Comments on: No `breakthrough’ in sight for JaMarcus http://www.ibabuzz.com/oaklandraiders/2009/12/16/no-breakthrough-in-sight-for-jamarcus/ A look inside the world of the highly classified Oakland Raiders from the writers of Bay Area News Group Fri, 10 Feb 2012 14:56:07 -0700 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: grand piano http://www.ibabuzz.com/oaklandraiders/2009/12/16/no-breakthrough-in-sight-for-jamarcus/comment-page-9/#comment-246049 grand piano Thu, 04 Feb 2010 10:00:28 +0000 http://www.ibabuzz.com/oaklandraiders/?p=8924#comment-246049 <strong>grand piano...</strong> Hello ;) Thanks heaps for this indeed!... if anyone else has anything, it would be much appreciated. Great website Super Piano Links http://www.en.Grand-Pianos.org Enjoy!... grand piano…

Hello ;) Thanks heaps for this indeed!… if anyone else has anything, it would be much appreciated. Great website Super Piano Links http://www.en.Grand-Pianos.org Enjoy!…

]]> By: sensacion7 http://www.ibabuzz.com/oaklandraiders/2009/12/16/no-breakthrough-in-sight-for-jamarcus/comment-page-9/#comment-212671 sensacion7 Sat, 19 Dec 2009 20:31:23 +0000 http://www.ibabuzz.com/oaklandraiders/?p=8924#comment-212671 Good Bye Off The Marcus Russel ! U R A Biger Bust Than Akili Smith Was ! Good Bye Off The Marcus Russel ! U R A Biger Bust Than Akili Smith Was !

]]> By: TonyTwizz http://www.ibabuzz.com/oaklandraiders/2009/12/16/no-breakthrough-in-sight-for-jamarcus/comment-page-9/#comment-212512 TonyTwizz Sat, 19 Dec 2009 06:30:18 +0000 http://www.ibabuzz.com/oaklandraiders/?p=8924#comment-212512 My first log, so what up Nation? I been a fan all my life and I truly believe Mr Davis has truly seen the light as far as JRs ability to lead his team. Never in all my life did I see a team have so little confidence in its QB as the Raiders showed Sun. They have determined that if JR plays, they have absolutely no chance to win. And the fact that the Raiders beat 3 good teams with only decent QB play speaks volumes as to the inherent quality of most of the players on this team.The fact is, a lot of players cant go from high school to college, alot of great college players cant cut it in the pros. No shame, JR was the consensus #1 QB in the draft and all agreed Oakland would be fools not to pick him. Well, I believe this expensive experiment has gne on long enough, and since JR won't restructure his contract because he has no faith in his own ability,that Mr. Davis will cut his losses and release him. AD has tried to bring in some players(Seymour, Ellis) he thought could help, and I dont think he wants to leave this legacy, this current state of affairs to history. I think AD will man up before his passing and right the ship, or at least try. My first log, so what up Nation? I been a fan all my life and I truly believe Mr Davis has truly seen the light as far as JRs ability to lead his team. Never in all my life did I see a team have so little confidence in its QB as the Raiders showed Sun. They have determined that if JR plays, they have absolutely no chance to win. And the fact that the Raiders beat 3 good teams with only decent QB play speaks volumes as to the inherent quality of most of the players on this team.The fact is, a lot of players cant go from high school to college, alot of great college players cant cut it in the pros. No shame, JR was the consensus #1 QB in the draft and all agreed Oakland would be fools not to pick him. Well, I believe this expensive experiment has gne on long enough, and since JR won’t restructure his contract because he has no faith in his own ability,that Mr. Davis will cut his losses and release him. AD has tried to bring in some players(Seymour, Ellis) he thought could help, and I dont think he wants to leave this legacy, this current state of affairs to history. I think AD will man up before his passing and right the ship, or at least try.

]]> By: kenw http://www.ibabuzz.com/oaklandraiders/2009/12/16/no-breakthrough-in-sight-for-jamarcus/comment-page-9/#comment-211780 kenw Fri, 18 Dec 2009 08:20:58 +0000 http://www.ibabuzz.com/oaklandraiders/?p=8924#comment-211780 You know what I was really beginnig to think that the Raider fans were not seeing the big picture. Some people just talk to be talking and some people talk with some intelegence. J Russel has his faults but the team sucked before his arrival. There has to be a reason for that. I have read some very good comments here and I agree that Russell has not had the same good hands people in the line up during the losing streak. This was due to injuries to a number of offensive players. A lot of players have come thru here and they leave to play for other teams and there play is spectacular. People keep talking about Russells weight and they don't know how much the man weighs they just want to be talking. I'll cut this short Russel looked good in the first game of the season and we should have beaten San Diego if the defense had not got caught slipping. He threw the touchdown pass to beat KC and he was quarterbacking when we be Philly. So his record this season has 2 wins just like the great Gradkawski. The players may not like russell but that is not a reason for them not to play thier best. Let Frye start and that O-line is going to get another qb down and out. The oline is the key to success. The fans that are focussing on Russel should take a good look around the supporting cast to see what is really going on. Thats my opinion. You know what I was really beginnig to think that the Raider fans were not seeing the big picture. Some people just talk to be talking and some people talk with some intelegence. J Russel has his faults but the team sucked before his arrival. There has to be a reason for that. I have read some very good comments here and I agree that Russell has not had the same good hands people in the line up during the losing streak. This was due to injuries to a number of offensive players. A lot of players have come thru here and they leave to play for other teams and there play is spectacular. People keep talking about Russells weight and they don’t know how much the man weighs they just want to be talking. I’ll cut this short Russel looked good in the first game of the season and we should have beaten San Diego if the defense had not got caught slipping. He threw the touchdown pass to beat KC and he was quarterbacking when we be Philly. So his record this season has 2 wins just like the great Gradkawski. The players may not like russell but that is not a reason for them not to play thier best. Let Frye start and that O-line is going to get another qb down and out. The oline is the key to success. The fans that are focussing on Russel should take a good look around the supporting cast to see what is really going on. Thats my opinion.

]]> By: RaiderSam http://www.ibabuzz.com/oaklandraiders/2009/12/16/no-breakthrough-in-sight-for-jamarcus/comment-page-9/#comment-211493 RaiderSam Thu, 17 Dec 2009 22:04:20 +0000 http://www.ibabuzz.com/oaklandraiders/?p=8924#comment-211493 # SnB offense defense specialteams Says: December 16th, 2009 at 3:52 pm The Raiders are the WORST FRANCHISE IN the NFL! With that said: Cut JaMarcus Russell RIGHT NOW Year-End: Fire Tom Cable Fire the entire coaching staff Cut Cornell Green Cut Cooper Carlisle Cut Samson Satele Cut Darius Heyward Bey Cut Gerard Warren Cut Tommy Kelly Restructure or Cut: Michael Huff Justin Fargas ======================== ok....Who replaces them via draft and/or free agency? and how did they beat Pittsburgh, Philly and Cincy, "fan"? # SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
December 16th, 2009 at 3:52 pm

The Raiders are the WORST FRANCHISE IN the NFL!

With that said:

Cut JaMarcus Russell RIGHT NOW

Year-End:

Fire Tom Cable
Fire the entire coaching staff
Cut Cornell Green
Cut Cooper Carlisle
Cut Samson Satele
Cut Darius Heyward Bey
Cut Gerard Warren
Cut Tommy Kelly

Restructure or Cut:
Michael Huff
Justin Fargas

========================

ok….Who replaces them via draft and/or free agency?

and how did they beat Pittsburgh, Philly and Cincy, “fan”?

]]> By: ohioraider http://www.ibabuzz.com/oaklandraiders/2009/12/16/no-breakthrough-in-sight-for-jamarcus/comment-page-9/#comment-211117 ohioraider Thu, 17 Dec 2009 17:04:22 +0000 http://www.ibabuzz.com/oaklandraiders/?p=8924#comment-211117 Cable could be a decent coach if he was left alone. The team could return to glory with a diminished role for Al. The system screws up everything. Cable could be a decent coach if he was left alone. The team could return to glory with a diminished role for Al. The system screws up everything.

]]> By: ohioraider http://www.ibabuzz.com/oaklandraiders/2009/12/16/no-breakthrough-in-sight-for-jamarcus/comment-page-9/#comment-211091 ohioraider Thu, 17 Dec 2009 16:40:03 +0000 http://www.ibabuzz.com/oaklandraiders/?p=8924#comment-211091 Please submit your nominations to this board. Thank you. Please submit your nominations to this board. Thank you.

]]> By: Silver-n-Smac http://www.ibabuzz.com/oaklandraiders/2009/12/16/no-breakthrough-in-sight-for-jamarcus/comment-page-9/#comment-211080 Silver-n-Smac Thu, 17 Dec 2009 16:24:25 +0000 http://www.ibabuzz.com/oaklandraiders/?p=8924#comment-211080 • jhill Says: December 16th, 2009 at 5:58 pm Is there ANYONE in here who actually believes this isn’t about Tom Cable? Do you really think this isn’t Cable auditioning for next year? If he loses this weekend, isn’t he gone? Do you think AL is getting rid of the coach and the QB? _____________________________________________________ Jhill – First off – good morning! Hey man – what does this mean? Of course Cable is doing everything he can to win. He owes it to himself and the other 52 guys in that locker room. Look, it made total, absolute sense to play JaMarcus the majority (if not all) of this season. The Raiders HAD to find out if the kid is ready or not. As all of you love to mention, they paid the kid a ton of money. So we had to find out. It’s not a case of Cable being a puppet or not. But, you also have to move on when it’s crystal clear that the kid is not ready yet. And that’s what Cable did. Why does he get all this shiot around here for what he’s doing now? Al wanted JaMarcus given every opportunity to succeed and Cable did that. And now it’s time to move on for these remaining games. And as for our previous conversation: Are you seriously telling me there’s something about Jim Caldwell (sp?) in Indy that really impresses you over Cable? You really are enamored with his coaching? Could it have anything to do with good QB play. . . and good play by players in general? How can you say things like “Cable just got lucky in Cincy?”. Come on man – give credit when credit is due – the entire team deserves credit when they win, and that includes the coach. As I keep saying, when Cable’s gotten good QB play, we’ve won almost every time. Problem is that we’ve rarely had good QB play in his tenure. The common link? JaMarcus Russell. As much as I’ve supported him, he’s sucked – and as a result – Cable has suffered the consequences. Look no further than the Washington game. First half – Raiders are dominating the game (regardless of the score). If the normally-reliable Zach Miller makes that catch at the 15 yard line (perfect throw, perfect play-call), we’re going into half-time up 17-10. Second half – horrible QB play, coupled with team basically laying down – result? Loss. How can you put that on Cable? A coach cannot be asked to make a guy show inner pride & heart. That’s on the player. The team basically conceded defeat when Russell came in the game. How can you blame the coach when you lose 38-0 at home? JaMarcus comes in and immediately spots the Jets 14 points and the rest of the team lays down for the remainder of the game. This is a mentally weak football team. Sure, not a good play call by Cable to ask J-Russ to throw deep from his own goal line. But come on man – does that warrant a total team collapse? Give me a break. Some of you fellas put WAY too much emphasis on the impact of a coach on an NFL game. Coaches can make a difference when you have a marginally good team. When you have either a mentally weak team, or horrible QB play – there’s only so much a coach can do.\ Never has that been more evident than in the play of the Raiders this year: Good QB play = success. Bad QB play = failure. The coaches success or lack thereof is a direct result of that. • jhill Says:
December 16th, 2009 at 5:58 pm

Is there ANYONE in here who actually believes this isn’t about Tom Cable?

Do you really think this isn’t Cable auditioning for next year? If he loses this weekend, isn’t he gone?
Do you think AL is getting rid of the coach and the QB?

_____________________________________________________

Jhill –

First off – good morning!

Hey man – what does this mean? Of course Cable is doing everything he can to win. He owes it to himself and the other 52 guys in that locker room.

Look, it made total, absolute sense to play JaMarcus the majority (if not all) of this season. The Raiders HAD to find out if the kid is ready or not. As all of you love to mention, they paid the kid a ton of money. So we had to find out. It’s not a case of Cable being a puppet or not.

But, you also have to move on when it’s crystal clear that the kid is not ready yet. And that’s what Cable did. Why does he get all this shiot around here for what he’s doing now? Al wanted JaMarcus given every opportunity to succeed and Cable did that. And now it’s time to move on for these remaining games.

And as for our previous conversation: Are you seriously telling me there’s something about Jim Caldwell (sp?) in Indy that really impresses you over Cable? You really are enamored with his coaching? Could it have anything to do with good QB play. . . and good play by players in general?

How can you say things like “Cable just got lucky in Cincy?”. Come on man – give credit when credit is due – the entire team deserves credit when they win, and that includes the coach.

As I keep saying, when Cable’s gotten good QB play, we’ve won almost every time. Problem is that we’ve rarely had good QB play in his tenure. The common link? JaMarcus Russell. As much as I’ve supported him, he’s sucked – and as a result – Cable has suffered the consequences.

Look no further than the Washington game. First half – Raiders are dominating the game (regardless of the score). If the normally-reliable Zach Miller makes that catch at the 15 yard line (perfect throw, perfect play-call), we’re going into half-time up 17-10.

Second half – horrible QB play, coupled with team basically laying down – result? Loss. How can you put that on Cable? A coach cannot be asked to make a guy show inner pride & heart. That’s on the player. The team basically conceded defeat when Russell came in the game.

How can you blame the coach when you lose 38-0 at home? JaMarcus comes in and immediately spots the Jets 14 points and the rest of the team lays down for the remainder of the game.

This is a mentally weak football team. Sure, not a good play call by Cable to ask J-Russ to throw deep from his own goal line. But come on man – does that warrant a total team collapse? Give me a break.

Some of you fellas put WAY too much emphasis on the impact of a coach on an NFL game. Coaches can make a difference when you have a marginally good team. When you have either a mentally weak team, or horrible QB play – there’s only so much a coach can do.\

Never has that been more evident than in the play of the Raiders this year:

Good QB play = success. Bad QB play = failure.

The coaches success or lack thereof is a direct result of that.

]]> By: 4evaRaider http://www.ibabuzz.com/oaklandraiders/2009/12/16/no-breakthrough-in-sight-for-jamarcus/comment-page-9/#comment-211077 4evaRaider Thu, 17 Dec 2009 16:22:09 +0000 http://www.ibabuzz.com/oaklandraiders/?p=8924#comment-211077 new post new post

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