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Frye eager to show Holmgren what he’s learned

By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Saturday, December 26th, 2009 at 1:38 pm in Oakland Raiders.

Members of the Cleveland Browns aren’t the only players and coaches who will be watched closely by incoming club president Mike Holmgren.

Take quarterback Charlie Frye, for instance.

Frye played nearly all of the 2007 season and 2008 with the Seattle Seahawks under Holmgren, remade his game, and gets his second start with the Raiders Sunday at Browns Stadium.

With Holmgren having already determined he would retire at the end of the season with Jim Mora taking over, Frye said Holmgren called him with words of advice for his career.

“He was like, `You’ve taken all you can from here, because (my contract) was up at the end of the season,” Frye told the Cleveland media by conference call. “He said, `You need to go teach somebody else what you’ve learned here or go out and do it yourself.’ That was pretty special for him to say that to me.”

So Frye ended up doing both. JaMarcus Russell singled out Frye as the veteran who was giving him the most good advice as he struggled. Frye also was a fixture at the facility on Tuesdays, getting in early, staying late, helping with game plans like the coach he will eventually become.

Now he’s the starter for the second week in a row, recovering from a concussion which knocked him out of a 20-19 win over Denver.

“I’ve always been a ball player,” Frye said. “I don’t get caught up in all the off the field activities and the other stuff. I love the game. That will never change. When the time comes _ `Charlie, you can’t play anymore’ _ I’ll coach. I’ll always be involved in the game of football because that’s what I love to do.”

No one is quite sure how Holmgren is going to shape the Browns. None of the coaching staff knows their status, there’s still speculation that Holmgren could do the coaching himself. But if Holmgren were to beckon Frye as a mentor/backup quarterback, it’s clear Frye would listen.

Like Bruce Gradkowski, Frye is in Oakland on a one-year contract, and there would appear to be at least an outside chance of the Raiders parting ways with Russell as well if they determine he simply isn’t going to do everything it takes to be the team’s leader and franchise player on the field, off the field and during the week.

“I don’t know how those decisions are made or who makes them,” Frye said. “Anybody who has played for him would love to be back with him. That’s how great a person he is. That stuff is really out of your hands, and I really like it out here.”

Frye is philosophical about returning to a state where he went to college at Akron, as well as where he got his start as an NFL contract, which included the dubious distinction of being the first Week 1 starter at his position to be traded to another team before Week 2. He was dealt for a sixth-round draft pick and replaced by Derek Anderson _ who coincidentally will start for the Browns Sunday with Brady Quinn having gone on injured reserve with a foot injury.

“There’s nothing in the world that can prepare you for that because it’s so unexpected,” Frye said. “To be the first guy that’s ever happened to is pretty unreal, but coach Holmgren told me when I got to Seattle it’s all about how you respond and that’s how the rest of your career will go.”

Like Gradkowski against Pittsburgh, Frye will have a large contingent of fans rooting him on, but plans on putting the location out of his mind in favor of the big picture.

“The game is bigger than anybody,” Frye said. “It will always move in. It moved on when the greatest players retired. That’s the way I look at it. It’s a chance for us to win more games since (the Raiders have) since 2002. It’s a chance for us to win two in a row. There are a lot bigger things than what I want to do.”

Blackout lifted

The Browns announced announced a sellout today to avoid their first local black out since 1995. They needed a 48-hour extension to get the tickets sold.

The Sunday weather report calls for temperatures between 25 and 35 degrees with snow flurries.

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  • raidermot

    Charlie, Frye the Browns, please

  • raidermot

    was that a first? Woot

  • http://CableBumaye 909RaiderLifer

    Hope that everyone enjoyed a nice Christmas with family and loved ones.

    Hey BR*EN, good to see you back! Always enjoy reading your comments.. You bring some much needed perspective around here….

    Go get ‘em Charlie!

  • aig

    man, i will always root for a guy that appreciates his opportunity and is humble about it. He works hard at his craft and regardless of his result on Sunday I will root for him. I hope the Raiders go into next training camp with Frye, Grad and Losman. ONe of those 3 guys will get us back in the playoffs. Frankly, we’d be competing for a playoff spot had Al Davis not forced JR onto us. here’s to next year. We have enough talent to compete with top teams in the league. Now we just need to settle the QB position.

  • JaWorthless

    The game moves on and so will Frye, but at least for now just win baby

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  • primussuxxx

    Go Charlie!

  • Plunketthead

    The General said

    Plunketthead= Real Raider who has constantly went upside the head of that bend over betty 49eresque buffoon *itchochet in the absense of the General.

    Actually, I served the team by stripping therealmoronraider of any little dignity he had left after every Raider win. For some odd reason MR hates it when the Raiders win. Go figure.

    And every now and then I yank the chains that bind KK. His hatred for chains keeps him blinded to the fact that he wears them.

    But I am wise enough to leave Rico to the pros.

  • Plunketthead

    Cable just texted me
    He said he just slapped the peachfuzz off Manginas mug.
    He said he was paying his respects to Led Zep at the Rock & Roll hall of Fame when Mangina walked in and wanted to know where the ABBA section was.

    He says the team is fired up and said to tell VegasRaider to bet the farm tomorrow
    Raiders 38 Orangedogs 17

  • Plunketthead

    Am I the only one who thinks Mangina and Kiffin look like brothers?

  • Plunketthead

    The blog has been real slow over the baby Jesus birthday but its Sat night and tomorrow is the next to the last game of the year.

    If you are not blogging about the Raiders you better in solitude praying for them.

  • jano11

    I think Josh Mcdaniels more resembles kiffin

  • tuckrulefool

    unlucky 13th
    yeah!

  • Plunketthead

    Josh works

    Pappa Kiff is known for defense but it looks like he scores a lot.

  • JB

    # M Lonetree Says:
    December 26th, 2009 at 1:31 pm

    Need a back-up fullback? Give Tyvon Branch a shot. Said he’d play anywhere. Loves the game. Old school.
    ****************

    Seems like a better choice would be Our #2 pick this year, Mike Mitchell. A Power FB in a running alignment is a THUMPER. Mitchell is supposed to be the new king of Thumping so let’s see what he can do when he gets to blow people up on every play.

  • WenzhouRaider

    Why are people talking about Losman as if he has done anything. People already want him back? He has a huge arm and 4.6 speed, we knew that before we signed him. Why now does that mean he should be given the opportunity to start next year?

    Believe me, my next team after the Raiders is the Bills, Losman did nothing there. Lets not let hype from 4 years ago lead us down that road again. Grad’s the guy, just not this year.

  • El Dirty

    Merry Christmas!

  • Plunketthead

    Urban Meyer is leaving Florida

  • Nnamdi21

    Unless he completely slacks, comes into camp at 400 and is wearing casts on both arsm, Russell will be the QB next year.

  • Nnamdi21

    My new years resolution? Be kinder to my remaining hostages…

  • Kirk

    Russell is a stiff.

    Even Al can see that now.

  • JB

    RUSSELL TRULY IS THE NEWER IMPROVED RYAN LEAF. WHAT MAKES THINGS WORSE IS HIS TOTALLY UNACCEPTABLE ATTITUDE. HE REALLY DOESN’T CARE AS LONG AS HIS CHECK CASHES. HE’S UNPREPARED – BOTH MENTALLY & PHYSICALLY, HE’S UNWILLING TO PUT IN THE NECESSARY EFFORT TO LEARN THE GAME BOOK, HE’S UNWILLING TO LOSE WEIOGHT DOWN TO WHERE HE NEEDS TO BE TO AT LEAST LOOK A LITTLE MOBILE, HE’S UNWILLING TO ACCEPT RESPONSIBILITY FOR HIS FAILINGS – WANTING TO BLAME THOSE AROUND HIM, HE’S UNWILLING TO RENEGOTIATE SALARY BASED ON HIS POOR PERFORMANCE, HE’S SIMPLY UNWILLING TO DO THOSE THINGS NECESSARY TO BECOME AN NFL CALIBER QB. THIS GUY IS A LOSER – A BIG LOSER! THE BEST THING WE CAN DO IS FORGET THAT HE WAS EVER HERE. HE’S A BLIGHT AND TERRIBLE EXAMPLE OF WHAT A PROFESSIONAL ATHLETE SHOULD BE. LET’S START THE NEW YEAR OFF RIGHT BY KICKING HIS SORRY ASS TO THE CURB. THE TEAM WILL NO DOUBT BE BETTER FOR THAT ACTION. LET’S MOVE FORWARD WITH ATHLETES WHO CARE AND WHO WANT TO EXCEL BY DOING WHAT IT TAKES TO BE ALL THEY CAN BE.

    HIT THE ROAD JABUSTUS – AND, TAKE YOUR LOSER POSSEE WITH YOU.

  • http://www.Move2Alameda.com KoolKell

    The 80yr old GM produces this:

    09′ 3-8
    08′ 5-11
    07′ 4-12
    06′ 2-14
    05′ 4-12
    04′ 5-11
    03′ 4-12

    If he had any class at all, he be spending full-time setting up a professional, sharp, transition team

  • JB

    Sorry for the CAPS on prior message. Didn’t notice until I was almost done and didn’t figure anything having to do with JaBustus is worth doing over again.

    Good wishes in the New Year to the Nation Faithful. We deserve better than what we’ve received these last number of years. Maybe dumping JaBustus will be a positive change for the better.

  • JB

    Pick up Troy Smith QB, RFA Ravens and let’s let Smith, Gradkowski, Frye & Losman compete for the starting job.

    There is a future without JaBustus.

  • 01rdrfan

    I think if there is a good QB available in the 2nd rd like bradford than we should really consider picking him up. Especially if we have guys that can show him some real work ethic like Grads and Frye. We are going to have to keep Hackett as th QB coach though.

  • JB

    Why waste a #2 pick on another maybe. Troy Smith is the real thing and already a proven talent. He would have been the starter of the Ravens had it not been for a injury. We can ge a starter and his style is the same as Gradkowski, Frye & Losman. So, we don’t have to chage a game plan for a guy who only know a third of the plays, someone who can only go through a receiver progression of two and someone who can only see one half the field at a time. What I’m saying is Smith would be totally interchangable with the other three. Why gamble when there is a sure thing in front of us?

  • JB

    Troy Smith was born on July 20, 1984 in Glenville, Ohio. Troy Smith is the starting quarterback for the Ohio State University Buckeyes football team in college for 2004 to 2006. Troy Smith is the winner of the 2006 Heisman Trophy. Troy Smith was selected with 174th overall selection in the 5th round of the 2007 NFL Draft by the Baltimore Ravens.

    Troy Smith attended Glenville High School in Cleveland, Ohio where he was coached by Ted Ginn Sr. After a strong senior year at Glenville, Troy Smith was invited as one of eleven of the top high school quarterbacks at the elite 11 competition where he earned great praise. Following his performance, hometown favorite Ohio State took notice and offered Troy Smith late in the recruiting process. Troy Smith verbally committed to Ohio State late in the recruiting process over West Virginia University signing his letter of intent in February.

    As a freshman in Columbus, Troy Smith played sparingly as a running back and kick returner. Troy Smith entered his sophomore season as backup quarterback to Justin Zwick but took over as starter when Zwick was injured halfway through the season. Troy Smith won four of five games as a starter, including a victory over archrival Michigan.

    Due to suspension, Troy Smith watched as Zwick started the first game of the 2005 season and returned the next week for a big home game against second-ranked Texas. Controversy surrounded the game, in which both quarterbacks were given ample playing time. The Buckeyes fell 25-22 in a game that many believe was lost due to poor quarterback management. After the Texas game, Coach Jim Tressel decided to make Troy Smith the sole starting quarterback.

    Under Troy Smith, Ohio State lost only one more game in the 2005 regular season, to Penn State University. He threw for 1,941 yards and 14 touchdowns with only four interceptions. Troy Smith reached the peak of his season against Michigan, completing 27 of 37 passes for 301 yards in a 25-21 comeback win. Troy Smith was later named the Offensive MVP of the 2006 Fiesta Bowl after leading the Buckeyes to a 34-20 victory over University of Notre Dame.

    Troy Smith was also considered to be a preseason candidate for the Heisman Trophy in 2006.

    Smith won the 2006 Heisman Memorial Trophy on December 9, 2006.[10] He beat out sophomore RB/QB Darren McFadden (2nd) from Arkansas and QB Brady Quinn (3rd), senior quarterback from Notre Dame. Smith became the first true quarterback from the Big Ten to ever win the award. In winning the 2006 Heisman Trophy, Smith took 86.7% of the first place votes, which is a record. His tally of 2,540 votes was the third largest behind that of the 2005 Heisman Trophy winner, Reggie Bush of the University of Southern California (2,541 votes). His margin of victory (1,662 votes) was also the second largest in the history of the award, eclipsed only by that O.J. Simpson who won by 1,750 votes in 1968 and had the largest vote total of 2,853 votes. Troy Smith joined Les Horvath (1944), Vic Janowicz (1950), Howard “Hopalong” Cassady (1955), Archie Griffin (1974 and 1975) and Eddie George (1995) in the elite Buckeye fraternity

    Smith earned the award by leading Ohio State to an undefeated regular season, with high profile road games against defending National Champion Texas, and later against the Iowa Hawkeyes. He capped his season, securing his claim to the Heisman, with an outstanding performance in his final game against second-ranked Michigan on November 18, 2006, throwing for 316 yards and four touchdowns in a 42-39 victory.

    Smith declared for the 2007 NFL Draft. Despite winning the Heisman Trophy, Smith saw his draft stock drop considerably after the 41-14 loss to Florida in the 2007 BCS National Championship Game. At exactly 6’0”, his height was cited as a liability as was an NFL Combine performance that did not impress. [11] Smith was quoted by the media urging his hometown team, the Cleveland Browns, to select him in the NFL Draft. Fans also set up a website (DraftTroy.com) urging the Browns to take Smith. However, the Browns drafted Brady Quinn 22nd overall in the 2007 NFL Draft reducing the chances of Smith going to Cleveland.[12][13] On Day 2, Smith was finally drafted at the end of the fifth round by the Baltimore Ravens. He proceeded to sign a three-year contract with the Ravens on July 24, 2007.

  • JB

    Al Davis loves Heisman winers. Maybe that will bode well for picking Smith up as an RFA.

  • http://www.Move2Alameda.com KoolKell

    Gradkowski, Frye, Loseman, Smith, sure things? lol.

    The whole sack of them equals a backup.

  • 01rdrfan

    Ya, your probably right about wasting another 2nd round pick but if we were to sit someone who was that accomlished I think it could only do good. I mean look at what Brooks is doing for GB. He sat for 4 years I think and probably with little help from Favre. I’m probably wrong about it anyways but I would love to have another heisman on the team next year. He’s a little too small I think but hey, let’s see what happens. Is he injury prone??? Smith???

  • JB

    KK

    Your opinion. That’s OK. My opinion is that Smith would be a great successful starter for this team. Putting that all aside, I would hope you would agree thst ALL would be a better choice than JaBustus.

  • JB

    01rdrfan
    He’s a little too small I think but hey, let’s see what happens. Is he injury prone??? Smith???
    **************

    Tell that to Drew Brees! BTW, he’s shorter than Smith.

  • JB

    Gotta run but have a great New Year. Let’s hope we’ve got a winner tomorrow.

  • http://www.Move2Alameda.com KoolKell

    How many successful QB’s has Al Davis had in the last 20 years?

  • 01rdrfan

    Not many, that’s for sure!!! Gannon…..??????

  • http://www.Move2Alameda.com KoolKell

    Insanity- Doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result.

    Expecting anything to change with Al Davis in charge is insane.

  • 4evaRaider

    Good Morning NATION!!!!

  • 4evaRaider

    2 must have victorys coming up…..we MUST Break The Cycle

  • http://www.actionext.com/playlist_57486.html La Milicia Negra

    browns and raiders are pretty even when it comes to how bad or how good they are in certain areas…

    its a cointos

  • http://blstb.msn.com/i/55/90A2853B6CFBCC2AFC987BB18B832.jpg vegas raider

    I watched the Browns-Chiefs game last week. While it was a close game with lots of big-plays, it was amazing just how bad the teams were. Giving up 3rd and 20′s, special team errors, Chiefs giving up 300+ rushing yards, dropped passes and on and on…..

    Stay above the filth and we should be OK.

  • http://blstb.msn.com/i/55/90A2853B6CFBCC2AFC987BB18B832.jpg vegas raider

    So the great “O-line in the draft” debate will rage on today.

    The Browns drafted 2 O-lineman in the first round the last 3 years. One is a Pro-Bowl LT, the other is an encouraging rookie C. They average 2 more yards a game than we do, and are the only team with a worse passing attack than us.

    They are middle of the pack rushing the ball and giving up sacks. I hope we sack them 5 times and hold them to 3 points and furthur prove my point.

  • Florida Pete

    two good o-linemen does not a good o-line make…

    the Raiders with Gannon had Wisneiwski, Kennedy, and Robbins…

    and the number one rushing attack…

    2001 that is…

    then Kennedy had to quit because of migraines…

    the Wiz retired…

    and Robbins had a thorough meltdown…

    we haven’t been winning since…

  • 4evaRaider

    Vegas …I think a lot has to do with no one being afraid of their QB,sound familiar? lol

  • Florida Pete

    what made Gannon good…

    intelligence…

    competitiveness…

    acceptable skills…

    good decision making…

    preparation…

    fire…

    and when you look at the best QBs in the league right now…

    they all have that…

  • http://blstb.msn.com/i/55/90A2853B6CFBCC2AFC987BB18B832.jpg vegas raider

    We were a top 10 rushing team the last two years Pete. Only difference is that we had no QB.

    Our O-line is below average in pass protection and above average on run-blocking. How else do you explain being a top 10 rushing attack that features Justin Fargas?

  • Plunketthead

    LOL

    KoolKell Says:
    December 26th, 2009 at 11:48 pm
    Insanity- Doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result.

    KK, you do realize that you are describing yourself and your actions to a T, dont you?

  • Florida Pete

    what Russell does not have:

    intelligence…

    competitiveness…

    good decision making…

    preparation…

    fire…

    and when you look at his desire to acquire any of the aforementioned traits…

    you realise that Russell is not just a bust…

    he is an absolute waste of time…

    we should congratulate Russell on winning the lottery and move on…

  • Florida Pete

    vegas raider Says:
    December 27th, 2009 at 6:28 am
    We were a top 10 rushing team the last two years Pete. Only difference is that we had no QB.

    Our O-line is below average in pass protection and above average on run-blocking. How else do you explain being a top 10 rushing attack that features Justin Fargas?

    :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::

    lack of ability to throw…

    oh…

    how are we doing this year???

  • Plunketthead

    JR just needs to hire & follow a great life coach this offseason

    JaGrasshopper