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Miller hopes to return vs. Browns

By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Monday, December 21st, 2009 at 1:14 pm in Oakland Raiders.

Tight end Zach Miller is awaiting results of tests designed to determine if he is sufficiently recovered from a concussion to play this week.

“I took it today, I don’t know, I haven’t got the results yet, hopefully it went good today,” Miller said Monday.

Miller said the test is taken on a computer, quizzing him on memory, identifying shapes, and compared against a baseline test taken before the season started. Based on how he feels, Miller likes his chances of playing this week.

“The way the symptoms have been kind of going away, I expect in the next few days here I should be feeling pretty good and get back out there at practice,” Miller said.

Miller said even if he had passed the test last week, he still couldn’t have played because he wasn’t free of symptoms.

He conceded his attitude toward his rehab is different than it would have been a few years ago if faced with the same issue while at Arizona State.

“I probably would have said what I needed to get on the field. I’ve done that before,” Miller said. “I ‘m trying to be smart. I expect to have a long career, so I want to make sure that I don’t do something to myself that’s stupid and affects me later.”

However, Miller said he hasn’t given any thought to shutting it down for the rest of the season to make sure there isn’t a third concussion this year.

“ I feel like once the symptoms are gone and all that, there’s no reason not to play and I want to get back on the field,” Miller said. “It sucks not playing.”

Miller had started and played in 45 consecutive games, leading the Raiders with 150 receptions, since being drafted in the second round in 2007.

“It’s frustrating because you want to be out there and you want to impact the game, so you just kind of sit and watch,” Miller said. “It was exciting the way we won, and getting to watch, and all that, but I was dying to be out there.”

Miller felt good for quarterback JaMarcus Russell, the quarterback who was part of his draft class and with whom he had developed a chemistry with on the field.

“It was huge, and I was so happy for him,” Miller said. “He did what needed to be done at the end of the game and that’s huge for a quarterback, to be able to win the game, down six, score the winning touchdown with only 30 seconds left, and the way he did it, some adversity, fighting through it, so it’s really a credit to him.”

More news and notes from a few players who trickled in for treatment or to work out on an extra day off:

– Tight end Tony Stewart, accompanied by his two young sons, hasn’t stopped smiling since kickoff Sunday.

“The whole game, from the beginning to the end, I was just standing there smiling,” Stewart said. “Guys would look at me and be like, ‘What are you smiling about? What’s so funny?’

“I’m like, ‘I’m just happy to be playing. God gave me a great opportunity. Unfortunately Zach went down with his injury, his concussions, and I hope he gets better soon, and I know he’s getting better, but it was really fun to be out there and contribute the way I did.”

Stewart caught three passes for 27 yards, including a 10-yard catch on fourth-and-10 from Russell on the game-winning drive. Primarily an extra tight end and special teams player, Stewart last caught more than three passes in a game on Oct. 5, 2003, when he caught five passes against Buffalo while on the Cincinnati Bengals.

With Charlie Frye out, Russell getting the wind knocked out of him and J.P. Losman in for a snap, Stewart began to wonder how it would all end.

“It reminded me also of the body bag game of the Redskins and Eagles back in the day when Brian Mitchell had to come in and play quarterback for the Redskins,” Stewart said. “The Eagles defense had put out three of the quarterbacks. We almost had to put Shane Lechler in there. He still thinks he’s a quarterback.”

– Wide receiver Darrius Heyward-Bey said his sprained foot is making progress but gave no indication when he might return.

“Same old, same old, day by day, week by week,” Heyward-Bey said. “Don’t want to rush anything but also want to get back out there, you know? Want to help out my teammates.”

More to come following coach Tom Cable’s weekly press conference . . .

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216 Responses to “Miller hopes to return vs. Browns”

  1. raideredoutL.A. Says:

    damn i thought it was nick miller.

  2. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Jerry, why was Tom Cable jumping around and hugging everyone on the sideline after the Pittsburgh win, yet just had a blank stare on his face and bee lined it to McDaniel and then the locker room after the Denver win?

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  4. raideredoutL.A. Says:

    cable is going to hear it from al now, see i told that russell kid is special.

  5. KoolKell Says:

    Shut it down Miller.

  6. raideredoutL.A. Says:

    dont rush it dhb, seriously.

  7. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Is that what Cable was upset about yesterday, RaideredoutL.A? You know, right when we won? He was mad about something. Which is odd. Usually a head coach is the happiest guy on the planet after a victory.

  8. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Of course, the head coach probably was happy. Al Davis, the real head coach, probably hopped out of his wheelchair and did the riverdance. Cable was visibly disturbed, though. Gotta love the cohesiveness in Oakland.

  9. raideredoutL.A. Says:

    marshall complained about a little laser, ryan from atl didn’t complain about the snowball that nearly nailed him before throwing the game winner

  10. KoolKell Says:

    RaideredoutL.A. Says:

    December 21st, 2009 at 1:21 pm
    dont rush it dhb, seriously.
    ———————
    lol, no, don’t rush it, baby.

  11. raideredoutL.A. Says:

    i really didn’t see him upset, he did put his arms up in victory after the last play but didn’t see much after.

  12. KoolKell Says:

    Nah, I saw it differently. It looks to me that the players really like Cable. They were hugging and slapping him a lot yesterday.

  13. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    RaideredoutL.A. and Kell, watch the end of the Steeler game and the end of yesterday’s game if you have them on tape. Cable is jumping around after the Steeler game. Happiest moment of his life. After the game yesterday, he’s not even smiling. Watch it. He just bee lines it to McDaniel, then to the locker room. Sure, the players are happy, but Cable is not nearly as happy as he was after the Steeler win. Why?

  14. Ryan Says:

    Good for Tony. He’s a class act and I hope he is on the team again next year. Tony is my six year old boy’s favorite player. He always asks how Tony did. My boy was jumping up and down on that 3rd and 10 reception at the end of the game. I hope Tony gets a game ball.

  15. RaiderD Says:

    The Real MaddenRaider Says:
    December 21st, 2009 at 12:57 pm
    Tomlin does it and he’s a dumb black coach who doesn’t know what he’s doing. Steelers won, btw.

    _____________________________________________

    We’re talking about ESPN here, the boston loving, yankee sucking, patriot humping TV station!

    Of course they’re gonna bash on Tomlin.

  16. raideredoutL.A. Says:

    my only guess would be that al will ride him over starting russell now

  17. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    RaiderdoutL.A., did he put his arms up? I didn’t see it. Even if he did, his reaction to the Steeler win and his reaction to this win were like night and day, and both were equally as big of victories. This one even bigger, because it goes further to solidify that the team is really improving. The Steelers win could have easily been considered a fluke.

  18. Coach_034 Says:

    Dunno what you saw Real MaddenRaider, he was happy arms a loft if not a little shocked….but come on Russell threw a TD winner, i was speechless for a bit & shocked for a bit….

  19. KoolKell Says:

    The Real MaddenRaider Says:
    December 21st, 2009 at 1:30 pm

    RaiderdoutL.A., did he put his arms up? I didn’t see it. Even if he did, his reaction to the Steeler win and his reaction to this win were like night and day, and both were equally as big of victories
    ———————–
    Could be any number of reasons. But I didn’t see it that way. I just saw happy and relief.

  20. Dakota Says:

    I was hoping McFadden or Bush would line up at QB over Russell…we would have won by 8 if they had!

  21. KoolKell Says:

    Coach_034 Says:
    December 21st, 2009 at 1:31 pm

    Dunno what you saw Real MaddenRaider, he was happy arms a loft if not a little shocked….but come on Russell threw a TD winner, i was speechless for a bit & shocked for a bit….
    ————————–
    Exactly.

  22. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Kell, coach 034, just give me this much. Was there any difference between his reaction to yesterday’s win and the win vs. pittsburgh, where he was jumping around like he’d won the lottery? Kell, you’re saying he was shocked yesterday. Any more shocked at the end of the Pittsburgh game, which was every bit as much of a miracle? Your guys’ deductive reasoning is not addressing my point. I’m talking about the difference between his reaction to this win and the Steeler win.

  23. KoolKell Says:

    If they would just protect Russell with a run oriented game plan, the way they do with the other QB’s……

  24. KoolKell Says:

    The Real MaddenRaider Says:
    December 21st, 2009 at 1:37 pm

    Kell, coach 034, just give me this much. Was there any difference between his reaction to yesterday’s win and the win vs. pittsburgh, where he was jumping around like he’d won the lottery? Kell
    ————————
    He’s a human being not a robot. Emotions were maybe different, happy for Grads in his hometown, Justfiying his switch….. etc. What’s your point?

  25. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    To use your words, Coach 034, Cable was “happy arms a loft” after yesterday’s win. Now describe Cable’s reaction to the Steeler win a couple of weeks ago.

  26. Florida Pete Says:

    Wide receiver Darrius Heyward-Bey said his sprained foot is making progress but gave no indication when he might return.

    “Same old, same old, day by day, week by week,” Heyward-Bey said. “Don’t want to rush anything but also want to get back out there, you know? Want to help out my teammates.”

    :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::

    if you really want to help your teammates… fall down the stairs…

  27. raideredoutL.A. Says:

    about to pack a bowl and watch the game again on shortcuts. one of the few perks i get from the sunday ticket superfan

  28. Coach_034 Says:

    The Steelers game was a wild shoot out and the emotion to win with Bruce was nothing that anyone could imagine (agreed the Steelers are not tops at the moment but we didn’t know that at the time)…So we have the next game where Russell comes in, plays like an overpaid waster with the ofensive line giving up….move to the Donkeys game, Russell comes in, 3 in out & a fumble, Cable knows thats the end of his coaching career…but gets a last bite of the cherry and the one guy he doesn’t want on the field threads a few nice passes and wins it….cue jaw hitting the floor – his jaw can join mine and i suspect his coaching job is safe if he wins the next two

  29. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Kell, Cable was only so excited in Pittsburgh because he was happy for Gradkowski winning in his hometown?

    My point is, btw, that a head coach should ALWAYS be happy after a win. After the Pittsburgh win, Cable was just ecstatic. After yesterday’s win, he looked stoic, although you guys describe it as being “relieved”. I find it disturbing that our head coach can’t get as excited about this win as he did the Steeler win, which was every bit as much shocking and miraculous as the Steeler win.

  30. raideralex99 Says:

    The Real MaddenRaider Says:
    December 21st, 2009 at 1:17 pm
    Jerry, why was Tom Cable jumping around and hugging everyone on the sideline after the Pittsburgh win, yet just had a blank stare on his face and bee lined it to McDaniel and then the locker room after the Denver win?
    _____________________________________________________________

    He knew the Broncos threw the game so now Al will keep JaMarcus for another two years.

  31. DKnight007 Says:

    RaiderD Says:
    December 21st, 2009 at 1:29 pm
    The Real MaddenRaider Says:
    December 21st, 2009 at 12:57 pm
    Tomlin does it and he’s a dumb black coach who doesn’t know what he’s doing. Steelers won, btw.

    _____________________________________________

    We’re talking about ESPN here, the boston loving, yankee sucking, patriot humping TV station!

    Of course they’re gonna bash on Tomlin.

    ^^^^^^^^
    Yep…one of the many reasons why BSPN is GARBAGE!

  32. KoolKell Says:

    Football games are a roller coaster ride of emotions for coaches, players, fans.

  33. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Coach, the Steeler game was a “wild shootout”? So, the game was more exciting than yesterdays, is that what you’re saying? That’s the reason? Yesterday’s game was boring? That’s the reason for Cable’s somber reaction? The team coming back late in the 4th quarter to take the lead and win, was boring compared to the Steeler game? A game against DENVER?

    Another glass of denial, coach?

  34. Dakota Says:

    raideralex99 Says:
    December 21st, 2009 at 1:44 pm

    He knew the Broncos threw the game so now Al will keep JaMarcus for another two years.

    ___________________________

    LMFAO!

  35. Silver-n-Smac Says:

    # The Real MaddenRaider Says:
    December 21st, 2009 at 1:17 pm

    Jerry, why was Tom Cable jumping around and hugging everyone on the sideline after the Pittsburgh win, yet just had a blank stare on his face and bee lined it to McDaniel and then the locker room after the Denver win?

    *********************************************

    What an ignorant pile of crap you are dude.

    What kind of a stupid question is this?

    And what relevance does it have to ANYTHING???

    You are a freakin’ miserable pile of crap Madden.

  36. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Kell, I understand football games are roller coaster rides. But yesterday’s game was every bit as much of a roller coast ride as the Steeler game. Yet, Cable’s reaction to the win against the Steelers was far more jovial than his reaction to yesterday’s win. Never mind far more, they were like night and day. Complete different reaction.

    Need another glass of denial, Kell?

  37. raideralex99 Says:

    KoolKell Says:
    December 21st, 2009 at 1:38 pm
    If they would just protect Russell with a run oriented game plan, the way they do with the other QB’s……

    ____________________________________________________________________

    Are you kidding me??? If JaMarcus would have started the game … the Raiders would have NO running game.
    Let me guess … you think JaMarcus is going to the HOF after that performance … lol.

  38. Florida Pete Says:

    c’mon real maddentraider…

    quit trying to lead us to a conclusion…

    just tell us what you think…

    that way we can all get on with the business of telling you you’re full of schitt…

  39. raideredoutL.A. Says:

    and u wonder why espn dosen’t report on the worst organization in pro sports, new york knicks.

  40. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Kell, at first you denied that Cable’s reaction was different, and now you’re explaining it by saying that different games had different emotions, whatever. You’re pulling an Oakglenn.

  41. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    Florida Pete Says:
    December 21st, 2009 at 1:42 pm
    Wide receiver Darrius Heyward-Bey said his sprained foot is making progress but gave no indication when he might return.

    “Same old, same old, day by day, week by week,” Heyward-Bey said. “Don’t want to rush anything but also want to get back out there, you know? Want to help out my teammates.”

    :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::

    if you really want to help your teammates… fall down the stairs…

    ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::

    LMAO. And take DMAC down with you.

  42. KoolKell Says:

    The Real MaddenRaider Says:
    December 21st, 2009 at 1:48 pm

    Kell, at first you denied that Cable’s reaction was different, and now you’re explaining it by saying that different games had different emotions, whatever. You’re pulling an Oakglenn.
    —————————
    Denial of what? that’s what I don’t get.

  43. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    MR,

    Cable didn’t get giddy because Al has already told him he will be back next year.

  44. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Pete, I don’t have a conclusion. That’s why I’m asking if anyone knows. At first, everyone here denied that Cable’s reaction to this win was different than that of the pittsburgh win, now they’re explaining the difference in the reactions, saying the pittsburgh game had more emotion to it, was more of a shootout, etc. So, see? People here are already changing their position. Look, I’m just asking why Cable’s reactions to each win were so different. The reasons I’m getting thus far? Gradkowskis’ from Pittsburgh so Cable was happy for him? The steeler game was more exciting (what? more than a division game against denver?!?)? I’m just not buying.

  45. Charlie Says:

    MR

    I am sure you know about the past number ones and twos on the line such as Upshaw, A Smith, Wisnieski via trade, D Russell, Mcglockton etc. Just a FEW examples of how we have built teams in the past.

    This year the following are examples of who we can get:

    Oline; Oklahoma-Williams OK State-Okung Texas-Ulatoski WV-Capers and Rutgers Junior- Davis

    Dline; Nebraska-Suh Oklahoma- Gewrald McCoy Syracuse- Arthur Jones

    We have done it many times in the past with only two real line “BUSTS”. John Clay at OT and Bob Buchowski at DT due to a back injury.

    Lombardi got us off track. Cable is helping us get back to basics.

    Seymour was just the start of it.

  46. KoolKell Says:

    The Charge:

    He reacted differently after one win than another????????????

    So what?

  47. DKnight007 Says:

    Well….if Cable can pull off the impossible this weekend and beat the lousy Browns and win two in a row for once…..then I’m pretty sure the dumb old man Al will keep Cable for another season.

    Lets see if Cable can game plan get the players to actually run the football AND defend the run again as well as he did against the Ponies.

    Thats the million dollar question.

    The trend says be prepared for another home game letdown.

  48. Coach_034 Says:

    Real MaddenRaider, i understand what your saying but what do you want? If Cable starts jumping round like a looney cause we whip Cleveland that would worry me alot that it meant that much to beat a down and out club.

    We had a good gameplan and he looked mentally exhausted – Having Russell on my team would give me a few sleepless nights also.

    As for another cup of denial, na i can see exactly what the problems with this team is and Cable wouldn’t be at the top of the list.

  49. KoolKell Says:

    The Charge:

    He reacted differently after one win than another????????????

    So what?

    What does that piece of insight tell you?

  50. 4evaRaider Says:

    Been doing some reading on concussions and it seems “most” neurologists say the they usually take 2 months to heal properly.Longer for more severe ones

  51. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Bo, thank you.

    See? All it took was for somebody to be honest, accept the truth, then give an honest answer. Bo, thank you for your reply. And, that does make sense. Cable’s job was still on the line when we played Pittsburgh, now he knows he has a job next year, so there wasn’t as much as stake. And to think, all of these other guys in here went through all of this effort trying to deny that Cable had a different reaction. And those who did try to explain his reaction just fell flat. But your reason makes sense. I still find it troubling that the reactions were so different. I mean, I was hoping Cable was always as fired up as he was vs. Pittsburgh. Am I to understand he’s only going to be that excited when his job is on the line? Why can’t he be that intensed all of the time? Gruden was.

  52. DKnight007 Says:

    Charlie Says:
    December 21st, 2009 at 1:51 pm
    MR

    I am sure you know about the past number ones and twos on the line such as Upshaw, A Smith, Wisnieski via trade, D Russell, Mcglockton etc. Just a FEW examples of how we have built teams in the past.

    This year the following are examples of who we can get:

    Oline; Oklahoma-Williams OK State-Okung Texas-Ulatoski WV-Capers and Rutgers Junior- Davis

    Dline; Nebraska-Suh Oklahoma- Gewrald McCoy Syracuse- Arthur Jones

    We have done it many times in the past with only two real line “BUSTS”. John Clay at OT and Bob Buchowski at DT due to a back injury.

    Lombardi got us off track. Cable is helping us get back to basics.

    Seymour was just the start of it.

    ^^^^^^^^^
    Oh…now it’s Lombardi who got the Raiders off track?

    Nah….it’s Al Davis who has ruined the franchise….nobody else.

  53. raideredoutL.A. Says:

    zach should shut it down for his sake, but what about the other miller who took up a roster spot the whole yr. without even getting dressed for 1 game. ridiculous.

  54. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Kell, I just find it troubling, considering all of the politics that go on with the Raiders, considering the rumors that Cable doesn’t like Russell, that Cable’s reaction to a victory led by Russell wasn’t nearly as jovial as his reaction to a victory led by Gradkowski. But Bo gave a good answer. Said that Cable’s job was still on the line when we played Pittsburgh. That’s all I asked for. Was an honest answer. Not the steaming pile of shyt being blown back at me where people were feebly trying to deny there was a difference (when it’s obvious, and on tape), and giving ridiculous explanations, like that the Steeler game was more exciting than yesterdays’ game (absurd).

  55. Coach_034 Says:

    So your saying beore the Steelers game, Al said win and you can keep your job even i you get hammered in the rest……come on

    He’s need to beat Cleveland and be close in the last game – win against Baitmore seals it….

  56. raideredoutL.A. Says:

    gametime

  57. KoolKell Says:

    I thought I was cynical. ;-)

    Alrighty then.

  58. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Coach_034 Says:
    December 21st, 2009 at 1:53 pm

    Real MaddenRaider, i understand what your saying but what do you want? If Cable starts jumping round like a looney cause we whip Cleveland that would worry me alot that it meant that much to beat a down and out club.

    ……………….

    He jumped around like a looney when we beat Pittsburgh. And Denver is better than Pittsburgh.

  59. spellcheck Says:

    Maybe Randy Hanson sucker punched him at the end of the game and he was still pissed.

  60. raideredoutL.A. Says:

    damn the kelly pantsing is on pti too

  61. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Kell, I pointed out the obvious, and asked why. That’s all I did. If you call that cynical, then maybe you’re just a little bit dim for actually trying to deny the obvious at first?

  62. DKnight007 Says:

    If Cable can pull off the impossible this weekend and beat the lousy Browns and win two in a row for once…..then I’m pretty sure the dumb old man Al will keep Cable for another season.

    Lets see if Cable can game plan get the players to actually run the football AND defend the run again as well as he did against the Ponies.

    Thats the million dollar question.

    The trend says be prepared for another home game letdown.

  63. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Cable’s reaction to this win was far different than his reaction to the Steeler win. That, is a fact.

  64. raideredoutL.A. Says:

    we play at cle

  65. Coach_034 Says:

    Denver has lost 6 in the last 8 (including our game)!!!
    – both teams are not better than wild card spots.

    Both wins were good or us to build on, but come on pick on something else other than Cables reaction – it’s a non-event!!!

  66. spellcheck Says:

    Maybe Cable was afraid his pants would fall down too if he got too excited and jumped up and down and the thought of looking like Kelly shocked him.

  67. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    The Real MaddenRaider Says:
    December 21st, 2009 at 1:54 pm
    Bo, thank you.

    Why can’t he be that intensed all of the time? Gruden was.

    :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::

    Cable shows plenty of enthusiasm. He motivates players through honesty and dedication, as Jerry’s recent blog post described.

    Contrast that to the recriminatoins surrounding your boy Chuckie when he got canned in Tampa. No thanks. I do not want another coach who just looks at the Raider job as a resume booster.

  68. KoolKell Says:

    The Real MaddenRaider Says:
    December 21st, 2009 at 2:02 pm

    Kell, I pointed out the obvious, and asked why. That’s all I did. If you call that cynical, then maybe you’re just a little bit dim for actually trying to deny the obvious at first?
    ————————
    MaddenRaider, if you want to pick a fight with me for something as silly as a sideline reaction, and your purely subjective reading of said reaction……..wtf’s wrong with you man.

    You calling ME a denier. Fk off.

  69. Coach_034 Says:

    Guess on your report card for the game, Cable gets a F for coaching cause of his reaction….

  70. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    coach, I never even said it was an “event”. Just pointed out that it happened, and asked why.

    Thank you, Bo, for having the intellectual courage to step up and answer. Can’t say the same for the rest of you, who are still flip flopping between denying that it happened and giving lofty explanations for it. See y’all later.

  71. raideredoutL.A. Says:

    mcdaniels playcalling was pretty shaky yesterday, a screen to an offensive lineman?

  72. DKnight007 Says:

    The Real MaddenRaider Says:
    December 21st, 2009 at 2:04 pm
    Cable’s reaction to this win was far different than his reaction to the Steeler win. That, is a fact.

    ^^^^^^^^^
    Who cares….it means nothing.

    The Pitt win was less expected.

  73. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Cable gets an A for yesterday’s game, coach. Job well done. I just asked why his reaction to this win was so much different than his reaction to the win against the Steelers. That’s all. Try not to get too excited. You’re probably right, it’s a “non event”. Anyhow, I’m out of here. Later.

  74. spellcheck Says:

    Maybe he saw FoolKells old lady and she does look like Tommy Kelly (only bigger).

  75. Coach_034 Says:

    Real MaddenRaider, Again i’m agreeing i you watched the two game reactions one is more excited than th other – i repeat i agree….however he didn’t look disappointed and why the hell on post 72 are we discussing how Cable look ater a victory…..jeez

  76. DKnight007 Says:

    raideredoutL.A. Says:
    December 21st, 2009 at 2:04 pm
    we play at cle

    ^^^^^^^^^
    My bad….I thought it was a home game.

    Doesn’t matter…..Cable still needs to gameplan and get the team to win the game.

    RB Jerome Harrison is coming….

  77. 4evaRaider Says:

    MR is right about the reaction of Cable.

    In Pittsburgh,it was a feel good story for Gradkowski and his family,what dreams are made of when you was a kid! And we beat the defending S/B Champs in their back-yard!Just a GREAT FEELING WIN!

    Denver….now thats a whole different story.Division Rival,Shanahan hated donkeys.That game to me was WAAAAAAAAAAY more emotional,for me anyway.I think the simple answer is Cable was DRAINED emotionally after this one.GAWD WHAT A FUGGIN GAME!!!! imo

  78. Richochet Says:

    The Real MaddenRaider Says:
    December 21st, 2009 at 1:51 pm

    Pete, I don’t have a conclusion.
    =======================
    Blathering idiots rarely do.
    You just can’t figure out anything, can you?

    You love russell. You hate russell.
    You bought his jersey. You didn’t buy his jersey.
    You admit you lie. You forgot that you admit you lie.
    You cross post with 7 handles and got caught. You can’t remember how many handles you had when you got caught.

    And now? You post who knows how many stupid, head up ass takes about how happy Cable was, or was not..and you HAVE NO POINT?

    Let me sum it up.
    You’re a freaking idiot.
    And one of the sorriest insecure attention whores you’ll find anywhere.

    See…to you? Everyone crapping on your sorryass is the attention you so crave.
    It’s like the idiot kid in the neighborhood..always hanging around saying stupid things..almost inviting to get kicked in the ass.
    Then he goes home and feels all warm and fuzzy that he got attention.
    Now? Now you’re going to pretend it doesn’t matter what anyone says, when we all know that somehow, in your juvenile world, in between playing video games, getting your ass kicked is the highlight of your day.

    Good for you, MoronRaider. :)

  79. DKnight007 Says:

    The other DT that I may be more high on than McCoy is Dan Williams from Tennesee in the late 1st early 2nd round.

    He is bigger and stronger than McCoy at 6′4, 327.

    But the old man will probably not want to deal with one of Kiffins players! hahaha

  80. Coach_034 Says:

    With Shanahan gone it’s taken a slight edge off beating them scum Donkeys…without him you want to thump them down kick em and spit on them…with Shanaham there you would want whizz on them also…

  81. DKnight007 Says:

    Jared Odrick from Penn St is a strong DT as well.

  82. 4evaRaider Says:

    =)

  83. KoolKell Says:

    If Cable wins 7 games….. he’s a lock. The players seem to like him.

  84. Coach_034 Says:

    I think 6 might do it but Cleveland is a must win for him to stay

  85. KoolKell Says:

    Langston Walker at LG. Power Play.

    Watch the 24yd Bush TD run. Walker collapsed the Right DL. Bush was untouched.

  86. Chris in NY Says:

    Tony Stewart: “We almost had to put Shane Lechler in there. He still thinks he’s a quarterback.”

    ——————————

    Pretty funny.

    BTW, great job by Stewart on that 4th and 10 pickup on the last drive. That was the play of the game. A good throw but not the easiest catch to make with a defender on your back and then the ability to get the first down yardage. Nice job.

  87. Raider 510 Says:

    The Real Madden Raider SHUT UP! damn you sound like a female. OMG DID YOU GUYS SEE CABLE HE WASN’T HAPPY AFTER THE WIN!?!?! What are you so worried about? Have you ever thought that Cable believes the Raiders are good enough to win TWO in a row…why get excited after one win?

  88. 4evaRaider Says:

    PLUS it would BREAK that godawfull double digit fuggin loss sh!t we hate so much They can do this and Cable can do this…….

    Thats what those goldamned bill-boards should be SCREAMING….BREAK THE CYCLE

  89. Chris in NY Says:

    Walker at G could be a great fit going forward. I often wonder why teams don’t take guys who struggle at OT and move them inside to G. Worked for Gallery. Worked for Leonard Davis of the Cowboys. Could work for Walker. Heck, I think it even could’ve worked for Kwame Harris who was considered a very good run blocker who struggles in pass blocking.

  90. 4evaRaider Says:

    We had 233 yds rushing and gave up 80

  91. KoolKell Says:

    4evaRaider Says:
    December 21st, 2009 at 2:30 pm

    We had 233 yds rushing and gave up 80
    ——————————
    Why?

    A. Bush
    B. Walker
    C. Game Plan

  92. 4evaRaider Says:

    Walker DID look like a road-grader out there lol

  93. mistic1 Says:

    Cable was tempering his enthusiasm in order to give the look of focus for two in a row. he is attempting to set a busisness like tone for his team. Unlike his over the top celebrating after other wins this year. This ploy may just keep the teams feet an the ground. I beleieve cable must win in cleveland to stay. I also think baltimore should also be a must win game, they are very beatable. a two game win improvement plus 2 division wins buys cable another year.

  94. 4evaRaider Says:

    Walker and I know,I know,Green should be our guards,imo.

  95. vegas raider Says:

    Kudo’s to Jamarcus on the 4th and 10 dart to Stewart.

    Oddly at the end of the game I had a sense of calm about watching Jamarcus, was even calling for him to come back after JP. If you can give Jamarcus credit for anything, at the end of games and facing 3rd, 4th and longs, he wings it down the field and gives it a go.

    The Murphy TD opening night, the Watkins pass the next week, as well as yesterday. I would start Charlie to stabilize the game a little, than bring in Russell. Seriously.

  96. 4evaRaider Says:

    If we are to beat the Ravens,we must have an answer for Ray Rice.I had him in FF and his stats way high

  97. UP LOCOMOTIVE ENGINEER Says:

    “Same old, same old, day by day, week by week,” Heyward-Bey said. “Don’t want to rush anything but also want to get back out there, you know? Want to help out my teammates

    ======================

    your helping them out just fine where your at dhb

  98. KoolKell Says:

    Charlie Frye looks to weak to play QB to me. He gets nothing on the ball while on the move……but I won’t argue.

  99. 90210 Says:

    JaFATA$$ looked like the MICHELIN MAN yesterday! It must of been the white jersey and socks.

  100. r8eray Says:

    I like that comment: Coach had mixed emotions about the win because now he is stuck with JaMarcus for the next two years!!

  101. raideredoutL.A. Says:

    thanks to the defender who tackled stewart into a 1st down

  102. DKnight007 Says:

    Another player the team should target is OLB/DE Brandon Graham from Michigan in Round 2.

    He can be a strong and quick RDE or a playmaking elephant style hybdrid mix OLB, like what Trevor Scott.

  103. mistic1 Says:

    Walker’s problem is the buffet table. His talent has never been questioned, the raiders let him go because of his weight. The bills cut him for the same reason.

  104. Dakota Says:

    90210 Says:
    December 21st, 2009 at 2:43 pm
    JaFATA$$ looked like the MICHELIN MAN yesterday! It must of been the white jersey and socks.
    _________________________

    True, when he took that hit in the gut I thought lard might start seeping out of his jersey.

  105. 4evaRaider Says:

    Less for Jmac

  106. UP LOCOMOTIVE ENGINEER Says:

    they showed jafatboy yeaterday a couple of times on the sidelines and the first time he had a red gatorade the second time it was an orange gatorade that’s like eating candy if your not working out or playing on the sidelines in oakland against the bengals and he was eating sunflowere seed’s he’s just a big chubby imature kid.

  107. mistic1 Says:

    Good take vegas,
    Russel has has a knack.
    ………………………………………………
    DKnight007 Says:
    December 21st, 2009 at 2:44 pm
    Another player the team should target is OLB/DE Brandon Graham from Michigan in Round 2.

    He can be a strong and quick RDE or a playmaking elephant style hybdrid mix OLB, like what Trevor Scott.
    …………………………………………….

    No way we need a d tackle our ends and linebackers are very good, especially with the trevor scott move.

  108. Dakota Says:

    Yesterday the Broncos lost to the Raiders and the Nuggets lost to the Grizzlies.

    LMFAO man, I’ll be there are some pissed off people in Denver today!

  109. DKnight007 Says:

    KoolKell Says:
    December 21st, 2009 at 2:23 pm
    Langston Walker at LG. Power Play.

    Watch the 24yd Bush TD run. Walker collapsed the Right DL. Bush was untouched.

    ^^^^^^^^^^
    L Walker should be the starting RG next year IMO. Thats if Gallery comes back…which I think he will. Gallery is a tough guy and a hard worker.

    Carlise may be on his last legs anyway….not sure how his contract is though.

  110. vegas raider Says:

    KoolKell Says:
    December 21st, 2009 at 2:43 pm
    Charlie Frye looks to weak to play QB to me. He gets nothing on the ball while on the move……but I won’t argue.

    *******************************

    You know I am the biggest Bruce fan, but even I have been suprised by how much better he has looked than the other two QB’s. No comparision.

    And Bruce leading the team on the sidelines yesterday, helping Russell and Losman review pics and plays. The guy needs to be the QB and leader of this team. It HAS TO HAPPEN

  111. The Big Banana Says:

    “Same old, same old, day by day, week by week,” Heyward-Bey said. “Don’t want to rush anything but also want to get back out there, you know? Want to help out my teammates.”
    ====================================================
    With your sorry azz on the bench, you are helping more than you know, DHB.

  112. mistic1 Says:

    Carlisle and green must go, they were brought here to be back ups any way.

  113. KoolKell Says:

    I just wonder why despite putting up the best numbers the last 2 years, Bush is kept on the Bench?

    I also wonder why Davis insisted on going “Vertical” all year. When we all knew the Raiders should be a run first team coming out of camp.

  114. DKnight007 Says:

    mistic1 Says:
    December 21st, 2009 at 2:48 pm
    Good take vegas,
    Russel has has a knack.
    ………………………………………………
    DKnight007 Says:
    December 21st, 2009 at 2:44 pm
    Another player the team should target is OLB/DE Brandon Graham from Michigan in Round 2.

    He can be a strong and quick RDE or a playmaking elephant style hybdrid mix OLB, like what Trevor Scott.
    …………………………………………….

    No way we need a d tackle our ends and linebackers are very good, especially with the trevor scott move.

    ^^^^^^^^
    This team also needs BEAST LB’s who make plays!

    I’m just saying which prospects they need to look at…besides the underachievers with 4.3 straight line speed.

  115. Dakota Says:

    Walker didn’t seem to like the idea of playing guard when they had to stick him in after the Gallery injury…he probably still thinks of himself as a big money Tackle.

  116. The Big Banana Says:

    # mistic1 Says:
    December 21st, 2009 at 2:45 pm

    Walker’s problem is the buffet table. His talent has never been questioned, the raiders let him go because of his weight. The bills cut him for the same reason.
    ===================================================
    And now he has a buffet buddy.

  117. Raider 510 Says:

    KoolKell Says:
    December 21st, 2009 at 2:43 pm
    Charlie Frye looks to weak to play QB to me. He gets nothing on the ball while on the move……but I won’t argue.

    —————————————————–

    You must have missed the play on the run where frye hit murphy on a come back…looked like a cannon to me

  118. KoolKell Says:

    And Bruce leading the team on the sidelines yesterday, helping Russell and Losman review pics and plays. The guy needs to be the QB and leader of this team. It HAS TO HAPPEN
    ————————-
    I actually saw Cable soliciting Bruce’s opinion on the sideline yesterday.

  119. mistic1 Says:

    Gradowski could never be more than a band aid quick fix while we develop no.2. He is a guy that is limited, that may win a few games but he cant take you all the way.

  120. DKnight007 Says:

    mistic1 Says:
    December 21st, 2009 at 2:50 pm
    Carlisle and green must go, they were brought here to be back ups any way.

    ^^^^^^^^^
    Carlise can backup L Walker if need be also…..

  121. Dakota Says:

    Garbagekowski is ripped…too bad he can’t drag Russell The Blob with him to the gym.

  122. KoolKell Says:

    Raider 510 Says:
    December 21st, 2009 at 2:52 pm

    You must have missed the play on the run where frye hit murphy on a come back…looked like a cannon to me
    ————————–
    That’s the play I’m talking about. Murphy made a helluva play coming back to get that ball, because it definitely wasn’t going to get there.

  123. 4evaRaider Says:

    Vegas he already is the leader

  124. mistic1 Says:

    Fry has an arm, he just isnt that good. Grads and fry are scrappers, but they dont have the talent. Russel, like it or not has the most talent of the bunch by far, he needs to follow grads and learn how to prepare.

  125. RaiderRockstar Says:

    We almost had to put Shane Lechler in there. He still thinks he’s a quarterback.

    ***

    Danny White (Dallas), Tom Tupa (Phoenix), Ray Guy (Oakland), George Blanda (Oakland)

    why not? I’ll bet he’s better than the walrus.

  126. KoolKell Says:

    Bruce no Charlie appear rugged enough to play a season.

  127. Dakota Says:

    When did Russell hook up with Miley Cyrus?

    ttp://2.bp.blogspot.com/_KHXQnQbzKQg/SfbOBPTNlkI/AAAAAAAAApM/j6CCx0GjqsU/s400/miley_cyrus_and_fat_guy-12543.bmp

  128. KoolKell Says:

    correction:

    Bruce nor Charlie appear rugged enough to play a season.

  129. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    vegas raider Says:
    December 21st, 2009 at 2:50 pm
    KoolKell Says:
    December 21st, 2009 at 2:43 pm
    Charlie Frye looks to weak to play QB to me. He gets nothing on the ball while on the move……but I won’t argue.

    *******************************

    You know I am the biggest Bruce fan, but even I have been suprised by how much better he has looked than the other two QB’s. No comparision.

    And Bruce leading the team on the sidelines yesterday, helping Russell and Losman review pics and plays. The guy needs to be the QB and leader of this team. It HAS TO HAPPEN
    =======================================================
    Gradkowski has to win the job in camp. I’ve watched enough football to know that two or three games don’t matter much. Hell, even JaMarcus played well in the last few games of the year last year.

    The biggest mistake the Raiders can make is not bringing in a lot of competition to camp next year.

  130. 4evaRaider Says:

    I hated Danny White….Great footballer

  131. Charlie Says:

    You guys are worrying about nothing.

    Cable and staff stay. They have done a great job with a team that Mr Davis even has said is “a couple of years away”.

    JR will absolutely be forced to take a cut in pay or he will be cut.
    His performance does not justify his contract and all of the guaranteed money has been paid.

    The Raiders in the past 18 months have cleaned up all of the poor value players except for JR, Warren and Kelly.
    Kelly will be in the same spot as JR and Warren will retire or get cut.

    No big name free agents. Build through the draft.

    No drama. No mystery.

  132. Dakota Says:

    Dakota Says:
    December 21st, 2009 at 2:58 pm
    When did Russell hook up with Miley Cyrus?

    http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_KHXQnQbzKQg/SfbOBPTNlkI/AAAAAAAAApM/j6CCx0GjqsU/s400/miley_cyrus_and_fat_guy-12543.bmp

  133. RaiderRockstar Says:

    S&B: if Gruden returns we’ll have plenty of QB’s

  134. RaiderRockstar Says:

    5pm in Podunk. later gents!

  135. mistic1 Says:

    Keep grads, russel looks like he learning from him the intangibles, and he will make a good back up that can win a few games. He is a younger poor mans jeff garcia. Russel wont be an understudy for long. With a full off season, and second year in the system with a healthy offensive unit, and polished experienced receivers, Russell will be much better. ( if he continues to work)

  136. Florida Pete Says:

    spellcheck Says:
    December 21st, 2009 at 2:05 pm

    Maybe Cable was afraid his pants would fall down too if he got too excited and jumped up and down and the thought of looking like Kelly shocked him.

    :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::

    hmmm… you might be on to something…

    MR keeps alluding to the look on cables’s face after the win…

    perhaps… perhaps he may have been disturbed by what he saw when Kelly pants came down…

    hmmmm….

  137. Plunketthead Says:

    I think Cable & Company are getting use to kicking the crap out of dungver at that skinking pit they call mile high.

  138. Dakota Says:

    mistic1 Says:
    December 21st, 2009 at 3:04 pm
    Keep grads, russel looks like he learning from him the intangibles, and he will make a good back up that can win a few games. He is a younger poor mans jeff garcia. Russel wont be an understudy for long. With a full off season, and second year in the system with a healthy offensive unit, and polished experienced receivers, Russell will be much better. ( if he continues to work)
    _______________________________

    You must mean if he STARTS to work?????

  139. KoolKell Says:

    Tommy Kelly on all fours with only his jock strap. Yikes!

  140. Plunketthead Says:

    POST OF THE MONTH

    Richochet Says:
    December 21st, 2009 at 2:13 pm
    The Real MaddenRaider Says:
    December 21st, 2009 at 1:51 pm

    Pete, I don’t have a conclusion.
    =======================
    Blathering idiots rarely do.
    You just can’t figure out anything, can you?

    You love russell. You hate russell.
    You bought his jersey. You didn’t buy his jersey.
    You admit you lie. You forgot that you admit you lie.
    You cross post with 7 handles and got caught. You can’t remember how many handles you had when you got caught.

    And now? You post who knows how many stupid, head up ass takes about how happy Cable was, or was not..and you HAVE NO POINT?

    Let me sum it up.
    You’re a freaking idiot.
    And one of the sorriest insecure attention whores you’ll find anywhere.

    See…to you? Everyone crapping on your sorryass is the attention you so crave.
    It’s like the idiot kid in the neighborhood..always hanging around saying stupid things..almost inviting to get kicked in the ass.
    Then he goes home and feels all warm and fuzzy that he got attention.
    Now? Now you’re going to pretend it doesn’t matter what anyone says, when we all know that somehow, in your juvenile world, in between playing video games, getting your ass kicked is the highlight of your day.

    Good for you, MoronRaider.

  141. mistic1 Says:

    They owe russell 3 mil guaranteed next year, he will not have to restructure. Will wait one more year, and if he still does not perform davis will cut bait in 2011, when he does not have to pay. Remember Tommy kelley is grossly over paid for the last to years davis did not restructure him. Why would he do it to his prized qb. Do you remember, Jay schroeder, and harvey williams, randy moss, guys that did not perform and davis kept them until it made financial sense to move them.

  142. KoolKell Says:

    3 wins in a row for the first time since…………waaaaay back.

    Then Maybe, Davis gets a reprieve.

  143. KoolKell Says:

    3 wins in a row for the first time since…………waaaaay back.

    Then Maybe, Davis gets a reprieve.

    Davis knows he’s absolutely got to win.

    Did you see Bush, and the blitzing yesterday? lol.

  144. Dakota Says:

    KoolKell Says:
    December 21st, 2009 at 3:10 pm
    3 wins in a row for the first time since…………waaaaay back.

    Then Maybe, Davis gets a reprieve.
    ________________________________
    3 wins in a row?

    haaaaahahahaha yeah right. We win our next two games and I will shine Davis’ shoes and hire a hooker Cable slap around for fun!

  145. KoolKell Says:

    3 wins in a row for the first time since…………waaaaay back.

    Then Maybe, Davis gets a reprieve.

    Davis knows he’s absolutely got to win. Any damned way he can.

    Did you see Bush, and the blitzing yesterday? lol.

  146. Senior Beeecham Says:

    KrappyKell, that’s an interesting reaction to Tommy Kelly’s pant predicament from a man who routinely craps his own pajamas.

    I would think that of everyone on this blog, you of all people would be able to sympathize with his unfortunate plight. Think of how humiliated you would’ve felt in his position, especially when the pants-ing would’ve revealed a pair of soiled man diapers.

    So Krappy, why not go easy on poor Tommy Kelly. And get your old ass out back for your afternoon hose down!

  147. mistic1 Says:

    Dakota you dont get it, he is clearly working harder. Did you see him go through his reads in the clutch? did you see him adjust his game and step up in the pocket and even maneuver in the pocket to make some throws? Did you see him offer to pour micheal bush gatorade? The guy looks like some one that feel badly about how he has treated his team, and he wants to make amends. He wants to earn the respect of the guys he plays with. i think he noticed how the team responds to grads, and he trying to duplicate some this and add to his game. Lets give him some credit. Every player they spoke to after the game said he is doing what he is supposed to do. Lets hope he keeps it up.

  148. KoolKell Says:

    Beecham

    I thought you were dead.

  149. Plunketthead Says:

    Langston and JaBreakfastBuddy?

  150. Plunketthead Says:

    JaBuffetbuddy

  151. Dakota Says:

    mistic1

    Well…I did see him give MB some Gatorade…maybe we should give the guy an extension!

  152. mistic1 Says:

    The blitzing is possible because of the scott move, you cant tell pre snap if he going to drop or rush. When he drops the other lbs, or safties can rush. This is the beauty of the man to man scheme that every body seems to hate. They give the same look on about 90% of the snaps except when they go zone. The offense isnt sure whos coming. The marshall plan was beautiful yesterday, its all about having the right guys on the field and in the right spot.

  153. KoolKell Says:

    Dakota Says:

    December 21st, 2009 at 3:20 pm
    mistic1

    Well…I did see him give MB some Gatorade…maybe we should give the guy an extension!
    ————————-
    Hopefully the benching and Gradkowski and the team response to Gradkowski woke him up.

  154. LA to TheBay Says:

    “I also wonder why Davis insisted on going “Vertical” all year. When we all knew the Raiders should be a run first team coming out of camp.”

    Exactly.

    The idea was to go vertical early and often. They knew they could run, so that was ignored in camp.

    They gave Russell the keys and he crashed the mthafcka.

    He wasn’t ready.

    They tried to go the Flacco route.

    Game manager in his first year starting and let er rip in year 2.

    Just didn’t happen.

    Of course, the Baltimore Oline is better but that’s not an excuse. Jamarcus wasn’t prepared physically or mentally.

  155. mistic1 Says:

    My point is he is trying to win his teammates respect. This is totally different from the guy that sits on the bench alone, and says its not my fault. These are the little things you must do, paying dues.

  156. Senior Beeecham Says:

    Ha ha, thanks Krappy my old pal! No, I decided to travel through Mexico for a few weeks to track down drug smugglers with my covert surf posse. Caught some sweet waves, macked on some tasty babes and did a solid for ol Uncle Sam.

    Freedom kicks ass!

    Anyway on a scale of 1 to 10, I missed you a 15. How about you?

  157. KoolKell Says:

    Senior Beeecham Says:
    December 21st, 2009 at 3:24 pm

    Ha ha, thanks Krappy my old pal! No, I decided to travel through Mexico for a few weeks to track down drug smugglers with my covert surf posse. Caught some sweet waves, macked on some tasty babes and did a solid for ol Uncle Sam.

    Freedom kicks ass!

    Anyway on a scale of 1 to 10, I missed you a 15. How about you?
    ————————-
    Oh, I thought you were dead. Now go fk yourself.

  158. LA to TheBay Says:

    The running attack needs to be duplicated in Cleveland specifically and the next 5 years in general.

    Thunder and lightning is what’s up.

    I’m telling you, McFadden will contribute. They blow open holes for him like they did yesterday, he’s too fast not to get yardage.

    Keep Pears in the jumbo set.

    Also, why hasn’t Jerry addressed our TE situation?

    If Zack can’t go, we have Tony Stewart and that’s it.

    Meyers got concussed as well.

  159. mistic1 Says:

    Koolkell,

    This is exactly what I think we are watching. The redskin game was a wake up call and a lesson for the young fella. Now he has to continue to build on this positive momentum. Listening to his teammates they realize that he is the most talented guy, they have been waiting for him to buck up. They were happy for him, this says alot. Other wise we would have heard the regular cliches “this was a team win” this a team sport” and so on. Even after the touch down you could see the guys celebrating with him and encouraging him on the sidleine. That was the best part of the whole thing. Maybe we are watching him grow up.

  160. raidertay Says:

    I use to go to school with Walker. A great guy, but he was known as the world’s biggest softy. I use to think you are WAY to big to get pushed around by everyone. He obviously has a different persona on teh field. He was opening some wide as lanes yest. Glad to see him back out there.

  161. raidertay Says:

    I wonder if Miller’s rush to get back on the field has anything to do with the TE play yest. Myers was doin a great job blocking and Tony made some HUGE catches.

  162. Dakota Says:

    I hope you guys are right that Russell is starting to get it.

    Only time will tell. If he comes into camp trimmed up a bit and ready to roll I will certainly be glad to see it….

    ….I just don’t think he has it in him.

  163. 4evaRaider Says:

    I think I’m gonna cry lol

  164. UP LOCOMOTIVE ENGINEER Says:

    raidertay Says:
    December 21st, 2009 at 3:30 pm
    I wonder if Miller’s rush to get back on the field has anything to do with the TE play yest. Myers was doin a great job blocking and Tony made some HUGE catches.
    =================

    he’s better than both of them put together PERIOD !

  165. 4evaRaider Says:

    god you guys type fast

  166. Dakota Says:

    Walker’s block on the Bush TD run was great…totally sealed off the d-line…but Myers’ blocks put Bush in the endzone.

    Great job kid!

  167. 4evaRaider Says:

    yep blocked 2 donkeys

  168. Senior Beeecham Says:

    Ha, ha, that’s another great joke, Krappy! Like I would EVER believe you don’t love and value our friendship as much as I do. You are such a big old silly buns!

    So tell me about your cool Christmas plans – you and the missus taking your traditional walk down to Arby’s for a patty melt combo and egg nog surprise?

    Anyway, I’m looking forward to another great year together on the blog.

    Krappy + Beeecham = Friends ’till the End

  169. Plunketthead Says:

    Beechum

    What is a solid for uncle sam?

  170. Florida Pete Says:

    Plunketthead Says:
    December 21st, 2009 at 3:36 pm
    Beechum

    What is a solid for uncle sam?

    ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::

    crapping in a toilet???

  171. Florida Pete Says:

    just askin’

  172. raidertay Says:

    Plz Raiders, Dont celebrate all week and then get your as handed to you by Cleveland. Just hold it together for 2 more weeks and lets end the season with something to build on. Plz

  173. Dark Forces Says:

    DHB – “Want to help out my teammates.”

    Stay right where you are.

  174. Dakota Says:

    You know, after Kelly lost his pants a Bronco looked like he was about to help Kelly out…then he changed his mind.

    Just the thought of helping a Raider out shows me that this rivalry isn’t what it used to be!

  175. Senior Beeecham Says:

    Creating some positive vibrations between countries, Plunky. Catching some tubular sets by day, tracking down elusive drug runners by night, macking on muy caliente chicas until the break o dawn.

    Obama owes me a pat on the back. But I’ll settle for a beat down of the Browns. Or KrappyKell posting some more pictures of he and the missus on his wacky real estate website.

    Ayyyyy Chiwawa!

  176. Plunketthead Says:

    Did a crap for uncle sam?
    That doesnt go very well with tasty babes, sweet waves and freedom

  177. Plunketthead Says:

    Didnt your name use to be beach something?

  178. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    Perhaps if Cable focused his fulltime attention to being a head coach…the team would stay focused each week.

    Its the little things and I will BET $100 that Cable being the O.C takes him away from managing the team

  179. Plunketthead Says:

    Positive vibes go with tasty babes, sweet waves and freedom a lot better then a bowel movement

  180. Plunketthead Says:

    I have positive vibes about the future of the Oakland Raiders. Al is about to turn it around again.

    I sure am glad I didnt burn my Cable jersey, yet.

  181. KoolKell Says:

    SnB

    I’m a fan of yours, but it sure looks to me that the players genuinely like Cable. They were hugging and slapping him quite a bit yesterday.

  182. DKnight007 Says:

    mistic1 Says:
    December 21st, 2009 at 2:56 pm
    Fry has an arm, he just isnt that good. Grads and fry are scrappers, but they dont have the talent. Russel, like it or not has the most talent of the bunch by far, he needs to follow grads and learn how to prepare.

    ^^^^^^^^^
    Sometimes scrappy QB’s have the intangibles to win games, be a leader, and get teamates to consistently play for them.

  183. DKnight007 Says:

    raidertay Says:
    December 21st, 2009 at 3:40 pm
    Plz Raiders, Dont celebrate all week and then get your as handed to you by Cleveland. Just hold it together for 2 more weeks and lets end the season with something to build on. Plz

    ^^^^^^^^
    They need to start prepping for Cleveland….NOW!

  184. DocsRaiders Says:

    “Same old, same old, day by day, week by week,” Heyward-Bey said. “Don’t want to rush anything but also want to get back out there, you know? Want to help out my teammates.”

    Then stay on the bench!!

  185. DKnight007 Says:

    Al Davis still SUCKS!!

  186. Dakota Says:

    Holmgren has agreed to terms with the Browns.

  187. 4evaRaider Says:

    Plunketthead….you are radioactiverabbits arent you?

  188. Dakota Says:

    night all

  189. Senior Beeecham Says:

    Plunk, you’re preaching to the choir, big fella. Now help me convince Krappy that all of his pant crapping is doing nothing to help our country’s strained relations with our Mexican brothers.

    The old frog thinks he’s breaking down racial intolerance with each adult diaper he fills with man chili. It’s an international diplomacy nightmare!

    If only we can get KrappyKell to buy into a platform of understanding, sweet surfing and spooning with dope foreign babes we can all finally be free – and cool!

  190. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    KoolKell Says:
    December 21st, 2009 at 3:49 pm
    SnB

    I’m a fan of yours, but it sure looks to me that the players genuinely like Cable. They were hugging and slapping him quite a bit yesterday.
    =======================================================
    Let’s see if he can get this team prepared to fight in each of the next two games.

    No blowouts….

    Cable needs to delegate the O.C and focus on overall team preparation.

  191. Silver-n-Smac Says:

    # Richochet Says:
    December 21st, 2009 at 2:13 pm

    The Real MaddenRaider Says:
    December 21st, 2009 at 1:51 pm

    Pete, I don’t have a conclusion.
    =======================
    Blathering idiots rarely do.
    You just can’t figure out anything, can you?

    You love russell. You hate russell.
    You bought his jersey. You didn’t buy his jersey.
    You admit you lie. You forgot that you admit you lie.
    You cross post with 7 handles and got caught. You can’t remember how many handles you had when you got caught.

    And now? You post who knows how many stupid, head up ass takes about how happy Cable was, or was not..and you HAVE NO POINT?

    Let me sum it up.
    You’re a freaking idiot.
    And one of the sorriest insecure attention whores you’ll find anywhere.

    See…to you? Everyone crapping on your sorryass is the attention you so crave.
    It’s like the idiot kid in the neighborhood..always hanging around saying stupid things..almost inviting to get kicked in the ass.
    Then he goes home and feels all warm and fuzzy that he got attention.
    Now? Now you’re going to pretend it doesn’t matter what anyone says, when we all know that somehow, in your juvenile world, in between playing video games, getting your ass kicked is the highlight of your day.

    Good for you, MoronRaider. :)

    ***********************************************

    Wow – can’t believe I’m actually agreeing with you on something.

    Yeah, that about sums up my thoughts on MoronRaider (good one)

  192. DKnight007 Says:

    Another intriguing prospect the Raiders will most definitely look at.

    Penn State Center…Stefan Wisniewski, 6′3, 298.

    His uncle is Raider great Steve Wisniewski of course……who should be in the HOF IMO….8 time Pro Bowler who was a domninating LG for the Raiders.

  193. RaiderD Says:

    MR seems to bring out the “best” in everyone. lol.

  194. RaiderRetribution Says:

    just a thought;

    next year even if Marshall is a RFA,we should attempt to get him next season,
    Broncos would be w/o their best offensive weapon or have to pay out the ass, or we lose a high draft pick or two (which keeps Al from drafting the fastest man at the combine).

  195. Plunketthead Says:

    “We’re getting better as a football team,” Cable said. “You can all see that. What did (the Broncos) rush for, 80 yards? It’s pretty easy to be able to manage that. We’re getting much better.

    “Less big plays (allowed). We’re getting a little better: inch-by-inch. On third downs, we’re getting better. What I like, and the reason we won today is, we give a damn about each other and we have some trust going on, and we’re trying to all pull the same way. We all believe we’re on the verge of getting it where we want it to be.”

  196. Plunketthead Says:

    http://www.contracostatimes.com/raiders/ci_14039903

  197. KoolKell Says:

    Really, has Justin Fargas EVER had ANY games like Bush’s big games?

    Gotta let the best players play, and let them do what they do.

    Is Johnnie Lee Higgins a big improvement over Bey or what? C’mon

    Gotta let the best players play.

  198. Plunketthead Says:

    yes I am RR

  199. DKnight007 Says:

    Another intriguing prospect the Raiders will most definitely look at…..

    Penn State Center…Stefen Wisniewski, 6′3, 298.

    His uncle is Raider great Steve Wisniewski of course……who should be in the HOF IMO….8 time Pro Bowler who was a domninating LG for the Raiders.

  200. RaiderRetribution Says:

    save $$$ and jobs deeat the Browns;
    I know I stated that if we defeat Denver (or the other arch rival Pittsburg) then I wouldn’t care if we lose to the Browns; still true

    but now you Raider players must defeat the Browns for yourselves;
    You must prove you can win back to back; also it puts your team farther back in each round of the draft, thereby better chance of saving your jobs and staying together next year.

    Although I still think Michael Vick will be wearing the Silver & Black next year.

  201. mistic1 Says:

    Wisnieski would be an awesome pick. He seems to be a lock at center for who ever takes him. The raiders are sitting pretty if we draft o-line early and d-tackle late or vice versa we cant lose.

  202. CaptainBlack Says:

    MR, enjoy the win and SHUT THE FLUCK UP!

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  204. DKnight007 Says:

    mistic1 Says:
    December 21st, 2009 at 4:20 pm
    Wisnieski would be an awesome pick. He seems to be a lock at center for who ever takes him. The raiders are sitting pretty if we draft o-line early and d-tackle late or vice versa we cant lose.

    ^^^^^^^^^
    If the old man doesnt get a top three pick and have a chance at Suh….he should trade down!!

    But he won’t….so the 2nd round may very well wind up being Wisniewski to shore up the Center position.

    Wis would be a good pick….he is smart, athletic and tough. He can man the Center position for the next 10 years potentially. He can compete with Satele and Morris. Morris and Satele can also compete at Guard.

  205. RaiderD Says:

    “It’s really (satisfying) to come in, and the guys support you, and be around,” Russell said. “I always say everybody has their opinion. As long as my teammates have faith (in me), and that I have faith in those guys. There’s always going to be tough times. It’s how you come up from behind and fight those tough times off.”

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    You think this is the beginning of JRuss learning how to talk to the press and not throwing his teammates under the bus?

  206. Ghost to the Post Says:

    Ricochet well said my man. I loved it. I have read your post to Moron Raider ten times. You hit the nail on the head. Awesome.

  207. RaiderD Says:

    Wait….. I read that comment again and it could also mean that he wasnt playing well because his teammates didnt have faith again. hes putting the blame on someone else again!

  208. mistic1 Says:

    Sometimes scrappy QB’s have the intangibles to win games, be a leader, and get teamates to consistently play for them. “DKnight007″
    ……………………………………………….
    This is very true, the classic over achiever. My point is that they lack the big time talent and their limitations will only allow you to go so far. case and point rich gannon. Fire, spunk, detail oriented, marginal talent.Oakland is a super bowl town. Grads and Fry dont have the goods to get you there.This is why guys like brady , manning,and rothlisberger win, and the hasslebecks, and the like are also rans. No.2 has the talent to take you all the way. What he is missing are the intangibles and leadreship qualities. When he gains these attributes watch out.

  209. KoolKell Says:

    Did you hear Bill Cowher questioning the Broncos and their playoff drive at halftime?

    “He said c’mon these are the Raiders for God’s sake”

  210. Silver-n-Smac Says:

    # KoolKell Says:
    December 21st, 2009 at 4:16 pm

    Really, has Justin Fargas EVER had ANY games like Bush’s big games?

    Gotta let the best players play, and let them do what they do.

    Is Johnnie Lee Higgins a big improvement over Bey or what? C’mon

    Gotta let the best players play.

    ************************************************

    I love how some of you fellas love to hoot it up when Bush or McFadden have a periodic breakout game and pad their stats as a result.

    Does it occur to you that you need a consistent running game throughout an entire game, for an entire season? Not just a big run here, a big run there.

    As I’ve said so many times, I like both of these young kids. But they both repeatedly fumble the ball (they both did again yesterday) and they seldom gain consitent 3, 4 yard runs to keep the chains moving.

    Sorry, but that’s what Fargas does. He puts us in a lot of 2nd & 6 or 3rd & 3 situations. That keeps drives alive.

    Yeah, I know – those long runs are exciting and sexy as hell.

    What Fargas does may not be pretty, but, football ain’t meant to be pretty.

  211. Silver-n-Smac Says:

    Good for Bill Cowher.

    He’s a schmuck, as is the rest of that crew.

  212. DKnight007 Says:

    Silver-n-Smac Says:
    December 21st, 2009 at 4:34 pm
    Good for Bill Cowher.

    He’s a schmuck, as is the rest of that crew

    ^^^^^^^^^
    Sounds like the chin is still hurting after his former team got beat and embarrassed at home by “just the raiders” at Pitt. LOL

  213. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    mistic1 Says:
    December 21st, 2009 at 4:29 pm
    Sometimes scrappy QB’s have the intangibles to win games, be a leader, and get teamates to consistently play for them. “DKnight007″
    ……………………………………………….
    This is very true, the classic over achiever. My point is that they lack the big time talent and their limitations will only allow you to go so far. case and point rich gannon. Fire, spunk, detail oriented, marginal talent.Oakland is a super bowl town. Grads and Fry dont have the goods to get you there.This is why guys like brady , manning,and rothlisberger win, and the hasslebecks, and the like are also rans. No.2 has the talent to take you all the way. What he is missing are the intangibles and leadreship qualities. When he gains these attributes watch out.
    =======================================================
    Excellent…excellent point. The best thing the Raiders can do in this offseason is not make any assumptions about starters at the QB position next year.

    Gradkowski played in 3 games. The NFL is littered with players that had a couple of good games. Great effort…but not enough to be “given” the starting job or even considered in the lead. THis offseason should start with a clean slate.

    The only thing Gradkowski should be guaranteed is a chance to compete….that’s it.

    Full competition in camp next year!

  214. raiderzmaverick Says:

    # KoolKell Says:
    December 21st, 2009 at 1:24 pm

    RaideredoutL.A. Says:

    December 21st, 2009 at 1:21 pm
    dont rush it dhb, seriously.
    ———————
    lol, no, don’t rush it, baby.
    ———————————–
    LOL – that’s a funny thought. Imagine if he comes back early and plays hurt….might risk his high production….after all he caught 9 catches through 11 games healthy.

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