Losman to join Raiders
By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Tuesday, December 15th, 2009 at 4:38 pm in Oakland Raiders.
Bruce Gradkowski is injured and signed to a one-year contract. Charlie Frye is signed to a one-year contract. JaMarcus Russell is signed to a contract the Raiders might not necessarily want to pay.
With those things in mind, JP Losman is in Alameda, taking a physical and signed with the Raiders, beat writer Steve Corkran is reporting.
Losman, a former first-round pick of the Buffalo Bills, was the quarterback of the UFL champion Las Vegas Locomotives.
The Raiders freed up a roster spot by waiving Roy Schuening, an offensive lineman who was signed to the 53-man roster Saturday to take the place of Robert Gallery.
Losman, 10-23 in five seasons with Buffalo, worked out with Indianapolis and was reportedly close to signing a contract with the Colts.
Losman passed for 6,211 yards with 33 touchdowns and 34 interceptions in Buffalo.
More grist for the rumor mill _ Losman’s UFL coach was Jim Fassel, who said last year he was interested in coaching the Raiders and whose son, John, is the Raiders special teams coordinator. The elder Fassel attended the Raiders-Redskins game Sunday.
Fassel was a Raiders offensive assistant in 1994.
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December 15th, 2009 at 4:39 pm
Champions baby!!!
December 15th, 2009 at 4:40 pm
Vegas,
i’m with you, Grads has been the best thing about this season.
Whatever happens for him, i’ll be a fan.
Hopefully he’ll be back in Silver and Black…
December 15th, 2009 at 4:42 pm
Bruce Gradkowski,
I feel like this is the begin of the end, kind of like breaking up. It was real, and it was real fun.
I will miss you
Your biggest fan,
Vegas Raider
December 15th, 2009 at 4:44 pm
Vegas, why are you talking like this?
December 15th, 2009 at 4:44 pm
Why is Grads leaving?
December 15th, 2009 at 4:44 pm
# vegas raider Says:
December 15th, 2009 at 4:39 pm
Champions baby!!!
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LOL Im very happy 4 yall..
December 15th, 2009 at 4:45 pm
great news…. so this is what we have become?? UFLs best team??
December 15th, 2009 at 4:45 pm
Hell nah,
This isn’t the last of Gradkowski as a Raider. J.P. & Bruce are going to battle it out next training camp while Russell is turned into a special teams kick off return blocker.
December 15th, 2009 at 4:46 pm
Hey LMN… how ya been???
December 15th, 2009 at 4:47 pm
JR’s gonna play guard and tackle.
Guard the skittles,
tackle anyone who goes near them…
December 15th, 2009 at 4:48 pm
i want to see Russell as our MLB
December 15th, 2009 at 4:48 pm
408!
been great, though all sports teams I follow are falling apart… :/
December 15th, 2009 at 4:50 pm
Dear JaMarcus:
You suck.
Sincerely:
Al Davis
December 15th, 2009 at 4:51 pm
Our boy Gradkowski aint going anywhere….but then again Vegas did say Losmann would sign here….
SAY IT AINT SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
December 15th, 2009 at 4:51 pm
JP Losman to start against the Donkey’s on Sunday!!
December 15th, 2009 at 4:52 pm
Jamarcus should go out for Raiderette, he has great tits
December 15th, 2009 at 4:52 pm
Losman has the big arm Al covets. Cable hasn’t gotten many wins and probably will be fired.
Than Fassell emerges, with the background of working with Losman.
It seems as the easiest transition away from the Tom Cable-Jamarcus Russell era.
December 15th, 2009 at 4:52 pm
please any body but fassel. I would rather see Marc Trestman, Charlie Wiess, or even Tom Rathman.
December 15th, 2009 at 4:53 pm
LMN
That sucks.. I still got My Sharks
Our RAIDERS are still the same as you know. Nice win @ steelers tho
December 15th, 2009 at 4:53 pm
Ted Nugent had a song called Writing on the Wall
You ever hear that #2????
December 15th, 2009 at 4:54 pm
4evaRaider Says:
December 15th, 2009 at 4:51 pm
Our boy Gradkowski aint going anywhere….but then again Vegas did say Losmann would sign here….
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In the semi-finals for our FFL as well, LOL.
I should pull a George Costanza and leave the room while I’m ahead.
December 15th, 2009 at 4:54 pm
Smooth transition.. Fassell/JP era!! What number does JP have?
December 15th, 2009 at 4:55 pm
I just got off of my space and checked out Gorilla Rilla’s pics w/ Jon Gruden OMG Al Swallow your pride and take out your wallet we need CHUCKY BACK!!I know im dreaming but DREAMS DO COME TRUE!!He was sporting a Bo Jackson jersey!! WOW!!HOW KOOL WAS THAT!!
December 15th, 2009 at 4:55 pm
mistic1
I heard that!
December 15th, 2009 at 4:55 pm
Justice is slow and sure in the making but when its time 4 justice 2B served it is swift and merciless,#2
December 15th, 2009 at 4:56 pm
I sure like Frye more than Losman….
coaching talk, Trestman and Rathman should have been locked up in contracts for next decade…
Rathman was our Rungame, Trestman was our passgame, those two at the same time would be golden…
December 15th, 2009 at 4:57 pm
Ja Marcus wow I tried to keep the faith up tilll Sunday U SUCK sorry…
December 15th, 2009 at 4:57 pm
“The Polish Pop-Gun.” is more than likely done for the year.
Losman was brought in as a emergency #3 QB, nothing more.
Just hope that Frye gets the nod over JaMeatloaf.
December 15th, 2009 at 4:58 pm
HI RAIDER NATION >>>
December 15th, 2009 at 4:58 pm
ldynblk26 put up a link!
December 15th, 2009 at 4:58 pm
Losman should start Sunday. I hope JaMarcus realizes he’s gonna be a security guard in 3-5 years. That would fit him fine. Does not have to do anything but show-up for work and get paid
December 15th, 2009 at 4:58 pm
I always liked Fassell. Seems to be a no nonsense guy, been around a lot of offenses. Had his team much more ready to play than Denny Green’s on opening night in the UFL, for whatever that is worth.
And he has actually been a Head Coach before, with some success.
When can we say that about any of our recent Head Coaches?
December 15th, 2009 at 4:59 pm
Congratulations on your big win vs. Hellsbells Vegas…Good luck vs.AZR8DER
December 15th, 2009 at 5:00 pm
I’m willing to bet Losman starts the last game of the year, at home to the Ravens.
December 15th, 2009 at 5:01 pm
I guess Big Al isnt gonna let #2 drive his Hot-Rod ANYMOREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
December 15th, 2009 at 5:01 pm
No more sending WR’s 2 their retirement from #2
December 15th, 2009 at 5:02 pm
Fassell’s more likely than Gruden, although Fassell would be a puppet and accept one of Al’s ridiculous contracts, so he wouldn’t be effective. Joe Bugel II. Tough talker, yet still a puppet. And, Russell’s not going anywhere. I see Al keeping…what’s his name again? The guy that was in Buffalo? Oh, it doesn’t matter. Anyhow, Al will keep him on, but he won’t start. Russell is our starting QB next year, and Russell will be our starting QB in week one of every season until he’s 30. Because Al will never give up on him and thus concede to Kiffin being right.
December 15th, 2009 at 5:03 pm
Gradkowski and Cable gone after this year. We’ve probably seen the last of Gradkowski.
December 15th, 2009 at 5:03 pm
We need a dynamic head coach. If Grads and Losman are the real deal, and Al brings Jon Gruden back to work together, Al will have a dynasty. I believe our Kharma is changing, and it starts with the QB. Now build the lines with FA and the draft
December 15th, 2009 at 5:04 pm
Well, at least the last of Gradkowski in Oakland. We might see him light us up in another uniform.
December 15th, 2009 at 5:04 pm
What???? Vegas you think #2 gonna play vs. Broncos????
December 15th, 2009 at 5:04 pm
Pray for Tresman, Rathman combo. This is as close to gruden as your gonna get. Pray that Jamarcus, takes this year as a lesson and works his butt of over the offseason. Jamarcus is guilty of what a lot of young players are guilty of, never learning how to work or study because you have been given the silver ( and black) spoon treatment. Maybe Trestman and Rathman can bring in a veteran qb off the scrap heap to be jamarcus’s shadow, and keep him off the cough medicine cocktails and out of the barber shops on macaurthur.
December 15th, 2009 at 5:04 pm
Another freakin reason to bring back Gruden and Allen and maybe even add Holmgren as head of personnel and operations.
Hiring those guys (especially Gruden) will put BUTTS in the seats for cryin out loud!
How many reasons does the crazy old man need to hire Gruden back?!??!
Unreal….
Even the Browns are getting smart….they interviewed Mike Holmgren to be the head of personnel and operations.
They are being smart! Why the hell can’t the looney Al Davis do the same??!!?
HIRE JON CHUCKIE GRUDEN….NOT JIM FOSSILIZED FASSELL!!
December 15th, 2009 at 5:04 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
December 15th, 2009 at 5:02 pm
Fassell’s more likely than Gruden, although Fassell would be a puppet and accept one of Al’s ridiculous contracts, so he wouldn’t be effective. Joe Bugel II. Tough talker, yet still a puppet. And, Russell’s not going anywhere. I see Al keeping…what’s his name again? The guy that was in Buffalo? Oh, it doesn’t matter. Anyhow, Al will keep him on, but he won’t start. Russell is our starting QB next year, and Russell will be our starting QB in week one of every season until he’s 30. Because Al will never give up on him and thus concede to Kiffin being right.
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I think you may be right! You hit it right on the money!
December 15th, 2009 at 5:05 pm
Interesting story about Gruden reunion at Ricky’s. This has all the makings of Gruden making himself endearing to Al Davis. If he comes back to Oakland, he already has a QB he drafted in Tampa, Gradkowski. Also Paul Hacket, who coached in Tampa with Gruden, is already in place, and seemed to make Gradkowski into a interesting NFL prospect…
Losman, he is also a type of QB Gruden might play. Mobile type.
December 15th, 2009 at 5:05 pm
vegas raider Says:
December 15th, 2009 at 4:58 pm
I always liked Fassell. Seems to be a no nonsense guy, been around a lot of offenses. Had his team much more ready to play than Denny Green’s on opening night in the UFL, for whatever that is worth.
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Means nothing. In Oakland, he’ll take orders. First of them being: Russell starts.
December 15th, 2009 at 5:07 pm
4evaRaider Says:
December 15th, 2009 at 5:04 pm
What???? Vegas you think #2 gonna play vs. Broncos????
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I honestly hope they let Frye start to keep the game somewhat competitive for the first 3 quarters, and than bring in Russell for the 4th to just let him get his head kicked in.
Can’t see Losman coming in on Tuesday and starting on the weekend. If an owner has more confidence in a guy off the streets than his QB’s in town all year, boy that really says something.
December 15th, 2009 at 5:08 pm
Gruden always visits Rickey’s. Good friends with them, has a parking space there. It means nothing. Gruden would never come back to Oakland for anything less than what he demanded a decade ago, and Al would never give that to a head coach in writing. Just do yourselves a favor and stop dreaming about it. It’s not happening. Fassell is a more likely scenario, even though he’ll be a worthless puppet, like all of our post Gruden coaches sans Kiffin.
December 15th, 2009 at 5:09 pm
Hopefully its Frye
December 15th, 2009 at 5:09 pm
Can we please draft a stud defensive tackle as well??!!
Gerard fat burger warren and tommy two tackle kelly are subs at best.
December 15th, 2009 at 5:10 pm
Al Davis, draft a DT that can play the run? Are you high?
December 15th, 2009 at 5:10 pm
Gruden learned much from Al. I hope Al brings him back. Very positive things are happening now, Gruden would be icing on the cake. Watch and see the stands fill as Jon brings back smash-mouthed football home to Oakland. This time, Jon will have a QB who can throw it 40 yards accurately unlike Gannon.
December 15th, 2009 at 5:11 pm
Seymour came in after just a couple of days. I know the QB position is different, but they could keep it basic.
December 15th, 2009 at 5:12 pm
I guy can dream cant he? Darrel Russel anyone. rest in peace
December 15th, 2009 at 5:12 pm
Captain Black, name one thing Gruden learned from Al.
December 15th, 2009 at 5:12 pm
You can dream, I can be realistic. That’s my right as well.
December 15th, 2009 at 5:14 pm
Russell starts 1st Q and gets hammered! Frye comes in half ways through the 1st and throws 2 INT’s! Jp Losman starts in the 2nd and finishes the game. He will start the remaining 2 games, with a 2-1 record he will compete with Bruce “Almighty” for the starting position next season along with Tebow who we picked up in the 3rd round!
Let’s get this party started, right?
December 15th, 2009 at 5:14 pm
If I said anything you would disagree, so I wont. You have a dark cloud around you so it is rather pointless to further any discussion with you.
December 15th, 2009 at 5:15 pm
Al Davis has a dark cloud around him. 7 straight years of losing? My surroundings are pretty sunny compared to that.
December 15th, 2009 at 5:15 pm
# The Real MaddenRaider Says:
December 15th, 2009 at 5:12 pm
Captain Black, name one thing Gruden learned from Al.
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how NOT to run your ship…
December 15th, 2009 at 5:15 pm
I think there are a lot of people around Al Davis, and also fans reactions, Rickys, etc. that know that Fassel would be even more blackouts at the coliseum.
Al knows, Amy Trask knows, they all know what the news of hiring Gruden would do to this franchise. Just the news alone would generate a playoff atmosphere with ancitipation. A lot of positives. Everybody kwnows that.
But Al Davis wants to show everybody that he has a better idea.
Thing is nobody beleives him anymore.
December 15th, 2009 at 5:15 pm
MR, I would suggest you go online and research what Gruden has said about Al Davis. You may learn something.
December 15th, 2009 at 5:16 pm
Oh, and the real reason you won’t name anything that Gruden learned from Al Davis is because Gruden learned absolutely nothing from Al Davis, other than who NOT to work for. Still waiting on one example as to what Gruden learned from Al Davis, other than what not to do.
December 15th, 2009 at 5:16 pm
LMN,
Before the draft you and I both wanted Robiskie. I think we did a whole lot better with Murhpy in his place. Thoughts bro?
Grad will be back. If not, he will find another gig in the offseason. he did wonders for us and he should thank JR last Sunday for making Grad some mulla.
No way Losman starts for us. Frye is the starter for sure. This means Grad is on IR.
December 15th, 2009 at 5:17 pm
Cable has to go, he never figured out the bush and mac fadden were his best runners, he never figured out how to use them. He has failed to develope the young players. Jamarcus actually regressed. The last 2 games of 08 he looked like he could be the real deal. Those games were on the road, he cant avoid the distractions here in oakland. Booty, narcotics, night life. Charles Woodson, comes to mind.
December 15th, 2009 at 5:17 pm
Black, I dont’ recall Gruden saying he learned anything specifically from Al Davis. Sure, he’s paid a little lip service, talking about how Al’s smart and knows the game, same formality everyone says about him, even though they know he’s nuts. But I don’t recall Gruden saying he learned any particular thing from Al Davis. You said Gruden learned a lot from Al Davis. Your words. So, name one thing.
December 15th, 2009 at 5:18 pm
J.P. Losman with the Las Vegas Locomotives
Passing
C/ATT PCT YDS AVG TD INT LONG
123/198 62.1 1386 7.0 9 2 60
December 15th, 2009 at 5:19 pm
JT, good post. I hope you are wrong on that point in your second to last paragraph
December 15th, 2009 at 5:19 pm
Cable will be gone, Mistic, and replaced with the next Tom Cable, Jim Fassell, who will not be able to develop Al’s lousy players, either.
December 15th, 2009 at 5:20 pm
Black, are you going to name one thing Gruden learned from Al Davis? You said he learned “a lot”. So, name one thing.
December 15th, 2009 at 5:20 pm
J.P. Losman NFL career. Not very good.
YEAR TEAM G CMP ATT PCT YDS AVG TD LNG INT RAT
Career 42 558 941 59.3 6211 6.6 33 87 34 75.6
December 15th, 2009 at 5:20 pm
Jamarcus is toast MaddenRaider.
If Al is going to bring in him back next year, he would start him the next 3 weeks.
You think he is starting anything other than maybe this week?
December 15th, 2009 at 5:22 pm
AIG…
well i guess. still think he’ll become a beast, I dont like DHB, I think Robiskie or last seasons eddie royal would be better…
with better coaching robiskie would be an o rookie, im sure, well im just so freaking pissed that we drafted DHB.. DHB apparently thinks he plays baseball because all he does is hitting the ball… 1d1ot…
December 15th, 2009 at 5:22 pm
Captain
I hope I am wrong too…
Probably I am like Jerry here, wanting Gruden to come back, but seeing it impossible…
Even tough all the signs are there, all the star aligning for a Gruden/Allen 2…
Hey, Davis brought back Art Shell…
This offseason will make or break the raiders for the near future….
December 15th, 2009 at 5:22 pm
Vegas Raider, Russell is starting here next year. If Cable lobbies for someone else to finish this season, Al will likely let him have it, then fire Cable and cut that QB after the season. Russell’s going to be a Raider until he’s 30, Vegas, and he’ll be our week one starter every year until then.
December 15th, 2009 at 5:23 pm
Because he’s a great player, so get over it.
December 15th, 2009 at 5:23 pm
No need to argue about Gruden,he always says he has respect for davis and davis’s foot ball knowlege, but paying big money for hc is not the davis way. he would rather choose a life long assistant or an off the radar diamond in the rough. Davis believes players are more important than coaches and schemes. I cant see davis paying gruden the big money. Also gruden was good as a coach but his personel moves in tampa were suspect, especially at the qb spot. Trestman Rathman in 2010!
December 15th, 2009 at 5:24 pm
At 30 years old, Jamarcus Russell is going to be 330+ pounds and working on type II diabetes.
The NFL will be long behind him by then.
December 15th, 2009 at 5:24 pm
JT, don’t bother. He simply can’t read between the lines. He really thinks Gruden just wants to coach for the Raiders, and that the contract wont’ matter. He thinks Gruden is a big of a Raider fan as he is. He’s just not seeing the reality of the situation, and that is that Gruden is not coming here for anything less than what he demanded the last time he was here.
December 15th, 2009 at 5:25 pm
vegas raider Says:
December 15th, 2009 at 5:24 pm
At 30 years old, Jamarcus Russell is going to be 330+ pounds and working on type II diabetes.
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And starting QB for the Oakland Raiders, if Al Davis is alive.
December 15th, 2009 at 5:25 pm
speaking of 1d1ots… shouldnt we bring in incognito he lost his marbles once again, but still he is a helluva guard, and he is out there to take…
December 15th, 2009 at 5:26 pm
Interesting….
Years ago, in Jim Plunkett’s book, Plunkett was told Stabler was on his way out – that Davis thought Stabler’s arm was fading.
This was in 1978. Coming off an AFC Championship game appearance the previous year.
Even when he wins, Davis H-A-T-E-S weak-armed QB’s. We all saw an amazing, dramatic win in Pittsburgh.
Davis saw two wounded ducks fluttering through the air that were lucky to be caught on that last drive.
No way in hell Grads is in Oakland next season. He doesn’t have the arm, and Davis doesn’t care if he wins or not (see: current opinion of Rich Gannon at Raider HQ).
The only potential upside of Grads playing is that maybe, just maybe, Davis will see that Russell isn’t the answer.
Unfortunately, Davis’s answer will be to find another big-armed QB that he thinks will be the next great QB of the Raiduhs.
And that guy just might be Losman.
December 15th, 2009 at 5:26 pm
MR, he learned how to be a head coach in the NFL. He can thank Al for that, and has.
December 15th, 2009 at 5:27 pm
Mistic, saying he respects Davis’s football knowledge, whatever, does not mean he’s “learned a lot”, as Captain Black put it. I’m still waiting for captain to name one single thing that Jon Gruden has learned from Al Davis about the modern day NFL.
December 15th, 2009 at 5:27 pm
I don’t know what to think about Fassell…
He took the Giants to a SB, but the whole thing there ended very badly.
And you would think that at least ONE other team would have taken a flyer on a guy who took a team to a Super Bowl.
I mean, begging for the Raiders job is incomprehensible to be. It makes me wonder what happened behind the scenes to get Fassell more or less blackballed in the NFL since being let go in NY.
Anyone else have any thoughts on it?
December 15th, 2009 at 5:28 pm
Captain Black, what do you mean Al taught Gruden how to be a head coach in the NFL? What specifically did Al Davis teach him about coaching in the NFL? Name one thing.
December 15th, 2009 at 5:28 pm
DHb will be fine. Any 20 year old would struggle, playing against nfl calibur men. Also the fact that he has no real leadership to rely on or learn from. Give him some time, he may never justify a number seven pick but, he will be a good pro one day. We need a staff that can develope our young guys, qb included.
December 15th, 2009 at 5:29 pm
I am sure Al would agree that some of his QB selections have not been the best. OK…But he has made some fantastic selections too. MR, it’s not all bad
December 15th, 2009 at 5:30 pm
Captain Black, nothing is “all bad”, but Al Davis is about as close as anyone can get to being all bad. So, are you going to name one single thing that Gruden learned from Al Davis, or were you just making that up because it sounded good?
December 15th, 2009 at 5:30 pm
# The Real MaddenRaider Says:
December 15th, 2009 at 5:12 pm
Captain Black, name one thing Gruden learned from Al.
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how NOT to run your ship…
—sorry for the re-post, but Al worshipers needs to realize that Gruden was already up and coming as an eagles OC….
December 15th, 2009 at 5:30 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
And starting QB for the Oakland Raiders, if Al Davis is alive.
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Does anyone know how old his mother was when she passed?
Thank you!!
Now do we want that?
December 15th, 2009 at 5:31 pm
that said, im heading home =)
December 15th, 2009 at 5:31 pm
MR, Gruden didn’t go into that. However, he said Al did much to further his coaching ability, as did
John Madden, Tom Flores, Art Shell, et al have said.
December 15th, 2009 at 5:32 pm
Oh, now Gruden “didn’t go into that”? So, Gruden actually did not name any specific thing he learned from Al Davis? So then, how could you say that “Gruden learned a lot from Al DAvis”? You were making it up, weren’t you?
December 15th, 2009 at 5:33 pm
R8eray, you are a priick. Wishing a man’s death over a football team? You are a phoney!
December 15th, 2009 at 5:33 pm
LMN,
I always give Al a freebie on first round cuz I know he’ll do some crazy stupid schytt
but Robiskie hasnt done anything in Cleve which is amazing considering they have no talent down there. I think Murphy is a good tradeoff for Robiskie.
DHB…god help us. The guy has no route running skills, no hands, and no quickness. he’s just not a natural football player. Nothing more than Alvis Whitted. Even James Jett could catch bombs.
December 15th, 2009 at 5:33 pm
Gruden was perfect for al until he started complaining about the roster. A young up an comer with a shorten version of the gilman coryel offense, now called the west coast offense. Passing offense built for scoring and quick strikes. Gruden wont be here, so who fits the mold now.
December 15th, 2009 at 5:34 pm
MR, not at all. Those were his words, but he did not describe for the audience what his liabilities might have been when he was initially hired.
December 15th, 2009 at 5:36 pm
I have more confidence in DHB’s career than Russell’s and maybe even Darren.
Although McFadden looked a lot better last week,I was impressed for once, his rushing stats still look like crap.
December 15th, 2009 at 5:36 pm
al davis is the greatest owner in sports. he will make things right. im sick of u morons saying u want mike vick . he is not a decent qb. and then u guys say we shoulda drafted crabtree. why ? jruss couldnt get him the ball. and crabtree hates the raiders. al just needs a decent coach. although tom cable can become 1 . he should remain a offensive line coach 4 now.
December 15th, 2009 at 5:36 pm
Captain Black, when did Gruden actually say that Al made him a better coach? I don’t even recall Gruden ever saying that. And I know Gruden never said he learned any specific thing about the modern day NFL from Al Davis. Nothing of the sort. You flat out made that up. Jon Gruden learned a lot from Al Davis? Pffft. Yeh, right. Like what NOT to do.
December 15th, 2009 at 5:36 pm
@91 – She was 96 I believe.
December 15th, 2009 at 5:37 pm
Mistic, Gruden should have a say who is on the roster. He is accountable for the performance of the team.
December 15th, 2009 at 5:37 pm
No.. I’m not a phoney! I’ve been a die hard fan for over 25 years, and I’m sure all of Raider Nation is tired of this same old sh*t (as myself) we see year in and year out!! It’s time for a change!
PS
Thank you Al for all your years with this organization, and everything you have done for the NFL!!
December 15th, 2009 at 5:38 pm
Al Davis is the greatest owner in sports? He just set an NFL record last Sunday of 7 straight losing seasons. If Al’s the best, that means the rest are better than the best. Why put other owners on such high of a pedestal by saying Al’s the best? LOL.
December 15th, 2009 at 5:38 pm
Just a note. If Losman starts Sunday, it probably says even more about what the Raiders think of Frye than it does about Russell.
December 15th, 2009 at 5:39 pm
If Losman plays over Frye, it would also be an admission on the Raiders part that they played 3/4 of the season with 2 of their 3 QB’s on the roster not even belonging in the NFL.
That’s truly embarrassing.
December 15th, 2009 at 5:40 pm
MR, I told you it would be pointless to have this discussion with you. Gruden spoke of Al many years ago. I have nothing to gain by protecting AD.
December 15th, 2009 at 5:40 pm
I agree with #106.
Frye deserves the right to fail.
December 15th, 2009 at 5:40 pm
The signing of Losman better not mean Fassel is going be hired ahead of Gruden next year.
Which knowing the moronic a$$ backwards old man Al….it probably does mean Fassel IS going to be hired.
Sheesh….
Real exciting huh?
December 15th, 2009 at 5:42 pm
Captain, what you call a pointless discussion, I call you telling a flat out lie, and me calling you on it. You lied. You said Gruden learned a lot from Al Davis, when you know Gruden didn’t learn one single thing from Al, other than what not to do. Don’t get mad at me for keeping you honest.
December 15th, 2009 at 5:42 pm
the recieving core is great/ murphy , scillens & dhb in slot. dangerous. need a qb 6`3 or taller that can command the pocket. tony pike. ryan mallet. jimmmy clausen . tim tebow . jake locker . somebody will be available ind 2nd round
December 15th, 2009 at 5:42 pm
R8eray, because you are a fan does not give you license to wish death on a man over a football team. Yes, I guess you could on a blog like this, but it really diminshes you as a person.
December 15th, 2009 at 5:43 pm
If you’ve got nothing to gain in defending Al Davis, Captain Liar, stop making things up to make him look good.
December 15th, 2009 at 5:43 pm
http://walterfootball.com/draft2010_2.php
December 15th, 2009 at 5:43 pm
Fassell and Losman are champions.
December 15th, 2009 at 5:44 pm
MR, I have nothing to gain. You have proved nothing. Gruden obviously did not care to reveal any of his youthful shortcomings. Give Al credit. He has done much good in his lifetime.
December 15th, 2009 at 5:45 pm
Everyone should just chill. We need a 3rd QB. Losman is an obvious choice for it. He’s in playing shape due to UFL. Frye will start Sunday. The guy that a lot of you were calling for before Bruce Almighty.
December 15th, 2009 at 5:45 pm
MR, come lets not act like a child.
December 15th, 2009 at 5:46 pm
Captain Black, you’ve got nothing to gain defending Al Davis, yet all you’ve done in here today is defend him. First you lie about Gruden learning “a lot” from him (LOL), and now you’re going after someone because they told a joke about Al dying. Get real.
December 15th, 2009 at 5:46 pm
the real maddenraider , the great al davis doesnt have to prove anything 2 u . the best owner in pro soprts will have his day in the sun .
December 15th, 2009 at 5:46 pm
Instead of Captain Liar, how about Captain Black, Captain Fantastic, or Captain America?
December 15th, 2009 at 5:48 pm
Captain Black, this is Al’s 7th straight losing season. According to industry standards, he loses his job as an NFL GM 4 years ago. I don’t care how much good Davis has done in the past. He now stands in the way of the Raiders being a good team again. He’s a cancer.
December 15th, 2009 at 5:48 pm
I like Walter Football for the mock drafts. They had us picking Louis Murphy in the 2nd last year.
This is what it said on first round:
Oakland Raiders: Bruce Campbell, OT, Maryland
There are only four possibilities here: Ryan Mallett, Taylor Mays, Carlos Dunlap and Bruce Campbell.
Al Davis loves drafting athletes and needs a left tackle. Bruce Campbell is 6-7, 310, and has a good chance of running a 4.9. If Al is awake and sees this at the Combine, he may think Campbell is the best offensive tackle of all time.
Pick change; previously Ryan Mallett, QB
December 15th, 2009 at 5:48 pm
MR, why are you the Real MaddenRaider? The John Madden hired by Al Davis? Silly man, trix are for kids
December 15th, 2009 at 5:49 pm
CaptainBlack Says:
December 15th, 2009 at 5:42 pm
R8eray, because you are a fan does not give you license to wish death on a man over a football team. Yes, I guess you could on a blog like this, but it really diminshes you as a person.
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His time is done here with this organization!!
I”ve thanked him for all he has done!
Someone (his son) needs to put him in a retirement home, have someone competent (sane) run the Raiders!!
December 15th, 2009 at 5:50 pm
Dorian,
No way Dunlap lasts into 2nd round. Highly rated DE from Florida SEC doesnt last to 2nd round. I think he is gone in first round. I’d rather have one of those DT’s from Ole Miss. Gerald Powe is a beast.
December 15th, 2009 at 5:51 pm
MR, true. But I see things changing for the better. I am pissed off too about the last seven years, but Al will make it right. I sense change in the force.
December 15th, 2009 at 5:53 pm
R8eray, Al owns the Raiders. So how can his time be done? Do you own a car? A house? I am coming over to take it. You time using them is done. You wouldn’t mind that! Of course you wouldn’t.
December 15th, 2009 at 5:54 pm
I’ll edit better the next time
December 15th, 2009 at 5:57 pm
I’m not insane in the brain.. I got a car and still know how to drive. I have a house and keep up with everything. Everyone here is happy, i’m doing a good job here! The kids are happy the wife is happy the whole family is happy!!
I don’t know if you could say that about the Raider fans and players!!!
December 15th, 2009 at 5:57 pm
[...] the Raiders-Redskins game Sunday. Fassel was a Raiders offensive assistant in 1994." from Contra Costa Times __________________ Props to 86Ward for the [...]
December 15th, 2009 at 5:58 pm
# JT Says:
December 15th, 2009 at 5:05 pm
Interesting story about Gruden reunion at Ricky’s. This has all the makings of Gruden making himself endearing to Al Davis. If he comes back to Oakland, he already has a QB he drafted in Tampa, Gradkowski. Also Paul Hacket, who coached in Tampa with Gruden, is already in place, and seemed to make Gradkowski into a interesting NFL prospect…
Losman, he is also a type of QB Gruden might play. Mobile type.
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Agreed! Some pieces are already in place from Gruden to come in and takeover. Gruden can keep Hackett as his QB coach/offensive assistant and he can bring in his own O-Line coach, his own WR coach, his own RB coach and OC.
Gruden has worked with Hackett and Grads before and they can make a trade with his pal Andy Reid in Philly to get the vet QB in Vick.
Vick will play well under Gruden IMO since he has already got his feet wet in a WC style offense and WildCat formations with Reid in Philly. Gruden and Reid run similar offenses and Gruden will implement and utilize the WildCat, since he has gushed about it so much on MNF, and you know he will use it with Vick, DMC, Bush and Fargas around.
Jon Gruden needs to be HIRED and brought back home!
The old man needs to restructure down Russells contract or just cut him and use 4-5 million of that to get Gruden back!
December 15th, 2009 at 5:58 pm
I’m out.. I got a job to do!!
December 15th, 2009 at 6:00 pm
r8eray, keep those toilets clean
December 15th, 2009 at 6:02 pm
R8eray, you better be sure the wife is happy. That’s not what she told me last night during the long stroke. Who knew?
December 15th, 2009 at 6:03 pm
Are we getting any more from Jerry tonight?
Had the live chat and a few updates, nah probably not.
I think I’m checking out as well.
Losman and Fassell in 2010, you know who told you.
December 15th, 2009 at 6:04 pm
And now I must get back to my job, taking care of R8eray’s wife. Who knew?
December 15th, 2009 at 6:05 pm
to the RealMaddenRaiderHATER!!!
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shut the f*ck up! why are you so f*cken negative! hope you hit a patch of ice on the highway and slide of the road! GO RAIDERS!
December 15th, 2009 at 6:06 pm
Losman is an excellent signing. It gives him the remainder of this year to get to know his receivers.
This is the type of veteran I was hoping the Raiders would bring in. Here’s a guy looking for a 2nd chance. A guy who was at one time considered a talent but slipped. He’s got the arm strength and flashed talent in Buffalo. Let’s get him a head coach (Jim Fassell would be an excellent choice) and lets get started in the offseason.
See ya Russell. Gradkowski will have some honest competition…which is a GREAT thing. Frye…who cares.
Now, all of this may mean nothing because of the owner and his total ineptness. But we have to roll the dice.
Fassell may just figure out how to get Bush and DMAC the ball. The offense will be a professional one and Losman will do his part and push Gradkowski to get better or push him to the bench.
December 15th, 2009 at 6:07 pm
J.P. Losman, traveler, adventurer, pirate: http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.thestencil.com/archives/images/jpdowntown.bmp&imgrefurl=http://www.thestencil.com/archives/2007/03/jps_vision_ques.html&h=253&w=390&sz=290&tbnid=atYDS8HLCUagEM:&tbnh=80&tbnw=123&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dj.p.%2Blosman&usg=__YrGFC4hs5fmZUmXLHZam5T-bjm4=&ei=c0AoS9qMEMGAnQf-9LmfDQ&sa=X&oi=image_result&resnum=12&ct=image&ved=0CDYQ9QEwCw
December 15th, 2009 at 6:07 pm
In the offseason, we could be seeing Losman, Grad and Frye battling for a starting job. I’ll take that over Alex Smith, JR, or a rookie QB any day. there is no way in hell they will pay JR 9.5 mil next season. he will be retained at a lower price but most likely he will tell Al he wants out of Oaktown.
His posse will tell him that he’s been disrepected…Good Riddance baby!!!!
December 15th, 2009 at 6:08 pm
J.P. Losman, drummer: http://www.buffalodrumoutlet.com/20050402/jp_losman-opt.jpg
December 15th, 2009 at 6:09 pm
Al loves to collect other people’s first rounders.
December 15th, 2009 at 6:09 pm
J.P. Losman, ladies man: http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/deadspin/2008/12/jp2.jpg
December 15th, 2009 at 6:09 pm
Keep it coming Al.
December 15th, 2009 at 6:10 pm
Vegas Raider,
I like the Losman pick. I hope its Fassell next year. At least he’s a pro and has done it before at a high level.
Cable is a rank amateur and he needs to be removed with immediate effect.
Fassell figured out a way to share carries between Tiki Barber and Ron Dayne…..He took a team to the Super Bowl…..
We would be lucky to get Fassell in here. At least we won’t have to worry about the ZBS and the rank amateur games Cable plays with the roster.
December 15th, 2009 at 6:12 pm
Jp losman looks like rob johnson to me for some reason, both from socal.
December 15th, 2009 at 6:13 pm
I hope Al does not selct Fassel as HC. We can do better. I’d take Gilbride.
December 15th, 2009 at 6:14 pm
J.P. Losman is already the Raiders hunkiest QB ever.
December 15th, 2009 at 6:16 pm
Raiders @ NE, snow game is on ESPN@ right now…..
December 15th, 2009 at 6:17 pm
but most likely he will tell Al he wants out of Oaktown.
His posse will tell him that he’s been disrepected…
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LMFAO!
Well at least we have another 1st rnd QB talent added to the roster. Wouldn’t it just make too much sense to bring Fassell in to go with Losman.
December 15th, 2009 at 6:17 pm
Gruden looks sooooo young, lol
December 15th, 2009 at 6:17 pm
In 2006 Losman threw for 3,000 yards and completed 62% of his passes…19 TDS 14Ints
Hey, its a start. This guy knows the bottom….was a 1st rounder, cut, had to go to the UFL….he is hungry for a 2nd chance and will work hard.
And he should be had for a very inexpensive contract.
Next up…get rid of this ZBS Offensive Line
December 15th, 2009 at 6:17 pm
wtf
December 15th, 2009 at 6:18 pm
Does anybody here think Fassel can beat Phillip Rivers & Co?
We need a coach that can actually make us competitive in the AFC West
Like Gruden did
December 15th, 2009 at 6:18 pm
espn2
December 15th, 2009 at 6:19 pm
J.P. Losman interview. He can speak coherently. http://unitedfootballleagues.com/video/ufl-high-school-memories-with-jp-losman
December 15th, 2009 at 6:19 pm
We can do better than a guy with Head Coaching experience who also went to a Super Bowl? I wouldn’t have said Fassell before bringing Losman on board, but there is a relationship there, so it at least brings him in the running.
December 15th, 2009 at 6:20 pm
CaptainBlack Says:
December 15th, 2009 at 6:13 pm
I hope Al does not selct Fassel as HC. We can do better. I’d take Gilbride.
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Take a step back. Fassell is the best pick that Al Davis can get because of the Owner’s incompetence, meddling and all around stubborness.
Fassell went to a Super Bowl, he managed a good running game and oversaw a good defense. Now he will have to work for Davis…so some of his effectiveness will be lost..
But all the Raiders need right now is a PROFESSIONAL COACH that knows how to set up a roster and evaluate talent. Cable is a disaster!
December 15th, 2009 at 6:20 pm
J.P. Lossman is the next Kurt Warner.
December 15th, 2009 at 6:21 pm
Unless we upgrade the Oline, and get some LBs who can tackle, we won’t be beating the Chargers anytime soon no matter who the coach is.
December 15th, 2009 at 6:21 pm
860Todd Christensen Says:
December 15th, 2009 at 6:16 pm
Raiders @ NE, snow game is on ESPN@ right now…..
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860,
Are you trying to make me break my new lcd all over again?
December 15th, 2009 at 6:22 pm
I also like the idea of trying to free Marshawn Lynch from Buffalo for Bush and a 3rd rd pick.
December 15th, 2009 at 6:22 pm
All that Al Davis needs to know is this:
Get a coach that can actually beat the Chargers.
December 15th, 2009 at 6:22 pm
JT Says:
December 15th, 2009 at 6:18 pm
Does anybody here think Fassel can beat Phillip Rivers & Co?
We need a coach that can actually make us competitive in the AFC West
Like Gruden did
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The current team almost beat SD twice with …..JaWalrus at the helm!!!!! So long as we dont start JaWalrus next year, we will beat them.
December 15th, 2009 at 6:23 pm
Lol, no bro, I feel your pain, but it’s good to see some good Raider football again, even in the snow! lol
December 15th, 2009 at 6:25 pm
If Davis rightfully fires Coach Cable, then Bush will naturally win the position and all should be ok.
Bush has not disappointed when playing. He’s been jobbed by Cable and his pettiness and absolute devotion to Fargas.
Fassell will fix that real quick. Bush will pound the rock and DMAC will be used in a professional manner.
Fargas will be the 3rd string option.
December 15th, 2009 at 6:25 pm
Even Gannon looks young, omg, am I gettin old?
December 15th, 2009 at 6:26 pm
hey anyone been to Ricky’s in San Leandro?
December 15th, 2009 at 6:28 pm
860, you know you getting old when your friends kids are graduating from highschool. That shcytt is happening to me now.
December 15th, 2009 at 6:28 pm
I found this interview on Buccaneers.com re: Gruden learning from Davis. Not anything specific though. Still looking simply because I’m curious.
http://bbs.buccaneers.com/showthread.php?t=40568
About 1/3 of the way down the page…
“P: Later, Davis said you were “pretty green” when he made you the leagues youngest head coach. “Jon Gruden learned a lot here”, he said.
G: I’m still green. And I am respectful of Al Davis. I owe him a great deal, and I’m still learning. The minute I stop learning, this league’s wild bulls will trample all over me.”
I don’t have a horse in this argument. It was just something I found curious, so started searching.
December 15th, 2009 at 6:29 pm
Aig, my son is in secong year of college, he’s aging me! lol
December 15th, 2009 at 6:29 pm
second
December 15th, 2009 at 6:30 pm
holy cow bro. You are old. Where is zip 860?
December 15th, 2009 at 6:32 pm
[...] Read more. [...]
December 15th, 2009 at 6:32 pm
nevermind just googled it.
December 15th, 2009 at 6:32 pm
Ct, in snow game, our o-line shut down NE and Gannon had hours to throw the ball! AL, show this on the projector!
December 15th, 2009 at 6:32 pm
Also notice…Losman is not a WCO QB. Cable and Russell’s days are numbered.
And they shoould be. Both of them, with Davis’ blessing and most stupid decision making, has brought the Raider franchise to its collective knees
December 15th, 2009 at 6:34 pm
James Jett = TD! RAIDERS!
December 15th, 2009 at 6:35 pm
Scotty Harris, int!
December 15th, 2009 at 6:36 pm
INT!!!! Yeah boy!
December 15th, 2009 at 6:37 pm
Gannon could really read a D!
December 15th, 2009 at 6:37 pm
Hey is Lincoln kennedy available in free agency? lol
December 15th, 2009 at 6:39 pm
Eric Allen breaks up td play, way to go!
December 15th, 2009 at 6:40 pm
Michael Vick was terrible in the West Coast Offense…why does anybody think he’d be great here? He is more of a spread offense and an option guy and his 1st instinct is to run. He’s more like McFadden than anything else.
December 15th, 2009 at 6:41 pm
Derrick Gibson, what a dumbazz.
LOL at Papa’s call, “he’s from Florida State!!”
December 15th, 2009 at 6:42 pm
860Todd Christensen Says:
December 15th, 2009 at 6:37 pm
Gannon could really read a D!
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This and leadership are two most important things for a QB imo. You look at guys like Akili Smith, Mike Vick, Jeff George, Drew Bledsoe, Ryan Leaf, and JR and you figure they all have 1 thing in common…a strong arm.
But guys like Brees and Gannon have a much better career than those guys cuz they can dissect a D and lead the troops.
December 15th, 2009 at 6:42 pm
If you ever heard Derrick Gibson speak, you wouldnt be surprised. To think we passed on Todd Heap for him. Gruden wanted Todd Heap. Al wanted D Gibson.
December 15th, 2009 at 6:43 pm
24, my take is WCO is out, Raider Smash-Mouth is back in, lets see what the silver fox has in store for the draft.
December 15th, 2009 at 6:48 pm
Seabass kick, GOOD! Rdrs 13 NE 3!
December 15th, 2009 at 6:54 pm
WHY WOULD GRUDEN WANT THE RAIDER JOB ? A LOT MORE STRESS AND A CUT IN PAY..
December 15th, 2009 at 6:56 pm
If Holmgren becomes the G.M. of the Browns, its very possible that Gruden goes there. Does he keep Rob Ryan? Haha.
December 15th, 2009 at 6:56 pm
Dirt- Lot, Maybe unfinished business?
December 15th, 2009 at 7:02 pm
Losman is an excellent pick. If this guy learned his lessons and is willing to work….the Raiders might have their QB for the next 10 years
Former 1st round pick from an organization that has problems.
Could be that diamond in the rough. Fassell worked on his fundamentals.
Davis should hire Fassell right now and fire cable with immediate effect. Then the Raiders could move on and move forward
December 15th, 2009 at 7:04 pm
We have one of the worst teams in the NFL, with a young talent pool that is ready to turn the corner, with leadership that is questionable at least, a good commander could turn this team around and we are contenders, we are not that far off! We need one good draft to the lines!
December 15th, 2009 at 7:05 pm
When Gruden names one specific thing he’s learned from Al Davis, I’ll believe what he said isn’t just lip service. Captain jack off said that Gruden learned “a lot” from Al Davis. He hasn’t named one thing. And, neither has Gruden. Just that he “learned” from Al. And, the interviewer was the one who accentuated the point. What was Gruden supposed to do, fight with him? Gruden obviously just rolled with it.
December 15th, 2009 at 7:08 pm
aig, you know who you should see speak, if you want to see someone speak who’s impossible to understand, and sounds like he doesn’t even know what planet he’s on half the time? Al Davis. You know, “god”.
December 15th, 2009 at 7:19 pm
Mr, you just missed Tuck Rule game on espn 2, Raiders are always taken out of games by the officals, when is congress going to look into the injustices done to our team? When Al dies?
December 15th, 2009 at 7:22 pm
CaptainJackOff don’t know sh*t!! I agree with you RealMaddenRaider!!
December 15th, 2009 at 7:23 pm
U MAY BE CORRECT 860TODD CHRISTENSEN,WOULD BE A GREAT CHAPTER IN RAIDER HISTORY IF GRUDEN RETURNED AND TURNED THE ORGANISATION AROUND,DO NOT SEE IT THOUGH,GRUDEN FINISHED HIS BUISNESS,WAS WEARING A TAMPA BAY CAP WHEN HE FINISHED IT….
December 15th, 2009 at 7:23 pm
I was at the game when Blackman was paralyzed, you could of heard a pin drop, they have been after the Raiders ever since!
December 15th, 2009 at 7:26 pm
Dirt-Lot, Even the Beatles left the door open, time passes, hurt feelings heal, christ, after 19 years I can actually talk to my ex-wife in a nornal conversation again, so who knows! lol
December 15th, 2009 at 7:27 pm
What up Nation? Man the offseason has arrived.
This move is just the first of a series of moves I think ol Al has up his sleeves.
This move says Frye will start this Sunday. J.P. will be 3rd QB. J.P. will begin his learning of everything Hackett has to offer because Hackett will be retained for next year.
Cable is gone. He will get fired very soon after the season. A new Coach will be named about 3 days later. I see Al negotiating with Fassel behind closed doors now. I wouldn’t rule out Gruden.
J.P. will have a 3 week jump on learning, although a new playbook will come with the new coach.
Frye starts last 3 games to see if it will be he or Gradkowski staying for next year. It won’t be both. Grad had his audition so now it’s Frye’s turn. Frye looks good last 3, he stays Grad goes. He doesn’t, Grad stays, Frye out. J.P. and JaMarcus are on team next year which tells me Fassel is the guy because he coached that statue Kerry Collins.
Draft, Al goes heavy with trench guys on both side of ball to build wall for QB and stop run.
December 15th, 2009 at 7:28 pm
Raiders v Bucks, now on espn2…..
December 15th, 2009 at 7:28 pm
Gruden is not coming here. Its funny that some of you actually think that’s possible.
Fassell will get here and at least be competent.
QB Losmnan
RB Bush
RB2 DMAC
FB Draft Pick
WR Schilens
WR Murphy
WR JLH
TE Miller
LT Henderson
LG Gallery – with strong backup
C Draft Pick
RG Draft Pick
RT Draft Pick
Fassell will get this offense to competent…which will be light years ahead of this madness we are subjected to every Sunday
December 15th, 2009 at 7:34 pm
With all the O-Linemen hitting free agency we ill grab about two good ones. That will mean we draft a DT with the 1st rounder (Mt. Cody or McCoy). 2nd round will be MLB.
I know our record sucks and it appears we need help everywhere but Al don’t see it that way. I bet he’s thinking these are the positions we don’t draft until round 7:
QB, RB, WR, TE, Safety.
So we looking at OL, DL, LB, CB.
December 15th, 2009 at 7:39 pm
504,
No one knows what Davis will do. He will mess up the 1st pick or two anyways.
However, he should draft:
1. DT
2. LB
3. RT
4. RG/C
5. C/RG
6. FB
7. RG
December 15th, 2009 at 7:41 pm
SnB, No Monster NT?
December 15th, 2009 at 7:42 pm
That would allow 3 man front.
December 15th, 2009 at 7:43 pm
Rd 1 – Okung
Rd 2 – Best available OG or C
Rd 3 – Best available C or OG
Rd 3 – Best available CB/KR
Rd 4 – NT
December 15th, 2009 at 7:44 pm
860Todd Christensen Says:
December 15th, 2009 at 7:23 pm
I was at the game when Blackman was paralyzed, you could of heard a pin drop, they have been after the Raiders ever since!
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Let’s correct the name it was “Darryl Stingley.
December 15th, 2009 at 7:45 pm
860Todd Christensen Says:
December 15th, 2009 at 7:41 pm
SnB, No Monster NT?
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Absolutely we need a monster NT.
1st round pick SHOULD be that guy.
Of course, Davis will pick the cornerback from Florida or some B.S like that because he has no clue
December 15th, 2009 at 7:45 pm
no draft. d tackle. t cody
qb= ryan mallet or pike
linebacker
linebacker
right tackle
December 15th, 2009 at 7:46 pm
Dell, it was Blackman at Foxborow, 25 yds away, will never forget it….
December 15th, 2009 at 7:47 pm
Davis has not clue is right.
The game is won on the line.
And you draft from film study, not 40 times.
December 15th, 2009 at 7:48 pm
terreance cody. raiders first round!
tony pike second round.
linebackers linebackers , fukkin linebackers!!
December 15th, 2009 at 7:48 pm
Raiders should trade up to get Suh.
Trade the 1st and 2nd to move up a few spots.
That would be the move.
D-Line of Shaughnessy, Kelly, Suh, Seymour with Scott interchanging between LB and DE…..nice
But Davis will get that speedy cornerback that will bust out in 3 or 4 years
December 15th, 2009 at 7:49 pm
but real talk. u know 1 dem safeties gonna drop to our spot so… be honest , we gonna get either berryu or mays right ?
December 15th, 2009 at 7:49 pm
Dorian, 3 man front and LB’s like great whites!!!!
December 15th, 2009 at 7:53 pm
860Todd Christensen Says:
December 15th, 2009 at 7:46 pm
Dell, it was Blackman at Foxborow, 25 yds away, will never forget it….
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What was his full name and what year did this happen?
December 15th, 2009 at 7:56 pm
aig Says:
December 15th, 2009 at 5:50 pm
Dorian,
No way Dunlap lasts into 2nd round. Highly rated DE from Florida SEC doesnt last to 2nd round. I think he is gone in first round. I’d rather have one of those DT’s from Ole Miss. Gerald Powe is a beast.
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Is Powe coming out? That dude is real. I remember his big dumbo a$$ at one of those High School All Star games and he puts on a LSU hat and says he’s comitted there. Then his ACT score was about 3 points lower than his shoe size and LSU backed off. He ended up at Ole Miss. Last year Peria Jerry was a 1st rounder for Atlanta I think and it was Powe who blew up plays and freed Jerry up to make them. We could get Powe in 2nd rnd.
December 15th, 2009 at 7:57 pm
Christensen doesn’t like Al. Al screwed him, too. Told Todd he would be the man, so he wouldn’t sign elsewhere, then cut him after the other teams already filled their TE spots. Todd talked about it on that ‘83 Raiders America’s Team documentary.
December 15th, 2009 at 7:58 pm
Dell, honestly would have to look it up, 82 or 83 I think, too many games and so long ago, fan since 64 here, but the hit, the no movement, I believe he passed away a few years ago, was very sombering. Check the Pats RIP page, should be on there.
December 15th, 2009 at 8:01 pm
Davis will draft Patrick Robertson because he’s a cornerback with a fast 40x
December 15th, 2009 at 8:02 pm
Todd played injured last few years in league, never winced, always a true Raider. He stood tall amoungst real men in the real football league. That league is truely missed, men like Todd are truely missed. We now have the league of JR’s, high pay, no production, endorcements for nothing but a draft pick, it’s sickening!
December 15th, 2009 at 8:09 pm
860
Was the Patriot player on offense or defense? Was it Don Blackmon.
December 15th, 2009 at 8:14 pm
IMHO, No person entering the NFL should earn more than $200,000 for the first 3 years of their contract, guarenteed for 3 years, til they prove themselves to their team, and coming up to NFL speed. After that, give them the big contract if they prove themselves. These punks coming out of college in their junior years haven’t proved to anyone anything? Sponsors, Hype, ESPN, the lot of them, make these idiots bigger than Tiger Woods Christmas list. What have they done to earn 65 million dollar contracts that guys IN the league don’t even earn? Buy a fur coat and show up late….
December 15th, 2009 at 8:15 pm
Dell, YES!
December 15th, 2009 at 8:20 pm
Believe Tatum hit him!
December 15th, 2009 at 8:26 pm
Blackmon was selected by the New England Patriots in the 4th round of the 1981 NFL Draft. A 6′3″. 235 lbs. linebacker from the University of Tulsa, Blackmon played his entire NFL career for the Patriots. He started 72-of-89 games and recorded 541 tackles, 30.5 sacks, and five INT’s before being forced to retire after a neck injury in a game against the Raiders in 1987. He was on the Patriots AFC title team in 1986. Blackmon was a three time all-conference selection at the Tulsa and has been named to the school’s Hall of Fame.
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Blackmon was never paralyzed, just had paralysis on the field. Living healthy life today.Blackmon was DC for the New York Sentinels (2009)
Did my research, you were short a few years. The only New England player to be paralyzed was darryl Stingley.
December 15th, 2009 at 8:31 pm
I stand corrected Dell, glad to hear he is ok, I was there when he left the field, was not a good feeling. Although I live in New England, I do not follow the Pats or Boston Patriots in any way. Red Sox, Celtics, Raiders, Sharks here! Loyal to all, I see the Raiders every time they are in the NE coridor.
December 15th, 2009 at 8:31 pm
I would be cool with Fassel coming on as Head Coach.
Was for him getting the job over Cable to start with.
Hopefully, if hired, Fassel would bring this guy with him from Vegas…
Donald Eck joins the Las Vegas Locomotives as Offensive Line Coach. He is reunited with Coach Jim Fassel where he first served as Fassel’s graduate assistant and then offensive line coach at the University of Utah.
This past season, Eck served as Offensive Line Coach at Weber State University. Prior to Weber State, Eck spent five seasons coaching in NFL Europe with the Rhein Fire and Berlin Thunder. While in Berlin, the 2004 Thunder team posted a 9-1 record and won the World Bowl with Eck acting as both offensive coordinator and offensive line coach. Under Eck’s direction, the Thunder had the top offensive team in almost every category. Eck began his NFL Europe career in 2003 with the Scottish Claymores and led the team’s offense to a league best.
While working with Coach Fassel at Utah, Eck’s offensive line protected quarterback Scott Mitchell during an era which saw the Utes lead NCAA Division I in passing and ranked third in total offense. He coached the Utes through the 1989 season before moving to Arizona as assistant offensive line coach. Eck also had coaching stints at James Madison University and the University of Utah.
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NO MORE ZONE BLOCKING CRAP!
Fassel also had this former Raider coach on his staff and it would be a HUGE upgrade over the PIECE OF SH*T we have now…
Michael Wilson joins the Las Vegas Locomotives as Wide Receivers Coach. Affiliated with the NFL for over 25 years as a coach and a player, Wilson earned four national titles winning Super Bowl XVI, XIX, XXIII and XXIV as a member of the San Francisco 49ers. He most recen tly served as assistant wide receivers coach for the Arizona Cardinals.
During his four years with the Cardinals (2003-07), Wilson was instrumental in developing Anquan Bolding and Larry Fitzgerald into 2006 Pro-Bowl receivers with both players having over 100 receptions for more than 1,400 yards apiece. The duo became only the second receiving tandem in NFL history to accomplish this feat. As part of the NFL’s Minority Internship program, in 2003, Wilson worked with the Washington Redskins during the team’s training camp. As assistant wide receivers coach at the University of Southern California from 1997-2001, he assisted in game plan preparation and coordination of passing game along with video breakdowns.
Wilson began coaching in the NFL during the 1995-96 season where he developed the wide receivers core for the Los Angeles/Oakland Raiders. He also mentored Pro-Bowl player Tim Brown during that time. Wilson’s first coaching job began in 1992 at Stanford University where he served as assistant wide receivers and tight ends coach. During Wilson’s time at Stanford, three tight-ends and four receivers advanced to the NFL.
Following his successful collegiate football career at Washington State, Wilson was selected by the Dallas Cowboys in the ninth round of the 1981 NFL Draft. Upon his release by the Cowboys during the preseason, he joined the 49ers where he was mentored by several accomplished coaches—Dennis Green, Bill Walsh, George Seifert, Sam Wyche, and Mike Holmgren. During his stay with San Francisco, the 49ers won four World Championships, appeared in six NFC title games, and won eight NFC West crowns. He is one of only three wide receivers in NFL history to own four Super Bowl rings. In addition, Wilson was honored as San Francisco’s 1987 Ed Block Courage award winner. A native of Los Angeles, Wilson was an all-city and all-American football and basketball standout at Carson High School leading his team to the city title as a senior in basketball.
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I LIKE IT.
FASSEL FOR HEAD COACH!
December 15th, 2009 at 8:33 pm
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No problem, was never trying to embarass you like some on here. I was just surprised to read another player hurt by a Raider player that caused paralysis.
December 15th, 2009 at 8:39 pm
Fassel is a much better coach than a lot of people recognize.
– He won 3 NFC East division championships in 7 years with the Giants. In 3 of the other years they were OK, hovering in the 7-9, 8-8 range. The only lousy year was his last one when they were completely decimated by injuries and finished 4-12.
– NFL Coach of the Year in 1997 in his rookie season after taking a team that finished 5-11 and 6-10 the two previous seasons to a 10-5-1 record and division title (with Danny Kanell at QB).
– Resurrected the career of former No. 5 overall pick Kerry Collins. Collins was never nearly as good before or since playing for Fassel.
– Took the Giants to the Super Bowl after making his famous “this team is going to the playoffs” mid-season guarantee in 2000.
– Prominent in developing Phil Simms, John Elway, Jeff Hostetler and Collins.
– When fired by the Giants he was fully expected to land another head coaching job before long. Got caught up in some bad luck with waves of Hall of Fame coaches coming back and another wave of hiring extremely young coaches being in vogue. Was supposed to get the Redskins job instead of Zorn but Snyder pulled the rug out on him at the last minute. Was a finalist for the Rams job this past off-season that went to Spagnuolo.
– Won the UFL championship in November. Not that prestigous, but it’s worth noting that most of the guys in that league have spent time in the NFL and several have landed NFL roster spots since its season ended. Plus he was coaching against three other veteran NFL coaches.
Most fans are hoping for a Gruden reunion. I am too. But Fassel would be an excellent fit in Oakland if the Gruden thing doesn’t pan out. He has the personality to get along with Al and blend in with the Raider way. He’s worked there before. He’s got a good track record working with QBs. He’s a proven winning NFL head coach unlike Cable, Kiffin, Norv, Callahan, etc. He wants the job. He’d bring instant credibility. And he still has something to prove. I know he’s been hungry to land a 2nd shot in the NFL for a long time.
December 15th, 2009 at 8:42 pm
Raider75,
Interesting stuff about those assistants. You may or may not remember that Fassel’s d-coordinator with the Giants was John Fox and his o-coordinator was a young Sean Payton. Fassel seems to have an excellent eye for coaching talent and surrounding himself with skilled coaches. Which is never bad.
December 15th, 2009 at 8:46 pm
Chris in NY Says:
December 15th, 2009 at 8:39 pm
Fassel is a much better coach than a lot of people recognize.
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I agree. He would bring some credibility to the Head Coach position in Oakland.
As stated above, if he brought in Donald Eck as O-line Coach and Michael Wilson as WR Coach, it would be instant upgrades over the staff now in place.
December 15th, 2009 at 8:46 pm
Dell, everything is good, like I said, time passes, things remembered becomes muddied, but the true spirit, the devotion to the things we believe in, brings out the true person that we are. We are all in here a family, thou dispersed, a family of Raider fans that want our family team to do well. As brothers, brothers argue, fight, and don’t always agree, but in times of hardship, come together and unite, re-bond, and in spirit, carry on the torch. Such is the life of a Raider fan, we will carry on our faith, as brothers!
December 15th, 2009 at 8:52 pm
Just think Chris, we could have had THAT staff this year.
Murphy and Schilens would be light-years ahead of where they are now with Wilson as a WR Coach.
Hell, maybe DHB would have 2 TDs. (Although I doubt it.)
December 15th, 2009 at 8:55 pm
75, DBH as a slot R is where he will excede expectations, IMO.
December 15th, 2009 at 8:59 pm
La Canfora of NFL Network reported that the Colts – who lost backup quarterback Jim Sorgi for the season — had contacted Losman last week, but the club has been unable to add another quarterback to due to an injured-depleted roster with a number of other holes to fill. Rookie Curtis Painter is currently listed as the team’s backup quarterback.
The Giants also had interest in Losman, a league source told La Canfora.
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Interesting.
I at least feel a little better about the signing considering a few other teams were looking at him.
However, the fact that teams like the Rams and Browns didn’t jump on him worries me a little bit.
December 15th, 2009 at 9:02 pm
Midnight here, in a 7 am, out 4 the night, nite all.
December 15th, 2009 at 9:12 pm
Means nothing. In Oakland, he’ll take orders. First of them being: Russell starts.
Real Madden, The NFL means Not For Long – see what Cable did. Fassel will do the same. Davis isnt a f%&king idiot. He wont keep a QB with 49 QB rating, PERIOD.
December 15th, 2009 at 9:16 pm
# doriangray Says:
December 15th, 2009 at 7:48 pm
terreance cody. raiders first round!
tony pike second round.
linebackers linebackers , fukkin linebackers!!
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No to Cody with a top 10 ten pick.
He is to overweight and is more of a two down player i the NFL who will get tired and not be on the field enough. He needs to lose serious weight and if he is taken within the top 10….he will have plenty of money to use on eating.
The Raiders don’t need another Juggs Russell on their hands.
December 15th, 2009 at 9:23 pm
# Chris in NY Says:
December 15th, 2009 at 8:39 pm
Fassel is a much better coach than a lot of people recognize.
– He won 3 NFC East division championships in 7 years with the Giants. In 3 of the other years they were OK, hovering in the 7-9, 8-8 range. The only lousy year was his last one when they were completely decimated by injuries and finished 4-12.
– NFL Coach of the Year in 1997 in his rookie season after taking a team that finished 5-11 and 6-10 the two previous seasons to a 10-5-1 record and division title (with Danny Kanell at QB).
– Resurrected the career of former No. 5 overall pick Kerry Collins. Collins was never nearly as good before or since playing for Fassel.
– Took the Giants to the Super Bowl after making his famous “this team is going to the playoffs” mid-season guarantee in 2000.
– Prominent in developing Phil Simms, John Elway, Jeff Hostetler and Collins.
– When fired by the Giants he was fully expected to land another head coaching job before long. Got caught up in some bad luck with waves of Hall of Fame coaches coming back and another wave of hiring extremely young coaches being in vogue. Was supposed to get the Redskins job instead of Zorn but Snyder pulled the rug out on him at the last minute. Was a finalist for the Rams job this past off-season that went to Spagnuolo.
– Won the UFL championship in November. Not that prestigous, but it’s worth noting that most of the guys in that league have spent time in the NFL and several have landed NFL roster spots since its season ended. Plus he was coaching against three other veteran NFL coaches.
Most fans are hoping for a Gruden reunion. I am too. But Fassel would be an excellent fit in Oakland if the Gruden thing doesn’t pan out. He has the personality to get along with Al and blend in with the Raider way. He’s worked there before. He’s got a good track record working with QBs. He’s a proven winning NFL head coach unlike Cable, Kiffin, Norv, Callahan, etc. He wants the job. He’d bring instant credibility. And he still has something to prove. I know he’s been hungry to land a 2nd shot in the NFL for a long time.
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Yeah not a big fan on Fassel ahead of Gruden thats for sure. Fassel may burn out faster and will probably be like another Norv Turner. Not a very inspired choice, but he can’t be any worse then Cable.
Can he??
More than likely since most of the fans want Gruden, the stubborn old man will go with Fassel just to spite the fans.
December 15th, 2009 at 9:34 pm
DKnight,
I wasn’t saying Fassel over Gruden. I was saying if Gruden isn’t an option because either he is staying at ESPN or him and Al don’t see eye to eye or whatever that Fassel is the next best choice.
Not fair to compare Fassel with Norv as a head coach. Through their first 7 seasons:
Fassel: 58-53-1; 1 coach of the year award; 3 playoff berths; 1 NFC championship.
Norv: 49-59-1; 1 playoff berth. (And that was all in Washington, before the Oakland debacle and underachieving SD years).
December 15th, 2009 at 9:34 pm
Swear to gawd I thought about Losman 2 days ago…weird…why him of all people? Jerry makes a case for A Fassel family reunion next year but seriously, if we’re going to hang our hat on Losman you can write off another season.
If Fassel comes to pass lets hope he does better then his sons Special Teams.
Yuck.
December 15th, 2009 at 9:37 pm
Who cares who the coach is if the schemes the same? Fug it, Monte Poole called him out, let Al take the plunge since he’s in charge anyway, if not, turn it loose to someone else. They can’t do much worse with a different scheme can they?
Hate hate hate to see another “rebuilding” year. Might actually give Cable another chance and hire some guys besides Randy Hanson to help.
December 15th, 2009 at 9:40 pm
No matter who comes in a as coach we NEED a strong veteran to take over the team ESPECIALLY ON OFFENSE to dot the I’s and cross the T’s. we need a vet baby sitter like a Ray Lewis type to kick azz and intimidate bishes into doing their jobs.
Sorely lacking the last few years…
December 15th, 2009 at 9:41 pm
I do think Bruce Almighty was looking awesome through 3.5 starts. And he was getting better each week. He absolutely has to be in the running for the starting job next season.
Now it’s time to see what Frye can do over these last three. Give him a look to decide where he fits in this picture. It’s enough time for him to also potentially compete for the starting job if he plays as well as Bruce.
Losman is worth kicking the tires on, I guess. I’ve never been real impressed with his game but he is a 1st-round talent and Fassel is a teriffic QB mentor. Bring him in here and let Hackett continue to work with him and who knows, he could be the unexpected breakout story of 2010.
December 15th, 2009 at 9:41 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
December 15th, 2009 at 5:04 pm
Well, at least the last of Gradkowski in Oakland. We might see him light us up in another uniform.
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suddenly you are telling us that Grads is someone to be afraid of, and is a qb worthy of respect
you mouse
December 15th, 2009 at 9:44 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
December 15th, 2009 at 5:46 pm
NOTHING
go away….you are not wanted
December 15th, 2009 at 9:44 pm
Oh, and I have a feeling we may never see JaMarcus start another game for the Raiders ever again. Of course, watch Cable come out tomorrow and name him the starter for the rest of the year.
December 15th, 2009 at 9:46 pm
MR…nobody likes you…why do you hang around here where “NOBODY LIKES YOU”?
December 15th, 2009 at 9:47 pm
hey “Nnamdi21″ . were you formally known as “Huff24″??
December 15th, 2009 at 9:47 pm
wow, look what happened since I left work.
December 15th, 2009 at 9:49 pm
Jamarcus is facing a life changing situation.
How he responds to it will be the defining moment for the rest of his life.
He is lucky and challenged beyond a young man’s abilities all at once.
Hopefully he responds.
December 15th, 2009 at 9:50 pm
Some one had a good question a bunch of posts up, but I didn’t see any responses to it.
It was…
” what did Fassel do that basically got him blackballed from the NFL.”
I remember something bad went down, but never really heard anything of it.
December 15th, 2009 at 9:50 pm
i not sure if the loseman signing is even worthy of news. he’ll be gone in three weeks.
December 15th, 2009 at 9:52 pm
I’m glad I’m not JaMarcus. 24-years-old and $30 million + in the bank and the chance to make many more millions playing a game for the next few years. Plus more fly-azz fur coats than he can count. Damn, kid has it rough.
December 15th, 2009 at 9:53 pm
Losman has more talent than any of our QB’s
December 15th, 2009 at 10:00 pm
# Chris in NY Says:
December 15th, 2009 at 9:34 pm
DKnight,
I wasn’t saying Fassel over Gruden. I was saying if Gruden isn’t an option because either he is staying at ESPN or him and Al don’t see eye to eye or whatever that Fassel is the next best choice.
Not fair to compare Fassel with Norv as a head coach. Through their first 7 seasons:
Fassel: 58-53-1; 1 coach of the year award; 3 playoff berths; 1 NFC championship.
Norv: 49-59-1; 1 playoff berth. (And that was all in Washington, before the Oakland debacle and underachieving SD years).
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Yeah well Fassel wouldn’t be an inspired choice, but like I said he can’t be any worse or as inconsistent as Cable is when it comes to preparing his team to play week in and week out, game planning, and play calling.
December 15th, 2009 at 10:05 pm
My dream is that one day the Raiders will draft an offensive tackle in the first round.
Sadly, my dream will never be fulfilled.
December 15th, 2009 at 10:05 pm
morilla Says:
December 15th, 2009 at 9:50 pm
Some one had a good question a bunch of posts up, but I didn’t see any responses to it.
It was…
” what did Fassel do that basically got him blackballed from the NFL.”
I remember something bad went down, but never really heard anything of it.
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I don’t think that’s the case. He was a finalist for the Redskins and Rams jobs in the last two years, so it’s not like he’s entirely off the radar.
I think he just got caught up in a bad time where there were these fad runs where teams wanted to hire Hall of Famers (Parcells, Gibbs, etc.) or complete unknown 30-somethings.
There was a little bad blood between him and Coughlin because when Coughlin took over the Giants Coughlin immediately said he wouldn’t be running a “country club” type atmosphere (implying Fassel was) and essentially blaming Fassel’s more laid back approach for the team having so many injuries in Fassel’s last season in NY. Fassel, from what I’ve heard from him in interviews in recent years, is still pissed about that and resents Coughlin for it. Incidentally, Coughlin was 6-10 in his first year in NY and the team was hit with about just as many injuries as they were in Fassel’s last year.
The only other scandalous thing I heard about Fassel was one time last year on an NY sports talk radio show when one of the on-air guys said basically he heard from a friend of a friend of a friend that the rumor in NFL circles is that Fassel likes to party maybe a little too much and that’s the real reason he hasn’t landed a job yet. But that’s really just wild speculation.
December 15th, 2009 at 10:07 pm
I think Jamarcus should pursue another sport after this season: COMPETITIVE EATING. Surely, he can win a Super BOWL there.
December 15th, 2009 at 10:16 pm
Chris In NY Says:
December 15th, 2009 at 10:05 pm
I don’t think that’s the case…..
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Thanks for the info, seems like you have the word on Fassel. The parting bit is kind of funny. Bring it back to the Snake days with guys out all night and being drunk at games, hahahaha.
Seems like a good idea stepping back from what we have in front of us. I guess we wait and see when the pieces fall into place for next year. I would rather have Gruden, and the stories/rumors that came out this week showed a glimmer of hope. But I Doubt it, Al would be bending too much. Who knows weirder stuff has happened.
I am just glad to see something happening. And yes, we Raider fans have been through situations like this before… But sh-t, one of these time it has to work out right. right?
December 15th, 2009 at 10:24 pm
OMG in the name of everything holy please get rid of that BUM russell he is the worst QB i’ve seen ever except maybe ryan leaf, Gradkowski is our QB and leader the guy is unbelivable, and who drafted him? Ours CHUCKY , Gruden!, PLEASE AL somehow someway get gruden back and make Gradkowski our future and i would bet anything we would be in the playoffs, no doubt in my mind, i’ve been playing and watching football for over 40 years and i see alot of rich gannon in Gradkowski, lots of people back here are waiting for AL to show how smart he is so please try to make this happen, russell has been given way too much time and he is the worst i have ever seen,set pride aside AL and do what is smart. a die-hard in my blood RAIDER FAN.
December 15th, 2009 at 10:34 pm
usmarine, nice post.
Sign Gruden and draft an offensive tackle in the first round.
And Al, stop being an idiot. Let somebody else run the team.
December 15th, 2009 at 10:40 pm
JaBigMac
JaWalrus
JaBustus
JaBroney
December 15th, 2009 at 10:45 pm
To me the worst higher of guys seemingly on the radar would be Gilbride. Guy had a shot with the Chargers back in the late 1990s and got canned halfway through his 2nd season. Was something like 6-16 in that span. Not at all a fiery leader. Kind of a journeyman OC. Not particularly impressed with his play-calling (calls a ton of 50-yard bombs on 3rd and 1 trying to fool the defense rather than just move the chains — rarely works and drives that could’ve been kept alive with something high percentage are stopped).
Honestly, I’d rather keep Cable than go with Gilbride. A Gilbride hiring just has 2 completely wasted seasons written all over it before we pick up the pieces and start again.
December 15th, 2009 at 10:45 pm
Worst hire, sorry.
December 15th, 2009 at 10:58 pm
gruden2010 Says:
December 15th, 2009 at 10:21 pm
I’d like to start a “MESSAGE TO AL” type of grassroots internet movement. But not as serious. This one would be to come up with a designated nickname for Jamarcus Russell. With more suggestions, I will start an online poll and website and hopefully gather enough momentum for a billboard (probably not) or at least an internet banner/ad, something substantial.
So here is a list. Please add suggestions:
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JaMarcus has played so badly, he’ll be remembered as one of the the biggest busts ever.
In a few years, other players will be compared to him.
“Man, that guy’s so bad…he’s another JaMarcus.”
The most insulting name you call him is JaMarcus!!!
December 15th, 2009 at 11:48 pm
So All the 1st round picks are Davis’, the later picks are left to his arse-kissing professionals?
December 15th, 2009 at 11:55 pm
Gradkowski and Cable gone after this year. Russell starts next year. Next HC either Fassell or Hackett, either of which will be a puppet for Al. Gruden not coming here for a billion dollars. Random Drug Tester continues to defend Al and embarrass himself.
December 16th, 2009 at 12:00 am
Guys… as long as Al is the owner it really doesn’t matter who he hires as coach.
I’m sick and tired of the same BS. 8 losing seasons now. It’s pathetic ans it ALL points to ownership.
December 16th, 2009 at 12:05 am
Jim Fassel, yeeeee-haw!!!!!!!!
December 16th, 2009 at 12:06 am
There’s no way in hell, after 7 straight blackouts, Davis can come back next year selling the same ole bullshyt.
December 16th, 2009 at 12:31 am
JaMarcus has played so badly, he’ll be remembered as one of the the biggest busts ever.
In a few years, other players will be compared to him.
“Man, that guy’s so bad…he’s another JaMarcus.”
The most insulting name you call him is JaMarcus!!!
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lol thats hella funny.haha
December 16th, 2009 at 12:35 am
Big Name First Round Busts, will be called a Davis pick.
Hahahaha, hahaha, hella funny, lol, lol, haha, haha.
December 16th, 2009 at 12:42 am
Random Drug Tester Says:
December 15th, 2009 at 9:49 pm
Jamarcus is facing a life changing situation.
How he responds to it will be the defining moment for the rest of his life.
He is lucky and challenged beyond a young man’s abilities all at once.
Hopefully he responds.
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Yep, he’ll ponder his fate for a few minutes, then have a full meal and get a good night’s sleep.
He’ll pay somebody to worry about those things.
December 16th, 2009 at 12:52 am
Russell’s bad legacy will pale in comparison to that of Al Davis’s. Every year Al sticks around, the more people forget about the good he’s done. It’s already to the point to where only his die hard loyalists within the Raider nation remember the good, anyway. And that number dwindles by the day. The longer Al stays, the more he’s remembered for the post Gruden era.
December 16th, 2009 at 3:27 am
Good Morning NATION!!!
December 16th, 2009 at 3:46 am
I realize that because of the Losman signing some are starting 2 mention Fassell.Altho I have no ill feelings toward Fassell and he is a good coach,I dont see what Cable has done wrong 2B fired or demoted back 2 O-line coach.
Tom Cable INHERITED THIS MESS
With all the injuries on the O-line this year,the TOTAL INEPTITUDE of #2,TD’s called by the ref’s and other atrocious drive killing penalties,its a wonder we have 4 victories,imo.
All teams have emotional let-downs….I guess we had 2 vs. both N.Y. teams.
Cable put up with #2 for 2 long but maybe it was orders and when he had enough he benched him.
In comes Gradkowski and it was like starting over….everybody pulled together like a team and it showed.
Its very apparent that #2 slacked in every phase of being a team player.The whole team deflated once #2 came on the field.I know they supposed 2B pro’s but when your team leader dont give a sh!t why should they.
#2 is and was and always will be a cancer to the Raiders and I hope they cut him yesterday.He deserves it the way he sh!t on the organization
The PLAYERS RESPOND 2 Cable and his no-nonsense style.What you see is what you get.
As stated above Cable INHERITED THIS MESS
It took awhile but he is still purging the crap left-over from previous administrations.
The PLAYERS LOVE and RESPOND 2 Cable
He has done nothing 2B fired 4 cause and Rome wasnt built in a day.Geee if Big Al fired Cable ,then 4sure no-one else would want 2 coach here because if you know football you can see,ALL THINGS BEING CONSIDERED Cable IS doing a good job
December 16th, 2009 at 3:57 am
well said
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Random Drug Tester Says:
December 15th, 2009 at 9:49 pm
Jamarcus is facing a life changing situation.
How he responds to it will be the defining moment for the rest of his life.
He is lucky and challenged beyond a young man’s abilities all at once.
Hopefully he responds
December 16th, 2009 at 3:59 am
yes I agree 4 Russell the person….I hope he fares well in life.But I just dont want him anywhere around Oakland Ca.
December 16th, 2009 at 5:07 am
Losman had a tryout with the Colts a week ago.
That must not have gone very well. I never heard anything about it after the fact.
December 16th, 2009 at 5:10 am
Losman will start for us at some point this season
December 16th, 2009 at 5:13 am
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December 16th, 2009 at 5:18 am
Forget that I hope Russell goes the way of Antonio Walker,Canseco,Sprewell,Dykstra,Tyson hope you read about him 5 yrs down the road having blown his fortune the lack of effort and film work is just awful and nobody will pick him up he is a joke now no one will ever mention Ryan Leaf it will always be on draft day ” You just gotta hope he isn’t another Russell”.
December 16th, 2009 at 5:27 am
Looks like the Raiders signed another one…
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AP 16/DEC/09
In a surprise move today, the Oakland Raiders signed quarterback Willie Beamon to a one year contract. The signing is controversial to many with the Raiders organization, not only because Beamon has not played in several years, but also because he is an entirely fictional character.
The role of Willie Beamon was played by actor Jamie Fox in one of his first ventures onto the big screen. When contacted early this morning, Fox responded only with, ” Who the (expletive) is this? Do you know what (expletive) time it is?”
Super agent Scott Boras brokered the deal with Oakland and was pleased with the signing. When reached for a comment, Boras explained, ” They’ve been having some trouble at the quarterback position for a while now, and we feel that Beamon can only help them.”
When asked if he thought Beamon would be starting anytime soon, Boras told us, ” Yes, absolutely. We think he’s better than two of the quarterbacks on the roster already. We would also like to get him signed to a mutli-year deal before the start of next year.”
Boras was not bothered by the ethical question of signing a fictional player, and quiped, ” Hey, as long as the check clears…”
The reported seven figure contract will have incentives such as passing yards, touchdowns and ” singing that ‘Georgia’ song.”
Boras was also trying to interest Raider management in older players such as Sammy Baugh, George Gipp and Dick “night train” Lane.
The Raiders management was typically quiet about the news, but John Herrera was able to comment on the signing. ” We feel it was in the best interest of the organization to make the move at this time. We feel he should be able to help us get through this troubled year.”
When asked if he knew the player was not real, Herrera responded, ” Not real? More like not real good. I mean, more like real good. He’s real good. And fast too. Four point four.”
As for who made the decision to sign Beamon, Herrera did not give a name, saying only that the decision came ” from very high up.”
December 16th, 2009 at 5:45 am
Good Morning Nation!!!
JP Losman, huh? BTW: Did I see LMN on here? Whats up brother?
4eva and the early bird AM crew…coffee anyone? This should be an interesting ride!!!
December 16th, 2009 at 5:47 am
On Monday Night Football Gruden did say that Al gave him good players to work with.
I think that we all know that Jamarcus is going to be back next year (whether we like it or not). We also know that Al isn’t going to pay attention to the billboard on 880… but maybe Jamarcus will. Perhaps they should change it to read:
Jamarcus: stay hear this offseason – throw to DHB, Murphy, Schillens, and anyone else who will catch a ball. Work out, lose weight, we want you to succeed.
The fact is, a lot of money has been sunk into the guy, he has a rocket arm, and a bruised ego. How many times have we seen him release the ball and have it arrive at a player’s feet. He looks like he is ‘pushing’ the ball instead of throwing it.
He clearly isn’t a leader, but perhaps with some off season work (as opposed to eating) he might improve. Watching him in the game this weekend, the moment he came onto the field his head was down. The players moved a bit slower, and the team pretty much looked deflated. He needs to show leadership, which is something he hasn’t been able to do yet. Perhaps sticking around in the offseason will also improve DHB’s hands???
I can tell you this: If he doesn’t stick around this offseason and improve, then he should be cut at the final cutdown. I also wouldn’t mind taking bets on how long it is before the guy declares bankruptcy after he is out of football. My guess is within 5 years.
December 16th, 2009 at 5:49 am
Hey Hwnrdr!!!!
This is an insurance move….as in 4 the WR’s,TE’s and RB’s.We cannot afford to have #2 leading our players into harms way lol…..Just ask JLH and Zach
December 16th, 2009 at 5:50 am
Post 290: Huh? LOL
December 16th, 2009 at 5:58 am
Good morning Nation, The Only Nation.
JP Losman wow pretty much a Jmac with experience. What was his excuse for failure, we know Jmac or any other QB couldnt have succeeded under this circus we have in oakland. But what was the reason JP couldnt cut it?
I think Jmac will take a hard look in the mirror this offseason and realize that just cause he is gifted nothing is for certain. He will come in inthe best shape of his life with a great knowledge of how to read a defense. I think he might even find himself a mentor type or reach out to maybe McNabb, i know they hit it off when they met this year in Oakland.
I agree if he does not do these things and improve then cut him on the final cut day in camp. But we owe it to him and Mr Davis to at least try to makes amends.
When there is no more bottom to keep falling to there is only progress and i believe Jmac has hit bottom. He also needs to work on his team chemistry and start taking blame for his mishaps.
Cable needs to go and take his Zone blockig O-Line with him, we do need Trestman as a coach or play caller, we also need a proven WR coach Jery rice anyone he isnt doing much these days. A Offense of cordinator R-Gannon anyone pay him and get Trestman or Gruden in here and end this crap.
December 16th, 2009 at 6:00 am
The problem with JaMarcus is we don’t know whether he has hit the bottom. Terrible thought is that he is the best he will be.
December 16th, 2009 at 6:01 am
GOOD MORNING SPORT’S FAN’S,I’LL TAKE J.P. OVER FRYKOWSKI ANY DAY..
December 16th, 2009 at 6:04 am
True but like running a business with a huge investment you have to keep trying. Giving up is not an option. Jmac has alot of growing up to do this offseason lets see how serious he is about getting better.
December 16th, 2009 at 6:07 am
Morning 4evaRaider, I like to start off my morning with a laugh.
December 16th, 2009 at 6:10 am
I ordered my plates within the first 30 minutes and they threw in free of charge a case of fruit punch flavored gatorade.
December 16th, 2009 at 6:12 am
lmao!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Thank you ….I also love 2 start the day with a goooood laugh =)
December 16th, 2009 at 6:13 am
wooow R8dr4life21 I MUST order right away!!!!!!!!!!
December 16th, 2009 at 6:13 am
The raiders have the highest payroll in the league and we suck this bad. We are like the NY Mets this is sad.
December 16th, 2009 at 6:13 am
What up Nation???????
BRL is the best he is going to be.
BRL needs to go to jail for the following charges;
1. Fraud – Not a NFL QB.
2 False Imprisonment – Team and Fans.
3. Rape – Team, and fans
4. Grand Theft – 38 mil worth.
5. Tax Evasion – Claiming he had earned income.
December 16th, 2009 at 6:14 am
oh nooo we suck AGAIN
December 16th, 2009 at 6:14 am
Order now supplies are limited.
December 16th, 2009 at 6:14 am
Funny I wente to Buffalonews.com or something like that where you can read “Losman to wear silver and black” and some of the comments are:
- He’s better then any QB currently on the Bills roster.
- I always knew he was a winner….poor guy..how we abused him…disgraceful city !!
- J.P.’s going to become the 2010 Oakland version of the last Buffalo QB to go to Oakland (Darryl Lamonica). J.P. will become the new “Mad Bomber”…you watch.
-Good for JP. He probably deserved another chance because no matter how bad he looked in Buffalo, it could have had something to do with the terrible coaching he had here. Maybe he’ll be a decent back up QB.
- Sounds like Daryle Lamonica and Deja Vu all over again. Go JP
December 16th, 2009 at 6:14 am
Thank you ALSO Thec lmao
December 16th, 2009 at 6:15 am
AND DRIVING LESSON’S..
December 16th, 2009 at 6:15 am
Thec07,
you forgot false advertisemnet.
December 16th, 2009 at 6:17 am
Yeah cause Jmac has had awesome coaching here in Oakland.
Lets hope he does do well, im all in for player helping us win.
December 16th, 2009 at 6:17 am
r8dr4lfe21 Says:
December 16th, 2009 at 6:15 am
Thec07,
you forgot false advertisemnet.
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You right Bruh, was just getting the list started.
I bet when its all said and done, some of these charges would actually stick…
4eva, what up Bruh, Yeah i come in hear in the morning
in my office with as cup of joe, this is the best place for early morning entertainment…. IMHO
December 16th, 2009 at 6:19 am
you SURE got that right Thec Bruh!!!!
December 16th, 2009 at 6:20 am
O dont know if the inter-net is big enough 4 ALL the charges he could be guilty of lol
December 16th, 2009 at 6:21 am
JP failures are miniscule compared to Jamarcus.
Losman led the NFL in completion percentage one year. Yes, he started 16 games and had a higher completion % than Peyton, Brees and Brady, all the while playing in freaking BUFFALO!!
Not exactly the easiest place to throw a football in December.
December 16th, 2009 at 6:21 am
If you have a list getting started why donet we add the whole team.
Defense for impersonating a tackler.
The O-Line for lack of protection.
LB’s enough said. “they suck”
Coach Cable for not benching everyone that lacks production unless his name is Russell, or Bush.
December 16th, 2009 at 6:21 am
hey that was a nice post El Tato hmmmm
seems like when a team is losing,fan rebellion is a constant in every city
December 16th, 2009 at 6:23 am
JP sounds like a hall of famer, only a 1 year contract huh? wow should have gave him Jmac’s money and given Jmac the money JP made in the UFL.
December 16th, 2009 at 6:23 am
I didnt know that about Losman Vegas…. and every one know how I feel about a QB that leads in %’s
December 16th, 2009 at 6:24 am
I’d like to see JP become the next “Mad Bomber”…but you really think so? Well…we’ll have to wait and see! (but…how long…lol).
December 16th, 2009 at 6:24 am
ooppsss….scratch that, Buffalo Bills single-season completion percentage.
Impressive yes, but not what I though I read.
Sorry, sorry
December 16th, 2009 at 6:25 am
Did anyone else hear Ron Jaworski talking about Kurt Warner for the hall of fame. Saying he will get in no question about it. All the while Plunkett sits and waits, and waits, and waits, and waits… Bunch of crap
December 16th, 2009 at 6:27 am
There will be no mad bomber unless these WR catch the freakin ball. We will have a bomber thats mad if they dont.
December 16th, 2009 at 6:28 am
Yeah I know…
And Plunkett won TWO. Warner has been to 3, but still only won one! (Of corse, that one in 2002 should have been a win)!!!
December 16th, 2009 at 6:29 am
Losman is our 3rd QB, nothing more right now, but he choose to play in the UFL and not to be a backup in the NFL and he has 33 TDs in the NFL, same number Frye and JaMarcus have combined, what I mean is, he will start for us this season and he could be considered for next season as a QB candidate.
December 16th, 2009 at 6:29 am
# DIRT-LOT FOOTBALL Says:
December 16th, 2009 at 6:01 am
GOOD MORNING SPORT’S FAN’S,I’LL TAKE J.P. OVER FRYKOWSKI ANY DAY..
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I WONT!!!!!
we used to get backup QBs and let them play, now we pickup QB which time in the NFL is entirely over…
RAIDERS, the best team in UFL!!!
and all the excitement is just pathetic, its a symptom to why the patient ‘Raiders’ are so goddamn sick…
this scrapheap mentality will NEVER get us going… browns will be SB champs before we win our division, heck even Lions will….
December 16th, 2009 at 6:29 am
Still Vegas that is quite impressive considering Machine-Gunn Kelly played there
December 16th, 2009 at 6:30 am
I THINK RAIDER FAN’S WILL LIKE LOSMAN’S PLAY. WE SHALL SEE THOUGH.
December 16th, 2009 at 6:30 am
Then we have Cliff Branch who’s numbers are better then Lynn Swann and the other steelers WR cant remeber his name. Cliff’s numbers are better in the regular season but in the post season there way better not to mention 3 rings i believe.
December 16th, 2009 at 6:31 am
# vegas raider Says:
December 16th, 2009 at 6:21 am
JP failures are miniscule compared to Jamarcus.
Losman led the NFL in completion percentage one year. Yes, he started 16 games and had a higher completion % than Peyton, Brees and Brady, all the while playing in freaking BUFFALO!!
Not exactly the easiest place to throw a football in December.
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comeon man, using Jamarcus as a measuring tool is just plain wrong, its like using satan to show how good santa is…
December 16th, 2009 at 6:31 am
Stallworth
December 16th, 2009 at 6:32 am
Browns and Lions?????
Neither one of those teams have ever even BEEN to a Super Bowl in 50 years.
Last I checked, they were below us in the standing again this year.
December 16th, 2009 at 6:32 am
Satan-Claus!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!lmao
December 16th, 2009 at 6:33 am
we used to get backup QBs and let them play, now we pickup QB which time in the NFL is entirely over…
RAIDERS, the best team in UFL!!!
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I read JP had Giants and Colts offers to become a backup but he choose to start in the UFL, if thats true, I respect him, not many players would do that.
December 16th, 2009 at 6:33 am
# vegas raider Says:
December 16th, 2009 at 6:32 am
Browns and Lions?????
Neither one of those teams have ever even BEEN to a Super Bowl in 50 years.
Last I checked, they were below us in the standing again this year.
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with Fassel, as HC neither will we….
December 16th, 2009 at 6:34 am
We as Raider fans have had so much to put up with with this team that we are starting to settle on other teams garbage. Instead look at the big picture this year is done who gives a crap who starts so long as we see improvement if not get them out of here. Morrison, Carslile, Green, Satele, Barnes they all have to go unless they show improvement.
December 16th, 2009 at 6:36 am
Funny anology comparing satan and santa both ficticious characters but good 1.
December 16th, 2009 at 6:37 am
GOOD MORNING L M N.I AGREE,WHO WOULD U PLAY ?
December 16th, 2009 at 6:37 am
# r8dr4lfe21 Says:
December 16th, 2009 at 6:36 am
Funny anology comparing satan and santa both ficticious characters but good 1.
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well so are LOSMAN and JaMarcus in QB-terms…
December 16th, 2009 at 6:38 am
hahahaha wow there whent the coffee good 1.
December 16th, 2009 at 6:40 am
We have a lot of fake ballers on this team. They need a reality check, if it wasnt for the patriots picking up our leftovers they would have no place to go. They need to know that get you’re head in the game and concentrate Daniel Son.
December 16th, 2009 at 6:42 am
# DIRT-LOT FOOTBALL Says:
December 16th, 2009 at 6:37 am
GOOD MORNING L M N.I AGREE,WHO WOULD U PLAY ?
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I would play Frye, no doubt about it, and I wouldnt touch Losman if i got paid to take him, he is just a dumbass as brady quinn… I rather have an fool like David Carr for the matter… or freaking Josh McCown…
LOSMAN does a half good job in the UFL, and suddently the guys here thinks he is the messiah, i dont buy and i have a hard time rooting for the Raiders with him as a QB… just as i would have a hard time rooting for the raiders if Mike Tice were HC… or Matt Millen were to be our GM….
December 16th, 2009 at 6:45 am
So negative, LMN…
but hey, what do we have to be positive about? We can’t even win 2 in an FN row!!! Doesn’t matter what qb…but, I agree with you there. I would start Frye!
December 16th, 2009 at 6:47 am
LMN, all I want for Christmas is a first round offensive tackle. Until Al Davis realizes that offensive tackle is the most important position on the football field, we will continue to suck.
December 16th, 2009 at 6:48 am
welcome back LMN!
woohoo. the AM crew is alive & well
December 16th, 2009 at 6:49 am
exactly…
nothing to be positive about, we have an Neanderthaler as HC, a freaking mummy as GM and no chance in hell to win our division the next 5 years…
…its snowing, its cold…
why the hell should i be positive =)
December 16th, 2009 at 6:50 am
LMN you cant possibly be saying Santa Claus isnt real
December 16th, 2009 at 6:50 am
I agree Hwnrdr, start Frye!
he knows the offense and he hasn’t had a chance yet to show whether or not he’s worth keeping around for next year …
December 16th, 2009 at 6:50 am
Start JP Losman!!!! Best QB in Oakland!
December 16th, 2009 at 6:51 am
Kirk…
Im with you on that… and then a runstopping DT, and a run stopping MLB, and then a Center,and then, and then…
anything but a WR, RB and a QB… but we all know what our dear fool will pick…
December 16th, 2009 at 6:52 am
# 4evaRaider Says:
December 16th, 2009 at 6:50 am
LMN you cant possibly be saying Santa Claus isnt real
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just as real as Losmans abilities, yeah think about, it will cvome to ya…. =)
December 16th, 2009 at 6:53 am
# RaiderRockstar Says:
December 16th, 2009 at 6:50 am
I agree Hwnrdr, start Frye!
he knows the offense and he hasn’t had a chance yet to show whether or not he’s worth keeping around for next year …
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excactly!!! and if he does good, its yet another sign that JaMarcus doesnt have the marbles to be an NFL QB…
December 16th, 2009 at 6:54 am
In all seriousness… Losman is not as bad a QB as he got credit for up here in Buffalo. They never gave the guy a shot (believe me I am well aware that we will have the same issues here) but he is at least moderately mobile (not a statue) and a far more accurate QB then #2 (still wont use his punkass name). I agree though we should go with Frye who has been here all year.
December 16th, 2009 at 6:54 am
time to get some work done now. later gents!
December 16th, 2009 at 6:56 am
# RaiderRockstar Says:
December 16th, 2009 at 6:48 am
welcome back LMN!
woohoo. the AM crew is alive & well
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thanks, after christmas or certainly after newyears, im here more often… if you all can handle my doom and gloom speeches and baaaad humor ≈) LOL
December 16th, 2009 at 6:58 am
yeah im outta here too…. see ha guys, take care and behave =) LOL
December 16th, 2009 at 7:00 am
morning all.
Didn’t burn the house down yesterday,so I’m back.
December 16th, 2009 at 7:00 am
TAKE CARE L M N AND HAPPY HOLIDAY’S…
December 16th, 2009 at 7:02 am
All I want for Christmas is to go 3-0…is that too much to ask? LOL
December 16th, 2009 at 7:04 am
GOOD DAY NEILB,MAYBE U COULD REROUTE SOME OF YOUR MILLION’S REDIRECT YOUR RETIREMENT FUND AND BUY THE RAIDER’S. WOULD BE A NICE CHRISTMAS 4 THE FAN’S..
December 16th, 2009 at 7:04 am
Honestly I thought frye looked sharpe in pre-season right along with grads. I thought he had the best performances of the two backups but grad got more cred because he was there at the beginning of training camp.
December 16th, 2009 at 7:05 am
Hwnrdr…
You should ask for a Lamborghini and Lucy Pinder….you’ve got more chance of getting what you want!!
December 16th, 2009 at 7:08 am
Dirt-lot…
I must admit,I have thought about it….
Would you want an English owner ?
December 16th, 2009 at 7:08 am
Haha!!! I know huh? But, I’m trying…to be positive here…oh well! Last game…Jan 3rd
Dirt Lot…we’re going all out!!! Hope to see ya there!!!
December 16th, 2009 at 7:09 am
Forgot my manners…
Good morning Dirt-lot.
December 16th, 2009 at 7:11 am
ENGLISH WOULD BE FINE NEILB,AS LONG AS THE BALL’S DO NOT GO COMPLETLEY ROUND AND NET’S APPEAR AT BOTH END’S OF THE FIELD..
December 16th, 2009 at 7:12 am
Hwnrdr….
This time last year I was positive.Finding it harder and harder right now.
December 16th, 2009 at 7:13 am
Dirt-lot…
LOL!!! It’s a deal!!
December 16th, 2009 at 7:15 am
Neilb would make a GREAT owner,imo
if you’re hiring Neilb I know EVERYTHING about football lol!!!!
December 16th, 2009 at 7:18 am
4eva..
You’re in!! Need a good right hand man.
December 16th, 2009 at 7:21 am
Back to reality….
What kind of a QB is Losman ? And what can he bring to the Raiders with only 3 games left of a losing season?
December 16th, 2009 at 7:22 am
Thankx Neilb….
But I gotta have total control at all times mine,mine,mine,mine,mine,mine…..
December 16th, 2009 at 7:24 am
this is the reason Neilb,imo
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4evaRaider Says:
December 16th, 2009 at 5:49 am
Hey Hwnrdr!!!!
This is an insurance move….as in 4 the WR’s,TE’s and RB’s.We cannot afford to have #2 leading our players into harms way lol…..Just ask JLH and Zach
December 16th, 2009 at 7:25 am
Got this from rf365,there’s a load of Bills fans’ on there….
“Best of luck with JP, I hope it works out. He surely didn’t get any real coaching in Buffalo. That said we (Bills) need a QB very badly. The Bills and Raiders are mirror images of each other as in dysfunctional. This is sad, very sad indeed.”
December 16th, 2009 at 7:26 am
You guys are overreacting. He’s not even goimg to play. Grads is the future, at least for now.
December 16th, 2009 at 7:27 am
“Didn’t get any real coaching…..”
Now,where have I heard that before….
December 16th, 2009 at 7:28 am
To be honest,I can’t see him doing anything other than hold a clipboard.
December 16th, 2009 at 7:28 am
true dat Weaselbit….but Grads should NOT see ANY playing time untill he wins the next camp and starts,imo
December 16th, 2009 at 7:34 am
IMHO It dosent matter who they bring in because whoever it is is gonna have 2 BEAT-OUT The Gifted Gradkowski.Good luck with that cause everyone knows they gonna have to pry it off his ead fingers,lol
He never gives up and he prolly took the O-line aside and chewed their “collective” ear,4 that preformance.
Thats what leaders do
December 16th, 2009 at 7:37 am
At what point can Grad look at offers ? Do we get the first option ? A little worried that another team will come in for him.
December 16th, 2009 at 7:41 am
I hope not Neilb. I would love to keep Grads. He has shown what we haven’t had here since Gannon!
December 16th, 2009 at 7:42 am
Dont really know….I just see the players REALLY believe in him and that is a POWERFULL DRUG in the NFL,imo
December 16th, 2009 at 7:45 am
I would believe those comments from the Bills fans about Losman….Could have been a better from what they say.Soo Losman is young and Grads is young
This is one of the few “win-win” situations we’ve had recently
December 16th, 2009 at 7:46 am
It’s a problem I’ve been thinking about since I learnt he only had a 1 yr contract.
Other teams we have seen how well he’s been playing and offer him a better deal than the Raiders will give him.
December 16th, 2009 at 7:47 am
Somebody blogged during last game that linemen were actually yelling at JR.
December 16th, 2009 at 7:48 am
That worries me too Neil ’cause we know how stupid al’s been lately. As in last 7 or 8 yrs
December 16th, 2009 at 7:48 am
Got to go….
Dinners ready and all the familys here.
Back tomorrow.
December 16th, 2009 at 7:49 am
They should be!!!
December 16th, 2009 at 7:50 am
On that note…thanks for making me hungry Neilb. Haha! Just kidding…
Gots some work to do also! See ya guys tomorrow!
December 16th, 2009 at 7:51 am
MERRY CHRISTMAS Neilb
December 16th, 2009 at 8:04 am
and the addition of Elliott Vallejo a huge T from U.C.Davis….Look’s like next season is in full swing!!!!
December 16th, 2009 at 8:09 am
This is what we have become?
A bunch of fans that cheer when NFL busts walk back into the room.
Charlie Frye? Losman? Gradowski, who I must admit out played himself but I doubt he would ahve led us to the play-offs.
I must admit that any QB is a step up from Russel, but man when you sart cheering for spam when you really want steak you have hit rock bottom as a fan. You know what I mean?
December 16th, 2009 at 8:17 am
I dunno know how you add Grads 2 that list.He is entering 4th year,as a bench-mark I’ll throw in Stabler rode the bench for 4 years.
So this is basically his 1st year 2 start.BELIEVE ME I KNOW some will say he started in Tampa….but he was pressed into action and did good.I always thought that experience was good for a QB such as Grads,a true student and it was on display in only 3 games.You must be able 2 see this 34 and if you cant then you at least gotta see how his teammates rally 4 him.He’s is gonna get the best out of our horses just because he can,imo
December 16th, 2009 at 8:19 am
r8dr4lfe21 Says:
December 16th, 2009 at 6:25 am
Did anyone else hear Ron Jaworski talking about Kurt Warner for the hall of fame. Saying he will get in no question about it. All the while Plunkett sits and waits, and waits, and waits, and waits… Bunch of crap
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I know this probably makes me a traitor, but I agree that Warner gets in before Plunkett. If it weren’t for the 2 rings — which yes, is awesome and a big deal — there’s not a chance in hell anyone would even consider Plunkett.
Career numbers:
Warner: 32,000 yards; 205 TDs/127 INTs; 93.8 career QB rating; 3 Super Bowl appearances, 1 win; Owns the 3 highest passing yardage totals in Super Bowl history (i.e. when you look at the list of single-game Super Bowl passing yardage leaders Warner is 1, 2 & 3 from the three he’s been in).
Plunkett: 26,000 yards; 164 TDs/198 INTs; 67.5 career QB rating; 2 Super Bowl appearances, 2 wins.
It’s only fair to point out that passing numbers are generally across the board higher in today’s game than they were 30 years ago. So it’s not completely fair to say Warner is light-years better than Plunkett as the numbers somewhat suggest. But I think he has had a longer run of success and elite play than Plunkett did. If it weren’t for last year’s SB run Warner probably doesn’t make it either.
December 16th, 2009 at 8:24 am
CJ,
You really can’t knock Gradkowski. He was 2-1 against three really good teams and was probably having his best game yet in a game that was close at halftime with the ‘Skins. Evading the rush, accurate throws, getting the ball downfield — he was doing it all.
Gradkowski deserves to not only compete for the starting job next year, but he needs to be thought of as the No. 1 guy entering the competition no matter what FA or rookie QB we bring in.
December 16th, 2009 at 8:41 am
Agree with Chris in NY, but quick question. what if we go 3-0 with JP?
December 16th, 2009 at 8:44 am
We could not go 3-0 with anyone as our QB with Cable as HC!
December 16th, 2009 at 8:44 am
R8eray,
I doubt Losman starts this week or probably even next week. If things aren’t going well they may give him a shot in Week 17.
December 16th, 2009 at 8:52 am
Plunkett doubtfully will ever get in, and IMO, shouldn’t.
Hall of Fame should be for your career, not a few good years. TONS of players have a “few” good years, whether because of the system, or being surrounded by a solid cast.
Hall of Fame members should prove they have done it over a period of time, under different circumstances.
Plunkett is not close to being in Warner’s league, or sustained level of play.
Plunkett was just one of many who did a good job those two SB years.
December 16th, 2009 at 8:57 am
# 4evaRaider Says:
December 16th, 2009 at 7:45 am
I would believe those comments from the Bills fans about Losman….Could have been a better from what they say.Soo Losman is young and Grads is young
This is one of the few “win-win” situations we’ve had recently
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LMFAO..you moron.
“win-win”?? Losman and Grad, because they’re “young” is a win-win?
Grad is a stopgap, and Losman is NFL roadkill.
Amazing how some of you just jump and cling onto whatever Al throws at you, like meek sheep.
“Losman?? OH GOODY..WE HAVE LOSMAN!!” The guy’s reduced to being out of the NFL, and some of you are happy now that he’s the Raiders QB???
Sheep….meek, blind, lemmingesque..SHEEP.
December 16th, 2009 at 8:59 am
Well we gotta start somewhere and anything is better than #2.I guess you dont see where this is all going
December 16th, 2009 at 9:04 am
A draft re-do of the first round. Interesting, they got Louis Murphy going in the first round, and the first three OT’s not going in the first round at all.
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/writers/don_banks/12/15/redraft/index.html?eref=sihp
December 16th, 2009 at 9:06 am
difference between Grads and #2…
Grads plays against Steelers,
Grads get Offensive Player of the Week.
JR plays a half against Washington,
Orakpo gets NFC Defensive Player of the Week…
December 16th, 2009 at 9:07 am
# hwnrdr Says:
December 16th, 2009 at 6:28 am
Yeah I know…
And Plunkett won TWO. Warner has been to 3, but still only won one! (Of corse, that one in 2002 should have been a win)!!!
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So, by your reasoning Marino shouldn’t be in the Hall?
Lot’s of players in the hall haven’t won the SB.
Lot’s of Super Bowl winners will never sniff the hall.
December 16th, 2009 at 9:07 am
I think Cable is an average coach at best.
Our offense is way to predictable and we waste talent in our play calling. Cable does not scheme plays to his players strengths. To be a o-line coach man did he put together a junkyard of an offensive line. They could not stop a turtle from getting to the QB.
Our defense gives up way to many plays. They are the worse tackling team I have seen in a long time.Have you ever watched a pro team miss as many tackles as the Raiders? Be honest. They make every runningback in this league better. If Cedric Benson was available for the Bengals we would have got torched. Man-to-man is the most bravado over rated formations in the league and we live by it and mostly die by it.
Grads is an over acheivng C+/B- QB in this league.
Frye is a C- talent in the league.
Russel is a Joke, I mean D-/E QB in this league.
Man his issues are so deep I don’t know where to start.
Our best talent at the start of the season was a running back and we really don’t know what they can do. Fargas same as last year, no flash but dependable. Bush who the heck knows he is standing on the sidelines most of the time and Russel is hurt or missing in action most games.
I can’t process into words how lame Cable is for just using him in the passing game at the end of the season. The Saints figured out how to use Reggie Bush’s speed in space after one year.
So we beat the Steelers, so did the Cheifs and the Browns, I guess that puts us in good company? LMAO!!!
Oh well maybe next year, just being real fellas.
December 16th, 2009 at 9:11 am
at least we wont see JaBeefroll wearing the silver and black next year.
December 16th, 2009 at 9:12 am
Richochet,
Losman had offers to backup in the NFL and chose to go to the UFL so he could play. I think being in Vegas and still making 6 figures helped his decision-making, but he says he made the decision to go to the Las Vegas Loco’s over backing up in the NFL.
December 16th, 2009 at 9:13 am
# 4evaRaider Says:
December 16th, 2009 at 8:59 am
Well we gotta start somewhere and anything is better than #2.I guess you dont see where this is all going
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MOST see where it’s going.
You’re so damn slow, you can’t see your hand in front of your face.
GETTING A DISCARDED CRAP PLAYER, TO REPLACE A CRAP PLAYER ISN’T A REASON TO CELEBRATE, you moron.
It’s the whine of losers.
It’s Al Davis MO.
Aaron Brooks? OH..YIPPEE…
Walter….THE NEXT MONTANA..
JOSH…MCCLOWN…RUSSELL….GRAD…FRYE…LOSMAN..
That old, dumbass of an owner, just keeps thinking ‘Oh..hey…GET THAT GUY..he’ll step it up for us, because I’m Al. He’ll “win one for the gipper”..because I’m Al. I’m just SURE THEY ALL ALWAYS WANTED TO BE A RAIDER.”
and there are always lemmings like you, that just go meekly along, cheering whatever, because you FEEL YOU NEED TO DO THAT IN ORDER TO FIT IN…
Sad
December 16th, 2009 at 9:15 am
when Tom Cable was O-line coach we were in the top 10 in rushing in the NFL.Hes a first year coach learning on the fly,I know but it is what it is.Imo he’s wearing 2 many hats but with the benching of #2 things were looking up.Cable deserves another year,imo
December 16th, 2009 at 9:17 am
Vegas..Garcia also had offers to ‘back up’.
Means you can step in for a “stinger” injury, or to successfully hand off, or dump off in the event it’s a longer injury, while the team looks for another “backup”.
Being viewed as a “backup” isn’t “making it in the nfl”.
His stats show why he’s a backup.
Getting in a crappy ‘backup’, again, isn’t a reason to cheer, or even lobby for him to start…only in Al Davis’s eyes.
December 16th, 2009 at 9:18 am
Clearly you DONT see where this is going.
Once again you dont disappoint do ya lil pumkin seed
December 16th, 2009 at 9:19 am
He was a starter in the NFL and than chose to go to the UFL were he became a champion.
His book isn’t by any means closed.
Same with Bruce, who I would rather have than Losman.
December 16th, 2009 at 9:21 am
Cable is a good O-line coach but I’m not so sure about head coach. If he has an excellent supporting cast (coordinators, etc) and someone else is calling the plays, I can see it. Otherwise, he just needs to put the play sheet down. The man can’t call plays.
When fans know more about how to utilize a certain player than the coach does, that’s real sad. And that’s exactly what’s happened with DMC. Many of us have been saying all along that he’s not a between the tackles runner and needs to be in space. It took Cable the better part of a year to figure that out! Unacceptable. And he still hasn’t figured out that Bush is the best every down back we have.
December 16th, 2009 at 9:22 am
she knows knothing about football Vegas as any one can see
December 16th, 2009 at 9:24 am
On the radio last night I caught the tail end when they were talking about the QB debacle. I guess players have come out publicly voicing their distaste for JR and what he brings to the team.
Anyone know who it was?
December 16th, 2009 at 9:27 am
I should clarify with respect to the fans. Some fans were calling for DMC to be the every down back, not realizing or analyzing his shortcomings. Fans will be fans.
But many of us knew it would never work. Chicken legs. Stiff breeze blows the man over.
December 16th, 2009 at 9:28 am
# 4evaRaider Says:
December 16th, 2009 at 9:15 am
when Tom Cable was O-line coach we were in the top 10 in rushing in the NFL.Hes a first year coach learning on the fly,I know but it is what it is.Imo he’s wearing 2 many hats but with the benching of #2 things were looking up.Cable deserves another year,imo
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4eva?? Do you understand the concept of spaces?
Seriously, you don’t know that after the end of a sentence, you need a space between the period, and the start of the next sentence?
Or after a comma?
Considering you’re not a kid, are you just slow?
That said, obviously you are.
Cable? CABLE IS A TREE STUMP, nothing more.
So far no one can list THREE THINGS that indicate he should return..NO ONE.
Horrible at motivating players.
The worst at calling plays.
NO DISCIPLINE AT ALL..zero..none.
Can’t even figure out who should be the staring RB..something he’s been trying to figure out since training camp.
Al Davis, BY CABLES ADMISSION, benched Russell BOTH TIMES..not Cable.
Bey should have been benched, but wasn’t.
Hell, Kwame Harris WHO WAS THE WORST IN THE LEAGUE AS LT, got 8 more games under Cable before he was finally benched week 12.
Cable has horrible clock management.
Non-existent half time adjustments.
Is a total clown, with zero credibility at press conferences, because of his silly say nothing takes, while continuing TO SEE THE TOP OF THE MOUNTAIN..lol..which everyone knows is the grand canyon, and not a mountain.
Is the ONLY HEAD COACH IN THE LEAGUE, who never, as in EVER says a single damn word to any player during a game..almost as if he’s too slow to figure out what to say while trying to figure out what play to call.
SUCCESSIVE PENALTIES? Not a word from Cable..NOTHING.
Successive crap play from Russell? NOT A SINGLE WORD.
the man is Al’s token puppet..and he knows it.
The players know it.
Most fans know it.
you? still looking for your hand, and your shopping list.
December 16th, 2009 at 9:28 am
# morilla Says:
December 16th, 2009 at 9:24 am
On the radio last night I caught the tail end when they were talking about the QB debacle. I guess players have come out publicly voicing their distaste for JR and what he brings to the team.
Anyone know who it was?
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Who said that Morilla?
December 16th, 2009 at 9:28 am
we really couldnt use Dmac imo because of #2 nothing worked.Throw all the games where #2 started in the crapper,how appropriate I know lol.
Lets get a solid QB and our 10th ranked rushing attack back then judge Dmac
December 16th, 2009 at 9:31 am
# morilla Says:
December 16th, 2009 at 9:24 am
On the radio last night I caught the tail end when they were talking about the QB debacle. I guess players have come out publicly voicing their distaste for JR and what he brings to the team.
Anyone know who it was?
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Don’t know about the public part, but Green has been mentioned numerous times, about him jumping up and down in disgust and frustration, after JR took yet another sack, while yelling out in anguish.
December 16th, 2009 at 9:32 am
you should write lil kids books richo….you look silly and once again you never did answer M Lontree
Richochet,you have never had an original thought….
How does that feel????
December 16th, 2009 at 9:35 am
The Big Banana Says:
December 16th, 2009 at 9:28 am
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Who said that Morilla?
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Not sure, I didn’t catch the players names. It was on my drive home and I was listening to Hacksaw. I know, I know, It was either that or basketball… But they were talking about specific players, I just caught the end of the convo.
I knew Green has been pissed at him, so maybe it was him.
December 16th, 2009 at 9:35 am
# 4evaRaider Says:
December 16th, 2009 at 9:18 am
Clearly you DONT see where this is going.
Once again you dont disappoint do ya lil pumkin seed
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One thing I’ll NEVER worry about is you explaining anything, much less what you’re “trying” to say.
For fun? Tell me..where’s it going?
LMFAO knowing right now all you’re doing is preparing another shopping list, and picking out your next dress/purse ensemble.
I’m curious about something.
I recall you saying your what? In your 40’s? 50’s? Yet you spell like an idiot, and can’t figure out simple grammar.
Are you…uh…”slow”?
Just curious, because that would explain things.
December 16th, 2009 at 9:36 am
Fargas ran the ball 9 times for 21yds. But he runs sooooooooo violently, ooooh, ahhhhhh.
December 16th, 2009 at 9:37 am
Russell ran right into that guy on the Green sack. Cornell looked at him and was like “what the hell are you doing?”
It was like 4th and 15, where was he going? He had a pocket, frkn throw it somewhere, it’s 4th down!!!
He just don’t get it, the one time it would be OK to throw into triple coverage, 4th and forever at the end of a loss, and he is “scrambling”. 1st drive of the game is when he takes his chances and throws into triple coverage. I hate him.
December 16th, 2009 at 9:38 am
# 4evaRaider Says:
December 16th, 2009 at 9:32 am
you should write lil kids books richo….you look silly and once again you never did answer M Lontree
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See? First off, I’m assuming you meant Lonetree.
Answer WHAT, you blathering idiot?
Lonetree’s not even on.
Please, tell me you’re referring to something in the past, just to prove you are dumber than cotton, and just as weak, lol…
SPACES AFTER PERIODS, DUMBASS.
Come on..you can do it.
Even little children can learn..why can’t you?
Not that hard, 4EvaDumb..AFTER A COMMA AND A PERIOD, PUT A SPACE.
get your crayon, and give it a go.
December 16th, 2009 at 9:39 am
and just what do you know about,lets see what did you call them…oh yeah a dress/purse ensemble’s????
Only a high-falootin lady would know how to even talk that way….
Well that explains that =)
December 16th, 2009 at 9:40 am
When Al Davis looks in the mirror he sees a face that actually gets younger with age, crowned with a garland of miniature Super Bowl trophies. Then he goes and labors for 20 minutes on the toilet. Oh, wait, no…I’m sorry…that’s Doriangray.
December 16th, 2009 at 9:40 am
EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
HAWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW
December 16th, 2009 at 9:41 am
4eva – I understand what you’re trying to say. But consider that Bush has been effective despite #2, unlike the other 2 RBs. Following are the yards per carry average:
Bush – 4.5
Fargas – 3.8
Dmac – 3.1
Looking at those numbers, why in the world would you give Fargas 41 more carries to this point? And Dmac only has 5 fewer carries than Bush despite being injured for so long. Cable has his head clear up his azz when it comes to the run game. Whether you factor in #2’s ineffectiveness or not.
December 16th, 2009 at 9:41 am
KoolKell Says:
December 16th, 2009 at 9:36 am
Fargas ran the ball 9 times for 21yds. But he runs sooooooooo violently, ooooh, ahhhhhh.
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Dude,,,, you know he does, he had a sh-tty game.
On the violent tip,,,, Did you see DMAC in the Washington game? He was in space in the middle and had a one on one with a safety. THE SAFETY LIT HIM UP AND PUT HIM ON HIS BACK!. Completely made him look like a little girl. If he cant run over a safety, how the hell is he going to do anything worthwhile in the NFL.
December 16th, 2009 at 9:44 am
# KoolKell Says:
December 16th, 2009 at 9:36 am
Fargas ran the ball 9 times for 21yds. But he runs sooooooooo violently, ooooh, ahhhhhh.
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Dude, Koolkell:
Get a brain man.
Fargas’ 21 yards would have been 9 yards if Bush was getting the same carries.
I like M. Bush but at this point in his career, he gets to the hole way too slowly.
And McFadden simply doesn’t break tackles very often.
So. . . .with a not-so-good offensive line, Fargus at least attacks the small holes that there for a split second and gains some positive yardage when there’s really not much there to be had.
Give me a break man. If you’ve watched the past 4-5 games, in particular, Fargas has simply been way more productive with the carries he’s gotten than either of the 2 youngsters would have.
How ’bout we give the opposition some credit for playing good run defense???
December 16th, 2009 at 9:46 am
# ohioraider Says:
December 16th, 2009 at 9:40 am
When Al Davis looks in the mirror he sees a face that actually gets younger with age, crowned with a garland of miniature Super Bowl trophies. Then he goes and labors for 20 minutes on the toilet. Oh, wait, no…I’m sorry…that’s Doriangray.
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What the Fiok kind of comment is this?
Is this blog also a portfolio site for wannabe commedians?
December 16th, 2009 at 9:49 am
3.1 YPC for “D-Mac”
That is comical.
December 16th, 2009 at 9:49 am
# The Big Banana Says:
December 16th, 2009 at 9:41 am
4eva – I understand what you’re trying to say. But consider that Bush has been effective despite #2, unlike the other 2 RBs. Following are the yards per carry average:
Bush – 4.5
Fargas – 3.8
Dmac – 3.1
Looking at those numbers, why in the world would you give Fargas 41 more carries to this point? And Dmac only has 5 fewer carries than Bush despite being injured for so long. Cable has his head clear up his azz when it comes to the run game. Whether you factor in #2’s ineffectiveness or not.
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I love you guys who throw all the stats out there for us to see.
Did you ever stop and consider the fact that Bush’s stats are inflated as the result of a few long runs this season?
Man, I want a guy back there that gets me consistent yards throughout the entirety of a football game.
Don’t give me a 65 yard run, only to follow it up with 18 carries for 21 yards.
Screw the stats. Watch the damn game for a change.
December 16th, 2009 at 9:51 am
I dont know why.You would think the higher % guy would be in.I can only think that Cable thinks Fragas gives them the best chance 2 win.I was hoping Dmac woulda bust out this year but GAWD the whole mess this season.Cable thinks Fargas is a more complete back and despite the difference in ypc Fargas gives us our best chance 2 win
December 16th, 2009 at 9:51 am
Dude, Koolkell:
Get a brain man.
Fargas’ 21 yards would have been 9 yards if Bush was getting the same carries.
I like M. Bush but at this point in his career, he gets to the hole way too slowly.
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Gee, I wonder why Bush avg 4.5 yards per carry?
December 16th, 2009 at 9:51 am
Darren did get screwed a little in the Skins game.
We had a first and 20, and Darren ran for like 11-12 yards (nice run). Offsides on the D, and the genius of Tom Cable accepts the penalty, first and 15 , and than a draw to Darren, and he gets like 2 yards.
Great job Cable.
December 16th, 2009 at 9:53 am
# 4evaRaider Says:
December 16th, 2009 at 9:39 am
and just what do you know about,lets see what did you call them…oh yeah a dress/purse ensemble’s????
Only a high-falootin lady would know how to even talk that way….
Well that explains that =)
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In other words, you’re an uneducated, ignorant clod?
Yeah, lol..I know..we all know.
You’re the board fool..the clown..the one everyone feels sorry for. The flea that sits here ALL DAY LONG, EACH AND EVERY DAY..
WTF? Seriously, are you retarded? Or just dead from the neck up? I’ll stop by on occasion..as others do.
YOU? YOU LIVE HERE.
Just waiting to say ‘Good morning’..then waiting for the obligatory pat on the head.
Dude, you post your shopping list? You actually feel compelled to say “going for a walk now” or “taking the dog out now” as if you believe/hope someone actually cares, lol..or gives a damn.
Good news? Many do feel sorry for ya, 4eva..almost feel like they’re doing a good deed by making sure you get your “head pat”.
Good for them.
And good for you too.
You go, girl.
December 16th, 2009 at 9:54 am
Vegas,
Your break up letter to Grads was hilarious!
December 16th, 2009 at 9:55 am
Koolkell says:
“Gee, I wonder why Bush avg 4.5 yards per carry?”
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Uh. . . .see post #435.
December 16th, 2009 at 9:58 am
jhill Says:
December 16th, 2009 at 9:54 am
Vegas,
Your break up letter to Grads was hilarious!
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And I thought things were going so well between us too!! LOL
December 16th, 2009 at 9:59 am
Silver-N-Smac Says:
I love you guys who throw all the stats out there for us to see.
Did you ever stop and consider the fact that Bush’s stats are inflated as the result of a few long runs this season?
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Ahhh I see, 60yd runs don’t count. Gotcha.
December 16th, 2009 at 10:00 am
Silver – I like stats because they tend to tell the story, objectively.
For instance, Bush has only had one run over 20 yards all year. A 60 yarder against KC. Take away that run and, guess what? He still has a higher ypc than Fargas. Not by much, but still higher, plus you get the benefit of a runner who can break on every now and then. Please explain how that is a bad thing.
December 16th, 2009 at 10:01 am
no your just a lady thats what I meant.And I’m sure everyone else knew it too,again
What an imagination you have lil one
December 16th, 2009 at 10:01 am
Koolkell says:
Ahhh I see, 60yd runs don’t count. Gotcha.
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You’re damn right 60 yard runs don’t count if the result is one touchdown and nothing after that?
So you’re telling me that you’re happy with a 60 yard TD run when you’re spanked at the line of scrimmage the rest of the game, resulting in a 35-7 typs of blowout?
Whatever man.
Enjoy your stats.
December 16th, 2009 at 10:02 am
vegas raider Says:
December 16th, 2009 at 9:37 am
Russell ran right into that guy on the Green sack. Cornell looked at him and was like “what the hell are you doing?”
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Your boy from Cal had Green beat like a drum to the outside on that play, lol! If Russell would have stayed in the pocket, he would have been sacked to. Carter adjusted again with a spin move and beat him again.
The funniest part about that play to me was Green actually thinking HE forced Carter back inside and was doing a good job.
Everyone knows Green is the worst pass blocking OT in the league. How many times did the other 11 guys jump up and down when he jumped offsides or missed all those blocks the last 2 years. Throw Green out with the rest of the trash!
December 16th, 2009 at 10:02 am
Someone please tell me why a back that can break one every now and then is a bad thing. That same back, minus that long run, still has a better ypc than anyone else on the roster.
December 16th, 2009 at 10:03 am
# Silver-n-Smac Says:
December 16th, 2009 at 10:01 am
Koolkell says:
Ahhh I see, 60yd runs don’t count. Gotcha.
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You’re damn right 60 yard runs don’t count if the result is one touchdown and nothing after that?
So you’re telling me that you’re happy with a 60 yard TD run when you’re spanked at the line of scrimmage the rest of the game, resulting in a 35-7 typs of blowout?
Whatever man.
Enjoy your stats.
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Uh….see post #444
December 16th, 2009 at 10:04 am
When we think back on the last two games last year, and all the hope it gave us. Turns out the Texans probably didn’t show up and Gruden, Kiffin and the Bucs had one foot out the door was the reason for our “success”.
Because as we can see, all things with hope from those two games, Russell, Bush, Cable, Run D, O-line, all once again sucked the next year.
We got snookered!!!
December 16th, 2009 at 10:05 am
you know a sissy….all you do is come here and try and start shizzzitt,and we all know the reason that is.Its because you been b!tched-slapped your whole lil-cross-dressing life.
It’s soo obvious
And soo true
Now run along
December 16th, 2009 at 10:06 am
Holmgren is talkiing to Cleveland about a GM job?!
Come on AL!
Mike Holmgren doesn’t want to go to Cleveland-nobody wants to go to Cleveland.
Sign Mike Holmgren to the GM job AL!
December 16th, 2009 at 10:08 am
I was thinking about our 4 QB’s we have on our roster last night. Didn’t Gruden have a galllery of QB’s also?
I don’t know…just thinking out loud! Just mabe..we could only hope and dream!
December 16th, 2009 at 10:09 am
CJ Legend 34 Says:
December 16th, 2009 at 9:07 am
I think Cable is an average coach at best.
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To claim that worthless pos is even average at best you must be in a very generous Christmas mood…
December 16th, 2009 at 10:09 am
# r8eray Says:
December 16th, 2009 at 10:08 am
I was thinking about our 4 QB’s we have on our roster last night. Didn’t Gruden have a galllery of QB’s also?
I don’t know…just thinking out loud! Just mabe..we could only hope and dream!
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Haha. Nice connection. All the pieces are fitting right into place. Do the right thing, Al!!!
December 16th, 2009 at 10:09 am
Let’s see.
Fassel is known for not being prepared against weak teams, and is known for routinely getting beat by inferior teams.
Fassel was fired after two years as Baltimore’s OC because their offense was listed as one of the worst in the NFL.
Fassel tried to get on at Washington, but was repeatedly turned down, most recently bypassed by a rookie HC, Zorn.
Fassel, getting no sniffs from anyone, drafts letters to owners, including Al, saying “I always wanted to coach the “__________” (insert team)..still no sniffs.
Following year interviews for the vacant Rams job..AND STILL NOT WANTED.
So goes to the Jr. League to coach…
Which only means one thing…THE NEXT HEAD COACH OF THE OAKLAND RAIDERS.
Only the Raiders, lol…ONLY the Raiders.
December 16th, 2009 at 10:11 am
Big Bananna:
Look, if you’ve read my posts before, I’ve always stated that Bush & D-Mac are both more talented than Fargas.
I’m not naive enough not to know that. I like both guys and I think they’re keepers.
But guess what? Talent gets squashed when some skill is accompanied by heart & determination.
That’s what Fargas brings.
He hits the hole quicker than both guys, even though he’s slower than D-Mac.
He punishes the defense and breaks tackles, even though he’s smaller than Bush.
Right now, at this moment in time, Bush takes too long to hit the holes and simply doesn’t seem to play with the passion that I’d like to see.
And D-Mac needs to hit the squat machine. He simply goes down too easily.
I guarantee you that if Fargas was handed the ball 20 times a game, EVERY game, that he would have a much more productive season than if the same occurred for the other 2 guys.
I suppose we can agree to disagree on this one.
December 16th, 2009 at 10:11 am
JHill,
I only saw the play once, so I remember the reaction more than the play. I notice that whenever we play these dominant fast ends, sometimes our tackles don’t even touch them. I think of this weekend with Peppers and that guy from Atlanta last year, Dumervil, etc. They don’t even put a move on, they are so much past that, just reacting to the play and abusing us. I remember that happening on the play, Carter just “posting up” Green and waiting for the board, if you know what I mean.
Green does suck and should walk this year, but Russell DOES have to find a way to throw the ball. Remember Bruce’s duck against Pittsburgh? Why can’t Russell at least do that? I mean that is not asking for much.
6 sacks in an hour and a half for Russell was more than Bruce the whole damn month. You can’t properly assess anything offensively with this guy back there.
I remember Peppers and that guy from Atlanta last year, Dumervil etc.
December 16th, 2009 at 10:12 am
All of the RBs will be fine…once we have an professional grade o-line and a QB that can keep them honest and a coach that has a play book more than three pages deep.
December 16th, 2009 at 10:12 am
Vegas,
Interesting draft redo from SI. I was clamoring for the Raiders to trade down for a mid/late 1st and 2nd round pick and get Maualuga and Loadholt. How much better shape would we be in heading into next season with RT and LB needs filled? I’ll admit that Cushing does look like the best of the 3 USC LBs and Matthews and Maualuga are very close. Maualuga is that physical presence we miss in the LB corps and I loved Loadholt. Watched him just push guys 5-10 yards down field on seemingly every play at Oklahoma. Huge dude. Word was he’s a hard worker. He’s going to be a great RT in this league for years to come.
As for their re-draft pick of Crabtree, I’d rather have Nicks or Maclin if we were to still go WR.
December 16th, 2009 at 10:14 am
4eva?
Still waiting.
How is it you’re as old as you are, yet spell like you’re 12, and can’t figure out simple sentence structure?
Seriously.
How is that possible? I know, I know, the answer is something you want to avoid, but damn dude, maybe instead of sitting on this board all day long, waiting for someone to lighten up your life, you should maybe read up? Attend a class? Library? Any of those should help, because you come across as borderline retarded.
Oh..and “lonetree”?? Still waiting..what the hell are you babbling about? Do you even know?
December 16th, 2009 at 10:14 am
What’s everyone’s fascination with Mike Holmgren as a GM?
He’s a great coach, but, what has he done to make you think he’s even a good GM?
When he tried to juggle coaching & GM duties in Seattle, he failed miserably.
Unless I’m missing some great moves he made as a GM, I just don’t get it.
I love his football knowledge. If you got him as my coach or O-coordinator, I’d be ecstatic.
But as GM?
Not so much.
December 16th, 2009 at 10:16 am
Vegas,
Congrats on Losman, lol…next step Fassel?
Can’t be worse than Cable.
December 16th, 2009 at 10:17 am
So the Raiders didn’t draft the right WR. In other news water is wet.
December 16th, 2009 at 10:18 am
The only Super Bowl Holmgren won was with a team Ron Wolf assembled…Hmmm that Ron Wolf fellar keeps popping up!
December 16th, 2009 at 10:19 am
Vegas,
Russell is a slug, we all know that. There was NO defense for Russell in me pointing out that Green should hardly talk. Russell is actually the “rest of the trash” I was talking about.
December 16th, 2009 at 10:19 am
1st RD and 3rd RD should be O-line!
Al here is your cheat sheet for the draft this year.
PS
your welcome..anything I could do to help you out!
http://www.nfl.com/news/story?id=09000d5d8112f2a3&template=without-video-with-comments&confirm=true
December 16th, 2009 at 10:20 am
Chris in NY,
I liked the re-do too, I’m a big draft junkie, LOL.
I think drafting a true RT in the 2nd round, is the best way to go these days. Loadholt is the perfect example. With Mario already at LT, drafting a LT in the first and moving him around, just sounds like another Raider draft disaster.
I said last year that Mualagua would be the worst of the three, and he was the last drafted. I still think Matthews can be a big playmaker as well.
But trading down just isn’t Al’s way much, all though he at least did it before drafting Mike Mitchell.
December 16th, 2009 at 10:21 am
CONFERENCE CALL FROM CABLE.
Frye is staring qb this Sunday.
That will be all.
December 16th, 2009 at 10:21 am
Put a fork in you, Russell…you’re done.
December 16th, 2009 at 10:22 am
well if you cant see it you’re blind and dumb.And I’m not gonna explain it to you.
December 16th, 2009 at 10:22 am
I’m still a believer in DMac — if he can stay healthy that is. He’s really the most explosive option we have on offense and big plays are absolutely necessary if you want to win in the NFL right now.
I don’t think he’s a Reggie Bush type that can’t run consistently in the middle. DMac actually has a pretty physical style and I’ve seen him smash into defenders quite often. I think what he’s lacking most — aside from a good o-line — is field vision. I don’t know if it’s because of the ZBS or what but, just like Fargas, DMac too often just sprints full-speed into a wall of blockers and defenders at the line and has nowhere to go but down. McFadden needs to show better vision and a little more patience.
And we need to get him the ball on the outside more often. Seems like we run 1 off-tackle run per game with him and 6 or 7 between the tackles. With his speed I’d be running toss sweeps to him 5 times per game, off-tackle hand-offs another 3 times. Counter runs another 3 times. A few quick hitters up the middle and about 5 pass plays. That’s right around 20 touches per game.
Instead we run 1-2 off tackle runs. 6-7 up the middle. And a few pass plays for about 10 touches per game.
December 16th, 2009 at 10:24 am
You know it Dakota…and they are bringing their championship pedigree, lol
December 16th, 2009 at 10:25 am
Chris,
You’re absolutely right. D-Mac is a tough kid and you can tell he’s a “baller”. I just think he needs to bulk up those legs to be a consistent between-the-tackles kind of back.
Once he does that, he can be a GREAT player.
December 16th, 2009 at 10:25 am
Silver-N-Smac Says:
December 16th, 2009 at 10:01 am
You’re damn right 60 yard runs don’t count if the result is one touchdown and nothing after that?
Whatever man.
Enjoy your stats.
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That’s the thing with Cults, including the Al Davis Cult.
You’re not supposed to believe the numbers.
You’re not supposed to believe what you read.
You’re not supposed to believe your lying eyes.
You’re only to believe what the Cult Leader says. Dude, you need an intervention.
December 16th, 2009 at 10:26 am
The funniest thing I hear is about DHB being a bust. Everyone is hammering Jruss, which is duelly warranted, but noone is talking about how he is the biggest reason for DHB’s struggles. If they had turned to Brad earlier maybe DHB could have made strides that would have people talking about him in the same breathe as Harvin and Nicks. I think that Murphy was a still in the 4th round but even his development was stunted by Jruss. another thing on first round picks is Mcfadden doesn’t get good blocking, I am not saying that he is ready, but half the time he getsw hit in the backfield. Bush is the best back we have but thanks to Jruss nobody has to much motovation had Brad made it longer and Cable seen the truth we may have finnally made the strides we need. Sticking with the fat 1st rounder has setback the others. Many QB’s take time to grow and Losman was not good in Buffalo, but he did show signs of whats to come. Maybe the non-pressure starts in the UFL gave him the chance to grow. GET RID OF JRUSS and let the others have a chance. GET aF@#%ing MLB.
December 16th, 2009 at 10:28 am
KoolKell, you never answered my question on why DMAC got his ass handed to him on a one on one drill out in space by a safety.
December 16th, 2009 at 10:28 am
Chris in NY,
I have been a HUGE critic of Darren, but you mention his “pretty physical style”.
I couldn’t believe my eyes when they had an SI NFL players poll on strongest guy in the NFL. Players couldn’t vote for a teammate or themselves, and only 2 offensive skill position players got more than one vote.
Adrian Peterson and Darren McFadden.
NO BS. I still think Felix Jones and some other Razorback did it, LOL.
December 16th, 2009 at 10:29 am
PFT is reporting Frye will start Sunday…
December 16th, 2009 at 10:29 am
Silver n Smac,
I agree there’s no real reason to think Holmgren would be some sort of savior at GM. He wasn’t GM in those Green Bay days. He was bombing out as GM/Coach in Seattle. When Holmgren was GM/Coach for the first four years in Seattle they had a sub-.500 record in that time. After he was stripped of GM duties they went on to post 5 consecutive winning seasons before bombing out (largely due to injuries) in his last year.
Definitely a very good coach. Unproven as a GM though.
December 16th, 2009 at 10:30 am
Why the hell do they keep running DMC like he was Jerome Bettis? Its been 2 seasons now, and Cable keeps running ol’ chicken-legs into the DTs? why?
December 16th, 2009 at 10:31 am
and you are extremely stooopid richo.Altho I may be here daily it dosent mean I dont accomplish anything.I do.But at least I’m in the open about.In order for you to know I am on here daily,you MUST be on here daily….lurking like the kind of demented tortured living abortion you are.Be careful what you reveal about yourself RICHOCHET because you have already revealed too much
December 16th, 2009 at 10:32 am
Drack,
I don’t know that DHB will be any good with any QB until he learns how to catch with his hands. I see a guy like that Pitt WR Baldwin aggressively going after passes and catching them away from his body with his hands and I think to myself how the hell can a college kid know that but DHB doesn’t?
Is DHB retarded? He did get only get a 14 on the Wonderlic… He almost always lets the ball hit him in the pads and he always waits for the pass instead of going after it. Either the kid is brain dead or Lal is as worthless as teets on a bull. I don’t know that a different QB will help him very much.
December 16th, 2009 at 10:33 am
Morilla Says:
December 16th, 2009 at 10:28 am
KoolKell, you never answered my question on why DMAC got his ass handed to him on a one on one drill out in space by a safety.
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????????? Safeties make plays too?
Didn’t see the drill. Gotta run, be back later.
December 16th, 2009 at 10:34 am
morilla Says:
December 16th, 2009 at 10:28 am
KoolKell, you never answered my question on why DMAC got his ass handed to him on a one on one drill out in space by a safety.
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Are you talking about the swing pass near the end of the game where Russell left him out to dry near the sideline?
December 16th, 2009 at 10:34 am
Well..looks like we got some good news!!
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2009/12/16/charlie-frye-to-start-sunday/
December 16th, 2009 at 10:35 am
I’m telling you no way is DMac soft. If anything he invites contact too much.
Just needs to work on field vision and patience. If you gave DMac Priest Holmes’ field vision and patience (not to mention that o-line KC had in the Vermeil years) and he’d have multiple 2,000 yard rushing seasons. No joke.
December 16th, 2009 at 10:35 am
Is DHB retarded? He did get only get a 14 on the Wonderlic…
Lol, maybe I would get a 14 too since I wrote that poor sentence…
December 16th, 2009 at 10:36 am
Koolkell says:
That’s the thing with Cults, including the Al Davis Cult.
You’re not supposed to believe the numbers.
You’re not supposed to believe what you read.
You’re not supposed to believe your lying eyes.
You’re only to believe what the Cult Leader says. Dude, you need an intervention.
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Man, what are you talking about?
You think Davis wouldn’t prefer to have his 2 prized young draft picks to step up to the plate and seize that starting job?
That’s hilarious.
Yeah, o.k. – I worship Al Davis and that’s why I like Fargas. Whatever dude.
That’s the best you can do?
December 16th, 2009 at 10:36 am
Drack, that would have been a solid argument until Grad threw that ball to him late in the KC game and it hit him on that NFL Equipment Logo and fell to the ground.
December 16th, 2009 at 10:36 am
Does Frye have any mobility? I don’t remember seeing any of his games.
December 16th, 2009 at 10:36 am
What I’ve seen of DHB: i) has never outrun a CB in a deep rout. ii) does not catch the ball with his hands. iii) has been clearly outplayed by a 4th rounder in the same POS offense…sorry, but DHB sucks.
December 16th, 2009 at 10:36 am
I know a Cleveland fan, and he always called Charlie Frye…Chuck Potato. Thought it was funny and I always remembered that.
He beat us in Oakland once, even though he throw one of the worst across his body off balance red zone INT’s I ever seen. I think they were leading at the time as well.
He is no Bruce.
December 16th, 2009 at 10:36 am
JR is and NFL ’set Up’ guy…
set’s up defenders for Player of the week honors…
set’s up his recievers for bone jarring hits
set’s up his team for failure every Sunday…
December 16th, 2009 at 10:37 am
3-part post:
PART 1:
I’ve been one of JaMarcus’ big supporters around here. I’m one of the clowns you all have been dissin’ all morning and all season long.
And that’s fine. Getting’ ripped on a football blog is the least of my life concerns.
I’ll say this about JaMarcus. I STILL believe that he will be a good QB in this league in years to come. I think he’s been humbled, and after watching the interview with him yesterday, I’ll say again – this is a young, immature kid who’s been humbled big time. And in that state of embarrassment, he doesn’t know how to handle the media’s questions.
I think many of you are a bunch of class-less Ass-Howles. You’ve made this personal against JaMarcus as though he ruined your personal lives in some way.
And some of you are flat-out racist and I think that’s a damn shame.
December 16th, 2009 at 10:37 am
PART 2
JaMarcus is clearly not ready right now. Let’s be blunt: He SUCKS right now. But he didn’t need THAT.
By THAT, I mean he didn’t need his teammates quit on him before he even took the first snap. That’s what happened and I think that’s unacceptable at the pro level.
The guy is horrible right now. We’re all in agreement of that.
But to not even provide him with a CHANCE to succeed is just wrong.
December 16th, 2009 at 10:37 am
Are you talking about the swing pass near the end of the game where Russell left him out to dry near the sideline?
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nope, it was in the middle of the field. There were 10 yards between the 2 and you saw DMAC make the decision to go right at him. I was like , ok let’s see where this goes. He went full speed at the safety, put his head down and the safety leveled him.
the dude is a wet napkin.
December 16th, 2009 at 10:38 am
yeah baby!!!! Charlie Frye….Anybody but FatWalrus pls.
At least Frye should know the playbook by now.
December 16th, 2009 at 10:39 am
Charlie Frye starting should be another nail in Cable’s coffin. Why wasn’t Frye the backup BEFORE Grads got hurt? Why was Russell allowed to trot on the field last week? Did he FINALLY realize that Russell wasn’t the guy? Or is he still reading this blog just reacting to the latest fan poll?
December 16th, 2009 at 10:40 am
“The heat is on” Good luck Glen,I mean Charlie Frye.
December 16th, 2009 at 10:40 am
Silver,
Maybe they got sick and tired of him not putting in the effort during the week and whole season. Maybe they know a whole lot more wrong with him then we know. Not only did they quit on him, they yelled at his a$$ on the field.
December 16th, 2009 at 10:40 am
Someone on here was pleading for Losman. I forgot who it was, but anyways naybody at this point is better than Jadeadly.
December 16th, 2009 at 10:41 am
Damn. . .why won’t it let me post PART 3???? LOL
December 16th, 2009 at 10:41 am
anybody
December 16th, 2009 at 10:42 am
Jhill,
Cable has to convince Al too. We forget that Cable has a tough job of having to gingerly walk with Crazy Al too.
December 16th, 2009 at 10:42 am
The other problem with DHB — the reason I wanted no part of drafting him even in the 2nd round — was that he wasn’t even that productive in college. We’re not talking about some guy who was very good in college and had these great measurables and is maybe just struggling in his rookie season. He never even dominated in the ACC with his speed. How’s that same player going to dominate in the NFL where everyone is just a microsecond slower when he couldn’t dominate guys he was distinctively faster than?
I do hope DHB figures it out because he seems like a good guy and a hard worker and he wants to be good. He needs to catch about 1 million passes with nothing but his hands this off-season. Forget weights, forget sprints. Just catch footballs with your hands only from every different kind of pass possible every day this off-season until it becomes an unbreakable habit. That’s how DHB could prove the doubters wrong.
December 16th, 2009 at 10:48 am
start Charlie Frye!
Losman is an insurance policy in Weeks 16 & 17 in case Frye stinks or gets injured …
Russell is done imo
December 16th, 2009 at 10:49 am
AIG:
I hear ya man, but, how do you or any of us really know what type of effort he has been putting in lately?
How do any of us know how that effort compares to the other 31 starting QB’s in the league?
Are you convinced the rest of them have stellar work ethics?
Did Kenny Stabler have a stellar work ethic? Did his physique impress you much? Has JaMarcus been hanging out at the bars with you and me, the way Stabler did?
JaMarcus’ biggest problem is that he has NO idea how to express himself publicly.
I saw a couple of screen shots of him, seated on the bench, with another player’r arm around him. He looked completely demoralized and he did again during that interview.
He obviously DOES care.
But he’s playing like crap. Simple as that.
And what he needs to do is to shut fans’ asses up by coming out and saying that he DOES care and that he IS trying to get better and that it DOES hurt him to hear the boos.
I think that can at least get the media world off his back a little.
His problem is that he tries to come off as cool and collect.
All that does is bring him more criticism.
That kid may suck, but, he does care.
I can say that much with certainty.
You can say all he cares about is money, but, I disagree wholeheartedly.
December 16th, 2009 at 10:51 am
And when I say he sucks, I mean he sucks RIGHT NOW.
I think he’ll be a very good QB in this league.
Am I stupid?
Time will tell.
December 16th, 2009 at 10:52 am
Silver-N-Smac coming strong!
I agree with you some of the under current on the blog in regards to JaMarcus is border line racist. It just goes to show you the class of some people man.
Now don’t get me wrong he has not helped his cause but refering to him as a monkey and all of the other crazy names do get out of line at times.
I just know the man could loose some weight and his game is terrible right now. With that being said he could leave a sorry franchise like the Raiders right now and go start in another three years or not. He will not be the first second year guy to stink the place up. Not to mention no run game, no WRs, no defense, and now no confidence.
But he did take the money and dealing with rude fans and crazy media goes with the price tag. Not tomention wearing furs and shades to your interviews when you are loosing games does not help you in the eyes of the media.
December 16th, 2009 at 10:53 am
new post.
Frye is the guy!
December 16th, 2009 at 11:03 am
Dakota,
Sidney Rice looked as bad last year, and look at him this year. How many hits has he took because Jruss hung him out. Look at JLH, Jruss hangs him out and he gives up, Brad hangs him out and he pops up ready to play. Jruss may someday get it, but we should not have to pay him until he does. His attitude kills him. Brady throws for 300 yards and 3tds and 2 ints and still takes the blame for things going wrong. Jruss completes 10 for 27 2ints 2 fumbles and less than 100 yards and says he did his job and its the receivers fault. That was not directed at Dakota but to Silver-n-smac.
December 16th, 2009 at 11:37 am
My nomination for username of the year goes to:
Silver and Barf
LMAO.
December 16th, 2009 at 11:46 am
At this time I would like to announce the categories for this year’s Inside the Oakland Raiders blog awards.
Best Username of the Year
Worse Username of the Year
Al Davis Sycophant of the Year
Most Mindlessly Repetitive Poster of the Year
Angriest Poster of the Year
Worst Prognosticator of the Year
Best Prognosticator of the Year
Most Prolific Username Aliases of the Year
Most Creative Bastardization of JMR Name of the Year
Best Billboard of the Year
Tom Cable Hater of the Year
Most Pointless Postings About Fixing the Raiders Through Better Talent of the Year Award
Most Pointless Posting About Yearly Awards of the Year
Please submit your nominations to this board by December 28. Thank you for your cooperation.
December 16th, 2009 at 12:03 pm
Yeah for Frye starting… we are still going to get embarassed by the Donkeys… not that a Raiders loss can be considered embarassing anymore…
Dakota before you speak on DHBs Wonderlic score, have you ever taken the Wonderlic? Just out of curiousity. Its not easy. 14 is about the mean score for skill players in the NFL, excluding QBs (although im pretty sure #2 got a 7). Ryan Fitzpatrick is still the ONLY player to ever get a perfect 50 on it. Thats telling right there. I took it once and got a 48, but I definitely struggled with some of the questions (my IQ is in the vicinity if 162). There is no doubt in my mind that these young men that are bread to be athletes with education being little more than after thought would find that test nearly impossible.
December 16th, 2009 at 12:06 pm
Most Mindlessly Repetitive Poster of the Year
This has to go to TheRealMaddenRaider… he posts 300 times a day about how we are all stupid cuz we all cant see that its all Als fault… hell he calls people who agree with him stupid
December 16th, 2009 at 12:39 pm
Most Shameless Attempt at Public Self-Aggrandizement(Sub Category A: Showing Off One’s Intelligence), my nomination goes to:
Post #515 above, Bcz24, the Wonderlic Wonder.
December 18th, 2009 at 2:49 pm
mistic1 – not true, Fargas outplayed Bush and McFadden on an every down counts basis. Cable has played young players beyond what he probably should have…the young players just have not stepped up. That is not a reason to fire a NFL HC.
December 18th, 2009 at 11:17 pm
Total inconsistancy is killing this team. Plus, I see high schools running spread and pro style offenses. You mean to tell me JR can’t? Only got 2 words for that – wow….
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