Raiders live chat on Tuesday at noon
By Jon Becker
Monday, December 21st, 2009 at 8:05 pm in Live chats, Oakland Raiders.
How does JaMarcus Russell’s performance Sunday against Denver change his future with the Raiders? Find out what Jerry McDonald thinks during our live Raiders chat on Tuesday, Dec. 22 at noon PST.
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December 21st, 2009 at 8:16 pm
i am most humbly honored to be first…
December 21st, 2009 at 8:17 pm
and second…
December 21st, 2009 at 8:17 pm
third…
not so much…
December 21st, 2009 at 8:17 pm
4th…
not at all…
December 21st, 2009 at 8:18 pm
4th
December 21st, 2009 at 8:18 pm
6th
December 21st, 2009 at 8:18 pm
Pete’s Draft – 1st Edition
1st Round – Center
Stefen Wisniewski*, Penn State
Height: 6-3. Weight: 298.
Projected 40 Time: 5.13.
We should trade down to pick up an extra pick in the 2nd or 3rd and then take this kid. A real live, smart center with a little bit of a pedigree…
2nd Round – Defensive Tackle
Dan Williams, Tennessee
Height: 6-3. Weight: 327.
Projected 40 Time: 5.25.
2nd Team All SEC – I like big, mean, heavy loads in the middle…
3rd Round (1st pick) – Middle Linebacker
Micah Johnson, Kentucky
Height: 6-2. Weight: 254.
Projected 40 Time: 4.71.
2nd Team All SEC – I like big mean heavy loads in the middle…
3rd Round (2nd Pick) – Right Tackle
Anthony Davis*, Rutgers
Height: 6-6. Weight: 330.
Projected 40 Time: 5.24.
Big, strong guy… may not be there when we pick…
4th Round – Right Tackle
Chris Scott, Tennessee
Height: 6-5. Weight: 341.
Projected 40 Time: 5.43.
Big, strong guy… should be there when we pick…
7th Round – Defensive Tackle
DeMarcus Granger, Oklahoma
Height: 6-3. Weight: 330.
Projected 40 Time: 5.40.
He’s a medical basket case… but if he’s there… and he might be… we should take him…
December 21st, 2009 at 8:19 pm
You having fun Pete?
December 21st, 2009 at 8:20 pm
I still say we draft a center in the 2nd or 3rd round.
December 21st, 2009 at 8:23 pm
normally i would agree with you…
but there are 2 reasons we need one in the first round…
1. we desperately need a center… smart, strong, nasty…
2. there are only 2 good centers in this draft… the rest are not worthy of consideration…
wisneiwski has the pedigree, is smart, and we really really really need a good center…
December 21st, 2009 at 8:25 pm
Give me a link where I could read up on this guy! You keep on talking about Wiski and pedigree. Need more info!
December 21st, 2009 at 8:29 pm
r8eray Says:
December 21st, 2009 at 8:25 pm
Give me a link where I could read up on this guy! You keep on talking about Wiski and pedigree. Need more info!
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He’s referring to his father Steve Wisniewski.
And if you don’t know who he is, well, you’re on the wrong blog site.
December 21st, 2009 at 8:31 pm
Florida Pete,
That’s quite the detailed draft already, you must have some free time.
I don’t start looking at the draft until the big bowl games start, and I know where the Raiders will be picking.
December 21st, 2009 at 8:32 pm
Bush and McFadden both had their chance to shine at the start of the year. They looked great in the game against SD and solid against KC, but then stumbled a bit and DMac got hurt. When Fargas first started playing this year it cannot be denied that he gave the team a spark and improved the running game.
I believe the Raiders truly want Bush/DMac to win the job…but they have to win it. Play like they did against the Donks and they are well on their way. Fargas is so damn consistent, if the young guys get that down they will get the snaps.
December 21st, 2009 at 8:33 pm
I went back and watched the game. TKelley had a very solid game. All 4 qtrs. He has benefited the most from Seymore. He gets doubled half the times, but he had a good game
December 21st, 2009 at 8:35 pm
http://www.gopsusports.com/sports/m-footbl/mtt/wisniewski_stefen00.html
December 21st, 2009 at 8:38 pm
consistent = 3.8 yards per carry…
80 yards per game…
i’ll take Bush’s 5.0 yards per carry…
thank you very much…
December 21st, 2009 at 8:38 pm
Stefan Wisniewski is Steve’s nephew…
December 21st, 2009 at 8:41 pm
Florida Pete Says:
December 21st, 2009 at 8:38 pm
Stefan Wisniewski is Steve’s nephew…
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Oops. Wrong again.
Do you know if has any kids that are playing?
December 21st, 2009 at 8:43 pm
We should have been starting Bush since the beginning of last year.
If we had been starting Bradkowski and Bush without DHB, we would be going to the playoffs.
December 21st, 2009 at 8:44 pm
“Same old, same old, day by day, week by week,” Heyward-Bey said. “Don’t want to rush anything but also want to get back out there, you know? Want to help out my teammates.”
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Help out my teammates?
You’re doing that right now.
December 21st, 2009 at 8:45 pm
I thought that name sounded familiar! I dont think he’s coming out yet! He’s staying another year. But you got the right idea…just like when I was saying draft Howie’s son!
December 21st, 2009 at 8:51 pm
raidertay Says:
December 21st, 2009 at 8:33 pm
I went back and watched the game. TKelley had a very solid game. All 4 qtrs. He has benefited the most from Seymore. He gets doubled half the times, but he had a good game
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I thought he was supposed to be like Seymore when Al signed him to that big contract. Sort of a hybrid DE/DT type who could move around.
Instead he’s put on a ton of weight, and is stuck at the tackle spot.
December 21st, 2009 at 9:01 pm
Pete,
Here is a second link, I gave you one last blog.
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/prospectrankings/TSX/2010_C?&start_row=1
December 21st, 2009 at 9:17 pm
# raidertay Says:
December 21st, 2009 at 8:33 pm
I went back and watched the game. TKelley had a very solid game. All 4 qtrs. He has benefited the most from Seymore. He gets doubled half the times, but he had a good game
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He was doing so well, on one play he slipped out of his lowers and gave the opponents some up close a$$ for good measure.
ROFLMAO
December 22nd, 2009 at 12:56 am
# Florida Pete Says:
December 21st, 2009 at 8:18 pm
Pete’s Draft – 1st Edition
1st Round – Center
Stefen Wisniewski*, Penn State
Height: 6-3. Weight: 298.
Projected 40 Time: 5.13.
We should trade down to pick up an extra pick in the 2nd or 3rd and then take this kid. A real live, smart center with a little bit of a pedigree…
2nd Round – Defensive Tackle
Dan Williams, Tennessee
Height: 6-3. Weight: 327.
Projected 40 Time: 5.25.
2nd Team All SEC – I like big, mean, heavy loads in the middle…
3rd Round (1st pick) – Middle Linebacker
Micah Johnson, Kentucky
Height: 6-2. Weight: 254.
Projected 40 Time: 4.71.
2nd Team All SEC – I like big mean heavy loads in the middle…
3rd Round (2nd Pick) – Right Tackle
Anthony Davis*, Rutgers
Height: 6-6. Weight: 330.
Projected 40 Time: 5.24.
Big, strong guy… may not be there when we pick…
4th Round – Right Tackle
Chris Scott, Tennessee
Height: 6-5. Weight: 341.
Projected 40 Time: 5.43.
Big, strong guy… should be there when we pick…
7th Round – Defensive Tackle
DeMarcus Granger, Oklahoma
Height: 6-3. Weight: 330.
Projected 40 Time: 5.40.
He’s a medical basket case… but if he’s there… and he might be… we should take him…
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Not a bad mock. I love the younger Wis, to be the future Center, he is smart, tough and strong at 6′3, 298, and has the Raider lineage….but taking him within the top 7 is a big reach.
Then again the crazy old man Al has reached for WR’s with inconsistent hands, underacgieving CB’s, overweight and lazy QB’s, and has even drafted a freakin kicker for cryin out loud in Round 1…..so if the looney decides to reach for Wis with a top 7 pick….I wouldn’t be at all shocked.
At least the kid Wis uncle Wis was a great Raider. The Raiders need to trade down from the top 7….as we say every year…but the old looney man won’t do it.
December 22nd, 2009 at 12:57 am
# Florida Pete Says:
December 21st, 2009 at 8:38 pm
Stefan Wisniewski is Steve’s nephew…
^^^^^^^^^
I pointed that out in the last thread……
December 22nd, 2009 at 1:12 am
# aig Says:
December 21st, 2009 at 4:42 pm
Our team will be a playoff contender if we can ever Jawalrus far away from the huddle.
…………..
Not with Al Davis in charge they won’t.
December 22nd, 2009 at 1:19 am
JaWalrus was away from the huddle in ‘03. No playoffs.
JaWalrus was away from the huddle in ‘04. No playoffs.
JaWalrus was away from the huddle in ‘05. No playoffs.
JaWalrus was away from the huddle in ‘06. No playoffs.
JaWalrus was away from the huddle in ‘07. No playoffs.
But, according to Al’s worshiper, all we have to do is remove Russell from the lineup, and we’re a playoff team.
December 22nd, 2009 at 1:20 am
Does anyone here actually believe Frye won’t get injured Sunday?
December 22nd, 2009 at 2:52 am
Will Frye even have the cobwebs out his head he hit his head pretty hard, wat TMR you not a fan of the 7 step drop ?
December 22nd, 2009 at 4:11 am
Morning NATION!!!!
December 22nd, 2009 at 4:16 am
someone call the roll…
December 22nd, 2009 at 4:29 am
ROLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL
come here
December 22nd, 2009 at 5:52 am
December 22nd, 2009 at 5:53 am
Good Morning Nation!!!
Roll call…present and accounted for…wait, i’m not in the military no more…lol
What’s up 4eva, Pete, 408…?
December 22nd, 2009 at 5:55 am
morning hwnrdr…
Im feeling happy.. Plunketthead is going down this week in Fantasy!!!
December 22nd, 2009 at 5:56 am
GOOD MORNING SPORT’S FAN’S “I MAY NOT BE IN A CLASS BY MYSELF,BUT IT SHURE DON’T TAKE LONG TO CALL ROLL..” MUHAMMED ALI
December 22nd, 2009 at 5:58 am
Morning Dirt Lot!!!
December 22nd, 2009 at 5:59 am
Morning Dirt Lot..
That donkey game made my Xmas. Now if we can win these last 2 games I will really be stoked!
December 22nd, 2009 at 6:04 am
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
HOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
December 22nd, 2009 at 6:07 am
I JUST MISS THAT WTF LOOK ON HIS FACE SHANNARAT USED TO GET AS THE CLOCK WAS TICKING AWAY,AND THE RAIDER’S WERE WINNING IN THEIR YARD, AGAIN..
December 22nd, 2009 at 6:09 am
I know Dirt-Lot…..and I love saying that,”in their own back yard” lol
December 22nd, 2009 at 6:09 am
yo 4eva!! Wake N Bake?
December 22nd, 2009 at 6:10 am
I did see it on McDaniels face though…and that was good enough for me! But yeah, I feel ya. Shanarat was priceless with that face!
December 22nd, 2009 at 6:10 am
So you beat Marley by 1 hude big point eh 408!
December 22nd, 2009 at 6:10 am
huGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGe
December 22nd, 2009 at 6:12 am
Yep 408 thee ol wake-n-bake!!!! Of course I have my guitar on my lap….On Vanderbilly todays aassignment is Blue Collar Man by Styxx!
December 22nd, 2009 at 6:16 am
Now I want to see that kind of face on Rob Ryan…you know that “WTF” that his defense actually got ran over by the Raiders!
December 22nd, 2009 at 6:17 am
4 eva final score 114-99…
I already lost once 2 plunkk so this is the rematch
December 22nd, 2009 at 6:18 am
I MAY BE SCAR’D 4 LIFE THOUGH AFTER WATCHING TOMMY KELLT RUSH THE PASSER WITH NO PANT’S ON..
December 22nd, 2009 at 6:18 am
Morning folks…..won’t be here long this morning. Sure is much calmer in here after a W.
Saw Bob Ryan on Around the Horn say the Raiders may have the most “good” wins than any other team in the NFL.
Beat the Steelers and Broncos on the road, Bengals and Eagles at home. Wins over the Steelers, Broncos and Bengals, man if we were in the playoff hunt we would be set with the tie-breakers!!
December 22nd, 2009 at 6:21 am
lil bobby ryan lol
December 22nd, 2009 at 6:22 am
I would love nothing more than to rush for 250+ yards and enact some type of revenge on Rob Ryan this weekend.
3 point dogs this weekend. Knock Quinn around a little, and he will just check down to his back and TE all game. He is as soft as they come.
December 22nd, 2009 at 6:23 am
DIRT-LOT FOOTBALL Says:
December 22nd, 2009 at 6:18 am
I MAY BE SCAR’D 4 LIFE THOUGH AFTER WATCHING TOMMY KELLT RUSH THE PASSER WITH NO PANT’S ON..
Good thing my coffee was about 6″ away from me…LOL
December 22nd, 2009 at 6:24 am
I dont know why,if thats the case,we fall behind he wont use Bush.We been behind a lot this year and still pulled some out.This is what Grads brings,imo….We could still be behind AND use Bush because opposing D’s cant stack-up
December 22nd, 2009 at 6:25 am
A good morning to the AM crew.
December 22nd, 2009 at 6:25 am
good morning AM crew!
felt good to punch the donkeys in the mouth, didn’t it?
December 22nd, 2009 at 6:26 am
Sorry if this has already been asked and answered….
but is Bush a free agent next season?
December 22nd, 2009 at 6:27 am
Neilb,
I believe 2010 is the last year on his rookie contract.
December 22nd, 2009 at 6:28 am
Morning Vegas Neilb RRS…
Pound The Bush… We have to beat the browns.
December 22nd, 2009 at 6:28 am
Good Morning Rockstar, Vegas, Neilb…
Yes it did! Always happy when we beat the Donks!
December 22nd, 2009 at 6:29 am
Damn,I hope we re-sign him.
December 22nd, 2009 at 6:31 am
Michael Bush wants to be a starter.
3rd string behind crash test dummy & McFumble is an insult!
December 22nd, 2009 at 6:32 am
I only watched the game till the half ( early start )and was a little shocked at how close it was in the end.We looked the better team by far…
It’s always good to beat the donks.
December 22nd, 2009 at 6:34 am
Fargas will be the wrong side of 30 next season.Al better get his act together and re-sign Bush.
December 22nd, 2009 at 6:35 am
Neilb,ROCKSTAR,VEGAS,GOOD DAY 2 U GENTLEMAN,CLEVELAND CAN B HAD,RAVEN’S WILL B HARD 2 BEAT,EVEN AT THE COLOSIUM, BUT WINNING OUT THIS YEAR WOULD MAKE PEOPLE TAKE NOTICE IMO.
December 22nd, 2009 at 6:36 am
I agree Neilb….Bush is by far the best back we have and he came cheap (4th round). The only public complaint I heard from him was being used as a Full Back…Now if they can figure out a way to properly use McFadden…
December 22nd, 2009 at 6:39 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
December 22nd, 2009 at 6:31 am
Michael Bush wants to be a starter.
3rd string behind crash test dummy & McFumble is an insult!
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the above, gentlemen, is the proverbial hitting of the nail on the head…
resigning Bush now would save us a lot of money…
after the 2010 season he won’t be cheap… and that’s whether he plays or not…
December 22nd, 2009 at 6:40 am
we beat the Eagles, Bengals, Broncos & Steelers this year.
we lost games to the Chiefs, Redskins, Jets & Texans.
for every great win there is an awful loss!
I wouldn’t be surprised if we got crushed by the Browns and come back to beat the Ravens in Week 17.
thats the way this Raiders team goes about their business
December 22nd, 2009 at 6:40 am
Hwnrdr….a fourth round pick with first round talent.I think they might be on the right road with Dmac,he’s starting to make some impact.
December 22nd, 2009 at 6:41 am
hwnrdr Says:
December 22nd, 2009 at 6:36 am
Now if they can figure out a way to properly use McFadden…
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with his speed he can get that water out to Bush much more quickly…
December 22nd, 2009 at 6:43 am
neilb Says:
December 22nd, 2009 at 6:40 am
Hwnrdr….a fourth round pick with first round talent.I think they might be on the right road with Dmac,he’s starting to make some impact.
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Bush was indeed a 4th round pick with 1st round talent…
and then we followed that up by using a 1st round pick on 4th round talent…
December 22nd, 2009 at 6:43 am
Pete….lol!!
December 22nd, 2009 at 6:45 am
Just how much coffee have you had this morning Pete ?
Too funny!!
December 22nd, 2009 at 6:45 am
Ma…mamma says that…
Rockstar, I hope we DONT get crushed by the Browns…but remember now…Holmgren is watching now!
December 22nd, 2009 at 6:46 am
McFadden would be much better with upgrades at C, RG & RT imo … and somebody who can hold their own at QB
teams used to stack the box with Russell behind center because they knew he couldn’t get the job done and take advntage of mismatches or audible and change the playcall at the line of scrimmage
I still think DMC & Bush can be Thunder & Lightning.
everybody thought Cedric Benson was a bust until he got some blocking in Cincy!
December 22nd, 2009 at 6:47 am
For everyone that think is a top rate back….Opposing D’s rally havent had to plan for him,being down the chart for whatever reason.He is NO Earl Campbell.He is big like Earl but nowhere near the stamina or arm strength.I know we have three RB’s,but whoever Bush ends up with they will have to have another top-notch RB which =$$$$$$$$$$$$$,io
December 22nd, 2009 at 6:50 am
HOW THE HELL DO U LET HOLMGREN GO 2 THE SORRY ASSD BROWN’S. UNBELIEVABLE !!!!!
December 22nd, 2009 at 6:51 am
4eva?? arm strength??
December 22nd, 2009 at 6:53 am
Dirt-lot…
Shocking isn’t it ? That’s 2 GM’s we’ve missed out on.
December 22nd, 2009 at 6:54 am
4eva simply does not like Bush…
but he does like Fargas…
and really that’s all there is to it…
when Fargas retires… then, maybe he will like Bush… but only if he is still on our team…
and playing fullback…
December 22nd, 2009 at 6:54 am
Hardly ever saw Campbell fumble.Bush alto he’s a good RB,he gets the ball knocked out too much,imo.
December 22nd, 2009 at 6:55 am
i don’t think Holmgren is that special…
December 22nd, 2009 at 6:58 am
Pete you almost got it right….You’re right tho and the reason is…..
When me or you or anyone was on the football team and the coach said,hey Pete I need you to go in there and play the _________ position to help the team.Well I bet player Pete woulda knocked the coach over to get in the game.
Just like #2 he doesent care enough to help his team in any way he can.He let hus teammates down in that regard,imo.Call me old-fashioned….but Bush wont do anything to help his team,imo
December 22nd, 2009 at 6:59 am
Fargas was MR Butterfingers back in the day..
December 22nd, 2009 at 7:00 am
besides conditioning issues and his fumbles he’s a good back lol
December 22nd, 2009 at 7:00 am
Matt Millen is still available…..
December 22nd, 2009 at 7:01 am
put a sock in it dude Bush is the guy. When has Fargas ever ran 4 133 or 170 something?? Keep in mind Im a Fargas guy..
December 22nd, 2009 at 7:03 am
I still think when all 3 are retired Dmac is the man
December 22nd, 2009 at 7:06 am
I’m not sure 408.Vs. Miami he had 127 and had 1000 in 9 games that year B4 injury.
Plus you 4get Fargas blasted the Bucs silly allowing Bush to get 177 in less 2.5 quarters
December 22nd, 2009 at 7:07 am
hey 4eva check out this thingy RAIDERMIGHT made
http://www.sidelinetweets.com/default.aspx
December 22nd, 2009 at 7:08 am
Got nothing against Fargas but with his age and injury history we’ve got to thinking a few years down the line.Bush should start against the Browns.
December 22nd, 2009 at 7:08 am
And 408 Cable didnt use an extra Tackle as a tight-end.With Pears,Mario and big bad Walker the like was steam-rolling the donkeys.Fargas would got 190 EASY,there is your sock =)
December 22nd, 2009 at 7:09 am
theYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY
December 22nd, 2009 at 7:09 am
McFadden loses his footing more than any back I have ever seen. Without being touched.
December 22nd, 2009 at 7:10 am
Career numbers:
Bush 198 rushes… 3 fumbles… 2 this year… 6 TDs…
Fargas 827 rushes… 10 fumbles… 0 this year… 10 TDs…
December 22nd, 2009 at 7:10 am
yeah 408 I remember you telling me about this a couple months ago
December 22nd, 2009 at 7:13 am
okay… i see…
clearly there is absolutely nothing that can be said that you won’t say Fargas could hav edone better…
you’ve managed to even give the credit to Fargas for Bush 177 against the Bucs…
so…
i give up…
Fargas is the best there is… the best there ever was and the best there ever will be…
somebody call Canton…
December 22nd, 2009 at 7:15 am
LOL pete….
December 22nd, 2009 at 7:17 am
Holmgren has no track record of being a good GM. He can assemble a staff, and coach, but his drafts were so bad in Seattle they removed him as GM and made him only a coach.
So not a big loss there.
December 22nd, 2009 at 7:19 am
Ummm…why is JLH falling down after getting tapped on the leg?
December 22nd, 2009 at 7:24 am
4eva where did ya go??
December 22nd, 2009 at 7:33 am
So we get to see up close and personal what we could have had under Kiffin if we drafted Joe Thomas first overall, and then traded back in for Brady Quinn, instead of taking Russell.
This should be fun, lol!
December 22nd, 2009 at 7:35 am
“McFadden loses his footing more than any back I have ever seen. Without being touched.”
I agree, I believe gas something to do with the shoes/inserts he has since the 2 turf toe problem. He trys to make to many cuts. Turn the corner and GO… Stop dancing. Dmac should be lined up in the slot anyways. He is too little to be a running back.
December 22nd, 2009 at 7:35 am
hwnrdr Says:
December 22nd, 2009 at 7:19 am
Ummm…why is JLH falling down after getting tapped on the leg?
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Doesn’t he just seem like a fuggin clown? I’m so tired of this guys act man. He is the main reason I hope DHB turns into something so we can have Chaz, Murphy, and DHB as our top 3 guys.
December 22nd, 2009 at 7:38 am
Time to go…
Have a good ‘un
later…
December 22nd, 2009 at 7:39 am
JLH and McTiptoe both remind me of those Tom and Jerry cartoons…
they see they need to run…
they start running…
but their feet are not on the ground…
and so they are wheeling in mid-air…
but… i like them both way better than i like DHB right now…
(cause they can catch) !!!
December 22nd, 2009 at 7:43 am
Had to take a call….and Pete I never said that.He just wont do what the coach asks of him,even for a single game.He dont respect the team and is only out for himself,imo.And D,ac is our best back imo
December 22nd, 2009 at 7:52 am
The day of the rue is near, all the haters can feel it.
December 22nd, 2009 at 7:53 am
Florida Pete Says:
December 21st, 2009 at 5:40 pm
Lefty…
if you thought you were way better at your job than the other guys on your crew…
would you want to be their apprentice???
i wouldn’t… and i won’t…
Bush would have a job before midnight if the Raiders cut him right now…
and that goes for anytime this season…
or last for that matter…
December 22nd, 2009 at 7:53 am
Very intersting article about the Redskins in Newsweek. We always complain about the performance of the Raiders over the last six years but i wonder why the talking heads over in Bristol never mention some of the things in this article.
http://www.newsweek.com/id/227815/page/2
December 22nd, 2009 at 7:55 am
Dakota Says:
December 22nd, 2009 at 7:52 am
The day of the rue is near, all the haters can feel it.
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All I feel is regret over the worst draft pick ever by Al. Dorsey is becoming a serious player…MeFelldown is a monumental bust!
December 22nd, 2009 at 7:57 am
So, what’s the bet fellas? You think they’ll give Bush less than 10 carries next week now with Fargas healthy? I bet he’ll get less carries than the other 2 backs like he has all season long despite out producing them by far.
December 22nd, 2009 at 8:04 am
Bush should be the starting running back, hands down.
He runs harder than DMAC and he is more explosive than Fargas.
He can also catch for a big back and he is just in need of more reps.
DMAVC is a change of pace RB and I will say it one more time. Please look in history at Eric Metcalf (Da Browns) and see how they used this guy. Also see Reggie Bush for the Saints. Utilizes the guys speed because he is not a power back.
December 22nd, 2009 at 8:12 am
CJ
I agree with the DMac/Metcalf comparison but Bush is not a power back. He is a big guy with impressive moves but he will not move the pile at all. Dawkins blew him up at the goalline. 245lbs and he can’t move a pile tells me that he needs to hit the weight room in the offseason.
December 22nd, 2009 at 8:13 am
Bcz24, good read. Those inserts in McFadden’s shoes may be effecting his footing.
December 22nd, 2009 at 8:15 am
DT42 you are right in that Bush is no Jerome Bettis or even Jacobs for NY but he has more power than DMAC. NOw if I need to change up for 3-5 yards I look towards Fargas.
I still think Bush is our starting back right now.
When he has a game he really has a game. North to south runner.
December 22nd, 2009 at 8:20 am
I agree that Bush should start, I think they should use McFadden as a Metcalf type back like you said and Fargus as a closer. On that goalline stand Fargus should have been in there. I miss Zac Crockett being in there. Can’t we suit him up?? He is in the scouting dept!!!!
December 22nd, 2009 at 8:24 am
Give Bush EVERY ONE of McFelldown’s handoffs. DMAC should strictly catch passes. And maybe an occasional pitch.
He can also run back kickoffs when he learns how to take a hit without fumbling, however I have never seen a RB go so limp on contact. It’s like he is momentarily paralyzed with no regard for ball security.
December 22nd, 2009 at 8:26 am
McFadden = way to much dancing… should be getting the ball in space a la Reggie Bush
Bush = has no HEART… needs to be spelled every 2-3 carries
Fargas = has the heart and will impose his will, just not physically gifted or young enough to carry a team
Thats my take on our running situation
December 22nd, 2009 at 8:29 am
Dakota Says:
December 22nd, 2009 at 7:52 am
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All I feel is regret over the worst draft pick ever by Al. Dorsey is becoming a serious player…MeFelldown is a monumental bust!
You think McFadden is going to be more of a bust than DHB in the long run?
December 22nd, 2009 at 8:36 am
Mcfadden is no where a near a monumental bust. We are not utilizing him properly, he’s not Chris Johnson to be sure, but who the hell is to say Chris Johnson would be Chris Johnson behind our line. DHB is not getting a fair shake if you call him a bust. He DID NOT DRAFT HIMSELF at #7. Once the kid gets a little confidence, and a raport with a QB (NOT #2) he would be a decent WR, with huge upside on the long ball. I still say he should definitely be returning kicks.
December 22nd, 2009 at 8:36 am
Morning Nation,
McFadden has not run the same since he was forced to switch from Adidas to the Swoosh due to the NFL contract. Got turf toe right away and although Nike has changed his shoes several times, he hates running in them.
December 22nd, 2009 at 8:38 am
Why can DMac wear Adidas? Bush does
December 22nd, 2009 at 8:39 am
Reggie Bush that is
December 22nd, 2009 at 8:39 am
All I feel is regret over the worst draft pick ever by Al. Dorsey is becoming a serious player…MeFelldown is a monumental bust!
You think McFadden is going to be more of a bust than DHB in the long run?
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It is a close call, but DHB is still more of an unknown. In other words, DMAC has proven he is a massive bust while DHB has not fully exhibited his bustitude.
BTW that was me, not Dakota.
December 22nd, 2009 at 8:40 am
From Pro Sports Dailey
“Browns quarterback Brady Quinn has been placed on injured reserve with a right foot injury sustained on his 24 yard run at the end of Sunday’s 41-34 victory over Kansas City and will be lost for the season. “It’s going to take a little while (to heal),” said coach Eric Mangini. He said he’s not yet certain if he’ll undergo surgery. Derek Anderson will start Sunday against the Raiders. Brett Ratliff will be the No. 2 and Josh Cribbs will be the No. 3.”
December 22nd, 2009 at 8:42 am
Now that is some good news… the Browns almost looked competitive with Quinn the last few weeks…
December 22nd, 2009 at 8:42 am
that’s “Pro Sports Daily”
December 22nd, 2009 at 8:43 am
bcz24 Says:
December 22nd, 2009 at 8:36 am
Mcfadden is no where a near a monumental bust. We are not utilizing him properly, he’s not Chris Johnson to be sure, but who the hell is to say Chris Johnson would be Chris Johnson behind our line.
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Does our O-line make him fall down untouched? Does our O-line make him fumble so often? Does our O-line make him so injury prone?
Plus, this same O-line has been good enough to get Bush a few dominant performances while DMAC has none.
And how are you supposed to “utilize” a guy who – when not nursing injuries – usually trips or lets go of the ball?
December 22nd, 2009 at 8:44 am
I think that this years offseason will be the most important one in a long time. If this team is going to turn the corner this will be the make or break year.
McFadden – has to continue to heal from those turf toes. Work on Ball security. Offensive staff needs to find ways to get him the ball on the outside (think Charlie Garner/Eric Metcalf).
Bush – sign him to a long term contract, Al needs to make a commitment to him and tell him that he needs to be ready to carry the ball 20 times a game. He has to hit the weight room and work on conditioning. Zac Crockett should be working with him on how to deliver a hit or drop a forearm on a defender instead of running out of bounds. Earlier I said to trade him to NE for A. Thomas, draft T. Cody from ‘Bama and move to a 3-4. But I think we can pick up Thomas after he is cut.
Fargas – time to make the transition. I want to see him on KR’s. He did it in college and he is fearless. Focus on mentoring McFadden,Bush and leading special teams. Now he is going to need a reward for being selfless. Put him in a Zac Crockett type role. Give him the ball in goal line and short yardage situations and let him be a closer type when we are ahead and running out the clock in the 4th quarter.
December 22nd, 2009 at 8:52 am
Adrian Peterson fumbles FAR more than McFadden… is HE a monumental bust? I think not. Thats all there is to it… McFadden WAS dominating the Chargers in the 1st half of the first game, and then we CHOSE to move in another direction offensively. I agree he has a case of fumblitis but as someone else mentioned, Tiki Barber had it a LOT worse than DMac, and he worked at it and look how good he turned out. Im telling you right now, if we get rid of DMac he will go somewhere (NE) and show us exactly how good he could be. We will regret not giving that kid a chance to develop
December 22nd, 2009 at 8:54 am
And yes our pourous oline DOES make him fall down some times because hes have to make extra cuts in the backfield to try and allude the tacklers that busted up the play…
December 22nd, 2009 at 8:54 am
Brady Quinn season is over, he is in IR. Anderson to start against the Raiders
December 22nd, 2009 at 8:58 am
McFadden is not what we all expected, but he is doing pretty good the last games, the main problem for him is being healthy. I can’t call him bust.
December 22nd, 2009 at 8:58 am
I don’t think McFadden was drafted to be the next great RB, I think it was to bring big play ability to the offense. McFadden wasn’t some smash mouth runner in college, he was a weapon used in a lot of different ways. Another reason this offense SCREAMS for an OC is the way DMAC is used. He is NOT Fargas and he is NOT Bush in terms of a RB, but he is a big play waiting to happen as we saw in the Pittsburgh game and last week.
Find a way to get the guy matched up against a S or a LB in the passing game BY DESIGN! There is NO reason why we are not seeing that. What is being done to even set up a play like that?
Pitch sweep on 4th and goal from the 4 instead of 2nd and goal from the 1?
I mean, we can go on and on about this. Cable needs to be more creative!
December 22nd, 2009 at 9:00 am
El Tato Says:
December 22nd, 2009 at 8:54 am
Brady Quinn season is over, he is in IR. Anderson to start against the Raiders
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DAMN IT!
I wanted our D to kick the shyt outta Lady Quinn!
December 22nd, 2009 at 9:01 am
Dakota,
Even as a golden domer, I don’t think you were saying we should take Quinn, right?
December 22nd, 2009 at 9:03 am
The thing with McFadden should be “touches” instead of “carries”.
Cable needs to be WAY more creative with how he comes up with touches for McFadden. Let Bush be the “RB”, and just let McFadden be a weapon.
December 22nd, 2009 at 9:04 am
I agree Jhill… Just like Reggie Bush. Get him the ball and swing passes and screens and let him run.
December 22nd, 2009 at 9:05 am
Quinn out, Anderson in for the Browns this Sunday. It’s actually a fairly big blow for them because Quinn has been playing well and moving that offense the last month or so: 7 TDs to 2 INTs in his last 5 games. Browns averaging 24 ppg during that span after averaging around 10 ppg the rest of the season. Back to back wins.
While Anderson was very good a couple of seasons ago he’s been a total bust this year. Let’s put it this way: his QB rating is worse than JaMarcus Russell’s … 13 points worse.
December 22nd, 2009 at 9:22 am
bcz24 Says:
December 22nd, 2009 at 8:52 am
Adrian Peterson fumbles FAR more than McFadden… is HE a monumental bust? I think not. Thats all there is to it…
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You ought to check the stats before making such a ludicrous comment.
Peterson in his career has 882 carries and 19 fumbles, or 2.15%. He scores TDs (37) at 4.19%
DMAC has 205 carries so far in his underwhlming career and 8 fumbles, or 3.9%. And only 5 TDs, or 2.43%.
And these are total fumbles, not fumbles lost. Apples to apples, so to speak.
December 22nd, 2009 at 9:24 am
And Peterson also averages almost a yard more per carry than McFelldown (4.0 vs. 4.9).
December 22nd, 2009 at 9:25 am
From PFT:Out of 33 qualifying NFL quarterbacks, Quinn finishes second to last in completion percentage and yards-per-attempt. The only player Quinn bests in both categories: JaMarcus Russell, of course.
December 22nd, 2009 at 9:27 am
So, Peterson fumbles half as much and scores TDs twice as much. Nice.
Is someone really trying to come up with an angle to compare DMAC with Peterson? LOL! Peterson wins that one easy.
On the other hand, our coach doesn’t know how to use DMAC. I think he can be effective in space, as many have pointed out. Quit running him between the tackles!
December 22nd, 2009 at 9:29 am
bcz24 Says:
December 22nd, 2009 at 8:54 am
And yes our pourous oline DOES make him fall down some times because hes have to make extra cuts in the backfield to try and allude the tacklers that busted up the play…
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Weak.
December 22nd, 2009 at 9:29 am
Bo Schembechler Jackson’
Whats Fargus’s %?
December 22nd, 2009 at 9:30 am
“You ought to check the stats before making such a ludicrous comment.
Peterson in his career has 882 carries and 19 fumbles, or 2.15%. He scores TDs (37) at 4.19%
DMAC has 205 carries so far in his underwhlming career and 8 fumbles, or 3.9%. And only 5 TDs, or 2.43%.
And these are total fumbles, not fumbles lost. Apples to apples, so to speak.”
You made my point for me… 205 carries versus just shy of 900 carries. A little early to call him a bust dontcha think.
December 22nd, 2009 at 9:32 am
# Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
December 22nd, 2009 at 9:29 am
bcz24 Says:
December 22nd, 2009 at 8:54 am
And yes our pourous oline DOES make him fall down some times because hes have to make extra cuts in the backfield to try and allude the tacklers that busted up the play…
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Weak.
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Makes him fall down but not Bush, huh? What a load of crap! You have to remember we have 3 RBs. Unless all 3 RBs suffer from the very same problem, the cause is NOT the Oline. Or does the Oline block better for Bush? LMAO!
A poorly mowed patch of grass will cause DMAC to fall down.
December 22nd, 2009 at 9:34 am
bcz24 Says:
December 22nd, 2009 at 9:30 am
You made my point for me… 205 carries versus just shy of 900 carries. A little early to call him a bust dontcha think.
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LOL. Your point was NOT that he hasn’t carried enough to be called a bust yet. Your point was that Pterson fumbles more and isn;t a bust. That point was bogus.
If you now claim it is too early to call DMAC a bust, go ahead and hold your breath on that one. Just don’t expect me to revive you when you pass out.
December 22nd, 2009 at 9:36 am
“Makes him fall down but not Bush, huh? What a load of crap! You have to remember we have 3 RBs. Unless all 3 RBs suffer from the very same problem, the cause is NOT the Oline. Or does the Oline block better for Bush? LMAO!”
3 VERY different types of runners. Bush and Fargas run straight ahead, they dont make those cuts, McFadden does.
Look you can hate me for my opinion all you want, its what you guys do best around here. Im not losing sleep over it. You can definitely tell the difference between the educated posters and the trolls. We let our opinions be know… you call us stupid for doing so WHILE doing the same thing.
December 22nd, 2009 at 9:37 am
Fargas has 827 carries and 10 fumbles, or 1.2%. He also has 10 TDs. His YPC is 4.1 (better than McHugebust).
December 22nd, 2009 at 9:39 am
“LOL. Your point was NOT that he hasn’t carried enough to be called a bust yet. Your point was that Pterson fumbles more and isn;t a bust. That point was bogus.”
My point is not bogus at all. Why dont you look up and see how many times AP fumbled in his first 200 carries for a comparison. My point is simple, your calling a guy a bust before hes ever had a chance. I know Adrian Peterson is a much better RB the DMac, and would never compare the two. You just expect us to win Super Bowls with draft picks the same year. I know its going to take time for these to develop into quality players.
December 22nd, 2009 at 9:40 am
bcz24 Says:
December 22nd, 2009 at 9:36 am
Look you can hate me for my opinion all you want, its what you guys do best around here. Im not losing sleep over it. You can definitely tell the difference between the educated posters and the trolls. We let our opinions be know… you call us stupid for doing so WHILE doing the same thing.
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To paraphrase Al Franken, you can form your own opinion, just do not invent your own facts.
And now I am a troll for destroying your BS facts?
Weak.
December 22nd, 2009 at 9:40 am
Thx B.S.J., Fargus does not fumble but cannot get to the Red Zone.
December 22nd, 2009 at 9:41 am
Meant past the Red Zone to End ZOne. lol
December 22nd, 2009 at 9:42 am
bcz24 Says:
December 22nd, 2009 at 9:39 am
My point is simple, your calling a guy a bust before hes ever had a chance. I know Adrian Peterson is a much better RB the DMac, and would never compare the two. You just expect us to win Super Bowls with draft picks the same year.
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I waited until midway through THIS season to rag on DMAC. He has had his chance to shine.
And where did I say I “expect us to win Super Bowls with draft picks the same year”?
December 22nd, 2009 at 9:45 am
Right, I’m a troll now. Do yourself a favor and stick to the discussion. Resorting to name calling only exposes yourself as a fraud and serves to reveals the obvious; that you are unable to participate an adult discussion. Education? Haha. I have my degree. You, on the other hand, are seemingly unable to look up some simple statistics prior to making an argument. Then, when you’re called out, you change your stance and, eventually, resort to name calling. And you want to talk about education? Grow up.
December 22nd, 2009 at 9:47 am
I didnt invent any facts!!! It is well know that Adrian Peterson is at the top of the list for fumbles. Your the one who came in with quantifiable facts. Wheres the BS? Its not a BS fact at all that Adrian Peterson is a fumbler. You did prove to me that McFadden fumbles a higher percentage of carries than AP… which still doesnt change my opinion that you cant call a guy a bust when we dont even properly utilize him, and he runs behind a terrible OLine. I know I know Im stupid for thinking the Raiders OLine is terrible… Thats why 4 QBs have taken snaps for us in 2 games. Those guys are STUDS
December 22nd, 2009 at 9:47 am
Good Morning Raider Nation!!!
December 22nd, 2009 at 9:50 am
Morning, RNS
December 22nd, 2009 at 9:52 am
Thanks Big Banana. I have my degree as well… 3 of them actually. You say I dont look up stats and I changed my stance. 1. your right I did not look up stats, because exact percentages were not pertinant to my argument 2. my stance is still exactly the same. I STILL say you can not call McFadden a bust, its too early.
December 22nd, 2009 at 10:03 am
Use McFadden like we used to use Charlie Garner. What’s the harm in seeing what he will do with a shovel pass or a bubble screen.
If Cable stays he has to delegate better. He needs to focus on the O-Line where he is one of the best position coaches in the league. And then he needs to manage his staff. Let Tolliner be his OC and call plays, and keep everyone on the same page on game day.
If he can’t do that then Marc Trestman can.
December 22nd, 2009 at 10:10 am
dump the ZBS !!!
December 22nd, 2009 at 10:11 am
Marc Trestman has gone on record to say he isn’t coming back to the NFL this year. We all know that doesn’t mean anything other than he hasn’t been made an offer yet, but for now he doesn’t seem to be an option.
December 22nd, 2009 at 10:16 am
Florida Pete
I have no problem with ZBS as long as its complimented with some pulling guards and trap plays. DC’s have too much time to prepare just for one style of running. I don’t think that we have the type of athletes to run just a ZBS system but they can be found thru free agency and the draft for a bargin price. Besides I love to see a good cut block during a game.
December 22nd, 2009 at 10:17 am
Morning Everyone!
Anyone see haynesworth/hall vs jacobs last night?
December 22nd, 2009 at 10:21 am
Rob Ryan defense coming to town this weekend. Going to be interesting to see who wins this battles of the brains.
December 22nd, 2009 at 10:24 am
Rob Ryan and brains… in the same sentence? Jhill… are you a professional comedian, cuz that was funny! LMAO.
It should be a decent game up in Cleveland. What scares me is that Cleveland is a team we SHOULD beat. Means they will likely beat us by 20. lol
December 22nd, 2009 at 10:26 am
Bcz24:
I think Al has to at least make sure that Trestman knows that if he does want an NFL job and we are not going to retain Cable that Oakland is interested. He’s going to continue to win in Canada and I heard that the Bills were already curious about his interest in the NFL. But I think that Al has to make a choice with Cable sooner and not later.
December 22nd, 2009 at 10:28 am
We should be able to run the ball against the Browns but i would like to see us run a hurry up offense against them. Rob used to have a heart attack when someone ran it against us. (Falcons last year.)
December 22nd, 2009 at 10:29 am
jhill Says:
December 22nd, 2009 at 10:21 am
Rob Ryan defense coming to town this weekend. Going to be interesting to see who wins this battles of the brains.
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Unless my tickets for Sunday are wrong, the Raiders are coming to Cleveland on the 27th. Wonder if he calls on AD at the hotel Sat. night for dinner.
December 22nd, 2009 at 10:29 am
Brady Quinn placed on IR (foot).
Derek Anderson will start against Oakland
December 22nd, 2009 at 10:30 am
Can’t believe I’m driving 2 hours to go sit in the snow. lmfao
December 22nd, 2009 at 10:36 am
look out for Corey Williams, David Bowens & Kamerion Wimbley!
those dudes have a combined 16 sacks this year
Richard Seymour, Greg Ellis & Trevor Scott have a combined 17 sacks…
December 22nd, 2009 at 10:37 am
I was supposed to go to that game to exla… I love the city of Cleveland, I always have fun there. It should be good game though, if not a bit cold. LOL
December 22nd, 2009 at 10:38 am
Seabass has only missed 3 FG’s all year.
2 of those misses were from beyond 50 yards!
dude is quietly having a great season for us
December 22nd, 2009 at 10:42 am
DT42 Says:
December 22nd, 2009 at 10:28 am
We should be able to run the ball against the Browns but i would like to see us run a hurry up offense against them. Rob used to have a heart attack when someone ran it against us. (Falcons last year.)
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Rob Ryan might hold a better hand this weekend….I think you are assuming Ryan will be running the same Defense he ran here…just because Cleaveland’s record is bad. Ryan isn’t being handcuffed this weekend into opererating out of Al Davis scheme….that, and his knowledge and familiarity of the Raiders Offense and player tendencies might give him the upper hand preparing for this game.
December 22nd, 2009 at 10:42 am
From Jerome Bettis in Sports Ill:
…..”In Oakland, it’s the same thing I’ve said all year: be patient, and improve your quarterback situation. This team can clearly win with just a little bit of passing support. Don’t blow up the mold. Don’t tinker with Tom Cable’s staff. Just keep plugging away — oh, and make that quarterback change.”
From the Denver Post last week before the game: “JaMarcus Russell…Hard to believe that Charlie Frye’s caddie is making more than Tiger’s caddie.
December 22nd, 2009 at 10:43 am
How to beat the Browns… DONT KICK TO CRIBBS!
December 22nd, 2009 at 10:43 am
bcz24,
Where’s your home?
December 22nd, 2009 at 10:44 am
high of 34 degress on 12/27 in Cleveland
snow showers all weekend.
start BUSH!
December 22nd, 2009 at 10:46 am
Re: Trestman
As OC, he made Gruden, Gannon, and especially Callahan look mighty good. But his system requires an intelligent QB, meaning NO Russell. Grads or Frye would work. Zach would thrive. DHB would be doomed.
Also, Trestman would be a disaster as HC – too weak to force accountability. Cable has at least developed smarter, more mature play, lowered penalties, and squashed the me-first attitudes.
December 22nd, 2009 at 10:52 am
And by “intelligent” I meant football intelligence: Experience, quick thinking, dedication and vocal leadership.
I’m sure Jamarcus is smart enough as a person but it hasn’t translated into QB play yet.
December 22nd, 2009 at 10:52 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
December 22nd, 2009 at 10:44 am
high of 34 degress on 12/27 in Cleveland
snow showers all weekend.
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My pockets will be full of hand warmers. LOL
December 22nd, 2009 at 10:54 am
Im in Rochester NY. Its about 3.5-4 hours to Cleveland. Cleveland Chop House is my absolute favorite restaurant ever. The ribeye is amazing.
I agree that Trestman wouldnt be a great fit as an HC, especially with us. I may not like Cables play calling but I gotta agree BSJ, he has definitely started to change the culture around the Raiders. I think he has earned himself another season at least… definitely with the help of an OC though
December 22nd, 2009 at 10:54 am
his system requires an intelligent QB, meaning NO Russell.
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BSJ, you’re so racist! you’re saying JaMarcus is dumb just because he’s black, aren’t you?
gosh. kell was right about you. lol
December 22nd, 2009 at 10:56 am
BSJ_ I agree Trestman is a wee bit to mousy for a HC of the Oakland Raiders we win these last weeks we need to keep Tom Cable and bring in Jim Fassel as a OC or move up Tom Tollner to call plays.
December 22nd, 2009 at 10:56 am
start Southwick!
Frye had a concussion
Graddy has shredded knees
Russell is a bust
Losman has only been in the fold for a week – doesn’t know the offense yet
December 22nd, 2009 at 10:57 am
I think its a foregone conclusion the Russell is not included in the Raiders future, regardless of who is here or not here next year. The kid soaked us for 35million and will be out of football next year…
December 22nd, 2009 at 10:57 am
start Southwick!
Frye had a concussion
Graddy has shredded knees
Russell is a bust
Losman has only been in the fold for a week – doesn’t know the offense yet
I bet you Losman AT LEAST knows as much of the playbook as Russell…
December 22nd, 2009 at 10:58 am
Losman may alresdy know more of the Offense than JaMeatloaf,
December 22nd, 2009 at 10:58 am
spellcheck Says:
Rob Ryan might hold a better hand this weekend….I think you are assuming Ryan will be running the same Defense he ran here…just because Cleaveland’s record is bad. Ryan isn’t being handcuffed this weekend into opererating out of Al Davis scheme….that, and his knowledge and familiarity of the Raiders Offense and player tendencies might give him the upper hand preparing for this game.
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You bring up a good point, i haven’t seen much of the Browns this year. Does anyone see a difference between what he is running this year compared to when he was with us? I know he is running a 3-4 but i wonder more zone than man and does he blitz now?
December 22nd, 2009 at 10:59 am
Tollner & Hackett = ultra conservative
Cable = gamblin’ man
a mix of both looked like a good blend to kick-start the season, but it’s hard to tell with garbage on the o-line and vomit at the QB & WR positions
gotta have talented players to EXECUTE the play calls
December 22nd, 2009 at 11:02 am
Danny Southwick has been groomed all year.
time to throw the kid to the wolves. let him get his feet wet this season before he’s named starter of the 2010 season and makes his 1st NFL start in Week 1
Southwick/Gradkowski/Frye/Losman/Tebow competition next spring. stay tuned!
December 22nd, 2009 at 11:02 am
Cute, so all of you who had a BQuinn as a preference a couple of years ago will now miss the opportunity to watch him stink up another game. Damn.
What was in the water in ‘07? Russell, Quinn, Edwards – trifecta!
Windy and snowy by Lake Erie. A QB who couldn’t beat out the Brown QBs (Frye), a QB on two bad wheels who couldn’t make the Cleveland squad (Grads), a QB who lost his job to Edwards (Losman), A QB who su@ked so bad he had to be benched in favor of Quinn (Anderson) and our very own JaMonumental – wow, expecting scintillating field generalship might be a stretch come Sunday.
It’s the Robbo show. He’ll tell his D to strip the ball every time McF touches it.
So, run Bush, run Bush some more and run Bush some more. And TACKLE Jerome Harrison!
December 22nd, 2009 at 11:03 am
Tebow will never be a starting NFL quarterback.
December 22nd, 2009 at 11:05 am
“Tebow will never be a starting NFL quarterback.”
Unless Crazy Al drafts him….
December 22nd, 2009 at 11:06 am
Re: Trestman
I would be curious to see what Trestman would do with JRuss. I hear really good things from Canada on how he was grown as a Head Coach. He does have a very involved system and JRuss can’t half ass it. But like i said earlier i have no problem with keeping Cable as long as he delegates more and focuses on his strengths. I just think that if Cable does go then i’d take Trestman over Fassel. I just like his offense more.
I really think that this offseason is going to be huge for the franchise. The younger guys have to step it up and follow the lead of old pros like Seymour and Ellis. They have to learn to prepare for the season and take care of themselves. They (Jruss, Bush, Dmac and all of the others) have been in the league for a couple of years now they are veteran players now is the time to turn this thing around.
December 22nd, 2009 at 11:06 am
Tebow will never be a starting NFL quarterback.
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yeah and the Colts will never go 19-0
how do you know, nostradamus?
December 22nd, 2009 at 11:06 am
Hey, the trick play that Zorn cooked up last night almost made Cable’s pitch to Janokowski look like something intelligently designed.
December 22nd, 2009 at 11:08 am
Guess Ryan on the bubble again with Holmgren possibly cleaning house. Says he will continue to attack:
http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2009/12/defensive_coordinator_rob_ryan.html
December 22nd, 2009 at 11:09 am
That trick play by Zorn last night was his middle finger to Snyder…
December 22nd, 2009 at 11:09 am
back to work now. later gents!
December 22nd, 2009 at 11:10 am
You don’t have to be Nostrdamus to know Tebow is a system player…and that system will never work within the speed and size of the NFL…..if that not enough, Tebow is too fragile and his arm sucks.
December 22nd, 2009 at 11:10 am
Looks like Rob Ryan has not gotten a haircut since leaving Oakland.
December 22nd, 2009 at 11:13 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
December 22nd, 2009 at 10:56 am
start Southwick!
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I am baffled that Southwick is not playing. Losman, however, went to my high school so the vibes are still good.
Al must be prepping Southwick to move straight into a management or GM role – the only position more important than QB for the futire success of the team. Gang way for the kid on a mission from Gawd!
Al: Denny, theres 30 seconds left. Draft me that speedy CB…
Southwick: Sorry Mr. Davis, I already called it in. We picked the stud O-lineman.
Al: What!?! I’m your boss Davey!
Southwick: I know sir, but I went over your head.
December 22nd, 2009 at 11:15 am
This is a professional football team…not your kids little league.
Play the best players that give you the best chance to win.
Not players with intangibles but no production
Not players based on draft status
Not players on scholarship
Davis and Cable threw away the season giving too much playing time to the wrong players and banishing others inexplicably to the bench.
Russell, DHB, Fargas, DMAC got way too many touches this year. And the difference was a playoff chance.
If Gradkowski had played from go…we win two more games
If DHB WASN’T playing…we at least beat K.C – drop after drop after drop
Fargas should not have been starting…too many 20 carry 60 yard efforts. THAT DOES NOT WIN GAMES
DMAC see above
Tom Cable should only come back based on how well he uses these players:
1. Michael Bush
2. Louis Murphy
3 Johnnie Lee Higgins
December 22nd, 2009 at 11:21 am
i with most of you, i think bush should be our main rb. however he needs too many breathers. after they came back from commercial ( 2 min warning 1st half) bush carried for about 10 yrds to around the denver 10. i jokingly said to my pops, “watch he’s gonna need a rest”. just being sacrcastic of course. next thing u know bush is waving towards bench running off the field. 1 play and the dude needs a rest? c’mon man. thats probably why cable dont play him half the time. does he have asthma? thats a serious ? too. maybe dude has some sorta breathing issues.
December 22nd, 2009 at 11:25 am
You mean this trick play!
http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/blog/shutdown_corner/post/Let-s-run-Massive-Horrible-Train-Wreck-on-thr?urn=nfl,210374
LMFAO
December 22nd, 2009 at 11:31 am
u hear chucky? “i’ve never seen anything like that before” lmfaooooooooooooo
December 22nd, 2009 at 11:32 am
At least there’s been a play to outdo Cable’s Flip to Jano against KC last year…
Jano picking up 11 yards, that’s FUNNY!
December 22nd, 2009 at 11:33 am
On second thought,
Cable’s Flip to Jano,
is still the WORST fake FG EVER!
December 22nd, 2009 at 11:36 am
You would think an ogre like Seabass could break a tackle though… hes what 6′14″ 390lbs? I think hes the only guy on the team that is bigger than #2
December 22nd, 2009 at 11:37 am
6′14” that would make him 7′2”
December 22nd, 2009 at 11:39 am
i’ve been telling all of you that DHB needs to do the moises alou thing with his hands to soften them up. you know, PI$$ on his own hands like moises would do. hell its worth a try dhb. try it
December 22nd, 2009 at 11:41 am
lmfaoooooo. hitting the trees worse than sonny bono. lofugginL
December 22nd, 2009 at 12:08 pm
went back and read the posts from early in the game sunday. someone posted dmac has 80 carries 108 yrds. i did hear that during the broadcast. um dmac isnt that good, but i doubt he has 80 carries 4 108 yrds. thats like 1.3 ypc. no way is that accurate
December 22nd, 2009 at 12:09 pm
Draft wish list 2010
round 1
DT McCoy
OT Okung OKS
MLB McClain ALABAMA
OT Davis Rurgers
MLB Spikes FLA
OT Williams OK
round 2
OG Lupati Idaho
OG Asamoah Ill
DT Williams Tenn
DT Cody Alabama Dont know if he will fall
OT Black LSU
round 3
A) Alex Carrington DE
B) Stanley H. FB USC Wouls open the offence up
Rest best player avalable
December 22nd, 2009 at 12:10 pm
92 carries 325 yrds. 3.5 ypc avg. for Mc Sliding
December 22nd, 2009 at 12:14 pm
i got a ? this is bush’s 3rd season. he missed his 1st with injury. was he considered a rookie last year. i say no. friend says he was. he’s a rookie 1st yr whether he plays or not. right? i know in baseball, u could be a rookie 2 yrs in a row depending on service time.
December 22nd, 2009 at 12:18 pm
new englandraider Says:
December 22nd, 2009 at 11:39 am
i’ve been telling all of you that DHB needs to do the moises alou thing with his hands to soften them up. you know, PI$$ on his own hands like moises would do. hell its worth a try dhb. try it
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he should go one better…
after pissin’ on his hands… he could insert them into a pile of excrement… (doesn’t matter who’s)…
then allow them to air-dry…
then go have lunch…
that’ll give him the desire to catch the ball…
December 22nd, 2009 at 12:23 pm
[Comment From KoolKellKoolKell: ]
Jerry Do you have the nerve to ask Al Davis how he justifies keeping his job as General Manager producing an NFL Record 7 straight Double-Digit Losing Seasons?
Tuesday December 22, 2009 12:00 KoolKell
12:01 jerrymac: We’ll wait and see next time he makes himself available. And frankly, my gut feeling at this point is there will be no coaching change, so it could be awhile before that happens.
December 22nd, 2009 at 12:23 pm
LMFAOO pete. im serious tho. a lot of the latin players said pissin on their hand softens em up, helps eliminate blisters and stuff. its worth a try at this point. no?
December 22nd, 2009 at 12:26 pm
[Comment From Trur8rTrur8r: ]
Is Tom Cable’s job safe? If so what are the possibilities of bringing in an OC to call the plays. I just don’t like Cable’s play calling at all.
Tuesday December 22, 2009 12:10 Trur8r
12:12 jerrymac: Don’t know if it’s safe, but I think there’s a lot better chance of him staying than it seemed like at around midseason. I don’t see a new playcaller coming in. If Cable stays, both Hackett and Tollner are under contract for another year. You don’t bring in another coach, so one of them would have to call the plays. And I guarantee if Hackett was calling plays, you’d be doing what they did in New York and KC, complaining about how he’s too conservative.
December 22nd, 2009 at 12:26 pm
remember a few yrs ago, freddie mitchell (eagles) was doing an interview and said i’d like to thank my hands. donkey face shannon sharpe says u wanna thank your hands?????? u ought to cut them off. that was pretty funny for an azzclown like him
December 22nd, 2009 at 12:26 pm
new englandraider Says:
December 22nd, 2009 at 12:23 pm
LMFAOO pete. im serious tho. a lot of the latin players said pissin on their hand softens em up, helps eliminate blisters and stuff. its worth a try at this point. no?
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maybe… all i know is i ain’t shaking hands with anyone named emilio…
December 22nd, 2009 at 12:27 pm
brady quinn placed on ir. out 4 season
December 22nd, 2009 at 12:28 pm
so much for the jr bq match up we all wanted to see. lol
December 22nd, 2009 at 12:31 pm
I read that too fast and thought you typed so much for the jr BBQ matchup… I was gonna say, it aint hard to find JR beating up some BBQ
December 22nd, 2009 at 12:34 pm
Quinn is out? Their backup might be the only QB in the nfl worse than Russell….point being? Win this or you are fired Cable!
December 22nd, 2009 at 12:38 pm
i dont know dakota, anderson was a probowl caliber qb at one point. in fact he know he went to at least one pro bowl. no?
December 22nd, 2009 at 12:39 pm
NOMAR BUSH DAKOTA
December 22nd, 2009 at 12:40 pm
Okay…worse than Russell this season? Is that better New Englandraider?
December 22nd, 2009 at 12:41 pm
Anderson went to the probowl as an alternate in the 2007 season, his ONLY successful year. Outside of that year, he has been absolutely miserable.
December 22nd, 2009 at 12:41 pm
Cable should return as HC with J Fassell as OC.
If Cable stumbles out of the block again next year J Fassell is there to take over. Cable has no idea how to use a RB!
J Russell either restructures his contract or kicks rocks.
Marshall should be given free reign he has turned us around BIG time in one year. Rob Ryan has NOT been missed.
December 22nd, 2009 at 12:41 pm
e z dakota e z. whats ur problem? i thought we were cool man?
December 22nd, 2009 at 12:48 pm
[Comment From TimTim: ]
How confident are you in Cables abilities. If Al keeps him around next year do you see him going 8-8?
Tuesday December 22, 2009 12:35 Tim
12:36 jerrymac: Under present ownership, I’d rather have Cable than Jim Fassel/Marc Trestman/Kevin Gilbride or some young offensive coordinator looking for his next job and having no clue what it’s like to work for the Raiders. QB situation will dictate whether this team is .500 and beyond.
December 22nd, 2009 at 12:48 pm
4evaRaider Says:
December 22nd, 2009 at 7:08 am
And 408 Cable didnt use an extra Tackle as a tight-end.With Pears,Mario and big bad Walker the like was steam-rolling the donkeys.Fargas would got 190 EASY,there is your sock =)
^^^^^^^^^
This formations using Pears as a blocking TE….added a whole other dimension to the left side of that line on running plays. They can also use Pears on the rigth side.
Bush was very effective running out of this formation and Cable and Tollner better keep using that formation blocking scheme with Bush and Fargas to wear out the Browns.
DMC should be used more on the outside and cutback against the grain plays and in the slot and on screens.
Bush can also be used on screens more.
On that 4th down goal line play….I still don’t know why DMC just didn’t sprint to the pylon. On a pitch like that, cutting back is a futile attempt at scoring.
December 22nd, 2009 at 12:49 pm
[Comment From J-DubJ-Dub: ]
Has Michael Bush finally gotten out of Cables doghouse?
Tuesday December 22, 2009 12:36 J-Dub
12:37 jerrymac: Cable took exception to the perception that Bush was in his doghouse. My gut feeling, however, is the Raiders want more from Bush in terms of conditioning, which is a huge thing for a running back.
December 22nd, 2009 at 12:50 pm
new englandraider Says:
December 22nd, 2009 at 12:27 pm
brady quinn placed on ir. out 4 season
^^^^^^
Wow….lets hope D Anderson is rusty…
December 22nd, 2009 at 12:50 pm
[Comment From Bo Schembechler JacksonBo Schembechler Jackson: ]
Is Cable being asked why he continues to run DMAC inside and rarely puts him in pass patterns? Darren fumbles on 3.9% of carries – inexcusable – and trips on many others. A shoe issue?
Tuesday December 22, 2009 12:38 Bo Schembechler Jackson
12:41 jerrymac: ZBS calls for a lot of stretch plays and inside runs. It’s the bread and butter of the offense. All the backs have to run them or it becomes predictable. Once they admit McFadden can’t run inside, they’ve conceded they shouldn’t have picked him No. 4, and they’re not ready to do that. They have run him a ilttle more outside of late _including the pitch play at the goal line I thought was a good call that Denver stuffed anyway.
December 22nd, 2009 at 12:52 pm
i think bush’s conditioning is a big issue. he asked out of the game at least 3x that i saw. once after running for 10yrds coming out of the 2 min warning. maybe he has breathing issues. like asthma. who knows
December 22nd, 2009 at 12:52 pm
[Comment From NYC DAVENYC DAVE: ]
Hi Jerry. Do you think Cable will continue to give Bush at least 18-20 carries and DMAC at least 15 carries this week against Cleveland? Happy Holidays….
Tuesday December 22, 2009 12:46 NYC DAVE
12:46 jerrymac: You’ve got to have the ball an awful lot and your defense has to come up with a lot of stops to promise that many carries. You can identify a lead back and get him carries, but it’s tough to promise that many to two unless the game goes as planned.
December 22nd, 2009 at 12:54 pm
[Comment From KoolKell KoolKell: ]
Jerry What are some of the repercussions you and your paper might face, if you were to honestly, and aggressively challenges Al Davis’ performance as General Manager? Tuesday December 22, 2009 12:52 KoolKell
12:53 jerrymac: Ask Monte Poole. He rips Al all the time. He’s still employed, still has his credentials, still goes to practice.
December 22nd, 2009 at 12:55 pm
hopefully a few of those blades of grass that tackle dmac constantly will be in for a look. maybe they’re unrestricted free agents. sign those blades of grass asap. those boys can tackle
December 22nd, 2009 at 12:56 pm
KK is being himself in Jerrys chat room today.
Thats his fourth look at me question
December 22nd, 2009 at 12:57 pm
new englandraider Says:
December 22nd, 2009 at 12:41 pm
e z dakota e z. whats ur problem? i thought we were cool man?
___________________
Huh? What did I say to make you write this?
December 22nd, 2009 at 12:57 pm
Plunketthead Says:
December 22nd, 2009 at 12:50 pm
[Comment From Bo Schembechler JacksonBo Schembechler Jackson: ]
Is Cable being asked why he continues to run DMAC inside and rarely puts him in pass patterns? Darren fumbles on 3.9% of carries – inexcusable – and trips on many others. A shoe issue?
Tuesday December 22, 2009 12:38 Bo Schembechler Jackson
12:41 jerrymac: ZBS calls for a lot of stretch plays and inside runs. It’s the bread and butter of the offense. All the backs have to run them or it becomes predictable. Once they admit McFadden can’t run inside, they’ve conceded they shouldn’t have picked him No. 4, and they’re not ready to do that. They have run him a ilttle more outside of late _including the pitch play at the goal line I thought was a good call that Denver stuffed anyway.
^^^^^^^^^
DMC should have ran to the pylon instead cutting back.
If they stop running DMC inside…it is NOT an admitted mistake of drafting him #4 overall.
They need to get the ball to him in SPACE and let do his thing from there. Get him the ball on screens, bubble screens, pitches, wheel routes and use him in the slot.
As long as he makes plays in those situations, it is not admitting they made a mistake taking him #4 overall.
The lousy RB coack Kelly Skipper, needs to teach him to slash more and make people miss, instead of him tryin to run over people.
December 22nd, 2009 at 12:58 pm
dakota, u said is that better newenglandraider
December 22nd, 2009 at 12:59 pm
new englandraider Says:
December 22nd, 2009 at 12:58 pm
dakota, u said is that better newenglandraider
________________
Not said with any malice whatsoever…sorry for the misunderstanding.
December 22nd, 2009 at 1:00 pm
What quarter do you guys think Frye will get injured in this week? I’m thinking second.
December 22nd, 2009 at 1:02 pm
Get your combat boots, baby. We are going to the beach!
jerrymac: Through the last two games, I would think so, certainly. What I think they’d love to see is for Bush to really grasp the idea of conditioning in the offseason, be one of those guys who runs on the beach in combat boots like Ricky Bell (dating myself there), be very assertive and aggressive in terms of training and attacking his job like they want him to attack ballcarriers.
December 22nd, 2009 at 1:05 pm
What quarter do you guys think The Real Moronraider will go ballistic in this week. Im thinking first if Grads starts. Second if Fry starts and fourth if Jalastsecond starts.
December 22nd, 2009 at 1:06 pm
TTFN
December 22nd, 2009 at 1:07 pm
Comment From GGGG: ]
Raiders trading up for Suh…likelihood of that versus them taking a DB like Mays where they sit?
Tuesday December 22, 2009 1:01 GG
1:02 jerrymac: they’d have to trade up to No. 1 to get him. As for Mays, they love Branch, Huff is playing the best he ever has, and Mitchell is playing of late and still very much in their plans. How many safeties do you need? And I saw Mays look like a physically impressive statue more than a few times watching USC this year.
December 22nd, 2009 at 1:07 pm
Plunketthead Says:
December 22nd, 2009 at 12:56 pm
KK is being himself in Jerrys chat room today.
Thats his fourth look at me question
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How was that a look at me question?
I was trying to prod Jerry into asking the tough questions.
December 22nd, 2009 at 1:07 pm
Okay – bets on. Does bush get less than 5 carries in Cleveland with Fargas able to play?
December 22nd, 2009 at 1:09 pm
What quarter is Frye going to go down in, guys? And, how many of you will root for Cleveland if Russell plays, the way Kush, DirtyBathWater, and ArtShell’sClipboard were rooting for Denver last week when Russell was in?
December 22nd, 2009 at 1:10 pm
Its called hey, look at me because you ask the same questions and post the same things over and over and over and over and over again.
But I should not have to spell that out for you, you are sharper then that, heck, you sell used houses for a living.
December 22nd, 2009 at 1:11 pm
Fine, whatever.
December 22nd, 2009 at 1:12 pm
Merry Christmas
December 22nd, 2009 at 1:15 pm
[Comment From KWillKWill: ]
Jerry, What are the players opionion on Sanjay Lal and any chance he gets fired regardless of the Raiders record ???
Tuesday December 22, 2009 1:07 KWill
1:08 jerrymac: I think they like him . . . and if you think it’s Sanjay Lal’s fault that Schilens got hurt, Walker is past his better days and that DHB isn’t better and that a new WR coach would change everything . . . sorry, wouldn’t happen.
December 22nd, 2009 at 1:15 pm
Plunkethead, I’ll take somebody who says “hey, look at me” to a journalist over someone saying “hey, look at me” to Al Davis every time he gets wheeled by. People who admire Al Davis are just weirdos. EVERYONE other than his admirers think so, and I mean everyone.
December 22nd, 2009 at 1:16 pm
Draft wish list 2010
round 1
DT McCoy
OT Okung OKS
MLB McClain ALABAMA
OT Davis Rurgers
MLB Spikes FLA
OT Williams OK
round 2
OG Lupati Idaho
OG Asamoah Ill
DT Williams Tenn
DT Cody Alabama Dont know if he will fall
OT Black LSU
round 3
A) Alex Carrington DE
B) Stanley H. FB USC Wouls open the offence up
Rest best player available
Should be the GM
December 22nd, 2009 at 1:18 pm
Look at me wheeeeeeee, I’m posting other people comments on todays chat, wheeeeeeeeeeee
-Plunkethead.
December 22nd, 2009 at 1:21 pm
Plunkethead, what quarter do you think Frye will go down in? When Russell is put in, will you root for Cleveland?
December 22nd, 2009 at 1:23 pm
Bring back Tom Rathman. Pay him what it takes.
December 22nd, 2009 at 1:23 pm
no problem dakota. u da man.
December 22nd, 2009 at 1:26 pm
# raiderzmaverick Says:
December 22nd, 2009 at 1:07 pm
Okay – bets on. Does bush get less than 5 carries in Cleveland with Fargas able to play?
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Bush will get at least 10 carries, then even more after D-Mac fumbles the ball away. Then, Bush will break the all-time single-game record for rushing yards (after he runs out of bounds and breaks Mangini’s leg!)
December 22nd, 2009 at 1:29 pm
[Comment From JImJIm: ]
Did Marshall catch any balls with Nnamdi on him? I didn’t see any
Tuesday December 22, 2009 1:13 JIm
1:13 jerrymac: Cable said all catches were vs. zones. I don’t remember any either.
December 22nd, 2009 at 1:29 pm
All backs must run inside the tackles, otherwise you are predictable on offense. If a guy dosent gain more than 2 or 3 yards between the tackles, those qualify as good hard nosed runs “tough yards”. Dmac does make tough yards inside, this sets up the outside game. Dmac’s real issue is his health, we havnt seen the raiders be able to set up the inside out game with him, because he hasnt been healthy enough to earn the required work load. The last 2 weeks point toward him becoming a solid pro back. He is also improving in terms of patience, and balance, or breaking tackles.
December 22nd, 2009 at 1:30 pm
Maybe DHB should do like Juan Manuel Marquez before his fight with Floyd Mayweather and drink his piss.
http://boxing.fanhouse.com/2009/09/08/juan-manuel-marquez-drinks-his-urine/?icid=main|htmlws-main|dl5|link6|http%3A%2F%2Fboxing.fanhouse.com%2F2009%2F09%2F08%2Fjuan-manuel-marquez-drinks-his-urine%2F
December 22nd, 2009 at 1:36 pm
KWill – you are a moron. This site would be better without you if you get called out by Jerry for spamming the hell out of the chat session.
Show some respect, then again its clear that respect is probably something you have no idea about
December 22nd, 2009 at 1:40 pm
exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:
December 22nd, 2009 at 1:30 pm
Maybe DHB should do like Juan Manuel Marquez before his fight with Floyd Mayweather and drink his piss.
http://boxing.fanhouse.com/2009/09/08/juan-manuel-marquez-drinks-his-urine/?icid=main|htmlws-main|dl5|link6|http%3A%2F%2Fboxing.fanhouse.com%2F2009%2F09%2F08%2Fjuan-manuel-marquez-drinks-his-urine%2F
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we did that schit in the army… except we did it out of a boot…
i still want to freaking gag just thinking of it…
i gotta go brush my teeth… back later…
December 22nd, 2009 at 1:45 pm
Jerry wouldn’t answer this one
Jerry,
In your experience of covering the NFL, would you say the General Manager’s job is suitable for a non-ambulatory 80 yr old?
December 22nd, 2009 at 1:51 pm
After that story about Marquez where it was noted that he did it also for vitamins, someone asked if he knew about Centrum. lol
December 22nd, 2009 at 1:52 pm
Nice job of taking the questions to the edge KoolKell!
LMFAO
December 22nd, 2009 at 1:53 pm
Jerry’s no “hater”, I can tell you that, not even a critic.
His reporting seldom if ever leaves the field. The General Manager is clearly off-limits as far as he’s concerned.
December 22nd, 2009 at 1:56 pm
Thanks, ExLa.
December 22nd, 2009 at 2:05 pm
Too bad Quinn is out. I was looking forward to a Brady Quinn vs. Jamarcus Russell duel. “The Battle of the Busts”. Jamarcus may have had an LSU/ Notre Dame flashback.
Any word on Frye???
December 22nd, 2009 at 2:07 pm
After reading the concern about Micheal Bush’s conditioning, it reminds of Earl Campbell. I’m sure some of you old dogs would remember the way he ran.
He would get tackled, then he would get up very slowly, as if he just ran a marathon. He would look exhausted. Then he would go back to the huddle, get the ball and smash through tacklers like they were butter.
Bush reminds me of that. Hey, I’m not saying he’s Earl Campbell. But he just reminds me of that style, where he gives the impression of being tired, but can still run over defenders.
Campbell kept getting the ball all game, and come the fourth quarter, he would win the game.
December 22nd, 2009 at 2:11 pm
NorthernD Says:
December 22nd, 2009 at 2:07 pm
After reading the concern about Micheal Bush’s conditioning, it reminds of Earl Campbell. I’m sure some of you old dogs would remember the way he ran.
He would get tackled, then he would get up very slowly, as if he just ran a marathon. He would look exhausted. Then he would go back to the huddle, get the ball and smash through tacklers like they were butter.
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Yep, Jim Brown too.
But for Jerry to even go there sounds conspiratorial. Afterall he’s the 3rd string Back who is leading the team in rushing. C’mon Jerry.
December 22nd, 2009 at 2:20 pm
Conspiracy???
The Raiders????
Noooooooo…
December 22nd, 2009 at 2:21 pm
Good day all! This is just the kind of opponent that beats us. I hope the team is talking about that. We seem to let down when we play this type of team. Go Raiders stay focused for consecutive weeks and win two in a row.
December 22nd, 2009 at 2:38 pm
TMZ Sports coming soon to an pro ball player near you
December 22nd, 2009 at 2:43 pm
This is my best year ever playing FF.
I have three teams playing in the championship.
Radioactive Rabbits
Mighty Boneheads
Bloghaters
December 22nd, 2009 at 2:43 pm
Plunketthead Says:
December 22nd, 2009 at 2:38 pm
TMZ Sports coming soon to an pro ball player near you
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Not looking forward to that.
It’s one thing to catch a shot of Britney Spears’ woohoo, but I really don’t want to see Tommy Kelly’s junk.
Ooops, too late.
December 22nd, 2009 at 2:55 pm
Steelers place Limas Sweed on IR. sign Joey Galloway
why couldn’t we placed Nick Miller on IR & sign a vet like 14-15 weeks ago!?!?
bunch of circus clowns running the show in Oakland, i swear
December 22nd, 2009 at 2:59 pm
Nick Miller was being saved for the playoffs . Whats wrong with that?
December 22nd, 2009 at 3:00 pm
I like Erik Pears backing up the TE spot in emergency.
Gives us an extra hog to run the football behind
However, I hope Zach Miller & Charlie Frye are healthy & ready to start @ Cleveland
A TE is a QB’s best friend & security blanket. I think the Brownies are gonna bring the heat every play like Dallas did at New Orleans on Saturday. test our o-line & QB. Rob Ryan wants to prove Oakland was wrong for letting him walk & convince Holmgren he deserves to stick
December 22nd, 2009 at 3:00 pm
Just win, baby.
December 22nd, 2009 at 3:03 pm
new englandraider Says:
December 22nd, 2009 at 11:21 am
i with most of you, i think bush should be our main rb. however he needs too many breathers. after they came back from commercial ( 2 min warning 1st half) bush carried for about 10 yrds to around the denver 10. i jokingly said to my pops, “watch he’s gonna need a rest”. just being sacrcastic of course. next thing u know bush is waving towards bench running off the field. 1 play and the dude needs a rest? c’mon man. thats probably why cable dont play him half the time. does he have asthma? thats a serious ? too. maybe dude has some sorta breathing issues.
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Fine, run him until he asks for a breather. Then bring in Fargas to get his carry or two. Perfect.
Everybody gets to play and the best back gets most of the carries.
Bush is out of shape because they hardly ever run the ball as a team…..
How is Bush out of shape anyway? What is it with this team? Perhaps Cable should spend more of his time MANAGING THE TEAM and BEING A HEAD COACH and less on trying to be an Offensive Coordinator.
Last I checked, the Head Coach was a higher position than the OC
Give it to Tollner or Hackett and do your job!
December 22nd, 2009 at 3:07 pm
# Plunketthead Says:
December 22nd, 2009 at 2:43 pm
This is my best year ever playing FF.
I have three teams playing in the championship.
Radioactive Rabbits
Mighty Boneheads
Bloghaters
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congratulations…& good luck
Radioactive Rabbits R going down tho..
December 22nd, 2009 at 3:14 pm
yo
December 22nd, 2009 at 3:17 pm
yo
December 22nd, 2009 at 3:18 pm
lol
December 22nd, 2009 at 3:18 pm
These young players have to realize they have to stay in shape ALL YEAR LONG
Bush needs to do what jerrymac said and break out the dam combat boots and run up mountains, down beaches this offseason, dragging DMAC behind me untill DMAC learns how to run on two feet.
JR needs to put down the pie and work out, run, train, throw, study this offseason.
If they all work hard good things will follow. Al will get some vets to mix in with this young talent and the mocking shall stop.
December 22nd, 2009 at 3:19 pm
What up Raider Nation!!!
The problem with McFadden is that he is not a patient runner when running between the tackles. He tries to hit the hole full speed without waiting for the blocks to be setup, this also cause his fumbles, he gets stripped because he is running upright.
DMC needs to watch film on Priest Holmes and learn to setup blocks and hitting the hole. But he really should be converted to WR, he has great burst after the catch, that slant against WASH was beautiful.
December 22nd, 2009 at 3:19 pm
The question you have to ask yourselves is this; would it be better for Al to fire Cable at the end of this season or at 8 games or so into the 2010 season?
Either way Cable ain’t making it another full season in Oakland, so why not fire him when we might be able to hire a decent replacement instead of in the middle of next season when we might end up with Sanjay lal is interim HC?
December 22nd, 2009 at 3:21 pm
Tom Cable is going to win COY in 2010.
December 22nd, 2009 at 3:22 pm
Jerry is just doing his job, earning a check, supporting his family and he doesnt slap women around when he isnt twittering.
Why are you venting your unbridled hate on poor Jerry?
December 22nd, 2009 at 3:22 pm
KrappyKell, you senile old goat, do you have nothing better to do than hassle a beat writer with the same old question over and over?
Yeah, we all know you want Jerry to ask Al about his performance as the general manager. We know it keeps you awake at night and causes you to soil every pair of underwear in your drawer.
But why do you think hounding the poor guy is going to accomplish anything? You’ve gotta have something better to do, like update your real estate web site or make another payment on your Swiss chalet.
December 22nd, 2009 at 3:27 pm
I will answer my own question.
Its because you are f%#king nuts.
You cant get at Al so you take it out on Jerry in hopes that he takes it out on Al.
December 22nd, 2009 at 3:35 pm
Mr. JP Losman better get some reps, he is going to need them. Mr. Russell will get sacked and knocked out as he is outta shape, crazy this late in the season, I know. He gets sacked and gets the ball knocked outta his hands so easily. Are his hands any bigger (or smaller) than Dave Kreigs? Mr. Frye is still seeing twinkle, twinkle little stars.
Mr. Satele needs to stop bopping his head up and down (like John Elway always got away with) giving away our plays, he doesn’t do it every time, so I wonder if it is a tell that other teams gauge upon?! (Professor Eyepatch do you have any free time to follow up on this)?
Mr. Gradkowski should only play if completely healthy as he is clearly at minimum our solid 2nd string/backup for years to come, he has definately earned a legitimate shot at the starting qb position.
December 22nd, 2009 at 3:59 pm
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December 22nd, 2009 at 4:06 pm
# Florida Pete Says:
December 21st, 2009 at 8:18 pm
Pete’s Draft – 1st Edition
1st Round – Center
Stefen Wisniewski*, Penn State
Height: 6-3. Weight: 298.
Projected 40 Time: 5.13.
We should trade down to pick up an extra pick in the 2nd or 3rd and then take this kid. A real live, smart center with a little bit of a pedigree…
2nd Round – Defensive Tackle
Dan Williams, Tennessee
Height: 6-3. Weight: 327.
Projected 40 Time: 5.25.
2nd Team All SEC – I like big, mean, heavy loads in the middle…
3rd Round (1st pick) – Middle Linebacker
Micah Johnson, Kentucky
Height: 6-2. Weight: 254.
Projected 40 Time: 4.71.
2nd Team All SEC – I like big mean heavy loads in the middle…
3rd Round (2nd Pick) – Right Tackle
Anthony Davis*, Rutgers
Height: 6-6. Weight: 330.
Projected 40 Time: 5.24.
Big, strong guy… may not be there when we pick…
4th Round – Right Tackle
Chris Scott, Tennessee
Height: 6-5. Weight: 341.
Projected 40 Time: 5.43.
Big, strong guy… should be there when we pick…
7th Round – Defensive Tackle
DeMarcus Granger, Oklahoma
Height: 6-3. Weight: 330.
Projected 40 Time: 5.40.
He’s a medical basket case… but if he’s there… and he might be… we should take him…
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Three 1st round prospects in the first three rounds? Well, that about sums it up.
December 22nd, 2009 at 4:18 pm
# NorthernD Says:
December 22nd, 2009 at 2:07 pm
After reading the concern about Micheal Bush’s conditioning, it reminds of Earl Campbell. I’m sure some of you old dogs would remember the way he ran.
He would get tackled, then he would get up very slowly, as if he just ran a marathon. He would look exhausted. Then he would go back to the huddle, get the ball and smash through tacklers like they were butter.
Bush reminds me of that. Hey, I’m not saying he’s Earl Campbell. But he just reminds me of that style, where he gives the impression of being tired, but can still run over defenders.
Campbell kept getting the ball all game, and come the fourth quarter, he would win the game.
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The difference is that Bush actually is tired. Otherwise, he wouldn’t pull himself out of the game for a breather. He’s got large potential, and is definitely the team’s best HB…but his conditioning is just not good. He’s got JaMarcus gut, too.
December 22nd, 2009 at 5:02 pm
Fire KWill!!
December 22nd, 2009 at 6:25 pm
Someone asked what the heck Samson Satele was doing bobbing his head before passing plays right as he snaps the ball. He was turning his head making the correct line calls. Remember Barret Robbins used to do that. He plays because he’s better as a power blocker. And as you guys have noticed we had only half of the line zone blocking. Even then we ran power most of the time. That’s why we caught the Donkeys out of position. They expected us to zone, instead we ran a Power scheme. Injuries caused it, but Cable looks like genius because of it. and Don’t worry KoolKell, I 100% understand what you’re saying. You are a representative of our frustrated fans. Keep getting your voice heard.
December 23rd, 2009 at 5:31 am
Pete, I like the list, but the kid Davis from Rutgers is a BEAST and definitely will not make it to rd. 3. One can always dream, though. I’d love to see them trade down and get him and Williams early!!!
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