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The run stops with Ray

By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Wednesday, December 30th, 2009 at 3:59 pm in Oakland Raiders.

News, notes, quotes and observations Wednesday from the Raiders’ practice, open locker room session as they prepare to host the Baltimore Ravens:

– We’ll see how much the Raiders run the ball against Baltimore or even attempt to run.

In the brief Ravens-Raiders history, which corresponds to Ray Lewis’ first year of the league in 1996, Oakland has broken 100 yards exactly once _ getting 111 yards on 28 carries in a 13-10 loss in 1998.

The leading rusher that day was Napoleon Kaufman, who had 79 yards on 16 carries.

In the other five meetings, including the AFC championship game following the 2000 season, the Raiders have run into a wall.

Last season, Justin Fargas had 11 carries for 22 yards and the Raiders had 47 yards on 18 carries in a 29-10 loss. In 2006, Lamont Jordan rushed for 35 yards on 19 carries and the Raiders had 39 on 26 attempts.

In Oakland’s only win over Baltimore, a 20-12 win at the Coliseum in 2003, the Raiders needed 31 carries to gain 79 yards.

The 2000 Raiders led the NFL in rushing, averaging 154.4 yards per game, and ran for 24 yards on 17 carries. Tyrone Wheatley had seven yards on 12 rushes.

Oakland’s first-ever game against Baltimore in the 1996 season opener brought 60 yards on 21 attempts, with Harvey Williams gaining 39 yards on 13 carries.

In the six games, the Raiders have 330 yards on 142 carries, averaging 2.3 yards per carry. Unable to control the line of scrimmage, the Ravens have 22 sacks in those games.

To be fair, the Ravens have done this to a lot of teams _ not just the Raiders.

“You’ve got a bunch of good players, and they have for quite a while now,’’ Raiders coach Tom Cable said. “But (Lewis) definitely is the key to the whole thing. And good players on the line of scrimmage. Two outstanding outside ’backers. A nose guard. Defensive ends. And safeties who know how to fit that box.

“It’s kind of been who they are – stop the run first and we’ll just adjust everything else.”

Lewis told Bay Area reporters by conference call “We get up for true challenges and the Raiders, every time we’ve seen ‘em, have always had some type of respect or some type of thing that they’re really chasing, and right now I think they’re doing a great job using all three running backs.”

– Tight end Zach Miller had a career high nine receptions for 111 yards after missing a week because of concussion symptoms and was pleasantly surprised to have an immediate rapport with quarterback Charlie Frye.

“Charlie did a good job of finding me a lot of times. He really trusted me,’’ Miller said. “We haven’t been working together that much this season, but we were pretty in tune on Sunday.’’

Miller said the unsportsmanlike penalty he got for taunting an opponent (a dubious flag to say the least) was his first at any level.

“I’m the next (Jeremy) Shockey,’’ Miller said.

– -Here’s how Cable assessed Heyward-Bey’s status for Sunday: “We’ll see as we go. Hopefully no setback. We’ll see tomorrow in terms of how today went and how he recovers. But he looked fine today and he’ll go in there and be part of the mix and then, look forward, he would go in as a backup.’’

– If the Raiders knock out the Ravens, it won’t be because they were overlooked. Baltimore hasn’t lost to a team with a losing record this year and all their losses in 2008 came against playoff teams.

“We don’t categorize the teams that we play,’’ Harbaugh said. “We’re disappointed with the teams we haven’t beat. We’re playing a really, really good team, a team that’s capable and talented and that’s how we’re approaching it.’’

– Looks like Stanford coach Jim Harbaugh, a former Raiders assistant long-rumored to be a Raiders head coaching candidate, will be on the sidelines at the Coliseum sooner rather than later.

“I’m pretty sure he’s coming to the game,’’ John Harbaugh said. “He and my dad and some other family they’re coming back from the Sun Bowl I think right around that time.’’

Younger brother Jim joined the Ravens on the sideline during a 27-14 loss in Green Bay and was more emotional and demonstrative than the head coach.

“We’ll let him on the sideline. Hopefully he’ll stay off the field this time,’’ John Harbaugh said. “All I know is I looked around and he was 15 yards on the field.’’

– The Raiders’ decision to wait around for Nick Miller to get healthy was costly in terms of kickoff returns. Oakland is ranked dead last in kickoff return average at 22.9 yards and has been stopped 18 times inside the 20 _ the most in the NFL.

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  1. carnitas Says:

    first again

  2. mistic1 Says:

    Kaufman was awesome. I remember touching the ball a lot, like mac 20 and bush should as well. 30-35 touches a game between the two of them, running and catching the ball. Cable sucks.

  3. 4evaRaider Says:

    Yep its 2 bad about Kaufmans knee

    Electrifying was he

  4. The Big Banana Says:

    In Oakland’s only win over Baltimore, a 20-12 win at the Coliseum in 2003, the Raiders needed 31 carries to gain 79 yards.
    ===================================================
    31 Carries? Cable isn’t nearly as dedicated to the run. Heck, not even a 5 ypc average gets Bush 20 carries.

  5. 909RaiderLifer Says:

    Now watch Cable try to RUN four times, from the three yard line this week…..

  6. 4evaRaider Says:

    Dmac has the best chance to be considered in the same breath as Napolean Kaufman,imo

    Kaufman was a rare jewel indeed,imo

  7. M Lonetree Says:

    The Ravens secondary is wiped out by injury. Cable will most likely abandon the run at first opportunity giving Frye-boy a chance to throw as many picks as he can.

  8. M Lonetree Says:

    Rather see Losman even if he ain’t up to snuff on the playbook.

  9. The Big Banana Says:

    Seems like DMAC lacks vision. I’m remembering one play in particular, I think against Cleveland. Screen pass where he made it to the second level on the right sideline. One guy directly in front of him with the safety bearing down ahead and slight left. It just seemed to me that if he had cut left and if he had the speed they say he has, I think he could have broke one for a score. Especially since the safety’s momentum was carrying him to DMAC’s right. Instead, he just ran straight ahead and was tackled.

    Not giving up on this guy but he’s been disappointing to say the least, so far.

  10. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    Get Michael Bush involved early in this game. The Ravens can also put pressure on the QB with their blitzes. It would be wise to leverage the running backs on screens as well.

    It is still amazing how far JaDavis has fallen. To be buried on the depth chart at #3 is an embarrassment. Let’s go Charlie Frye. Give’m hell

  11. Lynn from Snot Says:

    CAn we get a fat guy to fall on Flaco ? Where is SAnds at/

  12. 860Todd Christensen Says:

    860Todd Christensen Says:
    December 30th, 2009 at 4:29 pm
    In my book, the LA Raiderettes, were of their time, glam, gloss, and Marcus. Times change, time to get back to your roots, straighten your head, and come back stronger than when you left. We have a lot of young talent, no leadership, a HC lookin to save his azz, and a following that is the most loyal in the NFL. This team can make it, but it must work as a team, from the TOP, to the BOTTOM. I hope we have a great draft, there is much fixing to be done, and I wish my Raider Brothers a Happy, Prosperus, and Healthy New Year. Let’s all take time to hope we can get it together, team and fans alike, and our Raiders put up a great team for the 2010 Super Bowl. Happy New Year all in this Blog!

  13. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    Lynn,

    Terdell Sands is no player. As you can see, this guy is out of the league. Al Davis provide Terdell Sands a nice salary for a while…

    The Raiders need to get themselves a run clogging NT in the draft/free agency.

    Is there an NT that runs a 4.7 40x?

  14. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    So who is the backup QB?

    Is it JaDavis Russell or JP Losman?

  15. 909RaiderLifer Says:

    860TC….

    Same to you….

  16. 860Todd Christensen Says:

    Thanks 909, I’ll be workin the weekend, just want to get it out, Bro!

  17. 909RaiderLifer Says:

    Good game between Cable’s alma mater and Bowling Green.

    Going to watch Suh play tonight and wish in one hand…

  18. 860Todd Christensen Says:

    Hear ya Bro, we always hope at this time of year…….

  19. mistic1 Says:

    Macfadden does not get the ball enough for us to see what he can really do. Cable’s fault, this one of the reasons he will be fired.

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  21. OFL71 Says:

    Watching Frye last week against a far inferior Cleveland team and all the poor decisions(being nice there)he made leads me to believe he’s in for a horrible game against a Baltimore defense that has the playoffs in there sights.
    Frye was god-awful last week and he will be terrible again Sunday.
    Thank god another dreadful season is almost over.

  22. KoolKell Says:

    Davis, leaking through Herrera to Dan Criqi that the Raiders think Russell will be just fine. And Cable blaming Russell for not making the playoffs. It does look like Davis will throw his loyal dog under this year’s bus.

  23. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    Koolkell,

    Cable needs to go. However Davis decides to dismiss him is fine with me. Perhaps that’s why Cable is openly blaming JaDavis for the lost season…..

    Are you ready for year 8 of the rebuild….

  24. KoolKell Says:

    Mr Davis Please Step Down.

    http://images.huffingtonpost.com/gen/123234/AL-DAVIS.jpg

  25. KoolKell Says:

    The thing is, Cable was so loyal to Davis. Did Davis’ bidding. How chickenshyt is that?

  26. vegas raider Says:

    I really think it might come down to this weekend for Cable.

    A win would go a long way for him. 6-10 would be our best record in over 5 years.

  27. CaptainBlack Says:

    KK,

  28. CaptainBlack Says:

    saying Russell will be fine while claiming he cost the team the season is not disloyal. I don’t believe Russell will be fine, and he hurt the team, no doubt

  29. CaptainBlack Says:

    I would wager Richochet’s tricycle that Cable gets another season

  30. Mistabrown Says:

    Is the football season over yet?

    Go Warriors!

  31. CaptainBlack Says:

    Hell, I’d wager Richochet but he ain’t worth spit.

  32. CaptainBlack Says:

    How bout them Reds?

  33. CaptainBlack Says:

    My Hampster has more value than Richochet

  34. CaptainBlack Says:

    Richochet reminds me of Templeton the Rat from Charlottes Web.

  35. KoolKell Says:

    Tom Cable or Jim Fassel? Start all over AGAIN? with the Same GM?

    Neither of those choices are acceptable to me, and I’d wager the Season-Ticket holders either.

    Blackouts as far as the eye can see.

  36. Frank YoooooooLLL Says:

    I hate dry carnitas, the best carnitas I ever had was someplace in San Jose

  37. CaptainBlack Says:

    The best carnitas I have ever had was with Richochet’s mother. Now she is a hot tamale. How she pinch out a turd like Richochet, the world will never know.

  38. Mistabrown Says:

    KK did that Barbershop cut out half your brain ?

  39. mistic1 Says:

    It’s clear Davis believes Cable should have gotten more out of no.2. Cable tried to bench no.2, in an attempt to shift the blame for his own failures. Davis although is also displeased with no.2, but he still wants to save face and prove the selecting Russell was the right move. When you add thi all together it means Cable is out. The loss to Cleveland with no.2 on the bench, sealed his fate.

  40. Frank YoooooooLLL Says:

    I guess she dropped him off at the pool……………

  41. CaptainBlack Says:

    MB, He’s got feelings to consider

  42. CaptainBlack Says:

    I told the lil’ pryck to go play in the street, that cars were his friends

  43. Mistabrown Says:

    We will find out in about a week if Cable gave AL the middle finger and benched JaMeatloaf or if AL has had enough of his #1 BUST and was onboard with sitting the Cuntry Bunpkin.

  44. CaptainBlack Says:

    I says to lil richochet, wait for a car then run out and stand in front of it. it will give you a big kiss if you do

  45. Richochet Says:

    LMFAO…geez…do I have CaptainDork jumping through hoops, or what?

    dude..I left 7 hours ago..since then you’ve made 38 posts TO ME..a dozen or so just on this thread.

    told ya..I’m good.

    Hey, don’t be so sensitive, sniveling little boy.
    You got exposed as being “slow”..that can’t be new.
    You got called out as being one sorryass uneducated clod.
    Blame your parents, not me.
    Oh, and you also got called out for being a sorryass Gomer with your ‘Oh goody, let’s talk about hooters…OH MAN..I LOVE TALKING WITH ADULTS…YEEEEHAWWWW”

    38 posts? Damn…you are one sorry slapped on little puppy, aren’t ya, Gomer?
    quick..make it 39, fool.

  46. Richochet Says:

    # mistic1 Says:
    December 30th, 2009 at 5:50 pm

    It’s clear Davis believes Cable should have gotten more out of no.2. Cable tried to bench no.2, in an attempt to shift the blame for his own failures. Davis although is also displeased with no.2, but he still wants to save face and prove the selecting Russell was the right move. When you add thi all together it means Cable is out. The loss to Cleveland with no.2 on the bench, sealed his fate.
    =================================
    Cleveland had nothing to do with it.
    Al picked Russell. Al benched Russell. Cable even admitted he checked with Al and GOT HIS PERMISSION to start Grad the following week that Russell was yanked at the half.

    Al picked Frye, as well as Garcia, and Grad.
    Not Cable.

    Cable, however, will very likely be fired..because continuing to be the worst team of THE DECADE has to be blamed on someone, and it’s narrowed down to the head coach (insert name) or Al Davis.

    Al: “Can everyone see the overhead projector? I have decided to let Tim Cable go. Tim…yeah..TIM!! Oh, my bad..I meant Tod. I fired Tod today. Tom? Who’s Tom? Tom Cable? Tod has a brother??”

    And so it goes in the dysfunctional abyss known as the Oakslum Raiders.

  47. buckeyeraider Says:

    Sunday’s game should be interesting to say the least. The Raiders have been pretty feisty the last couple of weeks. This didn’t start last week in Cleveland. There were a lot of extracurriculars going on in Denver as well. That officiating crew just wasn’t as flag happy. They just broke up the fights instead of calling all the personal fouls/unsportsmanlikes. Baltimore might be even more penalized than the Raiders. The officials keep a close eye on them too. This game could get really chippy. Anybody got an over/under on combined penalties? 30 maybe. I think the raiders will come out and give a good accounting of themselves. If Frye can cut out the turnovers they could pull a surprise upset.

  48. buckeyeraider Says:

    If the Raiders were to knock off Baltimore, wouldn’t that pretty much open the door for lil Josh McDaniels and the yakkin ponies to get back into the playoff picture. Talk about bittersweet. That would suck.

  49. raideredoutL.A. Says:

    just win baby

  50. raideredoutL.A. Says:

    here’s to another season.

  51. buckeyeraider Says:

    I know it seems like eons ago, but the Raiders do have three division titles, two championship games, and a superbowl appearance in THIS DECADE. That alone should exclude them from being the worst team of the decade.
    Besides, even as horrendous as they’ve been these last seven years, aren’t the Rams, Lions, Chiefs and Browns drafting ahead of them every year? Just asking.

  52. jhill Says:

    Al picked Frye, as well as Garcia, and Grad.

    ——————————————————-

    I’m willing to bet that Garcia and Gradkowski were Hackett’s idea.

    I’m pretty sure Frye sharing Russell’s agent got him a look this summer, but he was not in the plans until that punk arse Garcia quit.

  53. raider91 Says:

    The running game will not work on these guys.

  54. mistic1 Says:

    Davis allowed Cable to bench no.2, and they still lose badly. This proves to everyone that Cable can’t cut the mustard no matter who is under center. Cleveland and Washington were clear proof that Cable is in over his head. Davis hates losing, and especially when the coach isn’t playing or developing the guys that Davis chooses. Cable dug his own grave with all of the blow out losses and compounded the issue by saying it was mainly Russell’s fault, while saying that he has done an exceptional job coaching. Good bye Cable….. And good riddance.

  55. jhill Says:

    Let’s not forget stashing Bush on the bench in favor of Fargas. Davis will blame Cable for Russell, DMAC, Bush, and DHB not developing at all.

  56. mistic1 Says:

    Every other qb on the roster were brought in to be insurance policies, including Garcia. The plan was to develope no.2, Cable failed.

  57. buckeyeraider Says:

    My God, Suh is dominant. Are you guys watching this? Unfortunately the Raiders have no shot. This guys going no. 1 overall.

  58. raidertbone Says:

    I think it all comes down to Sunday. If Cable gets a win, with a third-string quarterback at the helm, I think he lives to see another season. If it’s another God-awful performance, he’ll take the fall. There is so much money invested in JaDavis that if it comes down to a choice between him and Cable, the 2007 wonderdraftkin would probably get the nod. Now whether or not he’ll ever start again is anybody’s guess.

  59. raidertbone Says:

    This will be the fourth game I’ve seen between Raiders and Ravens; the first three have been fuggly!

  60. mistic1 Says:

    The Cable hire made sense at the time, for some reason cable did not build on the buzz he built with mac-20 bush and no.2 last year. Not only did no.2 regress, so did Cable. After watching fry play he couldn’t be any better than no.2. Cable is finished with Russell, Davis is finished with Cable.

  61. buckeyeraider Says:

    This might be old news, but did anybody see Bob Ryan on espn’s around the horn last, week, say the Raiders lead the league in quality wins. Wins over teams with winning records at the time. Philly, Cincy, Pittsburgh, and Denver. If they could add a Baltimore team fighting for a playoff spot to that list, that might be enough to buy Cable one more year.

  62. raiderrej Says:

    This season has been a mess… For a HC to abandon the run game and put the game into any of the 3 QB’s is ridiculous. I hate to say it, we have the worst offense in the league!!! And it all Jamarcus’s fault either!

  63. raidertbone Says:

    I wouldn’t call the Philly win a “quality win”!!

  64. raidertbone Says:

    # islandraider Says:
    December 30th, 2009 at 7:33 pm

    Here is my 5 point plan to bring back a good JaMarcuss:

    1)Re-dedicate your life to the Oakland Raiders (after God, of course). Al has paid you well. Very very well. Hansomely even. Do him right.
    Re-dedicate your football game for you (and Al, of course).

    2)Put down the pu$$y. Walk away from it. Don’t look back ‘lest ye be turned to stone’. At your young age with money, those dames will eat you alive, and when your all dried up, they’ll flee you faster than a cat can lick its ass. Once your moneys gone, better hope you got a movie career lined up.

    3)Strip clubs might not be a good place for you right now. You need to be asleep early so as you can rise early to practice. And staying out all night on game days, hung-over and out of sorts, that ain’t gonna cut it.

    4)The Burger King is not your friend. Ronald Mcdonald is not your friend. Donoughts with cream cheese are not JaMarcuss friendly. Hire someone to cook your meals, keep your house clean and go away (haha). You need to eat like a pro. It will make you better.

    5)If you lose some weight, you’ll be quicker on your feet. Reduce your facemask a little to help you see better. Learn the play book in its entirety, you’ll have more options. Keep your eyes looking side to side. Step into the pocket for cryin out loud. Practice, practice, and learn and study. Pump fake, once, twice. Read the defense, change a play. Get the tean back to the line with 15+ seconds left on the clock. 2 minute drills are good.

    So if you can follow my 5 point plan and return the Raiduhs’ to greatness, that’d be awesome.
    _______________________________________

    You are placing way too much pressure and expectation on JaDavis. The man has already gotten his big payday — that’s all he wanted. You’ll get no more good effort out of him — he already thinks he doing well, as it is!

  65. mistic1 Says:

    It is truly no.2 vs. Cable. If Cable was a good coach he could win, just like gruden was able to get rid of Davis favorite Jeff George , and bring in Ganon. Cable hasn’t been able to make a case Davis gave him enough rope to hang himself. Forget the qb mess the rest of the team has underperformed most times this year, hence the record. 5 wins will get you fired in Oakland. Time to unplug Cable win or lose Sunday.

  66. raider91 Says:

    Jamarcus Russel is only dedicated to his money and always will be, with that much money he can brush off everything.

  67. Dude Says:

    Only a moron would either believe or try and make people believe the stat on the “quality” wins.

  68. raider91 Says:

    JR Can’t read, let alone memorize the playbook.

  69. raider91 Says:

    Mistic1, if Cable wins on sunday I think he will be back, either as HC or Asisstant HC. If he loses he will go back to O-line coach.

  70. mistic1 Says:

    I’m sure no.2 has learned a lesson, I don’t think he is on board with Cable at this point. Especially after being hammered by his coach in public after losing a game he didn’t even play in. Davis will get you talented players, he is not shy about spending money. You better make it work and win or you will be out of here faster than a fart in a dust storm.

  71. islandraider Says:

    Al Davis is still the General Managing Partner of the General Managed Partner of the Partners or thereof Managed Partners (so I guess he would still be the general manager), so we can expect either a firing or not a firing of the head coach, we know for certain Russell will or won’t be back, we can be absolutely sure Dmac and Bush may or may not be traded.

  72. buckeyeraider Says:

    Dude,
    Bob Ryan of the Boston Globe said it on national television last week after the Raiders beat the broncos. He was asked if that was more a Bronco loss, or a Raider win. He answered “Both”.The broncos slide continues after their 6-0 start. He said believe it or not the Raiders lead the league with “quality” wins over winning teams. He said it was F-A-C-T fact, in fact. So take it up with him.Dude.

  73. Dude Says:

    Donr be a fool and use your head hes wrong.You dont think the Saints or Colts havent won 4 games over teams with winning records? LOL!

  74. mistic1 Says:

    Cable could never be offensive coordinator, asst head coach, or o- line coach. Cable won’t accept a demotion, he thinks he has done an ” exceptional job” coaching this year. I think Davis has had enough of zone blocking Wichita hadn’t opened holes for Davis’s prized rb mac-20. Cable’s offense has failed to score, this is why shell was fired. Let’s not waste time, it hasn’t worked out, cut bait and get a real coach…… Please

  75. Richochet Says:

    # CaptainBlack Says:
    December 30th, 2009 at 5:45 pm

    Richochet reminds me of Templeton the Rat from Charlottes Web.
    ===========================
    Holy shyte..Charlotte’s Web?
    It’s not just that you prove you’re an idiot pubescent dorky kid by stating you watch silly cartoons, but you know the name of a rat in the show?

    So..tell us..when do you expect pube one to hit?
    Voice still a little squeaky, there, dork?
    Little high pitched, lol..

    Admit it..you scream like a girl, don’t you?

    No shame in you admitting to being effeminate..you want to whine like a girl, cop to being one.

    What’s next? Quoting power rangers?
    You go, girl.

  76. DKnight007 Says:

    # KoolKell Says:
    December 30th, 2009 at 5:31 pm

    Mr Davis Please Step Down.

    http://images.huffingtonpost.com/gen/123234/AL-DAVIS.jpg

    ^^^^^^^^^^
    Ugh….someone use photoshop and manip the old man into the Emperor from the Star Wars films! LOL

  77. DKnight007 Says:

    # mistic1 Says:
    December 30th, 2009 at 7:57 pm

    Cable could never be offensive coordinator, asst head coach, or o- line coach. Cable won’t accept a demotion, he thinks he has done an ” exceptional job” coaching this year. I think Davis has had enough of zone blocking Wichita hadn’t opened holes for Davis’s prized rb mac-20. Cable’s offense has failed to score, this is why shell was fired. Let’s not waste time, it hasn’t worked out, cut bait and get a real coach…… Please

    ^^^^^^^^^^
    Yes….this team needs a REAL coach….but the question is can the old looney man GET a REAL head coach to come here??

  78. mistic1 Says:

    You have to do more than sneak up on a few teams that you caught looking ahead. What does Cable’s offense or his o- line have to build on for next year? They havnt established anything. In week 16 we have more questions than answers this usally falls on the head coach. Davis won’t stand for it. Take it to the bank.

  79. Raider 510 Says:

    Mistic1 Says:
    December 30th, 2009 at 7:40 pm

    Time to unplug Cable win or lose Sunday.

    ——————————————

    It’s hard not to attack your character, it really is. Cut Cable. New Coach. High Hopes. Same results, blame new coach. Fire Coach. I think you discovered the winning formula (sarcasm). Cutting Cable will do absolutely nothing for the team, because remember it is a TEAM. Bring Cable back for another year and let the STILL REALLY YOUNG players develop under the SAME system for at least the sake of continuity. Put aside your huge ego my friend, the Raiders are not a great team, they have potential–that’s it. Period. One more draft same system lets see what happens.

  80. mistic1 Says:

    There will always be quality coaches that want to come to Oakland. When you win here you are an instant star. Ask gruden. Most of the garbage that’s out there about Davis is crap. He is no different than Jerry jones, robrert craft or snyder. Peopl exagerate when Davis is involved due to his unorthodox style. This is why people go out of thier way to write letters or otherwise express interest in the job.

  81. islandraider Says:

    A black hole is what it is. This organization has tried so hard to build its mighty team of the decades propaganda from the past, they’ve failed to look ahead correctly. Hence the mess today.

    Surely Al has to see this.

  82. mistic1 Says:

    What good is continuity under a crappy system? Cut bait and start avian while you still have time to save our young players that are being ruined under Cable’s buffonish leadership. Can these players repect a guy that says we need to be accountable, and then says we could have one if it wasn’t for no.2? What a hypocrite. Yes this the NFL, when you win only 5 games, and most of the losses are of the double digit variety, you have got to go. We don’t accept back to back 5-11 seasons. This is not Detroit or Cleveland this Oakland, and you don’t need an over head projector to see Cable stinks….. Get over it.

  83. mistic1 Says:

    Tom walsh wants his playbook back.

  84. Dude Says:

    Yep, quality coaches willing to come to Oakland stretches around the corner and down the street!! LOL! A fool is born every day.

  85. Richochet Says:

    Al has zero problems letting head coaches go, but seems to hate admitting mistakes with draft picks, or FA signings..

    Al is currently in a PR disaster freefall since his notorious 270 million FA bottom of the barrel spending spree.

    That off-season will go down as one of the most backasswards frivolous waste of money of all time..and the previous 3 years of top ten draft busts will likely never be beaten as far as having back to back to back busts..

    Yep, LMFAO…you da man, Al.
    Long may you reign.

  86. Raider 510 Says:

    Ok so it’s simple; you want him gone because he’s a hypocrite. You plain don’t like his character. I’ll just say I disagree with you. First of all if it really is a battle of Cable vs. Jamarcus (Idk why you keep calling him 2?) I would take Cable anyday. I supported Jamarcus and thought he really could make, still might do it but 99% chance he won’t. So Cable said he sucked, and that’s a 100% fact. What’s wrong with making that statement? He didn’t blame him he just simply responded to a question. Crappy system? Again, Raiders are not a great team. But beating the Eagles, Bengals, Steelers, and Broncos-what more can you ask for in the first year. I hope you didn’t really believe Superbowl after the Charger game. Besides that why does everyone on the team love Cable and have the most respect for him? Wonder if they feel the same way about Jamarcus…..so maybe you have a thing for Jamarcus? Idk but it’s not healthy. Not Detroit or Cleveland? Look at the records, they don’t lie.

  87. Richochet Says:

    # mistic1 Says:
    December 30th, 2009 at 8:14 pm

    There will always be quality coaches that want to come to Oakland. When you win here you are an instant star. Ask gruden. Most of the garbage that’s out there about Davis is crap. He is no different than Jerry jones, robrert craft or snyder. Peopl exagerate when Davis is involved due to his unorthodox style. This is why people go out of thier way to write letters or otherwise express interest in the job.
    ===========================================
    Wow.
    Dumb post of the day. Easily.

    When was the last quality coach that CAME TO THE RAIDERS?

    Cable, Kiffin, Shell, Turner, Callahan, Gruden, Bugel, White, Shell, Shanahan, Flores, Madden…NONE WERE QUALITY COACHES WHEN THEY CAME TO OAKLAND..not one.
    Madden left because he hated working with Al, Flores was chased off to Seattle, Shanahan fired daring to stand up to The Geezer, Shell was a puppet, fired in shame, TWICE, White was a nobody who was served the indignity of being called up ON CHRISTMAS EVE and told he was fired..for no other reason than Al just wanted to be a total a hole, Bugel (prior to Cable, that is) was arguably the most ignorant head coaching hire of all time, Gruden was an asst. who LEFT BECAUSE HE HATED AL, Callahan got fired, as did Turner, Kiffin, and soon will be Cable.

    NOT A SINGLE ONE IN THE LOT WAS A TOP COACH PRIOR TO COMING TO THE RAIDERS, and not a single one wasn’t happy as hell to get the hell out of OakSty.

    No one of any caliber will ever come to Oakland…Al is stuck hiring assts who just want a shot or washed up HC who hope for another..

    You don’t know that much about Al, do you?

  88. mistic1 Says:

    I don’t have anything against Cable, he just isn’t a very good head coach, he is not even average. I’m saying agree with Davis players win coaches are expendable, especily losing coaches. Honestly the team has gotten Much worse on cable’s side of the ball since the end of last year. Cables responsibilty bottom line. Also Cable has made bone headed personel moves. Satele for Grove, unreal. The o- line is in shambles, again this is on cable. Sorry Davis haters, and Cable apologist, this guy is not head coach material.

  89. Boss Raider 650 Says:

    Hey Rackoshyt,
    why do you waste your time here?

  90. Boss Raider 650 Says:

    Do you actually think anyone cares about those novels you type? Seriously man, go away. Nothing to see here.

  91. Dude Says:

    Boss,

    Y do you?

  92. Boss Raider 650 Says:

    I only read a couple posters here Dude. And you aint one of em.

  93. Dude Says:

    Noooooooooo…..please say it aint so! Some douche who calls himself BOSS RAIDER dznt read my posts!! NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

  94. mistic1 Says:

    Gruden super bowl winner. Madden won the superbowl and challenged for the super almost every year of his tenure. Flores won 2 super bowls and belongs in the hall of fame. These aren’t qaulity coaches?!?!? Most head coaches start as coordinators, and assistants don’t they? Davis is a visionary and has a knack for finding quality coaches. By the way gruden was traded and says he loved working here. Flores left for Seattle for a chance to be head coach and gm, a pay raise and more control essentialy. Flores loves Al Davis to this day. Madden retired due to ulcers, he has never said anything but positive things about working for Davis. Check you facts, pump your brakes. Davis is all or nothing, when he picks his next winner it will be sweet.

  95. Raider O Says:

    What’s up Dude? Where is BHP?

  96. Dude Says:

    Nothing like living in the past, eh Mistic? Hows he been lately?

  97. Richochet Says:

    # Boss Raider 650 Says:
    December 30th, 2009 at 8:52 pm

    Hey Rackoshyt,
    why do you waste your time here?
    ==================
    Correct me if I’m wrong, but you have ZERO POSTS..except to sign on to post to me??

    that’s it?

    Your sorry ass has NOTHING to say regarding the Raiders…ZERO, lol..but..BUT..you sign on to whine that I annoy you?

    In other words, without me you wouldn’t have a reason to read, to sign on, or to post…dude, you’re about as sorry as it comes.

    BTW..great retort regarding Al, and his wonderful knack of picking out HC’s..dumbass.

    You can thank me for your existence later.

  98. Richochet Says:

    # Boss Raider 650 Says:
    December 30th, 2009 at 8:57 pm

    I only read a couple posters here Dude. And you aint one of em.
    ==========================
    But I am.

    So there.

  99. Boss Raider 650 Says:

    oh another waste of space from racko how exciting

  100. Kirk Says:

    The Raiders can be fixed very easily.

    Hire Gruden and a GM.

    Draft an offensive tackle, a center, and a middle linebacker.

    Start Bush, Gradkowski, Murphy, Schilens, and Miller.

  101. Dude Says:

    Wonder which one of the past losers changed their name to Boss Raider?? Hmmmm……

  102. Boss Raider 650 Says:

    dude, take notice from Kirk. talk about your favorite team, the oakland raiders. douche!!

  103. Dude Says:

    Oh, just hiring Gruden is all it will take? Well hell sign him up. And while your at it have Bill Cowher run the d, hire Mike Leach to come coach the offense and have Parcells come on to be the GM. Sounds good to me.

  104. Raider O Says:

    Rich,

    “stupid Pills”!!
    Did you have to insult me the other day?

  105. Dude Says:

    Boss,

    Follow your own advice. Im sure it will be riveting.

  106. Raider 510 Says:

    Wow mistic just say your a Davis fan already, forget the Raiders.

  107. Boss Raider 650 Says:

    riveting?

  108. Raider O Says:

    I think JR will be back next season, but I’m not sure if Al will keep Cable for another season. I hope he doesn’t.

    Fire Cable!

  109. Dude Says:

    Yeah, riveting. Look it up moron.

  110. mistic1 Says:

    It’s not about living in the past, it’s about being clear on The coaches that Davis has brought durring the years. Some people make it seem as though we never have qaulity coaches, simply untrue. When you Madden, Gruden, and Flores were not great coaches, I must disagree. We may be critical of the Davis method, however we win plenty. We have had great moments including this decade. Let’s not get too carried away, would we rather be ram fans. Would you rather have bidwell, York, or the fords running the show?

  111. Raider O Says:

    I don’t think we improved much over last year. Branch & Seymour are the only improvement. We still allow about 150 yards rushing on Defense, and most big runs are up the middle. We need DTs & LBs on Defense.

  112. KoolKell Says:

    Mistic1 Says:
    December 30th, 2009 at 8:50 pm

    I don’t have anything against Cable, he just isn’t a very good head coach, he is not even average. I’m saying agree with Davis players win coaches are expendable, especily losing coaches. Honestly the team has gotten Much worse on cable’s side of the ball since the end of last year. Cables responsibilty bottom line. Also Cable has made bone headed personel moves. Satele for Grove, unreal. The o- line is in shambles, again this is on cable. Sorry Davis haters, and Cable apologist, this guy is not head coach material.
    —————————-
    Looks like this is the official Raider Line. Blame everything on Cable.

    Mistic, are you BHP?

  113. Dude Says:

    8 straight 11 loss seasons. Yep, lots of wins.

  114. Raider O Says:

    We also need a CB. CJ plays descent, but Stanford can’t cover!

    On offense, we need a a RT, RG, FB, and better coaching and play calling!

    We have a rookie WRs coach who is trying to coach our very young WRs! And a rookie HC who is calling plays that don’t work!

  115. Richochet Says:

    # mistic1 Says:
    December 30th, 2009 at 9:01 pm

    Gruden super bowl winner. Madden won the superbowl and challenged for the super almost every year of his tenure. Flores won 2 super bowls and belongs in the hall of fame. These aren’t qaulity coaches?!?!? Most head coaches start as coordinators, and assistants don’t they? Davis is a visionary and has a knack for finding quality coaches. By the way gruden was traded and says he loved working here. Flores left for Seattle for a chance to be head coach and gm, a pay raise and more control essentialy. Flores loves Al Davis to this day. Madden retired due to ulcers, he has never said anything but positive things about working for Davis. Check you facts, pump your brakes. Davis is all or nothing, when he picks his next winner it will be sweet.
    =====================================
    You’re confusing yourself. YOU stated “quality coaches always want to come to Oakland”.
    What part of that confused you?
    Madden and Flores WEREN’T QUALITY COACHES..so how the hell do you figure a single quality coach wanted to come here? NONE DID..and none have..quality coaches know they don’t have to put up with Al’s bull..and stay away.

    And your “visionary”?? LMFAO..oh yeah, Kiffin? awesome..Cable? wonderful replica of a tree stump..Bugel? Shell? Callahan? White? Turner? Oh yeah..they rock.

    Gruden was traded BECAUSE HE STATED, AND I QUOTE ‘There isn’t enough money for me to return and coach for that man”..guess you were on vacation that month all that went down.

    Flores? Hell, he was A SUPER BOWL HC, and you’re saying he gladly left to go be a HC at the rival’s Seahawks? idiot take. He got fired, and he went there in spite..and now he’s but a token yes man, who sucks as an analysis.

    and you couldn’t be any dumber regarding Madden if you took a class. the last year Madden coached HE AND AL DAVIS DIDN’T TALK for a full three months..you know..pretty much the WHOLE SEASON.
    Phil Villipiano is on record stating how it was a damn shame on how Al Davis screwed over John Madden and that Madden deserved better, and that the team deserved better.

    Guess you were on vacation that year as well.

    Stick around, Jr., you’ll learn something.

  116. mistic1 Says:

    I am a Davis fan, I am a raider fan, they are one in the same. Every real raider fan knows this. Davis only wants to win, he is cut throat, unconventional, and shrewd. Davis is a pirate, this is why we win. This also why we lose. I would rather have Davis taking chances and spending money on guys he bieves in, then some non football corporate entity that is looking for another tax write off. We can’t win all of the time, but in the grand scheme if things we do win a lot more than most teams in this league.

  117. Richochet Says:

    # Dude Says:
    December 30th, 2009 at 9:08 pm

    Wonder which one of the past losers changed their name to Boss Raider?? Hmmmm……
    ===============
    Well, gosh..he did sign on to whine about me posting, so my guess it’s either priest, oakglenn, or one of the Bopsis twins, NorcoDipwad or Br ien the Boob.

  118. Richochet Says:

    LMFAO..that spelling and the mad Al lovefest screams priest.

    Hey, Priest..what’s up with the ghetto ebonics crap on the radio?

    Made JR sound lucid.

  119. Raider O Says:

    This year’s team is a joke! from coaching to the players and how they play, and Al for allowing this mess for the past 7 years! Thank God for Madden and PS!

  120. Richochet Says:

    # mistic1 Says:
    December 30th, 2009 at 9:27 pm

    We can’t win all of the time, but in the grand scheme if things we do win a lot more than most teams in this league.
    ===================================
    You need to change the batteries on your abacus, No team has more losses in the LAST SEVEN YEARS THAN THE RAIDERS..

    Care to revise your statement, sir? Ma’am? bub?

  121. mistic1 Says:

    Gruden was right, Davis was not going to give him a raise and traded him. Yes Flores was eventually fired, that’s what happens in the NFL when you stop winning. You can’t blame him for then taking a bigger desk for more pay in Seattle. Madden understood Davis, they did not have to speak much, madden was winning and Davis let him do his thing. By the way gruden said he enjoyed his coaching stay here and working for Davis. Flores does radio for the raiders, and always speaks highly of Davis. Madden called Davis one of his best friends at his hall of fame induction. It doesn’t have to be rainbows and butterflies while working together but it better work. I still don’t understand how anyone could claim gruden, Flores , and madden are anything less than great.

  122. 504 Raider Says:

    The decision has already been made on Cable. This last game will have nothing to do with it. If you want to know if he stays or not just look at the facts.

    1. Going in to the season there were 3 premium picks (IMO) who were untouchable (Russell, McFadden & DHB). They have not developed under Cable.

    2. O-Line is still a mess.
    3. Play calling and scheme is atrocious.
    4. Bad Press from the Hanson ordeal.
    5. Bad Press from Cable hitting women.
    6. More Blowout losses than total wins. There’s also other losses that were not blowouts nonetheless.
    7. We avg. about 12 pts per game. Maybe less.
    8. We rank at the bottom on offensive categories.
    9. Can’t win two in a row.
    10. Cable holds grudges with players (Bush, Walker, Russell).

    We have turned the corner this season only to see what’s around it then hurry up, put it in reverse and get our asses back where we came from.

    So these facts point to Cable being fired by this time next week.

  123. mistic1 Says:

    I said the grand scheme of things meaning more than just the last seven years. 3 division titles 2 afc championships, and 1 super bowl since 2000. Not bad in the grand scheme oh things.

  124. VanHeathen Says:

    Mistic = Priest…
    7 yrs of losing badly have eliminated all the good of the early part of the deacde…period.

  125. mistic1 Says:

    504, you nailed it. Cable is already walking the raider plank.

  126. 504 Raider Says:

    Never read this on here regarding our draft but it’s something that would be very interesting.

    We need O-Line help in the worst way and the Pouncey Twins at Florida are both expected to declare for the draft. They are both 2nd team All-Americans and play center and guard (side by side).

    They have started together for years on that Florida line and won many games together. These guys would learn fast because they’re smart and played together their whole lives. They can be had in different rounds.

  127. raider91 Says:

    Al Davis is a dumb@ss the game has past him by, stop blaming it all on the coaches, Al is part of the problem for messing things up as well as the coaches.

  128. KoolKell Says:

    Mistic

    In case you haven’t noticed, the Raiders General Manager has 6 winning seasons in the last 20 years. Coinciding with the advent of Free Agency.

  129. Richochet Says:

    # mistic1 Says:
    December 30th, 2009 at 9:39 pm

    Gruden was right, Davis was not going to give him a raise and traded him.

    RICHOCHET: In other words, I was right. Yeah, I know. The best coach the Raiders had in the last 20 years hated Al so much he refused to work for him, for ANY AMOUNT OF MONEY.

    ####################
    Yes Flores was eventually fired, that’s what happens in the NFL when you stop winning.

    RICHOCHET: In other words, I was right. Yeah, I know. You stated he left to go be HC and GM..He had no intention of any of that UNTIL HE WAS FIRED, BY AL.

    ####################
    You can’t blame him for then taking a bigger desk for more pay in Seattle.

    RICHOCHET: don’t try that weak ass spin. Just state “You’re right, thanks”

    ##########################
    Madden understood Davis, they did not have to speak much, madden was winning and Davis let him do his thing.

    RICHOCHET: WRONG. Madden REFUSED to talk with Al. I see you conveniently avoided the comments by Villipiano that stated it was total BS on what Al did to Madden..gosh, I wonder why? MAYBE BECAUSE YOU KNOW YOU’RE FULL OF CRAP. Just ask, and I’ll clue you in on what happened.
    Oh..that’s right..you won’t. Easier to pretend you didn’t see this.

    #######################
    By the way gruden said he enjoyed his coaching stay here and working for Davis.

    RICHOCHET: by the way, you’re full of crap. Gruden said he loved coaching the team, NOT working for Davis. Gruden stated he appreciates Davis giving him his shot. AFTERWARDS, when pressed, Gruden said, and continues to say the politically correct comment regarding OWNERS.
    See..KEY WORD IS OWNERS.
    ANY OWNER WANTING TO, OR CONSIDERING hiring Gruden is full aware of comments made AFTER leaving his previous jobs. NO ONE WANTS TO HIRE SOMEONE who’s going to air dirty laundry after wards..ever.
    However, Gruden IS ON RECORD, AS IS HIS AGENT of saying ‘There isn’t enough money for me to return and work for that man.” Now, I SEE YOU AVOIDED THAT COMMENT AS WELL..of course you did…because it proves me right.
    ########################
    Flores does radio for the raiders, and always speaks highly of Davis.
    RICHOCHET: LMFAO..yeah, HE GOT HIRED BY THE RAIDERS, moron. What’s he going to say? “the guy who pays me, or is responsible for me announcing screwed me over”??
    Are you this slow in real life, priest?
    ########################
    Madden called Davis one of his best friends at his hall of fame induction.

    RICHOCHET: And Madden has NOTHING TO DO WITH AL DAVIS at all..PERIOD. has been to what? one game? two? NEVER is seen with Al Davis..NOT ONCE SINCE HE LEFT THE RAIDERS..Madden has made himself available to the league, BUT NOT TO AL. Madden is routinely seen at the Niners facility, but has been by the Raiders site what? couple times? Yeah, lol..they’re great buddies..

    ################
    It doesn’t have to be rainbows and butterflies while working together but it better work. I still don’t understand how anyone could claim gruden, Flores , and madden are anything less than great.

    RICHOCHET: Again, don’t backtrack. YOU stated “great coaches want to come to the Raiders”..All of those were NOBODIES when they came to the Raiders.
    Madden might arguably be considered a “great coach”..Gruden and Flores? No way in hell..just good coaches. Hell, George Seifert won a SB, and he’s NOT a great coach, just a good one.

    Any comment about Phil Villipiano’s statement about how it was just wrong what Al did to Madden his last year?

    anything?

    didn’t think so.

  130. KoolKell Says:

    Mistic1 Says:
    December 30th, 2009 at 9:27 pm

    I am a Davis fan, I am a raider fan, they are one in the same. Every real raider fan knows this.
    ==========================
    Davis Idolater, you need to report to your psychoanalyst for an intervention.

  131. mistic1 Says:

    We disagree, Flores won 2 superbowls, one as a wild card, this is great coaching. Madden has one of the highest winning percentages in history and a superbowl. Did you see his Did Did you see maddens induction speech? Gruden was a great coach for Oakland, and won a super bowl. If anything you may argue that the book is still out on him, however I would counter with the fact that superbowl trophies are put you in elite company. About the comment by former players….. Who cares?? Not every player will be happy with his former boss. Proves nothing. Most importantly you don’t have to be popular or well known to be a great coach. I get it you don’t like Davis. But again, since the late seventies when I stated following my team until now, when I compare the raider body of work to most teams in the league, I’d say we have had a pretty good run. Don’t be fairweather fans and abandon ship after a tough stretch. Also face the music your boy cable is not winning, as a result he should be fired.

  132. lefty12 Says:

    i have been a fan of the team since it was founded.if Cable is fired and Russell is reinstalled as the starting QB,i doubt if i will still be a true Raider fan-i will be more like my father-follow the team but not give a damn.the loses are tough,putting up with a GM who at times seems incompetent and insane is tough,but having to watch that piece of crap,thief Russell again might be more than i can take.

  133. mistic1 Says:

    For the record, I’m grateful as fan for all of the good football I have seen from my team and Davis. I don’t always agree with what he does, or how he does it, but Davis knows more football than me. Let’s just keep it in perspective view the entire body of work, and get caught up in tunnel vision and the last seven years. Davis believes if you don’t win the super bowl it doesn’t matter how many you lose, there is no second place prize. Do I wish callahan and shell cable could have worked of course. It hasn’t so you simply head in another direction, we never rebuild, we only reload.

  134. mistic1 Says:

    Belicheck, Knoll, walsh, seifert, Parcell, Gibbs, Flores, Shula, a short list of coaches with at least 2 super bowl wins. Fairly impressive I would think.

  135. Richochet Says:

    FOOLISH to equate wins with ‘great coaching’. By your analogy, every coach who coached a SB win is a “great coach”.
    Completely ridiculous. Seifert won two SB. Seifert will NEVER be confused with being a great coach. Seifert, like Flores, had a very good team. Gruden, like Seifert, took over a team that was already at the top of their game.
    Gruden, Seifert, Flores, Tomlin, Coughlin, Dungy, Billick, Vermeil, etc..are NOT great coaches. Good but not great. If you think so, we obviously differ on the description of “great coach”.

    You’re saying that had the Rams not made that last tackle, Fischer is now automatically a “great coach” because the Titans won instead of the Rams??

    and the comment from ‘former players”?? that “former player”, villipiano was completely backing Madden..his boss..while stating publicly that it was total BS what Madden’s boss, Al, was doing. Madden was genuinely loved by the players..Al wasn’t. You missed the point completely.

    And yeah, I saw Madden’s induction speech. Ever hear of politically correct? You see Marcus Allen’s speech? Now, what SHOULD he have said? That Al is a spiteful backstabbing lowlife who tried his hardest to screw him, and his career? That his one true thrill was sticking it to Al when KC played the Raiders? Or what he did say, which is giving props to everyone?? ISN’T THAT WHAT EVERY INDUCTEE DOES? You ever see anyone bi tch and moan about someone who screwed them along the way? Of course not..be a big black eye.
    Madden, and Gruden, and Marcus, and every single person who has something to lose says the politically correct thing when it’s a public comment.
    Hell, lol, look at Cable..guy’s a recording. Rarely says the true..just a lot of BS designed to not give reporters something to run with.
    And MY boy Cable? lol..wrong. Guy’s about as effective as a HC as a marshmellow.
    Of course YOUR BOY, Al, hired him.
    Same guy who hired Kiffin..Shell..Callahan..Bugel..Turner…White..

    Detect a trend here?

  136. NoMoreFargas Says:

    I’ve been a life long Raider fan over 30+ yrs never ever cared much for Davis, you forget most people watch the game for the players, in LA al took a back seat to the Great Marcus Allen and again when Chucky dolls filled the Coliseum he got rid of his coach so I will always back my Raiders but don’t always give Al the credit. If you wanna give Al credit give him credit for so many bad calls or hey how bout when he ditched Oakland he’ll do it again.

  137. 4evaRaider Says:

    Good Morning NATION!!!!

    And Happy New Years Eve…..

    Hope EVERYONE has a happy and Prosperous New Year

  138. raidertbone Says:

    Good morning Nation!
    You know, I figured it would be too much to ask to say we had really turned the corner here by season’s end — injuries, lack of production, lack of progress and ineffective coaching have pretty much done us in again. I think Cable is writing his own ticket out of town and we just have to figure out what we’re going to do with JaDavis. We don’t merely have to regroup, we’ve got to rebuild the entire mindset … and those idiots from out-of-town who don’t even support the Raiders but found the need to put up a big billboard to Al – can all go f- themselves!

  139. raidertbone Says:

    It’s interesting how Cable comments that JaDavis “has all the tools to be a successful quarterback” then turns right around and says “it’s a matter of him accepting and learning what it is he has to do to be great”. Dude already knows all that, but doesn’t care — he already got paid. Now Cable is trying to back his way out of a horrible situation while maintaining his job. Whether Cable he stays around or not, JaDavis has to go … his presence is a cancer to the organization. Maybe we’ll see him next year on “Dancing With The Stars”.

  140. 4evaRaider Says:

    JaDavis and Sapp can be dace partners =)

    What a beautiful couple

  141. 4evaRaider Says:

    daNNNNNNNNNNNNce

  142. raidertbone Says:

    # 4evaRaider Says:
    December 31st, 2009 at 4:21 am

    JaDavis and Sapp can be dace partners =)

    What a beautiful couple
    ________________________________

    Yeah, but who wears the dress?

  143. raidertbone Says:

    In the Walter Football draft breakdown, where they have us drafting another quarterback (Ryan Mallett) in round one, JaDavis is referred to as “Captain Skittles” — lmfao!

  144. raidertbone Says:

    I just heard that there was interest in pursuing Derek Anderson in the offseason — another Cleveland Browns castoff quarterback? I see a disturbing trend!

  145. raidertbone Says:

    What’s really interesting is that our defense is fifth in the league in sacks, but we’re way down in 27th for average number of yards yielded (per game) on the ground. Flashes of brilliance, yet consistent underachievement — that pretty much sums it up!

  146. Florida Pete Says:

    my crystal ball tells me this weekend’s game is going to be a beatdown of biblical proportions…

    uh…

    wait…

    oh…

    we’re the team that’s gonna get the beating…

  147. vegas raider Says:

    raidertbone Says:
    December 30th, 2009 at 7:33 pm
    I wouldn’t call the Philly win a “quality win”!!

    **********************************

    FYI, The Eagles have the 3rd lowest odds to win the Super Bowl.

    Colts than Saints than Eagles than Pats than Vikings.

    I just looked yesterday. Tells you Las Vegas is pretty confident of Philly winning this weekend and maybe getting the #2 seed in the NFC.

  148. 4evaRaider Says:

    tbone….they both wear the dress =)

  149. hwnrdr Says:

    Good Morning Nation!!!
    Last day of the year/decade! Lets see how this last 10 years went….hmmmm….3 out of 10 winning seasons?

  150. 4evaRaider Says:

    in twenty-ten….we rise frm the dead!

  151. vegas raider Says:

    There really isn’t much of a difference between Eagles, Pat, Vikings, Chargers and even Cowboys and Steelers (ahead of the Bengals even though they might not even get in) as far as odds go. All of them are around 8 or 9 to 1.

    I still have my ticket from week 2 when I put $20 on the Saints to win it all at 9 to 1. Will be hedging that in the playoffs.

  152. 4evaRaider Says:

    frOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOm

  153. RaiderRockstar Says:

    My dog sleeps about 20 hours a day. She has her food prepared for her. She can eat whenever she wants, 24/7/365.

    Her meals are provided at no cost to her. She visits the Dr. once a year for her checkup, and again during the year if any medical needs arise. For this she pays nothing, and nothing is required of her. She lives in a nice neighborhood in a house that is much larger than she needs, but she is not required to do any upkeep. If she makes a mess, someone else cleans it up.

    She has her choice of luxurious places to sleep. She receives these accommodations absolutely free. She is living like a queen, and has absolutely no expenses whatsoever. All of her costs are picked up by others who go out and earn a living every day.

    I was just thinking about all this, and suddenly it hit me like a brick in the head, Holy &#!* my dog is a democrat!

  154. hwnrdr Says:

    Too funny Rockstar!!!

  155. RaiderRockstar Says:

    To all my Democrat Friends:

    Please accept with no obligation, implied or implicit, my best wishes for an environmentally conscious, socially responsible, low-stress, non-addictive, gender-neutral celebration of the winter solstice holiday, practiced within the most enjoyable traditions of the religious persuasion of your choice, or secular practices of your choice, with respect for the religious/secular persuasion and/or traditions of others, or their choice not to practice religious or secular traditions at all. I also wish you a fiscally successful, personally fulfilling, and medically uncomplicated recognition of the onset of the generally accepted calendar year 2010, but not without due respect for the calendars of choice of other cultures whose contributions to society have helped make America great. Not to imply that America is necessarily greater than any other country nor the only America in the Western Hemisphere. Also, this wish is made without regard to the race, creed, color, age, physical ability, religious faith, or sexual preference of the person wished.

    To all my Republican friends:

    Merry Christmas and Happy New Year!

  156. 4evaRaider Says:

    all dogs are dems….

    I’ve always said if people were like dogs,this world would be a much better place.And to think the democrats really do have it right!

  157. hwnrdr Says:

    Wait…your dog sleeps 20 hrs a day? Dam…I wish I could do that at times…haha!

  158. vegas raider Says:

    I watched Suh last night, and I got to say, he looked good, but No. 1 pick worthy?

    He had 3 tackles, one really nice one in for a loss, but I saw him handled easily with one guy on many passing plays. He could have had a let-down game, and he still looked GOOD, but if I were the Rams and looking at taking him #1, at least last night he did not look the #1 pick in the draft, IMO.

    To see the next great NFL RB, watch this true freshman Ryan Williams for Va Tech tonight. He is the best freshman RB I have seen since AP.

  159. 4evaRaider Says:

    for you Rockstar
    **********************************

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UU0tuah-x7M

  160. RaiderfanNY Says:

    Unfortunately, the run also STARTS with Ray — Ray Rice. He’s going to kill us.

    He’s the back we should have taken last year with our second-round pick, the pick Big Al traded for DeAngelo Hall.

    I wanted Clady in the first round, Rice in the second. How much better would this team be with Clady at LT, Mario H at RT and Rice running the ball?

  161. 4evaRaider Says:

    Vegas….have you seen Dion Lewis,a true freshman out of Pitt?

  162. 4evaRaider Says:

    OMG….I had Ray Rice on my FF team and week in and week out he PRODUCED every week…..only in his 2nd year out of Rutgers

  163. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Vegas,

    I think the Rams will go after a franchise QB…

    Marc Bulger has been injury prone & turnover prone the past 3 years

    only 27 TD’s & 34 INT from 2007-2009. Hasn’t passed for more than 2800 yards in any of those years either. Plus he’s 32 years old

    Drew Brees has 34 TD’s just this year alone!

  164. RaiderRockstar Says:

    I’m changing my dog’s name to Jamarcus.

  165. RaiderRockstar Says:

    4eva, I can’t watch youtube clips from work bro.

    sorry – site is banned

  166. vegas raider Says:

    4eva,

    I have seen Lewis and he is good, but this Williams kid for Va Tech, WOW!!!

  167. 4evaRaider Says:

    WOOW….no havent seen Williams but thankx 4 the heads up….

  168. hwnrdr Says:

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    December 31st, 2009 at 6:26 am
    I’m changing my dog’s name to Jamarcus.

    HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! My eggrolls (aka Lumpia) almost painted my cubicle wall!!!

  169. vegas raider Says:

    Rockstar,

    Rams desperately need a QB, but I doubt they take any QB at #1. They would be a candidate to trade down from the #33 pick into the last first and grab a QB than.

    I think the Rams take Eric Berry, S, from Tennessee at #1. They drafted O-line and D-line the last 2 years at #2 in the draft, Chris Long and Jason Smith, and those two picks are huge failures. Maybe they go Suh, but I think they address their secondary.

  170. hwnrdr Says:

    Why do I have a funny feeling that Big Al is going after Taylor Mays round 1…and the funny thing is that it was rumored that he chose his Sr yr over NFL for fear of Al drafting him…

  171. RaiderRockstar Says:

    very few DB’s are selected in the Top 5.

    they really do need to address the secondary, but teams usually do that at the bottom of the 1st round or in later rounds. or in free agency

  172. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Hwnrdr: I think Al will select at least one DB in the first 2 rounds again. not sure if Mays is the pick though

    Huff is scheduled to earn over 5 million in a contract year. Eugene = UFA. Routt = UFA. Johnson = 30 years old & torched pretty often. Bowie = cut. Holland = former WR. Boyd = former LB

  173. vegas raider Says:

    Eric Barry is going in the top 5 Rockstar, you can book that.

    Joe Haden, DB from Florida, will probably go top 15, maybe top 10.

  174. vegas raider Says:

    Only way Taylor Mays is going round 1 is if Al drafts him.

    I bet he slides furthur in the draft than Rey M did.

  175. hwnrdr Says:

    Vegas…I agree with that!

  176. hwnrdr Says:

    So Rockstar: You think CJ will see his last game in a Raiders uniform on Sunday? Poor guys gets torched but does get all the crap “non calls”…

  177. vegas raider Says:

    6 wins would be our best season since 2002.

    How sad is it that this can be our best season in 7 years? Doesn’t really feel like it does it?

  178. vegas raider Says:

    All right folks, last day of medicare enrollment period, off to make some dough!!!

    Happy New Years Raider Nation!!!

  179. hwnrdr Says:

    Happy New Years to you as well, Vegas!!!

  180. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Happy New Year Vegas! be safe brother

  181. hwnrdr Says:

    Anyone see Dirt Lot lately?

  182. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Hwnrdr: I think CJ does a good job holding his own, but he gets picked on a lot with Nnamdi on the other side. Often times he’s matched up with the other team’s #1 WR and i’m sorry to say CJ is just not a Top 10 CB in the NFL. Top 50? definately. Top 30? questionable. Routt almost stole his job in camp and we know Routt isn’t any good. I’d still take either of these guys over Fabian Washington & Chris Carr though (who both will be playing for Baltimore this week)

    I think CJ will be back. he may not start next year though …

  183. hwnrdr Says:

    I heard a rumor of Huff going to corner and Mitchell and Branch being the safeties!!! Like I said…a rumor!

  184. RaiderRockstar Says:

    gotta get some work done.

    later gents!

  185. hwnrdr Says:

    Happy New Year Rockstar to yo and your loved ones, bro!

  186. NoMoreFargas Says:

    Please fire Cable continuity is only good if you are heading in the right direction what people are happy winning 1 game than always getting blown out the next usually to inferior teams guy is garbage why do you think he has never been a winning coach, so outta nowhere he’ll be good ya right. Put you’re ego aside Al and hire a real coach not some puppet if you loved the Raiders like you say go do the right thing, and please trade this yr 1 not like we will get anybody that will help anyways.

  187. Stabler76 Says:

    Nap Kaufman, he was fun to watch. I thought I heard he left (the team) early for the ministry.

    Very strong for his size, he wasn’t very big. I remember one of the O-linemen on the team at the time complaining that Napolean a <200lb tailback could out bench-press most of the linemen.

    Eddie Anderson was another 400+ lb bench presser at safety.

  188. hwnrdr Says:

    You’re right Stabler…
    Kaufman runs a ministry in Oakland. Not sure if he runs the one on 66th or not. Its been many years since I used to work in OakTown!

  189. 4evaRaider Says:

    Rockstar…..its a video oif your hero Ronald Reagan from 12/23/1981…..tearing down the wall of church/state policy and EXTOLLING a Merry Christmas ans Happy New Year 4 Everybody!!!

  190. 4evaRaider Says:

    In his MOST Gipper tone =)

  191. NoMoreFargas Says:

    Good lord Kaufman had the biggest arms guy was so fast if he could have just caught the ball a little he would have been amazing .

  192. Stabler76 Says:

    That’s right. I was really suprised when Kaufman disappeared from the lineup. I did not know until well after, the reason why.

    I always thought it was funny, because Oakland had Napolean McCallum from the Naval Academy before Kaufman. He had to fulfull his Navy duties while playing tailback for the Raiders. I thought it was funny that a team would have two Napoleans at tailback.

    I liked Kaufman better.

  193. Dakota Says:

    RaiderfanNY Says:
    December 31st, 2009 at 6:23 am
    Unfortunately, the run also STARTS with Ray — Ray Rice. He’s going to kill us.

    He’s the back we should have taken last year with our second-round pick, the pick Big Al traded for DeAngelo Hall.

    I wanted Clady in the first round, Rice in the second. How much better would this team be with Clady at LT, Mario H at RT and Rice running the ball?
    _______________________________________________

    We wouldn’t be any better because Cable would have kept Clady on the bench or made him a long snapper and Rice would still be sitting behind Fargas.

    FIRE CABLE!!!!

  194. 4evaRaider Says:

    Hey Dakota that youtube video is for all you publicans….Happy New Year

  195. hwnrdr Says:

    Hey 4eva…anything for the Green party? Wait…what am I talking about…The S&B party? LOL

  196. raidertbone Says:

    If we beat the Ravens, we put both them and the Broncos out of the playoffs … it may be all the incentive we have, but that’s enough for me!

  197. Dakota Says:

    Very very poignant 4eva.

    lol

  198. raidertbone Says:

    # raidertbone Says:
    December 31st, 2009 at 7:46 am

    If we beat the Ravens, we put both them and the Broncos out of the playoffs … it may be all the incentive we have, but that’s enough for me!
    __________________________

    Sorry — looked at it again; the Donkeys still have to win their game too.

  199. hwnrdr Says:

    Wait…if KC beats the Donks and we beat the Ravens…Who gets knocked out? Ravens beat the Donks so identicla record will favor Baltimore…Unless Jets and Pitt sneak in…

  200. Roch R Says:

    Season Highlights:

    Opening Monday night, great game against SD
    4th Qtr in Pittsburgh
    The win against Philly

    …ending with a win against Baltimore?

  201. 4evaRaider Says:

    I’m working on it Hwnrdr Bro….(a buzzzzzzzzzzz that is)

  202. Stabler76 Says:

    So, what is the QB order?

    Frye
    Russel
    Losman
    Lechler ?

    This is the Ravens we are playing.

    Hoping the Oakland D can pick off Flacco a couple times and score.

  203. raidertbone Says:

    Anybody seen our new secret weapon on special teams?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a3bn_CH1ob8&NR=1
    “Pigeon stars for the Raiders”

  204. Dakota Says:

    With Sunday’s 35-7 beat down of the Jaguars, the Patriots cemented their spot—alongside the Chargers, Colts and Bengals—in the 2009 NFL playoffs.

    But the rest of the AFC picture? That’s about as complicated a Bill Belichick defensive scheme, with the Ravens, Jets, Broncos, Steelers, Texans, Jaguars and Dolphins all still mathematically alive for one of the final two spots.

    Here’s a cheat sheet to Sunday’s impending chaos:

    1. The Jets and Ravens control their own destiny.

    If the Ravens win at Oakland, and the J-E-T-S take down the Bengals on Sunday night at the Meadowlands, then Baltimore and the Jets are the two AFC Wildcards.

    Baltimore has to feel pretty good about drawing the Raiders in this must-win scenario (and have already been installed as an early 10-point favorite) but Oakland hasn’t been awful at home this year—racking up quality Ws against both the Eagles and Bengals.

    As for the Jets, the nature of their game against the Bengals just might hinge on what happens earlier that afternoon with the Patriots. If New England beats the Texans (Houston’s an early 7-point favorite), then the Pats clinch the third seed in the AFC, meaning that the Bengals will have nothing to play for—this paves the way for the Jets second straight gift-wrapped W.

    Although it remains to be seen, either way, how far Cincy will be willing to go to win this one.

    2. The Broncos, Steelers and Texans need some help.

    There are 10, count them, 10 different Sunday scenarios that will send Josh McDaniels’ Broncos to the playoffs:

    1) Win (vs. KC) + NYJ loss or tie + BAL loss or tie
    2) Win + NYJ loss or tie + PIT loss or tie
    3) Win + NYJ loss or tie + HOU win
    4) Win + BAL loss or tie + PIT loss or tie
    5) Win + BAL loss or tie + HOU win
    6) PIT loss + BAL loss + HOU loss + JAC loss
    7) PIT loss + BAL loss + HOU loss + NYJ loss
    8) PIT loss + BAL loss + JAC loss + NYJ loss
    9) PIT loss + HOU loss + JAC loss + NYJ loss
    10) MIA loss or tie + NYJ loss + BAL loss + HOU loss + JAC loss or tie

    The Steelers and Texans can only make it if one of three separate storylines play out.

    Pittsburgh clinches a playoff spot with:

    1) Win (@ MIA) + HOU loss or tie + NYJ loss or tie
    2) Win + HOU loss or tie + BAL loss or tie
    3) Win + NYJ loss or tie + BAL loss or tie + DEN loss or tie

    Houston clinches a playoff spot with:

    1) Win (vs. NE) + NYJ loss or tie + BAL loss or tie
    2) Win + NYJ loss or tie + DEN loss or tie
    3) Win + BAL loss or tie + DEN loss or tie

    3. The Dolphins and Jaguars need a modern day miracle.

    Yeah, the Fins and Jags are still alive, but they’re on life support, and it’s only a matter of time before the NFL Gods pull the plug.

    That either of these teams is playing after this week is highly unlikely, but just for fun, here’s how it can happen.

    Jacksonville clinches a playoff spot with:

    1) JAC win + PIT loss + BAL loss + DEN loss + HOU loss
    2) JAC win + PIT loss + BAL loss + DEN loss + NYJ loss
    3) JAC win + PIT loss + BAL loss + HOU loss + NYJ loss
    4) JAC win + PIT loss + DEN loss + HOU loss + NYJ loss
    5) JAC win + NYJ loss + DEN loss + HOU loss + BAL loss

    Miami clinches a playoff spot with a win + NYJ loss + BAL loss + HOU loss + JAC loss or tie.

    But that’s all.

    http://www.csnne.com/pages/landing?Possible-AFC-playoff-scenarios=1&blockID=108366&feedID=3352

  205. Florida Pete Says:

    i think we are in deep schit this weekend…

    no o-line…

    no quarterback…

    no offense…

    it doesn’t matter what the over-under is…

    take the under…

    the raiders will… for the first time in NFL history…

    wind up with a negative score…

    final: Ravens 10… Raiders -6…

  206. Dakota Says:

    Pete, I think they should change the safety rule…it should no longer be two points for the other team, it should be negative two points for the team tackled in their own end zone…then we might get your 10 to -6 score this weekend in Oakland.

  207. Florida Pete Says:

    Dakota Says:
    December 31st, 2009 at 8:04 am
    Pete, I think they should change the safety rule…it should no longer be two points for the other team, it should be negative two points for the team tackled in their own end zone…then we might get your 10 to -6 score this weekend in Oakland.

    :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::

    uh… you do know that i was kidding, yes???

  208. garcia Says:

    One consolation to the Chargers making the Super Bowl, Seabass goes to the Pro Bowl as an alternate.

  209. iriebuff Says:

    Not sure about the under…Rice/McGahee, et al may run rampent, though would agree we’ll be hard pressed to score any points. Have to say like the Ravens giving our points.

  210. raidertbone Says:

    # garcia Says:
    December 31st, 2009 at 8:09 am

    One consolation to the Chargers making the Super Bowl, Seabass goes to the Pro Bowl as an alternate.
    ________________________________

    Then, he can attempt an 85 yard field goal, toward the end of the first half!

  211. iriebuff Says:

    just don’t see Satele/Morris holding the interior vs. Ngata, let alone the edges vs. Suggs/Johnson.

    BTW no one talks about it much but Super Mario is not good at pass protection, solid in the run game though…

  212. Dakota Says:

    You better be!!!!!! Now shape up or ship out!!!!!

  213. raidertbone Says:

    You laughed; therefore, you MUST be penalized 15 yards for unsportsmanlike conduct. If you do it again, we’ll have to lock you in an electrical closet!

  214. Dakota Says:

    A lot of ball dropping tonight…I wonder if this is DHB’s favorite holiday?

  215. raidertbone Says:

    # Dakota Says:
    December 31st, 2009 at 8:17 am

    A lot of ball dropping tonight…I wonder if this is DHB’s favorite holiday?
    ____________________________________

    Isn’t he sponsoring one of these events?

  216. 408RAIDER Says:

    Bring On the ravens!

  217. 4evaRaider Says:

    COOOOOL

    Dakota is on a ROLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL

  218. 4evaRaider Says:

    Well well well…..

    If it isnt The KING of FF!!!!

  219. Dakota Says:

    DHB made $248,000.00 per catch this season. Not bad!

  220. raidertbone Says:

    Okay, the ultimate penalty: if the 15 yarder and the electrical closet don’t work, maybe the offender should be forced to listen to an entire 45 minutes of Norv Turner — THAT should be enough to wipe out the laughter!

  221. hwnrdr Says:

    4Eva…Hey…its always good to get your buzz on (early)…I know as soon as I get home, I will too!!!

  222. 408RAIDER Says:

    yes?…

  223. los raiders de don rober Says:

    McFadden is gonna run rampant at this soft defense! DHB is gonna catch a ton of balls across the midlle and break the for long gains. Cable is gonna pimp slap the whole cheerleading section…any other new year wishes?

  224. Dakota Says:

    Justin Fargas has made $12,535,840 in 7 seasons tallying 10 total TDs for an average of $1,253,584 per TD.

  225. raidertbone Says:

    And Tommy Kelly has made $7 million every time he loses his pants during a game!

  226. RaiderRockstar Says:

    A lot of ball dropping tonight…I wonder if this is DHB’s favorite holiday?

    ***

    Phillip Rivers = still waiting for balls to drop

  227. Dakota Says:

    In 7 seasons Sam Williams has made a total of $4,139,600 for an average of 13.4 solo tackles a year.

  228. 4evaRaider Says:

    I woulda bet my bottom dollar on that Hwnrdr!!!!!!!!

  229. los raiders de don rober Says:

    In 7 seasons Sam Williams has made a total of $4,139,600 for an average of 13.4 solo tackles a year.
    ____________________________________________________

    Yeah, but he looks damn good getting off the bus!

  230. Dakota Says:

    In two years Al has paid Javon Walker $14,003,560 for 15 catches.

  231. 4evaRaider Says:

    lol

  232. NorthernD Says:

    Greyson Gunheim and DHB back for the game.
    Ravens won’t even show up now.

    Can’t wait for the fourth quarter when DHB catches a 12 yard out when the team is down by 20.
    Gunheim can pick up another sack like last year, and everyone can project that out to 16 sacks over a full season.

  233. RaiderRockstar Says:

    got anything on Russell or Warren?

  234. 4evaRaider Says:

    how are ya 408?

  235. RaiderRockstar Says:

    i’ll take Greyson Gunheim over Jay Richardson or William Joseph!

  236. Raider O Says:

    1- Fire Cable!
    2- hire Fassel, Harbaugh, or Gilbride!
    3- Draft a DT or MLB in the 1st.
    4- Draft Carlos Dunlap if he was available at 2.
    5- Draft a RT & RG.
    6- Draft or sign a blocking FB!
    7- add another CB!
    8- add depth to both lines!
    9- Cut Walker, Fargas, Warren, Cooper, green, and TK if he doesn’t restructure his contract.
    10- We need to add a few players in FA, but we can’t g crazy!

  237. NorthernD Says:

    Dakota,
    Since you’re on the math kick, try and figure out how much Al has made over years.
    You’d probably freak out.

  238. Dakota Says:

    Over the past two seasons Al has paid Tommy Kelly $20,980,040 for 67 solo tackles and 5.5 sacks and one priceless trouser dropping moment.

  239. 4evaRaider Says:

    lmaoooooooooooooooooooooooooo

  240. raidertbone Says:

    Just curious — How much did JaDavis get paid for his last Burger King commercial?

  241. 408RAIDER Says:

    Raiders (7): linebacker Jon Alston, tackle Khalif Barnes, linebacker Ricky Brown, quarterback Charlie Frye, linebacker Thomas Howard, linebacker Kirk Morrison, cornerback Stanford Routt.<——- restricted free agents

  242. Dakota Says:

    Over the past three seasons Al has paid Cornell Green $4,424,080 for 20 QB killer sacks allowed, 25 drive killing penalties, and one hissy fit at the fat QB.

  243. hwnrdr Says:

    Well…believe it or not…its time to do some work…
    HAPPY NEW YEAR NATION!!! Be safe, but have a good time!
    To all who will be there on Sunday…see you there!!!

  244. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Russell signed a six-year contract worth up to $68 million, with $31.5 million guaranteed

    so far we have 18 TD passes in 3 seasons…

  245. Dakota Says:

    Jon Condo has made $1,358,400 in his career for those beautiful snaps.

  246. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Happy New Year Hwnrdr !!!

  247. raidertbone Says:

    # Dakota Says:
    December 31st, 2009 at 8:52 am

    Over the past three seasons Al has paid Cornell Green $4,424,080 for 20 QB killer sacks allowed, 25 drive killing penalties, and one hissy fit at the fat QB.
    __________________________________________

    Dakota – you go! You should take all these facts, wrap them up and send them to Alex Trabek. They could make a new category: “Overpaid Underachievers”

  248. NorthernD Says:

    408RAIDER Says:
    December 31st, 2009 at 8:52 am
    Raiders (7): linebacker Jon Alston, tackle Khalif Barnes, linebacker Ricky Brown, quarterback Charlie Frye, linebacker Thomas Howard, linebacker Kirk Morrison, cornerback Stanford Routt.<——- restricted free agents
    ==================
    Doubt they offer contracts to any of them. Routt??

  249. wishbone Says:

    A few questions for the old, senile jackass AD.

    1)Why are you paying Javon Walker 5 mil to not play?
    2)Why do you wait till week 16 to put Nick Miller on IR?
    3)If you are keeping JR why are you not playing him?
    4)Why have you continued to keep #52 at MLB yet being at the bottom of the NFL in run defense every year?
    5)Why don’t you do all Raider fans a favor and just fu*king die?

  250. RaiderRockstar Says:

    31.5 million guaranteed?

    that means if we cut him this offseason we’ll have paid JaWalrus 1.75 million for each TD pass

  251. NorthernD Says:

    raidertbone Says:
    December 31st, 2009 at 8:54 am
    # Dakota Says:
    December 31st, 2009 at 8:52 am

    Over the past three seasons Al has paid Cornell Green $4,424,080 for 20 QB killer sacks allowed, 25 drive killing penalties, and one hissy fit at the fat QB.
    __________________________________________

    Dakota – you go! You should take all these facts, wrap them up and send them to Alex Trabek. They could make a new category: “Overpaid Underachievers”
    ======================================
    I’ll take ” Raider Faders ” for 400 Alex…

  252. raidertbone Says:

    #

    Happy New Year Hwnrdr !!!
    # raidertbone Says:
    December 31st, 2009 at 8:54 am

    # Dakota Says:
    December 31st, 2009 at 8:52 am

    Over the past three seasons Al has paid Cornell Green $4,424,080 for 20 QB killer sacks allowed, 25 drive killing penalties, and one hissy fit at the fat QB.
    __________________________________________

    Dakota – you go! You should take all these facts, wrap them up and send them to Alex Trabek. They could make a new category: “Overpaid Underachievers”
    _________________________________

    … or Budweiser’s “real men of genius”: “Here’s to you, Mr. Jump Offsides, Destroy Your Quarterback, Twist Your Ankle and Throw a Hissyfit Guy”!

  253. 4evaRaider Says:

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    i might add : have a large hanky handy and i mean a large one. or a box of PUFFS tissues..
    what a beautiful ending……

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    A Santa Story – Awesome! (Have hanky handy
    A Santa Story – Awesome!> >>>>> > Three years ago, a little boy and his grandmother came to see>>>>> > Santa at Mayfair Mall in Wisconsin . The child climbed up on>>>>> > his lap, holding a picture of a little girl.>>>>> >>>>>> > “Who is this?” asked Santa, smiling,>>>>> > “Your friend? Your sister?”>>>>> >>>>>> > “Yes, Santa,” he replied. “My sister,>>>>> > Sarah, who is very sick,” he said sadly.>>>>> >>>>>> > Santa glanced over at the grandmother who was waiting>>>>> > nearby, and saw her dabbing her eyes with a tissue.>>>>> >>>>>> > “She wanted to come with
    me to see you, oh, so>>>>> > very much, Santa!” the child exclaimed. “She>>>>> > misses you,” he added softly.>>>>> >>>>>> > Santa tried to be cheerful and encouraged a smile to>>>>> > the boy’s face, asking him what he wanted>>>>> > Santa to bring him>>>>> > for Christmas. When they finished their visit, the>>>>> > Grandmother came over to help the child off his lap,>>>>> > and started to say
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    …>>>>> > she has leukemia and isn’t expected to make it even>>>>> > through the holidays,” she said>>>>> > through tear-filled eyes. “Is there any way, Santa>>>>> > . any possible way that you could come see Sarah?>>>>> > That’s all she’s asked for, for Christmas, is>>>>> > to see Santa.”>>>>> >>>>>> > Santa blinked and swallowed hard and told the woman>>>>> > to leave information with his elves
    as to where Sarah>>>>> > was, and he would see what he could>>>>> > do.>>>>> >>>>>> > Santa thought of little else the rest of that>>>>> > afternoon. He knew what he had to do. “What if it>>>>> > were MY child lying in that hospital bed,>>>>> > dying,” he thought with a sinking heart,>>>>> > “this is the least I can do.”>>>>> >>>>>> > When Santa finished visiting with all the boys and>>>>> > girls that evening, he retrieved from his helper the>>>>> > name of the hospital where Sarah was staying.>>>>> >>>>>> >
    He asked the assistant location manager how to get to>>>>> > Children’s Hospital.>>>>> >>>>>> > “Why?” Rick asked, with a puzzled look on>>>>> > his face.>>>>> >>>>>> > Santa relayed to him the conversation with>>>>> > Sarah’s grandmother earlier that day.>>>>> > “C’mon…. I’ll take you there,” Rick said>>>>> > softly.>>>>> >>>>>> > Rick drove them to the hospital and came inside with>>>>> > Santa. They found out which room Sarah was in. A>>>>> > pale Rick said he would wait out in the hall.>>>>>
    >>>>>> > Santa quietly peeked into the room through the>>>>> > half-closed door and saw little Sarah on the bed. The>>>>> > room was full of what appeared to be her family; there>>>>> > was the Grandmother and the girl’s brother he had>>>>> > met earlier that day. A woman whom he guessed was>>>>> > Sarah’s mother stood by the bed, gently pushing>>>>> > Sarah’s thin hair off her forehead. And another woman>>>>> > who he discovered later was Sarah’s aunt, sat in a>>>>> > chair near the bed with a weary, sad look on her>>>>> > face. They were talking quietly, and Santa could>>>>> > sense the warmth and closeness of the family, and>>>>> > their love and concern for Sarah.>>>>> >>>>>> > Taking a deep breath, and forcing a smile on his>>>>> > face, Santa entered the room, bellowing a hearty,>>>>> > “Ho, ho, ho!”>>>>> >>>>>> > “Santa!” shrieked little Sarah weakly, as>>>>> > she tried to escape her bed to run to him,>>>>> > IV>>>>> > tubes>>>>> > intact. Santa rushed to her side and gave her a warm hug.>>>>> >>>>>> > A child the tender age of his own son — 4 years old>>>>> > — gazed up at him with wonder and excitement. Her>>>>> > skin was pale and her short tresses bore telltale bald>>>>> > patches from the effects of chemotherapy. But all he>>>>> > saw when he looked at her was a pair of huge, blue>>>>> > eyes. His heart melted, and he had to force himself to>>>>> > choke back tears. Though his eyes were riveted upon>>>>> >
    Sarah’s face, he could hear the gasps and quiet sobbing>>>>> > of the women in the room.>>>>> > As he and Sarah began talking, the family crept>>>>> > quietly to the bedside one by one,>>>>> > squeezing Santa’s shoulder or his hand gratefully,>>>>> > whispering “thank you” as they gazed>>>>> > sincerely at him with shining eyes. Santa and>>>>> > Sarah talked and talked, and she told him excitedly all>>>>> > the toys she wanted for Christmas, assuring him>>>>> > she’d been a very good girl that year. As>>>>> > their time together dwindled, Santa felt led in his>>>>> > spirit to pray for Sarah, and asked for permission>>>>> > from the girl’s mother. She nodded in agreement,>>>>> > and the entire family circled around Sarah’s bed,>>>>> > holding hands. Santa looked intensely at Sarah and>>>>> > asked her if she believed in angels.>>>>> >>>>>> > “Oh, yes, Santa… I do!” she exclaimed.>>>>> >>>>>> > “Well, I’m going to ask that angels watch>>>>> > over you, “he said. Laying one hand on the>>>>> > child’s head, Santa closed his eyes and prayed. He asked>>>>> > that God touch little Sarah, and heal her body from>>>>> > this disease. He asked that angels minister to>>>>> > her, watch and keep her.>>>>> > And when he finished praying, still with eyes closed,>>>>> > he started singing softly, “Silent
    Night,>>>>> > Holy Night…. all is calm, all is bright.” The>>>>> > family joined in, still holding hands, smiling at>>>>> > Sarah, and crying tears of hope, tears of joy for>>>>> > this moment, as Sarah beamed at them all. When the song>>>>> > ended, Santa sat on the side of the bed again and>>>>> > held Sarah’s frail, small hands in his own.>>>>> >>>>>> > “Now, Sarah, “he said authoritatively,>>>>> > “you have a job to do, and that>>>>> > is to concentrate on getting well. I want you to>>>>> > have fun playing with your friends this summer, and I>>>>> > expect to see you at my house at Mayfair Mall this time>>>>> > next year!” He knew it was risky
    proclaiming that, to>>>>> > this little girl who had terminal cancer, but he>>>>> > “had” to. He had to give her the greatest>>>>> > gift he could — not dolls or games or toys — but the gift>>>>> > of HOPE.>>>>> >>>>>> > “Yes, Santa! “Sarah>>>>> > exclaimed, her eyes bright.>>>>> >>>>>> > He leaned down and kissed her on the forehead and>>>>> > left the room. Out in the hall, the minute>>>>> > Santa’s eyes met Rick’s, a look passed between them>>>>> > and they wept unashamed.. Sarah’s mother and>>>>> > grandmother slipped out of the room quickly and>>>>> > rushed to Santa’s side to thank him.>>>>> >>>>>> > “My only child is the same age as Sarah,”>>>>> > he explained quietly. “This is the least I>>>>> > could do.” They nodded with understanding and
    hugged>>>>> > him.>>>>> >>>>>> > One year later, Santa was again back on the set in>>>>> > Milwaukee for his six-week, seasonal job which he so>>>>> > loves to do. Several weeks went by and then one day a>>>>> > child came up to sit on his lap. “Hi, Santa!>>>>> > Remember me?!”>>>>> >>>>>> > “Of course, I do,” Santa proclaimed (as he>>>>> > always does), smiling down at her.>>>>> >>>>>> > After all, the secret to being a “good”>>>>> > Santa is to always make each child feel as if they are>>>>> >
    the>>>>> > “only” child in the world at that moment.>>>>> >>>>>> > “You came to see me in the hospital last>>>>> > year!” Santa’s jaw gaped.>>>>> >>>>>> > Tears immediately sprang in his eyes, and he grabbed>>>>> > this little miracle and held her to his chest.>>>>> > “Sarah!” he exclaimed. He scarcely>>>>> > recognized her, for her hair was long and silky>>>>> > and her cheeks were rosy — much different from the>>>>> > little girl he had visited just a year before. He looked>>>>> > over and saw Sarah’s mother and grandmother in>>>>> > the sidelines smiling and waving and wiping their>>>>> > eyes.>>>>> >>>>>> > That was the best Christmas ever for Santa Claus. He>>>>> > had witnessed –and been blessed to be instrumental in>>>>> > bringing about — this miracle of
    hope.>>>>> >>>>>> > This precious little child was healed. Cancer-free.>>>>> > Alive and well.>>>>> > He silently looked up to Heaven and humbly>>>>> > whispered, “Thank you, Father. ‘Tis a>>>>> > very, Merry>>>>> > Christmas!>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>
    >>>>>> >>>>>> > If you believe in miracles you will pass this on…I>>>>> > did!>>>>> >>>>>> > The highest courage is to dare to
    be yourself in the>>>>> > face of adversity. Choosing right over wrong, ethics>>>>> > over convenience, and truth over popularity… These>>>>> > are the choices that measure your life. Travel the path of integrity without looking back, for there is never a wrong time to do the right thing. God Bless You and Have A Good Day

  254. Dakota Says:

    Whoa, is that the Bible Code or something?

  255. 4evaRaider Says:

    Gawd I couldnt see for like 5 minutes after reading that one

  256. Florida Pete Says:

    Dakota Says:
    December 31st, 2009 at 8:29 am
    DHB made $248,000.00 per catch this season. Not bad!

    :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::

    to think … most of us would have done it for half that…

  257. 4evaRaider Says:

    just carrying on the Gippers message….wont do it again

  258. raidertbone Says:

    Wow, that was a cold shot of water in an otherwise fun and frivolous group of Raider rants … kinda puts things in perspective. With that, I’m out — Happy New Year, Raider fans … see you at the Coliseum!

  259. 408RAIDER Says:

    Geebus 4eva WTH?

  260. 4evaRaider Says:

    well 408 its a new year and people think they got it bad all over….NOT

  261. Raider O Says:

    4eva,

    Dude!! put the bong Down.

  262. ohioraider Says:

    And the award for Al Davis Toady of the Year goes to…

  263. Raider O Says:

    Happy New Year Nation, and I hope this new year will be better for all of us. God knows we have earned it after 8 losing seasons!

  264. NorthernD Says:

    # 253

    Someone started drinking early this year…

  265. Dakota Says:

    And last, but not least, over the past 7 seasons Al Davis has paid $677,082,423 in player salaries for 29 victories for an average of $23,347,669.75 per victory.

    Al Davis…GM of the decade!

  266. 408RAIDER Says:

    tiss the season.

  267. Raider O Says:

    I will be happy with 7+ wins next season!

  268. wishbone Says:

    Alex I’ll take Raiders accounts payable for 1,000

  269. 4evaRaider Says:

    Alex….I’ll take “Things Nobody Knows” for a 1000

  270. NorthernD Says:

    TOP TEN
    PLAYS OF THE YEAR

    10) Tommy Kelly drops his drawers
    9)
    8)
    7)
    6)
    5)
    4)
    3)
    2)
    1)

    Carry on…

  271. ohioraider Says:

    $23.3 mil per win. Very efficient.

  272. wishbone Says:

    9)JaFatazz wearing his beanie during the KC game when it’s 90 degrees

  273. Dakota Says:

    8.)JaFatazz showing up to camp with only a beer gut and mowhawk to show for his offseason workout regiment.

  274. Dakota Says:

    7) Tom Cable ordering the players to play patty-cake for the first few days of training camp.

  275. vegas raider Says:

    Where does Tom Cable’s “4 verticals” play-call, on the first play with a struggling QB, brand new RT and on his own goalline fall?

  276. Dakota Says:

    I’d just like to wish you all a Happy New Year!

    And here is one last word on Cable just for the hell of it!

    FIRE THAT FAT WIFE-BEATING BUFFOON!!!!!!

  277. RaiderRockstar Says:

    expecting Brown/Alston/Williams to fill in the open OLB spot was pretty hilarious. so was starting Eugene & Warren on defense.

    starting Heyward-Bey when he clearly wasn’t ready ranks pretty high and 4th rounder Murphy outplaying DHB certainly is a cause for concern.

    Higgins fraidy cat display after getting hammered in Week 1 was pretty disgusting.

    Lawton/Russell/Reece at FB instead of Lorenzo Neal?

    Oren O’Neal on IR asap, but Nick Miller active until week 17?

  278. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Happy New Year Dakota!

  279. RaiderRockstar Says:

    I bet none of the 6 Pro Bowl QB’s get paid 1.75 million (guaranteed) per TD pass like Russell has the past 3 years!

  280. 4evaRaider Says:

    Yeah Happy New Year Dakota and for ever increasing family =)

  281. 4evaRaider Says:

    for YOUR ever increasing,sorry

  282. RaiderRockstar Says:

    stellar season for 4th round pick Slade Norris!

    active for 4 games. 0 tackles

    in comparison …

    Jasper Brinkley (5th round pick) has been active for 15 games. 18 solo tackles and a forced fumble

  283. Stabler76 Says:

    Justin Fargas has made $12,535,840 in 7 seasons tallying 10 total TDs for an average of $1,253,584 per TD.

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
    1.2 Million per touchdown

    I can see numbers being out of whack for a rookie, but this is 7 years and 10 touchdowns.

    Who in the world votes for the Commitment to Excellence award for this guy.

    I joked about one touchdown last year, but 10 TDs in seven years??? Come On

    Fargas : Alex, I’ll take the difference between s**t and Shinola for 1.2 million.

    Alex : Answer : Should a RB run across the imaginery plane of the goal line or into a DT?

    Fargas: Alex, Where is the back of Robert Gallery legs?

  284. NorthernD Says:

    TOP TEN
    PLAYS OF THE YEAR

    10) Tommy Kelly drops his drawers
    9)JaFatazz wearing his beanie during the KC game when it’s 90 degrees
    8)JaFatazz showing up to camp with only a beer gut and mowhawk to show for his offseason workout regiment.
    7) Tom Cable ordering the players to play patty-cake for the first few days of training camp.
    6)Lechler’s pursuit of a PUNTING record as the only thing to look forward to in December.
    5)SeaBass kicks a 61 yarder in freezing weather. (Another tale of special teams glory. Yippeee…)
    4)
    3)
    2)
    1)

    Carry on…

  285. Stabler76 Says:

    4) Aso make Pro Bowl with 4 passes defended

  286. RaiderRockstar Says:

    draft Eugene Monroe & Ron Brace!

    or

    BJ Raji & Max Unger!

    wait, am I too late ???

  287. Plunketthead Says:

    A little Raider Animation.
    Pretty funny stuff on this website.
    Al Davis haters will luv this.
    http://www.bangcartoon.com/2006/busted.htm

  288. NorthernD Says:

    Stabler76 Says:
    December 31st, 2009 at 9:53 am
    Justin Fargas has made $12,535,840 in 7 seasons tallying 10 total TDs for an average of $1,253,584 per TD.

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
    1.2 Million per touchdown

    I can see numbers being out of whack for a rookie, but this is 7 years and 10 touchdowns.

    Who in the world votes for the Commitment to Excellence award for this guy.

    I joked about one touchdown last year, but 10 TDs in seven years??? Come On

    Fargas : Alex, I’ll take the difference between s**t and Shinola for 1.2 million.

    Alex : Answer : Should a RB run across the imaginery plane of the goal line or into a DT?

    Fargas: Alex, Where is the back of Robert Gallery legs?
    ===================================
    That kind of money is insane, but then most NFL salaries are insane.
    But in relative terms, he hasn’t been over-payed for what he’s done. To be on the Raiders for 7 years, and be listed as a starter for some of that time, 12 Mil is not that bad.
    You can probably list 20 players off the top of your head who underperformed for much more money over that time.
    At least he’s given it 100% effort, and made full use of his moderate talent. I’m sure there’s a lot of Raiders you can’t say that about. ( Can you guess which one I’m thinking about???)

  289. vegas raider Says:

    Rockstar,

    Ron Brace?? Didn’t he blow out his knee in week 1.

  290. vegas raider Says:

    What about Matt S, making the top 10 list.

    3rd most sacks of any rookie, 2nd most for sacks and tackles for D-lineman.

    One of the most productive defensive rookies, in the entire draft.

  291. Plunketthead Says:

    The Devil and Al Davis
    http://www.bangcartoon.com/2003/aldevil.htm

  292. NorthernD Says:

    Ron Brace made a name because he was riding on BJ Raji’s coattails at Boston College. Raji is tearing it up in Green Bay, and Brace is…just a body.

  293. Stabler76 Says:

    Northern D
    You can probably list 20 players off the top of your head who underperformed for much more money over that time
    ————————————————
    The money is not the objection, just the TD results.

    I can’t think of one tailback who has scored <10 TDs and remained with the same team for 7 years.

  294. Plunketthead Says:

    Current Raiders with JR
    http://www.bangcartoon.com/2009/selected_shorts.htm

    Those other two were old.

  295. vegas raider Says:

    How many RB’s, even with the most production, stay with the same team for 7 years?

    Not excusing the Fargas role, just RB is such a constant change-over position.

  296. 4evaRaider Says:

    thats all real good stuff there Plunketthead and Happy New Year To You Brother!

  297. Stabler76 Says:

    Vegas..

    My point exactly, constant changeover because under achievers are moved.

  298. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Ron Brace?? Didn’t he blow out his knee in week 1.

    ***

    No, Brace has been active for 8 games this season. just made his 1st start on 12/20 against the Bills

  299. NorthernD Says:

    Stabler76,
    You’re right.
    Some guys have a nose for the end zone and others don’t. Don’t forget though, there have been plenty of backs who were replaced by goal line runners. Barry Sanders, Tiki Barber, etc. They were all replaced near the endzone.
    Fargas tries to go through defenders too much, and that doesn’t work when they bring in the big boys in short yardage.
    I never understood why they didn’t get him to return kicks. He seems like the perfect type to do that, ie expendable.

  300. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Raji is tearing it up in Green Bay, and Brace is…just a body.

    ***

    Raji has been active for 13 games. Has 17 solo tackles & 1 sack

  301. Plunketthead Says:

    The beginning is real funny

    http://www.bangcartoon.com/2009/flawed_execution.htm

  302. Plunketthead Says:

    Thanks 4eva
    May your next year be a good one
    That goes for everyone

  303. NorthernD Says:

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    December 31st, 2009 at 10:26 am
    Raji is tearing it up in Green Bay, and Brace is…just a body.

    ***

    Raji has been active for 13 games. Has 17 solo tackles & 1 sack
    ==============================
    I should have said, ” STARTING to tear it up.”
    He had his coming out game on their monday nighter.

  304. RaiderRockstar Says:

    rookie DT Desmond Bryant (undrafted) has been active 15 games and has 24 solo tackles, 1 forced fumble & 1 fumble recovery

  305. Plunketthead Says:

    Check out splash cartoon week #17
    Al better hire a new webmaster.
    http://www.philadelphiaeagles.com/multimedia/#

  306. Silver-n-Smac Says:

    Hey Fellas,

    We may disagree on a whole lot of shiot (i.e. Russell, Fargas, Cable, etc., etc.), but, regardless of all that:

    Happy New Year to all of you Raider Freaks (like myself).

    And that includes even you, Richocrap. You’re still a dumbass, but, Happy New Year to you too man. Lookin’ forward to a whole new year of talkin’ shiot to you! LOL

  307. M Lonetree Says:

    Dakota,

    while you’re on the $’s per value kick, how many millions has McF been paid per TD?

  308. 4evaRaider Says:

    =)

  309. Plunketthead Says:

    Anyone watching AirForce-Houston

    Back to back kickoff returns to start the third quarter
    AF 31 to 13

  310. Stabler76 Says:

    NorthernD
    Some guys have a nose for the end zone and others don’t. Don’t forget though, there have been plenty of backs who were replaced by goal line runners
    ———————————————–
    I know what you mean. That’s why I appreciated Marcus Allen. Same build (and college) as Fargas, but during his career, Marcus broke the NFL career rushing touchdown record.

    Allen had a tee shirt in his JR year at USC that said “I blocked for the Heisman winner” (Charles White). Allen played fullback that year.
    Marcus Allen won the Heisman as a tailback the next year at USC.

    When Bo Jackson came to the Raiders, Al wanted Marcus to move to fullback (and he did). Allen still broke the career rushing touchdown mark.

    Nose for the goalline— he would just leap over the entire pile at the goal-line.

    There was a game on Monday Nite Football—- OJ Simpson was in the booth, the game was at the LA Collesium and the ball was at the 3 and it was 3rd down.
    OJ says ” You better call LAX air traffic control because there is going to be a UFO on the next play.
    Allen got the handoff and leaped over the O-line, the D-line and the linebackers for the TD.

  311. Richochet Says:

    # raidertbone Says:
    December 31st, 2009 at 4:15 am

    It’s interesting how Cable comments that JaDavis “has all the tools to be a successful quarterback”
    =========================
    That’s “Cable-ese” talk.
    What he means is “He has two arms, and two legs”
    In that regard, he’s dead on.

    Unfortunately Cable left out “But he has no brains, heart, or the nerve” which excludes him from any Wizard of Oz sequels.

  312. mistic1 Says:

    Ricochet, yes cable is your boy! I said he should be fired, you came back keep him for continuity. Then you say cable is not a good coach? You want some syrup for your waffle. Like I said cable stinks out loud and deserves to be fired. Davis is not perfect, far from it, but for the last 30 plus seasons we have had a very nice run. The last seven years have been rough, but I’m sure we will bounce back…. We always do.

  313. mistic1 Says:

    Hopefully Davis pulls the trigger quickly this time like right after this upcoming loss. Even if they win it means nothing, unplug cable now.

  314. raidertbone Says:

    # NorthernD Says:
    December 31st, 2009 at 9:58 am

    TOP TEN
    PLAYS OF THE YEAR

    10) Tommy Kelly drops his drawers
    9)JaFatazz wearing his beanie during the KC game when it’s 90 degrees
    8)JaFatazz showing up to camp with only a beer gut and mowhawk to show for his offseason workout regiment.
    7) Tom Cable ordering the players to play patty-cake for the first few days of training camp.
    6)Lechler’s pursuit of a PUNTING record as the only thing to look forward to in December.
    5)SeaBass kicks a 61 yarder in freezing weather. (Another tale of special teams glory. Yippeee…)
    4)
    3)
    2)
    1)

    Carry on…
    _______________________________________

    How about the pigeon holding down containment on the kickoff vs. the Eagles (”Jim Fassel’s secret weapon”)?

  315. RaiderRockstar Says:

    retain Cable and we win 5-6 games next year

    fire him and get Fassel or Gilbride and we win 4-5 games next year

    what’s the decision Raider Nation?

  316. raidertbone Says:

    How about J.P. Losman coming into a game to quarterback, not even knowing the playbook (with JaDavis on the bench)?

  317. raidertbone Says:

    I say keep Cable for another year — taking shots at his post-game comments never gets old!

  318. RaiderRockstar Says:

    who is Al going to interview to satisfy the rooney rule?

    Jerry Gray, Winston Moss or James Lofton (again) ?

  319. Richochet Says:

    # mistic1 Says:
    December 31st, 2009 at 11:18 am

    Ricochet, yes cable is your boy! I said he should be fired, you came back keep him for continuity. Then you say cable is not a good coach? You want some syrup for your waffle. Like I said cable stinks out loud and deserves to be fired. Davis is not perfect, far from it, but for the last 30 plus seasons we have had a very nice run. The last seven years have been rough, but I’m sure we will bounce back…. We always do.
    ===================
    DUDE..YOU’RE CONFUSED AS HELL.

    I NEVER said keep Cable for continuity..EVER.

    I call Cable a tree stump with a right cross..how the hell is that supporting him? I state the guy actually shows LESS life on the sidelines than Art Shell, and Art Shell looked like he was DEAD on the sidelines..how is that supporting him? I’ve stated the guy has ZERO UPSIDE, and that not one single person here can name even one thing Cable has done that says he should return.

    You’ve been chasing parked cars again. Your muddled brain is jumbling who’s saying what.

    Now..quick..go read..then come back and apologize.
    and bring me a Starbucks.

  320. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Rob Ryan wants to be an NFL Head Coach.

    he has a great relationship with Al Davis.

    he’s probably on thin ice in Cleveland now with Mike Holmgren in charge, despite the 3 game win streak

    Rob the slob could be back as the new puppet HC if Al truly disrespects Cable for his allegations regarding assaulting lapdog Hanson & abusing women

  321. Richochet Says:

    I say bring Losman in, and do like everyone used to do playing sandlot football.

    “You go deep. You go to the grey car and do a hook. You tuck ball under shirt, and run up middle”

    JR will, for the first time, say “HEY..I KNOW THAT PLAY”

  322. Richochet Says:

    Rockstar..you’re an idiot.
    Ryan? Guys a bigger stump than Cable.

    Cable had a vague idea about O lines.

    Ryan has a zero idea about defenses.

    Oh, I see..you’re going for the ultimate blob?
    Stick to making jokes about dead people.

  323. mistic1 Says:

    I don’t think fassel or gilbride will be in look for Davis to bring in a pro offensive coordinator that has never been an NFL hc. Someone that runs a passing scheme. People don’t want to face it but I think trestman is the front runner.

  324. Dude Says:

    Tom Cable hasnt done a damn thing to retain his job. The team is NOT on the upswing. The team does not have an identity and does nothing well. There are no young stars playing well to point to. Theres simply nothing for Tom Cable to hang his hat on to keep the job.

  325. Dude Says:

    How is Trestman the front runner?

  326. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Charlie Frye has experience facing Baltimore. He posted an 80.5 rating with two TDs and two interceptions in a pair of starts against the Ravens with Cleveland in 2006.

    Baltimore’s banged-up secondary is without cornerbacks Fabian Washington and Ladarius Webb – both lost for the season – and All-Pro safety Ed Reed hasn’t played since Nov. 29 with a slight tear in his groin.

    Reed is listed as a game-time decision but isn’t expected to play.

    In Harbaugh’s two seasons at the helm, Baltimore hasn’t lost to a sub-.500 team. That included a 29-10 home victory over Oakland on Oct. 26, 2008, in which Rice had 155 all-purpose yards

    -BRETT HUSTON (AP STATS Writer)

  327. RaiderRockstar Says:

    hey there Richochet. how are you doing today?

  328. Richochet Says:

    4eva? Dude..are you really this dumb?
    It’s not just that you post that anything but truncated message at #253, but it never occurred to you to CUT OUT ALL OF THE MUMBO JUMBO ON THE TITLE LINES?

    Geez..lol..you even put YOUR email address along with others email addresses?

    You aren’t the sharpest tack in the box, are you?

  329. RaiderRockstar Says:

    JR will, for the first time, say “HEY..I KNOW THAT PLAY”

    ***

    are you sure about that?

    I think the terminology on offense has changed since Russell hit the bench.

    single back: twinkie
    I form: hoho
    shotgun: ding dong
    split backs: fiddle faddle
    goal-line: snickers

    etc etc etc

  330. Richochet Says:

    Raiderrockhead..doing great, thanks.

    Hey..tomorrows the anniversary of the guy who got killed at BART..thought maybe you wanted to make a joke about that, like you did the NFL player who died?

    Whatever works for ya..go for it.

  331. Richochet Says:

    I SEE YOU AVOIDED THE FOLLOWING, MYSTIC.
    In other words, as before, posting as priest, you have no credibility.
    Gosh..what were the chances?

    ———————————————–
    # mistic1 Says:
    December 31st, 2009 at 11:18 am

    Ricochet, yes cable is your boy! I said he should be fired, you came back keep him for continuity. Then you say cable is not a good coach? You want some syrup for your waffle. Like I said cable stinks out loud and deserves to be fired. Davis is not perfect, far from it, but for the last 30 plus seasons we have had a very nice run. The last seven years have been rough, but I’m sure we will bounce back…. We always do.
    ===================
    DUDE..YOU’RE CONFUSED AS HELL.

    I NEVER said keep Cable for continuity..EVER.

    I call Cable a tree stump with a right cross..how the hell is that supporting him? I state the guy actually shows LESS life on the sidelines than Art Shell, and Art Shell looked like he was DEAD on the sidelines..how is that supporting him? I’ve stated the guy has ZERO UPSIDE, and that not one single person here can name even one thing Cable has done that says he should return.

    You’ve been chasing parked cars again. Your muddled brain is jumbling who’s saying what.

    Now..quick..go read..then come back and apologize.
    and bring me a Starbucks.

  332. RaiderRockstar Says:

    “Our goal is to be spoiler this week and come in and put the Ravens out of the playoffs. Since we can’t get in, we don’t want them to get in either,” Pro Bowl cornerback Nnamdi Asomugha said. “You want to end the season with a win. You want to have a little bit of momentum going into the next year. You want to have something to build off of. You don’t want to finish the last two games with two losses. So I think guys have a lot of pride and want to go out and win a game.”

    “We got something to play for, too,” defensive lineman Richard Seymour said. “Obviously we’re not going to the playoffs. But we’re playing for all these guys in this locker room, and we’re not just going to go out there and say, hey, ‘Here’s the game, go ahead and go to the playoffs.’ That isn’t the case. I think if you feel that way, you shouldn’t play.”

    “They’re going to be coming in here fighting and scratching and doing everything they can to get their spot because they have to win to do that,” Cable said. “For us it’s exciting, because we have our own goals: winning the sixth game and trying to improve that way; winning the last game of the year; trying to go into the offseason feeling positive about yourselves.

    “Also, you get some joy out of trying to knock them out of the playoffs. That’s what this game is about and that’s the way we should approach it.”

  333. raidertbone Says:

    # RaiderRockstar Says:
    December 31st, 2009 at 11:46 am

    JR will, for the first time, say “HEY..I KNOW THAT PLAY”

    ***

    are you sure about that?

    I think the terminology on offense has changed since Russell hit the bench.

    single back: twinkie
    I form: hoho
    shotgun: ding dong
    split backs: fiddle faddle
    goal-line: snickers

    etc etc etc
    _______________________________-

    His contract: Whopper
    His talent: Lemonheads
    His work ethic: Zero

  334. RaiderRockstar Says:

    those quotes from Asomugha, Seymour & Cable were courtesy of:

    JOSH DUBOW, AP Sports Writer

  335. mistic1 Says:

    My apologies ricochet, I mixed you up with one of the other people that make no sense. You responded to my post when I said cable had to go. So it seems you agree with me on that point. But then again any fool would.

  336. MidwestSilvernBlack Says:

    Been a long time since I’ve commented on here but one simple statistic I’ve noticed is, and believe me I was a JR supporter until this year, that in the games where JR has played, only 2/11 games has he thrown for more than 150 yards. Comparatively, in 5/6 games since he was benched there have been more than 150 yards passing. Scoring doesn’t occur without positive yardage.

    Your move JR, admit your flaws and go study with Vince Young in the offseason or call up Joey Harrington and David Carr (who has actually performed better than you) and learn what it feels like to become a permanent non-starter.

  337. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Richochet: why are you encouraging posters to make jokes about the deceased?

    I don’t understand.

  338. raidertbone Says:

    Rockstar:
    If you’re not careful, you will soon graduate to either “peanut” or “Gomer”!

  339. Richochet Says:

    Another reason Cable is “used, abused, and confused”..twice in recent weeks Cable has discounted raider penalties as not being indicative of the the kind of team the raiders are..Raiders are TWO PENALTIES behind Green Bay for most in the NFL. One game to play.

    Good teams win in spite of penalties.

    Bad teams who lead the league in penalties hold records of “Worst team of the Decade” along with “Most consecutive double digit loss seasons” along with “Most HC’s in a single decade” along with “Most negative comments directed at a team by ex-players” along with ‘Most blackouts of any team in last 15 years’…along with…”owner of the last functioning overhead projector found OUTSIDE of a high school”…..

    the list goes on :)

  340. RaiderRockstar Says:

    If you’re not careful, you will soon graduate to either “peanut” or “Gomer”!

    ***

    LOL. “rockhead” instead of rockstar isn’t really an insult, is it? and “IDIOT” is pretty mild compared to what he calls most people on here who think for themselves …

  341. Richochet Says:

    # RaiderRockstar Says:
    December 31st, 2009 at 11:57 am

    Richochet: why are you encouraging posters to make jokes about the deceased?

    I don’t understand.
    ==================
    ahhh..been celebrating the new year early, I see.

    So..what you’re saying is you want me to paste your comments..actually..your tacky pathetic tasteless sorry weak joke you made about Chris Henry’s fiancee?

    You sure?

  342. RaiderRockstar Says:

    what a terrible decade it’s been for Raider fans.

    last decade was pretty bad too.

    Gruden & Gannon have to be laughing right now. Gruden was traded away and Gannon has been banned from Raider HQ. the two guys responsible for any recent success we’ve had. they’ve both got cushy jobs in the booth and get to watch this circus freak show from a distance

  343. Richochet Says:

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    December 31st, 2009 at 12:00 pm

    If you’re not careful, you will soon graduate to either “peanut” or “Gomer”!

    ***

    LOL. “rockhead” instead of rockstar isn’t really an insult, is it? and “IDIOT” is pretty mild compared to what he calls most people on here who think for themselves
    ================
    LMFAO..dude..you will NEVER be accused of ‘thinking for yourself’..and you sure as hell have never earned that label.

    But hey..how sweet are you that you think that of yourself?
    Aren’t you just precious?

  344. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Richochet: copy & paste away

    you won’t hurt my feelings. do whatever makes you happy man

    why are you talking about Losman & Russell playing against the Ravens? Frye has already been named the starting Qb this week.

    you predict he’ll stink and get benched or get injured ???

  345. mistic1 Says:

    No. 21 great player not much of a leader. Hopefully branch will continue to grow into that role, by the way branch was a widley panned Davis pick, I guess the old man still has a little left in the tank after all.

  346. RaiderRockstar Says:

    now i’m sweet & precious? LOL

    2 insults & 2 compliments. you’ve been redeemed Ricky!

    way to go man. I knew you had it in you. Just like the Grinch who stole Christmas

  347. RaiderRockstar Says:

    time to get some work done. later fellas!

  348. Richochet Says:

    # RaiderRockstar Says:
    December 31st, 2009 at 12:04 pm

    what a terrible decade it’s been for Raider fans.

    last decade was pretty bad too.

    Gruden & Gannon have to be laughing right now.
    =========================================
    Isn’t every single player who got out of RaiderHell laughing?
    Hasn’t many of them gone public about how happy they are they got out?
    From Washington, to Garner, to Rice, to Brown, to Sapp, to Simms, to Moss, to Gannon, to Hall, to Wilson, to Newberry….

    be easier to list the players who left the Raiders who were happy playing there..

    1.

    Ok, I give up..can’t think of a single one in the last decade..can anyone?

  349. Richochet Says:

    RaiderRockRummy..you need to read, comprehend, then post.

    “why are you talking about Losman & Russell playing against the Ravens? Frye has already been named the starting Qb this week.”

    Comment was made about inserting Losman, ahead of Russell, even if he didn’t know the playbook, in the even Frye went down.

    I posted how sandlot plays trumped Russell’s vast knowledge of the playbook.

  350. mistic1 Says:

    I feel trestman is the best fit for 2010, this is why I used the term front runner. He has worked, had success here, runs a scheme Davis loves, and fits the Davis profile for coaches. Who else will be here for an interview this off season, that has so many positives?

  351. KoolKell Says:

    Sure, Trestman is weak, a perfect Davis fit.

  352. 4evaRaider Says:

    PUUUU-LEEEEEESE stop Rockstar =)
    *******************************************RaiderRockstar Says:
    December 31st, 2009 at 11:33 am
    Rob Ryan wants to be an NFL Head Coach.

    he has a great relationship with Al Davis.

    he’s probably on thin ice in Cleveland now with Mike Holmgren in charge, despite the 3 game win streak

    Rob the slob could be back as the new puppet HC if Al truly disrespects Cable for his allegations regarding assaulting lapdog Hanson & abusing women

  353. ohioraider Says:

    And the award for Al Davis Toady of the Year (2009) goes to…

    Mistic1

    For His Misguided but Unyielding Loyalty to Ye Olde Megalomaniac

    Congratulations!

  354. ohioraider Says:

    Great links, Plunketthead!

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