McFadden strictly a singles hitter
By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Thursday, December 17th, 2009 at 3:51 pm in Oakland Raiders.
News, notes and quotes Thursday from the Raiders open locker room, practice and post-practice press briefing from coach Tom Cable:
– The word on Darren McFadden coming out of the draft is that he had touchdown-on-any-play capability. He was the kind of home run threat Al Davis loves, hence McFadden’s status as the No. 4 overall pick in the 2008 draft.
So how come there have been 277 touchdown runs in the NFL this season and none of them are from McFadden?
Correction: There have been 277 runs of 20 yards or more in the NFL this year, and none of them are from McFadden.
Tennessee’s Chris Johnson, pursuing a 2,000-yard season and taken 20 selections after McFadden, has 20 all by himself.
Johnson and McFadden were the two fastest backs at the NFL scouting combine, with Johnson timing 4.24 in the 40-yard dash and McFadden 4.33.
Yet McFadden has only four runs of 20 or more yards in 22 NFL games and they all came in the same game _ a 21-carry, 164-yard effort in Week 2 against Kansas City that included his longest run, a 50-yarder. McFadden’s longest run from scrimmage this season is 15 yards against Denver in Week 3.
“This is the NFL. I think your ability to have people miss at that level is much different than this level,” Raiders coach Tom Cable said. “People are surer tacklers and it’s just a matter of getting into space and creating it.”
Cable thinks McFadden’s big runs from scrimmage have been held back in part because of his troubles with injuries, turf toe last season and arthroscopic knee surgery for a torn meniscus this year.
“He’s been in for three, maybe four games at most and then back out for a month,” Cable said. “I think just the consistency of being healthy and being able to feel it and stay in there.”
– Tight end Zach Miller will undergo testing Friday to determine whether he is fit to play against Denver after having two concussions since Oct. 4.
Miller is the Raiders’ leading receiver over the last three seasons with 150 receptions for 1,879 yards and six touchdowns in 42 starts. He’s never missed a game due to injury. Cable wouldn’t say whether Tony Stewart or rookie Brandon Myers would start if Miller can’t play.
– Those who sat out practice along with Miller were wide receiver/returns specialist Nick Miller (tibia), quarterback Bruce Gradkowski (knees) and defensive end Greg Ellis (knee). Defensive end Matt Shaughnessy was limited with a groin injury which shouldn’t keep him out of the Denver game. Center Samson Satele (calf) and safety Michael Huff (stinger) made it all the way through practice.
– Denver cornerback Champ Bailey has been shadowing the team’s best receiver this season in defensive coordinator Mike Nolan’s system, a welcome challenge for the 11-year veteran. He’s got a lot of respect for younger corners considered the NFL’s new elite, Oakland’s Nnamdi Asomugha and the Jets’ Darrelle Revis, in particular, but isn’t about to say they’ve passed him by.
“These guys, they deserve the credit they’re getting,” Baileysaid. “They’re great players. They’re young, and they’re looking for the next great one. I had that title for a while. It’s only a matter of time before somebody younger comes up, and that’s what makes this league great.
“I’m at least equal. At least. I don’t look at them enough. I watch them but I don’t look at them enough to compare ourselves. But I know I’m matching up on the best guy every week and not a lot of guys do that. There’s a few that can do it and be successful at it.
“I’ve seen guys try and falter. I’ve got to give those two guys credit. They’re pretty damn good corners. They have a lot of work to do. They have to do it for a number of years, and I think they can do it.”
The Raiders have been utlizing three wide receivers of late _ flankers Chaz Schilens and Louis Murphy and split end Johnnie Lee Higgins. Bailey doesn’t have a great deal of information on any of them, given their inexperience.
“They’re young so I know they’re hungry. That’s one thing I notice about them on film is they play hard,” Bailey said. “When you’ve got guys out there playing hard, regardless of how much experience they have, it’s going to be a tough task for you.”
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December 17th, 2009 at 3:54 pm
first
December 17th, 2009 at 3:54 pm
i dont get the title of this post?
December 17th, 2009 at 3:55 pm
“This is the NFL. I think your ability to have people miss at that level is much different than this level,” Raiders coach Tom Cable said. “People are surer tacklers and it’s just a matter of getting into space and creating it.”
Cable thinks McFadden’s big runs from scrimmage have been held back in part because of his troubles with injuries, turf toe last season and arthroscopic knee surgery for a torn meniscus this year.
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Don’t worry Cable, McFadden’s next coach will figure it out…now go back to eating your boogers you fat mouth breather.
December 17th, 2009 at 3:56 pm
Richochet’s on for $100. Anyone else have the balls to put their money where they’re mouth is? If you don’t think Russell will be our starter next year, man up and name a wager. Typical Raider fans. All talk, like the team, like the organization, like the culture! All talk, no action. Bunch of punks.
December 17th, 2009 at 3:56 pm
first
December 17th, 2009 at 3:57 pm
fifth
December 17th, 2009 at 3:58 pm
Come on Cable!
It also has to do with the crappy PLAY CALLING!!
He still doesn’t know how to utilize DMC to his full potential!
One of the best WildCat RB’s ever and he has used the Wildcat sparingly….and he doesn’t get DMC the ball in space….with bubble screens, regular screens and on some big play opportunities in the slot or on wheel routes. Plus the O-Line is inconsistent along with the badly inconsistent play calling.
Give me break Cable!
December 17th, 2009 at 3:58 pm
Im a poor guy.. How about $20 MR?
December 17th, 2009 at 3:59 pm
Chris Johnson is the man though…unless of course he had been drafted by the Raiders and had to run behind this schyt o-line, with these schyt QBs with this schyt coach.
December 17th, 2009 at 3:59 pm
Dakota,
hurts doesn’t it when someone talks about your kid that way? ’tain’t unwarranted babble young man.
December 17th, 2009 at 3:59 pm
McFadden’s a WR posing as a RB. Stick him in the slot and keep him there. Throw in a reverse or two and I think we’ll see some production.
December 17th, 2009 at 3:59 pm
Cable’s a joke. All I saw in that video was Cable saying the same things fan say. That’s our head coach, a fan. The 30,001st fan! LOL. That’s the new nickname of the Oakland Raiders head coach. 30,001st Fan. Wow. I’m on a roll, cracking myself up.
December 17th, 2009 at 4:00 pm
MR?
December 17th, 2009 at 4:00 pm
MR,
the only way that you will ever pay Rico the $100 is if someone bets you $100 that you won’t pay up.
December 17th, 2009 at 4:01 pm
On my screen, post #4. is blank. did someone post there? lmfao
December 17th, 2009 at 4:01 pm
All Tom Cable was missing in that video is face paint and a giant sign that somehow has the initials “F O X” in its slogan, like all fans.
December 17th, 2009 at 4:02 pm
M Lonetree Says:
December 17th, 2009 at 3:59 pm
Dakota,
hurts doesn’t it when someone talks about your kid that way? ’tain’t unwarranted babble young man.
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I leave the taint to you M.
December 17th, 2009 at 4:02 pm
Lol, could pass that one up M.
December 17th, 2009 at 4:02 pm
# exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:
December 17th, 2009 at 4:01 pm
On my screen, post #4. is blank. did someone post there? lmfao
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There’s a post there so you got problems.
December 17th, 2009 at 4:02 pm
Or should I say…Couldn’t pass that one up M.
December 17th, 2009 at 4:02 pm
How in the hell does the post’s title tie-in to the content?!
December 17th, 2009 at 4:03 pm
I guess not MR… Now who’s the punk fool?
December 17th, 2009 at 4:03 pm
Cable would have had Chris Johnson running straight up the middle for 2-3 yrds per carry. And pulled his for asking for a breather.
December 17th, 2009 at 4:03 pm
$20, Raider E? You have a lot of confidence, don’t you? Just so you guys know, those of you who are only willing to bet a small amount are basically admitting I’m right. If you thought I was wrong, you’d bet more.
December 17th, 2009 at 4:04 pm
# the510 Says:
December 17th, 2009 at 4:02 pm
How in the hell does the post’s title tie-in to the content?!
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When does anything about the Raiders make sense. They are just being consistent.
December 17th, 2009 at 4:04 pm
Jerry
Do you have the sack to ask Al Davis the question about McFaddens production and use?
You’re a gutless wonder.
December 17th, 2009 at 4:05 pm
Raider E, you are a punk, because you’re not willing to bet a real amount. $20? That’s not a lot for anyone. If you were really that broke, you wouldn’t even take football seriously. You’re only betting $20 because you are too much of a punk to bet more. All talk. Little punk.
December 17th, 2009 at 4:05 pm
exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:
December 17th, 2009 at 4:03 pm
Cable would have had Chris Johnson running straight up the middle for 2-3 yrds per carry. And pulled his for asking for a breather.
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Exactly
Man, I can’t wait for the day he gets fired.
December 17th, 2009 at 4:06 pm
Thats a lotta god damn money to me man…still earning a degree,working dishwashing jobs in my free time.
December 17th, 2009 at 4:07 pm
Russell will be our starter next year, and I’ll be 121 dollars richer. $121. That’s how much confidence the Raider Nation has in Al Davis being smart enough to replace Russell. $121 dollars worth, with 100 of it coming from Richochet, who isn’t a fan anyway. Wow. A Nation of punks and talkers. Later.
December 17th, 2009 at 4:08 pm
I make $8.50 an hour for 4 hours a day,4 days a week. Maybe in a couple years when I have a decent job MR? its kool….
December 17th, 2009 at 4:08 pm
Raider E stop lying. If you were that poor you wouldn’t be interested enough in football to be on a blog. That’s just not the priorities of a poor man. You’re just a punk too scared to put your money where your mouth is, is what you are. LATER.
December 17th, 2009 at 4:08 pm
“and it’s just a matter of getting into space and creating it.”
And when has Cable actually gotten him in space?
He tried McFadden in the slot week one, sparingly since, and waited til last week to actually throw some passes to him?
Maybe more flips, off tackle, counter. That way when he does take it up the gut, at least the opponent is guessing.
December 17th, 2009 at 4:09 pm
So were on for $20 or what?
December 17th, 2009 at 4:09 pm
OK, OK, Who pissed in Dakotas cherrios?!!!!!!!!
December 17th, 2009 at 4:10 pm
Would you like my name so you can google it and see? I am not here very much, but I am today. If you are insulted, I apologize.
December 17th, 2009 at 4:12 pm
Raider E Says:
December 17th, 2009 at 4:06 pm
Thats a lotta god damn money to me man…still earning a degree,working dishwashing jobs in my free time.
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Got my respect.
December 17th, 2009 at 4:13 pm
Thanks
December 17th, 2009 at 4:14 pm
when satan allows al davis to die. his first round pick will be al capone. cus he has a strong arm. ahahahahahhahahahaha.
was dat funny ?
December 17th, 2009 at 4:14 pm
Reading your comments MR, I don’t know if being that interested is rewarding?
December 17th, 2009 at 4:15 pm
Can you imagine the excitement that would happen within the organization, team and Raider Nation if Chuckie Gruden were hired back??
The marketing and season ticket sales would SHOOT through the FREAKIN ROOF!!
Isn’t that a good thing?? But to an egomaniac who is delusional like Al Davis, he would rather have a crappy team, with no fans showing to the Coliseum!? Unreal!
Plus Gruden would work wonders with weapons like Vick, DMC, Bush, Miller, Schilens, JLH, and Murphy. You know damn well he would utilize Myers and some more two TE sets as well.
December 17th, 2009 at 4:17 pm
Dakota,
I’s a taint, I reckon, back yonder when Coach Davis had them dadgum Clems and Ottos playin’ like the dickens, I done haid all ma teef and some faculties, cain’t recollect what done haippen wid dem hifallutin’ bigger’n der britches rooks nowadays all fulla deyselves ‘out no willin’ness to strap it on like real men. oh, das right, dey ain’t gotta work no more. jes paid up.
December 17th, 2009 at 4:21 pm
DKnight007,
you are 100% correct. marketing…stadium would be full.
December 17th, 2009 at 4:22 pm
Al Davis has to go first before anything else will work.
“The trade took place for a number of reasons, including Davis’ desire for a more vertical passing attack rather than Gruden’s horizontal pass attack,”
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jon_Gruden
Otherwise any coach would just be undermined by Davis.
December 17th, 2009 at 4:24 pm
M Lonetree Says:
December 17th, 2009 at 4:21 pm
DKnight007,
you are 100% correct. marketing…stadium would be full.
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Basically bringing Gruden back would be a GOOD football AND business decision for the whole of “organization”!
The dumb old man doesn’t see it that way though….logic, reason, wisdom and good rationale and decision making are not in his vocabulary.
What a joke!
December 17th, 2009 at 4:27 pm
I can dream of a Holmgren-Gruden combo, right? FML.
December 17th, 2009 at 4:28 pm
I never understood why guys calls call Jamarcus a bust but they give DMC a pass. The guy has yet to take one to the house and he cant break a tackle to save his life. The one run in KC where he did get loose he got snatched from behind.
He is just a big of a bust as Jamarcus.
December 17th, 2009 at 4:30 pm
He’s not living up to the hype, but DMac ain’t no flippin’ Russell.
December 17th, 2009 at 4:33 pm
At least DMac is showing improvement.
December 17th, 2009 at 4:33 pm
Realmadden…nobody’s betting because your a Raider hater and who cares what you say? All you do is trash the Raiders. You should find a team you like and go to their blog, idiot troll.
December 17th, 2009 at 4:33 pm
McFadden was the surest thing in the 08′ Draft, no?
December 17th, 2009 at 4:34 pm
Even if it is at a completely different position than what he was drafted for.
December 17th, 2009 at 4:36 pm
Man I assess the situation for awhile and you run crazy with it.
First off, any major wagers I make aren’t going to a known liar on the internet. Just like your Russell jersey, I’m sure you have no intentions what so ever of really living up to your word.
So I don’t want to bet money, because I don’t think you will pay me.
So my bet to you is, no matter injury or what not, if Jamarcus does or doesn’t start week 1, the loser can’t return on the blog until the bye week. And no changing of your monikor, although I’m sure we will spot out your stupidity.
Deal?
December 17th, 2009 at 4:36 pm
MR left, but everyone should bet him $20 lol….
December 17th, 2009 at 4:37 pm
the510 Says:
December 17th, 2009 at 4:27 pm
I can dream of a Holmgren-Gruden combo, right? FML.
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Dude….a Holmgren-Gruden combo would be exactly what this organization needs….plus Holmgren is from the Bay Area!
But noooooooooo….the looney crazy old man who acts like a 15 year old kid doesn’t want to win that way……and doesn’t want season ticket sales to shoot through the roof…..he has to LOSE his way and no can tell him different.
The old man has the attitude of a spoiled brat!
December 17th, 2009 at 4:39 pm
He does own all the toys.
December 17th, 2009 at 4:39 pm
The510,
neither one can carry the load so what’s the dif? 25 mil for a gadget back or 30 mil for a qualmback – as Lou Reed sang, “…nothin’ happenin’ at all. Not at all!”
December 17th, 2009 at 4:40 pm
Vegas, we applaud your wanted to get rid of RM, who’s probably some fat pimply chick stuck to it’s chair in it’s own dried ooze, but you should just ignore it so it can go climb back into bed with priest.
December 17th, 2009 at 4:40 pm
Vegas,
What are the odds of drafting 3 non-productive top #7 picks in a row?
My point being, is it the player or environment?
December 17th, 2009 at 4:41 pm
# raidertay Says:
December 17th, 2009 at 4:28 pm
I never understood why guys calls call Jamarcus a bust but they give DMC a pass. The guy has yet to take one to the house and he cant break a tackle to save his life. The one run in KC where he did get loose he got snatched from behind.
He is just a big of a bust as Jamarcus.
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Ok…DMC is as big a bust as Russell.
Bey is on track to be as big a bust as both of them.
There..feel better?
I know I do
December 17th, 2009 at 4:43 pm
Patch work O line and the FACT we haven’t given DMC a blocking FB has something to do with his under production AL!!!!
You spend the money on two big name college super stars to spark your offense then saddle them with rookie wides, sh*tty O line cast offs and pass catching FBs.
Everyone knew Oren O ‘Neil was a big risk.
Jay zuz, its tough bein a Raiders fan…
December 17th, 2009 at 4:44 pm
KoolKell Says:
December 17th, 2009 at 4:40 pm
Vegas,
What are the odds of drafting 3 non-productive top #7 picks in a row?
My point being, is it the player or environment?
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Have to add Gallery and Michael Huff in the mix of sh*t draft picks too mind you.
ITS AL!!!
December 17th, 2009 at 4:45 pm
Kool,
Not as off as you would think.
When you look at all the crap in the NFL, Rams, Raiders, Browns, Bucs, Lions…..they all have been awful in the draft, and in the top 10.
The Lions drafted WR’s in back to back years, and they were both awful. Rams had the #2 pick the last two year, Chris Long and Jason Smith, ever heard of ‘em?
Point is, it isn’t uncommon amongst the bad teams in the league. They all flop in the draft, or developing (chicken or egg) the talent, and are right back picking in the top 10.
Rams might have the #2 pick three years in a row. Has that ever happened?
December 17th, 2009 at 4:45 pm
DKnight007 Says:
December 17th, 2009 at 4:37 pm
the510 Says:
December 17th, 2009 at 4:27 pm
I can dream of a Holmgren-Gruden combo, right? FML.
^^^^^^^^^^
Dude….a Holmgren-Gruden combo would be exactly what this organization needs….plus Holmgren is from the Bay Area!
But noooooooooo….the looney crazy old man who acts like a 15 year old kid doesn’t want to win that way……and doesn’t want season ticket sales to shoot through the roof…..he has to LOSE his way and no can tell him different.
The old man has the attitude of a spoiled brat!
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i don’t think it’s a matter of being spoiled, i think it’s a matter of bridges burned. who wants to work for the man?? he’s jaded so many people around the league and word is finally starting to hold water. it’s the worst job in the NFL. now, we can only get has-beens and guys who are grossly under-qualified to be head coaches.
we;re never gonna get a REAL NFL coach until either al is in the ground OR he finally realizes his stanglehold of a once flag-ship franchise is killing it’s identity.
December 17th, 2009 at 4:48 pm
Good to hear about Branch from the previous story. Been sayin it for some time now. “Safety first!”
Some good news in raiderland.
Sit Zach Miller. No need to waste him on a sh*t season end.
December 17th, 2009 at 4:49 pm
66. Holmgren met with the Browns today…
December 17th, 2009 at 4:51 pm
Mike Holmgren flopped as a GM in Seattle, and had to be removed from coach-GM to just coach.
Go look it as his draft picks when he was in charge. Talking first round picks who played 20 games and were out of the league forever.
December 17th, 2009 at 4:51 pm
dmc needs to stay healthy, then he needs a coach that will give hime the ball enough to see what he is made of. Great backs wear out the defense and then do lots of damage in the second half, dmc can do that plus he has the gift of sudden explosion, these are most potent in the secon half. Also you have to be in the game after halftime in order to get this done, cable teams are normally out of it by the third quarter. Cable must go.
December 17th, 2009 at 4:52 pm
But I would love to have Holmgren assemble a coaching staff.
He was an X and O’s genius.
December 17th, 2009 at 4:53 pm
I thought we were done with the gruden thing hes not comming the inly realistic choices will be Trestman, Rathman combo pack, wiess, gilbride and fassel. get over it.
December 17th, 2009 at 4:57 pm
i don’t think it’s a matter of being spoiled, i think it’s a matter of bridges burned. who wants to work for the man?? he’s jaded so many people around the league and word is finally starting to hold water. it’s the worst job in the NFL. now, we can only get has-beens and guys who are grossly under-qualified to be head coaches.
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Worse then detroit, cleveland, st lois, houston, tampa, chicago, kc? Really?
Gruden was not grossly under qualified neither was flores or madden.
December 17th, 2009 at 4:57 pm
Actually, Mcfadden does have one touchdown run, the game winning score against Kansas City earlier in the season. Secondly, what do you expect with one of the worst play callers in the league in Tom Cable. Even with Gradkowski in, teams could pretty much bet the farm that we would run on first down.
December 17th, 2009 at 4:57 pm
Vegas Raider Says:
December 17th, 2009 at 4:45 pm
Kool,
Not as off as you would think.
When you look at all the crap in the NFL, Rams, Raiders, Browns, Bucs, Lions…..they all have been awful in the draft, and in the top 10.
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So being bad is institutional?
December 17th, 2009 at 4:58 pm
I got a twitter from DMunoz 26 about five minutes ago. He says look for Bush to be traded to the Patriots in the off season, possibly for a 6th rounder. Also, Munoz’s source said that Davis was really close to trading Bush for Ochocinco last year but Cable talked him out of it.
December 17th, 2009 at 4:59 pm
Cable one of the worse play callers of the modern era.
December 17th, 2009 at 4:59 pm
Good Night Nation!
December 17th, 2009 at 5:00 pm
Cable is mike white with a gut and a domestic case
December 17th, 2009 at 5:00 pm
Fassel for our Fossil likely. who f’in knows?! Isn’t there a 22 yr old high school coach somewhere who Al thinks could be the next Madden?
December 17th, 2009 at 5:01 pm
I do believe Bush will be traded.
December 17th, 2009 at 5:01 pm
mistic1 Says:
December 17th, 2009 at 4:59 pm
Cable one of the worse play callers of the modern era.
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Might be him and a combo of our offense not smart or ready enough to run all the play book from the sound of it.
Jay-zuz…
December 17th, 2009 at 5:02 pm
Being bad is a revolving cycle, and takes tough-minded solf-motivated individuals to overcome it.
Think Gruden and Gannon for the Raiders, Schottenheimer for the Browns, Gruden and Dungy and Derrick Brooks for the Bucs, and Warner, Faulk and Vermeil for the Rams. Don’t know who the Lions ever had, and they have never been good.
But other than when those players/coaches were there for those teams, they all pretty much suck, year in and year out.
December 17th, 2009 at 5:02 pm
KoolKell Says:
December 17th, 2009 at 5:01 pm
I do believe Bush will be traded.
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Package Russell and Bush to Denver for a 4th round pick so they can torture us for the next 15 yrs with Hall of Fame careers.
December 17th, 2009 at 5:03 pm
Peace owt Brethren!
December 17th, 2009 at 5:05 pm
Nail on the head vegas,
As painful as it is we must start over. Who is cable’s guy? Fargas? That simply wont cut it.
December 17th, 2009 at 5:07 pm
With J.P. Losman and Jim Fassel, this team could win the divison. They are both proven winners.
December 17th, 2009 at 5:09 pm
Vegas Raider Says:
December 17th, 2009 at 5:02 pm
Being bad is a revolving cycle, and takes tough-minded solf-motivated individuals to overcome it.
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Good answer. But tough-minded is not on Al Davis draft chart.
December 17th, 2009 at 5:11 pm
Trade Bush and a 3rd for a real RB!!
Marshawn Lynch, Jonathan Stewart, Chester Taylor.
Someone who can actually break a tackle and have a 20 yard run occasionally.
Someone who doesn’t have to be taken out because: they can’t catch, can’t block, can’t run between the tackles, can’t have more than 5 carries, can’t stop fumbling, can’t stop trying to leap over guys in the backfield, or can’t stop slipping in the open field.
You know, an everydown NFL back. When was the last time we had one, Marcus Allen? Jackson didn’t play enough, and Harvy Williams and Charie Garner are probably the closest ones to good NFL back the last 20 years. Pathetic!!
This 1-2 crap, even 1-2-3 crap. I fkn hate it!!
December 17th, 2009 at 5:12 pm
# Raiders Grief Counselor Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
December 17th, 2009 at 4:58 pm
I got a twitter from DMunoz 26 about five minutes ago. He says look for Bush to be traded to the Patriots in the off season, possibly for a 6th rounder. Also, Munoz’s source said that Davis was really close to trading Bush for Ochocinco last year but Cable talked him out of it.
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Why would we trade Bush, probably our best RB in the long run, to the Patriots for a 6th round pick? If you said a second round or even a 3rd & 6th, it would be more believable. Bush is in Cable’s doghouse because I believe he was campaigning for Gruden as a HC. At least that’s what I heard.
December 17th, 2009 at 5:14 pm
Whats up Kell, Vegas? I am so stoked about the Super Bowl. Who will the Chargers defeat to win the championship? I think it will be the Vikings. Chargers 27, Vikings 24. You all coming to my party?
December 17th, 2009 at 5:15 pm
And the new head coach of the RAIDERS is.????????????????? any kunt with blonde hair and boyish looks ,,to suit MR gnite sweety,,and BHP,,stfu.
December 17th, 2009 at 5:15 pm
Vegas Raider Says:
December 17th, 2009 at 5:11 pm
Trade Bush and a 3rd for a real RB!!
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I think Bush is the “realist?” RB on the roster.
December 17th, 2009 at 5:15 pm
JB, if you like bush you should come to my Super Bowl party, gonna be plenty of there!
December 17th, 2009 at 5:16 pm
All right I started David Garrard tonight over Donovan McNabb in the FFL semi-finals.
Think the Colts might rest a few key guys tonight.
December 17th, 2009 at 5:17 pm
Vegas, you live in Vegas? I coming there after the Chargers win the Super Bowl!
December 17th, 2009 at 5:17 pm
This is the first time I’ve ever had Patrone, smoooooove.
December 17th, 2009 at 5:19 pm
Actually Mr is right ,,”blah blah”,,Gm onwards ,,go the billboard brigade,,honourable mention to Kell,,maybe,,put it together team and lets see some football!
December 17th, 2009 at 5:21 pm
# Charged Up for Superbowl Victory Says:
December 17th, 2009 at 5:15 pm
JB, if you like bush you should come to my Super Bowl party, gonna be plenty of there!
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I’m surprised you’re having a party for the big game between the Saints & Colts. It should be a real barnburner.
It’s interesting to note that there is still a possibility to have a SB of two undefeated teams. The winner of which will establish a record that could never be beat.
December 17th, 2009 at 5:21 pm
Me, my crew, and some pretty ladies are going to party it up on the strip!
December 17th, 2009 at 5:22 pm
Jones-Drew can return kicks for the Jags, but McFadden can’t return kicks for the Raiders.
Amazing at times isn’t it??
December 17th, 2009 at 5:25 pm
Vegas Raider Says:
December 17th, 2009 at 5:22 pm
Jones-Drew can return kicks for the Jags, but McFadden can’t return kicks for the Raiders.
Amazing at times isn’t it??
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You like ideologues, no?
December 17th, 2009 at 5:28 pm
Me, my crew, and some pretty ladies are going to party it up on the strip!
And yet your here on a RAIDERS blog? lol go “do” some musak,,
December 17th, 2009 at 5:30 pm
Kell,,your point is?,,same as all have been sayin..or most with brains!
December 17th, 2009 at 5:30 pm
Mac Says:
December 17th, 2009 at 5:28 pm
Me, my crew, and some pretty ladies are going to party it up on the strip!
And yet your here on a RAIDERS blog? lol go “do” some musak,,
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Thank-you.
December 17th, 2009 at 5:31 pm
Check you all later, I have a hot date with my new girl Candy.
December 17th, 2009 at 5:31 pm
floss?
December 17th, 2009 at 5:34 pm
Nice block Eugene Monroe!!!
Boy sure wish we had that.
That was pathetic!!!
December 17th, 2009 at 5:35 pm
luv ya kell,,old school bitch,lol 06 was a good time to blog,,keep the faith,,lol,,cya,xx
December 17th, 2009 at 5:40 pm
Chargerdown
SD Discharge
Regular Season Record (all-time) : 372-370-11
Playoff Record (all-time) : 10-15 (Last appearance after 2008 season)
Super Bowls Won: 0 out of 1 appearance
Championships Won: 1
Oakland Raiders
Regular Season Record (all-time) : 409-333-11
Playoff Record (all-time) : 25-18 (Last appearance after 2002 season)
Super Bowls Won: 3 out of 5 appearances
Championships Won: 3
December 17th, 2009 at 5:43 pm
i am govenor jerry brown my aura smiles and never frowns soon i will be president,,lol dk,,1980
December 17th, 2009 at 5:44 pm
Plunketthead
no need ,,they know,,
December 17th, 2009 at 5:44 pm
Man Peyton gets rid of the ball always a fraction of second before the rush can get there.
Amazing QB.
December 17th, 2009 at 5:47 pm
ok,,towell of somewere vg,,tivo it and relax,kiddin,,nice to see a real QB in action tho.
December 17th, 2009 at 5:48 pm
especially on tivo?
December 17th, 2009 at 5:50 pm
Sorry Mac, not trying to gush. Everytime you think you got him, he whirls around and drops a dime.
December 17th, 2009 at 5:52 pm
that guy dont lose quarters,,he hits the dollar mark
December 17th, 2009 at 5:54 pm
Peyton is dropping some major deuces on the field.
December 17th, 2009 at 5:57 pm
twos?,the guy gets to call his own plays,,who was probably the last to call his own plays?
December 17th, 2009 at 5:59 pm
vg,,no probs man,,just kiddin,you got some some good points tho,xcuse the pun.
December 17th, 2009 at 5:59 pm
We need Offensive line, defensive line, linebackers, resign our QBs, cut Jameatloaf, we also need another Wrs, too many needs to just solve it through the draft. I think AL better start planning especially since Seymour will definitely get franchise tagged or resigned with over 30 mil guaranteed. We need new GM and really a new philosophy. No more vertical passing and man to man defense when our we clearly have defensive problems. Man to man is essentially good mix with zone coverage but not 80% of the game. We also need a new coach, new OC, new ST coach, some many needs to get back to wining. If we remain under this current, we would end up with another 5 years of losing seasons.
December 17th, 2009 at 5:59 pm
some some?wtf,,lol
December 17th, 2009 at 6:02 pm
seymour dont like the “tag” and thats probably part of the reason he signed,,”mr” you watchin,,maybe not but he signed anyhoo,,for get that,,yes both sides of the line need addressed,,heavily
December 17th, 2009 at 6:09 pm
gnite from gods country,,keepthe faith,,,,mr,,lol
December 17th, 2009 at 6:09 pm
“McFadden strictly a singles hitter”
Smooth line Jerry.
Great, we got Rod Carew at RB. How many times did Carew go to the playoffs? Not many.
December 17th, 2009 at 6:16 pm
Not sure why you don’t like Monroe. Him or Oher would have been fine additions. You know, the best Oline guys prior to the combine.
December 17th, 2009 at 6:19 pm
I’m just poking fun J, I’m sure he will end up being more productive than DHB. But that was a massive wiff!!
December 17th, 2009 at 6:25 pm
JHill,
Been reading about this T from Maryland that is supposed to run a 4.7 or something like that. If we ever were to go O-line in the 1st, there’s your guy!!
December 17th, 2009 at 6:27 pm
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December 17th, 2009 at 6:28 pm
#124, Raiders4eve, you are absolutely correct.
Offensive line, defensive line, and linebackers, that’s what we need. Specifically an offensive tackle, a defensive tackle, and a middle linebacker.
God help us!
Resign the three QBs and drop JR down the nearest elevator shaft or trade him to New England.
December 17th, 2009 at 6:46 pm
Are the Jags running the ZBS?
It looks like it.
December 17th, 2009 at 6:51 pm
Kirk
Its just easier said then done. You already have MR. vegas looking at a tackle with 4.7 speed rather than looking at size and weight. Look at the Vikings Offensive line, 6′7 or 6′8 huge bodies weighting at least 325 lbs. We dont need no 300 lbs 6′2 or 6′3 linemen running 4.7. We need guys who been playing football with mean perspective. Guys like MLB Spikes, NT Cody or LT like T Williams. We need skills and play making abilities. I just dont see AL scouting the right people if he only sees speed as the main attribute. I remember hearing Todd McShay saying that the Raiders will pick a raw talent in DE Dunlap. Now if that happens, its another reach for a kid with off the field issues who is expected to fall to second round.
December 17th, 2009 at 6:59 pm
with the Raiders current schedule, the Raiders have the 7th Overall Pick again in the Draft again for next year….who will the Raiders draft then? Dont think SUH will be there but the DT or DE from Texas (Kindle) and the kid from Florida who passed out drunk on the steering wheel at a light might be there too….Raiders need DL, OL, LB in next years draft
December 17th, 2009 at 7:01 pm
I see the Patron is treating you nice Kool, LOL
December 17th, 2009 at 7:26 pm
Raiders4eve, Al thinks he is smarter than everyone else, so he refuses to take the obvious choice. All he ends up doing is out smarting himself.
December 17th, 2009 at 7:31 pm
My wife went to Bev&Mo and bought me a bottle of Patrone. I’m so lucky.
Of course after the b, talked me into declaring my Cohibas at customs, which were confiscated.
Fellas be nice to those ladies, and they’ll be nice to you!!!
December 17th, 2009 at 8:13 pm
Colts win! Good, I want them to be undefeated when the Chargers knock them out of the playoffs.
December 17th, 2009 at 8:21 pm
Your a Charger (Raider hiding in the closet) fan that has high hopes!!
December 17th, 2009 at 8:45 pm
How can you possibly see downfield, side to side with all that iron in your face?
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/object/article?f=/c/a/2009/12/17/SPGN1B5GD1.DTL&o=1
December 17th, 2009 at 8:46 pm
Here’s how you see with no iron in your face.
http://vmedia.rivals.com/uploads/1164/F397440.jpg
December 17th, 2009 at 9:12 pm
No more stories on DHB mom reading the blogs , nothing like drafting a wr no.7 and you have to work on his catching the ball . Where all the big mouths talking about how much better he is than Crabtree Ha Ha guy misses all of training camp and what 5-6 games and he still is light yearss ahead of dhb. DHB just lucky he plays with the biggest bust ever or he would be catching a lot more grief. Dilfer+1
December 17th, 2009 at 10:00 pm
DHB’s mom reads this blog?
December 17th, 2009 at 10:01 pm
Good night Nation!
December 17th, 2009 at 10:11 pm
I don’t know if she reads this exact one but read a story on her a while back that she was getting real upset reading all the slamming of her son in blogs and tb\v about her son of course what good mom wouldn’t .
December 17th, 2009 at 10:16 pm
Y can Al still make great later round picks but struggle so bad in 1
December 17th, 2009 at 10:37 pm
Maybe someone needs to remind Al that the foeld is 100 yards long and taking guys who have a great 40 yard time but gas out before the 100 yard mark isn’t working out. Maybe that’s why DMac is running KOR’s. If you think about it, he really hasn’t run away from anyone on a long one. Someone, including our WR’s seem to catch up fairly easy. Maybe that’s DMac’s dirty little secret. He’s good for a 40yard sprint but not much more than that. Think about it.
December 17th, 2009 at 10:42 pm
Corrected version:
Maybe someone needs to remind Al that the field is 100 yards long and taking guys who have a great 40 yard time but gas out before the 100 yard mark, isn’t working out. Maybe that’s why DMac isn’t running any KOR’s. If you think about it, he really hasn’t run away from anyone for a long one. Someone, including our WR’s, seem to catch up fairly easy. Maybe that’s DMac’s dirty little secret. He’s good for a 40 yard sprint but not for much more than that. Think about it.
December 17th, 2009 at 10:43 pm
BlackSunday32 Says:
December 17th, 2009 at 10:16 pm
Y can Al still make great later round picks but struggle so bad in 1
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I think if you actually broke down the drafts, you’d find they were bad in most rounds.
My guess is that Al doesn’t know enough about the round seven picks to make a decision on, and leaves it to the scouts to make the call.
December 17th, 2009 at 10:46 pm
JB,
Yeah you’re right. But that’s what happens when player are drafted off their 40 time instead of their football speed.
Jerry Rice is the classic example of that. He clocked a 4.60 leading up to the draft. But going off the college game film, you could see that no one could touch him.
December 17th, 2009 at 10:50 pm
It’s a real shame on all the top performers we’ve passed up in exchange for all the turkeys we brought aboard. We could have had a couple of top WR’s, top LT’s, top RB’s – playmakers all. We end up with a big dummy at QB, a receiver who can’t catch, a Safety who has yet to distinguish himself, the list goes on. I will give credit where credit is due. We do have the best kicking duo in the league. Lechler and SeaBass are top notch. But, that’s about it.
December 17th, 2009 at 11:17 pm
NorthernD Says:
December 17th, 2009 at 10:46 pm
JB,
Yeah you’re right. But that’s what happens when player are drafted off their 40 time instead of their football speed.
Jerry Rice is the classic example of that. He clocked a 4.60 leading up to the draft. But going off the college game film, you could see that no one could touch him.
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Jerry had game speed. In his youth he outran alot of pursuers.
December 17th, 2009 at 11:22 pm
I think McFadden would gain huge yards for the Titans. If he had a line that blew giant holes for him to sprint untouched thru he’d be golden. we ain’t got that…
STILL he should be being utilized like Reggie Bush and Westbrook.
Saw alittle of it but its the end of the f’in season!!!
Weapons and speed on that team not being utilized obviously.
I think Grad showed a decent QB that could manage the UNIT not just the offense but the guys standing there looking at the screen or thinking about Burger King.
Thats NOT Russell. He’s laid back when he needs to be the clear vocal Leader.
Apparently he doesn’t know enough to tell people what to do better when they f’ up anyway.
Dam shame he seems to be letting a great opportunity slip by cuz he’s young, lazy and fabulously wealthy.
A hole
December 17th, 2009 at 11:22 pm
Players should be drafted off of film study, not 40 times. I watched 10 minutes of film and could tell that Crabtree was a better receiver than DHB. He was quicker and more elusive. He looked like Gale Sayers. If I could see that, why couldn’t Al?
December 17th, 2009 at 11:29 pm
Nnamdi21,
I think McFadden’s future is going more to a WR role than RB. He doesn’t seem to be able to break tackles or make anyone miss at the NFL level.
It would be nice to see if he is a back who gets better after 20 carries, but unless he breaks some runs early, then he’ll keep getting swapped out with Fargas.
He may eventually be what DHB is supposed to be.
December 17th, 2009 at 11:32 pm
comparing McFadden to Johnson seems logical. Same draft, close 40 time,etc.
The difference with Johnson that he plays faster than McFadden. He doesn’t lose speed before his cuts and can maintain his footing when he makes them.
I don’t know if McFadden is still hurting from that turf toe, but I’ve never seen a back slip as much as he does.
December 17th, 2009 at 11:41 pm
You’re right but when miss on someone in 4 rd and later not so bad these early round bust, if you are drafting top 10 every year where is all the talent.
December 17th, 2009 at 11:45 pm
Northern,
DMC looks great at wide by comparison to our other guys. Like him lined up in the slot and out wide. He’s made good grabs at both. Better hands than Bey sad to say.
Yeah, DMC can’t get away from anyone it seems alway getting dropped open field by one guy in space. CONSTANTLY.
Looks like he’s slackin almost. Afraid of contact with his legs.
Ill and under utilized but until we give him a BLOCKING fullback and a solid interior line, verdicts still out for me…
December 17th, 2009 at 11:45 pm
Kirk Says:
December 17th, 2009 at 11:22 pm
Players should be drafted off of film study, not 40 times. I watched 10 minutes of film and could tell that Crabtree was a better receiver than DHB. He was quicker and more elusive. He looked like Gale Sayers. If I could see that, why couldn’t Al?
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The main problem with the 40 time, IMO, is that players are training just for the 40. They know if they get a good time at the combine, it could make them millions extra.
Ben Johnson ran a 9.79 in the 80’s, but it was because he had an unusual starting technique. He would be 2 yards ahead of the other sprinters at the ten yard mark. If they were to race from a standing position like WR’s do, then Johnson would be nowhere near the fastest runner.
DHB had great sprinting technique and posted a 4.28. His game speed is nowhere close to that.
If two players are evaluated to be equal on the football field, then take the one with the faster 40.
But Crabtree was clearly a better football player than DHB.
December 17th, 2009 at 11:50 pm
Nnamdi21
Yeah, I’d give him another year too.
The one thing that concerns me is the size of calves.
He has no muscle below his knees. Really wierd looking.
I wonder if that has some effect on his ability to make cuts, drive the pile, etc.
Barry Sanders had thick ankles and never once had an ankle injury. In spite of all the viscious changes of direction he made.
December 18th, 2009 at 2:07 am
LOL. I’ve never seen so many excuses in my life for not wanting to bet, especially from a guy named “Vegas Raider”. You know what? Forget it. It’s off the table now. I challenged anyone here to bet me if they thought Russell wouldn’t start next year, and here’s the takers:
Richochet – $100
E Raider, or whatever his name is, – $20
408 Raider – 1 dollar
Vegas Raider – not willing to bet any cash, offered to instead wager the right to comment here. In other words, he wussed out.
Why do I get the feeling that if I were to bet you guys that the Detroit Lions would go undefeated next year, you would have offered up anything as a wager, rather you thought I’d pay up or not? You know nobody’s really going to pay anyone, anyway. It’s all about credibility. And that’s why you transparent fools are playing close to the vest, except for Richochet, who’s probably just trying to stir up shyt anyway. You don’t want to look like fools when next September comes, Russell is starting, and I’m reminding you how much you’d be willing to bet that he wouldn’t be. You guys know Russell’s starting next year. You’re just a bunch of wishful thinkers in denial of it. The amount of money you guys were willing to bet on Russell not starting reveals what you really think. Just like last summer when I asked the kool aid drinkers to predict our record this year. Oh, that reminds me. I’ve got to go back and pull up some of those predictions. LOL. See yall tomorrow.
December 18th, 2009 at 2:57 am
MR:
As I told you two days ago, betting on what Al might or might not do is a suckers bet.
December 18th, 2009 at 3:04 am
Woke up this morning and there’s about four inches of snow on the ground.
That really sucks.
Now if I was Mr, I’d blame Al Davis.
December 18th, 2009 at 3:19 am
Morning NATION!!!!
December 18th, 2009 at 3:34 am
Vegas has the right idea,even tho MR is right also.There is no way 2 make someone pay money as MR said,its all about credibility.So Vegas makes it so the debt,whoever looses can pay….by not posting 4 predetermined amount of time.I made a bet with Happy Troll that if the Denver Broncos beat da Raiders I could no longer use the derogatory names that I use 2 describe the Broncos.Well Happy Troll won the bet and I have lived up 2 my end of the bet by ALWAYS refeering 2 them as The Denver Broncos….
Happy Troll….we need 2 talk before Sunday Brother….
And no I wasnt praying to the porcelain God I was BANNED 4awhile.Thankx 4 your concern Happy Troll
December 18th, 2009 at 5:28 am
Pete….what ever you do,dont let #2 know where the “other” half of that Big Mac is lol!!!!
December 18th, 2009 at 5:40 am
Y at combine don’t test guys on how fast they are once they catch the ball just sprinting in no-pads like sprinters is so stupid, wonder how bad Frye will look guy couldn’t beat out D.Anderson not a good sign.
December 18th, 2009 at 5:41 am
Where has priest gonna always need my optimist and Silver and Smac is good but only priest knows about Nicky Miller db killa!
December 18th, 2009 at 5:47 am
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December 18th, 2009 at 5:49 am
Again love whenever they go Dmac and Fargas in backfield and then spread Dmac out if they move guys pounded with Fargas or if they get a LB or S on dmac throw it Bush has to earn his spot and asking to come out and fumbling will keep you in a the doghouse.
December 18th, 2009 at 5:52 am
Good Morning Nation!!!
December 18th, 2009 at 5:54 am
GOOD MORNING SPORT’S FAN’S,RUSSELL’S PRE-GAME MEAL, SIX BIG MAC’S & A DIET COKE,AND A BAG OF SKITTLES…
December 18th, 2009 at 5:56 am
Good Morning NATION!! Happy friday..
December 18th, 2009 at 5:57 am
No way DLF is he drinking diet anything, he has to be a jolt cola or Mountain Dew guy.
December 18th, 2009 at 5:59 am
Wow, I cant believe Al Davis’s legacy has come to this; being critiqued by a bunch of envious ‘tard’s whose every opinion is influenced by a media that has lost it’s perception on what football is supposed to be about, passion and dedication.
Al Davis has been one of football’s most influential figures for the past few decades. He revoloutionized the sport in the 70’s with the speed he brought to the game. Speed=Action, and Action=Great games. At the very least, people should respect the fact that Al Davis has made the NFL a more entertaining brand.
It offends me when people say Al Davis is stupid, senile, incompetent, moronic, etc. This is a guy that has broken his back for the team and brought 3 rings and 15 divisonal titles to the club, more than any AFC West competitor to date! And I dont buy that “living in the past” BS, cause we were in the SB a few years back and would have creamed the other team if they hadnt been coached by Gruden. Charer/Bronco fans have no excuse. When was the last time the Chiefs even won a playoff game!!
At the end of the day, there is a lot of Raider bashing going on right now that makes me smile. Why you ask? Because despite having six losing seasons, we still remain one of the most iconic franchises in all of sports. The haters that pilfer onto this site and bash? They are envious of the fact that we remain one of the coolest teams in sports despite the losing. Watch the band-wagons pile up when we start winning.
Al Davis gets a bad rap because he is a bit more aggressive with Free Agency/Draft picks than other clubs. When his moves don’t pan out, the “talking heads” all have to comment on how stupid he is because they need filler. And all these morons in the public soak it up. Davis’s GM moves are much more prolific and successful than his latest history indicates.
The media, especially draft anyalysts, will have you believe that a team’s success is predicated on whether or not a team drafts well in the first round. If people took a second to stop and think, they would realize that most 1st rounders never pan out the way the media paints them. Remember Leinhart, Young, Bush, Okoye, Vick, A. Smith,etc?
Al Davis might have blown it the past few 1st round picks, but I dont think that should be his defining legacy. How about the fact that 21 HOF’s have come out of that orginization and have nothing but the upmost respect (except for M. Allen) for Mr. Davis. Face it, you would kill for a GM with the type of dedication, devotion, and fury that Al Davis has. At least my GM wants to win a championship, rather than fill the seats.
December 18th, 2009 at 5:59 am
BlackSunday32,like the moniker btw,but also not wanting 2 help your team “any” way you can dosent help either =)
December 18th, 2009 at 6:00 am
Ahh the AM crew is blessed with da 408’s presence!!!!
December 18th, 2009 at 6:05 am
What Up NATION???????
December 18th, 2009 at 6:05 am
408, what up Bruh? Did you get paid from that-mail blast?
December 18th, 2009 at 6:06 am
7 losing seasons…..
December 18th, 2009 at 6:07 am
sup thec…
hey 4eva give me a sec I wanna show you something
December 18th, 2009 at 6:08 am
Johnnyjrambo….Fine comment,fine comment indeed.It surprises me that all of the Nation cant remember this.I know we havnt been good 4awhile,even tho not soo long ago we was in the S/B
Every team goes through bad times and as I’ve posted B4….out of our 50 year existence,we been REAL GOOD for 40 of those 50 years,quite an accomplishment,imo
But as we all know football is ALL about what have you done 4me lately.
I can understand short-timers being upset because they have never tasted a S/B victory.Its the old-timers that know the tradition and still Hate that gets me.If we was perfect winning would become boring,imo
December 18th, 2009 at 6:10 am
Thec..
errrr yeah that… Sorry bout that I was trying 2 get mines..LOL some people get really PO’d about spam
December 18th, 2009 at 6:10 am
hey 4eva you seen this yet???
http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo249/the408RAIDER/46858929.jpg
December 18th, 2009 at 6:12 am
Yes 408 I have seen the bill-board….and?
December 18th, 2009 at 6:14 am
Mr. Davis = Great 70’s, and 80’s football.
Football has paridigm from the 70’s and 80’s.
The way you run the football business is not the same.
the way you structure the org, is not the same.
Expectations for draft picks are not the same.
How many Owner/GM’s exist in the league today?
How many Owner/GM/Personel Dept guys exist today?
December 18th, 2009 at 6:14 am
# Thec07 Says:
December 18th, 2009 at 6:06 am
7 losing seasons…..
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buckle up man were in this 4 the long haul and Im sad to report there is no end in sight. Its Still NATION 4 LIFE on mine…
December 18th, 2009 at 6:15 am
408RAIDER Says:
December 18th, 2009 at 6:10 am
Thec..
errrr yeah that… Sorry bout that I was trying 2 get mines..LOL some people get really PO’d about spam
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No need to apologize Homie, just wanted to see if it was reality or not?
December 18th, 2009 at 6:16 am
408RAIDER Says:
December 18th, 2009 at 6:14 am
# Thec07 Says:
December 18th, 2009 at 6:06 am
7 losing seasons…..
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buckle up man were in this 4 the long haul and Im sad to report there is no end in sight. Its Still NATION 4 LIFE on mine…
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On mine also….
December 18th, 2009 at 6:16 am
# 4evaRaider Says:
December 18th, 2009 at 6:12 am
Yes 408 I have seen the bill-board….and?
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I got a bounty on it with the lil homies…
December 18th, 2009 at 6:18 am
That billboard is hard…..
December 18th, 2009 at 6:18 am
I agree…been a fan for 35+ years now. Moved from Hawaii (hence my moniker…would have spelled it out but, someone beat me to it on another site and it just stuck…) to the Bay back in 2001. Went to my first game that year. 5 years later (the Art Shell II year) became a season ticket holder! Many people on here were ranting about not going to games anymore…lets send Al a message, blah, blah, blah…One day, someone came in here and posted that he loved going to the games as a FAN and will continue to do so, but will not buy anymore gear (jerseys, hats, etc…).
There are many different ways to show your support. Just because we have 7 losing seasons now, which by all accounts, I hate it just as much as the next guy, it doesn’t mean that I will drift away until we start winning again. The Raiders are in my blood! Next to my family, they are my heart and soul…and thanks to Mr. Davis…we are ALL fans of what he brought to us. We all became fans because of the Aura that was Mr.Davis, and the Oakland Raiders!!! I just hope that no one will ever forget that…!
December 18th, 2009 at 6:19 am
A GOOD SUPPLY OF BODY-BAG’S..
December 18th, 2009 at 6:21 am
I love Mr. Davis. He has done a lot for the game….
He needs help, and i am not sure the help he has been getting has been good help.
Any good business needs a good organizational structure, I am not sure we have that in oakland.
I dont hate Mr. Davis, nor do i wish any ill will towrds him, as i hope he lives to be 120, but the facts are he does need help.
December 18th, 2009 at 6:23 am
Thec,Tho I agree this isnt 70’s and 80’s football,you still got 2 line up and play.Sure from time 2 time a new “wrinkle” is created,a la the ZBS.But as every other fad in the nfl,except the forward pass,teams figure a way to stop it imo,but you will always have to line-up.
Thats why I was APPALLED when we copied the Denver Broncos and went ZBS.
As Lincoln Kennedy said….we only ran around 11 plays,and we would line-up and tell the defense what the play was.Just try and stop us.
More than any draft pick since Robbins,I wanted Alex Mack.We haven’t been dominating sense we had a dominating CENTER
December 18th, 2009 at 6:24 am
408 as Ive said B4
YOU ARE DA MAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
December 18th, 2009 at 6:25 am
And I agree Big Al needs help also Thec
December 18th, 2009 at 6:27 am
Russell, McFadden & Heyward-Bey.
our version of Aikman, Smith & Irvin …
have a combined 4 TD’s this season.
Gradkowski alone has 6. Murphy alone has 4.
who would have guess this at the beginning of the season?
December 18th, 2009 at 6:27 am
Davis is doing a terrible job. His drafts suck, he hires the cheapest coaches, and the game has passed him by. He wasted $100 million dollars on Russell, McFadden, Hall, Walker, and DHB. I really think Amy Trask could do a better job.
December 18th, 2009 at 6:27 am
guessed*
December 18th, 2009 at 6:30 am
Yes, Davis needs help…I am not arguing with that. Amy Trask could probably do better…haha!
Rockstar…Good Morning to you, bro! I would not have guessed it…I was one that thought that Russell SHOULD have progressed and not regressed…!?
December 18th, 2009 at 6:31 am
look at the fat contracts of FA’s Walker, Hall, Kelly, Wilson & Harris!
we’re still paying the price for that mess…
Warren & Kelly aren’t known for being run stuffers. they are known for breaking free and trying to take down the QB. they each have 1 sack this year.
and what ranking do we have vs the run? i’m guessing it’s not in the Top 20
December 18th, 2009 at 6:33 am
4evaRaider Says:
December 18th, 2009 at 6:23 am
Thec,Tho I agree this isnt 70’s and 80’s football,you still got 2 line up and play.Sure from time 2 time a new “wrinkle” is created,a la the ZBS.But as every other fad in the nfl,except the forward pass,teams figure a way to stop it imo,but you will always have to line-up.
Thats why I was APPALLED when we copied the Denver Broncos and went ZBS.
As Lincoln Kennedy said….we only ran around 11 plays,and we would line-up and tell the defense what the play was.Just try and stop us.
More than any draft pick since Robbins,I wanted Alex Mack.We haven’t been dominating sense we had a dominating CENTER
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in this years draft there is a kid named Wisneiwski…
i’m hoping we check him out…
he plays center…
December 18th, 2009 at 6:33 am
HEY ROCKSTAR,HAPPY HOLIDAY’S 2 U AND YOUR’S,U WHERE CATCHING SOME GRIEF IN HERE YESTERDAY..
December 18th, 2009 at 6:33 am
Trevor Scott leads the team in sacks (6) and Michael Huff leads the team in INT’s (3)
December 18th, 2009 at 6:35 am
Thanks Dirt Lot. Merry Christmas!
I always take heat in here for not being sensitive.
I’m used to it now
December 18th, 2009 at 6:35 am
Tiger Wood’s Holiday Poem
Twas the night of Thanksgiving and out of the house
Tiger Woods came a flyin’, chased by his spouse
She wielded a nine iron and wasn’t too merry,
Cause a bimbo’s phone number was in his Blackberry.
He’d been cheatin’ on Elin, and the story progressed.
Woman after woman Tiger stepped up and confessed.
He’d been cheatin’ with Holly, and Jaimee, and Cori,
With Joselyn, and Kalika, The world had the story.
From the top of the Tour to the basement of blues,
Tiger’s sad sordid tale was all over the news.
With hostesses, waitresses, he had lots of sex,
When not in their pants, he was sendin’ them texts.
Despite all his cryin’ and beggin’ and pleadin’,
Tiger’s wife went investin’ — a new home in Sweden.
And I heard her exclaim from her white Escalade,
“If you’re gettin’ laid then I’m gettin’ paid.”
She’s not pouting, in fact, she is of jolly good cheer,
Her prenup made Christmas come early this year.
December 18th, 2009 at 6:36 am
Yep Pete I heard of the kid.Polish too!!!!
December 18th, 2009 at 6:36 am
DHB has 9 receptions and Mitchell has 9 tackles.
December 18th, 2009 at 6:37 am
Florida Pete, What up Brethren???????
I will go on record as saying this, if I was an NFL owner I would hire florida pete to work in my player personnel dept…
He know WTF he is talking about.
I look at all the folks he has called on during draft time.
Example, Jasper Brinkley….
So if he says look at a guy, that guy will be on point…
December 18th, 2009 at 6:37 am
EXLAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
lmao!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
December 18th, 2009 at 6:37 am
THOUGHT THE DEFENSE WAS ALL ROB RYAN’S FAULT..
December 18th, 2009 at 6:39 am
Mr. Davis is being matched up against several people on other teams. Question what happens when you get several people on the same page without agenda?
Mr. Davis has to match wits with 32 other teams that
probable have whole departments that does what he does.
Out the gates he is overmatched.
Age, I know he can still think, but at 80 thru attrition you will slow down. So we have an 80 year old owner, matching wits with whole departments and the technology they use.
December 18th, 2009 at 6:43 am
Memo
From: Al Davis
To: John Herrara
I understand whole departments but what in the hell is technology?
Al
December 18th, 2009 at 6:44 am
exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:
December 18th, 2009 at 6:43 am
Memo
From: Al Davis
To: John Herrara
I understand whole departments but what in the hell is technology?
Al
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ROFLMFAO……. I almost blew my coffee good one Brother….
December 18th, 2009 at 6:45 am
THOUGHT THE DEFENSE WAS ALL ROB RYAN’S FAULT..
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Cleveland stinks on defense as well DLF. hard to say whether or not Ryan was an upgrade
at least Marshall is at home with a 4-3 defense and Ryan is at home with a 3-4 defense. no more square pegs in round holes
we still need a true NT, be it 4-3 or 3-4 defense… and a starter quality SLB
December 18th, 2009 at 6:46 am
An example of technology is using madden 2010 for play calling. We need to be “cutting edge”….
December 18th, 2009 at 6:54 am
Hey Pete,
No gloating of Jasper Brinkley’s first start, which by all accounts was a huge success.
What gives?
December 18th, 2009 at 6:55 am
fugg the donkeys!! Its gonna make my xmas when we beat them on sunday…
December 18th, 2009 at 6:56 am
hey Vegas… so did you bet MR or what? I bet him a whole buck.. Cash Money…
December 18th, 2009 at 6:57 am
Brinkley had 3 tackles last week…
Morrison had 5.
December 18th, 2009 at 6:59 am
hey 408 or any one…You got a link 4 cheap airline tickets?
December 18th, 2009 at 7:00 am
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
December 18th, 2009 at 2:07 am
LOL. I’ve never seen so many excuses in my life for not wanting to bet, especially from a guy named “Vegas Raider”. You know what? Forget it. It’s off the table now. I challenged anyone here to bet me if they thought Russell wouldn’t start next year, and here’s the takers:
Vegas Raider – not willing to bet any cash, offered to instead wager the right to comment here. In other words, he wussed out.
Why do I get the feeling that if I were to bet you guys that the Detroit Lions would go undefeated next year, you would have offered up anything as a wager, rather you thought I’d pay up or not? You know nobody’s really going to pay anyone, anyway.
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LOL. High comedy.
See I knew you wouldn’t pay or have no intentions to do so, so I put up a bet that is tangible and easier to transfer than cash. Sounds like a real bet to me. In your blatherings, I don’t know if you even took the bet. And only in your world would “nobody really going to pay anyone, anyway”. Plenty of people have bet people on here and paid up, I just sent my jersey to 504 after he sent me $20, see some of us are real, credible people, not no nothing losers like yourself.
I kind of think you copped out on all of it. So who really “wussed” out? I still will take the action, will you?
December 18th, 2009 at 7:01 am
4eva ya got southwest over there?? Bags fly free…
December 18th, 2009 at 7:01 am
wow I sure can make some money that way lol
December 18th, 2009 at 7:03 am
yeah and Im gonna be wanting My buck!
December 18th, 2009 at 7:03 am
and yes we just got Southwest Airlines right after in-door plumbing
December 18th, 2009 at 7:04 am
4evaRaider Says:
December 18th, 2009 at 6:59 am
hey 408 or any one…You got a link 4 cheap airline tickets?
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Try Travelzoo.com
December 18th, 2009 at 7:05 am
time to get to work. later gents
carpe diem!
December 18th, 2009 at 7:05 am
Icertainly Exla….Thankx Bro.And I just knew it would be you that came up with that lol!!!!
December 18th, 2009 at 7:05 am
I CERTAINLY WILL Exla woo hoo
December 18th, 2009 at 7:07 am
Thec07 Says:
December 18th, 2009 at 6:37 am
Florida Pete, What up Brethren???????
I will go on record as saying this, if I was an NFL owner I would hire florida pete to work in my player personnel dept…
He know WTF he is talking about.
I look at all the folks he has called on during draft time.
Example, Jasper Brinkley….
So if he says look at a guy, that guy will be on point…
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now gentlemen… please look at the above post…
clearly a man who knows what he is talking about…
December 18th, 2009 at 7:08 am
Whats up 408…?
Yes, that will make my Christmas too!
December 18th, 2009 at 7:08 am
Pete fyi,they just “let” Thec out.You know????? lol
December 18th, 2009 at 7:09 am
McFadden’s inability to find holes or get through them is one of the great overlooked stories in the NFL — in part because of Russell’s failings. McFadden was runner-up for the Heisman TWO years in a row and had a reputation coming out of college as an explosive, Adrian Peterson-like runner. But the NFL Network’s Mike Mayock had it right at the time: “I just watched three tapes and I wasn’t as impressed as I expected to be,” Mayock said.
It’s shocking that McFadden never, ever avoids the first tackler.
Taking McFadden over Chris Johnson and — the guy I wanted — Ray Rice is yet another move that will haunt the Raiders for years.
December 18th, 2009 at 7:09 am
Madden Raider
I don’t have to trust you one iota to make this statement.
If J. Russell is the Oakland Raiders starting QB in 2010 and you email me your address I will send you a money order for $100
And if he is not the starter you don’t have to say or do anything. We will all take pleasure in the knowledge that you were wrong.
December 18th, 2009 at 7:09 am
But he does not own a franchise , so don’t give up your day job fishing for mullet
December 18th, 2009 at 7:11 am
MaddenRaider only bad mouths AD, and sometimes JH. He’s an angry young man
December 18th, 2009 at 7:14 am
hwnrdr
All is well brethren. I haven’t been commenting much lately cuz there was allot of whining going on here. Morning crew always keeps it civil tho.. Props 2 Morning Crew
December 18th, 2009 at 7:18 am
Morning crew is always good, throw in some Jhill, 408 and Florida Pete with the normal cast of characters, and I get a late start on the workday!!
December 18th, 2009 at 7:21 am
That is why I only post here…well, Ok, there are times I cannot help myself but post in the evening, but that is because someone stated something stupid and I needed to validate something!
If youdon’t come on here the rest of the year…Happy Holidays to you and your family!!!
December 18th, 2009 at 7:25 am
McFadden’s inability to find holes or get through them is one of the great overlooked stories in the NFL
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I think this post is dead on. He was a #4 overall. Of the few games that are actually televised, I am always suprised at the number of breakaway runs the other teams have on us and how few we actually pull off. Is drafting all that speed paying off at all?
Hell, Lamont Jordon ran past the entire defense about this time last year and nobody caught him.
December 18th, 2009 at 7:29 am
McFadden in lost between the tackles.
Good, and getting better in space, but he just never seems to be able to get out of 3rd gear.
December 18th, 2009 at 7:30 am
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gzs8FLb1LzA
woaw
December 18th, 2009 at 7:31 am
Watch CJ of the Titans, that is what speed is supposed to look like.
That guy goes 0-60 quickly, and never slow does, even if he is cutting and changing directions. And CJ has trucked some safeties and breaks tackles, and he is like 20+ pounds lighter than Darren.
Oh well, maybe Darren can become a WR.
December 18th, 2009 at 7:31 am
LMN!!!!
December 18th, 2009 at 7:31 am
4 Johnson, Micah Linebacker 6-2 258
we need to take this guy in the 3rd round… if he’s still there… otherwise, we probably shouldn’t take him…
2010 NFL Draft Prospect Scouting Report:
Micah Johnson, ILB, Kentucky
Heralded NFL prospects rarely come out of the University of Kentucky, but that’s just what Johnson is doing. The Wildcats scored a major coup in getting Johnson more than three years ago, and his presence has paid off in a major way. The standout linebacker played in 13 games — starting twice — as a freshman and was selected to the SEC All-Freshmen Team by the conference’s coaches. After a solid sophomore campaign, Johnson recorded 93 tackles as a junior and was a voted a First-Team All-SEC performer by the coaches. Through eight games in 2009 he had 66 tackles, six for loss. A versatile athlete, Johnson even has one touchdown run for his distinguished career.
Johnson is an imposing physical specimen — standing at 6′2” and 258 pounds — while being arguably the strongest player on the team. He has decent speed — around 4.7 in the 40-yard dash — but he still needs to improve in that area if he wants to be a star at the next level. Johnson is a huge hitter, especially when he gets a full head of steam behind him, but he struggles just a bit at changing direction so he sometimes has trouble against smaller, shiftier running backs. He is not, however, going to get overpowered. Injuries are a minor concern for Johnson, who was sidelined for one full game and part of another in 2008. He was dealing with an MCL midway through his senior season, so it remained to be seen how he finished out the season. Right now Johnson looks to be off the board early on Day 2 of the 2010 NFL Draft. However, his athleticism should provide for a stellar performance at the combine, so moving up is a very real possibility.
December 18th, 2009 at 7:33 am
LMN,
What happened to Jason Smith, #2 pick in the draft? I remember you touting him quite a bit.
Guy was damaged goods, we have now found out. A concussion during practice, throwing up on the sidelines when he is not even playing, due to crowd noise?
The guys career might be over before it even started.
December 18th, 2009 at 7:38 am
vegas…
ohh, cr4p for him… hope he bounces back…
well concussions are some weird stuff, thats why we should end Zach Millers year, so he’ll fresh for next season where the games matter…
December 18th, 2009 at 7:39 am
And Shaunessy is doing quite well,thank you very much =)
December 18th, 2009 at 7:39 am
Fl Pete,
if he can stop the run, ill take him in 2nd round =)
December 18th, 2009 at 7:40 am
408!!
December 18th, 2009 at 7:43 am
Good Morning Nation!
December 18th, 2009 at 7:44 am
morning
bcz24
December 18th, 2009 at 7:45 am
Where would the Raiders be now if years ago they had hired the right guy, Wisenhunt? Totally changed the identity of the cardinals. AD interviewd him and he went elsewhere.
December 18th, 2009 at 7:47 am
weasel…
ohh no, dont go saying stuff like that… its friday, im in a good mood =)
December 18th, 2009 at 7:49 am
Charlie Frye gives us our best chance at winning the game against the Broncos in Denver.
Let that sink in for a moment.
wow.
How long will this crap continue?
HIRE A GM – LET HIM HIRE A COACH – LET HIM HIRE HIS STAFF – LET THEM RUN THEIR OWN SYSTEM!
December 18th, 2009 at 7:51 am
R75…
wise words, sadly the man isnt listening :/
December 18th, 2009 at 7:51 am
here we go again… *sigh*
December 18th, 2009 at 7:52 am
anybody seen Big Al’s Goon lately?? I love that name BTW
December 18th, 2009 at 7:54 am
nope and he always had something good 2 say =)
hey 408….you check out issue #45 yet?
December 18th, 2009 at 7:54 am
4evaRaider Says:
December 18th, 2009 at 7:08 am
Pete fyi,they just “let” Thec out.You know????? lol
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ROFLMAO…… Allright Brother, thanks for letting my secret out…. Now I know who i can trust…
December 18th, 2009 at 7:54 am
our new center
Stefen Wisniewski, Penn State
Height: 6-3. Weight: 298.
Projected 40 Time: 5.13.
We need to get this guy… for a lot of reasons…
i doubt he’s there in the 2nd round…
so… we need to try to trade down… and get this guy at about 20-25 in the 1st round…
that’s right… i say we need a center…
probably doable if our pick is 10 or lower…
December 18th, 2009 at 7:56 am
FL pete
is he related to you who?
and yup! we need a center
December 18th, 2009 at 7:56 am
You look for a successful franchise. Find the assistant who’s responsible and offer them a step up to head coach. That’s how we got Gruden. They’ll come if al promises to stay out of things. They should go after assistants from Saints or Colts. Somebody up to the challenge of turning a bad situation around. At the very least, get an OC with the understanding that if Cable fails, he gets the job.
December 18th, 2009 at 7:56 am
Florida Pete, I like the MLB from alabama. I am not sold on spikes, i saw somethings that i did not like in the alabama game. I know its only one game…
December 18th, 2009 at 7:57 am
4eva…. No I havent.. 408 <———- easily distracted when on the internet…
December 18th, 2009 at 7:57 am
Pete, we need to you focus on the mid to late round picks, that’s where your “value” is.
Besides, Al is taking Javier Arenas, DB/KR from Alabama in the first round. Just have a hunch.
December 18th, 2009 at 7:57 am
Good morning Raider Nation!
December 18th, 2009 at 7:59 am
LMAO Thec!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Unlike others you do NOT have puddin-skin.
I.E. Way back in the day B4 instant-pudding,you boiled your pudding.If you didnt cover it with wax paper,a real,fine tiny layer covered the top.hense the name lil pudding skin lol
December 18th, 2009 at 7:59 am
in the 2nd round… our new Defensive Tackle…
Defensive Tackle
Dan Williams, Tennessee
Height: 6-3. Weight: 327.
Projected 40 Time: 5.25.
and yes i know he played for Kiffie…
but the Kiffie he played for was Monte…
December 18th, 2009 at 8:00 am
4eva,
Pudding skins!!! Great Seinfeld episode.
December 18th, 2009 at 8:00 am
THEC!!!!! good to see ya
December 18th, 2009 at 8:00 am
4evaRaider Says:
December 18th, 2009 at 7:59 am
LMAO Thec!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Unlike others you do NOT have puddin-skin.
I.E. Way back in the day B4 instant-pudding,you boiled your pudding.If you didnt cover it with wax paper,a real,fine tiny layer covered the top.hense the name lil pudding skin lol
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ROFLMAO….. Hey I resemble that remark….
December 18th, 2009 at 8:01 am
LMN, what up Brother???? where you been hiding man?
December 18th, 2009 at 8:01 am
408…
did you see the youtube thingy i posted? i love that tune…
December 18th, 2009 at 8:03 am
Thec…
working, living and stuff, I was furious about this site didnt get teh time-stamps rite, so I simply stayed away, until it was fixed…
December 18th, 2009 at 8:03 am
oh, i should caveat my center pick, Wisneiwski…
if McCoy is still there when we pick… he’s the guy to take…
oh… and i would still take Dan Williams in the second…
yeah, yeah, just like last year… 2 DT’s first two rounds…
December 18th, 2009 at 8:04 am
R8eray,
You live in Vegas right?
I’m going to the Suncoast here in a second before work, and putting some coin on the Mavericks tonight, against the Rockets.
That’s my free daily winnner, LOL.
December 18th, 2009 at 8:06 am
yup!
December 18th, 2009 at 8:06 am
You were one out of two on the DT’s last year Pete.
Desmond Bryant has three times more tackles than Ron Brace right now. But Raji is going to be a stud, if he isn’t already.
December 18th, 2009 at 8:07 am
FL Pete…
trade down in 1st, get steves kid (i assume) get 2, 2nd round picks for trading down in the 1st round, the tackle and the MLB… bang and we are in business, then we are in business
December 18th, 2009 at 8:07 am
If Frye lives in the film room and has happy feet, he’ll probably do alright. Grads did way better than most people expected. Schillens and Murphy are just starting to gel.They need to bring in a RB that runs over people for fun like Bettis did. And a violent fullback like Marv Hubbard. And HUGE O lineman to tire defenses out. And when they’re all beat up and tired, we pass. They die.
December 18th, 2009 at 8:07 am
Thanks! Money-LINE?
December 18th, 2009 at 8:07 am
LMN, Good to have you back Bruh….
December 18th, 2009 at 8:08 am
Vegas…
yeah I was thinking the same stuff the other sunday
December 18th, 2009 at 8:09 am
4evaRaider Says:
December 18th, 2009 at 7:59 am
LMAO Thec!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Unlike others you do NOT have puddin-skin.
I.E. Way back in the day B4 instant-pudding,you boiled your pudding.If you didnt cover it with wax paper,a real,fine tiny layer covered the top.hense the name lil pudding skin lol
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I used to hate that stuff!
December 18th, 2009 at 8:10 am
That’s why jello’s better
December 18th, 2009 at 8:10 am
# weaselbit Says:
December 18th, 2009 at 8:07 am
If Frye lives in the film room and has happy feet, he’ll probably do alright. Grads did way better than most people expected. Schillens and Murphy are just starting to gel.They need to bring in a RB that runs over people for fun like Bettis did. And a violent fullback like Marv Hubbard. And HUGE O lineman to tire defenses out. And when they’re all beat up and tired, we pass. They die.
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we just need to trade DHB, and make McFadden our Wes Welker…. then our QB will hve some targets =)
December 18th, 2009 at 8:11 am
Gotta jump into the work load. ALL of you guys have a great friday, and be safe….
1 NATION….
December 18th, 2009 at 8:11 am
CJ would not be putting up the same numbers if he was in Oakland. Mcfadden is yet another victim of our poorly ran organization.
We have a big powerful back in Michael Bush. We need o-line help but I feel we have alot of pieces to the puzzle that are just misused.I mean we have a fullback, Gary Russell, returning kickoffs. That says alot in itself.
December 18th, 2009 at 8:12 am
Thec…
thanx, you too…
December 18th, 2009 at 8:12 am
Good observation LMN, McFad does great as a receiver. Seems to run way better that way.
December 18th, 2009 at 8:13 am
Cards have a couple low-to-the-ground backs they use that way. Eats defenses alive.
December 18th, 2009 at 8:15 am
Mcfadden needs to be on the field 75% of the time with the offense. whether as a back, out wide, or in the slot. Cable is no offensive genius, thus, hampering the talent we do have on that side of the ball.
December 18th, 2009 at 8:16 am
r8eray Says:
December 18th, 2009 at 8:07 am
Thanks! Money-LINE?
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You can lay the wood, I think it is 6 points.
Do you listen to 1100 AM at all? They have a sweet free college bowl pick’em contest on the website, wearelv.com, I would recommend. First place gets $500 at sports authority, one night stay at Hilton and dinner for two at Bennihana’s, with a golf package as well.
December 18th, 2009 at 8:17 am
LMN
yeah it was cool
December 18th, 2009 at 8:19 am
4Eva- good post- But I would not consider any draftees that have just had major surgery. They don’t always come back the same and it’s too big a risk. Be like drafting a dumb fat guy and expecting him to get thin and smart.
December 18th, 2009 at 8:21 am
We have a smallish running back in Gary Russell PLAYING Fullback in the first place… on top of the fact that his our best kick returner… lol
December 18th, 2009 at 8:22 am
Thanks..I listen to 1100 and 920! I’m gonna register today, just seen that on there web site yesterday.
December 18th, 2009 at 8:25 am
and I cant wait to see this guy in action.Maybe he’s why we let Rankin go?
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Reece, Marcel RB 6-3 240 24 1 Washington
December 18th, 2009 at 8:25 am
Jmeds,
Check out this link and watch CJ runs at 2:20 mark. He doesn’t get a block until 50 yards down the field, and just weaves his way through 4 Rams. This play had nothing to do with blocking and everything to do with CJ’s speed.
http://www.titansonline.com/media-center/videos/Calls-of-the-Week/5e97c75a-da8a-4033-9e87-befc2d8fb9f9
December 18th, 2009 at 8:27 am
Sometimes those low to the ground guys are hard to catch, much less tackle. Because they’re light, high impact hits affect them less. Like speedy little muscle-bound midgets.
December 18th, 2009 at 8:27 am
I see Seat down at the Hilton every week. Cool azz dude, Chargers fan though.
December 18th, 2009 at 8:31 am
Must be cool to have a venue where you can make money with your sports knowledge.
December 18th, 2009 at 8:39 am
It’s fun Weasel, but not that easy. Lost last night by half a point.
Just waiting for the season to end, so I can get them good in the bowl season and NFL playoffs.
Right now, I am saving money to put on the Gators to kick the crap out of Cincy in the bowl game. Trying to convince the wife to pull some money out of some accounts we have to get some serious action on it.
December 18th, 2009 at 8:39 am
I’ve hung out with Mitch and Doug, they’re all good guys!
December 18th, 2009 at 8:48 am
LMN you still here??
December 18th, 2009 at 8:49 am
Wooohooo. Shanarat is rumored to be going to Washington as coach. That still leaves us with a chance to get Chuckie!!! LOL. Fat chance, I know.
December 18th, 2009 at 8:51 am
must beat Marley on sunday!!
December 18th, 2009 at 8:52 am
Here is a list of top 10 senior DT’s available in 2010.
Draft one in the 1st RD and one in the 3rd RD!! O-line in the 2nd RD and 3rd RD.
What you guys think?
Pick up a MLB in free agency!
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TOP SENIOR DEFENSIVE TACKLES
1. Ndamukong Suh
College: Nebraska
Height/Weight: 6-4, 295
Suh is a four-year player and three-year starter. He was one of the top high school players in 2005 and ended up going to Nebraska from Oregon because he had family in the state. Suh was Nebraska’s leading tackler in 2008 — the first defensive lineman to lead the team in tackles in 35 years. He also holds the record for interceptions and interceptions returned for touchdowns by a defensive tackle. Suh has outstanding quickness and strength for the position, is a very good athlete and will be a top 10 pick. 2. Arthur Jones
College: Syracuse
Height/Weight: 6-3, 300
Jones is a fifth-year player, who will be a three-year starter. He made first-team All-Big East in 2007 and 2008. He had 15 tackles and 1.5 sacks in an upset win at Notre Dame last season. Jones is a very productive player on a poor team. He has the quickness needed for the position. His stock is also helped by the fact that he’s strong, goes all out and makes plays in big games.
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3. Terrence Cody
College: Alabama
Height/Weight: 6-3 5/8, 370
Cody is in his second year at Alabama after playing junior college football in Mississippi. Coach Nick Saban made Cody lose 50 pounds before he would allow him to play last fall. He was named first-team All-SEC in 2008. He has good quickness for the position and will play the run well, but is not a pass rusher, which makes him a two-down player. This is a massive man. He is a mid-to-low first-round pick. 4. D’Anthony Smith
College: Louisiana Tech
Height/Weight: 6-2¼, 307
Smith will be a four-year starter (32 starts in his first three years). He was first-team All-WAC in 2008 when he had five sacks. This is a very good player and a fine person. Smith is strong, has quickness and is a very good athlete. He is a possible low first-round pick and should be a good pro.
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5. Jared Odrick
College: Penn State
Height/Weight: 6-4, 302
Odrick played as a true freshman at Penn State and followed that by starting seven games in 2007 before suffering season-ending injuries. He was named first-team All-Big Ten in 2008 and had 4.5 sacks. He has great physical attributes such as his strength, quickness, toughness and athleticism. He is a first-round pick, likely at the bottom half of the round and will play well for a long time. 6. Jeff Owens
College: Georgia
Height/Weight: 6-1¼, 301
Owens is a fifth-year player, who appeared in just one game in 2008 due to a knee injury. He will be a three-year starter and contributed as a true freshman. Owens is strong, with very good quickness. While he lacks height, he plays hard every down.
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7. Tyson Alualu
College: California
Height/Weight: 6-2¼, 295
Alualu played as a true freshman in 2006 and has started every game over the past two years at defensive end, coming away with 8.5 sacks and a second-team All-Pac Ten nod in 2008. He is married and has a son. Alualu is strong, but still has the quickness needed to rush the passer. He should be a solid player at the next level. 8. Jeffrey Fitzgerald
College: Kansas State
Height/Weight: 6-4, 275
Fitzgerald enters his fifth year, but will only play three seasons of college football. He redshirted in 2005 and lost 2008 because of transferring from Virginia. Fitzgerald started 25 games and had 13 sacks in two years at Virginia. He is very strong, with above average athletic ability. He ran a 4.9 40-yard dash at the Wildcats’ Pro Day. The question remains, though, as to what kind of impact he will make next season after not playing in 2008.
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9. Vince Oghobaase
College: Duke
Height/Weight: 6-5½, 300
Oghobaase is a fifth-year player and a three-year starter. He had six sacks in 2008 and is one of the best defensive linemen in the ACC. Oghobaase has strength, quickness and agility. He is a little like current Giants DE Chris Canty, who came out of Virginia a few years ago. 10. Gino Atkins
College: Georgia
Height/Weight: 6-1 1/8, 282
Atkins is a four-year player who has started 20 games for the Bulldogs. He played better in 2007 — most likely because Jeff Owens was on the field and took double-team pressure off of him. Atkins is a very smart player, moves well (he was a high school linebacker) and should be a good NFL tackle. He has some pass rush ability.
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11. Brandon Deaderick
College: Alabama
Height/Weight: 6-4, 296
Deaderick is a fifth-year player who has spent time at defensive end for Alabama. His best NFL position is at tackle. He is strong and tough, but lacks the speed necessary to play end at the pro level. Deaderick is an OK athlete, but should be a good inside player. 12. Boo Robinson
College: Wake Forest
Height/Weight: 6-1, 292
Robinson is a fifth-year player, who has started 26 games going into the 2009 season. He has 11.5 sacks over the past two years. Robinson is strong, competitive and has good speed, which helps his pass rush along with great quickness for the position.
December 18th, 2009 at 8:52 am
and how the hell did 75 get that team together??
December 18th, 2009 at 8:54 am
The Big Banana Says:
December 18th, 2009 at 8:49 am
Wooohooo. Shanarat is rumored to be going to Washington as coach. That still leaves us with a chance to get Chuckie!!! LOL. Fat chance, I know.
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Again, according to Schefter, an espn guy, Gruden’s contract with ESPN specifically prohibits him from coaching in the NFL in 2010. Chuckie made a commitment to ESPN and ESPN can hold him to the contract if they so choose.
Besides, ESPN probably pays Chuckie more than what Al would pay a HC…$2 million (subject to all for cause firings of course).
December 18th, 2009 at 8:56 am
Dakota – If it’s true that Chuckie told Otto that all Al has to do is call, then I’m sure it can be done. That said, I don’t think it will happen.
December 18th, 2009 at 8:58 am
Al has never been known for having the ability to swallow his own pride. He’ll put the team at risk just to save his own ego.
December 18th, 2009 at 8:59 am
Big Al might just do it seeing how there will be no revenue sharing in 10. How else will he put butts in seats? Id get season tix again if gruden came back
December 18th, 2009 at 8:59 am
408 your team scored 159 points last week relax
December 18th, 2009 at 9:00 am
Get a young assistant from a successful franchise. That’s how we got Chucky. Any OC wants to be a head coach at some point. Raiders are a great challenge for the right guy. Cable will get one more year anyway. It’s obvious that if he hadn’t been forced to keep Jr as starter, Raiders could have at least had a winning record.
December 18th, 2009 at 9:00 am
Im gonna jump off a bridge if I hear anymore Gruden talk. He is NOT the guy to fix this team. He was a good coach when he had veteran players. Name one guy that Gruden drafted and developed into a top notch player… there arent any. He will die an Oakland coachs death with the young roster we have.
December 18th, 2009 at 9:00 am
I think he’ll hire an Oc next yr anyway
December 18th, 2009 at 9:01 am
Thats it?
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2009/12/18/man-who-sold-gun-that-killed-mcnair-sentenced-to-30-months/
December 18th, 2009 at 9:03 am
bcz24
he’s better then the chubby dude.
December 18th, 2009 at 9:03 am
I agree Bcz. It’s 4th and 1. Raiders have a 5yd rushing average for the game. FIVE YARD AVERAGE!!! no way Patriots could have held. Gruden decides to punt. THAT’s what lost that game.
December 18th, 2009 at 9:05 am
408 – I’d buy season tix again too. I agree. It would put a TON of butts back in the seats.
Bcz24 – Gruden by himself, not so impressive. I think he was good for Davis and Davis good for him. Gruden was able to develop Gannon (not someone he drafted, I know) into an MVP QB. I think he can work well with Grads and the other journeymen currently on the team.
December 18th, 2009 at 9:05 am
4eva
its crunch time baby! ALL HAIL 4EVA! TRADER OF CJ AND RIGHTEOUS RAIDER BRETHREN!!!
December 18th, 2009 at 9:07 am
A bit late today but good morning everyone.
December 18th, 2009 at 9:07 am
lmao
December 18th, 2009 at 9:07 am
morning Neilb!!!!
December 18th, 2009 at 9:08 am
Weaselbit – And Cable has some real strokes of genius in his play calling, doesn’t he? Fake sweep to Seabass? Pure Genius!
Look we can find flaws in ALL coaches, even Billicheat. Look at the bottom line. Overall production. I’ve been a fan of this team for over 20 years (youngster compared to some, I know) and the most successful I’ve seen this team is when Gruden was here. He had them competitive year in and year out.
I don’t understand the Gruden hate.
December 18th, 2009 at 9:08 am
Good morning 4eva!!!
December 18th, 2009 at 9:09 am
He didnt develop Gannon into an MVP… Gannon had Tim Brown and Jerry Rice to throw too… Jamarshmallow would look like a stud throwing the ball to those guys too…
December 18th, 2009 at 9:10 am
still have a housefull Neilb?
December 18th, 2009 at 9:10 am
I dont hate Gruden. I absolutely appreciate what he did in Oakland. Im just stating the fact that with this young core of players he isnt the guy to right the ship.
December 18th, 2009 at 9:12 am
Hey Big Bananna….
Cable sure had me fooled on that one lol
December 18th, 2009 at 9:13 am
4eva…
Nope,that just happens on a Wednesday when all my sisters and neices come for dinner.
December 18th, 2009 at 9:13 am
# bcz24 Says:
December 18th, 2009 at 9:09 am
He didnt develop Gannon into an MVP… Gannon had Tim Brown and Jerry Rice to throw too… Jamarshmallow would look like a stud throwing the ball to those guys too…
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BULL$HIT! Sorry, I have to call it when I see it. That’s BS!! You know it too. Here we go with the receivers again. Russell is a bust anyway you slice it. Need I remind you that Gradkowski (yeah, who?) played pretty well with our young receivers.
Man, I’m tired of the excuses.
Gannon had Rice and Brown at the end of their careers. Still good receiving talent, sure. But not what you’re making them out to be. Brown was sent packing shortly thereafter and Rice ran out of gas too.
December 18th, 2009 at 9:14 am
# 4evaRaider Says:
December 18th, 2009 at 9:12 am
Hey Big Bananna….
Cable sure had me fooled on that one lol
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lol. Me too. I was there for that game and I thought, WTF!! Is this real?
December 18th, 2009 at 9:16 am
Gee,I’m sorry you had to see that Bananna….must’ve seemed like a nightmare lol
December 18th, 2009 at 9:17 am
4eva – Exactly!!
December 18th, 2009 at 9:17 am
It sounds like Neilb’s is the place to be with all da women there….Where did you say you live Neilb? lol
December 18th, 2009 at 9:18 am
We still talking ’bout Gruden ?
Gruden and Gannon worked because they had a great O line.
December 18th, 2009 at 9:19 am
Yeah shortly after the Super Bowl loss Tim Brown left… Dude we had a great Oline, a solid running game (that could not be stopped on short yardage and goal line situations- Zack Crocket for mayor… just sayin) and 2 of the top 3 or 4 greatest receivers EVER. Im not taking anything away from what Gannon and Gruden did in Oakland, it was nothing short of amazing, considering the Joe Bugel/Mike White debacles… (the jamarcus comment was hyperbole) Im just saying, Gruden is NOT the coach you want to believe he is.
December 18th, 2009 at 9:19 am
4eva….
Sorry my friend,they’re all married and my oldest neice is only 15!
December 18th, 2009 at 9:19 am
lmao! I’ve heard it all now. Russell would be a stud if he had Gannon’s receivers? Muhahahahaha!!! That’s a good one.
Using that argument, Grads would be a Hall of Famer with Gannon’s receivers. LOL
December 18th, 2009 at 9:21 am
I would take Marc Trestman as our next HC 100 times out of 100 over Gruden…
December 18th, 2009 at 9:22 am
The Big Banana Says:
December 18th, 2009 at 9:19 am
lmao! I’ve heard it all now. Russell would be a stud if he had Gannon’s receivers? Muhahahahaha!!! That’s a good one.
Using that argument, Grads would be a Hall of Famer with Gannon’s receivers. LOL
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Its even more hilarious that you couldnt detect the sarcasm in that statement… Its ok though, hate on me all you want. I am right though
December 18th, 2009 at 9:23 am
Yep, seems to me when Gruden was in town he was in town on work-related business.But hey what a perk….going back 2 da hood,get a hold of some of my great friends I made while I worked here.Go to our favorite hang-out,throw down some cold ones and laugh and dance the night away.All the while on a work-related visit.So much the better.Nothing-less,nothing-more,imo
December 18th, 2009 at 9:23 am
Thankx anyway Neilb!!!!
December 18th, 2009 at 9:25 am
Gannon made the O-line look better than it was. Don’t you remember all of his scrambling and quick throws? Russell couldn’t make a quick read to save his life, much less escape a pass rush.
Not that Gannon’s line was bad. Not saying that at all. Just not as good as you think. I’ve seen Russell screw up even when the line gives him time. Rodgers isn’t doing too bad in GB with a terrible O-line. Rivers? Much as I hate him, seems to play his best when he has pressure and needs to make a quick read.
December 18th, 2009 at 9:28 am
At the end of the day Gannon/Gruden were not trying to resurrect the fallen franchise we are now. Period. Even in the toughest years before Gruden came to town we were never as uncompetetive as now. We are writing a new precedent for futility year in and year out. The culture in Oakland is a losing one from top to bottom at this point. 1 guy aint gonna come in a put us in contention. The whole thing needs to be blown up and rebuild top to bottom.
December 18th, 2009 at 9:30 am
Bcz24 – It’s not hate, man. Just struck me as funny as he11. It’s all good. I won’t be able to change your opinion nor you mine. Sarcasm? I doubt you meant that sarcastically. You were trying to make a point. I’s ok though. I won’t hold you to it. I’m sure you realized just how crazy that sounded shortly after you wrote it. We all make mistakes.
December 18th, 2009 at 9:32 am
Morning Everyone!
December 18th, 2009 at 9:32 am
Bcz24-
“The culture in Oakland is a losing one from top to bottom at this point.”
That’s EXACTLY the situation Gruden was faced with when he was hired by Davis.
December 18th, 2009 at 9:32 am
Morning
December 18th, 2009 at 9:34 am
No that was honest sarcasm. I hate Jamarcus Russell. He was the worst draft pick in history. I cant stand everything he represents, not just for the Raiders, but for the NFL as a whole. Whatever though, think whatever you want. Attack that one small portion of my statement and stick to it… Im sure it is making you feel like a stud yourself today.
December 18th, 2009 at 9:35 am
Morning D.
December 18th, 2009 at 9:36 am
“That’s EXACTLY the situation Gruden was faced with when he was hired by Davis.”
You are delusional if you think what Gruden inherited is even remotely close to what he would get today.
December 18th, 2009 at 9:36 am
morning b
Finally its Friday!
December 18th, 2009 at 9:37 am
Since 1989 we’ve had 6 winning seasons.Who were the coaches ?
December 18th, 2009 at 9:38 am
Friday’s nearly finished over here.
December 18th, 2009 at 9:39 am
Where are u Neilb?
December 18th, 2009 at 9:39 am
Bcz24 – no problem, man. If you say it was sarcasm, I believe you. Your feelings on Russell seem to prove that it was. I attacked it because others in here have made similar excuses for Russell and, frankly, I’m sick and tired of it. That’s all.
December 18th, 2009 at 9:40 am
The north east of England,right on the coast.
December 18th, 2009 at 9:41 am
……and it’s freaking cold!!
December 18th, 2009 at 9:41 am
Nice! how’d you end up being a raiders fan if u dont mind my askin?
December 18th, 2009 at 9:41 am
morning D Fridaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay it is!!!!
December 18th, 2009 at 9:42 am
Since 1989 the 2 coaches with winning seasons were Art Shell and Jon Gruden… we all know how Shell’s second foray into Raider coaching turned out, the worst season in Oakland history
December 18th, 2009 at 9:42 am
whats up 4eva, i dont know about you but this week draaaagged!
December 18th, 2009 at 9:43 am
Do I win a cookie Nielb?
December 18th, 2009 at 9:47 am
they all darg 4 me as I been laid-off for a year now.
December 18th, 2009 at 9:47 am
Raider D…
When football first started over here it was a hour of highlights from the previous week but I was hooked from the start.
The team on top at the time was the ‘Skins.Didn’t really like them at all.Then I watched my first Superbowl and this team in black kicked the crap outta them and I’ve been in love ever since!!
December 18th, 2009 at 9:47 am
darg lol
December 18th, 2009 at 9:50 am
good stuff neilb!
December 18th, 2009 at 9:50 am
Neilb….I had 30 people at my house for that S/B and bet each one of them 10.00 da Raiders would STOMP the Redskins!!!!
December 18th, 2009 at 9:50 am
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2009/12/18/belichick-evades-question-about-whether-game-film-shows-moss-quit/
December 18th, 2009 at 9:52 am
Bcz24….
Well if you want one,help yourself!!
I knew the answer already….just wanted to make a point about Gruden.
For the record….I’d love to see Gruden back but I know it will never happen.
December 18th, 2009 at 9:54 am
To be honest I can’t remember a lot…..
but that speech by Al afterwards still makes the hair on the back of my neck stand-up!!
December 18th, 2009 at 9:56 am
I do understand what you guys are saying totally. The point is not lost on me, but it really speaks MORE to what I am saying. Gruden had 3 decent years with where he one IN SPITE of Al, not because of him. No question. What I am saying is he did it with a solid core of veteran players, and he did not build for the future underneath those guys… hence the 7 consecutive seasons of HELL we are currently enduring.
December 18th, 2009 at 9:59 am
You make a fair point Bcz24.All the veteran players didn’t help.
December 18th, 2009 at 10:01 am
bcz24 Says:
December 18th, 2009 at 9:56 am
I do understand what you guys are saying totally. The point is not lost on me, but it really speaks MORE to what I am saying. Gruden had 3 decent years with where he one IN SPITE of Al, not because of him. No question. What I am saying is he did it with a solid core of veteran players, and he did not build for the future underneath those guys… hence the 7 consecutive seasons of HELL we are currently enduring.
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That’s what started this whole mess to be sure,imo
December 18th, 2009 at 10:02 am
To my original point… all I was saying is Gruden does not have a proven track record of DEVELOPING talent.
December 18th, 2009 at 10:05 am
Did the same thing here in Tampa.Everybody here was saying that was Tony D.’s team.EVERYONE in Tampa was saying that.And the people here also said that Gruden benefited GREATLY coming over from Oakland and others were BEWILDERED about Robbins
December 18th, 2009 at 10:06 am
The batter calls time and steps out of the box.
The crowd senses the moment and is in full-throated roar. A home run will tie the game. Even if this hitter hasn’t gone deep in the majors he carries his reputation from the minors.
The batter tugs at his gloves and adjusts his helmet. Now he’s ready and he digs in for the 3-2 pitch.
The pitcher winds and delivers.
There’s a nubber toward third.
The third baseman barehands the ball and throws.
Safe! McFadden beat the throw for a hit!
Wait a minute, the home plate umpire is calling him out. Out of the batter’s box before the swing.
It seems Darren was too impatient. Ballgame over.
December 18th, 2009 at 10:07 am
4eva
so you’d rather have the chubby dude over gruden?
December 18th, 2009 at 10:12 am
Gruden may not be the greatest coach to ever walk the sidelines but the young man coached for 11 years in the NFL during which time his teams finished below .500 only three times. His yeams went to multiple AFC and NFC championship games. Not bad. Not bad at all.
December 18th, 2009 at 10:16 am
Maybe 408.If Gruden came back it would have to be multi-year to give him a chance to build his own team,not come in for a couple years.What I want is a coach,whoever it is,to stay 10 years,create the character of the team through the draft.Long term is what seems to work best in this league.Sense Cable is here and the players like him I would like to give him a fair shot at this.Some people say he takes to long to see a certain player dosent work,but I think he tries to look at players how they work with others also.Hell its been 7 years if we dont stop this idiocy of coaching merry-go-rounds we are just gonna keep going in circles.Plus lets give Cable a chance with-out #2
December 18th, 2009 at 10:19 am
Time for me to go….
It’s beer o’clock.
Have a great Friday everyone.
December 18th, 2009 at 10:20 am
Gruden is the only decent coach we’ve had in some 25 years. The rest have been bottom eating assistant coaches. That is the truth baby.
December 18th, 2009 at 10:21 am
I think Gruden would be a huge improvement. Is he perfect? No. But it’s not like coach Bill or someone like Cowher is knocking on our door.
Besides, how are we developing the young talent right now? And who’s better at developing young talent that is a candidate for this job?
Under Gruden, we never suffered the blowout losses that we do now. Always competitive teams he fielded. Even when he had just started.
December 18th, 2009 at 10:21 am
I’m not a big fan of Tom Cable, but it must be frustrating to get your one shot to coach in the NFL and he gets saddled with Jamarcus Russell.
2-1 with Bruce, and if he can win a game or two with Frye he should probably get the chance next year (last year on his contract) sans #2
December 18th, 2009 at 10:22 am
Cable has a pathetic win-loss record, manages one of the worst offenses & o-lines in the league. He would be a position coach in half the NFL teams, the other half would not hire his pimp ass persona.
December 18th, 2009 at 10:26 am
Morning Nation.
December 18th, 2009 at 10:27 am
Gruden is not coming back. Al is a paranoid fool who’s brain has rooted with time. He is old, incorrigeble and pathetic. His personnel decisions from management to coaches to players are based on dillusional facts. The trend says the raiders keep winning 4-5 games per year until drastic changes come…
December 18th, 2009 at 10:28 am
Sup Dmac!?
December 18th, 2009 at 10:29 am
# The Big Banana Says:
December 18th, 2009 at 10:21 am
I think Gruden would be a huge improvement. Is he perfect? No. But it’s not like coach Bill or someone like Cowher is knocking on our door.
Besides, how are we developing the young talent right now? And who’s better at developing young talent that is a candidate for this job?
Under Gruden, we never suffered the blowout losses that we do now. Always competitive teams he fielded. Even when he had just started.
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People who try and rip Gruden have no credibility and are probably fans of John Herrera. LOL
December 18th, 2009 at 10:29 am
De Don Rober….
I’ve always wanted to be incorrigeble lol!!!!
December 18th, 2009 at 10:30 am
Wassup!
December 18th, 2009 at 10:30 am
# los raiders de don rober Says:
December 18th, 2009 at 10:27 am
Gruden is not coming back. Al is a paranoid fool who’s brain has rooted with time. He is old, incorrigeble and pathetic. His personnel decisions from management to coaches to players are based on dillusional facts. The trend says the raiders keep winning 4-5 games per year until drastic changes come…
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If Gruden doesn’t come back….then the Raiders will continue to SUCK!!
Mark my words….
December 18th, 2009 at 10:31 am
Step down Al. Hire Harbaugh for HC and Weiss for OC. Let them run the show.
(I know, it will never happen)
December 18th, 2009 at 10:33 am
Your an amazing prognosticator there DKnight… its not hard to look at the Raiders and say they will continue to suck…
What do we do with your words if Gruden comes back and we STILL suck?
December 18th, 2009 at 10:34 am
# bcz24 Says:
December 18th, 2009 at 10:02 am
To my original point… all I was saying is Gruden does not have a proven track record of DEVELOPING talent.
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All lies!!
Gannon, Garner Wheatley, flourished when Gruden was here. Porter developed and Tim Browns career was saved by having Gruden here as the head coach.
The offense got better each year he was here….especially the running game. The defense wasn’t predictable either.
December 18th, 2009 at 10:36 am
Name me one player that Gruden drafted and developed into a good player.
December 18th, 2009 at 10:37 am
If you say Janikowski or Lechler I will kill myself…
December 18th, 2009 at 10:38 am
I don’t give a fugg about developing talent, I want a coach thats smart, driven and only cares about winning. You think Bill Bellicheat starts DHB to “develop” him? hell no, he’s gonna start the player that gives him the best opp to win…just win baby.
December 18th, 2009 at 10:39 am
Hey AL, there will be some decent O-linemen available at seasons end. Please make a move on at least one of them.
http://www.footballsfuture.com/2010/fa/ol.html
December 18th, 2009 at 10:40 am
I will say this… I WOULD like to have Gruden come back as our HC. He stands up to Al like no one ever has, and he may just be the “bridge” to get us to having a solid GM etc etc… At the end of the day, Gruden would absolutely NOT be a stop in the wrong direction like so many other moves we make.
December 18th, 2009 at 10:40 am
I don’t remember anyboday screaming at Gruden to sit Gannon to develop Tui.
December 18th, 2009 at 10:40 am
Would be nice to ruin the Donkey’s season again wouldn’t it?
Chuck Potato to the rescue!!
December 18th, 2009 at 10:42 am
So Los your saying that the draft is meaningless… give up all your draft picks and just bring in veterans every year because developing talent is a waste of time? Ok then…
December 18th, 2009 at 10:45 am
And that right there is another point of contention imo,De Don Rober.I thought Tui was the natural transition from Gannon and I was full of hope it would be a smooth one.Man I wanted Tui to succeed
December 18th, 2009 at 10:45 am
I think we have enough youngsters on the team. We need proven vets with some leadership skills.
December 18th, 2009 at 10:45 am
For us. Yep the draft is meaningless. Al drafts combine superstars instead of football players. When we’ve been competitive we’ve had a strong core of talented veterans with a small number of young athletic players. Play who ever gives you the best opp. to win always.
December 18th, 2009 at 10:51 am
The stupid scholarship mentality where you play sub-par players to develop them in spite of the team is one of the reasons the team has sucked it hard for 7 years.
December 18th, 2009 at 10:51 am
That’s Mr Chuck Lester Potato to you Vegas, our new leader of the Commitment!
With half the Beatles on the bench in John Paul Losman, can greatness be far behind?
December 18th, 2009 at 10:51 am
A little hung over and cranky…sorry for the bad attitude.
December 18th, 2009 at 10:53 am
Poor Tui. I was rootin for him too.
December 18th, 2009 at 10:53 am
Los Raiders
Meaningless?
We’ve gotten some very solid players, even recently, throught the draft. Although, yes typically our first day picks are wastes or develop into gamers on other teams.
Some players take time to develop. DMAC and DHB still have tremendous upside but they are not every-down players. They have to be used correctly, which Cable has not done.
Cable’s real meat and potatoes and wants football players who can play 60 minutes.
We need mean mofos on this team, particularly at DT, MLB, and SS. We are sorely lacking up the middle.
December 18th, 2009 at 10:54 am
new post
December 18th, 2009 at 1:15 pm
the reason why he can’t break runs is because he can’t break tackles. get him in space, use him like R.Bush.