Raiders follow their (expletive) leader
By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Sunday, December 6th, 2009 at 5:39 pm in Oakland Raiders.
Great story relayed by left tackle Mario Henderson in talking with reporters after the game.
On the Raiders final drive, Henderson looked up at the big screen to see how he had carried out his assignment on the previous play.
Big mistake.
“Bruce was like, `Stop (bleeping) looking at that thing and get your mind right,’ ” Henderson said. “I looked at him like, `You talkin’ to me?’ . . . I was like, `OK, you’re right. You’re right. You the man. You the man.’ ”
Langston Walker, who said he hadn’t lined up at guard since the night in 2003 when Brett Favre lit up the Raiders on Monday NIght football, said his first time on the field with Gradkowski was impressive.
“Bruce is fiery,” Walker said. “He’s yelling at us, screaming at us, running around like a banshee, but it’s all controlled. That’s how he gets it done. You saw the result.”
Added Cornell Green: “Bruce had something about him today. I don’t know if it was being home or just letting it all hang out, but he took control of the huddle. He’s cursing at people to hurry up. He brings that to the team. He brings that fire and that’s good.”
Gradkowski said it’s all part of the job description.
“When I am out there, when I am at practice, it is my offense and that is how I’m going to lead,” Gradkowski said.
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December 6th, 2009 at 5:40 pm
1If Al has lived his dream, why won’t he retire? Whatever his so called “dream” is, he’s obviously not satisfied. Is there anyone here who knows anything about the Raiders? Or did you guys all just become fans within the past week?
December 6th, 2009 at 5:41 pm
Bye bye russell.
He has no shot of earning his job back.
Cut him
December 6th, 2009 at 5:41 pm
Raiders have been here before throughout the 7 year debacle. They beat Denver in ‘04. Beat Pittsburgh in ‘06. No big. Al will find a way to ruin this. Gradkowski will be gone next year, Russell will be starting. People who just know what’s up when it comes to the Raiders know this.
December 6th, 2009 at 5:42 pm
england
who do you think al likes more the guy he said will “be a great playuh” and fired a coach over or a guy who the the coaches want to start
December 6th, 2009 at 5:42 pm
Good show Gradkowski.
Way to seize the moment and take advantage of an opportunity. That’s all any of us ask for in life.
Good show!
December 6th, 2009 at 5:43 pm
Jerry, tell the kids the truth. Al will ruin this, and will get rid of Gradkowski. Stop teasing them.
December 6th, 2009 at 5:45 pm
“He’s a great player, get over it” – Al Davis
(hint, he wasn’t talking about gradkowski)
December 6th, 2009 at 5:47 pm
Love all the backhanded ‘player hating’ on Grads, all the guy does is work hard and play w/ everything he’s got, which most importantly is a freakin’ game brain.
Moving, exploiting mismatches, hitting targets.WINNING!
Reminded me a lot of the Snake, just getting it done in the 4th, winning time…
December 6th, 2009 at 5:48 pm
Reminds me of how GANNON was in the huddle! This is what I want to hear.
December 6th, 2009 at 5:48 pm
the raiders arent giving up on russell so stop it. they called vince young a quitter and wondered if he would ever play again a year ago but look at him now. just like vy leinart and alex smith russell is going to have to step his game up. just cuz alot of u dont think he will doesnt mean a damn thing. its up to him just like the other guys. for all the talk of wasting picks u guys better hope they pan out. huff nam and gallery took 4 years to develope so th erules of the game dont change just cuz yall want it to.
December 6th, 2009 at 5:49 pm
Henderson said. “I looked at him like, `You talkin’ to me?’
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LMFAO!
December 6th, 2009 at 5:49 pm
Van Heathen, you’re going to find out real soon that Gradkowski’s biggest hater is Al Davis. Gradkowski can be better than Manning, bottom line, he’s getting between Al and his prize, franchise QB, JaMarcus Rusell. Al is going to screw all of this up. What makes you guys think he isn’t? What’s different now?
December 6th, 2009 at 5:50 pm
finally the offensive explosion cable’s been talking about, who’d of thought without jr and dhb.
December 6th, 2009 at 5:51 pm
Jhill-i’ve never questioned his physical talent-just everything else.it is a shame someone like Gradkowski doesn’t have the physical abilities someone like Russell has.
December 6th, 2009 at 5:51 pm
Go G-Man! And MaddenRaider – no, you never shut up.
December 6th, 2009 at 5:51 pm
lost all my picks this week but raiders winning is priceless.
December 6th, 2009 at 5:51 pm
I definitely see Grads back here, no questin in my mind if he keeps this up. This team desparately needs his services for two reasons. His example is outstanding for a young Russell also he has lifted this team. If you know anything about Mr Davis he puts high premium on tough road wins. If Grads can do something similar at home next week and get a win it’s a lock he’ll be back. Big Al wants the crowd involved in this team and the crowd will get behind a blue collar balls out type like Grads and he knows that.
Lastly if he wins it’s all that matters…….period
December 6th, 2009 at 5:52 pm
jhill Says:
December 6th, 2009 at 5:51 pm
Enjoy your evening Lefty, we’ll pick it up another time. You know you’re my man 50 grand!
December 6th, 2009 at 5:52 pm
Especially if he can go on the road and win in Denver he re-sign him on the 50 yard line at postgame.
December 6th, 2009 at 5:53 pm
Armond,
I just can’t see Russell out hustling Gradkowski right now.
When Russell showed up overweight and was missing meetings….he lost me to be honest.
He’s done. I think he will have to go the Plunkett route and try and latch on with another team and resurrect his career.
Gradkowski has won over the players and he’s now a Cable guy. If Cable is back in 2010…no way Russell gets his job back!
December 6th, 2009 at 5:53 pm
it’ll be sickening to see dhb starting again next week
December 6th, 2009 at 5:54 pm
So you think Al WILL pay Grads what his agent asks for? That AND keep Russell?
Wow Priest, you really have faith in the old dude. NO WAY I see him cutting Russell and giving Kiffin the satisfaction. Not THIS offseason. That is just NOT going to happen. And Russell will NOT restructure.
If Al is smart, he extends Grads tonight.
December 6th, 2009 at 5:55 pm
Russell has 3 more year left on his contract. He’s not going ANYWHERE!
December 6th, 2009 at 5:55 pm
SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
December 6th, 2009 at 5:41 pm
Bye bye russell.
He has no shot of earning his job back.
Cut him
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+1
December 6th, 2009 at 5:57 pm
Great job, Bruce. MR, KK, are filthy libs that would try to ruin this win. Go Raiders
December 6th, 2009 at 5:58 pm
JHill,
Here’s what’s going to happen. If Gradkowski can win out…Cable will again have his job saved in the last second.
Gradkowski goes into camp the starter and Russell will have to beat him out. If Russell fails…he’s on the outs…..
Gradkowski will be signed to a middling deal and be told…hey, do it again. Maybe some incentives if he wins the job.
I just can’t see Russell doing the things a QB has to do to be successfull. Plus, he already has his money…Gradkowski has to get a job if this doesn’t work for him.
Plus Gradkowski had the benefit of learning behind a decent vet and good coaches…Russell was tutored by…Culpepper, McCown and Kiffin.
THe Raiders ruined Russell and Russell ruined himself.
This Gradkowski’s show now. Especially given that he is the undisputed leader in the lockerroom.
Russell will have to reverse 25 years of bad habits to have a chance.
December 6th, 2009 at 5:59 pm
JHill, there’s a reason they’re ignoring you. They know you’re right. Gradkowski is gone after this year, and Russell is starting next year. It’s not a matter of who’s better. When has that ever mattered to Al? It’s about who Al wants. His philosophy. they’re ignoring you because they know you’re right and Raider fans like to celebrate wins like this by fantasizing that there’s going to be more where this comes from. Raider fans dont’ deal in reality.
December 6th, 2009 at 5:59 pm
its all good
December 6th, 2009 at 5:59 pm
if grad wins at least 2 of the 4 gms left, we have to re-sign him and let it be an open competition for starter next yr. in an ideal situation of course
December 6th, 2009 at 5:59 pm
jhill Says:
December 6th, 2009 at 5:55 pm
Russell has 3 more year left on his contract. He’s not going ANYWHERE!
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He got rid of Wilson and Hall. Next year is uncapped.
December 6th, 2009 at 5:59 pm
I don’t have the power to “ruin” this victory. It’s impossible. Al Davis, on the other hand, does. And, he will. Gradkowski will be gone after this year.
December 6th, 2009 at 6:01 pm
Gradkowski has limited market value. He’s not leaving Oakland! He’s got a coach that loves him Fargas Style…he’s got Hackett who he’s familiar with…he’s got a lockerroom that loves him, and he’s got a slothful, lazy, indifferent overpaid youngster behind him.
Gradkowski will sign here for the league minimum than risk getting cut somewhere else for a few extra bucks.
Win the job and get your money the next year.
December 6th, 2009 at 6:02 pm
russell isn’t going anywhere anytime soon
December 6th, 2009 at 6:02 pm
Jhill, when did I say he will cut Russell? no way he cuts Russell unless Russell is on Drugs an d falls off the proverbial cliff. But Grads has engratiated himself with this win and if he beats Denver he will get his money bank on it. Russell will sit until that immense talent is too evident to sit.
Let’s face it, as giddy as we are right now Grads has some serious limitations. His leadership is outstanding and will but us time. He is like the journeyman QB in SF for the 49ers he will serve his purpose but all things being equal, talent always wins out.
December 6th, 2009 at 6:04 pm
What makes you think Gradkowski would get cut somewhere else? As good as you claim he is? Was that a Freudian slip, revealing that you know Gradkowski isn’t really that good anyway?
December 6th, 2009 at 6:04 pm
It makes you wonder where we would be if Bruce had got the job about week 4.
I’d say at least 6-6. Legitimately playing for something in December.
Dare to dream.
December 6th, 2009 at 6:05 pm
alot of silver and black at the mall today. l.a. still raideredout. can’t wait till they air ice cube’s doc “strait outta l.a” on espn’s 30 for 30. sounds dope
December 6th, 2009 at 6:05 pm
He didn’t draft Wilson and Hall and fire a coach over him.
If Al is smart, he resigns Grads NOW!
If you think other teams are not going to make a run at him if he can bring the “lowly Raiders” around, what do you think his agent is going to be telling other teams he can do for them?
If Al waits until the offseason to address this, and Grads wins 2 or 3 more games, it’s going to be a problem.
December 6th, 2009 at 6:05 pm
Impressive effort by BGrad, he is just what this team needs right now- a leader. Just nice to see him taking charge out there and making some plays. Hard nto believe we won a shootout but I’ll savor this one all week. I hope Russell is learning something right now
December 6th, 2009 at 6:05 pm
WE WIIN!!! What a great win i havent seen a more exciting raider game since the 02 season. RAIIDDERS!
December 6th, 2009 at 6:06 pm
Grads will buy us time until Russell is ready. we’re lucky to have his example. he is what Garcia was supposed to be. An example and a tudor for the star.
December 6th, 2009 at 6:07 pm
Gradkowski will not be here next year. You guys know Russell’s not going anywhere. Are you in denial? Is that you just don’t want to believe that Al’s going to choose Russell over Gradkowski? Or are you really that uneducated about your favorite football team?
December 6th, 2009 at 6:07 pm
If Russell doesn’t watch out….Grads will still be tutoring, but it might be someone else.
December 6th, 2009 at 6:08 pm
By far, best story of the year. thanks for sharing Jerry.
“Bruce was like, `Stop (bleeping) looking at that thing and get your mind right,’ ” Henderson said. “I looked at him like, `You talkin’ to me?’ . . . I was like, `OK, you’re right. You’re right. You the man. You the man.’ ”
December 6th, 2009 at 6:09 pm
MR
You lead the blog in number of posts…but have only said one thing.
December 6th, 2009 at 6:09 pm
Grads looked just like his mentor, Garcia, out there on the field today. Right down to the #5 and fiery demeanor in the huddle. If he can play more like this over the next few games then maybe the Raiders have themselves a QB.
Murphy MADE PLAYS today. Working his way into the end zone on the 75 yarder was a thing of beauty. Jump Ball. Winning TD.
WRs made a difference in a good way for a change.
Fargas has won me over this year more than any other. I wish DMac or Bush could win the job, but Fargas just has such a consistency in his game.
Run more screens and flat passes for DMac. He excelled at that last year. Do you hear me Cable?
Kudos to patch work o-line.
Love Huff and Branches play for the most part this year.
Nice catch Hiram.
We need a dominating Seymour performance (ala SD opener and Philly) to help get a W next week for two in a row.
No matter what else happens this year…beating the damn Steelers is always good.
One Nation Baby…
December 6th, 2009 at 6:09 pm
rmr ,
man shut the f***ck up your just a sorry two-bit baby back b**tch. we beat the steelers and yet you still continue on negative sh**t and whine on everything. quit b**tchin you prick.
December 6th, 2009 at 6:09 pm
if we add an o-line 4 next yr., we can be on to something.
December 6th, 2009 at 6:10 pm
Shades of Gannon. Gotta love it! Everytime Al brings in a big gun QB to live out his fantasy (Lamonica, Pastorini, Wilson, Schroeder, Collins…etc.), a feisty medium range fighter brings the team back. This team always succeeds in spite of Davis.
December 6th, 2009 at 6:10 pm
and add a MLB
December 6th, 2009 at 6:10 pm
Oooh, we beat the Steelers, wow! Just like we beat them 3 years ago, and it didn’t mean squat. Just like we beat Denver in ‘04, and it didn’t mean squat. BFD. Al’s going to ruin it one way or another, and you guys know it.
December 6th, 2009 at 6:11 pm
murph could of had 3 td’s today, but 2 was enough.
December 6th, 2009 at 6:12 pm
#50, yeah that too.
December 6th, 2009 at 6:12 pm
Gradkowski’s not half bad. But I want to know, why did one of you guys say earlier that he’ll sign here for the minimum because he doesnt want to get cut elsewhere? He can’t be that good if you know he’s on waivers anywhere else in the league. Personally, I think he’s better than that. And, I think he’ll go on to have a fine career, just not here. Russell’s Al’s guy. And that’s all there is to it.
December 6th, 2009 at 6:13 pm
Jhill you’re getting way ahead of yourself, Grads will not demand a ton of money on the open market. Sober up things just fell right today. He can play don’t get it twisted but he is not and I repeat is not a longterm answer. But he shows Russell what this offense is capable f if he plays well. For the first time Cable’s offense was on full display and it’s exciting.
Russell is not that far from what you saw from Grads regardless to what people in here say. he is not that far he just needs to put the time in film study and attention to detail. And he can make this offense humm…………trust me. His arm can take this offense to another level. Once he’s ready!
December 6th, 2009 at 6:14 pm
You know the old man had to be loving this game though- Nothing like beating Pittsburgh in Pittsburgh and seriously denting their playoff hopes!
December 6th, 2009 at 6:17 pm
Preist is right: Russell’s failures have little to do with Rusell. It’s DHB, Cable, no Chaz, bad o-line, coaches that intentionally gameplan for him to fail, racism, etc. It’s a good thing Gradkoswki is so damn lucky!
December 6th, 2009 at 6:17 pm
Al hasn’t cared about pittsburgh in years. Al’s enemies are the AFC West, the media, and any of his employees who second guess him.
December 6th, 2009 at 6:17 pm
priesttj Says:
December 6th, 2009 at 6:13 pm
Russell is not that far from what you saw from Grads regardless to what people in here say. he is not that far he just needs to put the time in film study and attention to detail. And he can make this offense humm…………trust me. His arm can take this offense to another level. Once he’s ready!
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What’s he waiting for Priest?
December 6th, 2009 at 6:17 pm
It is only one win against a sliding Steeler team. Win two or three more and I’ll be impressed. Especially since this team has had $87 million worth of useless busts on the field contributing nothing for most of the season (JaBustus, Dumius Heyward Bey and McFalldown)
December 6th, 2009 at 6:19 pm
There’s some tape of Russell getting all fiery like that, but it was a Burger King and nobody is sure exactly what he said.
December 6th, 2009 at 6:20 pm
MR-Yeah Russell is Al’s guy. That doesn’t matter right now.
Gradowski is a young player making his mark on the NFL. Nobody would start Russell next year if he shows up out of shape next season. You really aren’t very smart. You enjoy the losses.
December 6th, 2009 at 6:22 pm
Russell has an arm, but the rest of his body will keep him from success.
Gradowski can feel the pass rush and threw a good ball today. A 25 year old athlete making his mark on the NFL.
December 6th, 2009 at 6:23 pm
We should cut Russell tonight. That’s right, cut his fat ass, take the cap hit next year (in an uncapped year, how convenient) and give that money to Gradkowski, who will actually EARN his money.
December 6th, 2009 at 6:25 pm
LOL. Nobody would start Russell….
Nobody except Al.
December 6th, 2009 at 6:25 pm
When was the last time you saw 300 yards in the air?
That’s no bullshyt fluke win.
December 6th, 2009 at 6:28 pm
For christ sakes how about we all just celebrate a great win our team played a fine game and I am proud!
December 6th, 2009 at 6:28 pm
unholy, any other owner in the league would do just that. But you know what you guys say…there’s 31 teams in the NFL, then…
December 6th, 2009 at 6:32 pm
Game balls to:
Gradkowski – this guy took the team on his back adn willed them to win. He’s a fighter unilke Russell who is like a big out-of-shape weakling that gets punched in the face and sulks off and puts on his stocking cap.
Murphy – this kid has shown unlike our first round picks that he actually has flashes of talent and today he put it all together. He took this game when he went up and made a play on that jump ball.
O-line – these guys aren’t exactly world beaters but today they played great passs protection and gave Grads a shot.
Hiram Eugene – nice job snagging that pick in the end zone, the secondary played well but that was obviously the key play.
A very nice fun win. Gradkowski played his heart out. He has more heart and Quarterback ability in his pinkie than fat worthless lazy Russell will EVER have. If you get paid SIXTY MILLION DOLLARS and you’re too fat and lazy to even bother coming into camp in decenet shape than you have no business even being on a professional football team.
December 6th, 2009 at 6:37 pm
# priesttj Says:
December 6th, 2009 at 5:51 pm
I definitely see Grads back here, no questin in my mind if he keeps this up. This team desparately needs his services for two reasons. His example is outstanding for a young Russell also he has lifted this team.
Lastly if he wins it’s all that matters…….period
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LMFAO..Look at your sorryass JUMPING ON GRAD’S BANDWAGON, after you reamed him over and over.
· priesttj Says:
November 26th, 2009 at 2:28 pm
WOW, can it get any worse this guy is tooo small and to weak…………period
Cable, admit you’re a FOOL and put the kid back in there………period
· priesttj Says:
November 26th, 2009 at 2:56 pm
This is the way they looked last week but the defense had the Raider Nation behind them and they played well. Right now the way this QB looks is deflating them.
But at least he’s “punctual” and a fiery guy. Can’t play worth a damn, but who cares.
· priesttj Says:
November 26th, 2009 at 3:06 pm
Russell can be developed he’s just very young as I’ve been saying, Grads can’t carry his jock. He’s small with a weak arm. The anti-Russell, no potential.
· priesttj Says:
November 26th, 2009 at 4:07 pm
Russell is the future if we have a future Grads is a scrap heap bandaid. Russell has real talent to be great, Grads has no chance. If you want a chance we take it on Russell. Just common sense…….period
· priesttj Says:
November 26th, 2009 at 6:05 pm
You’ll see Russell sooner than you think. He is hands down the best QB we have anting else is ridiculous. You’ll see in the next two weeks. Russell can play and has the talent to be great. These other jokers, are just jokers.
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AND NOW YOU’RE A BIG GRAD FAN?
You run your geriatric old ass comments about how everyone in here is a fool for wanting Grad, and now you’re backtracking?
Too easy, Old Man…too too easy.
December 6th, 2009 at 6:38 pm
Translation: Stop talking about it, MR, we don’t want to talk about reality right now.
December 6th, 2009 at 6:41 pm
Damnned….we don’t play DHB and suddenly the other WRs get some playing time….and WOW they light up the boards!!!!
Now, this has as much to do with Gradowski playing an INCREDIBLE game, but also having open WRs to throw to that catch the ball that he can count on!
I hope that this keeps those guys in the starting line up and DHB slowly building up until he can really play!
December 6th, 2009 at 6:41 pm
Real MR,
You do bring up a big issue this offseason:
The PRODUCTION of Gradkowski vs. the owner’s SUPPORT for Russell.
That isn’t something to be ignored.
December 6th, 2009 at 6:42 pm
At least the win moves us farther away from a top 5 pick which we don’t know how to use, and can’t afford.
December 6th, 2009 at 6:43 pm
Random Drug Tester Says:
December 6th, 2009 at 6:42 pm
At least the win moves us farther away from a top 5 pick which we don’t know how to use, and can’t afford.
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Yes also hope they can avoid that damn 10th loss
December 6th, 2009 at 6:44 pm
Thank you, SnB.
Everyone in here is arguing over who’s better between Gradkowski and Russell. That was obviously settled today. But it doesn’t matter. It’s all about what Al Davis wants. And he’s not giving up on russell.
December 6th, 2009 at 6:45 pm
single digit loss for a year would be a welcome change.
December 6th, 2009 at 6:45 pm
McFadden is really sucking. He couldn’t even average 3 yards per carry and Fargas got 4+ yards per carry! Why is McFadden getting playing time at Bush’s expense?
Well, who gives a @#it….we won!
December 6th, 2009 at 6:47 pm
Russell’s ceiling is obviously higher…but it currently looks unattainable.
December 6th, 2009 at 6:47 pm
Mcfadden should be used like reggie bush. Gotta hand it to fargas he does have heart and runs hard
December 6th, 2009 at 6:48 pm
There once was a guy named Dan Pastorini. Al traded a lot for him. Then this guy Plunkett happened and how did Al handled it? Thank you. Now stfu Mrs.
I’m sorry we won today. hahahahahahahahaha
December 6th, 2009 at 6:50 pm
people make so many excuses for McFaadden. Bottomline, he plays with the same line that Bush and Fargas play with. Those 2 get much better numbers than mcFadden.
Cable should stop forcing McChicken legs up the middle. I have been calling for McChicken in the slot like Reggie all year. Hopefully Cable will make the adjustment at some point.
December 6th, 2009 at 6:50 pm
The real Madden HATER just STFU already you annoying piece of sh*t…GO RAIDERS!!!
December 6th, 2009 at 6:50 pm
Sure it is nice to win, especially against the defending Super Bowl champs.
But don’t forget that Baltimore beat these guys last week too, albeit without Ben.
The Steelers aren’t who we thought they were…Polamalu is a huge difference for them defensively.
December 6th, 2009 at 6:51 pm
they should use McFadden as a WR period and us him for running plays like the Vikings use Percy Harvin
December 6th, 2009 at 6:52 pm
The Raides are totally diffent team without DHB and Russ. The Raiders are HORRIBLE in the 1st round of the draft. Thank God they have done so well in the other rounds.
December 6th, 2009 at 6:52 pm
My favorite play of the game was Gradowski on the last drive making the fake throw and tucking it for a 3 yard 1st down. A very simple play but it was so heady and ballsy. I watched it like 10 times.
Murphy is a beast and the OL definitely stepped up. When Gallery went down I thought we were done. The other guys stepped up.
December 6th, 2009 at 6:53 pm
# raiderzmaverick Says:
December 6th, 2009 at 6:53 pm
# SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
December 6th, 2009 at 4:48 pm
I agree with this fans sentiment:
Russell should be on the bench. Mcfadden should just be a 3rd down/”WildCat” formation back. Fargas and Bush should split carries. Fargas always runs hard and Bush is a load. Murphy and Schillens should be the starters at receivers., and DHB should just be used on deep routes and maybe an occasional reverse
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Totally agreed. Mcfadden should be a 3rd down back, split wide as WR at times and when he is run generally to the outside in space, thrown screens etc. Bush should be the main back with Fargas splitting carries almost equally.
Bush is the most explosive (per results) and also gives a hellova pounding to the defenses.
December 6th, 2009 at 6:56 pm
RDT-they are the Stealers.it is like beating the KC,Den,or SD.the younger fans might not understand this but i’m sure the older fans on here do.
December 6th, 2009 at 6:58 pm
they should use McFadden Or DHB on punt and/or kick returns
December 6th, 2009 at 7:00 pm
We should pretend we are playing the Steeler’s every week.
December 6th, 2009 at 7:01 pm
looks like little by little Tom Cable is making Al Davis realize that His way doesnt work no more…i was surprised to see Cable make Grad the starting QB and i was even more surprised to hear that DHB didnt start this game…i think if DHB woulda played our passing game wouldnt have been this good today
December 6th, 2009 at 7:08 pm
man the raiders sure missed DHB and his .08 catches per game today !!!!!
December 6th, 2009 at 7:09 pm
hopefully we can build on this breakout game offensively. Some things still leave me wondering what is going on with the personell decisions throughout the game though.
We have a fullback returning kickoffs! WTF?
third and one and we have mcfadden running in between the tackles leaving bush on the sidelines. WTF?
we already know who is behind DHB’s playing time. Today proved he doesn’t deserve to be on the field as much as he is, YET. keeping our better options beached does not help this team.
I would like to see mcfadden used a returner. DHB as the other returner.
The salary of these young players ruin the game. Hopefully we play our best players regardless of their salary in the future. just win baby, right?
December 6th, 2009 at 7:16 pm
What the hell is Al Davis’s way?? You guy’s are so freakin’ ignorant with this anti Al Davis crap it’s beyond moronic. If Al Davis didn’t want Gradkowski he wouldn’t be here what do you think Cable sliiped in the uni and played without Davis’s knowledge. Grads runs the same damn offense Rusell runs idiot. So how did Davis’s way not work?
Everything is anti-Al with you fools. The RAIDERS WON that’s Al Davis’s way. Just because he drafted a different type of play in Russell he also drafted sveral QB’s very unlike Rusell. David Humm, Ken Stabler and Todd marinovich all you idoits can talk about is way if it doesn’t work and someone else’s if t does. All you eve say is he won’tlet coaches run their systems. When they win you say they’re running their systems.
Lunacy never relents in here.
December 6th, 2009 at 7:17 pm
AIG, just goes to show how little you know about your own team, or, religion, considering you refer to Davis as god. Al Davis only played plunkett because the guys he started in front of him got hurt. Patorini in ‘80, then Marc Wilson in ‘83. I’m glad you went back to that area because you go even further to prove my point, if Al had his way then, he would have screwed it up then, too, and the Raiders would only have 1 SB victory. The only SB victory Al ever got by just sitting back and keeping his mouth shut was SB 11. Pastorini and Wilson got hurt. You can thank that for Al having 3 rings. Go ahead, keep helping me, moron.
December 6th, 2009 at 7:18 pm
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Thec07 Says:
December 6th, 2009 at 4:46 pm
That passive quiet leader SH!T is okay for maybe college.
The main diff between Grads and BRL is leadership.
BRL is not and will not be a leader of men…
December 6th, 2009 at 7:20 pm
As far as what is Russell waiting for, dumb just doesn’t explain that question. Do you guy’s hve any idea how many teams Grads has been on and got kicked off. What was he waiting on? he has just learned to play at this level finally. Same thing Russell has to learn.
What is he waiting for? get a freakin’ clue.
We didn’t win the SB today and Grads is not league MVP I hope he continues to get better because he will need to. And I want to win so I’m in agreemet with Russell sitting until he’s ready. That could come next week who knows.
December 6th, 2009 at 7:21 pm
Very true Priest
December 6th, 2009 at 7:22 pm
What makes you think Al Davis cares which quarterback is “leader of men”, Thec? LOL. Al doesn’t even believe in all of that leadership and chemistry stuff. Thinks great players just play at their own self motivation. Russell’s his guy. Russell will start next year. Maybe this year. Al will think of something. He’ll find some way to screw all of this up.
December 6th, 2009 at 7:22 pm
xcept that i doubt it’ll be next week or this year. Hopefully he turns out to be something. I’m perfectly happy with Grad at the helm. In 3 weeks, he has shown consistent improvement. I told you all last week he found the open receiver but was 1 step off on his throws. This week he found the open receiver and was spot on.
if Cable hadn’t killed our momentum with his trick plays we would have put more points out there.
December 6th, 2009 at 7:25 pm
Priest, you can not be serious, are you?
are trying to say Al Davis does not have his hands all over this team? Did you see Namdi’s comments regarding the defensive scheme? That is not Al Davis?
Are you telling us Davis is not making Cable play DHB?
It is not coincidental the game DHB CAN NOT Play, we break out offensively. Give me a break.
December 6th, 2009 at 7:25 pm
fakemaddenraider is the most NEGATIVE poster I’ve seen. non stop negativity!! go take a Valium please!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! why do you post on this site being that you’re like the black cloud of death on here. move on old man, u should have loved this game today, must remind of the madden days oldtimer. so go take Valium and STFU.
December 6th, 2009 at 7:27 pm
GO RAIDERS!!
December 6th, 2009 at 7:27 pm
Al Davis is non stop negativity. Soon enough, you’ll find out, dumb one. Russell might even start again this year, and you guys know it. And when that happens, AIG will be giving you guys all of this stuff about long term contracts, etc., to explain it. Loyal dogs stay loyal.
December 6th, 2009 at 7:28 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
December 6th, 2009 at 7:22 pm
What makes you think Al Davis cares which quarterback is “leader of men”, Thec? LOL. Al doesn’t even believe in all of that leadership and chemistry stuff. Thinks great players just play at their own self motivation. Russell’s his guy. Russell will start next year. Maybe this year. Al will think of something. He’ll find some way to screw all of this up.
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MR, come on man, I know Mr. Davis cares, he is just living in the 70’s, and thats bad for football, and bad for business.
December 6th, 2009 at 7:28 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
December 6th, 2009 at 7:17 pm
AIG, just goes to show how little you know about your own team, or, religion, considering you refer to Davis as god. Al Davis only played plunkett because the guys he started in front of him got hurt. Patorini in ‘80, then Marc Wilson in ‘83.
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Mrs. you should learn to use google before you start putting down your facts.
After Plunkett took over he kept his fcking job you idiot. We won the SB in 80 and 83 with Plunkett you fcking idiot.
December 6th, 2009 at 7:28 pm
So joyous to see our team win, while MR goes insane…
That grease blossom Russell was the ony thing keeping Al and Cable from reigning over the NFL once again.
Peace on earth, good will toward men.
December 6th, 2009 at 7:28 pm
Raiders have been here before throughout the 7 year debacle. They beat Denver in ‘04. Beat Pittsburgh in ‘06. No big. Al will find a way to ruin this. Gradkowski will be gone next year, Russell will be starting. People who just know what’s up when it comes to the Raiders know this.
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C’mon trmr give credit where credit is due. The raiders played hard today and earned that game. In the past after that blown facemask call the raiders would have dialed it in and gave up. Yes the raiders beat the steelers in 06 but it was a fluke win because of two big td’s that lead to scores. Today the raiders got it done as a team. The d and o played their part and they showed heart. Im tough on the raiders when they lose but I give them credit when they win as well. I truly believe if gradkowski would have started the season the raiders would be in an better situation than they are now. I agree al will find a way to f this up by getting rid of grad and keepin russel, but until then i’m gonna savour the moment because its not often we get wins like this.lol
December 6th, 2009 at 7:29 pm
When we win yu guy’s all say we didn’t do it Al Davis’s way then when we win he won’t let the coaches coach their own systems which is it.
December 6th, 2009 at 7:30 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
December 6th, 2009 at 7:27 pm
Al Davis is non stop negativity.
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Yet MR is a confirmed optimist. So f’n funny.
December 6th, 2009 at 7:30 pm
If I read something that most former players have said
” Mr. Davis does tinker with the team”, I will beleive them, as they are close to the situation.
I have a lot of respect for Mr. Davis the football mind, and the elder statesman, but it is time…
Fix the org, you fix the team….
December 6th, 2009 at 7:32 pm
This team with Grads is VASTLY better than anything we saw in ‘06 while I am not in anyway giving up on Russell right now we desparately needed Grads and he is delivering the goods.
You would’ve NEVER seen an offense remotely like what we saw today in ‘06
December 6th, 2009 at 7:34 pm
Mrs. Raider,
here’s the linkie for Wilson’s gmae log in 83 you idiot…
http://www.nfl.com/players/marcwilson/gamelogs?id=WIL749592&season=1983
yeah you claim to be MaddenRaider…were you even awake during those years?
December 6th, 2009 at 7:34 pm
So Thec07, then we did win with his system right?
You can’t have it both ways.
December 6th, 2009 at 7:38 pm
Priest, I can have it anyway i want it. Fact of the matter is Mr. Davis is resposible for 100% of this mess we call the oakland raiders, which incidentally, is the worst ran NFL franchise, He runs this as if its fantasy football based on 40 times. WTF is a DHB?
Who is our personnel dept? Who drafts on day 1?
December 6th, 2009 at 7:42 pm
Thec07,
You are right that Crazy Al do stupid things but that very same attitude allows him to take gambles that pays off sometimes. Just lately it hasnt paid off much. I mean he did draft Bo Jackson right. And he gambled before in the 60’s and 70’s by taking these fringe players that nobody wanted. For the greatness of all those years were the result of him using the same attitude he is using today. Al’s strength has been his weakness in recent years.
December 6th, 2009 at 7:42 pm
then when they win who’s responsible?
what’s wrong can’t say it.
December 6th, 2009 at 7:44 pm
the 1st round draft choices by AD have been a joke in recent years. thats set oak back in b$g way. with a competent GM with the spine to and tact to keep AD happy while doing what needs to be done will turn things around. an OC would be nice too. if oak wins at least 2 more games this year, which they should do, cable will be here next year. cable seems like he motivates the team, but there’s a lot of negative press out there on him.
December 6th, 2009 at 7:44 pm
mr/mrs,two questions for ya,if you dont mind.One,was there a time in todays game that you jumped out of youre chair in celebration,or fell off the couch,after a RAIDER score? Second,will you JOIN US at the game next Sunday in Oakland? You can wear a MR shirt,or a Wash shirt,or a butthead shirt.You sir/mam are one miserable fan/hater
December 6th, 2009 at 7:46 pm
DHB not playing today helped us win. He would not be on the field if Al Davis did not meddle in personell decisions. Cable is collecting the biggest check of his coaching career and will not lose pay due to CAUSE, as ole AL likes to say. The man does not even honor his contracts.
December 6th, 2009 at 7:46 pm
Manassamauler,
Agreed. Cable can def motivate the team. However, Cable needs to get off playcalling. he should let tollner or Hacket do it. Say what we will about Cable but you know the team usually dont play this hard this time of the year with that record.
We may have fcked up this year but the efforts are there.
December 6th, 2009 at 7:47 pm
later boys.
December 6th, 2009 at 7:48 pm
Now with this one win everyone expects the wins to start coming but how with the same Mr Davis as the owner.
Make up your mind. This talent that beat the Steelers today got here the same way the so-called bust did.
Some of you are so confused it’ll make Sybil jealous.
December 6th, 2009 at 7:49 pm
Priest, Look at all my post, you know I have nothing but respect for Mr. Davis. I want nothing but the best for him, and this team. I hope he lives til he is 120.
As far as football goes, the org is ran like a science project and not ran like a 2k football franchise. I would like to see Mr. Davis retire and fire trask, herrera, taylor and who ever else in the org all the way to the janitor….. I am not one of those that cant give credit, or admit when i am wrong. So if this is Mr. Davis’s mess, he should also get credit for the victory…..
Now you admit that BRL, is not a leader of men…
December 6th, 2009 at 7:50 pm
Out of the 5,000 or so contracts he’s had with coaches and players how many has he not honored?
December 6th, 2009 at 7:54 pm
1st draft picks have been killing oakland. look at since 2004
04 gallery LT BUST at the position
05 i believe it was fabian wash CB!! LOL nuff said
06 huff FS hasm’t done anything UNTIL this season? hes gone next year
07 #1 all time BUST!!! u know the name
08. not a bust yet but hasn’t broken out yet. i think he will though
09. really bad thus far.
CRAPPY drafting by AD in the first round. unreal. get some help PLEASE and this thing can turn around.
December 6th, 2009 at 7:54 pm
Out of the 3 first round draft picks how many of them are productive this day 2009?
December 6th, 2009 at 7:55 pm
that is not the point.
December 6th, 2009 at 7:56 pm
Namdni’s comments doesnt seem to apply to this year. The Raiders have done plenty of blitzing in this game. I love the fake dropback by Trevor Scott.
December 6th, 2009 at 7:56 pm
Priest #101 makes a lot of sense people make it seem like gradkowski has been good forever but he hasnt this was his breakout game so he obviously just found something out and if he can do that with i hate to say it less talent than russell than why cant russell do it
December 6th, 2009 at 7:56 pm
Or even better, how many of our top draft picks were on the field when we won the game?
December 6th, 2009 at 7:56 pm
Can someone identify our player personel department, and how many people and or scouts we have in it?
December 6th, 2009 at 7:57 pm
jmeds Says:
December 6th, 2009 at 7:56 pm
Or even better, how many of our top draft picks were on the field when we won the game?
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That was too Easy Bruh. wanted the great minds on the blog to think a little bit….
December 6th, 2009 at 7:57 pm
Russell lacks commitment. he is committed to the clubs, trees, and boos. Go figure.
December 6th, 2009 at 7:59 pm
I have nothing but respect for Al Davis but an 80 year-old man has no business running a franchise on his own.
December 6th, 2009 at 7:59 pm
I want to thank DHB for this victory.
Hey man, if you hadn’t gotten injured, we wouldn’t have won.
December 6th, 2009 at 8:00 pm
16yearsold,
It would be different if Jamarcus was putting in the time. I wouldnt care if he was struggling. A breakout game would be around the corner, but he is not. Even his old College player Bowe was calling him our.
Jamarcus has more talent in his toe then Gradowski, but Grad has he heart and you cant teach that. Jamarcus is a bust. The Gradowski era is here
December 6th, 2009 at 8:00 pm
Do we even have a player personnel dept?
December 6th, 2009 at 8:01 pm
According to Priest, the decision to play DHB every week is all Tom Cable’s decision.
December 6th, 2009 at 8:01 pm
Jmeds, you don’t know what he doing if it’s on his own or has tons of help. It’s all speculation and conjecture.
December 6th, 2009 at 8:02 pm
6 consecutive UNPRODUCTIVE drafts in the first round. that has killed this team. imagine how stacked oak could be with proven veterans or linemen with that money. oh well. mayebe it’ll change next year with AD taking a DT,OT or MLB in the first round.
December 6th, 2009 at 8:03 pm
BRL is not a leader of men. Read hendersons comments…
BRL should have never been drafted, he has set this franchise back several years, all by himself.
How does the leader of this great franchise come to camp out of shape. WTF does he think this is checkers?
BRL is not a leader of men, grads is a better leader than him, and thats what the team needs.
Question is BRL one of the team leaders?
HELL F@CKIN NO….
December 6th, 2009 at 8:05 pm
Thec07, post#142 is exactly my point. Speculation and conjecture. You guy’s don’t have a clue as what you’re talking about you’re frustrated with the losses and make all kinds of ignorant statements that have zero shred of truth to them. Just say you hate the dude and be done with it you’d sound smarter.
December 6th, 2009 at 8:05 pm
DHB has not earned his job. I have my issues with the way Cable utilizes our personell throughout the game but have no doubts Al Davis determined he wanted DHB on the field. How do explain a healthy Javon Walker not playing when our passing offense has been anemic until, what do you know, our starting qb and reciever are benched and hurt respectively. Proof is in the pudding.
December 6th, 2009 at 8:07 pm
The Raiders beat the Steelers IN Pittsburg, 25 degree temps.
Incomprehensible.
December 6th, 2009 at 8:08 pm
priesttj Says:
December 6th, 2009 at 8:05 pm
Thec07, post#142 is exactly my point. Speculation and conjecture. You guy’s don’t have a clue as what you’re talking about you’re frustrated with the losses and make all kinds of ignorant statements that have zero shred of truth to them. Just say you hate the dude and be done with it you’d sound smarter.
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TJ, you obivously have some insight so enlighten us Bruh?
Or better yet take the comments I made out of context…
TJ, answer the follwing since you have insight Bruh
Thec07 Says:
December 6th, 2009 at 7:56 pm
Can someone identify our player personel department, and how many people and or scouts we have in it?
December 6th, 2009 at 8:09 pm
manassamauler,
The Raiders are HORRIBLE in the 1st round but do great in the later rounds:
Branch, Miller, Bush, Shaughnessy, Richardson, Murphy, Chaz, T. Scott, Mario.
Can we trade the 1st round 2010 pick now!
December 6th, 2009 at 8:09 pm
raidertay im just saying how do we know if grad was putting in the time before he got to oakland and how do we know if russell is putting in the time now that he has seen that the job wont be handed to him
December 6th, 2009 at 8:09 pm
Davis sucks at drafting in the first round. Our first round picks have sucked for years. We could have Calvin Johnson, Clady, and Crabtree. Davis needs to read the billboard and smell the coffee.
December 6th, 2009 at 8:10 pm
somebody just has to stand up the old man davis. maybe cable has done that. now oak needs a GM that can do the same. and javon walker not being out there this season SEEMS to be about AD on a powertrip. no excuse for the most experienced receiver to not be out there, especially with rookies. inexcusable
December 6th, 2009 at 8:11 pm
thec07, go to the website
kk, who’s gloating i’m happy we won and you should be too but you’re too busy hating.
December 6th, 2009 at 8:13 pm
16, they don’t know they just make statements blogging is the best thing that ever happened for some they have no friends and no life.
December 6th, 2009 at 8:15 pm
i think the raider defense is close to be really good. they just need a REAL MLB that hits people.raiders have hole at RT and DT iMO. but drafting a hard hitting MLB would take this defense to another level. I have no idea who’s coming out next year in the draft.
December 6th, 2009 at 8:17 pm
mm,
how is that possible when mr davis picks all the players, you say he’s incompetent?
December 6th, 2009 at 8:19 pm
LOL, KK the mortgage pimp is so bitter. What kind of “fan” gets this unhappy when their team finally plays well?
December 6th, 2009 at 8:21 pm
16,
I dont think his boy Bowe would be calling him out if he was putting the time in.
Maybe Russell has turned over a new leaf since being benched. I dont know. i would think we would have heard about it by now. I hope so.
December 6th, 2009 at 8:21 pm
Priest, you have a thing for JR, that much is obvious. Regardless of the lack of references, you can listen to gradkowski and see he wants it. There is no doubt in my mind he was born with those tools. Russell may bounce back, but will not unless he changes his ways. All the talent in the world does not win championships. Commitment to excellence does!
December 6th, 2009 at 8:22 pm
post 158,ask Armond for info,seems to be on the draft,year around.Armond, you around?
December 6th, 2009 at 8:22 pm
Preist, Do you currently or have you ever worked for the org?
December 6th, 2009 at 8:22 pm
2010 draft
round 1 MLB if there is anybody?
round 2 RT
round 3 DT
round 4 RG
round 5 RB mcfadden and bush have not proven to be solid RBs, competition is good
round 6 SLB bye bye injury prone ricky brown
round 7 no idea
December 6th, 2009 at 8:23 pm
16, that is not true Bowe didn’t call him out. He just said that he should do what he did when they were in school. He wasn’t negative he was encouraging him.
December 6th, 2009 at 8:24 pm
Preist, With all your “wisdom” please tell me our organization is ran like a typical NFL franchise of the 2k’s….
December 6th, 2009 at 8:25 pm
i didnt say he was putting the time in before im just saying we dont know if gradkowski was putting in the work before he got to oakland and we dont know if russell started putting more time in after he saw that someone with a percieved talent level so far below his could start over him and jerry did say he saw russell stay after practice throwing one time
December 6th, 2009 at 8:26 pm
I’m a fan, always have been
December 6th, 2009 at 8:26 pm
AD controls the first round IMO, maybe the second round, not the later rounds.
December 6th, 2009 at 8:26 pm
BRL doesnt know the playbook, is not dedicated to the game, came in out of shape, is not a leader….
But he does have a great arm…
December 6th, 2009 at 8:27 pm
No his LSU O-Lineman on the Bengal’s called him out for being lazy in College and said he wasn’t surprised JR was struggling…keep on glossing it over
December 6th, 2009 at 8:28 pm
vanheathen when did that happen i want to see a link or something and its not because im defending russel i just want to see for myself
December 6th, 2009 at 8:28 pm
I dont have to buy a sit and spin, the spin master extrodinaire is in full display….
December 6th, 2009 at 8:29 pm
Listen to the braodcast on NFL.Com, it was between the two talking heads covering the game…
December 6th, 2009 at 8:30 pm
BRL should never weight more than 250….
J Freeman 6′6″ 248…Oh let me guess BRL has a thyroid
Fat LAZY F@CK…..
December 6th, 2009 at 8:31 pm
Thec07, it’s run like every other franchise but we have falllen on hard times someone like Grads can turn that for us. We desparately needed some juice and he’s provided that. Now let’s see where it takes us. If we can get a season or two out of him until Russell is ready it could be exactly what we need. There is nothing that any other org. has that we don’t. We’ve simple lacked leadership at the QB position for 6 years and it looks like we might have something. More importantly we need Cable back.
December 6th, 2009 at 8:31 pm
Kansas City Chiefs wide receiver Dwayne Bowe is friends with Oakland Raiders quarterback JaMarcus Russell. And as a friend and former LSU teammate, Bowe thinks it’s time for Russell to step up and display some innate leadership qualities. “He’s kind of a laid-back guy,” Bowe told reporters during a conference call today. “I told him he’s got to be more (of a leader), not screaming in guys’ faces, but going to the side, tell them what they did wrong or afterwards, stay an extra hour or focus to improve your game and he said he’s going to start that up.” Bowe pointed out that Russell was regarded as a quiet country boy upon arriving at LSU before later organizing extra film sessions and meetings as he grew in confidence. “I know what he can do,” Bowe said. “It’s just, when can he do it? And I told him, his time is running out in the NFL. I want to see now, and I want to see a year from now, feeling up to it. You have to take into consideration to take the show yourself and he just feels like he’s young and he’s got a lot of older guys in front of him that’s kind of mentoring him. But I said, You’re the quarterback on that team; you’re going to be the franchise player. You need to be the franchise. I told him, you need to take over every drill, every meeting, and just see how it goes.”
December 6th, 2009 at 8:33 pm
priesttj Says:
December 6th, 2009 at 8:31 pm
Thec07, it’s run like every other franchise but we have falllen on hard times someone like Grads can turn that for us. We desparately needed some juice and he’s provided that. Now let’s see where it takes us. If we can get a season or two out of him until Russell is ready it could be exactly what we need. There is nothing that any other org. has that we don’t. We’ve simple lacked leadership at the QB position for 6 years and it looks like we might have something. More importantly we need Cable back.
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disagree Bruh….. No way this franchise is run like a typical franchise. The franchise is Mr. Davis Period
December 6th, 2009 at 8:33 pm
I agree w/ Manassamauler. AD is calling the 1st round picks. He said so when they picked JR. There is no way the first round picks can be so bad and the later rounds so good.
December 6th, 2009 at 8:34 pm
Thec07, Russell needs to be in condition more than wieght his playing wieght is 255-60 but if he’s in condition he is much better. Russell isn’t lazy he’s immature. Big diffference!
December 6th, 2009 at 8:34 pm
# manassamauler Says:
December 6th, 2009 at 8:15 pm
i think the raider defense is close to be really good. they just need a REAL MLB that hits people.raiders have hole at RT and DT iMO. but drafting a hard hitting MLB would take this defense to another level. I have no idea who’s coming out next year in the draft.
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I agree, it may be a BIG, space eating DT and a Solid RUN-STOPPING MLB away from being a very good defense. As it is right now, it’s really not that good. Our top 2 tacklers on defense against Pitts were our safeties. How does that happen? The two top tacklers were not LBs but Safeties!!!
We need LB help and a BEAST DT who will keep on multiple linemen so the LBs are free to roam.
December 6th, 2009 at 8:35 pm
a competent GM and the structure like an NFL franchise.
Cut loose the enabalers like trask, hererra, and taylor
and who ever else is in the building all the way down to the janitor. C4 the building in alameda, and start from bakery scratch….
December 6th, 2009 at 8:36 pm
Robert gallery was drafted by Art Shell.
I believe Cable drafted DHB and I know Kiffin drafted DMC, that I know for sure.
December 6th, 2009 at 8:36 pm
The defense is not the problem.
December 6th, 2009 at 8:37 pm
priesttj Says:
December 6th, 2009 at 8:34 pm
Thec07, Russell needs to be in condition more than wieght his playing wieght is 255-60 but if he’s in condition he is much better. Russell isn’t lazy he’s immature. Big diffference
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Disagrre witha caveate, he is lazy, and immature. Cannot endear youself to the fans and team, and come in outta shape, that shoes a lack of leadership.
Face it TJ, BRL is not a leader of men, probable doesnt even want to be on this team….
December 6th, 2009 at 8:37 pm
On the other side. Most first round picks are busts.
December 6th, 2009 at 8:38 pm
Russell showed up out of shape to the combine. This is nothing new.
December 6th, 2009 at 8:38 pm
It’s the “talent” guys who are enabling JR, “oh yeah, he’d win back this job in his sleep”, “when he’s ready” and all that garbage. 3 years in the league and he’s no closer to being a Pro than he was 2 years ago.
But a guy who’s been in 4 yrs like Grads, is a freakin’ stopgap vet…who wins games, but doesn’t have the “talent”…
that’s funny…
December 6th, 2009 at 8:39 pm
thec07, Trask is a lawyer man, and Herrera is an assistant. He became more prominant when Al Locassal died. I know both people and they have helped this franchise they have zero to do with personnal……period
December 6th, 2009 at 8:40 pm
Cushing, Raji, or Mauluga should be in silver in black.
We take DHB, WTF who ever dreamed that up should be fired….
December 6th, 2009 at 8:41 pm
priesttj Says:
December 6th, 2009 at 8:39 pm
thec07, Trask is a lawyer man, and Herrera is an assistant. He became more prominant when Al Locassal died. I know both people and they have helped this franchise they have zero to do with personnal……period
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All enabalers to this franchise should be dealt with.
December 6th, 2009 at 8:41 pm
Well, Thec07 I guess everyone close to him on the team are wrong and you’re right. So i’ll move on.
December 6th, 2009 at 8:41 pm
I just got the Autumn Wind ringtone on my cell phone.
December 6th, 2009 at 8:42 pm
Russell cant stay out of the SF strip clubs. Ive heard that first hand from strippers. They say he is a regular even sometimes the night B4 games.
December 6th, 2009 at 8:43 pm
priesttj Says:
December 6th, 2009 at 8:41 pm
Well, Thec07 I guess everyone close to him on the team are wrong and you’re right. So i’ll move on.
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Move on then Bruh, your too much of a “semi professional blogger” for me anyways Bruh.
Keep spinning the ball of wax like only you can TJ…
December 6th, 2009 at 8:44 pm
16, If Russell turned over a new leaf after bein benched then Cable wouldnt have been so quick to name Grad the starter for the rest of the season. He did that two weeks ago.
December 6th, 2009 at 8:44 pm
Today was a great win Inspite of the “ORG” and Mr. Davis….
December 6th, 2009 at 8:45 pm
raidertay what does that say about you if you are close enough to strippers that they tell about jamarcus do you have a job if so why is it ok that you go to strip clubs but not him
December 6th, 2009 at 8:46 pm
Kirk Says:
December 6th, 2009 at 8:41 pm
I just got the Autumn Wind ringtone on my cell phone.
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Link please
December 6th, 2009 at 8:46 pm
16yearsold16yearfan Says:
December 6th, 2009 at 8:45 pm
raidertay what does that say about you if you are close enough to strippers that they tell about jamarcus do you have a job if so why is it ok that you go to strip clubs but not him
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Kaboom……..
December 6th, 2009 at 8:46 pm
Didn’t the “ORG” and Mr. Davis draft Louis Murphy?
December 6th, 2009 at 8:47 pm
it makes perfect sense that he name grad the starter for the rest of the season it will make grad more sure of himself so that he doesnt have to look over his shoulder after every throw and it hopefully will make russell work harder in the off season
December 6th, 2009 at 8:47 pm
16yearsold16yearfan Says:
December 6th, 2009 at 8:45 pm
raidertay what does that say about you if you are close enough to strippers that they tell about jamarcus do you have a job if so why is it ok that you go to strip clubs but not him
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This will rank as one of the funniest post of all time…ROFLMAO………
December 6th, 2009 at 8:48 pm
didnt the “ORG” and Mr. Davis draft BRL, DHB, and DMAC?
December 6th, 2009 at 8:49 pm
Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
December 6th, 2009 at 8:19 pm
LOL, KK the mortgage pimp is so bitter. What kind of “fan” gets this unhappy when their team finally plays well?
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Bo, if you’re upside down on your mortgage, holla.
Other than that????????????????
December 6th, 2009 at 8:50 pm
Wow, could this team possibly win two games in a row? The Redskins may have a large come down. Plus, they have to travel to the west coast. Raiders 20, Redskins 16
December 6th, 2009 at 8:50 pm
Run in a straight line and a good 40 time.
December 6th, 2009 at 8:54 pm
Upside down? I personally am fine on my note, thanks KK. I just have contempt for the scum who push people into homes they cannot afford and should not qualify for.
Cali realtors = parasite leeches who profit by deceiving hardworking people.
December 6th, 2009 at 8:56 pm
Thec07 Says:
December 6th, 2009 at 8:48 pm
didnt the “ORG” and Mr. Davis draft BRL, DHB, and DMAC?
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I thought Dakota drafted McFelldown. I believe Al is in his element in the later rounds. Thus the Seymour trade was briliiant. GO ORG GO!
December 6th, 2009 at 8:56 pm
I know a chick who is a stripper. Whay is that so funny. Ho w bad is it when strippers are telling you you should go hoem and get ready for the game.
December 6th, 2009 at 8:59 pm
# Thec07 Says:
December 6th, 2009 at 8:41 pm
All enabalers to this franchise should be dealt with.
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That’s just rediculous. Trask being a lawer for the Organization has nothing to do with draft pics, who the GM is or the day-to-day operation as far as product you see on the field. I agree Herrera should be exported just because of his treatment of Gannon after an honest assesment of Jamarcus Russell as a QB (trying to kick him out from being allowed in the Collisium and saying he’s the worst Superbowl QB in history). He really was an A$$hole and has handled many things wrongly.
But target the right people for the right thing. Randomly shooting everybody doesn’t help anything.
December 6th, 2009 at 8:59 pm
This is when I start feeling sorry for a lot of you. We did this in ‘04, against Denver. Did it again in ‘06, against Pittsburgh. It meant nothing, either time. The Raiders do not capitalize on wins. They just don’t. And yes, Gradkowski has proven himself today to be a decent NFL quarterback. Doesn’t matter one bit to Al. Russell is his guy. Gradkowski will not be here next year, and you guys know it.
December 6th, 2009 at 8:59 pm
Thec07, I respect you man and I don’t say that about many in here. I’m just telling ya’ the kid is doing what th coaches want it just will take him some time. That’s it and it’s not because he doesn’t want it.
16, they want him to be their role model when they aren’t role models for their own kids. The kid is young and hopefully will start to put it together. Those same cluds are frequented by another star on this team. drafted #4 overall. But the nly guy they ever talk about is Russell.
In fact I can’t name many athletes that don’t go to strip clubs in ALL pro sports.
December 6th, 2009 at 9:00 pm
I think we should trade away all of our 1st round picks from here into the future for proven veterans
Start with a good WR this year! Moss was a GREAT trade….we screwed that one up when he was here.
December 6th, 2009 at 9:02 pm
Amy Trask is an enabler. If someone else gets control of this team, it’s like a mob war. Not only does Al go, his crew goes too.
December 6th, 2009 at 9:05 pm
The fact is, If Russell as winning no one would give a sh!t where he goes
December 6th, 2009 at 9:06 pm
# The Real MaddenRaider Says:
December 6th, 2009 at 9:02 pm
Amy Trask is an enabler. If someone else gets control of this team, it’s like a mob war. Not only does Al go, his crew goes too.
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If someone new buys the team of course everyone goes. Getting a new GM brought in doesn’t mean we’re going to fire Amy Trask etc.
December 6th, 2009 at 9:06 pm
Maverick, there’s no baby with this bathwater. Al’s whole diseased tree goes out the door with him when someone eventually weasels control of this team from him the way he did from Wayne Valley.
December 6th, 2009 at 9:09 pm
I’ve read that Amy Trask has been involved with football decisions. And since Davis’s loyalists deny it, it has to be true. They only deny what’s true, after all. Amy Trask, Al Davis, Herrera, they’re all getting done like Wayne Valley.
December 6th, 2009 at 9:10 pm
Art Shell wasn’t responsible for drafting Gallery,he,according to Davis,drafted Huff.Gallery was drafted when Shell still worked for the league.
December 6th, 2009 at 9:11 pm
Amy Trask is one of the most respected CEO’s in this league. Mr Davis stole her and made her CEO due to her vast knowledge and experience in corporate law. She is one of the very best at what she does.
She was instrumental in them getting control of their own ticket sales and in designing the Raider Image stores she is also making strides in a stadium effort. Amy Trask has steady this franchise going forward since she became CEO. She is an absolute pitbull in court.
December 6th, 2009 at 9:14 pm
# priesttj Says:
December 6th, 2009 at 9:11 pm
Amy Trask is one of the most respected CEO’s in this league. Mr Davis stole her and made her CEO due to her vast knowledge and experience in corporate law. She is one of the very best at what she does.
She was instrumental in them getting control of their own ticket sales and in designing the Raider Image stores she is also making strides in a stadium effort. Amy Trask has steady this franchise going forward since she became CEO. She is an absolute pitbull in court.
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For once I agree with Priest. You think that a lawer is making personnel decisions???
December 6th, 2009 at 9:14 pm
priesttj Says:
December 6th, 2009 at 9:11 pm
Amy Trask is one of the most respected CEO’s in this league.
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Comedy hour.
December 6th, 2009 at 9:14 pm
This is the tough one.
Look at what Grad. has done:
-Beats a tough Cincy team who were on a roll.
-Loses to a good Dallas team IN DALLAS ON THANKSGIVING (Dallas almost ALWAYS wins on Thanksgiving no matter who they play).
-Beats the defending SB Champs ON THE ROAD; drives his team down the field from the 12 yard line with screaming fans waving terrible towells, not to mention an angry Pittsburgh defense with everything to play for, trying to stop him, yet he gets the job done.
He’s 2-1 after playing 3 teams with winning records and one being the defending champs.
That being said, it puts the Raiders in a tough position. I think we all know in our hearts that Grads. is NOT the long term answer, and if we stick w/him, we may just be treading water for yet another losing year in 2010. Lets enjoy this sweet win against Pitt. but not be blinded by it.
December 6th, 2009 at 9:15 pm
Maverick, I’ve read that Trask makes personnel decisions. How do I know it’s true? Davis loyalists deny it. That’s it. That’s all the proof you need. Because Davis loyalists are always, always lying.
December 6th, 2009 at 9:16 pm
# djohnnyg Says:
December 6th, 2009 at 9:14 pm
This is the tough one.
Look at what Grad. has done:
-Beats a tough Cincy team who were on a roll.
-Loses to a good Dallas team IN DALLAS ON THANKSGIVING (Dallas almost ALWAYS wins on Thanksgiving no matter who they play).
-Beats the defending SB Champs ON THE ROAD; drives his team down the field from the 12 yard line with screaming fans waving terrible towells, not to mention an angry Pittsburgh defense with everything to play for, trying to stop him, yet he gets the job done.
He’s 2-1 after playing 3 teams with winning records and one being the defending champs.
That being said, it puts the Raiders in a tough position. I think we all know in our hearts that Grads. is NOT the long term answer, and if we stick w/him, we may just be treading water for yet another losing year in 2010. Lets enjoy this sweet win against Pitt. but not be blinded by it.
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Totally agreed. He’s a hellova lot better than Russell, but a lot of those long throws were heaves that in most games won’t be caught.
I love his fire and passion for the game though and how he drives his teammates to be better. And I love that DHB was injured so the other WRs could make plays for the QB. Gawd, keep up Schilling, Murphy and JLH playing! PLEASE!
December 6th, 2009 at 9:16 pm
Lefty12, my bad, thanks for the correction he also several Olineman in that one draft. Gallery was an organizational pick probably Mike Lombardi.
The way they go about it is more the majority, butif Big Al feels strongly about a particular player he will override everyone but that is rare. Such as JaMarcus Russell that was Big Al’s.
December 6th, 2009 at 9:17 pm
raiderzmaverick Says:
December 6th, 2009 at 8:59 pm
# Thec07 Says:
December 6th, 2009 at 8:41 pm
All enabalers to this franchise should be dealt with.
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That’s just rediculous. Trask being a lawer for the Organization has nothing to do with draft pics, who the GM is or the day-to-day operation as far as product you see on the field. I agree Herrera should be exported just because of his treatment of Gannon after an honest assesment of Jamarcus Russell as a QB (trying to kick him out from being allowed in the Collisium and saying he’s the worst Superbowl QB in history). He really was an A$$hole and has handled many things wrongly.
But target the right people for the right thing. Randomly shooting everybody doesn’t help anything.
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Raidermav, i call them as i see them. Everyone in the raiders “ORG” should be fired IMO. All the way down to the janitor. Now thats not random, thats true house cleaning Bruh….
December 6th, 2009 at 9:17 pm
# The Real MaddenRaider Says:
December 6th, 2009 at 9:15 pm
Maverick, I’ve read that Trask makes personnel decisions. How do I know it’s true? Davis loyalists deny it. That’s it. That’s all the proof you need. Because Davis loyalists are always, always lying.
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Where did you read that?
December 6th, 2009 at 9:17 pm
AMAZING WIN.
It was great to the Raiders rise to the challenge and grab the victory.
Also very nice to this cripple the Steelers’ playoff chances. The refs did their best to had the steelers the victory once again, but the Raiders overcame it.
Something has to be done about Hines Ward. Aside from grabbing Johnson’s face mask, and getting away with it.
Ward is a cheap shot artist who looks to injure with blind side blocks at the head. Whenever he gets a chance he will turn back, and take a shot a slower defender who has no shot at a tackle, rather than lead the way upfield for a bigger play. The guy plays with an intent to injure, rather than win the game. He would have caught a Raider LB, but he turned just in time to avoid the head shot.
No class.
December 6th, 2009 at 9:17 pm
You guys are acting like you’re making the decision between Gradkowski and Russell. If it were up to the fans, obviously, it would be Gradkowski. But it’s not. Earth to the Raider Nation…
December 6th, 2009 at 9:18 pm
I agree if it’s true a lot of times they’ll lie, but I’ve never even seen them asked that question. And if it wasn’t true of course they’d deny it as well (or probably just wouldn’t answer it, and if it was true they’d adamantly deny it and issue a press conference how it’s BS).
December 6th, 2009 at 9:18 pm
Haha, now that is funny Amy Trask making personnel decisions. You obviusly don’t know Mrs. Trask. lol
Now that’s funny, what an idiot!! hahahaha!
December 6th, 2009 at 9:21 pm
Play stupid games, you get owned, Maverick. Go back to the playground.
http://www.nesn.com/2009/09/raiders-al-davis-chose-gruden-over-belichick-in-1998.html
Raiders’ Al Davis Chose Gruden Over Belichick in 1998
by John Beattie on Sep 14, 2009 12:45:18 PM
Bill Belichick Raiders owner Al Davis has made some questionable football decisions in his 40-plus years at the helm in Oakland, but none may be more painful these days than one he made about a decade ago.
In Saturday’s news conference introducing Richard Seymour, Davis dropped a bomb of a story to the media. According to the 80-year-old Brockton, Mass., native, the Raiders chose Jon Gruden over Bill Belichick in 1998. Davis wanted Gruden while Oakland CEO Amy Trask preferred Belichick.
Three years later, Belichick’s New England Patriots beat the Raiders in the “Snow Bowl” playoff game at Foxoboro Stadium (see also: tuck rule). Just weeks after that miraculous win, Belichick led New England to its first Super Bowl title — his first of three over the next four years. In addition to the three championship rings, Belichick owns a 102-42 career regular-season record and a 14-3 postseason record in nine seasons as Patriots head coach.
After Gruden led Oakland to a 38-26 record in four seasons as Raiders head coach, Davis traded him to the Tampa Bay Buccaneers in 2002 for four draft picks. The young head coach led the Bucs to a Super Bowl XXXVII victory in his very first year in Tampa.
Nice moves, Al.
December 6th, 2009 at 9:22 pm
# priesttj Says:
December 6th, 2009 at 9:16 pm
Lefty12, my bad, thanks for the correction he also several Olineman in that one draft. Gallery was an organizational pick probably Mike Lombardi.
The way they go about it is more the majority, butif Big Al feels strongly about a particular player he will override everyone but that is rare. Such as JaMarcus Russell that was Big Al’s.
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I can’t believe a “Majority” would say DHB was the best receiver available in the draft. There just wasn’t enough to back it up. He wasn’t even a steady receiver in College compared to 5 or 6 of the other top guys. He was fast, but he’s not even that big or physical like Chaz Schillins is. Murphy is also fast and makes sense to draft someone with a high upside later in the draft that might pull through (and did). But, WHY PICK DHB??? That just doesn’t make sense.
I can see DMC. He really was productive and seemed to not just be only a 3rd down back like Bush was for the Saints. Russell I can even understand. He seemed to be the best QB in that draft class by far and we needed a QB. But DHB I can’t understand AT ALL.
December 6th, 2009 at 9:24 pm
Davis himself said that Trask wanted Gruden. Priest, go to bed. Just quit.
December 6th, 2009 at 9:25 pm
i thought she said she wanted belichek
December 6th, 2009 at 9:25 pm
# 16yearsold16yearfan Says:
December 6th, 2009 at 7:56 pm
Priest #101 makes a lot of sense people make it seem like gradkowski has been good forever but he hasnt this was his breakout game so he obviously just found something out and if he can do that with i hate to say it less talent than russell than why cant russell do it
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16, buddy, I know you are young and I admire your loyalty to Russell.
Some things about football are just strange.
Doug Flutie was never supposed to make it, Warner went from bagging groceries to Super Bowl QB through the Arena League, and Brady goes from 6th round draft to Super Star while guys like Alex Smith, Vince Young, Ryan Leaf,Joey Harrington, David Carr, and many others come in with tons of talent and just never take off.
The guy with the most physical talent doesn’t always win. There is more to it than that.
December 6th, 2009 at 9:26 pm
I mean, that Trask wanted Belichick, not Gruden. Point being, trask doesn’t get involved with personnel decisions, but throws coaches’ names into the hat? Yeh, she’s just a team lawyer. Like I said, Davis loyalists are always, always, always lying. Even in the age of the internet, where the truth as to what they’re lying about is a click away. Unbelievable.
December 6th, 2009 at 9:26 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
December 6th, 2009 at 9:21 pm
Play stupid games, you get owned, Maverick. Go back to the playground.
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Wow – you’re really a schmuck. It never talks about hiring personnel. She wanted Belicheck, that’s great. So, suddenly because he mentions that she wanted belicheck that she’s now a scout and has input into the draft and who we pick? Wow….
December 6th, 2009 at 9:26 pm
DHB, based on cable’s comments fit what they want to do best. I was livid and in some ways still am. But it is what it is. I would’ve loved to have gotten Cushing and Rey-Rey i would’ve done cartwheels down 880 at drive time.
December 6th, 2009 at 9:27 pm
Aaahhh….RMR….you beat me to it. Okay, I see what you’re saying.
December 6th, 2009 at 9:27 pm
Anyone else want to lie and say that Trask doesn’t get involved with personnel decisions, even after Al Davis himself said she does? LOL. I know one of you will take a crack at it.
December 6th, 2009 at 9:28 pm
You see what I’m saying, Maverick? You honestly didn’t know all of this? Al just said this less than a few months ago. Sure you weren’t trying to lie?
December 6th, 2009 at 9:29 pm
75, tell us something we don’t know.
December 6th, 2009 at 9:29 pm
Genius, trask doesn’t get involved with personnel, but lobbies for coaches? Sure. Keep ‘em coming.
December 6th, 2009 at 9:29 pm
Denial is a drug for you guys.
December 6th, 2009 at 9:30 pm
Or, lying. Take your pick.
December 6th, 2009 at 9:30 pm
# priesttj Says:
December 6th, 2009 at 9:26 pm
DHB, based on cable’s comments fit what they want to do best. I was livid and in some ways still am. But it is what it is. I would’ve loved to have gotten Cushing and Rey-Rey i would’ve done cartwheels down 880 at drive time.
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Yeah, he was drafted to “run deep to open up the running game”. That was just supid. How about someone fast that could catch? Heck Percy Harvin was 1/10th of a second slower (and probably is faster with his pads on) Louis Murphy was one of the fastest 40 times, so even if he couldn’t catch (which he CAN!) why not use the 4th round pick as the decoy with a high upside? Just doesn’t make sense to use a 1st round pick with someone without much potential (I wouldn’t say his ceiling is that high with what I’ve seen).
December 6th, 2009 at 9:31 pm
In the same press conference… “** Davis thinks right defensive end Trevor Scott will still be “brilliant” but they didn’t want him to get “beat up” everydown like he says Derrick Burgess was.” Sounds like they’re getting this ‘brilliant’ 6th round pick into use and it’s not turning out bad.
December 6th, 2009 at 9:31 pm
# The Real MaddenRaider Says:
December 6th, 2009 at 9:27 pm
Anyone else want to lie and say that Trask doesn’t get involved with personnel decisions, even after Al Davis himself said she does? LOL. I know one of you will take a crack at it.
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With the crazy mess that goes on around Oakland, I wouldn’t be surprised if Al Davis called the Psychic Hotline for personnel advice.
December 6th, 2009 at 9:32 pm
Everyone is talking about Russell’s big arm and potential. Russell throws the WORST long passes I have ever seen in my life! Many are horribly underthrown. With Russell at the helm, the Raiders had the fewwest plays over 20 yards of any team in the league. The only long pass taht Russell ever connected on was when there was a blown coverage in the SD gane and ANY Qb could have hit that. Gradkowski had a 75 yd bomb for a TD today. Russell is one of the worst long passers in the history of the league, literally.
December 6th, 2009 at 9:32 pm
I’m actually happy now. We’re playing our best players (except for BUSH still not getting his carries). DHB got hurt (which I”m thankful for only because it gave other receivers their playing time and he’s not the best player out there by far). Jamarcus FINALLY got the hook after horrible play. Keep playing the best players. the others have to EARN their playing time.
December 6th, 2009 at 9:33 pm
Raider75, it’s just unreal how they try to lie to you when the answer is a click away. They think their fellow Raider fans are too dumb to use Google. That’s the truth.
December 6th, 2009 at 9:33 pm
Dark Forces Says:
December 6th, 2009 at 9:32 pm
Everyone is talking about Russell’s big arm and potential. Russell throws the WORST long passes I have ever seen in my life! Many are horribly underthrown. ——————————————-
It’s funny – I noticed that too. WAAAAAAY off course most of the time.
December 6th, 2009 at 9:33 pm
Dark Forces, you’ve convinced me. Now you just have to convince Al.
December 6th, 2009 at 9:34 pm
# The Real MaddenRaider Says:
December 6th, 2009 at 8:59 pm
This is when I start feeling sorry for a lot of you. We did this in ‘04, against Denver. Did it again in ‘06, against Pittsburgh. It meant nothing, either time. The Raiders do not capitalize on wins. They just don’t. And yes, Gradkowski has proven himself today to be a decent NFL quarterback. Doesn’t matter one bit to Al. Russell is his guy. Gradkowski will not be here next year, and you guys know it.
you need some cheese with that wine? you are the whiniest dude I’ve come across. winning games is how you keep AD out of your business. ask jon gruden. you think I’m wrong fakemaddeneraider? winning games shuts people up. except for u that is. and yes japorkrine will no doubt get a chance to compete for the starting job next year. but it shouldn’t be much of a competition.
December 6th, 2009 at 9:35 pm
# Raider75 Says:
December 6th, 2009 at 9:31 pm
With the crazy mess that goes on around Oakland, I wouldn’t be surprised if Al Davis called the Psychic Hotline for personnel advice.
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No way the Psychic Advice Hotline would EVER say DHB will turn into a good 1st round pick….gotta be somethign else going on….
December 6th, 2009 at 9:36 pm
raiderzmaverick Says:
December 6th, 2009 at 9:32 pm
I’m actually happy now. We’re playing our best players (except for BUSH still not getting his carries). DHB got hurt (which I”m thankful for only because it gave other receivers their playing time and he’s not the best player out there by far). Jamarcus FINALLY got the hook after horrible play. Keep playing the best players. the others have to EARN their playing time.
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With other teams, injuries put the best players on the bench. With the Raiders, it’s the other way around.
It was great to see the WR’s really step up their game today.
Cable said earlier this year that the “drops” weren’t contagious, but I think this game shows that they were.
December 6th, 2009 at 9:37 pm
# raiderzmaverick Says:
December 6th, 2009 at 9:35 pm
# Raider75 Says:
December 6th, 2009 at 9:31 pm
With the crazy mess that goes on around Oakland, I wouldn’t be surprised if Al Davis called the Psychic Hotline for personnel advice.
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No way the Psychic Advice Hotline would EVER say DHB will turn into a good 1st round pick….gotta be somethign else going on….
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Maybe its Ms. Cleo
December 6th, 2009 at 9:38 pm
manassamauler Says:
December 6th, 2009 at 9:34 pm
winning games is how you keep AD out of your business.
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Tell that to Jon Gruden and Rich Gannon.
December 6th, 2009 at 9:39 pm
russell as of right now is arguably the worst QB taken in the first round ever. he has nothing, no accuracy, no footwork,no heart,no work ethic,no pocket awareness,no football knowledge, no leadership skills,no commitment or fire. big country can throw a 70 yard pass, but it’ll miss its target by 10 yards. as of right now worst QB first round pick in memory. the only russell has going for him is that he’s not an azzhole like leaf was.
December 6th, 2009 at 9:39 pm
Raiders should look at Jason Campbell for next season.
Once the Skins got Zorn out the way, he is putting up great numbers.
He had 367 yards and 3 TDs against the Saints today.
December 6th, 2009 at 9:40 pm
Even that crazy Jamaican lady would have laughed at the DHB pick.
December 6th, 2009 at 9:40 pm
Tell it to Tom Flores while you’re at it, Man ass lover. Think Tom Flores wanted Marc Wilson over his carnal Jim Plunkett?
December 6th, 2009 at 9:42 pm
manassamauler Says:
December 6th, 2009 at 9:34 pm
# The Real MaddenRaider Says:
December 6th, 2009 at 8:59 pm
This is when I start feeling sorry for a lot of you. We did this in ‘04, against Denver. Did it again in ‘06, against Pittsburgh. It meant nothing, either time. The Raiders do not capitalize on wins. They just don’t. And yes, Gradkowski has proven himself today to be a decent NFL quarterback. Doesn’t matter one bit to Al. Russell is his guy. Gradkowski will not be here next year, and you guys know it.
you need some cheese with that wine? you are the whiniest dude I’ve come across. winning games is how you keep AD out of your business. ask jon gruden. you think I’m wrong fakemaddeneraider? winning games shuts people up. except for u that is. and yes japorkrine will no doubt get a chance to compete for the starting job next year. but it shouldn’t be much of a competition.
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Going into this game I would have completely agreed with you about Grads being gone and Russell being penciled in as next year’s starter.
But this was a really impressive game for Gradkowki. One that sticks out in the memory. I’m sure Al will remember it come contract time. He’ll throw a couple million at Gradkowksi with a chance to start and he’ll take it.
Beating the hated Steelers means 10x more than beating the Jags.
December 6th, 2009 at 9:42 pm
Tell it to Art Shell and Terry Robiskie too, man ass lover. That winning keeps Al out of your business. Tell it to Ronnie Lott and Howie Long, who both expressed disgust with Al forcing Shell’s hand in benching Marcus. That might be the dumbest thing you’ve ever said, man ass lover.
December 6th, 2009 at 9:43 pm
Here’s what many of you would say if (by some miracle, but work with me here) were to win the Super Bowl sometime soon:
“You guys need to get a life. Enjoy your Super Bowl win, but just remember, Al will find a way to screw this all up. If you think Al Davis will allow the Raiders to repeat, you’re nuts. This is the last Super Bowl win the Raiders will ever see. You guys have fun with this one, but wait till next year when Al tears it all apart, just like he did when Raiders won in 84, when we had to wait over 25 yrs. to win another one. You guys need to get a reality check, cuz they WILL NOT repeat, (and the post would close with the obligatory….)PERIOD.
December 6th, 2009 at 9:45 pm
# The Real MaddenRaider Says:
December 6th, 2009 at 9:40 pm
Tell it to Tom Flores while you’re at it, Man ass lover. Think Tom Flores wanted Marc Wilson over his carnal Jim Plunkett?
you keep showing how yellow bus slow u are. you like man ass FMR? well why don’t u just put on that alex smith jersey and move to frisco and call it good girlie.you shouln’t mouth off to me FMR, i make you look foolish and senile every time u do old man
December 6th, 2009 at 9:50 pm
KK, I joined phonezoo to get Autumn Wind as my ringtone.
December 6th, 2009 at 9:53 pm
Gradkowski is a good quarterback. I thought so the first time I saw him. Gruden drafted him, and he really is a lot like Gannon. Now if we can get rid of Fargas and DHB, we will be in good shape.
December 6th, 2009 at 9:57 pm
raiders could bring in jason cambell to compete with gradkowski for the job next year. can’t go wrong there. cambell has all of the tools. hes actually underrated from what I’ve seem. can’t go wrong with either guy IMO.
December 6th, 2009 at 9:57 pm
Yeah, the problem was in 2007, there weren’t many other QB options and since we didn’t draft one in 2006 (we took Huff instead) we pretty much “had” to draft one.
I mean maybe we should’ve taken one in the 2nd round instead. There would’ve been Kevin Kolb, John Beck, Trent Edwards and Drew Stanton available for the choosing. Heck would’ve been a cheaper losss, but then…I guess Culpepper could’ve held over a year while one of these guys learned….
December 6th, 2009 at 9:58 pm
Kirk Says:
December 6th, 2009 at 9:53 pm
Gradkowski is a good quarterback. I thought so the first time I saw him. Gruden drafted him, and he really is a lot like Gannon. Now if we can get rid of Fargas and DHB, we will be in good shape.
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Good, yes. Great? no.
Unfortunately he’s also not the prototype. So no matter what his production on the field is, they’ll always be looking for someone to replace him.
Kind of like Doug Flutie. The teams always want to have that 6′4″ ++ QB who looks good on paper.
December 6th, 2009 at 9:58 pm
How do the Raiders beat Philly, Bengals, and Steelers yet lose to the Chiefs, Texans, and Jets. (Or game 1 against San Diego)
3 F’N games and we are sitting at 7-5 and right in the middle of things in the AFC.
3 F’N GAMES!
I hope I never see Jabustus throw another pass in a Raiders uniform.
December 6th, 2009 at 10:00 pm
manassamauler,
I like Campbell too, but I think he’ll want a better chance of being a starter and would probably look elsewhere.
December 6th, 2009 at 10:02 pm
Dude, I just have to ask…
Is your name Manassa Mauler?
Because if its man-ass-mauler, then we need to talk about a name change.
December 6th, 2009 at 10:03 pm
raiders beatin the steelers IN pittsburgh IN cold weather. damn it feels good beatin the steelers especially in pittsburgh!
December 6th, 2009 at 10:04 pm
Can you put a hyphen in there..
Manassa-Mauler
That would really help me out.
December 6th, 2009 at 10:05 pm
Gradkowski is f*cked!
He’s making Al look bad by playing so far above what Russell is capable of and the old man will put an end to that this offseason.
NOBODY makes Al look bad and sticks around.
So yet another good player with the right mindset and decent ability will be let go and Al will force Russell back onto this team next year and they will suck again.
Same old sh!t,nothing REALLY changes til the old man bites it.
December 6th, 2009 at 10:05 pm
been agreeing with everythin that thec been sayin and disagree with priest n rmr is just flat out stupid has a stick up his ass even when the raiders do something positive
December 6th, 2009 at 10:10 pm
Greg Pappa lost his mind today on the radio.
Bruce Almighty! lol
Sounded like he was going to stroke out or have an anurisium.
December 6th, 2009 at 10:14 pm
In case anyone missed it, man ass lover said that winning will keep Al Davis out of a coach’s business. I told him to look up “GRUDEN, Jon”. Still hasn’t gotten back to me. That’s where we’re at.
December 6th, 2009 at 10:15 pm
OFL71 Says:
December 6th, 2009 at 10:05 pm
Gradkowski is f*cked!
He’s making Al look bad by playing so far above what Russell is capable of and the old man will put an end to that this offseason.
………..
BINGO
December 6th, 2009 at 10:15 pm
Notice the difference when our better WRs are on the field instead of DHB!
But…I bet when his foot is healed he’s right back in 85% of the snaps.
Damned. This is too good to keep in WRs to make plays to help compensate for mediocre QB play…
December 6th, 2009 at 10:16 pm
As I said two weeks ago:
Bruce Gradkowski = Steve Beurelein
The better he plays, the faster he’ll be gone.
December 6th, 2009 at 10:16 pm
Can you get that as a ringtone?
TOOOOUUUCCCCHHHHDDDDDDOOOOWWWWWNNNNNN RAAAIIIDEEERRRSSS!
December 6th, 2009 at 10:17 pm
I found that ‘96 SI article, the one that’s curiously made it’s way all throughout the Raider blogosphere since I’ve posted, btw (you’re welcome, everyone), doing a google on “Al Davis, Steve Beurelein”.
December 6th, 2009 at 10:18 pm
# unholySOB Says:
December 6th, 2009 at 6:19 pm
Gradkowski will be our next Gannon. Write it down.
^^^^^^^^
Possibly yes…..he played like him today but will the dumb old man reward him by resigning him….which he should!
If the Al Davis doesn’t keep Gradowski around to compete for the starting position next year. That should be the nail in the coffin for the old man and that would be the cherry on top of all the stupid and bad decisions he has made the last 7 years.
December 6th, 2009 at 10:19 pm
Amid the cold Autumn chill of Pittsburgh, Pa. the “Team of the Decades” systematically disassembled the world champion Pittsburgh Steelers in dramatic fashion. By inserting the fiesty Bruce Gradkowski into the starting lineup, the greatness of hall of famer Mr.Allen H.Davis was once again put on display for all the world to see. With an inner knowing and a keen observational sense for the spectacular, Mr. Davis almost single-handedly led the Raiders to yet another benchmark victory. Against all odds, Mr. Davis proved again that for one to ever question the genius and purpose of Mr. Davis, they do so at their peril.
The great ones find a way to win. The will and determination of Mr. Davis, like a fine wine, gets better with age.
If one were to look up the definiton of GREATNESS in the dictionary, one would find that definition to be “Mr. Allan H. Davis” patriarch and orchestrator of the “Team of the Decades” The Oakland Raiders. Oh, how we love thee oh great one. May you live a thousand years and more, and your greatness endure for generations to come.
December 6th, 2009 at 10:19 pm
Pappa’s lost it. He’s been a Davis shill for a few years now. Loved it when Monte Poole checked him on that stupid Chronicle Live show for putting words into Asomugha’s mouth.
December 6th, 2009 at 10:20 pm
Gannon in his 4th season was already throwing 59% completion percentage and after that never dropped below that range. If Gradkowski can keep building maybe we do have something descent. At least I’d give him a chance to compete as the starter next year for sure. It’s what our Offense needed – a leader…I’d been saying it for a while that it was lacking something the Defense was building on after getting Ellis & Seymore.
December 6th, 2009 at 10:22 pm
This was Gradkowski’s 1st game throwing 60% I think (he just barely made it at 60.6%). So that was the “norm” for Gannon. But hell, it’s good to see some life again. He defenitely deserves a chance to keep showin’ what he’s made of
December 6th, 2009 at 10:23 pm
…after the 2009 season, despite all of the glory and rejuvenation Bruce Gradkowski brought to Al Davis and his mighty Raiders, Al Davis traded Gradkowski to the New England Patriots for draft picks, and announced that JaMarcus Russell would be his starter in the 2010 season. Shocking. Unexpected. But such is the world of the maverick, unpredictable gambler, Al Davis.
(cut to Al Davis, sitting in the NFL films studio with a poster of his 3 Super Bowl trophies behind him)
“He’s a great playaaah. Get over it”.
(closing credits, roll sound, Autumn wind instrumental)
December 6th, 2009 at 10:26 pm
I’m sorry RMR – I disagree again. Look at Burlein’s stats as a Raider. He was completing under 50% of his passes. Who would have inserted him? But he was hard working and obviously did pretty well for himself. His first year away from us had a horrible completion % as well. Only after his 2nd year in Dallas did he actually do something worthwhile. And then….the rest is history….
December 6th, 2009 at 10:27 pm
I hope I’m wrong and they give Gradkowski what’s due to him – at least a chance to compete “honestly” for the starting QB next year. He’s not going to be given the chance to be a starter elsewhere anyways probably.
December 6th, 2009 at 10:28 pm
# manassamauler Says:
December 6th, 2009 at 7:54 pm
1st draft picks have been killing oakland. look at since 2004
04 gallery LT BUST at the position
05 i believe it was fabian wash CB!! LOL nuff said
06 huff FS hasm’t done anything UNTIL this season? hes gone next year
07 #1 all time BUST!!! u know the name
08. not a bust yet but hasn’t broken out yet. i think he will though
09. really bad thus far.
CRAPPY drafting by AD in the first round. unreal. get some help PLEASE and this thing can turn around.
^^^^^^^^
Thats the main problem with Al Davis he makes stupid 1st round picks and acts like it’s monopoly money he is playing with.
However, DMC was a good pick but the offensive coaches don’t know how to utilize him yet. It doesn’t take a genius Cable, Tollner and Hackett!
December 6th, 2009 at 10:30 pm
Now you guys are ripping the home team announcer for expressing excitement the the Raiders won? Obviously you have never listened to the home team calls of the Titans, Bengals, Bears, Packers (Wayne Larrivees’s “And there is your dagger” is one of the most over the top statements I have heard).
Believe me, there are home town broadcasts that are WAY more extreme than Pappa’s. Why don’t you guys move to Denver or San Diego where you can be closer to your favorite teams.
December 6th, 2009 at 10:31 pm
Well I truely thought Pittsburgh was going to stomp the Raiders (a self preservation tactic I use on game days). What a wonderful surprise when I was able to access game scores today.
Maybe Tom Cable wants to keep his job so bad he actually is putting pieces in order. DHB really hurt or just a pr move? And the numbers were awesome.
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/recap?gameId=291206023
December 6th, 2009 at 10:32 pm
# raiderzmaverick Says:
December 6th, 2009 at 10:27 pm
I hope I’m wrong and they give Gradkowski what’s due to him – at least a chance to compete “honestly” for the starting QB next year. He’s not going to be given the chance to be a starter elsewhere anyways probably.
^^^^^^^^
If da Bruce keeps playing well and keeps improving like he has been on a week to week basis. Then the crazy old man and Cable won’t have a choice to keep Grad around.
Then again, they may get rid of Grad just to spite the fans of the Raider Nation, since Al doesn’t give a crap about what we say.
Nice owner who doesn’t listen to the fans huh?
December 6th, 2009 at 10:33 pm
djohnnyg Says:
December 6th, 2009 at 10:30 pm
Now you guys are ripping the home team announcer for expressing excitement the the Raiders won? Obviously you have never listened to the home team calls of the Titans, Bengals, Bears, Packers (Wayne Larrivees’s “And there is your dagger” is one of the most over the top statements I have heard).
Believe me, there are home town broadcasts that are WAY more extreme than Pappa’s. Why don’t you guys move to Denver or San Diego where you can be closer to your favorite teams.
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You left out Seattle.
December 6th, 2009 at 10:37 pm
raiderzmaverick Says:
December 6th, 2009 at 10:27 pm
I hope I’m wrong and they give Gradkowski what’s due to him – at least a chance to compete “honestly” for the starting QB next year. He’s not going to be given the chance to be a starter elsewhere anyways probably.
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That’s why he should be back. He’s not the prototype. He’ll take a couple Mil and the chance at starting next year in an “open”
competition at QB.
The only real question is who will be the 3rd QB on the roster.
December 6th, 2009 at 10:41 pm
DOC B , is the best qb the raiders have had since gannon
December 6th, 2009 at 10:44 pm
OMG!!! We’re playing WASHINGTON next week….could we WIN 2 in a Row????? Keep the same starters…..PLEASE!!!
December 6th, 2009 at 10:44 pm
djohnnyg Says:
December 6th, 2009 at 10:30 pm
Now you guys are ripping the home team announcer for expressing excitement the the Raiders won?
……………
Yeh, we’re ripping the home team announcer for getting excited.
No, Mr. Drama. Actually, if you read my comment, you’d see I was critical of Greg Pappa for misrepresenting Nnamid’s position, something that Monte Poole checked him for just as the credits were rolling on chronicle live a few nights ago.
December 6th, 2009 at 10:44 pm
I can see Al keeping JaMarcus on board for all 6 years if he can restructure his contract. Even if he doesn’t play a single down again.
Even if JaMarcus is done in Oakland he will still be on the roster if the paychecks are not too expensive.
I don’t think Al will release him and take the chance of him succeeding on another team.
December 6th, 2009 at 10:44 pm
…and in a glorious expression of his trademark humility, coupled with what could only be described as the absolute genius and foresight of one who is divinely inspired, the incomparable Mr. Davis once again proved that age is “only a number”, Mr. Davis admits that he may have made a “small error in judgement” by drafting Jamarcus Russell. Not conceding that Mr. Russell is in fact a “great player”, Mr. Davis proclaims Bruce Gradkowski the starter for 2010.
December 6th, 2009 at 10:45 pm
Maverick, I don’t see where your stat research on Beurelein debunks my point on Gradkowski. Sorry.
December 6th, 2009 at 10:48 pm
djohnnyg Says:
December 6th, 2009 at 10:44 pm
…and in a glorious expression of his trademark humility, coupled with what could only be described as the absolute genius and foresight of one who is divinely inspired, the incomparable Mr. Davis once again proved that age is “only a number”, Mr. Davis admits that he may have made a “small error in judgement” by drafting Jamarcus Russell. Not conceding that Mr. Russell is in fact a “great player”, Mr. Davis proclaims Bruce Gradkowski the starter for 2010.
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“Davis admits that Gradkowski is an even greater player than Russell, and that both should be considered for the hall of fame.”
December 6th, 2009 at 10:48 pm
MR. I wasn’t referring to your post. I didn’t hear the Pappa thing about Asomugha, but I don’t doubt it occured. He may be a bit over the top, but really no worse than a lot of others when it comes to the home team call. You should hear Jeff Joniak on the Bears network.
December 6th, 2009 at 10:49 pm
I know it’s early, but I can’t help it. lol
O Mock 1:
1- DT Suh if Available, Or MLB Spikes/ McClain.
2- DE Carlos Dunlap Florida
3- RT Calloway Iowa, or Sam Young ND.
3- CB walter Thermond Oregon, or Syd Thompson Cal
4- MLB Micha Johnson if available Kentucky, or Ryan Deimperio Rutgers.
5- DT Corey Peters Kentucky.
5- RG Thomas Austin Clemson, or Jon Asamoah ill.
6- FB Cory Jackson Maryland, or FB Rashawn Jackson Virginia
7- Best Available player.
December 6th, 2009 at 10:51 pm
# primussuxxx Says:
December 6th, 2009 at 5:29 pm
You want russell to have a shot next year as bad as he has played over gradkowski?
^^^^^^^^^^
Only way this team can take Russell serious next year is if he hires a personal trainer in the off season to lose 15-20 pounds, get in the best shape of his life and work on his footwork, pumpfake ability, looking off the safety and accuracy before training camp starts.
Then and only then should he be taken seriously. Then he would also need to outplay Grads or whoever else he will compete with for the starting QB gig next year.
If he comes into training camp out of shape and not interested. He is screwed!
December 6th, 2009 at 10:53 pm
papa’s an ass anymore. He was cool before he became a Davis shill. Just so you know, I never made fun of him for getting excited about a Raider win. It’s kind of his job. It’s his blatant Al shilling that I don’t like. He’s one of the few people that could probably get Al’s ear, but instead he chooses to kiss his ass. It’s pathetic. Rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrraiders!!!
December 6th, 2009 at 10:54 pm
What did Davis see in JR other than a strong arm?
December 6th, 2009 at 10:56 pm
Sign a few FAs for the Offense. We need more vets on Offense.
To heavy on Defense in the draft since we have a few vets like Nnamdi & Seymour!
Fire Cable!
December 6th, 2009 at 10:57 pm
DKnight007 Says:
December 6th, 2009 at 10:51 pm
# primussuxxx Says:
December 6th, 2009 at 5:29 pm
You want russell to have a shot next year as bad as he has played over gradkowski?
^^^^^^^^^^
Only way this team can take Russell serious next year is if he hires a personal trainer in the off season to lose 15-20 pounds, get in the best shape of his life and work on his footwork, pumpfake ability, looking off the safety and accuracy before training camp starts.
Then and only then should he be taken seriously. Then he would also need to outplay Grads or whoever else he will compete with for the starting QB gig next year.
If he comes into training camp out of shape and not interested. He is screwed!
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JaMarcus will come into camp with a “fresh slate.”
They’ll tell him to forget about last year, work hard, and it will be an open competition.
Grads is still not written in stone as next year’s starter. He is way ahead of JaMarcus, but it doesn’t guarantee him anything for next year.
Wait for words, ” all positions will be evaluated.”
December 6th, 2009 at 10:58 pm
* Go heavy…
December 6th, 2009 at 11:00 pm
Correct me if I’m wrong, but when Russell was picked, the ‘experts’ thought Jamarcus was a solid # 1 pick and that it made sense. He was the top rated QB in the draft I thought. It wasn’t like he was universally panned.
MR,
I agree that the Raiddddddddderrrrrs thing is a little much. If Pappa has Davis’s ear than he has an obligation to set the man straight inmy opinion. Only problem, it would cost him his job.
December 6th, 2009 at 11:08 pm
djohnnyg Says:
December 6th, 2009 at 11:00 pm
Correct me if I’m wrong, but when Russell was picked, the ‘experts’ thought Jamarcus was a solid # 1 pick and that it made sense. He was the top rated QB in the draft I thought. It wasn’t like he was universally panned.
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I’ll buy that. Now, after seeing his tools in action for a couple of years, do you think he can become a good enough qb to compete and lead his team to win?
If’s won’t do. I don’t see it, but I’m seldom right. Projectability can be a tough business.
December 6th, 2009 at 11:10 pm
Much of Gradkowski’s success today was his awareness, pocket presence & mobility within the pocket. Without his many escapes, we would not have been successful. JaBustus may come in with a clean slate next year but he better be at least 25 pounds lighter and able to move QUICKLY in the pocket. Otherwise his strong arm will mean nothing when he’s on his back. That’s just one of JR’s missing skills. Touch is another. I’m not sure you can learn touch. You either have it or you don’t. JR has yet to demonstrate touch passing. That could be why there are so many dropped balls. JR has a lot of bad habits and I’m not sure he can be fixed. As I see it, all he has is a powerful throw (arm). What other skill does he bring to the table? None that I’ve seen except winning eating contests.
December 6th, 2009 at 11:10 pm
djohnnyg Says:
December 6th, 2009 at 11:00 pm
Correct me if I’m wrong, but when Russell was picked, the ‘experts’ thought Jamarcus was a solid # 1 pick and that it made sense. He was the top rated QB in the draft I thought. It wasn’t like he was universally panned.
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Best QB available that year would be better way to describe him.
From what I recall, most scouts had him rated ahead of Brady Quinn, but not as good as QB from other years. If he came out last year he would been behind Stafford and Sanchez.
The Raiders just ended up with the first when a true franchise QB was not avaiable.
Bengals got Carson Palmer with thier first pick. Sometimes it’s just luck with who’s avaiable.
December 6th, 2009 at 11:11 pm
# djohnnyg Says:
December 6th, 2009 at 10:30 pm
Now you guys are ripping the home team announcer for expressing excitement the the Raiders won? Obviously you have never listened to the home team calls of the Titans, Bengals, Bears, Packers (Wayne Larrivees’s “And there is your dagger” is one of the most over the top statements I have heard).
Believe me, there are home town broadcasts that are WAY more extreme than Pappa’s. Why don’t you guys move to Denver or San Diego where you can be closer to your favorite teams.
……….
You are way off. I was just laughing because the dude held the “touchdown” for about 5 seconds. Thought his head might explode.
December 6th, 2009 at 11:15 pm
JB Says:
December 6th, 2009 at 11:10 pm
Much of Gradkowski’s success today was his awareness, pocket presence & mobility within the pocket. Without his many escapes, we would not have been successful. JaBustus may come in with a clean slate next year but he better be at least 25 pounds lighter and able to move QUICKLY in the pocket. Otherwise his strong arm will mean nothing when he’s on his back. That’s just one of JR’s missing skills. Touch is another. I’m not sure you can learn touch. You either have it or you don’t. JR has yet to demonstrate touch passing. That could be why there are so many dropped balls. JR has a lot of bad habits and I’m not sure he can be fixed. As I see it, all he has is a powerful throw (arm). What other skill does he bring to the table? None that I’ve seen except winning eating contests.
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IMO, I don’t think bringing JaMarcus back is the right thing to do, I just think that is what will happen. There is too much money and “potential” for Al to walk away from.
He’ll have to prove that his an absolute bust before they cut ties with him, like it or not.
December 6th, 2009 at 11:17 pm
Cassal got yanked today in the 3rd.
How did we lose to these tards?
December 6th, 2009 at 11:23 pm
Seems there has been a fixing process in order and succesful plays are falling into place. I hope the table has been set for some wins now and Al does not decide to change things. Consistency will bring success, Al just needs to wait it out now.
It’s the league minimum and some change guys who want it the most, and given the opportunity to play, they’ve shown more hunger than maybe Al thinks he can buy.
December 6th, 2009 at 11:26 pm
NorthernD Says:
December 6th, 2009 at 11:15 pm
IMO, I don’t think bringing JaMarcus back is the right thing to do, I just think that is what will happen. There is too much money and “potential” for Al to walk away from.
He’ll have to prove that his an absolute bust before they cut ties with him, like it or not.
…………..
How much proof is needed? Really… How bad does this guy have to suck? How many starts will it take? JaMarcus Russell started 25 of 26 games before he was benched.
He is slated to earn base salaries of $9.45 million next season, $9.35 million in 2011 and $5.83 million in 2012.
Are you telling me Al Davis will pay him $10 mil next year after the debacle that was the 2009 season?
December 6th, 2009 at 11:28 pm
Even tho we’re not eliminated mathematically right now (at least I don’t think so), it’s sad to think one or two more wins and we’re in the hunt. But today, life is good and the future doesn’t look quite so bad.
December 6th, 2009 at 11:28 pm
Oh sure Al won’t get rid of JaMarcus, not if there’s the slight possibility he might develop into something, but just like with Javon Walker he isn’t going to force Cable to start him so long as we win games. If that happens Gradkowski will be here next year, guaranteed. Al only gets pissy when the head coach gets more attention and credit than he does, and as he’s fond of saying money has never prevented the Raiders from signing anyone they want to keep.
Anyway, whatever, it’s a non-issue. MR employs whatever tactic he thinks will upset the peanut gallery: in this case he threatens to have our hero stolen away. Pretty juevenile stuff, honestly. Shouldn’t you be off stealing candy from a toddler? That seems more your scene.
December 6th, 2009 at 11:30 pm
Greg Papa is one of the best in sports. His touchdown call is classic. Flores on the other hand is brutal as an announcer.
December 6th, 2009 at 11:39 pm
Raider75 Says:
December 6th, 2009 at 11:26 pm
NorthernD Says:
December 6th, 2009 at 11:15 pm
IMO, I don’t think bringing JaMarcus back is the right thing to do, I just think that is what will happen. There is too much money and “potential” for Al to walk away from.
He’ll have to prove that his an absolute bust before they cut ties with him, like it or not.
…………..
How much proof is needed? Really… How bad does this guy have to suck? How many starts will it take? JaMarcus Russell started 25 of 26 games before he was benched.
He is slated to earn base salaries of $9.45 million next season, $9.35 million in 2011 and $5.83 million in 2012.
Are you telling me Al Davis will pay him $10 mil next year after the debacle that was the 2009 season?
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Judging from what Al has done in the past, I would say there is at least 75% chance Russell is a Raider next year.
It wouldn’t just be because he has a chance to start for the Raiders, but also so that he doesn’t get a chance to play for another team.
They kept Walter on the roster to keep him signing with another team early in camp.
Davis has also made a career out of signing older former #1 QB’s off other teams. I’m sure he wouldn’t want someone to sign JaMarcus and have it come back to haunt him. He’ll sit on JaMarcus, even if he isn’t the starter.
He’s not letting Walker go, even though they only owe him 2.5 for this year and next.
December 6th, 2009 at 11:40 pm
Dark Forces Says:
December 6th, 2009 at 11:30 pm
Greg Papa is one of the best in sports. His touchdown call is classic. Flores on the other hand is brutal as an announcer.
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Great point.
December 6th, 2009 at 11:46 pm
I think Russell has been the teacher to Grad in the first half of the season. You know, how not to be. Grad wants the job so bad, he’s been vocal about being the leader, been mobile, speaks clearly, inspires, completes passes, competing, etc. All the things he saw Russell do made him more determined to keep the job if he ever got a shot at starting. Clearly, this is not the team it was 4 weeks ago.
December 6th, 2009 at 11:57 pm
Another game like that one, and I think JaMarcus’ starting days will be over.
December 6th, 2009 at 11:59 pm
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/raiders/detail?&entry_id=53005
December 7th, 2009 at 12:13 am
From the above link…
When they win, we cover 10 things liked most, obvious highlights aside. Here goes …
1. Gradkowski jawing off with Steelers cornerback Ike Taylor, who gave him a big shove out of bounds on an 18-yard scramble.
The Steelers hit hard and often. They want to intimidate. Gradkowski let Taylor and the Steel Curtain know it wasn’t happening, not in his hometown.
“I like getting dirty out there,” Gradkowski said. “I like to be considered a football player and not just a quarterback. I get into the game and I just told him ‘Hey, I’m planning all night, 60 minutes.’”
Now, that’s a quarterback. That’s a team leader. If Taylor thought that was mean, he should have heard what Gradkowski told his own left tackle Mario Henderson on the game-winning drive.
“They were showing a play on the score monitor and I was just looking up to see, did I do the right thing or not, and Bruce was like, ‘Stop (expletive) looking at the thing and get your mind right.’” Henderson said. “I looked at him at first like, ‘You talking to me?’ Then I was like, you know what, I like that, man. He demands attention. That’s what you need as a quarterback in the league.”
Read more: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/raiders/detail?&entry_id=53005#ixzz0YzM8vfJF
December 7th, 2009 at 12:39 am
# Kirk Says:
December 7th, 2009 at 12:13 am
From the above link…
When they win, we cover 10 things liked most, obvious highlights aside. Here goes …
1. Gradkowski jawing off with Steelers cornerback Ike Taylor, who gave him a big shove out of bounds on an 18-yard scramble.
The Steelers hit hard and often. They want to intimidate. Gradkowski let Taylor and the Steel Curtain know it wasn’t happening, not in his hometown.
“I like getting dirty out there,” Gradkowski said. “I like to be considered a football player and not just a quarterback. I get into the game and I just told him ‘Hey, I’m planning all night, 60 minutes.’”
Now, that’s a quarterback. That’s a team leader. If Taylor thought that was mean, he should have heard what Gradkowski told his own left tackle Mario Henderson on the game-winning drive.
“They were showing a play on the score monitor and I was just looking up to see, did I do the right thing or not, and Bruce was like, ‘Stop (expletive) looking at the thing and get your mind right.’” Henderson said. “I looked at him at first like, ‘You talking to me?’ Then I was like, you know what, I like that, man. He demands attention. That’s what you need as a quarterback in the league.”
Read more: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/raiders/detail?&entry_id=53005#ixzz0YzM8vfJF
^^^^^^^^^
Another reason why da Bruce should be the starter going into next season. The man is a hard worker, is hungry, gritty, outspoken, wants to win, can scramble and knows what being a leader is all about.
He has Gannon qualities.
December 7th, 2009 at 12:41 am
Grad has earned the respect of the team now and they should know that all is not lost…..they have a QB who gives a damn, is a leader, and has intangibles and wants to WIN!
If the dumb old man doesn’t bring Grad back next year, the team will be lost again.
December 7th, 2009 at 12:41 am
Like I said, Gruden drafted Gradkowski.
December 7th, 2009 at 12:42 am
The old man better restructure Russells salary down for the next two years and Russell better damn well do it if he knows whats’ good for him!
December 7th, 2009 at 2:33 am
Restructure Heywood Bey`s contract and give it to Murphy
December 7th, 2009 at 2:34 am
Who cares abt Russel he will be out of the league in two or a at best a backup like Grossman
December 7th, 2009 at 3:51 am
Grads had a good game…
is he the QB of the future???
uh, not so fast… let’s see him do well the rest of the way…
Russell, however, is a problem… if Grads performs the rest of the way… then Russell has to go…
Russell did it to himself…
some people win the lottery and still want to work…
some people don’t…
we can safely say JaCarcass is in the 2nd group…
December 7th, 2009 at 3:55 am
this coming draft is a rebuilding draft…
that’s right… it’s time to rebuild…
morrison and howard’s contracts are up…
i say resign howard for reasonable money and let morrison go unless he resigns for cheap…
morrison becomes a backup to whoever we draft… because in my opinion… our biggest need on defense is a MLB… a run stuffing MLB…
i still wish we had taken Jaspar Brinkley…
December 7th, 2009 at 3:57 am
we can safely put DHB on the practice squad…
gets him off the roster on gameday…
and maybe, if we’re really lucky…
someone grabs him and his salary…
December 7th, 2009 at 3:57 am
A thought:
First, Great win. Today was Production over Hype….Hard Work over Draft Status….read Russell, DHB and McFadden vs. the production of Gradkowski, Murphy and Fargas.
This offseason will be a defining one. Here is the deal.
If Al Davis goes with Russell next year over Gradkowski and his production…..I gotta believe that some loyal posters will start sounding more like Real MR…….
Just a thought.
By the way….Bush needs more than 1 carry a game. He’s done here too. Better draft a running back because FArgas turns 30 and McFadden is a bust
December 7th, 2009 at 4:00 am
Pete,
You can put DHB and Russell on the practice squad.
In an uncapped year next year…I am doing some house cleaning.
Cut Russell
Cut DHB
Cut McFadden
Restructure or cut Huff, Kelly and Warren
Get the salary in line with the performance because these lower round picks that are performing well are going to start asking for money in 2011
December 7th, 2009 at 4:04 am
Al Davis should give up drafting in the 1st round. His 1st round picks are disasters.
Let some fan draft in the 1st round….then let Davis have the rest of the draft….he seems to find gems later in the draft anyway
December 7th, 2009 at 4:06 am
Again,
Big question in offseason:
Gradkowski PRODUCTION vs. Russell’s support from DAVIS
The impact of this decision will be huge for the fanbase. I think that petition/billboard would triple if Russell starts over Gradkowski again.
Be interested to hear the opinion on this from the Raider Nation!
December 7th, 2009 at 4:21 am
NFLN played a great call by Greg Papa calling Gradkowski “Bruce Almighty.” That’s a nickname that ought to stick.
December 7th, 2009 at 4:28 am
What a huge game by Murphy as well. Didn’t even start and racked up 128 yards receiving and 2 TDs. Plus he burned his man early in the game and Gradkowski overthrew him by about 1-2 feet or else he could’ve had another long score.
December 7th, 2009 at 4:34 am
Raiders are 2-1 against 3 very good teams with Gradkowski starting. Plus two of those games were on the road. Makes you wonder where we would’ve been without JaMarcus under center all year.
Not to mention if DHB could catch a ball that hits him right in the numbers we probably beat the Chiefs and are 5-7 right now anyway with a few winnable games remaining.
December 7th, 2009 at 4:40 am
Gradkowski in 3 games as a starter vs. JaMarcus in 9 games as a starter:
Gradkowski: 691 yards, 6 TDs, 1 INT, 2-1 record
JaMarcus: 1,064 uards, 2 TDs, 9 INTs, 2-7 record
December 7th, 2009 at 4:47 am
I mean, JaMarcus wasn’t even averaging 120 passing yards per game this season. WTF is that?
You guys can talk all you want about Kirk and McFadden and Kelly and whoever else you think isn’t getting the job done, but the only reason the Raiders have a losing record right now is because JaMarcus is not and may never be a solid NFL QB. Those other guys would be components of a winning team if we had better QB play. With say Peyton Manning I have little doubt that we’re 8-4 or better rather than 4-8 right now. And if JaMarcus were still starting I have little doubt that we’d be 2-10 rather than 4-8.
December 7th, 2009 at 4:49 am
SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
December 7th, 2009 at 3:57 am
A thought:
First, Great win. Today was Production over Hype….Hard Work over Draft Status….read Russell, DHB and McFadden vs. the production of Gradkowski, Murphy and Fargas.
This offseason will be a defining one. Here is the deal.
If Al Davis goes with Russell next year over Gradkowski and his production…..I gotta believe that some loyal posters will start sounding more like Real MR…….
Just a thought.
By the way….Bush needs more than 1 carry a game. He’s done here too. Better draft a running back because FArgas turns 30 and McFadden is a bust
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i agree with all of this…
the MBush thing bothers me… he is without question (in my mind) the best running back we have…
so what is the freaking problem !!!
if we’re not going to play him… then let’s trade him… my guess is he has HUGE trade value… a cheap contract and proven ability at this level…
December 7th, 2009 at 4:55 am
Michael Bush Running Back 7/25/2007:
Signed a four-year, $2.165 million contract. The deal included a $500,000 signing bonus.
2009: $460,000,
2010: $550,000,
2011: Free Agent
December 7th, 2009 at 5:08 am
if i’m M Bush… i can’t wait to get away from Cable…
and Davis for that matter…
a little history…
Bush needed rehab time…
we had an opportunity to activate him midway through Kiffie’s first season…
but we didn’t… cause we were afraid someone might pick up Lamont “my bad” Jordan…
why we didn’t clear a spot by cutting one of our QB’s is beyond me…
but… end result… we didn’t know what Bush could do going into the draft…
so we felt obliged to take McTiptoes and the rest is history…
December 7th, 2009 at 5:13 am
I bet that was a sweet plane ride home.
BIG WIN!!
Headed out the door with a big grin
Time to puff out my chest and give all the haters a hard time today.
December 7th, 2009 at 5:19 am
Yesterday defied everything I have come to know about the team
Went back east in freezing tems for a early game and beat the world chumpions in their ballpark.
We went ahead and I thought if only we can hold them off cause we will never do it again.
Boom we do it again but we can never do it again. Please stop the steelers.
They score again, game over but that was a great ghame.
BOOM, Gradkowski does the impossible!!
What a game
December 7th, 2009 at 5:24 am
I hope Gallery and Statele are ok
December 7th, 2009 at 5:47 am
Wow how much did the Steelers miss Troy they looked just avg, I’ve always been for Bush and Mcfadden but if Fargas is running harder and fumbling less he will get the calls the last fumble by Bush vs Cin and game before asking for a breather have really put him in the doghouse but we won so I’m happy.
GO RAIDERS!!!!!!!!!!!!
December 7th, 2009 at 6:04 am
GOOD MORNING SPORT’S FAN’S,LOOK’D LIKE THE RAIDER’S WON AND LOST THAT GAME A COULE OF TIMES IN THE FEW MINITUES YESTERDAY.VERY ENTERTAINING AND FUN TO WATCH BEEN A WHILE..
December 7th, 2009 at 6:06 am
Good Morning Nation!!!
Yes…I was in shock! Gradkowski threw more TD’s (3) in the 4th qtr than JaMarcus threw all year!
That speaks volumes! Now, What would have happened if we benched Russell sooner?
December 7th, 2009 at 6:09 am
BOOM, Gradkowski does the impossible!!
What a game
Yeah…when the Steelers scored with just under 2 minutes to go…my son told me that we’re going to lose! I gave him a body shot and told him NEVER ever say that! Never give up…that is for quitters only! Yes, based on the law of averages…(the last 6+ years) we would have lost that game!
I hugged my son after that game and taught him the importance of NEVER giving up. Never say that you cannot do!!!
December 7th, 2009 at 6:14 am
THAT IS A TOUGH QUESTION HWNDR, IF RUSSELL HAD BEN BENCHED SOONER,WOULD PROBABLY BE 4-8 AND GRADKOWSKI WOULD BE HURT..
December 7th, 2009 at 6:19 am
They need to re-sign Bruce right now, before his stock goes up even more. Give him 3 years, 8 million total with playoff and playing time incentives. He will sign it in a heartbeat.
All the haters, MR especially, keep bringing up that Jamarcus will be the starter next year, and that Al won’t give up on him. But Al has never supported a quitter, and that’s what Jamarcus has done. He mentally checked out during the bye week and that’s what lead to Bruce getting more reps before the Chiefs game, and the subsequent benching FOR THE REST OF THE YEAR. Al might not get the chance to never give up on Jamarcus, Russell might beat him too it and just give up. Stay tuned on this.
Besides, Al will support Bruce if he is throwing 75 yard TD passes and beating the Steelers. Always golden in Al’s eyes.
December 7th, 2009 at 6:25 am
Yeah, I thought of that, too Dirt Lot! In this day of age…one will never know!
Vegas…I agree! Grads is starting to feel comfortable…lock him up now (even if he does revert back to the back up role for some strange reason)…
December 7th, 2009 at 6:29 am
Good morning nation, the only nation.
I watched the game with my 9 year old son. So sad for him that he hasnt experienced the good times with this team. Yesterday he had up’s and downs, my 9 year old couldnt understand why Hines Ward got away with the facemask on C-Johnson for the thought to be game winning TD. I looked at him with a straight face and said son when you’re a fan of the Raiders get used to it. He said to me and i quote my 9 year old “dad a good team will come back from a mistake by another person”. I thought about it for like 2 seconds still pissed that it wasnt called. Then i watched the final drive my son grinning and smiling OMG i couldnt believe what i was witnessing a beautiful drive a composed QB, and WR getting open. So does my son have something that the Raiders need “confidence”, i think they got that yesterday. Lets hope they ride this wave and that Gradkowski’s mom cooks the offense more food lol.
December 7th, 2009 at 6:41 am
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December 7th, 2009 at 6:43 am
I second that:
If McFadden is soooo good in the open, why isn’t he returning kicks?
December 7th, 2009 at 6:45 am
EJ Henderson broke his leg last night…
that means Jaspar Brinkley will get his time at MLB…
it’ll be interesting to see how well he does the rest of this season…
and playoffs…
December 7th, 2009 at 6:46 am
BDAtlanta Says:
December 7th, 2009 at 6:43 am
I second that:
If McFadden is soooo good in the open, why isn’t he returning kicks?
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he tends to fumble on returns…
check his college stats…
December 7th, 2009 at 6:46 am
We will continue to focus on production and pay for players who are producing for the Raiders.
No free agents!!!!!!!
We will continue to build through the draft.
2010 it will be the lines.
We will complete the final “cleanup” of 2008:
Walker will be gone.
Warren will be gone.
Kelly will restructure his deal or will be gone.
These three simply are not NFL starters but are being paid like one.
Green and Carlisle will not start next year and at best will be reserves which is what they are at this point in their careers.
Ellis would like to stay but may not have much left in the tank.
(Still do not think we will draft to rebuild the lines in 2010?)
Gradkowski obviously will be resigned as will Seymour.
Yes. JR will restructure or he will be gone as well.
Mr Davis would like him to stay but he WILL take a big pay cut.
This is a must in order to upgrade the lines.
Cable is doing a terrific job of cleaning up the Lombardi and Kiffin mess.
This coaching staff is doing a great job of teaching “kids” and persevering with below average line play.
December 7th, 2009 at 6:51 am
Ok people i think we as fans have gone to far.
I signed the pettetion but only for big Al to get some help. I would never ask a man that brought me and my family together on sundays to watch football. I love the raiders and i wear there logo on my arm daily (tattoo). I think it is wrong for us to badmouth Mr Davis when he has never given up on a person, yet we gave up on him. See the thing is we have a team we like maybe a little to much, but this is Mr Davis life and work, it is only our entertainment. So who do we think we are asking him to step down or telling him how to run his buisness. As fans it’s easy we have no accountability if he does listen to us. His choices fall on him cause he made them and he alone takes the blame. Players have said in the past not these pre madonna players we have now “ouch dont hit me in the head” pansies, that Mr davis has done so much for them. Not to mention his record of hiring people that would have never gotten an opportunity elswhere. Jon Gruden does not badmouth this team without Davis he might still be an O-cordinator. People ridiculed Davis for hiring John Madden yet he says Davis would the first person he would call if he ever needed anything. See so he does not give up on people like we have given up on him.
In the end it’s his choice, it’s his team, and we have the right to disagree but never the right to tell a man how to run his livelyhood. I agree he needs help and i think he see’s that but when media and fans make fun of him it’s in poor taste with all that he has done for this league and people in general. Anyone that knows anything about Mr Davis it’s his generousity to help others no matter the situation.
When a well known fan from L.A. that dresses in spikes and makes everygame lost his job Mr Davis funded his tickets and trips to oakland. So he never stops thinking about us or his players. But when we turn on him i think it kills him a little inside as i dont think he thought he would ever see the day when his most loyal Raider Nation would give up on him. Have we lost respect, i have not.
Respect is lost nowdays but that is the first thing i taught my kids. Remember without Mr Davis we would not have the NFL or Madden on PS3.
December 7th, 2009 at 6:53 am
R8dr4lfe21…post 365…well said!
December 7th, 2009 at 7:09 am
All I know is that I hope we repeat what we did yesterday on Sunday! Whew…the Redskins almost beat the Saints!
December 7th, 2009 at 7:12 am
I’m going to milk this win for this whole week.
Finally i get to talk some smack lol.
December 7th, 2009 at 7:24 am
Ahhh…Victory Monday!
Coffee tastes a little sweeter, air a little crisper, yeah now, I remember this feeling.
Rock On Nation…
Oh Yeah, Grads is the MAN!
Get used to it…
December 7th, 2009 at 7:25 am
Florida Pete Says:
December 7th, 2009 at 4:55 am
Michael Bush Running Back 7/25/2007:
Signed a four-year, $2.165 million contract. The deal included a $500,000 signing bonus.
2009: $460,000,
2010: $550,000,
2011: Free Agent
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Without a CBA, he is restricted in 2011 and a FA in 2012.
December 7th, 2009 at 7:26 am
Deep within the bowels of the Legion of Doom (Oakland Raiders Headquarters – Alameda, CA), the Supreme Commander of the Silver & Black meets with his lackey, Head Coach Tom Cable following a victory over the Steelers in Pittsburgh.
Cable: Wow, 300 yards and 3 TDs! Mr. Davis, I think we have a real shot at turning the corner here. Murphy was fantastic! We let Santonio tear up our zones a bit and I think that Branch was late on a few plays, but overall, I think we looked pretty good.
We tighten up those zones and have our backers keep shooting those gaps, we may have something here.
Al: Zones? Zones are for inferior teams, Tim…
Cable: *sigh* …Tom.
Al: That’s MR. DAVIS to you, potato head!
Cable: No, I’m Tom.
Al: You’re retarded. Listen, I didn’t pay Asomugha 14 million dollars to blitz the QB. He will be playing man exclusively on the left side next week.
Cable: The Redskins will eat Chris Johnson alive!
Al: So be it. Get Russell ready and tell that Pollock he’s done.
Later at the press conference….
Cable: After careful consideration, I consulted with the, um, all the quarterbacks and we, as a group, decided JaMarcus gives us the best opportunity to win. Heyward-Bey will be starting in place of Higgins, who is presently too scared to come out from under the covers.
December 7th, 2009 at 7:26 am
This whole QB debate with the Raiders is really quite simply analyzed. AD, ever since “The Mad Bomber,” has always had a fascination with cannon-armed QBs; ie Dan Pastorini, Jim Plunkett, Jeff George, Ja-ba The Hut Russell. But of that QB type, only Lamonica & Plunkett succeeded. But not just because they had strong arms (Pastorini and George could really fling it). No, they also had the intangibles (leadership, desire, football smarts). Stabler & Gannon were never considered strong-armed quarterbacks, but they also possessed those intangibles. Gradkowski has them. JaBust never will. Badmouth AD all you want — a lot of it lately is deservedly so — but remember his main motto: “Just Win Baby!” If Al thinks Bruce gives his team a better chance to win than JaMeatball, don’t think for a minute he would step in and make a change. This is not rocket science people. Bruce is the starter and JaFatAss would have to take the job back away from him, which I seriously doubt he is capable of doing.
December 7th, 2009 at 7:46 am
I think we should all milk this win as long as time lets us! Hey…15 point underdogs? 3 TD’s in the 4th (for a total of 5 TD’s combined), Grads keeping everyone poised out there and overcoming penalties and stupid mistakes to win a game in December on the road in the East Coast?
Party on Nation!!! … and FREE 4EVA!!!!
December 7th, 2009 at 7:55 am
I’ve been saying all along we need to play our most productive players and not those who are playing just to get playing time because of high draft pick.
I think if we didn’t FORCE THE ISSUE and play Russell, DHB and Dmac we would’ve won at least half our games so far. If we played either Gradowski or Frye or whoever played best in Pre-Season. Didn’t keep DHB starting despite not catching anything. We could have won half our games. We could’ve won our 1st game in SD for sure. We could’ve won the KC game for sure. Others wouldn’t have turned as sour (like when Russell threw 2 Ints and fumbled in the 1st quarter against the Giants all leading to TDs).
December 7th, 2009 at 7:56 am
Now, if we give Bush a chance (since he’s our most productive RB) we may improve EVEN MORE
December 7th, 2009 at 7:57 am
Gannon, Brady, Warner….recent examples of back-up material QBs…no such thing as a back-up QB, only QBs on the field or on the bench, only QBs with winning attitude or no attitude..
December 7th, 2009 at 7:58 am
I think Bruce is so comfortable at the end of games due to all the playing-time and crazy games he played in at college. I know it was only Toledo, but he was in a ton of shootouts in the 40’s and has lots of experience trying to put together quick scoring drives.
Of his 6 TD’s, 4 are in the 4th Quarter and one was at the end of the half.
Laugh all you want, but maybe they should throw in some no-huddle in the middle of the game. It’s were he is really at his best.
Safe to say he ACTUALLY took advantage of all the experience and knowledge that Paul Hackett, Ted Tolner and even Jeff Garcia brought to the table. Jamarcus had a chance and blew it, it was clearly not Cable and Hackett’s fault for his regression this year. Bruce progressed just fine.
December 7th, 2009 at 7:59 am
And….please please please please please don’t tell me they’ll put DHB back in as a starter next week now that his foot is better….make him earn his time.
December 7th, 2009 at 7:59 am
Fargas stays as the starter he has earned it. Bush and Mcfadden can learn a thing or 2 from him. Hard runner, he seems to think he has the body of Brandon jacobs, while D-Mac and bush seem to think there talent will prevail. Did anyone see Crabtree alligator arm the ball in the endzone “pussie”.
December 7th, 2009 at 8:02 am
Patriots, Cowboys, 49ers all lose. Oh yeah Steelers to.
All in all a great sunday oh and Vrabel going off on his ex coach wow.
December 7th, 2009 at 8:02 am
Wow, I only got to see the parts of the game televised by NFL Red Zone, but damn….who the hell was that guy throwing the ball? Couldn’t have been Garbagekowski!
Man, now that was an impressive victory!
If they can repeat that performance a couple more times over the last few weeks I may have to re-think my Cable and Garbagekowski bashing.
Hmmm.
I still have my doubts….but hmmmm.
December 7th, 2009 at 8:08 am
Fargas breaks tackles, Bush rarely does and Darren never does.
McFadden should got a few receptions a game, but should never get any runs between the tackles. After about 100 or so runs between the tackles in Darren’s career, I feel safe in saying he will never be effective at it.
RB needs to be addressed this offseason. Not priority number 1, but if they don’t add anybody, we could have Fargas again being our leader rusher in 2010 and that just isn’t acceptable.
December 7th, 2009 at 8:12 am
Dakota:
That’s an opinion that i can respect. I think that its the opinion that most Raider Fans should have. If we can get some consistant playcalling and consistant QB play then we might be on the right track. Find out which players are your foundation and build on that. I, for one didn’t expect “They Call me Bruce” to show this kind of leadership and fire. Looks like the formula for the Raiders might be having a “Gannon” style QB to motivate this offense. I hope he motivates DHB in practice and this Sunday against the ‘Skins so we can see if he can be a productive player. I hope that JRuss is taking notes.
At least the end of the season will be fun to watch. How many times over the last couple of years have we been able to say that?
December 7th, 2009 at 8:14 am
Vegas:
I’d like to see McFadden used as more of an H-Back type player. Throw some screens and passes out to him in the flat. Maybe every once in awhile some quick hitters up the middle when we are in passing downs just to break tendency. I’m still waiting for Cable to really uses his talent. Crashing him up the middle just doesn’t work.
December 7th, 2009 at 8:16 am
I think if Bruce was our QB all year, we might be among the league leaders in sacks allowed. What is that 4 in 3 games (against 3 good D’s)? With one yesterday on that stupid double-throw and the one in the Dallas game being the last play of the half.
That pace would be less than 20 a year. Shows how much of a rock Jamarcus is in the pocket.
December 7th, 2009 at 8:18 am
Damn,
Clausen is entering the NFL Draft…can’t blame him, he completed 68% of his passes for 28 TDs and 4 ints this year…he should be a top pick in the draft, and his numbers might suffer with a new HC at ND.
Still, sorry to see him go…and Junior QBs that come out have a tough time usually.
December 7th, 2009 at 8:19 am
This offense has some hard working players on it, they might not be the most talented but they are the hardest working. Gradkowski, Fargas, Mario, Z-miller, Chaz. Look at the difference it made, hell even D-Mac got into the smash mouth action by lowering his shoulder and knocking that lil Db on his arse. Gradkowski getting in the face of the DB after a hit out of bounds, the team not giving up after a blown facemask call on Hines Ward for the touchdown. He grabbed C-Johnsons face mask and used it as leverage to get ahead of him.
December 7th, 2009 at 8:19 am
DT42,
I think Darren’s receptions should be more down the field, like what they were trying to do in Dallas. His last swing pass he caught against Cincy, he got flatened immediately by the LB. He just doesn’t make guys miss. That 3rd down run yesterday was what he will do best, beat the LB to the corner and lower his shoulder for any extra yard or two.
Now Mendanhall is what a 1st round pick RB should look like. They guy was a beast and took multiple guys to bring him down often. Sometimes it doesn’t take ANYONE to take Darren down, he will just slip!!
December 7th, 2009 at 8:20 am
In the limited time I got to see the game I saw McFadden have a nice run on a 3rd and 2 and I thought, hey, maybe he is having a good game! And then I saw the box score…9 carries for 28 yards.
FUK!
December 7th, 2009 at 8:22 am
Love listing to Iverson crying cause nobody wanted him sweet, GO LAKERS!!!!!!!!!!!!
December 7th, 2009 at 8:22 am
Well at least you saw his best run of the day Dakota!!
December 7th, 2009 at 8:23 am
Greg Oden goes down…sorry Oaklifer!
December 7th, 2009 at 8:24 am
Also Mike Michelle missed 2 sacks wich would have given him a pretty good game. We are 2 blown assignments on the D-line away from having stuffed the run completely. The D looks better with scott on the field anywhere you put him he is tallying up the sack #’s. Stanford Rout played a good game, he allowed some completion but he was on both of them, and could have had som INT’s. Another Nnamdi protege i might add.
December 7th, 2009 at 8:25 am
We finally turned the corner, it only took 3 games for Grad to make it happen. Now the D beleives in the offense and the young wideouts are more confident with a qb that goes to whoevers open, can buy time with his feet, and it intelligent enough to go to his 2nd or 3rd option. We can compete for a playoff berth for years to come with this nucleus. I hope Cables back but let’s see if he’s man enough to start Murphy and Schilens over DHB
December 7th, 2009 at 8:25 am
Why no mcfadden on ko instead of russell gotta get our moneys worth like Bush with saints make him do it all, lets see more fargas,dmac together in backfield and spread dmac out chaz,miller,murphy,dmac and jlh if he is alive give bruce some actual weapons.
December 7th, 2009 at 8:25 am
# Dakota Says:
December 7th, 2009 at 8:20 am
In the limited time I got to see the game I saw McFadden have a nice run on a 3rd and 2 and I thought, hey, maybe he is having a good game! And then I saw the box score…9 carries for 28 yards.
FUK!
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Yeah, McFadden isn’t cutting it. Fargas just had one of his best games in a while. Bush wasn’t given a chance. I think if Bush got McFadden’s 9 carries he would’ve had at least 36-40 yards. I only remember once when he got more than 5-6 carries and wasn’t our back with the highest YPC average.
December 7th, 2009 at 8:27 am
VEGAS
With all due respect, we were fortunate that some of the ducks Bruce threw up were not picked off.
The Oline once again made our QB throw off his back foot and severely alter his mechanics.
Bruce is athletic enough to do it but we are on borrowed time.
I understand that periodically we will have breakdowns but come on.
Leading the league in sacks allowed????????
Good pass prtection starts with letting your QB step into throws.
Good Olines allow the running game to consistently be a threat to run play action effectively.
I give our Oline credit in making our run game respectable yesterday against a tough opponent but we have a long way to go!!!!!
December 7th, 2009 at 8:27 am
Man – that’s going to be interesting….because I think Mike Mitchell is actually going to be DAMNED solid. How to figure and get him into the Safety rotation….despite the fact that probably our 2nd best player on “D” right now is at the same position as him.
December 7th, 2009 at 8:29 am
Charlie – it’s true, but we also had 3 of our O-Linemen out. One of them had to play at Guard who hadn’t played there one snap during his NFL carreer. It was patchwork this week.
December 7th, 2009 at 8:29 am
The last quarter was the Fargas show, they kept him to help block on Harrison and did a great job. Giving Gradkowski time to find some open targets, not to mention the WR did there part and caught the balls. Chaz is gaining his feel for the game, he dropped 1 but he was pissed about it. I like the attitude Murphy and Chaz have they will be great. JLH stopped running on a route sad to see after a decent game by him. We still have to many dumb penalties but we overcame them on sunday.
December 7th, 2009 at 8:30 am
Loved Plunkett on winning TD he went crazy it was awesome just love the guy.
December 7th, 2009 at 8:31 am
Damn, I wish I could watch this game to see how the hell we did this!
December 7th, 2009 at 8:31 am
Agreed Charlie.
Gradkowski is better suited for scramble breakdown offense but you can only swim away from the sharks for so long.
December 7th, 2009 at 8:32 am
the Michael Bush thing bothers me… he is without question (in my mind) the best running back we have…
so what is the freaking problem !!!
if we’re not going to play him… then let’s trade him… my guess is he has HUGE trade value… a cheap contract and proven ability at this level…
Michael Bush Running Back 7/25/2007:
Signed a four-year, $2.165 million contract. The deal included a $500,000 signing bonus.
2009: $460,000,
2010: $550,000,
2011: Free Agent
if i’m M Bush… i can’t wait to get away from Cable…
and Davis for that matter…
a little history…
Bush needed rehab time…
we had an opportunity to activate him midway through Kiffie’s first season…
but we didn’t… cause we were afraid someone might pick up Lamont “my bad” Jordan…
why we didn’t clear a spot by cutting one of our QB’s is beyond me…
but… end result… we didn’t know what Bush could do going into the draft…
so we felt obliged to take McTiptoes and the rest is history…
December 7th, 2009 at 8:34 am
Playing with 3 safeties looks good better the having an outside LB that cant cover or fight off of blocks. Thats how Michelle plays as an outside LB with speed blitzing Big Ben just used his escapability yesterday or he would have been sacked a total of 5 times.
December 7th, 2009 at 8:35 am
Mendenhall is on my fantasy football team, him and Brees
life is good.
December 7th, 2009 at 8:36 am
M-Bush sucks at picking up the blitz. Mcfadden and Fargas are light years ahead of him in this category. With our O-Line we need a back that will stick his head in there and block.
December 7th, 2009 at 8:36 am
No complaints here. When was the last time we went to the northeast and beat a playoff caliber team? its been 7 years I guess…if we beat the steelers in 3 rivers with this crew, then we have a shot every sunday. Heck, Seymore might just think twice before he leaves.
December 7th, 2009 at 8:38 am
I’m hoping that DHB’s injury is season ending. The IR would be nice. The WR’s did a lot better with him in street clothes.
December 7th, 2009 at 8:38 am
I actually thought D-Mac played decent yesterday. Not many yards on the ground but he had great blitz pick up and the D had to account for him on his route running. When he did run he ran hard, that wears on a D.
December 7th, 2009 at 8:40 am
I wouldnt wish injury on anyone let alone a member of our team. I do agree on putting the best players on the field though.
December 7th, 2009 at 8:43 am
Fargas gets the most carries because he deserves it.
December 7th, 2009 at 8:46 am
Attitude. Fargas, Grad, Nnamdi…I wish they made a stop watch that could measure it, and I’d chrsitmas-wrap it for ol Al…
December 7th, 2009 at 8:46 am
Fargas is what i want from our whole team. No celebrity, no overhyped mentality, and if we ever released him bet on him being signed fast. Many coaches have marveled over his hard nosed approach and work ethic.
December 7th, 2009 at 8:46 am
Fargas is the best fit for the ZBS.
Best could be an option in the draft unless we can get Bush and McFadden to produce.
Funny, our three headed monster was supposed to be the strength of the team, but Fargas is the #1 back.
I still don’t understand why so many have a problem with this. Fargas picks up the blitz almost every time.
McFadden and Bush have improved in this area, but Cable will roll with Fargas until Fargas is ineffective.
The fumbles really hurt their stock with Cable, IMO.
December 7th, 2009 at 8:47 am
Maverick
I agree.
That is why we need to draft Oline talent this April.
Green, Walker and Carlisle are BACKUPS at this stage of their careers.
They can fill in for a game or a half but they should not be starting.
I am very happy about the win and it is huge for this team.
I posted earlier today that we still have some cleanup to do from the 08 mess but Cable and the rest of the coaches are doing a great job.
December 7th, 2009 at 8:49 am
Attitude, and the passion to not let Money or hype get to you. You play this game to be the best reguardless of draft status. Playing to win at any cost, Fargas was bashed before the season started by many on here. Were would we be without him now. He reads the things we say but his mentality is above us or those who bash him. Cause he knows hard work pays off.
December 7th, 2009 at 8:50 am
We gotta trade up to get Suh.
December 7th, 2009 at 8:53 am
Branch is a sure tackler, but is late in coverage.
Chris Johnson wears you like a jacket inside the numbers (outside, not so good, which is a problem for a bump and run defense).
Mike Mitchell’s responsibilty was to smash Big Ben which he could not do.
Scott looked good at LB and should progress in that position or wherever they stick him, although I think he’s mor suited for a 3-4 situational pass rusher.
Morrison is a liability at MLB.
Bey was out. WRs productive. Nuff said.
Speaking of which, Louis Murphy…WOW! Attacking the ball.
Guy has his confidence back with a QB that gives him an opportunity to make a play.
I was the last guy to support Russell. No more excuses, we have our QB in there. Russell went backwards and Gradkowski went forward.
This gives Cable the opportunity to get his guys in there. Expect the O Line and D Line to be addressed next year, but don’t be surprised if we get a CB on the first day in April. Actually, this year I think it’s neccecary as teams have figured out CJ.
December 7th, 2009 at 8:55 am
Lets not forget Murphy he had a breakout game. Lets hope he like the feeling of getting into the endzone cause he had another 2 touchdowns if gradkowski places the ball in the right spot.
December 7th, 2009 at 8:55 am
r8dr4lfe21 Says:
December 7th, 2009 at 8:38 am
I actually thought D-Mac played decent yesterday. Not many yards on the ground but he had great blitz pick up and the D had to account for him on his route running. When he did run he ran hard, that wears on a D.
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Sounds a lot like the great decoy and fantastic blocking skills of DHB. Yes D-mac had to be accounted for and he blocked well, but just like DHB not being able to catch, Darren doesn’t have the ability to pick up yards. Kind of important for his job.
December 7th, 2009 at 8:56 am
morning all…..
and FREE 4VA!!
December 7th, 2009 at 8:58 am
Charlie,
I saw Gradkowski step up in the pocket on everyone of his TD throws, with the last one coming on a big Steelers blitz.
Just admit it, the O-line played very well yesterday. It’s OK. I think Gradkowski two sacks were on the first play when his RB accidently knocked the ball out of his hands and than on the stupid double-pass. Other than that, ZERO SACKS. Proof is in the pudding my friend.
December 7th, 2009 at 8:59 am
Enjoyed the game but,just once…….just once can we have a game without “there’s a flag on the play-that big play by the Raiders is coming back”
December 7th, 2009 at 9:00 am
r8dr4lfe21 Says:
December 7th, 2009 at 8:40 am
I wouldnt wish injury on anyone let alone a member of our team. I do agree on putting the best players on the field though.
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Already has the injury per Cable, wink wink.
December 7th, 2009 at 9:03 am
I still think that Dmac can produce for this team,once we find the right plays for him.
1st and 10 – Dmac between the tackles for no gain is killing us.
December 7th, 2009 at 9:04 am
BD
I agree, Suh is an absolute beast and a smart player.
You gotta look at who will be picking in the top 10 next year.
St. Louis
Cleveleland
Tampa Bay
Detroit
Kansas City
Washington
Buffalo
Oakland
And there are several teams who are curently 5-7 that could rise or drop.
For all we know, Oakland might be out of the top 10 if we get hot down the stretch.
Of those teams, who needs a QB? RB? WR?
Bulger is on his way out the door, Quinn needs a WR (and a defense, so Cleveland is a mystery), Tampa Bay’s got their QB and RB and Bryant at WR I guess and in need of a guy like Suh. KC grabbed Dorsey and may be patient with him, Washington has Haynesworth.
Point is, Suh will certainly be gone by the time we pick, however Cody may be around if we don’t toss a few of our extra picks to someone for a trade up.
December 7th, 2009 at 9:05 am
December 7th, 2009 at 9:03 am
1st and 10 – Dmac between the tackles for no gain is killing us.
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Yes I agree, giving the ball to Darren on first down is killing us.
December 7th, 2009 at 9:06 am
Russell, DHB and McFadden…none are producing…man, they have been paid something like $70 million already…for nothing…ouch.
December 7th, 2009 at 9:06 am
over the past 2 seasons M Bush has had:
180 carries
807 yards
5 TDs
3 fumbles
4.5 yards per carry avg
over the past 2 seasons Fargas has has:
335 carries
1315 yards
3 TDs
3 fumbles (none this year)
3.9 yards per carry avg
now apparently some of you do not care about rushing yards or touchdowns or homerun threat…
what matters most is can the guy pick up a blitz…
December 7th, 2009 at 9:08 am
Pete…
I may be wrong but has Fargas ever played a 16 game season ? Don’t think he has.
December 7th, 2009 at 9:10 am
neither has bush…
your point is… what???
December 7th, 2009 at 9:10 am
sup nation big win for the raiders yesterday
December 7th, 2009 at 9:11 am
People want to talk about Darren playing “Well” yesterday and Bush not getting his chance, but nobody, I mean NOBODY is prasing Fargas for how well he played yesterday.
3rd and 10 draw and he picks up a first down?? Freaking great!!!
I would like him to be a backup too, but I would like the guy starting in front of him to be better than him. Sadly, Bush and Darren are not.
December 7th, 2009 at 9:12 am
there record 4-8 is deceiving cause you know when we play goood on def/off were tough to beat. its not we beat some soryy teams.
December 7th, 2009 at 9:12 am
disagree vegas…
Bush is better…
December 7th, 2009 at 9:13 am
mcfadden is not being used right thats why he’s struggling but fargus is the man u have to play him
most of the time.
December 7th, 2009 at 9:14 am
Pete….
I was just thinking that Bush will get a chance before the end of the season.That’s the only way I think Bush will move ahead of Fargas,because of injury.
December 7th, 2009 at 9:15 am
Biggest needs
MLB
DT
RCB
OLB
RG
C
We have to retain Seymour and have a beast or two at DT to free him up. Picture Suh at NG in a 3-4 with Seymour at RDE (moved around a bit, though if needed), Kelly at LDE, Scott and Howard on the outside, Morrison can be freed up by getting a beast to play Mike.
I know we do this every year, but this is not unrealistic.
Even at 4-3 or some hybrid looks, a new Mike in the Ray Lewis mold and a DT is very possible and I think likely.
Cable is not sold on Morrison, evident in camp.
I like Morrison as a will in a 3-4, because of his speed.
December 7th, 2009 at 9:15 am
Morning NAtion!
December 7th, 2009 at 9:18 am
We still need a FB!
December 7th, 2009 at 9:18 am
Move Walker to right guard.
December 7th, 2009 at 9:20 am
Pete, there are many reasons other than blitz pick up why Fargas is the guy right now.
He was picking up chunks of yardage… in the shotgun for god’s sake.
He keeps proving everyone in here wrong by playing a pivitol role in every win we’ve had.
Fargas has been slowing down a bit in the fourth this season, which is usually his strength, so I agree that Bush should be the closer, but give Fargas his props.
December 7th, 2009 at 9:24 am
# priesttj Says:
December 6th, 2009 at 4:39 pm
I keep telling you guy’s it’s obvious that Cable drafted DHB, he never says a negative thing about that kid and he cost us at least one and maybe a many as three games with his drops and route running. We should never have drafted that kid………..period
DHB IMO is the single reason that Russell was benched because he refused to throw to him.
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LMAO!! Now I’ve heard it all.
December 7th, 2009 at 9:24 am
Watched the Vikes/Cards game.We should be using Dmac the same way the Vikes use Harvin.
They had him at WR,in the backfield,used him in end arounds and then used him to fake all the same plays.He was a constant problem for a very good Cards D.
December 7th, 2009 at 9:26 am
Move Russell to right guard.
December 7th, 2009 at 9:26 am
# 16yearsold16yearfan Says:
December 6th, 2009 at 4:32 pm
i dont understand how cable can get mad at bush for being tired after 5 straight runs for 30 yards and its not like hes just running he was busting through the lines and fighting off tackles that was just a bogus reason to keep him out of the game
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Couldn’t agree more, 16year. Bush always seems to be in Cable’s doghouse for one reason or another. Seems like the coach had it in for him ever since he didn’t want to play FB.
December 7th, 2009 at 9:30 am
“Bruce was like, `Stop (bleeping) looking at that thing and get your mind right,’ ” Henderson said. “I looked at him like, `You talkin’ to me?’ . . . I was like, `OK, you’re right. You’re right. You the man. You the man.’ ”
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That’s a F’N leader and a MAN right there. Little guy telling it like it is to a big lineman. And you can bet your azz that Henderson now has all the respect in the world for him too, because of it.
Keep it up Bruce. At least until the old goon, Davis, decides you should be benched in favor of “the great playuh”
Davis – PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE trade out of the first round. You have no business making picks early in the draft. Your track record CLEARLY shows this. Either trade down or trade for proven players like you did for Seymour.
December 7th, 2009 at 9:32 am
So we found our vocal leader on the offense. Who will step up and be our vocal leader on the D??????
…………….Nnamdi?????
December 7th, 2009 at 9:32 am
i suppose my greatest irritation is not so much that fargas is playing…
it is that McTiptoe is playing ahead of Bush…
McTiptoe this year has 72 carries, 230 yards for an impressive 3.2 average… oh, and he has 3 fumbles (this year)… Bush has one fumble this year…
Bush was a steal in the draft… and having him ride the pine is a great way to not only lose him…
but a really good reason for him to grind an axe against this franchise…
but here… it matters who you know and how much you get paid…
not ability…
December 7th, 2009 at 9:33 am
Man, to win a big game on the road against a desperate, hard nose team like the Steelers was awesome!!!!!
The Steelers intensity on defense was match by the Raiders determination to get it done on offense.This is what The Raiders lacked before yesterday.This is not a stroke of luck. It felt like a gel ,if you will, took form with QB & receiver and thanks to great protection at that time,the Raiders prevailed.
L.Murphy is a authentic receiver and should be treated as one. Murphy and Chaz should be listed as starters because they are, in my opinion, the two best receivers.Those Two receivers give the Raiders the best chance of being productive and winning games.Simple though, when the ball is in the air who are the two best receivers on the Raiders that you put trust in to come down with it? Higgins earns third spot with DHB alternating.
Give Gradkowski the best chance of winning games by Keeping the best core skill set players on the field. This includes receivers that route run the best,block and catch.I like the kid DHB so do him a favor. Make him earn the staring position instead of handing him the silver plate.
Raiders Be With You.
December 7th, 2009 at 9:33 am
Someone tell coach to get his head out of his ass and give bush some 1st and 10 touches!! Fargas is 29 going on 30! you all know what happens at 30!
December 7th, 2009 at 9:37 am
Vegas
Gradkowski played well.
Our Oline played better than it has but the proof is we are 4-8 and have had six consecutive losing seasons.
We will not become a playoff team until we improve our team starting with the Oline.
You are in the significant minority if you believe
Henderson,Walker,Morris,Carlisle,Green are taking us to a Super bowl win.
By the way that is what this is about, not beating an average Steeler team.
Just the age of Carlisle and Green and Gallery’s injury woes should worry uou.
The Dline at tackle is pathetic.
Zero face pressure and zero plays by the Dline when it counted.
You keep talking about the Cardinals. Did you watch last nights game?
Favre looked pretty average with some heat in his face.
The Cards neutralized Allen(see Oline) and Warner could step into throws.
December 7th, 2009 at 9:41 am
Was that a nickel package we were running with Mitchell?
December 7th, 2009 at 9:44 am
new post
December 7th, 2009 at 9:50 am
Today is a GREAT day to be a Raider fan, isn’t it?
Had to walk over to the local dive this morning in the rain to get my ride from the parking lot, having to leave it there yesterday after consuming numerous victory shots of Patron bought for me by the Steeler fans in attendance with whom I had bets with.
It was worth every step!
December 7th, 2009 at 9:53 am
You guys remember how good our O-line was when Gannon played? and how average the Oline looked when Gannon got hurt? QBs help Olines like Olines help QBs…I agree this aint the 1976 Shell led Oline, but c’mon give these guys some continuity under a QB that helps them out.
December 7th, 2009 at 9:53 am
# LA to TheBay Says:
December 7th, 2009 at 9:15 am
Biggest needs
MLB
DT
RCB
OLB
RG
C
We have to retain Seymour and have a beast or two at DT to free him up. Picture Suh at NG in a 3-4 with Seymour at RDE (moved around a bit, though if needed), Kelly at LDE, Scott and Howard on the outside, Morrison can be freed up by getting a beast to play Mike.
I know we do this every year, but this is not unrealistic.
Even at 4-3 or some hybrid looks, a new Mike in the Ray Lewis mold and a DT is very possible and I think likely.
Cable is not sold on Morrison, evident in camp.
I like Morrison as a will in a 3-4, because of his speed.
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3-4 Defense next year is nor unrealistic:
DE – Seymour (He played 3-4 DE in NE)
NT – NEED
DE – Kelly (Seymour’s same mold at 6′6” 300)
OLB – Scott (Perfect fit: 6′5′ 250 pass rusher great speed)
WILB – Morrison (Cover Mike LB, weak run defender)
SILB – NEED
OLB – Ellis (He played the position in Dallas)
Thomas Howard does not fit this defense, but he is a FA this season.
Desmond Bryant (6′5′ 290) and Richardson (6′6′ 280) are perfect to play 3-4 Defense.
Shaughnessy could move to OLB behind Ellis.
We need:
- WILB: Ricky Brown was tried at ILB in Training Camp and played ILB in College. He better in run defense than Morrison, he could play there. If not, Florida ILB BRandon Spikes is a perfect fit there via Draft.
- NT: Denver found a serviciable NT in Ronald Fields, who was a backup in SF, he was cheap. The draft has some players who could play there too:Tennesee’s Dan Williams (6′2” 325) or Alabama’s Terrence Cody (6′4” 365) could play there.
December 7th, 2009 at 9:56 am
I’ve read the articles written by Corkran and Jerry speculating on JRussell’s future with the Raids.
The consensus is he will be back as the Raids have too much invested in him and Davis will be reluctant to discard him as long as there’s the slightest hope he’ll develop into a decent QB.
This board has posters that are of the opinion it’s likely Russell will be back, starting at QB, and Gradkowski will be sent packing.
I disagree. And here’s why.
When Cable has been asked if Gradkowsi’s elevation to current starter and Russell’s demotion was a temporary move, he’s been very clear that Gradkowski would be starting the REST OF THE SEASON.
It wasn’t a case of ‘let’s see how he does, and we’ll evaluate our QB situation based on that’.
Nope. It was ‘JR IS DONE FOR THIS YEAR’. Period.
Well, I’ll be surprised if JR isn’t done with the Raids forever.
Rest assured Russell’s demotion to the bench was at Cable’s behest BUT with Al’s approval.
Davis knows this season is finished. If he retained any hope of Russell developing, he’d have insisted Cable play JR the remainder of the year and hopefully show some signs that he has a future.
That’s a big clue that the old man is ready to move on.
Look, when Davis gives up on a player, for whatever reason, that’s it. It’s virtually impossible to get out of his dog house. He doen’t care how much he’s paying the guy, where he was drafted, or how it will look.
Marcus Allen, DeAngelo Hall, Javon Walker, and many other examples tell us that Davis will get rid of players he has decided he doesn’t like, or won’t help the team, in a heartbeat.
The opposite is true too. If Davis likes the player and is perceived to be a loyal Raider, he’s going to get rewarded and be on a scholarship for as long as Davis wants him.
I submit that Davis has seen enough of Russell to know he’s not ever going to develop, isn’t the stuff Raiders are made of, and he will cut all ties with him.
At least I’m hoping so. Admittedly, I can’t stand Russell. I’m biased against him. Don’t like his image and the fact that he’s a blathering idiot.
But most of all, I can’t stand the fact that JR couldn’t hit water if he fell out of a boat and has none of the intangibles necessary to ucceed in the NFL.
Here’s hoping the old man has had it with Russell, because Raider fans deserve better than having to suffer waiting for JaMarcus to become something he never will be – a quality NFL QB.
December 7th, 2009 at 10:01 am
Both, JaMarcus and Gradkowski will be back.
They will sign a veteran to compete with them for the starting job, and the best man with start.
Same SF did with O’Sullivan, Alex Smith and Shaun Hill. They had some good play from a career backup (Hill) and the best out Alex Smith, who is starting right now doing a good job.
December 7th, 2009 at 10:51 am
Great win! Let’s wait until we see what happens next week with The Redskins before we start fanning each others huevos.If we win next week, I can see us going 7-9. If we get spanked, which has been our M.O. latley, then Bruce Almighty will be sitting behind Jacarcus next year after Coach Fassell is ordered to do so.
December 8th, 2009 at 8:49 pm
If he gets the win over the Redskins and Browns…and pulls an upset of the Broncos..it makes Davis’ job easier…write off Russell…go into an uncapped 2010 season and get a veteran and add more experience on defense.
Gradkowski with Jason Campbell as an emergency back up is looking better…especially if he can rally the team to 8-8
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