Lechler, Asomugha selected
By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Tuesday, December 29th, 2009 at 4:09 pm in Oakland Raiders.
No surprises in the Pro Bowl selections. Punter Shane Lechler and cornerback Nnamdi Asomugha were selected from the Raiders Tuesday to represent the AFC.
Asomugha will start at cornerback along with Darrelle Revis of the New York Jets. Sebastian Janikowski, penalized in part because of his team’s anemic offense, did not make the team. San Diego’s Nate Kaeding, with 138 points, is the AFC kicker.
A Raiders press release said tight end Zach Miller and defensive end Richard Seymour were selected as alternates, meaning they could end up going to Miami for the game if another player or two at his position were to be injured.
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December 29th, 2009 at 4:10 pm
first
December 29th, 2009 at 4:10 pm
Fire Cable! Cut JaLoser!
December 29th, 2009 at 4:13 pm
What Jerry didn’t mention was that Nnamdi is a starter over Champ Bailey.
December 29th, 2009 at 4:14 pm
Congrats, Shane and Nnamdi…..
December 29th, 2009 at 4:20 pm
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December 29th, 2009 at 4:20 pm
whoa, wtf happened there?
December 29th, 2009 at 4:24 pm
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December 29th, 2009 at 4:24 pm
couldnt care less
December 29th, 2009 at 5:06 pm
crickets….
December 29th, 2009 at 5:09 pm
Locusts,….
December 29th, 2009 at 5:10 pm
Bacardi N coke time…….I regress…….
December 29th, 2009 at 5:49 pm
by the time pro bowl week finally rolls around, so many guys would have dropped out for reasons ranging from real injury to a sudden and mysterious case of severe toe jam that players like michael huff and dhb will be able to call themselves pro bowlers.
December 29th, 2009 at 5:54 pm
# RaiderRockstar Says:
December 29th, 2009 at 2:56 pm
any ideas for a bruising NT in the next draft?
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I thought Sammie Lee Hill would have been a solid 4th rounder to pick up and groom to eventually replace Warren on the D-Line, but Al opted to give undrafted undersized Desmond Bryant a shot there and trade for Dick Seymour with only 1 year left on his existing contract
now I think we have no choice but to trade up and take Suh.
DE Ellis
UT Kelly
NT Suh
DE Seymour (pay the man!)
Scott, Shaughnessy, Richardson, Bryant & Joseph = adequate depth I suppose
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Trading the #8-10 pick….along with one of the 3rd round picks and one of the 5th round picks to trade up to the #1 or #2 spot to get Suh would be nice.
Otherwise they need to trade down….but Al Davis is a moron, so he won’t trade down with a top 10 pick….even if a team offers him a deal he can’t refuse.
Tyvon Branch should be an alternate for the Pro Bowl as well by the way.
December 29th, 2009 at 6:01 pm
Keeping Seymour and have him be a mentor and teacher for Suh would be ideal. Some folks feel that Suh is the next Seymour anyhow but with more power and athleticism. Seeing those two on the same line would be great.
Get rid of Warren and either structure down Kellys contract or cut him.
December 29th, 2009 at 6:02 pm
Shaughnessy seems to be the heir apparent at the LDE position to replace Ellis eventually.
Shaughnessy is definitely more of a LDE than a RDE without a doubt.
December 29th, 2009 at 6:04 pm
MLB Rolando McClain or MLB Micah Johnson would be great fits for the defense as well.
Johnson is a BEAST and may end being rated higher then Spikes after the combine and workouts.
December 29th, 2009 at 6:12 pm
DK, our D needs a brusing NT for a few years, someone not to get pushed around, but to make a stand, we have RB’s that dont have a chance going into what we present to D-Lines we have come in to. Our Raiders don’t have the answers, we are lacking in so many answers, we all blame it on JR?
December 29th, 2009 at 6:18 pm
860Todd Christensen Says:
December 29th, 2009 at 6:12 pm
DK, our D needs a brusing NT for a few years, someone not to get pushed around, but to make a stand, we have RB’s that dont have a chance going into what we present to D-Lines we have come in to. Our Raiders don’t have the answers, we are lacking in so many answers, we all blame it on JR?
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JR doesn’t play defense…
then again… he doesn’t play offense either…
December 29th, 2009 at 6:25 pm
Hoe+ how
December 29th, 2009 at 6:31 pm
I know I’m in the minority here, but I would like to see Cable and his staff retained, at least for one more year. This is an organization desperate for some continuity and stability. They cannot continue to change Hc’s every 20 games. Like everybody else I was disgusted with his playcalling on sunday. First and goal at the two with 4:30 left in the game, plenty of time really.Down by 14, to call 4 straight drop back passes is inexcusable. Especially for an old OL coach. On 1st down you have to pound 245 lb Michael Bush into the line. Then on 2nd down, come back with play-action rollout with run/pass option. Mobility is supposed to be one of Frye’s “strengths”. That whole series was atrocious. Hopefully it’s something he can learn from. I don’t think anyone believes Cable is a master tactician with x’s and o’s, but I think the players like him and generally play hard for him. and that says something.
December 29th, 2009 at 6:53 pm
# 860Todd Christensen Says:
December 29th, 2009 at 6:12 pm
DK, our D needs a brusing NT for a few years, someone not to get pushed around, but to make a stand, we have RB’s that dont have a chance going into what we present to D-Lines we have come in to. Our Raiders don’t have the answers, we are lacking in so many answers, we all blame it on JR?
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Suh or Dan Williams would be good picks in round 1.
Cody would be a good pick in…..ROUND 2!
December 29th, 2009 at 6:54 pm
# 860Todd Christensen Says:
December 29th, 2009 at 6:12 pm
DK, our D needs a brusing NT for a few years, someone not to get pushed around, but to make a stand, we have RB’s that dont have a chance going into what we present to D-Lines we have come in to. Our Raiders don’t have the answers, we are lacking in so many answers, we all blame it on JR?
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The blame is on Al Davis!!
December 29th, 2009 at 6:56 pm
Players come and go, Coaches come and go.
The Double-Digit losing seasons remain, with the General Manager.
December 29th, 2009 at 7:03 pm
Should be interesting to see that Baltimore team this weekend. Think we’ll be prepared for Troy Smith in the Wildcat this time around?
December 29th, 2009 at 7:04 pm
Congrats boys. Way to represent. I think it means more to succeed as a Raider.
Seabass should’ve made it, but no denying Kating has helped propell his team to the play offs…where they will lose…par Norvelle.
Rivers has a quick release so a pass rush is imparative to stop their O. He’s wobbling on bad pins remember and their O line has lots of dings and replacements.
Lets hope they get blanked.
December 29th, 2009 at 7:05 pm
Congrats to
408raiderz
Radioactive Rabbits
& Marley Raiders
for going 1-2-3 in the Raider Nation Fantasy League.
I finished 4th, but had a fun year.
December 29th, 2009 at 7:06 pm
It’s also unique Raiders’ dysfunction, with the owner’s cronies making sure the coach’s decisions are publicly undermined.
CBS’ Don Criqui, during the telecast of the loss to Jets, even quoted one of Davis’ cronies saying how much the team supported Russell. Does this seem familiar? Ask Kiffin.
http://blogs.mercurynews.com/kawakami/2009/12/29/raider-clarity-cable-suggests-jamarcus-russell-messed-up-this-season/#more-6890
December 29th, 2009 at 7:06 pm
Don’t see going in any other direction than Oline in Rd 1. BY FAR the worst until on the team this year, with ZERO prospects to look forward to replacing guys like Green, Carlisle, Satele, and Morris. Pears and Barnes HAVE to be gone since they can’t even get off the inactive list.
Oline in Rd 1!
December 29th, 2009 at 7:08 pm
This LB Sharpton for the U looks pretty good. Think it said Kiper had him as the #6 LB prospect.
December 29th, 2009 at 7:11 pm
jhill Says:
December 29th, 2009 at 7:03 pm
Should be interesting to see that Baltimore team this weekend. Think we’ll be prepared for Troy Smith in the Wildcat this time around?
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F’in we should HAVE Troy Smith! Smuggle that guy back with us for next year.
Troy boys the real deal and if the flu and Flacco hadn’t have conspired, he’d be leading the charge in Baltimore and dare I specualte, he’d be doing it very well.
He’s time on the bench to get up to speed, he works his azz off, studies hard, is a leader by example and commands the huddle by getting the job done.
Basically everything Russell hasn’t been.
I think Russell will be back with us in 2010, unless like Jerry aluded to he comes back from the off like he did this year. Fat, unispired and unshcooled.
I see the potential there for Russell. Man, when his mechanics are on, he throws a gorgeous ball with pin point accuracy.
He’s capable of making all the throws, but it’ll take work to get consistent.
Whether he works or not is up to him, but he’ll be the poster child for reforming the way NFL draft picks get paid if he doesn’t.
I’d love nothing more then for him to have a pro bowl year for the Raiders in 2010.
All depends on Russell at this point.
December 29th, 2009 at 7:11 pm
Jhill,
We have 4 picks in the first 3 rounds. I think it has to be a LB, DB, C/G and RT.
I don’t know which rounds they will do it in, but that has to be the plan.
I don’t think we have a 4th so those first 3 rounds are going to be vital.
December 29th, 2009 at 7:11 pm
buckeye raider i am with you. Cable should be retained along with John Marshall. The offense has improved 100% since Jamarcus was benched.
John Marshall has created a lot of pressure and has mixed up the defensive fronts a bit.
Al Davis should allow this coaching staff to stay on because overall people feel that the raiders are going in the right direction. The only thing people are apprehensive about is Al Davis and his ego not allowing him to cut his losses with Jamarcus and players like Darrius heyward bey.
December 29th, 2009 at 7:12 pm
Players come and go, Coaches come and go.
The Double-Digit losing seasons remain, with the old General Manager.
December 29th, 2009 at 7:14 pm
jhill Says:
December 29th, 2009 at 7:06 pm
Don’t see going in any other direction than Oline in Rd 1. BY FAR the worst until on the team this year, with ZERO prospects to look forward to replacing guys like Green, Carlisle, Satele, and Morris. Pears and Barnes HAVE to be gone since they can’t even get off the inactive list.
Oline in Rd 1!
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See, but that would make SENSE! So , not likely to happen…
Gawd, we need Center thru RT.
Losing Gallery hurt Henderson no doubt.
Many expected a pro bowl run by Gallery after last year. His injuires were huge disappointments.
No excuse for the right side. Can only do so much. Next year…pretty sick of saying that…
December 29th, 2009 at 7:15 pm
Another Al Davis draft, equals another double-digit losing season.
December 29th, 2009 at 7:15 pm
There is no rhyme or reason to the top of the draft anymore… don’t even use logic. Walterfootball.com predicted that DHB would be the raiders pick by this time last year mostly because they insisted that Al Davis will not let a player with DHB’s size and speed get past him.
They refer to him as UNdead Al. They were mostly mocking the man, but yet they had that as his pick a year out. My suggestion to all of you draft guru’s is to look up who they are saying al will take because they are basing it off of sure raw size, speed and pure “upside”… and they are laughing while they do it.
December 29th, 2009 at 7:17 pm
WR – Murphy, Schillens, and DHB will be the top 3 guys next year, with Nick Miller mixed in too. Not drafting WR.
RB – McFadden and Bush? Not drafting RB in rd 1.
TE – Miller and Meyers. We’re good.
QB – Russell and Grads will be the guys next year.
S – Branch, Huff, Mitchell.
DE – Ellis, Seymour, Shaugnessy
DT – Kelly, Bryant, Warren, and Joseph. Warren and Kelly restructured last year, they certainly will again.
LB – Scott and Howard are pretty locked in at OLB. Plenty of options with Brown, Morrison, Nixon, and Norris to pass on a LB in rd 1
OT – Henderson, Pears, Barnes, Green. Screaming for a 1st rd pick!
OG – Gallery, Walker, and Carlisle. Only guys on the roster. Screaming for a FA signing!
C – Satele and Morris. One of these guys should be backing up our 2nd rd pick we take this year.
CB – Nnamdi, CJ, and Routt. Might be the darkhorse 1st rd pick unless our boy Bowie comes back, lol!
Oline in Rd 1!
December 29th, 2009 at 7:17 pm
Hey Kool kell. I agree. I have to give you your props though. I check back in from time to time, and you are hear voicing your displeasure about the raiders consitently and usually shooting down expectations defaulting back to who is still running the show.
December 29th, 2009 at 7:19 pm
34. Dickv:
Agreed.
Cable stays. To switch up AGAIN would be starting over. Interesting to see who they bring in to fix the WR’s. May just keep Lal knowing Al…
Carlise and Green HAVE to go and everyone knows Center is THE key positon in the ZBS.
Davis mentioned beef in the line before the season started and plugging Langston Walker’s bulk into the line up to sub for Gallery seemd to help.
So did jumbo packages and 2 TE sets.
With out a real blocking FB one wonders why we didn’t see these much till week 14?
December 29th, 2009 at 7:20 pm
Raiders will select Taylor Mays with their pick if he is on the board: garunteed. 6′3″ 235 lbs with sub 4.3 speed. You are delusional to think Al davis is not salivating watching Mays cut ups from the emarald bowl right now.
December 29th, 2009 at 7:20 pm
Vegas,
What happened to our 4th rd pick?
And don’t we have 2 #5’s thanks to the Burgess trade?
December 29th, 2009 at 7:21 pm
I thought we have 2 3’s, no 4’s, and 2 5’s.
Could be way off, but that’s what I thought it was.
December 29th, 2009 at 7:22 pm
So Nnamdi,
You’d rather have Troy Smith than Grads? I kinda see it as a wash. Both smaller guys who work hard, but Grads MIGHT be a better passer don’t you think? I’m all for giving Grads another shot at the title against the heavyweight. Nothing against Smith, just kinda rewarding Grads, ya know.
December 29th, 2009 at 7:22 pm
If Cable is back Green and Carlisle will probably be back with him. I beleive that Cable would love to draft better prospects on the o line, but he has to work with what Al gives him. They both suck, but they are the best “fits” for his system on the roster: available.
December 29th, 2009 at 7:22 pm
There was a story on BSPN the other day by Clayton or Adam sphinkter about Holmgren coming to Cleveland as GM. At the end of the piece, almost as an afterthought it mentioned Ron Wolf contemplating coming out of retirement, and getting back into the NFL. Any chance he would come back to where he got his start and Help AD out in the front office? Al mentioned at Cable’s press conference last year that he needs some help, and had someone in mind. Any thoughts?
December 29th, 2009 at 7:24 pm
Buckeye… just keep on day dreaming it sounds nice though. Ron Wolf back in command
December 29th, 2009 at 7:29 pm
Yeah, the draft wish lists are mostly a huge waste of time. They make perfect sense and thats not haow Al adressess the draft. Like Dickv said, its all about drafting athletes who can be taught football. we need football players who love and obssess about football, so much they eleveate everyone around them thru ethic and intimidation.
Bar setters.
December 29th, 2009 at 7:30 pm
I just don’t see Al Davis putting this Oline together. This is Cable’s Oline and if he wasn’t such a Cornell Green guy, we would have been able to draft an OT last year. Let’s not forget about the failed Khalif Barnes experiment. We have ZERO OGs on the roster other than Carlisle. Gallery, Walker, Pears, Green, Henderson, Barnes? All OTs. Why would Al Davis field a team full of OTs? Cable is clueless!
December 29th, 2009 at 7:34 pm
dickv Says:
December 29th, 2009 at 7:20 pm
Raiders will select Taylor Mays with their pick if he is on the board: garunteed. 6′3″ 235 lbs with sub 4.3 speed. You are delusional to think Al davis is not salivating watching Mays cut ups from the emarald bowl right now.
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He may be over rated. Don’t know, haven’t looked, but I suppose I better huh? Ole Al…
I’ve joked about this and Al moving Tyvon to CB ala Aso’s safety to CB move.
December 29th, 2009 at 7:35 pm
jhill Says:
December 29th, 2009 at 7:30 pm
I just don’t see Al Davis putting this Oline together. This is Cable’s Oline and if he wasn’t such a Cornell Green guy, we would have been able to draft an OT last year. Let’s not forget about the failed Khalif Barnes experiment. We have ZERO OGs on the roster other than Carlisle. Gallery, Walker, Pears, Green, Henderson, Barnes? All OTs. Why would Al Davis field a team full of OTs? Cable is clueless
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Understandable, but don’t forget Kwame…
December 29th, 2009 at 7:37 pm
The offense has improved 100% since Jamarcus was benched.
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Really?
The offense had ONE good quarter against the Steelers. Other than that, it has been an utter disaster, IMO.
Also, you just can’t discount Gallery’s injury week 2 and him not coming back until after the bye. We see how Morris is killing the Oline having to play LG, and it was no different early in the season.
You don’t find in coinky-dinky that the offense improved once DHB’s foot got hurt? CMON!
How about our running game taking off each time Fargas gets hurt and Cable is forced to play Bush?
I totally agree with your take on Marshall though. Would love to see a year 2 for him. If we stuck with Ryan for 5 years, I can’t see us getting rid of Marshall regardless of what happens with Cable.
December 29th, 2009 at 7:39 pm
Al is NOT taking Taylor Mays with Huff, Branch, and Mitchell on board.
I’d like for someone to tell me when Al has drafted a position in Rd 1 when it wasn’t a need? Like Vegas says, right postions, wrong players.
Oline, MLB, or CB will be the pick this year. CLEARLY our 3 biggest needs.
December 29th, 2009 at 7:44 pm
# vegas raider Says:
December 29th, 2009 at 7:11 pm
Jhill,
We have 4 picks in the first 3 rounds. I think it has to be a LB, DB, C/G and RT.
I don’t know which rounds they will do it in, but that has to be the plan.
I don’t think we have a 4th so those first 3 rounds are going to be vital.
^^^^^^^^^
If a DB is taken (especially a CB) with the first four picks of the draft, then someone needs to put that Al Davis down and out of his misery.
December 29th, 2009 at 7:46 pm
Woo!
December 29th, 2009 at 7:47 pm
Dkinght007,
Your cool with Stanford Routt? He might be the biggest weakness on our D. When he is on the field, he gets picked on. One huge pass-play and penalty EVERY GAME.
His position must be upgraded.
December 29th, 2009 at 7:47 pm
If a DB is taken (especially a CB) with the first four picks of the draft, then someone needs to put that Al Davis down and out of his misery.
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Nnamdi and CJ are it as far as our CBs that are under contract next year. Unless you are a fan of bringing Routt back, we HAVE to take a corner with one of our first 4 picks. Other than bringing back Bowie, Routt, or moving Branch or Huff to CB, what other choice is there?
December 29th, 2009 at 7:47 pm
DickV
The OL has to be the focus in this years draft. Carlisle is no longer starting caliber. They squeezed a few decent years out of the free agent. he was familiar with Cable’s ZBS, but he has to be replaced. Maybe kept around as a veteran, emergency back up. Everbody agrees that Mop handle is not the answer at RT. What is Greenes biggest deficiency? He struggles with edge rushers, which leads to false starts and holding penalties. He seems to be a decent run blocker. So how about drafting the best OT prospect in round one, and sliding Mop handle into RG ala Robert Gallery.
December 29th, 2009 at 7:49 pm
# dickv Says:
December 29th, 2009 at 7:15 pm
There is no rhyme or reason to the top of the draft anymore… don’t even use logic. Walterfootball.com predicted that DHB would be the raiders pick by this time last year mostly because they insisted that Al Davis will not let a player with DHB’s size and speed get past him.
They refer to him as UNdead Al. They were mostly mocking the man, but yet they had that as his pick a year out. My suggestion to all of you draft guru’s is to look up who they are saying al will take because they are basing it off of sure raw size, speed and pure “upside”… and they are laughing while they do it.
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Saw that….walters has the old crazy man down pat! LOL
December 29th, 2009 at 7:51 pm
Vegas,
I agree with you on our 1st 4 picks being OL, OL, LB, and CB.
I just really think that we will see either Morrison or Brown at MLB next year. I mean, FOUR USC LBs were sitting right there, and Al passed them up. There has to be a plan for Brown.
December 29th, 2009 at 7:52 pm
Thanks Dickv,
I know I sound like a broken record, but, that’s what the Raiders are. Year after year after year, Coach after Coach after Coach. Draft after Draft after Draft.
Yet, the General Manager’s performance is verbotten conversation?
They’re in here talking about next year’s draft like lunatics.
The Raiders winning doesn’t seem to be the issue.
But, ONE sellout this year, the message seems to be getting through to enough people to actually leverage Davis.
December 29th, 2009 at 7:54 pm
Big Langston will be our RG next year. Just need a C and RT. Actually, Satele might be halfway decent with Gallery and Walker on either side of him. That’s a lot of beef!
December 29th, 2009 at 7:54 pm
# jhill Says:
December 29th, 2009 at 7:51 pm
Vegas,
I agree with you on our 1st 4 picks being OL, OL, LB, and CB.
I just really think that we will see either Morrison or Brown at MLB next year. I mean, FOUR USC LBs were sitting right there, and Al passed them up. There has to be a plan for Brown.
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If the old man picks a CB within the first four picks in the draft and not a DT…..someone needs to seriously SNIPE him and put the old man out of his misery. LOL
December 29th, 2009 at 7:54 pm
vegas raider Says:
December 29th, 2009 at 7:47 pm
Dkinght007,
Your cool with Stanford Routt? He might be the biggest weakness on our D. When he is on the field, he gets picked on. One huge pass-play and penalty EVERY GAME.
His position must be upgraded.
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This is plain truth if you’ve watched every game, you know we need some depth at DB like it or not.
Not…
Man, Ndamukong Suh sounds like he’s really a monster. can’t imagine him on field with Seymour. I’ve mentioned it before, the vet teaching and passing the torch to the rook, but who knows with Al.
Guys like Dorsey and Ellis haven’t panned out gold yet.
December 29th, 2009 at 7:56 pm
I was not impressed much with Brown in the middle.
Remember the Saints preseason game? That was supposed to be Brown’s coming out party. Our D never looked worse.
December 29th, 2009 at 7:57 pm
Suh even doubles as a goal line fullback(!)
December 29th, 2009 at 7:57 pm
Kell,
It’s just that we all know Davis isn’t going anywhere. Totally agree that Davis is responsible since he hired the guy who calls 4 pass plays from the 2 yd line instead of running it in.
I blame the guy who handed Al the note at the press conference explaing who Tom Cable was. Perfect opportunity to switch the name to Jim Harbaugh since Al didn’t know what the hell was going on anyway, lol!
December 29th, 2009 at 7:58 pm
OK Routt isn’t our biggest weakness, I will back off that. But when the other teams passes the ball, I pray it is not thrown on Routt’s man. Even if if falls incomplete, is will be 50/50 if there is a flag.
December 29th, 2009 at 7:58 pm
Suh is going #1. I find it pointless to talk about him.
I hope he flops for the Rams.
December 29th, 2009 at 7:59 pm
Suh compares to Seymour actually…
December 29th, 2009 at 8:00 pm
vegas raider Says:
December 29th, 2009 at 7:58 pm
Suh is going #1. I find it pointless to talk about him.
I hope he flops for the Rams.
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Kind of a thin draft anyways huh?
December 29th, 2009 at 8:01 pm
I thought this was suppossed to be one of the deepest drafts in recent history? Especially for defense?
December 29th, 2009 at 8:03 pm
They can sign a vet free agent or draft Routts replacement after round 5 if need be.
NO DB/CB should be drafted within the first four rounds of this draft!
Enough is enough. D-Lineman, LB’S and O-Line all the way!
December 29th, 2009 at 8:04 pm
You’re right about Brown, Vegas.
But you can’t deny that their seems to be plan for that guy. Scott, Howard, and Brown will be starting for us next year.
December 29th, 2009 at 8:07 pm
Trent Williams to replace Green at RT
December 29th, 2009 at 8:08 pm
jhill Says:
December 29th, 2009 at 7:57 pm
Kell,
It’s just that we all know Davis isn’t going anywhere. Totally agree that Davis is responsible since he hired the guy who calls 4 pass plays from the 2 yd line instead of running it in.
I blame the guy who handed Al the note at the press conference explaing who Tom Cable was. Perfect opportunity to switch the name to Jim Harbaugh since Al didn’t know what the hell was going on anyway, lol
^^^^^^^^^
Gruden and Harbaugh should be the choices to turn around this franchise…..but the dumb old man will settle and waste more time with someone like Gilbride, Cable and Fassel.
December 29th, 2009 at 8:10 pm
# Nnamdi21 Says:
December 29th, 2009 at 8:07 pm
Trent Williams to replace Green at RT
^^^^^^^^^^
There you go…he would start right away and be an instant upgrade over Green. But the old man is brain dead and doesn’t like drafting a starting RT for the next 10 years with a top 10 pick??
Lunacy….it would have been nice to hear Oher named be called last year at #7 also.
December 29th, 2009 at 8:17 pm
If we draft a guy to play RT, please let it be that he actually plays RT in college.
The whole idea of having two guys compete at LT with the loser going to RT, that just sounds like something the Raiders would screw up.
Draft a guy, and play him where he played in college.
December 29th, 2009 at 8:24 pm
If we go MLB, what then happens to Morrisson?
He’s a little light in the pants against big lineman blocking him but if we had a DT that clogged the middle up for him, it may make him look a lot better…
December 29th, 2009 at 8:24 pm
Its hard to deny his #s. He makes a lot of tackles
December 29th, 2009 at 8:39 pm
Jhill Says:
December 29th, 2009 at 7:57 pm
Kell,
It’s just that we all know Davis isn’t going anywhere. Totally agree that Davis is responsible since he hired the guy who calls 4 pass plays from the 2 yd line instead of running it in.
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I hear ya, most of you guys aren’t local anyway. Fantasy leaguers and Video gamers. Just love to talk football, I guess.
But, if you all know Al isn’t going anywhere what make you think this will change?
09′ 5-10
08′ 5-11
07′ 4-12
06′ 2-14
05′ 4-12
04′ 5-11
03′ 4-12
It’s like endless drivel about skiing in Tucson.
December 29th, 2009 at 8:48 pm
But, if you all know Al isn’t going anywhere what makes you think this years draft will change anything?
09′ 5-10
08′ 5-11
07′ 4-12
06′ 2-14
05′ 4-12
04′ 5-11
03′ 4-12
It’s like endless drivel about skiing in Tucson.
December 29th, 2009 at 9:16 pm
Warriors beat Pheonix and then Boston and now they’re giving the Lakers everything they can handle.
Nice to have our Centers back!!!
F U Dakota
December 29th, 2009 at 9:17 pm
Can we put this on a billboard?
09′ 5-10
08′ 5-11
07′ 4-12
06′ 2-14
05′ 4-12
04′ 5-11
03′ 4-12
December 29th, 2009 at 9:19 pm
Seabass should’ve made it.
Seabass was 24/27 with 2 of the 3 misses coming from 57 and 64. He has a long of 61. He was:
0-29: 3/3
30-39: 6/6
40-49: 9/10
50-59: 5/6
60-69: 1/2
XPs: 16/16
Kaeding was good, but had a ton of chip shots. Here’s Kaeding’s breakdown:
0-29: 18/18
30-39: 4/4
40-49: 4/6
50-59: 3/4
60-69: 0/0
XPs: 48/49
Kaeding does have Janikowski by 47 points, but 33 of the 47 are on XPs and Kaeding has 45 more points than Seabass on FGs inside 30 yards. 78 of Kaedings 135 points were absolute gimmies. Janikowski only has 25 of 88 points in gimmie territory.
December 29th, 2009 at 9:31 pm
correct seabass was way more impressive then kaeding. plus seabass is a raider which automatically makes him better then skinny crap charger.
December 29th, 2009 at 9:54 pm
Can we please stop spouting off Taylor Mays as our top pick? Sub 4.3 speed my ass. If that’s the case that WR for BC the other night must run a 3.8 cus he blew by Mays like he was standing still.
And please defend Mays by saying Mays was not in proper position to be able to get the guy. Then we will get to the real reason why we shouldn’t draft him which is that Mays can’t cover.
If Rey Maualuga went 2nd rnd Mays should go there as well. Taylor Mays is garbage. If we dare go for a safety we should look at LSU’s Chad Jones (2nd rnd). Just as big as Mays but not as fast. The main thing is Jones is a FOOTBALL player which we terribly need. As a bonus he can return punts if needed. Brought one back 97 yds this season with juke moves and elusiveness. 4.5 speed and very smart so he doesn’t need the extra 2 tenths of a second because he has great anticipation. Knows how to play the position.
With all that said, we don’t even need a safety. Take a LB with that pick.
December 29th, 2009 at 10:13 pm
‘the general managers performance is verboten conversation’-you have to be joking,right?that is what 90% of the posts on here are about now-a-days.while it is true the old man has made the Raiders organization a joke and turned us into the laughing stock of the league,there are other things some fans like to talk about and focus on.what is humorous is you constantly point out how terrible the old fart does things,but at the same time support Russell who as of right now is the biggest bust in the leagues history.the only person in the league who thinks Russell is a bonafide NFL QB is the guy you despise and point out has done such a terrible job as leading the franchise.
December 29th, 2009 at 10:22 pm
KoolKell,
The only thing worse than Al Davis’s record for the past 7 years is your repeated moanings about same.
Come up with something to say that is an addition to the conversation or input that is worth listening to….are you hearing me?
December 29th, 2009 at 10:23 pm
504-while i agree with you regarding Mayes,how about you quit spouting those overrated SEC players.didn’t we learn anything by drafting Russell and McFadden?
December 29th, 2009 at 10:27 pm
Sam bradford in the first round… Lets get it!!!
December 29th, 2009 at 10:32 pm
outside of DHB, none of “Al Davis’s” draft picks were reaches or surprises by any means, every single one of them were “of course” or “no-brainers”.
They just didn’t pan out in the way you would like them to. Gallery took a new position and a couple of years, Huff took a couple of years, Nnamdi took a couple of years, etc.
Jamarcus was a mistake, bust, or bad gamble, but anybody else would have made the same pick given the position the Raiders were in at that draft point.
DMAC was a prospect that couldn’t be passed up on, huge up-side, huge down-side, Al likes the huge up-side possibility and went for it…get over it.
That’s Al…..That’s the Raiders, love it or leave it.
December 29th, 2009 at 10:32 pm
We need a big OT to protect Russell next year and seal the edge for those big McFadden runs that our new head coach will dial up.
December 29th, 2009 at 10:34 pm
jhill Says:
December 29th, 2009 at 10:32 pm
We need a big OT to protect Russell next year and seal the edge for those big McFadden runs that our new head coach will dial up.
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exactly….I thought for sure that we were going to draft O-line to protect and prop up the huge investment we had just made in the QB and RB, but we went WR & SS….oh well, hope this year we draft O-line.
December 29th, 2009 at 10:35 pm
Here’s my pick:
Rd. 1 OLT
Rd. 2 MLB – a run stuffer
Rd.3A C
Rd.3B CB
Rd.5A OG/C
Rd.5B Best available DT/DE
Rd. 6 Best available DE/DT
Rd. 7 Best available OL/DL
We can let the #1 pick compete for the OLT with Henderson. The winner gets OLT, the other goes to ORT. #2 pick starts at MLB. Morrison if he stays goes outside. Same goes for Howard. that leaves Scott. Maybe t’s time to relook at the 3-4 defense. he #3A pick starts at Center with Satelle and/or Morris as backup. The #3B pick replaces Rhoutt as a nickle/dime back. We might want to look at Branch to move over to CB to replace CJ & let CJ be the nickle back. That way, Huff & Mitchell can run the safety positions. #5A pick can be the backup to Gallery & Walker who will be the new starting guards. Picks 5-7 will be whatever they turn out to be. Hopefully that means more qualified back-ups than are currently available.
Of course none of this will happen or come into play as long as certain un-named people want to micromanage the team, as they have continually done so in the past, into complete irrevelancy.
Pass the koolaide. It must be that time of year again.
December 29th, 2009 at 10:36 pm
# Kirk Says:
December 29th, 2009 at 9:17 pm
Can we put this on a billboard?
09′ 5-10
08′ 5-11
07′ 4-12
06′ 2-14
05′ 4-12
04′ 5-11
03′ 4-12
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LOL….this would have been great to put up on the billboard and then have below it say….
“Who is the GM??”
December 29th, 2009 at 10:36 pm
methinks that Cable over-sold his ability to create an O-line out of other people’s scraps….he couldn’t.
December 29th, 2009 at 10:37 pm
Al will protect and invest in protecting Jamarcus with an O-line this draft.
December 29th, 2009 at 10:37 pm
Was watching NFL Network tonight and the coaches were talking about the Bengals and how they just stay true to who they are. 35 rushing attempts to 25 passes.
That is how the Raiders should have been playing all year. Pound the shyt outta the rock, and give the QB 20 or so throws a game. Cedric Benson got 28 carries by himself this weekend.
Russell or Grads is going to be the QB here next year no matter who likes it. We need to get some hogs in here to open up holes and give our QBs at least 3 or 4 seconds to find someone.
December 29th, 2009 at 10:40 pm
# jhill Says:
December 29th, 2009 at 10:32 pm
We need a big OT to protect Russell next year and seal the edge for those big McFadden runs that our new head coach will dial up.
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You mean a OT to protect Gradkowski or Vick.
Only way Russell gets a sniff of the field IMO is if he loses 15-20 pounds and shows up in shape by the time camp starts. By doing that, he will show whoever the coach is, that he is serious about competing.
December 29th, 2009 at 10:42 pm
Russell doesn’t know how to be serious about competing at this level
December 29th, 2009 at 10:42 pm
he is laughing all the way to the bank……….period
December 29th, 2009 at 10:44 pm
With only Schillens and JLH really as options at WR, I can actually understand WR being our #1 pick this year. A lot of folks had us taking WR just Maclin or Crabtree instead of DHB.
Once Khalif Barnes was signed and we traded for Satele, I didn’t think we were going draft Oline.
December 29th, 2009 at 10:45 pm
the Raiders had too many holes to fill and tried to create an Oline out of others scraps-it didn’t work.
IMO,we drafted skill position players knowing it takes a few years for them to become effective NFL players,while linemen can usually step in and be effective right away.next draft will hopefully focus on the Oline and MLB positions.of course if we once again put Russell out there,nothing will matter-we WILL stink.
December 29th, 2009 at 10:47 pm
Let Russell run the taxi squad next year if he’s still around. He’ll do the least amount of harm there. Personally, I just hope they’d cut his sorry ass and move on.
Forget Vick, He’s just an Ex-RB pretending to be an Ex-QB. We need real QB prospects. That eliminates JaBustus and Vick. I’d like to see us go after Troy Smith – a young guy who has the desire & tools to become a legitimate franchise QB.
December 29th, 2009 at 10:52 pm
If QB Ryan Mallet comes out out of Arkansas, the old man or whoever the GM is may take a look at Mallet. Mallet can sit and learn for a year while Grads starts.
December 29th, 2009 at 10:53 pm
jhill Says:
December 29th, 2009 at 10:44 pm
With only Schillens and JLH really as options at WR, I can actually understand WR being our #1 pick this year. A lot of folks had us taking WR just Maclin or Crabtree instead of DHB.
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Jhill, what are you smoking? Only Schillings & JLH? What about Murphy, Nick Miller or the guy who should be a WR DMac? Add Bey and we have more than enough prospects at WR. WE DO NOT NEED ANOTHER WR.
Barnes & Satelle are both BUSH League at best. We need O-line help big time!
December 29th, 2009 at 10:55 pm
OT, DT,AND MLB should be the priority and getting a pure pass rushing RDE prospect and a C also.
December 29th, 2009 at 10:56 pm
Everyone says how bad our Oline is. Everyone says how bad DHB was. And EVERYONE says that Cable is not a good OC/Playcaller.
But the QB should be cut, tarred, and feathered for playing 8 bad games?
Al Davis disagrees!
December 29th, 2009 at 10:59 pm
JB,
Was talking about RDT post about this year’s pick, DHB.
How many times have I said that we should draft Oline in Rd 1 of the upcoming draft?
December 29th, 2009 at 11:03 pm
Does Al Davis even know what day it is? The jury is out on that one and all the insiders say he’s just a crazy old coot who lives in the past – when he can remember it. 80 year old people don’t get brighter or more insightful, there just interested in making new acquaintances every day – the same new people the met yesterday. I seriously doubt that Davis is lucid 24 hours a day. There’s a reason he looks like death warmed over – He’s Old and it shows. His actions show that his mind was shot long ago.
December 29th, 2009 at 11:04 pm
Jhill – sorry I misread it.
December 29th, 2009 at 11:05 pm
Tom Cable’s offense with Charlie Frye starting has been AWFUL. A lot of it has to do with play calling, IMO. 83 yds passing for Frye against Denver? 9 pts against Rob Ryan?
Grads had one good qtr against Pittsburgh, but the offense against Cincy, Washington, and Dallas was horrible!
Bull crap that we would have won more games with a different QB starting the season. Our Oline, WRs, HC, and play caller were still the same.
I’m still waiting on someone to tell me which game we would’ve won with a different QB?
Denver game at home?
Houston?
Giants?
December 29th, 2009 at 11:05 pm
the play calling wasn’t as bad,the Oline wasn’t as bad when the QB you always seem to defend was benched and an avg.-at best-QB took his place.you always say Russell is being scapegoated-IMO,a lot of you are scapegoating the coaches because of Russell.Gradkowski won 2 of 3 games he played the whole game.Frye should have very won last week.Russell was terrible for 9 phucking weeks.get off his jock and admit HE DRUG the team down.
December 29th, 2009 at 11:08 pm
Walter Footbal 2010 Mock Rounds 1-3
Oakland Raiders:
1st rnd: Ryan Mallett, QB Arkansas
2nd rnd: Carlos Dunlap, DE Florida
3rd rnd: Marvin Austin, DT North Carolina
3rd rnd: Selvish Capers, OT, West Virginia
Hmmmmmmm!!!!!
December 29th, 2009 at 11:10 pm
BTW,we all know Frye is nothing but an emergency QB.Great guy to have on the team,but hope he never sees the field.
December 29th, 2009 at 11:10 pm
Look, it’s not like the Raiders never drafted O-Lineman in the 1st 2 rounds before.
Stenchhcomb
Gallery
Collins
Grove
That didn’t do them any good either.
December 29th, 2009 at 11:12 pm
Lefty
No doubt about it, JaBustus was a daggar in the ass of progress. The poor play was compounded by o-line injuries and inferior linemen (Satelle, cooper, Carlisle, Green, Pears & Barnes). Then, bad play calling was the death blow game after game. Russell needs to go. The aforementioned O-linemen for the mostpart need to go. Cable as a HC, needs to go. And lastly, Al Davis eeds to step back, hire a GM, quite meddling and leave the team & coaches alone.
December 29th, 2009 at 11:12 pm
Crazy old man-please don’t draft a QB from the SEC again.Defensive players-OK,but no QBs.
December 29th, 2009 at 11:13 pm
Lefty,
I’ll take SEC guys over USC guys all day. Hell, the rest of the Pac-10 too.
December 29th, 2009 at 11:14 pm
JB,i disagree.i hope Cable stays,but is told to hire an OC.
December 29th, 2009 at 11:14 pm
Get off his jock ???
LMFAO!
Get off Cable’s jock.
Grads won 2 outta 3 games? LMFAO! What does that have to do with the in eptness of the offense?
The Cincy game was won by our defense just like game 2 against KC. RIGHT OR WRONG? The QB had 100 yds of passing at the 58 minute mark of the game. Thank GOD for a STs fumble and a dropped pick, lol. Don’t act like the QB play or offense was a difference in that game. Grads led a last minute drive just like Russell did in week 1 and 2, but SUCKED ARSE the rest of the game.
Frye should’ve won last week? LMFAO, Well Russell DID win the game last week. And Frye sucked again this past week.
We can go back and forth on this Lefty if it makes you feel good, lol! You already said our Oline sucks, our play caller is bad, and DHB shouldn’t have been starting, so I really don’t know what you are arguing about.
Oh, I’m not mad at Russell like you are. Got it.
December 29th, 2009 at 11:15 pm
Russell has played 1.5 years.
What about the other 5 years of double-digit losing?
December 29th, 2009 at 11:15 pm
Here is a mock that basically says Al Davis blows it on draft day.
http://www.footballfanspot.com/nflmockdrafts2010.htm
December 29th, 2009 at 11:16 pm
Frye is just a young coach. He knows what to do and how it should be done. He just can’t physically do it. He’s a Coach.
December 29th, 2009 at 11:16 pm
lefty12 Says:
December 29th, 2009 at 11:14 pm
JB,i disagree.i hope Cable stays,but is told to hire an OC.
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Play calling isn’t bad but you hope he hires an OC?
LMFAO!
December 29th, 2009 at 11:17 pm
# JB Says:
December 29th, 2009 at 11:12 pm
Lefty
No doubt about it, JaBustus was a daggar in the ass of progress. The poor play was compounded by o-line injuries and inferior linemen (Satelle, cooper, Carlisle, Green, Pears & Barnes). Then, bad play calling was the death blow game after game. Russell needs to go. The aforementioned O-linemen for the mostpart need to go. Cable as a HC, needs to go. And lastly, Al Davis eeds to step back, hire a GM, quite meddling and leave the team & coaches alone.
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Exactly!
December 29th, 2009 at 11:18 pm
Quit talking about drafting a QB. We did that and failed miserably. We can get Troy Smith very cheaply & he would want to come here to cpmpete for the starting position which I think he’d win. He easily could become the next Rich Gannon for the Raiders.
I’d love to see him play this weekend and kick our butts royally. Maybe then, some in here would start paying attention. We are NOT going to find our franchise QB via the draft. It’s just NOT going to happen. And, Vick is not the answer either.
December 29th, 2009 at 11:20 pm
504-that is because you are from the south and you guys seem to think the only good players are in the SEC.being a west coast guy,i think the SEC is totally overrated,just as you hate the Pac-10 and since the SEC teams won’t travel anywhere there is no real way to prove either of us correct.BTW,i can’t stand SC but they have as many players in the pros as anybody.
December 29th, 2009 at 11:20 pm
Lefty
Russell has played 1.5 years.
What about the other 5 years of double-digit losing?
December 29th, 2009 at 11:20 pm
# 504 Raider Says:
December 29th, 2009 at 11:08 pm
Walter Footbal 2010 Mock Rounds 1-3
Oakland Raiders:
1st rnd: Ryan Mallett, QB Arkansas
2nd rnd: Carlos Dunlap, DE Florida
3rd rnd: Marvin Austin, DT North Carolina
3rd rnd: Selvish Capers, OT, West Virginia
Hmmmmmmm!!!!!
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Austin in round 3 would be good. Mallett can sit and learn behind Grads. The thing is who is going to be the REAL head coach to bring Mallet along?
Need someone competant like Gruden or Harbaugh to teach Mallett. Certainly not Cable.
Rather have MLB Micah Johnson in Round 2 ahead of the underachieving Dunlap.
December 29th, 2009 at 11:22 pm
Cable should come back next year? LMFAO. You know what Cable is doing right now this very minute? Snoring. Dude ain’t losing any sleep over what happened this season. His comments yesterday about judging himself as an OC/play-caller is just like the crap Russell says when someone asks him how he played after a horrible outing. Cable is sleep and Russell just might beat him to headquarters tomorrow morning.
December 29th, 2009 at 11:22 pm
The poor play was compounded by o-line injuries and inferior linemen (Satelle, cooper, Carlisle, Green, Pears & Barnes). Then, bad play calling was the death blow game after game.
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But Russell, or ANY QB for that matter, is suppossed to get the job done under those circumstances?
The game plan was flawed from training camp. Listen to what Jeff Garcia told you for goodness sakes. Believe your eyes! Why was this team not a pound the rock team from week 1? Why was the Russell to DHB thing forced down our throats.
I say we would have won more had we stuck to our running game with plenty of Bush and 2 TEs. Mix in McFadden with some creativity and throw the ball MAYBE 20 times a game. But NOOOOOOO. 4 verticals from our own end zone is what we got.
December 29th, 2009 at 11:23 pm
You know what fellas….
If Rolando McClain is there at #9 or 10….the dumb old man or whoever is the GM better take him or an OT!
McClain is a beast MLB that the defense needs badly!
December 29th, 2009 at 11:24 pm
Lefty,
Russell has played 1.5 years.
What about the other 5 years of double-digit losing?
December 29th, 2009 at 11:24 pm
Can’t argue with the points made in #132. All true – unfortunately.
December 29th, 2009 at 11:29 pm
JB,
After looking more into Troy Smith, I’m beginning to “Cable” thinking about what this kid can do for us. And since I “Cabled,” Troy Smith is starting to make a whole lot of since. I just jumped on the slowed down Troy Smith bandwagon.
“Cable”: turn the corner.
December 29th, 2009 at 11:30 pm
Jhill,what i don’t understand about you is you knock the Oline,you knock the coaches,you knock a rookie WR who was put in a terrible position he shouldn’t have been put in,yet you excuse the absolutely terrible play by the man who is supposed to be the team leader in a league that is driven by the position he plays.you refuse to acknowledge his play was totally unacceptable and was dragging the team down.he didn’t know the play book,he didn’t see the whole field, and he COULDN’T change the plays at the line,yet you blame the coach for his play calling.how the hell can a coach call a good game when his franchise QB doesn’t know the damn plays?
December 29th, 2009 at 11:31 pm
# jhill Says:
December 29th, 2009 at 11:22 pm
The poor play was compounded by o-line injuries and inferior linemen (Satelle, cooper, Carlisle, Green, Pears & Barnes). Then, bad play calling was the death blow game after game.
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But Russell, or ANY QB for that matter, is suppossed to get the job done under those circumstances?
The game plan was flawed from training camp. Listen to what Jeff Garcia told you for goodness sakes. Believe your eyes! Why was this team not a pound the rock team from week 1? Why was the Russell to DHB thing forced down our throats.
I say we would have won more had we stuck to our running game with plenty of Bush and 2 TEs. Mix in McFadden with some creativity and throw the ball MAYBE 20 times a game. But NOOOOOOO. 4 verticals from our own end zone is what we got.
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Cable is a terrible offensive strategist and game planner and play caller…this we have known since week 4, when he should have been trying to hide the teams weaknesses with the young WR’s struggling QB with wildcat formations and two TE sets pounding the rock and short passing game, but forcing the ball downfield inadvertently….especially with Russell at QB was pure stubborness and stupidity.
Stubborness and stupidity….hmmm…kinda like what Al Davis has been all about the last 7 years.
December 29th, 2009 at 11:31 pm
In the real world, the Raiders are much like big business. If the business fails, the CEO usually escapes with a Golden umbrella. I see Al Davis getting away with the same schit. Al Davis is at the crux of all the problems we’ve been talking about yet, he still breathes and thrives. Nothing is really going to change as long as he is actively involved with this team. The players & coaches are merely the symptoms. Al Davis is the disease. Until the problem is removed, nothing changes.
December 29th, 2009 at 11:34 pm
Lefty,
Just stop it man, you sound silly!
I’ve said a million times that Russell should have been benched. I said it after week 2 for crying out loud! What is it with you?!?!?! Because I don’t stop at Jamarcus Fuggin Russell, then I support him? That makes NO DAMN SENSE!
To sit here and say that this team would be 8-8 had Bruce Gradkowski started the whole season is ludacris! For the same reasons you state about us needing an OC for crying out loud. For the same reasons you say Cable tried to patch an Oline together but IT DIDN”T WORK!
I’m still waiting on you to tell me which games we could have won with a different QB weeks 3-9?
December 29th, 2009 at 11:34 pm
Lefty, Lefty, calling Lefty!
Russell has played 1.5 years.
What about the other 5 years of double-digit losing?
December 29th, 2009 at 11:36 pm
just remember KK,the old goat you so much despise is the only person in the NFL who believes your boy Russell can be an outstanding QB in the league.
BTW,if you read what i said earlier,i said the old man has made the Raiders a joke and the laughing stock of the league.
December 29th, 2009 at 11:37 pm
If I was forced fed Russell I would have done the most basic of things. #1 would be copying every single play he ran at LSU that gained yards. These plays run by professionals should work even better than the way 18-20 yr olds ran them. This is what got Russell drafted #1 so obviously some 60% or more of it worked. Then I would have made adjustments according to that. If you gotta put Russell in the shotgun the whole game so be it.
December 29th, 2009 at 11:38 pm
Didn’t know the plays Lefty ????
Well LMFAO at Cable trotting a guy out there who didn’t know the playbook!
I’ve seen the same sorry arss plays run with Frye and Grads as I did with Russell in there. Maybe less vertical routes since DHB went out. BUt Fargas left, Fargas right, pass is still the norm.
I don’t see any audibles because Cable takes too long to get the play in. I saw Fyre and Grads do the same silly hand wiggles acting like he’s audibling and then we run. Same BS offense, same BS results!
December 29th, 2009 at 11:39 pm
Lefty12 Says:
December 29th, 2009 at 11:36 pm
BTW,if you read what i said earlier,i said the old man has made the Raiders a joke and the laughing stock of the league.
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Then why do you focus your attention on Russell?
December 29th, 2009 at 11:40 pm
Lefty …
What happened in Denver the week before last? Russell get lucky or something?
December 29th, 2009 at 11:43 pm
Jhill,you constantly deflect all blame from him.and i do believe we would have been close to or at 8-8 if Gradkowski or Garcia had started the whole year.my opinion,just as it is yours we wouldn’t have been any better no matter who played.
December 29th, 2009 at 11:50 pm
KK-because he sucks and was the anchor around this teams neck this year.Jhill-to be honest,yes.did you not see the frustration shown by Murphy on that great pass he threw him?was it a coincidence the other QBs weren’t sacked at all the whole game but Russell was sacked 2 or 3 times in the last few minutes?he had many play he could have made to make it so it didn’t come down to the last play and he didn’t make them.Stewart and Schilens had as much to do with that win as Russell.
December 29th, 2009 at 11:50 pm
Lefty, paging Lefty. Please pick up the white courtesy phone.
Maybe Gradkowski wins 8 games, maybe not, with the league game planning him, who knows. All we know is what happened.
But what’s your obsession with Russell when he has played only 1.5 years. Why not an passionate obsession with Davis, who makes all decisions as General Manager, and whose troubles far out date the arrival of Russell?
09′ 5-10
08′ 5-11
07′ 4-12
06′ 2-14
05′ 4-12
04′ 5-11
03′ 4-12
December 29th, 2009 at 11:54 pm
I tend to agree with Lefty that had JaBustus not played this year and Gacia and/or Gradkowski had played the whole schedule our results would have bee better, quite possibly 8-8 or even better. the whole team semed to have played better when JaBustus wasn’t in there. There’s a reason for that and it’s called no respect for JR. He hasn’t earned it and he won’t get it just because he was a #1 pick. As a professional player, he quite simply sucks for a myriad of reasons. We won a few games we probably shouldn’t have. Conversely, we lost many that we probably should have won.
December 29th, 2009 at 11:54 pm
lefty12 Says:
December 29th, 2009 at 11:43 pm
Jhill,you constantly deflect all blame from him.
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If you say so bruh …
But you agree with me that we need a new OC, DHB shouldn’t have been starting, and our Oline is a mess, lol!
December 29th, 2009 at 11:55 pm
BTW,KK,i also believe the reason he was allowed to play as long as he did was because of the old man.i don’t think the coaches had a choice earlier in the year.only after he proved he was inept did the old man allow him to be benched.same can be said for DHB.
December 29th, 2009 at 11:57 pm
Ok JB …
Fair enough. Maybe you can take a shot a which games you think we would have won had the anchor not been the QB.
Lefty seems to be having trouble with that one.
December 29th, 2009 at 11:58 pm
Lefty12 Says:
December 29th, 2009 at 11:55 pm
BTW,KK,i also believe the reason he was allowed to play as long as he did was because of the old man.i don’t think the coaches had a choice earlier in the year.only after he proved he was inept did the old man allow him to be benched.same can be said for DHB.
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So why don’t I hear your vehemence against the root of all evil?
December 30th, 2009 at 12:00 am
KK-i agree with you about Davis,but it does no good to abscess about that only all the time.maybe i’m doing the same thing, only with Russell,but like you with the old man,it bothers me to see people still defending him.
December 30th, 2009 at 12:00 am
Lefty
You are right and that proves KK’s point. The failure we’ve witnessed this last decade can all be traced back to one individual – Al Davis. It’s his handprints that are all over this team and it’s his thumb that has held this franchise in the cellar. His ego is bigger than this team. It all about Al and therein lies the problem.
December 30th, 2009 at 12:06 am
# jhill Says:
December 29th, 2009 at 11:57 pm
Ok JB …
Fair enough. Maybe you can take a shot a which games you think we would have won had the anchor not been the QB.
Lefty seems to be having trouble with that one.
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I’m old and have too many senbior moments. I can tell you about who did what back in rhe 60’s, 70’s & 80’s but short term bad memories are not stored for recall. My asessment about wins will just have to be based on common sense. Better players usually compute into better results. Can’t support my opinion with hard facts just gut feel and years of experience. I was there and saw the real Raiders. For that I am thankful.
December 30th, 2009 at 12:06 am
Russell failed miserably this year.
BUT, Al Davis ALONE is ultimately responsible for the Raiders. He’s the General Manager/Owner. The proceeds go to him.
Gnite fellas.
December 30th, 2009 at 12:06 am
Jhill-to be honest,yes.did you not see the frustration shown by Murphy on that great pass he threw him?was it a coincidence the other QBs weren’t sacked at all the whole game but Russell was sacked 2 or 3 times in the last few minutes?he had many play he could have made to make it so it didn’t come down to the last play and he didn’t make them.Stewart and Schilens had as much to do with that win as Russell.
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Of course it was luck, lol!
The other QBs weren’t sacked the whole game? Didn’t Frye get knocked out of the game? He only had 83 yds passing for the game man, so what are you really saying? And how many sacks did Frye take this past week? How many picks?
Murphy was frustrated at Russell bouncing the pass? LOL! At least I’m sure you’ll admit that you THINK that is what was going on IN HIS HEAD, lol!
Many plays to make so it didn’t come down to the last minute? WTF does that mean? B/C we all saw it from Charlie Frye, right?
You got it bad man. Russell-itis!
December 30th, 2009 at 12:06 am
Jhill,that is an impossible question to answer and you know it.with a different QB in there games would have played out totally differently.the Giants and the Jets don’t jump out to huge early leads.we beat KC and maybe SD-twice.with Grad. or Garcia we beat Clev.and most likely Wash.as i said,it is impossible to know how things would have played out,but they couldn’t have been as bad as they were with the anchor.
December 30th, 2009 at 12:08 am
KK said it all. I gotta roll too. Good communicating with you all tonight.
December 30th, 2009 at 12:11 am
My parting shot: If we are smart, we’d trade for Troy Smith and we’d have our new young Rich Gannon. watch him this wekend if he plays. Then tell me he’s not the one. This is a golden opportunity that we should not let pass. He’s the real deal.
December 30th, 2009 at 12:15 am
Frye was knocked out after he threw a pass,not on a sack.besides,i wasn’t talking about him,i was talking Grad. and Garcia.you’re right Jhill,everybody watching the game say his frustration but you.the one thing you are correct about is my dislike for Russell.the guy is a fraud-as i heard an ex NFL lineman call him.i can’t understand how someone like you who has football knowledge can still defend him in any way!
December 30th, 2009 at 12:15 am
I’m going to end it with this Lefty.
If the anchor was such THE problem, you would think that we would not need to replace the OC, 3/5 of the Oline, and pray that DHB doesn’t get back in the lineup. It should just be as simple as plugging Grads in next year and rolling.
But we ALL know that in fact we DO need to make all those above changes.
The fact that we have 30 million dollars invested in something, you would think that trying to get something back for that would be such a big deal. Especially with the glimpses you saw last year despite all the BS.
December 30th, 2009 at 12:24 am
Jhill,i will also drop it after this.i am not saying we would have been a ‘contender’ by just benching the anchor.we need to do all the things you point out to be that.but we would have been much more competitive and had a much better record had he been benched for the whole season.we would,imo,had a better grasp of what should be a priority and if the HC was capable or not.that is why i call him the anchor.i also believe the way the team came together after he was benched proves he was dragging the team down.
December 30th, 2009 at 4:03 am
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December 30th, 2009 at 4:46 am
Good morning NATION!!!!
Congratulations Nnamdi and Shane!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
December 30th, 2009 at 4:46 am
Sea-Bass WAS ROBBED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
December 30th, 2009 at 5:04 am
strategy…
tactics…
personnel…
December 30th, 2009 at 5:06 am
Good Morning Nation, The Only Nation.
So how far did we get on the trade Nnamdi debate?
Where do we stand in the demoting or flat out cutting ties with Cable?
Is Jmac coming back next season?
Will the Raiders use M-Bush as trade bate, maybe to the Pats for Wilfork?
How does Clady make the pro bowl and Henderson does not?
There stats are compatible, and i believe Henderson played better (a lttle biased on my part).
December 30th, 2009 at 5:15 am
strategy…
is cable a good strategist???
on offense…
prior to the season beginning, it was widely accepted that the raiders strength would be running the ball…
and that our weakness would be passing the ball…
compound that with personnel decisions… utilizing two rookies to start from day one… refusing to utilize the three million dollar man Javon Walker… failing to inspire/motivate/force our QB to become what he was paid to be… our passing game did not do well…
compound that with a refusal to run with whata should have been our team’s strength… running the ball… and again a refusal to utilize personnel to the best of their abilities… well the results are in…
5-10…
time for Cable to go…
dump the ZBS and get real o-linemen…
vendettas need to stop…
professionalism needs to be encouraged…
time for a professional head coach…
time for a profesional general manager…
December 30th, 2009 at 5:31 am
In my opinion Cable has a lot of blame on his shoulders. If he would have utilized the running game i do believe would have had a better season. Less sacks and more time to throw the ball and build his confidence. Cable failed badly his playcalling is not NFL caliber. The O-Line is a mess also hand picked by Cable, now we have a 3rd string QB playing. Jmac is not mobile so the O-Line blames him for it cause they cant block. Cable for some reason thinks M-Bush is not the guy he wants in there. I do believe Jmac and DHB should be playing in a lost season finale, the reality is they will be back well DHB will. So he needs reps and he needs to end the season on a high note.
December 30th, 2009 at 5:37 am
Ah Dubs fans and their moral victories gotta love loser teams and their fans. I don’t like Jruss but we were losing long before he got here and can’t blame him for D never stopping the run, please get a real MLB and don’t waste time moving Morrison he’ll just miss tackles over their to.
GO RAIDERS!
GO LAKERS!!!!!
December 30th, 2009 at 5:40 am
Off-Season Directives to Al Davis
Step#1 Cut Javon Walker, Cornell Green, and Gerard Warren.
Step#2 Re-sign Richard Seymour, Bruce Gradkowski, and and Kirk Morrison.
Step#3 Find two new offensive tackles and a nose tackle, heavily in the draft.
Step#4 Try to get Gruden in, if not, then give Cable one more year.
Step#5 Start Gradkowski, and make JaMarcus, JaMinkus, JaBustus, JaFatbut, or whoever he really is, wear the headset. Just make sure he doesn’t get his jewelry caught in it.
Losses we had this year, which should have been wins.
– San Diego – week 1
– Kansas City – week 10
– Washington – week 14
Would have put us at 8-7.
December 30th, 2009 at 5:46 am
Yep a hand-picked line Al picked for him.Cable did not draft these guys how many times has this been said.
Cable has only been in charge 1.5 years and most seem to think he’s been here the whole 7 years.
D’OH
December 30th, 2009 at 5:47 am
What do all those games we should have won have in common. Those are all teams we could have ran on. The Chargers were being manhandled until we stopped running the ball. So lets keep blaming Jmac, as i recall he kept us in the game against the Chargers.
December 30th, 2009 at 5:47 am
Well,good morning NMF!
December 30th, 2009 at 5:48 am
In charge yes but on the staff he has been here longer saying he can find linemen in the later rounds cause of his style of zone blocking.
December 30th, 2009 at 5:50 am
Good Morning Nation!!!
What’s up 4eva, R8dr4lfe, Pete, and whoa…what’s up NMF?
Repeat selections, huh? Congrats to them (again)…
LakeCounty…remember…we had a shot at winning in SD also…9-6, maybe?
December 30th, 2009 at 5:51 am
Wait…last week should have been…10-5
December 30th, 2009 at 5:57 am
Good morning hwndr,
Cable is blaming Jmac, sounds like a cop out to me. Jmac is the easy target he knows the media and the fans agree, and it takes the spotlight off of his play calling. He is in denial just like Jmac, saying his playcalling has been great for the most part. Cable is a goner and so now he is talking, cause i recall his praise for Jmac in the early part of the year. I remember him saying the WR werent helpig the cause, now it’s Jmac is not putting in the work (true) but by the looks of it neither is Cable.
December 30th, 2009 at 6:09 am
congrats to Shane & Nnamdi!
Dallas Clark: 93 catches, 1054 yards & 10 TD’s
Antonio Gates: 78 catches, 1145 yards & 7 TD’s
Zach Miller: 59 catches, 767 yards & 2 TD’s
if we only had a QB… impressive season for Miller though considering the 2 concussions!
December 30th, 2009 at 6:12 am
I think Miller is the only constant with the QB’s.
Our WR’s are young with tremendous upside and that includes DHB. Cant wait to see how much more prepared comes in next season and the health of Schilens also.
December 30th, 2009 at 6:13 am
A good morning to the AM crew.
December 30th, 2009 at 6:15 am
Been missing for a few days,so sorry if this has already been talked about…
Trade for Troy Smith?
December 30th, 2009 at 6:17 am
Trade our 2nd rounder for Troy Smith? hmmm sounds like a deal. Having an open competition next season at RB, WR, QB with a true fullback and power O-Line. Hell lets trade right now, and i will renew my season tickets. Oh and fire Cable.
December 30th, 2009 at 6:19 am
a healthy Zach Miller this season with 1 QB instead of 3 might have made a serious push for the Pro Bowl.
However, the Colts & Chargers have a combined 4 losses this season. the Raiders have 10!
December 30th, 2009 at 6:20 am
Smith is a rescrited free agent. Could be had with a fouth round tender.
December 30th, 2009 at 6:21 am
Draft Havilla FB USC with late third or early fourth. Guy is a good blocker also a great playmaker.
December 30th, 2009 at 6:22 am
Miller needs to be running more routes instead of staying in to block. With more running plays “M-Bush” we would be running playaction with great success. But instead Cable seems to think with our powerfull O-Line and mobile sloth I mean Jmac sorry, that we can pass all day.
December 30th, 2009 at 6:23 am
Hellsbells,
great knowledge even better.
December 30th, 2009 at 6:23 am
Been thinking ’bout it.If we trade for Smith then Russell is gone.Can we afford to use a pick on another rookie QB when there are so many other problem areas ?
He wants a trade because he wants to play – so what happens to Grad ? Will he be happy being a back-up/will he stay ?
Lots of what ifs…
December 30th, 2009 at 6:27 am
If Al trades for Smith…I think he should extend Grads also. Well, that’s if Cable and staff is still here because Grads knows the system (what system? idk)…
December 30th, 2009 at 6:27 am
i’m not convinced Troy Smith could beat out Gradkowski, Frye, Losman & Southwick …
Russell, Otis, Tui or Walter? yes!!!
2nd rounder is WAY to much for him. That would be another wasted pick like we gave Atlanta for MeAngelo
December 30th, 2009 at 6:29 am
What if, what if, what if. I think thats always the case when talking about our beloved team. What if the immaculate deception was called right, what if gruden never left would we have won the super bowl, what if the tuck game was called correctly, what if Gallery was a stud at LT, what if Jmac was as advertised. Wow what a dynasty we would have had. Now back to reality our team is in dissaray lol. Nice to what if though feels good to feel like a winner now and then hahaha.
December 30th, 2009 at 6:32 am
Hwnrdr…
Do you not think it could be a problem ? Smith wants to start.Grad,because of how he’s played,we get offers and will also want to start.
December 30th, 2009 at 6:33 am
Ok just a thought.
In training camp our D plays against our O right?
So we should have had an idea that either our O sucked or our D was gonna suck. If our D was beating up our O with QB pressures and int’s and what not. Then why didnt we insist on a more mobil QB. Now if Russell was tearing up our D then why wouldnt we insist on more pressure calls like were playing now.
December 30th, 2009 at 6:34 am
Think about it…
2001 — Siragusa’s fat a** falls on Gannon on purpose (and no flag)…baltimore wins the SB.
2002 — Tuck Rule game — enough said
2003 — Gruden on the other side and Callahan forgets?
Would that have been 3 in a row? And if…and we lost 7 years in a row…would everyone else (haters) still be talking?
But…back to reality…IT DID NOT HAPPEN!!! Dam it!
December 30th, 2009 at 6:36 am
R8dr4lfe21…
Last Saturday,and again last night,they showed “America’s Game” with the ‘76 Raiders…..
For 1 hour everything was right in the world…….
December 30th, 2009 at 6:36 am
Neilb…you’re right. Where do you think Grads will start though? back to the Rams? It would be a good competition, though, right?
December 30th, 2009 at 6:38 am
What if Moss actually played when with us, what if Al Davis actually let the coaches coach, what if we drafted for heart and knowledge instead of freakish #’s.
December 30th, 2009 at 6:39 am
Neilb yes it was.
The biggest what if in my opinion. What if Bo Jackson never got freakishly hurt.
December 30th, 2009 at 6:41 am
Hwnrdr…
Agreed.It will be good competition if we can get both of them.I’ll bet there’s a few teams out there that will offer Grad good money to be a back-up behind a young QB.
December 30th, 2009 at 6:42 am
Love Nnamdi. But imagine if we could trade him for both of SF firts rounders this year. We could rebuid our D and O-line in one year. We would have picks somewhere around 9, 11, and 13 in an uncapped year. We could take Mcoy DY, Williams RT, and McClain MLB. Round two the OG from Idaho. Huge upgrade. As long as Nnamdi is not shadowing hte others team best wideout we might as well move him. If used correctly never make this trade.
December 30th, 2009 at 6:43 am
I love how the story about Aso going to the Pro Bowl shows a picture of him being beaten for a touchdown in Dallas. Classic!
December 30th, 2009 at 6:45 am
Ok…in 2004…what if Gannon didn’t get that career ending hit by Brooks in week 3?
December 30th, 2009 at 6:45 am
nobody is going to give Bruce friggin Gradkowski starter money fellas. I’m sorry to burst your bubbles. not unless it’s Al Davis. Graddy had 2 good games and 2 awful ones. The fact that he outplayed Jamarcus doesn’t really stand out to anybody else. Russell is/was the worst starting QB in the NFL. Graddy is a journeyman. 3 teams in the last 3 years. Browns & Bucs didn’t even want to keep him as a 3rd string guy. Raiders chose him instead of Garcia to backup JR because he wasn’t a threat. he wasn’t even considered competition. he only got a chance to play because JR proved to be a sack of trash. Graddy proved he has some worth coming off the bench for a few games, but a 16 game starter? doubtful he’s on anybody’s wish list unless they are looking for a #2 QB
December 30th, 2009 at 6:46 am
NO…Nnamdi to SF and we play them next year? NO!
Although, I do get your point!!!
December 30th, 2009 at 6:48 am
Could we afford 3 first round picks ?
December 30th, 2009 at 6:48 am
Gannon was not any teams wish list either. Also he was a journey man also. I say sign him to a moderate three year deal and allow him to compete for the starting job. We need depth anyway.
December 30th, 2009 at 6:49 am
I think Al should lock them both up (Grads and Frye) to coach our next qb on how you NEED to get it done!
Ok, just kidding guys on the coaching part, but…
December 30th, 2009 at 6:49 am
Bells,
Agreed. I thought we should have traded him last year while tagged. 5 wins this year & last year.
was it worth 15 million?
December 30th, 2009 at 6:50 am
Wasn’t Gannon the starter in KC? I forget already…
December 30th, 2009 at 6:50 am
Al could sell his life serum to raise money for three first rounders.
December 30th, 2009 at 6:57 am
later gents. time to get some work done
December 30th, 2009 at 6:57 am
I HAVE WORK TOO. SEE YOU AT THE GAME ANYONE ELSE GOING
December 30th, 2009 at 6:59 am
It’s a bit too far me.
December 30th, 2009 at 7:00 am
“for” me.sorry.
December 30th, 2009 at 7:02 am
It’s a bit too far for me.
That’s better,although the joke’s fallen flat.
December 30th, 2009 at 7:06 am
I’ll be there 130 – row 31
December 30th, 2009 at 7:14 am
Redskins paid $100 million for Albert Haynesworth
he didn’t make the Pro Bowl and they will finish with 4 wins.
glad Al Davis isn’t the only IDIOT owner …
December 30th, 2009 at 7:15 am
Haynesworth was hurt a lot this year also!
December 30th, 2009 at 7:21 am
Kevin Williams, Darnell Dockett & Jay Ratliff made Haynesworth look like a bad investment?
I think fat albert got paid and quit on his new team
December 30th, 2009 at 7:23 am
#214
“Al could sell his life serum to raise money for three first rounders.”
I don’t know when I have laughed so hard.
December 30th, 2009 at 7:28 am
As far as Haynesworth goes, I’d like to see the Redskins put their foot down….
December 30th, 2009 at 7:29 am
I think Seymour will do the same unless Al slaps the franchise tag on him …
December 30th, 2009 at 7:29 am
You know….stamp out that kind of deal…
December 30th, 2009 at 7:30 am
I’m really leaving this time. haha
got a meeting
December 30th, 2009 at 7:31 am
If we play the Pats next year I think Seymour will stick around.
December 30th, 2009 at 7:34 am
# hellsbells Says:
December 30th, 2009 at 6:57 am
I HAVE WORK TOO. SEE YOU AT THE GAME ANYONE ELSE GOING
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I’m coming out, all the way from D.C. They’re my boys, regardless of how Skeletor is running/ruining things right now!
December 30th, 2009 at 7:38 am
If the schedule rotation holds true, we’d be playing the four NFC West teams and the four teams from the AFC South next year, plus a team from the AFC North. It doesn’t look like we would go against the Pats next year – unless – God forbid – we’re talking PLAYOFFS!
December 30th, 2009 at 7:39 am
Unless we bring in Warner or someone like that….Grads will not lose the QB competition,bring em on!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
December 30th, 2009 at 7:39 am
It seems to me Al Davis has ignored Madden and the Madden-era players. Look at the Raiders Web site as an example. There you have Jim Plunkett, JaMarcus Russell, and Willie Brown, all of them Al guys. How do you exclude John Madden, Kenny Stabler, Casper, Shell, Upshaw, Branch, Biletnikoff? It’s Al’s not so subtle way of saying it is AD who has made the Raiders great, although Madden won BIG contrary to Al’s football philosophy. Al wants to focus only on the Plunkett era. And since Al has taken total control without decenters, we have been losers, horrible losers, worse than any other team in NFL football history. The greatness of the Raiders lies in the past, not its future. THANKS Al!
December 30th, 2009 at 7:40 am
# RaiderRockstar Says:
December 30th, 2009 at 7:14 am
Redskins paid $100 million for Albert Haynesworth
he didn’t make the Pro Bowl and they will finish with 4 wins.
glad Al Davis isn’t the only IDIOT owner …
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Can Haynesworth play quarterback?
December 30th, 2009 at 7:40 am
Thanks Raidertbone,wasn’t sure who we were playing from the AFC.
December 30th, 2009 at 7:41 am
raidertbone Says:
December 30th, 2009 at 7:38 am
If the schedule rotation holds true, we’d be playing the four NFC West teams and the four teams from the AFC South next year, plus a team from the AFC North. It doesn’t look like we would go against the Pats next year – unless – God forbid – we’re talking PLAYOFFS!
Yup…and we got the 9ers and Seahawks at home!
December 30th, 2009 at 7:43 am
Here’s a tissue CaptainBlack
December 30th, 2009 at 7:44 am
lmao Capt!!!!
December 30th, 2009 at 7:44 am
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qwq7BYOnDrM
Playoffs ???
December 30th, 2009 at 7:46 am
Let’s face it — for continuity’s sake, Cable will probably be back at least one more year; but I think he has to finish at least .500 or better. Gradkowski will be back, but I think they will allow open competition, which will probably also include JellyRoll. Our best bet is to simply focus on building the D-Line and O-Line through free agency and the draft — and I really hope we take either McClain or Dunlap with our first pick this year. Forget all the talk about Troy Smith and Jason Campbell — the WHOLE TEAM needs to get better. Install a revamped offensive scheme, with D-Mac getting more swing passes, a la Reggie Bush, and our OWN Bush toting the rock a lot more. Things can get better; in some regards, we’re not that far off … however, in other regards, we’re a million miles away!
December 30th, 2009 at 7:48 am
4eva, am I wrong?
December 30th, 2009 at 7:49 am
hellsbells Says:
December 30th, 2009 at 6:48 am
Gannon was not any teams wish list either. Also he was a journey man also. I say sign him to a moderate three year deal and allow him to compete for the starting job. We need depth anyway.
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um, i don’t really want to sign Gannon at this particular point in time…
December 30th, 2009 at 7:49 am
Sometimes find Youtube interesting.Found a good trainer for JaMarcus the other day.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MIl5RxhLZ5U
December 30th, 2009 at 7:51 am
Refute it 4eva.
December 30th, 2009 at 7:51 am
Although I can hear JaMarcus…”what am I on ? Burgers,6 hours a day,filling my ass”
December 30th, 2009 at 7:52 am
Well yes and no Captn,imo
December 30th, 2009 at 7:53 am
it is all opinion, correct?
December 30th, 2009 at 7:54 am
Thankx Neilb….thats always fun!
December 30th, 2009 at 7:55 am
4eva…always brings a smile to my face !
December 30th, 2009 at 7:55 am
JaMarcus “Supersize Me” Russell…
Surprised that McD’s don’t take advantage!!!
December 30th, 2009 at 7:56 am
Raiders chose him instead of Garcia to backup JR because he wasn’t a threat.
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Jeff Garcia ASKED to be released from the Cable plan. He wanted NO part of that.
December 30th, 2009 at 7:58 am
Morning NATION! Nnamdi with the back to back PB’s nice.
December 30th, 2009 at 8:00 am
There are many variables that have led us to this point Captn imo
December 30th, 2009 at 8:02 am
4eva, what does Willie Brown really do? I read he was giving outdated advice to CJ? Is he a coach?
December 30th, 2009 at 8:03 am
4eva, you are being vague? Explain those variables, if you would.
December 30th, 2009 at 8:04 am
IMO is redundant. It is all opinion here.
December 30th, 2009 at 8:05 am
Asst Head Coach/Offensive Coordinator !!!!!!!!
Make Cable coach the Oline during the week, and manage the sidelines on Sundays.
Replace RT, and start BIG Langston at RG.
Pound Bush minimum 20 times a game.
Play Meyers and Miller A LOT more together.
Get DMAC and DHB in the slot and matched up against LBs and S.
May the best man win out of Russell and Grads in camp next year.
December 30th, 2009 at 8:09 am
There is only one person capable of leading us in a particular direction, 4eva. And the results reflect those decision previously made.
December 30th, 2009 at 8:10 am
Why did it take until week 14 to see the Jumbo package? 2 TE set with an extra OT as a 3rd TE and only 1 WR? Pounded the shyt outta the Donkeys all the way down the field. Didn’t even have to pass.
Pete is right!
Where was this running game all year?
December 30th, 2009 at 8:10 am
Ok Captn….You are partially right when you say the greatness of the Raiders is in its past,well of course is true.But at the end of your comment you also stated but NOT in its future…..I think you’re wrong ….Soo yes and no
December 30th, 2009 at 8:13 am
Time for me to go….
Have fun…
December 30th, 2009 at 8:14 am
How about the rest of the post? Your response did not enlighten anyone, was that your intent?
December 30th, 2009 at 8:14 am
This year seemed like a “let’s prove Lane Kiffin was wrong” campaign.
Maybe that’s why the plan coming out of the gate was to be an air show. Kiffin ran the ball 40 times a game with the great QB prospect back there and we didn’t win, so to prove it was his fault, we’re going to air it out.
December 30th, 2009 at 8:14 am
Exactly JHill…it was like…should we try this now…?
December 30th, 2009 at 8:15 am
I dont think Al would lead us in the particular direction of the Tuck Rule….Inaccurate reception….Robbins flippin out….siragusa fat azz….
To say 1 individual is responsible for all that has transpired over the last 50 frikken years is naive at best
December 30th, 2009 at 8:22 am
I am talking from ‘86 to the present. He ran off a lot of administrative talent from the team. What did George Anderson say about loyalty?
December 30th, 2009 at 8:24 am
He makes decisions without fear of accountability. What did John Rauch say?
December 30th, 2009 at 8:27 am
I dont recall what Atkinson said but either way for the last 50 years or even sinse ‘86,to say 1 man is responsible for ALL that has past is naive at best….hell I’ll even go ya 1 better….To say 1 man is responsible for everything that is going on around him is naive at best.
Big Al sets wheel’s in motion….some intended,some not
December 30th, 2009 at 8:28 am
# jhill Says:
December 30th, 2009 at 8:14 am
This year seemed like a “let’s prove Lane Kiffin was wrong” campaign.
Maybe that’s why the plan coming out of the gate was to be an air show. Kiffin ran the ball 40 times a game with the great QB prospect back there and we didn’t win, so to prove it was his fault, we’re going to air it out.
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If that’s true, why did we run the ball so well (under Cable) the last two weeks of the season last year — and knock a team out of the playoffs at the same time? We started doing the same thing against SD in Game One — then, the wheels just came off: JRuss became JCrap, DHB couldn’t catch a cold, injuries mounted and the defense continued to play patty-cake (when they weren’t getting pancaked!) And how about all the concussions this year?! I think we were starting to turn the corner — then, too many bee stings caused a very bad allergic reaction … the Cincy, Pittsburgh and Denver games showed everyone flashes of what COULD be … we need to fully turn that corner next year!
December 30th, 2009 at 8:29 am
It seems to me, and again, my opinion, everything done by the Raiders is done with Al’s legacy in mind. It is not about winning, it’s about his legacy, his genius.
December 30th, 2009 at 8:31 am
4eva, you give him all the credit and deflect blame.
December 30th, 2009 at 8:35 am
WOW
December 30th, 2009 at 8:36 am
Ok here is an idea, since we all want Al to suck it up and hire Gruden again. Why not go all out and hire a GM and head coach with 1 shot. Bring back Shanahan, how many of us would welcome him back? maybe even just as a GM. Just a thought dont go bashing me lol.
December 30th, 2009 at 8:37 am
4eve, didn’t Al remind Tom Keating who really wielded the power Oakland? Decisions as small as wastecans as I recall.
December 30th, 2009 at 8:38 am
Oh I’m sure Al has stepped on his d!ck many times
December 30th, 2009 at 8:40 am
I would welcome him back, then maybe we can keep Cable.
Imagine Shanahan running the team that means a huge pay increase maybe he might go for it. I think that was another Al Davis mistake letting him go “firing him”.
December 30th, 2009 at 8:43 am
I want no part of ratface…
December 30th, 2009 at 8:44 am
But he has stepped on it as a result of legacy preservation, not with an eye to winning. His legacy was winning, not AD, genius.
December 30th, 2009 at 8:46 am
I want no part of Templeton the Rat in Oakland
December 30th, 2009 at 8:47 am
Face it folks … Gruden ain’t coming back!
December 30th, 2009 at 8:47 am
HELL NO 2 RATFACE
December 30th, 2009 at 8:48 am
Al wont allow Gruden back. He might want to remove Willie Brown as coach
December 30th, 2009 at 8:48 am
As a GM i would take him back in a heartbeat.
December 30th, 2009 at 8:51 am
Shanna-rat is most likely going to reunite with his old pal Bruce Allen in D.C. Hey, that means that future Hall-of-Fame coach Jim Zorn (and his former Bingo play-caller) could be available to coach the Silver and Black! I can see it now: G-29, run to the right; B-12, ohhhhh — dropped pass!!
December 30th, 2009 at 8:53 am
Shanahan has the experience although i agree it will never happen. But if were asking for Al to suck it up and get someone why not him.
December 30th, 2009 at 8:55 am
I don’t think Al can afford another top 10 draft pick. I think he’s gonna cut his losses and trade out of the top pick via trading down in the draft or trading for a proven vet with few years left on his contract (ala Richard Seymore). No team can afford picking in the top 10 every year, no matter how carzy the owner is.
December 30th, 2009 at 8:57 am
Shanahan would never be allowed in Raiders HQ. And that decision I do support. Let Shanahan wrap his teeth around the Redskins organization
December 30th, 2009 at 8:58 am
If Cable is not the guy, it’s probably going to be either Fassell or Gilbride — that’s just my guess.
December 30th, 2009 at 9:00 am
Cable will be here another year. He makes no demands, and does not challenge Al.
December 30th, 2009 at 9:00 am
# los raiders de don rober Says:
December 30th, 2009 at 8:55 am
I don’t think Al can afford another top 10 draft pick. I think he’s gonna cut his losses and trade out of the top pick via trading down in the draft or trading for a proven vet with few years left on his contract (ala Richard Seymore). No team can afford picking in the top 10 every year, no matter how carzy the owner is.
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I agree; crazy me, but I still think there’s a deal out there that can bring Wilfork into Oakland … and reunite him with Seymour (and I like the sound of that!)
December 30th, 2009 at 9:02 am
r8dr4lfe21 Says:
December 30th, 2009 at 8:36 am
Ok here is an idea, since we all want Al to suck it up and hire Gruden again. Why not go all out and hire a GM and head coach with 1 shot. Bring back Shanahan, how many of us would welcome him back? maybe even just as a GM. Just a thought dont go bashing me lol.
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are you kidding me???
everybody pay attention: his post season record is 1-4 once Elway retired… rat face is not special… and if you think Al Davis sucks at drafting players… check this boy’s record…
DEN 1999 6 10 0 .375 5th in AFC West – - – -
DEN 2000 11 5 0 .688 2nd in AFC West Lost to Baltimore in AFC Wild-Card Game.
DEN 2001 8 8 0 .500 3rd in AFC West – - – -
DEN 2002 9 7 0 .563 2nd in AFC West – - – -
DEN 2003 10 6 0 .625 2nd in AFC West Lost to Indianapolis Colts in AFC Wild-Card Game.
DEN 2004 10 6 0 .625 2nd in AFC West Lost to Indianapolis Colts in AFC Wild-Card Game.
DEN 2005 13 3 0 .813 1st in AFC West Lost to Pittsburgh Steelers in AFC Championship Game.
DEN 2006 9 7 0 .563 3rd in AFC West
DEN 2007 7 9 0 .438 2nd in AFC West – - – -
DEN 2008 8 8 0 .500 2nd in AFC West
December 30th, 2009 at 9:03 am
Here’s my motto for the Raiders for next year:
“New Decade … Old School”
December 30th, 2009 at 9:04 am
Raidebone, I like that
December 30th, 2009 at 9:05 am
So if the colts make it to the superbowl
Freeney. Mathis. Clark won’t play in probowl
Does that mean Seymour & Miller get to play?
If so, I’m rooting for colts to the bowl.
Not sure what Seymour did this year to get alternate status
Must be reputation
December 30th, 2009 at 9:08 am
Some really good players on really bad teams sometimes get rewarded. Miller probably wouldn’t play anyway, though (concussion).
December 30th, 2009 at 9:09 am
I think for one of the first times in my life I will be avidly pulling for the Chefs this weekend!
December 30th, 2009 at 9:10 am
Bringing in a proven vet like Wilfork from a winning organization with a work-ethic type coach would do wonders for our locker room. I’ll take that every time over drafting some millionaire 22 year old who doesn’t know the ropes of the NFL
December 30th, 2009 at 9:12 am
Let’s see, if it’s a choice between bringing in someone like Wilfork vs. drafting another DHB … hmmmmmmmmm, let me just think about that!
December 30th, 2009 at 9:14 am
It’s a great day to be a Raiders fan. Isn’t it?
Man, KK — Can’t you make a point without offending every other poster on the board?
Another example of how you pontificate ad nauseum, make no sense at all (unless it’s “hate AL,” which we understand 1,000% already), and say nothing new. Except point out that everybody else but YOU are a lunatic:
KoolKell Says:
I know I sound like a broken record…
…/…Yet, the General Manager’s performance is verbotten conversation?
They’re in here talking about next year’s draft like lunatics.
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Umm, KK — The draft is 4 short months away. DUH! Even if we were Playoff bound, it’s NEVER too early to be talking about the draft.
For one of the more mature people in here (by age, not your actual “maturity,” which is an oxymoron when combined with his initials)…
…KK IS THE BIGGEST BANDWAGON-JUMPING “FAN” ON THIS BOARD.
KK rages against Al…whining about the past 7-years like nobody else has noticed. He supports NOT supporting his alleged favorite team…yet blames Al Davis for not saving the neighborhood with his untold billions of cash.
As if to prove himself right…KK is GLAD to have blackouts on Sundays, and less people working in/next door to his hometown, and less people watching their favorite team (win or lose, even!!), and less tax revenue for the City, and so on…
OK to blame AL for everything, right KK — makes it easier to ignore the failings in your own backyard.
One day Al will be gone KK…and then you’ll shrivel up and fade away…the same way your own happiness has faded away during your Al obsession.
Long live Al…and screw the NFL machine!
Oh, yeah…aim for SUH…and draft OL/DL/LB (in any order) early! Don’t ya think, KK?
December 30th, 2009 at 9:14 am
I’ll be glad to get Vince Wilfork in here.
is Al Davis ready to get rid of Warren & Kelly though?
it’s gonna take some MEGABUCKS deals for Seymour & Wilfork to sign long term deals in Oakland imo
eventually we’ll have to find a replacement for Greg Ellis too. he’s pretty old and brittle. still like him better than Burgess though!
is Shaughnessy ready? Scott is too light. probably better suited for WLB or 3rd & long situations
December 30th, 2009 at 9:14 am
With the cheap coaches Al hires you need professional players who need no development for this team to succeed. The last time we were any good at developing talent Gunther Cunningham was our D-line coach and we were developing linemen like Chester Mc, Laroy Glover, and D. Coleman…
December 30th, 2009 at 9:17 am
Hayes, KK is not posting?
December 30th, 2009 at 9:21 am
With the money we have tied up with the 1st round busts, Kelly & Nnamdi I don’t think Al is looking for Megadelas…Al has was always been good at finding late round gems in the draft, let him get back to basics…
December 30th, 2009 at 9:21 am
Kelly has not played the way a man paid 50 million dollars should play. A significant portion of that money should go to Seymour.
December 30th, 2009 at 9:23 am
If we could get Wilfork who do we keep as the three tech. I almost perfer Warren at the three over Kelly. Kelly never gets any penetration any more.
December 30th, 2009 at 9:23 am
Make a trade for Wilfork, bring in Johnny Jolly (via free agency) and draft Dunlap (the fast, strong end with a nasty attitude). Then, we’d have Seymour, Ellis, Jolly, Wilfork and Dunlap up front — not to mention Shaugnessy. That would turn around our defense real quick!
December 30th, 2009 at 9:24 am
Buy the way Warren is going to make more then Kelly next year.
December 30th, 2009 at 9:26 am
Cut Warren & Kelly. Draft some huge DTs, and bring in the best D-line coach money can buy…you’ll save a ton of money Al.
December 30th, 2009 at 9:26 am
Chaz Schilens may become a star WR…but he isn’t.
JLH is far from becoming a star WR…maybe regressing?
Murphy has juice…can he be for real, long-term?
DHB may be a star someday…a bust he isn’t. YET.
Watkins, Miller, anyone else…?
NO obvious playmakers, just potential. The Raiders need a proven, un-injured veteran WR added to the mix…along with another late-round gem. (Yes, Al actually makes some good finds — this decade even!)
December 30th, 2009 at 9:27 am
December 30th, 2009 at 6:42 am
Love Nnamdi. But imagine if we could trade him for both of SF firts rounders this year. We could rebuid our D and O-line in one year. We would have picks somewhere around 9, 11, and 13 in an uncapped year. We could take Mcoy DT, Williams RT, and McClain MLB. Round two the OG from Idaho. Huge upgrade. As long as Nnamdi is not shadowing the others team best wideout we might as well move him. If used correctly never make this trade.
Any comments
December 30th, 2009 at 9:28 am
We can’t worry about who is going to make the most money — we just have to worry about who is going to show up to play, vs. just showing up to get paid (which is the same mentality that Daniel Snyder has carved out over here in D.C.)
December 30th, 2009 at 9:29 am
could we trade Huff and a 3rd rounder to Baltimore in exchange for Derrick Mason & Troy Smith?
I love Mike Huff, but he scheduled to make over 5 million next year and they drafted Mike Mitchell for a reason
December 30th, 2009 at 9:30 am
# hellsbells Says:
December 30th, 2009 at 9:27 am
December 30th, 2009 at 6:42 am
Love Nnamdi. But imagine if we could trade him for both of SF firts rounders this year. We could rebuid our D and O-line in one year. We would have picks somewhere around 9, 11, and 13 in an uncapped year. We could take Mcoy DT, Williams RT, and McClain MLB. Round two the OG from Idaho. Huge upgrade. As long as Nnamdi is not shadowing the others team best wideout we might as well move him. If used correctly never make this trade.
Any comments
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While, on paper, it sounds good — Nnamdi’s locked up; he ain’t going ANYWHERE!
December 30th, 2009 at 9:32 am
Hellsbells. Al has 25 plus years building teams through free agency, never through the draft. Trade out of the 1st round. Gimme Boldin, Hines Ward, someone who produces, is a tough mfkr and is a leader in the locker room.
December 30th, 2009 at 9:34 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
December 30th, 2009 at 9:29 am
could we trade Huff and a 3rd rounder to Baltimore in exchange for Derrick Mason & Troy Smith?
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Why in the h- would we want Derrick Mason? The wide open TD pass he dropped against Pittsburgh looked just like DHB all over again. At least with our rookie we have speed and (hopefully) the chance to get better.
Troy Smith would do no better in this offensive scheme than either Grad-man or Frye-daddy.
December 30th, 2009 at 9:34 am
Remember when we brought in Romanowski? Lott? Eric Turner? Jerry Rice? Eric Allen? Albert Lewis? every one though they were done, they gave us some 3 great seasons and did wonders for the locker room.
December 30th, 2009 at 9:35 am
Mike Huff is the best Single deep S on the roster. Itg would be insane to trade that guy. Best DB we have next to Nnamdi.
December 30th, 2009 at 9:35 am
Rockstar, why would you trade a player is his prime for Derrick Mason, who is set to retire after the season?
December 30th, 2009 at 9:37 am
Most guys worth keeping after next year will be renegotiated with…some before the season even starts.
An uncapped year coming…with owners tightening belts, and no guarantee of a thriving economy in ‘11…means the players (read: non-superstars) better make wise and safe financial decisions next year.
Huff, JaMarcus (regardless what he says)…any number of guys will be renegotiating to longer, if not more profitable, contracts that keep them in jobs.
December 30th, 2009 at 9:37 am
# los raiders de don rober Says:
December 30th, 2009 at 9:32 am
Hellsbells. Al has 25 plus years building teams through free agency, never through the draft. Trade out of the 1st round. Gimme Boldin, Hines Ward, someone who produces, is a tough mfkr and is a leader in the locker room.
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Oh, I’d LOVE to see Hines Ward in a silver and black uniform! Give him Raymond Chester’s old number. What I wouldn’t give to see old Hines knock one of his former Steeler teammates into next week, while wearing a silver helmet.
December 30th, 2009 at 9:37 am
Troy Smith will be a FA
December 30th, 2009 at 9:38 am
He will be a RFA
December 30th, 2009 at 9:39 am
# los raiders de don rober Says:
December 30th, 2009 at 9:34 am
Remember when we brought in Romanowski? Lott? Eric Turner? Jerry Rice? Eric Allen? Albert Lewis? every one though they were done, they gave us some 3 great seasons and did wonders for the locker room.
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Don’t forget about Hall-of-Famer Rod Woodson.
December 30th, 2009 at 9:39 am
I thought Mason was only going to retire because of his friend Steve McNair’s death?
then he changed his mind and rejoined the Ravens a week later.
Mason: 72 catches, 1005 yards & 7 TD’s
would you guys rather keep Javon Walker for a vet mentor?
December 30th, 2009 at 9:39 am
Derrick Mason had to be talked out of retirement this year.
NO Derrick Mason, no matter how good he is.
December 30th, 2009 at 9:41 am
I think it’s safe to say when can lay any talk about Javon to rest … talk about Mr. Irrelevant!
December 30th, 2009 at 9:44 am
I think Javon is the exception to the rule. Al is pretty good at signing vets. He desperately signed Javon after the Moss disaster…
December 30th, 2009 at 9:44 am
Romanowski was a bad add…with a bad attitude. No matter what fire he brought to the field, he got burned all too often because he was slow. Slow and nasty doesn’t mean good. Sorry Romo was ever brought in, and wasn’t sorry when he checked out none-too-soon.
Romo was no Raider…he was a loner, hated throughout the league, and even in his own locker room.
December 30th, 2009 at 9:44 am
We missed a wonderful opportunity to bring in Brian Dawkins last year. We also had a chance to pull a few strings and bring in Anquan Boldin. Oh well, that’s all behind us; hopefully, any great chance we have in the offseason will be jumped on quickly — including re-structuring J-Fat’s contract.
December 30th, 2009 at 9:46 am
Man, Rod Woodson. Can you imagine if we could lure a HOF vet into the team now?
December 30th, 2009 at 9:47 am
# HayesDaze37 Says:
December 30th, 2009 at 9:44 am
Romanowski was a bad add…with a bad attitude. No matter what fire he brought to the field, he got burned all too often because he was slow. Slow and nasty doesn’t mean good. Sorry Romo was ever brought in, and wasn’t sorry when he checked out none-too-soon.
Romo was no Raider…he was a loner, hated throughout the league, and even in his own locker room.
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I totally agree … one of the few Raiders that absolutely disgusted me from Day One. I didn’t like him, and I have no respect for him … there, I’ve said it!
December 30th, 2009 at 9:48 am
3 Raiders are at the bottom of the heap in catch percentage but this has more to do with Russell than anything else. Notice the drops. Only a small percentage of those passes actually hit their hands. And we know Murphy was robbed on at least 1 catch.
http://espn.go.com/blog/afcwest/post/_/id/8512/afc-west-is-at-top-and-bottom-of-wr-target-list
December 30th, 2009 at 9:52 am
Satele, Carlisle & Green need to be replaced as starters on the O-Line. that should be task #1 for Cable & crew this offseason.
Give Sanjay Lal a job in the scouting dept or something. the guy has zero credentials to be a WR coach. is James Lofton still under contract? If not, get somebody else in here with EXPERIENCE. replace Javon with another vet WR. Why didn’t we make a play for Amani Toomer, Ike Hilliard or Joey Galloway? Chris Chambers would have been nice too.
Warren & Kelly need to take drastic paycuts just to stay on the team imo. for sure they aren’t starters unless a freak injury occurs or something. also need some bulk at LB. a run stuffing monster at MLB and a physical pass rushing freak at one OLB spot
I’m fine with a Russell/Gradkowski/Frye/Losman competition at QB next year as long as the best man wins, even if it isn’t the highest paid!
December 30th, 2009 at 9:53 am
# The Big Banana Says:
December 30th, 2009 at 9:48 am
3 Raiders are at the bottom of the heap in catch percentage but this has more to do with Russell than anything else. Notice the drops. Only a small percentage of those passes actually hit their hands. And we know Murphy was robbed on at least 1 catch.
http://espn.go.com/blog/afcwest/post/_/id/8512/afc-west-is-at-top-and-bottom-of-wr-target-list
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I wish you could’ve seen Russell in New York (actually, I don’t wish that on ANY Raiders fan — it would make you vomit). I don’t think I have ever in my life seen an NFL quarterback who stunk up the field so bad and then just casually walked off the field and sluffed it off … pretty much for the entire game. I don’t care what kind of arm and/or potential J-Fat may have — the impression I got then has stuck with me … he did-in the entire team and (metaphorically) shot the finger at Raider Nation. He’s done!
December 30th, 2009 at 9:55 am
We got rid of Sands last year; this year, we need to get rid of Warren.
December 30th, 2009 at 10:00 am
# raidertbone Says:
December 30th, 2009 at 9:44 am
We missed a wonderful opportunity to bring in Brian Dawkins last year. We also had a chance to pull a few strings and bring in Anquan Boldin. Oh well, that’s all behind us; hopefully, any great chance we have in the offseason will be jumped on quickly — including re-structuring J-Fat’s contract.
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So true, could have probably had Boldin instead of DHB without even using that 1st rounder.
December 30th, 2009 at 10:01 am
Ravens Ray Rice, Willis McGahee & Le’ron McClain have a combined 378 rushing attempts for 1821 yards & 18 TD’s.
They also have a combined 109 receptions for 903 yards & 3 TD’s.
thats a whopping 487 touches by RB’s for 2724 yards & 21 scores. average of 5.6 yards each time one of them gets the ball
who wants to guess which way they’ll attack us this week?
December 30th, 2009 at 10:03 am
Steve Breaston is a FA.
Logan Mankins OG PATS FA
Marcus McNeil OT Chargirls FA
Bushrod and the guard from NO are also fa
December 30th, 2009 at 10:04 am
# RaiderRockstar Says:
December 30th, 2009 at 10:01 am
Ravens Ray Rice, Willis McGahee & Le’ron McClain have a combined 378 rushing attempts for 1821 yards & 18 TD’s.
They also have a combined 109 receptions for 903 yards & 3 TD’s.
thats a whopping 487 touches by RB’s for 2724 yards & 21 scores. average of 5.6 yards each time one of them gets the ball
who wants to guess which way they’ll attack us this week?
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I think the bigger question is just how we plan to attack ourselves!
December 30th, 2009 at 10:04 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
December 30th, 2009 at 6:45 am
nobody is going to give Bruce friggin Gradkowski starter money fellas. I’m sorry to burst your bubbles. not unless it’s Al Davis. Graddy had 2 good games and 2 awful ones. The fact that he outplayed Jamarcus doesn’t really stand out to anybody else. Russell is/was the worst starting QB in the NFL. Graddy is a journeyman. 3 teams in the last 3 years. Browns & Bucs didn’t even want to keep him as a 3rd string guy. Raiders chose him instead of Garcia to backup JR because he wasn’t a threat. he wasn’t even considered competition. he only got a chance to play because JR proved to be a sack of trash. Graddy proved he has some worth coming off the bench for a few games, but a 16 game starter? doubtful he’s on anybody’s wish list unless they are looking for a #2 QB
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Everyone on here needs to read the above post from Rockstar. Right on point.
You guys are crazy to just hand this Gradkowski fellow starter money and the job….and have faith this guy is going to do anything.
3 teams in 3 years….A couple of decent games. This has happened before. Even JT O’Sullivan had a few good games for the 49ers…..
once coaches game plan him, I doubt he holds up.
Get some real deal competition and make this journeyman earn the job.
Beating out JaMarcus Russell means nothing. NOTHING!
December 30th, 2009 at 10:05 am
Dawkins would not have played any better than Branch has.
Gallery going down in week 2 left us with Chris Morris, Satele, Carlisle and Pears on the Oline.
McFadden going down in the Houston game?
Just an unfortunate year starting with the Chaz and Nick Miller injuries, and snowballing from there.
December 30th, 2009 at 10:05 am
As much as i would love Gruden to coach here, i don’t see it happening. Here’s why,
1) Al won’t pay the money he could get other places.(ie to the Snyder in Washington)
2) Gruden will bench underperforming players which are Al’s 1st round picks from the past 3 years. Al’s not having that, ask Kiffin how that worked out.
3) If he leaves the booth he could have almost any vacant head coach job he pleases. So why here in Oak? He could have the job at U of F right now with total control if he wanted to go that route.
December 30th, 2009 at 10:07 am
raidertbone Says:
December 30th, 2009 at 9:55 am
We got rid of Sands last year; this year, we need to get rid of Warren.
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Terdell Sands…LOL…some people on here thought he could play…..
Warren and Kelly need to go to the bench or be cut too!
Get a real NT in here that clogs the running lanes and lets the linebackers run free.
A great line can make a mediocre LB okay.
A great LB can’t do jack for a bad D-Line
Inside out is how to build. Until this Owner of ours figures that out, expect more 29 -32 ranked run defenses!
December 30th, 2009 at 10:08 am
LOL, SnB …
Funny thing is, Grads didn’t even beat out Jamarcus. Jamarcus LOST the job, Grads didn’t win it.
I will say that Grads should be brought back and given a shot at the title. Let Grads, Russell, and Losman COMPETE for the starters job and may the best man win.
December 30th, 2009 at 10:09 am
Also, STOP THE GRUDEN TALK!
What on earth is motivating this talk. He already said he isn’t coaching next year. Do you think he’s going to coach for Al Davis? Really? Do you pay attention?
Davis WILL NOT let his coaches pick the starting lineup, select their assistants, have any meaningful input into the draft and free agency and DAVIS WILL NOT pay the head coach market rates.
Give it up and focus on guys like Fassell and Gilbride.
That’s all DAvis can attract because of his FOOLISH managerial philosophy.
December 30th, 2009 at 10:10 am
Just an unfortunate year starting with the Chaz and Nick Miller injuries, and snowballing from there.
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Jhill: injuries are a part of the game. Gradkowski & Zach Miller’s hurt too.
Cable’s play calling and even Marshall’s at times was atrocious. cost us some games.
penalties continue to plague this team and we’re losing games we should win. no excuses for any of that
Javon Walker in the doghouse? Bush 3rd on the depth chart? terrible value for picks in the draft!
I’m not blaming INJURIES for our failures, past or present
December 30th, 2009 at 10:12 am
repost –
my appologies to S&B Defense.
I blamed 90 percent of the run defense on Rob Ryan last offseason. clearly Robbo still can’t stop the run in Cleveland, but we sure don’t have the players here in Oakland to get the job done either. I still think Marshall & Co were an improvement on defense, but HOW MUCH of one isn’t that glaring.
we should have drafted BJ Raji, even though Crabtree would fit nicely here (looking at DHB as the alternative)
December 30th, 2009 at 10:12 am
Jhill,
Agreed! The only thing Gradkowski earned is a right to compete next year. The right to be invited to camp to compete.
JT O’Sullivan, Ryan Fitzpatrick, hell even Derek Anderson have had a run or two here and there….but they aren’t freekn starters!
2 or 3 gms don’t mean jack at all.
And stop calling him “Grads”….he hasn’t earned a nickname yet.
I refuse to get excited about mediocre talent
December 30th, 2009 at 10:15 am
Injuries were a PART of the problem. Big difference between Gallery and Walker playing LG versus Chris Morris getting blown outta there. No coincidence the difference between the Washington game and the Denver game as far as why Morris was benched.
Chaz not being in there from day 1?
Cornell Greens BACKUP having to play?
Morrison dislocated elbow?
Nick Miller not returning kicks?
All those things didn’t matter? Of course injuries are a part of the game, and they also impact whether you can compete or not.
And yes Cable was bad A LOT this season, and Marshall early on. No argument there.
December 30th, 2009 at 10:16 am
HD37….I was and am pleasently suprised by Watkins.Last camp I didnt care if we cut him or not.Man am I glad we didnt.He came through in clutch situations for us tis year.Like I sad B4 when he goes across the middle short,there isnt a LB that can keep up with him,imo
December 30th, 2009 at 10:16 am
And stop calling him “Grads”….he hasn’t earned a nickname yet.
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LMFAO!
December 30th, 2009 at 10:18 am
We should NOT have drafted BJ Raji this year!
Should have been Alex Mack or Rey Maulauga!
December 30th, 2009 at 10:18 am
Rockstar,
We could have drafted ANYONE in the #7 slot and it would be an improvement over DHB.
Expect another athletic specimen in the draft this year. Some OT out of Maryland is putting up ridiculous measurables….but can he block? Better see if he can catch so that we can move him to TE if things fall down.
Draft pick after draft pick after draft pick…compounded by bad coaching and free agent moves.
They don’t stand a chance!
December 30th, 2009 at 10:19 am
Our run defense is much better this year than it was under Robo. Robo’s defense would give up 5 to 6 yds all the time, AND big plays. This year, we’re down to just the big plays, lol!
December 30th, 2009 at 10:21 am
Jhill: you can still win games despite missing injured starters.
Manning lost his favorite target Marvin Harrison in the offseason and then starter Anthony Gonzalez in Week 1. Garcon & Collie stepped up
Pats lost Tom Brady last season and still won 11 games with Matt Cassel. what has Cassel done this year?
Brownies lost Jamal Lewis and some Harrison kid ripped it up for them the past 2 weeks.
every team goes through this every year
December 30th, 2009 at 10:24 am
Should have been Alex Mack or Rey Maulauga!
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not in the Top 10
hard to know if anybody was willing to trade up and take that #7 pick …
December 30th, 2009 at 10:25 am
well whatever you guys think of Romanowski….he was a hard nose LB….the type attitude you need in a true LB.Some dont like him because blah blah blah…..but the sonofagun was a LB
December 30th, 2009 at 10:25 am
Good morning Nation,Price out of UCLA would be a fine addition to our defensive line.
December 30th, 2009 at 10:25 am
Fire everyone.
December 30th, 2009 at 10:26 am
Fire everyone.
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Winston Moss for next HC?
December 30th, 2009 at 10:28 am
Jhill….shoulda been Mack AND Rey-Rey
December 30th, 2009 at 10:28 am
BREAKING NEWS:
Miles Austin of Dallas, Brandon Marshall of Denver and six other Pro Bowl picks are among more than 200 NFL players who would lose their status as unrestricted free agents this offseason if the league and its union can’t agree on a new labor contract.
According to a list obtained by The Associated Press on Wednesday, there are 212 players who would be considered restricted free agents – instead of unrestricted – if there is no salary cap in 2010. There is at least one player from each of the NFL’s 32 teams on the list.
In an uncapped year, a player would need at least six years in the NFL, up from the current minimum of four years in the league, to be an unrestricted free agent able to sign with any team.
Pro Bowl linebackers Elvis Dumervil of Denver and DeMeco Ryans of Houston are in the group of potentially affected players, as are starting quarterbacks Kyle Orton of Denver and Jason Campbell of Washington.
The other players announced Tuesday as selections for this season’s Pro Bowl who could find themselves missing out on a chance to cash in this offseason are Packers safety Nick Collins, Patriots guard Logan Mankins, Saints guard Jahri Evans and Eagles fullback Leonard Weaver.
In addition to the NFL’s sacks leader (Dumervil), and the NFC’s leader in yards receiving (Austin), other prominent names on the list include Chargers linebacker Shawne Merriman, Jets receiver Braylon Edwards, Colts safety Antoine Bethea, Dolphins running back Ronnie Brown and Patriots kicker Stephen Gostkowski.
If they lose out on the chance to become unrestricted free agents this offseason, players might not get what they were expecting to be a huge payoff. They also won’t have the luxury of moving freely anywhere in the league.
A restricted free agent’s old club gets a chance to offer the player a one-year contract at different levels of pay which determine what level of draft-choice compensation the old club would receive for losing the player. And the old club has the right to match any offer another club makes to a restricted free agent.
Other rules changes would go into effect if there is no salary cap in 2010. There would be no minimum or maximum amounts teams could spend on payroll, and each club would get an extra “transition player” tag. A “transition player” must be offered a minimum of the average of the top 10 salaries of the prior season at the player’s position or 120 percent of the player’s previous year’s salary, whichever is greater.
By HOWARD FENDRICH,
AP Sports Writer
December 30th, 2009 at 10:29 am
LOL at not in the top 10 …
Why not?
Mack and Maulauga would be starters on this team. Isn’t that the point of a first round pick?
Like you say, using DHB as the alternative.
December 30th, 2009 at 10:30 am
Wouldn’t that be funny if we robbed Orton, Marshall & Dumervil from Dungver ???
LOL
December 30th, 2009 at 10:31 am
# 4evaRaider Says:
December 30th, 2009 at 10:25 am
well whatever you guys think of Romanowski….he was a hard nose LB….the type attitude you need in a true LB.Some dont like him because blah blah blah…..but the sonofagun was a LB
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Yeah, so was Brian Bosworth. What’s your point?
December 30th, 2009 at 10:37 am
Some game McF is gonna run for 110 yards or so and people will say “he has arrived!” I do not see him as a sustainable resource at running back so I wouldn’t expect him to back it up.
One fine day Heyward-Bey will break a long one and have a game of 4 catches and 100 yards and people will say “finally!” Gaining confidence he may duplicate such a game although he will never be worth 30 million dollars.
One day this off-season perhaps, when they realize that the well is drying up someone on the JaMarcus gravy train will whack him on the a$$ and tell him to get his sorry butt in gear and train to be an NFL QB.
Head Coach?????????????????????????????????????????????
Play Caller????????????????????????????????????????????
sigh…
December 30th, 2009 at 10:39 am
To include bosworth in the same sentence as Romanowski means you think bosworth was good or something hahahahahahahaha….is my point
December 30th, 2009 at 10:39 am
O.K. Fellas. . . . . .
I’ve got an opinion and a question for all of you who want to fire the coach. . . . . .again.
In the last Bronco game, Bush & McFadden both ripped off a couple of huge gains on that drive that put us near the goal line.
O.K., so. . . .given fact that that entire drive consisted of blowing the Denver line off the line of scrimmage and moving the ball on the ground, the obvious thing to do was to finish the drive by pounding the rock into the end zone, right?
Well, that’s what Cable did and while it didn’t work, it was the right thing to do at THAT particular point in THAT game.
O.K. – fast forward to the Browns game: We’re faced with ALMOST the same scenario. Michael Bush had looked excellent and all we needed was 2 yards to score, so the obvious thing to do was to pound the ball in there, right?
Well. . . .not quite in my opinion.
Why?
Because there were 5 minutes left in the game (yes, I know – 3 timeouts) and we needed 2 touchdowns. Well, let’s assume for a minute that we try a running play and it fails as it did against Denver.
The fact is that we would NOT have called a time-out right there and too many precious ticks would have run off that clock.
I know it seems stupid, on the surface, that Cable called consecutive pass plays there, but, I really think that was the thinking involved. And I don’t blame him.
He knew he had to score 2 TD’s and could not afford for a run play to fail. It ended up not working, but, it sure is easy playing arm-chair QB after the fact.
The reality is that had the run play failed and we ended up running out of time to legitimately score 2 TD’s, you guys would be calling for his head for wasting precious clock.
December 30th, 2009 at 10:39 am
If you have to be motivated to play, the train has left the station already.
December 30th, 2009 at 10:42 am
Michael Vick only has 13 pass attempts & 24 rush attempts this year.
was it worth $1.6 million for those 3 TD’s ???
I doubt they keep him next year when his contract says he’ll make $5 million
December 30th, 2009 at 10:42 am
What do you guys think of going after Osi Umenyiora?
He kinda came off as a complainer this season, in my opinion, but I think he’s got legit game.
Last thing we need is a complainer on this team, but, adding him would give us even more speed on the edges.
Thoughts?
December 30th, 2009 at 10:43 am
# 4evaRaider Says:
December 30th, 2009 at 10:39 am
To include bosworth in the same sentence as Romanowski means you think bosworth was good or something hahahahahahahaha….is my point
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No, I just believe that both were extremely overrated. Bosworth got steamrolled by Bo Jackson, while Romo did a good enough job steamrolling himself.
December 30th, 2009 at 10:45 am
DHB:
2010: 600 yards.
2011: 1100 yards.
Just my opinion.
It’s called player development.
People used to actually have the patience for that reality.
December 30th, 2009 at 10:45 am
Silver-N-Smac,
Cable has been poor all year. Not just a game or two. All year. Playing inferior talent, calling 4 verticals from the goal line, Club Med in training camp, a terrible offensive line of his building and force feeding us Fargas, DHB and Russell…..
Get a new coach
December 30th, 2009 at 10:46 am
Would rather go after Evans (OG Saints) or Mankins (OG PATS. Then draft a RT in round one that would shore up the right side completly.
December 30th, 2009 at 10:46 am
# jhill Says:
December 30th, 2009 at 10:16 am
And stop calling him “Grads”….he hasn’t earned a nickname yet.
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LMFAO!
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Oh, come on – give him a nickname. I have an idea:
Let’s call him “1984b” — there’s a story behind it.
December 30th, 2009 at 10:48 am
As for JaDavis Russell…I could care less what happens to him on the team. Personally, I would cut JaDavis Russell because his lack of work ethic is appalling….JaDavis hasn’t figured it out and he has been benched and is playing behind a bunch of 3rd string QBs in Gradkowski and Frye….Two horrible QBs in their own right.
JaDavis is an abject failure in terms of football. A complete and total failure. JaDavis is the WORST professional football player I have seen to date. Can JaDavis turn it around? I sincerely doubt it.
Let give Losman a chance to see if he can resurrect his career.
Send JaDavis Russell back to bama
December 30th, 2009 at 10:50 am
Come on with the “calling 4 vertical from the goal line” crap.
Enough already.
I get tired of all these isolated examples you guys love to pull out.
If the damned QB would execute some of the plays you guys call garbage, we wouldn’t be having this conversation.
Blame the head coach all you want. What about some of the fantastic, gutsy, ballsy calls that he’s called – that our beloved Chucky would have NEVER called?
How about some accountability for the players huh?
This shiot gets really old. Whine, whine, whine about the coach until you’re blue in the face man.
Players have to get it done.
I admit that Cable gets too cute for his own good at times, when simplicity would be perfectly acceptable given the youth on the offensive side of the ball.
But that’s not grounds to fire a coach.
Give me a freakin’ break.
The guy works hard. His players love playing for him.
And as the skill positions gain experience, some of the calls you refer to as horrible, suddenly will look like genius.
“Fire Coach, Fire Coach, Fire Coach” = Fickle Fan.
December 30th, 2009 at 10:50 am
# SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
December 30th, 2009 at 10:48 am
As for JaDavis Russell…I could care less what happens to him on the team. Personally, I would cut JaDavis Russell because his lack of work ethic is appalling….JaDavis hasn’t figured it out and he has been benched and is playing behind a bunch of 3rd string QBs in Gradkowski and Frye….Two horrible QBs in their own right.
JaDavis is an abject failure in terms of football. A complete and total failure. JaDavis is the WORST professional football player I have seen to date. Can JaDavis turn it around? I sincerely doubt it.
Let give Losman a chance to see if he can resurrect his career.
Send JaDavis Russell back to bama
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See post #334
December 30th, 2009 at 10:51 am
“Grads” doesnt have 2B great,that is the beauty of this whole thing.We have Horses’ very fast ones….”Grads” is very smart and deadly accurate….
It doesnt matter who they bring in because “Grads” is not the worst of the 32 starters,so no one is gonna beat him out.Bring them all on “lol”
December 30th, 2009 at 10:52 am
What happens if the QB throws a decent pass at the 2 yard line and we score?
Wow – suddenly it’s a great play call, isn’t it?
Wow – what a concept – expecting players to make plays.
December 30th, 2009 at 10:55 am
# Silver-n-Smac Says:
December 30th, 2009 at 10:52 am
What happens if the QB throws a decent pass at the 2 yard line and we score?
Wow – suddenly it’s a great play call, isn’t it?
Wow – what a concept – expecting players to make plays.
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No worse than our botched fake field goal attempt last year vs. KC!
December 30th, 2009 at 10:56 am
You’re right –
A botched, horrible fake field goal.
So let’s fire the coach!
BS man.
December 30th, 2009 at 10:56 am
Well, who called the play?
December 30th, 2009 at 10:57 am
Silver-N-Smac,
Who brought JaDavis Russell in here in the first place?
Who let JaDavis Russell play all the way to week 10 when THE WHOLE WORLD KNEW JaDavis wasn’t prepared?
Why call plays that JaDavis can’t run?
Why did the coach/GM throw away the season on JaDavis if they knew there was a better option on the field.
Whining? Yes…after 7 years of the worst football in league history, excuse me if I appear to be a little irritable.
BTW, please answer the questions above.
December 30th, 2009 at 10:58 am
Ask ANY general manager in the NFL:
Despite the lack of talent on the offensive line, if the Oakland Raiders had gotten even half-way decent quarterback play this season, we win at least 8 games.
It’s not even debatable.
Gradkowski is no superstar.
But he’s the closest thing we had to decent QB play and what happens? We win 2 out of 3, both against play-off caliber teams.
But no – let’s fire the coach.
December 30th, 2009 at 11:00 am
Silver-N-Smac,
The guys play hard for Cable? What exactly does that mean when you get blown out by the Browns? Jets? Giants (who are garbage), lose to the Chiefs?
Play hard. Fargas plays hard too I guess.
What ever happended to “Just Win Baby”
Its like chearing for your kids little league team around here.
So much sentimental B.S for players/coaches that don’t produce a doggone thing on the field.
Highest payroll in the league.
Oh, but I guess the league mandated that JaDavis play the first 10 weeks…..right?
December 30th, 2009 at 11:02 am
Silver-N-Smac,
Yes, fire the coach and get a real coach in here that knows how to use his personnel.
Murphy playing behind DHB is a rank joke….
Bush playing behind Fargas is ridiculous…
JaDavis playing ahead of Gradkowski for 10 weeks is ridiculous
and the O-Line is a disgrace.
Fire Cable and get a real coach
December 30th, 2009 at 11:03 am
# SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
December 30th, 2009 at 10:57 am
Silver-N-Smac,
Who brought JaDavis Russell in here in the first place?
Who let JaDavis Russell play all the way to week 10 when THE WHOLE WORLD KNEW JaDavis wasn’t prepared?
Why call plays that JaDavis can’t run?
Why did the coach/GM throw away the season on JaDavis if they knew there was a better option on the field.
Whining? Yes…after 7 years of the worst football in league history, excuse me if I appear to be a little irritable.
BTW, please answer the questions above.
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Here are the answers to your questions:
1) Al Davis
2) Al Davis
3) Because you have to call something (even if your quarterback can’t execute it properly)
4) It takes some time to move a 500 lb. gorilla
5) You sound like Michael Crabtree
December 30th, 2009 at 11:04 am
Raidertbone,
I was at the Meadowlands to witness that absolute disgrace of a game.
JaDavis was pathetic and the team looked like they quit in the 1st QTR.
The Jets also destroyed the Raiders with little effort as well…Cleveland handed JaDavis and Cable a good beating too.
December 30th, 2009 at 11:05 am
1) Failure to judge talent: playing Harris over Henderson, Fargas over Bush, DHB over anyone with two hands;
2) Failure to develop first round picks;
3) Failure to motivate team on a weekly basis;
4) Failure to produce as the play caller, near last in offense;
5) Off the field distractions;
6) 12 losses by 14+ points in only 27 games;
The verdict is in: FIRE CABLE
December 30th, 2009 at 11:06 am
Thank you Dakota…..right on point.
Fire Cable and cut JaDavis Russell
December 30th, 2009 at 11:07 am
_SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
December 30th, 2009 at 11:04 am
Raidertbone,
I was at the Meadowlands to witness that absolute disgrace of a game.
JaDavis was pathetic and the team looked like they quit in the 1st QTR.
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The Giants fans sitting around us actually took pity on us. I remember one of them even said, “I remember when everybody used to be scared of you guys!”
December 30th, 2009 at 11:09 am
Of course silver and smack would wanna keep cable around he will play his hero fargas all the time don’t you guys get it S and S is just a fan cause he likes the colors and were like the mafia right S and S are you gonna cry if cable is fired and fargas mr. 7 td is gone. My all-time fave 3.6+3.6+3.6= 1down wow what a regular Bill Walsh, how many guys make probowl with 3.6 and limited td but you can be a S and S all-star
December 30th, 2009 at 11:10 am
Uh. . . .you wanted to fire the HEAD COACH.
1. HE did not bring in Russell.
2. And let’s be real for a minute – you pay a guy 30 million bucks in guaranteed money. This was the year you absolutely HAD to play him to see what you have or don’t have. So of course Cable was gonna play Russell. Don’t be naïve. And of course the owner wanted that. And you’re gonna blame the coach for giving the young QB every opportunity to play?
3. What the fiock kind of plays did you expect Cable to call for Russell? Could the game plan have been any more simple? The bottom line is that the kid proved to NOT be ready at this point in his career. Whether you like to hear that or not, that’s the bottom line. Blame the coach all you want – doesn’t change the damned facts.
4. Why did they throw away the season? See item #2.
And trust me – I’m just as pissed, frustrated, irritated as you are. I just don’t need to resort to firing the coach when the coach is not the problem. Can he improve? Hell yes. But so can everyone in the building. He has more spine, backbone, balls and autonomy with the owner than anyone we’ve had since Gruden.
So unless you’re gonna bring back Chucky, I don’t even want to start the re-building process all over again. The team is young and it’s getting better. The record sucks, but, you know darned well that it’s getting better.
If you don’t – well yeah – let’s just keep firing and hiring coaches.
December 30th, 2009 at 11:10 am
Do we really want a coach that clearly puts personal vendetta ahead of winning?
Last offseason Michael Bush came out and advocated for the hiring of Kevin Gilbride over Tom Cable as our HC…Cable then places Bush on the bench to rot the following year. You do the math.
December 30th, 2009 at 11:12 am
JaDavis Russell…..
LMAO SnB!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
December 30th, 2009 at 11:13 am
JaDavis wins hands DOWNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN!!!!!!!!!!!!!
December 30th, 2009 at 11:14 am
I think we need to bring Terry Robiskie back to Raider Nation. He got a raw deal when he got his ever-so-brief shot as a coach in Washington. He is well-respected, is a good football guy and has former ties to Al. It could work …
December 30th, 2009 at 11:17 am
Passing the ball over running the ball at a 2-1 ratio in the first half against the 28th ranked rush defense of the cleveland Browns one week after Michael Bush and McFadden thrashed Denver should be enough to get Cable fired ON THE SPOT.
December 30th, 2009 at 11:20 am
Dakota Says:
December 30th, 2009 at 11:17 am
Passing the ball over running the ball at a 2-1 ratio in the first half against the 28th ranked rush defense of the cleveland Browns one week after Michael Bush and McFadden thrashed Denver should be enough to get Cable fired ON THE SPOT.
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And Dakota is spot on with his analysis. In fact, he was the only one here last year who was against Cable. He saw things as they were.
I thought Cable was going to keep the run oriented offense, develop the young players and improve the offensive line.
Instead, he’s calling plays to JaDavis like he’s Drew Brees
December 30th, 2009 at 11:20 am
Dakota Says:
December 30th, 2009 at 11:17 am
Passing the ball over running the ball at a 2-1 ratio in the first half against the 28th ranked rush defense of the cleveland Browns one week after Michael Bush and McFadden thrashed Denver should be enough to get Cable fired ON THE SPOT.
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Cable out thunk himself…
December 30th, 2009 at 11:20 am
I agree tbone….the Robiskie name is respected in Oakland,and rightly so,imo
December 30th, 2009 at 11:21 am
# Dakota Says:
December 30th, 2009 at 11:17 am
Passing the ball over running the ball at a 2-1 ratio in the first half against the 28th ranked rush defense of the cleveland Browns one week after Michael Bush and McFadden thrashed Denver should be enough to get Cable fired ON THE SPOT.
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Even if he were to fire Cable, the only legitimate options for Al would be either Gilbride or Fassell, most likely. Would we be better off?
December 30th, 2009 at 11:22 am
Robiskie was the WR coach, correct?
That seems to be a good fit, all things considered.
December 30th, 2009 at 11:22 am
4evaRaider Says:
December 30th, 2009 at 11:13 am
JaDavis wins hands DOWNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Ha, Ha, Ha,….
JaDavis Russell™
I am going to go ahead and trade mark this name for all offseason discussions
December 30th, 2009 at 11:24 am
I think “JaDavis” is certainly a worthy monicker … well done!
December 30th, 2009 at 11:25 am
Robiskie would be a nice addition.
Dakota, yes, Fassell or Gilbride would be better additions. They are run oriented coaches that know how to manage the passing game.
Fassel was able to work with Collins and get carries for Ron Dayne and Tiki Barber…built a solid O-Line
Gilbride was able to turn Eli Manning into a pro-QB….not an easy task
While I doubt any of them can do anything for JaDavis, I do believe they can work with Losman, Gradkowski and another vet to be determined later
December 30th, 2009 at 11:26 am
raidertbone Says:
December 30th, 2009 at 11:21 am
Even if he were to fire Cable, the only legitimate options for Al would be either Gilbride or Fassell, most likely. Would we be better off?
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Well, that is an unknown…we certainly would not be worse off with Fassel, his resume far exceeds Tom Cable’s, but you never know with Al…he sometimes comes up with gems like Gruden and Shanny and maybe even Kiffin will prove Al was right about his coaching skills.
I guess I would rather take a chance that Al might get one right again over the chance that Mr. 20-53 is somehow going to blossom into a decent coach. He has thus far demonstrated ZERO ability to make adjustments and adapt to win games.
December 30th, 2009 at 11:26 am
Dakota
Good game last night. The Warriors were well on thier way to a W until Mistabrown came in here and started talking sh1t and telling you to F off for no apparent reason, other than to be an ass hole. That fukker jinxed us with his sh1t talking. He jumped the gun as if the game was already in the bag. What a stupid, stupid man.
December 30th, 2009 at 11:27 am
Dogg,
He did? LOL, I’ll have to check it out…be right back.
December 30th, 2009 at 11:29 am
Mistabrown Says:
December 29th, 2009 at 9:16 pm
Warriors beat Pheonix and then Boston and now they’re giving the Lakers everything they can handle.
Nice to have our Centers back!!!
F U Dakota
December 30th, 2009 at 11:29 am
Dakota
Just posted it for you
December 30th, 2009 at 11:30 am
Has Robiskie ever been an OC?
Davis likes to save money like that and have a coach/OC combined.
I’m in favour of letting Robiskie run the show. Call his agent, get him in here.
December 30th, 2009 at 11:30 am
• NoMoreFargas Says:
December 30th, 2009 at 11:09 am
Of course silver and smack would wanna keep cable around he will play his hero fargas all the time don’t you guys get it S and S is just a fan cause he likes the colors and were like the mafia right S and S are you gonna cry if cable is fired and fargas mr. 7 td is gone. My all-time fave 3.6+3.6+3.6= 1down wow what a regular Bill Walsh, how many guys make probowl with 3.6 and limited td but you can be a S and S all-star
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So should I call you Richochet now? Dude, if you’re gonna talk crap to me, at least use your own material. You’re an idiot.
Until Bush & D-Mac prove that they are gonna put in the time, week-in, week-out to get it done on a consistent basis on Sundays, hell yeah I want the guy that spills his guts out on every play.
Me being a huge fan of Fargas has nothing to do with anything. I’ve consistently said, all along, that Bush & D-Mac are superior talents to Fargas.
And if they start playing that way CONSISTENTLY, then I’ll be the first to believe they should be in the line-up, ALL THE TIME.
I want the Raiders to win. Period.
If that’s with a clown like you running the ball, that’s fine by me. Unlike you, however, flashy numbers don’t interest me. I want guys who play hard all the time.
Thus far, neither Bush nor D-Mac have put 2 games in a row together that would warrant the coach leaving them in the game. Either they have stretches in which they run “soft” or they fumble the damned ball.
And you wanna talk about Bill Walsh? Go look back at Roger Craig’s career. He had a crap load of 3.6 yard gains. He was a tough runner who beat you up on all those little, UN-SEXY runs.
So spare me the BS.
December 30th, 2009 at 11:30 am
That block that Turiaf had against Kobe at the rim was one of the best blocks I have seen all year. Even Kobe was impressed.
December 30th, 2009 at 11:31 am
He sure did Dogg. Hey, I understand his angst and animosity.
No harm, no foul.
December 30th, 2009 at 11:31 am
So the quarterback competition next year will be between “JaDavis” and “1984b” (let me explain the other nickname):
In 1984, Vanessa Williams won Miss USA and she was touted as the next best thing since sliced bread. Then, when her scandal hit she was stripped of her title and it was given to some other girl. The other girl was handed the title (never won it) and never did anything significant ever again. Vanessa Williams was dubbed as “Miss America 1984″ and Suzette Charles was “Miss America 1984b”.
So there you have it — JaMarcus was stripped of his title as QB and it was handed to some guy who will probably never ever be a starter anywhere else. I introduce you do Bruce Gradkowski: Mr. “1984b”
December 30th, 2009 at 11:32 am
Robiskie was a terrible play caller in Los Angeles. He was Shell’s boy.
December 30th, 2009 at 11:32 am
Dakota
Any fool knows to wait until the game is over to talk sh1t.
December 30th, 2009 at 11:32 am
I do miss Turiaf…that dude is the ultimate energy guy and team player.
December 30th, 2009 at 11:33 am
Hey bone, I still have the Penthouse Magazine with Vanessa W. Nice bush!
December 30th, 2009 at 11:35 am
CaptainBlack
The real gem in that issue of Penthouse is the centerfold spread of Traci Lords. It was revealed later that she was only 16 during that photo shoot, which makes that Vanessa Williams issue of Penthouse that much more valuable. I sold mine a few years ago for that very reason. Dude gave me $75 for it.
December 30th, 2009 at 11:35 am
# CaptainBlack Says:
December 30th, 2009 at 11:33 am
Hey bone, I still have the Penthouse Magazine with Vanessa W. Nice bush!
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… and that ain’t all!!
December 30th, 2009 at 11:35 am
Silver N Smac, why did Nick M.remain on the 53?
December 30th, 2009 at 11:36 am
TIITS AND ASSSS TOOO
December 30th, 2009 at 11:36 am
I have not always been the biggest fan of Jano based on his failure to be that ultimate weapon kicking tons of 50+ yard kicks that he was touted to be coming out of college, but the guy got robbed of a pro-bowl selection this year.
Congrats to Shane and Nnamdi!
December 30th, 2009 at 11:36 am
Dakota
It always cracks me up when somneone has the “stones” to tell someone to f off when they are clearly not around.
December 30th, 2009 at 11:37 am
# CaptainBlack Says:
December 30th, 2009 at 11:33 am
Hey bone, I still have the Penthouse Magazine with Vanessa W. Nice bush!
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Translation: “I is a dumbs hick.”
Yeah, Gomer, we know.
considering that’s an old mag, that rules out you being a slow, ignorant, head up ass kid.
Which means you’re a slow ignorant head up ass adult.
In other words, that is your lot in life.
Ouch.
December 30th, 2009 at 11:37 am
Here is my take. Notice what’s this team problem been for the past 7 yrs, QB, Oline, Dline, LBs. I don’t care of which sequence we go as long as we tackle this issue with our first four picks, I would go MLB someone who can play like Patrick Willis who was 10th overall pick. DT like Cody would be nice in the second. We have two thirds we can get a RT n OG. In the fifth we can get a Center and we can get another LB, CB n DE with the last picks.
For those who think we don’t need a run stopper u guys r dreaming. The reason we can’t stop the run was discussed in last night comcast sports channel by T Howard n FB O’neal. Basically from what I understood thy pointed out that the DT is responsible for the one gap where the LB makes the tackle, of your DT loses his battle the LBs get blocked which creates a huge hole. Our starting DTs play better in pass rushing then run stopping. We paying to play both n since they can’t draft DTs who can play three technique n one gap rather then rely on two bums again. I think our biggest need is DT, RT, MLB, OG. Some guy in here was saying placing Walker in RG, dude got injured in his first game. He had one good push in Denvers game while Denver clearly killed our two QBs. Walker is a bum, get a true guards not wannabes. Another guy said Gallery was having pro bowl year b4 he got injured wow, u serious? Gallery had an awful year holding clipping his opponents. He seemed slow n never created big holes in the running game. We keep him but we need two new guys as far as depth goes. Satale is a backup at best, a bigger center would be good, the kid who started for the Chargers in place of Hardwick would be nice if he is free agent. Maybe someone can explain this to me, Huff n branch been playing solid for us all year, what do we do with our second round special reamer MM, I m not saying he is btter than Branch or Hufff but is he a waste of pick?
December 30th, 2009 at 11:37 am
# RaiderDogg Says:
December 30th, 2009 at 11:35 am
CaptainBlack
The real gem in that issue of Penthouse is the centerfold spread of Traci Lords. It was revealed later that she was only 16 during that photo shoot, which makes that Vanessa Williams issue of Penthouse that much more valuable. I sold mine a few years ago for that very reason. Dude gave me $75 for it.
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You beat me to it … that was the “that ain’t all” that I was referring to (I guess warped minds think alike!)
December 30th, 2009 at 11:37 am
Dogg, shyt, mine is collecting dust under my bed.
December 30th, 2009 at 11:38 am
you’re still pretty funny tho NMF =)
December 30th, 2009 at 11:38 am
TBone
Warped minds do think alike, especially if there is money involved
December 30th, 2009 at 11:38 am
# CaptainBlack Says:
December 30th, 2009 at 11:36 am
TIITS AND ASSSS TOOO
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Geez..while I’m typing the above, you prove my point with this.
Damn, you’re pathetic.
Well hey, as long as you feel “special” talking with adults, go for it.
December 30th, 2009 at 11:40 am
RaiderDogg Says:
December 30th, 2009 at 11:36 am
Dakota
It always cracks me up when somneone has the “stones” to tell someone to f off when they are clearly not around.
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This might make me paranoid and I will start reading every damned post that I missed when I am not here!
lol
December 30th, 2009 at 11:40 am
Silver-N-Smac,
My problem with Fargas is I just don’t see the production on Sundays. Production on Sunday has to be part of the equation along with work ethic and practice habits.
The NFL isn’t fair…life isn’t fair….but at the end of the day, you cannot win consistently with 20 carry 60 and 70 yard games.
Just like with our delicate run defense, those long runs do matter and just as the defense has to prevent them…the offense has to get a couple of them….
I just don’t see Fargas as that guy. Plus, Roger Craig was also a pass catching machine too. Fargas has questionable receiving skills….although they have improved somewhat this year
I think a new coach will maximize the running game. A new coach that delegates his work will focus on getting the overall team ready…including Bush and McFAdden…
JaDavis is probably beyond hope. What a disappointment…and threw the season away for him….pathetic
December 30th, 2009 at 11:40 am
I just rescued the mag.
December 30th, 2009 at 11:41 am
lmao @ Dakota
December 30th, 2009 at 11:41 am
CaptainBlack Says:
December 30th, 2009 at 11:40 am
I just rescued the mag.”
Well don’t go looking at Traci now you sick bastard! She’s only 16!
December 30th, 2009 at 11:42 am
shizzzzittt I’m still lmao at JaDavis…..Good idea Snb go ahead and TM it =)
December 30th, 2009 at 11:42 am
I think the best logic I’ve heard so far (toward the draft) is trading down and trying to garner several picks in the first three rounds … then focus on O-Line, D-line and LB. I still think we should go for a D-lineman in free agency, but I’m afraid Al may opt for another fast skill position player. I guess we could do a lot worse than someone like Taylor Mays, but I hope we trade down.
December 30th, 2009 at 11:42 am
ooops SnBBBBBBBBBB
December 30th, 2009 at 11:44 am
RaiderDogg Says:
December 30th, 2009 at 11:41 am
CaptainBlack Says:
December 30th, 2009 at 11:40 am
I just rescued the mag.”
Well don’t go looking at Traci now you sick bastard! She’s only 16!
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Better hide that magazine from Richochet!!
December 30th, 2009 at 11:46 am
Ever heard the phrase “If the field has grass, let’s play ball”?
Ok I’m done being a perv for today…
December 30th, 2009 at 11:46 am
Where is that stench from? Oh, its lil’ Ricky. Say, lil’ Ricky, you gonna be witty today? It’s real impressive how you use the same lines with different people. Some would say you are dumb, but not me. You is just lil’ Ricky!
December 30th, 2009 at 11:47 am
Bone, I covered my eyes
December 30th, 2009 at 11:48 am
lil Ricky likes dicky so it wont bother him none
December 30th, 2009 at 11:48 am
# CaptainBlack Says:
December 30th, 2009 at 11:46 am
Where is that stench from? Oh, its lil’ Ricky. Say, lil’ Ricky, you gonna be witty today? It’s real impressive how you use the same lines with different people. Some would say you are dumb, but not me. You is just lil’ Ricky!
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Well, at least he didn’t call you a peanut!
December 30th, 2009 at 11:49 am
Seems like Mike Leach got shafted by Tech. I’ve always thought Craig James was a smug, annoying, know-it-all who knows nothing punk and according to comments from Tech’s receivers coach his son is the same way.
I don’t even get what was so horrible about the treatment. Maybe I’m missing something.
Anyway, the relevance is that Leach will obviously be looking for another coaching job and big-time schools may be afraid to touch him since he’s been tainted by the media coverage of this whole thing. Anyone think Leach could be a good NFL coach? Kind of hard to imagine two headstrong, stubborn guys like Leach and Davis co-existing but I’ve always thought Leach has that (Oakland) Raider way about him. I know he probably couldn’t run his same system in the NFL but a brilliant offensive mind is a brilliant offensive mind. He should be able to adapt and draw something up that would work at the next level.
Any thoughts?
December 30th, 2009 at 11:51 am
Chris in NY,
I would say no to Leach.
First, as you pointed out, he would clash with Davis from day 1.
Second, these college coaches generally can’t handle the NFL. Totally different ball game
December 30th, 2009 at 11:51 am
Smac?? LMFAO at you stooping to volunteering to be the “BOARD PINATA” for the day.
You take stupid pills today?
It’s sad enough you run the “Al Davis is the Raiders. If you don’t like Al, go find another team” but defending his head up ass decision to hire Cable?
WTF??
Cable actually makes Joe Bugel look almost adequate.
Cable has ZERO upside.
It’s been detailed, yet your pathetic ass is so determined to defend everything Old Man Derelict Al does that you’re willing to come across as inept, and blind?
Let me make it simple for your simple mind….not only has Cable not helped, but he’s committed the cardinal sin of being a HC..his stupid decisions have cost the team games.
Is that simple enough for you?
December 30th, 2009 at 11:51 am
Bone, how about poodle? Hampster?
December 30th, 2009 at 11:52 am
# Chris in NY Says:
December 30th, 2009 at 11:49 am
Seems like Mike Leach got shafted by Tech. I’ve always thought Craig James was a smug, annoying, know-it-all who knows nothing punk and according to comments from Tech’s receivers coach his son is the same way.
I don’t even get what was so horrible about the treatment. Maybe I’m missing something.
Anyway, the relevance is that Leach will obviously be looking for another coaching job and big-time schools may be afraid to touch him since he’s been tainted by the media coverage of this whole thing. Anyone think Leach could be a good NFL coach? Kind of hard to imagine two headstrong, stubborn guys like Leach and Davis co-existing but I’ve always thought Leach has that (Oakland) Raider way about him. I know he probably couldn’t run his same system in the NFL but a brilliant offensive mind is a brilliant offensive mind. He should be able to adapt and draw something up that would work at the next level.
Any thoughts?
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Yeah, let me just see him try to shove Kirk Morrison in a closet … dude would get killed!
December 30th, 2009 at 11:52 am
Here’s my equation on the names getting kicked around thus far for the Raiders coaching job in 2010:
Gruden > Fassel > Harbaugh > Cable = Trestman > Gilbride = Robiskie.
December 30th, 2009 at 11:52 am
Raiders4eve,
About #430.
Basically, you want to get tougher up the middle. Agree.
Getting a LB like is easier said than done. There are a couple of MLB who should go around where the Raiders pick, so I’m on board for that.
As for picking up Cody in the 2nd. I completely disagree.
A large part of the problem for the last 7 years has been the motivation and focus of the players. Cody comes with that bad reputation. Do you really want to add another undisciplined player to the roster? I don’t. Cody may seem like a good fit based on size, but I would question handing him a ton of cash and hoping he would show up Sunday ready to outperform.
I think with the weak coaching staff they will have, the Raiders need to get more players who are self motivated and driven.
December 30th, 2009 at 11:54 am
# CaptainBlack Says:
December 30th, 2009 at 11:51 am
Bone, how about poodle? Hampster?
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Or “simple mind”; or “How’s that workin’ out for ya?”
December 30th, 2009 at 11:54 am
Make it simpler, Ricky. Now I don’t understand.
December 30th, 2009 at 11:56 am
Bone, so you see it too. The same shyte different poster. Where have I heard that before?
December 30th, 2009 at 11:56 am
Ciron Black (from LSU) may still be available for us in Round Two). If we could get a solid defensive player and then him, that helps out with two of our needs right there.
December 30th, 2009 at 11:58 am
# CaptainBlack Says:
December 30th, 2009 at 11:56 am
Bone, so you see it too. The same shyte different poster. Where have I heard that before?
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I think I’ve even heard “Gomer” thrown around once or twice before.
December 30th, 2009 at 11:59 am
# raidertbone Says:
December 30th, 2009 at 11:42 am
I think the best logic I’ve heard so far (toward the draft) is trading down and trying to garner several picks in the first three rounds … then focus on O-Line, D-line and LB. I still think we should go for a D-lineman in free agency, but I’m afraid Al may opt for another fast skill position player. I guess we could do a lot worse than someone like Taylor Mays, but I hope we trade down.
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In other words, you’re new at this.
In other words, you don’t follow squat about Al the Bard.
Pay attention, dumbass.
All of the “We need” means squat.
It’s Al. When was the last time Al made a wise choice?
THE GUY JUST DRAFTED 3 BACK TO BACK TO BACK 10 TOP PICKS THAT ARE ALREADY LABELED AS BUSTS.
that’s yet another trophy that will go in the Raider Hall of Shame.
But hey, nothing more humorous than watching Raider fans start discussing the draft in Oct for the following year.
Here’s the Raiders reality check:
Raiders had the #6 rushing offense in the league, in ‘07.
In ‘08, they draft BUST McFumble.
In ’09’s draft Crabtree, and other top WR’s are still on the board. Raiders draft BUST BEY.
You clear now, peanut?
December 30th, 2009 at 11:59 am
Yeah, those arrows were fired at me. I guess Isa hick, or sumpin?
December 30th, 2009 at 12:01 pm
Lil’ Ricky, I would prefer poodle instead of peanut, or gomer.
December 30th, 2009 at 12:02 pm
aptainBlack Says:
December 30th, 2009 at 11:59 am
Yeah, those arrows were fired at me. I guess Isa hick, or sumpin?
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You’re a hick and I’m a peanut … ain’t life original?!
December 30th, 2009 at 12:03 pm
# raidertbone Says:
December 30th, 2009 at 11:58 am
# CaptainBlack Says:
December 30th, 2009 at 11:56 am
Bone, so you see it too. The same shyte different poster. Where have I heard that before?
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I think I’ve even heard “Gomer” thrown around once or twice before.
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LMFAO..Dumb and Dumber..at it’s best.
Dumb: “OMG..he called me idiot. I think I saw him call someone else idiot. I DON’T FEEL SPECIAL ANYMORE”
Dumber: “Gosh…h’yuk..I’s done tinks I’s saw him call me a head up ass hick…and he called you head up ass too…oh man…dat’s not just right”.
Sorry, Dos Morons..the board restricts the smorgasbord of names, so you’ll just have to accept the fact that you’ll have to not only share labels, but accept the fact that yes, BOTH OF YOU can be head up ass morons.
No…really…it’s true.
Just the way it is
December 30th, 2009 at 12:03 pm
Ricky, where did your mother and I go wrong with you?
December 30th, 2009 at 12:04 pm
Sorry, CaptainDuh, but you scream Gomer.
Gomer it is.
December 30th, 2009 at 12:05 pm
Ricky, hows abouts Isa call you puss nutz. There, split the difference.
December 30th, 2009 at 12:05 pm
Well, lol..you know you have someone frazzled when they start the “mama” comments.
In other words, Gomer, you’re toast.
December 30th, 2009 at 12:07 pm
# Richochet Says:
December 30th, 2009 at 12:03 pm
# raidertbone Says:
December 30th, 2009 at 11:58 am
# CaptainBlack Says:
December 30th, 2009 at 11:56 am
Bone, so you see it too. The same shyte different poster. Where have I heard that before?
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I think I’ve even heard “Gomer” thrown around once or twice before.
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LMFAO..Dumb and Dumber..at it’s best.
Dumb: “OMG..he called me idiot. I think I saw him call someone else idiot. I DON’T FEEL SPECIAL ANYMORE”
Dumber: “Gosh…h’yuk..I’s done tinks I’s saw him call me a head up ass hick…and he called you head up ass too…oh man…dat’s not just right”.
Sorry, Dos Morons..the board restricts the smorgasbord of names, so you’ll just have to accept the fact that you’ll have to not only share labels, but accept the fact that yes, BOTH OF YOU can be head up ass morons.
No…really…it’s true.
Just the way it is
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Hey, he gave me the smiley face and everything!
(for those of you who don’t know, it’s only a snapshot of the tattoo he has on his ass … right next to the one that says “I live in my Mama’s basement”)!!
December 30th, 2009 at 12:08 pm
Ricky is smartist poster evr. Nobody think like lil Rick. He comes to dis bord to ebimucate uz. He tinks he is wity, but hes only a fewl. Ricky usa fewl
December 30th, 2009 at 12:08 pm
I’d go best available player in Round 1 with o-line as the biggest need. I don’t really trust any of the QBs at the top of the draft.
WR Dez Bryant would be my choice because I think he’s going to be an elite receiver. Very similar to Andre Johnson and T.O. physically. Very good hands to go with an extremely athletic and chiseled 6-3, 220 frame. However, I doubt it happens since we drafted DHB No. 1 last year and it would be a very quick admission that pick was a mistake.
I’d be somewhat shocked if we drafted Taylor Mays. Huff and Branch were very good this season. Branch led the league in tackles from the safety position and is highly athletic and only in his 2nd year. How many times did Huff make a great play on a pass over the middle and break it up this year? That’s the guy I saw at Texas who merited being picked No. 7 overall. Not sure where he’s been up till this point. Add in Mike Mitchell is perhaps the most intriguing player on this roster because of his ferocious hitting style and the fact that you could do a hell of a lot worse than Hiram Eugene as your No. 4 safety (remember his key pick vs. the Steelers?).
December 30th, 2009 at 12:10 pm
# CaptainBlack Says:
December 30th, 2009 at 12:08 pm
Ricky is smartist poster evr. Nobody think like lil Rick. He comes to dis bord to ebimucate uz. He tinks he is wity, but hes only a fewl. Ricky usa fewl
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Only Ricky and JaDavis could read and understand that posting!
December 30th, 2009 at 12:10 pm
Ricky, go home, boy. Momma needs her bunyons rubbed
December 30th, 2009 at 12:11 pm
I see a scene from “Throw Momma From The Train” — priceless! well done!
December 30th, 2009 at 12:13 pm
Gotta go … later, my Nation! If Ricky jumps back in after I’m gone, it will prove a lot to those of you out there who probably already know how he operates. This is “peanut” signing off. Later Captain … it’s been fun! Go Raiders!
December 30th, 2009 at 12:15 pm
later, bro. and thanks for the info
December 30th, 2009 at 12:27 pm
T-bone, 4Eva, SnB,
when Terry Robiskie was calling plays for the Los Angeles Raiders it was the most aggravatingly predictable crap you could ever witness (I could sit in front of the TV and tell exactly what play was coming – and if I could don’t ya think any defense could as well?). whether he was following the lead of Shell 1 or AD I don’t know, but if he calling ‘em as he wished then he has no business being a play caller in the NFL.
December 30th, 2009 at 12:30 pm
lonetree, u r right.
December 30th, 2009 at 12:35 pm
Chris in NY Says:
December 30th, 2009 at 12:08 pm
I’d go best available player in Round 1 with o-line as the biggest need. I don’t really trust any of the QBs at the top of the draft.
WR Dez Bryant would be my choice because I think he’s going to be an elite receiver. Very similar to Andre Johnson and T.O. physically. Very good hands to go with an extremely athletic and chiseled 6-3, 220 frame. However, I doubt it happens since we drafted DHB No. 1 last year and it would be a very quick admission that pick was a mistake.
I’d be somewhat shocked if we drafted Taylor Mays. Huff and Branch were very good this season. Branch led the league in tackles from the safety position and is highly athletic and only in his 2nd year. How many times did Huff make a great play on a pass over the middle and break it up this year? That’s the guy I saw at Texas who merited being picked No. 7 overall. Not sure where he’s been up till this point. Add in Mike Mitchell is perhaps the most intriguing player on this roster because of his ferocious hitting style and the fact that you could do a hell of a lot worse than Hiram Eugene as your No. 4 safety (remember his key pick vs. the Steelers?).
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If there was ever a year to trade up….this is the year….dor SUH!
Then draft MLB Micah Johnson in Round 2 and then draft OT in Round 3.
Trade the #8-10 pick and one of the 3rd rounders and one of the 5th rounders from Burgess trade to move up to get Suh.