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Final: Browns 23, Raiders 9

Notes and observations from the Raiders-Browns game Sunday:

– Raiders follow big win with an awful loss for the fifth time. Scoring in those five losses _ opponents 142, Raiders 32.

– Raiders get in red zone again _ Charlie Frye picked again. Eric Wright gets the pick this time.

Raiders have 326 yards passing, 392 yards total offense. Three field goals. Should break 400 yards with one more possession for first time since 2005 _ and it will do them no good.

– They finish at 399 yards, barring late adjustments, Frye sacked with 33 seconds left as Browns will kill clock. Rob Ryan gets the Gatorade bath in snow flurries.

– Zach Miller gets taunting foul after 27-yard reception with Raiders driving. A ridiculous call. A pass interference call on Hank Poteat (makeup call?) gives Raiders the ball at the 2.

Raiders can’t get it in. Never once do they attempt to get Frye outside on a pass-run option.

Frye tosses third interception of game, this one to Eric Wright. May not have had it. Could be reversed.

– Phil Dawson’s 34-yard field goal puts Browns up 23-9, Raiders need pair of touchdowns in the last 8:31 and don’t have one today. A six-play, 31-yard drive following Brandon McDonald’s interception.

– Huge sack by Matt Roth against Frye after Raiders were moving well, Raiders come back with 11-yard Frye-to-Miller pass for third-and-9 at the Cleveland 24. Frye intercepted by McDonald, forcing pass to Higgins. Returns it 39 yards.

– Best downfield catch of the year by Johnnie Lee Higgins on throw from Frye. A 33-yard gain.

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  • raiderzride4free

    we MUST resign gradkowski

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    Roch,

    MLB has to be one of the biggest holes. RT, MLB, and Routt has to be replaced.

    Lack of a QB is the biggest hole with the team, and any team that isn’t winning. Bruce added some stability and we competed with him in their.

    Need impact players at many positions though

  • raideredoutL.A.

    we MUST upgrade the o-line.

  • Richochet

    # raideredoutL.A. Says:
    December 27th, 2009 at 2:27 pm

    is the draft going to be on a thursday or friday next yr? or was that just an idea floating around?
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    Round one is on Thur..round 2 on Friday.
    Idea is Al won’t know what hit him on Sat early.

  • 4evaRaider

    Ryan only needed 1 week 2 figure out Bush.If anyone thinks 1 player is gonna turn this around,besides Gradkowski,you dont know what you looking at.Langston Walker,the REAL HERO in Bush’s 133yards last week,went down in the 1st quarter.Oh Bush never did anything after that

  • Richochet

    # Raider O Says:
    December 27th, 2009 at 2:17 pm

    I don’t know why some of you are happy with BG or Frye. They are not the next Gannon! Not every cast off QB will turn into Rich Gannon. We need to develop JR, and sign a QB in FA just in case.
    =====================
    Are you are a freaking idiot.

    Develop JR? and sign a qb “just in case’?? lol.
    You take stupid pills today, or something?

    At the end of JR’s third year he’s the worst starting qb IN THE LEAGUE.
    Develop?

    Develop a brain, and try it again.

  • SnB offense defense specialteams

    4eva,

    Bush had 9 carries for 50 yds and the team was down by 8 at halftime.

    The wunderkind coach decided to give Bush 1 more carry for the rest of the game.

    But, hey, at least Fargas looks good when the Raiders lose.

  • r8eray

    We were down..and stopped running!

  • Nnamdi21

    vegas raider Says:
    December 27th, 2009 at 2:27 pm
    MLB is a big need.

    See that 3rd and 16 wiff by Morrison on the Browns TD drive at the end of the half? Pitiful

    ===========================

    Morrison had a n all too typically bad day over running plays, getting locked onto by linemen and washed out of plays.

    His dumb azz audibles cost us time and again today.

    He SUCKS period.

    I don’t care if he has 100+ tackles, most of them are 5-7 yds down field.

    We’ve got the offensive “weapons” in the last few drafts, lets see if we give them the linemen to let them realize their potential.

    Given the risks of taking expensive O linemen in the draft and or FA, I say keep Cable and the ZBS one more year. Give DMC and Bush a FB that can stay upright and BLOCK and an interior.

  • Roch R

    Vegas,

    You’re right, there are tonnes of holes, but I just don’t think Cable is the guy. This team has some talent, but I think it’s getting spoiled under Cable. (T. Howard, Schillens, McFaddon, Myers, Miller, Seymour, Branch, Huff, Asomougha as examples)

    Cable may have been in the right place at the right time to even have the job. And the biggest proof is the O-line, his O-line.

    The real question is, is it worth it to go through another Coaching change. Could a new coach reach the #1 overall draft pick? Can anyone reach Russell? (besides Ice Cube, what a joke that was during the preseason! It is funny being a Raider fan.)

    But losing to Rob Ryan and the Cleveland Browns, (heck losing to Derek Anderson) stings alot.

  • SnB offense defense specialteams

    Priest with a good call on the radio. Correctly diagnosed Cable’s poor playcalling during the game and Cable’s refusal to use Bush. Atkinson, Flores and Pappa also don’t agree with how Bush is underused.

  • Roch R

    How hilarious is it that Gary Russell is our KR!?! How hurt is Nick Miller’s leg? Is it going to fall off?

  • Richochet

    # 4evaRaider Says:
    December 27th, 2009 at 2:36 pm

    Ryan only needed 1 week 2 figure out Bush.If anyone thinks 1 player is gonna turn this around,besides Gradkowski,you dont know what you looking at.Langston Walker,the REAL HERO in Bush’s 133yards last week,went down in the 1st quarter.Oh Bush never did anything after that
    ======================================
    Dude..why insist on proving you’re too damn stupid to grasp simple grammar?
    Did you drop out of school? 3rd grade?
    How is it an adult is so damn slow they don’t know about spacing after comma’s, and after periods?

    Yes, we know you’re stupid.
    We know you’re slow, pathetic, and needy.

    But why prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that you’re uneducated?

  • Roch R

    Imagine the game plan before a kick off….

    Cable: “Okay Gary, you catch the ball and run up 5 yards and just fall down. Oh and don’t forget, if your in the endzone just take a knee.

  • 4evaRaider

    no matter the players or how they’re used….Rob Ryans defense stoped us all day

  • Nnamdi21

    Gray Russell’ blew that f’in protection assignment that got Frye’s azz sacked on that huge play. WTF?!!!

    I’m so sick of seeing scrubs like him and Lawton on the field so much. what a bunch of crap…

    Marcel Reese looked good but flung the damm ball around like his elobow wouldn’t bend. Lucky to not have been stripped.

    Lawton and Russell would not, could not make anyone elses team or practice squad.

    Same with that lum Cornell Green

  • Nnamdi21

    4evaRaider Says:
    December 27th, 2009 at 2:47 pm
    no matter the players or how they’re used….Rob Ryans defense stoped us all day

    ==============================

    Stupid Raider play and penalties helped him…

  • Roch R

    Janikowski for the Pro Bowl.

  • JaWorthless

    Not to many teams in the league can overcome 3 turnovers on the the road. Raiders were in it until about the 5 minute mark.

    Frye shows promise as a solid back but not sure he is any teams future

  • Nnamdi21

    # 4evaRaider Says:
    December 27th, 2009 at 2:36 pm

    Ryan only needed 1 week 2 figure out Bush.If anyone thinks 1 player is gonna turn this around,besides Gradkowski,you dont know what you looking at.Langston Walker,the REAL HERO in Bush’s 133yards last week,went down in the 1st quarter.Oh Bush never did anything after that

    =========================

    The reason Bush did so well last week was the jumbo package with Pears, Walker and Henderson lined up on the left side. They also had success with the fabled and under used 2 TE set with Miller and Myers. Myers was out with a concussion I think.

    Chris Morris should’ve played center and shuffled Satele to guard. Morris is incapable of getting a push in the ground game at guard.

    With Walker’s and Myer’s injuries, the jumbo and 2 TE sets were off the table early.

  • Nnamdi21

    In fact, Tony Stewart, who could’ve played in those 2 TE sets ( he can’t block) was ejected…

  • Nnamdi21

    Roch R Says:
    December 27th, 2009 at 2:50 pm
    Janikowski for the Pro Bowl.

    =======================

    Agreed.

  • Nnamdi21

    JaWorthless Says:
    December 27th, 2009 at 2:52 pm
    Not to many teams in the league can overcome 3 turnovers on the the road. Raiders were in it until about the 5 minute mark.

    Frye shows promise as a solid back but not sure he is any teams future

    ======================

    Despite it all, they kinda were…

  • stoopidmike

    Did anyone notice the difference when Rob Ryan is able to unleash the blitz? Coulda been us. Im not saying Rob is great,but he’s better than Marshall,who looks good sometimes because of the talent on defense,not scheme.I never understood why Cable got the job over Rob at Head coach.Again,not saying Rob is great,but much better than Cable and/or Marshall.He deserved the chance more than Cable.Resume is much better.What has Cable ever done? Rob’s character fit out team,and our team would kill/die for that coach.Look how he was recieved today by the players.I’m sick of us hiring offensive line coached to head coach the team.These guys (bugle,shell,cable) cant even get a coordinator job,but we give them the keys to the car.WE CANT SCORE TOUCHDOWNS! I don’t care about wins/losses.We cant find the endzone more than once a game.Thats been the story for the last several years.WTF

  • Richochet

    Priest is still licking his wounds.

    His “boy” JR getting demoted down below water boy status.
    Then he goes on the radio and proves that it’s not that he has “typo’s”, it’s that he’s almost as illiterate as 4eva, sounding like a drooling, ebonics challenged fool who made JR speaking sound like a Rhodes Scholar.

    At first you think he’s drunk..then you realize he’s just a babbling moron.

  • spellcheck

    Richochet Says:
    December 27th, 2009 at 3:00 pm
    Priest is still licking his wounds.

    His “boy” JR getting demoted down below water boy status.
    Then he goes on the radio and proves that it’s not that he has “typo’s”, it’s that he’s almost as illiterate as 4eva, sounding like a drooling, ebonics challenged fool who made JR speaking sound like a Rhodes Scholar.

    At first you think he’s drunk..then you realize he’s just a babbling moron.
    0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000

    That’s exactly like reading your posts.

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    I watched the game today with an old-school Browns fan at his house.

    He hates Rob Ryan already. His prevent defenses are epic.

    I doubt Holmgren keeps him around.

  • stoopidmike

    And when I say I don’t care about wins/losses, I mean that everyone is pleased with our wins, but they lose sight of the fact that we could barely score to win those games (outside of one hell of a 4th quarter).Its mostly defense/turnovers and field goals.When we lose, We still don’t score.I wouldnt be so pissed if we showed some life in our losses.

  • Dark Forces

    The D line needs a few more solid bodies. Shaungnessy looks great. Howard, who they converted to LB, looks good too. Warren is nearing the end of the line. Tommy Kelly is wildly inconsistent. We just need a new anchor and some depth in the rotation.

    LB are just ok as a group. It might be a good idea to let Morrison walk as long as we address the position, although we never really do.

    DB could use another corner. Tyvon Branch looks like a keeper. Mike Mitchell hasn’t exactly set the world on fire but I could see him coming around. Huff just can’t make crucial tackles, a deadly trait in a free saftey.

    O-line is very physically weak. We need depth. We need more talent.

    RB is ok. Bush is our best back. McFadden is amazingly ineffective.

    WR is ok. DHB has done absolutely nothing, looked awful and is a huge component of the entire team struggling. The “experts” were absolutely correct and he is a bust. Schilens is solid. Zack Miller is great. Higgins has lost his mojo on KR and is just a streaky WR.

    QB Russell should be cut and that money used to sign the best FA we can get. Bruce bring back. Frye, thanks cya. Draft a QB late rounds and sign a journeyman.

    Keep Cable. I’m not crazy about his offense but with no QB this team is a few years away.

    Draft both lines and a QB late.

  • Dmac20

    Osi umen-whats his name is a free agent after this season the team should take a look at him, also I hat to say it but after todays game I wouldn’t be surprised if tom cable is done as our head coach I like him but the production on O isn’t there. I know we can alot more out of this offense than what tom has has, the mis-management of our rb’s and wr speed.): Hopefully al does the right thing and give up some control and bring chucky back. Because I believe chucky would be able to do wonders with the players we have on this team.

  • spellcheck

    Dark Farces…thanks for showing us why youre working the drive up window at Wendys and not any where near the War Room on Draft Day of any NFL teams.

  • jhill

    The best thing I saw today was Huff playing corner!

    Huff and Branch are BY FAR the most improved players on the team this year.

  • Richochet

    # spellcheck Says:
    December 27th, 2009 at 3:02 pm

    Richochet Says:
    December 27th, 2009 at 3:00 pm
    Priest is still licking his wounds.

    His “boy” JR getting demoted down below water boy status.
    Then he goes on the radio and proves that it’s not that he has “typo’s”, it’s that he’s almost as illiterate as 4eva, sounding like a drooling, ebonics challenged fool who made JR speaking sound like a Rhodes Scholar.

    At first you think he’s drunk..then you realize he’s just a babbling moron.
    0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000

    That’s exactly like reading your posts.
    =======================================
    You never answered me, slapped on like a little beyotch, boy..how pathetic do you feel when you know you’re sorryass is getting handed to you, where you then go out of your way, almost begging to get banned?

    Does that “well, IF I wasn’t banned, I would have thought of something to say that would have made me look less stupid” thing work when you and Norco are trying to convince each other you’re not losers?

    BTW…great retort….if you were a full blown idiot…
    In that case..great retort.

  • 2romes

    The Raiders were penalized big time today not only by the refs but by their coaching staff.The game plan today was atrocious.
    Coach Cable stated that many games in the past the Raiders could not establish the running game because they fell well behind in points to be effective. well, that statement does not hold fast today. The Raiders had ample opportunities to esablish the run today!!!!! On several occasions, Raiders had ideal field position and down and distance to establish the run. Today the Raider’s coaching staff chose (primarily), to win this game passing with a 3rd string Quarterback.The coaching decisions were abhorrent and a detriment to the Raiders success today and I can’t say that enough!!!!
    The Raiders need both of the best receivers at the same time on the field as primary targets.The 2 best receivers unequivocally are schilens and Murphy.Higgins at best is a 3 tier target and I feel he would not be a starter on any other NFL team. Do you remember J.Porter and D. Gabriel? The truth hurts and it is hurting the Raiders. If something could have been learned from the Raiders coaching staff, it should have been, if you give the defense an average offense the Raiders can win close games.The Raiders coaches swallowed an ostrich egg today without the chaser.

  • M Lonetree

    Bye Frye, fortunately we hardly got to know ya. (Guess that audition for Holmgren din’t quite go as planned. The Almighty “WTF was that?” came into play.
    Cable boy? He should slap around himself for cause.

  • jhill

    The Oline just really makes it hard for us to compete. Sorry Vegas, but Oline HAS to be the pick in rd 1 and 2, IMO.

    Best available Oline stud in Rd 1 to shore up the right side. It’s a flat out disaster from C to RT. And Morris at G just doesn’t work. He’s not even reliable as a backup OG. Why the fugg did we cut McQuistan again?

    Center in Rd 2!

  • SnB offense defense specialteams

    CAble once again elected NOT to protect the QB.

    45 throws? With Charlie Frye?

    Bush averaging 5.6 per carry..sure only 1 more carry for the rest of the game?

    Get a real coach

  • M Lonetree

    JHill

    O-line shoulda been the pick in ’08 plus ’09 so exactly how does that translate for ’10?

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    Jhill,

    If we do that, let’s just hope we have more success than Gallery-Grove.

    Green was a disaster today. He must be replaced.

    What about LB? No impact players amongst our 3 LB’s.

  • jhill

    Agreed 2romes …

    For every step Cable takes forward, he seems to take 2 steps back. That defensive penalty sequence the basically led to Cleve going up 17-6 was laughable! ANOTHER reason why Cable needs to take the headset off to be able to manage GAME situations and get in someone’s face.

    Adding an Asst Head Coach/OC is the only way Cable should be allowed to stay.

  • jhill

    M,

    You could see an argument for upgrading the RB position in 08, and the WR position last year. There was at least an argument. With those 2 positions addressed, no other real argument other than maybe MLB.

  • LT_Raider

    This game showed the decisions that need ot be made to improve the Raiders offense for next year.

    1.Cable: On the plus side, the player

  • jhill

    Vegas,

    I like Howard and Scott at OLB. Like them a lot. And I think they will be much better in year 2 of the Marshall plan, as my man SnB likes to call it.

    MLB? You know I wanted Maulauga last year in Rd 1, lol. My head just tells me that there is a plan for Ricky Brown in the middle, and I wouldn’t be surprised to see Norris and Dixon develop. You won’t hear my complaining at all if we could add a ridiculous play making LB to the middle of this defense. Just don’t think it’s going to happen.

  • spellcheck

    A play making LB that leads the league in tackles isn’t squat compared to a pair of DT’s that can stuff the run at the line of scrimage.

  • jhill

    Chris Johnson thinks he’s better than he is, lol. He’s a good corner, but he really needs to spend another summer with Prime. Seems like he really gets beat a lot when he tries to press. Would like to see him switch it up a bit and just play more positioning. I think that is going to come from film room work.

  • SaintKaufman

    Oh man!!

    That was pretty sorry. I guess Cable figured we could bring in the 3rd string QB and throw the ball all over the field.
    Hey McFadden, the entire left side of the field is wide open, make sure you bury your head in the back of the gaurd for a 2 yard gain!
    And why, oh why are we starting a FB on KO returns??

    I really thought that once Routt got tossed we’d have a shot.

  • NoMoreFargas

    Where are all the Cable guys at now ? If the team loves him so much why again do they play like this, he shouldn’t be allowed to call plays for a high school team let alone the NFL it’s a joke. I may change may name to NoMoreMorrison guy is awful how many times must he get blocked or just whiff, I don’t care he was a Raider fan as kid cause he needs to be replaced.

  • Florida Pete

    16yearsold16yearfan Says:
    December 27th, 2009 at 1:39 pm

    why throw the ball 45+ times with a 3rd string qb makes no sense

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    hey maddenraider…

    this kid is smarter than you….

  • 504 Raider

    Al Davis loves to be the first guy to do this or the first one to do that.

    Chalk this new one up for Al.

    He invented the 52 man roster.

    Yet we have a KR with a gut and his number on his jersey looks like two backwards c’s.

  • Thec07

    You guys are on fire tonite…..Non stop laughter…
    Keep up the good work….