Looks like Ellis won’t play
By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Friday, December 4th, 2009 at 12:01 pm in Oakland Raiders.
Defensive end Greg Ellis, who joined his teammates at practice at the conclusion of warmups and drills Friday, did not participate and was listed as “doubtful,” meaning he probably won’t play against the Pittsburgh Steelers.
“(Ellis) made some improvement but has slowed down. So we’ll see,” coach Tom Cable said.
Nick Miller was listed as “out,” _ he’s now missed three-quarters of the season with a tibia fracture after making the 53-man roster as an undrafted free agent. Listed as “probable” were running back Justin Fargas (stinger), linebacker Isaiah Ekejiuba (knee) and linebacker David Nixon (kllness).
All three practiced without limitations.
The briefing session with Cable lasted all of 90 seconds, with the coach giving one-word answers and the questioners pretty much having asked during the week whatever they felt was pertinent to the game.
To summarize, Cable doesn’t know what the weather is like in Pittsburgh and hasn’t checked, nor has he looked back at the 2006 game at the Coliseum when the Raiders intercepted Ben Roethlisberger four times. He feels good about the depth behind Ellis with rookie Matt Shaughnessy and third-year end Jay Richardson.
People were already beginning to board busses headed to the airport as Cable was finishing up.
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December 4th, 2009 at 12:02 pm
vegas raider Says:
December 4th, 2009 at 12:02 pm
The reason we can’t give any back 20 carries, is that they either ask out of the game, get hurt or fumble.
When you think you have 3 RB’s, you really don’t have any.
December 4th, 2009 at 12:03 pm
2nd
December 4th, 2009 at 12:04 pm
It’s freezing here in Sacramento. I can only imagine Pittsburgh. Can the Raiders just forfeit?
December 4th, 2009 at 12:06 pm
Wud up East Sac Raider?
December 4th, 2009 at 12:06 pm
It’s not like there’s anything to play for. If I’m on the Raiders and I’m locked in long term, (Nnamdi, Kelly)? I’m faking illness this week. I’m calling in. Pittsburgh? Screw that.
December 4th, 2009 at 12:07 pm
J Street near Sac State, homie. You still in Southside?
December 4th, 2009 at 12:08 pm
jhill Says:
December 4th, 2009 at 12:05 pm
DirtyRaccoon Says:
December 4th, 2009 at 11:56 am
What up J.
I’m just suffering through another RAIDER season.
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That’s right big dogg! But at least you’re still here!
December 4th, 2009 at 12:08 pm
You know it man! 24 baby.
December 4th, 2009 at 12:10 pm
Hey, Madden. Remember we play pretty good in cold weather.
December 4th, 2009 at 12:10 pm
Damn. How’s everything going out there? Better? Natomas seems to be in the news a lot these days. Highlands. Everybody keeping their cool in Meadowview?
December 4th, 2009 at 12:10 pm
Anything is possible. LMAO
December 4th, 2009 at 12:12 pm
Who plays pretty good in cold weather?
December 4th, 2009 at 12:12 pm
J, I am a RAIDER for life…. and DEATH!
I still read the blog every chance I get, but I am always here in Spirit.
December 4th, 2009 at 12:12 pm
Isn’t the greyhound station on J street? Man that place was a dump.
December 4th, 2009 at 12:12 pm
Pittsburgh does. I know that.
December 4th, 2009 at 12:13 pm
Vegas,
It’s just makes no sense to me that Bush can’t go 5 carries without needing a breather. How is it that our team has ANY players that our out of shape?
How can guys who play PROFESSIONAL sports 8-10 hours a day be out of shape?
I makes NO fuggin sense, and how this is not being managed is beyond me. Why can’t there be mandatory workout schedules with the strength trainer. Weigh ins and significant fines for missing weight. Why is this so hard?
Cable has too many hats on, and can’t focus on the little things that add up.
December 4th, 2009 at 12:14 pm
I live completely at the other end of J st, Vegas. You’re thinking of downtown.
December 4th, 2009 at 12:14 pm
I wonder what Jadeadly will wear in Pittsburg, if he wears a beenie in 78 degree weather in Oakland?
December 4th, 2009 at 12:15 pm
MR, no, were not keepin cool in Meadowview, look at the Pocket, or Land Park news paper, these dudes from my hood are using those areas as thier personal playground…. Cars, House, Wife, it don’t matter, if it is in sight, they are takin it!
December 4th, 2009 at 12:16 pm
JaDeadly is no longer in our starting lineup. He’s irrelevant. Rather he wears his beanie or a giant mink coat, it will have no effect on the outcome of this game.
December 4th, 2009 at 12:17 pm
Sorry to be in you guys business, but where exactly is Meadowview loctaed at?
December 4th, 2009 at 12:17 pm
vegas raider Says:
December 4th, 2009 at 12:02 pm
The reason we can’t give any back 20 carries, is that they either ask out of the game, get hurt or fumble.
When you think you have 3 RB’s, you really don’t have any.
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Nah, the reason the backs don’t get carries is because management chooses not to.
They’re too busy developing the vertical game. lol.
December 4th, 2009 at 12:18 pm
vegas raider Says:
December 4th, 2009 at 12:12 pm
Isn’t the greyhound station on J street? Man that place was a dump.
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Yes, it is on J. Like M said down town. But YES it is comedy central most days, a complete freak show on Friday!
December 4th, 2009 at 12:18 pm
Sorry to hear that, Raccoon. I try to stay up on local news, and it just seems like most of the dust is being kicked up in the North these days. But South Sac is always crazy, everyone who knows this town knows that. Keep your head up and stay safe.
December 4th, 2009 at 12:19 pm
haven’t been to meadowview in years. down past luther burbank.
December 4th, 2009 at 12:22 pm
got cha. Thanx!
December 4th, 2009 at 12:29 pm
later fellas!
December 4th, 2009 at 12:30 pm
I hear ya, Raccoon. As long as you know you’re way around.
December 4th, 2009 at 12:36 pm
To be honest Raccoon,
I don’t do anything these days but hang out with the wife and kids. Play a little golf early in the mornings, but I rarely am out after dark. Nothing out there in them streets man. Just enjoy your family and friends, nothing else really matters, IMO!
December 4th, 2009 at 12:37 pm
JHill,
I think I am heading out your way after new years again on business. This time I will bring the sticks.
December 4th, 2009 at 12:44 pm
MR, money talks all else walks
December 4th, 2009 at 12:45 pm
JHill, nobody’s saying that it’s not everywhere. Why are you getting defensive? Do you hate Sacramento? We were just talking about Sacramento, because that’s where we’re from. Nobody said anything about Sacramento being harder than any other place, or anything being exclusive to Sacramento. Just talking facts about what goes on in Sacramento. Every one of your comments seems to be making the case that L.A. is harder than Sacramento. Man, everybody and their mother knows that.
December 4th, 2009 at 12:46 pm
vegas raider Says:
December 4th, 2009 at 12:37 pm
JHill,
I think I am heading out your way after new years again on business. This time I will bring the sticks.
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That’s what I’m talking about. Shot 81 last weekend, and of course I think I left about 10 shots out there, lol!
December 4th, 2009 at 12:47 pm
Captain Black, that’s true. But in the gang culture, you rarely, rarely see guys killing their fellow gang members. In Oakland and in the bay, it seems as if everyone is fair game. Everyone out for themselves, with small crews that look out for each other.
December 4th, 2009 at 12:48 pm
DMAC Says:
December 4th, 2009 at 12:05 pm
I wonder what the Saints would look like with our 3 RB’s being utilized?
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Possibly better than they look now. I like our 3 RBs over theirs. The difference is they have Drew Brees at QB and probably the best offensive mind in the league in Sean Payton calling the plays, plus a much better offensive line.
If you ask me …
McFadden > R. Bush
M. Bush > Thomas
Fargas > Bell
December 4th, 2009 at 12:58 pm
Vegas Raider, the rich take care of each other with everyone’s tax dollars. Is that fair?
December 4th, 2009 at 1:35 pm
Be back in a few hours …
December 4th, 2009 at 1:36 pm
So….how about them Raiddeerrs!!!
December 4th, 2009 at 1:38 pm
i think the raiders need to elect a new owner.
December 4th, 2009 at 1:41 pm
jhill Says:
December 4th, 2009 at 1:27 pm
Sorry folks about getting off of football talk …
Don’t know how I got sucked into that.
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I apologize all. I was just sayin hi to a fellow hoodster, who keeps his finger on the goings on the my hood.
December 4th, 2009 at 1:42 pm
HIghland Park?? Real.. I’m from there!!
December 4th, 2009 at 1:46 pm
C’mon man!!
December 4th, 2009 at 1:46 pm
r8eray Says:
December 4th, 2009 at 1:36 pm
So….how about them Raiddeerrs!!!
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R u serious? First of all we ain’t the cowgirls. And secondly, what about them? Ya got any cures? Ya got some advice for our lord Big Al? You gonna tell us how it should be? Who should start, who should sit..
No I got it, lets talk about somthin that has “potential”! How about who Al will pick with the 4th pick in the 2010 NFL draft?
December 4th, 2009 at 1:47 pm
you have the mental capacity of a 10 year old MR, which explains why you are who u are. you may go now
December 4th, 2009 at 1:48 pm
r8eray Says:
December 4th, 2009 at 1:42 pm
HIghland Park?? Real.. I’m from there!!
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Nobody asked were yer from hommie.
December 4th, 2009 at 1:49 pm
we can chat about football, ellis won’t play which will mean that the steelers will win 38-14, instead of 31-14.
December 4th, 2009 at 1:52 pm
manassamauler Says:
December 4th, 2009 at 1:49 pm
we can chat about football, ellis won’t play which will mean that the steelers will win 38-14, instead of 31-14
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We might not score 14.. maybe Jano X4 and a Mike M safety.
December 4th, 2009 at 2:02 pm
Hey Raccoon,
Tha Raiidderrss!!
Is that better?
December 4th, 2009 at 2:21 pm
A little help please? …
I’m in a fantasy league and I’ve got a playoff spot on the line this week. I’m pretty good at every position but RB. At QB I’ve got Aaron Rodgers. WRs- Miles Austin, Calvin Johnson, Giants’ Steve Smith, Hines Ward. TE- Vernon Davis & Zach Miller. K- Carney & Seabass. D- Steelers & Chargers. But since Ronnie Brown went down my RBs are garbage. I’m going to take a flier on Jerious Norwood this week since I’ve always loved his talent and big play ability and Turner is out for Atlanta. But which one would you guys start out of these 3:
- Darren McFadden at Steelers
- Larry Johnson vs. Lions (but Cedric Benson is back)
- Jonathan Stewart at Bucs (he is still banged up and Williams gets more carries)
It is a point per reception league so McFadden should definitely do more in the receiving game than those other guys. If I knew he was going to get 15-20 touches I’d say screw it and hope McFadden gets 5 catches and breaks off a long play.
December 4th, 2009 at 2:25 pm
Ryan moats is or should be availabe in most leagues.
He plays for the Texans, Slayton is out for this game.
December 4th, 2009 at 2:46 pm
Man Ass, you obviously don’t watch Beck….or listen to Limbaugh. Silence is golden
December 4th, 2009 at 3:00 pm
I would go with LJ.
The Bengals can afford to ease CB back into the line up and keep him less banged up for the playoffs.
I bet they run LJ hard and he wants a contract for next year.
December 4th, 2009 at 3:55 pm
“Using unnamed sources is never ideal, but sometimes necessary. The key is being fairly certain the unnamed source isn’t using anonymity to further an agenda or take a cheap shot, as opposed to giving an honest opinion which helps enlighten an issue.”
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I wish ALL of your fellow writers would pay heed to this basic truth. So much spin nowdays and “blogger” journalists.
You rawk Jerry. Appreciate the work buddy.
Have a good night!
December 4th, 2009 at 3:59 pm
[...] The Oakland Tribune is reporting that Raiders defensive end Greg Ellis is doubtful to play at Pittsburgh on Sunday. [...]
December 4th, 2009 at 3:59 pm
Yeh I love all of you guys wanting to talk football after you get your last off topic words in. Keep proving how dumb Raider fans are.
December 4th, 2009 at 4:00 pm
[...] The Oakland Tribune is reporting that Raiders defensive end Greg Ellis is doubtful to play at Pittsburgh on Sunday. [...]
December 4th, 2009 at 4:01 pm
Allow Darrius Wayward-Hands to return kick-offs and Darren McFadetoblack to return punts on Sunday. Most likely all will be fumbled, but Lloyd’s of London policies against catastrophic injuries might come into play.
The Polish Pop-gun is gonna take a beating and when he screams “Uncle!” it’ll be time to unleash the Bayou Beast, beanie and all.
Go Raiders!
December 4th, 2009 at 4:01 pm
Fox News admits they’re a conservative network. Anybody who gets their information from a source that admits they’re biased? You have to be eating those retard cookies.
December 4th, 2009 at 4:05 pm
MR, PBS, NPR? You are full of shyte! But you know that, blogger!
December 4th, 2009 at 4:06 pm
What is a conservative network? MR, you are a fool. Ahhh, but you know that. Day long Blogger
December 4th, 2009 at 4:08 pm
MR posts on these boards daily. A recipient of Obama handouts. Pick up a shovel and close your hand to GOVERNMENT aid. “Ask not what your country can do for you, but what you can do for your country.”
December 4th, 2009 at 4:13 pm
CaptainBlack Says:
December 4th, 2009 at 4:06 pm
What is a conservative network?
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Lying asszed Fox News, that’s who.
December 4th, 2009 at 4:23 pm
Gentlemen, ladies,
no matter what nobody doesn’t say, the only seemingly honest elected governmental representative this Etats-Unis has to offer is Oaktown’s own Barbara Lee. She called out the Bushies on their idiotic war policies and now she’s willing to call out her favored Obamarama on his idiotic war policy in Afghanistan. Kudos to her, the one and only.
December 4th, 2009 at 4:27 pm
DAILY REMINDER
Be grateful if you dont have to live with someone who spends all their time hating on one thing or another.
December 4th, 2009 at 4:31 pm
The new President sure does sound like the old President when it comes to
WAR!
What is it good for?
Absolutely nothing!
Right down to “the surge” being an effective weapon of war or of democracy making or of oil protecting, or of peace keeping or of whatever it is they are doing in the Middle East.
December 4th, 2009 at 4:38 pm
Plunketthead,
War does keep the profit margin of the military/industrial complex moving.
December 4th, 2009 at 4:47 pm
Captain Black,
Amount of money I’ve received from Obama so far: $0
Now look up how much money went to banks and how much is about to go to private war industries, and tell me who the real welfare queens are, idiot.
December 4th, 2009 at 4:48 pm
Captain Black is another one of these punks who switched names after I owned his ass. Probably AIG.
December 4th, 2009 at 4:51 pm
Here’s some liberal propaganda, Captain Jack:
http://images.huffingtonpost.com/gen/123234/AL-DAVIS.jpg
December 4th, 2009 at 4:58 pm
People like Captain Jack and the guy who brags about mauling mens’ asses use a 1970s definition of welfare. They’re too stupid to know that since the 1980s, our tax dollars have been spent on the rich, not the poor. It’s one thing to be be misinformed or overwhelmed by the day’s news. But to be flat out stuck in the ’70s when it comes to fiscal politics? Scary. And to think they have the gall to step up and talk politics. The poor guys just embarrass themselves.
December 4th, 2009 at 5:02 pm
A feeling of entitlement, it’s not happening for them, They get Angry.
December 4th, 2009 at 5:03 pm
Typical Liberal thinking. When you dont agree with the other point of view you call them liars.
Funny how FOX is killing MSNBC & CNN combined…lol
KKK Kell arent you too old to be this stupid?
# KoolKell Says:
December 4th, 2009 at 4:13 pm
CaptainBlack Says:
December 4th, 2009 at 4:06 pm
What is a conservative network?
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Lying asszed Fox News, that’s who.
December 4th, 2009 at 5:05 pm
Fox admits to being Conservative and CNN & MSNBC deny being liberal and you swallow that whole like a nitwit that you are.
Fox is no 1 for a reason..
# The Real MaddenRaider Says:
December 4th, 2009 at 4:01 pm
Fox News admits they’re a conservative network. Anybody who gets their information from a source that admits they’re biased? You have to be eating those retard cookies.
December 4th, 2009 at 5:07 pm
Brown
You’re terribly unhappy aren’t you?
Hey your life is in your hands. Quit blaming others for your misfortune. Instead review your own actions/inactions.
Then go sweep that trailer out.
December 4th, 2009 at 5:07 pm
Steelers coming up….I really don’t see a path to victory here…but then again I saw no hope against Philly.
This team is so badly broken that I don’t think anyone realizes how bad things really are.
No QB
No RB (Bush, Fargas and DMAC can’t seize the job)
WR (Schilens is all we got…need a WR)
No FB
No RT
No RG
No C
No MLB
No DT
No DT
No SLB
No WLB
FS (Huff WILL NOT GET $5MILLION)
No NB
This is possbily the worst team in the NFL going into 2010
Who we drafting? — The websites are saying some workout warrior OT (from Maryland no less) Bruce Campbell will be the Raider pick because of his 40x and measurables.
Have we hit rock bottom yet?
December 4th, 2009 at 5:07 pm
FYI…the GOVT has been sinking money into the “war on poverty” for decades. Its like throwing money into a toilet. Complete waste.
The rich are being sucked so dry they are leaving places like NY. But MR you keep sticking your head in the sand..
Drama Queen
December 4th, 2009 at 5:08 pm
Mostly sunny, high near 40*, S. winds 4-7 mph. Sunday in the Burgh.
December 4th, 2009 at 5:08 pm
KKK Kell, why do you pretend to know about people on the internet?
What a tool you are.
lol
December 4th, 2009 at 5:13 pm
SnB
The last time the Raiders won a game when the Temp was under 40, was in 04′
December 4th, 2009 at 5:14 pm
LOL. MB is bragging about his favorite cable news network leading OTHER cable news networks in ratings. He’s really made it in life.
December 4th, 2009 at 5:15 pm
That little QB in cold weather, yikes.
December 4th, 2009 at 5:16 pm
MB, again, Fox admits to being conservative, which in legal terms is considered evidence. After all,, they confess to it. Now, prove to me CNN and MSNBC are liberal.
December 4th, 2009 at 5:16 pm
That little QB in cold weather against the Steelers?, yikes.
December 4th, 2009 at 5:18 pm
The fact that the best Al Davis can do is Bruce Gradkowski shows why the billboard needed to go up.
December 4th, 2009 at 5:19 pm
MistaBrown, I’ll tell you the same thing I told Captain Jack,
Money I’ve gotten from Obama: $0
Money citizens in general have gotten from Obama: $0
Now, go look up how much Obama gave to banks, and how much he’s about to give to military contractors, and how much Bush has already given to all of the above, and tell me who the real socialists are. This is your homework for the day. It’s like school. You’re learning.
December 4th, 2009 at 5:21 pm
Money citizens in general have gotten from Obama: $0
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They got a Tax Cut, MR.
December 4th, 2009 at 5:22 pm
MistaBrown, btw, you never did tell me which Republican candidate, that’s considering running for president in ‘12, can beat Obama. Are you ready to man up and name someone, or do you still need time?
December 4th, 2009 at 5:23 pm
I know, Kell, I’m just trying to get it though his thick skull who the real government dependent, teet suckers are these days.
December 4th, 2009 at 5:24 pm
14 of 22 positions will need an upgrade or replacement next year
And with davis running the draft and free agency….just expect more players trying to cash that check
Does DAvis realize how much baffoonery he’s allowed
December 4th, 2009 at 5:25 pm
Bruce Gradkowski against the Steeler defense and Dom Capers.
Meanwhile, the Raiders are bringing Tom Cable and Al Davis’ antiquated system to Pittsburgh.
Good luck folks
December 4th, 2009 at 5:27 pm
# SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
“Does DAvis realize how much baffoonery he’s allowed”
…………
I don’t know. What do you think?
http://images.huffingtonpost.com/gen/123234/AL-DAVIS.jpg
December 4th, 2009 at 5:27 pm
General Manager X
Hires/Fires 5 Coaches in 5 years.
Question: Do you think General Manager X has a plan?
December 4th, 2009 at 5:49 pm
Forecast here is snow, 1/3″ in CT.
December 4th, 2009 at 5:54 pm
Pittsburgh forecast, snow showers Saturday.
Partly Sunny high of 40 degrees Sunday.
December 4th, 2009 at 6:02 pm
Hope so kell, storm is south to north, here, our D needs to stand up, we can change this!
December 4th, 2009 at 6:07 pm
Man, I’m telling you the Nikc Miller thing is fishy and its painfully obvious
December 4th, 2009 at 6:08 pm
Al Davis must be the most senile old fart in the world to not see what a mess he has created. I mean seriously, how f’d up does someone have to be to NOT see the dysfunction that runs rampant throughout the whole organization? LOL! If the old P.O.S. dznt die soon, this slide will reach epic status.
December 4th, 2009 at 6:14 pm
Dude, by Al keeping this that way, he holds control, do you get it?
December 4th, 2009 at 6:15 pm
I think about that too, Dude. How much worse can the Raiders get? Where’s the bottom?
December 4th, 2009 at 6:17 pm
Todd,
What?
“by Al keeping this that way” WTF???
December 4th, 2009 at 6:17 pm
Back to that ‘96 SI article I posted a few days ago, about Al Davis…just think, without those few Gruden years, how bad would the Raiders be now? In 1996, all of the same things were happening with the Raiders. Players coming out and talking of the chaos. It just seems like an earlier act of the same play. Just imagine if Al decides not to hire Gruden and goes with Bugel for another year, then brings back Shell, etc. No Gruden era. What do you guys think our all time record would be?
December 4th, 2009 at 6:18 pm
Los Raiders De Don Rober Says:
December 4th, 2009 at 6:07 pm
Man, I’m telling you the Nikc Miller thing is fishy and its painfully obvious
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What’s obvious? I think since Justin Miller, a proven returner was cut because Nick Miller showed a little flash in pre-season, Davis is protecting his rear.
December 4th, 2009 at 6:19 pm
MR, this game will be determined by oue D line that shows up, which one we don’t know, we will see on Sunday!
December 4th, 2009 at 6:22 pm
Dude, that is the platium way, called AL”’s way!
December 4th, 2009 at 6:25 pm
KoolKell Says:
December 4th, 2009 at 6:18 pm
Los Raiders De Don Rober Says:
December 4th, 2009 at 6:07 pm
Man, I’m telling you the Nikc Miller thing is fishy and its painfully obvious
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What’s obvious? I think since Justin Miller, a proven returner was cut because Nick Miller showed a little flash in pre-season, Davis is protecting his rear.
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Justin Miller was dumped AGAIN by the Jets after we dumped him. Not in the League far as I know. Was injured with turf toe or sumthing but looked horrible in coverage and belwo average on kicks, STILL…Gary Russell?!
For cripes sake use some of your speed! JLH is a joke back there this year, ditch him. Throw Javon Walker back there, Hiram Eugene, Tyvon Branch, McFadden, theres a bunch of guys who would seemingly do better.
December 4th, 2009 at 6:28 pm
Is it surprising that the Return game has gone to hell, since Al Davis cut Justin Miller in pre-season. Who btw returned 2 for TD’s last year.
Ahh, but the genius found Nick Miller, whom nobody else had the foresight to discover.
Just stupid, stupid, stupid.
December 4th, 2009 at 6:29 pm
Signed the papers on a new place tonight. 3br 2 bath brick home with fenced backyard and 2 car garage. Moving in Jan. 1. WOO-HOO!
Getting a blue doberman as a house warming gift. Picking it up from the breeder when we move in.
His name is Otto in honor of Jim Otto. Can’t wait!
December 4th, 2009 at 6:30 pm
Todd, this game will be decided by rather or not it’s canceled. If there’s a game, we’re losing.
December 4th, 2009 at 6:31 pm
Raider75, I bought Jim Otto himself to guard my house.
December 4th, 2009 at 6:31 pm
Davis’s system does and can work. Its the players who aren’t executing. GRANTED they are hamstrung by a singular system but if they do their jobs every day every play they should be in games because thier physical attributes can tip the scales BUT when your offense sucks and you’ve got guys who will take advantage of the rope given them things are going to fall by the way side.
Do I agree with Davis’s system?
NO!
Is it viable? Yes. If executed!
I think the Saints D “borrowing a little from all the top D’s of the last few years” obviously makes sense since combat demands the ability to adapt.
Davis’s way can succeed even today, but it makes things harder then it seem they need to be.
December 4th, 2009 at 6:33 pm
KoolKell Says:
December 4th, 2009 at 6:28 pm
Is it surprising that the Return game has gone to hell, since Al Davis cut Justin Miller in pre-season. Who btw returned 2 for TD’s last year.
Ahh, but the genius found Nick Miller, whom nobody else had the foresight to discover.
Just stupid, stupid, stupid.
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Justin Miller sucks.
Gary Russell’s worse. There are better kick return options.
December 4th, 2009 at 6:39 pm
Nnamdi, the jumbo set every down could work too, if you got the personnel. if you seriously set out to build a team that got 4 yards and a cloud of dust every down, and really got the best players to fit every role in that offense, you could win a super bowl. it’s just a stupid way to build a team in the modern day NFL. So is the vertical game. Al Davis’s system can work like you can hit the lotto. It’s not going to happen.
December 4th, 2009 at 6:40 pm
I am not gonna say we are gonna lose the pittsburgh game, but the chances are against us beating the super bowl champs, specially since the rest of their regular season schedule is pretty much a playoff schedule. any game they lose from here on out will make their chances of getting into the playoffs that much harder. i actually still go into each game thinking we can win. i know, dreamer.
December 4th, 2009 at 6:46 pm
Nnamdi21 Says:
Justin Miller sucks.
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Returned 2 TD’s last year, no? Have you had any production like that since?
December 4th, 2009 at 6:47 pm
MR, we never know which D will show up, sad, to O-75, good luck bro! WTG!
December 4th, 2009 at 6:52 pm
MR, we have a good chance here, injured QB, a BLITTZ unannouced, pound their QB into yesterday, we take their game away. You in?
December 4th, 2009 at 6:53 pm
No, I’m not in. I’m out. Steelers win. By at least 3 scores.
December 4th, 2009 at 6:54 pm
I honestly don’t think the Raiders are even trying to win games anymore at this point, Todd. Playing for the draft.
December 4th, 2009 at 6:56 pm
Sorry to hear that, I’m going with my team, they know whats up, I hope that they deliver! Ever loving the disfunctual, faithful fan!
December 4th, 2009 at 6:58 pm
J.P. Losman won a championship in the UFL, something he never came close to doing at Tulane or with the Buffalo Bills.
Now he’s trying to latch on to another team with a chance to win a title.
The Indianapolis Colts worked out Losman on Friday.
Backup quarterback Jim Sorgi has been bothered by a shoulder injury of late; the team also has rookie Curtis Painter on the roster.
It’s hard to think of two quarterbacks any different in playing style than Peyton Manning and J.P. Losman, but at least they share a knowledge of New Orleans watering holes.
December 4th, 2009 at 7:00 pm
Good analagoy PH, but where does that get us?
December 4th, 2009 at 7:00 pm
I’m going with my team, too, Todd. I’m rooting for Al Davis to retire, so my team can win again. You saw that billboard.
December 4th, 2009 at 7:03 pm
Al is in the molting stage right now, you saw the pic, We can only hope he is not at the Drafts, only hope!
December 4th, 2009 at 7:10 pm
MR, give us a bruising O-line to open up our QB and HB’s and we are gone. Sorry that the tapes don’t show this, average fans see this every week!
December 4th, 2009 at 7:22 pm
Out 4 the night, nite Raiders!
December 4th, 2009 at 7:30 pm
We just need McFadden to pull a Charlie Garner on Sunday.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CixSFswqFtE
December 4th, 2009 at 7:31 pm
[...] INSIDEBAYAREA.COM Analysis: Rookie Matt Shaughnessy will start in his place against [...]
December 4th, 2009 at 7:45 pm
#126… those were the days.
December 4th, 2009 at 7:57 pm
Just If Baby
December 4th, 2009 at 8:08 pm
Check this out. Never mind Gruden and Gannon.
Gruden and Jeff George, Baby!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5neY0ApMI4Y
December 4th, 2009 at 8:17 pm
This kind of shyt makes you start to support Al again. This hurts almost as bad as the Tuck job.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vt_293U_f7o
December 4th, 2009 at 8:48 pm
Hey NATION….
4eva says…
hey tell the guys at jerrys blog I am reading them every morning…just cant post 4now but I will be back.And let everyone know I was arguing with a guy named Charlie…lil koolkell had nothing 2do with it unless he the 1 that called on me
December 4th, 2009 at 8:52 pm
Cut n paste
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December 4th, 2009 at 9:09 pm
FREE 4EVA ..
December 4th, 2009 at 9:10 pm
Steelers coach Mike Tomlin peeled off a Gladiator reference, explaining that the team plans to “unleash hell” in December.
On Friday night, Steelers linebacker LaMarr Woodley explained the “unleash hell” remark to Todd Wright of Sporting News Radio.
Unfortunately, there will be no flaming arrows.
“I asked [Tomlin] that today in practice,” Woodley said, “what he meant by that. He said, ‘We’re not going to sit back and get hit in the mouth. We’re not going to be surprised by anything. We’re going to do the attacking. We’re going to throw the first punch. That’s what that means. We’re bringing it.’ He smiled about it [when I asked], but I wanted to know what did he mean by that, and he told me what it was.”
The Raiders likely will get a more direct explanation on Sunday.
December 4th, 2009 at 9:18 pm
Hey Real..who won that game?? That is worse then the tuck game!!
December 4th, 2009 at 9:35 pm
The cat is out the bag. This has got to be where Dakota gets his material.
Funny as Hell!
http://justblogbaby.com/2009/12/03/tom-cable-has-a-secret-meeting-with-art-shell/
December 4th, 2009 at 9:39 pm
eevening all
post #131
I was at that game. Brings back some memories of the night. It was at Husky stadium and I remember Gruden getting off the bus, his hair was slicked back man, dude looked like a 1920’s gangster, striped shirt with a tie and suspenders. Anyway, after the slide, Gruden went absolutely nuts. Was out at mid-field. Left the game wondering how is it possible to conspire such calls on the Raiders. Probably a team of officials watching every play just waiting to dig deep into the rule books. Anyway, I read the next day Al told Gruden not to get so upset, wasn’t good for his health or some damn thing like that.
December 4th, 2009 at 9:59 pm
The great Grads will unleash hell………..well maybe…
December 4th, 2009 at 10:05 pm
The “Great Gradkowski” will lead us to the promise land. His leadership is second to none. He exudes confidence and competitiveness. How did we ever underestimate his prowess. Who can withstand his attack on their defense.
Bowdown to the Great Gradkowski!!!
December 4th, 2009 at 10:05 pm
BHP,
BG is sorry, but JR is not doing enough to win the job! He needs to learn faster!
December 4th, 2009 at 10:06 pm
# KoolKell Says:
December 3rd, 2009 at 6:50 pm
More intriguingly, one multimillionaire sports figure who does not wish to be identified has several times over the past 18 months expressed an unwavering curiosity. A longtime fan of the team, he is displeased about its decline and, moreover, says he is in contact with one or more billionaires with a DEFINITE interest.
So the desire to buy is there. The money is there. A deal probably could be assembled and presented in a matter of weeks.
The biggest hang-ups, the only hang-ups, are stipulations regarding percentage and control.
-Monte Poole.
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Lets hope this Raider fans investor and his billionaire buddies convince Al they will invest only if a REAL GM/PERSONNEL MAN and a REAL Head Coach are hired.
Only way the stubborn old man will have a chance at seeing the Raiders WIN again before he dies.
December 4th, 2009 at 10:09 pm
BHP
Do You mean the Great White Hype?!
December 4th, 2009 at 10:11 pm
#131
Damn i just threw a chair across the room and its not even Sunday. The wife told me that i only have a 3 chair max per week. (The Bobby Knight Rule.)
December 4th, 2009 at 10:14 pm
# Dude Says:
December 4th, 2009 at 6:08 pm
Al Davis must be the most senile old fart in the world to not see what a mess he has created. I mean seriously, how f’d up does someone have to be to NOT see the dysfunction that runs rampant throughout the whole organization? LOL! If the old P.O.S. dznt die soon, this slide will reach epic status.
^^^^^^^^
Exactly!
December 4th, 2009 at 10:14 pm
I can’t help but think the Steelers are going to knock the living dog sheet out of the Raiders. One angry pissed-off theam fighting for the play-offs.
But how sweet a win could be. I’ll prepare for the worst and hope for the best.
December 4th, 2009 at 10:18 pm
It isn’t Obamas fault he is stuck with cleaning up Bush and Cheneys’ crappy mess!
December 4th, 2009 at 10:21 pm
Raider O, just having fun with it. Russell really needed to sit but it’s the way Cable handled it that I don’t like. My hpe is that Russell is doing what I’m hearing and will get much better. This organization desparately needs him to develope to get back on top.
December 4th, 2009 at 10:24 pm
Listen if you have any illusions that Grads can handle this blitz your dreaming. He’s as good as done, you can stick the proverbial fork in him.
December 4th, 2009 at 10:25 pm
JaBustus and DHB make Jeff George and James Jett look like world beaters.
December 4th, 2009 at 10:29 pm
You still upset that you looked like a total moron last night with your idiot claims that Martz NEVER INTERVIEWED FOR THE HEAD COACHING JOB, Priest?
Still sting a little bit?
It should, lol..you came across like a complete moron.
December 4th, 2009 at 10:29 pm
Well, both these young kids have more desire to get better in the pinky toe than both Jett and George had in thir cllective bodies IMO.
December 4th, 2009 at 10:33 pm
I like JR’s talent, but I’m not sure about DHB.
December 4th, 2009 at 10:42 pm
So is anyone around here going to have the decency to simply admit that they were wrong about crappin’ on Fargas all off-season long?
It’s a freakin’ joke man.
I like D-Mac & I like M. Bush. None of this is meant as hate towards those two youngsters.
But the play on the field never lies. And the bottom line is that Fargas has run with more power and SPEED than both of those guys. Yes, I said speed. All you cats who keep saying he’s slow are either blind or retarded.
He was hitting holes with more speed and more violence than either Bush or McFadden have all year long.
Hell, it’s easy to play arm-chair QB but I really wish we hadn’t bothered drafting either of those two kids and concentrated instead on the O-Line. We already had a damn good back on our roster and his name wasn’t Lamont Jordan.
I just don’t get it man. Most fans around the league would love a guy that ran like Fargas.
Around here, it seems like it’s all hate.
To each his own, as they say.
December 4th, 2009 at 10:43 pm
# priesttj Says:
December 3rd, 2009 at 11:26 pm
You’re either stupid or just a flat out liar, Mike Martz never was never interbiewed for HC he was interviewed and wanted the OC job under HC Art Shell but Sheell didn’t wnat him.
RICHOCHET: you Moron. Why do this to yourself? lol I heard it NUMEROUS TIMES ON SPORTSCASTs..ALSO saw him repeat it when he was hired with the Niners.
Here..fool..just a couple of MANY…
www DOT associatedcontent.com/article/115047/will_mike_martz_be_a_nfl_head_coach.html
QUOTE: “He almost didn’t coach at all this season after being fired by the St Louis Rams last season. He had an interview with the Oakland Raiders for their head coaching job after last season. He removed himself from consideration after the interview. He also was in a money dispute with the Lions before coming to contract terms for the offensive coordinator job.”
Here, FOOL..another comment of Martz coming in to INTERVIEW FOR THE HC JOB..NOT the OC job..geez.
www dot examiner dot com/x-514-Oakland-Raiders-Examiner~y2009m1d27-Silence-is-deafening-Oakland-Raiders-coaching-search-standing-still
QUOTE: “This is starting to look like a repeat of the disaster that was the 2006 coaching search. That year, reportedly the Raiders offered the job to University of Louisville’s Bobby Petrino only to have him turn it down. Other candidates including Mike Martz and James Lofton came in for interviews, but there was ambivilance from both sides.”
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You ever get tired of saying stupid crap?
December 4th, 2009 at 10:45 pm
# priesttj Says:
December 3rd, 2009 at 11:26 pm
If Mr Davis called Martz today and said I want ou to coach the Raiders he’d grow wings and fly here. Son I don’t think you know who you’re talking to.
RICHOCHET: Pops..check your meds. I clearly proved you wrong, above. Care for another handful of links as salt in the wound?
Martz, after talking to Al, where apparently Al and him clashed on who was going to be in charge, of what, will NEVER coach with the Raiders..hell..doesn’t matter who Al calls,..no one is answering.
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Pete Carroll was never in consideration the only coach that turned down this job after being offered the job was Sean Payton and he did for Bill Parcells.
RICHOCHET: *sigh*..if only you weren’t so easy, TJ, lol
Again, Kiffin was NOT interviewed for HC job..was interviewed as OC job. Al offered the job to Kiffin after Carroll turned him down.
Go read up, then come back and apologize.
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You can tell all the lies you want the only people gullible enough to believe them is yourself. Petrino could’ve had the job if he wanted it but Blank made a better offer. Petrino took it and screwed him over. Same as Kiffin did Al. Sarkisian doesn’t want to coach at the NFL level simple as that, he wants to stay at the collegiate level. I think it fits him better to be honest. Sarkisian and Mr Davis are very good friends he worked here for a year.
RICHOCHET: and YOU’RE an idiot. The topic de jour on Carroll’s book tour was what, exactly did he say to Sarkisian about Al Davis that made Sark turn Al down. Save that weak ass “didn’t want to coach at the NFL level”..IF HE DIDN’T WHY DID HE COME FOR AN INTERVIEW?
He just didn’t want to coach for the Raiders after he was clued in on how bad Al is to work for.
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There’s nothing wrong with understanding what you as a person really want. Sarkisian knew he wasn’t ready and did the right thing. Kiffin told a bunch of lies and conned his way into the job.
RICHOCHET: Wrong..Kiffin told lies? lol…WHAT??? what lies could he have possibly told? WELL..DON’T WEASEL OUT..are you saying Al Davis is stupid? Are you saying he’s lost it? Are you saying that a few simple well placed words will fool the almight great Al Davis? (many do say that, BTW)..IT’S AN INTERVIEW ON COACHING PHILOSOPHY..it’s hours of discussing game play, situations, etc..and what the coach would do at that moment. Gruden stated Al knows his stuff, and put him to the test..and that once he was convinced Gruden shared the same philosophy, and had what it takes, he offered him the job..ARE YOU SAYING THAT DIDN’T HAPPEN WITH KIFFIN? That “kiffin lied”? LMFAO..that was ignorant..borderline retarded that someone could “lie” and get a HC job..fool.
December 4th, 2009 at 10:47 pm
Well Raider O, DHB is about as raw as they come I remember when Cliff Branch was just like him. They wouldn’t even play Branch at home because we boooed him so much. DHB is better it this point than Branch was. Branch was clueless. DHB’s work ethic is his calling card if you’re willing to work you can get to be a good as you want to be with his unlimited talent he can be phenomenal in time. Russell’s skill-set is almost unmatched he’s just young and immature.
December 4th, 2009 at 10:47 pm
It’s why you have no credibility, priest..when you say stupid crap, that get’s thrown in your face, you tuck tail, and either hide, or leave.
I told you..don’t try and discuss the Raiders…stick to bingo.
December 4th, 2009 at 10:50 pm
So these are my thoughts on what the Raiders should do with Jamarcus:
1. On the one hand, it makes sense to throw him back in there, if only a bit better what we have in this kid by season’s end. I hate to go into next season with his status totally up in the air.
2. However, having said that and having pondered it some more, I think that would be too convenient for him. I want this kid to be hungry for success. I think he needs to earn his way back into the lineup. Even if he works hard behind the scenes in the coming weeks, it probably makes sense to sit him down until next training camp. That way, he really takes a heavy dose of humble pie and will fully realize that nothing’s gonna simply be handed to him. And if he still comes in to camp out of shape next year, then that’ll speak volumes. What I hope is that he comes in mad and eager to prove everyone wrong.
I really wanted to know those answers this year, and I’m pissed that we still don’t know.
I know it’s easy to say we already know, but, we don’t. The kid is still really, really young. He’s immature. There are plenty of immature people in this world who eventually meet their potential.
Let’s hope Jamarcus will be one of them.
December 4th, 2009 at 10:50 pm
In other words I would be very careful about dismissing either of them. To much raw talent.
December 4th, 2009 at 10:52 pm
Meant to say “if only to find out a bit more what we have in this kid by season’s end”. . . . .
December 4th, 2009 at 10:52 pm
Oh geez..there you go again with stupid crap.
Bey runs crap routes..DID IN COLLEGE.
Bey bobbles balls…DID IN COLLEGE.
Bey drops balls…DID IN COLLEGE.
He’s fast..THAT’S IT.
oh…so was RENALDO NEHIMIAH..fastest guy on the planet..but..like bey..SUCKED AT WR.
Russell skill-set is almost unmatched??
You idiot..do you even know what “skill-set” means?
It means the skills needed to accomplish a specified task or perform a given function.
Russell has SKILLS?
Damn Pops…see what I mean?
He has a strong arm…THAT’S IT.
You’re lost, lol…big time.
December 4th, 2009 at 10:55 pm
Russell is done.
He’ll never be a starting qb in the NFL, PERIOD.
He offers nothing..I can’t imagine any team except the raiders would even keep him as a backup.
Zero skills..no touch, no footwork, no reads, no pocket awareness, no leadership ability, no desire to work hard, no desire to be a leader, could care less about being in shape, takes no responsibility when he screws up, quick to blame others..he’s fat, lazy, and uninspired.
WHAT COACH IN THE NFL WANTS THAT ON THEIR ROSTER??
Russell will go down as the biggest bust in NFL history…that I would be money on.
December 4th, 2009 at 10:59 pm
S-n-S, right on! the upshot is just too HUGE to gamble that it won’t happen. You make absolutely sure he won’t turn out before you give up IMO. If Russell were to reach his potential he would be one the most dominant talents to grace this league. And he’s not nearly as far as people want to pretend. 2 years from now we could be one the best teams in Raider history if all this young talent starts to emerge. I know we’ve been saying this for a couple of years but that’s nothing in the grand scheme of things.
December 4th, 2009 at 11:00 pm
Love crapping down priests neck, knowing he wisely bows out, lol.
Hey priest? Why do you pretend to be “in the know”..with your “I talked to so and so”..when, in reality, you don’t barely follow the team??
How can ANY ONE WHO STATES WHAT YOU DO, not even know that Martz interviewed? Was a big deal, yet you say HE NEVER EVEN INTERVIEWED FOR HC..then..even bigger news was Martz letting the Raiders know he politely declines to even discuss an offer…saying “Not interested in the job. Thanks anyway”..and YOU DIDN’T KNOW ABOUT THAT?
So, either you’re a liar, or you’re really really old..and can’t remember things…
Don’t really want to know..having fun running both angles
December 4th, 2009 at 11:01 pm
Priesttj Says:
December 4th, 2009 at 10:47 pm
Well Raider O, DHB is about as raw as they come I remember when Cliff Branch was just like him. They wouldn’t even play Branch at home because we boooed him so much. DHB is better it this point than Branch was. Branch was clueless.
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Priesttj the Oracle, You’re such a fraud.
The difference between Bey & Branch is that Branch didn’t start until his 3rd year, when he caught 60 passes and went to the Pro Bowl. Branch started exactly 1 game until his 3rd year.
Gnite folks.
December 4th, 2009 at 11:01 pm
BHP,
According to Cable, DHB has a great work ethic! That will help him to develop his talent.
December 4th, 2009 at 11:03 pm
Potential? LMFAO..in other words..THE GUYS SUCKS.
Potential is NEVER used on a decent player…EVER.
It’s the underperforming.
It’s the players that some fool guaranteed was going to shine..and hasn’t..so that idiot now runs the “live up to his potential”.
December 4th, 2009 at 11:03 pm
S-n-S, IMO the difference between Grads and Russell at this point is miniscule. I really don’t see any upgrade at all in Grads and I’m being honest. It’s just that Russell should be a much better player than Grads that’s what’s disappointing.
December 4th, 2009 at 11:08 pm
Funny watching priest and smac hold hands.
The two guys who cry over Al.
Only two guys on the board who still think Al’s ‘got it’..who state “When Al wins the two SB’s, I’m going to be here rubbing it in your face”
The two guys who defend Al’s picks, lol
Look at you two morons, trying so desperately to justify Al picking Russell when everyone said not to..both of you dumb asses stating “Bey is going to be a stud”
You two sad sacks are about as pathetic as Al is..difference is you two love Al, and he wouldn’t give either of you wimps the time of day.
December 4th, 2009 at 11:12 pm
KK wether he started or nt is NOT the point airhead, the point is Branch was as bad and now is a HOF candidate. Get it.
So to dismiss DHB at this point could prove to a huge mistake.
December 4th, 2009 at 11:20 pm
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December 4th, 2009 at 11:48 pm
Priesttj:
No need to hate on Gradkowski. This isn’t some sort of of favoritism game.
I’ve always said, as a Raider fan – root for whoever’s on that field and hope that they succeed. Hell, I want Fargas as the starter, but, if D-Mac & Bush are tearing it up, then I’m rootin’ my ass off for them.
Just as I did with good’ol Rusty Hildger & the rest of the not-so-watchable poor excuses for QB’s we’ve had in the past. Watching that damn Marc Wilson was the most painful thing I had to do as a youngster. But he was a Raider. Period.
I actually hope that Gradkowski gives us even a semblance of the magic Gannon gave us. That way, he could be a legit starter next season while Jamarcus keeps on watching for a while.
Hell, look at Vince Young. And look at that pile of crap Alex Smith – I still think he sucks, but, he sucks a hell of a lot less than he used to. It only took him 5 years to have a complete good game, from beginning to end.
Better late than never, ey?
December 4th, 2009 at 11:51 pm
r8eray Says:
December 4th, 2009 at 9:18 pm
Hey Real..who won that game?? That is worse then the tuck game!!
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Seattle.
You know, the Raiders choked anyway because Waters still broke for that long TD run that would have put Sea in the lead. But that call was awful. Did you hear the commentators? Enberg and them? They couldn’t believe it. That was a bad call, even for a Raider game.
December 5th, 2009 at 3:45 am
FREE 4EVA.
December 5th, 2009 at 5:19 am
He will get his posting privs back.
I bet they make him take a week break.
He can always email Becker, claim long time, first time and Becker will reinstate him.
December 5th, 2009 at 5:37 am
jbecker@bayareanewsgroup.com
4eva email Jon
He will restore you to your proper place
December 5th, 2009 at 5:40 am
Tell him you are the union shift boss and you were at an I luv Oboma meeting, when a fight started with some teabaggers. Someone slipped some estacy in your beer while you were swinging a 2×4 at the teabaggers and you were out of your mind when you posted here, just like Tiger was when he totaled his Escalade.
December 5th, 2009 at 5:43 am
Tiger is too much.
More story is coming out.
His Mom and her mom both came out of their homes next door to Tigers to witness Tiger laying in the streets zonked out on prescription meds.
I bet he is mixing pain killers and muscle relaxers
Norcos & somas
Hillbilly herion
If my mom and mom in law lived next door to me I would get high too.
December 5th, 2009 at 5:55 am
Here is a website I found with easy to find info on any game, any year, any team, any player.
http://www.pro-football-reference.com/boxscores/198612140ram.htm
I have not been to many games but they few I have have been stupendous.
Rams were 10-4 entering the game
Marino threw for 5 TD’s
Dickerson ran for over 100.
Marino to Mark Duper TD wins it in overtime
Chrissy Everett played great.
But what I remember most is how rowdy LA fans were.
A couple fistfights in the endzone right in front of me. The Fin fans were under constant “assault” in the last quarter and OT.
I never saw anything even close to it at Raider games in LA. (never been to Oakland game)
December 5th, 2009 at 5:58 am
In some of the morning papers over here it’s “alleging” that Tiger has up to 8 women around the world-a women in every golf course-thing going on.
December 5th, 2009 at 6:00 am
Take a look at this page for easy comparison of each franchise.
http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/
December 5th, 2009 at 6:01 am
http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/
The Raiders!
Thats the best website I have come across for info
December 5th, 2009 at 6:03 am
It’s beyond me why Tiger did it.His wife is a stunner.
If you can answer that,then could you tell me why Cheryl Cole’s husband was caught playing away.
Thinking with the little head and not the big head ??
December 5th, 2009 at 6:04 am
oh…..and good morning Plunketthead.
December 5th, 2009 at 6:05 am
http://www.pro-football-reference.com/boxscores/199401020rai.htm
I scored great seats to this game.
We almost left when the Mules went up 30 – 13 in the third quarter.
December 5th, 2009 at 6:08 am
Mornin back at you
Tiger just wants to get his freak on.
I think he has been imbiding in more then just strange booty.
The man has been drinking & drugging
Might be hooked on opiates since his surgery.
It would explain his erratic play as of late.
December 5th, 2009 at 6:13 am
You might just be right,it would explain a lot.
December 5th, 2009 at 6:16 am
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2009/12/04/jp-losman-works-out-for-colts/
I posted that last night and fell asleep.
I thought it would get more comments.
Al should get on the horn and offer Jagobacktobama to the Colts for Marvin Harrisons phone number.
December 5th, 2009 at 6:20 am
If the colts want a strong-arm QB that couldn’t hit the side of a barn,why don’t we trade them JaMarcus ?
December 5th, 2009 at 6:28 am
Speaking as a man who has succumed to wine, women and drugs, I understand where Tiger is at.
That stuff will bring the strongest of men to their knees.
Just ask the QB the Raiders picked in the first round of the draft.
If Tiger is “addicted” he has a hard road to hoe.
December 5th, 2009 at 6:34 am
Woods’ email, Uchitel’s friend tells Us, details the athlete’s “disturbing dream.”
“I had a dream we were married and I was leading the tournament,” Woods reportedly wrote. “I came home, excited to see you, and there you were in the bedroom getting f–ked by Derek and David [Boreanaz]. Some part of me thinks you would like that.”
The married athlete then explains how wired he is from his X-rated vision of Uchitel with TV and baseball hunks. “Now I can’t get back to sleep. My body is tired, but my mind is awake. Need an Ambien.”
December 5th, 2009 at 6:35 am
lol I just found that.
Tiger really is getting his freak on.
December 5th, 2009 at 6:36 am
….and I thought he was such a clean-cut bloke !!
December 5th, 2009 at 6:44 am
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2009/12/05/bernard-berrian-joins-the-100-mile-an-hour-club/
The Minneapolis Star Tribune reports that, on Monday night, receiver Bernard Berrian was busted for going 104 in a 60-mph zone.
December 5th, 2009 at 6:45 am
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2009/11/30/steelers-eventually-will-have-a-tough-decision-to-make-on-dixon/
Long article but very interesting.
December 5th, 2009 at 6:51 am
R.I.P. Eddie Fatu aka Umaga
December 5th, 2009 at 6:51 am
REF:196..
If only we had that kind of problem.
That pro-football-reference site is excellent,I’ve put it in my favorites.Going to have loads of fun looking at all the stats !! Nice one Plunketthead.
December 5th, 2009 at 6:54 am
Exla…
Missed that over here.Who is he ?
December 5th, 2009 at 6:59 am
You are welcome.
Raider home page and NFL.com are almost worthless for history.
December 5th, 2009 at 7:05 am
Premier football games are just starting so I’m off to try and catch one.
Enjoy your Saturday
……AND FREE 4EVA !!!!!!!
December 5th, 2009 at 7:07 am
neilb Says:
December 5th, 2009 at 6:54 am
Exla…
Missed that over here.Who is he ?
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part of the famous Fatu wrestling family. Related to the “Rock” Duane Johnson. Just came back from Hulk Hogans Australian tour. Only 36 yrs old. Poor wife and kids.
December 5th, 2009 at 7:09 am
That’s Dwayne Johnson.
December 5th, 2009 at 7:12 am
Not into wrestling to be honest.Still,sorry to hear of his death.
Later…..
December 5th, 2009 at 7:15 am
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Got that out of my system.
December 5th, 2009 at 7:22 am
Ron Paul says Obama is preparing us for perpetual war and 5% war tax. Ron says we need a President that will tell the bankers and big corps that we will not play war anymore and take our troops and go home.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mtlME2Ef_vA
December 5th, 2009 at 7:38 am
DHB hurts foot
Raiders rookie Darrius Heyward-Bey is a late addition to the injury report Friday with an unspecified foot injury, the team announced this evening.
No word on how DHB hurt his foot but he is listed as questionable for Sunday’s game at Pittsburgh. Raiders coach Tom Cable did not mention the injury after the team practiced Friday.
Heyward-Hey has started all 11 games this season, catching nine passes. If he is not able to play, rookie Louis Murphy likely will return to the starting lineup.
December 5th, 2009 at 7:39 am
JERRY: WAKE THE HELL UP
YOUR COMPETITION IS SCOOPING YOU, AGAIN
December 5th, 2009 at 7:41 am
Maybe DHB’s injury will give Walker a chance.
December 5th, 2009 at 8:22 am
MR, I guess you havent heard this. Your dead wrong as usual.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fOZ-Etb0k0Q
They dont even know where Barback Marx gets “his” money from…..but THEY hand is out…OBAMA MONEY!!
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
December 4th, 2009 at 5:19 pm
MistaBrown, I’ll tell you the same thing I told Captain Jack,
Money I’ve gotten from Obama: $0
Money citizens in general have gotten from Obama: $0
December 5th, 2009 at 8:47 am
Lame Kiffin is on the ESPN college gameday show.
I like the last ten minutes when they make their picks
December 5th, 2009 at 8:50 am
You too can have your Obama Dollar:
http://www.obamadollarusa.com/
December 5th, 2009 at 8:51 am
That was non-partisan by the way!
December 5th, 2009 at 9:06 am
If Fargas and DHB are out, we might have a chance to win.
Now if Al would just go away…
December 5th, 2009 at 9:17 am
# exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:
December 5th, 2009 at 7:15 am
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Kobe! Kobe! Kobe! Kobe! Kobe! Kobe! Kobe! Kobe! Kobe!
Got that out of my system.
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I second that!
December 5th, 2009 at 9:19 am
# neilb Says:
December 5th, 2009 at 6:03 am
It’s beyond me why Tiger did it.His wife is a stunner.
If you can answer that,then could you tell me why Cheryl Cole’s husband was caught playing away.
Thinking with the little head and not the big head ??
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If Billy Joel can get sick of Chritse Brinkley in her prime nothing is crazy.
December 5th, 2009 at 9:20 am
Nnamdi Asomugha is more than a Pro Bowler, All-Pro and the league’s highest-paid cornerback. He’s also the one Raiders player unafraid to voice his opinion about things that need addressing.
Asomugha this week said the Raiders defense is too predictable and needs to become more in step with the way offenses have changed in recent years.
“We’re a team that chooses to be who we are, regardless of who we’re playing against, and regardless of the matchups or the things that the other team is going to present,” Asomugha said Wednesday. “We’ve got one way of doing it and that’s what we do, and teams can get us into some tough situations.”
The Raiders way of playing defense is based on managing general partner Al Davis’ belief that you dominate the man across from you. Nothing fancy, just win the one-on-one matchups, and the desired results will follow. That means man-to-man coverage and few blitzes.
That works fine, Asomugha said, as long as you have the talent to pull it off, adding that executing a successful defense also requires some flexibility.
“The game changes,” Asomugha said. “The game is never going to be the same as it was 10 years ago or five years ago with the rule changes and things like that. You have to be able to adapt.”
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The Raiders are Child’s Play for opposing Coaches.
December 5th, 2009 at 9:30 am
People cry about the D our O is one of the few I know our D could shut down, put 11 in box and watch the drops.
December 5th, 2009 at 9:34 am
Kobe! Kobe! Kobe! Kobe! Kobe! Kobe! Kobe! Kobe! Kobe!
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Got that out of my system.
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I third that!!
December 5th, 2009 at 9:34 am
Good morning Nation!!
December 5th, 2009 at 9:41 am
Problem with the Raider defense is that Davis is stuck in the 60’s where Lombardi ran the sweep and dared teams to stop it. We don’t have thesuperior players to stop the offense man to man.
Anyway, here’s the Lombardi Sweep on offense:
http://www.packers.com/history/fast_facts/lombardi_sweep/
December 5th, 2009 at 9:43 am
The Raiders are Child’s Play for opposing Coaches.
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I’m falling over, I agree with you.
December 5th, 2009 at 9:44 am
Cable is child’s play for opposing coaches. Mental midget.
December 5th, 2009 at 9:45 am
Let’s give Al a little credit this style would look a whole lot better with a young Howie and Townsend.
December 5th, 2009 at 9:48 am
We don’t have a Howie or Townsend. Al forgot to reload.
December 5th, 2009 at 9:49 am
I know just long for the good ol days , hell the Great Ol Days!
December 5th, 2009 at 9:51 am
KK, did you get in line for 0bama $$$ ?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fOZ-Etb0k0Q
December 5th, 2009 at 9:55 am
I’ve long said we have a Curse from the mistreatment of Marcus
Allen, Bo jackson greatest athlete ever pulls his leg out of his hip how does that even happen, the tuck when the went to the replay I was no way the could possible turn it around, Damn Mcnabb chokes to Grudens Bucs and we have to play the guy who made our team and qb, Moss doesn’t score like Moss for 2yr then breaks Rice record 1yr he leaves us and 7 yrs of awful football. Al if you wanna be great again step down and make nice with Marcus. Not to mention when we started 8-2 under White and lost last 6 and 9-7 got you in that yr
December 5th, 2009 at 10:06 am
Mistabrown Says:
December 5th, 2009 at 9:51 am
KK, did you get in line for 0bama $$$ ?
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Brown, did you get in line at the food bank?
December 5th, 2009 at 10:09 am
What a Warrior Marcus was. It’s a damned shame how Al treated him.
December 5th, 2009 at 10:40 am
# Richochet Says:
December 4th, 2009 at 11:08 pm
Funny watching priest and smac hold hands.
The two guys who cry over Al.
Only two guys on the board who still think Al’s ‘got it’..who state “When Al wins the two SB’s, I’m going to be here rubbing it in your face”
The two guys who defend Al’s picks, lol
Look at you two morons, trying so desperately to justify Al picking Russell when everyone said not to..both of you dumb asses stating “Bey is going to be a stud”
You two sad sacks are about as pathetic as Al is..difference is you two love Al, and he wouldn’t give either of you wimps the time of day.
^^^^^^^^^
Exactly!
December 5th, 2009 at 10:46 am
Man…Tigger has some serious issues.
A man willing to pay his scorned wife 5.5 million to go to counseling and willing to pay her 35 million to stay in the marriage for 5 years and 50 million for 7 years to try and help him save face is PATHETIC!!
Under the new terms of the pre nup….she would get all this money, IF she remains a “dutiful” wife??
How PATHETIC can Tigger be?
Trying to buy out adultery…..unreal!
December 5th, 2009 at 10:55 am
Mistabrown,
All sorts of people with their hand out for “Obama” money.
Its a shame that the clip you posted only isolated one group of people.
There are plenty of people of all sorts of backgrounds on the “dole”
How about those rich guys on Wall Street for starters?
December 5th, 2009 at 10:55 am
Tiger Woods is just another person. Who cares what someone does in their personal life.
And why on earth would RAIDER FANS care.
We used to make a living on players who did things their own way!
December 5th, 2009 at 10:58 am
I am rooting for the bug eating cornhuskers for the first time in memory.
Throw the BCS into chaos. again
December 5th, 2009 at 11:02 am
Plunketthead Says:
December 5th, 2009 at 10:58 am
I am rooting for the bug eating cornhuskers for the first time in memory.
Throw the BCS into chaos. again
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Agreed! Hoping Cincy pulls it out as well. The BcS is full of shhhhhh.
They claim its about amateur athletics but set up a basterdized system to maximize profits.
What a joke….competition is tossed aside
December 5th, 2009 at 11:03 am
this site has turned into a ‘mob mentality site’.1st you all just hated on Davis.then you turned on the coaches,then the players and the Raiders in general.now that you all hate those things,you are turning on each other more than ever.if someone doesn’t agree with the ‘mob’,you cry lynch em’.what was once a great site for discussing the Raiders has turned into nothing more than a hate mongering place.
December 5th, 2009 at 11:03 am
SnB, you are never one to follow along too closely. You dont appear to be too bright either.
I posted that clip because some idiot named MR said citizens have received 0 dollars from Barback Marx. Maybe MR was born yesterday or maybe he is like the KK’s of the world with his head up his a$$ I don’t know but heres MR’s quote in case you missed it.
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
December 4th, 2009 at 5:19 pm
Money citizens in general have gotten from Obama: $0
December 5th, 2009 at 11:06 am
WHy is it a shame? Its a shame the people with their hand out are so ignorant they have no idea how Govt works or where money comes from.
That clip didnt isolate any group of people it was just audio. Frankly it doesn’t matter if the woman is white, asian, black, or indian.
SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
December 5th, 2009 at 10:55 am
Mistabrown,
All sorts of people with their hand out for “Obama” money.
Its a shame that the clip you posted only isolated one group of people.
December 5th, 2009 at 11:07 am
Same here Plunketthead. I don’t like the Crocs or the Red Tide or the Cattle – let the Bearkitties and the Horny Toads play in the national title game!
Go Griz! Yes Virginia, there are play-offs in college football.
December 5th, 2009 at 11:11 am
Mistabrown,
Not much interested in talking politics. All I am saying is that clip focused on black women waiting in a welfare line in Detroit. The audio was from Detroit and the accents were clearly black. The clip suggests that only blacks are ignorant of “where the money comes from”
Read some of the comments on that Youtube clip.
As for the dole, as you point out, it doesn’t matter who it is.
But remember that Bush had the largest increase in domestic spending ever.
That’s why you need a 3rd party. The two party dictatorship is one in the same.
Now you go ahead and continue your worthless debate with MR
December 5th, 2009 at 11:14 am
Lefty12,
Some of these guys are just antagonists.
As for the Raiders, there is no excuse for this level of ineptitude.
Most people were not thinking playoffs…rather that this season would be the bridge to better things.
Instead, the team has regressed BADLY and is now as bad as it ever has been.
No QB
No RB
Need a WR
No FB
No RT
No RG
No C
No WLB
No MLB
No SLB
No DT
No DT
No FS (Huff will not get $5 million)
No NB
No KR
No PR
Lefty, this team hasn’t even begun to rebuild.
Its a mess and I don’t have confidence that Davis can right the ship.
December 5th, 2009 at 11:18 am
I can appreciate that but it was you that chimed in nobody forced you. If you dont want to discuss something keep your mouth shut.
You are incredibly dumb SnB.
SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
December 5th, 2009 at 11:11 am
Mistabrown,
Not much interested in talking politics.
December 5th, 2009 at 11:19 am
Lefty
It’s always been open season on me and MR, so quit lying.
You’re just mad that people are waking up and not putting up with Al Davis, your idol.
December 5th, 2009 at 11:21 am
KK, speaking of idols. Your idol thinks we have 57 states, you say what?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EpGH02DtIws
December 5th, 2009 at 11:21 am
Mistabrown,
You seem very angry. You hurl out insults with regularity. Its just a blog brother.
December 5th, 2009 at 11:22 am
SnB, your ignorance is off the charts.
December 5th, 2009 at 11:22 am
SnB
Cincy may not make it.
Boise State has already won a BCS bowl game and TCU looks unbeatable.
I would love to see TCU play Bama/Gater winner if Texas loses.
December 5th, 2009 at 11:24 am
Lefty
The haters have always been here and a lot of us dont hate at all.
December 5th, 2009 at 11:24 am
Lefty 12,
Don’t hate Davis, just think he needs help. Cable is in over his head, and players are not producing. I respect the opinions of those Raider brothers that differ. 3-8 is a disappointing fact.
December 5th, 2009 at 11:26 am
I haven’t thrown up once today.
# SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
December 5th, 2009 at 11:21 am
Mistabrown,
You seem very angry. You hurl out insults with regularity. Its just a blog brother.
December 5th, 2009 at 11:29 am
SnB, if you carry on about politics & insert yourself in a conversation about politics and follow that up with “I dont want to talk politics” its very likely someone is going to call you out for being a stupid idiot, just sayin.
December 5th, 2009 at 11:33 am
Boise State has proven they belong in the BCS. They kicked Alabamas butt two years ago in a BCS game.
I would love to BS and or TCU play for all the marbles.
I really want to see a cornhusker win so TCU can kick Gater/bama butt in the big game.
December 5th, 2009 at 11:34 am
Plunketthead Says:
December 5th, 2009 at 11:22 am
SnB
Cincy may not make it.
Boise State has already won a BCS bowl game and TCU looks unbeatable.
I would love to see TCU play Bama/Gater winner if Texas loses.
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I just want to see as many BCS eligable teams win today.
The more that get there the louder the complaints. Sooner or later they will blow this system up
December 5th, 2009 at 11:34 am
SnB, you said its a shame that video isolatated 1 particular group even though that was not the case.
Would you feel better if 5 different women of different ethnic backgrounds and financial status said the same moronic thing ?
Just trying to get inside that head of yours and see whats rattling around in there…
December 5th, 2009 at 11:35 am
Brown
Why are you always angry?
December 5th, 2009 at 11:35 am
Plunkethead,
Why not an 8 team playoff with the top 8 ranked teams. Or take the champions of each conference with an at large or two.
Or just copy what D-1AA and D2 do for the postseason.
There is no such thing as a college football champion.
They play for the conference
December 5th, 2009 at 11:41 am
Was watching Cinn vs Pitt online and the multiple virus threats alarm sounded. Exited pronto. LOL
December 5th, 2009 at 11:42 am
Heres some politics for you
TARP
The theft of 10’s of TRILLIONS of dollars—much of it they do NOT EVEN KNOW WHERE IT WENT . . .
rapidly increasing joblessness
rapidly increasing utter destruction of the dollar and our economic well being.
Cap and Trade and global warming, novbody knows what to believe but the feds insist its the best thing since toilet paper.
corruption and lying in high places worse than all the other years of the Republic put together
a Senate totally sold out to globalism
A House mostly sold out to globalism
December 5th, 2009 at 11:43 am
Agreed that BCS system sucks. Need a true Nat’l Championship but that is for the College Football Talk blog to argue.
December 5th, 2009 at 11:48 am
Democrats in charge.
# Plunketthead Says:
December 5th, 2009 at 11:42 am
Heres some politics for you
TARP
The theft of 10’s of TRILLIONS of dollars—much of it they do NOT EVEN KNOW WHERE IT WENT . . .
rapidly increasing joblessness
rapidly increasing utter destruction of the dollar and our economic well being.
Cap and Trade and global warming, novbody knows what to believe but the feds insist its the best thing since toilet paper.
corruption and lying in high places worse than all the other years of the Republic put together
a Senate totally sold out to globalism
A House mostly sold out to globalism
December 5th, 2009 at 11:49 am
Plunkethead
Heres some politics for you
TARP
The theft of 10’s of TRILLIONS of dollars—much of it they do NOT EVEN KNOW WHERE IT WENT . . .
rapidly increasing joblessness
rapidly increasing utter destruction of the dollar and our economic well being.
Cap and Trade and global warming, novbody knows what to believe but the feds insist its the best thing since toilet paper.
corruption and lying in high places worse than all the other years of the Republic put together
a Senate totally sold out to globalism
A House mostly sold out to globalism
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You don’t know what you’re talking about, and neither did George Bush
December 5th, 2009 at 11:50 am
KK, why are you so angry?
December 5th, 2009 at 11:50 am
SnB
I am in favor of a playoff. Scrub Mississippi Valley State and Tennessee Chattanooga off the schedule.
Playoffs should probaly have started last week so we can have a New Years Game Day for the Championship.
December 5th, 2009 at 11:56 am
Mistabrown Says:
December 5th, 2009 at 11:50 am
KK, why are you so angry?
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I’m tired of the Raiders losing.
Why are you so angry?
December 5th, 2009 at 11:58 am
KK, how does redistributing wealth sound to you? Hope, change, and socialism!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BRPbCSSXyp0
December 5th, 2009 at 11:58 am
Housing prices are up
Unemployment is down
Stock market is up
Trrops in Iraq are down
GDP is up
Recession is over
But the Raiders are still losing.
December 5th, 2009 at 11:59 am
Sorry about your anger KK. Not really..
But I’m not unhappy like you. I dont pretend to know if people are unhappy or happy. I dont even care.
I dont pretend to know others financial status on here like you do..
December 5th, 2009 at 12:00 pm
Mistabrown Says:
December 5th, 2009 at 11:58 am
KK, how does redistributing wealth sound to you? Hope, change, and socialism!
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I have no idea what you’re talking about.
Why are you so angry, Every Friggin Day????????????
December 5th, 2009 at 12:03 pm
Barback Marx the community organizer socialist wants to re-distribute wealth.
Imagine that!
“I think when you spread the wealth around, its good for everybody”
-Barback Marx 0bama
December 5th, 2009 at 12:05 pm
KK, you have no idea because your head is in the sand.
Your idol told Joe the Plumber toward the end of that clip the following after lying about tax cuts of course
“I think when you spread the wealth around, its good for everybody”
-Barback Marx 0bama
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BRPbCSSXyp0
December 5th, 2009 at 12:05 pm
Mistabrown Says:
December 5th, 2009 at 11:59 am
Sorry about your anger KK. Not really..
But I’m not unhappy like you. I dont pretend to know if people are unhappy or happy. I dont even care.
I dont pretend to know others financial status on here like you do..
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You come in here everyday grumpy looking to attack me about Obama or something, what’s your problem?
December 5th, 2009 at 12:06 pm
KK, watch the youtube clip so your not in the dark. I’ll be back later.
Have a nice day!
December 5th, 2009 at 12:07 pm
Mistabrown Says:
December 5th, 2009 at 12:06 pm
KK, watch the youtube clip so your not in the dark. I’ll be back later.
Have a nice day!
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I don’t give a fuk about your youtube clip, ok?
December 5th, 2009 at 12:09 pm
The Bearcats have come back. Only 8 points down with 8 minutes to go.
And they are driving for a score
December 5th, 2009 at 12:11 pm
This is a great game. Bearcats on the one yard line.
I think Pike will make it in the NFL
December 5th, 2009 at 12:11 pm
KoolKell Says:
December 5th, 2009 at 11:58 am
Housing prices are up
Unemployment is down
Stock market is up
Trrops in Iraq are down
GDP is up
Recession is over
But the Raiders are still losing
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Yikes…let’s not forgot
We continue to lose more jobs each month (another 11,000 this month)
The Dollar continues to weaken
The deficit is skyrocketing
We are spending more money and sending more troops to Afghanistan
And, amazingly, democrats are lauding the growth of the stock market. You know Haliburton is part of the S & P 500 right? Aren’t we all excited their stock is going up again.
December 5th, 2009 at 12:14 pm
The weak dollar is helping the economy.
Unemployment id down last month.
Clinton left a surplus, Bush lect a deficit for Obama.
At least be honest
December 5th, 2009 at 12:14 pm
I’m watching that pitt cincy game, the weather looks miserable in pittsburgh. we should just forfeit. save everyone the time. only die hard fans who are crazy enough to think the raiders can win this want to see this same. i know i’m not watching it. sleeping in.
December 5th, 2009 at 12:15 pm
The Cincy v Pitt game is rockin. 38-38 game with 5 min left.
December 5th, 2009 at 12:15 pm
What we’re supposed to root aganist the DOW because haliburton is on it????????? Wingnuts. sheesh.
December 5th, 2009 at 12:16 pm
Real MR,
Looking bad for tomorrow….that’s for sure.
But that college game is real football.
Perhaps Davis will scout more northeastern players instead of fleet footed southerners…..
Oh well…..
“We haven’t even started rebuilding yet!”
December 5th, 2009 at 12:18 pm
M Lonetree Says:
I don’t like the Crocs or the Red Tide or the Cattle – let the Bearkitties and the Horny Toads play in the national title game!
38 – 38
Save a seat for the Bearcats in the BCS.
Bearkitties, Broncos and Horny Toads
December 5th, 2009 at 12:19 pm
Vegas Raider, you try to pretend to be all independent politically but do you think you’re fooling anyone? Every political comment you’ve made is a shot at Obama and/or Democrats, and you were doing that before last year’s election, too. Obama’s going to get reelected. Personally, I’m not as happy with him as I was before. I might not even vote for him. But he’s going to win.
Can you think of a Republican who who can beat him? MistaBrown can’t, despite all of the shyt he talks. You ready to step up and name one, and give reasons as to why? Because if not, Obama’s going to be your president for a long time. It’s ok to hate him but you’d better get used to him.
December 5th, 2009 at 12:20 pm
Raiders 27 Steelturds 17
Breakout Game!
December 5th, 2009 at 12:20 pm
Clinton left Bush a surplus, Bush left Obama a deficit. When’s the last time any republican president left a budget surplus?
Carter left Reagan a surplus, reagan left the country with the largest defecit in history at the time.
Get real wingnuts.
December 5th, 2009 at 12:22 pm
Do you know how the unemployment numbers work? It is the amount of people who collect unemployment. There was a loss of 11,000 jobs last month but the percentage went down a tick (to a 10% which is roughly 35% higher than it was when the great savior was elected). That means more than 11,000 didn’t get jobs, they just ran out of unemployment benefits.
December 5th, 2009 at 12:22 pm
plunkethead, what’s your record on predictions this year? Probably 3-8.
December 5th, 2009 at 12:24 pm
Welfare to the poor is 1/10 of 1% of the Budget. Peanuts. But I never hear you wingnuts compalin about corporate Welfare.
December 5th, 2009 at 12:25 pm
interesting post on a raider board I frequent on the 10 am west coast start time. Thought I would share it here and see what you guys think…
This ain’t right, something needs to be done!
I was driving home from work in San Diego this week, listening to a local sports radio talk show host interview Jim Steeg. If you don’t know Jim Steeg, his bio reads former 26 year career NFL headquarters employee, and now current San Diego Charger front office executive. He has connections…. Jim Steeg admitted in the interview that the NFL is well aware of west coast team’s problems when going back east and playing at 1:00 pm EST. He stated that was why his team and current employer, the Chargers, would be starting at 4:00pm this Sunday in New York, not 10:00 PST. He helped make it happen.
That got me thinking and I did a little research. This is what I discovered. The chargers have 6 east coast/possible 10:00am games this year. Guess how many of those Chargers east coast games will be played at 10:00am? ONE!!!!!! And that was in KC. Now let’s take a look at our RAIDERS. We have SIX possible 10:00am start games. Guess what? We play FIVE games at 10:00am. How fair is that, when a division opponent goes to some of the same venues and gets to play their games at 4:00 pm EST??? That is a HUGE advantage to the opposition. HUGE!
I then did some additional investigation into this topic, and discovered that the NFL has actually IMPLEMENTED a NEW scheduling system to HELP the EAST COAST TEAMS WHEN THEY TRAVEL WEST!! See link below, very interesting if you were like me and did not know the NFL initiated this new policy.
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4009230
Apparently Belichek and his extended stays for back-to-back west games made them react. Well what about the poor freaking stiffs out west?
Further scheduling examining shows the Seattle Seahawks getting shafted up the ying-yang more than us. Seattle plays a whopping 6 games at 10:00am!! Think about that, that’s 75% of a team’s road schedule. You think coach Mora is pissed off now? Wait till that 4 game stretch is over.
I quickly looked up the west coast team’s record playing at 10:00 year. It’s a combined 2 wins outta 10 games, and those to wins came at weak ass KC for our Raiders and the chargers.
Bottom line, this entire 10:00am games for west coast team chaps my asss. The Chargers have an extremely huge unfair competitive advantage over us because of this scheduling situation.
East coast people may not thinks it’s a big deal, but imagine if you’re trying to sleep at midnight east coast time, but it’s really 9:00pm for you. You finally go to sleep at 12 midnight, but its 3 am where you are at. You finally get to sleep, but you have to wake up 3 hours later…… So on 3 to 4 hours sleep, you need to go physically kill someone on the gridiron at an early morning hour. It’s no wonder our 3 10:00am games so far we’ve been outscored 83 to 16. Remember how lethargic we were for the Giants, Texans and Chefs games?
I propose……… It should be standard scheduling procedure for ALL the west coast teams to play no earlier that 4:00pm EST, when they have to travel out east or midwest. The NFL prides itself on its many rules and “competition committee” to ensure a better product and fair and impartial balance for all teams. This only makes too much sense. If they want to make ONE team in a division play five 10:00am games, the other teams within that division should be subjected to the same game start time, or at least make it somewhat equal and justified.
December 5th, 2009 at 12:25 pm
Kell, he’s baiting you. VegasRaider is a Davis loyalist, despite his token critical posts of Al. Look at how mad Vegas was getting the other day at people who support the billboard. He was sarcastically saying he gave the kid money for his “gumption”. Not because he supports the cause. Vegas is posting these political comments to bait both me and you. Ever notice he almost always casts the first stone? We’ll be talking about Al, and he’ll make some comment about Obama. It’s a tactic.
December 5th, 2009 at 12:25 pm
MR,
Have you ever heard me a praise any politician besides the Clintons?
Nope, I hate them all.
And the repubs will have a shot as long as they don’t put forth a dingbat chick and a dimintitive old-man.
Romney and Fred Thompson would put up a helluva fight.
December 5th, 2009 at 12:26 pm
Vegas
Surely you remember the economy was on the verge of collapse when Obama took over from Republicans, no?
Quit acting stupid for disingenious debate points.
December 5th, 2009 at 12:27 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
December 5th, 2009 at 12:25 pm
It’s a tactic.
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We all have our tricks I guess. Don’t hate because mine work.
December 5th, 2009 at 12:28 pm
MR
I know Vegas is as phoney as a 3 dollar bill. When I engage, I’m aiming at a wider audience.
December 5th, 2009 at 12:29 pm
See, Kell? He just admitted it ^^^.
Later, Kell. Have fun with these guys.
Here’s a tip: Keep talking about Al. That’s really what this is all about. Just keep punching away.
December 5th, 2009 at 12:29 pm
KoolKell Says:
December 5th, 2009 at 12:26 pm
Vegas
Surely you remember the economy was on the verge of collapse when Obama took over from Republicans, no?
Quit acting stupid for disingenious debate points.
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Everyone told us we were on the verge, but I didn’t lose my job until June. And my new job is on the front-line of pending medicare cuts with this new “reform”.
It’s almost personal with me and Barack.
December 5th, 2009 at 12:31 pm
MR
I know Vegas is as phoney as a 3 dollar bill. When I engage, I’m aiming at a wider audience.
Like WE have in the fight against Al Davis. His Idolaters are hopeless, but the mesage has gotten out to the wider Nation, no?
December 5th, 2009 at 12:31 pm
Draft the Pike kid
December 5th, 2009 at 12:32 pm
Wow what a game
December 5th, 2009 at 12:32 pm
Vegas
You lost your old job, because you spent the wordday on the internet, until they disconnected you, right?
December 5th, 2009 at 12:33 pm
KoolKell Says:
December 5th, 2009 at 12:28 pm
MR
I know Vegas is as phoney as a 3 dollar bill. When I engage, I’m aiming at a wider audience.
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That’s because you elude the audience right in front of you, ME.
You never answer the question. Just Bush this, Repub that. I voted for Hillary in the primaries, why, because I am a registered Dem. Never voted for a Repub in my life.
But that’s all you cling to, because you are an elitist progressive, never-wrong, and extremely one-sided.
December 5th, 2009 at 12:34 pm
Plunketthead,
Cold weather…passing game, running game, hard hits…
This is MUCH
December 5th, 2009 at 12:34 pm
This is MUCH better than SEC junk football
December 5th, 2009 at 12:34 pm
Pitt blows the 21 point lead. Crazy game
December 5th, 2009 at 12:35 pm
Elitist Progressive?
Why is it that republicans hate education?
December 5th, 2009 at 12:36 pm
KoolKell Says:
December 5th, 2009 at 12:32 pm
Vegas
You lost your old job, because you spent the wordday on the internet, until they disconnected you, right?
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I lost my job because everyone was in a panic. I would never pass up an opportunity to make money. I had nothing to do but listen to clients complain.
But I’m not too proud to say I am probably addicted to this place. So are you, but I’m sure you would never admit it.
December 5th, 2009 at 12:39 pm
Pitt misses the PA and loses by 1.
December 5th, 2009 at 12:40 pm
Brian Kelly would be STUPID for going to Notre Dame.
Stick with Cincy and keep building a program to elite status.
December 5th, 2009 at 12:40 pm
Cincy in the National Championship Game!
December 5th, 2009 at 12:41 pm
George Bush left The Financial System, Wall Street on the verge of collapse. You know damned well.
This Country is in far better shape today than where Bush left it. You know that too. So quit the dumb act.
December 5th, 2009 at 12:43 pm
Just need Texas to lose and get TCU in BCS game.
December 5th, 2009 at 12:48 pm
This years TCU team, IMO, is better than last year’s undefeated Utah team that smoked Alabama and finished last year #2.
December 5th, 2009 at 12:49 pm
Go pornhuskers!!
December 5th, 2009 at 12:51 pm
Priesttj Says:
December 4th, 2009 at 10:47 pm
Well Raider O, DHB is about as raw as they come I remember when Cliff Branch was just like him. They wouldn’t even play Branch at home because we boooed him so much. DHB is better it this point than Branch was. Branch was clueless.
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Branch was a 4th round draft pick, not #7, ok?
Branch was not given a starting job until his 3rd year, ok?
December 5th, 2009 at 12:52 pm
That little AZ RB from Vegas is going to give USC fits today.
December 5th, 2009 at 12:58 pm
There is no doubt that DHB is a disaster of a pick.
The owner wasn’t thinking about anything but blazing speed. Sad
DHB was also put in an impossible situation. Not given competent coaching or even a scheme to exploit his limited talents.
But hey, 21 of 24 1st & 2nd round picks have been busts since 1999.
Just add DHB to the long and ever expanding list.
December 5th, 2009 at 1:02 pm
Anyone going to watch the “And-1″ Championship on CBS
December 5th, 2009 at 1:14 pm
I use to be real into And-1 a few years back. Out of the loop of late, didn’t know there was a “championship” today.
I will be watching the Spike Ultimate Fighter event tonight
December 5th, 2009 at 1:17 pm
Let’s hope Bama and Nebraska can win today, to make a shame out of this BCS crap.
December 5th, 2009 at 1:20 pm
Don’t know about “And-1″ Championship, but I’m watching the SEC Championship on CBS.
I watched the QB for BAMA play High School ball for Southlake Carroll.
Should be a heck of a game.
December 5th, 2009 at 1:36 pm
Anybody see that Cincy WR Gilyard this morning? I would love to see him in silver and black. Dont know if he’s fast enough for Al but that guy is the real deal.
December 5th, 2009 at 1:42 pm
KK-you can chose to say Davis is my idol.anyone who has read what i’ve said over the years knows that not to be the case.the reason you are always open season is due to how you always twist peoples comments and you are a well known bigot.
December 5th, 2009 at 1:56 pm
“Barrel Man” passes away
Posted by Gregg Rosenthal on December 5, 2009 4:09 PM ET
One of the most famous fans in NFL history died on Friday.
Tim McKernan, known as “Barrel Man” to anyone who watched a Broncos game over the last 30 years, passed away at the age of 67. McKernan was suffering from terminal lung disease.
McKernan wore a gigantic orange barrel – and little else but a Cowboy hat — to Broncos games. He “retired” his game duties in 2007.
The Denver Post writes that his first barrel was on exhibit at the Pro Football Hall of Fame. It’s difficult to think of many fans more synonymous with a team than “Barrel Man” and the Broncos.
We send our condolences to the family that knew him best away from the football stadium.
December 5th, 2009 at 2:04 pm
Lefty12 Says:
December 5th, 2009 at 1:42 pm
KK-you can chose to say Davis is my idol.anyone who has read what i’ve said over the years knows that not to be the case.the reason you are always open season is due to how you always twist peoples comments and you are a well known bigot.
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http://www.move2alameda.com/about.html
December 5th, 2009 at 2:30 pm
Montana Grizzlies 51 Stephen Austin 0
91 unanswered points in the playoffs is impressive on any level.
December 5th, 2009 at 2:38 pm
The “And-1″ Championship is on CBS.
Tim “Hotsauce” Tebow will be presenting his QB skills
December 5th, 2009 at 2:55 pm
Lefty
Correction ck this link then call me a bigot. Just because the Davis Idolaters call me names to change the subject, doesn’t make their insults true. Moron.
http://www.move2alameda.com/about.html
December 5th, 2009 at 3:00 pm
Lefty
Can you straighten this out:
Davis has done many good deeds in his life. He has, for instance, offered financial assistance to former and current players, ailing former coaches and even journalists. And he has kept those gestures quiet. He was also the first NFL owner to hire a Hispanic and a black as head coach. But Davis’s abuses of power have become increasingly visible. For example, after practice it is customary for him to enter the equipment room, drop a towel on the floor and wait for an employee to clean his shoes. “I saw him make someone wipe his shoes in front of 75 people,” says Denver Broncos coach Mike Shanahan, who coached the Raiders in 1988 and was fired four games into the ‘89 season.
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Was that you or BHP?
December 5th, 2009 at 3:59 pm
Looks like Florida’s going down this year.
Its Roll Tide right now.
December 5th, 2009 at 4:05 pm
LOL! Arizona downs USC.
Maybe they can get Weis as their OC.
December 5th, 2009 at 4:07 pm
The Broncos all-time no 2 died today with just as many rings as midget Tom Jackson. http://www.denverpost.com/commented/ci_13934615?source=commented-#comments
December 5th, 2009 at 4:26 pm
Two records broken in Houston yesterday.
1. Earliest recorded snowfall. 12-5
2. Two consecutive years with snowfall.
Man, that global warming is out of control.
December 5th, 2009 at 4:34 pm
# SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
December 5th, 2009 at 12:40 pm
Cincy in the National Championship Game!
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Luv it and they may beat Bama!
Glad Florida lost and now I hope Texas loses!
The BCS is BS and should be disentegrated from existence…..along with the corrupt NCAA officials and sponsors that make money off the BCS CRAP!
December 5th, 2009 at 4:39 pm
At least The Snake is happy.
December 5th, 2009 at 5:19 pm
It will take a miracle for Nebraska to beat Texas.
Nebraska has a great defense, but no offense.
December 5th, 2009 at 5:26 pm
I hope Suh returns a fumble 90yds…..and outruns somebody…you know…in case Al is watching.
Because you know he isn’t watching the actual line play
December 5th, 2009 at 5:40 pm
JaMarcus Russell
Andrew Walter
Marques Tuiasoapopo
Billy Joe Hobert
Todd Marionvich
Jeff Francis
Steve Beurlein
Rusty Hilger
Marc Wilson
Jeff Blount
Ken Stabler
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Question:
How are the Raiders going to run a “Vertical Offense” when they don’t know how to develop Quarterbacks?
December 5th, 2009 at 5:57 pm
KK, show us a team that developes QB’s better than the Raiders. QB’s that they drafted and developed and became all-stars. Since the Raiders are so bad at it who’s better?
December 5th, 2009 at 6:26 pm
I know you guy’s hate Big Al, but he aint in the HOF for his looks. He can fart more football knowledge than all you lames can muster in a year.
Haters hate and doers do. That’s why he’s doing it and y’all are in here every-damn-day hating. Sad!!
December 5th, 2009 at 6:28 pm
Priesttj
NE drafted Tom Brady
Colts drafted Peyton Manning
Chargers drafted Philip Rivers
New York Giants Eli
Philly Eagles Mcnabb
TN had Mcnair
many more!!! whats your point?
December 5th, 2009 at 6:28 pm
Come on KK! I’m sure you have a list of all the great teams that have developed great QB’s by the dozens.
Share your immense knowledge with us! smart guy!
December 5th, 2009 at 6:29 pm
And, The Greatest Raider Receiver of all-time is Freddy B.
You’d think Al Davis would at least SOME appreciation for Hands & Route Running, no?
December 5th, 2009 at 6:29 pm
Priesttj
AL been losing for 7 yrs if you take out Gruden years thats even more so whats your point?
December 5th, 2009 at 6:29 pm
that’s one(1) each team. Where’s the rest since they have done so much better, you can only name one per team. Sad!
December 5th, 2009 at 6:31 pm
Priesttj
Why dont you share your knowledge with us and tell us why have we been losing for 7 yrs?
December 5th, 2009 at 6:31 pm
Priest
If “Big Al” has so much football knowledge, why are his teams so easy to pick apart?
December 5th, 2009 at 6:32 pm
Priesttj
I said NE, Indy, Philly, TN, SD, NYG, etc all of them have developed their QBs, does that make it one team only ???
December 5th, 2009 at 6:32 pm
If Al Davis is so smart, why have the Raiders become the laughingstock of the NFL?
I don’t get it.
December 5th, 2009 at 6:32 pm
You guy’s have that all figured out don’t ya’. It’s Al davis right? You need my input for what? you mean you don’t know?
December 5th, 2009 at 6:33 pm
Priesttj
How has AL’s knowledge helped this team the last 7 yrs?
December 5th, 2009 at 6:34 pm
Priesttj
You the only one saying its not AL’s fault, so please enlighten us the reasons we been losing for 7 years? is it the players, coaches or bust draft picks? who is the GM in charge?
December 5th, 2009 at 6:34 pm
that’s only one per-team son per-team. since they’re so goood at it and we’re so bad shouldn’t they they have 6 or 7 all-pro QB’s per-team?
December 5th, 2009 at 6:35 pm
You should know you guy’s spend half your life in here talking about it. Shouldn’t you know?
December 5th, 2009 at 6:36 pm
KK, name a team with several all-pro QB’s
December 5th, 2009 at 6:37 pm
Priesttj
you are the one who believes in big AL system, so why dont you explain 2 me why have we been losing for 7 yrs now?
December 5th, 2009 at 6:38 pm
Come on smart guy! name one!!
December 5th, 2009 at 6:38 pm
You don’t know what I believe in, you barely know what you believe in.
December 5th, 2009 at 6:39 pm
Just as i thought he can’t give us one. Sad!!
December 5th, 2009 at 6:40 pm
BHP
does 2 count as several??? if fo I pick the eagles..
December 5th, 2009 at 6:41 pm
Pittsburg Steelers Drafted:
Johnny Unitas
Len Dawson
Neil O’Donnell
Terry Bradshaw
Ben Roethisberger
December 5th, 2009 at 6:42 pm
Pittsburg Steelers Drafted:
Johnny Unitas
Len Dawson
Neil O’Donnell
Terry Bradshaw
Ben Roethisberger
http://www.pro-football-reference.com/draft/pit.htm
December 5th, 2009 at 6:48 pm
Atlanta Falcons Drafted:
Matt Ryan
Brett Favre
Matt Shaub
Mike Vick
The Atlanta Falcons for christ sakes.
December 5th, 2009 at 6:54 pm
New England Drafted
Drew Bledsoe
Rich Gannon
Tom Brady
Matt Cassel
December 5th, 2009 at 6:56 pm
good answers KK
December 5th, 2009 at 6:57 pm
New York Jets Drafted
Joe Namath
Chad Pennington
Mark Sanchez
The Research is a little time consuming, but you get the point.
December 5th, 2009 at 6:57 pm
Cowboys
Staubach
Danny White
Aikman
Romo
December 5th, 2009 at 6:57 pm
Eagles
Cunningham
McNabb
Kolb
December 5th, 2009 at 6:58 pm
Now BHP
When I ask you a question, like “If Al Davis knows so much, how is it that he hires 5 Coaches in 5 years”, you run away like a little bytch?
December 5th, 2009 at 7:00 pm
Giants
Simms
Manning
December 5th, 2009 at 7:01 pm
you guys are impressive, i forgot about half of these guys
December 5th, 2009 at 7:02 pm
Chargers
Fouts
Trent Green
Drew Brees
Philip Rivers
December 5th, 2009 at 7:03 pm
Green Bay
Hasselback
Brunell
Rogers
December 5th, 2009 at 7:04 pm
Bengals
Anderson
Esiason
Palmer
December 5th, 2009 at 7:08 pm
lol SnB Priesttj is gone slow down man
December 5th, 2009 at 7:10 pm
JaMarcus Russell doesn’t count because he’s a big blazin bust that shows up overweight and skips meetings
December 5th, 2009 at 7:10 pm
Priesttj
You’ve got no class!
December 5th, 2009 at 7:15 pm
OK,
We blew it last year by passing on Raji
Will someone please tell Mr. Davis to at least consider Suh.
He’s a one man wrecking crew
December 5th, 2009 at 7:17 pm
Colts signed JP Losman, why couldnt we get him and see how he does for us in the last games ?
December 5th, 2009 at 7:20 pm
But Davis’s abuses of power have become increasingly visible. For example, after practice it is customary for him to enter the equipment room, drop a towel on the floor and wait for an employee to clean his shoes. “I saw him make someone wipe his shoes in front of 75 people,” says Denver Broncos coach Mike Shanahan, who coached the Raiders in 1988 and was fired four games into the ‘89 season.
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Priest, now could answer a question for me ,PLEASE.
Was that you or Lefty?
December 5th, 2009 at 7:33 pm
OK Priesttj, you yeller dog. I’m going out to a show with the Mrs.
You can come out now.
Out fellas.
December 5th, 2009 at 7:38 pm
Al Davis sucks big balls.
December 5th, 2009 at 8:00 pm
It’s like a Pinata festival in here every night.
Evening special: “Unlimited swings at defenseless Priest”
It’s not just that he’s an easy target..it’s more like he INSISTS on being the target. Almost as if he craves the attention.
You remember that stupid kid growing up? Would say stupid things, and even though everyone corrected him, he would just keep saying the same stupid crap, over and over? Even though you kick him in the ass, he still wouldn’t stop with the stupid comments. Everyone laughs at him. He pretends he can’t hear/see the comments, but everyone knows he can. After a while, he hides behind his mother’s dress, only to pop back out, looking for more attention.
And for some odd reason, we still enjoy kicking him in the ass….Go figure
December 5th, 2009 at 8:20 pm
Heck, even the Bucs drafted Testaverti and Steve Young (that I recall without looking it up online). The BUCS for gods sakes!
December 5th, 2009 at 9:11 pm
Boy! you guy’s are dumb, half these guy’s never became all-pros with those original teams. And some never were ever all-pros. lol
December 5th, 2009 at 9:13 pm
unitas didnt develope under the steelers it was the colts. hasselback the seahawks brunell jaguars trent green rams favre packers dawson chiefs schaub texans. sanchez hasnt done squat yet and kolb is a backup until otherwise. gannon didnt develope until he became a raider in his 30’s. u guys will say anything to make al davis look bad. the teams mentioned didnt even develope all the qb’s u guys named. the question was drafted AND developed. u guys made yourselves look like azzez. there have been teams that have done both better than the raiders for the last 30 years but atleast be smart enough to name the right teams and qbs.
December 5th, 2009 at 9:14 pm
Raji, is garbage. I’d take Matt S. over Raji all day every day and twice on Sunday. IMO Dez Bryant will be a much better player who wasn’t even drafted.
December 5th, 2009 at 9:20 pm
Armond I knew they couldn’t do it. And I knew there were some that have done it with maybe two at the most and the were 20 years in between them. My point was no team has mastered the art of drafting and developing a QB because it’s damn near impossible. The organizatins that had more than one it was done undera different regiem. Not the same HC or GM or in some cases owner.
That’s why it is known as the most difficult position in sports to master. Because no one HC has drafted and developed more than one.
December 5th, 2009 at 9:27 pm
they spend so much time hating they dont pay attention to the facts. some teams have done it but not as much as people think. miami hasnt had its own qb since marino and he really is the only qb worth talking about that they developed. gannon was the funniest name they brought up cuz he actually developed with us, haha!!
December 5th, 2009 at 9:28 pm
Wassuper!
Raji is actually starting to play pretty well in spurts. Dude can’t get on the field b/c GBs starters are playing pretty well themselves. I’d venture to say that one of those veterans will be available in the offseason.
I still say we should have taken Maulauga. I don’t care if he did drop to the 2nd rd.
December 5th, 2009 at 9:31 pm
It would be nice to see us draft and develop a QB. Or even trade and develop a QB. I thought Marijuanovich was going to be the answer, and then Walter, and now Russell with the way he finished up last year. I just can’t imagine that this guy would rather be back home in Alabama than playing QB in the NFL. Like other young QBs, I think he will grow up, and then we’ll see.
December 5th, 2009 at 9:33 pm
priest suh is 100 times better than raji. if we play it right we could get a couple of dlineman better than him. someone posted yesterday suh isnt worth trading up for, WRONG!. that is a guy u trade up to get seeing how he dominates the los. i hope we do trade up to get him even if we keep kelly. if raji came out this year he wouldnt even be a 1rst rnd pick. the guys we got this year matt.s and bryant have proven to be 2 of the better rookie dlineman but some people here dont even notice it cuz espn or nfl network hasnt told them they are.
December 5th, 2009 at 9:39 pm
wassup boi!! i mentioned getting kampman in here next year to go back to his natural 4-3 end spot and move sey inside. alot of people wanted mau even at 7. we need to get more physical especially at lb. another dt worth looking at is suh’s teammate, #94 crick. russell will be hungry next season if he knows whats good for him. dude needs to be humbled and maybe watchin right now will show him hes not above everyone. too bad dhb doesnt get the same treatment cuz he sucks. i am not and wasnt huge fan of his but i hope he puts it 2gether.
December 5th, 2009 at 9:50 pm
Armond, I totally agree with Suh we’ve talked a time or two about Suh he really is the type f player you biuld a defense around. He’s a 3tech that can be the type of player we’re paying TK to be. You just wind him up and let him go and he’ll wreak havoc on an offense. With the young players we already have he could be the one. I also really like Sam Young the OT from ND.There are several Dlineman I like but Suh is at the top of the list. Raji needs to drp 25 lbs. to really be good but he’s just never really going to be willing to do that cause he will get away with being overwieght.
December 5th, 2009 at 9:53 pm
Armond,
1- Trade up for Suh. If not, then Spikes or McClain.
2- Carlos Dunlap
3- RT Calloway or Sam young
3- CB
4- DT or MLB.
5- RG
5- OL, DL, CB, or LB
6- FB
7- OL, DL, CB, or LB
December 5th, 2009 at 9:55 pm
BHP,
I agree about Suh and Young. I think Young can be a great RT in the NFL.
December 5th, 2009 at 9:55 pm
Armond thse words could never be truer, these guy’s in here are asically your typical fan. They can watch this team all year long and if Jerry doesn’t validate something for them they’ll never notice it.
KK,repeatedly criticised the raiders(AlDavis) for moving T Scott until Jerry told him it was a good move then he excepted it. The only reason Jerry knew is because the coach told him. But if the coach says it and Jerry doesn’t validate it they don’t except it.
They are his sheep and they know it and so does he.
December 5th, 2009 at 9:56 pm
I was actually thinking about the NT from GB, but moving Seymour inside is definitely something to talk about!
December 5th, 2009 at 9:58 pm
Jhill,
That what I said the other day.
What’s up dude?
December 5th, 2009 at 9:59 pm
I just don’t know about trading up.
December 5th, 2009 at 9:59 pm
Wassup Raider O!
Good thinking!
December 5th, 2009 at 10:03 pm
Jhill they do that now with Seymour just on passing downs because of the development of J. Richardson and Matt S. as well as T Scott. When they put T Scott at LB it was due to the development of Richardson he finally is paying dividends. It gives a ton of versatility with T Scott. The front7 we have now is considerably better than the front we started the year with due to the young players developing. But Jerry will have to notify the majority of the posters in here for them to acknowledge it.
December 5th, 2009 at 10:03 pm
I guess it will sort itself out. We need to see if Kelly and Warren will be back next season. I think one or both will restructure and be back. If that happens, coupled with Bryant, we won’t be picking DT in rd 1.
Ricky Brown and Slade Norris will also have a lot to say about if we draft a LB.
December 5th, 2009 at 10:05 pm
Jhill, this kid David Nixon is getting huge run in camp. The coaches really like this kid his size and athleticism gives them another big athletic LB.
December 5th, 2009 at 10:05 pm
lol
We have a few good players on Defense that we can build around:
Nnamdi
Seymour
Branch
Huff
T Scott
TH
And some young guys like Matt S, Mike Mitchell, and Dez Bryant.
December 5th, 2009 at 10:08 pm
Priest,
Richardson has certainly flashed a lot more this season than in past seasons. He’s a solid backup for us.
Trevor Scott looked good in his new position, but let’s be real, it was only one game. It far from resembles anything close to the Tyler Brayton experiment, so hey, maybe Marshall stumbled into something.
December 5th, 2009 at 10:13 pm
Well, that’s good to hear. That would actaully give us some pretty good depth at that position. I’d like to think that Howard and Scott are pretty much locked in on the outsides, so having 3 young candidates plus 52 in contention for the ILB spots is encouraging.
Maybe we’ll see us go back to the 3-4 with Al talking Seymour up as a 3-4 DE.
December 5th, 2009 at 10:18 pm
Until Al Davis realizes that the game is won on the line of scrimage, we will continue to suck. Draft linemen in the first round for God’s sake!
December 5th, 2009 at 10:20 pm
Jhill, it fell into their laps, Scott was needed to help when Alston went down. Plus we were playing a physical running team in Dallas we needed more beef and it worked. It gives us a better LBing corp IMO. When Brown comes back he can push Morrison. But man can you imagine Brandon Spikes at MLB on this defense? WOW!! with Branch and Mitchell looming in the secondary. But I’m serious I don’t want to lose Huff if he’s going to play at this level consistently. He can double at corner giving us more quality depth.
December 5th, 2009 at 10:22 pm
priesttj Says:
December 5th, 2009 at 9:14 pm
Raji, is garbage. I’d take Matt S. over Raji all day every day and twice on Sunday. IMO Dez Bryant will be a much better player who wasn’t even drafted.
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Nope. Raji been hurt most of the year with an ankle injury and has had limited snaps. He’s been healthy and is playing well.
You talk about all this hope and upside…and I guess that’s all we have.
But I am not going to sit here and ignore our big problems. Last yr, run defense was 31st.
This year run defense: 30th
Still can’t stop the run.
Still can’t score.
I guess its the fans fault for not being loyal enough
After 7 yrs, its about time this team started showing IMPROVEMENT. Not playoffs..just improvement. Unless of course we are destined to be like the Chicago Cubs.
Just happy to have the team on the field and have a sort of self-pride in putting up with long-term losing.
December 5th, 2009 at 10:23 pm
Kimbo vs Houstan!
It’s on!!!!
Go Kimpbo!
December 5th, 2009 at 10:23 pm
Kirk, where you get them doesn’t have as much signifcance as getting them. Ist 2nd 3rd I couldn’t care less. Everybody wanted Raji and Brace we got a better player IMO after the draft.
Just get ‘em………..period
December 5th, 2009 at 10:24 pm
yall make some good points but jhill u gotta remember kelly was on that list of possible cuts we were making when we got rid of that punk dhall. there is no way al davis will let kelly stop him from going after suh if possible. this is the same man who got long mcglockton druss and so on. kelly is nowhere near those groups of dt’s. people say davis doesnt build the lines but thats false. he will draft a superior dlineman if there is one but not some of these marginal guys these people in here go crazy over. think about it, would u pick a big 300 pnder who isnt a supreme talent? i believe u only take dlineman that high if they are a rare breed. suh leads his team in tak’s, hurries, i believe sacks and has 10 batted balls. not to mention his int’s for tds. dude is a rare combination of speed, power, athleticism and hes a hard worker. u have to do what u gotta do to get that kind of guy.
December 5th, 2009 at 10:27 pm
If you are committed to building up a team from the ground up….start with the freekn defense. Every team trying to bring up a young QB, or just a young offense, has a running game and a competitive defense.
And to build a defense you need a strong front 7.
1. Get a boss DT
2. Get a real deal LB (MLB, SLB, WLB)
3 Use the 3rd, 4th and 5th rounds to find a RT, RG, C
For goodness sakes….please pass on Taylor Mays
December 5th, 2009 at 10:28 pm
SnB, we’ll see as his career unfolds healthy or hurt he’s not someone that WOW’s me. he never has been so make it what you will. He’s fat and takes tooooo many downs off. Desmond Bryant has shown he can play in this league and play well just give this kid a couple of years and he could be special.
December 5th, 2009 at 10:31 pm
Priesttj,
Tell you who doesn’t wow me.
that bust receiver from Maryland that can’t even catch the damn ball.
Had the sprinter done his job and caught that long bomb from Russell against the Chiefs…the Raiders win that game and we wouldn’t have to be subjected to watching this career backup playing QB
December 5th, 2009 at 10:34 pm
SnB, raji will be in the league 10 years and he will never be the kind of player Suh is right now. Suh’s motor never stops he is a high energy player with tremendous talent. That will never describe Raji.
December 5th, 2009 at 10:36 pm
Snb, touche’ I’m not a DHB fan……..yet! so what’s your point?
December 5th, 2009 at 10:37 pm
The Packers are fine with Raji. His ankle healed and he’s playing well.
Bryant could be a good player. THe Raiders need a boss player in the middle. Not another role player.
If Bryant is the beast in development. Then get him on the field as the starter.
The Raiders are WASTING time with this Warren/Kelly experiment. EVen with Seymour anchoring…we still give up big yards….
Get a DT and Get a LB
This defense can’t keep performing like this
December 5th, 2009 at 10:38 pm
I am all for Suh.
The Raiders need a great player at either the LB position or the DT position.
The defense plays too soft and given their scheme they need another playmaker and not another role player
December 5th, 2009 at 10:43 pm
SnB, do you watch these games or do you wait until jerry explains what happened to you. Our Dline is getting mad respect from opposing teams as far as our LB’s they’re getting exploited. Morrison gave up two long runs the Dline did it’s job and he overran the play. We hold the point we’re getting gashed because LBers aren’t filling gaps……..period
We’ve shuffled this LBer corp over and over again to get it fized and it plaiys well ne game and doesn’t show up the next. Give me Rey-Rey in the middle of this defense and we’ll shut down the run yesterday.
December 5th, 2009 at 10:48 pm
suh and spikes should be early targets but when the combine comes u know some really good players will fall for the dummest reasons. scott is a much better athlete than brayton was but i need to see more before i say its a great move. the good thing is scott will have 6 games to see if he fits. i hope he does then that lessons the need to get 2 starters at lb. morrison needs to go. ive seen enuff of him to know we need to move on. we could aslo get arenas from bama in the mid rnds. i dont think he will be an early pick, maybe 3rd rnd. we could use his return ability.
December 5th, 2009 at 10:54 pm
i actually dont mind warren but only as a backup. his pass rush ability up the middle would be better served on passing downs instead of as a starter. kelly is who im mad at cuz he doesnt disrupt the los enuff for his salary. i would also take sydquan as a nickel cb. i want some dbs that will come up and hit you. cj and nam are physical but routt is soft. the theme for next year should be for an all physical draft and fa. we also need to get a vet wr like harrison. i would rather have given that 1rst rnder to arizona for boldin than taking dhb.
December 5th, 2009 at 10:57 pm
You know it’s funny we’ve been very lucky in our history to get good MLB’s from the second rnd on. Matt Millen 2nd rnd Biekert 5th Dan Conner 3rd. We’ve done rather well at that position in the middle rnds. Greg Lloyds son is a 6′1″ 245 MLB and has the stuff we need at that position. The kid has a lot of nasty just like his father and is very athletic and Physical.
December 5th, 2009 at 11:02 pm
Armond, Ari. would’ve never given us Boldin for the 1st if they would that deal wouldv’e been done.
Boldin is a pro-bowler and is still very young, I guess though if we got Seymour maybe just maybe.
December 5th, 2009 at 11:10 pm
Jon Jones looked great, and he is only 22! Wow
December 5th, 2009 at 11:14 pm
yeah priest but wasnt the reason they didnt trade boldin is cuz they wanted a 1rst and no one would give it to them? i didnt know lloyd had a son that played. where does he play? greg was one of the nastiest dudes i ever watched and we could use a couple like him. he kevin greene and levon kirkland made 1 of the best lbacker groups ive seen. the old saints with rickey jackson pat swilling and martin was a good one too. thats the type of lbs we need.
December 5th, 2009 at 11:19 pm
damn i forgot to add sam mills(RIP) to that saints group. that whole nebraska defense has some better players than i thought. suh gets alot of attention but that front 7 plays with him very well. #52 i always notice making plays when i watch them. good thing about bowl season is u get to see alot of guys u may not have paid attention to or get to see. i know never heard of chris johnson when he was at ecu until the combine came up.
December 5th, 2009 at 11:48 pm
I was watching a bunch of games and saw Lloyd and was immediately impressed. He is cat quick and physical. I saw CJ the same way just cahnging channels and happened across him and couldn’t believe he wasn’t talked abut more. I called the Raiders and raved about the kid, we took a look but Kiffin was sold on DMC.
But Lloyd is a player he just is an underclassman so he’ll need to declare.
December 5th, 2009 at 11:51 pm
Oh! he plays for UConn
December 6th, 2009 at 12:04 am
# SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
December 5th, 2009 at 10:27 pm
If you are committed to building up a team from the ground up….start with the freekn defense. Every team trying to bring up a young QB, or just a young offense, has a running game and a competitive defense.
And to build a defense you need a strong front 7.
1. Get a boss DT
2. Get a real deal LB (MLB, SLB, WLB)
3 Use the 3rd, 4th and 5th rounds to find a RT, RG, C
For goodness sakes….please pass on Taylor Mays
^^^^^^^^^^
Suh should be priority #1 for our NEW GM/PERSONNEL MAN next year (hope the stubborn old man isn’t the one making picks again)
DT Suh should be the pick IF he is there. Getting Suh and keeping Seymour will allow them to get rid of Warren or Kelley. The next priority should be a BEAST MLB and then drafting a RT and RG. If they keep L Walker around next year, I think they should move him to RG to provide more power to the run game.
The additions will not matter though if the dumb old man doesn’t get with the times and change the offensive and defensive schemes and hires a REAL GM and REAL Head Coach!
December 6th, 2009 at 12:06 am
# armond Says:
December 5th, 2009 at 10:48 pm
suh and spikes should be early targets but when the combine comes u know some really good players will fall for the dummest reasons. scott is a much better athlete than brayton was but i need to see more before i say its a great move. the good thing is scott will have 6 games to see if he fits. i hope he does then that lessons the need to get 2 starters at lb. morrison needs to go. ive seen enuff of him to know we need to move on. we could aslo get arenas from bama in the mid rnds. i dont think he will be an early pick, maybe 3rd rnd. we could use his return ability.
^^^^^^^^Suh and Spikes or Suh and McLain would be a great first two picks in the draft.
December 6th, 2009 at 12:07 am
# SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
December 5th, 2009 at 10:27 pm
If you are committed to building up a team from the ground up….start with the freekn defense. Every team trying to bring up a young QB, or just a young offense, has a running game and a competitive defense.
And to build a defense you need a strong front 7.
1. Get a boss DT
2. Get a real deal LB (MLB, SLB, WLB)
3 Use the 3rd, 4th and 5th rounds to find a RT, RG, C
For goodness sakes….please pass on Taylor Mays
^^^^^^^^^^
Suh should be priority #1 for our NEW GM/PERSONNEL MAN next year (hope the stubborn old man isn’t the one making picks again)
DT Suh should be the pick IF he is there. Getting Suh and keeping Seymour will allow them to get rid of Warren or Kelley. The next priority should be a BEAST MLB and then drafting a RT and RG. If they keep L Walker around next year, I think they should move him to RG to provide more power to the run game.
The additions will not matter though if the dumb old man doesn’t get with the times and change the offensive and defensive schemes and hires a REAL GM and REAL Head Coach!
Oh and the other important pickup needs to be for a vet QB. They need to seriously consider trading for Vick. He will be cheap and he will be willing to prove himself to earn a higher paycheck.
December 6th, 2009 at 12:10 am
# KoolKell Says:
December 5th, 2009 at 12:35 pm
Elitist Progressive?
Why is it that republicans hate education?
^^^^^^^^^^
It’s obvious. Because they don’t want people to realize how crooked the GOP/Republicans are.
They want to brainwash the dumb people of this country and they do a pretty good job of it.
December 6th, 2009 at 12:13 am
# priesttj Says:
December 5th, 2009 at 6:26 pm
I know you guy’s hate Big Al, but he aint in the HOF for his looks. He can fart more football knowledge than all you lames can muster in a year.
Haters hate and doers do. That’s why he’s doing it and y’all are in here every-damn-day hating. Sad!!
^^^^^^^^Yeah….the old senile man aint doing nothing but LOSING and making a fool of himself by ruining the franchise.
Yeah, thats something to be proud of….sheesh…
December 6th, 2009 at 12:45 am
He biult the franchise to be what it is so if anybody has the right to do whatever he’s doing it’s him. If anybody deserves the opportunity to turn things around I’ll give it to him. Wether he does it or not it’ his right he earned it. So if you don’t like what’s going on take your ass someplace else………..period
December 6th, 2009 at 12:47 am
I like the idea of beefing up the middle of our defense. A DT and a MLB would be perfect to cement out defense. I think Warren needs to go or take a pay cut and be a backup. Kelly is playing better this year but still isn’t solid enough to be earning the kind of money he’s earning now.
On offense, let’s bring in a bit of leadership in a good veteran like we did with Seymore and Ellis on Defense. A good WR, would be great! Like J. Rice did for us late in his carreer.
December 6th, 2009 at 12:50 am
I’d say a Beast DT, MLB on Defense priorities.
A new RT, a Vet WR and viable competition at QB are the priorities on Offense.
In the draft we can try to pick up some depth in a RG, another WR, but I’d draft in priority MLB, RT, DT.
December 6th, 2009 at 1:16 am
Al has the right to stay owner, and we have the right to protest him, priest. Nobody’s rights are being impeded on. So tone down the drama just a tad bit.
December 6th, 2009 at 1:17 am
# priesttj Says:
December 5th, 2009 at 6:26 pm
I know you guy’s hate Big Al, but he aint in the HOF for his looks. He can fart more football knowledge than all you lames can muster in a year.
………………
It doesn’t show on the field anymore, priest. And that’s all that matters.
December 6th, 2009 at 1:28 am
# priesttj Says:
December 6th, 2009 at 12:45 am
He biult the franchise to be what it is so if anybody has the right to do whatever he’s doing it’s him. If anybody deserves the opportunity to turn things around I’ll give it to him. Wether he does it or not it’ his right he earned it. So if you don’t like what’s going on take your ass someplace else………..period
^^^^^^^^
Yeah….just like it’s MY right to tell it like it is….and to see that this team will NOT consistently WIN again as long as he is making the stupid and unwise football and personnel decisions!
Al Davis SUCKS!
December 6th, 2009 at 3:13 am
I think Al Davis deserves the right to run his organization. But, I’d add the stipulation that it should be run in order to get the most wins as opposed to be right and hold rigidly an unworkable mode of operation.
Just per how to improve things:
You look at what you did. Did it improve the scene or worsen it. Are the statistics improving or worsening? Oh, they’re worsening. Good, what do I need to CHANGE so they’ll improve? Not, just keep trying the same thing over and over and keep seeing that it doesn’t work.
Prior to Bruce Allen as GM I don’t think we had a GM. We had mediocre-to-bad years prior to him and Gruden coming. I think Al Davis had a lot of input in the success of the Gruden years, but he also deffered some decisions and took input from others. He is failing and running things himself without any GM and with new head coaches that wouldn’t be taken into consideration as a Head Coach by any of the other organizations. Gruden was a good find. But, I remember he was thought of as an up-and-coming coordinator and Head Coaching candidate before he was hired. If he wasn’t hired by the Raiders he would’ve been a Head Coach with someone else.
So, PLEASE, get a GM or someone you trust to lean on a little bit Mr. Davis!
December 6th, 2009 at 5:58 am
Some one needs to step up and call bishes out. Its not the system, its not the refs, its YOU the players!!!
Refuse to lose!
December 6th, 2009 at 6:08 am
FREE 4EVA!!!
December 6th, 2009 at 6:32 am
Commitment to Excellence + Just Win Baby = Results Matter…
Mr Davis… RESULTS MATTER !!!!
December 6th, 2009 at 6:48 am
The Portland Jinx continues. Greg Oden=Sam Bowie=Bill Walton.
December 6th, 2009 at 6:51 am
ATTENTION
Trade up for Suh!!!!!
Texas – Alabama for the nat champ
Going by yesterdays games I would say Texas is due for an arsewhupping. But Alabama deserved to lose to the Kiffins and got by with the same kind of “luck” at the end of the game.
I still take Bama. They looked great.
December 6th, 2009 at 7:06 am
I just saw highlights from the game. That was a joke. It looks like the cornhuskers were treated like Raiders by the refs.
What was McCoy and the coaches thinking when they let the clock tick down and almost threw away the game.
December 6th, 2009 at 7:09 am
Wheres Jerry ????
447 comments since the last post C’MON MAN it’s game day!!! goooooooo raiders.
i may be pissed but for the next half day i still want a win.
i hope Tomlin has to eat that ” unleash hell ” comment.
December 6th, 2009 at 7:12 am
oh yeah somebody please knock the soup outta hines ward for me !!!!!!!
December 6th, 2009 at 7:13 am
I think the Horned Frogs or the Bearcats would give Alabama a better game then Texas will.
December 6th, 2009 at 7:15 am
Jerry was last see at Mcdonalds on Main Street Friday morning and has not been seen since.
Pray for him
December 6th, 2009 at 7:17 am
I really like Tomlin. He seems to measure everything he says before he says it.
I am suprised he threw that one out there.
December 6th, 2009 at 7:19 am
I dont want to see TCU-Ciny – Boise
I want them to play a school from the big confrences and I wnat to see them kick butt
December 6th, 2009 at 7:21 am
Just listened to Brian Kellys post game PC.
He sounds like a Golden Domer Homer to me.
December 6th, 2009 at 7:47 am
I remember the butt-kicking Boise State gave Oklahoma
3 yrs ago. If they are the best, there should be a new BCS system to prove it. The current way sucks!
December 6th, 2009 at 7:48 am
Nnamdi21 Says:
December 6th, 2009 at 5:58 am
Some one needs to step up and call bishes out. Its not the system, its not the refs, its YOU the players!!!
Refuse to lose!
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Isn’t that the job of the GM to not only call out the players…but replace them if they are no good?
December 6th, 2009 at 7:50 am
Nnamdi21,
Perhaps the GM should STOP bringing in players that can’t STEP UP!
December 6th, 2009 at 7:51 am
The longhorns are mediocre – as I have said all season long. They’ve benefited from a bad conference and an extremely weak non-conference schedule. They only won last night because Nebraska’s kicker is a complete idiot. He gave them an extra 15 yards to start that last drive – the second most boneheaded play I have ever seen in a Big XII title game. The most boneheaded play came a few minutes later when Colt threw that ball out of bounds. The officials made the right call – there was still a second left. But what a moron. It will be criminal if they give him the Heisman after that crap. That’s Jamarcus-quality play right there.
December 6th, 2009 at 7:55 am
Plunketthead Says:
December 6th, 2009 at 7:17 am
I really like Tomlin. He seems to measure everything he says before he says it.
I am suprised he threw that one out there.
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Good on Tomlin. Perhaps Cable should say more than “we’re close” or “he runs violently” meanwhile the team has 3 f’n wins.
Good on Tomlin. He’s upset and his team is 6 – 5. THAT’S COMMITMENT TO EXCELLENCE
Praising a team’s offense for being “close”….I don’t even want to describe what that means
December 6th, 2009 at 7:56 am
Plunketthead Says:
December 6th, 2009 at 7:13 am
I think the Horned Frogs or the Bearcats would give Alabama a better game then Texas will.
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Last years Mountain West champion (Utah) smoked Alabama last year in the Sugar Bowl.
And this years TCU teams is better than Utah was last year. It should be TCU-Alabama.
Texas doesn’t deserve it. Big 12 is garbage.
December 6th, 2009 at 7:57 am
They showed Richard Seymour entering the building.
He had the look of someone who got robbed
December 6th, 2009 at 8:01 am
RaidingTexas Says:
December 6th, 2009 at 7:51 am
The longhorns are mediocre – as I have said all season long. They’ve benefited from a bad conference and an extremely weak non-conference schedule. They only won last night because Nebraska’s kicker is a complete idiot. He gave them an extra 15 yards to start that last drive
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Division I College Football is a joke. Outside of a handfull of SEC, Big 10, Big 12 teams and USC, who really cares about the BCS championship.
The real point to playing college football in the rest of the country is to win the conference, build school camraderie and showcase talent for the NFL.
The idea of a championship is a joke.
Let the South and USC have its fun….
NFL is a much better overall product…present company excluded
December 6th, 2009 at 8:05 am
Arizona got lucky yesterday!
December 6th, 2009 at 8:06 am
Hey Vegas, where are you watchin the game?
December 6th, 2009 at 8:07 am
All right time for Bruce to state his case for 2010. Not the easiest group of opponents he has faced, Cincy than at Dallas and Pittsburgh.
The Jamarcus era is over. My sources told me he is in a bad place right now. I have given up on Russell the NFL QB, and kind of hope he gets it together as Jamarcus Russell the man. When the shyt hits this offseason, remember I told you first.
December 6th, 2009 at 8:07 am
R8eray,
I will be down at the Hilton theater. You live in Vegas?
December 6th, 2009 at 8:12 am
bye Aliante Station!
December 6th, 2009 at 8:14 am
vegas raider Says:
December 6th, 2009 at 8:07 am
All right time for Bruce to state his case for 2010. Not the easiest group of opponents he has faced, Cincy than at Dallas and Pittsburgh.
The Jamarcus era is over. My sources told me he is in a bad place right now. I have given up on Russell the NFL QB, and kind of hope he gets it together as Jamarcus Russell the man. When the shyt hits this offseason, remember I told you first.
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THat’s because the Raiders have the most inept front office in the NFL.
At least the other young QBs that are struggling are in shape. Russell gave up and the STUPID / INEPT coaching staff/GM didn’t push the guy.
Whisenhunt and Fisher pushed their guys to get better by benching them earlier, providing them with good coaching and some talent around them.
Russell….given the worst supporting cast in the NFL, given excuses to show up overweight and slothful, and finally allowed him to play without understanding the playbook.
Perhaps if the idiots on this staff had addressed this nonsense back in May or July…we would be in a differnt place.
This team has gaps all over the place
ANd now we have to waste time with “Grads”
Unlike years past, the team appeared to be building to something.
Not this year. Still running Fargas, running DHB, and a bunch of tomato cans on the O-Line.
And the incompetent coach thinks everything is fine.
WHAT A FREEKN JOKE!
December 6th, 2009 at 8:15 am
I have a couple of friends who might be with me, I don’t know if they are still playing this morning in a softball tournament.
If not I will be flying solo. I think I am going to wear my old C-Wood jersey.
You never been to the Hilton theater? Dude, once you go, you won’t ever go back.
December 6th, 2009 at 8:17 am
SnB,
Tell us how you really fell SnB, lol??
I hear you, as much as Russell is blowing his big chance, the Raiders have to be accountable to drafting guys that LOVE football and is willing to work hard. Jamarcus is neither of those.
At least DHB seems to care and is improving and working hard. If we can just get over that little pesky thing…..catching the ball.
December 6th, 2009 at 8:17 am
Its that bad, huh? : )
December 6th, 2009 at 8:26 am
Plunketthead,
I have a bit of admiration for those of you that can look past the losing.
I can’t look past the poor decision making because there are no signs that anything is getting better.
In years past the team was TRYING to build towards something in December.
Now we have no QB at all. The running game is a rank joke (Fargas is NOT A STARTER….I don’t care how VIOLENTLY HE HITS THE HOLE)
You know…when the HELL does production come into play here.
Its like I am watching rec league. Never have I ever seen a professional football team be lauded for effort in my life. “We’re Close” “He runs violently” “Just missed a couple of big plays”
God almighty….you think a guy like Parcells would be saying…”well we played well, just give up a few big plays”
Its December and once again, the games don’t matter!
December 6th, 2009 at 8:31 am
vegas raider Says:
December 6th, 2009 at 8:17 am
SnB,
Tell us how you really fell SnB, lol??
I hear you, as much as Russell is blowing his big chance, the Raiders have to be accountable to drafting guys that LOVE football and is willing to work hard. Jamarcus is neither of those.
At least DHB seems to care and is improving and working hard. If we can just get over that little pesky thing…..catching the ball.
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DHB is not talented enough. Look at the production from guys like Maclin, Harvin, Crabtree, Britt, Nicks, Jackson last yr…
This guy doesn’t have it. All he is is speed. DHB needed to be drafted in the late 1st or probably 2nd round and given time to be eased into the lineup.
The Raiders’ track record of rebuilding players of late is sketchy.
Bring back Arman Shields…(LOL)
December 6th, 2009 at 8:35 am
And let’s not forget that these guys are being paid a ton of money to deliver more than effort.
Russell should be in excellent shape at a minimum
DHB should be catching the ball at least at the same level as Murphy (7th overall gentlemen!)
DMC…needs to take a look at Chris Johnson and Adrian Peterson
Gallery…..average left guard…whoohooo
Guys like Huff, Morrison, Howard…all average at best
And all of these guys are inconsistent….consistency is the difference between being good and getting cut!
December 6th, 2009 at 8:37 am
DHB should not have been on the field the last few weeks, but again the only silver-lining is he gets “the little things”.
Great blocker, hard-worker, improving his craft, and is light years ahead on his route running than he was at the beginning of the year. This with Sanjay Lal coaching him.
Again, it’s just that catching the ball thing, LOL.
I have no doubt he will be a better pro than Russell and Darren. That might not be saying much, but I think it will hold true.
December 6th, 2009 at 8:38 am
vegas raider Says:
December 6th, 2009 at 8:37 am
DHB should not have been on the field the last few weeks
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Sorry meant, first few weeks , not last few….
Argghh…
December 6th, 2009 at 8:39 am
2009 Run Defense: 31st out of 32 teams AGAIN!
So why is the run defense this bad AGAIN! I thought getting rid of Rob Ryan was going to fix everything.
What happened?
December 6th, 2009 at 8:39 am
R8eray,
So should I expect to see you at the Hilton? We can use all the support. There is usually a lot of Steeler fans there, and than you have to also account for everybody that bets against the Raiders.
Every week feels like a road game in there.
December 6th, 2009 at 8:40 am
SnB
I cant change things. I just accept what I cannot change. My ex was a Bronco fan and we were together during the Elway years. I spent many years being upset with the Raiders and my ex rubbing it in about what a bonehead Al and the team was.
I look around the league and I dont see any proof that a new GM and a new Coach = proven success. It is not that easy. I wish Al would hire a GM and let go, step back, and retire.
However that does not mean we will be successful.
December 6th, 2009 at 8:51 am
Plunketthead,
My standards are not as lofty as yours.
I just want a competitive team that can be in the playoff hunt to right about now.
I know that winning is very difficult because Davis doesn’t value good coaching and coaching is a big deal in the modern NFL.
I’ve watched the Raiders for 25 years. They’ve largely been bad that entire time. But it was fun to watch because they were largely competitive…even though not successfull.
Now its just utter garbage! No improvement on the horizon and a bunch of players that are hapless at best!
Davis can’t even put out a team that can just compete?
I love raider football…and this team is not even on the fringes of the hunt for the SEVENTH YEAR IN A ROW.
Wow!
December 6th, 2009 at 8:56 am
Vegas said
I have no doubt he will be a better pro than Russell and Darren. That might not be saying much, but I think it will hold true.
I agree. However I think he will become a #1 WR
December 6th, 2009 at 8:58 am
Raiders Inactives:
Darrius Heyward-Bey WR
David Nixon LB
Khalif Barnes OT
Erik Pears OT
Javon Walker WR
Nick Miller WR
Greg Ellis DE
Charlie Frye 3rd QB
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So we are keeping Javon Walker on the roster because?????
EVen with DHB on ice this week (good thing) Walker can’t get on the active list?
This is the B.S that leads one to believe that winning isn’t the number 1 thing.
Two roster spots locked up by Javon Walker and Nick Miller.
Just cut walker! Why these petty games…..
Oh well
December 6th, 2009 at 8:59 am
Oh, Khalif Barnes….can’t get on the active roster either.
What a joke! And he was supposed to be an answer to this O-Line.
Any team that can’t provide competition for Cornell Green and Cooper Carlisle is in bad shape
December 6th, 2009 at 9:01 am
A Chris Johnson, Adrian Pederson and Maurice Jones-Drew can get a bad team to competitive.
Meanwhile, DMAC and Bush can’t beat out a backup running back in Fargas.
DID THE F’N COACHES TAKE A YEAR OFF?
December 6th, 2009 at 9:05 am
I hope Louis Murphy goes lights-out this week with Darius Bust on inactive this week.
If “Grads” LOL…can do anything…have this popgun QB get the ball to Murphy.
Hopefully Murphy can render DH-Bust irrelevant!
Go Murphy!
December 6th, 2009 at 9:06 am
DHB is inactive???
Dammit Jerry, throw us a bone here!!!
December 6th, 2009 at 9:10 am
Did we ever find out what happened to DHB?
One reason I like him is he has played every game and stayed healhty. I hope its something minor.
December 6th, 2009 at 9:10 am
morning peeps,
any of you guys watch SUH the DT from Nebraska almost single handedly won the game for Nebraska last nite. It’s a shame we wont get a shot at him. he’ll be the #1 or 2 pick next to PIke.
December 6th, 2009 at 9:10 am
NFL ending $100M in revenue sharing
By Chris Mortensen
ESPN
Archive
Cowboys owner Jerry Jones was fined at least $100,000 in September for violating a gag order by suggesting that revenue sharing was on its way out.
Turns out, he was only tipping the owners’ hand.
In a significant move that could impact the flow of money to potential free agents and the competitive balance of teams, the NFL has notified the players’ union that, effective next March, owners will pull the plug on the $100-million-per-year revenue-sharing program that has subsidized lower-revenue clubs, multiple sources said.
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Subsidy could be running out.
December 6th, 2009 at 9:11 am
Last time I was at the Hilton, I was watching Bruce lead a second-half comeback victory.
Anything close to that and I will be happy.
Enjoy, be back afterwards.
December 6th, 2009 at 9:13 am
Hope we give the Steelers a good game – I’m excited for Richardson and Shaughnessy stepping up – let’s see more of them! Let’s also get some decent offence going! Go Raiders! We probably won’t win but a positive game will do a world of good against a team fighting for a playoff spot, coming off an SB win!
December 6th, 2009 at 9:13 am
Vegas
Whats the news on JR,
women issues?
drinking issues?
drugging issues?
fat arse laziness issues?
mental issues?
All of the above?
December 6th, 2009 at 9:15 am
I think DHB being out for a week will be interesting – It’ll probably be good for him to watch Schilens from the sidelines and it’ll also lessen the chances of us throwing INTs due to huge plays DHB isn’t making atm…
December 6th, 2009 at 9:27 am
Thank goodness DHB is out.
He needed to be benched outright.
Let’s see what Murphy can do.
Come-on “Grads” LOL….get Murphy the ball.
I want 6 for 150 2TDs….or whatever it will take to KEEP DHB ON THE BENCH!
December 6th, 2009 at 9:30 am
snb,
at least we know going into this game we can catch the ball on both sides of the field.
December 6th, 2009 at 9:31 am
to bad we can’t make Uncle Junior (Al) inactive…bout time DHB sat and watched, maybe he and JR could share a blanket on the bench…
December 6th, 2009 at 9:37 am
This was actually a game that DHB could have got some action. Pitts DB’s have been givin it up the last few weeks, and they’re undersized. Polamalu is out again, Zach should be able to get his short in the middle, but the real way to beat the Steelers is outside.
JR should be playing in this game!!
Go Raiders!
December 6th, 2009 at 9:39 am
JR should be playing/preparing like a “Professional QB” first…Go Grads!
December 6th, 2009 at 9:40 am
It is about time DHB sat. Whatever the reason it is a good choice.
Pitts will be playing tough. So any extra help we can get is welcomed.
Its time for the “Lou and Chaz”, “Chaz and Lou” show.
Now use more of two TE sets with the new kid Myers, and we might have something.
December 6th, 2009 at 9:47 am
I hear that VH, but we also need a guy that can THROW the ball and remain poised in the face of the impending darkness that is about to befall our offensive line.
Grad’s is gonna be river dancing 5 secs before each snap. Not much hope he makes it through the game actually.
Go Raiders!
December 6th, 2009 at 9:48 am
No, JR isn’t ready to even be a backup yet… He needs time, he might have a great arm but a great arm is no good with no accuracy or pocket presence or even huddle command…
December 6th, 2009 at 9:48 am
shcytt it’s jlh and chilens as starters.
December 6th, 2009 at 9:49 am
maybe jlh is better suited to play outside and let murphy go over the middle.
December 6th, 2009 at 9:49 am
aig Says:
December 6th, 2009 at 9:30 am
snb,
at least we know going into this game we can catch the ball on both sides of the field.
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This game becomes very interesting now. I think Murphy and Schilens and Miller gives THREE reliable pass catchers. First time all freekn year.
Schilens and Miller the main targets and Murphy in a support role…read not leading role.
Now, will the “cerebral” Tom Cable figure out a way to get DMAC involved in more than dives up the middle?
Come on guys…show some freekn life
December 6th, 2009 at 9:49 am
BG ( The Great White Hype) played just as bad as JR, and he can’t throw the ball for more than 35 yards! Why are you people so high ok this Kid! He may work hard, but he has np talent.
December 6th, 2009 at 9:52 am
I have a good feeling about this game.
I bet we knock Ben out.
Raiders 24 Steelturds 17
December 6th, 2009 at 9:52 am
Raider O Says:
December 6th, 2009 at 9:49 am
BG ( The Great White Hype) played just as bad as JR, and he can’t throw the ball for more than 35 yards! Why are you people so high ok this Kid! He may work hard, but he has np talent.
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The QB situation is an absolute mess.
I found the silver lining for the remainder of this season!
Developing Schilens, Murphy, Miller and DMAC in the slot.
That is the redeeming value of the remainder of this season.
QB? An absolute mess!
December 6th, 2009 at 9:53 am
We should start Frye over BG! Frye has a good arm, and he played well at the Browns without any help from his offense.
December 6th, 2009 at 9:55 am
Warren Sapp:
1PM games is krytonite to the Raiders….They are still sleeping on the bus….
Come-on Sapp. You didn’t do anything to stop the slide into the abyss. You own some of this mess too!
December 6th, 2009 at 9:55 am
SnB,
I still believe JR will be a good NFL QB.
December 6th, 2009 at 9:57 am
‘Sup O?
Hooked up with a mutual friend of ours a couple of weekends ago. Let’s just say it’s been a long time!!
I’m with ya on Russell.
December 6th, 2009 at 9:57 am
I don’t like Sapp.
December 6th, 2009 at 10:01 am
Saint,
LMAO
Was it fun?
December 6th, 2009 at 10:02 am
Raider O,
Grad is a paul hackett guy and i think he gets the nod due to that over Frye.
December 6th, 2009 at 10:03 am
wow, what a terrible start.
December 6th, 2009 at 10:03 am
’twas awesome!!
December 6th, 2009 at 10:05 am
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December 6th, 2009 at 10:05 am
Saint,
When I was his age, I made a lot of mistakes! Some people have to learn the hard way. Too bad but I was one of those people.
December 6th, 2009 at 10:06 am
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