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Question of the day

By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Sunday, December 20th, 2009 at 4:33 pm in Oakland Raiders.

Let’s go ahead and get it out of the way right now.

Let’s say Bruce Gradkowski successfully rehabs his MCL tears and Charlie Frye’s head clears.

So, Tom Cable, who’s your starter against Cleveland?

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129 Responses to “Question of the day”

  1. Raiders4eve Says:

    Repost

    # Raiders4eve Says:
    December 20th, 2009 at 4:32 pm

    Kush

    Didnt you see him when his teammates went to congratulate him, he seemed to be cursing at them. This guy is an idiot but he won us the game just like Jeff George did for us in some games.

  2. 4evaRaider Says:

    WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

    HOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

  3. Mistabrown Says:

    Bruce no question!

    the end

  4. 408RAIDER Says:

    =) start the New Guy!

  5. Ghost to the Post Says:

    YeaH! Go Raiders….. Yeah

  6. weaselbit Says:

    bruce

  7. jhill Says:

    504 Raider Says:
    December 20th, 2009 at 4:30 pm
    Hey Vegas,

    will be sporting the fresh #2 jersey tomorrow buddy.

    ——————————————————-

    LMFAO!

  8. Thec07 Says:

    start a new let them all compete equally and may the BEST man win….

  9. lefty12 Says:

    no sacks on Frye in game.

  10. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    Mistabrown Says:
    December 20th, 2009 at 4:34 pm
    Bruce no question!

    the end
    ======================================================
    Errrr…not the end.

    All moves involving top draft picks must get clearance from you know who!

  11. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Dear Al Davis,

    Please, please, or anyone here who works for the Raiders, and I know some of you are here, please, please, review the videotape of the Pittsburgh game which shows Cable full of joy and celebrating at the end, and then observe tonight’s ending and see how Cable is obviously pissed. No emotion, just stoic and walking toward McDaniel. He’s obviously disappointed. He has the same look on his face as if he’d lose. Cable proved after the Pittsburgh game that he’s not one to hide his emotions. I think Hanson could attest to that, as well. Now look at him. He’s just blanked. He should be the happiest man on the planet right now, and he instead might be the angriest man on the planet. What a f’n joke…

  12. jhill Says:

    Where is everyone?

  13. Raiders4eve Says:

    Bruce all daaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay
    Backup Fryeeeeeeeeeee
    Third QBBBBBBBB Lossssssssssssmmaaaaan

    JAmeatloaf UFL

  14. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    Who cares about the QB!

    Who going to start at running back?!?

  15. raiderzride4free Says:

    bruce should still be starting if he is healthy. easy choice

  16. Thec07 Says:

    Everthing equal i start grad…..

    Csble needsd to turn over plasy calling….

  17. SaintKaufman Says:

    WOW!!

    That was stressful. Bad play calling, bad protection, great win!! Way to go Russell!

    M Bush should be the starter(again!) from here on out.

  18. 4evaRaider Says:

    #2 on ksfo

  19. jhill Says:

    Russell on the radio ..

    Should give you guys a lot of material.

  20. 504 Raider Says:

    Against Cleveland we gotta stop two guys. Cribbs and Harrison.

    Cribbs: 2 KR TDs
    Harrison: 286 yds 3 TDs

  21. Thec07 Says:

    The Real MaddenRaider Says:
    December 20th, 2009 at 4:36 pm
    Dear Al Davis,

    Please, please, or anyone here who works for the Raiders, and I know some of you are here, please, please, review the videotape of the Pittsburgh game which shows Cable full of joy and celebrating at the end, and then observe tonight’s ending and see how Cable is obviously pissed. No emotion, just stoic and walking toward McDaniel. He’s obviously disappointed. He has the same look on his face as if he’d lose. Cable proved after the Pittsburgh game that he’s not one to hide his emotions. I think Hanson could attest to that, as well. Now look at him. He’s just blanked. He should be the happiest man on the planet right now, and he instead might be the angriest man on the planet. What a f’n joke…

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Yeah, I am sure your pull as a semi pro blogger has caught the teams attention…ROFLMAO…

  22. jhill Says:

    What the hell is that grunt he always lets out while he’s talking?

  23. art shells clipboard Says:

    Gradsss no question, Great redemption for Jamarcus though. He can wear a mink today. Grads is the starter for the rest of the year, according to Cable, he gives us the best chance to win.

  24. 408RAIDER Says:

    # 4evaRaider Says:
    December 20th, 2009 at 4:39 pm

    #2 on ksfo
    ——————-

    still sounds slow.

  25. jhill Says:

    semi pro blogger ????

    You had him as a professional last I checked, lol!

  26. DirtyBathWater Says:

    oh one thing R.I.P. to my girl Brittany Murphy, you will awaken soon. prayers go out to all her family

  27. Kush Says:

    The defense won this game for us today.

    Keep Jamarcus, only if he restructures his contract.

  28. MadStork43 Says:

    Give it a rest, MR. Can’t you just be happy the Raiders won???

  29. UP LOCOMOTIVE ENGINEER Says:

    The Real MaddenRaider Says:
    December 20th, 2009 at 4:32 pm
    Not only were many fans rooting for Denver just to spite Russell and be right, to satisfy their own fragile egos, but obviously Tom Cable was as well. Look at his total lack of excitement. After the Denver game, you couldn’t control Cable. He was leaping around like he won the lottery. Now, he’s stoic, just walking straight with a blank stare as he approaches Josh McDaniel. Congratulations, Tom. You just took Al Davis’s title as the most evil prick in the Raiders’ organization. Fire the sack of shyt now, Al.
    =======================

    your the biggest al davis hater there is now you call him MR Davis and Al like your on a first name base

    Your a ………… RAIDER HATER

    WE WIN !!!!!! WE WIN!!!!!!!!!!

    AND AGAINST THE BRONCOS I LOVE IT WE PROBABLY HELPED KNOCK THEM OUT OF THE PLAYOFFS !!!!!

    I HATE AL DAVIS AND I HATE JaMeatloaf BUT I HATE THE BRONCOS MORE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO RAIDERS

  30. ohioraider Says:

    Gotta be the Brucinator. He’s the second coming of Gannon. Gonna inject a big dose of heart and optimism.

  31. jhill Says:

    SnB,

    You got your wish today … Not much Fargas and all, and what a difference it made! You were right about him. Did he get his 20 touches today?

  32. UP LOCOMOTIVE ENGINEER Says:

    START BRUCE !!!!!!!!

  33. art shells clipboard Says:

    Why would he be unhappy???

  34. 504 Raider Says:

    Jerry,

    To answer your question:

    Cable will huddle the entire team around him on the 50 yd line of the practice field and pull out a 38 and stick it in his mouth and squeeze.

  35. Thec07 Says:

    jhill Says:
    December 20th, 2009 at 4:41 pm
    semi pro blogger ????

    You had him as a professional last I checked, lol!

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++=

    My bad a typo, MR will allways be a semi pro…lol

  36. jhill Says:

    Kush Says:
    December 20th, 2009 at 4:41 pm

    The defense won this game for us today.

    ——————————————————-

    Right about that!

    What a job they did today, and way to keep fighting!

  37. UP LOCOMOTIVE ENGINEER Says:

    I HOPE WE WERENT JUST SHOWCASING BUSH ROR TRADE BAIT !!!!

  38. 4evaRaider Says:

    jhill Says:
    December 20th, 2009 at 4:40 pm
    What the hell is that grunt he always lets out while he’s talking?
    *************************************

    Coke Drip

  39. ENGLANDRAIDER Says:

    That was a great touchdown pass that Russell threw to Schilens.
    Give the guy credit. He had a lot of pressure on him and he pulled of a win.

    Just win baby!

  40. UP LOCOMOTIVE ENGINEER Says:

    ROR = FOR

  41. ENGLANDRAIDER Says:

    But he still sucks.

  42. jhill Says:

    Cornell Green is hilarious! I can’t wait to see Okung replace his arse next year!

    And one more whif by Satele … my goodness that was a tough hit Frye took!

  43. ENGLANDRAIDER Says:

    How ’bout that Huff hit on Marshall just before the end?!

    Way to Tatum it, Michael!!!

  44. UP LOCOMOTIVE ENGINEER Says:

    CABLE SAID FARGAS TWEEKED A KNEE

  45. ENGLANDRAIDER Says:

    Come the draft Al You really need to work on the OL!
    These quarterbacks are getting the crap knocked out of them.

  46. jhill Says:

    Frye will start next week with Russell as the backup, per Cable. As it should be.

  47. RaiderRetribution Says:

    We start Mr. Gradkowski, but I could see us starting Mr. Frye as he would want to give it to the Browns for trading him after one regular season start. Mr. Russell also earned another shot with that huge come from behind game winning drive against the arch-rival Denver Broncos today.

  48. 504 Raider Says:

    MR,

    Cable’s pissed because Al told him next time he gives out all those game balls, it’s coming out of his check.

  49. jhill Says:

    ENGLANDRAIDER Says:
    December 20th, 2009 at 4:46 pm

    Come the draft Al You really need to work on the OL!
    These quarterbacks are getting the crap knocked out of them.

    ——————————————————-

    Exactly! To be down to Losman, and the one play he is on to get hit, is GLARING!

    Be great to see Okung in here next year, along with maybe a trade for a veteran guy around 26 or so.

  50. RaiderRetribution Says:

    We need to run some wildcat w/ Mr. McFadden (QB) & Mr. Bush (RB) in the backfield.

  51. ENGLANDRAIDER Says:

    It’s up to Russell to start taking his job seriously and we’ll see how that works out after the off-season but I’m guessing the Bruce or Frye is going to be the guy.

  52. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    up locootive and thec,

    I know there’s at least one Raider employee in here. As long as they see my post, that’s all I care about. Then again, I’m sure they’ve already noticed, as Al and his henchmen are always looking for that sort of stuff. it’s how they score points with him. And, you’re barking up the wrong tree bragging to me about the win. I thought it was awesome. It’s Cable you need to brag to. He’s the one who’s upset. Did you see him after the game, with that blank stare? compare that to his reaction to the win against Pittsburgh, when his boy Gradkowski threw the winning pass.

  53. RaiderYYZ Says:

    Get a life Real Madden Raider,

    Seriously… You make many good points and everyone knows the shortcomings of the organization but WHY ARE YOU EVEN HERE!?!?!?!?!?!

  54. art shells clipboard Says:

    Yeah we need OL help in the draft, but well go corner, Routt is a free agent, Nickel defense is a more pressing need according to Al.

  55. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    jhill Says:
    December 20th, 2009 at 4:42 pm
    SnB,

    You got your wish today … Not much Fargas and all, and what a difference it made! You were right about him. Did he get his 20 touches today?
    ====================================================
    Bush got 18 for 133 and 1 TD……almost 2….

    Looks like an injury to Fargas allowed Bush to shine…kind of like last year.

  56. Nnamdi21 Says:

    Why’ did they stop running the Jumbo package after those two HUGE runs by Bush and DMC?!!!

    Pears, walker and Henderson all loaded on the left side payed big time dividends.

    Then on goal line, we dropped it…and didn’t score.

    C’mon ! Like Madden said, “Run it till they stop it!”

  57. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Cable knows that with this victory, he has to start Russell, or he’s fired. Cable is pissed. Now, from a political standpoint, I get it. But this is football. And what kind of head coach ever gets mad about a loss?

  58. ENGLANDRAIDER Says:

    Looks like the geat Art Shell was right about Huff.

  59. UP LOCOMOTIVE ENGINEER Says:

    The Real MaddenRaider Says:
    December 20th, 2009 at 4:49 pm
    up locootive and thec,

    I know there’s at least one Raider employee in here. As long as they see my post, that’s all I care about. Then again, I’m sure they’ve already noticed, as Al and his henchmen are always looking for that sort of stuff. it’s how they score points with him. And, you’re barking up the wrong tree bragging to me about the win. I thought it was awesome. It’s Cable you need to brag to. He’s the one who’s upset. Did you see him after the game, with that blank stare? compare that to his reaction to the win against Pittsburgh, when his boy Gradkowski threw the winning pass.
    ===========

    WATCH THE POST GAME PRESS CONFERENCE HE WAS HAPPY WITH THE WIN

  60. 4evaRaider Says:

    Bush got Extremely lucky his fumble in the 2nd quarter bounced DIRECTLY to Henderson

  61. jhill Says:

    I don’t think Cable is rooting against Russell at all. Why would he? He helped him get the damn job last year that he NEVER would have gotten somewhere else. Cable was right to bench Russell. Business, not personal.

    Now like I said, get an Asst Head Coach/OC in here and let’s get on with it!

  62. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    jhill Says:
    December 20th, 2009 at 4:48 pm
    ENGLANDRAIDER Says:
    December 20th, 2009 at 4:46 pm

    Come the draft Al You really need to work on the OL!
    These quarterbacks are getting the crap knocked out of them.

    ——————————————————-

    Exactly! To be down to Losman, and the one play he is on to get hit, is GLARING!

    Be great to see Okung in here next year, along with maybe a trade for a veteran guy around 26 or so.
    ======================================================
    You are setting yourself up for a big disappointment in April.

    With the 10th pick the Raiders select…….

  63. Bossinthe831 Says:

    Somebody link me to the postgame press conference!

  64. GForce21 Says:

    Routt leaving as a FA is not an issue, he is in trail position a ton

  65. jhill Says:

    http://ksfo560.com/article.asp?id=723446

  66. 4evaRaider Says:

    KFSOAM 560

  67. 504 Raider Says:

    I bet Art Shell was somewhere watching this game with a note pad.

  68. art shells clipboard Says:

    Gforce that was a joke, Al likes to draft corners!!!

  69. ENGLANDRAIDER Says:

    JHill:

    You’re right and Mr is wrong.
    Cable’s not rooting against Russell or anyone else. His job depends on winning games.

  70. RaiderYYZ Says:

    Tyvon, Shaughnessy, Schilens, Run DMC, Bush, Mike Huff, Mike Mitchell…

    I saw a lot of Al picks do alright today. Let’s all stop panicking about the negatives and just move forward.

    I think JaMarcus will be back next season as well, let’s just hope he gets his ass in gear and realizes he CAN be a good qb in this league.

  71. tuckrulefool Says:

    Want some sad ass news?

    IF oak had won last week (ie grads doesnt go down) OAK would STILL BE ALIVE RIGHT NOW FOR WC SLOT 2!

    Seriously at 6-8 they ‘would have needed’ to win out (@Cle vs Balt)

    and:

    1. Balt loss next week
    2. Miami losing out (0-2)
    3. Jets losing out (0-2)
    4. Jax losing out (0-2)
    5. Ten 1-1
    6. houston 1-1 if they tie with ten (or 0-2 otehrwise)
    7. steelers 1-1 (since they just beat GB)

    realistic? no but tell me it wouldnt be that much cooler STILL being alive when our games are on in late dec?

    that said, today was still AWESOME. well played as a team esp D.

    At ths point I say keep Cable. He has the guys RALLYING HARD. No denying that. Lets give him -16 full games- with a REAL qb (sorry today was a fluke JR is not the answer)

    and one more thing…FRIGGIN KEEP BUSH IN THE STARTING LINE UP FOR PETE’S SAKE!!

  72. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    up locomotive, there’s no excuse for his response on the sideline after this win, when you compare it to his response after the pittsburgh win. I don’t care how happy he’s ACTING now. Reactions tell a different story. Just watch the end of the Steeler game if yo have it on tape. Watch Cable leaping around the field. It’s his reaction I’m talking about. Reactions tell you everything about people. Cable’s reaction to this win was discomfort. He knows he has to start Russell now. Imagine he starts Frye next week and loses, after winning with Russell the previous week. Al will can his ass so fast and he knows it. He’s upset right now.

  73. jhill Says:

    Bruce will start if healthy, Frye is the backup, and Russell is #1!

    Perfect!

    Make the kid keep working!

  74. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    4evaRaider Says:
    December 20th, 2009 at 4:53 pm
    Bush got Extremely lucky his fumble in the 2nd quarter bounced DIRECTLY to Henderson
    ======================================================
    Fumbles happen 4eva. Do you bench Peterson after a fumble? No, you keep going to him because he can make big plays.

    Like Bush did today. How many big runs did he have today? 7 yards a carry 4eva….7 freekn yards a carry

    THAT’S CALLED PRODUCTION!

  75. Nnamdi21 Says:

    GForce21 Says:
    December 20th, 2009 at 4:54 pm
    Routt leaving as a FA is not an issue, he is in trail position a ton

    ======================

    Makes one in 4 plays and the former track star with a 4.26 nearly got out run on that stupid slant.

    Bye bye good riddance Routt. Oakland moves Mike Mitchell to Corner and drafts Taylor Mays…*sigh*

  76. ENGLANDRAIDER Says:

    S&B:

    It’s impossible to set ourselves up for a disappointment in April as long we still can remember the last draft.

  77. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    EnglandRaider, you didn’t notice any difference between Cable’s reaction on the sideline to this win vs. his reaction on the sideline after the win against Pittsburgh? What, is he used to winning, now? He got slaughtered by Washington last week.

  78. art shells clipboard Says:

    504, he’s right here marking down the last false start by Cornell Green.

  79. UP LOCOMOTIVE ENGINEER Says:

    http://www.csnbayarea.com/pages/live

  80. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Cable’s emotion after the Steeler win: Joy. Evident in his behavior.

    Cable’s emotion after this win: Discomfort. Evident in his behavior.

  81. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    7 yards a carry!

    Another 100 yard game.

    What does Bush need to do to EARN the starting job?

  82. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Deny it all you want to, guys. But this franchise is divided right down the middle. At some point, you guys will be face to face with it. Like in a few days, when Cable announces Russell as his starter.

  83. 4evaRaider Says:

    Yep fumbles happen allright and like I said on the fumble by Bush he got extremely lucky and he did thats ALL I said.Fargas could ran through those HUGE holes too.

  84. 4evaRaider Says:

    stop fumbling the ball

  85. jhill Says:

    The Real MaddenRaider Says:
    December 20th, 2009 at 4:59 pm

    Deny it all you want to, guys. But this franchise is divided right down the middle. At some point, you guys will be face to face with it. Like in a few days, when Cable announces Russell as his starter.

    ——————————————————-

    LMFAO!

    I tell you what … If Cable was just on the Radio talking about Frye will start if he is healthy, and then saying Grads will start if he’s healthy .. only to come out Tuesday and say Russell will be starting?

    Well let’s just say that that would absolutely be he funniest moment of the year!

  86. RaiderYYZ Says:

    “Deny it all you want to, guys. But this franchise is divided right down the middle. At some point, you guys will be face to face with it. Like in a few days, when Cable announces Russell as his starter.”

    Gradz has 2 bad knees and Charlie threw for 60 yards. WHY NOT START JaMarcus?

    RMR, what a self loathing football fan you are, just pathetic…

  87. MTraidernation Says:

    i guarantee if russell starts, the raiders lose this game. that last drive doesn’t change the fact he is a sitting duck. gradkowski or frye should start against the browns.

  88. art shells clipboard Says:

    RMR, you may be right, but Grads was given the starter job for the rest of the season according to Cable, lets see how this week plays out, it will be interesting.

  89. 4evaRaider Says:

    What MR you think #2 should start next week?

  90. ENGLANDRAIDER Says:

    Running Bush down the middle and McFadden was working out really well.
    To realize how bad Russell is just check out the smoothness of his handoffs to Bush and McFadden compared to #2.

  91. JT Says:

    To me theres no issue, Fry starts,

    Rusell is still the backup

    He hasnt proven he can do it for 4 quarters, and also, he has NO POCKET PRESENSE…

    No pocket presense, no leadership, not mobile enough….

    This game was won by the D, and Bush…

  92. Kirk Says:

    JAMARCUS RUSSELL NEVER STEPS UP IN THE POCKET!!!!

    NEVER!

    The ends beat the tackles and knock the ball out of his hand.

    EVERY SINGLE TIME!

    WTF?

  93. jhill Says:

    Russell actually moved around A LOT better than he did last week.

    Green is just a disaster at RT.

    Why is Henderson getting punked so bad the last few weeks?

    I just can’t believe how Dummervil was bull rushing him despite the ridiculous size difference. Running by him? I get that, but get bull rushed? WTF ????

  94. ENGLANDRAIDER Says:

    The biggest thing that I got out of this game was that with a reasonable quarterback in there next year we are really starting to look good as a team.

  95. ENGLANDRAIDER Says:

    Russell not only doesn’t step up in the pocket but the guy is so slow moving.

  96. art shells clipboard Says:

    RMR he might be mad that his OL has just killed two QBs in two games, how bout that!!!

  97. ENGLANDRAIDER Says:

    Enjoy a win Nation. Time for bed.

  98. tuckrulefool Says:

    hey madden raider i feel sorry for your bitter, sorry a55.

    are you EVERRRRRRRRRRRRRR HAPPY?

    seriously dude, go away…

  99. jhill Says:

    The ends beat the tackles and knock the ball out of his hand.

    EVERY SINGLE TIME!

    WTF?

    —————————————————–

    LMFAO!

    Well how did the offense score a game winning TD? and convert a long 4th down to keep the game going? How about the pass to Murphy that drew the PI on 3rd and twenty something?

    I know, I know … It was luck.

  100. gogo0 Says:

    # The Real MaddenRaider Says:
    December 20th, 2009 at 4:49 pm

    up locootive and thec,

    I know there’s at least one Raider employee in here. As long as they see my post, that’s all I care about. Then again, I’m sure they’ve already noticed, as Al and his henchmen are always looking for that sort of stuff.

    there is the ego again. somehow your inane and repetitive rambling is valuable insight?

  101. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    4evaRaider Says:
    December 20th, 2009 at 5:00 pm
    Yep fumbles happen allright and like I said on the fumble by Bush he got extremely lucky and he did thats ALL I said.Fargas could ran through those HUGE holes too.
    ======================================================
    Ball carrier vision also helps so that you can see the holes…

    Today’s effort is what a running back is supposed to get that’s a difference maker.

    Sure as hell beats 60 yards and a lot of violence.

    If Bush doesn’t get 70% of the carries here on out….Cable should be dismissed…period.

    Fargas IS NOT A BETTER RUNNING BACK THAN BUSH!

  102. 504 Raider Says:

    art shells clipboard Says:
    December 20th, 2009 at 4:57 pm
    504, he’s right here marking down the last false start by Cornell Green.

    ————————————————————————————————————–

    LMFAO!

  103. 4evaRaider Says:

    How many touchdowns did Bush score today

  104. Dmac20 Says:

    We go with gradkowski, and hopefully jamarcus’s play gives him some sort of value so we can trade him in the offseason. I’d rather go with grads and frye as our qb’s for the future and get what we can for jamarcus.

  105. lefty12 Says:

    do you really believe Fargas playing over Bush is Cable’s decision?

  106. Kirk Says:

    Question of the day….

    Why doesn’t Michael Bush start?

    He should have been our starting running back since the beginning of last year.

  107. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    Save the sentimental favorites for little league.

    Michael Bush is a real deal no compromises running back….the type of back that REAL offenses have.

    Stop the 3-back rotation and get Bush 60 to 70% of the carries and just ride with it.

    Fargas should come in to spell with a carry here or there.

    Sad, if not for injury, we would have seen a lot of inspired 3 yard runs culminating in another 60 yard effort

  108. 4evaRaider Says:

    Bush couldnt get in from the 2 foot line.Thats production there!!!

    I dont care if Bush ran for 1000 yards,its all between the 20’s and dont mean sh!t.And he still couldnt get in from the 2 yard line.What kind of RB cant get in from the 2 foot line.Bush couldnt csore a td if there was no one in front of him.lol

    Its soooo funny that you been screaming that Fargas cant score and get only 60 yards.Well guess what Bush ran for 133 or whatever and he couldnt SCORE EITHER

    BUT THATS PRODUCTION

  109. 504 Raider Says:

    I think Bush has conditioning issues. He slowed down the last two drives.

  110. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    4eva,

    You can’t win without production. 60 yard efforts don’t lead to victories…in case you haven’t noticed. There are a lot of hard workers that just can’t cut it on the field. No one says sport is fair.

    You think we win this game if Fargas only gets 60 yards?

    Oh, and Bush had another reception for 10 more yards or so.

    1 Touchdown in a game where the team scores a total of 20 is quite a big deal.

  111. lefty12 Says:

    you don’t know what we would have seen.are you clairvoyant or what?how about enjoying the win.

  112. tuckrulefool Says:

    This team is very different than past years.

    Keep Cable.

    I seriously think with a competent QB (grads my vote right now) and a reasonable backup (losman?) this team WILL compete even ‘as is’ otherwise.

    Now if we can upgrade both lines and MLB (Real run stuffer) we could be something like 8-6 this time next yr.

    No im not on craq. the team DOES NOT give up.

    Keep cable, sign grads and upgrade our lines.

    And, while Im at it, Al get out of the way.

  113. 16yearsold16yearfan Says:

    everybody who keeps talking about free agency need to pay attention to the nfl most of our players will be rfa and can be tendered at low costs and there wont be many other fa’s out there because most of the good ones either already signed a contract or they are going to be rfa

  114. 4evaRaider Says:

    yards mean nothing.Touch Downs do….in case you havent noticed

  115. StopThis Says:

    I just knew the Raiders would win this one. We always beat Denver! They even made Jamarcus look good. At least Jamarcus can take a licking and keep on ticking.

    Our defense won this game.

  116. RaiderLen Says:

    What up Nation.

    Bush showed today why He should be the starting HB.

    JaMarcus is a fill in QB until otherwise proven different.

    The O line is PATHETIC.

    If the O line is turned from a weakness to a strenght, Bruce or whomever will have half a chance to win.

    Happy to see the Raiders win on the road in Denver.

  117. Florida Pete Says:

    SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
    December 20th, 2009 at 4:59 pm
    7 yards a carry!

    Another 100 yard game.

    What does Bush need to do to EARN the starting job?

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    my understanding of the situation is that in order to be the man… you must beat the man…

    so apparently… M Bush will need to kick Fargas’s ass…

  118. Florida Pete Says:

    4evaRaider Says:
    December 20th, 2009 at 5:15 pm
    Bush couldnt get in from the 2 foot line.Thats production there!!!

    I dont care if Bush ran for 1000 yards,its all between the 20’s and dont mean sh!t.And he still couldnt get in from the 2 yard line.What kind of RB cant get in from the 2 foot line.Bush couldnt csore a td if there was no one in front of him.lol

    Its soooo funny that you been screaming that Fargas cant score and get only 60 yards.Well guess what Bush ran for 133 or whatever and he couldnt SCORE EITHER

    BUT THATS PRODUCTION

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    4eva… put the freaking beer down and pay attention…

    BUSH SCORED A TOUCHDOWN TODAY…

  119. 4evaRaider Says:

    I just meant on the goal line stand

  120. DIRT-LOT FOOTBALL Says:

    THOUGHT THE RAIDER’S WERE DOOM’D AFTER MC FADDEN FUMBLE..WHEEW, GLAD I WAS WRONG..

  121. raider4life22 Says:

    I just have a question for the jamarcus russell bashers in here. Ive read many of times where poeple state that jamarcus doesnt care he has his money he doesnt care at all. My question is if he doesnt care why does he get hurt miss a couple plays then go back in? If he truly didnt care wouldnt it just be easier to say let losman finish the game im hurt, or in the first game when he went out and bruce came in then he came back into the game.Jamarcus may be a lot of things but to say he doesnt care i think is a lil unfounded.

  122. wishbone Says:

    Ok DaMonk got it done. However I still believe he is never gonna be a good NFL QB. Bruce is the future & Frye is a good backup. When will the coaching staff realize that Bush is a top 10 RB in the league if given the chance. Fill in some holes on the Oline and make Bush the main guy with DMac filling in as both RB/WR. Still need to get a beast at MLB.

  123. spellcheck Says:

    Just ignore Madden Raider…he either is, or in cahoots with the site moderator and will get you banned.

  124. spellcheck Says:

    Frye has a better arm than Gradkowski and IMO moved the chains just as well. Frye’s arm strength can stretch the field more.

  125. i dress in black Says:

    # spellcheck Says:
    December 20th, 2009 at 6:09 pm

    Frye has a better arm than Gradkowski and IMO moved the chains just as well. Frye’s arm strength can stretch the field more.
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    I would disagree about arm strength. I saw 3 balls that should have been picked which were under-thrown today. I think Grad has the same issue. Another way to think about it is these guys wouldn’t have been available for the Raiders to grab off the scrape heap if they had better arms.

  126. raiderfan801 Says:

    4evaRaider:
    you are a moron…there is NO running back that scored EVERY time they were withing 2 or even 1 yard…Not Barry Sanders, Not Marcus Allen or Bo Jackson, Not Emmitt Smith or Walter Payton…Again noone ever scored every time…so give Bush credit…He played GREAT…And RealMaddenRaider…I think the real reason that Cable looked PISSED was bcuz the Oline sacrificed both our best QB’s and got us in a position to have to play Russell!! As a coach, I’d be pretty pissed off if I were also coaching the Oline personally, and they allowed both starting QB’s to go down, getting us to our 3rd string option. As far as Russell, he didn’t play well today. He got lucky. He did lose the ball a couple of times, showed that he moves as slow as a statue…We NEED a QB with heart…JaRyan Russelleaf doesn’t have one. We should also get rid of Cable. For far too many games he has NOT put the best players on the field. Cable should have used Javon Walker more, but he kept starting a WR who can’t catch…DHB. He kept Russell in despite his HORRIBLE, HORRIBLE play. Also, what is up with calling about 98% of our running plays up the middle for 2-3 yard gains, which consistantly force us to go 3-and-out. Try running to the OUTSIDE!!! Many times after they run up the middle for 2 yards, on the replay, if you look to the far left or right of the field, THERE ARE NO DEFENDERS ANYWHERE NEAR. Why? Cuz all the defensive coordinators in the league knows that the far majority of our runs are up the middle. Also, he should have started Bush after McFadden went down, and stuck with it. Fargas is a physical runner who can get 2 yards a carry and tire out the defensive line. But if you want a 100 yard runner, or 1,000 yard runner, you need Bush. I am tired of Cable. We need a coach who will put the best players on the field, not the highest paid… In the offseason, we need to trade Fargas and McFadden, use the picks to bolster our O’line. With our natural picks, we need to bolster our D-line to stop the run!! Then we would be true contenders!!

  127. anduflas Says:

    Yo momma should start.

  128. TonyTwizz Says:

    Right Raiderfan, Cable is pissed cause fuggin JR came in and saved the day right when he had everyone convinced Russell was a POS and should be benched. Now here we go again…

  129. raiderfan801 Says:

    Tony Twizzler:
    Our Offensive line is responsible for Gradkowski getting injured last week. They are responsible for Frye getting injured this week. They almost allowed Russell to get his head knocked off…and the one play that JP Losman played, the oline collapsed yet again. I never said that Cable was mad that Russelleaf won the game. I said that he is angry that the offensive line has gotten us to the point of having to resort to the 3rd string option…if your gonna quote me, quote me right. I don’t think Russelleaf is a POS, but I don’t think he has the heart to put in the hours that Rich Gannon or Tom Brady, Roethlisberger, Montana, Young (just to name a few) have put in. He comes in overweight and is too slow in his release of the ball.

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