Beating Broncos would serve Cable well
By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Saturday, December 19th, 2009 at 1:29 pm in Oakland Raiders.
News, notes and observations heading into the Raiders game Sunday in Denver against the Broncos:
– The Broncos have not only proved to be an accurate litmus test for how the Raiders will fare in some seasons, but served as an opponent beleaguered coaches can use to save their jobs.
When the Raiders put a 31-10 beating on the Broncos at Invesco Field last Nov. 23, it helped along a slump which ended with the firing of Mike Shanahan and helped the case of Tom Cable in terms of removing “interim” from his job title.
The last two games of the season against Houston and Tampa Bay sealed the deal, but Al Davis probably would have made up his mind before then if the Raiders had been spanked the the Broncos.
By contrast, Lane Kiffin’s tenure was over the moment the Raiders embarrassed themselves 41-14 in their Monday night opener against Denver, although Davis waited three more games to build his case and warm up the overhead projector.
Davis, already ticked off by Kiffin’s defiance, may have ousted him after one year had it not been for two games against Denver. In Week 2, the Raiders lost 23-20 in a game they would have won had Sebastian Janikowski not plunked an upright. The Raiders beat the Broncos in the rematch 34-20 in the Coliseum, the best game of the Kiffin regime.
Art Shell, 0-2 against Denver, was gone after one year. Norv Turner, 1-3, lasted two seasons, including a Broncos sweep by a score of 55-20 in 2005. Bill Callahan’s AFC champions beat the Broncos twice in 2002, but his fate was probably sealed the next year in the “Dumbest Team in America” loss to Denver.
– Nnamdi Asomugha gets his hopes up every Sunday that he’ll be challenged repeatedly. Considering that Denver wide receiver Brandon Marshall normally lines up on the same side as Asomugha, he could get his wish.
Marshall caught an NFL record 21 passes in a loss to Indianapolis last week, gaining 200 yards. Last season, Marshall had an 18-catch game against San Diego, giving him two of the top four singe-game reception totals in NFL history.
“He’s the `X’ usually and comes out to the right side, so I’ll probably see a lot of him,” Asomugha said Friday. “I mean, he got 21, he dropped three, so this is a game where you go in and you know the ball is coming, so you have a chance at making plays.”
Considering the number of hitch routes, bubble screens and the like the Broncos throw to Marshall, the key is limited the yardage because receptions are inevitable.
“He’s going to get his,” Asomugha said. “I mean, if you throw at him 30 times, he’s going to get something out of that. That’s what you saw last week . . . I’ve said for the last two or three years he’s one of teh toughest guys to bring down after the catch, along with (Anquan) Boldin and Steve Smith. That’s why they give him the screens and shorter routes and stuff likethat. You have to gang tackle him.”
– Asomugha, one of the most observant and analytical players you’ll ever talk to, had some interesting observations on Broncos head coach Josh McDaniels, the former Patriots coordinator who took over for Shanahan.
In the Shanahan years, the Broncos were predictable in terms of how they were going to attack, but in their good years so flawless in terms of execution they were difficult to stop.
The Broncos would have only a few runs in their playbook, with a bread-and-butter stretch play, designed for backs to make one cut in a zone blocking scheme and head up field.
Those plays were mixed in with a passing game heavy with bootlegs and rollouts, with a lot of involvement from the tight ends. It was a system Kiffin copied and the Raiders used extensively in 2007, with Cable altering things in terms of depth of receivers and the like after taking over as interim coach.
Under McDaniels, the Denver offense, according to offense, has been like chameleon.
“A lot of coordinators have their basic plays, regardless of who they’re playing against,” Asomugha said. “But this is a guy, you watch the film from last week and it looks nothing like the film from the week before, or the week before that. Every week is different.
“He came out against New England, we’d never seen them in a wildcat. But he knew Miami had got New England a year or so bak, and he knew it would work. There were some things he’s done against us that he’s never done the rest of the year that worked. Shanahan would do what he does, sometimes have different people doing it. That’s how he’d get you. But with Josh, it’s completely new every week.
“Those are the guys you love to face, because it’s the fun of the game. You have to be really focused.”
– A rarity Sunday _ the Raiders and 49ers will be on television locally at the same time. The 49ers game was moved to the later time slot because of weather conditions in Philadelphia. The attempts to never have teams in the same market compete against each other when it makes up the schedule.
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December 19th, 2009 at 1:31 pm
Based on Al Davis’ personality…he either called Lane (Lance) during the the press conference because…
1. He is senile.
or
2. He was trying to prove how inferior Kiffin was to him by purposely not getting his name right in front of millions. As little as that was, it was a silent message that Davis didn’t truly respect him.
December 19th, 2009 at 1:31 pm
The fact that Lane Kiffin actually tried to get his father to Oakland was proof that Lane Kiffin was in it for the long haul and it was Al Davis who wasn’t. If Kiffin wanted out so badly, why would he have reached out to Monte Kiffin to join his staff? Because he wanted to continue to better the Raiders and Al Davis was actually holding him back from doing so because it wasn’t in the best interest of Al Davis…meaning…if the team wasn’t winning Al Davis’ way, he’d rather lose.
December 19th, 2009 at 1:33 pm
I hate the donkeys. I hope they break Orton’s collarbone tomorrow.
December 19th, 2009 at 1:34 pm
Jerry – What difference does it make now?
December 19th, 2009 at 1:36 pm
Vegas Raider, that’s a nice defense of Al Davis you wrote up on the previous thread, but you failed to factor in just how many busts Al Davis has drafted in recent years. You start right off saying that all GM’s draft a bust here and there, giving the impression that either they all draft busts as much as Al Davis does, which isn’t true, or that Al Davis has only drafted a few busts, and most of his draft picks turn out to have an impact and help the team win, obviously untrue as well, considering we haven’t won in 7 years.
December 19th, 2009 at 1:38 pm
Crazy money spent on JaMarcus. If he doesn’t become the poster boy for a rookie salary cap and get that done I don’t know what will. And he’s far from alone in terms of draft picks paid tens of millions who never do anything in the NFL.
It’s ridiculous how much the guys at the top of the draft are getting paid — often $10 million per year. Meanwhile, mid-round guys like Michael Bush, Louis Murphy, Mario Henderson, Tyvon Branch, etc. — they’re lucky if their contract is worth $600,000 per year.
December 19th, 2009 at 1:40 pm
Jerry, beating the Broncos will only expedite Al’s decision to fire Cable. Cable beats Denver with Frye as QB? That’s Al’s biggest nightmare. It would deem Russell as a waste of a roster spot, and Al’s sticking with Russell for the long haul, no matter what. Jon Gruden won some big games in 2001 with a west coast offense and a short throwing quarterback. He win the division, and was one bad call short of reaching the AFC title game. Did Al keep him aboard?
December 19th, 2009 at 1:41 pm
Kiffin knew Russell was over-rated, over-hyped and over-weight. He wanted Jeff Garcia and Calvin Johnson.
Davis knew best. Russell was the black Elway.
Kiffin was right. Garcia would have been a great fit and CJ is one of the best WR in the league.
Russell is a bust. The truth was the LSU had a great Oline that took all the pressure away and Russell had two top-class receivers (Doucett and Bowe) to make up for all his shortcomings. Yes, Russell had the best pro-day in SEC history, so what. He never had the mobility, the instinct or the mentality to handle a NFL pass-rush. Brady Quinn has limitations but he is a fighter. Russell is a very fat rabbit caught in the pro-headlights.
December 19th, 2009 at 1:42 pm
Al Davis needs Jon Gruden, but Al burns bridges, so he wont come, especially after Jon beat Al in the Superbowl.
December 19th, 2009 at 1:44 pm
Brady Quinn’s a woman, Scottish Raider. A straight up woman. There were no quarterbacks in that draft.
December 19th, 2009 at 1:45 pm
Gruden would only come here for guaranteed money and control of the team. Al’s got plenty more lies up his sleeve for his die hard, money spending fans before he hires a GM or coach and gives them control.
December 19th, 2009 at 1:47 pm
MR, You are right. Brady is a woman.
December 19th, 2009 at 1:47 pm
Because Kiffen hated Robbo
December 19th, 2009 at 1:48 pm
maybe?
December 19th, 2009 at 1:49 pm
Brady Quinn was drafted like number 22! The whole league knew he sucked. Everyone knew it except for ESPN.
December 19th, 2009 at 1:49 pm
Real, half-right. There were no good QBs in that draft but at least with Quinn you get 100% effort – even if that doesn’t make him very good. I think Russell knew he was over-rated, he knew he was a fraud. That is why the contract was dragged out, just to maintain the pretense for a few more months.
December 19th, 2009 at 1:50 pm
If Al would have kept Kiffin, we’d be a playoff team this year.
December 19th, 2009 at 1:51 pm
If Al had kept Gruden, we would have been a dynasty!
December 19th, 2009 at 1:53 pm
Al’s ego is the problem. He thinks he knows it all and everybody else can wipe his shoe. hence 6 winning seasons in 20 years. Shameful!
December 19th, 2009 at 1:57 pm
We would have won Super Bowl 37 if Al kept Gruden, that’s a near certainty. Who knows who Gruden would have had to succeed Gannon. I’m sure he would have landed someone better than Tui. We probably would have had a couple more playoff appearances and Gruden would be gone by now. But it would have definitely ended up better. Al Davis took nearly a decade away from Raider fans. The Raiders might as well have not even been in the league from ‘03 to today. Aside from a few upsets in lost seasons, it will all be a huge blank in the history books. Sad, when you think about it. But, most fans don’t care. It’s all about just going to games and getting thrashed. It’s not about winning.
December 19th, 2009 at 1:58 pm
I never thought I would say this, but don’t spend a nickel on the Raiders until Al decides winning is more important than his ego
December 19th, 2009 at 2:01 pm
Real, Black – you’re both right.
Davis just got greedy over Gruden. Tampa made a ridiculous offer and Davis took the bait. He thought Gruden was just a component. The truth was that Gruden was the leader and the inspiration. Callaghan was a good coach but not in Gruden’s class.
Davis and Kiffin could have been a great combination but Davis felt threatened and Kiffin lacked the subtlety and the motivation to repair the relationship. The truth is that Davis wants control more than victories. He would rather lose games than loss power. Kiffin is still a bit of a punk, he still shoots his mouth off too much, he is still too brash and too egotistical – but he can coach. He will be a great coach. He will restore the Vols to glory. He would have taken the Raiders to the play-offs this year.
But this is still Davis’ team. His own personal ego-trip. Shame.
December 19th, 2009 at 2:01 pm
MR, to you and me, winning is everything! Al only cares about control, not winning. He has proven this over and over again. You either play and lose his way, and not play at all.
December 19th, 2009 at 2:03 pm
Me ansd 24 were talking about this yesterday….
Al signed a three year extension in Oakland.
24 informed me the 49er’s are building a staduim,where I 4get.But anyway if you guys dont go Al will leave 2 go to the new 49er stadium or look elsewhere if he dont sell out.
Its a dangerous stand-off….unless you guys want Al 2 move away again…
Again I dont know how far away the new 49er stadium is from Oakland….maybe it wont make a difference
December 19th, 2009 at 2:06 pm
# Richochet Says:
December 19th, 2009 at 12:06 pm
Sweep The Leg. Says:
December 19th, 2009 at 10:49 am
Angriest Poster of the Year–Richochet
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You, walnetto, couldn’t be more wrong.
Laughing…honestly laughing my ass off for most of my ’schoolings’ is hardly angry.
OH..I GET IT…what you mean is “Poster who’s astute views brings out the most inner anger among those who feel they have little in recourse”…
Well sure…I can see that
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I don’t really think you’re angry Jerry, I mean Richochet, I mean Jerry. I do think you enjoy making us feel miserable and expressing what you normally can’t say outloud.
By the way, what is a walnetto?
December 19th, 2009 at 2:07 pm
Al should move the Raiders. Who will take him nobody knows. But Al should move because he does not want glory for any city just control of his team. I say Al move the team. We can spend our money on teams in cities trying to win. Not here in Oakland
December 19th, 2009 at 2:09 pm
It does not take much efFort in discouraging others from spending their money on Raiders products. The team loses, so nobody WANTS to buy. Pretty basic!
December 19th, 2009 at 2:11 pm
And Al will not change; his people will just keep a lower profile.
December 19th, 2009 at 2:23 pm
Nobody wants the Raiders. Cities will pay for francises that want to win, not suffer an owner like AD. AD won three Superbowls, is in the HOF, so he does not give a fluuck unless it affects him. Raider fans keep your money in your pocket.
December 19th, 2009 at 2:25 pm
4eva,
Standoff….its about winning freekn games.
it took 7 years of the worst football in NFL history for the Raider fanbase to get to this point.
7 years with no improvement…and no improvement in sight.
Davis doesn’t give a damn! He just goes about his business comfortable in the fact that he doesn’t have to pay attention.
We all want the Raiders to win…..I don’t care…I just want them to compete each week….have a reason to even watch the game besides just passing time.
6 freekn winning seasons in 20 years. Now I am not 50 or 60 years old so the distant past does not massage my patience.
This is garbage and the root cause of it is an owner without a freekn clue!
December 19th, 2009 at 2:31 pm
time to rebuild…
um… not rebuild…
start over… that’s it… start over…
all new people…
December 19th, 2009 at 2:33 pm
what I mean by stand-off is….
If most fans are of a like mind as yours SnB,and if you guys no longer go to the games,well if I was Big Al and you guys dont show up and I cant make money well C-YAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
December 19th, 2009 at 2:34 pm
Florida Pete,
The Raiders have to cut the dead weight. Hopefully the Raiders just invest all of their draft picks and free agent money into lineman and linebackers.
With great line play and a defense that can slow down the run…then it won’t matter how inferior Davis’ skill position players are.
Then at least we could go 7-9 and surprise with an 8-8 once in a while. Play some meaningful games in November.
What a freekn joke the Raiders have become
December 19th, 2009 at 2:36 pm
4eva,
Its a standoff then. I didn’t go to any home games this year….and only went to 1 of 3 planned road games.
Why should the fanbase go to the games if the team is just going to get blown out.
Why go if DAvis won’t even freekn TRY to make some basic changes that could help the team on the field….BASIC CHANGES!
I mean, going into next year…we are looking at 5-11 again because free agency won’t work and we will draft more busts.
December 19th, 2009 at 2:38 pm
# Sweep The Leg. Says:
December 19th, 2009 at 2:06 pm
# Richochet Says:
December 19th, 2009 at 12:06 pm
Sweep The Leg. Says:
December 19th, 2009 at 10:49 am
Angriest Poster of the Year–Richochet
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You, walnetto, couldn’t be more wrong.
Laughing…honestly laughing my ass off for most of my ’schoolings’ is hardly angry.
OH..I GET IT…what you mean is “Poster who’s astute views brings out the most inner anger among those who feel they have little in recourse”…
Well sure…I can see that
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I don’t really think you’re angry Jerry, I mean Richochet, I mean Jerry. I do think you enjoy making us feel miserable and expressing what you normally can’t say outloud.
By the way, what is a walnetto?
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Don’t be coy, Walnetto.
I don’t enjoy making you miserable. I enjoy watching your own words, clarified in a dignified manner, make you feel miserable.
I’m not the messenger..simply the voice of reason.
It is my lot in life to further enhance yours.
You may thank me with a Starbucks card..or a direct deposit via Paypal.
As far as “can’t say out loud”??
Hmmmm…let’s see.
We’re online.
I SUPPOSE I can say it out loud, but not sure you’ll hear me.
Ok…test…what did I just say, out loud, about your weak post?
December 19th, 2009 at 2:39 pm
I’m not saying Al is perfect or anything.If I was Al I would have NEVER moved in the 1st place.Best fans in the WORLD,Extreme Winning Tradition in Oakland and in Northern Calli to boot.
December 19th, 2009 at 2:42 pm
SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
December 19th, 2009 at 2:34 pm
Florida Pete,
The Raiders have to cut the dead weight. Hopefully the Raiders just invest all of their draft picks and free agent money into lineman and linebackers.
With great line play and a defense that can slow down the run…then it won’t matter how inferior Davis’ skill position players are.
Then at least we could go 7-9 and surprise with an 8-8 once in a while. Play some meaningful games in November.
What a freekn joke the Raiders have become
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that’s what made me so upset about last years draft…
we drafted people we didn’t need…
we drafted tweeners…
we left people on the board who could have helped us…
and those same people would be here for a few years…
instead…
we had a wasted draft…
many of our players are becoming free agents…
and what we will have next year is not likely to be very good even if we do have a good draft…
you can’t piss opportunity away year after year and expect success…
but you and I have been echoing each other on these board…
i rarely read something you post that i don;t agree with…
we gotta start over…
start with the lines… and the linebackers…
the rest will take care of itself…
building from the outside in is the dumbest schit i ever heard of…
drafting people you don’t need is even dumber…
December 19th, 2009 at 2:46 pm
SnB….You have been extremely upset about the blow-outs.Let me ask you this….
If we went 0-16 but lost every game by 1 point would you still support the Raiders?
December 19th, 2009 at 2:49 pm
Florida Pete Says:
December 19th, 2009 at 2:42 pm
that’s what made me so upset about last years draft…
we drafted people we didn’t need…
we drafted tweeners…
we left people on the board who could have helped us…
and those same people would be here for a few years…
instead…
we had a wasted draft…
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Wow..Captain Obvious.
did you think of that all on your own?
*pat on head*..good boy. Awesome deduction.
“Drafted people we didn’t need”??
“left people on the board who could have helped us”???
Heavy stuff..I mean…who would have thunk?
I mean..no one knew that…we should have just waited for your little light bulb to go on, and just glow in you sharing the wisdom.
Yep, Captain “Firm grasp of the Obvious”..that 15w bulb of yours never has shown so bright.
Dude..do you EVER discuss anything except the draft? Funny watching you IMMEDIATELY jump to breaking down NEXT YEARS DRAFT back in Sept…yeah…BACK IN FREAKING SEPT..and since then, you’ve gone through this silly sorry LIST of players, position by position..which is about as DUMB A WASTE OF TIME as you whining like a little girl about how ‘I’m DONE WITH THIS TEAM. I’m going to go PULL WEEKS IN MY YARD.’
You need to get a grip, Captain Obvious…lol..sounds like you’re approaching that precarious edge.
December 19th, 2009 at 2:59 pm
If we woulda drafted the guys Pete wanted we be waaaay better off,imo
December 19th, 2009 at 3:00 pm
Florida Pete, I take back everything I said about you. Richochet, you is a dumb lil boy!
December 19th, 2009 at 3:05 pm
Richoshyt, your momma’s bouncing nher head on my lap. She says you are no good. Who knew?
December 19th, 2009 at 3:07 pm
Richoshyt, what’s with your cut and paste posting. Are you too dull for a thought of your own? It’s okay to be dumb. Your momma says you try.
December 19th, 2009 at 3:10 pm
Ya, just think of the type of QB we would have had after Gannon if Gruden was still with the team. Maybe if we were lucky they might have been as good as some of the QB’s Gruden brought into Tampa, LOL.
And I am so ticked off that had Gruden stayed with Oakland for the same length of time he was in Tampa we might have a team like he left in Tampa, they are loaded off the 3/4 decade Gruden and Allen were in control of bringing in the players, just loaded, LOL, what a joke.
Just maybe Gruden did so well in Oakland with players because Al Davis and Gruden worked well together because Gruden sure did take off from Tampa and after all his time with the team the Tampa team has very little talent and is still looking for a QB.
December 19th, 2009 at 3:12 pm
Snny, I don’t think Gruden is all that good at talent evaluation. He does know how to coach. Put him with an excellent personnel guy and we would rule the world
December 19th, 2009 at 3:13 pm
11/25/2009 LB Jon Alston placed on injured reserve, CB John Bowie waived, LB Slade Norris signed to active roster
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I had no idea.I have been wondering if they think Norris can grow into a MLB.The kid is only 24 and tips the scales at 245.MLB maybe?
December 19th, 2009 at 3:16 pm
4eva, I hope Norris can play MLB. Does he have that killer instinct?
December 19th, 2009 at 3:23 pm
here ya go Captn:Slade Norris
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COLLEGE: Four-year letterwinner at Oregon State…Totaled 19 sacks during his junior and senior seasons…Collected 82 tackles during his collegiate career…Started all 13 games as a senior…Second on Oregon State with 10 sacks for 75 yards…Totaled 57 tackles, 19 solo…Had 18.5 tackles for a loss for 119 yards…Registered two passes defensed and one quarterback hurry…Recovered one fumble and forced three…Moved from linebacker to defensive end before his junior season…Accounted for nine sacks and 10 overall tackles for a loss…Had 16 tackles for the season…His 87 sack yards was the third-highest in the Pac-10…Totaled nine tackles as a sophomore…Contributed on special teams and at linebacker…Named the defensive scout team MVP following the season…Missed most of his redshirt freshman season due to injuries…Speech Communication major.
December 19th, 2009 at 3:25 pm
I guess he already been in a game or 2 no stats tho
December 19th, 2009 at 3:26 pm
I’m definitely looking 4 him vs. Broncos
December 19th, 2009 at 3:28 pm
At this point, nothing matters except to destroy the Broncos at home. They must go down very hard! I hope Mike Mitchell sees every Bronco player as another Fred Smoot.
December 19th, 2009 at 3:31 pm
While it was a Redskins player who injured Zach, it is the Broncos who must pay the fare.
December 19th, 2009 at 3:36 pm
I’m good with that CaptainBlack
December 19th, 2009 at 3:36 pm
did somebody say Middle Linebacker
we can get this guy with the first of our 2 picks in the 3rd round…
Micah Johnson, Kentucky
Height: 6-2. Weight: 254.
Projected 40 Time: 4.71.
December 19th, 2009 at 3:38 pm
4eva, what is your take: I thought Frye outplayed Grad in the preseason. I hope it continues tomorrow. Nothing would be better
December 19th, 2009 at 3:40 pm
sup NATION?
December 19th, 2009 at 3:44 pm
CaptainBlack….
I dont know honestly.I hope Frye plays lights out and never has to let go of the starting job.That said I think Gradkowski will make less mistakes.Yep we got ourselves a good ol QB controversy brewing and I love it!!!!
AQnd both these guys are young and good,imo
December 19th, 2009 at 3:45 pm
hey 408 wassup bro
December 19th, 2009 at 3:45 pm
How about Losman?
December 19th, 2009 at 3:50 pm
4eva Im trying to decide if I wanna start Lance moore over santana moss
December 19th, 2009 at 3:50 pm
And Captn…
Some say that Frye and Grads Blah blah blah,and they just entering their 4 th year.Only Marino was ready.Matt Ryan and Joe Flacco didnt have as good a year as they did last year….now DC know them a little better and maybe a little of that sophmore jinx….I was saying early in the year that it was just the sophmore jinx for #2 BUT BOY WAS I EVER WRONG!!!!
December 19th, 2009 at 3:51 pm
the guy from Saints 408?
December 19th, 2009 at 3:54 pm
Havnt seen Losman 4awhile….all I know Vegas Raider was happy about the pick up of Losman and sad for Gradkowski…..I think they gonna have to pry it off Grads dead fingers lol
December 19th, 2009 at 3:55 pm
yeah but he just got healthy
December 19th, 2009 at 3:55 pm
Frye sure does have a stronger arm it seems and Losman’s is even stronger?
December 19th, 2009 at 3:56 pm
Moss prolly out preform just 4 the fact that Brees has a MILLION targets lol
December 19th, 2009 at 3:57 pm
yeah Ima be pissed if Im wrong…
December 19th, 2009 at 3:59 pm
408 I’m gonna go look at your line-up….keep Captain company =) I B right back
December 19th, 2009 at 4:01 pm
looks good 408 just the way I woulda played it if I didnt suck soooo bad
December 19th, 2009 at 4:02 pm
hey 408 Roxy says Yo!!!!
December 19th, 2009 at 4:03 pm
lol as long as his chef rb doesnt go off I got this
December 19th, 2009 at 4:03 pm
Are you talking to me?
Are you talking to me?
December 19th, 2009 at 4:04 pm
Stella!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
December 19th, 2009 at 4:06 pm
Badges? Badges? We don’t need no stinking badges!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
December 19th, 2009 at 4:08 pm
bow wow wow.. Roxy!!!
December 19th, 2009 at 4:09 pm
Drink another one ENGLANDRAIDER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
December 19th, 2009 at 4:09 pm
she says that will work 408 lol
December 19th, 2009 at 4:12 pm
408 who you have 2 worry about is Ray Rice.I had him in my other league and week in and week out he was my best player
December 19th, 2009 at 4:15 pm
I may just do that 4eva.
There’s a lot to be said for a good pint of ale.
December 19th, 2009 at 4:17 pm
that there is ENGLANDRAIDER!!!!!!!!!!!!!
December 19th, 2009 at 4:18 pm
Hey Al!
Are you reading tonight?
We know you read Jerry’s blog Al.
How about that GM?
Come on Al, you know we love you but you’re 80 and you just can’t do what you used to do without a lot of drugs.
December 19th, 2009 at 4:20 pm
my door is open if you need me Al lol
December 19th, 2009 at 4:20 pm
Hey LMN you home yet?
It’s freezing out there.
December 19th, 2009 at 4:35 pm
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December 19th, 2009 at 5:21 pm
4evaRaider Says:
December 19th, 2009 at 4:20 pm
my door is open if you need me Al lol
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if you promise to build the lines…
you get my vote…
3eva 4 gm !!!
December 19th, 2009 at 5:22 pm
i shouldn’t type in the dark…
4… 4 eva for gm…
December 19th, 2009 at 5:27 pm
# CaptainBlack Says:
December 19th, 2009 at 3:07 pm
Richoshyt, what’s with your cut and paste posting. Are you too dull for a thought of your own? It’s okay to be dumb. Your momma says you try.
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See?? This is why Raider fans have the rep of being dumber than cotton..even simple things escape them.
Pay attention, dumbass.
I cut and paste the OTHER POSTERS COMMENTS, moron.
Then I proceed to add my own enlightening take.
You so stupid you can’t grasp that?
See..now..you know it’s YOU that is being called a moron. It’s YOU who’s being detailed as a tool.
No suspense. No wondering. And no fear of rebuttal.
You? Hell, little boy..you screamed ‘I’m a stupid kid” with your weak ass middle school “yo mama” whimper.
Dead giveaway that thinking isn’t your forte’.
Now..quick..say something about “mother” “sister” or whatever, so your 12 year old friends can giggle along.
Good boy.
December 19th, 2009 at 5:29 pm
For those of who have bought season tickets the past 5 years.
I implore all of you to tell your whacked season ticket rep, that you will renew ONLY when Al Davis hires a GM and or Jon Gruden as the head coach!
Ask them if Al Davis gives a rats a$$ about the fans of the Raider Nation also. The ticket rep will be silent for about 5 seconds or stutter and mumble out words to try to defend the old crazy looney old man!
December 19th, 2009 at 5:30 pm
# Florida Pete Says:
December 19th, 2009 at 5:21 pm
4evaRaider Says:
December 19th, 2009 at 4:20 pm
my door is open if you need me Al lol
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if you promise to build the lines…
you get my vote…
3eva 4 gm !!!
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I told you, peanut..stick to whining like a little girl about “my weeds..my weeds..I have to pull my weeks”
LMAO that the twit you’re posting your idiot take about is the other poster who feels compelled, like you, to share his daily on-goings..”I’m doing my laundry now. What detergent should I use?” “I’m taking my dog for a walk. Bye. Uh…bye!!!….CAN’T SOMEONE SAY BYE???”
Insecurity loves company.
Good for you two.
December 19th, 2009 at 5:31 pm
Lines will be PRIORITY ONE Pete
December 19th, 2009 at 5:32 pm
Cap’n Black,
so far as I have read, the sole original thought that Rico has expressed on this site was his willingness to accept a wager contra MR’s pronostication of the the starting QB next year for the Silver and Black (which of course MR would never pay up to so the entire exercise is laid moot.)
December 19th, 2009 at 5:39 pm
Rico,
if you changed your moniker to “Redux” or “Redundancy” or “Ad nauseum” or even a simple “Repetitiveness” you might more accurately capture your lack of creative addition to all and any.
December 19th, 2009 at 5:39 pm
MESSAGE TO SEASON TICKET HOLDERS:
For those of who have bought season tickets the past 5 years.
I implore all of you to tell your whacked season ticket rep, that you will renew ONLY when Al Davis hires a GM and or Jon Gruden as the head coach!
Ask them if Al Davis gives a rats a$$ about the fans of the Raider Nation also. The ticket rep will be silent for about 5 seconds or stutter and mumble out words to try to defend the old crazy looney old man!
December 19th, 2009 at 5:40 pm
LMFAO…You can always tell when someone is “slow”
Cappy posts three posts..in a row…to me. 3:00, 3:05, 3:07. 3 grade school silly takes, of one to two sentences.
In other words, I was right..thinking gives you a headache, doesn’t it?
And what’s with the ghetto ebonics? Are you slow, stupid, or lazy? Just curious.
tell you what..don’t tell us..let us form our own opinion from your astute takes.
I’m going back and forth between “slow” and “stupid”..maybe on the line of “slopid”.
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# CaptainBlack Says:
December 19th, 2009 at 3:00 pm
Florida Pete, I take back everything I said about you. Richochet, you is a dumb lil boy!
# CaptainBlack Says:
December 19th, 2009 at 3:05 pm
Richoshyt, your momma’s bouncing nher head on my lap. She says you are no good. Who knew?
# CaptainBlack Says:
December 19th, 2009 at 3:07 pm
Richoshyt, what’s with your cut and paste posting. Are you too dull for a thought of your own? It’s okay to be dumb. Your momma says you try.
December 19th, 2009 at 5:42 pm
Yep when I’m on here talking with people and I have 2 leave I always say,well I gotta go do chores so my fello Breathern knows I am leaving. This way they wont ask a question or make a statment to me because they know I’m leaving and I dont appear rude by not answering.Just showing RESPECT to my Nation Brothers,because I think they deserve it.
Some people have no idea of basic manners,imo
December 19th, 2009 at 5:44 pm
# M Lonetree Says:
December 19th, 2009 at 5:32 pm
Cap’n Black,
so far as I have read, the sole original thought that Rico has expressed on this site was his willingness to accept a wager contra MR’s pronostication of the the starting QB next year for the Silver and Black (which of course MR would never pay up to so the entire exercise is laid moot.)
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And yet when I challenged your sorry inept ass to a debate regarding Al Davis, JR,..hell…any topic of YOUR choosing, you bailed like a slapped on little girl.
As well, when I do torch the incessant idiot takes here, I also notice YOU stay in the shadows.
Yeah, mini-boy, right where it’s safest, right?
Oh..that’s right.
You stepped up..ONCE..didn’t you?
Didn’t fare too well, as I recall.
Actually..don’t recall much about you except on how easy it was to send you packing.
LMFAO knowing right now you have no idea what to say…what? going to challenge me on ANYTHING regarding the Raiders? Hell no..so just do what you do best..PRETEND YOU DIDN’T SEE IT..and get your sorryass back to the shallow end of the pool….
Where it’s safe.
Where the children play.
December 19th, 2009 at 5:49 pm
the cowgirls haven’t won a playoff game since 1997.while the old man is too old to do the job any longer,be careful what you ask for.
December 19th, 2009 at 5:53 pm
You need a freaking life, 4eva…
Seriously.
Do you not have any interests?
NONE????
You LIVE HERE..and dude, that is sad.
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# 4evaRaider Says:
December 19th, 2009 at 3:33 am
Morning Nation!!!!
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# 4evaRaider Says:
December 19th, 2009 at 5:42 pm
Yep when I’m on here talking with people and I have 2 leave I always say,well I gotta go do chores
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YOU’VE BEEN HERE ALL DAY LONG…posting hour after hour after hour..from 3:30 west coast time to 5:40 west coast time..THAT’S OVER 14 HOURS…and you posted EVERY SINGLE HOUR, SOME HOURS APPARENTLY NON-STOP.
You play no sports?
No interests?
NO HOBBIES??
Ever read a book? Watch a freaking movie? Work out?
ANYTHING EXCEPT LIVE ON THIS BOARD?
You’re sad dude..big time.
December 19th, 2009 at 5:59 pm
like I said before Richochet….
For you to know how much I am on here you gotta be on here to.I dont see you musc,so that mean you are hiding,lurking,stalking.Like I said you IDIOT be carefull what you say in your words,because you reveal a lot about your self.And what you reveal is VERY DISTURBING
December 19th, 2009 at 6:04 pm
4evaRaider Says:
December 19th, 2009 at 5:59 pm
like I said before Richochet….
For you to know how much I am on here you gotta be on here to.I dont see you musc,so that mean you are hiding,lurking,stalking.Like I said you IDIOT be carefull what you say in your words,because you reveal a lot about your self.And what you reveal is VERY DISTURBING
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two things…
i don’t read the idiot’s bullschitt… you should do the same…
if you decide to read his crap… don’t respond…
December 19th, 2009 at 6:08 pm
SOME PEOPLE CAN NOT HELP BEING,OVERBEARING PHYSCO-ANALTZING IDIOT’S,THINK THEY KNOW-IT ALL PEST’S..
December 19th, 2009 at 6:08 pm
Thanks 4 the advice Pete,I think I’ll take it =)
December 19th, 2009 at 6:09 pm
Hey Dirt-Lot Bro….the Broncos are going down hard!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
December 19th, 2009 at 6:12 pm
Young guy says to an old guy, “How old are women when they finally get of menapause”?
Old guy says, “164″.
But I shouldn’t say sexist jokes like that, broads don’t like it.
December 19th, 2009 at 6:16 pm
well Have a nice evening NATION!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
December 19th, 2009 at 6:19 pm
HEY 4EVA, WOULD NOT BE THE FIRST TIME THE RAIDER’S WENT INTO DENVER AN UDER-DOG ,AND COME AWAY WINNER’S. WOULD KOVE 2 SEE IT.
December 19th, 2009 at 6:27 pm
Man, I’m too pizzed to tell an old joke!
Life is sweet.
December 19th, 2009 at 6:27 pm
Take it easy 4eva!
December 19th, 2009 at 6:37 pm
as long as Frye doesn’t get hurt and the anchor doesn’t play,we have a chance to win this week-any week for that matter.while we have holes and aren’t a great team,we aren’t as bad as we seem when the anchor plays.
December 19th, 2009 at 6:39 pm
4evaRaider Says:
December 19th, 2009 at 5:59 pm
like I said before Richochet….
For you to know how much I am on here you gotta be on here to.I dont see you musc,so that mean you are hiding,lurking,stalking.Like I said you IDIOT be carefull what you say in your words,because you reveal a lot about your self.And what you reveal is VERY DISTURBING
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Let’s pretend that made ANY sense.
Ok..let’s not, because it doesn’t.
Want to see how ignorant your sorryass sounds?
You’re stating that I HAVE TO ACTUALLY BE ONLINE AT 3 AM IN ORDER TO HAVE SCANNED THROUGH POSTS FROM THAT TIME???
Think about it, moron..lol..this is the second time you’ve stated that the ONLY WAY I WOULD KNOW THAT YOU LIVE HERE…ALL….DAY….LONG..is to be here that whole time.
Geez..moron..NO WONDER YOU DON’T HAVE A LIFE..you’re too damn stupid to walk away.
Now?
15 hours..LMAO..yeah..15 hours and counting that you’ve BEEN SITTING THERE.
Let me ask again…YOU DON’T HAVE A SINGLE INTEREST IN LIFE EXCEPT FOR THIS BOARD??
Ever hear of a library, 4evaDumb??
Ever play a sport, 4evaLazy?
Ever have a relationship?
Ever do anything?
Apparently not..so..Gomer..just doesn’t get much sadder..than you.
That’s just a fact.
December 19th, 2009 at 6:46 pm
# Florida Pete Says:
December 19th, 2009 at 6:04 pm
4evaRaider Says:
December 19th, 2009 at 5:59 pm
like I said before Richochet….
For you to know how much I am on here you gotta be on here to.I dont see you musc,so that mean you are hiding,lurking,stalking.Like I said you IDIOT be carefull what you say in your words,because you reveal a lot about your self.And what you reveal is VERY DISTURBING
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two things…
i don’t read the idiot’s bullschitt… you should do the same…
if you decide to read his crap… don’t respond…
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You read EVERY SINGLE ONE..you’ve proven that over and over and over. You’ll reply to others, referring to me, in the 3rd person. You’ll state you don’t read me, while QUOTING ME, then state you had no idea what I said.
All in all, all you’ve perfected is letting everyone know that at ONE TIME you borrowed someone’s balls, got shot down, and immediately returned them.
Yeah, lol..I know. Now, get back to doing the ONLY thing you’re capable of..which is wondering “Duh…uh…WHO ARE WE GOING TO DRAFT??”…
now shut up before you hurt yourself..again.
December 19th, 2009 at 7:00 pm
Wow,
What a bunch of chicks!
Go Raiders!
December 19th, 2009 at 7:34 pm
I know this might sound corny but the Raiders have shown they can beat good teams…although I do wish it was more consistantly
December 19th, 2009 at 7:37 pm
Richoshyte, likes to play tough guy on the keyboard. Oh how I wish the lil turd was in front of me now. Whimpering lil turd. Your Momma said you are angry becaue you are hung like a hummingbird and no woman will have you, so you go and vent on blogs acting like you got a pair. Only problem is puzzies like you are all the same.
December 19th, 2009 at 7:38 pm
Come on Richoshyte, get those fingers limbered up, puzzy.
December 19th, 2009 at 7:41 pm
Richoshyte critisizing others for posting on a blog? Now that is shyte calling crap stinky. Hey, boy, come out and play.
December 19th, 2009 at 8:13 pm
[...] See the article here: Beating Broncos would serve Cable well – Inside the Oakland … [...]
December 19th, 2009 at 8:29 pm
I thought Al had to draft Russell at the time.
But I never met the guy.
The GM is 80 years old, can’t walk, doesn’t travel. I guess he gets all his info from ESPN. He’s like a fantasy football player.
December 19th, 2009 at 8:33 pm
It’s soooo disappointing Russell doesn’t hold himself accountable.
But Al Davis doesn’t either.
December 19th, 2009 at 8:35 pm
# ENGLANDRAIDER Says:
December 19th, 2009 at 4:20 pm
Hey LMN you home yet?
It’s freezing out there.
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yeah im home now, and im pissed the cowgirls won…
December 19th, 2009 at 9:54 pm
The key question is WHO, is the designated #2 QB? Is it JaBustus or is it New Guy J. P. Losman. I know who it would be if I were the HC.
Just knowing which way Cable played it would tell us a lot about JaBustus’ future with the S & B. It will also tell us what Cable perceives his future looks like – a man of means or, no means.
December 19th, 2009 at 11:53 pm
Curious to see what Frye can do tomorrow. Not expecting the kind of play we saw from Gradkowski, but it’ll be interesting nonetheless.
December 20th, 2009 at 12:02 am
“Beating Broncos would serve Cable well”
I’m not so sure. Didn’t work out so well w/ Michael Vick beating dogs. Why would beating a horse be any different?
December 20th, 2009 at 12:24 am
Oakland will beat hell out of Denver tomorrow cuz it means nothing…
December 20th, 2009 at 12:36 am
# Richochet Says:
December 19th, 2009 at 2:38 pm
# Sweep The Leg. Says:
December 19th, 2009 at 2:06 pm
# Richochet Says:
December 19th, 2009 at 12:06 pm
Sweep The Leg. Says:
December 19th, 2009 at 10:49 am
Angriest Poster of the Year–Richochet
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You, walnetto, couldn’t be more wrong.
Laughing…honestly laughing my ass off for most of my ’schoolings’ is hardly angry.
OH..I GET IT…what you mean is “Poster who’s astute views brings out the most inner anger among those who feel they have little in recourse”…
Well sure…I can see that
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I don’t really think you’re angry Jerry, I mean Richochet, I mean Jerry. I do think you enjoy making us feel miserable and expressing what you normally can’t say outloud.
By the way, what is a walnetto?
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Don’t be coy, Walnetto.
I don’t enjoy making you miserable. I enjoy watching your own words, clarified in a dignified manner, make you feel miserable.
I’m not the messenger..simply the voice of reason.
It is my lot in life to further enhance yours.
You may thank me with a Starbucks card..or a direct deposit via Paypal.
As far as “can’t say out loud”??
Hmmmm…let’s see.
We’re online.
I SUPPOSE I can say it out loud, but not sure you’ll hear me.
Ok…test…what did I just say, out loud, about your weak post?
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Okey dokey.
I guess I really have to choose my words carefully or you will find great delight in spitting in my face.
You are a wordsmith, a real Sir Francis Bacon.
December 20th, 2009 at 2:26 am
Raiders 24
Dungpile 17
No way they hang with the Fry!
December 20th, 2009 at 3:15 am
Hey Good Morning NATION and Plunketthead
December 20th, 2009 at 6:09 am
The sports pages are still squawking about Brandon Marshall’s record preformance last week.They say he should have another record-setting day against the “lowly” Raiders.
Dont these columnist realize that today Marshall will go against Nnamdi????
Orten will try and force the issue today and Tyvon Branch will make him pay with a pick 6
December 20th, 2009 at 6:56 am
I hope do well, but I fear for the worst. Denver’s offensive line is much better than ours. But then, the Broncos drafted Clady, we drafted McFadden.
December 20th, 2009 at 7:02 am
Yeah bring it on champ!Looking forward to Nnamdi vs. marshall. Nothing would be better for Christmas than a RAIDER victory in denver!!!!!
GO RAIDERS!!!!!!!!!
December 20th, 2009 at 7:11 am
YEAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
Come Raiders we know you can knock Denver out of the play-offs and give us a GREAT CHRISTMAN PRESENT TOO!!!!
YEAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
December 20th, 2009 at 7:22 am
good morning nation…
all i want for christmas is a beat down of the donkeys…
and 30 million in cash every month for the rest of my life…
and, of course, happiness and health for all the world’s children…
and a 10 hour orgasm…
and immortality…
and that’s it…
yeah, that should take care of things…
December 20th, 2009 at 7:25 am
Hey Santa….can ya duce that order!?!?!?!!??
December 20th, 2009 at 7:34 am
Where is that priick Richoshyte?
December 20th, 2009 at 7:35 am
Hopefully Frye and company can put 24 on the board.
December 20th, 2009 at 7:37 am
probably sitting on santa’s lap at a gay bar somewhere…
December 20th, 2009 at 7:37 am
I HATE THE DONKIES!!!!!
December 20th, 2009 at 7:45 am
lol
December 20th, 2009 at 7:47 am
I heard he was sucking on a slurpee
December 20th, 2009 at 7:51 am
What do you say about a clum guzzler like Richochet who spends his entire day cutting and pasting others post?
December 20th, 2009 at 7:53 am
It was Richochet’s head bobbing on Santa’s lap.
December 20th, 2009 at 7:54 am
What’s up fellas?
Frickin Pete bout made me spit coffee on the monitor!!
December 20th, 2009 at 7:54 am
Richochet will respond when everyone has left to watch the ball game. Go Raiders!
December 20th, 2009 at 8:12 am
Morning NATION! F them donkeys!!
December 20th, 2009 at 8:18 am
yep
December 20th, 2009 at 8:23 am
I just hope Frye does more running than throwing today. Just move the chains, run the clock as much as possible and hope our defense can give us some points.
The running game and Sea Bass is the only way to win this game.
Go Raiders!
December 20th, 2009 at 8:26 am
Come on beat Denver and if Frye goes down put Lechler in he can move in the pocket better than Russell and just as accurate!
December 20th, 2009 at 8:28 am
I think Marshall thinks he is the man now.Nothing like Nnamdi to bring him back down to earth
December 20th, 2009 at 8:34 am
I don’t know 4eva Marshall is sick he may go right at Nhamdi should be a good match-up.
December 20th, 2009 at 8:38 am
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u9iY1kdT0yM
December 20th, 2009 at 8:42 am
we’re gonna need two guys on Marshall…
December 20th, 2009 at 8:44 am
I am heartened by the–at last–realistic postings in this thread. Keep that billboard up indefinitely. Stay away from the games. Heep the criticism where it belongs (and don’t think the old time legacy players, the still collegial to Al confidants, the local business community don’t get wind of what how the prevailing sentiment to Al is changing) and, my friends, things will get better in time.
As for Al moving the team again, I would imagine a local revolt among the power elite unlike anything that’s every transpired before. He can’t flex his withered old muscles with a product like this. He’d suffer a real political beating, and-my guess-public pressure to sell the team.
Keep it up!
December 20th, 2009 at 8:48 am
Looks like 1 of our safetys could have a big day if Orten targets Marshall like he has been,imo
December 20th, 2009 at 9:04 am
4evaRaider, who are you talking (safety) about?
December 20th, 2009 at 9:10 am
Either 1.If Orten presses the issue with Marshall,close to the line like he has been with crossing routes….we sneak a safety over towards Marshall and BOOM
December 20th, 2009 at 9:10 am
I say trot out ol’ JaBling for one play. Keep both backs in to block and send JLH, Schilens and Murphy all on streak patterns to the same area. Kind of a Hail Mary but the donks won’t know that beforehand. Have JaBling just heave the ball as far and high as he can (has to be on first down to minimize blitz pressure). TD, intercept, incomplete, who cares? Then trot him right back to the bench. One $600,000 throw.
Man’s gotta earn his wages.
December 20th, 2009 at 9:25 am
I hate the donkeys! I have never been to a home game where we won Vs the donkeys.. F them!
December 20th, 2009 at 9:40 am
The offseason is in full swing in December…as usual..
I hope the Coach tries to get Bush and DMAC more work. I hope JLH, Schilens and Murphy get more work….might be nice to see more of Mitchell on the field as well.
Time to see more Bryant and Shaughnessy on the field too.
I hope Cable isn’t selfish and gives the next coach a chance to see more film on the good young players on the roster.
Offseason in full swing gents….Senior Bowl is coming up in a few weeks and the Combine in February
December 20th, 2009 at 9:41 am
I also hope Davis is talking to Fassell right now. Get him in here as soon as the Baltimore game is over
December 20th, 2009 at 9:42 am
Don’t play the veterans who are on the downside…with the exception of Frye…and let’s just see what the young guns can do. Let them build up the confidence that Tom Cable’s stupidity destroyed.
Cable was content to ice Bush, JLH and even Murphy….only injury has Murphy on the field….
I can’t wait till Cable is out of here
December 20th, 2009 at 9:43 am
Ok Snb…..Lets say Big Al fires or demotes Cable.Fassell is hired.We go 4-12 under Fassell,what would you do?
December 20th, 2009 at 9:44 am
Carr, who has played for the Tennessee Titans and Oakland Raiders, said the Ravens are prepared because they watch more film than any of his previous teams.
“Besides the quarterback, the secondary needs to watch the most film,” he said. “The hardest thing to do in the NFL is to cover somebody one-on-one.”
That’s why it is important for defensive backs to trust one another. One key to a successful pass defense is teammates relying on one another to be in the right position
http://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/ravens/bal-sp.ravens20dec20002021,0,5307318.story
December 20th, 2009 at 9:47 am
4evaRaider Says:
December 20th, 2009 at 9:43 am
Ok Snb…..Lets say Big Al fires or demotes Cable.Fassell is hired.We go 4-12 under Fassell,what would you do?
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Tom Cable has no idea how to develop these young players on offense. I don’t like the way he manages the roster and picks his starters.
If not for injury, Murphy would have been standing on the sidelines with JLH watching DHB drop balls all over the field.
Cable should be brought up on malpractice charges for the way he has iced Bush and underutilized McFadden.
Fassell will be able to evaluate talent a hell of a lot better than Cable.
Tom Cable deserves to be fired
December 20th, 2009 at 9:49 am
If Fassell goes 4-12 then we give him a 2nd year.
But Fassell will not put out players on the field that aren’t prepared to play like Cable did.
December 20th, 2009 at 9:54 am
Fassell will also run a real training camp and practice plays until the team gets it right.
Cable’s “Club Med” training camp was a DISASTER.
Cable’s insistence on playing Russell over Gradkowski or Frye despite Russell being overweight, lacking knowledge of the playbook, missing passes and being indifferent should get Cable fired alone!
At least Fassell knows how to coach QBs. With Fassell and Losman together…the offense will improve.
December 20th, 2009 at 9:54 am
Fire Cable!
December 20th, 2009 at 9:55 am
SnB…. A 4-12 record is the same number of losses no matter if its either Fassell or Cable and it dosent matter ones style,they would both have the same record of 4-12.One is NOT better than the other.They both suck exactly the same.
December 20th, 2009 at 10:03 am
I think our biggest problem is the revolving door policy of head coaches and the players trying to learn a diff, system year in and year out.When that ball is snapped its 100 mph out there and with all the system changes,any player can get confused at 100 mph.
So to stop the Ball-O-Confusion,I say no matter Cables record we must give him 1 more year,at least.Everybody says Cowher blah blah blah,well he didnt win it all for 12 years I think it was.12 YEARS.We will never win with all coaching carousel,imo.I hope Al finally see’s this
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