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The run stops with Ray

By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Wednesday, December 30th, 2009 at 3:59 pm in Oakland Raiders.

News, notes, quotes and observations Wednesday from the Raiders’ practice, open locker room session as they prepare to host the Baltimore Ravens:

– We’ll see how much the Raiders run the ball against Baltimore or even attempt to run.

In the brief Ravens-Raiders history, which corresponds to Ray Lewis’ first year of the league in 1996, Oakland has broken 100 yards exactly once _ getting 111 yards on 28 carries in a 13-10 loss in 1998.

The leading rusher that day was Napoleon Kaufman, who had 79 yards on 16 carries.

In the other five meetings, including the AFC championship game following the 2000 season, the Raiders have run into a wall.

Last season, Justin Fargas had 11 carries for 22 yards and the Raiders had 47 yards on 18 carries in a 29-10 loss. In 2006, Lamont Jordan rushed for 35 yards on 19 carries and the Raiders had 39 on 26 attempts.

In Oakland’s only win over Baltimore, a 20-12 win at the Coliseum in 2003, the Raiders needed 31 carries to gain 79 yards.

The 2000 Raiders led the NFL in rushing, averaging 154.4 yards per game, and ran for 24 yards on 17 carries. Tyrone Wheatley had seven yards on 12 rushes.

Oakland’s first-ever game against Baltimore in the 1996 season opener brought 60 yards on 21 attempts, with Harvey Williams gaining 39 yards on 13 carries.

In the six games, the Raiders have 330 yards on 142 carries, averaging 2.3 yards per carry. Unable to control the line of scrimmage, the Ravens have 22 sacks in those games.

To be fair, the Ravens have done this to a lot of teams _ not just the Raiders.

“You’ve got a bunch of good players, and they have for quite a while now,’’ Raiders coach Tom Cable said. “But (Lewis) definitely is the key to the whole thing. And good players on the line of scrimmage. Two outstanding outside ’backers. A nose guard. Defensive ends. And safeties who know how to fit that box.

“It’s kind of been who they are – stop the run first and we’ll just adjust everything else.”

Lewis told Bay Area reporters by conference call “We get up for true challenges and the Raiders, every time we’ve seen ‘em, have always had some type of respect or some type of thing that they’re really chasing, and right now I think they’re doing a great job using all three running backs.”

– Tight end Zach Miller had a career high nine receptions for 111 yards after missing a week because of concussion symptoms and was pleasantly surprised to have an immediate rapport with quarterback Charlie Frye.

“Charlie did a good job of finding me a lot of times. He really trusted me,’’ Miller said. “We haven’t been working together that much this season, but we were pretty in tune on Sunday.’’

Miller said the unsportsmanlike penalty he got for taunting an opponent (a dubious flag to say the least) was his first at any level.

“I’m the next (Jeremy) Shockey,’’ Miller said.

– -Here’s how Cable assessed Heyward-Bey’s status for Sunday: “We’ll see as we go. Hopefully no setback. We’ll see tomorrow in terms of how today went and how he recovers. But he looked fine today and he’ll go in there and be part of the mix and then, look forward, he would go in as a backup.’’

– If the Raiders knock out the Ravens, it won’t be because they were overlooked. Baltimore hasn’t lost to a team with a losing record this year and all their losses in 2008 came against playoff teams.

“We don’t categorize the teams that we play,’’ Harbaugh said. “We’re disappointed with the teams we haven’t beat. We’re playing a really, really good team, a team that’s capable and talented and that’s how we’re approaching it.’’

– Looks like Stanford coach Jim Harbaugh, a former Raiders assistant long-rumored to be a Raiders head coaching candidate, will be on the sidelines at the Coliseum sooner rather than later.

“I’m pretty sure he’s coming to the game,’’ John Harbaugh said. “He and my dad and some other family they’re coming back from the Sun Bowl I think right around that time.’’

Younger brother Jim joined the Ravens on the sideline during a 27-14 loss in Green Bay and was more emotional and demonstrative than the head coach.

“We’ll let him on the sideline. Hopefully he’ll stay off the field this time,’’ John Harbaugh said. “All I know is I looked around and he was 15 yards on the field.’’

– The Raiders’ decision to wait around for Nick Miller to get healthy was costly in terms of kickoff returns. Oakland is ranked dead last in kickoff return average at 22.9 yards and has been stopped 18 times inside the 20 _ the most in the NFL.

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  • 4evaRaider

    I’m working on it Hwnrdr Bro….(a buzzzzzzzzzzz that is)

  • Stabler76

    So, what is the QB order?

    Frye
    Russel
    Losman
    Lechler ?

    This is the Ravens we are playing.

    Hoping the Oakland D can pick off Flacco a couple times and score.

  • raidertbone

    Anybody seen our new secret weapon on special teams?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a3bn_CH1ob8&NR=1
    “Pigeon stars for the Raiders”

  • http://media-2.web.britannica.com/eb-media/63/60563-004-52A399D4.jpg Dakota

    With Sunday’s 35-7 beat down of the Jaguars, the Patriots cemented their spot—alongside the Chargers, Colts and Bengals—in the 2009 NFL playoffs.

    But the rest of the AFC picture? That’s about as complicated a Bill Belichick defensive scheme, with the Ravens, Jets, Broncos, Steelers, Texans, Jaguars and Dolphins all still mathematically alive for one of the final two spots.

    Here’s a cheat sheet to Sunday’s impending chaos:

    1. The Jets and Ravens control their own destiny.

    If the Ravens win at Oakland, and the J-E-T-S take down the Bengals on Sunday night at the Meadowlands, then Baltimore and the Jets are the two AFC Wildcards.

    Baltimore has to feel pretty good about drawing the Raiders in this must-win scenario (and have already been installed as an early 10-point favorite) but Oakland hasn’t been awful at home this year—racking up quality Ws against both the Eagles and Bengals.

    As for the Jets, the nature of their game against the Bengals just might hinge on what happens earlier that afternoon with the Patriots. If New England beats the Texans (Houston’s an early 7-point favorite), then the Pats clinch the third seed in the AFC, meaning that the Bengals will have nothing to play for—this paves the way for the Jets second straight gift-wrapped W.

    Although it remains to be seen, either way, how far Cincy will be willing to go to win this one.

    2. The Broncos, Steelers and Texans need some help.

    There are 10, count them, 10 different Sunday scenarios that will send Josh McDaniels’ Broncos to the playoffs:

    1) Win (vs. KC) + NYJ loss or tie + BAL loss or tie
    2) Win + NYJ loss or tie + PIT loss or tie
    3) Win + NYJ loss or tie + HOU win
    4) Win + BAL loss or tie + PIT loss or tie
    5) Win + BAL loss or tie + HOU win
    6) PIT loss + BAL loss + HOU loss + JAC loss
    7) PIT loss + BAL loss + HOU loss + NYJ loss
    8) PIT loss + BAL loss + JAC loss + NYJ loss
    9) PIT loss + HOU loss + JAC loss + NYJ loss
    10) MIA loss or tie + NYJ loss + BAL loss + HOU loss + JAC loss or tie

    The Steelers and Texans can only make it if one of three separate storylines play out.

    Pittsburgh clinches a playoff spot with:

    1) Win (@ MIA) + HOU loss or tie + NYJ loss or tie
    2) Win + HOU loss or tie + BAL loss or tie
    3) Win + NYJ loss or tie + BAL loss or tie + DEN loss or tie

    Houston clinches a playoff spot with:

    1) Win (vs. NE) + NYJ loss or tie + BAL loss or tie
    2) Win + NYJ loss or tie + DEN loss or tie
    3) Win + BAL loss or tie + DEN loss or tie

    3. The Dolphins and Jaguars need a modern day miracle.

    Yeah, the Fins and Jags are still alive, but they’re on life support, and it’s only a matter of time before the NFL Gods pull the plug.

    That either of these teams is playing after this week is highly unlikely, but just for fun, here’s how it can happen.

    Jacksonville clinches a playoff spot with:

    1) JAC win + PIT loss + BAL loss + DEN loss + HOU loss
    2) JAC win + PIT loss + BAL loss + DEN loss + NYJ loss
    3) JAC win + PIT loss + BAL loss + HOU loss + NYJ loss
    4) JAC win + PIT loss + DEN loss + HOU loss + NYJ loss
    5) JAC win + NYJ loss + DEN loss + HOU loss + BAL loss

    Miami clinches a playoff spot with a win + NYJ loss + BAL loss + HOU loss + JAC loss or tie.

    But that’s all.

    http://www.csnne.com/pages/landing?Possible-AFC-playoff-scenarios=1&blockID=108366&feedID=3352

  • Florida Pete

    i think we are in deep schit this weekend…

    no o-line…

    no quarterback…

    no offense…

    it doesn’t matter what the over-under is…

    take the under…

    the raiders will… for the first time in NFL history…

    wind up with a negative score…

    final: Ravens 10… Raiders -6…

  • http://media-2.web.britannica.com/eb-media/63/60563-004-52A399D4.jpg Dakota

    Pete, I think they should change the safety rule…it should no longer be two points for the other team, it should be negative two points for the team tackled in their own end zone…then we might get your 10 to -6 score this weekend in Oakland.

  • Florida Pete

    Dakota Says:
    December 31st, 2009 at 8:04 am
    Pete, I think they should change the safety rule…it should no longer be two points for the other team, it should be negative two points for the team tackled in their own end zone…then we might get your 10 to -6 score this weekend in Oakland.

    :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::

    uh… you do know that i was kidding, yes???

  • garcia

    One consolation to the Chargers making the Super Bowl, Seabass goes to the Pro Bowl as an alternate.

  • iriebuff

    Not sure about the under…Rice/McGahee, et al may run rampent, though would agree we’ll be hard pressed to score any points. Have to say like the Ravens giving our points.

  • raidertbone

    # garcia Says:
    December 31st, 2009 at 8:09 am

    One consolation to the Chargers making the Super Bowl, Seabass goes to the Pro Bowl as an alternate.
    ________________________________

    Then, he can attempt an 85 yard field goal, toward the end of the first half!

  • iriebuff

    just don’t see Satele/Morris holding the interior vs. Ngata, let alone the edges vs. Suggs/Johnson.

    BTW no one talks about it much but Super Mario is not good at pass protection, solid in the run game though…

  • http://media-2.web.britannica.com/eb-media/63/60563-004-52A399D4.jpg Dakota

    You better be!!!!!! Now shape up or ship out!!!!!

  • raidertbone

    You laughed; therefore, you MUST be penalized 15 yards for unsportsmanlike conduct. If you do it again, we’ll have to lock you in an electrical closet!

  • http://media-2.web.britannica.com/eb-media/63/60563-004-52A399D4.jpg Dakota

    A lot of ball dropping tonight…I wonder if this is DHB’s favorite holiday?

  • raidertbone

    # Dakota Says:
    December 31st, 2009 at 8:17 am

    A lot of ball dropping tonight…I wonder if this is DHB’s favorite holiday?
    ____________________________________

    Isn’t he sponsoring one of these events?

  • http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo249/the408RAIDER/749px-I-420svg.png 408RAIDER

    Bring On the ravens!

  • 4evaRaider

    COOOOOL

    Dakota is on a ROLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL

  • 4evaRaider

    Well well well…..

    If it isnt The KING of FF!!!!

  • http://media-2.web.britannica.com/eb-media/63/60563-004-52A399D4.jpg Dakota

    DHB made $248,000.00 per catch this season. Not bad!

  • raidertbone

    Okay, the ultimate penalty: if the 15 yarder and the electrical closet don’t work, maybe the offender should be forced to listen to an entire 45 minutes of Norv Turner — THAT should be enough to wipe out the laughter!

  • hwnrdr

    4Eva…Hey…its always good to get your buzz on (early)…I know as soon as I get home, I will too!!!

  • http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo249/the408RAIDER/749px-I-420svg.png 408RAIDER

    yes?…

  • los raiders de don rober

    McFadden is gonna run rampant at this soft defense! DHB is gonna catch a ton of balls across the midlle and break the for long gains. Cable is gonna pimp slap the whole cheerleading section…any other new year wishes?

  • http://media-2.web.britannica.com/eb-media/63/60563-004-52A399D4.jpg Dakota

    Justin Fargas has made $12,535,840 in 7 seasons tallying 10 total TDs for an average of $1,253,584 per TD.

  • raidertbone

    And Tommy Kelly has made $7 million every time he loses his pants during a game!

  • RaiderRockstar

    A lot of ball dropping tonight…I wonder if this is DHB’s favorite holiday?

    ***

    Phillip Rivers = still waiting for balls to drop

  • http://media-2.web.britannica.com/eb-media/63/60563-004-52A399D4.jpg Dakota

    In 7 seasons Sam Williams has made a total of $4,139,600 for an average of 13.4 solo tackles a year.

  • 4evaRaider

    I woulda bet my bottom dollar on that Hwnrdr!!!!!!!!

  • los raiders de don rober

    In 7 seasons Sam Williams has made a total of $4,139,600 for an average of 13.4 solo tackles a year.
    ____________________________________________________

    Yeah, but he looks damn good getting off the bus!

  • http://media-2.web.britannica.com/eb-media/63/60563-004-52A399D4.jpg Dakota

    In two years Al has paid Javon Walker $14,003,560 for 15 catches.

  • 4evaRaider

    lol

  • NorthernD

    Greyson Gunheim and DHB back for the game.
    Ravens won’t even show up now.

    Can’t wait for the fourth quarter when DHB catches a 12 yard out when the team is down by 20.
    Gunheim can pick up another sack like last year, and everyone can project that out to 16 sacks over a full season.

  • RaiderRockstar

    got anything on Russell or Warren?

  • 4evaRaider

    how are ya 408?

  • RaiderRockstar

    i’ll take Greyson Gunheim over Jay Richardson or William Joseph!

  • http://atm Raider O

    1- Fire Cable!
    2- hire Fassel, Harbaugh, or Gilbride!
    3- Draft a DT or MLB in the 1st.
    4- Draft Carlos Dunlap if he was available at 2.
    5- Draft a RT & RG.
    6- Draft or sign a blocking FB!
    7- add another CB!
    8- add depth to both lines!
    9- Cut Walker, Fargas, Warren, Cooper, green, and TK if he doesn’t restructure his contract.
    10- We need to add a few players in FA, but we can’t g crazy!

  • NorthernD

    Dakota,
    Since you’re on the math kick, try and figure out how much Al has made over years.
    You’d probably freak out.

  • http://media-2.web.britannica.com/eb-media/63/60563-004-52A399D4.jpg Dakota

    Over the past two seasons Al has paid Tommy Kelly $20,980,040 for 67 solo tackles and 5.5 sacks and one priceless trouser dropping moment.

  • 4evaRaider

    lmaoooooooooooooooooooooooooo

  • raidertbone

    Just curious — How much did JaDavis get paid for his last Burger King commercial?

  • http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo249/the408RAIDER/749px-I-420svg.png 408RAIDER

    Raiders (7): linebacker Jon Alston, tackle Khalif Barnes, linebacker Ricky Brown, quarterback Charlie Frye, linebacker Thomas Howard, linebacker Kirk Morrison, cornerback Stanford Routt.<——- restricted free agents

  • http://media-2.web.britannica.com/eb-media/63/60563-004-52A399D4.jpg Dakota

    Over the past three seasons Al has paid Cornell Green $4,424,080 for 20 QB killer sacks allowed, 25 drive killing penalties, and one hissy fit at the fat QB.

  • hwnrdr

    Well…believe it or not…its time to do some work…
    HAPPY NEW YEAR NATION!!! Be safe, but have a good time!
    To all who will be there on Sunday…see you there!!!

  • RaiderRockstar

    Russell signed a six-year contract worth up to $68 million, with $31.5 million guaranteed

    so far we have 18 TD passes in 3 seasons…

  • http://media-2.web.britannica.com/eb-media/63/60563-004-52A399D4.jpg Dakota

    Jon Condo has made $1,358,400 in his career for those beautiful snaps.

  • RaiderRockstar

    Happy New Year Hwnrdr !!!

  • raidertbone

    # Dakota Says:
    December 31st, 2009 at 8:52 am

    Over the past three seasons Al has paid Cornell Green $4,424,080 for 20 QB killer sacks allowed, 25 drive killing penalties, and one hissy fit at the fat QB.
    __________________________________________

    Dakota – you go! You should take all these facts, wrap them up and send them to Alex Trabek. They could make a new category: “Overpaid Underachievers”

  • NorthernD

    408RAIDER Says:
    December 31st, 2009 at 8:52 am
    Raiders (7): linebacker Jon Alston, tackle Khalif Barnes, linebacker Ricky Brown, quarterback Charlie Frye, linebacker Thomas Howard, linebacker Kirk Morrison, cornerback Stanford Routt.<——- restricted free agents
    ==================
    Doubt they offer contracts to any of them. Routt??

  • wishbone

    A few questions for the old, senile jackass AD.

    1)Why are you paying Javon Walker 5 mil to not play?
    2)Why do you wait till week 16 to put Nick Miller on IR?
    3)If you are keeping JR why are you not playing him?
    4)Why have you continued to keep #52 at MLB yet being at the bottom of the NFL in run defense every year?
    5)Why don’t you do all Raider fans a favor and just fu*king die?

  • RaiderRockstar

    31.5 million guaranteed?

    that means if we cut him this offseason we’ll have paid JaWalrus 1.75 million for each TD pass