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No decision on Russell-Frye

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With Bruce Gradkowski almost certainly out of Sunday’s game in Denver, coach Tom Cable said during his weekly press briefing he wanted to give the matter of whether to start JaMarcus Russell or Charlie Frye some more in-depth thought.

Expect Cable to make his call, after discussing it with Al Davis, on Wednesday.

Something Cable will have to take into consideration _ tight end Zach Miller sustained a concussion when he was hit near the end of the game by Rocky McIntosh. It was Miller’s second concussion of the season, the first coming Oct. 4 against Houston.

Given the league’s new guidelines on concussions and pressure to play it safe, Miller is no lock to play. Miller has been the only receiver Russell seems to trust. Russell threw nine of his 16 passes Sunday to tight ends.

More to come . . .

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Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer

  • Thec07

    Burn BRL at the stake

  • Thec07

    BRL = Black Ryan Leaf….

  • Thec07

    Put in the frye cook…

  • Thec07

    Cut BRL now…

  • Thec07

    BRL, worst QB in the history of the NFL….

  • jhill

    Thats when the team went to the post office….

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    And I hope they mailed their checks back in along with their effor!

  • Thec07

    Mr. Davis worst owner, of any sports franchise ever…

  • 4evaRaider

    Maybe they was just giving Russell a taste of his OWN MEDICINE

  • jhill

    Is this the bye week Thec?

    LOL!

  • Thec07

    jhill Says:
    December 14th, 2009 at 2:38 pm
    Thats when the team went to the post office….

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    And I hope they mailed their checks back in along with their effor!

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    I said it before, we dont have many stand up guys on this team. 2 of them are on defense, happen to be new guys, Seymour, and ellis. I might throw, Mitchell, and Aso in the mix… Not much else…

  • Thec07

    jhill Says:
    December 14th, 2009 at 2:40 pm
    Is this the bye week Thec?

    LOL!

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    ROFLMAO…….. For us every week is a bye week…

  • Thec07

    4evaRaider Says:
    December 14th, 2009 at 2:39 pm
    Maybe they was just giving Russell a taste of his OWN MEDICINE

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    Arsenic, goes down smooth….

  • jhill

    Not buying it 4eva …

    Totally agree with Raiderdogg on this one. Don’t care who the QB is, the other guys on the field need to be busting their asses! He is dead on about the CFL/UFL and other guys chomping at the bit instead of these quitters.

    How about our Oline staying WITH #2 to work on their pass blocking skills. They are HARDLY ones to talk.

  • 4evaRaider

    Oh I didnt say if it was right or not but you know what comes around goes around

  • jhill

    I said it before, we dont have many stand up guys on this team. 2 of them are on defense, happen to be new guys, Seymour, and ellis. I might throw, Mitchell, and Aso in the mix… Not much else…

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    Agree Thec! Which is why I understand your leader of men takes when it comes to Jamarcus. Mario and his “you talking to me” act when Grads had to tell him to stop watching the replay on the big screen? LMFAO!

  • Russel will never reach Ryan Leaf or Tony Mandarich status. Most likely, he will just fade away quietly. Those two, along with Bozworth, will always be remembered due to their douche bag personas.

  • Should sit Miller, Murphy, and Schilens

    Let DHB, JLH, and McFadden play WR (Walker as back-up) with Fargas at RB

    Hell, give Huff a shot at WR… Couldn’t do worse than DHB.

    No sense risking injury to the few good offensive players we have.

  • Thec07

    You would think most if not all NFL players were stand up, as they are literally going to war…
    Nope Most of them are probable train wrecks….

    Grads led these men, they believed and trusted him.
    Only thing BRL is good for is stamps, or directions to the post office…

    I wouldnt follow BRL…..

  • 4evaRaider

    especially at golden coral =)

  • DKnight007

    Moves that should be made for this pathetic Raider franchise to be respectable again but won’t because Al Davis is stupid:

    1A. Restructure down Russells contract or cut him since he is due an undeserved amount of money in an uncapped year next year and use that money to hire the guys in 1B below:

    1B. Hire Holmgren as GM/Personnel Man and Hire Jon Gruden as Head Coach

    2. Hire Bruce Allen as the capologist

    3. Let Holmgeren and Gruden talk to their buddy Andy Reid in Philly about trading for Vick or Kolb to compete with Grads as the starting QB in 2010.

    4. If they get a top 6 pick in round 1, then try like heck to trade down! If they can’t trade down…and if they can’t draft Suh, then look to draft MLB Spikes, OT Campbell or DT McCoy.

    5. The draft should be focused on upgrading the O and D lines and LB corp.

    If the looney old Al man makes all these moves that mentioned above then he actually might have a chance at seeing the team reach a Super Bowl within 3 years or before he dies.

    If the stubborn delusional old man Al doesn’t make any of these hires and moves, then the team will continue to SUCK!!

    It’s simple…..but to Al Davis it isn’t so simple….because he is a senile, stubborn egotistical old man, who only cares about himself!

    ^^^^^^
    Answering someone elses previous question about needing Allen since there will be no cap in 2010.

    The team will still need a competent man like Bruce Allen in charge of handling finances and contracts.

  • Thec07

    Big Sey Stand up guy
    ZMill Stand up guy
    MMitchell Stand up guy
    Ellis Stand up guy
    Murphy Stand up guy
    Chaz Stand up guy
    Aso Stand up guy

    BRL <——- Garbage R Us…

  • los raiders de don rober

    100% agree with sitting Miller, Murphy and Schilens. Play DHB & Watkins. I don’t know abot JLH, the little guy has been getting plastered over the middle the last couple of week. Why not play Gary Russell in the slot? Al thinks he’s fast enough to return punts, why not give him a shot at some deep routes?

  • The Big Banana

    More thought? Yeah, Cable wants to draw up an essay to Davis on why Frye should start over Russell.

  • RaidingTexas

    Running back Justin Fargas, who in recent weeks lauded Gradkowski’s command of the huddle and enthusiasm, said, “Well I think we were building something there but we can’t let the momentum or fire be killed by that we have to find a way to keep it going.”

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    Uhhh, someone should let Fargas know how that game ended yesterday. The momentum or fire was completely extinguished. It’s not even up for discussion.

  • The Big Banana

    “We knew JaMarcus was a pocket guy,” Orakpo said. “He wasn’t a running threat. So I was able to let loose with all kinds of moves to get to him.”

  • The Big Banana

    # NorthernD Says:
    December 14th, 2009 at 2:44 pm

    I’ve been tempted to use other names to refer to JaMarcus Russell. But I’ve refrained.
    I think in a few years, just the name JaMarcus will be considered an insult.

    “OMG, that guy’s so bad, he’s the next JaMarcus…”
    ====================================================
    So true. Maybe they’ll name the new rookie cap (if one is approved) after JaMarcus.

  • Thec07

    007, good post Bruh….

  • Thec07

    Let DHB get reps with BRL, and get killed…..

    Let me sleep on that one….

  • RaiderRockstar

    Russell was benched in the KC game because of his play on the field. Gradkowski was handed the reigns because of Russell’s failure, not his upside or accomplishments. Graddy started 4 games before his injury. Russell said he learned and has grown from his time on the bench. said he’ll be ready when his number is called. His number was called on Sunday and his play hadn’t changed one bit. He’s still on turd status imo. If Russell can be benched for Bruce, he can be benched for Charlie just the same. neither QB came in here with impressive credentials. they were basically just guys who were ok being backups that weren’t supposed to be talented enough to “push him” or compete for the starting job.

    Tom Cable, start Frye against Dungver! give us a chance to win the game. don’t slap the players in the face again. they are playing for pride right now. no way we finish 8-8. just trying to avoid another season of double digit losses

  • RaiderRockstar

    Again, what is BRL ???

  • Thec07

    BRL <—— Black Ryan Leaf….

  • Thec07

    JRUSS is the super hero BRL…..

  • jhill

    Rockstar,

    Does Southwick get on the roster as the #3 this week?

  • Einstein

    Thec07 I have met my match. I think I finally found a fellow fan that dislikes BRL as much as I do.

  • RaiderRockstar

    nobody wants to talk about how Mario Henderson got abused by a rookie tweener …

    he looked like a guy who learned pass protection from Barry Sims & Kwame Harris his first 2 years in the league.

    oh yeah, he did!

  • RaiderRockstar

    BRL <—— Black Ryan Leaf….

    ***

    LOL! Very nice. only a matter of time before Kell starts calling you guys racist for saying "black" instead of "african american". haha

  • NorthernD

    The Big Banana Says:
    December 14th, 2009 at 2:53 pm
    # NorthernD Says:
    December 14th, 2009 at 2:44 pm

    I’ve been tempted to use other names to refer to JaMarcus Russell. But I’ve refrained.
    I think in a few years, just the name JaMarcus will be considered an insult.

    “OMG, that guy’s so bad, he’s the next JaMarcus…”
    ====================================================
    So true. Maybe they’ll name the new rookie cap (if one is approved) after JaMarcus.
    ==============================================
    The JaMarcus Russell salary cap…I love it.

  • jhill

    OUr QB situation is so bad that we should really ignore it and focus on building the rest of the team. The chances of getting a QB to rectify this mess came and went with Jamarcus Russell.

    We need to start facing the fact that we will NOT have an elite QB anytime soon and focus on building a dominating defense that can hold teams to 17 pts or less. We get a defense like that, we won’t have to worry about offense. We can just run the ball and dink and dunk to eat up some clock.

  • Thec07

    Einstein Says:
    December 14th, 2009 at 2:57 pm
    Thec07 I have met my match. I think I finally found a fellow fan that dislikes BRL as much as I do.

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    This is the way I see it. I was asked on this blog to refrain from talking bad about the players. I said OK, I wont say asnything dispariging about them. But if we go into the bye, and have a losing record, I am going to let the team have it. BRL is one of the main objects of my dissatisfaction with the raiders.
    He upitomizes ALL that is wrong…

    Norco Bob hated BRL…

  • jhill

    he looked like a guy who learned pass protection from Barry Sims & Kwame Harris his first 2 years in the league.

    oh yeah, he did!

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    LMFAO!

  • RaiderRockstar

    Does Southwick get on the roster as the #3 this week?

    ***

    Jhill, #3 ???

    Danny Southwick should have been starting since week 1 !

    seriously, with your franchise QB, former #1 overall pick having 2 TD’s and 15 turnovers … can you imagine Southwick playing any worse?

  • RaiderRockstar

    5pm in Podunk. later fellas!

  • jhill

    Free Norco!

  • NorthernD

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    December 14th, 2009 at 2:58 pm
    nobody wants to talk about how Mario Henderson got abused by a rookie tweener …

    he looked like a guy who learned pass protection from Barry Sims & Kwame Harris his first 2 years in the league.

    oh yeah, he did!
    =====================================
    He did look bad, but when a DE knows he has a confused, immobile target at QB, it’s like throwing chum in the water.
    Total feeding frenzy.

  • Thec07

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    December 14th, 2009 at 2:59 pm
    BRL <—— Black Ryan Leaf….

    ***

    LOL! Very nice. only a matter of time before Kell starts calling you guys racist for saying "black" instead of "african american". haha

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    Rock, That would be an issue but becuase I am an african american not a prob for me…..
    Besides, people need to develop some skin, quit be a sissy over some of this race stuff…

  • LA to TheBay

    Deep within the bowels of the Legion of Doom (Oakland Raiders Headquarters – Alameda, CA), the Supreme Commander of the Silver & Black ponders the catastrophe that is the 2009 season.

    In walks starting quarterback Bruce Gradkowski, joining Davis and Head Coach Tom Cable, who has a very sheepish look on his face.

    Gradkowski: Hey, Coach! Mr. Davis.

    Cable: Hey, Bruce. Have a seat.

    Al: Silence, fat boy! Hey, Bruce. Have a seat.

    Cable: How are you feeling?

    Gradkowski: Great. Knee’s a bit sore but I’m ready to rock in Denver. Did I read in the paper that I have a torn MCL? That’s rich. Just a bruise really. Those media guys are really full of it, huh?

    Al: You do have an MCL tear.

    Gradkowski: No, really it’s fine.

    Davis pushes a button, and with the hiss of hydraulics, the bookshelf in his office slides open to reveal Assistant Executive John Herrera, wielding a Louisville Slugger.

    Gradkowski: Hah, man I heard you guys were different here in Oakland, but man, this is rich. You guys crack me up. But seriously, coach, let’s talk about Denver. I’ve been noticing their over-pursuit. I think if we can buy some time, I can make some plays with my legs.

    Al: You have an MCL tear.

    Gradkowski: Mr. Davis, really, I’m good –

    Herrera, a deranged look on his face, whacks Gradkowski’s knee with all his might. An audible crack echoes all around the facility, followed by the agonizing scream of young Bruce Gradkowski.

    Al: Good work, John. After you check the wire taps, bring JaMarcus in here.

    Herrera: Mr. Davis, it’s 3 o’clock, he’s at In N Out for his regularly scheduled “Double Dose of Double-Double.”

    Al: Dammit, I thought that was at 1?!

    Herrera: Um, yeah, 1 o’clock as well.

    Al: Call him, will you? Tell him we have his marijuana cigars and white women waiting.

    Herrera: Yes, Mr. Davis.

    Al: Also, call Amy. I want the results of the survey for the season ticket holders. I need a good laugh.

    Herrera: Yes, Mr. Davis.

    As Davis, Herrera, and Cable walk out the office, they have to step over Gradkowski, who is lying on the floor, still moaning, racked with pain.

    Al: Pick yourself up, will you? My god son, have some self respect.

    Cable: Sorry, kid.

    Later at the press conference….

    Cable: We’ve spoken at length with JaMarcus, and he is reformed, rested and ready to go Sunday. He’s really got his head in the game, folks.

    Reporter: Really? ‘Cause I just got a tweet from my cousin who works at In N Out, and apparently Russell has just set a record for most Double-Doubles consumed in the span of a minute, with thirty eight.

  • jhill

    seriously, with your franchise QB, former #1 overall pick having 2 TD’s and 15 turnovers … can you imagine Southwick playing any worse?

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    Can’t say that I can.

  • Thec07

    Jhill, I would take the neighborhood dog catcher or the mailman over BRL…

  • Thec07

    Reporter: Really? ‘Cause I just got a tweet from my cousin who works at In N Out, and apparently Russell has just set a record for most Double-Doubles consumed in the span of a minute, with thirty eight.

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    So BRL is a winner….

  • RaiderNick

    cut Jamarcus, better to lose $5 million next year then to pay him $9.5 to hold a clipboard. sign a veteran QB and we’ll instantly be a.500 team!!!