Oakland Raiders fan group’s I-880 billboard asks Al Davis to hire a GM
By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Tuesday, December 1st, 2009 at 11:09 am in Oakland Raiders.
The following press release was received today announcing the posting of a billboard today on I-880 from a fan group asking Al Davis to remove himself as general manager:
Erie, PA – – An international “grass roots” fan effort over the internet, headquartered over 2000 miles away from Oakland, has led to the posting of a billboard this morning on (I-880N) East side, near High street. The message on that billboard is a plea to Oakland Raiders owner Al Davis to “step down” as General Manager.
The effort is led by 22-year-old Jared Staszewski of Erie, Pennsylvania, who along with several other “disenfranchised” Raiders fans got together on an internet fan forum and decided that they would like to send a respectful message to Raiders owner Al Davis, asking him to relinquish operational control of the team to a Professional General Manager and winning coach who will not be “managed” from the owner’s box.
“We have nothing but respect for Mr. Davis and what he has done for the team over the years,” Staszewski said. “But that effort and our championships are in the past. I have been a loyal fan since 1993 and in those 16 years we (the Raiders) have only had four playoff appearances. We are now on track for our seventh losing season in a row and we believe something has to change,” he said.
“We thought a billboard, posted near the stadium might generate some awareness, create a dialogue among the ‘Raider Faithful’ and perhaps make a difference,” Staszewski said. The idea and discussion spawned a web site www.messagetoal.com to encourage signatures for a petition to the legendary Raiders owner, while also helping to raise money to pay for the billboard.
In less than eight weeks (and mostly through a word-of-mouth effort) MessageToAl.com has secured credit to get the billboard posted by their Dec. 1 target date, has raised nearly $2,000 of the $5,500 cost for the space. MessageToAl.com has also secured more than 21,000 signatures (toward their goal of 50,000 signatures) for their petition asking four things of Al Davis:
1. Please step down as “General Manager”
2. Hire a new GM
3. Hire a “Super Bowl” caliber coach
4. Agree to refrain from intervention in personnel or football operational matters
Staszewski said the strategy for the site www.messagetoal.com was based on some political web sites he had seen where visitors could express themselves and provide monetary support for a campaign they believed in. “This has been a labor of love for a lot of people who have pitched in from all walks of life and many locations to help send a message to the Oakland Raiders organization for change to help bring our beloved franchise back to the top, where it belongs,” he said.
“One fan designed the site. Another helped with the graphics, copy, and helped us establish a secure means of collecting donations. It has really been inspiring to see the commitment and passion these fans have for the team we have (and will) continue to support. Some disgruntled fans of other teams have worn “brown bags” over their heads or staged protests to try to get their message out there. We believe this billboard is a respectful way to give this initiative a voice and to ask Mr. Davis to allow the team to realize its potential,” Staszewski said.
The billboard, owned by Clear Channel media is scheduled to be posted this morning, along Interstate 880N, just ½ mile from the stadium and on the east side of the highway near High Street. Staszewski has faith that fans will continue to visit the site to help pay off the line of credit which has secured the posting. “We know times are tough and we’ll appreciate any support of and/or contributions to the cause,” he said.
“We believe in the organization and we hope that Mr. Davis might become inspired to ‘do the right thing.’ We believe he, our loyal fan base and the entire Oakland region will all benefit if we are to achieve our goal. We didn’t want to sit back and simply complain about our situation. We want to take steps to do something about it. We can’t make draft picks or coach from the stands. We can, however, bring the issue to light and respectfully request that the organization make some necessary changes which we believe can help the Raiders to fully realize their potential and to once again be considered among the NFL’s elite teams,” Staszewski said.
To learn more about this effort, to sign the petition, to help pay for the billboard, or just to help out, please visit www.messagetoal.com
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December 1st, 2009 at 11:10 am
1st
December 1st, 2009 at 11:10 am
LMAO!
December 1st, 2009 at 11:12 am
This will piss Al off even more and make him hang on at least 3 more seasons.
December 1st, 2009 at 11:13 am
Big Al cannot see the bill-boads from his limmo…so a waste of time,imo
December 1st, 2009 at 11:14 am
A loyal fan sinse when??? 1993 you say hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
December 1st, 2009 at 11:15 am
Atleast he’s doing something about it!
December 1st, 2009 at 11:17 am
Al Davis Response:
Dearest loyal members of the Raider Nation,
Although I view the current plot to remove me from power as nothing more than a weak gesture, I want to assure you that I have taken precautions in the event that these disloyal fanatics pose an actual threat. I do this simply for security and for the peace of mind of the members of my Loyal Raider Nation, not out of fear, because I have feared nothing in my glorious lifetime.
I have established two trusts that will consolidate my holdings of the Raiders and allow me complete control of the franchise forever. The first trust (Mark Davis Trust) is an irrevocable trust naming Amy Trask as the Trustee and Mark Davis, (and his heirs) as my Beneficiary. In this trust I have placed all my personal wealth and assets, excluding my shares of the Oakland Raiders. The second Trust (Raider Trust) is an irrevocable perpetual trust in which I have named Mark Davis as the Trustee and the Beneficiary and in this trust I have placed all of my shares of the Oakland Raiders.
How does this trust protect us you ask? The Mark Davis Trust shall carry with it the condition that my son, Mark Davis, or his heirs, obey all of the terms and conditions of the Raider Trust, or he will not receive a dime from the Mark Davis Trust. The Raider Trust gives specific instructions as to the certain attributes, characteristics and abilities that I look for in all of my employees and players. Specific charts will dictate what players are chosen in the draft based on combine numbers. Specific age qualifications, attitude characteristics and other true Raider identity specific attributes shall be searched out in free agents. Certain styles and schemes will be specified when hiring coaches and staff and all offensive and defensive schemes shall be dictated through the trust.
Do not lose sleep loyal members of the Raider Nation, I shall always be with you, and your children, and their children, and I will ensure the future of our organization, even from the grave.
Al Davis
December 1st, 2009 at 11:18 am
Al might listen if the Billboard included the “History of The Raiders” and all the Hall of Famers he want to put in that media guide.
Maybe he would realize that there will be no additional Raiders added to the list if he continues his control.
December 1st, 2009 at 11:19 am
what in gods name is he doing about “it”
putting some people 2 work making a bill-board…lmao.It is clearly seen this “fan” has been a fan sinse 1993 or else he would realize this type of thing is FUTILE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Little crying baby wants to change things…he will have better luck elsewhere,imo
December 1st, 2009 at 11:21 am
Big Al’s philosophy is ALL OVER THE NFL…CHANGE THAT AND YOU CHANGE THE GAME
December 1st, 2009 at 11:21 am
Hey whatever happened to the Nation Collective?
lol
December 1st, 2009 at 11:24 am
Thankx Dakota…this site wouldnt be the same with-out you,imo
December 1st, 2009 at 11:24 am
Fan-tastic, baby!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Way to go young man. Rumble young man, rumble.
December 1st, 2009 at 11:26 am
What an ignorant waste of time, energy and money. AL Davis will never see the billboard and it really makes zero difference to him what anyone out there thinks. How about some REAL football news?
December 1st, 2009 at 11:26 am
KK Big Al aint selling and you know that just as well as we all do
December 1st, 2009 at 11:27 am
I have always been against the “nation collective” and all that stuff, but I got to give this kid his props and do my part.
Next paycheck, I will send $25.
And I sent my Russell jersey to 504 Raider today as well. I hope he enjoys it.
December 1st, 2009 at 11:27 am
4evaRaider,
Do you go to home games? Are you a season ticket holder?….Obliviously not. It’s a start in expressing some type of change is needed from the fans. Davis method is not working. Throwing millions of dollars at players to come in and turn this thing around is not the solution. There is no motivation in this group!!!
December 1st, 2009 at 11:30 am
The people shall rise up and take down this tyrant!
December 1st, 2009 at 11:30 am
SC. What does attending games and season ticket owning have to do with him being incorrect? I had tix for the past 7 seasons and I attended all the games. This year, I didn’t renew. That is the ONLY way that anything can be noticed.
December 1st, 2009 at 11:30 am
Thanks 4eva.
December 1st, 2009 at 11:32 am
Al really mortgaged the future by being such a veteran-laden team in the 2000-2002 era (lol at 3 years being an “Era”).
Than Al was the man in place to build the future. Job not well done.
December 1st, 2009 at 11:34 am
Great idea. If it will encourage people to stop going to the games, I’m all for it.
December 1st, 2009 at 11:34 am
Florida Pete Says:
December 1st, 2009 at 11:24 am
did somebody say linebacker???
in the nect draft???
here’s the guy i’m thinking about…
not sold yet though…
Middle Linebacker
Micah Johnson, Kentucky
Height: 6-2. Weight: 254.
Projected 40 Time: 4.71.
Projected Round (2010): 3-4.
December 1st, 2009 at 11:35 am
Anybody take a picture of the billboard yet?
December 1st, 2009 at 11:35 am
SC as all on here know I live in Florida…went to all home games when I lived in LA.And I dont see what this has 2 do with ANYTHING.For ALL the idiots out there…Dont EVER go 2 another home game again…lets see what that does like your stupid bill-board.The nfl has 32 entities.The pot of gold is split 32 ways in T.V AND merchandising FOO.Soo in closing…it AINT GONNA WORK
Dakota quit encouraging the mentally lost
December 1st, 2009 at 11:40 am
KoolKell Says:
December 1st, 2009 at 11:24 am
Fan-tastic, baby!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Way to go young man. Rumble young man, rumble.
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Great Bundini Brown imitation. Float like a butterfly…..
December 1st, 2009 at 11:42 am
The Raiders, in conjunction with Maxim magazine, have persuaded the owners of the billboard to take down the anti-Al Davis sign and put up the following advertisement:
http://www.thesportstruth.com/images/gallery/christy-oglevee-nude.jpg
December 1st, 2009 at 11:43 am
Billboard, everyone knows that you need an overhead projector to get a message to Al.
“Fan since 1993″. Does he even qualify as a fan?? I thought you were born into the nation.
December 1st, 2009 at 11:44 am
Now there’s a play-book even Jmac would learn!!!
December 1st, 2009 at 11:44 am
Congratulations are in order to those who helped get this billboard up! I for one signed the petition, as I am sure some of you did. Hopefully this story will be on ESPN.
December 1st, 2009 at 11:44 am
Dakota Says:
December 1st, 2009 at 11:42 am
The Raiders, in conjunction with Maxim magazine, have persuaded the owners of the billboard to take down the anti-Al Davis sign and put up the following advertisement:
http://www.thesportstruth.com/images/gallery/christy-oglevee-nude.jpg
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so does this mean Al wants her as our next QB???
at least she’s hot…
December 1st, 2009 at 11:45 am
This kid better be ready for a ‘lawsuit’, Al will find something to litigate about…
You know it’s gonna get stranger…
December 1st, 2009 at 11:45 am
How about a billboard with Jadeadly and a big mac on it.
December 1st, 2009 at 11:46 am
EndZoner Says:
December 1st, 2009 at 11:26 am
What an ignorant waste of time, energy and money. AL Davis will never see the billboard and it really makes zero difference to him what anyone out there thinks. How about some REAL football news?
4evaRaider Says:
December 1st, 2009 at 11:26 am
KK Big Al aint selling and you know that just as well as we all do
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I know a lot of you Idolaters don’t want anybody to say anything to Al Davis. But that’s over.
Al will see the billboard. You can believe the hype if you want to that Al Davis doesn’t care what’s said. If that were true, they wouldn’t be as paranoid as they are, or beating up Reporters. HELLO, HELLO, any brains in there?
John Herrera has been dispatched to the Nimitz Freeway as we speak to photo the billboard,
That is a VERY high visibility spot, especially to
Raider Fans.
December 1st, 2009 at 11:47 am
Big Al just built himself a mansion in the Coachella Valley.He prolly wipes his azz with bill-boards
December 1st, 2009 at 11:48 am
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December 1st, 2009 at 11:49 am
Posts in this blog get back to Al, trust me.. The fact that a group of fans donated to send this message will get back to him.
It will also get a lot of press attention in the news tonight and maybe the national media.
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4evaRaider Says:
December 1st, 2009 at 11:13 am
Big Al cannot see the bill-boads from his limmo…so a waste of time,imo
December 1st, 2009 at 11:49 am
Is Al running a ‘Ponzi’ scheme?
December 1st, 2009 at 11:53 am
4evaRaider Says:
December 1st, 2009 at 11:47 am
Big Al just built himself a mansion in the Coachella Valley.He prolly wipes his azz with bill-boards
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Al Davis is on a catheter, he defecates into a bag. He doesn’t wipe his azz anymore.
December 1st, 2009 at 11:56 am
Not so much an Idolater KK…It’s just that Big Al has more money than God.As “you people”lol know Big Al has put his money where his mouth is time and again.To even insinuate Big Al dosent wanna win or he dont care is ignorant,2 say the least.Sure Big Al prolly knew of the bill-board AND its placement before the guy who put it up did.
Are we all pissed KK???You know what time it is…but in your honest opinion do you think this is gonna do anything??? I know everything gotta start somewhere…soo lets start with some continuity at the head coach position
December 1st, 2009 at 11:59 am
4evaRaider Says:
December 1st, 2009 at 11:56 am
Not so much an Idolater KK…It’s just that Big Al has more money than God.
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You don’t know what the hell you’re talking about. He’s one of the poorest owners in the NFL.
December 1st, 2009 at 11:59 am
Al will pass this new sign every morning and give it the proper salute it deserves – a gesture, that within his mind, we are still number 1; the fans are still number 1; and, where this new message will fit on his list of priorities as number 1. In other words, a single finger salute.
Al Davis salutes all of us, everyday. That must truly mean we are number 1.
December 1st, 2009 at 12:01 pm
# 4evaRaider Says:
December 1st, 2009 at 11:14 am
A loyal fan sinse when??? 1993 you say hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
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Oh wow… so it’s his fault he wasn’t born before 1993… lmfao!
This is why the Raider fan base is the stupidest group of oafs ever. You aren’t a REAL fan unless one of the following apply to you..
- Born in the 70’s
- Tailgate in lot D
- Live in Oakland (shivers at the thought)
- have Raider tats and beer a gut
- Seen Ted Hendricks play
- *insert your dumb reason here* there are a ton more from the trashiest and most pretentious fan base ever..
Note* – I am a Raider fan through and through.. Thanks
December 1st, 2009 at 12:04 pm
I can’t wait for MaddenRaider to get ahold of this one, lol.
December 1st, 2009 at 12:06 pm
my dumb reason is that NOBODY with a moniker like teabag can ever be a fan lol
December 1st, 2009 at 12:07 pm
# 4evaRaider Says:
December 1st, 2009 at 12:06 pm
my dumb reason is that NOBODY with a moniker like teabag can ever be a fan lol
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I will just consider the source here..
December 1st, 2009 at 12:08 pm
KoolKell Says:
December 1st, 2009 at 11:59 am
4evaRaider Says:
December 1st, 2009 at 11:56 am
Not so much an Idolater KK…It’s just that Big Al has more money than God.
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You don’t know what the hell you’re talking about. He’s one of the poorest owners in the NFL.
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OH MYYYYY GODDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
he’s 1 of the poorest OWNERS in the NFL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
EXACTLY how poor is an NFL OWNER LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOOOOOOOO
December 1st, 2009 at 12:09 pm
thats almost as funny as a poor real-estate agent omg lmaoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
December 1st, 2009 at 12:12 pm
December 1st, 2009 at 12:01 pm
# 4evaRaider Says:
December 1st, 2009 at 11:14 am
A loyal fan sinse when??? 1993 you say hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
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Oh wow… so it’s his fault he wasn’t born before 1993… lmfao!
This is why the Raider fan base is the stupidest group of oafs ever. You aren’t a REAL fan unless one of the following apply to you..
- Born in the 70’s
- Tailgate in lot D
- Live in Oakland (shivers at the thought)
- have Raider tats and beer a gut
- Seen Ted Hendricks play
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well at least you know your place
December 1st, 2009 at 12:13 pm
A poor nfl owner HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
December 1st, 2009 at 12:14 pm
OH MYYYYY GODDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
he’s 1 of the poorest OWNERS in the NFL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
EXACTLY how poor is an NFL OWNER LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOOOOOOOO
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4ever
You said Davis has more money than God. I just informed you that Al Davis is one of the poorest owners in the NFL, and the Oakland Raiders are one of the lowest valued franchises in the NFL.
LOLOLO? wtf is that? What your freakin point?
December 1st, 2009 at 12:14 pm
thank god 4 white women eh KK
December 1st, 2009 at 12:15 pm
I’m going to the Gym, and check out that billboard. Later.
December 1st, 2009 at 12:18 pm
My point is KK that you gave props 2 some kid that spent maybe 10,000 on a stupid bill-board and you talk about rumble on young man!!! Well then KK if you think it is such a smart business decision to put up said bill-board…then why dont you go spend some more money and REALLY get the message out…you know be like Big Al and put YOUR money where YOUR mouth is…is what I’m saying
December 1st, 2009 at 12:19 pm
# 4evaRaider Says:
December 1st, 2009 at 12:12 pm
December 1st, 2009 at 12:01 pm
# 4evaRaider Says:
December 1st, 2009 at 11:14 am
A loyal fan sinse when??? 1993 you say hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
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Oh wow… so it’s his fault he wasn’t born before 1993… lmfao!
This is why the Raider fan base is the stupidest group of oafs ever. You aren’t a REAL fan unless one of the following apply to you..
- Born in the 70’s
- Tailgate in lot D
- Live in Oakland (shivers at the thought)
- have Raider tats and beer a gut
- Seen Ted Hendricks play
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well at least you know your place
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Yes, I’m not trash…. so you are correct
December 1st, 2009 at 12:19 pm
My othyer point is…if you think this is such a wise decision…surely your wife has the business sense in the family
December 1st, 2009 at 12:23 pm
The billboard went up courtesy of donations!!
Do you understand the concept??
Another inept NATION member….
December 1st, 2009 at 12:23 pm
Teabag Says:
December 1st, 2009 at 12:19 pm
# 4evaRaider Says:
December 1st, 2009 at 12:12 pm
December 1st, 2009 at 12:01 pm
# 4evaRaider Says:
December 1st, 2009 at 11:14 am
A loyal fan sinse when??? 1993 you say hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
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Oh wow… so it’s his fault he wasn’t born before 1993… lmfao!
This is why the Raider fan base is the stupidest group of oafs ever. You aren’t a REAL fan unless one of the following apply to you..
- Born in the 70’s
- Tailgate in lot D
- Live in Oakland (shivers at the thought)
- have Raider tats and beer a gut
- Seen Ted Hendricks play
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well at least you know your place
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Yes, I’m not trash…. so you are correct
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Dear Teabag…please wear a shirt 2 the next home game that says your name TEABAG on it…please
December 1st, 2009 at 12:37 pm
Anyway the bill-board has it’s pro’s and con’s but imo…a waste of time and space.Big Al would rip out his catheter and piss all over it,imo
December 1st, 2009 at 12:46 pm
I’m sure a lot of Davis worshipers are going to call into question Staszewski’s age. I’d look at it another way, in that this current generation of young adults are not to be messed with, and will exercise their right to protest, unlike young adult Raider fans of the past, who subscribed to the belief that there’s just nothing you can do about Al, so you have to root for his system to work. It appears that mindset is now dated, and being replaced with the type of protest you’re seeing now. And, this is just the beginning. Al Davis can stay as long as he wishes, but now he’s facing pressure from from his own consumer base in the form of active protest, something he’s never faced before. He’s lost consumers in the past, but just due to individual indifference. Now there’s a movement amongst fans to empty his stadium and humiliate him, giving people who don’t like his management an option of joining a movement. Previously, their options were to support Al or “get off the bus”. That’s no longer the case.
December 1st, 2009 at 12:48 pm
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December 1st, 2009 at 12:48 pm
# The Real MaddenRaider Says:
December 1st, 2009 at 12:46 pm
I’m sure a lot of Davis worshipers are going to call into question Staszewski’s age. I’d look at it another way, in that this current generation of young adults are not to be messed with, and will exercise their right to protest, unlike young adult Raider fans of the past, who subscribed to the belief that there’s just nothing you can do about Al, so you have to root for his system to work. It appears that mindset is now dated, and being replaced with the type of protest you’re seeing now. And, this is just the beginning. Al Davis can stay as long as he wishes, but now he’s facing pressure from from his own consumer base in the form of active protest, something he’s never faced before. He’s lost consumers in the past, but just due to individual indifference. Now there’s a movement amongst fans to empty his stadium and humiliate him, giving people who don’t like his management an option of joining a movement. Previously, their options were to support Al or “get off the bus”. That’s no longer the case.
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Beautifully said… And I agree 100%
December 1st, 2009 at 12:48 pm
ah the beauty of youth and internet age. Well I wish Jared luck and feel bad that he has been a fan only since 1993. he sure missed out a lot. At least I got one SB win in my belt.
I doubt it will do him any good but gotta him props.
AlisGod
December 1st, 2009 at 12:49 pm
Staszewski said the strategy for the site http://www.messagetoal.com was based on some political web sites he had seen where visitors could express themselves and provide monetary support for a campaign they believed in.
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What did I tell you? ^^^ Al is not going to survive this new generation of Raider fans. They’re going to do him in. Finally.
December 1st, 2009 at 12:49 pm
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December 1st, 2009 at 12:49 pm
props to that billboard
what a bunch of negative punks in her, give the kid some credit, we go into these blogs, complain and complain about how Change is needed, this kid took some initiative to do something, unlike alot of us, and hes getting all this negative vibe, sh!t….WTF do you morons want, you want CHANGE no….lazy bums…nothing personal.
December 1st, 2009 at 12:50 pm
4evaRaider Says:
December 1st, 2009 at 12:37 pm
Anyway the bill-board has it’s pro’s and con’s but imo…a waste of time and space.Big Al would rip out his catheter and piss all over it,imo
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It’s a waste, to you, because you have nothing invested in the Raiders.
You don’t go to games.
You don’t support the team.
You just post on this, and other boards, where you get your desperately needed pats on the head.
Waste of time and money?
Watch. It will get air time. Guaranteed will be on the local shows. Guarantee ALL of the local writers will allude to it, at some time or another. Some many times.
Might get some national coverage..shot on ESPN as they get yet another reason to laugh at Al, and the Raiders.
I suspect Leno or Letterman, maybe both, maybe others, will use a shot of the billboard in any number of comedy skits, along the line of ‘If you don’t like your boss/owner, do what some Raider fans did..put up a message’.
Yes, LMFAO that somehow, someway, Al creates the scenario for others to laugh at him..all of it deserved.
December 1st, 2009 at 12:52 pm
what world do you live in…as long as Big Al sucks air it gonna be his way…why you ask???Because he did ALL this…NOT YOU
December 1st, 2009 at 12:52 pm
off 2 the “garden store” be back 2 continue this 1
December 1st, 2009 at 12:54 pm
aig Says:
December 1st, 2009 at 12:48 pm
ah the beauty of youth and internet age. Well I wish Jared luck and feel bad that he has been a fan only since 1993. he sure missed out a lot. At least I got one SB win in my belt.
I doubt it will do him any good but gotta him props.
AlisGod
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Unlike you, he’s doing something.
Unlike you, he’s making a statement.
I suppose he could do what you do, which is beat women, then state they deserved it because they cheated on your “stay at home, get fat, and sit on couch” sorry ass.
Dude, you admitted you’re unemployed.
You admitted you sit at home while the wife works.
You admitted you are SCARED AS HELL when you see “guys walking down the street, so you quickly move to the other side of the street”…
BUT you also admit you’re brave when it’s a woman you’re hitting on.
Now, get back to another bag of chips, and your oprah.
December 1st, 2009 at 12:55 pm
oh and 1 more thing…
Richochet you little girl go play with your dolls.You wasnt alive when…oh never mind you aint alive now you lil sissy…I fart at you and you love it lil girl
December 1st, 2009 at 12:56 pm
# DMAC Says:
December 1st, 2009 at 11:45 am
How about a billboard with Jadeadly and a big mac on it.
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Evidently the folks at MessageToAl had this crazy idea of READING, and DOING RESEARCH, something that’s foreign to Raider fans, I know. But in this research, get this, they found that the Raiders have sucked for 7 years, and that Russell has only been here for 3! Can you believe that? I mean, who woulda thunk? I thought Russell was here all of those 7 years, too, doing all of our drafting and team building. I’m blown away. Pass me Natty and some buffalo wings.
December 1st, 2009 at 12:57 pm
MR says “in that this current generation of young adults are not to be messed with, and will exercise their right to protest, unlike young adult Raider fans of the past, who subscribed to the belief that there’s just nothing you can do about Al, so you have to root for his system to work.”
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MR you were doing so well, gaining support of the masses whipping up support etc,. Why did you have to mess with the older generation of Raider fans? A billboard is the best the “younger generation” of Raider fans can do? Maybe next year the “younger generation” can put some neon lights around it.
Oh wait let me prepackage your response.
“blah,blah,blah,blah,quote SI from the ’90s. DT42 you are an Al Davis Lover whine,whine,whine,cry,cry,cry and press the submit comment button.
December 1st, 2009 at 12:59 pm
I beleive the players should take out a billboard.
It would probably go up too soon and get moved back five yards from the road.
December 1st, 2009 at 1:00 pm
Young adults are protesting today in a way America hasn’t seen since the ’60s, and now Al Davis is feeling the shockwaves. I guess he thought he was immune to this because his fans are so loyal. Just another exhibit as to how out of touch he is with not only the NFL, but the world we’re living in.
December 1st, 2009 at 1:02 pm
DT42, enjoy Al while he lasts. This generation of young Raider fans are taking him down. They’re going to hit is wallet and his image.
December 1st, 2009 at 1:02 pm
Over under on Gradkowski’s QB rating for the Pittsburg game?….anyone?
December 1st, 2009 at 1:05 pm
Oh Richochet,
How are you honey? Your right as usual. Up to your typical self of barking at everyone I C. You’re just like a little chiguagua in my neighborhood, barking at everyone walking by. Tell me is it insecurity or lack of “length” that makes bark so much?
Yo Quero Taco Bell?
December 1st, 2009 at 1:06 pm
I’m thinking he will finish the first half at about 42%
Pittsburg will back off in the second half just like the Cowboys.
He will however be praised for his “punctuality”.
All the great ones were punctual.
December 1st, 2009 at 1:08 pm
I think the Davis worshipers like DT42, End Zoner, and 4evaRaider need to look up the effectiveness of billboards. See, it’s not just to get Al’s attention. Everyone driving by that billboard will see it, too. That means MessageToAl gets more members, and more money, and eventually, another billboard. Imagine it, for every Raiders’ billboard, that advertises grossly overpriced tickets for lousy football, there’ll be a billboard demanding that Davis step down. Getting Al’s attention is only half of it. It’s a marketing campaign, as well, and marketing ALWAYS works. Think of all of the Raider fans who quit watching football over the years because of how bad Al is, or, the Raider fans in the bay who never forgave Al for moving the team in ‘82 to begin with. The potential for recruitment is endless.
December 1st, 2009 at 1:11 pm
And what’s going to be interesting is the Raiders’ response. Does Al keep his cool and keep his eyes on the prize, a Super Bowl championship? Or, does Al take the bait and start insulting his own fans? Considering that Al hasn’t had a goal of winning a Super Bowl since 1998, I think the answer’s obvious.
December 1st, 2009 at 1:12 pm
MR:
Enjoy Al Daivis? Your the one with the stiffy for him not me. You called out my generation of Raider fans and I responded. I’m a RAIDER FAN not an Al Davis fan. I’ve critized him for his crap job as a GM in the past and congratualted the TEAM when they win. If Al drops tommorow i’ll give him an RIP but I won’t stop being a RAIDER fan. If Al dies tomorrow your posts will go down about 98% because for you its all about Al and not about the Raiders.
December 1st, 2009 at 1:13 pm
50% completion if Green can keep Woodley off of Grad. So far he can at least find the open guy. Whether he delivers the ball on target like drew brees did last nite…we will see.
December 1st, 2009 at 1:19 pm
Now we are talking
Finally
Somebody had the cojones to do this…
December 1st, 2009 at 1:20 pm
VanHeathen Says:
December 1st, 2009 at 11:45 am
This kid better be ready for a ‘lawsuit’, Al will find something to litigate about…
You know it’s gonna get stranger…
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1st amendment says “Bring it, Old Man. I’m entitled to my opinion, and there is squat you can do about it.”
December 1st, 2009 at 1:22 pm
aig Says:
December 1st, 2009 at 1:13 pm
50% completion if Green can keep Woodley off of Grad. So far he can at least find the open guy. Whether he delivers the ball on target like drew brees did last nite…we will see.
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I’m sorry..did you just say “deliver on target like Brees did”??
What are you, a comedian?
We already know you’re a coward, and a worm, but a comedian?
Tri-fecta.
December 1st, 2009 at 1:25 pm
aig Says:
December 1st, 2009 at 1:05 pm
Oh Richochet,
How are you honey? Your right as usual. Up to your typical self of barking at everyone I C. You’re just like a little chiguagua in my neighborhood, barking at everyone walking by. Tell me is it insecurity or lack of “length” that makes bark so much?
Yo Quero Taco Bell?
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See? lol…a coward, a worm, and an idiot.
What the hell is a chiguagua?
OH..you mean chihuahua? Yes, LMFAO at you making it perfectly clear why you’re unemployed.
Hey..don’t get so frazzled.
See, it was YOU that pointed out how “it’s so scary where I live. I cross the street whenever someone even looks at me. These guys might hurt me.”
But it was ALSO YOU who admitted you beat your wife.
I love embarrassing and calling out cowards.
Especially when they admit to being one.
December 1st, 2009 at 1:27 pm
Acoording to that site the billboard is up…
http://www.messagetoal.com/billboard/info/
Great times ahead for raider nation.
JT
December 1st, 2009 at 1:29 pm
Luv the message to al campaign!
It has been long overdue!
Al Davis needs to step aside and hire a REAL gm/personnel man and a REAL head coach so they can work together to bring this team back to respectabkility and stop being an embarassment.
December 1st, 2009 at 1:29 pm
Billboard being put up on I-880 N
WELCOME TO CITY OF INDUSTRY AL DAVIS!
Ed Roski
December 1st, 2009 at 1:34 pm
AL DAVIS SUCKS and he doesn’t care about the fans of the Raider Nation!
So I ask…why should we care about making him money by going to the depressing games?
Not until he makes changes for the better of the team and organization by stepping aside from making personnel and operational decisions, then and only then will the team turn it around on the field.
December 1st, 2009 at 1:35 pm
4eva why pick on how long someone been a fan guy was in his 20’s so gotta do the math, I almost have more respect for the Raider fans younger than me I grew up watching Plunkett,Lester Hayes,Mike Haynes,VanMac,Christensen,Howie,Lyle,Millen and legendary Marcus Allen look at this garbage the last 7yrs and its attracting new fans damn, me Im a lifer so im stuck but for some one to willing jump on this ship wow.
December 1st, 2009 at 1:36 pm
Kirk Says:
December 1st, 2009 at 7:25 am
The QB position in the NFL has become like the point guard in basketball. Brees pump fakes on almost every play to keep the defense off guard. Farve does the same thing. We need to teach our QBs to do the same this as well.
^^^^^^^^
Gannon did the pump fakes all the time when he was here tearing it up!
December 1st, 2009 at 1:36 pm
Can it get any crazier?
A billboard begging Al to resign?
LMFAO!
Empty stadiums, disgruntled fans …
DAMN IT!
December 1st, 2009 at 1:38 pm
What is the “City of Industry’s” biggest industry?
Porn or Meth?
Just wondering…
December 1st, 2009 at 1:42 pm
Hey Richochet,
You’re right as always. You da man!
I got this linkie for you.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k7z1vPmFHbo
December 1st, 2009 at 1:43 pm
Gannon had a great Oline in 2002. Until Al builds another great Oline, our QB will not be pump faking anything.
December 1st, 2009 at 1:45 pm
Will Al admit to seeing it?
Doubt it.
But he’ll see it..you know that.
Even though he acts like he could care less, you can tell by his last couple of PC’s that he hates the negative press…detailed comments in the Seymour PC, also detailed comments in the “See ya, Kiffin” PC..so his “can’t be bothered” is a charade.
However, telling Al to butt out? to admit he’s a massive failure as the team’s GM? Hire someone to do what he couldn’t?
snow balls chance in hell.
All this will do is likely prompt him to defintely find a scapegoat for the problems…which only means one thing.
“Is this Bekins? Yeah..I’m going to be moving…name is Cable.”
December 1st, 2009 at 1:48 pm
The headquarters for Hot Topic,Newegg.com, Emtek Products, Public Health Foundation Enterprises, Inc., and Engineering Model Associates/Plastruct are among some of the premier companies located in Industry. Other businesses with a major presence in the City of Industry include:
Alta Dena
CSC Enterprise Corp.
DUB Magazine
FedEx
Micro-Star International
Vigor Gaming
A former IKEA store located north of the Puente Hills Mall and across the 60 Freeway was used as a shooting location for the final fight scene in Mr. and Mrs. Smith. Its exterior was renovated so it could be used for both exterior and interior filming; it was later demolished.
December 1st, 2009 at 1:48 pm
aig Says:
December 1st, 2009 at 1:42 pm
Hey Richochet,
You’re right as always. You da man!
I got this linkie for you.
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Can’t be bothered clicking on a link that you hope will say what you can’t.
You’re a coward..and rushing to find someone else to speak for you just enhances your “worm” image even more.
And you didn’t think you could be a bigger worm, did you?
Tell me something..when you backhanded your wife? Did you feel like a big man? Feel all proud? Tough guy?
December 1st, 2009 at 1:48 pm
I forgot to credit wiki.
December 1st, 2009 at 1:51 pm
The City of Industry has no business taxes and is primarily funded through retail sales tax from shopping centers located within the city limits. In addition, there is a revenue-generating hillside hotel resort, known as the Pacific Palms Resort (formerly the Industry Hills Sheraton), which is almost completely surrounded by the city of La Puente but actually located in the City of Industry.
Industry is also home to a Foreign Trade Zone, a business-friendly zone that is physically inside the United States, but outside the U.S. Customs territory.
City of Industry is a popular investment area for Chinese businessmen and the city has also emerged as a high-tech import/export center for computer parts, with business links to the Asian marketplace. For convenience many Chinese entrepreneurs and staff live in nearby Rowland Heights, Hacienda Heights, West Covina and Walnut.
Industry is also the location for the proposed Los Angeles Stadium.
December 1st, 2009 at 1:53 pm
No business taxes and lots of Chinese money. Is Al taking Mandarin classes?
December 1st, 2009 at 1:54 pm
DKnight007, watch Brees and Farve, they use pump fakes to draft off the defense. The players are too fast these days for a QB to stare at a receiver and throw it to him. Also, sometime Brees throws the ball within 3 seconds leaving no time for the defense to sack him.
December 1st, 2009 at 1:55 pm
Goooooo Lakers!
December 1st, 2009 at 1:58 pm
Kirk Says:
December 1st, 2009 at 1:54 pm
DKnight007, watch Brees and Farve, they use pump fakes to draft off the defense. The players are too fast these days for a QB to stare at a receiver and throw it to him. Also, sometime Brees throws the ball within 3 seconds leaving no time for the defense to sack him.
^^^^^^^^Yep!
Thats how Gannon played when he was here as well.
December 1st, 2009 at 2:05 pm
Bobby Bowden once said “After you retire, there’s only one big event left,” “And I ain’t ready for that.” Al will not retire. Dream on.
December 1st, 2009 at 2:22 pm
exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:
December 1st, 2009 at 2:05 pm
Bobby Bowden once said “After you retire, there’s only one big event left,” “And I ain’t ready for that.” Al will not retire. Dream on.
^^^^^^^The stubborn old man doesn’t need to retire….he just needs to be a normal owner and sit back and let others make the football decisions.
He SUCKS!! haha
December 1st, 2009 at 2:27 pm
It won’t effect Big AL but this is funny as heck!
Good job man, keep up the good work!
December 1st, 2009 at 2:34 pm
Right on…something is better than nothing. Hopefully the billboard will catch the attention of the Commissioner more than it will of Al Davis because we know AD really doesn’t care but if enough people show that they care, maybe that can help make a difference.
December 1st, 2009 at 2:38 pm
Wow. I didn’t even know about this website. I can’t wait to see this on my way home from work…
December 1st, 2009 at 2:45 pm
Anyone in here send any dough to the website?
AS much as I stick up for Al in here at times, I like the gumption of this kid, so I’m sending $25 next week.
What about you MR? Can mommy spare some change for you to be part of something I’m sure you so desperately want to be part of?
December 1st, 2009 at 2:48 pm
Jerry Mac’s blog gets a lot of traffic. These kids got a huge boost when he posted this article on this site I’ll bet. It is on PFT yet?
I signed the petition.
December 1st, 2009 at 2:50 pm
I saw the billboard a couple of hours ago. _Fan-tastic, it’s in Silver n Black too.
Northbound 880 @ High St exit.
December 1st, 2009 at 2:50 pm
all the posters who are here every day complaining about Al Davis now have a chance to become proactive.
Kell & MR claim to be big shots rollin’ in dough. lets see if they’ll put their money where their mouth is!
December 1st, 2009 at 2:51 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
December 1st, 2009 at 1:08 pm
I think the Davis worshipers like DT42, End Zoner, and 4evaRaider need to look up the effectiveness of billboards. See, it’s not just to get Al’s attention. Everyone driving by that billboard will see it, too. That means MessageToAl gets more members, and more money, and eventually, another billboard. Imagine it, for every Raiders’ billboard, that advertises grossly overpriced tickets for lousy football, there’ll be a billboard demanding that Davis step down. Getting Al’s attention is only half of it. It’s a marketing campaign, as well, and marketing ALWAYS works. Think of all of the Raider fans who quit watching football over the years because of how bad Al is, or, the Raider fans in the bay who never forgave Al for moving the team in ‘82 to begin with. The potential for recruitment is endless.
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thyo I admire the poster for most of his posts…Thye 1 thing that seems to escape most posters is…
This is a Dick-tatership run by king dickk,I mean Big Al…bill-board away my sillies
December 1st, 2009 at 2:51 pm
I signed the petition and sent $10. I know it will do no good but they have balls. LOL. I expect a visit tonight from Vito and the boys.
December 1st, 2009 at 2:53 pm
Exla,
i live in Podunk. Big Al’s goons will never find me!
haha
December 1st, 2009 at 2:54 pm
Some of you people swallow every piece of propaganda that comes out of Raider HQ.
If Al Davis doesn’t care what said about him, then why is he so paranoid of the Media?
Why send his goons to beat up Tim Kawakami?
Can’t you people use your own brains?
December 1st, 2009 at 2:57 pm
I need the link that says Al Davis is paranoid of the media
December 1st, 2009 at 3:00 pm
I wonder how much good a new GM would have in Oakland. you know he wouldn’t have any power, say or control over football operations or personnel.
Might as well name Trask, Taylor or Herrerra GM …
December 1st, 2009 at 3:00 pm
would do (not would have) in Oakland
sorry
December 1st, 2009 at 3:00 pm
I’m seriously thinking of picketing outside HQ with anti-Al Davis signs.
December 1st, 2009 at 3:01 pm
later gents. 5pm in Podunk!
woopeee
December 1st, 2009 at 3:01 pm
and another thing kamakowi needs he lil pie-hole shut
December 1st, 2009 at 3:01 pm
Breaking News:
The Associated Press is reporting that the Billboard placed on I-880N is true, however it is not associated with the website messagetoal.com and said website is a scam set up by Denver Bronco fans to scam Raider fans out of their money.
Muhahahaha
December 1st, 2009 at 3:06 pm
4evaRaider Says:
December 1st, 2009 at 2:57 pm
I need the link that says Al Davis is paranoid of the media
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You need to get real, and quit accepting losing.
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vault/article/magazine/MAG1008197/2/index.htm
December 1st, 2009 at 3:12 pm
4evaRaider Says:
December 1st, 2009 at 3:01 pm
and another thing kamakowi needs he lil pie-hole shut
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What a weak statement. All you little cultists are afraid of the written word.
December 1st, 2009 at 3:14 pm
KoolKell Says:
December 1st, 2009 at 3:00 pm
I’m seriously thinking of picketing outside HQ with anti-Al Davis signs.
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Instead of wasting your time, why don’t you donate to the site which already has some momentum going?
Al might send out some of his goons to give you the SEIU to protesters treatment!!
December 1st, 2009 at 3:14 pm
All Cults isolate their weak-minded little disciples. The better to brainwash.
December 1st, 2009 at 3:15 pm
Vegas
I will donate, as well.
December 1st, 2009 at 3:18 pm
KoolKell…not what some god-like entity in your eyes has written…but an analysis by competent practitioners,that Big Al is paranoid of the media…no more of the he said she said bullsh!t
December 1st, 2009 at 3:22 pm
4evaRaider Says:
December 1st, 2009 at 3:18 pm
KoolKell…not what some god-like entity in your eyes has written…but an analysis by competent practitioners,that Big Al is paranoid of the media…no more of the he said she said bullsh!t
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Pull you head out of your arse, or don’t. The anti-Al Davis train is moving on.
December 1st, 2009 at 3:23 pm
if you cant produce this analysis KoolKell you will have proven beyond a shadow of a doubt that YOU are the lil cultist afraid of the written word.
NOW get to it son and produce the analysis that states Al Davis is paranoid of the media ITS ON YOU NOW BRAU
December 1st, 2009 at 3:23 pm
My work here has not been in vain.
December 1st, 2009 at 3:24 pm
train keepa rollin
December 1st, 2009 at 3:25 pm
you aint done no work foooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
show your proof
December 1st, 2009 at 3:27 pm
criketts
December 1st, 2009 at 3:27 pm
4eva
Pull you head out of your arse, or don’t. I really don’t care, since you people are clearly in the minority now.
My work here has not been in vain.
December 1st, 2009 at 3:31 pm
If I may ask you 1 question KoolKell it would be this SIR…Exactly who are you people???
Your shot Sir
December 1st, 2009 at 3:32 pm
4evaRaider Says:
December 1st, 2009 at 3:31 pm
If I may ask you 1 question KoolKell it would be this SIR…Exactly who are you people???
Your shot Sir
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You Al Davis Idolaters.
December 1st, 2009 at 3:34 pm
4evaRaider Says:
December 1st, 2009 at 3:31 pm
If I may ask you 1 question KoolKell it would be this SIR…Exactly who are you people???
Your shot Sir
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You Al Davis Idolaters, who would rather lose, than switch.
December 1st, 2009 at 3:36 pm
“You People” would rather lose year after year, be laughed at year after year, have the Raiders ridiculed year after year.
“You People” Davis Idolaters.
December 1st, 2009 at 3:37 pm
Go Warriors!!!
45 from Ellis, and thankfully he fouled out so he didn’t have to play another 48 minute game
December 1st, 2009 at 3:40 pm
“You people” sounds very prejudiced
December 1st, 2009 at 3:42 pm
Vegas Raider Says:
December 1st, 2009 at 3:40 pm
“You people” sounds very prejudiced
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Good, that’s exactly how I meant it.
December 1st, 2009 at 3:42 pm
At least my team won a championship…..the Las Vegas Loco’s baby!!!!
2009 UFL champions
December 1st, 2009 at 3:45 pm
The LOUSY RAIDERS RUN BY THE LOUSY AL DAVIS!! LOL
December 1st, 2009 at 3:47 pm
Still no line on the game this weekend.
My bet, if Ben plays, Steelers -16.5
If Dixon plays Steelers -13
Remember where you heard it.
December 1st, 2009 at 3:50 pm
Sooo… then KoolKell…You believe Al Davis has sown to reap losing???
You of “ALL PEOPLE” should understand that things are cyclical…in business…in real-estate…in pro-football…
Maybe some in here would like 2B laughed at year after year…who knows???
But in your heart you know Al Davis does NOT sew to lose.
People can laugh at me all they want,I dont care…But DA RAIDERS are a different thing.
I hate the losing as much if not more than you KoolKell…I’m 51 and been here sinse I was 6.
Just because a market goes south 4 awhile in no way means it is by design…YOU people should know this above all others,imo
Do things need 2 change KoolKell??? Yes some things do…
But I aint NEVER seen Big Al make a tackle or miss one either…
Your anger is mis-directed KoolKell,imo
December 1st, 2009 at 3:53 pm
4evaRaider
Like I said, face reality or don’t, that’s your problem.
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vault/article/magazine/MAG1008197/2/index.htm
December 1st, 2009 at 3:56 pm
talk is cheap,Clinical proof baby
December 1st, 2009 at 3:57 pm
many are the ways of the brain
December 1st, 2009 at 3:57 pm
It seems thousands of Loyal Raider Fans are waking up.
Have you seen the attendance figures lately?
December 1st, 2009 at 3:59 pm
Have you seen the attendance figures lately?
Have you seen that Billboard on 880?
Al says fuk you, we say fuk you back. Ok?
December 1st, 2009 at 4:00 pm
thankx 4da link anyway KoolKell
December 1st, 2009 at 4:00 pm
Let me see if I understand this: because the Raiders have not played well, drafted poorly, some of you would wish Al injury or death? You should seek aid from a psychiatrist.
December 1st, 2009 at 4:02 pm
What’s your problem with Raiders Fans standing up and demanding better?
December 1st, 2009 at 4:03 pm
KK, I too am upset about the current condition of the team, but remember, you are talking about another human being.
December 1st, 2009 at 4:04 pm
I signed the petition, and chipped in a $10 spot.
This Sraszewski kid has moxie, wouldn’t surprise me a bit if Al were to hire this kid to take Hanson’s old job. Or maybe have him work under Herrera, and Taylor..
December 1st, 2009 at 4:05 pm
CaptainBlack Says:
December 1st, 2009 at 4:03 pm\
KK, I too am upset about the current condition of the team, but remember, you are talking about another human being.
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I’m talking Raider performance as it relates to the Raiders General Manager/Owner.
December 1st, 2009 at 4:07 pm
Now you are talkin my language KoolKell!!!
Ok Big Al DID say it’s my team I will take them where ever I want.If I was or You was Big Al you or I would take the team,which is the only reason we are here,where ever we thought it would be “IN THE BEST INTREST OF DA TEAM”.I personally dont think Big Al ever said &^$#@ you…to da NATION…things happen,imo.Win some lose some in the draft…try and make it right through F/A and get on wid da business of the day.And I will tell you this KoolKell…
imo,you had the best seat in da house for 45 years…Do you really think Big Al would throw it all away?:??
December 1st, 2009 at 4:07 pm
Not a problem at all. Question boldy! But Al is a man, so please respect that. You may disagree with his philosophy, but the death talk should stop. I hope I am lucky enough to reach the age of 80, owning a great franchise, and having watched the greatest games ever played.
December 1st, 2009 at 4:08 pm
AL DAVIS has single handedly ruined this one proud franchise due to his stubborn ego and inability to evaluate talent, draft, and choose a GOOD Head Coach and GM/Personnel man.
Yep….Al DAVIS SUCKS!!
Thanks again old stubborn man for ruining this franchise and making it into laughing stock!
December 1st, 2009 at 4:08 pm
vegas raider Says:
December 1st, 2009 at 2:45 pm
Anyone in here send any dough to the website?
AS much as I stick up for Al in here at times, I like the gumption of this kid, so I’m sending $25 next week.
What about you MR? Can mommy spare some change for you to be part of something I’m sure you so desperately want to be part of?
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don’t encourage him…
’cause if Al leaves for any reason within the next five years… MR will claim he had a hand in it…
December 1st, 2009 at 4:08 pm
4evaRaider Says:
December 1st, 2009 at 4:07 pm
Now you are talkin my language KoolKell!!!
Ok Big Al DID say it’s my team I will take them where ever I want.If I was or You was Big Al you or I would take the team,which is the only reason we are here,where ever we thought it would be “IN THE BEST INTREST OF DA TEAM”.I personally dont think Big Al ever said &^$#@ you…to da NATION…things happen,imo.Win some lose some in the draft…try and make it right through F/A and get on wid da business of the day.And I will tell you this KoolKell…
imo,you had the best seat in da house for 45 years…Do you really think Big Al would throw it all away?:??
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December 1st, 2009 at 4:09 pm
Not a problem at all. Question boldy! But Al is a man, so please respect that. You may disagree with his philosophy, but the death talk should stop. I hope I am lucky enough to reach the age of 80, own a great franchise, and having watched the greatest games ever played.
December 1st, 2009 at 4:10 pm
CaptainBlack Says:
December 1st, 2009 at 4:07 pm
Not a problem at all. Question boldy! But Al is a man, so please respect that.
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Fuk Al Davis.
December 1st, 2009 at 4:10 pm
And all Raider fans know, we have had the best damn seats in the house for a very long time. We will get it back!
December 1st, 2009 at 4:11 pm
Davis has done many good deeds in his life. He has, for instance, offered financial assistance to former and current players, ailing former coaches and even journalists. And he has kept those gestures quiet. He was also the first NFL owner to hire a Hispanic and a black as head coach. But Davis’s abuses of power have become increasingly visible. For example, after practice it is customary for him to enter the equipment room, drop a towel on the floor and wait for an employee to clean his shoes. “I saw him make someone wipe his shoes in front of 75 people,” says Denver Broncos coach Mike Shanahan, who coached the Raiders in 1988 and was fired four games into the ‘89 season.
December 1st, 2009 at 4:11 pm
KK, you are a fool, and ignorant too.
December 1st, 2009 at 4:12 pm
I have been a loyal fan of the riders since i was 13 years old 1987 apparently according to some in here i would be laughed at if i called myself a longtime fan ?? WTF at least this guy is deciding to do something rather than sit idly by and just grumble. like old people tend to do.
December 1st, 2009 at 4:14 pm
KoolKell Says:
December 1st, 2009 at 4:10 pm
CaptainBlack Says:
December 1st, 2009 at 4:07 pm
Not a problem at all. Question boldy! But Al is a man, so please respect that.
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Fuk Al Davis.
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phuk big AL
December 1st, 2009 at 4:14 pm
KoolKell Says:
December 1st, 2009 at 4:11 pm
Davis has done many good deeds in his life. He has, for instance, offered financial assistance to former and current players, ailing former coaches and even journalists. And he has kept those gestures quiet. He was also the first NFL owner to hire a Hispanic and a black as head coach. But Davis’s abuses of power have become increasingly visible. For example, after practice it is customary for him to enter the equipment room, drop a towel on the floor and wait for an employee to clean his shoes. “I saw him make someone wipe his shoes in front of 75 people,” says Denver Broncos coach Mike Shanahan, who coached the Raiders in 1988 and was fired four games into the ‘89 season.
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i can top that…
i once farted and told MR to “paint that red”…
December 1st, 2009 at 4:14 pm
Sources who were part of the team say that in the late 1980s and early ’90s Davis ordered Raiders coaches to limit Allen’s playing time, often in favor of far less effective runners. Steve Smith and others say that Davis sometimes ordered that quarterbacks not throw the ball to Allen. “The other players had heard so much about this ‘family’ thing, but then we saw what happened to Marcus,” says Ronnie Lott, who played safety for the Raiders in 1991 and ‘92. “All of a sudden, the guy who was Mr. Raider wasn’t part of the family. We wondered, How can you not play your best player?”
Says Allen, who signed with the Kansas City Chiefs as a free agent in 1993, “I always felt we had the best personnel in football, but the best personnel wasn’t always on the field. We had to win a certain way or no way. Sometimes we sacrificed winning for a philosophy—or one man’s philosophy.”
December 1st, 2009 at 4:15 pm
KK, maybe he did this. I know a former Raider defensive lineman said he saw Al make an employee wipe mud off his shoe in Denver. Is that cool? No! Is it true? I was not there, and only two have alleged this.
December 1st, 2009 at 4:17 pm
MY GRANDMA USED TO BE ABLE TO MAKE SOME BAD AZZ QUILTS SHE MADE ME A KILLER RAIDER ONE WARM AS HELL AND ALL HAND MADE.
SHE COULD STILL TELL YOU EXACTLY HOW TO MAKE ONE AND ALL ABOUT MAKING THEM. BUT IF SHE TRIED SHE WOULD SCREW IT UP.
YOU KNOW WHY ??
BECAUSE SHE’S 80 YEARS OLD THATS WHY.
AL DAVIS CANNOT EVEN DRIVE A CAR LEGALY ANYMORE HE’S JUST TO OLD !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
HIS SON NEEDS TO DO AN INTERVENTION.
December 1st, 2009 at 4:18 pm
OK I WILL PUT IT IN A LANGUAGE WE CAN ALL UNDERSTAND
KoolKell do YOU THINK Big Al is losing on purpose D’OH
December 1st, 2009 at 4:20 pm
UP LOCOMOTIVE ENGINEER, you are another ignorant child. Just remember one thing, you are going to get old too. I hope you memory remains clear to remember what you said when young and healthy. Karma has a way of biting priicks in the ass.
December 1st, 2009 at 4:20 pm
I just donated! Good on this kid for going out and doing this. Will it help? Who knows…regardless, Al Davis needs to hear it in a very public way that what he’s been doing the last 20 years is UNACCEPTABLE!
What put me over the top? The fact that 7 years into this thing and this team is probably at the worst point as it ever has been.
There is nothing to suggest 2010 will get better.
I donated to the kid!
December 1st, 2009 at 4:20 pm
If those “storys” about “shoe-shine boyz” were true…Al Davis would have lost credibility long ago
Racist Pig…who-ever the shoe fitzzzz b!tch
December 1st, 2009 at 4:20 pm
4evaRaider Says:
December 1st, 2009 at 4:18 pm
OK I WILL PUT IT IN A LANGUAGE WE CAN ALL UNDERSTAND
KoolKell do YOU THINK Big Al is losing on purpose D’OH
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IT DOESNT FREAKIN MATTER, DOES IT?
see post 175 or read the damn article yourself
December 1st, 2009 at 4:21 pm
Loco, you have been a fan since ‘87? Go sit down, boy!
December 1st, 2009 at 4:21 pm
CaptainBlack Says:
December 1st, 2009 at 4:20 pm
UP LOCOMOTIVE ENGINEER, you are another ignorant child. Just remember one thing, you are going to get old too. I hope you memory remains clear to remember what you said when young and healthy. Karma has a way of biting priicks in the ass.
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It’s like my dad always tell’s me. I may be getting old but i come with a check LOL.
December 1st, 2009 at 4:22 pm
SnB…dont you have to go cheer 4 the Viqueens like you said B4
December 1st, 2009 at 4:22 pm
fuggin nothin but a bunch of PUNK sissy b!tches here
December 1st, 2009 at 4:23 pm
key-board cowboy giddy-up
December 1st, 2009 at 4:23 pm
CaptainBlack Says:
December 1st, 2009 at 4:21 pm
Loco, you have been a fan since ‘87? Go sit down, boy!
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BETTER THAN ‘67 AND “KNOCK KNOCK KNOCKING ON HEAVENS DOOR”
December 1st, 2009 at 4:24 pm
4evaRaider Says:
December 1st, 2009 at 4:20 pm
If those “storys” about “shoe-shine boyz” were true…Al Davis would have lost credibility long ago
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He’s the laughingsstock of the NFL, Hello, Hello. Geezus freakin cxrist.
That article was written in 1996. Sounds like it was written yesterday.
December 1st, 2009 at 4:24 pm
KoolKell I dont need no stinking articles son
December 1st, 2009 at 4:24 pm
UP LOCOMOTIVE ENGINEER It’s like my dad always tell’s me. I may be getting old but i come with a check LOL.
You father is wise. Too bad the fruit fell far from the tree.
December 1st, 2009 at 4:24 pm
ok…
cleaning the mud off his shoes thingy…
was Al physically unable to do it himself at the time???
if so, rather than track mud through the locker-room Al had an employee clean the mud off his shoes…
or…
it might have been a little brown noser doing it on his own initiative…
December 1st, 2009 at 4:25 pm
hbey what I know is…when you on top they ALL try and knock you down up 2 U if you wanna listen to the crapola
December 1st, 2009 at 4:27 pm
CaptainBlack Says:
December 1st, 2009 at 4:24 pm
UP LOCOMOTIVE ENGINEER It’s like my dad always tell’s me. I may be getting old but i come with a check LOL.
You father is wise. Too bad the fruit fell far from the tree.
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MY FATHER IS A GREAT MAN THIS IS TRUE.
WE ONLY DISAGREE ON THESE THREE THINGS IN THIS ORDER.
1 HE’S A BRONCO FAN
2 HE’S A CHRISTIAN
3 HE’S REPUBLICAN
December 1st, 2009 at 4:28 pm
Loco, you are wrong…again. Arrogance and ignorance is a lethal combination. Ask Dad for a loan and seek HELP. I’ll give you a buck
December 1st, 2009 at 4:28 pm
4evaRaider Says:
December 1st, 2009 at 4:22 pm
SnB…dont you have to go cheer 4 the Viqueens like you said B4
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Nope. I am a Raider fan. That’s why I donated to the kid.
I do watch more teams now than I used too. But my heart isn’t into it when I watch those other teams. Like last night, the Saints were looking sharp…but I didn’t really care about the outcome.
The last 7 years have been a disaster. There is no strategy, no direction. The root cause of all of this rests at the feet of Al Davis. The billboard is a great way for the fans voice to be heard. Will it make a tangible difference on Davis? Who knows. But I’ll say this…between the empty stadium and this prominent billboard…the message to Davis is as clear as ever. And it will probably embarrass him and the organization that things have come to this.
Good Show!
The money I used to donate to the site was part of the money I saved from not going to the Steeler and Cleveland Browns games this year that I planned to go too.
December 1st, 2009 at 4:28 pm
It does matter KoolKell
DO YOU THINK AL DAVIS REAPE TO LOSE YES OR NO KOOLKELL
December 1st, 2009 at 4:29 pm
Well, Loco, if your Dad had been a Raiders fan, he would be perfect.
December 1st, 2009 at 4:29 pm
4evaRaider Says:
December 1st, 2009 at 4:24 pm
KoolKell I dont need no stinking articles son
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I know, you’re in full denial. But the Raider Nation is waking up.
December 1st, 2009 at 4:29 pm
reaps…excuse me
December 1st, 2009 at 4:30 pm
4evaRaider Says:
December 1st, 2009 at 4:28 pm
It does matter KoolKell
DO YOU THINK AL DAVIS REAPE TO LOSE YES OR NO KOOLKELL
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What difference does it make?
December 1st, 2009 at 4:30 pm
I bet the guy was happy to wipe the mud of his shoes.
Probably was his best and highest paying job he ever had.
December 1st, 2009 at 4:31 pm
KoolKell…
I personally think it would be terrible 4 da NATION to lose a member as you.You been here through thick and thin
DO YOU THINK AL DAVIS WANTS 2 LOSE
December 1st, 2009 at 4:31 pm
That’s what the economy needs more of…shoe-shiners!!!
Come on Al Davis, gotta fuel the economy and create some jobs!!
December 1st, 2009 at 4:32 pm
State your stance in front of the NATION KK
December 1st, 2009 at 4:32 pm
I still respect AD. He’s done great things. Embittered employees and players say things when they are not wanted. But I think AD needs help in running the Raiders. He is still #1 but needs help. Another $10 to the billbord. LMFAO
December 1st, 2009 at 4:33 pm
Davis favors players whose most striking attribute is raw speed and obscure players whom he has discovered. Three examples are tight end Andrew Glover, a Raiders starter the past two seasons who caught only 10 passes as a senior at Grambling; defensive back Dan Land, a converted running back with excellent speed: and defensive back James Trapp, who won the NFL’s Fastest Man competition in 1995.
“Teams would watch our waiver wire,” five-time Pro Bowl wideout Tim Brown said last summer, “because the word around the league was that the Raiders were going to release football players and keep the guys Al likes.”
December 1st, 2009 at 4:34 pm
Who would have thought that all the anti-Davis posers on here would get shown up by a 23 year-old kid from Erie, PA named Staszewski?
LMAO
December 1st, 2009 at 4:35 pm
Why I donated to the billboard:
1. We have no QB going into 2010
2. 21 of 24 1st & 2nd round picks have busted (Howard being the latest bust)….although I think he can play
3. 10 Coaches in 20 years
4. Coaches with no authority
5. Best players not getting on the field
6. Shoddy scheme born of an earlier day….(everything and everyone has to adapt)
7. Horrible discipline (QB shows up out of shape, players partying before a preseason game, players trying to quit before season starts etc……
8. No signs of TANGIBLE improvement to show after 7 years of this
9. Stupid draft choices
10. Meddling with coaches, not letting the Head Coach pick his assistants (see Hanson)
And there is more…but this is getting old 4eva. The Raiders are in a perpetual offseason mode.
December 1st, 2009 at 4:35 pm
Go ask Marcus Allen whether Davis wants to win or not. #175
December 1st, 2009 at 4:35 pm
CaptainBlack Says:
December 1st, 2009 at 4:29 pm
Well, Loco, if your Dad had been a Raiders fan, he would be perfect.
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LOL IN A THOUSAND YEARS PEOPLE LIKE YOU WILL BE SITTING AROUND SAYING GOD IS COMING BACK FOR HIS PEOPLE SOON LOL
RELIGION WAS MADE UP BY SOME OF THE FIRST AND BEST CON MEN MADOFF HAS NOTHING ON THEM.
RELIGION IS A CRUTCH FOR WEAK MINDED PEOPLE.
I WILL NOT ARGUE WITH YOU ON THE REPUBLICAN ISSUE BECAUSE I AM MAINLY A DEMOCRAT DO TO MY WANTING TO SUPPORT UNION WORKERS AND THE RIGHT TO HAVE GOOD JOBS AT A FAIR WAGE. I AM ANTI ABORTION AND FOR GUN RIGHTS.
ANYWAY BACK TO THE ISSUE AT HAND. PHUK AL !!!!!!!
December 1st, 2009 at 4:36 pm
Vegas Raider Says:
December 1st, 2009 at 4:34 pm
Who would have thought that all the anti-Davis posers on here would get shown up by a 23 year-old kid from Erie, PA named Staszewski?
LMAO
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Whatever, laugh your stupid azz off. lol.
December 1st, 2009 at 4:37 pm
Teams would watch our waiver wire,” five-time Pro Bowl wideout Tim Brown said last summer, “because the word around the league was that the Raiders were going to release football players and keep the guys Al likes.”
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Of course there is no follow-up to report that this never happened.
December 1st, 2009 at 4:38 pm
I’m laughing too. With joy though.
Way to go kid.
December 1st, 2009 at 4:38 pm
Picture of the billboard. LOL!!!!!
http://www.messagetoal.com/billboard/info/
December 1st, 2009 at 4:40 pm
In 1988 Davis ordered Shanahan to play Willie Gault, a former Olympic sprinter, ahead of Brown. Shanahan refused because Brown’s superiority to Gault was so obvious in practice. “That was the biggest fight we ever had,” says Shanahan. “No one had ever stood up to him. Everyone there is afraid of him, so that’s the behavior he expects.”
December 1st, 2009 at 4:42 pm
All I want is for Davis to change what he’s doing. Let the doggone coach do his job.
Get pros to support decision making on the draft/roster
Modernize the scheme on both sides.
Is that too much to ask?
December 1st, 2009 at 4:43 pm
I apoligise SnB…as you can see the FRUSTATION is becoming almost unbearable…
I LOVE DA NATION AND ALL IT STANDS 4
December 1st, 2009 at 4:44 pm
Vegas Raider Says:
December 1st, 2009 at 4:37 pm
Teams would watch our waiver wire,” five-time Pro Bowl wideout Tim Brown said last summer, “because the word around the league was that the Raiders were going to release football players and keep the guys Al likes.”
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Of course there is no follow-up to report that this never happened.
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You can take a fool to the water, you can’t make him drink though.
December 1st, 2009 at 4:44 pm
Loco, blind obedience to a fanatic is dangerous. Now, back to the Raider.
December 1st, 2009 at 4:46 pm
Hey LV is #9 in biggest cities to sign petition.
I will give the kid credit and donate, but I ain’t signing the petition. Money talks BS walks.
December 1st, 2009 at 4:46 pm
Good Night Raider Nation,
Got to go before I donate more. There is homeless that need it more than a billboard.
December 1st, 2009 at 4:48 pm
But can a team thrive in a workplace filled with confusion and paranoia, one in which team officials, according to Moss, Jamie Williams and other former players, eavesdrop on interviews and locker room conversations and report back to Davis? “Players say the walls have ears,” Skrepenak says. “I think Al can find out information, because locker room talk always got back to the head coach.”
Nor are the coaches immune to Davis’s snooping. Shell says two or three unnamed assistants “backstabbed” him before his firing. “You’d go into staff meetings,” says one former assistant, “and the whole thing was orchestrated for people to turn on each other. And the more you discredited people to Al, the better off you were.” According to one former assistant, Davis would use film sessions to criticize play-calling. During reviews of plays that failed, Davis would solicit an opinion from a coach who wasn’t involved in the call, and that assistant would have no choice but to criticize his coworker.
December 1st, 2009 at 4:48 pm
KoolKell – A quote from a link you posted.
Says Marcus Allen, who signed with the Kansas City Chiefs as a free agent in 1993, “I always felt we had the best personnel in football, but the best personnel wasn’t always on the field. We had to win a certain way or no way. Sometimes we sacrificed winning for a philosophy—or one man’s philosophy.”
Even since 1993, nothing has changed.
December 1st, 2009 at 4:49 pm
much props to dude that got it going, i feel this movement is only going to grow. why critcize on what era u began being a raider fan, we’re all on the same boat. we’ve been incredibly bad the past 7yrs and no end in sight. support the movement.
December 1st, 2009 at 4:49 pm
4evaRaider Says:
December 1st, 2009 at 4:43 pm
I apoligise SnB…as you can see the FRUSTATION is becoming almost unbearable…
I LOVE DA NATION AND ALL IT STANDS 4
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I do too. But the Nation DOES NOT STAND FOR LOSING LIKE THIS! All anyone was looking for is improvement. I don’t think anyone was preaching playoffs. But the car is broken on the side of the road again. The billboard needed to go up. The fans have a RIGHT to be frustrated. Al Davis HAS to change the way he’s managing this club.
Just Win Baby!
December 1st, 2009 at 4:51 pm
But can a team thrive in a workplace filled with confusion and paranoia, one in which team officials, according to Moss, Jamie Williams and other former players, eavesdrop on interviews and locker room conversations and report back to Davis? “Players say the walls have ears,” Skrepenak says. “I think Al can find out information, because locker room talk always got back to the head coach
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Hey this article was very scathing, and I never read it until MR posted it last week.
But is this part really that unusual? Of those of us employeed on here, can you go and bash your boss and have no worries that it will trickle up?
I sure know there is snitches where I work and have to tread lightly.
December 1st, 2009 at 4:51 pm
24
That’s all anyone needs to know, right?
December 1st, 2009 at 4:51 pm
VEGAS RAIDER YOU BETTER NOT
December 1st, 2009 at 4:52 pm
Nor are the coaches immune to Davis’s snooping. Shell says two or three unnamed assistants “backstabbed” him before his firing. “You’d go into staff meetings,” says one former assistant, “and the whole thing was orchestrated for people to turn on each other. And the more you discredited people to Al, the better off you were.” According to one former assistant, Davis would use film sessions to criticize play-calling. During reviews of plays that failed, Davis would solicit an opinion from a coach who wasn’t involved in the call, and that assistant would have no choice but to criticize his coworker.
December 1st, 2009 at 4:52 pm
We can still win more games than we did last year, so while this whole season stinks, if we can get to 6 wins, than maybe in 4 years we can get to 10!!!
ARRGHHH…..who am I kidding
December 1st, 2009 at 4:53 pm
Instead of a bill-board…lets take the acquired monies and put it in the scouting dept.!!!
December 1st, 2009 at 4:54 pm
Come on Kell,…./;/////
no more he said she said bullsh!t
December 1st, 2009 at 4:54 pm
POST OF THE YEAR!!!!!
vegas raider Says:
December 1st, 2009 at 4:34 pm
Who would have thought that all the anti-Davis posers on here would get shown up by a 23 year-old kid from Erie, PA named Staszewski?
LMAO
December 1st, 2009 at 4:54 pm
Any chance the Colts and Saints both go unbeaten this year? Wouldn’t that be something?
December 1st, 2009 at 4:55 pm
I dont know what I meant by those symbles either lolo
December 1st, 2009 at 4:56 pm
I am 45 years old live in MA and have been a Raiders fan since I was an embryo. I have seen the good and the bad. I never thought I would ever see the day Raider fans are putting up billboards to ask Mr. Davis to step down. I think we need to remember this guy wants to win and yes he is part of the problem and must bear responsibility. This is the stuff cheap ass fans do not Raider fans and I have a hard time condoning it. I would think you could communicate how you feel directly to the Management of the Raiders. I stand by Mr. Davis and ask him to do the best that he can. If he needs help and it appears that he dose, hire someone quietly and soon to do that. It would be easy to dump on him now but I am going right to the end with this guy I think the Raiders will win again and I hope he is their to see it. Boston MA
December 1st, 2009 at 4:57 pm
KoolKell Says:
December 1st, 2009 at 4:51 pm
24
That’s all anyone needs to know, right?
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KoolKell… why didnt you add the word playa???
that was funny
December 1st, 2009 at 4:57 pm
4evaRaider Says:
December 1st, 2009 at 4:54 pm
Come on Kell,…./;/////
no more he said she said bullsh!t
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Dude, I don’t want to start calling names. But this is NOT he said she said. These are NAMED QUOTES from former players and coaches.
If you gonna act stupid………….
December 1st, 2009 at 5:00 pm
I don’t want to jinx it, but some may remember my betting on the Saints to win it all at halftime in week 2.
Got 11-1 odds at the time, and am kicking myself that I didn’t put more than my measly $20 bucks.
When the Saints get to the playoffs, they are going to be big favorites, so hedging potential galore!!!
December 1st, 2009 at 5:01 pm
“If you don’t do what he says to do, when he says to do it, you’re on the s—list,” Steve Smith says. Tight end Jamie Williams, who spent 1994, the last of his 12 NFL seasons, with the Raiders, likens Davis to an “evil emperor. There’s no one to challenge him because he’s surrounded by yes-men.”
December 1st, 2009 at 5:01 pm
ok maybe there is some truth but as you well know they B 2 sides 2 every whatever
December 1st, 2009 at 5:02 pm
raiderforlife Says:
December 1st, 2009 at 4:56 pm
I am 45 years old live in MA and have been a Raiders fan since I was an embryo. I have seen the good and the bad. I never thought I would ever see the day Raider fans are putting up billboards to ask Mr. Davis to step down. I think we need to remember this guy wants to win and yes he is part of the problem and must bear responsibility. This is the stuff cheap ass fans do not Raider fans and I have a hard time condoning it. I would think you could communicate how you feel directly to the Management of the Raiders. I stand by Mr. Davis and ask him to do the best that he can. If he needs help and it appears that he dose, hire someone quietly and soon to do that. It would be easy to dump on him now but I am going right to the end with this guy I think the Raiders will win again and I hope he is their to see it. Boston MA
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Be thankful that the Raiders still have a large and lively fanbase that cares about winning.
Apathy is far worse than anger
December 1st, 2009 at 5:02 pm
Speaking of the Undefeated New Orleans Saints, didn’t Sean Payton ask Al Davis to kiss his arse?
December 1st, 2009 at 5:03 pm
KoolKell Says:
December 1st, 2009 at 5:01 pm
“If you don’t do what he says to do, when he says to do it, you’re on the s—list,” Steve Smith says. Tight end Jamie Williams, who spent 1994, the last of his 12 NFL seasons, with the Raiders, likens Davis to an “evil emperor. There’s no one to challenge him because he’s surrounded by yes-men.”
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Come-on Kell…you do not need these “statements” 2 stand up
December 1st, 2009 at 5:03 pm
http://movies.yahoo.com/feature/movie-talk-war-machine-revealed.html#poster
This is so effin sweet!
December 1st, 2009 at 5:04 pm
Also, the fact this was organized by someone from Erie, PA and the petition signed by people across the USA/World shows that despite all the losing, incompetence and stupidity exhibited by the Raiders org, players, coaches….that the greatest fanbase in sports IS STILL ENGAGED with the team.
The complaints to Davis are so very valid. This isn’t stuff pulled out of thin air. The decisions have been horrible and the players inept.
A gentle reminder was displayed to Mr. Davis that he needs to change it up a little bit.
December 1st, 2009 at 5:05 pm
Vegas
Do yourself a favor, go listen to the President’s speech on Afghanistan. Enlighten yourself, learn something.
December 1st, 2009 at 5:05 pm
KoolKell – That would be a yes. Imagine. Sean Payton would have been hired by the Raiders and Drew Brees would have been signed by Payton either way. We would have been on fire and Payton would have been in position to get traded for 1st and 2nd round picks and $8 million dollars.
December 1st, 2009 at 5:15 pm
Me personally, I don’t think Al Davis wants to lose. He’s just incompetent.
But Marcus Allen wasn’t so sure:
Says Allen, who signed with the Kansas City Chiefs as a free agent in 1993, “I always felt we had the best personnel in football, but the best personnel wasn’t always on the field. We had to win a certain way or no way. Sometimes we sacrificed winning for a philosophy—or one man’s philosophy.”
December 1st, 2009 at 5:23 pm
Daniel Snyder (Redskins Owner) is the next Al Davis. He just doesn’t have a successful history.
December 1st, 2009 at 5:25 pm
I’m sure Al Davis will hire someone and tell everyone he hired that person to be his GM when in reality, that GM will be a fake figure to shut everyone up and take down the billboard. Al Davis will still be making the decisions.
December 1st, 2009 at 5:41 pm
KoolKell Says:
December 1st, 2009 at 5:05 pm
Vegas
Do yourself a favor, go listen to the President’s speech on Afghanistan. Enlighten yourself, learn something.
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Got it on DVR and about to tune in. Can’t wait to hear him go back on more campaign promises.
Where’s code pink when you really need them?
December 1st, 2009 at 5:42 pm
24 Says:
December 1st, 2009 at 5:25 pm
I’m sure Al Davis will hire someone and tell everyone he hired that person to be his GM when in reality, that GM will be a fake figure to shut everyone up and take down the billboard. Al Davis will still be making the decisions.
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That scenario won’t be credible. imo. There will have to be specific public language that let’s everybody know, that the deal is real. Or the blackouts will continue.
Blackouts are the leverage.
December 1st, 2009 at 5:45 pm
I love Marcus allen…I hate Marcus Allen
December 1st, 2009 at 5:46 pm
divided by 32 4 all those that refuse 2 believe
December 1st, 2009 at 5:47 pm
Kool,
What’s with this “learn something” crap?
I will challenge you to a Jeopardy duel any day of the week partner
December 1st, 2009 at 6:00 pm
Now lets go be competitive
December 1st, 2009 at 6:01 pm
or who-ever
December 1st, 2009 at 6:02 pm
Dakota , Did Al really say that?
December 1st, 2009 at 6:10 pm
I once scored 19 correct answers in jeopardy and the double jep question
so there
December 1st, 2009 at 6:18 pm
Vegas Raider said :
I have always been against the “nation collective” and all that stuff, but I got to give this kid his props and do my part.
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My man, I started the Nation Collective. We got as far as organizing a law firm owned by a long time raider fan, an accounting firm owned by a raider fan, and had a lot of people ready to help us begin a Trust, Worldwide, to raise funds in order to buy our team; owned by the Trust, the fans themselves. We had people willing to begin with thousands, not just a few bucks here and there.
The brainstorming was going very well, and with the belief and focus we all had we were sure we could raise the mountain of necessary money.
The key was that at the end of the day, we all knew that Al would never, ever sell; and that our effort would successful only in the event that we created a major wave in the NFL and Raider Nation, perhaps wake Mr. Davis up. That, and the consistent losing attitude on the team that is wearing upon all of us fans, was enough for us to let that plan just fizzle and accept that Davis isn’t going anywhere, and that even after he passes this situation could stay the same.
I am glad you are donating money to the guy’s billboard cause, as will I. Anything that helps put the reality and the necessity of the situation out there is a plus.
And props to the 702, as I was born and raised there.
December 1st, 2009 at 6:40 pm
Raider4Life,
First off, LV baby!! Been here all 6 years of my post-collegiate life.
Now….maybe the reason I was so against the “Nation Collective” was because I didn’t know much about it. Seemed like an internet thing, nothing more. Plus this was over a year ago, while Al is no doubt getting worse yearly, when the previous year that would never seem possible. While I consider myself no Al puppet, some people, IMO, go WAY off the deep end with their hatred, and I try to keep people somewhat in line, so to speak. These coaches and players seem to have a lot of built-in excuses, and it seems way to convenient for me. But it all comes down to the fact, Al stinks at his job, and we all know it.
I give you credit for the work behind the scene’s to try to make something happen, but hats off to Mr.Jared Staszewski. I mean the dude got a frkn billboard a half a mile from the stadium. That is just damn impressive!! Too impressive to ignore, but if he were a 40 year old guy, I honestly wouldn’t consider donating. The fact the guy is 23 and made this happen, makes me feel better giving him $20 than some bum on the corner. That’s just the way I’m wired.
We have to keep the faith, because that’s what fans do, and Raider Nation is the best fan base in the world. I will be rooting the Raiders on feverishly this weekend, and when we most likely lose, it will wear on me, just like you said.
Raider On
December 1st, 2009 at 6:52 pm
raiderforlife Says:
December 1st, 2009 at 4:56 pm
I am 45 years old live in MA and have been a Raiders fan since I was an embryo. I have seen the good and the bad. I never thought I would ever see the day Raider fans are putting up billboards to ask Mr. Davis to step down. I think we need to remember this guy wants to win and yes he is part of the problem and must bear responsibility. This is the stuff cheap ass fans do not Raider fans and I have a hard time condoning it. I would think you could communicate how you feel directly to the Management of the Raiders. I stand by Mr. Davis and ask him to do the best that he can. If he needs help and it appears that he dose, hire someone quietly and soon to do that. It would be easy to dump on him now but I am going right to the end with this guy I think the Raiders will win again and I hope he is their to see it. Boston MA
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Ahhh…the “long distance” fan. The “I don’t pay couple of thousand a year for season tickets, and then feel like I got screwed, again” fan.
Obviously you don’t have a good view of what’s going in from your neck of the woods. Yeah, “all he needs is a GM”..EXCEPT HE’S THE GM, AND EVERYONE WANTS HIM TO TURN THE JOB OVER TO SOMEONE WHO KNOWS WHAT THEY’RE DOING.”
People who spend their hard earned money to invest in a team, the experience, giving them their loyalty, feel short changed leaving the stadium each week, and are tired of it.
The one guy who’s responsible for the mess is the guy you state you’ll “follow to the end”.
Here’s reality.
IF THE RAIDERS WERE ON THE STOCK MARKET, and Al was the CEO? He would have been ousted a LONG TIME AGO, because he is devalueing the team, each and every year. He isn’t making money, he’s losing money. He isn’t making the organization better, he’s holding it back. He isn’t making investers (ticket buyers, suite buyers) confident about investing in the product, and they’re turning away in droves.
You need to get a clue, and get off of Al’s sac.
December 1st, 2009 at 6:53 pm
Hey Raider Bong back up and read ALL post…all fanzzz are GREAT,imo
December 1st, 2009 at 6:54 pm
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
the long distance fan
December 1st, 2009 at 6:55 pm
Raider Bong Says:
December 1st, 2009 at 6:51 pm
hey 4 eva
why are u knockin this dude for being a raider fan for 16 years? considering the guy is only 22, those 16 years means hes been a Raider since he was 6.
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Don’t mind 4eva.
He’s kind of like the board motley fool.
He wakes up, and rushes TO THIS BOARD, by 7 am…EVERY DAY. And dude? He sits here..ALL DAY LONG..EACH AND EVERY DAY..just refreshing, posting “going to store now”..”heating up macaroni and cheese now”..while adding in ignorant crap.
Just pat him on the head, on occasion, and it makes him feel “special”.
December 1st, 2009 at 7:26 pm
4evaRaider
You’re embarrassing yourself. You’ve got nothing to say.
Your moniker became a joke today.
Who will you be tomorrow?
December 1st, 2009 at 7:38 pm
I think Jerry’s saving up to deliver us a zinger!!
December 1st, 2009 at 7:44 pm
over/under on Jerry’s next thread
8:21 pm
December 1st, 2009 at 7:44 pm
[...] A fan group has bought a billboard in Oakland asking Raiders owner Al Davis to step down from his leadership perch. Will it work? Very unlikely, but it is interesting that fans have taken this step. Thanks to the many readers who alerted me of this development. [...]
December 1st, 2009 at 7:56 pm
I am so proud of the guy that did this. God bless him.
Now if everyone would just stop going to the games, it might work.
December 1st, 2009 at 8:01 pm
1 Sellout, 7 Blackouts.
Blackouts cannot be ignored, even by Al Davis.
December 1st, 2009 at 8:09 pm
hire maarc trastman!1. hire charlie weiss . at least well have an offense:)
December 1st, 2009 at 8:12 pm
youve got 2 put 2gether a staff. a strong staff. i say marc trestman as head coach. hes kikk arse! and charlie weiss as o – coordinator. tim brown as receivers coach! lets do this! its time 4 a new era. fukk a g.m. just need a strong staff
December 1st, 2009 at 8:13 pm
This is a HUGE blow to the old mans ego!
In addition I bet priesttj cries himself to sleep tonight. Unless he tries to hacksaw that sign down in the cover darkness.
December 1st, 2009 at 8:14 pm
That would be the first.
# vegas raider Says:
December 1st, 2009 at 7:38 pm
I think Jerry’s saving up to deliver us a zinger!!
December 1st, 2009 at 8:18 pm
Heckuva job Jared!
Thumbs up to you brotha!
December 1st, 2009 at 8:18 pm
Sounds exactly like our very own village idiot.
priesttj
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# RaiderRockstar Says:
December 1st, 2009 at 11:03 am
” JaMarcus Russell is a good quarterback. Get over it! ”
-Al Davis
December 1st, 2009 at 8:20 pm
Here’s reality.
IF THE RAIDERS WERE ON THE STOCK MARKET, and Al was the CEO? He would have been ousted a LONG TIME AGO, because he is devalueing the team, each and every year. He isn’t making money, he’s losing money. He isn’t making the organization better, he’s holding it back. He isn’t making investers (ticket buyers, suite buyers) confident about investing in the product, and they’re turning away in droves.
^^^^^^^^^Exactly!
December 1st, 2009 at 8:22 pm
# SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
December 1st, 2009 at 4:49 pm
4evaRaider Says:
December 1st, 2009 at 4:43 pm
I apoligise SnB…as you can see the FRUSTATION is becoming almost unbearable…
I LOVE DA NATION AND ALL IT STANDS 4
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I do too. But the Nation DOES NOT STAND FOR LOSING LIKE THIS! All anyone was looking for is improvement. I don’t think anyone was preaching playoffs. But the car is broken on the side of the road again. The billboard needed to go up. The fans have a RIGHT to be frustrated. Al Davis HAS to change the way he’s managing this club.
^^^^^^^^Yep!
December 1st, 2009 at 8:32 pm
Priest thinks everyone is an idiot so what he thinks really doesn’t matter. Hes as stubborn as Al Davis. Priests soul probably needs Al Davis for him to stay alive so he does everything in his power to protect him. I don’t know.
December 1st, 2009 at 8:37 pm
KoolKell Says:
December 1st, 2009 at 7:26 pm
4evaRaider
You’re embarrassing yourself. You’ve got nothing to say.
Your moniker became a joke today.
Who will you be tomorrow?”
KK
4eva is a good dude. Sorry that you guys didn’t agree but that doesn’t make him a joke, it just makes him honest. We must all agree that the losing has become unbearable. Some people deal with it differently than others. No harm no foul.
How was your holiday btw, besides that turkey served up in Dallas?
December 1st, 2009 at 8:43 pm
So many people talk a big game but this kid Jared Staszewski of Erie, Pennsylvania has some stones and initiative. He deserves respect and he has earned mine, as well as respect for all of the others involved in this project. I don’t know if it will do any good, but props to these folks are in order.
December 1st, 2009 at 8:55 pm
4eva
4eva 
4eva 
BTW
bhp ♥ al davis
bhp ♥ jamarcuss russell
bhp ♥ LOSING
December 1st, 2009 at 9:03 pm
Evening All
I think the sign was very courteous and graceful. Polite but to the point. Al should feel touched.
He should be grateful fans are endeared to his beloved Raiders. IMO, a very nice way of telling Al as fans we are fed up with this excutiating garbage, the painful product, the firings, the over payed hype, the toxic mess he has put field for the last seven years and this is a desperate cry for help. Give this fellow credit. It’s about time someone has made a desperate attempt to reach Al.
Really Al, you should feel honored. Hire this guy. Find a spot for him. Kind of like how Stienbrenner hired George Costanza.
December 1st, 2009 at 9:13 pm
Al’s got roids older then this kid.
December 1st, 2009 at 9:18 pm
# Nnamdi21 Says:
December 1st, 2009 at 9:13 pm
Al’s got roids older then this kid.
Ste
or Hem 
December 1st, 2009 at 9:20 pm
I did my part by signing the petition. Now it’s time to donate to a good cause!!
December 1st, 2009 at 9:36 pm
CBS Eyewitness News at 6 PM coverage of the sign was longer than the sportscast.
And the kid got some air time as well.
I would say the message is being heard, already, and it’s only the beginning.
December 1st, 2009 at 9:41 pm
I’m surprised PFT.com hasn’t broadcasted the message yet.
December 1st, 2009 at 9:51 pm
Al owns a business, and he has a product called the Raiders. The fans are ( customers), and they have the power to boy-cut that product if it’s not up to their standards. That will force the Business to change their product to satisfy the customers, or lose revenue and be forced out of business.
December 1st, 2009 at 10:26 pm
24, speak when you’re skoken to you little punk, you don’t know me r what I think think. Don’t speak for me sissy speak for yourself. Say whatever you think and leave me out of your discusion unless I’m in it.
Understand you little punk, everytime I come in here one of you lames have got something to say about me. Keep me outta your damn mouth Get it!!
December 1st, 2009 at 10:30 pm
I signed the petition as well. After watching the Saints play Monday Night, I see how far we are behind.
December 1st, 2009 at 10:38 pm
Raider O, this GM stuff is up to personal opinion. Everyones opinion of the kind of GM he should or would hire will differ greatly. Everyones opinion as to the HC he hires will differ greatly from person to person.
He knows he cannpot satisfy every fan and nor will he try. He will hire a GM when and if he gets ready to……….period
You can vote with your dollar. Mr Davis is like a father with children and someone is trying to tell him how to raise his own children. I know how I would take that and it wouldn’t be favorable. he knows what he wants to do and when he wants to do it. It’s his family we are simply onlookers telling him what to do and we don’t have any knowledge as to the ongoings of that family. Yet we want force our opinion on it as if we’re their caretakers.
It’s like when you were growing up and your griends would tell you what to think about your parents. They think their telling you what’s good for you but they totally ignorant as what really is going on. If you listen then it’s on you. But my father would ever let a friend of mine tell him how to raise me would yours?
December 1st, 2009 at 10:42 pm
Bunch of fans that don’t understand what’s really going on in this organization will never get Mr Davis to do something until he feels it’s the best thing to do………..period
So keep pissing in the wind.
December 1st, 2009 at 10:42 pm
# Raider O Says:
December 1st, 2009 at 9:51 pm
Al owns a business, and he has a product called the Raiders. The fans are ( customers), and they have the power to boy-cut that product if it’s not up to their standards. That will force the Business to change their product to satisfy the customers, or lose revenue and be forced out of business.
^^^^^^^Exactly…..but the stubborn old man looney AL is not your normal business man.
He doesn’t care about the consumers and whether they buy his crap product. It’s ALL about him and him alone.
His warped egocentric mentality is the problem!
December 1st, 2009 at 10:44 pm
# priesttj Says:
December 1st, 2009 at 10:26 pm
24, speak when you’re skoken to you little punk, you don’t know me r what I think think. Don’t speak for me sissy speak for yourself. Say whatever you think and leave me out of your discusion unless I’m in it.
Understand you little punk, everytime I come in here one of you lames have got something to say about me. Keep me outta your damn mouth Get it!!
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It’s probably because you have your head so far up your ass, it’s hard not to.
See, no one believes you.
You’re basically full of crap.
You’re about as involved with Al as I am, or anyone on this site is with the space program…we’re not.
Nor are you.
Oh..I almost forgot…PERIOD. (yes, LMFAO at your silly little PERIOD, which obviously makes you feel like it’s now official, or at least makes you feel like it makes sense..to someone..somewhere.)
Now..shut up before you make yourself look even more pathetic…
Oh..damn…too late.
never mind.
December 2nd, 2009 at 5:48 am
In reading through all of the posts – there is a split – we either believe that Al won’t notice – or Al *will* notice. Here’s my take: It will not be “one thing” that gets Al to change. It will be a collection of events. For instance: The Billboard, the empty stadium, a drop in concession receipts (for those of us that go to the game have you ever seen beer lines so short?), a drop in jersey sales etc., all of these things ultimately hit Al in the wallet, and that is the most influential thing of all. I’ve been a season ticket holder for a long time – and I can’t help but go to the games – every year I get my hopes up and for the last 7 years those hopes have been dashed. However, I refuse to buy concessions at the game, and I take BART to the game. That way I’m not putting any additional money in Al’s pocket.
I guess in my own way I’m a crack addict (addicted to the Raiders), but I don’t necessarily want to give my crappy dealer (Al) any additional $$$. The empty seats and general revolt will catch his attention.
December 2nd, 2009 at 6:34 am
priesttj Says:
December 1st, 2009 at 10:38 pm
Raider O, this GM stuff is up to personal opinion. Everyones opinion of the kind of GM he should or would hire will differ greatly. Everyones opinion as to the HC he hires will differ greatly from person to person.
He knows he cannpot satisfy every fan and nor will he try. He will hire a GM when and if he gets ready to……….period
You can vote with your dollar. Mr Davis is like a father with children and someone is trying to tell him how to raise his own children. I know how I would take that and it wouldn’t be favorable.
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I think this is a very good gesture that was done with the billboard. If I had a friend and all his kids were drop-outs and in jail on drugs or prostitutes I’d probably try to step in and help him too. Even if he thought he was doing the perfect job….
December 2nd, 2009 at 8:42 am
Al doesn’t give a rat azz about a billboard. He also doesn’t care about winning. He ONLY cares about doing things his way. He is an old, stubbon, selfish idiot who would much rather keep losing than to win with someone like Gruden calling the shots. Only way Al give up any control is by death. Went from being the winning team in professional sports to the biggest joke. Thanks AL. JUST DIE BABY!!!!!!!!!!!!
December 2nd, 2009 at 12:22 pm
He’ll rightfully point to two names: Bruce Allen. Ron Wolf. He was involved when both were there. And he’ll stay involved. The billboard’s message ignores history. It’s not that Al should leave, it’s that he shouldn’t be doing this ALONE. He’s been most successful when he’s had someone else.
December 2nd, 2009 at 2:05 pm
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December 2nd, 2009 at 8:01 pm
# 4evaRaider Says:
December 1st, 2009 at 11:14 am
A loyal fan sinse when??? 1993 you say hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
the dude is only 22 years old, he was 6 years old in 1993. congratulations for being dumb and old.
December 3rd, 2009 at 9:37 am
Silly to put sign to up root Al Davis. Do U honestly think the NFL Favors the Ideal of superseding the decisions of the NFL owners with regards the coach and player recruitment? Laughable!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!