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So much for DHB vs. Hall

By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Friday, December 11th, 2009 at 10:37 am in Oakland Raiders.

Looks like the matchup between the receiver who can’t get open and the cornerback who can’t cover anyone won’t come to pass.

Washington cornerback DeAngelo Hall, whose eight-game tenure in Oakland was typified by giving up huge cushions and lot of completions, has already been ruled out of Sunday’s game against the Raiders at the Coliseum because of a knee injury, Washington coach Jim Zorn told reporters.

Meanwhile, Darrius Heyward-Bey, who had nine catches for 124 yards despite being targeted 40 times in 11 starts, was not present as practice began, a strong indication he won’t play against the Redskins because of a foot strain.

Notably, Washington has also ruled out defensive tackle Albert Haynesworth (ankle) due to an ankle injury, further weakening the NFL’s 24th-ranked run defense, as well as fullback Mike Sellers (thigh bruise).

Raiders defensive end Greg Ellis had his helmet and was talking with fellow defensive linemen as practice began, although he’s done that before and not participated.

More to come later . . .

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115 Responses to “So much for DHB vs. Hall”

  1. DMAC Says:

    Yeah buddy!

  2. DMAC Says:

    No Albert! Let’s go Huggy Bear!

  3. ENGLANDRAIDER Says:

    Jerry: Nice first sentence, sardonic wit dripping all over the place.

  4. EndZoner Says:

    Let’s see if our #29 can man-up and be a force in the running game or is he still getting beaten out by a banged-up fargas…

  5. Raider75 Says:

    Russell & DHB continue to ride the pine.

    That gives the Raiders a decent shot at the win.

    2 more wins keeps us out of the 10 loss column.

    That’s a start.

  6. DMAC Says:

    Let’s make sure to keep an oxygen tank next to Bush on the bench.

  7. Ghost to the Post Says:

    Right on Raider75. I agree with you. I am not a hater. I just think both of them need some time on the pine to see what it’s all about in the game.

  8. Ghost to the Post Says:

    But, I think we need 3 wins.

  9. FYI about the Redskins on Sunday - Oakland Raiders Forum | Message Board - Where the Raider Nation lives! Says:

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  10. wishbone Says:

    No Portis, No Haynesworth, No Sellers, No Hall. No way Raiders don’t win. Ooooops unless JaMonkie play.

  11. RaiderD Says:

    Gradkowski did get DHB his first TD, who knows if DHB keeps playin maybe he will improve with Grad at the helm.

  12. RaiderRockstar Says:

    we thought we could run all over the Jets too when Kris Jenkins was out, remember?

    I do. 38-0

    and I think Fred Smoot will be filling in for D Hall, right? Grads should go 3 WR and hit whoever Rogers & Smoot aren’t covering!

    Higgins, Schilens & Murphy. somebody will be open!

  13. Ghost to the Post Says:

    I think football is contagious in that way. If you see a player playing up it causes everyone else to play up. Like our defense now knows that they have a chance to get a rest on the sideline. Instead of 3 and out.

  14. DMAC Says:

    DMAC in the slot pleeaaassee!!!
    Our hidden Percy Harvin of the Raider Nation!

  15. 4evaRaider Says:

    Wassup ENGLANDRAIDER!!!!

  16. DMAC Says:

    Why Morris at LG? Walker played decent in Pittsburg and had the whole week to prepare himself.

  17. raidertay Says:

    That was a crazy interview by Jamarcus. Does anyone know the salary cap ramifications if the Raiders were to cut him. I cant see them paying him $10m next year to hold a clipboard. Especially possibly trying to resign Kirk, THoward, Seymore and Gradowski.

  18. DMAC Says:

    I love reading news from Foxborough like this…………
    http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news;_ylt=AjWZDdeBKHPkID7ataVQyZc5nYcB?slug=ap-patriots-upsetthomas&prov=ap&type=lgns

  19. MTraidernation Says:

    well, since they have a lot of players hurt AND we’re a better team, we will no doubt lose this one. then we’ll inexplicably beat denver in denver, lose to the browns, and fade against the ravens. mark it, dude. 5-11.

    until this team proves they can put back-to-back good games together, i will never bet on them. for some reason, however, i continue to love them. what an unhealthy relationship.

  20. raidertay Says:

    JaMonkie??? Cmon Wishbone, thats borderline racist. Im not a fan of him either but lets not go overboard

  21. Ghost to the Post Says:

    It didn’t sound like Walker wanted to learn a new position. IMO. He sounded like he wanted to play the Tackle postions only.

  22. DMAC Says:

    Too bad. Because I think he would of fit great at the RG position.

  23. Kirk Says:

    Convert Jamarcus to fullback or right guard.

    He might be able to block.

  24. 4evaRaider Says:

    As long as Grads is driving there will be no let-down on offense,imo

  25. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Walker isn’t quick enough to play guard, is he?

    in the zbs there is constant cutting and he has to stay low at all times. no doubt he’s strong enough and smart enough, but he’d have to drop some serious weight to even compete imo. only reason he was at LG in the last game is because we needed Morris at Center with Satele injured. it was a desperation move. thats why we’re bringing that guard up from the practice squad instead of filling Gallery’s roster spot with somebody at a different position

  26. DMAC Says:

    Do you guys remember what the run game looked like when Gallery was out? I rather take my chances on a slow Walker, than Morris at LG.

  27. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Kirk, offensive lineman have to put the work in. JaMarcus isn’t willing to do that. He’d fail at any position, because he’s not motivated or driven. he’s content collecting a paycheck and cheering on the sideline while Graddy leads this team to victory.

    he says he will work his butt off in the offseason, but will he? what was his excuse the past 3 offseasons?

  28. 4evaRaider Says:

    L.Walker is a T….I havent seen to many 365 pound pullng gaurds.He was pressed into LG in an emergency,imo.Depends on Satele this week,if he can go Morris will be LG

  29. RaiderRockstar Says:

    DMAC: the run game hasn’t been very good all season, with or without Gallery!

  30. Chris in NY Says:

    I’m telling you I smell I first blowout win of the season. Not that we’re so much better than the ‘Skins who have played decent in recent weeks. But …

    - Wash is coming off a disheartening loss to the Saints. And hard-fought losses to the division rivals Cowboys and Eagles before that. Can you say “letdown game”.
    - They’re flying cross country to play what some would call a meaningless game.
    - They have a lame-duck coach with just 4 games left in the season.
    - No Haynesworth.
    - No Clinton Portis.

    Meanwhile,
    - The Raiders are coming off one of their best wins in awhile.
    - They’re 2-1 against 3 good teams since Bruce Almighty took over.
    - They have a QB they believe in.
    - While Zorn is gone, Cable is still fighting for his job.
    - They’re at home and the home crowd should have their back after the Pitt win last week and the last time they played at home was the win over Cinci.

    I’m feeling a 27-10 type game and a Raider Nation bumrush to the Bruce Almighty bandwagon.

  31. DMAC Says:

    Check the stats w/ Gallery in the lineup.

  32. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Gradkowski sucks.

  33. RaiderRockstar Says:

    back to work now. later gents!

  34. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    No team with Bruce Gradkwoski starting as QB is blowing anyone out, Chris. How long have you watched this game?

  35. DMAC Says:

    With Gallery out it will definetly affect the run game, but it still should be better since opposing teams need to somewhat respect the passing game now. No more 8 men in the box= improved run game

  36. Ghost to the Post Says:

    Morris got a game ball last week. And I expect him to get a game ball this week. He is a gamer.

  37. Raider O Says:

    England,

    All is well my brother. I have been too busy with school, but it’s almost over.
    We have RAIN in San Diego!!!! RAIN!!!

  38. aig Says:

    Damn Mr. You still hating on Gradkowski huh. If he wins this weekend, will you promise to buy his jersey like you did for JR? Just messin with you man.

    Chris in NY,
    count me in on that bandwagon blowout….we dont have JR forgetting to audible on the first play this weekend like he did against the Jets so I’m with you bro.

  39. aig Says:

    Ghost,

    IMO, Morris has been our mvp this year on the OLine. I would say Henderson too but Morris had to fill in diff spots and held his end of the bargain.

  40. Chris in NY Says:

    Madden,
    We blew out the Broncos in Denver last year with JaBroney at QB. And we blew out the Dolphins two years ago with Culpepper at QB. Since Bruce is way better than both those guys, yeah, I think it can happen.

    How about this: if the Raiders beat the Redskins by 2 TDs or more, you go out and get Bruce Gradkowski’s face tattooed on your lower back.

  41. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    What if Gradowski wins this week….you’re hilarious, AIG.

    Bruce hasn’t proven jack. Steelers suck this year, that’s been established. Any team that loses to Oakland and Cleveland back to back…

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  43. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    I’ll be in here win or lose after the game. You guys will not be here if we lose. You’ll hide, for at least 3 days. That we know.

  44. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Only Raider fans get excited about quarterbacks like Gradkowski. Newest savior/soon to be scapegoat. I’m just way ahead of you guys. Bruce Gradkowski = Donald Hollis.

  45. new englandraider Says:

    donald hollas. lmfao. was there a worse qb than him.?

  46. new englandraider Says:

    hollas sucked. gruden used to flip out on that guy constantly. he was awful

  47. Ghost to the Post Says:

    I agree about Morris he is a team player. We could use a lot more of those type of players on the field and the roster.

  48. DMAC Says:

    Wade Wilson…Jay Schreodoer

  49. DMAC Says:

    Ric Mirer

  50. Ghost to the Post Says:

    IT’s lunch time in Cali in fifteen. I’m out. I gave my tickets to a family who has never been this week. I hope they win for them. They are good people and deserve a good win. Go Raiders… BRUCE! We need to work on that.

  51. Raider O Says:

    So you all think Bruce is the next Rich Gannon!
    This is JR’s team, and he is our future like VY at Tenn. He needs to learn, and grow up. Then he can be a good NFL QB.

    JR is the Future, and so is DMC. They have talent, but they need to develop as people and as players.

  52. aig Says:

    Mr.

    If you havent noticed, we have a hard time winning period…against good or bad team.

    I knew people would come on here using the Steelers sucks excuse. We suck and have been for a long time.

    I just am happy to see we got a win. I dont care how we got it. However, I am optimistic since we have Grad back there rather than Jr. I know you love JR and I also know it pains you to see that Grad has already outperformed him by Raider QB standard.

  53. new englandraider Says:

    man we’ve had some of the worst qb’s ever. jruss, tood HEROINovich, jeff george, rick mirer rob johnson, hollas, mccown, tui, kerrence collins, wilson, i can go on and on. i was born in 1980 and aside from gannon i’ve yet to see a decent qb. too young to remember plunkett

  54. Plunketthead Says:

    ATTENTION JERRY

    Its friday, I got paid and I am full of piss of vineger.

    So I want to hand out props to you.
    Your blogs have been great
    You are taking on the tough questions on Tuesday chat
    post to fast and other blips have been cleaned up

    Two ata boys and a prop on the back for you
    Best wishes to you and yours over the holidays

    You have come a long ways in the fast 4 years

  55. new englandraider Says:

    bring back rodney peete

  56. M Lonetree Says:

    MR,

    post 32 is hilarious. “Gradkowski sucks.”

    don’t know about that but your commentaries certainly do (strike one)
    can’t complain about the old man only loving rocket-armed QBs so you write the lamest post in all of blogdom (strike two)
    digging deep to found your hatreds at all costs (strike three)
    yer out.

  57. Raider O Says:

    I’m not sold on DHB!

  58. new englandraider Says:

    honorable mention. culpepper billy jo hobert. vince evans, aaron brooks and andrew walter

  59. DMAC Says:

    bring back Vince Evans

  60. new englandraider Says:

    we had andre ware at one point. no?

  61. DMAC Says:

    Loved the vertical game.

  62. 4evaRaider Says:

    Ghost…..

    THAT IS A GREAT THING YOU DID BROTHER….AND JUST THINK HOW MUCH YOUR FRIENDS WOULD ENJOY A VICTORY!!!!!

    WOOOOOOOOOW THEIR 1ST TIME WAY 2 GO BRO

  63. new englandraider Says:

    dmac, u gonna do anything this week?

  64. M Lonetree Says:

    But aside from that, can we see what the next quarter of the season brings for Gradkowski the Bruce (torn knee? broken clavicle? failure?) before signing him to a Derek Anderson contract.

  65. new englandraider Says:

    9 carries for 28 yrd just aint getting it done bro

  66. DMAC Says:

    I’ll be there this Sunday. Hopefully it deosn’t rain. It’s been cold as hell in the bay.

  67. new englandraider Says:

    damn cold here in massachusetts. 28 2day and windy

  68. DMAC Says:

    Yeah, put me in the slot. Run some pitches. Utilize my strengths and get me in the open field.

  69. 4evaRaider Says:

    This web-site is full of WONDERFULL AND CARING PEOPLE,imo….Tis definitely the Season!!!!

  70. new englandraider Says:

    dmac, im going out on a limb, but i see 50 yrds rushing and at least 25 yrds receiving 4 u this week. breakout game perhaps??????????

  71. new englandraider Says:

    i thought i was funny by saying the hash marks trip him up. but whoever said its the blades of grass that get him……. lmfaooooooooooooooooo. that was great

  72. DMAC Says:

    Yeah, that was a good one.

  73. Plunketthead Says:

    POST OF THE DAY

    I was worried about how good the skins have been playing against good teams but the OAKLAND FRIGGING RAIDERS
    have been kicking butt and taking names

    Chris in NY Says:
    December 11th, 2009 at 11:21 am
    I’m telling you I smell I first blowout win of the season. Not that we’re so much better than the ‘Skins who have played decent in recent weeks. But …

    - Wash is coming off a disheartening loss to the Saints. And hard-fought losses to the division rivals Cowboys and Eagles before that. Can you say “letdown game”.
    - They’re flying cross country to play what some would call a meaningless game.
    - They have a lame-duck coach with just 4 games left in the season.
    - No Haynesworth.
    - No Clinton Portis.

    Meanwhile,
    - The Raiders are coming off one of their best wins in awhile.
    - They’re 2-1 against 3 good teams since Bruce Almighty took over.
    - They have a QB they believe in.
    - While Zorn is gone, Cable is still fighting for his job.
    - They’re at home and the home crowd should have their back after the Pitt win last week and the last time they played at home was the win over Cinci.

    I’m feeling a 27-10 type game and a Raider Nation bumrush to the Bruce Almighty bandwagon.

  74. DMAC Says:

    HAY!!!!!!!!

  75. 4evaRaider Says:

    lmao!!!!

  76. new englandraider Says:

    maybe nomar fukudome bush. i dunno

  77. Plunketthead Says:

    Can Al work some old time magic and get two years out of Adalius Thomas?

    I bet he can and I bet he can Bills pocket again.

  78. Raider O Says:

    LMAO @ posts 75 & 76!!

  79. Plunketthead Says:

    can PICK Bills pocket again

  80. Plunketthead Says:

    Never mind

  81. Raider O Says:

    Plunk,

    I think I understand. lol

  82. aig Says:

    Plunket,

    I was thinking the same thing when I read the Pft on A. Thomas. You know he wants to get the fck out of there. Al loves reclamation project. I am sure NE thought A. thomas is a bust freeagent anyways.

  83. DMAC Says:

    Plunk, WTF are you talking about!!!!

    Just fk’n with u. lmao

  84. new englandraider Says:

    me 2 raider o me 2

  85. DMAC Says:

    Would you guys give up a 2nd rounder for him?

  86. new englandraider Says:

    Thomas was a beast in balti. here in ne not all that. maybe one of our 3rd rd picks. we have 2 right?

  87. Plunketthead Says:

    lol I have the HL and I pulled a muscle in my back, went to doc, got some muscle relaxers, went to safeway and stocked up, got a fire burning and I dont have to leave untill monday morning

    Man I hope the Raiders kick butt and look great doing it. I want to go into the offseason hyped up.
    I want JR to work his butt off and come back looking lean and mean
    I want DHB to prove himself next year,
    I want DMAC to start kicking butt
    I want Cable to winout this year and KICK BUTT next year

    Thats my Christmas list

  88. new englandraider Says:

    dakota i hope u dont take offense to the names. its just for humor purposes only. u know youda man. go lakers bro

  89. Raider O Says:

    How about Adolf Bush Reagan?

  90. aig Says:

    no not a 2nd. He will not get a 2nd in the league. I think a 3rd or 4th round at best. Most likely NE may even cut him (i dont know the contract) cuz I think he has been there 3 eyars already. Ususally they dont pay you your 4th and 5th year. They ask for a redo if they want to keep you. He’s 32 years old so I expect a similar ellis signing.

  91. DMAC Says:

    I’m all for a few more proven vets on the team.

  92. Plunketthead Says:

    Aig

    And Bll and Al have a working relationship that Al does not have with any other team and Al is good at picking Bills pocket (I got it right that time) : )

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  94. new englandraider Says:

    yeah al certainly picked his pocket when we got a 4th rd pick for moss

  95. Plunketthead Says:

    DMAC

    Not this year but I bet Al can figure out a trade that helps us.

  96. new englandraider Says:

    johndavid bowie. woulda been better off with david bowie

  97. 4evaRaider Says:

    As long as their not WR’s lol

  98. DMAC Says:

    I still think we nee that bruising MLB to help stuff the run. Let’s make a deal for Urlacher.

  99. Plunketthead Says:

    Whats the word the players yelled at Cable when he boxed Hansens ears?

    KUMBYA?

  100. DMAC Says:

    Hey did that match between florida pete and captain ever take place????????????????

  101. new englandraider Says:

    capt jack will get u high at night

  102. Plunketthead Says:

    I have not named Dakotas kid but if I did I would just got it over with at a young age and name him
    Dickhead Dakota

    Dak is good at letting me throw darts now and then and thats a dart

    But inside my heart Dak knows that I wish Dak and company a healthy boy that lives long and prospers

  103. Plunketthead Says:

    Basement is warmed up. I am gonna shave and shower and hope I dont cut myself

  104. DMAC Says:

    What type of NFL back you guys think Gerhart will be?

  105. DMAC Says:

    Later fellas. Gotta go. Hope everyone has a good warm weekend!

  106. aig Says:

    Man, I am just glad Moss aint never going to win any SB. In my life, I have seen a lot of guys like him with that attitude. I can’t stand guys like that. You can never build a team with those guys.

    Here’s to hoping Al gets another one from Bill.

  107. new englandraider Says:

    LATER FELLAS

  108. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Post of the day:

    “Gradkowski sucks”.

  109. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    plunkethead likes to shave his pubes into a V shape. His partner likes it that way.

  110. Plunketthead Says:

    POST OF THE CENTURY

    MR SUCKS

  111. M Lonetree Says:

    Raider to do list for Sunday :

    limit big plays on special teams and on defense (’skins not good enough to sustain long drives)
    pound the rock to control the clock (take pressure off of Grads to have to be a miracle worker)

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  113. chucka1122 Says:

    Hopefully the foot sprain DHB has will keep him out of the next couple of seasons…

  114. Vinous Says:

    “Darrius Heyward-Bey, who had nine catches for 124 yards despite being targeted 40 times in 11 starts”

    Targeted is the key word

    Not to excuse his drops

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