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Raiders HOF semifinalists

By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Saturday, November 28th, 2009 at 12:39 pm in Oakland Raiders.

Former Raiders among the 25 players who named as semifinalists for the Pro Football Hall of Fame Class of 2010

WR Cliff Branch, 1972-85: Al Davis campaigns hardest for Ray Guy, Jim Plunkett and Tom Flores, but Branch is the guy with the biggest gripe. A regular-season and postseason star. Contemporaries included Lynn Swann and John Stallworth, both in the HOF. I’d take Branch over either one.

WR/KR Tim Brown, 1988-2003: There are going to be some surprised people in Raider Nation when Brown doesn’t make it in his first year. Like it or not, there are a lot of voters who look at Brown’s stats and don’t see enough wins or a defining moment. They consider him like a 28 ppg scorer on a bad NBA team. Someone has to put up the numbers, even if they don’t mean all that much.

If Cris Carter wasn’t a first-ballot pick, neither is Brown.

RB Roger Craig, 1991: Gained 591 yards, averaged 3.6 yards per carry, scored one touchdown and had no run longer than 16 years in an end-of-the-line season after piling up terrific rushing-receiving numbers with the 49ers. That wouldn’t stop the Raiders from putting him their media guide should he be inducted _ which he won’t in 2010.

P Ray Guy, 1973-86: Two problems _ there are simply too many voters who will never vote for a punter. Ridiculous, of course. It’s a huge part of the sport, and you can leave it to Canton visitors to bypass his bust if they’re offended. Then there’s the “There goes the neighborhood” issue. Guy’s career stats are being obliterated by Shane Lechler, the heir to his legacy in silver and black. That makes the voters think, “You mean we’ll have to put in another punter some day?

CB Lester Hayes, 1977-86: Never clear as to why Hayes isn’t taken more seriously as a candidate. Think Charles Woodson is having a great season for the Packers this year? It’s not even close to what Hayes did in 1980 _ the single best season any defensive back has ever had. “The Judge” had 39 career interceptions and made five Pro Bowls.

WR Jerry Rice, 2001-04: In 2001 and 2002, Rice caught 175 passes for 2,350 yards and 16 touchdowns following two sub-1,000 yard season playing second-fiddle to Terrell Owens in San Francisco. In 2003, Rice finally started to show some age, catching 63 passes for 869 yards. He turned 41 that season. Those numbers are looking pretty good to the Raiders about now.

Look for Rice’s bio in your Raiders media guide next year, and deservedly so. Two great years and a turn-back-the-clock playoff game against the Jets following the 2001 season (9 catches, 183 yards, one touchdown) added to his legacy.

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  • Raider Dell

    Dakota

    Anytime. GO Lakers!!!!!!!

  • http://http://www.mensa.org/ Raiders Grief Counselor Albert Bigelow Paine

    So, who do you all think is going to be QB next season. I am guessing Matt Leinart.

  • Raider Dell

    DMAC Says:
    November 30th, 2009 at 11:38 am
    It’s tuff supporting the Raiders, Warriors, and A’s. But I’m not giving up on my teams just yet. I’m 28 years old, hopefully I’ll witness a few championships from any one of my teams before I die.

    $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

    DMAC

    Be careful. My dad said the same thing as a Cubs fan and never saw a world championship. I’m on the backside of my life and am wondering also if it will ever happen.

  • http://media-2.web.britannica.com/eb-media/63/60563-004-52A399D4.jpg Dakota

    GOOOO LAKERS!

    Lakers were the saving grace of the Thanksgiving weekend…130-97 over the Ws…ouch.

  • 4evaRaider

    I’m tired of being laughed at.
    *****************************************************

    There there Richochet ‘o buddy maybe someday you’ll understand =)

  • DMAC

    Hey Dakota, just download them off the internet. Theres tons of free stuff.

  • http://media-2.web.britannica.com/eb-media/63/60563-004-52A399D4.jpg Dakota

    DMAC Says:
    November 30th, 2009 at 11:41 am
    Hey Dakota, just download them off the internet. Theres tons of free stuff.

    ___________________________

    I smell a set-up! I ain’t going to jail to save a few bucks on MASH episodes!

  • DMAC

    You won’t go to jail. You’ll go to prison. LMAO

  • http://media-2.web.britannica.com/eb-media/63/60563-004-52A399D4.jpg Dakota

    Even Charlie Weis would laugh at us if Al offered him the HC job in Oakland….

    DAMN!!!!

  • http://media-2.web.britannica.com/eb-media/63/60563-004-52A399D4.jpg Dakota

    Alan Alda would probably make a citizens arrest if I downloaded free MASH episodes, lol.

  • http://http://www.mensa.org/ Raiders Grief Counselor Albert Bigelow Paine

    The Raiders looked pretty good Thanksgiving! They got some first downs, no turnovers, and Heyward-Bey caught his first TD! Not bad! Hopefully the team can carry over that success against the Steelers and only lose by 10-14 points.

  • 4evaRaider

    and I can tell ya how it turns out Dakota

  • http://blstb.msn.com/i/55/90A2853B6CFBCC2AFC987BB18B832.jpg vegas raider

    My only goal for the team the rest of the year is to beat Denver and ruin their playoff aspirations.

    I would say the same for the Steelers, but I don’t see us scoring many points next weekend.

  • Raider Dell

    Later Raider Nation!

    My lunch time has arrived. I’m off to In N Out

    Secret menu lunch today.

    Animal style Burger.
    Animal style fries.
    Choco Vanilla Shake.

    My fix awaits.

  • DMAC

    Dude get a Dell! LMAO
    What happened to those commercials?

  • Trolls 35 Raiders 0

    Richochet Says:
    November 30th, 2009 at 11:25 am
    # 4evaRaider Says:
    November 30th, 2009 at 5:57 am
    yep all them Raiders should be in the Hall,imo.They made the Nfl what it is

    4evaRaider Says:
    November 29th, 2009 at 6:59 am
    The NFL should EMBRACE THE GREATNESS OF THE RAIDERS.Instead they dont honor their greats who made the nfl what it is.In this regard they are all like spoiled lil kids…hang on 2 petty vendettas and GOTCHA…BACK,imo
    =============================
    Do you drink, 4eva?
    No, not the silly sorry “Hey everyone, I’m going shopping. What beer should I buy?” kind of drinking. I mean, are you a fall down drunk?

    Do you even bother to read what you post? It’s idiot takes like the above that has people laughing at you, and Raider fans in general. Makes you look stupid. Makes you look “slow”.

    Think about it. You state the NFL SHOULD EMBRACE THE GREATNESS OF THE RAIDERS.

    Either you’re a babbling drunk, or you’re a full blown idiot. I’m not sure I care which one it is, actually.

    reekingocheet :mrgreen: 4eva :cool: may have had one too many silver and black koolaids :lol: but he definately is no babbling drunk :oops: or a full blown idiot :mrgreen: Now you :mrgreen: on the other hand….:roll:

  • Trolls 35 Raiders 0

    vegas raider Says:
    November 30th, 2009 at 11:52 am
    My only goal for the team the rest of the year is to beat Denver and ruin their playoff aspirations.

    And I :cool: hope al davis :evil: lives another 25 years :lol:

  • http://blstb.msn.com/i/55/90A2853B6CFBCC2AFC987BB18B832.jpg vegas raider

    Charlie Wiess, welcome back to where you belong assistant coaching.

    That idiot never say a pass-play he didn’t like.

    3rd and 1, let’s run a screen.

    Have the lead with a minute and change to go, let’s go deep!!!

    I will miss Charlie coaching, made me some decent money over the years betting against him.

  • http://http://www.mensa.org/ Raiders Grief Counselor Albert Bigelow Paine

    Vegas, if we are lucky, Al Davis will hire Wiess to be GM and head coach.

  • http://media-2.web.britannica.com/eb-media/63/60563-004-52A399D4.jpg Dakota

    ring…ring…ring

    Chalie Weis: Hello?

    Al Davis: I am calling for Chuck Weis.

    CW: This is Charlie Weis, to whom am I speaking?

    AD: This is Al Davis, Managing General Partner of the Oakland Raiders. I’d like to meet with you about a possible position with the great Oakland Raiders, you wouldn’t be an offensive coordinator per say, you would be more of a director of passing game operations…

    (Click)

    AD: Hello? Chuck? Hello? Is anyone there? Hello? Herrera this is your fault!

    JH: Yes boss.

  • Richochet

    # Nnamdi21 Says:
    November 30th, 2009 at 11:28 am

    He richosh-it. 4 eva was talking about Raiders not getting the nod for the HOF and yeah, belive it or not their used to be some worthy players in silver and black who get silver and black balled by know nothing, never played the game writers simply because they hate Oakland and Davis doesn’t lick the medias scrotum.
    ============================
    No, peanut..the nit said “all those Raiders should be in the hall. They made the NFL what it is”

    See..that’s ignorant. Makes zero sense.

    Adding “The NFL should embrace the greatness of the raiders” is almost as dumb.
    I take it back..easily as dumb.

    As far as players being slighted? Because of Al?

    No doubt. See, Al has spent his WHOLE LIFE screwing over players. Screwing over EACH AND EVERY COACH HE EVER HAD..screwed over his partner who got him in with the Raiders, and has been screwing over fans both in Oakslum, and LA, like no owner EVER HAS in any sport.

    Al Davis is an embarrassment to the NFL. The man has never had an ounce of class. The man is universally despised. You won’t find a single person with a backbone who defends him. It’s only the meek sheep who insist others make their choices for them, then they blindly go along.

    There is a reason players don’t want to be associated with Al Davis.
    A reason coaches don’t want to be mentioned in the same sentence as Al Davis.
    He’s the kiss of death.

    To players careers.
    To coaches longevity.
    To players getting in the hall in a timely manner.

    And he could care less. He views YOU as a flea. Not even worthy of his time, or even a nod in your direction.

    Why should any writer, or schedule maker, or jury not try and return some karma he so deserves?

  • http://media-2.web.britannica.com/eb-media/63/60563-004-52A399D4.jpg Dakota

    per se…excuse me

  • 4evaRaider

    lmao

  • Richochet

    # DMAC Says:
    November 30th, 2009 at 11:56 am

    Dude get a Dell! LMAO
    What happened to those commercials?
    ==========================================
    The guy doing those commercials pulled a “Phillips” and got busted smoking ganja.
    Dell said “adios, dummy”.

    Guy was making big bucks doing those commercials, after having signed an extended contract after the early success of the first commercials..and stupidly lost it..”in a puff of smoke”, lol…the fool.

  • http://blstb.msn.com/i/55/90A2853B6CFBCC2AFC987BB18B832.jpg vegas raider

    You won’t find a single person with a backbone who defends him.

    ********************************

    Hey Rack-O, I think Marquis Cooper’s family would disagree with your assessment.

  • http://media-2.web.britannica.com/eb-media/63/60563-004-52A399D4.jpg Dakota

    The Seven Dwarfs were marching through the forest one day they fell in a deep, dark ravine. Snow White, who was following along, peered over the edge of the steep chasm and called out to the fallen dwarfs. From the depths of the dark hole a voice returned, “The Raiders are Super Bowl contenders.”

    Snow White thought to herself, “Thank God… at least Dopey’s survived!”

  • Richochet

    # 4evaRaider Says:
    November 30th, 2009 at 12:08 pm

    lmao
    ====================
    There you go.
    Keep it short. To the point.

    Less chance of tripping over your words.

  • http://media-2.web.britannica.com/eb-media/63/60563-004-52A399D4.jpg Dakota

    Why do Al Davis draft picks keep their Wonderlic results on their dash boards?

    So they can park in the handicap spaces.

  • 4evaRaider

    what do you mean

  • Richochet

    # vegas raider Says:
    November 30th, 2009 at 12:12 pm

    You won’t find a single person with a backbone who defends him.

    ********************************

    Hey Rack-O, I think Marquis Cooper’s family would disagree with your assessment.
    ===================
    Oh geez…go play your violin, and cry me a river.

    Al Davis has done squat.

    The man has destroyed more careers than anyone in the NFL.

    Yeah, he did what he HAD TO DO.

    I’m talking about Al screwing over Madden, and chasing him out of the game. About literally forcing Flores out, ending up in Seattle. About firing White on Christmas Eve, just because he enjoys the image of being a total jerk, and a “scrooge”..about making comments about how fans mean squat, and that he could give a damn about what the fans felt when he moved to LA…the scumbag refused to let the team show up for a parade after the SB in ’02, all because he was PO’ed at Alameda County,..also refused to let the players show up at a seperate Fan Appreciation day, FOR NO OTHER REASON than to show who’s boss…that same lowlife held back thousands and thousands of SB tickets, that were supposed to go TO THE FANS, until he got caught…

    He’s getting what he deserves…which is nothing..which is watching his organization collapse..which is his image and legend permanently tarnished.

  • http://blstb.msn.com/i/55/90A2853B6CFBCC2AFC987BB18B832.jpg vegas raider

    I’m talking about Al screwing over Madden, and chasing him out of the game.

    *********************************

    Seriously, out of the game? I think Madden did everything and anything he wanted the last 30 years.

    Hey Al sucks, I’ll give you that, but there is a reason he is in the hall-of-fame, and his teams success was only part of the equation.

  • 4evaRaider

    Ricky…its a nice day,smile.Its ok that you didnt understand what I meant by the Greatness if the Raiders.Everyone else did.After all this article is filed under the heading

    Raiders HOF semifinalists…I know that leaves a LOT of possibilities,waay 2 many 4 you 2 comprehend because you still havnt gotten the jist of the story-line after 380 something posts…

    So smile lil ricky and just be happy the sun is still shining…The rest of us will tend to…oh never mind

  • DMAC

    Smell u later fellas!

  • http://blstb.msn.com/i/55/90A2853B6CFBCC2AFC987BB18B832.jpg vegas raider

    Is Jamarcus going to talk to the press this week? I know he doesn’t HAVE TO anymore, but it would be a decent step in the right direction to his teammates, to accept some blame (which he really hasn’t yet).

  • Trolls 35 Raiders 0

    reekingocheet :mrgreen: it sounds like your issue is with Mr. avis :evil: not the rest of the posters on this board :roll:

  • http://blstb.msn.com/i/55/90A2853B6CFBCC2AFC987BB18B832.jpg vegas raider

    Dammit, where is everybody, work is boring and I need to kill some time.

    Anybody?? Draft talk…..Jamarcus is fat talk….Cable is an idiot…

    I’m pretty flexible

  • Frank YoooooooLLL

    looks like charlie weiss is coming to oakland

  • http://blstb.msn.com/i/55/90A2853B6CFBCC2AFC987BB18B832.jpg vegas raider

    Frank YoooooooLLL Says:
    November 30th, 2009 at 12:44 pm
    looks like charlie weiss is coming to oakland

    *****************************

    Nothing like teaming up the fattest QB with the fattest coach. Maybe they can bond over the pot roast that Golic is always talking about with slim-fast.

  • 4evaRaider

    Happy Troll…lilo richo would have NEVER figgured that out if you just didnt tell him lol

  • 4evaRaider

    now that could be a possible angle 4 those so inclined…plus the buffet industry could rejoice =)

  • Richochet

    # vegas raider Says:
    November 30th, 2009 at 12:22 pm

    I’m talking about Al screwing over Madden, and chasing him out of the game.

    *********************************

    Seriously, out of the game? I think Madden did everything and anything he wanted the last 30 years.

    Hey Al sucks, I’ll give you that, but there is a reason he is in the hall-of-fame, and his teams success was only part of the equation.
    ======================================
    Madden ended up in broadcasting as a fluke. Wasn’t by design.

    And yeah, Al’s in the Hall of Fame.
    Lot’s of people get in the Hall who are total scumbags.

    OJ Simpson is in the Hall.
    As is Al.

    Both are in because of what they did in past lifes.

    Ironic that Al just might be as despised as OJ.
    OJ took two lifes.
    Al’s ruined countless.

  • 4evaRaider

    and they could get a magnetic game board and have magnetic food stores.Say like a completion of 7 yards on 1st down would be worth a bushel of corn or 1 prepared meal for 1 person the works and Jmac could learn how to feed a drive and keep it alive =)

  • 4evaRaider

    flukes sure are convenient,imo

  • http://blstb.msn.com/i/55/90A2853B6CFBCC2AFC987BB18B832.jpg vegas raider

    Al as despised as OJ? Nowhere close.

    Old ladies have no idea who Al Davis is, everyone knows OJ and most don’t like him.

    No comparision except in your warped little mind

  • http://www.ibabuzz.com AlDavis Stopwatch

    If Charlie Weis became the HC or OC there is no way JaMarcus would have the motivation to lose weight.

  • http://www.ibabuzz.com AlDavis Stopwatch

    Weis will not be coming to Oakland because we will be picking high enough to nabb Clausen and Al Davis will not draft Clausen. Weis will go somewhere that will be in position to take Clausen.

  • Florida Pete

    Raiders Grief Counselor Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
    November 30th, 2009 at 11:48 am
    The Raiders looked pretty good Thanksgiving! They got some first downs, no turnovers, and Heyward-Bey caught his first TD! Not bad! Hopefully the team can carry over that success against the Steelers and only lose by 10-14 points.

    :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::

    joking, yes???

    Hey-Bey did not catch that pass…

    it went through his hands, bounced off his chest and he snagged it on the rebound…

    he was too surprised to drop it…

  • http://www.ibabuzz.com AlDavis Stopwatch

    Belichick’s OC and play-caller will be a young hot commodity especially if they beat the New Orleans Saints tonight. Weis will go back to the Pats to replace him and get his old job back. Romeo will be brought back to run the defense. Just like old times.

  • http://www.ibabuzz.com AlDavis Stopwatch

    I posted here in the spring and all Florida Pete was talking about was this Jasper Brinkley MLB from South Carolina. He’s listed 6’2” 265. His forty time was on the slow side like 4.65 or something.

    The Ray Lewis I saw last night is 6’1” 270 and I guarantee you his forty is around 4.7

    Now who in this organization wouldn’t take Ray Lewis right now to be our MLB?

    We seriously need to start taking football players instead of Combine Kings.

  • http://www.ibabuzz.com AlDavis Stopwatch

    New Post!