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Frye could get the nod

Reading (or listening) between the lines Monday, it’s hard to come away with the impression that coach Tom Cable wants to go into the last three games of the season with JaMarcus Russell at quartertback.

Give him credit for not offering up a company line and insisting there’s been some grand change in Russell in the three games since he lost the starting job to Bruce Gradkowski.

Cable could have said:

“We really feel good about having JaMarcus back in the lineup. He’s gone above and beyond the call of duty in terms of preparation, appears to be taking his job more seriously and is turning it loose at quarterback. He played very well at Denver last season and we expect him to do so again.”

Instead, Cable said this:

“I think certainly I’m going to look at what the options are and again as I told you before I’ll do what’s best for this team, what gives us the best chance to win. Right now, it’s to figure out where Bruce is at here in the next 24-48 hours and then make that decision.”

Reality check: Gradkowski is a quarterback who thrives through mobility and has one torn MCL and one partially torn MCL. He’s not playing against Denver.

And this:

“You know after looking at it on film, I see some things that are the same. I think that there’s a couple things he did that were good. Again, I’ll look at all that here in the next 24 hours because if we’re heading towards a decision at the quarterback spot, then I pretty much do diligence in all those things and I’ll sit down and look through everything again.”

You wonder where Al Davis comes out on all this. At one point, he liked Frye enough to have him up to the office for a talk when he came for a visit early in free agency (although Frye didn’t sign until much later).

But Davis certainly wants Russell to begin achieving his potential, and there are three valuable lessons to be had.

Those three “lessons” could be the last games of Cable’s Raiders head coaching career if they go down without a fight.

Frankly, the Raiders didn’t put up much of one Sunday after Gradkowski went out of the game. Russell got almost no protection, and if you were to put Russell-Frye to a secret ballot as to which quarterback gives the better chance to win, the Raiders’ actions on the field against the Redskins suggest it would be Frye in a landslide.

Russell didn’t talk with reporters after the game, although Comcast SportsNet Bay Area managed to get a couple of minutes while Cable was addressing the press and before the quarterback made a hasty retreat.

“It’s kind of different coming in, and not starting,” Russell said. “Best thing to do is just let the game come to you, don’t force anything. Couldn’t get too much going. That’s basically it. Nothing else to be said, just couldn’t get nothing going.”

Asked if about his protection and the six second-half sacks, Russell said, “I don’t know, but I say everything is my fault, so I’ll put it on me, maybe. I could’ve stepped up a different way to protect those guys, but that’s what happened.”

Cable didn’t deny there seemed to be the entire team seemed to sag once Russell got in the game _ whether it was Russell’s fault or not.

“Potentially I guess there was,” Cable said. “I really didn’t feel that because you’re so into what you’re doing and all that. When you look at it on film, we look like a different team but to put that on them that way, I don’t want to do that. We’ve got to step up and all play better. That’s really the bottom line here.”

More Monday news and notes:

– Zach Miller walked past in an off-limits area of the Raiders facility, carrying a folder which had diagrams of the human brain on the outside. In his postgame press briefing, Cable said Miller had a stinger. He said Monday it was a concussion.

Miller also had a concussion on Oct. 4 against Houston.

“We’ll be as cautious as we have to be, and what I mean is we’ll protect the athlete and do all the testing and due diligence in terms of his return,” Cable said.

Cable said he thinks the league will take a close look at the hit by Rocky McIntosh without the Raiders having to send in the film as evidence. And he was pleased to see safety Mike Mitchell and cornerback Louis Murphy take exception to Fred Smoot’s celebration near the fallen Miller.

– Could be another week without rookie first-round pick Darrius Heyward-Bey at wide receiver. The improvement in his foot sprain has been “minimal” and Cable said he was day-to-day.

– Safety Michael Huff is day-to-day with a stringer and hopes to make it through the season.

“I first did it in Dallas, and then I reinjured it in Pittsburgh. I finished the Pittsburgh game, I finished the Dallas game, so I can play with it,” Huff said. “I just have to make it through these last three.”

– Wide receiver/return specialist Nick Miller will run on a machine this week and hopefully will soon graduate to grass. Is it possible Miller will make his debut in the Raiders season finale against Baltimore?

– The Redskins got to Raiders quarterbacks, and Russell in particular, with a Cover 1 defense in which any player that had a responisiblity to cover a back or tight end immediately became a pass rusher if those players were held in to block.

“Every pass play they can extra guy on you,” Cable said. “So it’s a matter of getting it out of your hand out there.”

– Defensive end Greg Ellis played well in Cable’s estimation and the hope is he can make it through the next three games. Ellis said afterward he has not thoughts of retiring and is committed to keeping his promise to Cable and Davis to help get the Raiders turned around.

Defensive end Richard Seymour, in the final year of his contract and potentially locked up with a franchise tag, said being with the Raiders if and when they become a good team would be gratifying, but noted, “Obviously that’s the business side of the game. As we all know, I thought I was going to be in New England last year and six days before the season I’m here in Oakland. You never know what happens so I’ll just let those chips fall where they may.”

– Cable shrugged off a pass interference call against Stanford Routt (Santana Moss fell and Routt tripped over him _ not exactly the textbook definition of a PI) as part of the game. Cornerback Chris Johnson said he understands the game is not set up for cornerbacks to succeed.

“If they’re going to call it like that, it may as well be touch football,” Johnson said.

Johnson laughed when asked if defensive assistant and Raiders Hall of Famer Willie Brown talked about playing cornerback in the true bump-and-run days of the American football League.

“He said he would like just get up and choke them,” Johnson said. “I’m like, ‘You can’t do that no more. You do that you’ll surely get flagged.’ We try to play the rules of this game. He tries to get us to do what he did back then. I said, ‘Nah, that ain’t going to work.’ ”

– A welcome sight _ Darren McFadden getting 74 yards on two snaps on the ball, one on a slant, the other on a slant-and-go, both against former SEC nemesis LaRon Landry (LSU).

“Just felt great to get out there and at least rip off a big play, whether it was running the ball or receiving, it just felt good get that in and get out there, move the ball around to me a little bit, felt good to move around out there,” McFadden said.

– McFadden and Justin Fargas both said Michael Bush, who never saw the field on offense has been accepting his reduced time like a professional.

Bush chatted amicably with reporters Monday about college basketball, but politely declined to discuss his current role with the Raiders.

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  • VanHeathen

    The JaMarcus trifecta:
    1) Interception
    2)Fumble for score
    3)Getting your recievers killed w/ poor pass
    4) Bonus a handful of sacks
    He’s paying off for every Defense he plays.
    Hell, it only took him 1 half to get there last week…PATHETIC

  • The Big Banana

    I think it says a lot that the play of Grads has gotten some of us to look into the future and talk about draft picks again. It was feeling pretty darn hopeless with JaDumbbell for a while there.

    Build the O-line. Murphy is already a play-maker. Get Schilens completely healthy. And hopefully, HOPEFULLY, DHB will amount to something. Who knows though. And I really hope we keep Bush and we either get a coach that realizes he’s the best all-around back we have or Cable finally pulls him out of his doghouse.

  • LA to TheBay

    Becker, was it ‘bastard’?

  • Chris in NY

    Jhill,

    I agree. O-line is top priority … after signing Bruce to a multi-year deal.

    Dez Bryant would tempt me with our No. 1 pick becuase I think he’s going to be an elite playmaker. But I realize that we have a ton of young WRs we’re already trying to develop, so it’s unlikely. In that case I’m looking at OT or DT because there are some really good DTs at the top of this draft. Bryant aside, here are the guys I’d look at:

    - Russell Okung, OT, Oklahoma State
    - Trent Williams, OT, Oklahoma
    - Gerald McCoy, DT, Oklahoma

    Ndamukong Suh is not going to be available when we pick. That’s why I didn’t list him.

    If I’m pulling the trigger on the pick though I take Dez Bryant and focus on the lines through the rest of the draft and in free agency.

  • Charlie

    Vegas

    Even if you do not think performance on the line is an issue, age alone should make you realize we have HUGE line problems.

    Carlisle and Green are on the wrong side of 30. Gallery’s career may be over.

    Ellis may retire. Seymour is 30. Warren is 31.

    We have neglected the lines for the past nine years and it has killed this franchise.

    As I have said before UPSHAW, SHELL, DALBY,MARVIN,LAWRENCE made guys like Van Eeghan, Hubbard, Plunkett,Stabler and Banazak.
    NOT THE OTHER WAY AROUND.

  • CaptainBlack

    Banana, Bush does not appear to want to play in Oakland. He is bidding his time for a new team and big contract.

  • http://blstb.msn.com/i/55/90A2853B6CFBCC2AFC987BB18B832.jpg vegas raider

    All right fella’s I got to get to work. Nice lively, intelligent convo, been fun!!!

    I’m sure we will drive each other crazy come Feb and March, before the draft.

    Cheers

  • http://media-2.web.britannica.com/eb-media/63/60563-004-52A399D4.jpg Dakota

    Okung is my favorite as of right now….

    DRAFT OKUNG!!!!!!

  • http://media-2.web.britannica.com/eb-media/63/60563-004-52A399D4.jpg Dakota

    Wait, DRAFT CODY!

    DRAFT SPIKES!

    DRAFT THAT OTHER LB THAT I CAN’T REMEMBER THE NAME OF RIGHT NOW!!!!

    I wish we could draft them all.

  • 4evaRaider

    This has 2B the most telling thing of all.

    When #2 was at the helm opposing defense’ were jamming the line with players.And our RB’s couldnt pick up more than a yard or 2 mostly.Fact

    Gradkowski comes in and HOLY SMOKES!!!! Everybodys favorite RB in the whole world,Fargas is getting 10 yards on 1st down pitches.Fact

    IMHO….this is pretty easy =)

  • LA to TheBay

    So if it was none of those, Becker, it means there was no trigger word like ‘shoes’ or some such ridiculous thing.

    You just have a problem with the image of a deranged John Herrera breaking Grad’s kneecaps and a drunk Jon Gruden in tears because Al hired a bus boy over him, huh?

    Punk.

  • http://blstb.msn.com/i/55/90A2853B6CFBCC2AFC987BB18B832.jpg vegas raider

    Before I go….

    Charlie Says:
    December 15th, 2009 at 9:08 am

    As I have said before UPSHAW, SHELL, DALBY,MARVIN,LAWRENCE made guys like Van Eeghan, Hubbard, Plunkett,Stabler and Banazak.
    NOT THE OTHER WAY AROUND.

    ******************************

    Charlie I don’t doubt that, not one bit. But that was 1970 something, Dalby and Van Eeghan aren’t pertinant for today’s NFL.

    That was back when Willie Brown “just went up and choked people”, LOL. In 2009 it is a QB league. Super Bowls are decided by Holmes and Fitzgerald, and every rule change is done to favor the offense and QB/WR’s.

    We gotta get with the now. Explain to me why the Browns still suck offensively even though they drafted a C and LT, who are both fantastic, in the last couple years in the first round. QB!!!!

    I will read the response later.

  • CaptainBlack

    4eva, are you saying there is nothing wrong with the o-line? Is it all JaMarcus?

  • http://media-2.web.britannica.com/eb-media/63/60563-004-52A399D4.jpg Dakota

    Current draft position:

    PICK TEAM W OPP%
    1 RAMS 1 0.548
    2 BUCCANEERS 1 0.563
    3 BROWNS 2 0.519
    4 LIONS 2 0.534
    5 CHIEFS 3 0.519
    6 REDSKINS 4 0.486
    7 RAIDERS 4 0.514
    8 SEAHAWKS 5 0.471
    9 BEARS 5 0.495
    10 BILLS 5 0.510
    11 PANTHERS 5 0.548
    12 STEELERS 6 0.486
    13 49ERS 6 0.490
    14 FALCONS 6 0.500
    15 TEXANS 6 0.538
    16 TITANS 6 0.553
    17 JAGUARS 7 0.490
    18 RAVENS 7 0.514
    19 JETS 7 0.529
    20 GIANTS 7 0.534
    21 DOLPHINS 7 0.543
    22 CARDINALS 8 0.457
    23 COWBOYS 8 0.500
    24 BRONCOS 8 0.514
    25 PATRIOTS 8 0.529
    26 PACKERS 9 0.428
    27 BENGALS 9 0.457
    28 EAGLES 9 0.490
    29 CHARGERS 10 0.457
    30 VIKINGS 11 0.423
    31 SAINTS 13 0.394
    32 COLTS 13 0.481

  • LA to TheBay

    JaMarshmallow Truffle will start, be yanked in the 2nd after contributing to a 10-0 (Bronco) lead.

    Frye Cook will come in and save the day only to have a lapse in discipline cause Chris Johnson to be burned by Brandon Marshall deep.

    Or maybe Trevor Scott, as I’m sure Marshall will be picked up by a linebacker.

  • The Big Banana

    # CaptainBlack Says:
    December 15th, 2009 at 9:08 am

    Banana, Bush does not appear to want to play in Oakland. He is bidding his time for a new team and big contract.
    ===================================================
    I would be too if I was placed in the coach’s doghouse for something so stupid as not wanting to play fullback or needing a breather after 5 straight rushes. Cable is an idiot for that move!

  • 4evaRaider

    Actually CaptainBlack,I’m not saying either,tho I would lean 2 a non-practing,non-playbook knowing,sloth like lil skittle pantzzz.But no,my point is

    The opposing defenses’ are not able 2 gamble with Gradkowski in there because they already know he will make them pay because Gradkowski is deadly accurate.

  • http://media-2.web.britannica.com/eb-media/63/60563-004-52A399D4.jpg Dakota

    LA to TheBay Says:
    December 15th, 2009 at 9:16 am
    JaMarshmallow Truffle will start, be yanked in the 2nd after contributing to a 10-0 (Bronco) lead.

    Frye Cook will come in and save the day only to have a lapse in discipline cause Chris Johnson to be burned by Brandon Marshall deep.

    Or maybe Trevor Scott, as I’m sure Marshall will be picked up by a linebacker.
    _____________________

    Lol, oh schyt…the Marshall-LB matchup…that was fun to watch earlier this season.

  • hellsbells

    How about drafting a real fullback. Kid from USC would be great in the late third. You could have him in the backfield with McFaddin and the you could motion 20 out and still have a run threat who can also catch and block. (Stanly Helvileia) sorry butchered the name

  • DMAC

    Let’s trade Bush already. No point and value of keeping him around on the bench. Let’s get a pick for him.

  • 4evaRaider

    #7 AGAIN???? say it aint so Dakota!!! lol

  • CaptainBlack

    Banana, it’s gotta be more, but not absolute.

  • El Tato

    MIKE MITCHELL ON FRED SMOOT:

    “It was a good football play, a good hit, a good, solid hit you’d be excited about, but once you realize a guy’s hurt, you leave it alone, even say a prayer for him, that’s what I would do. That was a classless act to point at him and continue to get excited, and then to do it right in front of our sideline, who do you think you are?”

    “I understand you’ve been in this league a long time, I’m a rookie, but I haven’t seen you do anything. I’ve been watching this game a lot time, I see you talk a lot. I’m not really a talker, I’m a doer. I stay right here in Oakland, I live in Florence, Kentucky, I travel a lot. Hopefully I can see you and we can talk about it.”

    CABLE (THE GODFATHER):

    “I liked the fact that guys stood up for their teammates, I have no problem with that. In fact, that’s one of the issues that we need more of sometimes, about playing for each other, sticking up for each other, staying strong together, all those things.”

    “That’s just another example of it. I told the team this earlier, I was glad to see our approach to how what happened with that hit, the way those guys were talking and all that. It’s like family. You got to take care of your family.”

  • Charlie

    Offensive lines work as units.
    The Browns still are missing 3/5ths of the unit.
    It is that simple.

    Football is and always will be about BLOCKING AND TACKLING.

    It is the basic fundamental that sets up the balnce needed to run an effective offense. It is the basis upon stopping the run so you can get the ball.
    It is the basis for everything in the game.
    Brandon Marshall caught 21 passes and he LOST.

    Why? No balance.

    Everything starts with the LINES.

    Please do not make it sound like footabll has changed much. Only the media hype has changed.
    When was an offensive lineman interviewed after a game???????????

    You are falling victim to media hype.

    Watch the lines. That is where the games are won and lost.

  • scootertramp

    I’m not a big Chuckie fan because I think hr built an older team that he knew was going to fail. I think that’s one of the reasons he wanted out. That being said; If Al wants him back couldn’t he use the money he got when he traded him as a write off of some sort and add the amount to his salary? There’s gotta be an accountant that could make that work!

  • VanHeathen

    Hey DMac;
    Way to call your shot last week.
    i was watcing the game thinking Cable must have read your comments.
    Now let’s hope JR doesn’t get you killed…

  • http://media-2.web.britannica.com/eb-media/63/60563-004-52A399D4.jpg Dakota

    4evaRaider Says:
    December 15th, 2009 at 9:21 am

    The opposing defenses’ are not able 2 gamble with Gradkowski in there because they already know he will make them pay because Gradkowski is deadly accurate.
    _______________________________________

    What?
    Garbagekowski career comp % 53.3
    with Oakland in 2009 comp % 54.7

    Deadly accurate? Maybe if he was a three point shooting guard in the NBA.

  • BlackSunday32

    Has even priest given up on Russell or will the league know what kind of QB we have IMO Period.

  • BlackSunday32

    Yeah that team Gruden left stunk only went to the SB the next year.

  • 4evaRaider

    Just like O-sack-po said….we know he cant run so I was able 2 do all kind of moves to get him….I think that was a nod toward Mario meaning #2 is a sitting duck and you can only contain me 4 so long.#2 is like the fish out of water

  • El Tato

    What?
    Garbagekowski career comp % 53.3
    with Oakland in 2009 comp % 54.7

    Deadly accurate? Maybe if he was a three point shooting guard in the NBA.

    ——————————–

    Accurate (for us)

  • http://media-2.web.britannica.com/eb-media/63/60563-004-52A399D4.jpg Dakota

    Cable says: “That’s just another example of it. I told the team this earlier, I was glad to see our approach to how what happened with that hit, the way those guys were talking and all that. It’s like family. You got to take care of your family (except your wife right Cable?).”

  • El Tato

    Sign Jason Cambell

  • CaptainBlack

    I am sure if Al brought Gruden back the interest in the Raiders would be where it should be, at the top. And the stands would be full again. Raider fans have always associated themselves with Gruden. Maybe Gruden learned something while away. Al, pick up the phone.

  • 4evaRaider

    Dakota just because of a 54.7% dosent mean he isnt either….WR are dropping and slipping but I have yet 2C him miss a WR or RB.And sometimes DB’s break up a pass just ask JLH in Pittsburgh

  • El Tato

    # Dakota Says:
    December 15th, 2009 at 9:27 am

    Cable says: “That’s just another example of it. I told the team this earlier, I was glad to see our approach to how what happened with that hit, the way those guys were talking and all that. It’s like family. You got to take care of your family (except your wife right Cable?).”

    ———————————

    I was thinking if Randy Hanson was/is a Raiders Family member

  • DMAC

    Yeah Van, he must of really read my schit!

  • http://media-2.web.britannica.com/eb-media/63/60563-004-52A399D4.jpg Dakota

    That is true 4eva.

  • wymanv

    jhill Says:
    December 14th, 2009 at 4:34 pmI just want someone to give me ONE example of Al Davis falling on his sword and admitting he was wrong in terms of decisions HE has made? Just ONE example?
    ——————————————————-

    Lane Kiffin.

  • aig

    Capt Black,

    Gruden was younger and a little full of himself then. I am sure getting fired on national tv is quite a humbling experience. Anyone who has been laid off know the feeling. Imagine being on the national headline.

    Not sure if we got the money nor Al has the balls to do it but Gruden know this…Oakland is where he is a Rockstar. No other place will love him the way he is loved here.

  • http://media-2.web.britannica.com/eb-media/63/60563-004-52A399D4.jpg Dakota

    Who has any proof that Gruden had control of the roster in Oakland and built an old team?

    Everyone says Gruden left because he wanted more money and control over the 53 man roster, leaving Al with the player signings…

    How do you read from that that Gruden “built” that “old” team? How did he build anything if he didn’t even have control of the 53 man roster?

    If you want to attack Gruden, you will have to stick to attacking the way he handled the Bucs, not the Raiders.

  • BlackSunday32

    4eva in the pitt game he missed a wide open jlh and a wide open murphy lets not act like sub 60% is amazing accuracy it just shows any qb in the NFL will be better than Tubby. I say let him start rest of games and he is out of the NFL no way any team would want him.
    GO RAIDERS
    GO LAKERS

  • aig

    here is what happend with Gruden in Oak.

    In the renegotiation, Gruden wanted control of his own coaches. If you remember, Al got rid of Shaw and brought in Breshnahan.

    Al can control the draft.

    The money was never an issue. That was agreed verbally by all parties.

    When the letter finally came, Al took out the paragraph about the coaches. Gruden decided he wanted out.

  • CaptainBlack

    Yep…And he does not have to be the GM. Just has to coach the team, work with Al, and win. If Al wants to win now, there is the coach to do it. I like Cable, but he has no connection with the fans, neither did Turner, Shell, White, Callahan, etc. Madden did, not so much with Flores.

  • 4evaRaider

    I stand corrected Captain thank you….But on that side-line pass I think the WR ran the wrong way but 2b sure he has missed a couple =)

  • El Tato

    Archive for March, 2007

    Randy rumors rampant

    Lane Kiffin left Atlanta following the Pro Day of Georgia Tech wide receiver Calvin Johnson Thursday afternoon as rumors swirled that the Raiders were on the verge of dealing wide receiver Randy Moss to the Green Bay Packers.

    According to the Boston Herald, the Raiders would also ship tight end Courtney Anderson to Green Bay. In return, Oakland would receive backup quarterback Aaron Rodgers and a seventh-round draft pick.

    ———————

    I wish we had Rodgers right now

  • Salvida

    Why do fans keep wishing for O-linmen to be drafted when they KNOW Al doesn’t waste his picks on linmen… the only reason he took Gallery is because he has long hair!

    Another thought, when the hell is the league gonna get people to that make the right call!! You know the ones thatfVck up the reviews all the time. Anyone see Fitzgeralds catch last night? 100% a catch, who the fvck can’t see that?!?

  • CaptainBlack

    4eva, that was not me. I like Grad

  • http://media-2.web.britannica.com/eb-media/63/60563-004-52A399D4.jpg Dakota

    El Tato Says:
    December 15th, 2009 at 9:41 am
    Archive for March, 2007

    Randy rumors rampant

    Lane Kiffin left Atlanta following the Pro Day of Georgia Tech wide receiver Calvin Johnson Thursday afternoon as rumors swirled that the Raiders were on the verge of dealing wide receiver Randy Moss to the Green Bay Packers.

    According to the Boston Herald, the Raiders would also ship tight end Courtney Anderson to Green Bay. In return, Oakland would receive backup quarterback Aaron Rodgers and a seventh-round draft pick.
    ________________________________________

    That would have been a franchise changer…Kiffin would still be coaching here and the Rodgers to Johnson hookup would be a thing of beauty!

    sigh

  • 4evaRaider

    LMAO DMAC!!!!…and you can repay the favor by “not seeing” that charging DL if lil skittle plays