greg Knapp was stripped of his duties. Knapp was given the job after Kiffin was fired. Al took away the job from Knapp after he figured he was going to leave for Seattle. He had no one for the position and gave it to Cable who is a line coach. He has been putrid as an Offensive Coor. in college previously and is not qualified.
November 29th, 2009 at 6:59 am
The NFL should EMBRACE THE GREATNESS OF THE RAIDERS.Instead they dont honor their greats who made the nfl what it is.In this regard they are all like spoiled lil kids…hang on 2 petty vendettas and GOTCHA…BACK,imo
November 29th, 2009 at 7:00 am
Neil
Dmac saw defenses in college that maybe had one or two guys that would eventually play on Sundays.
In the mean time his offensive line was able to give him space to work.
Speed is useless without space to work and we are seeing the effect of a weak offensive line in how Dmac is used.
Football is a game of time and space and all the speed in world is useles without and Oline that can give the space to work.
Building our Oline in the 2010 draft will happen but in the meantime we have another lost season.
November 29th, 2009 at 7:04 am
Thats a lot of different things goin on Exla,imo.No wonder our team is dizzy;our front office has 2B dizzy going round an round all the time
Peyton going down hard Exla!!!
November 29th, 2009 at 7:04 am
Exla
We have trotted out so many different coordinators and coaches over the past seven seasons and have gotten the same results.
Why? Because we do not have the TALENT.
Period.
You guys that constantly complain about poor coaching have got to look at the track record OF THIS TEAM.
Madden was a terrific coach but he also had HOF talent especially on the Oline.
Draft some line talent and you will see the Raiders rebound.
November 29th, 2009 at 7:06 am
I dunno Charlie…
Napolean Kaufman didnt need no stinking space,imo lol
November 29th, 2009 at 7:11 am
Charlie….
Agreed.If you take the Dallas game they had one big play using the wildcat ( if I remember right ) and then we stopped them after that.
I wouldn’t use the wildcat all the time.Just once or twice if that-could even fake going into the wildcat.I just want to make the other D coach plan for it.Make him think we’re going to use it.
Football is a game of time……it’s also a game of inches,and if the threat of the wildcat gives the Raiders both,then I’m all for it.
November 29th, 2009 at 7:20 am
Charlie’
I’ve always hated the ZBS. It’s for teams without size up front. As the commercial said “Where’s the Beef!” Big and skilled always defeats medium and skilled. imho
November 29th, 2009 at 7:23 am
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aISkVvi5iI8
November 29th, 2009 at 7:31 am
Was that Mondale and Hart ??
November 29th, 2009 at 7:37 am
Wish there was a way to forward this to JaMarcus:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rH0Ofoz-FyA&feature=relatedhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rH0Ofoz-FyA&feature=related
November 29th, 2009 at 7:47 am
Exla….
That’s just mean !!
Always makes me angry when people are allowed to eat themselves to death let cancer suffers are refused life saving treatment because it costs too much.
November 29th, 2009 at 7:53 am
Off to watch the Chelsea/Arsenal game…
Enjoy your Sunday everyone.
November 29th, 2009 at 8:00 am
U2
November 29th, 2009 at 8:51 am
JERRY WAKE THE F UP
YOUR BLOG REALLY DID DIE THIS TIME.
Dish TV throws us basic package peons a free channel and this month we get the NFL network.
It looks like amature night at some twilight zone episode.
November 29th, 2009 at 8:55 am
Faulk is professional, but thats about it.
Someone needs to tell the rest of them to quit making scary faces at each other.
November 29th, 2009 at 8:58 am
Hey Mo!
November 29th, 2009 at 9:24 am
Raiders are trying to sell 10% of the team according to Jay Glazer
November 29th, 2009 at 9:24 am
He said there are lots of Raider rumors out there but this one is verified.
November 29th, 2009 at 9:25 am
JaMarcus is a fat loser and he has body odor.
November 29th, 2009 at 9:33 am
Yo Bob, hows things been?
Whens the General gonna set these fools straight?
November 29th, 2009 at 9:47 am
# The Real MaddenRaider Says:
November 29th, 2009 at 12:06 am
OMG, If any of you in the Sacramento market want to see something extraordinarily creepy right now, tune to channel 4 on comcast or 58 on satellite and watch this gore fest called, “Al Davis: An AFL Legend”. They have this guy who looks dead who keeps talking about the Raiders. Oh, wait, it’s Al Davis! My god, his eyes look like they’re bleeding! Sort of this watery, blood look. Don’t let your kids see this. They should remove the footage of Davis, and then it wouldn’t be as scary and you could put it on the network where it belongs, Comedy Central.
Does he look like this
November 29th, 2009 at 9:48 am
Titans RB Chris Johnson is the second back in history to run for at least 125 yards in five straight games.
November 29th, 2009 at 9:51 am
Best Thing Ever? NFL Redzone because you can actually see what its like when teams score points and its one right after another instead of waiting game after game to see it.
November 29th, 2009 at 10:30 am
This just in…My Nephew (In Law) is 1 1/2 years old and was told about the Raiders once by his father. They were at the store and he saw another kid with a Raider shirt on and he got excited and pointed at his shirt and said Go Raiders over and over. I never knew a kid so young would already be into it but thats hella cool. Lets hope he can see some winning Raiders football as he gets older and begins to understand it.
November 29th, 2009 at 12:28 pm
If I was voting for the 5 to get in the Hall this year I’d go with, in order:
- Rice
- Emmitt
- Lester Hayes
- Charles Haley
- Andre Reed
Tim Brown should definitely make it soon, but possibly won’t be 1st ballot since Reed and Carter are still waiting.
November 29th, 2009 at 1:54 pm
Chris in NY Says:
November 29th, 2009 at 12:28 pm
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How do you leave out Cliff Branch…
you hate filled sack of puppy poop!!!
(was that too strong???)
November 29th, 2009 at 2:05 pm
Guys, what is up with Al Davis? I was watching that Al Davis, AFL special last night, where they had current footage of him talking. He has this watery, bloody look in his eyes, like he’s crying tears of blood. WTF is that? I’ve never seen that, even in old people. What is wrong with him? Al Davis is hands down one of the scariest looking people on the planet, and I don’t mean scary in a masculine way. I mean scary in a pitiful way.
November 29th, 2009 at 2:22 pm
# The Real MaddenRaider Says:
November 29th, 2009 at 2:05 pm
Guys, what is up with Al Davis? I was watching that Al Davis, AFL special last night, where they had current footage of him talking. He has this watery, bloody look in his eyes, like he’s crying tears of blood. WTF is that? I’ve never seen that, even in old people. What is wrong with him? Al Davis is hands down one of the scariest looking people on the planet, and I don’t mean scary in a masculine way. I mean scary in a pitiful way.
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He doesn’t look very good. Too bad. He coukld at least do something about his appearance but I guess he just doesn’t care. The watery eyes are often found in older people. He certainly could use a tri to the dentist and get some whitening treatments. I assume it is like he says – just win baby. Unfortunately he’s failing there too.
November 29th, 2009 at 2:36 pm
Al Davis needs to consider Marc Trestman as a coaching candidate.
November 29th, 2009 at 2:37 pm
I wonder if Al ever considers what his Raiders would be like today if he would have drafted Lienert instead of Huff???
November 29th, 2009 at 2:42 pm
JB, Al looks like a freak. Sugar coat it all you will. This may come as a surprise to you, but I’ve met old people. Had grandparents. Great aunts and uncles. I’ve been to the grocery store, which is full of old people. And I’ve never seen a ghoul like Al Davis with blood in their eyes. Al looks all f’d up. Something is seriously wrong with him, aside from age. Stress or something.
November 29th, 2009 at 3:13 pm
You know what pisses me off. Through all these drafts, Al always takes the guy with straight speed over production. But then last year, he goes with McFadden over straight speed Chris Johnson. I mean, McFadden is fast too, but if we followed that same strategy this year, then we should have taken Maclin (someone really fast but also with production). The one time he goes with production, the guy he passes ends up being a monster.
But, there are also 20 other teams that passed on him and even when the Titans took him, it was seen as a shock and a reach.
This is just another way of saying Al is completely lost in his draft strategy and seems to be changing it up yearly.
November 29th, 2009 at 3:38 pm
There’s scuttlebutt around here, that Al Davis is really ill.
November 29th, 2009 at 4:00 pm
man, watching VY,,. you hope JR has his cell numbers…
November 29th, 2009 at 4:00 pm
Is that the word around the water cooler KK ?
Around here = old folks home ?
November 29th, 2009 at 4:07 pm
AL’s eyes are glazed over really bad. He looks like his days are numbered but at the end of the season when he gets out the overhead and breaks down the demise of Tom Cable he could look better, its called old age. I’ve been noticing the fingers on his right hand look paralyzed like he’s had a stroke or something.
November 29th, 2009 at 4:23 pm
that ari@ten game was insane. leinart; dejavu
November 29th, 2009 at 4:27 pm
wr.kenny britt drafted what this yr. 28th overall?
November 29th, 2009 at 4:36 pm
# Roch R Says:
November 29th, 2009 at 2:37 pm
I wonder if Al ever considers what his Raiders would be like today if he would have drafted Lienert instead of Huff???
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Would look the same as it does today. Our O & D lines are terrible – especially the O-line. Weak lines play ZBS because it makes them all they can be. Unfortunately, a power line will kick a ZBS line’s ass every time. We will never be a championship team playing ZBS. Keep Hendersen & Gallery and dump the rest. Draft all power linemen this next draft. Oh yes, one DT & middle linebacker too! Until we build up our lines we will never be worth a schit.
November 29th, 2009 at 4:41 pm
BUILD THE LINES IN ‘10.
November 29th, 2009 at 4:42 pm
… and get another qb.
November 29th, 2009 at 4:42 pm
Who is the best GM in the league? I would say the Colts GM but if it comes to drafting Ravens GM is legit, wish we had our own a person who could build for the future n can focus on finding real talent, this team doesnt have any talent we got projects.
November 29th, 2009 at 4:42 pm
not in the draft though.
November 29th, 2009 at 4:44 pm
MB, again, do you honestly think I’ve never seen old people? I know plenty of old people. In the grocery store, you see a multitude of old people. But I don’t see any old people who literally look as if their eyes are bleeding. Al has this sort of plastic looking film covering his face, and it looks as if it disconnects from where his eyes are, almost as if he’s a burn victim. It’s abnormal. It’s not a sign of aging. It’s rare. I know a lot of people who are 80 years old, people who’ve drank and smoked in their lives, something Al never did, and none of them look that bad. I personally believe it’s stress. I think when you spend so much of your time lying and holding grudges with people it accumulates and start to take its toll on you mentally and physically, and Al is on the extreme end of it. Al is a poster boy for living an honest life and spending all of your time trying to screw people over and lie about it to anyone who calls you on it. Basically, that’s what will eventually happen to you. You’ll start to look like Freddy Krueger.
November 29th, 2009 at 4:45 pm
We have no GM, a horrible HC and a Slacker QB who doesn’t give a crap. There’s nothing the draft can do to help us, it has to come from upstairs…
November 29th, 2009 at 4:45 pm
*not* spending all of your time screwing people over and lying, is what I meant to say.
November 29th, 2009 at 4:48 pm
Al’s been known for making late night phone calls to coaches, etc, even in recent years. I can just picture this guy staying up till 4 every night, carrying out grudges, plotting ways to screw this person and that person, drumming up lies to make himself seem innocent…wow. It’s no way to live. He really needs help.
November 29th, 2009 at 4:48 pm
Anyone klnow if JR has shown his mug at the facility this weekend?
November 29th, 2009 at 4:52 pm
jr probably dosen’t watch football
November 29th, 2009 at 4:53 pm
What grocery store do you shop at where all the customers are elderly ?
MR, old people go through phases where they look terrible and then they improve a little bit. Every time they bounce back a little less and then they are gone. I saw that interview. I’ve seen a similar look on my family member and I’ve seen that same person rebound thats all I’m saying.
Why AL agreed to the interview in that condition is beyond me.
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
November 29th, 2009 at 4:44 pm
MB, again, do you honestly think I’ve never seen old people? I know plenty of old people. In the grocery store, you see a multitude of old people.
November 29th, 2009 at 4:54 pm
As much as I hate the 49er’s, Crabtree had 4 catches (modest) for 54 yds. Better than our POS 1st rounder…what a joke.
November 29th, 2009 at 4:55 pm
Watched the Colts win today. Beat Texans 35-27.
Was great to see what a real NFL Team looks like.
They got down 17-0. Peyton throws 2 picks in the first half. Panic? Cave in? Roll-over? Heck NO!
They just keep coming like the tide on the ocean.
If the Raiders got down 17-0 and had 2 picks in the 1st half, what do you think the final score would be?
Against the Bengals – 20-17 Raiders
Against the rest of the NFL – 45-0
Too bad Oakland can’t play the Bengals 16 times in a season. lol
November 29th, 2009 at 4:55 pm
Who cares? Do you think he will put in the work to get earn his job back? Anyones guess but I’m saying No. Hope he proves me wrong. I dont think he will see the field this year unless Gradkowski gets hurt.
# VanHeathen Says:
November 29th, 2009 at 4:48 pm
Anyone klnow if JR has shown his mug at the facility this weekend?
November 29th, 2009 at 4:56 pm
there’s at least 10 rookie wr’s better than ours at this point.
November 29th, 2009 at 5:11 pm
Its a good thing you dont judge a draft after 1 year eh Raideredout?
November 29th, 2009 at 5:12 pm
MB, Al’s physical abnormalities are not old age. You have no idea what you’re talking about. He looks as if someone tried to drown him in boiling water.
November 29th, 2009 at 5:15 pm
The same GM who drafted Russell is still here, bleeding eyes and all. JaMarcus Russell IS Al Davis, and vice versa. Russell is not here if not for Al.
November 29th, 2009 at 5:21 pm
MR, its old age nothing more. You are trying to make chicken salad out of chicken sh!t.
Drama queen
November 29th, 2009 at 5:25 pm
Omg, did you just call me a drama queen? You’re the one who decided to make an argument where there wasn’t one. I was just pointing out the obvious, that Al’s physical appearance is abnormal and has nothing to do with old age. I’ve never seen an old person with bleeding eye. Maybe your relative who looks as f’d up as Al is an evil curmudgeon like Al, and brought his wretched looks on himself as well? I think so. Drama queen. And, you’re an idiot, too.
November 29th, 2009 at 5:26 pm
MistaBrown, your grandfather probably had to babysit you too many times, and that’s why his eyes are bleeding.
November 29th, 2009 at 5:27 pm
Four officers fatally shot in a coffee shop. I wonder how Barback Marx 0bama will find a way to blame the Bush admin for this.
November 29th, 2009 at 5:30 pm
I wonder how your old relatives eyes started bleeding. Probably your female relatives, having to look at them. My eyes are bleeding just thinking about it.
November 29th, 2009 at 5:31 pm
AL’s eyes didnt look bloody your Tv is probably a pile of sh!t. They were watery and glazed over but not bloody.
Yes, I called you a drama queen. Get over it.
November 29th, 2009 at 5:32 pm
Yeh, the president actually ordered the guys to kill the cops. I think it’s about time for your meds.
November 29th, 2009 at 5:33 pm
ooooh, my t.v. is a pile of s’t!! Good one. Well, if it wasn’t for your female relatives looking like piles of s’t, your older relatives eyes wouldn’t be bleeding, would they?
November 29th, 2009 at 5:34 pm
Same way Bush ordered 911, right?
# The Real MaddenRaider Says:
November 29th, 2009 at 5:32 pm
Yeh, the president actually ordered the guys to kill the cops. I think it’s about time for your meds.
November 29th, 2009 at 5:35 pm
How many older relatives do you have that look like Al, MB? Do you guys keep them locked in some room, so the kids don’t have to see them?
November 29th, 2009 at 5:36 pm
MR, you saw an old man with glazed, watery, blood shot eyes and you are trying to make something out of nothing like a d-bag drama queen. Piling on an old man is not cool, what are you a coward?
November 29th, 2009 at 5:37 pm
Bush didn’t order 9/11. He just can’t read intelligence memos, probably because he can’t read at all.
November 29th, 2009 at 5:38 pm
MR, sit tight priesttj should be here any minute to tell us how good Black Moses is going be in 2010. Or better yet Oakglen could get the courage to show his pitiful mug in here and you’ll have someone to debate till midnight.
The end.
November 29th, 2009 at 5:39 pm
MB, you’re the one who made a big deal out of this. I was just talking about how Al Davis looks like a circus freak, which is obvious, and you’re the one who tried to play armchair doctor and sound all smart, talking about that’s how old people look. Haven’t seen one single old person who looks that f’d up, unless they were total alcoholics their whole life. But, it’s good to know you have. Everyone in your family probably looks like that. Freaks.
November 29th, 2009 at 5:40 pm
Ha ha, running for cover. That’s what I thought. That’s what you get for trying to sound smart, when you’re obviously another dumb, redeck bush supporter.
November 29th, 2009 at 5:45 pm
Dont confuse running for cover with just knowing when an argument is over after I had the last word.
And yes everyone in my family looks like Al.
lol
November 29th, 2009 at 5:52 pm
oh, look who’s back for more abuse. Go back to drudge report and see if the president gave any more orders to thugs in Chi town to shoot up cops. LOL.
November 29th, 2009 at 5:56 pm
Everytime I come in here it’s he same dumbells posting the same dumb stuff. Expecting it to change but predicting it wont. What do they say is the definition of insanity?
November 29th, 2009 at 5:59 pm
Don’t you guy’s have anything better to do than regurgitate the same nonsense year round?
I read what we should do and who we should get. And then you say Mr Davis wont allow it to work. Think that through just for a minute and tell me who’s really crazy?
November 29th, 2009 at 6:00 pm
Al looks like he does because he has sucked the life from this franchise and know he’s tired. The players who bail get a second chance. There was a time when Al could give new hope and life to cast-offs, but since the Marcus Allen deal, he’s gone bizarro. Except for the Gruden years, Al seems hell bent on taking this team down.
However, Cable as he is, tends to be the resuscitator right now. Can you imagine the baggage that guy has to tote around. Scrambling all over the facility looking for ways to keep this ship from sinking. Give him the credit (at least a little bit). He is trying, albeit may not be good enough. Look who he has to deal with. He may have puppet strings on his balls, but I’ll bet he don’t like it.
We can only hope Al wakes up one day and realizes he is old and tired and truly desires some quality help and gm.
November 29th, 2009 at 6:04 pm
priesttj I dont think Black Moses will ever get his job back. What do you think?
November 29th, 2009 at 6:04 pm
When your good your good..
Mistabrown Says:
November 29th, 2009 at 5:38 pm
MR, sit tight priesttj should be here any minute
November 29th, 2009 at 6:06 pm
You actually call it thinking with that brain? lol
November 29th, 2009 at 6:09 pm
Black Moses will never step on the field again unless Gradkowski gets injured how does that make you feel priest?
November 29th, 2009 at 6:16 pm
We will see wont we?……..
November 29th, 2009 at 6:17 pm
MESSAGE TO AL . COM
November 29th, 2009 at 6:17 pm
I’m going to start a list of some intangibles a qb has to have beyond his gifted physical tools. Feel free to add. I’m sure i’m going to miss some.
-Brains
-Instinct
-Periphereal (sp?) vision
-Leadership
-Memory
-Speak clear and quickly so all can understand
-No Fear
-Understanding your Preparation = Perfomance
November 29th, 2009 at 6:18 pm
Rothlisberger looks like Will Farrell now….WTF happened to that guy?
November 29th, 2009 at 6:19 pm
MB, only morons like you blame players instead of Al for how bad the team is. Russell’s been here 3 years, played only 2 years. We’ve sucked for 7. Your inner dumb redneck just keeps shining through, doesn’t it?
November 29th, 2009 at 6:21 pm
IslandRaider, let me know when you’re ready to list the intangibles for GM, so we can compare Al’s traits to it.
November 29th, 2009 at 6:25 pm
MR, only morons like you make generalizations. I’ve said many time AL doesn’t let the coaches coach. I said several times its hard to evaluate what we have because the coaching staff sucks and Al doesn’t let them do their jobs.
Having said that J Russell is a piece of hot burning krap.
Drama queen
November 29th, 2009 at 6:25 pm
We would need a 1,000 page book for that one. But since Al is breaking it, I’m sure he thinks he is the only one who can fix it.
But you’re welcome to start that one if you like.
November 29th, 2009 at 6:27 pm
So I wonder if JaMarcus realizes his 2010 off-season has already begun?
Is there not some super trainer for pro athletes out there that Russell could hire?
Where the strobe glasses that McNabb wore a few years ago to help with his decision making and field awareness?
Lose 20lbs…
Does Russell realize that he has one last chance to make something of himself? Does he have a routine or regiment that he’s following?
Gawd I hope so, if not someone has got to get a message to the man.
November 29th, 2009 at 6:33 pm
priesttj Says:
November 29th, 2009 at 5:56 pm
Everytime I come in here it’s he same dumbells posting the same dumb stuff.
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Yeah. I know what you mean. We really got to get the word to Al, let him know he’s running this franchise into the ground. You have an inside, maybe you could get the word to the front office and they can pass it along. All he needs to do is get a quality GM and we’ll be headed in the right direction (and some scout and draft guys).
November 29th, 2009 at 6:36 pm
priesttj dont slice your wrist when AL cuts JaMeatloaf at seasons end ok.
November 29th, 2009 at 6:46 pm
# Mistabrown Says:
November 29th, 2009 at 6:25 pm
MR, only morons like you make generalizations. I’ve said many time AL doesn’t let the coaches coach. I said several times its hard to evaluate what we have because the coaching staff sucks and Al doesn’t let them do their jobs.
…………..
Yet, it’s still Russell’s fault.
Dumb redneck.
November 29th, 2009 at 6:47 pm
MB, don’t slice your wrist when Obama gets reelected.
November 29th, 2009 at 6:50 pm
Islandraider, you guy’s are so funny, and cute you think that’s all there is. They were right when they said ignorance is bliss. Every team has a GM why are only a few win on a regular basis if that’s all it takes. What’s wrong with the 49ers the Rams, the Browns, the Bucs, the Lions, the Chiefs, the Chargers, why haven’t the Cowboy’s won a playoff game?
Fans are so naive.
November 29th, 2009 at 6:55 pm
Yes, its Russells fault he’s a bust. He doesn’t work hard, he’s a poor leader, he has no skill outside of throwing a ball far. He’s fat & lazy..
Correct!
# The Real MaddenRaider Says:
November 29th, 2009 at 6:46 pm
Yet, it’s still Russell’s fault.
Dumb redneck.
November 29th, 2009 at 6:57 pm
Whos going to re-elect that imbecile? Independents are done with this Socialist wrecking ball 11 months into his job and they are the ones who swing elections.
# The Real MaddenRaider Says:
November 29th, 2009 at 6:47 pm
MB, don’t slice your wrist when Obama gets reelected.
November 29th, 2009 at 7:00 pm
MR, save this one in your vault.
Barback will bow out of re-election when he see’s the writing on the wall. He wont face defeat he will quit. His left wing socialism agenda is only accepted by about 20% of the Country thats why he ran as a moderate. You are the 20% with its head in its anus.
Four years & out.
November 29th, 2009 at 7:01 pm
When your a permanent resident of last place, somethings wrong. All teams go in the gutter but quickly turn it around and remain competetive. This Oakland squad hasn’t done much for quite some time, and I sadly don’t see any overnight success on the horizon. We have to make some lite of this or we go nuts being true fans. This has been a very depressing last twenty years. We had to sweat out the Marc Wilson years and its’ only gotten worse. Where is the annual desire to be competetive? Every thing starts at the top, wether it be in the family, business, sports, whatever. If I own a bodyshop and an employee royally does a awful job, I get the credit. If I buld a fine home and the sub-contractors to an horrible job, I get the credit. If I am a principle and my HS has the lowest math scores in the state, I’m going to have a tough time finding another job. If I’m Al Davis and my raiders suck ass, its’ on me!
November 29th, 2009 at 7:02 pm
MB, name a presidential candidate who’s going to beat Obama.
Regarding Russell, how can it be Al’s fault for not letting his coaches coach, and Russell’s fault? It has to be one of the two. If Al is meddling and not letting his coaches coach, and we all know he is, Tom Brady couldn’t carry this team. Do you believe Russell is more at fault than Al Davis? Tell me you’re that crazy, along with naming your presidential hopeful for ‘12. If you’ll excuse me, I’m going to get ready to laugh my ass off. Awaiting your answer.
November 29th, 2009 at 7:04 pm
priesttj Says:
November 29th, 2009 at 6:50 pm
Islandraider, you guy’s are so funny, and cute you think that’s all there is. They were right when they said ignorance is bliss. Every team has a GM why are only a few win on a regular basis if that’s all it takes. What’s wrong with the 49ers the Rams, the Browns, the Bucs, the Lions, the Chiefs, the Chargers, why haven’t the Cowboy’s won a playoff game?
Fans are so naive.
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So what excuse does Al have since he is the GM? Can’t do it as a GM?
November 29th, 2009 at 7:04 pm
Oh, Obama’s going to drop out and not run for reelection? Where did you read that? The same place you found out that Obama gave the orders for today’s police shootings, or that JaMarcus Russell is the reason the Raiders have been bad for 7 years? You’re all laughs tonight, MB. Let’s hear who your presidential hopeful to beat Obama in ‘12 is. That’s probably why your’e saying he’s going to bow out, to save yourself the utter humiliation you would endure by naming a Republican candidate that will beat Obama.
November 29th, 2009 at 7:06 pm
RMR, can you post that SI link again?
November 29th, 2009 at 7:08 pm
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vault/article/magazine/MAG1008197/1/index.htm
November 29th, 2009 at 7:10 pm
I didnt read it thats my opinion. 0bama is beating himself insert any avg candidate. He will quit because his sensitive little ego wont allow him to get beat.
Stick it in your vault drama queen!
November 29th, 2009 at 7:10 pm
islandraider, if it were that simple everyone would be winning but they aren’t so you tell me.
November 29th, 2009 at 7:11 pm
Thanks
November 29th, 2009 at 7:12 pm
MR, when you can ask me a question without twisting 2 separate arguments together or trying to stuff words in my mouth I didnt say I’ll answer you. Your game of word twisting and putting words in my mouth isnt going to fly with me, save that horse sh!t for priest and oak.
Start over or shut up.
November 29th, 2009 at 7:13 pm
MB, are you going to name a potential candidate to beat Obama, or not? If anyone could beat him, that’s all the more easier it is for you to name someone. You do understand how elections work, don’t you? You do understand that actual people have to run against him. Which brings me to my next point, what kind of president is going to bow out of a reelection race when there’s no sign of a a candidate that can beat him? Just like you, the Republican party doesn’t have a clue, either. Your guys’ hopes rest on him dropping out, when there’s no promising candidate that looks like they can beat him? Dream on, dunce.
November 29th, 2009 at 7:15 pm
#172
Three reasons (well, excuses ok)
-poor decisions for the wrong reasons
-one man cannot do it alone (as in the raiders case)
-bad management, bad personell
Feel free to add.
November 29th, 2009 at 7:16 pm
You don’t have one single candidate in mind who can beat Obama, do you, MB? Yeh, I’ve been twisting your words all night, haven’t I? Yet you’ve still responded, up until now. Now all of a sudden you’re above the argument. Wrong. You just don’t have any candidate in mind who can beat Obama, and you’re too afraid to embarrass yourself naming one of the current GOP hopefuls, because you know you’ll get laughed at. Wise choice. Keep hiding from the question, moron.
November 29th, 2009 at 7:18 pm
MB, what chances do any of the current GOP hopefuls have of beating Obama if republicans don’t even have the balls to get behind any of them? You can’t even name someone who has a chance! OK, I’ll tell you what, I’ll make it easier on you. Name someone who has a chance of getting within 100 electoral votes of Obama. You know none of the current GOP hopefuls can beat him, so to save yourself face, I’ll let you name one candidate who at least might make it close. Go ahead, name one.
November 29th, 2009 at 7:19 pm
No I dont have a candidate thats why I said insert any avg candidate. Its 3 years away you dyk brain! Are you reading impaired?
Barback is a sensitive little pu$$y that cant take the humiliation of not getting re-elected. He will bow out.
Do you want me to repeat it 3 more times?
November 29th, 2009 at 7:22 pm
Mistabrown Says:
November 29th, 2009 at 7:19 pm
No I dont have a candidate
……….
That’s what I knew all along. That’s twice tonight your dumb ass got owned. And the real laugher is that you mentally challenged republicans are actually clinging to this pipe dream that obama won’t run! Are you nuts? What kind of president chooses not to run for reeelection when there’s nobody out there who’s shown any reap potential of beating them? You guys are insane. But you’re fun to watch.
November 29th, 2009 at 7:23 pm
Obama is going to stomp the Republicans like a rat in the closet.
November 29th, 2009 at 7:26 pm
MB, you obviously follow politics. You know who the GOP hopefuls are. I know the election’s 3 years away, but the bottom line is there is not one single GOP candidate, or any potential candidate, for that matter, who looks like they can beat Obama. I asked you to name just one, out of the republicans likely to run. You don’t want to because you don’t want to embarrass yourself any further. Every time you bring this up without having the ballsack to name a GOP hopeful who can beat Obama, you make yourself look dumber. You say Obama is a pu$$y? Who’s the pu$$y in here tonight? YOU! Until you name a candidate that can beat Obama. Step up or shut up, simpleton.
November 29th, 2009 at 7:27 pm
0bama = Jimmy Carter on roids
November 29th, 2009 at 7:27 pm
Kirk, you see what’s happening here? Im just asking this fool to name one single republican candidate who can beat Obama, and he can’t do it! Yet the thinks Obama is going to lose. To who? And, he’s even hoping that Obama just flat out won’t run. Why in the heck would a president not run for reelection when there’s nobody out there who can beat him? MistaBrown might be the single dumbest person to ever come in here and try to talk politics. I’m serious. He needs to just shut up at this point and stop digging his own hole.
November 29th, 2009 at 7:28 pm
After 3 more years of Socialism from 0bama Marx, George Bush could beat him.
November 29th, 2009 at 7:29 pm
And like I’ve told you 4 times there is no candidate its 3 years away! Maybe your handicapped I dont know…just keep repeating the same nonsense!
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
November 29th, 2009 at 7:27 pm
Kirk, you see what’s happening here? Im just asking this fool to name one single republican candidate
November 29th, 2009 at 7:29 pm
MB, if Obama is Jimmy Carter on roids, then it should be all the more easier for you to name one candidate who can beat him. Like I said, every time you talk about this without naming a candidate that can beat Obama, you make yourself look dumber. You went from about a 4th grade reading level to preschool in just a half hour. Let’s see how much dumber you can get.
November 29th, 2009 at 7:30 pm
Islandraider, I’m not at all attacking you my man. Just stating some facts, as fans we believe that whatever you’re doing do the opposite and that will fix everything. My point is it is not that simple if it were winning SB’s would be very easy.
Winning in the NFL is very difficult. The Jets haven’t won since the 70’s the Chiefs haven’t won since the 70’s the Bears went 23 years before winng in ‘85 the 49ers haven’t won since 1995.
All I ever read in here is that if we get a GM everything will be great. That IMO is the height of ignorance every single team has a GM. That doesn’t solve a thing other than to say we have a GM. The Warriors have a GM and they stink!!
Biulding a winner is having a lot of luck and some well planned organized objectives that happen to pan out. If you’re of the opinion that he hires a GM and then we win, you’re crazy. Every GM has a phylosophy like Bill Parcells for instance desn’t gaurantee a damn thing.
Chiefs had a great GM for 20 years everybody said he was one of the best. He never won a damn thing. Same with the Chargers, same with several other organizatins that have never won.
Because it just isn’t as simple as getting a GM. Teams like Tampa and Baltimore got really lucky and won but look at them now with the same system sure they have decent records and such but the chance of them winning a SB is a toss up.
November 29th, 2009 at 7:31 pm
Obama is more like John Kennedy or Franklin Roosevelt.
I pray they nominate Palin. Then we will win in a landslide.
November 29th, 2009 at 7:31 pm
MistaBrown, Bush can’t run again. Term limits. And, there’s no way he’d beat Obama anyway. Were you in a coma November of last year? That WAS Obama vs. Bush, basically. Oh, of course you were in a coma, the same coma you’re in now, a coma of stupidity. Name a candidate, who can run, who has a real chance of beating Obama, MB. It doesn’t matter that it’s 3 years away. There are already GOP hopefuls. Name one who can beat Obama. Go. Stop being a little coward.
November 29th, 2009 at 7:32 pm
Kirk, hear that Lou Dobbs might run? Talk about a landslide. Considering the growing Latino vote. And, the republicans are just desperate, and stupid enough to nominate him. Obama wouldn’t even have to campaign. Could just start working on his second term agenda.
November 29th, 2009 at 7:34 pm
MR,
Ive told you what 6 times now I dont have a candidate…there is no candidate…its 2009 you twit! Yet you keep asking for one! If you’re handicapped just say so and I’ll let you win!
Dont you criticize AL for doing the same thing your doing right now? You know what I’m talking about, repeating the same nonsense when you know it isnt working. The defintion of insanity, etc etc
November 29th, 2009 at 7:34 pm
I’m sorry, Lou Dobbs is an independent. So let me rephrase that conservatives, not necessarily Republicans, would be dumb enough to get behind Dobbs and split the conservative vote from the Republican party. I had to clear that up, because the way I’ve been smacking MB around tonight you know he’s desperate for any little victory he can get.
November 29th, 2009 at 7:34 pm
The Republicans will nominate a white male.
Probably one of the governors.
November 29th, 2009 at 7:35 pm
I know he cant run again. It was an analogy.
I feel like I’m debating a 3rd grader..
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
November 29th, 2009 at 7:31 pm
MistaBrown, Bush can’t run again. Term limits
November 29th, 2009 at 7:36 pm
They can nominate Mickey Mouse it wont really matter Barack Marx wont be re-elected if he even has the balls to run.
# Kirk Says:
November 29th, 2009 at 7:34 pm
The Republicans will nominate a white male.
Probably one of the governors.
November 29th, 2009 at 7:36 pm
Mistabrown Says:
November 29th, 2009 at 7:34 pm
MR,
Ive told you what 6 times now I dont have a candidate
……….
I know you don’t. And that’s why you sound like a complete dumbass, talking about how Obama is going to lose. I don’t know if you know how elections work, but let me try to explain it to you, pissbrain. An actual human being has to run against Obama. Obama’s not going to lose to a pollster. He’s not going to lose to FoxNews or Matt Drudge, your butt buddy. A person has to beat him. You’re saying Obama’s going to lose, yet you can’t name one single person who you think can beat him. If you can’t think of anyone, what makes you think the republican party is in any kind of shape to pick someone, or conservatives in general? And, you think he might not even run! You might honestly be the dumbest person I’ve ever talked politics with. Or, more like, taught politics too. I feel like a teacher right now, in a special ed class trying to explain the electoral process to a retard.
November 29th, 2009 at 7:39 pm
So far, here’s MB’s list of GOP hopefuls that he thinks can beat Obama:
George W. Bush (can’t run, term limits. Would get slaughtered by Obama even if he could run, considering that last year’s election essentially was Bush v. Obama)
Mickey Mouse (a fictional cartoon character)
Still waiting for MB to name an actual person, eligible to run, who can beat Obama.
November 29th, 2009 at 7:39 pm
bhp ♥ al davis
bhp ♥ jamarcus russell
bhp ♥ LOSING
November 29th, 2009 at 7:42 pm
Kirk, don’t you think it’s hilarious that MB’s saying Obama won’t run, yet can’t name a candidate that isn’t termed out, outside of Mickey Mouse, who can beat him? Why would Obama not run when there obviously isn’t a republican hopeful that republicans and conservatives can get behind, or even have the balls to say he or she could win on a blog?
November 29th, 2009 at 7:43 pm
Biulding a winner is having a lot of luck and some well planned organized objectives that happen to pan out.
====================================================
Agreed. But is that possible? Al has been the one true consistant over this sespool. Al needs quality help, call it waht you like.
I’m sick of the poor decisions, the signing for huge dollar busts, the annual firing of coaches, the lack on competetive play, the dysfunction, etc……
But I remain a fan. That is your definition of insanity.
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vault/article/magazine/MAG1008197/1/index.htm
There is some bizarro stuff here.
November 29th, 2009 at 7:44 pm
IslandRaider, what about the part where Shannahan says he saw Davis make a guy shine his shoes in front of 70 people? (Herrera?)
November 29th, 2009 at 7:49 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
November 29th, 2009 at 7:44 pm
IslandRaider, what about the part where Shannahan says he saw Davis make a guy shine his shoes in front of 70 people? (Herrera?)
=====================================================
Probably had other things in mind than the welfare of the team.
November 29th, 2009 at 7:50 pm
Guess MB isn’t going to name a GOP hopeful that he thinks can beat Obama. What a moron. Comes in here swearing Obama is going to lose, possible via dropping out and not running for reelection, and then the mental patient can’t even name anyone who could beat him. The mountain top of stupidity has been reached in here tonight, folks. And it’s MistaBrown standing on its peak, getting snowed on while wearing nothing but his fruit of the looms. Talking politics with him was like having a conversation with my 3 year old cousin on Thanksgiving. It wasn’t a conversation. It was a lesson. A lesson to one dumb pupil. I’m going to grab dinner. See you guys later.
November 29th, 2009 at 8:02 pm
Straight out of the Oakglen blogging handbook. Call the other guy a moron, ask the same question thats been answered over & over, put words in the other guys mouth.
G’night
lol
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
November 29th, 2009 at 7:50 pm
Guess MB isn’t going to name a GOP hopeful that he thinks can beat Obama. What a moron
November 29th, 2009 at 8:03 pm
Our team is so bad we’re talking politics,
what a sad state of affairs…
BTW: Dixon looks pretty good, San leandro High Alum, rocking it in the League..Nice!
November 29th, 2009 at 8:14 pm
Mrs,dont forget J Bush, watch out for the younger brother,and many others.By the time obama runs again,I would put my money on Jerry,doesnt need a TOOL to make a point,much less a speech! nite,mrs
November 29th, 2009 at 8:46 pm
Dixon played a decent game but made the rookie mistake in OT
Still looked better than Russell
November 29th, 2009 at 8:58 pm
Dixon needs to take off that face shield.
What’s up with that?
November 29th, 2009 at 9:20 pm
After that loss today the steelers are going to play angry next sunday. With Ben back they are going to shred the raiders. I don’t want to watch. hmm..but somehow it’s in a situation like that where raiders actually do win a game.
November 29th, 2009 at 9:35 pm
Good Article… Explains why Raiders might win 2 more this season.
Raiders prove that some should be more thankful for than others
By MJD
When Tony Romo(notes) looked around his locker room after today’s 24-7 win over the Raiders, he saw a lot of guys he could point to and say, “I am thankful for this guy, because he makes my job easier.”
If Bruce Gradkowski(notes) said that about anyone in his locker room, he was just being nice.
The Raiders played hard this afternoon, and while it might be a stretch to say that they gave the Cowboys a game, they didn’t embarrass themselves, either. The effort was there. What’s not there, though, is the same level of talent enjoyed by most other NFL teams. It becomes especially clear when they play a team like the Cowboys who are loaded at the skill positions. It doesn’t even look like the two teams are playing the same sport.
When Tony Romo drops back, he’s got guys in front of him who can protect him from a pass rush. With the time that gives him, he’s usually able to locate a receiver who has been able to get separation from the defense.
When Gradkowski drops back, he’s got about two seconds before a defender crushes him. And if, somehow, he’s able to get away from the rush, he’ll be looking downfield for an inexperienced receiver who probably has not found a way to beat the coverage.
He’s playing with such a high degree of difficulty. It’s like he and Romo are both carpenters, and when Romo goes to work, he gets a hammer, a screwdriver, a drill, a saw and a tape measure. Gradkowski gets a ball of yarn and a breadstick.
I felt bad for the Raiders today. They’re trying. Tom Cable has them playing hard, but they just don’t have the horses. It’s not Bruce Gradkowski’s fault, and it wasn’t entirely JaMarcus’s Russell’s fault, either. It’s a bare cupboard. There are haves and have-nots in the NFL right now, and the Raiders demonstrated to all the haves today just how thankful they should be.
November 29th, 2009 at 9:42 pm
Charlie,
With 3 young guys entrenched on our Oline In Gallery, Henderson, and Satele, I think it would be wise to add a solid veteran or 2 to the group.
Free agency is going to be huge for us this year. We need LBs in the worst way unless Nixon and Norris develop rather quickly.
We don’t have a nickle corner on the roster.
We’re going to need a DT because I’m pretty sure that Warren AND Kelly won’t both be back. One or the other, and I’d think it would be Warren at a reduced salary.
I think we will be picking around 10 and should have a shot at a good LB or CB.
November 29th, 2009 at 9:47 pm
When Gradkowski drops back, he’s got about two seconds before a defender crushes him. And if, somehow, he’s able to get away from the rush, he’ll be looking downfield for an inexperienced receiver who probably has not found a way to beat the coverage.
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That about sums up our offense for most of the year.
Charlie is right! We need to fix this OL quick!
Isn’t it about time to put Gallery back at OT? Let Gallery and Henderson be our bookends! Draft 2 MONSTERS at OG this year, and we are back in business.
November 29th, 2009 at 9:53 pm
Sources who were part of the team say that in the late 1980s and early ’90s Davis ordered Raiders coaches to limit Allen’s playing time, often in favor of far less effective runners. Steve Smith and others say that Davis sometimes ordered that quarterbacks not throw the ball to Allen. “The other players had heard so much about this ‘family’ thing, but then we saw what happened to Marcus,” says Ronnie Lott, who played safety for the Raiders in 1991 and ‘92. “All of a sudden, the guy who was Mr. Raider wasn’t part of the family. We wondered, How can you not play your best player?”
-Sports Illustrated 1996
November 29th, 2009 at 10:05 pm
Mistabrown Says:
November 29th, 2009 at 8:02 pm
Straight out of the Oakglen blogging handbook. Call the other guy a moron, ask the same question thats been answered over & over,
……..
Straight out of the desperate right winger’s handbook. Duck the question, then insist you’ve answered it. Again, name one potential presidential candidate who you think could beat Barack Obama in ‘12. Do you understand what that means? I means name one living, breathing person, who’s been mentioned in the press or otherwise as being a potential 2012 presidential candidate, who you think could beat Obama. There’s about a dozen or so to choose from. Just do a google on 2012 presidential candidates and the links mentioning the usual suspects will pop up. “anyone” is not an answer. If you honestly believe that anyone on the planet could beat Obama in ‘12, then it should be all the more easier for you to give us just one name. You’re net to do so. So far, you’ve only mentioned George W. Bush (laughable, even if he wasn’t termed out), and Mickey Mouse, who is a fictional cartoon character, and, at last I heard, has no intentions of running. You do know Mickey Mouse is fictional, don’t you? It’s sad I have to ask, but considering the intelligence you’ve demonstrated thus far? So, like I said, I’ll stop asking the question when you actually man up and answer it. You’re the one who’s always trying to turn every discussion into a political discussion, trying to take the day’s news stories and blame all of them in Obama, even a nut job shooting cops. Don’t run and hide because somebody has finally called you on your b.s. Name one potential 2012 candidate who you think can beat Barack Obama. Be a man, take a stand. Stop being such a wimp.
November 29th, 2009 at 10:15 pm
gilbert Says:
November 29th, 2009 at 8:14 pm
Mrs,dont forget J Bush, watch out for the younger brother,and many others.
………….
Jeb Bush! Are you serious? Obviously not, you couldn’t even type his whole name. Some confidence you must have in him. LOL. I just love how you guys are keeping your little hopeful candidates close to the vest, knowing you’ll get laughed out of the room for bringing them up. “J Bush”. LOL. His name’s not “J”. It’s Jebba dabba dabbba dabba Jeb, that’s all folks. His home state went to Obama last year. Obama brings out a number of younger voters, women, and minorities that Jeb Bush couldn’t bring out if he went to cool school for the entire 3 years between now and the election. A lot of Americans still despise him for rigging the election in 2000, too, and don’t think Obama won’t bring that up. Get ready to hear Katherine Harris’s name a lot. Nobody linked to her is winning an election these days.
November 29th, 2009 at 10:17 pm
PLUNKETTHEAD WHERE ARE YOU???
The “lowly” Kiffins just beat your Wildcats for the 25th STRAIGHT YEAR!!!
HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHHHHHHHHA.
You, and your Wildcats are a pathetic joke. Of all the things in the world to talk smack about, you brag about Ky. beating “LOWLY” Tenn.?
Ha. How do you like 25 yrs. of losing to ‘em buddy? If Tenn. is LOWLY what does that make Ky. football? They even finished BELOW Tenn. is the standings to boot. You are such a joke. So are your Ky. Wildcats. How about another 25 dude? Ha……
November 29th, 2009 at 10:23 pm
gilbert, I do give you props for manning up and answering the question, though. You at least gave a name. A million to one long shot who doesn’t stand a chance of beating Obama, but an actual name, nonetheless. My hat’s off. Can’t say the same for Mista Clown, who comes in here every day and tries to turn every day’s news stories into a case to impeach Obama, as if Obama orchestrates every convenience story robbery and hit and run car accident in the country, then insists Obama’s going to lose the next election when he can’t even name a potential candidate he thinks could beat him. It only takes a little courage to name one, as you’ve shown, Gilbert. Mista Clown evidently doesn’t have it in him.
November 29th, 2009 at 10:24 pm
Here is some food for thought…
DHB
11 Games – 9 Rec for 124 yards. 13.8 Yards Per Catch average with 1 TD
The “Speedster” DHB’s longest completion is 24 yards. He has maybe 3 total catches over 20 yards.
Crabtree
5 Games – 22 Rec for 292 yards. 13.3 Yards Per Catch average with 1 TD
The “Possession” Crabtree’s longest completion is 38 yards. He has several catches over 20 yards.
By the way, the League Average this year for WRs is 287 yards. (Crabtree is higher than that in only 5 games)
Funny how some guys on here claim Crabtree is NOTHING but a possession WR and DHB has all this potential due to his “speed”
Crabtree has the same yards per catch average as DHB and has connected on longer pass plays.
Crabtree’s last game he had 4 catches for 77 yards. That’s a 19 yard per catch average.
Crabtree has a 58 yards per game average compared to DHB’s 13 yards per game.
Yeah, that DHB pick is looking better and better.
November 29th, 2009 at 10:26 pm
The way these Davis worshipers root against Davis’s adversaries around the football world with the same passion they root for the Raiders is just sad. I wonder if they were doing this when the Raiders were good earlier this decade? Something tells me that if the Raiders’ record was reversed, and they were in the playoff hunt, guys like Plunkethead wouldn’t even be paying attention to Kiffin or how he’s doing. They’re desperate for any bravado they can find, because they’re not getting it with the Raiders till Al is gone, and deep inside they know that.
November 29th, 2009 at 10:29 pm
Raiders75, like Oakglenn, you’re a smart guy when you’re not desperately defending Al. Just stick to everyday football stuff, and avoid the whole Davis honor thing. It’s your achilles heel. Solid post about Crabtree. Nobody could have put it better.
November 29th, 2009 at 10:32 pm
My favorite part of the article above…
He’s(Gradkowski) playing with such a high degree of difficulty. It’s like he and Romo are both carpenters, and when Romo goes to work, he gets a hammer, a screwdriver, a drill, a saw and a tape measure. Gradkowski gets a ball of yarn and a breadstick.
……………
F’N ball of yarn and a breadstick. That’s funny. Sad, but funny.
November 29th, 2009 at 10:36 pm
Same goes for Russell. Got a ball of yarn and a breadstick, too. And when you consider that Russell’s playcalling was more dated and ineffective, Gradkowski was actually saddled with more tools than Russell. Don’t get me wrong, Russell sucks. The point is, so does Gradkowski. This team is fractured and the point of impact is at the top. That’s where the changes need to be made. They’ll never be made there? Then guess what, it doesn’t matter who we start at QB. We’re going to suck no matter what. I don’t care if Gradkowski is a tiny bit better than Russell (which is all he’s proven so far, if even that…), let me know when we cross the 5 win mark with Gradkowski under center. Because in case you spinmeisters don’t know, that’s all that counts. Not being better than Russell.
November 29th, 2009 at 10:38 pm
# The Real MaddenRaider Says:
November 29th, 2009 at 10:29 pm
Raiders75, like Oakglenn, you’re a smart guy when you’re not desperately defending Al. Just stick to everyday football stuff, and avoid the whole Davis honor thing. It’s your achilles heel. Solid post about Crabtree. Nobody could have put it better.
……..
Al’s kinda like the crazy grandpa. Even when he’s gone batsh*t crazy and he’s re-living WWII battles, driving on the sidewalk, and pinching nurses on the ass, its hard not to defend him sometimes because he’s still your grandpa.
November 29th, 2009 at 10:54 pm
He’s not my grandpa, so there’s no reason to defend him. To hell with him. He sucks. We need a GM.
November 29th, 2009 at 11:05 pm
The Raiders have the fewest plays over 20 yeards of any team in the league by a large margin. All that speed and Rusell’s “big” arm have added up to the most anemic, least explosive offense in the league.
November 29th, 2009 at 11:24 pm
Every time you go to NFL.com and play with the stat search, you find something new the Raiders suck at.
November 29th, 2009 at 11:44 pm
And as I said earlier, Raiders75, you go from college educated to special ed student when you start defending Al. It’s as if you’re sacrificing all of your intelligence. It’s sad to watch.
November 29th, 2009 at 11:47 pm
More suck at stat research:
If the raiders have scored 10 tds’ this season, that means they are paying about
$15,2000,000.00 per.
Pretty low yield on your investment.
http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/team/oakland-raiders/salary
November 29th, 2009 at 11:51 pm
Right now they’re paying $50,000,000.00 and some change per victory.
November 29th, 2009 at 11:53 pm
The Raiders are paying out over $152,000,000.00 to ensure they only fill the stadium to 50% or less capacity.
November 29th, 2009 at 11:58 pm
The Raiders have a team payroll of $152,389,371.00 (league high) and they sit at the bottom of most offensive and defensive league stats.
Al, you pay the most and get the least.
Truly bizarro!
November 30th, 2009 at 12:02 am
NFL Team Payrolls
—————————–
Rk Player Salary (US$)
1 Raiders $152,389,371
2 Cowboys $146,401,600
3 Vikings $133,354,045
4 Browns $131,916,300
5 Saints $131,531,820
6 Steelers $128,520,061
7 Titans $125,722,443
8 Cardinals $122,110,110
9 Jaguars $121,508,207
10 Bears $118,565,819
11 49ers $117,936,239
12 Jets $116,910,097
13 Rams $116,677,660
14 Giants $115,816,180
15 Dolphins $114,649,660
16 Bills $113,364,927
17 Panthers $112,115,711
18 Redskins $111,963,684
19 Chargers $111,813,340
20 Eagles $109,557,398
21 Bengals $109,425,880
22 Texans $108,445,418
23 Buccaneers $104,329,311
24 Seahawks $102,684,710
25 Falcons $96,391,525
26 Lions $95,532,117
27 Broncos $95,151,778
28 Packers $94,018,300
29 Colts $93,373,915
30 Patriots $92,734,120
31 Ravens $90,713,965
32 Chiefs $83,623,776
November 30th, 2009 at 12:12 am
Feels good to know I’m not shelling out anything for that investment. Feel sorry for those who still are.
I didn’t even know the Raiders had the highest payroll. Wonder why that’s kept quiet? Well, I mean, I know why Davis’s shills keep it quiet. It’s f’n embarrassing, considering the return on their investment, as you pointed out. But I wonder why the national sports media doesn’t talk about that more? They always try to avoid the business aspect of the game, especially where management is concerned. They’ll talk about an overpaid player till the network goes off the air.
November 30th, 2009 at 12:14 am
Look at all of the good teams on the bottom half of that list. Tell me today’s NFL isn’t a GM/coach’s medium. That’s where the competition is.
November 30th, 2009 at 12:26 am
A good coach/gm. Doesn’t garauntee super bowls, but it will fill the seats and make you competetive. Also a good team spends their money wisely. Haven’t the raiders been big spenders for quite some time. near or at the top? I’ll have to research it.
Interesting nonetheless.
November 30th, 2009 at 12:34 am
# The Real MaddenRaider Says:
November 29th, 2009 at 11:44 pm
And as I said earlier, Raiders75, you go from college educated to special ed student when you start defending Al. It’s as if you’re sacrificing all of your intelligence. It’s sad to watch.
………
I will be glad when Al is gone or hires a gm. Would prefer the former though because Al would only f’k up the GM thing like he does the coaching hires and drafts.
But part of me still digs what he used to be. Hard to see him all old and batsh*t crazy.
I just hope when he goes, we don’t end up with some Fords/Millen combo running the team. Raiders could go out of the frying pan and into the oven.
Would like to see the organization go the way of the Pats, Colts, Ravens, or Steelers.
November 30th, 2009 at 1:00 am
Seven teams in the AFC now have five or six losses, with the Ravens and Steelers both at 6-5. Denver had the best week of any Wild Card hopeful. If the season ended today, the Broncos stand alone as the fifth seed.
…….
This is a f’n shame.
Let’s see… Raiders are 3-8
Win in week 1 – 4-7
Win against Texans – 5-6
Win against Chiefs – 6-5
3 F’N games difference and as sh*tty as we are, we would still be right in the playoff race with games against Steelers, Broncos, and Ravens remaining.
November 30th, 2009 at 2:09 am
Mrs,Al has always paid the big bucks,where the hell have YOU been,MORON!Youre hate for Al blinds youre d— arse,He wants to WIN,he is the OWNER who pays the players who have NOT got the job done for goin on SEVEN YEARS,so SHUT UP w/youre Al wants to lose crap,Mr I will give you this,he needs a GM ,we need a GM,Season ticket holders should Demand a GM,and Im one of them,period ps post 234,all read what mr says,hope? nah,I need sleep,out
November 30th, 2009 at 4:21 am
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November 30th, 2009 at 4:26 am
Good Morning!!!
Hope everybody had a nice start 2 the holiday season
November 30th, 2009 at 4:26 am
NATION
November 30th, 2009 at 5:50 am
GOOD MORNING SPORT’S FAN’S, 4EVA
November 30th, 2009 at 5:55 am
Good Morning Nation!!!
Yeah, I can see Brown not getting in yet…
November 30th, 2009 at 5:57 am
Morning ALL…yep all them Raiders should be in the Hall,imo.They made the Nfl what it is
November 30th, 2009 at 6:04 am
They kept showing Plunkett in the box during the Thanksgiving game and asking how can a 2 time SB winner not be in the hall? Oh well…its the Raiders thats why…
November 30th, 2009 at 6:17 am
4evaRaider Says:
November 29th, 2009 at 6:59 am
The NFL should EMBRACE THE GREATNESS OF THE RAIDERS.Instead they dont honor their greats who made the nfl what it is.In this regard they are all like spoiled lil kids…hang on 2 petty vendettas and GOTCHA…BACK,imo
November 30th, 2009 at 6:22 am
Yup. 4eva….and that is why it is what it is now! Sad, but true!!!
November 30th, 2009 at 6:48 am
As long as Fargas continues to start, we will lose. What kind of stupid team starts Fargas over Bush?
November 30th, 2009 at 7:39 am
Goooo Lakers!
Fire Cable!
November 30th, 2009 at 7:40 am
Jerry Rice and Roger Craig Raider HOFers?
BS
November 30th, 2009 at 8:00 am
Has everyone given up on the Raiders? Where the hell are you guys!?!?
It may look bleak now, but just think of how great things will be with a real NFL head coach next season!
(knock on wood)
November 30th, 2009 at 8:02 am
we are in the desolation of losing Dakota…glad you made you’re trip home safely =)
November 30th, 2009 at 8:05 am
Anyone want to chip in and buy 10% of the Raiders?
You think I can’t stand Al Davis now…imagine if I owned part of the team he is destroying!?!?!
November 30th, 2009 at 8:06 am
Al must need the money to pay for another high draft pick…and Richard Seymour’s franchise tag cost for next year…
November 30th, 2009 at 8:07 am
Thanks 4eva…pretty ugly football last thursday huh?
Well, at least Garbagekowski will be our starting QB next year!
November 30th, 2009 at 8:13 am
8-8 is still out there….
November 30th, 2009 at 8:13 am
“Trestman had interviewed to return as the Raiders’ offensive coordinator in January of 2009 before Tom Cable decided he was going to appoint himself to the post. That appointment has been a decided disappointment and with Trestman securing the coveted Grey Cup as a head coach, he may now have his sights a bit higher than just coordinator.”
LMFAO Cable must have a career death wish! No, no, no, forget you Trestman, I can call the plays! I will beat defenses like I beat my women…hard and fast! Just win baby!
November 30th, 2009 at 8:15 am
Jim Fassell….UFL champion
November 30th, 2009 at 8:17 am
Trestman has ALWAYS been successful where ever he has coached. He would shape JaMarcus up….but then again he’s West Coast so not what Al wants.
November 30th, 2009 at 8:24 am
Shape up Jamarcus??
Pun intended?
November 30th, 2009 at 8:25 am
Coulda been worse cowboys threw the whole house at Grads…and he admitted he missd some wide open WR.well either we pick up another QB in F/A or Grads is da man,imo
November 30th, 2009 at 8:33 am
For some reason this Jason Smith, #2 pick in this past draft, concussion story isn’t gaining much attention, but I am on it.
First, the guy has struggled mightily at RT in pass protection. Than he got a concussion in practice, and was inactive from the game, yet still was hospitalized while vomiting on the sideline. Crowd-noise made him dizzy, he said.
Damaged goods? Not a good start that’s for sure.
Again, it is not the position we draft that is the issue, it is the players.
Eugene Monroe and Jason Smith don’t seem to be very good, and might not have long NFL careers. If we would have drafted them, we would not be any better today.
But if we would have taken Oher or Percy Harvin…..
November 30th, 2009 at 8:35 am
And props to C-Wood for the $2 million dollar donation to the University of Michigan.
But not for the football team, for hospital facilities at the university.
Nice work Charles
November 30th, 2009 at 8:39 am
I say we should try to get Cowher, Fisher (if available) or Gruden… in that order…
if it can’t be done… keep Cable and find an OC… Trestman???
http://www.cfl.ca/uploads/assets/CFL/2009_stats/Edmonton_Offensive_Stats.pdf
the above link takes you to the best QB in the Canadian Football League… he’s been pro for 8 years… 30 years old… mature, experienced, strong arm…
so i’m saying we should look at him… ’cause i don’t want to draft a QB… and i don’t like any of the potential free agents in the NFL…
i’m looking over the draft prospects for this coming draft… and just like last year, you won’t be seeing any skill position players…
November 30th, 2009 at 8:43 am
ooops…
his name is Ricky Ray… uh, the QB guy i think we should look at…
November 30th, 2009 at 8:55 am
Ricky Ray? This isn’t Nascar lol
November 30th, 2009 at 9:04 am
ricky bobby
November 30th, 2009 at 9:05 am
wicky wobby
November 30th, 2009 at 9:07 am
Dakota Says:
November 30th, 2009 at 8:55 am
Ricky Ray? This isn’t Nascar lol
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yes… Ricky Ray…
if he doesn’t work out… THEN we put him in a car and run him over a cliff…
November 30th, 2009 at 9:12 am
Ricky Ray is a Rainbow Arm.
He does not have the velocity to put the ball in the small holes needed in the NFL.
He’s a good QB but better suited to the wide open spaces in the CFL.
Jarious Jackson has a better chance to be successful but he would be considered too old now.
November 30th, 2009 at 9:14 am
Ricky Ray had a cup of coffee with the Jets.
Smart QB but a touch passer.
November 30th, 2009 at 9:14 am
Vegas,
Don’t you believe there might be a connection between draft picks struggling and being drafted by Schytty teams?
I seriously doubt Percy Harvin would be having a good season right now if he played for the Oakland Raiders. And Michael Oher got to go to a great team that has stability and a history of good o-line play in Baltimore…if he had gone to the Rams he might be struggling just as much as Smith.
I think a young player’s struggles has almost as much to do with who he was drafted by as opposed to the player’s abilities.
Chris Johnson very well could be a great RB, but place him on the Raiders and put McFadden on Tenn and I doubt Chris would be as great as he is right now and McFadden wouldn’t look nearly as bad as he does right now.
….but DHB wouldn’t be catching passes anywhere….
November 30th, 2009 at 9:17 am
c’mon Dakota…
nobody taught McTiptoe how to trip over blades of grass…
but you’re right about DHB…
he simply cannot catch…
November 30th, 2009 at 9:17 am
Trestmans Allouettes won the Grey Cup yesterday.
He has been noted by all the players and staff as the main reason for their success.
A class act all the way, probably too nice a guy for the NFL.
November 30th, 2009 at 9:18 am
Larz Says:
November 30th, 2009 at 9:14 am
Ricky Ray had a cup of coffee with the Jets.
Smart QB but a touch passer.
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sounds likes Gannon…
sign him up…
November 30th, 2009 at 9:20 am
oh, by the way… one of the people on my upcoming list of draft prospects for the Raiders is a guy named…
wait for it…
wait…
Wisneiwski !!!
(stevie’s nephew)
November 30th, 2009 at 9:21 am
I would love to see Popp (the Montreal GM) and Trestman get a chance at turning around a NFL franchise.
They are 10 times better than 3/4 of the team execs and coaches in the NFL today.
November 30th, 2009 at 9:22 am
Has it really come to the point where we are looking to the CFL to save the Raiders?
YIKES!
November 30th, 2009 at 9:23 am
Dakota,
Surely there is a correlation, I don’t doubt that. But a baller is a baller. You see Chris Johnson’s runs, is it the “stability” of Tennessee or the fact that he routinely breaks open-field tackles and makes guys miss in space. D-Mac doesn’t do any of this.
Percy Harvin would be having a helluva a lot better year than DHB, that’s for sure, and is a fantastic kick-returner. He didn’t learn to break tackles, be a play-maker, have great hands and be an electric open-field runner at Minnesota in 6 months, he had it all along.
St. Louis stinks and usually they do, but they developed maybe the greatest LT ever in Orlando Pace. The record of the Rams has nothing do with Jason Smith, at least in his rookie year, not being able to handle the physicality of the NFL.
So while you are right to an extent, no matter what teams you place DHB and Harvin on, Percy would be making a lot more plays, and Oher would be hammering people more than Monroe and Jason Smith. At least IMO.
November 30th, 2009 at 9:23 am
Larz Says:
November 30th, 2009 at 9:21 am
I would love to see Popp (the Montreal GM) and Trestman get a chance at turning around a NFL franchise.
They are 10 times better than 3/4 of the team execs and coaches in the NFL today.
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sounds like a plan to me…
actually…
any cognitive plan… that has a start and an end… the end being a consistently winning team…
is good by me…
November 30th, 2009 at 9:30 am
TW,
Do you have text MSG on your phone? I sent you a text this weekend.
Dude, thank you so much for the CD, you are a great friend. It was the highlight of a really bad weekend. My friends daughter has a brain tumor, my car at the shop needs $1400 to get fixed, I have to pay cash AGAIN for school, and my grades are suffering because I’m very stressed. I’m also having problems with my business!
I can’t remember the last time I was so stressed. ( don’t worry guys, I’m not going to do anything crazy).
Thank God for the green, friends like you, and good music!
Later guys, I have to go deal with this mess!
Legalize it.
November 30th, 2009 at 9:32 am
I’m calling the FBI
November 30th, 2009 at 9:33 am
vegas raider Says:
November 30th, 2009 at 9:32 am
I’m calling the FBI
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ask for JJ…
November 30th, 2009 at 9:43 am
What God? What do you want me to do? But Where? Vegas?! I’m on it!
November 30th, 2009 at 9:46 am
I was just messing with you dude, sarcasm gets lost in typing sometimes. Plus I know you can take a joke so I threw it out there.
Stay focused on school bro, that should be your number one priority after family. Everything else will fall in place, once you finish, so finishing should be priority numero uno.
November 30th, 2009 at 9:50 am
lol
You guys are funny. LMAO
I really have to go now, my 1st final is next Mon. Last chance to get good grades.
Later Gents, and let’s all pray for my friends daughter. She is only 5 years old, and her name is Faith in English (Eman in Arabic).
November 30th, 2009 at 9:52 am
Dakota,
forget Chris Johnson. Justin Forsett!!! has twice as many rushing yards this year than does your beloved McFadetoblack.
November 30th, 2009 at 9:55 am
Vegas,
Dude, you don’t need to explain yourself. I took it just as you said, it was a joke.
November 30th, 2009 at 9:55 am
Vegas,
Dude, you don’t need to explain yourself. I took it just as you said, it was a joke.
November 30th, 2009 at 9:55 am
Vegas,
Dude, you don’t need to explain yourself. I took it just as you said, it was a joke.
November 30th, 2009 at 10:23 am
there is a gap in the Matrix
November 30th, 2009 at 10:36 am
4evaRaider Says:
November 30th, 2009 at 10:23 am
there is a gap in the Matrix
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Dude, you don’t need to explain yourself. I took it just as you said, it was a joke.
November 30th, 2009 at 10:38 am
gap
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matrix
November 30th, 2009 at 10:39 am
after watching the game on Thanksgiving, I must say:
I am not impressed with ANY of our WR’s …
not Heyward-Bey, not Murphy, not Schilens. McFadden has better hands than any of them and he’s had fumble issues to work out. He also fights for the ball and gives 100 percent. those other clowns weren’t hungry
Bruce got taken down 2 or 3 times, but he was pressured an awful lot. his mobility is an asset, but he clearly has a noodle arm. the o-line is STILL garbage in pass protection
the running game was solid, but when we got down by 10 points Cable stopped calling for the runs. Fargas actually averaged over 5 yards per carry! Zach Miller continues to impress. Seabass & Shane are dominant
November 30th, 2009 at 10:44 am
on defense i was glad that we brought the pressure. Even giving up big plays in the run game, we still could have overcame those imo. Sam Williams covering Jason Witten is a joke. I hate to say this, but it’s true: nobody on the field could cover Miles Austin. He got the better of not only Johnson & Routt, but Asomugha. he made Nnamdi look like an average corner. thats rare
Branch should have been there to help CJ on that TD pass to Roy Williams. he should have been the one to shadow Witten too. I saw some good plays from Warren, Morrison, Scott & Huff on defense. Kelly, Seymour & Howard were invisable. it was like they disappeared or something?
November 30th, 2009 at 10:44 am
Raider75 Says:
November 29th, 2009 at 10:24 pm
Here is some food for thought…
DHB
11 Games – 9 Rec for 124 yards. 13.8 Yards Per Catch average with 1 TD
The “Speedster” DHB’s longest completion is 24 yards. He has maybe 3 total catches over 20 yards.
Crabtree
5 Games – 22 Rec for 292 yards. 13.3 Yards Per Catch average with 1 TD
The “Possession” Crabtree’s longest completion is 38 yards. He has several catches over 20 yards.
By the way, the League Average this year for WRs is 287 yards. (Crabtree is higher than that in only 5 games)
Funny how some guys on here claim Crabtree is NOTHING but a possession WR and DHB has all this potential due to his “speed”
Crabtree has the same yards per catch average as DHB and has connected on longer pass plays.
Crabtree’s last game he had 4 catches for 77 yards. That’s a 19 yard per catch average.
Crabtree has a 58 yards per game average compared to DHB’s 13 yards per game.
Yeah, that DHB pick is looking better and bet
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One of the many STUPID and Brainless Al Davis picks that I have seen in my life. Didn’t think it could get worse than drafting a freakin kicker in the 1st round, but making a pick that shouldn’t even have been an option at #7 just shows how much Al Davis has lost it.
Picking DHB over guys like Crabtree, Harvin, Monroe, Oher, and even Maclin and not even trading down was flat out one of the worst draft day decisions I have ever seen!
Thanks again to AL DAVIS fro RUINING the Raider franchise!
Us REAL fans of the Raider Nation who are not your lap dogs….appreciate it you screwing this franchise up!
Now go away!
November 30th, 2009 at 10:46 am
hey Vegas, 4eva, Raider O!
hope you guys had a great Thanksgiving weekend
November 30th, 2009 at 10:48 am
# islandraider Says:
November 29th, 2009 at 11:58 pm
The Raiders have a team payroll of $152,389,371.00 (league high) and they sit at the bottom of most offensive and defensive league stats.
Al, you pay the most and get the least.
Truly bizarro!
^^^^^^^Moe proof that Al Davis is a JOKE!
November 30th, 2009 at 10:50 am
no 1 man can effectively run an entire pro football franchise by himself.
especially not a stubborn 80 year old man!
November 30th, 2009 at 10:51 am
sup Nation??
November 30th, 2009 at 10:51 am
hello 408, dknight, m …
November 30th, 2009 at 10:53 am
Sup Nation!
November 30th, 2009 at 10:54 am
Hey Rockstar…DMAC…408
November 30th, 2009 at 10:55 am
hope your’s was 2!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
November 30th, 2009 at 10:55 am
wasssup
November 30th, 2009 at 10:55 am
raider QB’s jawalrus & bruce have been sacked 30 times in 11 games …
chief QB’s cassel & croyle have been sacked 38 times!
sd = 20 sacks
den = 20 sacks
is it any surprise that the 2 teams with the worst o-lines are at the bottom of the division?
November 30th, 2009 at 10:56 am
lmao!!!
November 30th, 2009 at 10:56 am
“The Raiders have a team payroll of $152,389,371.00 (league high)”
LMFAO
Well, at least Al is also hurting himself. No wonder he is looking to sell another 10% of his team to raise capital…only a fool would buy into this team unless they have independent verification from two doctors that Al Davis is going to be dead in less than 18 months.
November 30th, 2009 at 10:56 am
Why and the hell is Sam Williams still in the league? Is he dating Al Davis’ daughter or niece? WTF
November 30th, 2009 at 10:57 am
ZBS = Z B Schitty
November 30th, 2009 at 10:59 am
DMAC Says:
November 30th, 2009 at 10:56 am
Why and the hell is Sam Williams still in the league? Is he dating Al Davis’ daughter or niece? WTF
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Nope, he is dating John Herrera.
November 30th, 2009 at 10:59 am
CB/KR Justin Miller was cut by the Jets on Saturday.
re-sign him!
having Gary Russell attempt to return kicks is embarrassing… might as well throw the walrus in there, he has a pretty sweet spin move, ask Philly. LOL
November 30th, 2009 at 11:00 am
I said it once and I’ll say it again. As much as I like Captain Kirk, I truly believe he needs to go back in play SLB. We to draft a stud MLB or pick one up in free agency. (gets tossed around 2 much on run plays)
November 30th, 2009 at 11:01 am
Let’s throw manos de piedra DHB to return kickoffs! Let’s see that fk’n speed uncle Al loves.
November 30th, 2009 at 11:06 am
Lol, I laughed so hard I almost fell out of my chair when I saw Russell returning kicks.
You have to be fukkin kidding me Cable! A heavy-set fullback returning kicks?
Jezuz cripes you must be nutz!
November 30th, 2009 at 11:06 am
Oline in 10′…. All I want for Xmas is a RT C MLB and RG
November 30th, 2009 at 11:08 am
i have no problem with Sam Williams being in the league or even on this team. every team needs depth
he’s a good ST player.
but when is it ok to have him start and then cover one of the best TE’s in the game?
NEVER. Trevor Scott did a nice job. they should have started him at WLB and Howard at SLB. or maybe after placing Alston on IR signed somebody with experience like Morlon Greenwood or Derrick Brooks instead of playing somebody average and expecting him to be Superman?
November 30th, 2009 at 11:09 am
408RAIDER Says:
November 30th, 2009 at 11:06 am
Oline in 10′…. All I want for Xmas is a RT C MLB and RG
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Al Davis says, “You’ll get two new cornerbacks, a new safety and some tweener DE/LBs and you will like it!”
November 30th, 2009 at 11:09 am
and a stud DT or 2
November 30th, 2009 at 11:11 am
Put fu-kin DMC back there returning kicks.
Fumbled alot doing it in college but sheesh, Oaklands special teams look like shiz on the return.
Gary Russell? He’s not even good enough to run block.
I know its not priority but it should be. Oakland needs FULLBACKS that can open holes for its potentially talented running backs.
Like putting regular gas in a dragster.
What happened to Holland? He injured or what? Just when it looked like he was starting to get the hang of it, we throw G Russell back to return kicks.
Serious mismanagement of assets.
BTW, didn’t exactly see Gradkowski lighting up the revamped wide open offense either.
So was it just J. Russell who’s only got a third of the playbook down?
Grads been working with Paul Hackett since Tampa and thats all we got was standard crap plays. In fact, it looked even MORE restricted.
Some of that was Dallas’s ends not letting us outside but still…
Unfortunately for you Russell haters, its not just our former number one making the O look bad.
What a mess… Davis has tried to fix the O. Got some high draft picks languishing there but its been seriously f’ed up since Gannon got his neck broke.
I bet Cable stays head coach. Who else would want the job?
November 30th, 2009 at 11:11 am
Since we are talking draft here we go for 2010:
Round 1- Brandon Spikes. Physical, put him in the middle and move Kirk over to the outside.
Round 2- Rather than taking another youtube legend, trade the pick for a real everydown RB. Marshawn Lynch could be had, is from Oakland and is way better than anything we have. He actually breaks tackles from time to time.
Round3-We have two picks, either go both O-line or 1 O-liner and 1 DB. Routt must be replaced.
After that…..I will leave it up to Florida Pete and all his late-round gems
November 30th, 2009 at 11:12 am
i hope we draft o-line in the first 3 rounds and draft Tebow in the 4th.
last year they said he projects to be an NFL FB or TE
i dont care what anybody says. this kid would be a better NFL QB on Day 1 than Russell, Graddy or Frye
he’s got toughness, smarts, work ethic and he’s a proven winner
November 30th, 2009 at 11:14 am
back to work. later gents!
November 30th, 2009 at 11:17 am
November 30th, 2009 at 11:12 am
he’s got toughness, smarts, work ethic and he’s a proven winner
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He also has a Hideo Nomo super-long windup, serious accuracy issues, a million miles on him, and a less than NFL arm.
But hey I’m sure Cable will be able to advance all that he lacks, LOL
November 30th, 2009 at 11:18 am
Lemme at ‘em…
Dixon/Roethlisberger throwing to Hines Ward/Holmes
or
PolishPopGun/BayouBehemoth throwing to DHB/Schilens
= advantage Pennsylvania
Rashard/Fast Willie/Mewelde
or
MBush/CrashTest/McHog
= advantage nada
P!ssburgh D
or
Raiders own
= advantage (close your eyes)
oh well…
whenever I have reached a milestone birthday I always think “thank God I don’t have to do that (the past) anymore”. watching the Raiders since the Marc Wilson era has seldom afforded me the opportunity to have similar thoughts as repetition of unsightliness on the field seems to recur endlessly.
November 30th, 2009 at 11:18 am
Vegas no way we go LB 1st pic unless he runs a sub 4.20 40
November 30th, 2009 at 11:19 am
Charlie Weis fired!
November 30th, 2009 at 11:21 am
Doesn’t Tebow have 4.3 speed?? Be afraid Nation be very afraid
November 30th, 2009 at 11:21 am
408,
I know I know, but one can hope!!
But what if Spikes runs the fastest 40 time for a LB in the draft?????
Come on Brandon, work on that 40 time. The Nation needs you!!!
November 30th, 2009 at 11:21 am
DMAC 4real? Wheres the link
November 30th, 2009 at 11:21 am
Hope everybody had a great! Holiday weekend.
Yikes, were already commenting draft. My gawd you guys.
Thank god for the Sharks and Lakers.
My Christmas wish list is for Dakota’s wife to have a healthy baby.
4eva to find employment.
RRS and the morning crew to get back together.
LMN to get married and love the USA.
More later.
My plan of hope is taking shape. I’m going to visit a preacher, buddist monk, rabbi, and faith healer for my addiction to this team and blog, any suggestions?
November 30th, 2009 at 11:22 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
November 30th, 2009 at 11:08 am
i have no problem with Sam Williams being in the league or even on this team. every team needs depth
he’s a good ST player.
but when is it ok to have him start and then cover one of the best TE’s in the game?
NEVER. Trevor Scott did a nice job. they should have started him at WLB and Howard at SLB. or maybe after placing Alston on IR signed somebody with experience like Morlon Greenwood or Derrick Brooks instead of playing somebody average and expecting him to be Superman?
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Sam Williams is a joke. Wouldn’t make anyone elses roster (Maybe the Pats take him for a week or two)
No one would expect him to cover. Thats Oaklands defense unprepared and on its heels. They sucked and all too often look out of sorts.
Morrison sucks as D QB period.
Huff’s been doing more but he’s not ready either. He blew several coverages that allowed Austin such a big game.
Scott played standing up the majority of the game and was in coverage alot. Back fired on that red zone tip where he slammed into Tyvon Branch who would’ve walked into the endzone. All too typical for the Raiders.
CALL THE BALL!!!
Grade school BS.
Heard it mentioned Scott against Dallas reminded them of Brayton and not just cuz he wears 91 too.
Scott’s way better and I like how they’re using him more then just a pass rush specialist on 3rd.
Of course, like you pointed out, its only out of necessity.
Ricky Brown’s too little to play the position. Alston’s never taken the job and Williams has been a Davis charity case for waaaaay to long.
Hate to say it hate to, but who else can you blame for the Raiders cellar dwelling performances lo’ these long years?
The common denominator?
AL DAVIS.
I hate it. I hate where we are, what we’ve become and how we’ve been mismanaged into the abyss. Its beyond laughing stock and or pity. Now its just complete irrelevance.
Thanks Al.
It was always tough being a Raider fan. Now its this side of unbearable.
November 30th, 2009 at 11:24 am
http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/college/2009/11/30/2009-11-30_source_notre_dame_fires_head_coach_charlie_weis_.html
November 30th, 2009 at 11:25 am
What about me Dell?
November 30th, 2009 at 11:25 am
# 4evaRaider Says:
November 30th, 2009 at 5:57 am
yep all them Raiders should be in the Hall,imo.They made the Nfl what it is
4evaRaider Says:
November 29th, 2009 at 6:59 am
The NFL should EMBRACE THE GREATNESS OF THE RAIDERS.Instead they dont honor their greats who made the nfl what it is.In this regard they are all like spoiled lil kids…hang on 2 petty vendettas and GOTCHA…BACK,imo
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Do you drink, 4eva?
No, not the silly sorry “Hey everyone, I’m going shopping. What beer should I buy?” kind of drinking. I mean, are you a fall down drunk?
Do you even bother to read what you post? It’s idiot takes like the above that has people laughing at you, and Raider fans in general. Makes you look stupid. Makes you look “slow”.
Think about it. You state the NFL SHOULD EMBRACE THE GREATNESS OF THE RAIDERS.
Either you’re a babbling drunk, or you’re a full blown idiot. I’m not sure I care which one it is, actually.
November 30th, 2009 at 11:25 am
I know Troy Smith doesn’t have the Al Davis canon for an arm and he’s “too short” but that kid is a leader and a winner.
He’d be helming the Ravens if not for Flacco and likely winning.
Get Smith at least as Russell’s back up for next year till we boot his azz.
I still got Russell’s back and think he’s going to be a good QB, but man, clocks f’in tickin…
November 30th, 2009 at 11:26 am
Al Davis is making my escape from reality (football) affect my actual reality (life).
When I’m 40 and already on blood-pressure reducers, I am going to send a bill to Al.
November 30th, 2009 at 11:27 am
DMAC
What do you want for a Christmas wish.
November 30th, 2009 at 11:28 am
He richosh-it. 4 eva was talking about Raiders not getting the nod for the HOF and yeah, belive it or not their used to be some worthy players in silver and black who get silver and black balled by know nothing, never played the game writers simply because they hate Oakland and Davis doesn’t lick the medias scrotum.
November 30th, 2009 at 11:29 am
Why not put Trevor Scott at middle linebacker?
November 30th, 2009 at 11:29 am
Nmamdi,
There is a youtube video of the two (Russell and Smith) doing a sideline interview in their rookie years, during the LSU-Ohio State BCS game.
Smith is wearing his teams colors and blue jeans, speaks articulately and is focused. Russell is wearning god knows what, is goofing off, not paying attention….and well the youtube video is titled “Jamarcus Russell attempts to speak English”.
I will take Smith as well.
November 30th, 2009 at 11:31 am
Raider Dell…dont be suprised if a preacher,buddist monk,rabbi and faith-healer are addicted 2 this sit and team also lol
November 30th, 2009 at 11:31 am
I want a Oakland Raider teams that at least plays with a 500 record. Is that too much to ask for. I’m tired of being laughed at.
November 30th, 2009 at 11:34 am
DMAC
I just want a team that plays hard every game and starts DMAC and Bush w/ no restrictions for either.
November 30th, 2009 at 11:36 am
Oline help 4 xmas… Pleaseeeeeeee!
November 30th, 2009 at 11:37 am
Thanks Dell.
November 30th, 2009 at 11:37 am
sitEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
November 30th, 2009 at 11:38 am
It’s tuff supporting the Raiders, Warriors, and A’s. But I’m not giving up on my teams just yet. I’m 28 years old, hopefully I’ll witness a few championships from any one of my teams before I die.
November 30th, 2009 at 11:38 am
Hey, any of you guys have M*A*S*H seasons 3, 9, 10 or 11 on DVD that you would like to sell?
…or give away? lol
November 30th, 2009 at 11:38 am
Dakota
Anytime. GO Lakers!!!!!!!
November 30th, 2009 at 11:40 am
So, who do you all think is going to be QB next season. I am guessing Matt Leinart.
November 30th, 2009 at 11:40 am
DMAC Says:
November 30th, 2009 at 11:38 am
It’s tuff supporting the Raiders, Warriors, and A’s. But I’m not giving up on my teams just yet. I’m 28 years old, hopefully I’ll witness a few championships from any one of my teams before I die.
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
DMAC
Be careful. My dad said the same thing as a Cubs fan and never saw a world championship. I’m on the backside of my life and am wondering also if it will ever happen.
November 30th, 2009 at 11:41 am
GOOOO LAKERS!
Lakers were the saving grace of the Thanksgiving weekend…130-97 over the Ws…ouch.
November 30th, 2009 at 11:41 am
I’m tired of being laughed at.
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There there Richochet ‘o buddy maybe someday you’ll understand =)
November 30th, 2009 at 11:41 am
Hey Dakota, just download them off the internet. Theres tons of free stuff.
November 30th, 2009 at 11:43 am
DMAC Says:
November 30th, 2009 at 11:41 am
Hey Dakota, just download them off the internet. Theres tons of free stuff.
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I smell a set-up! I ain’t going to jail to save a few bucks on MASH episodes!
November 30th, 2009 at 11:44 am
You won’t go to jail. You’ll go to prison. LMAO
November 30th, 2009 at 11:45 am
Even Charlie Weis would laugh at us if Al offered him the HC job in Oakland….
DAMN!!!!
November 30th, 2009 at 11:47 am
Alan Alda would probably make a citizens arrest if I downloaded free MASH episodes, lol.
November 30th, 2009 at 11:48 am
The Raiders looked pretty good Thanksgiving! They got some first downs, no turnovers, and Heyward-Bey caught his first TD! Not bad! Hopefully the team can carry over that success against the Steelers and only lose by 10-14 points.
November 30th, 2009 at 11:48 am
and I can tell ya how it turns out Dakota
November 30th, 2009 at 11:52 am
My only goal for the team the rest of the year is to beat Denver and ruin their playoff aspirations.
I would say the same for the Steelers, but I don’t see us scoring many points next weekend.
November 30th, 2009 at 11:54 am
Later Raider Nation!
My lunch time has arrived. I’m off to In N Out
Secret menu lunch today.
Animal style Burger.
Animal style fries.
Choco Vanilla Shake.
My fix awaits.
November 30th, 2009 at 11:56 am
Dude get a Dell! LMAO
What happened to those commercials?
November 30th, 2009 at 11:58 am
Richochet Says:
November 30th, 2009 at 11:25 am
# 4evaRaider Says:
November 30th, 2009 at 5:57 am
yep all them Raiders should be in the Hall,imo.They made the Nfl what it is
4evaRaider Says:
November 29th, 2009 at 6:59 am
The NFL should EMBRACE THE GREATNESS OF THE RAIDERS.Instead they dont honor their greats who made the nfl what it is.In this regard they are all like spoiled lil kids…hang on 2 petty vendettas and GOTCHA…BACK,imo
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Do you drink, 4eva?
No, not the silly sorry “Hey everyone, I’m going shopping. What beer should I buy?” kind of drinking. I mean, are you a fall down drunk?
Do you even bother to read what you post? It’s idiot takes like the above that has people laughing at you, and Raider fans in general. Makes you look stupid. Makes you look “slow”.
Think about it. You state the NFL SHOULD EMBRACE THE GREATNESS OF THE RAIDERS.
Either you’re a babbling drunk, or you’re a full blown idiot. I’m not sure I care which one it is, actually.
reekingocheet
4eva 
may have had one too many silver and black koolaids 
but he definately is no babbling drunk 
or a full blown idiot 
Now you 
on the other hand….:roll:
November 30th, 2009 at 12:00 pm
vegas raider Says:
November 30th, 2009 at 11:52 am
My only goal for the team the rest of the year is to beat Denver and ruin their playoff aspirations.
And I
hope al davis 
lives another 25 years 
November 30th, 2009 at 12:02 pm
Charlie Wiess, welcome back to where you belong assistant coaching.
That idiot never say a pass-play he didn’t like.
3rd and 1, let’s run a screen.
Have the lead with a minute and change to go, let’s go deep!!!
I will miss Charlie coaching, made me some decent money over the years betting against him.
November 30th, 2009 at 12:04 pm
Vegas, if we are lucky, Al Davis will hire Wiess to be GM and head coach.
November 30th, 2009 at 12:06 pm
ring…ring…ring
Chalie Weis: Hello?
Al Davis: I am calling for Chuck Weis.
CW: This is Charlie Weis, to whom am I speaking?
AD: This is Al Davis, Managing General Partner of the Oakland Raiders. I’d like to meet with you about a possible position with the great Oakland Raiders, you wouldn’t be an offensive coordinator per say, you would be more of a director of passing game operations…
(Click)
AD: Hello? Chuck? Hello? Is anyone there? Hello? Herrera this is your fault!
JH: Yes boss.
November 30th, 2009 at 12:08 pm
# Nnamdi21 Says:
November 30th, 2009 at 11:28 am
He richosh-it. 4 eva was talking about Raiders not getting the nod for the HOF and yeah, belive it or not their used to be some worthy players in silver and black who get silver and black balled by know nothing, never played the game writers simply because they hate Oakland and Davis doesn’t lick the medias scrotum.
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No, peanut..the nit said “all those Raiders should be in the hall. They made the NFL what it is”
See..that’s ignorant. Makes zero sense.
Adding “The NFL should embrace the greatness of the raiders” is almost as dumb.
I take it back..easily as dumb.
As far as players being slighted? Because of Al?
No doubt. See, Al has spent his WHOLE LIFE screwing over players. Screwing over EACH AND EVERY COACH HE EVER HAD..screwed over his partner who got him in with the Raiders, and has been screwing over fans both in Oakslum, and LA, like no owner EVER HAS in any sport.
Al Davis is an embarrassment to the NFL. The man has never had an ounce of class. The man is universally despised. You won’t find a single person with a backbone who defends him. It’s only the meek sheep who insist others make their choices for them, then they blindly go along.
There is a reason players don’t want to be associated with Al Davis.
A reason coaches don’t want to be mentioned in the same sentence as Al Davis.
He’s the kiss of death.
To players careers.
To coaches longevity.
To players getting in the hall in a timely manner.
And he could care less. He views YOU as a flea. Not even worthy of his time, or even a nod in your direction.
Why should any writer, or schedule maker, or jury not try and return some karma he so deserves?
November 30th, 2009 at 12:08 pm
per se…excuse me
November 30th, 2009 at 12:08 pm
lmao
November 30th, 2009 at 12:12 pm
# DMAC Says:
November 30th, 2009 at 11:56 am
Dude get a Dell! LMAO
What happened to those commercials?
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The guy doing those commercials pulled a “Phillips” and got busted smoking ganja.
Dell said “adios, dummy”.
Guy was making big bucks doing those commercials, after having signed an extended contract after the early success of the first commercials..and stupidly lost it..”in a puff of smoke”, lol…the fool.
November 30th, 2009 at 12:12 pm
You won’t find a single person with a backbone who defends him.
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Hey Rack-O, I think Marquis Cooper’s family would disagree with your assessment.
November 30th, 2009 at 12:12 pm
The Seven Dwarfs were marching through the forest one day they fell in a deep, dark ravine. Snow White, who was following along, peered over the edge of the steep chasm and called out to the fallen dwarfs. From the depths of the dark hole a voice returned, “The Raiders are Super Bowl contenders.”
Snow White thought to herself, “Thank God… at least Dopey’s survived!”
November 30th, 2009 at 12:13 pm
# 4evaRaider Says:
November 30th, 2009 at 12:08 pm
lmao
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There you go.
Keep it short. To the point.
Less chance of tripping over your words.
November 30th, 2009 at 12:13 pm
Why do Al Davis draft picks keep their Wonderlic results on their dash boards?
So they can park in the handicap spaces.
November 30th, 2009 at 12:14 pm
what do you mean
November 30th, 2009 at 12:19 pm
# vegas raider Says:
November 30th, 2009 at 12:12 pm
You won’t find a single person with a backbone who defends him.
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Hey Rack-O, I think Marquis Cooper’s family would disagree with your assessment.
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Oh geez…go play your violin, and cry me a river.
Al Davis has done squat.
The man has destroyed more careers than anyone in the NFL.
Yeah, he did what he HAD TO DO.
I’m talking about Al screwing over Madden, and chasing him out of the game. About literally forcing Flores out, ending up in Seattle. About firing White on Christmas Eve, just because he enjoys the image of being a total jerk, and a “scrooge”..about making comments about how fans mean squat, and that he could give a damn about what the fans felt when he moved to LA…the scumbag refused to let the team show up for a parade after the SB in ‘02, all because he was PO’ed at Alameda County,..also refused to let the players show up at a seperate Fan Appreciation day, FOR NO OTHER REASON than to show who’s boss…that same lowlife held back thousands and thousands of SB tickets, that were supposed to go TO THE FANS, until he got caught…
He’s getting what he deserves…which is nothing..which is watching his organization collapse..which is his image and legend permanently tarnished.
November 30th, 2009 at 12:22 pm
I’m talking about Al screwing over Madden, and chasing him out of the game.
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Seriously, out of the game? I think Madden did everything and anything he wanted the last 30 years.
Hey Al sucks, I’ll give you that, but there is a reason he is in the hall-of-fame, and his teams success was only part of the equation.
November 30th, 2009 at 12:25 pm
Ricky…its a nice day,smile.Its ok that you didnt understand what I meant by the Greatness if the Raiders.Everyone else did.After all this article is filed under the heading
Raiders HOF semifinalists…I know that leaves a LOT of possibilities,waay 2 many 4 you 2 comprehend because you still havnt gotten the jist of the story-line after 380 something posts…
So smile lil ricky and just be happy the sun is still shining…The rest of us will tend to…oh never mind
November 30th, 2009 at 12:28 pm
Smell u later fellas!
November 30th, 2009 at 12:37 pm
Is Jamarcus going to talk to the press this week? I know he doesn’t HAVE TO anymore, but it would be a decent step in the right direction to his teammates, to accept some blame (which he really hasn’t yet).
November 30th, 2009 at 12:39 pm
reekingocheet
it sounds like your issue is with Mr. avis 
not the rest of the posters on this board 
November 30th, 2009 at 12:39 pm
Dammit, where is everybody, work is boring and I need to kill some time.
Anybody?? Draft talk…..Jamarcus is fat talk….Cable is an idiot…
I’m pretty flexible
November 30th, 2009 at 12:44 pm
looks like charlie weiss is coming to oakland
November 30th, 2009 at 12:49 pm
Frank YoooooooLLL Says:
November 30th, 2009 at 12:44 pm
looks like charlie weiss is coming to oakland
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Nothing like teaming up the fattest QB with the fattest coach. Maybe they can bond over the pot roast that Golic is always talking about with slim-fast.
November 30th, 2009 at 12:52 pm
Happy Troll…lilo richo would have NEVER figgured that out if you just didnt tell him lol
November 30th, 2009 at 12:54 pm
now that could be a possible angle 4 those so inclined…plus the buffet industry could rejoice =)
November 30th, 2009 at 12:57 pm
# vegas raider Says:
November 30th, 2009 at 12:22 pm
I’m talking about Al screwing over Madden, and chasing him out of the game.
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Seriously, out of the game? I think Madden did everything and anything he wanted the last 30 years.
Hey Al sucks, I’ll give you that, but there is a reason he is in the hall-of-fame, and his teams success was only part of the equation.
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Madden ended up in broadcasting as a fluke. Wasn’t by design.
And yeah, Al’s in the Hall of Fame.
Lot’s of people get in the Hall who are total scumbags.
OJ Simpson is in the Hall.
As is Al.
Both are in because of what they did in past lifes.
Ironic that Al just might be as despised as OJ.
OJ took two lifes.
Al’s ruined countless.
November 30th, 2009 at 1:01 pm
and they could get a magnetic game board and have magnetic food stores.Say like a completion of 7 yards on 1st down would be worth a bushel of corn or 1 prepared meal for 1 person the works and Jmac could learn how to feed a drive and keep it alive =)
November 30th, 2009 at 1:05 pm
flukes sure are convenient,imo
November 30th, 2009 at 1:13 pm
Al as despised as OJ? Nowhere close.
Old ladies have no idea who Al Davis is, everyone knows OJ and most don’t like him.
No comparision except in your warped little mind
November 30th, 2009 at 1:27 pm
If Charlie Weis became the HC or OC there is no way JaMarcus would have the motivation to lose weight.
November 30th, 2009 at 1:29 pm
Weis will not be coming to Oakland because we will be picking high enough to nabb Clausen and Al Davis will not draft Clausen. Weis will go somewhere that will be in position to take Clausen.
November 30th, 2009 at 1:31 pm
Raiders Grief Counselor Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
November 30th, 2009 at 11:48 am
The Raiders looked pretty good Thanksgiving! They got some first downs, no turnovers, and Heyward-Bey caught his first TD! Not bad! Hopefully the team can carry over that success against the Steelers and only lose by 10-14 points.
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joking, yes???
Hey-Bey did not catch that pass…
it went through his hands, bounced off his chest and he snagged it on the rebound…
he was too surprised to drop it…
November 30th, 2009 at 1:33 pm
Belichick’s OC and play-caller will be a young hot commodity especially if they beat the New Orleans Saints tonight. Weis will go back to the Pats to replace him and get his old job back. Romeo will be brought back to run the defense. Just like old times.
November 30th, 2009 at 1:39 pm
I posted here in the spring and all Florida Pete was talking about was this Jasper Brinkley MLB from South Carolina. He’s listed 6′2” 265. His forty time was on the slow side like 4.65 or something.
The Ray Lewis I saw last night is 6′1” 270 and I guarantee you his forty is around 4.7
Now who in this organization wouldn’t take Ray Lewis right now to be our MLB?
We seriously need to start taking football players instead of Combine Kings.
November 30th, 2009 at 1:41 pm
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