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Final: Browns 23, Raiders 9

By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Sunday, December 27th, 2009 at 1:27 pm in Oakland Raiders.

Notes and observations from the Raiders-Browns game Sunday:

– Raiders follow big win with an awful loss for the fifth time. Scoring in those five losses _ opponents 142, Raiders 32.

– Raiders get in red zone again _ Charlie Frye picked again. Eric Wright gets the pick this time.

Raiders have 326 yards passing, 392 yards total offense. Three field goals. Should break 400 yards with one more possession for first time since 2005 _ and it will do them no good.

– They finish at 399 yards, barring late adjustments, Frye sacked with 33 seconds left as Browns will kill clock. Rob Ryan gets the Gatorade bath in snow flurries.

– Zach Miller gets taunting foul after 27-yard reception with Raiders driving. A ridiculous call. A pass interference call on Hank Poteat (makeup call?) gives Raiders the ball at the 2.

Raiders can’t get it in. Never once do they attempt to get Frye outside on a pass-run option.

Frye tosses third interception of game, this one to Eric Wright. May not have had it. Could be reversed.

– Phil Dawson’s 34-yard field goal puts Browns up 23-9, Raiders need pair of touchdowns in the last 8:31 and don’t have one today. A six-play, 31-yard drive following Brandon McDonald’s interception.

– Huge sack by Matt Roth against Frye after Raiders were moving well, Raiders come back with 11-yard Frye-to-Miller pass for third-and-9 at the Cleveland 24. Frye intercepted by McDonald, forcing pass to Higgins. Returns it 39 yards.

– Best downfield catch of the year by Johnnie Lee Higgins on throw from Frye. A 33-yard gain.

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235 Responses to “Final: Browns 23, Raiders 9”

  1. Thec07 Says:

    Fire Mr. Davis

  2. Thec07 Says:

    Fire Cable

  3. 24 Says:

    Charlie Frye

    C/ATT YDS AVG TD INT RATING
    26/45 333 7.4 0 3 53.3

    Great stats minus the 3 Interceptions.

  4. SnBinDC Says:

    Charlie Frye /= Bruce Gradkowski

  5. Thec07 Says:

    Fire the so called personel dept

  6. 4evaRaider Says:

    4evaRaider Says:
    December 27th, 2009 at 1:28 pm
    The Browns O-line played very well.I had J.Harrison on my FF team and each week this young O-line was getting better and better.Its no fluke this is happening.Joe Thomas and Alex Mack on the same line.

    WE WAS GAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAASSSSSSSSSSSSSSSHHHHHHHHHHEEEEEEEEEEEDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

  7. raider91 Says:

    SnBinDC STFU Gradkowski is better.

  8. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    What will Fassell do? Cable benched Al’s main man and knocked out one of his moles. Bottom line is that Al Davis will not pay you if you don’t do things his way. All Fassell can do is lobby for something here and there. He will not run the football consistently. Only two coaches have done it, Gruden and Kiffin. Look at what happened to both of them. At some point you guys are going to have to start thinking realistically. I know it’s part of being a sports fan to dream. But at some point you’ve got to touch ground and just see things as they are. I’m out of here. I will not ruin my day arguing with you guys. Have to fix a tail light on my car, anyway. Do not bother responding.

  9. GForce21 Says:

    # 24 Says:
    December 27th, 2009 at 1:28 pm

    Charlie Frye

    C/ATT YDS AVG TD INT RATING
    26/45 333 7.4 0 3 53.3

    Great stats minus the 3 Interceptions.

    ==========================

    53.3 is 6 points higher than Russells QB rating. Pretty sad.

  10. 504 Raider Says:

    I know we gonna be talkin all week about JP Losman starting final game. I just don’t wanna hear crap about he doesn’t know enough of Cable’s playbook to get in there.

    Cable’s What?

  11. GForce21 Says:

    Oh, not to rub salt, but crabtree just ripped a 50 yarder

  12. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    Dude Says:
    December 27th, 2009 at 1:27 pm
    Great…here we go with the SnB whos gonna come in here and post about Mike Bush over and over and over regardless of whether anyone responds to him or not.

    SnB,

    Yeah, we get it. You want to have Mike Bush’s baby. Now STFU.
    =======================================================
    LOL>……I guess the run Fargas crowd is alive and well.

    This Raider franchise is f’d

  13. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    First off, Al DAvis is the root cause.

    With that said. Get a real coach who knows who the best players are on the roster and doesn’t hold grudges and hold mediocre players on high.

    Cable is the worst coach the Raiders have had during this 7 year run of futility

  14. DarthPirate Says:

    Frye is pathetic

    Cable is pathetic

    Al Davis is pathetic

  15. Culebra Says:

    It’s the offensive line. They can’t protect. How many times was Frye on the ground?

    Maybe the receivers were not getting open but Frye was given no time at all to throw.

  16. raider91 Says:

    GForce21, so we got Murphy although DHB sucks.

  17. Plunketthead Says:

    Dam
    We kicked ASS in almost every phase of the game

    hehehehehe

  18. Glutten for Punishment Says:

    at least they actually used dmc the way they should have been all year.

  19. Culebra Says:

    Al, you fool. If you don’t pick a tackle, center, or guard on the first round you are an idiot. The credibiliy you have w/ your experience will be null.

  20. raider91 Says:

    Yeah DMC is great at dumpoffs, checkdowns and could be used as a WR, although he sucks at RB.

  21. Thec07 Says:

    Its all about the 40 time…

  22. 4evaRaider Says:

    WE WAS GASHED

  23. Thec07 Says:

    D macfadden = R Bush

  24. 16yearsold16yearfan Says:

    why throw the ball 45+ times with a 3rd string qb makes no sense

  25. Culebra Says:

    unbelievable! and next week they will beat the Ravens.

  26. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    4evaRaider Says:
    December 27th, 2009 at 1:38 pm
    WE WAS GASHED
    =====================================================
    You say that every week

  27. Glutten for Punishment Says:

    i bet they could trade dmc to a wildcat team for a late 1st or just use him better! hey look what i came up with cable, 1/4 of a gameplan. DOOSH

  28. raider91 Says:

    Thec07, yeah thats true almost similar.

  29. djohnnyg Says:

    Bush averages over 5 yds. a carry for the year.

    Let’s bench him.

  30. Thec07 Says:

    Diff between RBush Dmac bush has way more swivel than
    dmac.

  31. raider91 Says:

    16yearsold16yearfan, the reason why they probably stuck with him was because he was moving the chains, if he didnt move the ball i bet he may have been pulled out for Russell.

  32. djohnnyg Says:

    This was Cable’s defining game to make a case for next year.

    Nice job fatso.

    GOOD RIDDANCE!

  33. 4evaRaider Says:

    SnB…..

    WELL IF THAT AINT THE POT CALLING THE KETTEL BLACK YOU HIPPOCRIT….WHERE’S THE COMMISH FIRE CABLE THERES PRODUCTION AL DAVIS BLAH BLAH BLAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

  34. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    Bush should have gone 25 for 125 yds and DMAC should have had about 10 carries.

    But no. Cable throws the ball 40x with Charlie Frye

    What a joke!

    Fire Cable on Jan 4th

  35. 4evaRaider Says:

    GEE I hope I am as annoying as YOUUUUUUUUUUUUU SNB

  36. Chris in NY Says:

    – Frye’s INTs basically lost that game. Some really terrible ones too. The first one came inside our own 20 and basically gave them a 7. The last 2 came inside the red zone and took points off the board for us. Not to mention he threw 2 more in the red zone but was bailed out by the defender not getting his 2nd foot down and a questionable P.I. call on the other one. He was inches away from throwing 5 INTs, 4 in the red zone and 1 deep in our own territory. Some of them were really terrible too. The first one was atrocious. How does he not see that defender. He also talked all about this stuff he learned from Holmgren and Co. in Seattle. What? How to stare down a receiver and telegraph a pass?

    – Bottom line: we outgained them by 107 yards and lost by 2 TDs. What does that tell you?

    – Also, the officials were pretty atrocious but at least a few of the bad calls went against the Browns. But the taunting on Zach Miller was a joke. The first unsportsmanlike flag on Seymour was a joke which led to the second one and helped key that Browns TD drive. The PI call on Murphy was a complete joke but turned out not to matter since he dropped the pass. There was one key PI call on Chris Johnson where the receiver basically jammed his hand under CJ’s arm to be able to push off again and then left it there once he saw the ball was uncatchable. There was a questionable holding call on Green that wiped out a big 3rd-down conversion early in the game. I’d love to see what Routt and Tony Stewart did to get ejected. I’d be shocked if one or both were not completely ridiculous calls. I guess that’s why this crew was scheduled to do the 3-11/5-9 game.

    – How does Cable not call one running play on 1st and goal from the 3 on that drive that ended on a 4 and out? There was still plenty of time left there. Frye was shaky all game and you’ve got McFadden who’s usually going to beat the defense to the corner and Bush who can bull it into the end zone.

  37. 901Raiders Says:

    JLH is garbage. Cable needs to go. How can this guy start him over Murphy?

  38. raider91 Says:

    If Cable wins against the Ravens he will probably stay for sure though.

  39. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    4evaRaider Says:
    December 27th, 2009 at 1:42 pm
    SnB…..

    WELL IF THAT AINT THE POT CALLING THE KETTEL BLACK YOU HIPPOCRIT….WHERE’S THE COMMISH FIRE CABLE THERES PRODUCTION AL DAVIS BLAH BLAH BLAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
    =======================================================
    Ok…. 5-10

  40. 4evaRaider Says:

    wheres the commish

  41. Glutten for Punishment Says:

    901Raiders Says:
    December 27th, 2009 at 1:44 pm
    JLH is garbage. Cable needs to go. How can this guy start him over Murphy?

    =======================

    WTH happened to javon? why is he not in there?

  42. r8eray Says:

    It looks like we’re still in the top ten!!!

  43. r8eray Says:

    Draft pick!!

  44. raider91 Says:

    Russel Okung!!

  45. GForce21 Says:

    # raider91 Says:
    December 27th, 2009 at 1:34 pm

    GForce21, so we got Murphy although DHB sucks.
    ====================

    Murphy and Crabtree is better than murpy and dhb.

  46. r8eray Says:

    I don’t think he will be there when we pick!

  47. raider91 Says:

    yep thats true.

  48. 901Raiders Says:

    They are in the Christmas spirit. Javon has been getting free gifts all season, without any work.

  49. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    4eva,

    Your hero, Tom Cable, will be fired at year’s end. Al Davis will get us a competent coach in Jim Fassell. Then your other hero, Fargas, will be busted to 3rd string.

    Bush will start, McFadden will spell and Losman will lead the team to something better than this

  50. raider91 Says:

    Fugg it the Alabama tackle then, williams or something.

  51. 901Raiders Says:

    SnB, I hope you’re right.

  52. 16yearsold16yearfan Says:

    raider91 i wasnt even talking about putting russell in im saying why throw 45 times with a 3rd string qb when you have a rb with 5.2 yards a carry

  53. djohnnyg Says:

    But…Raiders will NOT beat Baltimore, and Cable is history.

    Fatso had his chance and he blew it.

    GOD RIDDANCE!!!

  54. vegas raider Says:

    Cable is an idiot.

    I thought he had no business trying to call timeouts at the end of the first half on D. 10-6, let them run the ball and concede and go to the half. Maybe call a timeout on 3rd or something, and he is using them right after 1st down. Kirk misses a tackle on 3rd and 18 (awful) and lets the back get the first AND OUT OF BOUNDS and than all hell breaks lose and the team falls apart.

    And not one run after the PI in the end zone? Not one draw to a guy who averages 5 yards a carry? Who does this?

  55. djohnnyg Says:

    I mean GOOD riddance. Freaudian slip? I think not!

  56. raider91 Says:

    16yearsold16yearfan, i saw them running it trough the middle and it wasn’t working so i guess the playcalling was at fault also, should’v ran thru the sides.

  57. djohnnyg Says:

    Vegas,

    CABLE does this, that’s who. He’s history, and it’s well deserved.

  58. vegas raider Says:

    At least the Dolphins game went over and the Eagles look good so far.

  59. 16yearsold16yearfan Says:

    bush was running through the middle fine he had 5.2 yards a carry

  60. djohnnyg Says:

    My only hope is I will wake up tomorrow and hear that Al Davis is dead.

    F him.

  61. djohnnyg Says:

    Isn’t Al supposed to be in failing health??? Well DIE already would ya.

  62. raider91 Says:

    yeah it was probably DMC who couldnt run trough the middle the guy sucks should be receiver RB only.

  63. r8eray Says:

    I lost my azz with KC!! Almost had it!

  64. 4evaRaider Says:

    yep Bush had some kind of production today,your hero SnB….you know the guy that cant buy a breath and oooh 1 more thing….your hero Bush cant get in from the 1 either

  65. vegas raider Says:

    Frye sucks.

    That was a Rob Ryan prevent he got his yards against. Nobody makes 300 yards passing look easier than Rob.

  66. vegas raider Says:

    That was an easy cover R8eray..good call!!!

  67. Plunketthead Says:

    16yearold

    Tell your buddy BHP to get his sorry butt back in here.

  68. Plunketthead Says:

    Only two Qb’s have throw for over 100 touchdowns for two different teams. Kurt Warner just became #2.

    Who was the first QB to do it?

  69. 4evaRaider Says:

    Besides SnB….dont you have a Viqueen game to watch?

  70. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    4evaRaider Says:
    December 27th, 2009 at 1:59 pm
    yep Bush had some kind of production today,your hero SnB….you know the guy that cant buy a breath and oooh 1 more thing….your hero Bush cant get in from the 1 either
    =======================================================
    My hero can’t get carries because Cable has no clue what he is doing.

    Bush will light it up with someone else next year if Davis is foolish enough to keep Cable around.

    then we can watch DMAC and FArgas avg 3.3 yds a carry on the way to another 5-11 season.

    Do you guys even care about winning anymore?

  71. raideredoutL.A. Says:

    bad playcalling, never established bush, 3 straight play-action plays when u aint running the ball plus not running it in from 4 tries inside the 2. it was ugly again.

  72. vegas raider Says:

    Warren Moon???

  73. Plunketthead Says:

    Heres a clue
    He likes to scramble

  74. Plunketthead Says:

    Moon is a good guess

  75. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    4eva,

    FYI, I am watching the Broncos vs. Eagles game

  76. Raider O Says:

    Brees?!

  77. Raider O Says:

    Brees, Moon, or Doug Flutie?!

  78. Raider O Says:

    Flutie Flakes!!

  79. Nnamdi21 Says:

    Frye looked more like Phillip J. Frye than Charlie Frye today.

  80. Roch R Says:

    Anyone who says we don’t need to draft O line in the upcoming draft, doesn’t have a clue.

    There is absolutely no depth on the O-line and it showed today big time.

    After this game, everyone has to be questionning Cable’s coaching capabilities… 2 ejections, the Personal Foul drive, and the play calling. It was a cold weather game in Cleveland in December, run the dam ball. Again I go back to O-line. The Oline got hammered today by Rob RYAN’s defense. (a side note, how many blitzes did Cleveland call at the end of the second half?)

    And finally ask question for JaMarcus, how does it feel to know that you’re riding the bench behind Charlie Frye?

    Go Raiders.

  81. r8eray Says:

    Start JP Losman!!

  82. Raider O Says:

    I don’t know why some of you are happy with BG or Frye. They are not the next Gannon! Not every cast off QB will turn into Rich Gannon. We need to develop JR, and sign a QB in FA just in case.

  83. r8eray Says:

    Maybe….Bruce Almighty might be ready!!

  84. Raider O Says:

    JP losman need to show something in practice to get another contract. I would keep JR, Bruce or Losman, and sign another QB in FA.

  85. vegas raider Says:

    Bruce threw 6 TD’s 1 pick and took 5 sacks in 3.5 games.

    Compare those numbers to anything we have had in the last few years.

    Bruce is light years ahead of Frye, who is only slightly better than Jamarcus right now.

  86. Plunketthead Says:

    Fran Tarkenton

  87. raideredoutL.A. Says:

    another long offseason ahead

  88. 4evaRaider Says:

    I dont know why nobody says….man the Brown O-line,they did what they wanted today and we got our azz’es handed to us.On Harrisons 1st td,he drove his truck through that hole.We couldnt stop them

  89. Plunketthead Says:

    The Ravens are soft in the middle

    Raiders 31
    Crows 21

  90. r8eray Says:

    116 days to the NFL DRAFT!!!!

  91. r8eray Says:

    Oh… and 3 hours and 5 minutes!!

  92. Raider O Says:

    We need a DT, RT, MLB, RG, CB, C, and OLB.
    We need to move Seymour to DT, and draft a DE also.

  93. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    4evaRaider Says:
    December 27th, 2009 at 2:22 pm
    I dont know why nobody says….man the Brown O-line,they did what they wanted today and we got our azz’es handed to us.On Harrisons 1st td,he drove his truck through that hole.We couldnt stop them
    =======================================================
    Because the run defense has been bad for 7 years. Nothing more to be said about that.

    The offense is inept because a combination of poor Quarterbacking and the coaches reluctance to use Michael Bush.

    Had Fargas been healthy, Cable would have ran the ball 25x for 65 yds. That would have been enough to win the game today…

    This team is a mess

  94. raideredoutL.A. Says:

    is the draft going to be on a thursday or friday next yr? or was that just an idea floating around?

  95. Plunketthead Says:

    Grad and Fry have proven we have a passing game.
    Chaz, Miller, Murphy, DMAC have all been able to catch passes, lots of em for this team.

    We have a lot to build on and the future looks bright.
    When was the last time a Raider QB threw for over 325 yards?

    What happened to Murphy today? I did not see the game but it does not look like he made any plays.

  96. vegas raider Says:

    MLB is a big need.

    See that 3rd and 16 wiff by Morrison on the Browns TD drive at the end of the half? Pitiful

  97. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    r8eray Says:
    December 27th, 2009 at 2:23 pm
    116 days to the NFL DRAFT!!!!
    ======================================================
    Till we draft the 4.3 40 cornerback from Florida

  98. r8eray Says:

    Brandon Spikes!!!

  99. Roch R Says:

    Vegas, Re 96 That was a horrible play! Morrison got blown up.

    Question is is Morrison good enough if this team can begin to play offense?

    Morrison is a local, he’s trying to be a leader, is MLB your biggest hole?

  100. r8eray Says:

    100th

  101. raiderzride4free Says:

    we MUST resign gradkowski

  102. vegas raider Says:

    Roch,

    MLB has to be one of the biggest holes. RT, MLB, and Routt has to be replaced.

    Lack of a QB is the biggest hole with the team, and any team that isn’t winning. Bruce added some stability and we competed with him in their.

    Need impact players at many positions though

  103. raideredoutL.A. Says:

    we MUST upgrade the o-line.

  104. Richochet Says:

    # raideredoutL.A. Says:
    December 27th, 2009 at 2:27 pm

    is the draft going to be on a thursday or friday next yr? or was that just an idea floating around?
    ======
    Round one is on Thur..round 2 on Friday.
    Idea is Al won’t know what hit him on Sat early.

  105. 4evaRaider Says:

    Ryan only needed 1 week 2 figure out Bush.If anyone thinks 1 player is gonna turn this around,besides Gradkowski,you dont know what you looking at.Langston Walker,the REAL HERO in Bush’s 133yards last week,went down in the 1st quarter.Oh Bush never did anything after that

  106. Richochet Says:

    # Raider O Says:
    December 27th, 2009 at 2:17 pm

    I don’t know why some of you are happy with BG or Frye. They are not the next Gannon! Not every cast off QB will turn into Rich Gannon. We need to develop JR, and sign a QB in FA just in case.
    =====================
    Are you are a freaking idiot.

    Develop JR? and sign a qb “just in case’?? lol.
    You take stupid pills today, or something?

    At the end of JR’s third year he’s the worst starting qb IN THE LEAGUE.
    Develop?

    Develop a brain, and try it again.

  107. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    4eva,

    Bush had 9 carries for 50 yds and the team was down by 8 at halftime.

    The wunderkind coach decided to give Bush 1 more carry for the rest of the game.

    But, hey, at least Fargas looks good when the Raiders lose.

  108. r8eray Says:

    We were down..and stopped running!

  109. Nnamdi21 Says:

    vegas raider Says:
    December 27th, 2009 at 2:27 pm
    MLB is a big need.

    See that 3rd and 16 wiff by Morrison on the Browns TD drive at the end of the half? Pitiful

    ===========================

    Morrison had a n all too typically bad day over running plays, getting locked onto by linemen and washed out of plays.

    His dumb azz audibles cost us time and again today.

    He SUCKS period.

    I don’t care if he has 100+ tackles, most of them are 5-7 yds down field.

    We’ve got the offensive “weapons” in the last few drafts, lets see if we give them the linemen to let them realize their potential.

    Given the risks of taking expensive O linemen in the draft and or FA, I say keep Cable and the ZBS one more year. Give DMC and Bush a FB that can stay upright and BLOCK and an interior.

  110. Roch R Says:

    Vegas,

    You’re right, there are tonnes of holes, but I just don’t think Cable is the guy. This team has some talent, but I think it’s getting spoiled under Cable. (T. Howard, Schillens, McFaddon, Myers, Miller, Seymour, Branch, Huff, Asomougha as examples)

    Cable may have been in the right place at the right time to even have the job. And the biggest proof is the O-line, his O-line.

    The real question is, is it worth it to go through another Coaching change. Could a new coach reach the #1 overall draft pick? Can anyone reach Russell? (besides Ice Cube, what a joke that was during the preseason! It is funny being a Raider fan.)

    But losing to Rob Ryan and the Cleveland Browns, (heck losing to Derek Anderson) stings alot.

  111. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    Priest with a good call on the radio. Correctly diagnosed Cable’s poor playcalling during the game and Cable’s refusal to use Bush. Atkinson, Flores and Pappa also don’t agree with how Bush is underused.

  112. Roch R Says:

    How hilarious is it that Gary Russell is our KR!?! How hurt is Nick Miller’s leg? Is it going to fall off?

  113. Richochet Says:

    # 4evaRaider Says:
    December 27th, 2009 at 2:36 pm

    Ryan only needed 1 week 2 figure out Bush.If anyone thinks 1 player is gonna turn this around,besides Gradkowski,you dont know what you looking at.Langston Walker,the REAL HERO in Bush’s 133yards last week,went down in the 1st quarter.Oh Bush never did anything after that
    ======================================
    Dude..why insist on proving you’re too damn stupid to grasp simple grammar?
    Did you drop out of school? 3rd grade?
    How is it an adult is so damn slow they don’t know about spacing after comma’s, and after periods?

    Yes, we know you’re stupid.
    We know you’re slow, pathetic, and needy.

    But why prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that you’re uneducated?

  114. Roch R Says:

    Imagine the game plan before a kick off….

    Cable: “Okay Gary, you catch the ball and run up 5 yards and just fall down. Oh and don’t forget, if your in the endzone just take a knee.

  115. 4evaRaider Says:

    no matter the players or how they’re used….Rob Ryans defense stoped us all day

  116. Nnamdi21 Says:

    Gray Russell’ blew that f’in protection assignment that got Frye’s azz sacked on that huge play. WTF?!!!

    I’m so sick of seeing scrubs like him and Lawton on the field so much. what a bunch of crap…

    Marcel Reese looked good but flung the damm ball around like his elobow wouldn’t bend. Lucky to not have been stripped.

    Lawton and Russell would not, could not make anyone elses team or practice squad.

    Same with that lum Cornell Green

  117. Nnamdi21 Says:

    4evaRaider Says:
    December 27th, 2009 at 2:47 pm
    no matter the players or how they’re used….Rob Ryans defense stoped us all day

    ==============================

    Stupid Raider play and penalties helped him…

  118. Roch R Says:

    Janikowski for the Pro Bowl.

  119. JaWorthless Says:

    Not to many teams in the league can overcome 3 turnovers on the the road. Raiders were in it until about the 5 minute mark.

    Frye shows promise as a solid back but not sure he is any teams future

  120. Nnamdi21 Says:

    # 4evaRaider Says:
    December 27th, 2009 at 2:36 pm

    Ryan only needed 1 week 2 figure out Bush.If anyone thinks 1 player is gonna turn this around,besides Gradkowski,you dont know what you looking at.Langston Walker,the REAL HERO in Bush’s 133yards last week,went down in the 1st quarter.Oh Bush never did anything after that

    =========================

    The reason Bush did so well last week was the jumbo package with Pears, Walker and Henderson lined up on the left side. They also had success with the fabled and under used 2 TE set with Miller and Myers. Myers was out with a concussion I think.

    Chris Morris should’ve played center and shuffled Satele to guard. Morris is incapable of getting a push in the ground game at guard.

    With Walker’s and Myer’s injuries, the jumbo and 2 TE sets were off the table early.

  121. Nnamdi21 Says:

    In fact, Tony Stewart, who could’ve played in those 2 TE sets ( he can’t block) was ejected…

  122. Nnamdi21 Says:

    Roch R Says:
    December 27th, 2009 at 2:50 pm
    Janikowski for the Pro Bowl.

    =======================

    Agreed.

  123. Nnamdi21 Says:

    JaWorthless Says:
    December 27th, 2009 at 2:52 pm
    Not to many teams in the league can overcome 3 turnovers on the the road. Raiders were in it until about the 5 minute mark.

    Frye shows promise as a solid back but not sure he is any teams future

    ======================

    Despite it all, they kinda were…

  124. stoopidmike Says:

    Did anyone notice the difference when Rob Ryan is able to unleash the blitz? Coulda been us. Im not saying Rob is great,but he’s better than Marshall,who looks good sometimes because of the talent on defense,not scheme.I never understood why Cable got the job over Rob at Head coach.Again,not saying Rob is great,but much better than Cable and/or Marshall.He deserved the chance more than Cable.Resume is much better.What has Cable ever done? Rob’s character fit out team,and our team would kill/die for that coach.Look how he was recieved today by the players.I’m sick of us hiring offensive line coached to head coach the team.These guys (bugle,shell,cable) cant even get a coordinator job,but we give them the keys to the car.WE CANT SCORE TOUCHDOWNS! I don’t care about wins/losses.We cant find the endzone more than once a game.Thats been the story for the last several years.WTF

  125. Richochet Says:

    Priest is still licking his wounds.

    His “boy” JR getting demoted down below water boy status.
    Then he goes on the radio and proves that it’s not that he has “typo’s”, it’s that he’s almost as illiterate as 4eva, sounding like a drooling, ebonics challenged fool who made JR speaking sound like a Rhodes Scholar.

    At first you think he’s drunk..then you realize he’s just a babbling moron.

  126. spellcheck Says:

    Richochet Says:
    December 27th, 2009 at 3:00 pm
    Priest is still licking his wounds.

    His “boy” JR getting demoted down below water boy status.
    Then he goes on the radio and proves that it’s not that he has “typo’s”, it’s that he’s almost as illiterate as 4eva, sounding like a drooling, ebonics challenged fool who made JR speaking sound like a Rhodes Scholar.

    At first you think he’s drunk..then you realize he’s just a babbling moron.
    0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000

    That’s exactly like reading your posts.

  127. vegas raider Says:

    I watched the game today with an old-school Browns fan at his house.

    He hates Rob Ryan already. His prevent defenses are epic.

    I doubt Holmgren keeps him around.

  128. stoopidmike Says:

    And when I say I don’t care about wins/losses, I mean that everyone is pleased with our wins, but they lose sight of the fact that we could barely score to win those games (outside of one hell of a 4th quarter).Its mostly defense/turnovers and field goals.When we lose, We still don’t score.I wouldnt be so pissed if we showed some life in our losses.

  129. Dark Forces Says:

    The D line needs a few more solid bodies. Shaungnessy looks great. Howard, who they converted to LB, looks good too. Warren is nearing the end of the line. Tommy Kelly is wildly inconsistent. We just need a new anchor and some depth in the rotation.

    LB are just ok as a group. It might be a good idea to let Morrison walk as long as we address the position, although we never really do.

    DB could use another corner. Tyvon Branch looks like a keeper. Mike Mitchell hasn’t exactly set the world on fire but I could see him coming around. Huff just can’t make crucial tackles, a deadly trait in a free saftey.

    O-line is very physically weak. We need depth. We need more talent.

    RB is ok. Bush is our best back. McFadden is amazingly ineffective.

    WR is ok. DHB has done absolutely nothing, looked awful and is a huge component of the entire team struggling. The “experts” were absolutely correct and he is a bust. Schilens is solid. Zack Miller is great. Higgins has lost his mojo on KR and is just a streaky WR.

    QB Russell should be cut and that money used to sign the best FA we can get. Bruce bring back. Frye, thanks cya. Draft a QB late rounds and sign a journeyman.

    Keep Cable. I’m not crazy about his offense but with no QB this team is a few years away.

    Draft both lines and a QB late.

  130. Dmac20 Says:

    Osi umen-whats his name is a free agent after this season the team should take a look at him, also I hat to say it but after todays game I wouldn’t be surprised if tom cable is done as our head coach I like him but the production on O isn’t there. I know we can alot more out of this offense than what tom has has, the mis-management of our rb’s and wr speed.): Hopefully al does the right thing and give up some control and bring chucky back. Because I believe chucky would be able to do wonders with the players we have on this team.

  131. spellcheck Says:

    Dark Farces…thanks for showing us why youre working the drive up window at Wendys and not any where near the War Room on Draft Day of any NFL teams.

  132. jhill Says:

    The best thing I saw today was Huff playing corner!

    Huff and Branch are BY FAR the most improved players on the team this year.

  133. Richochet Says:

    # spellcheck Says:
    December 27th, 2009 at 3:02 pm

    Richochet Says:
    December 27th, 2009 at 3:00 pm
    Priest is still licking his wounds.

    His “boy” JR getting demoted down below water boy status.
    Then he goes on the radio and proves that it’s not that he has “typo’s”, it’s that he’s almost as illiterate as 4eva, sounding like a drooling, ebonics challenged fool who made JR speaking sound like a Rhodes Scholar.

    At first you think he’s drunk..then you realize he’s just a babbling moron.
    0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000

    That’s exactly like reading your posts.
    =======================================
    You never answered me, slapped on like a little beyotch, boy..how pathetic do you feel when you know you’re sorryass is getting handed to you, where you then go out of your way, almost begging to get banned?

    Does that “well, IF I wasn’t banned, I would have thought of something to say that would have made me look less stupid” thing work when you and Norco are trying to convince each other you’re not losers?

    BTW…great retort….if you were a full blown idiot…
    In that case..great retort.

  134. 2romes Says:

    The Raiders were penalized big time today not only by the refs but by their coaching staff.The game plan today was atrocious.
    Coach Cable stated that many games in the past the Raiders could not establish the running game because they fell well behind in points to be effective. well, that statement does not hold fast today. The Raiders had ample opportunities to esablish the run today!!!!! On several occasions, Raiders had ideal field position and down and distance to establish the run. Today the Raider’s coaching staff chose (primarily), to win this game passing with a 3rd string Quarterback.The coaching decisions were abhorrent and a detriment to the Raiders success today and I can’t say that enough!!!!
    The Raiders need both of the best receivers at the same time on the field as primary targets.The 2 best receivers unequivocally are schilens and Murphy.Higgins at best is a 3 tier target and I feel he would not be a starter on any other NFL team. Do you remember J.Porter and D. Gabriel? The truth hurts and it is hurting the Raiders. If something could have been learned from the Raiders coaching staff, it should have been, if you give the defense an average offense the Raiders can win close games.The Raiders coaches swallowed an ostrich egg today without the chaser.

  135. M Lonetree Says:

    Bye Frye, fortunately we hardly got to know ya. (Guess that audition for Holmgren din’t quite go as planned. The Almighty “WTF was that?” came into play.
    Cable boy? He should slap around himself for cause.

  136. jhill Says:

    The Oline just really makes it hard for us to compete. Sorry Vegas, but Oline HAS to be the pick in rd 1 and 2, IMO.

    Best available Oline stud in Rd 1 to shore up the right side. It’s a flat out disaster from C to RT. And Morris at G just doesn’t work. He’s not even reliable as a backup OG. Why the fugg did we cut McQuistan again?

    Center in Rd 2!

  137. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    CAble once again elected NOT to protect the QB.

    45 throws? With Charlie Frye?

    Bush averaging 5.6 per carry..sure only 1 more carry for the rest of the game?

    Get a real coach

  138. M Lonetree Says:

    JHill

    O-line shoulda been the pick in ‘08 plus ‘09 so exactly how does that translate for ‘10?

  139. vegas raider Says:

    Jhill,

    If we do that, let’s just hope we have more success than Gallery-Grove.

    Green was a disaster today. He must be replaced.

    What about LB? No impact players amongst our 3 LB’s.

  140. jhill Says:

    Agreed 2romes …

    For every step Cable takes forward, he seems to take 2 steps back. That defensive penalty sequence the basically led to Cleve going up 17-6 was laughable! ANOTHER reason why Cable needs to take the headset off to be able to manage GAME situations and get in someone’s face.

    Adding an Asst Head Coach/OC is the only way Cable should be allowed to stay.

  141. jhill Says:

    M,

    You could see an argument for upgrading the RB position in 08, and the WR position last year. There was at least an argument. With those 2 positions addressed, no other real argument other than maybe MLB.

  142. LT_Raider Says:

    This game showed the decisions that need ot be made to improve the Raiders offense for next year.

    1.Cable: On the plus side, the player

  143. jhill Says:

    Vegas,

    I like Howard and Scott at OLB. Like them a lot. And I think they will be much better in year 2 of the Marshall plan, as my man SnB likes to call it.

    MLB? You know I wanted Maulauga last year in Rd 1, lol. My head just tells me that there is a plan for Ricky Brown in the middle, and I wouldn’t be surprised to see Norris and Dixon develop. You won’t hear my complaining at all if we could add a ridiculous play making LB to the middle of this defense. Just don’t think it’s going to happen.

  144. spellcheck Says:

    A play making LB that leads the league in tackles isn’t squat compared to a pair of DT’s that can stuff the run at the line of scrimage.

  145. jhill Says:

    Chris Johnson thinks he’s better than he is, lol. He’s a good corner, but he really needs to spend another summer with Prime. Seems like he really gets beat a lot when he tries to press. Would like to see him switch it up a bit and just play more positioning. I think that is going to come from film room work.

  146. SaintKaufman Says:

    Oh man!!

    That was pretty sorry. I guess Cable figured we could bring in the 3rd string QB and throw the ball all over the field.
    Hey McFadden, the entire left side of the field is wide open, make sure you bury your head in the back of the gaurd for a 2 yard gain!
    And why, oh why are we starting a FB on KO returns??

    I really thought that once Routt got tossed we’d have a shot.

  147. NoMoreFargas Says:

    Where are all the Cable guys at now ? If the team loves him so much why again do they play like this, he shouldn’t be allowed to call plays for a high school team let alone the NFL it’s a joke. I may change may name to NoMoreMorrison guy is awful how many times must he get blocked or just whiff, I don’t care he was a Raider fan as kid cause he needs to be replaced.

  148. Florida Pete Says:

    16yearsold16yearfan Says:
    December 27th, 2009 at 1:39 pm

    why throw the ball 45+ times with a 3rd string qb makes no sense

    :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::

    hey maddenraider…

    this kid is smarter than you….

  149. 504 Raider Says:

    Al Davis loves to be the first guy to do this or the first one to do that.

    Chalk this new one up for Al.

    He invented the 52 man roster.

    Yet we have a KR with a gut and his number on his jersey looks like two backwards c’s.

  150. Thec07 Says:

    You guys are on fire tonite…..Non stop laughter…
    Keep up the good work….

  151. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    So when we trade M. Bush….and his 5.6 per carry….will DMAC and Fargas be able to fill the gap?

  152. Thec07 Says:

    Do you think the “personnel dept” in the raiders organization think we need Oline, and Dline help?
    Not sure what they are thinking but, last 3 drafts
    we should have gotten this addressed.

  153. Thec07 Says:

    Thats just it, remind we why we drafted bush in DMAC in the first place when we had MBUSH who was a project top ten pick? Point is our “player personnel dept” is totally inept…

  154. Thec07 Says:

    Cable = Braindead…..
    I am for continuity but this guy is awful at playcalling… I know some guys on this blog can
    out play guy, his dimwit….

  155. jhill Says:

    Was Cable on the radio?

    Who starts at QB next week?

  156. JB Says:

    Here’s my campaign for the next Raider QB. Pick-up Troy Smith a RFA from the Ravens. We may have to compensate with a 3rd or 5th round pick because he’s a restricted agent. Let him, Gradkowski, Frye & Losman fight it out in camo to see who emerges as the starter.

    Troy Smith would have been the starter for the Ravens except for an injury at the wrong time. He’ll come to Oakland because he wants to be a starter – the way it should be. He’s a Heisman winner and has demonstrated great skill & ability. He’s not super tall but he’s still taller than Drew Brees. He’s extremely mobile but prefers pocket passing. He’s got a strong ACCURATE arm and he does have touch. Pick him up and spend all our draft picks on OT, MLB, OC, OG, DT, DE & CB.

    I predict that Morrison & Rhoutt, both FA will be elsewhere next year.

  157. Thec07 Says:

    So did we shut down the great DHB for the season?
    If that was cables pick he needs to be fired for that alone.

    Remember the bul about him being the most ” pro ready”
    What a crock of S#!T……

  158. Thec07 Says:

    Morrison can go… I am okay with that, he is not mean enough to play mlb for the nation anyway.

  159. jhill Says:

    McFadden was drafted to add a weapon to the offense, not a 200 yd back per se.

    It’s as clear a day that McFadden should be good for 1 or 2 TDs a game. Cable is just not using him right. Why don’t we see him go in motion to the slot instead of the outside? How about getting him matched up against a LB or S?

    So many examples of how this guy could be used other than HB dives. I would NEVER call a play for him to run up the middle. Want to get him the ball up the middle, call a middle screen.

  160. Thec07 Says:

    You can make a great argument over what side of the trnch we should draft. Thats what we need trench help on both sides, and a MLB….

    Flip a coin and flip flop the picks, and add a mlb to the mixture….

  161. JB Says:

    Why are we have a slow FB return kicks? Am I missing something? How about DMac, DHB, Yvonne Walker, JLH (maybe not him) or anyone else who is on AD’s track team?

  162. Thec07 Says:

    I remember the argument for DMAC, i wanted us to trade down or take ellis from USC. This year we had our pick of one of the 4 USC lb’s all of which are starting for their perspective teams, and yet we take the clown DHB….. Who makes up this S#!t on who to pick…
    I will take Florida Petes, pics all day and ride them into the sunset….

  163. Thec07 Says:

    JLH, that kid is shell shocked for sure. Hasnt been the same since the weddle hit…

  164. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    Thec07 Says:
    December 27th, 2009 at 4:23 pm
    I remember the argument for DMAC, i wanted us to trade down or take ellis from USC. This year we had our pick of one of the 4 USC lb’s all of which are starting for their perspective teams, and yet we take the clown DHB….. Who makes up this S#!t on who to pick…
    I will take Florida Petes, pics all day and ride them into the sunset….
    ======================================================
    Agreed. Someone should fax Pete’s list to Davis to see. At least he will have a glimpse of the right decision…before Davis picks another speedy player.

  165. Thec07 Says:

    SNB, Brother you understand 100%, its all about the forty time…..

  166. M Lonetree Says:

    Kijana Carter McFadden good for two TDs per game? Might as well have drafted Gholston for all the impact McFade has had.

  167. M Lonetree Says:

    The07,

    in defense of a semblance of saneness, F. Pete was salivating over Jaspar Brinkley last off-season and the kid was a nowhere man on the previous primetime. he wore a “rented goalie” sign on his chest if you happened to notice.

  168. Thec07 Says:

    M Lonetree Says:
    December 27th, 2009 at 4:34 pm
    The07,

    in defense of a semblance of saneness, F. Pete was salivating over Jaspar Brinkley last off-season and the kid was a nowhere man on the previous primetime. he wore a “rented goalie” sign on his chest if you happened to notice.

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    ROFLMAO……. Nice…..

  169. DKnight007 Says:

    Predictable Raider loss fellas….don’t act surprised.

    Cable must be one of the most inconsistent weird play callers I have ever seen.

  170. DKnight007 Says:

    # Thec07 Says:
    December 27th, 2009 at 4:11 pm

    Do you think the “personnel dept” in the raiders organization think we need Oline, and Dline help?
    Not sure what they are thinking but, last 3 drafts
    we should have gotten this addressed.

    ^^^^^^^^^^
    Well the “personnel department does have the Davis lapdof Hanson in there don’t they??

    Thats a joke!

  171. Thec07 Says:

    Brinkley > Morrison

  172. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    M Lonetree Says:
    December 27th, 2009 at 4:34 pm
    The07,

    in defense of a semblance of saneness, F. Pete was salivating over Jaspar Brinkley last off-season and the kid was a nowhere man on the previous primetime. he wore a “rented goalie” sign on his chest if you happened to notice.
    =====================================================
    Perhaps…but any pick would be better than the DHB

  173. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    Jeremy Maclin with a great catch in the game….

    DHB?

  174. DKnight007 Says:

    # jhill Says:
    December 27th, 2009 at 3:26 pm

    Agreed 2romes …

    For every step Cable takes forward, he seems to take 2 steps back. That defensive penalty sequence the basically led to Cleve going up 17-6 was laughable! ANOTHER reason why Cable needs to take the headset off to be able to manage GAME situations and get in someone’s face.

    Adding an Asst Head Coach/OC is the only way Cable should be allowed to stay.

    ^^^^^^^^^
    Agreed!

  175. Thec07 Says:

    Dknight007, The whole franchise is a joke brother….
    “personnel dept” = Mr Davis…

    Imagine this, Mr davis has to match wits with 31 other whole departments. these departments have young people who pour over stuff ad naseum. Moreover factor in the use of technology. Mr. Dasvis is outmanned, and overmatch before any season starts….

    Fire Mr. Davis, ends the problem….

  176. Thec07 Says:

    SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
    December 27th, 2009 at 4:43 pm
    Jeremy Maclin with a great catch in the game….

    DHB?

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Yeah Brother, and maclin wasnt as “pro ready” as DHB….

    The funny thing is the fans bought it….

  177. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    Thec07,

    Yeah, DHB was so pro ready. Played in a pro-style offense. Blah, blah, blah

    The Raiders messed up that pick PERIOD!

    DHB is the worst pick in the 1st round…maybe 2nd round too

  178. DKnight007 Says:

    hec07 Says:
    December 27th, 2009 at 4:43 pm

    Dknight007, The whole franchise is a joke brother….
    “personnel dept” = Mr Davis…

    Imagine this, Mr davis has to match wits with 31 other whole departments. these departments have young people who pour over stuff ad naseum. Moreover factor in the use of technology. Mr. Dasvis is outmanned, and overmatch before any season starts….

    Fire Mr. Davis, ends the problem….

    ^^^^^^^^^^
    Yep!

  179. Florida Pete Says:

    M Lonetree Says:
    December 27th, 2009 at 4:34 pm
    The07,

    in defense of a semblance of saneness, F. Pete was salivating over Jaspar Brinkley last off-season and the kid was a nowhere man on the previous primetime. he wore a “rented goalie” sign on his chest if you happened to notice.

    :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::

    he finished with 7 unassted tackles and a forced fumble… i didn’t see the game…

    so i’ll have to take your word for it that he was miserable…

    but just looking at the box on the game… the wheels came off the defense in the 4th qtr… that usually means something other than one player getting stupid…

  180. Florida Pete Says:

    oh, and i had Curtis Lofton the previous year…

    hack away…

  181. Thec07 Says:

    Murphy > DHB

    did we shut the great DHB down.

    Shannon Sharpe killed the raiders ths morning.
    They asked him a chrsitmas question, if you could
    give something back what would it be.

    He responded he would give back DHB, and Jruss…

  182. spellcheck Says:

    What don’t you immature, instant gratification obsessed idiots find a new team? … Or better yet, as smart, and sucessful as you all obviously are, why don’t all of you football Einsteins pool all of your wealth together and buy an Nfl team or start a franchise in Los Angeles…..it would be a Super Bowl victory every year with the brilliant insight, strategy, and scouting abilities all of you think you possess…..and you could do it one season…not like all of these other idiots in the NFL who take years to build teams and develope players.

  183. Roch R Says:

    What happened to Matt Shaughnessy in the 2nd half?? Did he get much playing time?

  184. Thec07 Says:

    Brinkley was having cramps that game as well. I would take him, and Floridas petes pick to the bank all day..

  185. Roch R Says:

    The Raiders, a committment to excellence,

    and the best kickers in the game!

    I think it’s awesome that we can all brag about the great Raider kickers, not much else but we got great kickers!

  186. Thec07 Says:

    Spellcheck,

    I allways enjoy the folks that come in hear an question others fan dome. I will humor you.

    So what do the raiders actually do right? Name one thing they have done right since 2001?

    Good Draft picks?
    Good Business decisions?
    Great orgabization?
    Players all want to come here right?

    Riddle me this, how come when players leave they allways talk about how bad things are?

  187. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    Hey Spellcheck,

    7 years of double digit losing.

    “I gotta right to rap about that”

  188. 504 Raider Says:

    Man BSPN is ripping the Colts organization right now for pulling Manning up 15-10 in the 3rd qtr.

  189. Thec07 Says:

    Instant gratification, wow we are 8 years in a row with a losing record. Thats instant right, per your decsription. most people on the blog want the team to win. so who here is into instant, explan that one please….

  190. spellcheck Says:

    Then ridle me this….why waste your time with the Raiders if you feel the way you outlined in your questions…there are 31 other teams.
    There are NFL teams that haven’t even made it to a Super Bowl…I am willing to wait for it to happen again….with or without AL Davis at the helm…it’s his team …period. I will not be the one to tell grampa to give me the Keys, you’re too old to drive any more,,, or time to go to the nursing home cause I don’t like the way you do things in you house any more…you pathetic, self centered morons will have to wait too.

  191. spellcheck Says:

    instant gatification,,,,as in unrealistic expectations for rookies and first year coaches…can you grasp that Einstien or should I make it simpler?

  192. spellcheck Says:

    7 years in a row …use the fingers on your other hand if you have to.

  193. Thec07 Says:

    Spellcheck, The question you pose was not a riddle, however i will answer your question. i am a fan of the raiders period. I also dont have my head in the sand about how poor this once great franchise is ran. So your telling me to get another team, your wasting your time, and mine. Its sort of futile to tell thinking individuals what they should do on a blog..LOL it boggles my mind the likes of guys like you, who question ones fan dome.

    So could you answer the questions i posed if you would???

    What have the raiders done good the last several seasons????? I will wait….

  194. DKnight007 Says:

    # 504 Raider Says:
    December 27th, 2009 at 5:02 pm

    Man BSPN is ripping the Colts organization right now for pulling Manning up 15-10 in the 3rd qtr.

    ^^^^^^^^^
    Probably the stupidest, ga yest decision I have ever seen. Coach Caldwell made a dumb decision taking away a chance at history from his players and especially at home??

    I could see Caldwell start pulling guys if his team was killing the Jets or if the Jets were killing them….but up by 5 in the 3rd and all they really need is one more TD then they could have pulled the starters up by 2 scores.

    Lame a$$ decision by Caldwell and the whole Colt organization. The players and fans were pissed.

  195. DKnight007 Says:

    # spellcheck Says:
    December 27th, 2009 at 5:12 pm

    7 years in a row …use the fingers on your other hand if you have to.

    ^^^^^^^^
    Oh and your an idiot……

  196. Thec07 Says:

    spellcheck Says:
    December 27th, 2009 at 5:10 pm
    instant gatification,,,,as in unrealistic expectations for rookies and first year coaches…can you grasp that Einstien or should I make it simpler?

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    ROFLMAO….. are you serious…….

  197. Dude Says:

    For all you who dont speak “moron” allow me to interpret what spellcheck is trying to say as I recently bought a “moron to english” translation book…..

    “I REALLY dont care whether or not the Raiders win or lose I just like being a fan because I think its cool to be a Raider fan because I am a rebel and like to give a big F U to the rest of the NFLs fans. Pride and Poise baby!!”

  198. DKnight007 Says:

    # Thec07 Says:
    December 27th, 2009 at 5:00 pm

    Spellcheck,

    I allways enjoy the folks that come in hear an question others fan dome. I will humor you.

    So what do the raiders actually do right? Name one thing they have done right since 2001?

    Good Draft picks?
    Good Business decisions?
    Great orgabization?
    Players all want to come here right?

    Riddle me this, how come when players leave they allways talk about how bad things are?

    ^^^^^^^^^
    Spellcheck is a lost idiot…don’t waste your time…..

  199. Thec07 Says:

    Spellcheck, with comments like the ones you make you are either a child or ride the yellow bus… In any event you would get roasted in hear for some of the buffoonery you posted…..

  200. Florida Pete Says:

    too many teams have rebuilt themselves in the space of just 2 or 3 years to think that it takes 6 or 7…

    by the way… half the guys that we think are good are becoming free agents soon…

    so how is that we aren’t patient???

    we are about to start rebuilding all over again…

  201. spellcheck Says:

    The Raiders look good getiing off the bus….there is your answer.

  202. Dude Says:

    Spellcheck will now exit stage left, juusst like the rest of the Al Davis butt smoochers do when called out.

  203. Thec07 Says:

    Dude Says:
    December 27th, 2009 at 5:16 pm
    For all you who dont speak “moron” allow me to interpret what spellcheck is trying to say as I recently bought a “moron to english” translation book…..

    “I REALLY dont care whether or not the Raiders win or lose I just like being a fan because I think its cool to be a Raider fan because I am a rebel and like to give a big F U to the rest of the NFLs fans. Pride and Poise baby!!”

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++==

    Spellcheck, like i said you have professional bloggers that lurk on this site, and wait
    for some unsuspecting idiot to post something ridiculous. and then they will lambaste you….

  204. Dude Says:

    Look good getting off the bus?? LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  205. Thec07 Says:

    the man the myth is here Florida F@CKIN PETE……
    Draftologist extrodinare…… I would lay coin
    Petes drafts the last 7 are way better than Mr. Davis
    and the “personel dept”…..

  206. spellcheck Says:

    Fan Dome??? is that some new arena?…or are you trying to make an uneducated stab at the measure of a individuals fanaticism??

  207. spellcheck Says:

    Thec07 that ain’t you.

  208. Thec07 Says:

    Florida Pete Says:
    December 27th, 2009 at 5:17 pm
    too many teams have rebuilt themselves in the space of just 2 or 3 years to think that it takes 6 or 7…

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++==

    EXACTLY……. If it takes longer something else is wrong….. Preach on Brother…..

  209. ohioraider Says:

    We’re gonna get this turned around.
    -Al Davis.

  210. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    Florida Pete Says:
    December 27th, 2009 at 5:17 pm

    we are about to start rebuilding all over again…
    ======================================================
    Exactly…and sobering too. A lot of folks don’t realize that the holes are numerous and probably can’t be fixed in a year:

    We need:
    QB
    RB – (if we stupidly trade Michael Bush)
    FB
    RT
    RG
    C
    LG – Gallery with multiple injuries, back surgery?
    UT
    NT
    MLB
    SLB – Does T. Howard come back?
    NB
    FS – Huff has to restructure $5million
    KR

    Gents…that my friends is a restruturing that hasn’t even started yet

  211. Thec07 Says:

    http://raiders.fandome.com/

    wow…lol

  212. Thec07 Says:

    rebulding for 7 years…I was told thats instant gratification, by the special guy…Per him we should toil for the next couple of decades…

  213. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    Thec07 Says:
    December 27th, 2009 at 5:29 pm
    rebulding for 7 years…I was told thats instant gratification, by the special guy…Per him we should toil for the next couple of decades…
    =================================================
    7 years of rebuilding and we still have all these holes
    We need:
    Head Coach
    Offensive Coordinator
    QB
    RB – (if we stupidly trade Michael Bush)
    FB
    RT
    RG
    C
    LG – Gallery with multiple injuries, back surgery?
    UT
    NT
    MLB
    SLB – Does T. Howard come back?
    NB
    FS – Huff has to restructure $5million
    KR

  214. Thec07 Says:

    Guys enjoy this year, one day the franchise will turn it around, but it wil require Mr. Davis to retire….
    I have all the love and respect for him but its time to go….

    LTR NATION…..

  215. spellcheck Says:

    Tantrum Time….I demand the Raiders be better and playoff bound …NOW …NOW….NOW….I know better than anyone how to run some one else’s football team….I demand it my way…or I will ridicule the Owner , the Coach, or the Players. …I want a winner NOW…..I’m too immature to realize or comprehend that the NFL is entertainment….NO… I pathetically build a large portin of my life around the success and failure of an NFL team…I shoot my mouth off inside of my social circle about my devotion to an NFL team and then have to live with the dispair and humiliation of facing those people through out the week when it loses.

  216. Dude Says:

    Rebuilding?? In the last 7 years what have the Raiders built exactly???

  217. Plunketthead Says:

    Spell
    I will pitch in 5 grand if Andrew can play QB

  218. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    spellcheck Says:
    December 27th, 2009 at 5:32 pm
    Tantrum Time….I demand the Raiders be better and playoff bound …NOW …NOW….NOW….I know better than anyone how to run some one else’s football team….I demand it my way…or I will ridicule the Owner , the Coach, or the Players. …I want a winner NOW…..I’m too immature to realize or comprehend that the NFL is entertainment….NO… I pathetically build a large portin of my life around the success and failure of an NFL team…I shoot my mouth off inside of my social circle about my devotion to an NFL team and then have to live with the dispair and humiliation of facing those people through out the week when it loses.
    =====================================================
    That’s pretty deep. No, just making observations and comments with like minded fans…..

  219. spellcheck Says:

    Thec07…how many coaches in that 7 years…come on you can count that high….with every new coach the “rebuilding” process begin anew …implementing a new offensive philosophy and gaining the trust of the players to succeed within those new systems…so stay with me here Eistien…it hasn’t been a 7 year rebuilding process…..by the way thec07…who turns your computer on for you?

  220. SaintKaufman Says:

    Wow, who invited this clown?

    SC, you are not seriously saying that Cable just needs time to develop are you?

  221. spellcheck Says:

    Who invited you?

  222. spellcheck Says:

    I never said anything one way or another about firing Cable…don’t read between the lines…your reading comprehension isn’t that good.

  223. Hot Shot Says:

    We lose week after week with play calling.Cable sucks at using our players the way they should be used from the quaterback down.We need Gruden back here.Come on Al get us are coach back.We want to win.

  224. 504 Raider Says:

    Hate to point this out but JRuss may have a point about showing up early to work.

    Our O-Line sucks.
    Our Play-calling sucks.
    Our game planning sucks.
    Our use of personnel sucks.

    What the hell is Cable and others doing at headquarters so damn early everyday?

  225. SaintKaufman Says:

    Free donuts!

  226. WenzhouRaider Says:

    Bruce woulda won this one. That being said, I don’t him running around on two bad knees like an octogenarian at his sonny’s barmitzva, only to be ko’d permanently by t. suggs or haloti.

    Ravens need the win for the playoffs. 5-11. sigh.

  227. SaintKaufman Says:

    I can’t believe Lechler didn’t flick that 61 yard FG attempt between his legs to Seabass so that he could run it in for the TD!
    What was Cable thinking???

  228. SaintKaufman Says:

    I mean, it’s worked for 2 years in practice!

  229. 504 Raider Says:

    SK,

    try again. No way Russell miss or late for that.

  230. SaintKaufman Says:

    LOL!

    Poor kid.

  231. SaintKaufman Says:

    45 pass attempts
    17 rush attempts

    WoW!

  232. SaintKaufman Says:

    1st and goal from the 2:

    pass to the left corner, incomplete
    pass to the left corner, incomplete
    pass to the left corner, incomplete

    I know, we got ‘em now. Mwahahahaa

    pass to the right corner, NO WAY, incomplete??

  233. SaintKaufman Says:

    Still, my favorite so far this year is bringing in JP Losman 3 days after signing him and running a pass play on 3rd and 10 in a 2 down situation when the o-line hadn’t pass protected since practice on Wednesday.

    Now that’s classic Cable!

  234. JB Says:

    Here’s what I’d like to see on our O-line:
    New OLT, Gallery, New OC, Walker, Henderson. Restructure the line for POWER BLOCKING – no more ZBS. If we can’t find the right OLT then take the best ORT and leave Henderson at OLT.

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