Gallery, Ellis absent
By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Wednesday, December 9th, 2009 at 12:53 pm in Oakland Raiders.
Left guard Robert Gallery and defensive end Greg Ellis were not on the field as the Raiders went through warmups and drills Wednesday before practice.
Gallery left the Raiders’ 27-24 win over Pittsburgh with a back strain of undetermined severity, while Ellis was inactive because of soreness in his surgical repaired knee.
Ellis, who was having fluid drained from his knee before surgery, has also had it performed after the fact, an indication he’ll probably be practicing and possibly playing on a limited basis and with the possibility he may not make it through the season.
Cable had no specifics on Gallery’s condition Monday. Gallery was not in the lockerroom Monday or Wednesday. One player said Gallery appeared fine Monday, but was getting an MRI and had complained of numbness in his legs immediately following the injury.
Center Samson Satele, who left in the first quarter of the Pittsburgh game, replaced by Chris Morris, said he was planning on practicing and was with the team for warmups and drills.
If Satele can play, Chris Morris, recipient of a game ball for his play at center, would be Gallery’s substitute at left guard.
More to come later . . .
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December 9th, 2009 at 12:54 pm
drowning in news
December 9th, 2009 at 12:56 pm
looks like L Walker staying at LG and no info on Satelle
December 9th, 2009 at 1:02 pm
Quick on the draw 4eva
December 9th, 2009 at 1:03 pm
Dakota
Don’t get me wrong, I think DMac could make a great contribution. Just not a RB. He’s just not very good between the tackles – chicken legs and not made for that type of action. They are meant to be in the open. Put him at slot WR running crossing patterns against LB’s & safeties. That and reverses. He’d be stellar and noteworthy. Until that happens, he’s just another scrub RB.
December 9th, 2009 at 1:04 pm
see sixto
December 9th, 2009 at 1:05 pm
Remember that defenses played 8 in the box against JaWalrus and there were no running lanes. If they have to respect our wide receivers (DHB on the bench), then it will open up the running game for McFadden. He was never a bull rusher.
December 9th, 2009 at 1:07 pm
Losing Gallery hurts. Satele is no loss. He should be the back-up anyway. Hope we get Gallery back quickly. This is the first time in quite a while when we had a strong & stable left side of the O-line. Hopefully Morris can step up more than he has already to make the C position what it used to be with Barrett Robbins. The C position is key to a successful running game.
December 9th, 2009 at 1:11 pm
I’ve seen Darren in plenty of one on one situations in space, were he gets flattened by the LB.
In the passing game he can be effective, but I see no reason why he should ever get too many handoffs in a game. He is just not as effective as Fargas and even Bush at times, taking a handoff
December 9th, 2009 at 1:13 pm
it shows imo already.Fargas took a pitch left vs.Cincy on a 1st down and got 10!!!!its been awhile since we did that…again in steAlers game Fargas took a pitch on a 1st down and got 10yds.Now the world champion’s are back-peddeling on defecne and deep in their own end here comes another pitch 2 Fargas LB’s bit and a TD for Chaz….just like they drew it up
December 9th, 2009 at 1:16 pm
Vegas
So what your saying is DMAC has played in 15 games and you know from those games watched he is no RB.
December 9th, 2009 at 1:19 pm
Dell,
Pretty much Dell. RB’s don’t develop, the good ones are great immediately 9 out of 10 times.
He never breaks tackles. His best run the past weekend was a 5 yarder.
I have seen him be effective catching the ball, I have never really seen him be effective between the tackles.
Play to his strengths.
December 9th, 2009 at 1:21 pm
RaiderDell,
running through holes the size of a bank vault in college made McF rich. he does not seem to have a knack for, nor desire to run through quickly closing holes the size of a safe deposit box in the NFL.
December 9th, 2009 at 1:21 pm
Dell
I can’t speak for Vegas but that fairly well represents my opinion. DMAC is no Adrian Petersen, Chris Johnson, LT, Sproles, etc., etc.,etc. Add Fargas and Bushto that list too. DMac is NOT an NFL caliber RB.
He could be good to great at the slot RB position IMO.
December 9th, 2009 at 1:23 pm
~~~~ Sounds Familiar? ~~~~
ide receiver Randy Moss and three linebackers are not at the New England Patriots practice.
Coach Bill Belichick declined to comment on their absence. According to the Providence Journal’s Web site, Moss and linebackers Adalius Thomas, Gary Guyton and Derrick Burgess showed up late to an 8 a.m. team meeting and were sent home.
December 9th, 2009 at 1:23 pm
The hole McFadden had to run through were the size of the keyhole in the safe deposit box.
December 9th, 2009 at 1:26 pm
Vegas
His first year was the turf toe, a very painful injury.
This year had surgery on the knee.
DMAC was drafted in 2008. The Raiders have played since they drafted him 28 games. He has missed or been injured in all but 15.
I won’t be like others in here and demand you prove your point that “the good ones are great immediately 9 of 10 times.
My question is not that he can’t run between the tackles, is when has he had a opportunity to run the ball more than 5-10 times a game. Remember he has been healthy for only 15 games.
His results are not typical of a healthy RB, yet has he really had a opportunity to show case his skill.
December 9th, 2009 at 1:26 pm
It’s not the production with Darren that is so bad, it is the “eye-test”.
When you watch him, he looks terrible sometimes. Never really get any “flashes”.
Look at Mendenhall, a first round pick from the same draft as Darren. That guy was a beast, phsyical violent runner, who definately looked like a 1st rounder.
December 9th, 2009 at 1:26 pm
Quit making excuses for DMac. He’s NOT who many thought he was. He can be noteworthy in the right position. Anybody remember a FB named Todd Christensen who was converted to a receiving position. The rest is Raider history.
December 9th, 2009 at 1:26 pm
I think he hits the hole 2 fast in many cases…they havnt materialized yet…still havnt had a cohesive O-line all year…Give Dmac till the end of next year…we are just finding it
December 9th, 2009 at 1:27 pm
If DMac wants to see more time in the backfield, he needs to become a competent Pass Blocking/Blitz p/up guy…the coaches need to work him on the edges when he does get in also…
December 9th, 2009 at 1:28 pm
Raider Dell Says:
December 9th, 2009 at 1:26 pm
My question is not that he can’t run between the tackles, is when has he had a opportunity to run the ball more than 5-10 times a game.
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He had 9 carries on Sunday. 28 yards. We could have gave him Bush’s one carry, but why would we give him some of Fargas’s carries? Justin simply produces more, at least right now in the present.
December 9th, 2009 at 1:29 pm
What about running Dmac a draw/trap/delayed handoff a few times to let the pass rush get upfield and maybe give him the element of surprise to help spring him?
December 9th, 2009 at 1:29 pm
“Damn, you guys can be patient with DHB, but not with me? That’s BS! Utilize me correctly and see what happens. I’m the hidden Percy Harvin of the Raider Nation.”
December 9th, 2009 at 1:31 pm
We need to run more misdirection plays…and cowbell.
December 9th, 2009 at 1:31 pm
Personally I find it incredible that Crash Test Huggy is still upright and having an impact. The man must have been born concussed as the beatings he takes and dishes out each game and every carry of his imply some sort of neurological baseline wherein he remains normal and ambulatory. Amazing.
December 9th, 2009 at 1:32 pm
Van comments #20 and #22 are right on!
December 9th, 2009 at 1:35 pm
Don’t worry guys…McFadden will prove himself eventually…he is a hard worker (unlike Russell)…it just might take a new HC to get him involved in the offense.
December 9th, 2009 at 1:38 pm
I guess the immediate results matter more, when the team continues to lose and all fingers get pointed at our draft picks that haven’t produced.
December 9th, 2009 at 1:39 pm
Dakota,
Eternally hoping hopeful hope hopefully helps.
December 9th, 2009 at 1:39 pm
It’s simple if Darren wants more carries, break a frkn tackle every once in awhile and get 8 yards instead of 2.
More first downs equals more plays, equals more potential carries.
Gave the coach the reason to give you more carries. 3 yards per carry, when the other guy has 5 ypc isn’t going to get it done.
December 9th, 2009 at 1:40 pm
I think a true FB can help all 3 of our RB’s.
December 9th, 2009 at 1:41 pm
# vegas raider Says:
December 9th, 2009 at 1:39 pm
It’s simple if Darren wants more carries, break a frkn tackle every once in awhile and get 8 yards instead of 2.
More first downs equals more plays, equals more potential carries.
Gave the coach the reason to give you more carries. 3 yards per carry, when the other guy has 5 ypc isn’t going to get it done.
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This kind of says it all. It’s not personal, just professional.
December 9th, 2009 at 1:44 pm
Vegas,
excellently described in post #30 – plus the coach has to have confidence that DMc isn’t going to cough up the ball if he is given more attempts. too demoralizing.
December 9th, 2009 at 1:44 pm
What’s up with Nick Miler. I certainly liked what I saw i preseason. But, to be injured this long and still on the roster instead of IR is really out there. This guy must really be the 2nd coming. I just hope he gets here soon.
December 9th, 2009 at 1:46 pm
As I recall, Huggy Bear and the rest of the run game wasn’t doing schit, against 8 men in the box. Now that we have somewhat of a passing game it opens up the run. Give DMAC more touches dammit. Doesn’t need to be at the RB position, just find a way for him to get the ball in open space.
December 9th, 2009 at 1:49 pm
# DMAC Says:
December 9th, 2009 at 1:46 pm
As I recall, Huggy Bear and the rest of the run game wasn’t doing schit, against 8 men in the box. Now that we have somewhat of a passing game it opens up the run. Give DMAC more touches dammit. Doesn’t need to be at the RB position, just find a way for him to get the ball in open space.
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Seems totally reasonable. I especially support the last sentance.
December 9th, 2009 at 1:50 pm
DMAC
Great observation with comment #35.
December 9th, 2009 at 1:50 pm
Darren had ten “touches” this last game, if you include the razzle-dazzle play.
He will get another 10 or so this weekend. He needs to do something with them. The book isn’t closed on him yet.
I would use him like the Chargers do Sproles. KR, catching lots of screens and dumpoffs, and a few draws and handoffs.
December 9th, 2009 at 1:51 pm
McFadden put the ball on the ground against the Broncos…he hasn’t been given much of a chance since then.
Bush fumbled…suddenly he is on the bench.
I can’t say that I blame Cable…Cable feels like Fargas is more consistent right now and Cable knows his job is on the line, so he is riding his boy Fargas till the bitter end.
I don’t like it, but I understand why he is doing it.
December 9th, 2009 at 2:00 pm
LOL…..what a slap to the fat face of Cable! Way to go AL!
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Randy Hanson, the Raiders assistant who alleged that he was assaulted by head coach Tom Cable, is back working in Oakland’s scouting department, a source confirmed Wednesday.
December 9th, 2009 at 2:00 pm
Moss looks to be at his New England crossroads
Earlier this year, Mike Freeman of CBSSports.com stirred up a hornets’ nest by suggesting that Patriots receiver Randy Moss had reverted to his old “play when I wanna play” habits, which had undermined his time in Minnesota and characterized his two seasons in Oakland.
We sprinkled some jet fuel onto the fire by musing that Moss possibly sensed that special things would be happening this year in Minnesota, and that maybe he’d prefer to be back in purple with a clear front runner.
The talk of Moss dogging it disappeared fairly quickly, with Moss churning out highlights that conjured images of the things that a much skinnier version of Randy from Rand used to do.
But now the whispers are returning, thanks to the failure of Moss and three other teammates to show up for work on time today. Our old friend and colleague Tom Curran of Comcast Sports Net New England sums up the situation perfectly.
“It’s unfair to go so far as to say he’s reverted to not caring, but he is frustrated by the fact that he’s seeing more attention from defenses and, thus, less attention from Tom Brady,” Curran writes. “It’s been humbling for him to be shut down for three consecutive games and he’s edging closer to disengaging with each silent game. And his lack of attention to the detail of getting to the facility on time mirrors his lack of attention on Sundays. Build the world around Randy and he will happily sit on the throne you point him to. Tell him he’s got a supporting role and run the risk of him letting you down.”
December 9th, 2009 at 2:01 pm
Later fellas!
December 9th, 2009 at 2:06 pm
ATTENTION AL DAVIS
It looks like Lame is going down in flames at Hooterville U.
Celebrate by signing a big name nose tackle!!
December 9th, 2009 at 2:08 pm
Moss going down in flames?
Next presser Al will tell the world that is exactly why he directed kiffin to get rid of Moss.
December 9th, 2009 at 2:09 pm
And I thought he just stubbed his toe. Who stepped on his foot an elephant or JaBeefalo ?
“Wide receiver Darrius Heyward-Bey had his left foot encased in a walking boot Wednesday but was vague about his availaiblity for the game against the Redskins”
December 9th, 2009 at 2:10 pm
What idiots at Raider Beat. Wexler having unleashed a volley of angry responses to his announcement of a $9.99 monthly fee has removed all references and responses to his hairbrained scheme. Everyone told him to “F” off. lmfao
December 9th, 2009 at 2:15 pm
exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:
December 9th, 2009 at 2:10 pm
What idiots at Raider Beat. Wexler having unleashed a volley of angry responses to his announcement of a $9.99 monthly fee has removed all references and responses to his hairbrained scheme. Everyone told him to “F” off. lmfao
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exactly. what a joke. Raider beat …off more like…
December 9th, 2009 at 2:15 pm
Plunketthead Says:
December 9th, 2009 at 2:06 pm
ATTENTION AL DAVIS
It looks like Lame is going down in flames at Hooterville U.
Celebrate by signing a big name nose tackle
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SUH!!!
December 9th, 2009 at 2:16 pm
when coaches, players,analysts, writers, ( I could go on) say that DMAC is not THE back, what will it take for the rest of you baffoons to see the light? Because honestly Idon’t know what dude you are watching. Are you more educated in football than they are?
DMAC gets the handoff, runs into the line 1 yrd gain. DMAC gets the handoff, runs into the line 0 yrd gain. DMAC gets the handoff, runs into the line 1 yrd gain. DMAC gets the handoff, runs into the line 1 yrd gain.DMAC gets the handoff, runs into the line 1 yrd gain.
Get the point? I wanted this guy to succeed just as much as any other Raider fan. But he is not what we thought he was. Slams podium and walks off stage left. Sell your jerseys.
December 9th, 2009 at 2:19 pm
Plunketthead: (hilarious name btw!)
NE provided the only thing that could ever keep Randy Moss happy. NEVER LOSING.
Once that starts to happen you see his true colors begin shining thru.
Glad most people figured out just because he was huge in NE, didn’t mean he EVER would’ve produced for us.
December 9th, 2009 at 2:20 pm
morilla Says:
December 9th, 2009 at 2:16 pm
when coaches, players,analysts, writers, ( I could go on)
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please go on…and please give us links or names to these players and coaches that say these things…we would love to read them.
December 9th, 2009 at 2:21 pm
Morrila: I think DMC is one of the assets illused by Oaklands coaches.
Get this f’in guy in space and on the edge where his greatest asset, SPEED is best served!
Bash Bush and Farg up the middle, split DMC out wide or at flanker or in the Wild hog.
Mis use imo.
December 9th, 2009 at 2:25 pm
Nnamdi21
hell yes!!!
December 9th, 2009 at 2:27 pm
oh man, what are we gonna do???
use Fargas as our between the tackles specialist???
use McTiptoes as our end around specialist???
use Bush as our what??? he’s the guy with the 4.5 ypc average…
use Heyward-bey as our reverse specialist???
use Russell as our throw it out of the end-zone specialist???
i say running backs should be able to be a running back…
i say receivers should be able to catch the ball…
and i say quarterbacks should know the playbook and show up on time… ready to play…
December 9th, 2009 at 2:28 pm
Nnamdi
I hope things go from bad to worse for Moss and the cheating pats.
Moss is a cancer in the locker room and I hope it enfetc the whole team
December 9th, 2009 at 2:29 pm
infect, affect, effect
I dont know what that was suppose to be
December 9th, 2009 at 2:31 pm
I am just very excited about winning the game this weekend. I really want to end the season on a high note so Raier nation can have an off season filled with high hopes.
December 9th, 2009 at 2:33 pm
I wandered though a Raider Image store today. Not a single GRADKOWSKI jersey for sale. must be a conspiracy of the highest order, ya think?
December 9th, 2009 at 2:37 pm
“When Hanson was busy making his accusations, he told Michael Silver of Yahoo! Sports how much he still loved the team.
“I watch every game,” Hanson said. “I want them to win. Once a Raider, always a Raider.”
Wow, that guy knows how to sweet talk Al…sorry Cable, but apparently you are losing the brown-nose contest…doesn’t bode well for you in 2010.
December 9th, 2009 at 2:38 pm
Wow,
The Dmac apologists are in full effect. Gosh, when have you ever seen a RB in this league that is successful that does not have CALVES. The guy is a WR in disguise as an RB. Sorry but Fargas looked pretty good behind that sorry line. bush has even busted out some big runs behind that sorry line too.
Plunket,
Washington is a huge game for us. We’ve got a perfect set up for Was and Browns. If you ever want to build momentum, this is it. I feel good though since Jadumbo is not the starting QB.
December 9th, 2009 at 2:39 pm
Why make excuses? DMac is a bust. he is not a traditiona RB like AP or Chris Johnson. He is not a scat back like Sproles, R Bush or Ray Rice. He is something in between that does not produce at NFL level. His yards/att is lower than Bush and Fargas…why the hell make excuses for a millionare?
December 9th, 2009 at 2:44 pm
Yeah, yeah. . . .I know – here I go again with my Fargas kick. . . . . .
But I just gotta say fellas: When is this man gonna get some love from Raider Nation?
Without feeling the need to bash our other 2 young backs, is anyone ready to admit they were wrong about Fargas at the beginning of this season?
Unless you’ve been watching some other team named the Oakland Raiders, it’s been pretty visible to even the most casual football fan, that Justin Fargas is the best running back on this roster.
You absolutely cannot deny that at this point.
He is not as fast as D-Mac (on paper).
He is not as strong as Bush (on paper).
But guess what?
In the real world. . . . .on the actual football field. . . . .Fargas has been faster and more powerful than the two youngsters combined. Forget about the fact that his numbers have been better. I don’t care about numbers.
The main fact is that he is simply punishing defenders and grinding out the yards that we need. . . . .and sometimes in big chunks. It’s clear defenders hate to tackle him.
I think D-mac will be a GREAT player and I think the same of Michael Bush.
But right now. . . .and has really been the case for years, Fargas is the Raiders’ best back. It was the case when Lamont (soft) Jordan was a starter and it’s the case now.
And if he actually got 20-25 carries a game, he’d easily have a 1200 yard season. I really can’t say that about the other 2 cats (sorry Priesttj – I know you really like M. Bush and sorry Dakota – I know you really like D-Mac)
If you can’t get yourself to admit that what I’m saying is true, then you’re really just hanging on to your desire that the other 2 guys would have outplayed him by now.
Sorry, but they have not.
December 9th, 2009 at 2:47 pm
Aig
The Skins are a little scary. They are playing better then their record imo.
December 9th, 2009 at 2:48 pm
Wow –
That Tom Cable is such a horrible coach huh?
We finally got some real QB play and receivers actually caught balls thrown to them.
What a concept.
But yeah, let’s just keep hiring and firing coaches.
That’s really gonna get us far.
December 9th, 2009 at 2:49 pm
Congrats, to “The Polish Pop Gun” on getting some recognition for his performance on Sunday.
I think Hanson must have some pics/footage of Al wearing ladies underwear.
Bummer about Gallery. Back issues can be a bear. I know, been there, done that…
December 9th, 2009 at 2:49 pm
new post
December 9th, 2009 at 2:51 pm
Broncos W 27-17
Cowboys L 6-7
Eagles L 24-27
Saints L 30-33
Thats there last four games.
December 10th, 2009 at 5:28 am
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