Scott to start at WLB, Howard at SLB
By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Thursday, December 3rd, 2009 at 3:17 pm in Oakland Raiders.
News and notes from the Raiders’ practice facility Thursday as they prepare to face the Steelers in Pittsburgh:
– Coach Tom Cable said the Raiders would start Trevor Scott at weak side linebacker and Thomas Howard at strong side linebacker against Pittsburgh, with the latter displacing Sam Williams.
“It will give us a chance to have what we want in terms of coverage and what we want vs. the run,” Cable said.
Scott had an encouraging debut as a hybrid linebacker/defensive end against Dallas, recording two sacks as a pass rusher and looking fast and active despite his lack of experience in coverage.
During the open locker room session, Scott had been reluctant to give anything away, saying, “I guess we’ll see Sunday” when asked if he was starting.
In drills before team sessions started, Scott was working with linebackers coach Mike Haluchak on footwork and fundamentals.
Scott said he enjoys playing linebacker, allowing he’d enjoy just about anything that helped him get on the field more often.
“I like it a lot. I felt pretty natural in it,” Scott said. “I’m going to continue to grow and get better.”
Noting that Ben Roethlisberger has a reputation for holding on to the ball until receivers come clear, Scott is looking for a sack opportunity or two after getting a pair of sacks against Dallas.
– Sounds as if Cable is hoping JaMarcus Russell is paying close attention to Roethlisberger when the Steelers have the ball, given their similar builds and strengths.
“As you study different guys, I would think Ben is most like JaMarcus in terms of his physical stature,” Cable said.
– No change in terms of injured players. Defensive end Greg Ellis is still not practicing, make it more likely Matt Shaughnessy will start against Pittsburgh. Running back Justin Fargas (stinger) and lineabacker Isaiah Ekejiuba (knee) will both play.
Linebacker David Nixon was ill and sent home. Wide receiver Nick Miller (tibia fracture) did not practice and have missed three quarters of the season following the Steelers game.
– Cable won’t divulge a starter at running back, saying the team needed the “physicalness” of Fargas, the “heavy physicalness” of Michael Bush and the speed of Darren McFadden, with the starter determined by the offensive package that’s on the field for the first series.
– Sounds like the best-case scenario for former Steeler Gary Russell as a kickoff returner is something along the lines of David Dunn in 2000 _ a big, no-nonsense returner who looks to break a few tackles and get as far as he can with few illusions about going the distance.
“He can give us somebody who can handle the football and, hopefully, can bulldog 25 to 30, 35 yards,” special teams coordinator John Fassel said. “ I don’t consider him a home-run threat, but I consider him somebody that will just hit it where a return is supposed to be hit and, hopefully, get us better field position then we’ve gotten, which hasn’t been good.”
– Fassel think he’s seen an improvement in the ballhandling of punt returner Johnnie Lee Higgins and is hopeful for a nice return to restore his confidence.
“With returners, and particularly Johnnie, it’s confidence and momentum,” Fassel said. “You know, until Week 9 last year we really only had a couple of 10, 15 yard returns. Then he gashed one against Miami and you could see his confidence grow.”
– Fassel said one of the Raiders problems on returns has been players getting in the right position to block but not actually making and finishing the block.
Which sounds only slightly more ridiculous than a quarterback spotting an open receiver but not actually making the pass.
– With 104.3 yards per game rushing, ranked 20th in the NFL, the Raiders are as low as they’ve been in that department since 2006, when they were 29th in rushing at 94.9 yards per game and scored five touchdownson the ground. They have five rushing touchdowns so far this season.
– Sounds as if Steelers coach Mike Tomlin would be comfortable with Dennis Dixon as the backup for Roethlisberger next season. Dixon, who went to high school in San Leandro a stone’s throw from the Coliseum, was the No. 3 quarterback thrust into action as a starter against Baltimore after Roethlisberger (concussion) and backup Charlie Batch (wrist) were ruled out.
Dixon’s 24-yard touchdown run put the Steelers up 17-14, only to have the Ravens tie the score and win it in overtime. Dixon threw an overtime interception against a zone blitz to retreating linebacker Paul Kruger to set up the Ravens’ winning field goal.
“Dennis is a talented guy. Everybody is aware of his skill set and what he did at the University of Oregon. He’s been a pleasure to coach here. He’s a young professional guy. He has a desire to get better,” Tomlin said. “It’s not too big for him. I think he proved that. He showed great poise and presence playing on the road in a hostile environment against a good defense. He’s just going to continue to get better. His best days are ahead of him. That was just a step in the process.”
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December 3rd, 2009 at 3:20 pm
What an adjustment! Cable for coach of the year!!!!!
lmao
December 3rd, 2009 at 3:25 pm
JLH…has to be right up there with McFadden, Russell and DHB as biggest disappointments of 2009.
December 3rd, 2009 at 3:34 pm
Jerry Mac….
I did not know that Jim Fassel had a daughter coaching in the NFL.
“Fassel think she’s seen an improvement…..”
I know it’s a typo, but jeez man Jerry, you are getting PAID to write. Step your game up!
December 3rd, 2009 at 3:36 pm
http://en.montrealalouettes.com/page/jim-popp
If Trestman wants to come he’ll most likely want Popp along as his GM PP
December 3rd, 2009 at 3:37 pm
Why do they do stupid stuff like this. He s a d linemen not linebacker. Al drafts a tweener and doesnt play 3-4 defense. And when the guy has problems playing end in 4-3 ? The only thing I wanna hear is what we arent gona hear just yet. A gm and john gruden as coach for 10 years
December 3rd, 2009 at 3:39 pm
# Dakota Says:
December 3rd, 2009 at 3:25 pm
JLH…has to be right up there with McFadden, Russell and DHB as biggest disappointments of 2009.
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Yup – agreed. And I’d almost throw Morrison & Howard in there as well.
What the hell – those 2 were two of the most promising up-and-coming young backers in the league.
December 3rd, 2009 at 3:41 pm
Que Says:
December 3rd, 2009 at 3:37 pm
Why do they do stupid stuff like this. He s a d linemen not linebacker. Al drafts a tweener and doesnt play 3-4 defense.
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I’m a little hesitant about this too. Remember the Grant Irons/Tyler Brayton experiment in 2006?
I hope this doesn’t result in the same disaster.
Let’s hope Scott is a good enough natural athlete to make it work.
December 3rd, 2009 at 3:41 pm
Scott can’t be worse in coverage than Williams.
He looked like the Tin man chasing Witten
December 3rd, 2009 at 3:42 pm
howard would be a mistake to lose but morrison , I know he grew up a raiderfan but dude you cant get off of the offensive linemen s block and even worse he never stays home a wait to get the ball. we should have taken USC linebackers last draft
December 3rd, 2009 at 3:44 pm
I think if we draft a big’ol dirty, rough-n-tumble kind of middle linebacker, that Howard & Morrision would do well on the outsides. It’s the middle of our defense that’s consistently gashed. Teams rarely have success running outside on us.
December 3rd, 2009 at 3:45 pm
Maybe Al will draft Taylor Mays with the #7 pick in the draft next springs and then turn him into a LB?
Speed kills baby!
December 3rd, 2009 at 3:46 pm
# Larz Says:
December 3rd, 2009 at 3:41 pm
Scott can’t be worse in coverage than Williams.
He looked like the Tin man chasing Witten
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I like Williams – he seems like a good guy, but, as for his football skills, you couldn’t have described that any better.
That’s exactly what he resembled.
December 3rd, 2009 at 3:46 pm
I am amazed that through personell changes we still get shredded on big running plays every game.
Didn’t Cable do two days of walk throughs…and we still can’t manage gaps.
December 3rd, 2009 at 3:48 pm
I am at a loss our LBs are decimated.
Loosing Brown and Alston really sets us back.
By years end Mike Mitchell will be playing LB
December 3rd, 2009 at 3:48 pm
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December 3rd, 2009 at 3:49 pm
Exactly all that talk about walking through while real teams were smashing each other duringthe heat of summer. Im sure gruden wouldnt have that
December 3rd, 2009 at 3:50 pm
Maybe a true NT and a switch to more 3-4 looks is a faster fix.
I personally think formation means little if you don’t have the studs.
We don’t
December 3rd, 2009 at 3:50 pm
Yes, Cable’s patty-cake training camp, I almost forgot about that….boy, what great results…we really have been fundamentally sound!
If Cable is back next year maybe he will have the players meditate for one full week of camp so that they might be able to concentrate on their jobs better? Then he will tell us we are very close to breaking through baby!
December 3rd, 2009 at 3:50 pm
My biggest problem with the Raiders defense of the past decade or so is that we seem to refuse doing the obvious – which is to completely take out the other team’s best player and make the guys with lesser talent beat us.
We see it year after year.
Tony Gonzales, Randy Moss, Witten, L. Tomlinson, etc., etc.
I mean, make the damned game a little more simple. Don’t get beat by the other team’s obvious strengths. Do what you have to do to eliminate that part of their game. And if they still beat you, then kudos to them.
But it seems like we act like we’re gonna go out there and stop EVERY element of the other team and the result is usually really ugly, with no single player really being taken out of the game.
December 3rd, 2009 at 3:53 pm
# Larz Says:
December 3rd, 2009 at 3:48 pm
By years end Mike Mitchell will be playing LB
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You know what? That’s actually not a bad idea at all. That may be the only way that kid ends up on the field with Branch & Huff playing as well as they are.
Let’s put 15-20 pounds on him and he may be a legit hitter at the LB spot.
December 3rd, 2009 at 3:55 pm
SnS I agree.
Our poor DBs have to cover all day.
We need to bring pressure, but if all you play is man to man there is a chance we ge burned everytime.
You have to zone up more and give the DBs a rest.
Christ they have to run stop on running plays too.
They must be gassed by the fourth qrtr.
December 3rd, 2009 at 3:55 pm
This Trevor Scott to LB thing, reminds me of the Tyler Brayton fiasco.
December 3rd, 2009 at 3:55 pm
Man I was telling a friend of mine All you should ask your team one the seasons a loss is make the other team pay the price. No matter what, thats how the raiders used to be. Only people payingthe price is us fans and i ve been a fan since 1980. I just keep waiting for Al s day of realization
December 3rd, 2009 at 3:56 pm
gotta roll nation.
Hope the game is close enough to watch.
Stay safe all.
December 3rd, 2009 at 4:00 pm
Dakota…#11
I’m already on record, Taylor Mays will be the pick. Live it, learn it, love it!!
December 3rd, 2009 at 4:02 pm
If you haven’t seen Tiger’s x-mas card yet, here it is:
http://twitpic.com/rxogk
December 3rd, 2009 at 4:06 pm
siver-n-Smac
I think the one advantage Scott has over Brayton in trying to make the transition to OLB, is Scott seems like he can really run. I’ve seen him make some nice plays way down field on special teams. Brayton, who I really liked as a base end looked too big and lumbering trying to play out in space at lb.Totally out of position.
December 3rd, 2009 at 4:10 pm
Buckey:
Yeah, I think you’re right. Let’s hope that it plays out that way.
Like someone already said, Scott can’t be worse than Williams at this point.
December 3rd, 2009 at 4:13 pm
Raider Income(profit)
2008-$27 mil
2007-$46 mil
2006-$ 9 mil
2005-$ 8 mil
2004-$26 mil
2003-$16 mil
2002-$15 mil
2001-$ 3 mil
2000-$10 mil
1999-$17 mil
Do I see a profitable pattern here. This is after ALL expenses were deducted including players.
December 3rd, 2009 at 4:16 pm
Exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:
December 3rd, 2009 at 4:13 pm
Raider Income(profit)
2008-$27 mil
2007-$46 mil
2006-$ 9 mil
2005-$ 8 mil
2004-$26 mil
2003-$16 mil
2002-$15 mil
2001-$ 3 mil
2000-$10 mil
1999-$17 mil
Do I see a profitable pattern here. This is after ALL expenses were deducted including players.
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Damn ExLa,
You’re obviously out of your depth. INCOME IS NOT PROFIT.
Do you have a freakin link?
December 3rd, 2009 at 4:16 pm
I have said from the very beginning that I thought Thomas Howard should have started at the Strong Side position when he was first drafted…it took this long? Seriously…Kirk Morrison at Weak, Danny Clark at Middle and Thomas Howard at Strong back when he was drafted.
December 3rd, 2009 at 4:16 pm
# KoolKell Says:
December 3rd, 2009 at 3:55 pm
This Trevor Scott to LB thing, reminds me of the Tyler Brayton fiasco.
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I don’t remember Tyler Brayton getting 2 sacks in ANY game….especially not the first game he played LB!
December 3rd, 2009 at 4:19 pm
Brayton had trouble getting sacks as a DE altogether. He was solid against the run at least.
December 3rd, 2009 at 4:21 pm
As far as Mike Mitchell, I’m all for whatever it takes to get this kid on the field more. Whether it’s moving him to OLB, or playing more big nickel, and putting him up as an in the box safety. Hell, he’s not much smaller than Alston, anyway. Didn’t Jerry say Alston bulked up to 235 this offseason. MM is listed at 220. This soft azz Raider D needs his physicality. Badly.
December 3rd, 2009 at 4:22 pm
http://www.fannation.com/truth_and_rumors/view/117194-nfls-least-valuable-franchise-is?cnn=yes
Forbes magazine, famous for its rich lists, just came out with its evaluations of the 32 NFL teams. No surprise, Jerry Jones’ Dallas Cowboys tops the list with a current value of $1.65 billion.
Only two NFL teams are unprofitable: the Seattle Seahawks, who lost $2.4 million, and the biggest loser of them all, the Oakland Raiders. Al Davis’ once wondrous franchise is now the least valuable NFL club at a “mere” $797 million, plus the Raiders had the biggest operating loss in the league at $5.7 million.
Los Angeles Times
December 3rd, 2009 at 4:23 pm
# 909RaiderLifer Says:
December 3rd, 2009 at 3:34 pm
Jerry Mac….
I did not know that Jim Fassel had a daughter coaching in the NFL.
“Fassel think she’s seen an improvement…..”
I know it’s a typo, but jeez man Jerry, you are getting PAID to write. Step your game up!
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He’s writing a blog, probably as he’s sitting somewhere, on a bench, in between practices.
And it’s to Raider fans.
It’s called “dumbing down” to make those around feel comfortable.
Admit it..you did, didn’t you?
December 3rd, 2009 at 4:29 pm
ExLa
I’m waiting, do you have a link, or are you just a flat out liar?
December 3rd, 2009 at 4:41 pm
Somebody on the last thread, maybe Dakota mentioned what a disappointment JLH has been this year. He has. Since he’s come back from injury, he’s not been the same. The dropoff in the whole return game from last year has been dramatic. I don’t know if it was the Spec team coordinator bolting for USC or what. Last year a combined 5 returns for TD. This year Nada. They can’t find a kick returner to reach the fifteen. JLH seems tentative and runs backwards on punt returns. This is the one area where Pittsburgh might be vulnerable. They’ve given up I believe 8 TD returns. Maybe this is the week JLH gets back on track. We can hope still, can’t we?
December 3rd, 2009 at 4:42 pm
KK I don’t lie.
http://www.forbes.com/lists/2008/30/sportsmoney_nfl08_Oakland-Raiders_300874.html
Last entry
Night All
December 3rd, 2009 at 4:44 pm
KoolKell – Good link.
December 3rd, 2009 at 4:46 pm
Sam Williams sitting the bench? i do not like this. The kid runs like a 4.4 forty.
December 3rd, 2009 at 4:47 pm
http://www.forbes.com/lists/2008/30/sportsmoney_nfl08_NFL-Team-Valuations_Rank_2.html
This site is great. Thanks Exla.
December 3rd, 2009 at 4:47 pm
Yeah, you better run.
Where on that freakin page did you see ANY profit figures?
December 3rd, 2009 at 4:47 pm
Primussuxxx – Slow down. You said that so fast, Al Davis might hire you haha.
December 3rd, 2009 at 4:48 pm
I wish we had Tomlin and Big Ben as opposed to Cable and Russell. Actually, no. Well yes, But I really wish we had the Steelers’ STABILITY.
December 3rd, 2009 at 4:48 pm
Silver-n-Smac Says:
December 3rd, 2009 at 3:44 pm
I think if we draft a big’ol dirty, rough-n-tumble kind of middle linebacker, that Howard & Morrision would do well on the outsides. It’s the middle of our defense that’s consistently gashed. Teams rarely have success running outside on us.
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I don’t see that happening. More likely, the pick will be Taylor Mays or the Berry kid. Why? No way the Raiders pay Michael Huff $5M next year. Unless Huff agrees to a restructured contract…he’s gone.
And if he’s gone….say hello to Mays or Berry. Mitchell and Branch will compete at SS with the outside chance that Branch hits the bench because Mitchell is the favorite. Although that would be ludicrous because Branch is actually pretty good. But hey, DHB over Murphy????
December 3rd, 2009 at 4:48 pm
KoolKell – On the middle right of the page there is a bunch of stat links next to the graphs…thats where the meat and potatoes is.
Rank
Team
Current Value ($mil)
1-Yr Value Change (%)
Debt/Value (%)
Revenue ($mil)
Operating Income ($mil)
December 3rd, 2009 at 4:51 pm
THRO-slc Says:
December 3rd, 2009 at 4:48 pm
I wish we had Tomlin and Big Ben as opposed to Cable and Russell. Actually, no. Well yes, But I really wish we had the Steelers’ STABILITY.
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Tomlin has total control of the starting lineup. He disciplined Casey Hampton when he showed up overweight. Put him on the PUP list and didn’t let him practice until he got in shape. Put him on notice.
Meanwhile, Cable lets the slothful JaMarcus Russell show up overweight, skipping OTAs, missing QB meetings, and not mastering the playbook, yet is handed the starting job with barely a wimper.
Davis manages the starting lineup and team discipline.
Rooney just owns the team and lets the coach run the team
December 3rd, 2009 at 4:52 pm
24, glad you caught the tongue in cheekiness of my statement. LOL
December 3rd, 2009 at 4:53 pm
Did you guys know that the Raiders have the WORST QB situation in the NFL.
Its not even close!
After spending a 1st round pick in 2007 and a 3rd round pick in 2005……
No QB means the team is still 3 to 4 years behind the curve.
Unless that retread comes through. Of course teams rarely get rid of good QBs
December 3rd, 2009 at 4:54 pm
SnB – Its no wonder they’ve only had 3 Head Coaches and happy ones at that while they have won 6 Superbowls. The players know who the boss is and the boss gets the team ready to play on Sunday’s.
December 3rd, 2009 at 4:54 pm
SnB – Shoulda went after Favre haha. He would have never stepped foot here.
December 3rd, 2009 at 4:55 pm
Favre is a football God. Toughest QB Ever. Hes having his best season EVER at 40 years old. Hes got more talent on his side than hes had the chance to play with in the past. Amazing. Hes like a kid out there still.
December 3rd, 2009 at 4:55 pm
24
I saw that.
December 3rd, 2009 at 4:56 pm
24 Says:
December 3rd, 2009 at 4:54 pm
SnB – Its no wonder they’ve only had 3 Head Coaches and happy ones at that while they have won 6 Superbowls. The players know who the boss is and the boss gets the team ready to play on Sunday’s.
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And this is why Davis is the worst owner in the NFL
December 3rd, 2009 at 4:59 pm
24,
Bizjournals analyzed the performances of all 122 franchises in the NBA, NFL, Major League Baseball and the National Hockey League in the 2008 calendar year. The top scores went to those teams that were strongest at the twin missions of professional sports — winning games and making money.
http://www.bizjournals.com/specials/pages/239.html
December 3rd, 2009 at 5:00 pm
24 Says:
December 3rd, 2009 at 4:54 pm
SnB – Shoulda went after Favre haha. He would have never stepped foot here.
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Why would a veteran willingly come here? This team is so far behind right now. The rebuilding really hasn’t even STARTED yet!
The Raiders need:
QB
RB (Bush is out of here & DMAC is a bust…Fargas will start next yr)
WR (need at least one pass catching receiver
RT
RG
C
FB
SLB
WLB
MLB
DT
DT
FS (They aren’t paying Huff $5MM)
NB
Head Coach
Coaching Staff (Except Dwaine Board…he’s good)
This team is so far away from winning.
That’s why I kept asking for this team to just freekn compete.
Couldn’t even get that.
A long dark night Nation.
The billboard needed to go up!
December 3rd, 2009 at 5:01 pm
Thing is that Leinart, Smith, V.Young, and other young Qbs at least kept themselves in shape and learned the playbook.
Our freekn bust QB couldn’t even be bothered to attend meetings.
Thanks Al Davis. Did you even interview the kid?
December 3rd, 2009 at 5:03 pm
I felt bad for Seymour…theres nothing the guy can do. He was lights out his first game but its changed since then and now hes just playing game by game with nothing to look forward to except free agency and you know hes hoping not to get franchised which he obviously will.
December 3rd, 2009 at 5:04 pm
Al Davis secret scouting technique = YouTube on a Projector
December 3rd, 2009 at 5:05 pm
KoolKell – Ranked 100 out of 122. Damn we’re good.
December 3rd, 2009 at 5:05 pm
Not only can our qb not attend meetings. he likes going to strip clubs late night before games and swillin Robitussin like it is Budweiser.
December 3rd, 2009 at 5:06 pm
attend meetings on time I meant,.
December 3rd, 2009 at 5:07 pm
It has to really suck for the scouting department on draft day to watch all that hard work they put in go down the drain. When draft day comes, Al Davis drafts the biggest arm, biggest leg and the fastest athletes and if you’re a track star, its an extra bonus.
When signing free agents its all about former 1st round picks, Superbowl MVPs and former Heisman Trophy Winners.
December 3rd, 2009 at 5:10 pm
A Survey of NFL Players Rank the Raiders as the worst organization in the League.
http://www.sportsbusinessdaily.com/article/125013
December 3rd, 2009 at 5:10 pm
We had a freak in Calvin Johnson available in the draft. The guy was super fast, super big and had great hands and made spectacular catches. On top of that, his nickname was Megatron. COME ON?
No…we went with the big dumb guy who could throw really far.
December 3rd, 2009 at 5:12 pm
KoolKell – Thats sad. I thought everybody grew up as a Raider fan? Haha. What a crock.
December 3rd, 2009 at 5:13 pm
You know its bad when your owner has to tell you to tell everyone that you were a Raiders fan growing up. If you were really that great, you wouldn’t have to have people say it for you because they would already know it.
December 3rd, 2009 at 5:15 pm
So far as the Russell pick in 07′ I really supported the pick. And let me remind you who Russell was before he got here.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JaMarcus_Russell#College_career_.282003-2006.29
December 3rd, 2009 at 5:18 pm
Just like Rey-REy last year, if the Raiders want Taylor Mays, they can get him in the second round.
He didn’t even make the list for Jim Thorpe finalists, given to best DB in college.
December 3rd, 2009 at 5:20 pm
The Raiders will do something stupider in the first round than drafting another safety.
My guess, maybe that Arenas kid from Alabama. No true position but does return kicks real well and is a blazer.
Sounds about right.
December 3rd, 2009 at 5:23 pm
What could have been…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MNs5nlqylqY
December 3rd, 2009 at 5:24 pm
KoolKell – I was for Brady Quinn and Calvin Johnson. I never liked JR. Once he became a Raider, I hoped for the best but it hasn’t worked out. Quinn hasn’t worked out either but Calvin Johnson has.
December 3rd, 2009 at 5:25 pm
I thought Brady Quinn fit what Kiffin wanted to do and I honestly thought Kiffin/Quinn would have been a good tandem. I think it could have worked here but JR/Kiffin? That was never a good match. Calvin Johnson would have fit everybody.
December 3rd, 2009 at 5:26 pm
4eva sent me a message on our FFL saying he had 16 beers and got banned the other day
December 3rd, 2009 at 5:34 pm
I told you guys yesterday, Bills-Beavers with the points.
Bills are going to win easy tonight.
December 3rd, 2009 at 5:41 pm
[...] Oakland Tribune is reporting that Trevor Scott, who has been a defensive end until he played linebacker at Dallas, will start at [...]
December 3rd, 2009 at 5:45 pm
I don’t know why people say the Trevor Scott thing reminds them of the Tyler Brayton switch.
Scott had 2 sacks in his first game.
Didn’t Brayton go sackless for 2 years??
December 3rd, 2009 at 5:47 pm
Brayton was sackless? So was that TE after the knee to the groin by Brayton.
December 3rd, 2009 at 5:48 pm
True. Brayton couldnt get it done here. he was a DT in college. We made him a DE and then LB. Scott on the other hand is much more mobile than either of those guys Irons and Brayton. He is a tweener and hopefuly the elephant position will suit him just fine.
December 3rd, 2009 at 5:49 pm
24
There was a link I came upon a while ago, that ranked NFL Franchises by the number of draft picks that made the Pro-Bowl.
I can’t find it now.
December 3rd, 2009 at 5:49 pm
not bad 24 not bad….
Jeremy Stevens it was. A real creep he is. Almost beat a kid a third of his size to death in high school with an aluminum bat. Than multiple dui’s.
He got what he deserved.
December 3rd, 2009 at 5:50 pm
I meant half his size, not a third, LOL.
December 3rd, 2009 at 5:51 pm
Tyler Brayton
YEAR TEAM G TOT SOLO AST PD SACK FF REC INT YDS TD
2003 OAK 16 61 48 13 1 2.5 0 0 0 0 0
2004 OAK 15 45 36 9 7 2.5 0 0 1 24 0
2005 OAK 16 16 14 2 0 1.0 1 0 0 0 0
2006 OAK 16 43 34 9 1 0.0 1 0 0 0 0
2007 OAK 16 11 9 2 1 0.0 0 0 0 0 0
2008 CAR 16 40 35 5 3 4.5 1 0 0 0 0
2009 CAR 11 37 30 7 1 4.0 1 0 0 0 0
Career 106 253 206 47 14 14.5 4 0 1 24 0
December 3rd, 2009 at 5:52 pm
KoolKell Says:
December 3rd, 2009 at 5:49 pm
24
There was a link I came upon a while ago, that ranked NFL Franchises by the number of draft picks that made the Pro-Bowl.
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3 of 24 1st & 2nd round picks since 1999 are considered solid NFL players
Nnamdi Asomugha
Zach Miller
Sebastian Janikowski – A kicker probably never can live up to a 1st round pick
So basically 21 busts since 1999
December 3rd, 2009 at 5:52 pm
Vegas Raider Says:
December 3rd, 2009 at 5:45 pm
I don’t know why people say the Trevor Scott thing reminds them of the Tyler Brayton switch.
Scott had 2 sacks in his first game.
Didn’t Brayton go sackless for 2 years??
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You don’t? Taking a DE and making him LB at the Pro-Level.
No resemblance whatsoever, really?
AAAHHHhhhhh, the 2 sacks, I see. Well, that makes all the difference in the world. lol. geez.
December 3rd, 2009 at 5:52 pm
the funny thing is Brayton has been the starting DE in Carolina the past 2 years. What are they seeing in him that we didnt?
December 3rd, 2009 at 5:54 pm
Gotcha SnB. Still I would like to archive that link, for my work.
December 3rd, 2009 at 5:56 pm
HAHAHAHA…Did you see that Braylon Edwards drop? OMG
December 3rd, 2009 at 5:56 pm
holy shcytt, did you guys just see that Edwards drop?
December 3rd, 2009 at 5:56 pm
I understand the similarities, but Brayton was a fiasco from day one. Scott looked pretty good out on day one, minus the collision with Branch.
At least with Scott, he was a 6th round pick, so it isn’t as bad as drafting a guy in the first round and than make him change positions.
December 3rd, 2009 at 5:57 pm
So who thinks a few tweaks here or there makes a bit of difference one way or the other? Can I see a show of hands please?
Let’s talk about something important, like the next billboard.
December 3rd, 2009 at 5:58 pm
We’ll still lose this game. Until we build a good oline we aint doing shcytt.
December 3rd, 2009 at 5:59 pm
Ohioraider Says:
December 3rd, 2009 at 5:57 pm
So who thinks a few tweaks here or there makes a bit of difference one way or the other? Can I see a show of hands please?
Let’s talk about something important, like the next billboard.
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Looks like the next project is a big AD in the Oakland Tribune.
http://www.messagetoal.com
December 3rd, 2009 at 6:00 pm
They finally had a line on the game today at the book.
Steelers -14.5
I really thought it would be higher. Guarantee the public pounds the Steelers.
December 3rd, 2009 at 6:02 pm
I had to turn the channel after watching that atrocious Braylon Edwards drop.
Good grief….talk about a way to hurt your QB….WIDE OPEN…and the ball bounced high off of him.
Horrendous
December 3rd, 2009 at 6:06 pm
Did everybody read the “blueprint to success”?
December 3rd, 2009 at 6:11 pm
Newspaper ad is next….LOL
Good show. This will at least annoy Davis for a while.
Its about the only thing fans can do right now.
Poor ticket sales haven’t done anything.
B.S’n on internet websites and chat rooms does nothing
Booing does nothing.
Why not give this a try.
Good show!
December 3rd, 2009 at 6:12 pm
The more they advertise about it the more Crazy Al will buckle down. I mean the best way is to just not show up at the game. when Al sees that his numbers dwindle at the game, then he will do something about it. Anytime you make it public, then Al will do the opposite. Just like Jim Harbaugh, the more Kawakami talks about it the more Al will not do it.
I am in support of the intention for message to Al but the organizer obviously is too young to realize that with old people it’s how you get the message cross not what the message is.
December 3rd, 2009 at 6:13 pm
Let’s hope Russell can get one past the 30.
I mean seriously, how many times have we fielded a normal lengthed kickoff and got one past the 30 this year. 3 times?? Couldn’t be much more.
December 3rd, 2009 at 6:14 pm
Marshawn Lynch!! Cal Bear.
I’m in favor of trading an early pick for him in the offseason if the Bills are willing to part ways.
December 3rd, 2009 at 6:14 pm
“Poor ticket sales haven’t done anything.”
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There’s never been ticket sales like these before in Oakland, Never.
December 3rd, 2009 at 6:16 pm
Chris Carr doesn’t look so bad anymore. The guy is our leading kickoff returner in Raiders history.
December 3rd, 2009 at 6:17 pm
Good point AIG but what is more public than not going to the games ?
December 3rd, 2009 at 6:17 pm
I thought the idea of everybody showing up to the parking lot only and tailgating but never buying a ticket or entering the game was a great idea. I guess the city gets the money for the parking so it wouldn’t be pocketed by Al Davis and the fans could still enjoy the atmosphere of the game and hear the game from the stadium.
December 3rd, 2009 at 6:18 pm
AIG,
Davis should understand constructive criticism. He gives it all the time.
Look at it this way. To me the Billboard shows that the fans care. A lot of other fan bases would fold into oblivion.
Who wants to be known as a patient lovable loser mentality like fanbase.
To turn a blind eye and simply shrug the shoulders would be to imitate a Chicago Cubs fan or LA Clipper fan
Al held create this fanbase and the fanbase wants Davis to stand up to his own credo.
Like….”Just Win Baby!”
Step it up Al
December 3rd, 2009 at 6:19 pm
The Jets may be struggling right now but I think they’ll be a lot better next year with some more additions and another year under their belt.
December 3rd, 2009 at 6:21 pm
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December 3rd, 2009 at 6:21 pm
24 Says:
December 3rd, 2009 at 6:19 pm
The Jets may be struggling right now but I think they’ll be a lot better next year with some more additions and another year under their belt.
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There QB is developing and they have good lines.
Our QB is regressing right out of the league and we have no lines
December 3rd, 2009 at 6:21 pm
Blueprint to Success: 5 step plan to return to greatness
1) Multi-tier football operations management including the following positions:
• General Manager
• Director of Football Administration
• Director of Player Personnel
• Pro Scout
• 5 Area Scouts
• Salary Cap Analyst
• Player Development Administrator
2) Complete autonomy to General Manager to choose, organize and develop his/her own staff.
3) Complete authority to the Head Coach to select and hire his own staff including Coordinators and Assistants.
• Allow the Head Coach the authority to select the offensive, defensive and special teams schemes that fits us best and puts us in the best position to win.
• Allow the Head Coach and General Manager (working as a team) the authority to draft players based on “Best Player Available”, “Position of Need” and “NFL-readiness” best practices followed by successful NFL franchises.
• Allow the Head Coach and General Manager (working as a team) the authority to hire free agent players based on the team needs, our particular scheme and other requirements.
• Allow the Head Coach the authority to select his starting team and bench players upon his choosing.
4) No interference with General Manager and Head Coach decisions.
5) Enjoy the playoffs after 3 seasons of following this plan. You deserve only the best Mr. Davis. Nothing would make us happier than seeing you carrying another Lombardi trophy! Go Raiders!
December 3rd, 2009 at 6:21 pm
The constant Blackouts in LA forced him to move back here, no?
December 3rd, 2009 at 6:23 pm
It would be hard to face Al Davis and say these things to him, I’ll admit. Talk about a nervous moment.
December 3rd, 2009 at 6:23 pm
We’re gonna end up as the Mexico City Raiders.
December 3rd, 2009 at 6:27 pm
24,
Post 110….Regretfully…there is no way in hell Davis does any of that.
The guy doesn’t care about winning….just winning his way
December 3rd, 2009 at 6:29 pm
Ticket sales in Oakland have never been this bad, and there’s never been a fan revolt.
So let’s not write the kids effort off as useless diversion.
If Al Davis was so friggin powerful, the Raiders would’n be the laughingstock of the NFL, ok?
Al Davis is more powerful than Capitalism? I don’t think so.
December 3rd, 2009 at 6:29 pm
SnB,
here is the issue with Al. No matter what happens “he wants to be the guy with the credit”.
Say he does what the messagetoAl group wants, then you konw the press will give all the credit to the fans and not him. Al is an egotistical mfcker. That shcytt will never happen. They say John Gruden got things done with Al because he would very nicely prove to Al that Al’s ideas wouldnt work. allowed Al to save face and live with it.
December 3rd, 2009 at 6:31 pm
Businesses in America can survive without customers? I don’t think so.
December 3rd, 2009 at 6:32 pm
the only way to get the message to Al is to not show up at the game. It sends a message to him but a subtle one. When the numbers dwindle down to 10-20k at the game after a year, then I believe Al will change. This kid Jared wants Al to change but still gonna fly in for the Baltimore game. It doesnt make sense.
December 3rd, 2009 at 6:35 pm
AIG, KoolKell, 24,
All I want is a competitive team.
I really could give a damn about whether Davis’ feelings are hurt or whether it embarrasses him.
I think the fanbase was quite patient until the team decidedly regressed this year.
The fanbase sees little hope on the horizon…and only those kool-aid junkies could believe otherwise.
The freekn league evolved and Davis stays stubbornly in the past.
This team will be the new LA Clippers or Pittsburgh Pirates if they are not careful.
This losing is horrendous.
And the silver lining is not even close.
The team hasn’t even begun to rebuild yet.
Just look at all of our needs
QB
RB
WR
FB
RT
RG
C
WLB
MLB
SLB
FS (not paying Huff $5 million)
NB
Its pathetic
We also have the WORST QB situation in the NFL….only the most important position on the field.
So I am all for the billboard, petition, newspaper ad, t.v commericals, pickets, empty stadium and whatever other peaceful means are necessary to express total displeasure and disgust at this rank incompetence.
A team full of marginal players, coaches and an owner that has no clue on how to make this right.
JUST TO BE FREEKN COMPETITIVE….FORGET WINNING!
GO AHEAD KID…KEEP IT UP!
December 3rd, 2009 at 6:36 pm
It would have been much more effective if the MTA group would just put up a billboard that says Mr. Davis please fix our Raiders or something like that. It allows Al to save face. But when you tell him what to do in details then he wont do it. You cannot ask an older person to change without allowing them to save face. I have been in way too many of those situations as head of HR in my prev working career.
December 3rd, 2009 at 6:36 pm
Oh, I forgot that the Raiders need two Defensive Tackles as well.
December 3rd, 2009 at 6:36 pm
KK,
I don’t know why you have such a problem with the Scott move. The guy seems a lot more athletic than Brayton. He seems to be a pretty good football player, and the raiders need more of those on the field. Now he goes from being an undersized DE who couldn’t hold the point of attack. Remember the Niner preseason game. They ran right at him all game, to a bigger 255 – 260 lb OLB, who’ll mostly rush the passer. Which seems to be his strength. It also allows more playing time for Shaunnesy, another youngster with potential at De. It’s worth a shot,IMO.
December 3rd, 2009 at 6:37 pm
I would walk into the room with Al Davis and he would be sitting there with his weird E.T. hand pointing in the air and he’d be licking his lips with his eyes looking glazed and staring into nothing and I would find myself saying nevermind and walking right out of the room haha. Creepy!
December 3rd, 2009 at 6:38 pm
“NFL-readiness”
LOL. In other words, the JaMarcus Russell rule.
December 3rd, 2009 at 6:41 pm
I agree with that blueprint, 24, except for section 5, where it says that Al deserves only the best.
December 3rd, 2009 at 6:42 pm
[...] Oakland Tribune is reporting that Trevor Scott, who has been a defensive end until he played linebacker at Dallas, will start at [...]
December 3rd, 2009 at 6:42 pm
Buckeyeraider Says:
December 3rd, 2009 at 6:36 pm
KK,
I don’t know why you have such a problem with the Scott move.
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I thought Brayton was a pretty good football player too.
Having players play positions they’ve never played before, I think is foolish.
It could be worth a shot, at this point, you can’t really hurt anything.
I’m just saying, I’ve seen this before, and it didn’t work.
December 3rd, 2009 at 6:45 pm
SnB – Agreed!
December 3rd, 2009 at 6:47 pm
I think there are people licking their chops that want to buy the Raiders and they’re hoping something happens that will allow them to take this team over in the near future. I really think there are a lot of people who care about the Raiders and want to fix it. I also think a lot of the old school fans will come back once Al Davis is gone after he pissed them off when the team moved to L.A.
December 3rd, 2009 at 6:48 pm
I think someone need to cover Mount Davis with a Huge sign much like the billboard that way its visible during the games. They cover it during the A’s game…why not the Raiders? Nobody is going anymore anyways.
December 3rd, 2009 at 6:50 pm
More intriguingly, one multimillionaire sports figure who does not wish to be identified has several times over the past 18 months expressed an unwavering curiosity. A longtime fan of the team, he is displeased about its decline and, moreover, says he is in contact with one or more billionaires with a DEFINITE interest.
So the desire to buy is there. The money is there. A deal probably could be assembled and presented in a matter of weeks.
The biggest hang-ups, the only hang-ups, are stipulations regarding percentage and control.
-Monte Poole.
December 3rd, 2009 at 6:58 pm
what a play by oregon state. good game.
December 3rd, 2009 at 6:58 pm
Personally, lets hope AL gets called by God and passes away, that will be the real solution.
December 3rd, 2009 at 7:02 pm
I have a hunch at some point Al will bring in Madden as a part owner. That would be his way of reducing his roles without losing face.
December 3rd, 2009 at 7:05 pm
Madden could be one of the interested parties but doesn’t want to be the one to disrespect Al. Madden is retired, his got ALOT of money and he loves the Raiders.
December 3rd, 2009 at 7:05 pm
Whats the point of this game being played in Toronto? Half empty stadium doesn’t look good on Television.
December 3rd, 2009 at 7:08 pm
Don Nelson returns.
FUG!
December 3rd, 2009 at 7:11 pm
# aig Says:
December 3rd, 2009 at 6:36 pm
It would have been much more effective if the MTA group would just put up a billboard that says Mr. Davis please fix our Raiders or something like that. It allows Al to save face. But when you tell him what to do in details then he wont do it. You cannot ask an older person to change without allowing them to save face. I have been in way too many of those situations as head of HR in my prev working career.
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LMFAO..you’re too stupid to be head of anything..who do you think you’re kidding?
You’re unemployed, by your own admission.
You sit at home all doing, doing nothing, while the wife works, by your own admission.
Pay attention, idiot.
Anyone..ANYONE of “power” regardless of age, doesn’t want to be told what to do. You running the “don’t tell an old person what to do” means you, as usual, don’t have a clue.
Hey..you can do one thing right..you beat women.
Oh..and when you see some guys walking down the street? What was it you said you did?
Oh yeah..”I run to the other side of the street. some of these guys are scary, and I don’t want to get beat up”
December 3rd, 2009 at 7:14 pm
Johnathan Sanchez is the 2nd QB in Jets History to pass for 2,000 yards. The 1st is Joe Namath.
December 3rd, 2009 at 7:14 pm
# aig Says:
December 3rd, 2009 at 7:02 pm
I have a hunch at some point Al will bring in Madden as a part owner. That would be his way of reducing his roles without losing face.
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Oh geez…Madden has more money than Al.
Madden hated Al with a passion when he was forced out of the game by Al’s meddling.
Madden spends more time at Niner games, and Niner practices than he does with the Raiders.
Madden NEVER has been seen in Al’s box during games.
What you mean is Al would bring Madden in as an advisor, or as a consultant..not as an owner, you moron.
You never answered..you felt like a badass after punching out your ex, didn’t you?
December 3rd, 2009 at 7:16 pm
La James = Raiders 2nd round pick 2011!
December 3rd, 2009 at 7:17 pm
Amy Trask is a tokenhead.
Does nothing.
Her current position is “in charge of marketing and ticket sales”.
In other words, she sucks. lol..the ONLY advertising anywhere in the east bay is a new sign on 880..and it wasn’t put up by Amy.
Ticket sales? She is responsible for the lowest turnouts EVER in the last 40 years…can’t see Amy doing squat in the future.
December 3rd, 2009 at 7:19 pm
Amy must give great helmet.
December 3rd, 2009 at 7:20 pm
# 24 Says:
December 3rd, 2009 at 6:48 pm
I think someone need to cover Mount Davis with a Huge sign much like the billboard that way its visible during the games. They cover it during the A’s game…why not the Raiders? Nobody is going anymore anyways.
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Interesting idea…except Al will probably pull a Dan Snyder.
Instead of dealing with all the negative messages directed at him, Snyder just decided to ban ALL banners and signs from Wash stadium.
December 3rd, 2009 at 7:21 pm
# 24 Says:
December 3rd, 2009 at 7:19 pm
Amy must give great helmet.
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LOL…that..and the fact that she’s the last of the TriFecta hires that proves Al’s a “retro” guy.
December 3rd, 2009 at 7:24 pm
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December 3rd, 2009 at 7:25 pm
Interesting!
December 3rd, 2009 at 7:27 pm
Or…
http://homepage.mac.com/chrisndeca/raidertrainingcamp2000/DSCN0040.jpg
December 3rd, 2009 at 7:27 pm
Wanna send a message? Nobody shows at the next home game…..I mean nobody…..not after the kick off, I mean the whole game. So far as I can remember not one comment has been made about the empty seats in oakland during the game…….but if no one shows that would send many messages at once.
December 3rd, 2009 at 7:27 pm
That 1st picture was so off haha.
December 3rd, 2009 at 7:28 pm
Frank – We have been talking about empty seats all day. =)
December 3rd, 2009 at 7:28 pm
We can start a fund to hire the hells angels to keep the diehards out of the stadium….Altamont anyone?
December 3rd, 2009 at 7:29 pm
Amy is very close to al. not saying she is gonna have ownership, but she will definitely be there for the transition. Amy is Al’s pitbull, don’t be fooled.
December 3rd, 2009 at 7:29 pm
http://www.exposay.com/celebrity-photos/amy-trask-2009-nfl-nfl-101201-los-angeles-6TGiVy.jpg
Oh Yeah!
December 3rd, 2009 at 7:29 pm
Amy will get kicked to the curb if someone has the ability to take the team away.
December 3rd, 2009 at 7:31 pm
That could happen if Mark sells the team.
December 3rd, 2009 at 7:33 pm
Charlie wiess is the coach we need. Jamarcus ran the spread and was very good by his junior year. Wiess developed Tom Brady in his spread offense, with little speed around him. Wiess would come at a cheap price, could develope our young offensive talent qb and receivers in particular, and would focus on offense and stay out of big Al’s way on defense and with personel. The spread offense is a decendent of the al Davis / air corryell / sid gilman vertical peeing offense. This offense is the perfect match for the press man to man 4-3 defense al loves. When the opposing offense has pressure to score touchdowns and is forcedd to throw that is when the raider defense is best. Wiess for hc in 2010
December 3rd, 2009 at 7:35 pm
Oops! I meant passing offense not peeing offense
December 3rd, 2009 at 7:48 pm
Amy Trask is an empty suit. If someone were to somehow get control of this team, she should be thrown out head first with Al. All current management is responsible for this mess, for enabling Al. There is no baby with this bathwater. Throw it all out.
December 3rd, 2009 at 7:53 pm
And I would go as far as to include Greg Papa. Yes, him. I enjoy his touchdown Raiders announcements as much as anyone, but this guy in the past few years has gone from radio play by play guy to Davis shill. He’s a joke on that Chronicle Live. Comcast has some kind of deal going on with the Raiders and basically that show is being used by the Raiders as a soap box to go after team critics, with Papa being the front man. Papa tried to misrepresent Nnamdi’s recent criticism of Al and put words into his mouth, to take away his credibility, and Monte Poole put him in check for it. “He didn’t say that!”. And of course the cut to the credits just as this is happening. Keep exposing them, Monte.
December 3rd, 2009 at 7:53 pm
I have a better idea.
Everyone stays out for the whole first quarter. (season ticket buyers already paid for their game..Al already has the money)..everyone goes in for the second quarter.
Leave at the half.
Get hand stamped.
Stay out for the complete 3rd quarter
Come back for the 4th quarter.
Chant “FIRE AL” for 5 minutes straight.
Leave.
Now that’s a statement
December 3rd, 2009 at 7:55 pm
Charlie Weiss? You can’t be serious.
December 3rd, 2009 at 7:57 pm
Even if Charlie Weis was hired, he’d last what…2 years at the most? No Head Coach can fix this problem.
December 3rd, 2009 at 7:57 pm
# Frank YoooooooLLL Says:
December 3rd, 2009 at 7:28 pm
We can start a fund to hire the hells angels to keep the diehards out of the stadium….Altamont anyone?
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Actually, I wouldn’t be surprised to see the other side try something similar to that. Read some of the comments in here. That writing has been on the wall.
December 3rd, 2009 at 7:59 pm
Al Davis’s mistress is John Herrera. I thought that was obvious.
December 3rd, 2009 at 7:59 pm
““I guess we’ll see Sunday””
Way to sound encouraging, Trevor.
December 3rd, 2009 at 8:00 pm
MR – Tiger had more than one too.
December 3rd, 2009 at 8:01 pm
Maybe the ownership shakedown can take place during the NFL lockout? Maybe thats Primetime?
December 3rd, 2009 at 8:03 pm
“# The Real MaddenRaider Says:
December 3rd, 2009 at 7:55 pm
Charlie Weiss? You can’t be serious.”
Why the hell not?
Why wouldnt you want somebody who could clue the defense in how to attack Josh McDaniels attack?
Thats how Sean Payton got New Orleans on a roll..he studied how to attack defenses… who are we to turn our nose up at anybody after the garbage weve seen in 5 years – Weiss not only could draft Claussen, but would be the best hire since Gruden. Who the hell else would take it? Brian Billick? Jim Fassel? Marc Trestman? sh%t we’d be lucky to get Herm Edwards at this point….
December 3rd, 2009 at 8:06 pm
Even if Charlie Weis was hired, he’d last what…2 years at the most? No Head Coach can fix this problem.
give him a decent GM, jimmy claussen, CJ Spiller and Anquan Boldin, and he’d get us in the playoffs.
Its playcalling…hello? – its not that complicated….its who can adjust to defenses, and Weis was one of the best…he didnt have the horses at ND…they put points up, they just couldnt stop anybody
December 3rd, 2009 at 8:06 pm
“Amy is Al’s pitbull”??
Huh??
When did Amy ever step up, in any circumstance, and perform as a pitbull? What has she ever accomplished?
She’s CEO. Exactly what she’s “executive officer” over is anyone’s guess.
Amy’s good for relaying info on Al’s health, or shooting down the notion that Eddie D and Carmen Policy are going to buy the Raiders..other than that she’s pretty much non-existent.
December 3rd, 2009 at 8:08 pm
Weiss would be an upgrade over Cable, I’ll give you that. Then again, so would Darth Raider. But Weiss’s stint at ND just has overrated written all over him. Another guy who’s good because the media says he is. Another Diet Coke drinking coordinator who succeeded on the backs of great talent and superior general management.
December 3rd, 2009 at 8:11 pm
“Someone to clue the defense into how to atack the Josh McDaniels attack” ?? LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
December 3rd, 2009 at 8:12 pm
RaiderSam – I don’t think its as easy as signing Weis, drafting Clausen if you’re even in position to get him and spending more money on a draft QB while also trading for Boldin whom we haven’t traded for yet and he doesn’t run a 4.3 so I doubt thats really going to happen because if it were, it would have happened by now. Good ideas don’t work around here, Al Davis would never listen to them anyways, thats why we suck.
December 3rd, 2009 at 8:13 pm
Besides…Al Davis is afraid of Notre Dame players. They’re smart.
December 3rd, 2009 at 8:18 pm
More people hurt working on the Cowboys stadium. This has got to be a tough year for Jerry Jones with the collapse of the Cowboys training facility and now this. There was something else that went wrong wasn’t there?
December 3rd, 2009 at 8:19 pm
Oh that’s no problem. It’s only black, smart people Al doesn’t like.
December 3rd, 2009 at 8:20 pm
Not al’s pitbull in football matters, in matters of legal stuff. you guys take words and add your own meanings. don’t get it twisted. she is the most powerful woman in the NFL. You think she got that way by being a yes person? Damn, wake up people.
December 3rd, 2009 at 8:22 pm
Posted by PFT.com lastnight
Raiders fans buy a billboard
Posted by Mike Florio on December 2, 2009 10:46 PM ET
Earlier this year, the Oakland Raiders purchased a series of billboards in the Bay Area, featuring a variety of non-memorable memorable plays from past seasons of football.
So it makes sense, we suppose, that Raiders fans have gone the billboard route, too.
The folks at MessageToAl.com have purchased a billboard, apparently with someone’s credit card, demanding that owner Al Davis hire a G.M.
We admire the effort, but they’re wasting their money. Al Davis is gonna do what he damn well pleases, and even if he hires a G.M. it’ll be a G.M. who has no other options, and he’ll still have to do whatever Davis tells him to do.
December 3rd, 2009 at 8:23 pm
Cheap labor, cutting corners, cheaper material. It’s common sense. You get what you pay for. He wanted an immaculate palace of a stadium, that would have simply been unaffordable had he used more expensive labor (who, naturally, take their job and work more seriously), more premium material, etc. He did everything at grade and cheap. It looks nice, but it’s probably a house of cards that would get spit right into the gulf by a good enough hurricane.
December 3rd, 2009 at 8:24 pm
This oregon-oregon state game is coming along nicely, which brings me to this, at what round would you draft LaGarret Blount, if he was available. he is a big bruising runner and he just scored a TD, which shows me that he can face adversity, self created, and come back and still do something. I gotta admit, he really screwed up, but he came back after 12 weeks, got in the game, and scored. ok, which round. i say if he is there at the 4th or 5th round, why not. we could use a bruising runner. and no, Micheal bush does not count.
December 3rd, 2009 at 8:24 pm
Heres a comment posted after the PFT.com post. I thought this was pretty funny.
slow2spk1 says:
December 2, 2009 10:53 PM
“Al Davis is gonna do what he damn well pleases”
No kidding! Judging by the recent photos of Crazy Uncle Al, it looks like he’s even told death to get bent.
December 3rd, 2009 at 8:26 pm
Does it really matter who we draft at this point? The last 7 drafts haven’t helped us much at this point.
December 3rd, 2009 at 8:27 pm
Amy Trask is a Davis lackey. Nothing more. What’s the point of her being the most powerful woman in the NFL if she does nothing but carry out Al’s poor management? And, she’s only the most powerful woman in the NFL because the owner of the Rams died. Cut the media guide hype on Amy Trask. She’s another David enabler who needs to be tossed out the same door he does.
December 3rd, 2009 at 8:28 pm
Davis enabler, not David. Excuse me.
December 3rd, 2009 at 8:28 pm
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2009/12/02/raiders-fans-buy-a-billboard/
Seriously…You guys gotta read these comments by people. This is what people think and know about the Raiders.
December 3rd, 2009 at 8:30 pm
Maybe Al Davis needs to stop hiring for the sake of gender or race and just worry about hiring the best candidate regardless of what they are or what they look like. If Al Davis hires his front office staff the way he hires his coaches and drafts his players, they’re probably terrible at what they do as well.
December 3rd, 2009 at 8:31 pm
And, tacking on to what I said earlier, I doubt Amy Trask is really the most powerful woman in the NFL. On paper she is. But considering that she probably doesn’t sneeze without Al’s permission, I guarantee you there are at least a dozen women in the NFL who carry on more responsibilities and have more clout with their organization than she does. What’s up with the woman with the Bengals? Paul Brown’s daughter? There is NO WAY Trask has more say within her organization than that Brown woman does. Guarantee you she’s more powerful than Amy. Easily. Just not on paper.
December 3rd, 2009 at 8:32 pm
Talking about the draft is as useless as titts on a boar.
December 3rd, 2009 at 8:33 pm
nah, I doubt it. You guys are all stuck on your opinions, and that is cool. davis lackey? No, he has John Herrera for that.
December 3rd, 2009 at 8:34 pm
hahaha, no doubt. I hate draft time.
December 3rd, 2009 at 8:35 pm
http://www.whodeyrevolution.com/
I guess the Bengals fans have a site of their own to combat many years of losing as well.
December 3rd, 2009 at 8:35 pm
# Mistabrown Says:
December 3rd, 2009 at 8:48 am
Greg Papa on Chonicle live yesterday threw Nnamdi under the bus. After showing Nnamdis comments Papa said “why did Nnamdi take that big contract if he didnt want to play here”
Nice going Papa, tear a page out of the Oakglen/MR blogging handbook where you knowingly misquote the guy to make your case.
Papa you are nothing but a koolaid drinking nutsack of a fool. Admit AL is ruining the franchise or STFU you jack a$$!
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# The Real MaddenRaider Says:
December 3rd, 2009 at 7:53 pm
And I would go as far as to include Greg Papa. Yes, him. I enjoy his touchdown Raiders announcements as much as anyone, but this guy in the past few years has gone from radio play by play guy to Davis shill. He’s a joke on that Chronicle Live. Comcast has some kind of deal going on with the Raiders and basically that show is being used by the Raiders as a soap box to go after team critics, with Papa being the front man. Papa tried to misrepresent Nnamdi’s recent criticism of Al and put words into his mouth, to take away his credibility, and Monte Poole put him in check for it. “He didn’t say that!”. And of course the cut to the credits just as this is happening. Keep exposing them, Monte.
December 3rd, 2009 at 8:37 pm
There goes the plane idea haha.
shinsnake says:
December 3, 2009 8:18 AM
Sorry Raiders fans, us Bengals fans have been doing this for damn near a decade trying to get Mike Brown to hire a GM. Some Bengals fans even took to flying planes over training camp showing the Bengals win-loss record since 1990. It did exactly nothing to fix the organization. And I’m guessing if it won’t work for a stubborn Mike Brown, it probably won’t work for an even more stubborn Al Davis.
December 3rd, 2009 at 8:37 pm
# primussuxxx Says:
December 3rd, 2009 at 8:20 pm
Not al’s pitbull in football matters, in matters of legal stuff. you guys take words and add your own meanings. don’t get it twisted. she is the most powerful woman in the NFL. You think she got that way by being a yes person? Damn, wake up people.
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You haven’t answered..WHAT HAS SHE DONE?
Well??
I mean..if she’s the “most powerful woman in the NFL’..shouldn’t she at least HAVE DONE JUST ONE THING?
One thing..just one..that says she’s a go getter, or that she’s a people mover, or that she’s actually IN CHARGE OF SOMETHING?
Anything?
Well??? IF YOU CAN’T THINK OF SOMETHING..THEN MAYBE YOU NEED TO RETHINK YOUR COMMENT…
And do I think she got the job from being a YES PERSON? Hell yeah..I guarantee you that’s how she got her job.
CEO..and..last I check her duties were “ticket sales”…CEO OF A COMPANY, AND YOU’RE IN CHARGE OF TICKET SALES? lol…if that’s not a token figurehead, what the hell is?
The fact she is still working for Al means she’s the longest tenured “YES SIR” employee he has.
December 3rd, 2009 at 8:38 pm
Or, if Al’s going to hire based on race, which I don’t have a problem with, at least hire women and minorities that aren’t total lackeys of his.
I have a controversial theory about affirmative action. I think it’s funny, but a lot others don’t. Anyhow, you take any job held by a white male, anywhere. One individual position. Are you going to tell me there isn’t one woman or minority that can do the job better than him, anywhere on the planet? In regards to the NFL…who are the white coaches that are irreplaceable? Belichick, Sean Payton… Are you going to tell me there isn’t a minority out there who can do a better job than Tom Cable? Eric Mangini? Nobody? There is no black guy on the planet that the Browns could have considered before Eric Man f’n Gini? IMO, that’s why affirmative action is necessary. I know that’s radical, but my point of view is that in the American business world, we already have an affirmative action for white males, it’s just not on paper.
December 3rd, 2009 at 8:40 pm
Yawn.
December 3rd, 2009 at 8:43 pm
Amy Trask handles litigation for the raiders, and has for quite some time. hence, she is Al’s pitbull. damn guys, it is not rocket science. Who do you think is behind Ratnahan not getting his money when iot was recently settled, maybe about 2 years ago. also, who do you think is behind handling the kiffin situation so he does not get paid. do you actually think Al is laying out the legal groundwork for kiffin not to get paid? Wake up call.
December 3rd, 2009 at 8:43 pm
MR…this sounds like a response from you. Haha.
RSKindred says:
December 3, 2009 9:45 AM
Ok Cerberus, so by that logic, there can never be any new Raiders fans because they can’t POSSIBLY know what that crazy old bastard means to the Raiders and to the NFL? How about you stfu and stop acting like you’re the authority on who “true” fans are.
Thanks.
He didn’t disgrace anybody. AL DAVIS has disgraced a once-proud franchise by the way he does business. His team is now a disgrace to the league.
December 3rd, 2009 at 8:45 pm
MR, after we discuss affirmative action can we talk about Govt funded abortions in the 0bama Marx HC bill ?
December 3rd, 2009 at 8:46 pm
Amy Trask’s name didn’t come up on Wikipedia.com I guess she really hasn’t accomplished anything as theres nothing to report haha.
December 3rd, 2009 at 8:46 pm
Amy Trask is like the ace in the hole for Davis shills. They always talk about her as if she’s an asset. “We’ve still got Amy”. Yeh, we’ve still got someone who has done nothing but carried out Al’s bunk decisions for decades. Everybody who has been here for the duration of this 7 year run, in management, at least (I don’t have a problem with some guy working in the locker room or whatever), is as responsible for this mess as Al. They’ve enabled him. Do nothing, say nothing, you’ll be nothing. Yes men (and women, in this case) rise with the tide, and get washed to shore with the drift. If someone else gets control of this team, everyone is gone. I guarantee it. If this person is serious about changing the culture here.
December 3rd, 2009 at 8:47 pm
Politics? Haha. Sh!t.
December 3rd, 2009 at 8:48 pm
I wonder what Al is doing right….now?
December 3rd, 2009 at 8:48 pm
davis shill? You must be mistaking me for some other moron. I am the guy who gave up my season tickets during nor turners second run. I am glad YOU finally caught up with ME.
December 3rd, 2009 at 8:48 pm
norv
December 3rd, 2009 at 8:49 pm
24 it was sarcasm.
December 3rd, 2009 at 8:50 pm
I thought it was Gruden’s fault for the team being old and falling apart the last 7 years?
“Al Davis has been criticized for bringing in unwanted players and misfits that other NFL teams have rejected because these athletes may have tarnished reputations or may have been believed to be washed up and over-the-hill. But Al often sees what others miss: many of these old warriors may have gotten a bad rap, and many still have the zeal, will, and passion to not only play but also to win.”
December 3rd, 2009 at 8:51 pm
Mistabrown – Oh I know…and it was funny.
December 3rd, 2009 at 8:56 pm
http://www.raiderdrive.com/amy_trask.htm
In 1997, Al Davis made another landmark choice when he made Amy Trask the first and only female CEO, not just in the Raider annals, but also in the history of League.2 This dynamic woman is educated, talented, straight-forward, intimidated by no one, and, of course, crazed about the Raiders every bit as much as any die-hard. Where Al Davis is, whether it is sitting at a game, fighting a legal matter, or just tending business as usual, you will usually see Amy Trask by his side.
BASD-Raiderdrive had a chance to chat with Amy Trask and asked her how she came into the Raiders’ family both as a fan and as an employee. (Now it might be just a coincidence, but it is perhaps prophetic that before going to Cal Berkeley, she did some of her undergrad work at Southern Cal—at Davis, no less.) At any rate, Amy has long been a Raider fan since her school days at Berkeley before going on to law school at Southern Cal in L.A. And now, her mom, dad, and sister are hooked on the Silver & Black. “My mom and dad, who were not football fans when I was growing up, are avid Raider fans; and they, along with my sister, are PSL holders. They do not miss a home game. They fly up each week from Los Angeles,” said Amy.
Just like many players who have dreamed of playing for the Raiders, Amy, too, had visions of becoming part of the team. “I did an internship for the Raiders [1983] while I was in graduate school in Southern California. It had long been a dream of mine to work for the Raiders,” she said.
Having a strong work ethic, Amy Trask was not afraid to start at the ground level and work her way up to the corporate suite. Amy seems to be aware that many young people want to achieve success immediately after completing their educations. But a ladder has equally spaced rungs, and most of us must climb one rung at a time. It is no different with the corporate ladder of success. Amy Trask gives this advice, which, although it is designed for those who dream of working for an NFL team, could be beneficial for anyone seeking to reach success in any field: “If you can find an internship or entry-level position with a team — even if you feel it is not as advanced as you like — take that opportunity. Use that position to demonstrate your work ethic, passion and commitment to the team.”3 After completing a degree in political science at Cal, in 1985, this talented and diligent graduate worked for a law firm in L.A. But two years later, in 1987, she was re-united with the Raiders’ family and Al Davis, who had apparently remembered the supercharged young intern from Cal. Amy joined the Raiders’ legal staff and the rest is, as they say, history.
Aside from the legendary reputation for providing unique employment chances for many who otherwise would not have received them, Amy points out that one guiding principle of the Raider organization is that our youth need not fear to dream; in fact, the franchise challenges them to defy the odds. Had Amy not followed that principle, she would not be where she is today. “I dared to dream. It’s a message we should carry to young women everywhere, and even little girls. Take advantage of your opportunities. Don’t sell yourself short.”4
December 3rd, 2009 at 8:56 pm
Did I miss the village idiot or did priesttj already come in here and call everybody stupid ?
December 3rd, 2009 at 8:57 pm
This stuff is so corny.
This spring, Amy Trask was recognized by the San Francisco Business Times as one of the 75 Most Influential Bay Area Business Women. Amy stands as a role model for all girls and women of all ages, proving that they need not take a back seat to anyone in the pursuance of their goals. It is fitting that Rosa Parks is her idol.5 When Rosa refused to give up her seat on a bus to a white man, she inspired women to have the courage to move to the forefront. For Amy, it was the fortitude to take a seat on the board (right next to Al Davis) and take part in the League and owners’ meetings by representing the franchise.
Even though this is a non-traditional role for women, Amy appears to be up to the task. It seems that at these sessions, Amy demonstrates her ability to compete in any arena, and just like her Raider teammates on the field, she is not to be intimidated by the opposition. Al Davis summarized the spunk of his CEO: “She is not afraid to stand up in a room full of men and say what she thinks.”6 And more than likely, when she speaks, people listen. As Amy points out: “I offer my opinions when asked, and even when I’m not asked.”7
December 3rd, 2009 at 8:58 pm
Mistabrown – He hasn’t come in yet but you might have given him a reason to say something as he’s probably reading everything and cursing to himself.
December 3rd, 2009 at 8:59 pm
wow. You must be really bored 24.
December 3rd, 2009 at 8:59 pm
CJ Watson/Ellis/Curry = Damn good back court!
Get Nellie the FK out of there.
December 3rd, 2009 at 9:00 pm
I do not need to go hunting on the internet to know what is up with the raiders. Hahaha.
December 3rd, 2009 at 9:00 pm
they suck.
December 3rd, 2009 at 9:00 pm
WTF?
Since Amy officially joined the team as CEO, the Raiders have yet to win a SB, so what do you think her goal is? “I’m very excited about Bill Callahan and the upcoming season,” Amy said. “Like everyone affiliated with the Raiders, my goal is to win the Super Bowl.” And after that goal? Amy replied, “To win another!” Thus, it seems that Amy is ready to hang on for the entire ride, all the way to San Diego.
It is fitting that when asked about her favorite food, she replied, “My favorite food is desserts.” No, nothing specific—just desserts! We know that because of her dedication, hard work, and contribution to the Raider organization, Amy Trask will indeed one day have all the success that she deserves in life. In other words, she will get her “just desserts.” After all, she’s Chief Executive Officer, baby!
December 3rd, 2009 at 9:00 pm
Amy Trask and politics?
Someone call up priesttj and tell him Al has been re-elected to the hall of fame. That should liven things up…
December 3rd, 2009 at 9:01 pm
Mistabrown – Exactly. Nelson is the basketball equivalent of Al Davis. That guy is old, tired and done. Hes just trying to break the record. If I were the ownership, I’d just fire him now haha.
December 3rd, 2009 at 9:03 pm
The funny thing about that whole article was that it just talked about how great she was without being specific on exactly what she really does. Amazing! Maybe I missed it? There was a lot to read.
December 3rd, 2009 at 9:03 pm
And JaMarcus wil give the induction speach.
December 3rd, 2009 at 9:04 pm
Does sharing the new 49ers stadium help preserve the Raiders?
December 3rd, 2009 at 9:07 pm
Jamarcus – “Nah man…I don’t want an induction, those hurt.” Haha.
December 3rd, 2009 at 9:07 pm
LOL
# NorthernD Says:
December 3rd, 2009 at 9:03 pm
And JaMarcus wil give the induction speach.
December 3rd, 2009 at 9:11 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQeKMGaekzE
Cool video of the new 49ers stadium. Relevant if the Raiders share it.
December 3rd, 2009 at 9:14 pm
http://football.ballparks.com/NFL/SanFrancisco49ers/newindex.htm
December 3rd, 2009 at 9:14 pm
As it stands right now we are in a 3 way tie for the 5th overall pick with Washington & KC. If we pickup 2 wins we could fall to #10 or further.
December 3rd, 2009 at 9:17 pm
According to the Chronicle’s Matier and Ross, the environmental review and design for a proposed 49ers stadium in Santa Clara includes the possibility of accommodating a second team, perhaps the Oakland Raiders.
Apparently, if the Santa Clara City Council approves the environmental impact report next month, the two-team option will be part of the plan on the ballot before voters.
Stadium opponents, like Bill Bailey of Santa Clara Plays Fair, were furious.
“It doubles the number of game days,” he said. “Stadium proponents on the 49ers have tried to persuade us we will not see environmental problems more than two or four nights a year. Now they’re talking about doubling the number of home games.”
Bailey said in neighborhoods near the stadium some residents will have to deal with inconveniences such as roads being closed and police checkpoints.
It’s the 49ers that would have the option to bring in another team, which would reportedly double the stadium’s income. But a spokeswoman said that right now, there is no other team that wants to play in Santa Clara.
Last week, the Raiders renewed their lease in Oakland, until 2013.
The Niners hope to have their stadium built by 2014.
December 3rd, 2009 at 9:19 pm
24,
That would be quite the new stadium. I don’t think they would have to expand it if the Raiders were co-tennants though.
With those cut out sections, that would create some real problems with cross winds, and give a home team a huge advantage.
If the Raiders did move there, they could expand the seating when “you know who” is no longer in the picture, and they return to respectability again.
December 3rd, 2009 at 9:19 pm
shinsnake says:
December 3, 2009 8:18 AM
Sorry Raiders fans, us Bengals fans have been doing this for damn near a decade trying to get Mike Brown to hire a GM. Some Bengals fans even took to flying planes over training camp showing the Bengals win-loss record since 1990. It did exactly nothing to fix the organization. And I’m guessing if it won’t work for a stubborn Mike Brown, it probably won’t work for an even more stubborn Al Davis.
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The BIG difference is, the Bengals have a record of 50 straight sellouts.
December 3rd, 2009 at 9:20 pm
http://www.draftcountdown.com/sub/Mock-Draft-A.php
This has the Raiders taking Carlos Dunlap, DE, Florida with the 8th pick in the 2010 draft.
December 3rd, 2009 at 9:21 pm
24 Says:
December 3rd, 2009 at 9:20 pm
http://www.draftcountdown.com/sub/Mock-Draft-A.php
This has the Raiders taking Carlos Dunlap, DE, Florida with the 8th pick in the 2010 draft.
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Is that before or after his arrest for DUI?
December 3rd, 2009 at 9:23 pm
“It’s common knowledge that the Oakland Raiders are infatuated Workout Warriors and last year’s selection of Darrius Heyward-Bey with the #7 overall pick simply reaffirmed that notion. If a prospect possesses a freakish blend of size, speed and athleticism there is a good chance that Al Davis will be targeting him. Using that logic this pick comes down to either Florida’s Carlos Dunlap or USC’s Taylor Mays. Despite the acquisition of Richard Seymour the Raiders could still use some more help along their defensive line and Dunlap looks like a prospect who is right in Davis’ wheelhouse.
An extremely impressive physical specimen, Dunlap reportedly runs a 4.6 forty at 6-6 and 290 pounds. Dunlap is still very raw and inconsistent but in many ways he will remind you of Mario Williams and the sky is the limit when it comes to his upside. Don’t rule out Mays though because even though safety isn’t necessarily the Raiders most glaring need it might be tough for Davis to pass on a local product with his rare combination of size and speed. Other options for Oakland could include an offensive tackle, linebacker, cornerback or perhaps even a quarterback since JaMarcus Russell is looking more and more like a bust. Either way if history has taught us anything it’s to error on the side of the workout numbers when it comes to Oakland.”
December 3rd, 2009 at 9:24 pm
NorthernD – That was November 6th. I don’t know?
December 3rd, 2009 at 9:25 pm
Ah…Dunlap was arrest on Tuesday so I guess that was way before the DUI.
December 3rd, 2009 at 9:25 pm
Before. He was arrested last week. Passed out at a stop light.
December 3rd, 2009 at 9:26 pm
“Arrested”
Or should we call it…Artested for DUI? Haha.
December 3rd, 2009 at 9:26 pm
Or maybe Artested for PUI (Playing Under the Influence)
December 3rd, 2009 at 9:28 pm
That won’t change Al’s mind though. He’ll just have the coaches teach him character.
Just the coaches can McFadden to run and not fall down. Or teach JaMarcus to throw the ball accurately. Or teach DHB to catch the frickin football.
But you can’t teach speed…
December 3rd, 2009 at 9:34 pm
To watch McFadden get caught from behind was a travesty in last years Chiefs game. I believe he hurt his toe on that play as well so he was running healthy at the time and still got caught. McFadden just wasn’t the speedster Al thought he was I guess.
December 3rd, 2009 at 9:35 pm
More Gradkowski, more Cable, no starting running back being named and its WEEK 13! – HELLLOOOO!!
All equates to more losses.
Week 13 and you still can’t name a starting RB.
December 3rd, 2009 at 9:36 pm
Terrapin – Cable is trying to keep the Steelers on their toes haha. If they don’t know who the running back is, they might be surprised for the 1st minute of the game and that minute is crucial because you know how important it is to practice for a particular running back. Haha.
December 3rd, 2009 at 9:37 pm
Gary Russell returning kicks? What a joke ..even admitting dude is no threat …so why are you running him genius?!?!?!?!
Cable and this coaching staff are a bunch of dumbbells. If you really want to win games put somebody back there that can do something (DHB-if he catches, DMC, Tyvon Branch are prime candidates).
Tyvon and DMC were kickoff returns in college.
December 3rd, 2009 at 9:38 pm
The Steelers don’t need to know who the running back is because they know how to tackle and fill gaps.
December 3rd, 2009 at 9:41 pm
In my opinion, you should ALWAYS have a return specialist on the team like Justin Miller was. Its one guy on a 53 man roster and its an important position. Miller had 2 freakin TD’s last year which is as many touchdowns as Jamarcus Russell had this season altogether. Desmond Howard and Devin Hester were very important to their teams, you should always have a great returner instead of holding a hurt player like Miller. Retarded.
December 3rd, 2009 at 9:41 pm
I didn’t like that pick to start with. I’m always leey of players who are team mates with other first round picks.
He was in the same backfield as the Cowboys RB Felix Jones and Peyton Hillis. With those three runners, you knew at least one of them was going to be overrated.
There were a lot of red flags with McFadden that were overlooked. The skinny legs, unable to push the pile, straight line runner, went down too easily on first contact. He averaged about 3 yards less per carry than Jones. Not even mentioning that circus home life he had.
Now it’s come back to haunt the Raiders.
And McFadden was still waaaaaaay more highly rated than DHB.
December 3rd, 2009 at 9:42 pm
This team is lost. Its a travesty. So much talent going nowhere under this coaching regime. At least last year with Kiffin you was seeing much progress.
Russell regress, JLH regress, DMC regress, Bush wasted, DHB can’t get out the parking lot. Just a waste.
I’ve obviously had enough of this product or lack thereof.
December 3rd, 2009 at 9:43 pm
GO SHARKS!
December 3rd, 2009 at 9:44 pm
Week 13 and you still can’t name a starting RB.
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It’s bewildering aint it?
December 3rd, 2009 at 9:44 pm
Having a FB returning kicks is comical. It’s like giving up before you even recieve the ball.
December 3rd, 2009 at 9:45 pm
31,087 petitions signed and validated
December 3rd, 2009 at 9:48 pm
I guess Russell returning kicks just means that Gallery’s leg is still not 100% yet. Otherwise Cable would get him to do it.
December 3rd, 2009 at 9:50 pm
Not disclosing the starting RB to Pittsburgh is like not telling your dinner guests what type of lamb you’re serving.
December 3rd, 2009 at 9:50 pm
Well, Gnite fellas.
Priest, the coast is clear, I’m gone, you can quit hiding.
December 3rd, 2009 at 9:52 pm
Dennis Dixon is a lifelong Raiders fan who would have loved to play for the Raiders but Al Davis drafted some nobody in the 7th round who got cut right away over Dixon. Just another small reason we completely suck.
December 3rd, 2009 at 9:57 pm
I even think Cable has lost confidence in himself. The decisions being made now are just dumbfounded. FB returning kicks. Gradstinky starting at QB. Still no starting/feature RB in the 13th week of the season. What a joke.
All jokes aside I think this is a young team thats anxious to win and CAN win. They particularly lack the coaching to get them there.
Look at what Ken Wisenhunt has done with the Cards – same situation …talent everywhere but couldn’t win.
December 3rd, 2009 at 10:10 pm
This Sharks game is nerve racking.
December 3rd, 2009 at 10:10 pm
we all know we are getting a new coach next year.
However, without changes in the business philosophy, it will just be more of the same.
Too bad Al can’t just sell the team and finish out his years watching games from the skybox.
December 3rd, 2009 at 10:15 pm
Minnesota Vikings star running back Adrian Peterson could lose his driver’s license after police clocked him driving at 109 mph — nearly twice the posted speed limit — on a suburban Minneapolis highway last weekend.
December 3rd, 2009 at 10:23 pm
Terrapin Says:…
Look at what Ken Wisenhunt has done with the Cards – same situation …talent everywhere but couldn’t win.
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Whisenhunt refused the Raider’s request for an interview.
I guess he is a smart coach.
December 3rd, 2009 at 10:28 pm
Boy! way to go guy’s you’ll have your way any day now. New GM immediate SB. Al davis gone immediate SB.
Why haven’t all the other teams thought of that?
How many petitions signed and validated? when do you get to 1 million? Why not just go in there drag him out kicking and screaming?
Without question the dumbest thing I’ve ever heard.
December 3rd, 2009 at 10:29 pm
Ken Whisenhunt, spent half a day interviewing.
December 3rd, 2009 at 10:31 pm
At least the LA Clipper fans have a clue, they know their place. Their just fans.
December 3rd, 2009 at 10:38 pm
“Last year, Davis spoke with Louisville coach Bobby Petrino and Steelers offensive coordinator Ken Whisenhunt long before he got to Shell. Whisenhunt was so enthralled he refused to come back for a second interview and Petrino left the Bay area thinking Louisville looked pretty good by comparison. It took Davis nearly six weeks to hire Shell after firing Turner, by which time most of the top assistant coaches on the market had been hired.”
December 3rd, 2009 at 10:41 pm
Oh! i thought you said he NEVER interviewed. My bad!!
December 3rd, 2009 at 10:47 pm
Either way, for a person to refuse a chance at an NFL head coaching position…that says a lot.
December 3rd, 2009 at 10:52 pm
# primussuxxx Says:
December 3rd, 2009 at 8:43 pm
Amy Trask handles litigation for the raiders, and has for quite some time. hence, she is Al’s pitbull. damn guys, it is not rocket science. Who do you think is behind Ratnahan not getting his money when iot was recently settled, maybe about 2 years ago. also, who do you think is behind handling the kiffin situation so he does not get paid. do you actually think Al is laying out the legal groundwork for kiffin not to get paid? Wake up call.
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Dude, you are so confused. Handles WHAT litigation? In all of Al’s court appearances, Amy was no where to be found. She’s NOT the team attorney, nor is she Al’s.
Where was amy during all of the Cable/Napa dealings? No where..not one single comment to any reporters.
The Kiffin lawsuit? Find me ONE comment from Amy regarding that..you won’t because you can’t.
You don’t follow the Raiders much if you think Amy’s the talking heads. Al has spent over 50 million to lawyers to go into court over all of his silly lawsuits, (and will go WAY UP with Kiffin and Randy)and none of them are named Amy.
sorry to burst your bubble
December 3rd, 2009 at 10:55 pm
# priesttj Says:
December 3rd, 2009 at 10:28 pm
Boy! way to go guy’s you’ll have your way any day now. New GM immediate SB. Al davis gone immediate SB.
Why haven’t all the other teams thought of that?
How many petitions signed and validated? when do you get to 1 million? Why not just go in there drag him out kicking and screaming?
Without question the dumbest thing I’ve ever heard.
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Question is …have you been a spineless worm your whole life?
Yeah, yeah, we know..just sit there and take it..just accept whatever comes your way…after all, it’s easier that way, right?
Watch others do things..and complain that they’re wasting their time.
Watch others succeed, while complaining that you could have done the same thing..but choose not to.
People protest because it’s THEIR RIGHT.
And other people lay down like sheep, because it’s also YOUR right.
good job at perfecting the sheep bit.
December 3rd, 2009 at 11:02 pm
How do you know he refused? because you read it? lol
There are 1,000 coaches out there and only 32 jobs. Just how worried do you really think Mr Davis is about getting a competent coach? There are 93 division I HC’s and even more dividin II. There are 230 HC’s and coordinators in the NFL.
There are only 32 HCing jobs on the planet in this league. The chance of a qualified coach ever getting a chance at one even a bad one is slim and none. If Mr davis laid out 35-50 million to coach he would have whatever coach he wants by morning.
If he can get Richard Seymour to come here most any player wanting the spotlight would follow. I saw players leave the Patriots to go to the Browns. I saw players leave the Steelers to play for the Lions.
People have minds of their own and they’ll do whatever helps take care of their families……….period
December 3rd, 2009 at 11:03 pm
24
Please watch more college games then talk, Dunlap success this year starts with Spikes, they blitz Spikes to the LT which allows Dunlap to rush the guard one on one, he is rushing guards who are in college, LTs will kill him and eat him alive in the NFL. Remember Manny Lawson, when Williams was doubled he got most of the sacks, Spikes is the heart of that defense, he is talented but I would take Spikes b4 him
December 3rd, 2009 at 11:03 pm
# NorthernD Says:
December 3rd, 2009 at 10:38 pm
“Last year, Davis spoke with Louisville coach Bobby Petrino and Steelers offensive coordinator Ken Whisenhunt long before he got to Shell. Whisenhunt was so enthralled he refused to come back for a second interview and Petrino left the Bay area thinking Louisville looked pretty good by comparison. It took Davis nearly six weeks to hire Shell after firing Turner, by which time most of the top assistant coaches on the market had been hired.”
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Don’t forget Sarkisian turned down the Raider job in ‘07.
Mike Martz, after being interviewed, had his agent call Al before Martz even got to the airport to tell him “thanks, but no thanks. Don’t even bother drawing up an offer”..
And Kiffin? He got the job because Pete Carroll ALSO turned down the raiders HC job.
Hell, Kiffin came up and interviewed with Al as offensive coordinator, NOT HEAD COACH. He was following Carroll..after Carroll turned it down, Al called in Kiffin.
I imagine Kiffin thought he was being called in for a followup interview as OC, instead he GETS OFFERED THE HC JOB? lol..and everyone wonders why things are so backasswards in Oakland?
the list is LONG on those who just would rather avoid all the drama that goes along with Geritol Al.
December 3rd, 2009 at 11:07 pm
# priesttj Says:
December 3rd, 2009 at 11:02 pm
How do you know he refused? because you read it? lol
There are 1,000 coaches out there and only 32 jobs. Just how worried do you really think Mr Davis is about getting a competent coach? There are 93 division I HC’s and even more dividin II. There are 230 HC’s and coordinators in the NFL.
There are only 32 HCing jobs on the planet in this league. The chance of a qualified coach ever getting a chance at one even a bad one is slim and none. If Mr davis laid out 35-50 million to coach he would have whatever coach he wants by morning.
If he can get Richard Seymour to come here most any player wanting the spotlight would follow. I saw players leave the Patriots to go to the Browns. I saw players leave the Steelers to play for the Lions.
People have minds of their own and they’ll do whatever helps take care of their families……….period
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Oh shut up, old man.
Al DIDN’T get Seymour to come, you sorry fool. Seymour HAD NO CHOICE BUT TO COME..do you follow football at all? Seymour would have sat out, lost his pay, and STILL would have had to complete a year in Oakland to get his FA. Geez..no wonder you get picked on.
Priest: “that Richochet guy scares me. He keeps torching me like I’m defenseless. I’m going to avoid him at all cost..I didn’t fare that well last time”
Richochet: I know, peanut,…lol..I know.
December 3rd, 2009 at 11:07 pm
Hell, John Madden was a LBer coach before he was made HC. Finding a com[etent coach is the very least Of his worries, finding a cach he wants to work with narrows it down.
Jack Del Rio would come here in 2 seconds if Mr Davis called and so would Herm Edwards and Bill Romonowski and several other ex-Raiders if he called. Do you really think he’s worried about where the next coach will come from. There are hoping and praying Cable gets fired so they have a chance. I know several ex-players and coaches ready and willing.
December 3rd, 2009 at 11:10 pm
priesttj Says:
December 3rd, 2009 at 11:02 pm
How do you know he refused? because you read it? lol
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Saw the comments come out of numerous mouths, including Martz, a few times, both when it happened, and when he took the OC with the Niners..Saunders, Whiz..Carroll…all stated FROM THEIR MOUTH that they turned it down.
Pretty easy to figure out that either ALL are lying..or..gosh..maybe they’re all telling the truth? And maybe?? JUST MAYBE AL IS A COMPLETE A HOLE LIKE EVERYONE SAYS???
*gasp*…can it be true? lol…
December 3rd, 2009 at 11:10 pm
Richochet Says:
December 3rd, 2009 at 11:03 pm
# NorthernD Says:
December 3rd, 2009 at 10:38 pm
“Last year, Davis spoke with Louisville coach Bobby Petrino and Steelers offensive coordinator Ken Whisenhunt long before he got to Shell. Whisenhunt was so enthralled he refused to come back for a second interview and Petrino left the Bay area thinking Louisville looked pretty good by comparison. It took Davis nearly six weeks to hire Shell after firing Turner, by which time most of the top assistant coaches on the market had been hired.”
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Don’t forget Sarkisian turned down the Raider job in ‘07.
Mike Martz, after being interviewed, had his agent call Al before Martz even got to the airport to tell him “thanks, but no thanks. Don’t even bother drawing up an offer”..
And Kiffin? He got the job because Pete Carroll ALSO turned down the raiders HC job.
Hell, Kiffin came up and interviewed with Al as offensive coordinator, NOT HEAD COACH. He was following Carroll..after Carroll turned it down, Al called in Kiffin.
I imagine Kiffin thought he was being called in for a followup interview as OC, instead he GETS OFFERED THE HC JOB? lol..and everyone wonders why things are so backasswards in Oakland?
the list is LONG on those who just would rather avoid all the drama that goes along with Geritol Al.
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I’m sure there’s a bunch who weren’t even contacted or mentioned, because they already knew what their answer would be…
December 3rd, 2009 at 11:13 pm
Hell YES Al is worried about where his next coach is coming from.
HE WAITED UNTIL AFTER THE SUPER BOWL to get interviews..he got turned down..and he was stuck hiring Cable. HE HAD NO CHOICE..there was nobody.
Hell, he even hired the assts..while waiting to see if any coaches from the SB team were interested..and THEN he hired Cable.
Romo? WTF?? Romo has about as much control as a rabid pitbull..silly comment, Romo, lol…geez.
December 3rd, 2009 at 11:15 pm
# NorthernD Says:
December 3rd, 2009 at 11:10 pm
Richochet Says:
December 3rd, 2009 at 11:03 pm
the list is LONG on those who just would rather avoid all the drama that goes along with Geritol Al.
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I’m sure there’s a bunch who weren’t even contacted or mentioned, because they already knew what their answer would be…
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Exactly. And for those who turned it down? As you stated, their agents getting a call from Al, where the agent gets back to Al and says ‘not interested”..they’re not going to go public with that.
Sends out a bad signal to maybe another prospective future boss down the line, so the wise, PR move says “decline privately”, which is what most do.
December 3rd, 2009 at 11:16 pm
priesttj Says:
December 3rd, 2009 at 11:02 pm
How do you know he refused? because you read it? lol
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LOL?
Since when does quoting news sources begin humerous and easily discounted?
It’s a declaration of facts…not an opinion.
Of course I know he refused because I read it!
December 3rd, 2009 at 11:18 pm
So easy to send Priest packing, tail between legs.
Gets a couple of posters who school him, and he immediately rushes off for hot chocolate, lol.
December 3rd, 2009 at 11:19 pm
Wow – I always thought the top running teams lead the league….it’s a whole different ball game these days….
Check this out!
http://www.silverandblackpride.com/2009/11/29/1178418/the-oakland-raiders-case-for-the
December 3rd, 2009 at 11:19 pm
Richochet Says:
December 3rd, 2009 at 11:15 pm
# NorthernD Says:
December 3rd, 2009 at 11:10 pm
Richochet Says:
December 3rd, 2009 at 11:03 pm
the list is LONG on those who just would rather avoid all the drama that goes along with Geritol Al.
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I’m sure there’s a bunch who weren’t even contacted or mentioned, because they already knew what their answer would be…
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Exactly. And for those who turned it down? As you stated, their agents getting a call from Al, where the agent gets back to Al and says ‘not interested”..they’re not going to go public with that.
Sends out a bad signal to maybe another prospective future boss down the line, so the wise, PR move says “decline privately”, which is what most do.
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I heard the ESPN radio guy talking about that sort of thing regarding Notre Dame.
He said the only thing you ever hear about a coaching search is when they’ve hired someone. They never reveal who they interviewed, who didn’t get the job or who didnt’ want the job. That would reflect badly on the organization.
December 3rd, 2009 at 11:20 pm
And…yes, a lot of coaches turned us down. I think they would accept 1. If we hired a GM or 2. Included more “power” in the terms of the contract clearly.
Or….3. Gave someone a opportunity they’d never get anywhere else (i.e. Kiffin)
December 3rd, 2009 at 11:22 pm
raiderzmaverick Says:
December 3rd, 2009 at 11:20 pm
And…yes, a lot of coaches turned us down. I think they would accept 1. If we hired a GM or 2. Included more “power” in the terms of the contract clearly.
Or….3. Gave someone a opportunity they’d never get anywhere else (i.e. Kiffin)
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You could add Cable and White and Bugel to that list.
December 3rd, 2009 at 11:26 pm
You’re either stupid or just a flat out liar, Mike Martz never was never interbiewed for HC he was interviewed and wanted the OC job under HC Art Shell but Sheell didn’t wnat him.
If Mr Davis called Martz today and said I want ou to coach the Raiders he’d grow wings and fly here. Son I don’t think you know who you’re talking to.
Pete Carroll was never in consideration the only coach that turned down this job after being offered the job was Sean Payton and he did for Bill Parcells.
You can tell all the lies you want the only people gullible enough to believe them is yourself. Petrino could’ve had the job if he wanted it but Blank made a better offer. Petrino took it and screwed him over. Same as Kiffin did Al. Sarkisian doesn’t want to coach at the NFL level simple as that, he wants to stay at the collegiate level. I think it fits him better to be honest. Sarkisian and Mr Davis are very good friends he worked here for a year.
There’s nothing wrong with understanding what you as a person really want. Sarkisian knew he wasn’t ready and did the right thing. Kiffin told a bunch of lies and conned his way into the job. Bad decision by Mr Davis no doubt.Cable need sto to stay the HC but give up playcalling I think he is a god coach but is still learning. He has a chance to be decent to very good if given time. Fisher took a while to prove himself so did many others.
December 3rd, 2009 at 11:30 pm
# NorthernD Says:
December 3rd, 2009 at 11:19 pm
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I heard the ESPN radio guy talking about that sort of thing regarding Notre Dame.
He said the only thing you ever hear about a coaching search is when they’ve hired someone. They never reveal who they interviewed, who didn’t get the job or who didnt’ want the job. That would reflect badly on the organization.
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Also reflects badly on the applicant that was turned down.
Kind of tells other owners “well, so and so didn’t want him..I’m not taking him”
For a few years there, the “leaks” on who was coming in to be interviewed seemed to be coming from the Raiders..to create a buzz.
Now it’s gotten to be rather pathetic.
I mean, look at what happens. Players are stating “the owner calls on Friday, and tells us to scratch our defensive plan that we’ve been working on all week”..you have Norv stating “I’m benching Collins and putting in Tui” only to have Al over turn him. You have Kiffin stating he’s firing Ryan, only to have Al overturn him..you have Cable stating “Yes, Grab is starting next week as well. Yes, I cleared it”…
Unless you were a hasbeen who wants another shot, (Shell, Turner) or a rookie, like Gruden, White, Bugel, Kiffin, Cable was, you’re not going to take the job and deal with the above.
December 3rd, 2009 at 11:53 pm
I still believe the Raiders could bring in a high calibre coach. But the coach would have to sing the praises of the Raiders philosphy. Tell Al what he wants to hear first.
“Yeah, Al, I wanna bring back the vertical game, stretch the field, play man-to-man defence…”
If a coach came in and said that, they could land the job.
Then once they took over they could put in their own system. That would buy them a year to get results on the field. If they kept winning, then Al wouldn’t care.
Shanahan came in and installed his own offence but didn’t get results right away and he was gone.
Gruden came in and did the same, but at least he got to 8-8 after the first two years and it bought him some time.
First you have to tell Al what he wants to hear.
Then you have to win a few games, then you can run the system you want.
December 3rd, 2009 at 11:55 pm
And when you get right down to it, a Raider “head coach” is really only an offensive co-ordinator anyway…
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December 4th, 2009 at 5:12 am
Hopefully the Raider organization will get the message from the sign. How can Cable compare JBust to Rothlisberger? Not even close. JBust may have a million dollar arm, but he has a two cent head. We as Raider fans have to continue to suffer through JBust and DHB for seasons to come, it makes me want to throw up. I just cannot believe the direction this organization has gone. The Raiders, a once very proud organization, are compared with the Lions and Browns. I think the Lions are actually going in the right direction. It all starts with the QB. The Raiders need to draft another young QB with some smarts, someone that has desire and passion for the game. All of these ridiculous comparisons are a joke. To compare him with Alex Smith and Vince Young is also a joke. Those players are much more mobile than JBust. It is an accuracy issue. If we as Raider fans have to suffer with another season of JBust and DHB, I will not ever pay money to see those players on the field. So, I guess it will be until at least 2013 until the Raiders turn it around…
The sign says it all, FED UP RAIDER FANS!!!
December 4th, 2009 at 5:48 am
Good Morning Nation!!!
I think Cable said that his comparison to Russell was based on size…
Oh well…last time the Steelers won a SB, the next year we beat them…with 16 yards net passing!
IDK…Pitt needs to keep pace. I don’t think they will let Tomlin down. What did he say? Unleash Hell!!!? Oh boy, it will be a long day! But, lets go Raiders!!!
December 4th, 2009 at 5:52 am
Priest: Good Post! We need continuity! The reason the Bengals are doing well this year…despite Palmer being healthy…is continuity at HC! Geez…you think Al woul dknow that, but he has grown impatient and wants to win now!
December 4th, 2009 at 6:03 am
Wait? Carroll interviewed for the HC position? Wasn’t it Sarkisian? Just checking…
December 4th, 2009 at 7:21 am
The best thing that could happen to the Raiders is Al Davis either dies or sells the team. Unitl then we will continue to enjoy beating on you guys. I believe that Nhamdi would be a great offseason pickup for us. So go beat your wives and yourselves and pray for a gift from the football gods, or in that case, god himself.
RDRHTR
GO BRONCOS!!!!!!!!!!!!!
December 4th, 2009 at 7:28 am
Hey Russell, I hear the Biggest Loser is looking for Celebs for next season!!! Maybe you and your coach could team up with the Kansas coach and join the show! While you are gone we will be more than happy to send over Chris Simms to play in your spot. hahahahahah
GO BRONCOS!!!!!!!
December 4th, 2009 at 7:36 am
Tom Cable isn’t going anywhere! Al is responsible for developing Cable as Cable is to the players. Now, if Cable is unable to, only Raider insiders would know this, he should lose his job. I don’t believe Cable has been given sufficient time as HC to make any determination on his future.
December 4th, 2009 at 10:35 am
In preparation for Pittsburgh this week, Tom Cable decided to meet up with Art Shell. Since Shell was the last head coach of the Raiders to beat the Steelers, Cable sought his counsel.
Through anonymous sources, JBB was able to attain a transcript of their conversation.
Tom Cable: Coach Shell, thanks for taking the time to meet with me.
Art Shell: Anything to help the Raiders beat those Steelers!
TC: That’s the spirit!
AS: So, what can I do for you?
TC: Well, back in ’06 you were in the same boat I’m currently in while preparing for the Steelers
AS: Yep.
TC: The Steelers were defending Super Bowl champs then just like they are now.
AS: Yep.
TC: You were a lame duck coach then just as I am now.
AS: Yep.
TC: Your offense then was as bad as mine is now.
AS: Time out, Cable. We were scoring in double digits at least.
TC: My apologies. My point is that you were able to beat the Steelers without any help from the offense. How did you do it?
AS: Well, as I recall it…Ben Roethlisberger pretty much gifted us that win by throwing two pick sixes; one to Nnamdi and the other to Chris Carr.
TC: So much for that. Nobody throws at Nnamdi anymore and Chris Carr is gone.
AS: Well, not all is lost. You’ve got more talent on offense than we did. Surely you can get at least one TD out of your unit, right?
TC: Ugghhh…maybe…I mean…
AS: Come on Cable! You’ve got Janikowski. If you can’t get across midfield just start lining up 70-yard field goals. It will save you the time cause if he misses it gives Pittsburgh a shorter field to work with. Which means you’ll get the ball back quicker.
TC: Wow! That’s genius.
AS: If nothing else, at the very least you can just blame your offensive coordinator. I had Tom Walsh ten years removed from the NFL and one month removed from running a bed and breakfast in Idaho. Who is the numskull calling your plays?
TC: Actually…I’m the play caller…
AS: Oh…I hear Roethlisbereger didn’t play last week. Maybe he’ll be out this week too.
TC: They’re saying he’s going to play.
AS: Oh…well…
TC: Some help you are, Shell.
AS: Hey, at least we won back-to-back games in 2006.
TC: Too bad those were the only games you won all year! I’ve already got three wins this year. Suck it!
AS: If it wasn’t for me you’d never have landed JaMarcus Russell with the number one pick.
TC: Is that sarcasm? Very funny, Shell. This is the most emotion you’ve ever shown.
AS: Ask your mom how much emotion I show.
TC: Sure you wanna go there?
AS: Oh, I’m there already. You wanna join me, sweetheart.
TC: Easy, Shell. Judging by that 1993 Raiders’ Starter jacket you’re sporting, I’m guessing you don’t keep up on current affairs. Let’s just say that the last guy who talked to me like that couldn’t yawn without crying after I got done with him.
AS: Let me tell you something, son. This ain’t no Napa Marriott and I’m not going out like Randy Hanson on some phantom sucker punch.
TC: Make your move then…
(Cable lunges at Shell. The two men begin to roll around on the floor.)
TC: I’ll kill you! I’ll kill you!
(Al Davis enters the room.)
Al Davis: What the hell? Not again, Cable!
(Cable jumps up helping Shell up as he stands)
TC: Coach Shell was just showing me some new…uh… blocking techniques.
AD: Save it for the police department, Cable.
AS: Ha! Ha! Ha!
AD: Ha! Ha! Ha!
TC: What’s so funny?
AS: He still doesn’t know, does he?
AD: No, this kid is slow to catch on. Look how long it took him to bench JaMarcus.
AS: Ha! Good point.
TC: Somebody like to tell me what’s going on here?
AS: Looks like you’ve got a winner here, Mr. Davis. My work is done.
(Art Shell leaves the room)
TC: Mr. Davis, what was that about?
AD: You poor boy. You just attacked an employee and told him you’d “kill him” and I got it all on hidden camera. I’m firing you for cause now! Gotcha!
TC: What? Coach Shell isn’t an employee any longer.
AD: Wrong! I hired him to be an offensive consultant. Congrats Cable, you just kissed away your contract.
(Al Davis walks out of the room laughing)
(Art Shell sneaks back into the room moments later)
AS: Sorry about that, Cable. Nothing personal, I just needed some money since Walsh laid me off from his bed and breakfast.
TC: Why you…I should just slap you around like some cheap whore.
AS: So, you’ve slapped a woman before?
TC: Wait…I’m not falling for that…
AS: Sorry, Davis said he’d pay me double if I got you to admit to that ESPN report being true.
TC: You’ve done enough! Why don’t you just get out of here now?
AS: Sorry again, man. Look, you want to know how to beat the Steelers?
TC: You serious?
AS: It’s the least I can do.
TC: I’m all ears.
AS: Bench Darrius Heyward-Bey, start Javon Walker, tell John Marshall to blitz Big Ben like he did McNabb, lineup McFadden all over the field, use him in the Wild Hog offense as often as possible, get Zach Miller one-on-one with their slowest linebacker, tell Gradkowski to make two quick reads then take off if he doesn’t see anything, tell Morrison to stay at home and not over commit, and lastly, whatever you do don’t under any circumstances call a fake field goal.
TC: Thanks, Shell! I’m never going to live down that fake field goal.
(Al Davis re-enters the room)
AD: What the hell, Shell? You just compromised the entire operation. Now I’m going to have to fire you for cause too.
AS: What ‘cause’ do you have?
AD: ‘Cause’ you’re nuts. What kind of a stupid gameplan is that? Blitz? Are you serious? Honestly Cable, if you do any of that stuff Shell said I’ll fire you for cause…again! Do you hear me?
December 4th, 2009 at 5:22 pm
At least with weis we would score some touchdowns!
December 4th, 2009 at 6:14 pm
I want to see McFadden returning the ball. Fug it, use him.
Get him the ball out side and in space too.
IF Gradkowski’s so much better then Russell, open the play book or is it others on the offense that are limited too? If not, bubble screen, flea flicker, reverse, hook and lateral OPEN IT UP!!!
What the h-ell have you got to lose?! Games?!~
December 4th, 2009 at 6:17 pm
RDRHTR Says:
December 4th, 2009 at 7:21 am
The best thing that could happen to the Raiders is Al Davis either dies or sells the team. Unitl then we will continue to enjoy beating on you guys. I believe that Nhamdi would be a great offseason pickup for us. So go beat your wives and yourselves and pray for a gift from the football gods, or in that case, god himself.
RDRHTR
GO BRONCOS!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Broncos?
Waiting for the wheels to fall off again. An injury here or there. teams have figured out your D can’t handle hurry up.
You’ll be lucky to make the playoffs and be one and done me lady. have to say, damm site better then the silver and bleech.
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