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The run stops with Ray

By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Wednesday, December 30th, 2009 at 3:59 pm in Oakland Raiders.

News, notes, quotes and observations Wednesday from the Raiders’ practice, open locker room session as they prepare to host the Baltimore Ravens:

– We’ll see how much the Raiders run the ball against Baltimore or even attempt to run.

In the brief Ravens-Raiders history, which corresponds to Ray Lewis’ first year of the league in 1996, Oakland has broken 100 yards exactly once _ getting 111 yards on 28 carries in a 13-10 loss in 1998.

The leading rusher that day was Napoleon Kaufman, who had 79 yards on 16 carries.

In the other five meetings, including the AFC championship game following the 2000 season, the Raiders have run into a wall.

Last season, Justin Fargas had 11 carries for 22 yards and the Raiders had 47 yards on 18 carries in a 29-10 loss. In 2006, Lamont Jordan rushed for 35 yards on 19 carries and the Raiders had 39 on 26 attempts.

In Oakland’s only win over Baltimore, a 20-12 win at the Coliseum in 2003, the Raiders needed 31 carries to gain 79 yards.

The 2000 Raiders led the NFL in rushing, averaging 154.4 yards per game, and ran for 24 yards on 17 carries. Tyrone Wheatley had seven yards on 12 rushes.

Oakland’s first-ever game against Baltimore in the 1996 season opener brought 60 yards on 21 attempts, with Harvey Williams gaining 39 yards on 13 carries.

In the six games, the Raiders have 330 yards on 142 carries, averaging 2.3 yards per carry. Unable to control the line of scrimmage, the Ravens have 22 sacks in those games.

To be fair, the Ravens have done this to a lot of teams _ not just the Raiders.

“You’ve got a bunch of good players, and they have for quite a while now,’’ Raiders coach Tom Cable said. “But (Lewis) definitely is the key to the whole thing. And good players on the line of scrimmage. Two outstanding outside ’backers. A nose guard. Defensive ends. And safeties who know how to fit that box.

“It’s kind of been who they are – stop the run first and we’ll just adjust everything else.”

Lewis told Bay Area reporters by conference call “We get up for true challenges and the Raiders, every time we’ve seen ‘em, have always had some type of respect or some type of thing that they’re really chasing, and right now I think they’re doing a great job using all three running backs.”

– Tight end Zach Miller had a career high nine receptions for 111 yards after missing a week because of concussion symptoms and was pleasantly surprised to have an immediate rapport with quarterback Charlie Frye.

“Charlie did a good job of finding me a lot of times. He really trusted me,’’ Miller said. “We haven’t been working together that much this season, but we were pretty in tune on Sunday.’’

Miller said the unsportsmanlike penalty he got for taunting an opponent (a dubious flag to say the least) was his first at any level.

“I’m the next (Jeremy) Shockey,’’ Miller said.

– -Here’s how Cable assessed Heyward-Bey’s status for Sunday: “We’ll see as we go. Hopefully no setback. We’ll see tomorrow in terms of how today went and how he recovers. But he looked fine today and he’ll go in there and be part of the mix and then, look forward, he would go in as a backup.’’

– If the Raiders knock out the Ravens, it won’t be because they were overlooked. Baltimore hasn’t lost to a team with a losing record this year and all their losses in 2008 came against playoff teams.

“We don’t categorize the teams that we play,’’ Harbaugh said. “We’re disappointed with the teams we haven’t beat. We’re playing a really, really good team, a team that’s capable and talented and that’s how we’re approaching it.’’

– Looks like Stanford coach Jim Harbaugh, a former Raiders assistant long-rumored to be a Raiders head coaching candidate, will be on the sidelines at the Coliseum sooner rather than later.

“I’m pretty sure he’s coming to the game,’’ John Harbaugh said. “He and my dad and some other family they’re coming back from the Sun Bowl I think right around that time.’’

Younger brother Jim joined the Ravens on the sideline during a 27-14 loss in Green Bay and was more emotional and demonstrative than the head coach.

“We’ll let him on the sideline. Hopefully he’ll stay off the field this time,’’ John Harbaugh said. “All I know is I looked around and he was 15 yards on the field.’’

– The Raiders’ decision to wait around for Nick Miller to get healthy was costly in terms of kickoff returns. Oakland is ranked dead last in kickoff return average at 22.9 yards and has been stopped 18 times inside the 20 _ the most in the NFL.

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  • NorthernD

    raidertbone Says:
    December 31st, 2009 at 8:54 am
    # Dakota Says:
    December 31st, 2009 at 8:52 am

    Over the past three seasons Al has paid Cornell Green $4,424,080 for 20 QB killer sacks allowed, 25 drive killing penalties, and one hissy fit at the fat QB.
    __________________________________________

    Dakota – you go! You should take all these facts, wrap them up and send them to Alex Trabek. They could make a new category: “Overpaid Underachievers”
    ======================================
    I’ll take ” Raider Faders ” for 400 Alex…

  • raidertbone

    #

    Happy New Year Hwnrdr !!!
    # raidertbone Says:
    December 31st, 2009 at 8:54 am

    # Dakota Says:
    December 31st, 2009 at 8:52 am

    Over the past three seasons Al has paid Cornell Green $4,424,080 for 20 QB killer sacks allowed, 25 drive killing penalties, and one hissy fit at the fat QB.
    __________________________________________

    Dakota – you go! You should take all these facts, wrap them up and send them to Alex Trabek. They could make a new category: “Overpaid Underachievers”
    _________________________________

    … or Budweiser’s “real men of genius”: “Here’s to you, Mr. Jump Offsides, Destroy Your Quarterback, Twist Your Ankle and Throw a Hissyfit Guy”!

  • 4evaRaider

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    From: VictorSubject: [Fwd: Fw: A Santa Story (Have hanky handy)]

    i might add : have a large hanky handy and i mean a large one. or a box of PUFFS tissues..
    what a beautiful ending……

    ——– Original Message ——–
    Subject: Fw: A Santa Story (Have hanky handy)
    Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 17:13:03 -0600
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    Subject: Fw: A Santa Story (Have hanky handy)

    A Santa Story – Awesome! (Have hanky handy
    A Santa Story – Awesome!> >>>>> > Three years ago, a little boy and his grandmother came to see>>>>> > Santa at Mayfair Mall in Wisconsin . The child climbed up on>>>>> > his lap, holding a picture of a little girl.>>>>> >>>>>> > “Who is this?” asked Santa, smiling,>>>>> > “Your friend? Your sister?”>>>>> >>>>>> > “Yes, Santa,” he replied. “My sister,>>>>> > Sarah, who is very sick,” he said sadly.>>>>> >>>>>> > Santa glanced over at the grandmother who was waiting>>>>> > nearby, and saw her dabbing her eyes with a tissue.>>>>> >>>>>> > “She wanted to come with
    me to see you, oh, so>>>>> > very much, Santa!” the child exclaimed. “She>>>>> > misses you,” he added softly.>>>>> >>>>>> > Santa tried to be cheerful and encouraged a smile to>>>>> > the boy’s face, asking him what he wanted>>>>> > Santa to bring him>>>>> > for Christmas. When they finished their visit, the>>>>> > Grandmother came over to help the child off his lap,>>>>> > and started to say
    something to Santa, but halted.>>>>> >>>>>> > “What is it?” Santa asked warmly.>>>>> >>>>>> > “Well, I know it’s really too much to ask>>>>> > you, Santa, but .” the old>>>>> > woman began, shooing her grandson over to one of>>>>> > Santa’s elves to collect the little gift which>>>>> > Santa gave all his young visitors. “The girl in>>>>> > the photograph… my granddaughter well, you see
    …>>>>> > she has leukemia and isn’t expected to make it even>>>>> > through the holidays,” she said>>>>> > through tear-filled eyes. “Is there any way, Santa>>>>> > . any possible way that you could come see Sarah?>>>>> > That’s all she’s asked for, for Christmas, is>>>>> > to see Santa.”>>>>> >>>>>> > Santa blinked and swallowed hard and told the woman>>>>> > to leave information with his elves
    as to where Sarah>>>>> > was, and he would see what he could>>>>> > do.>>>>> >>>>>> > Santa thought of little else the rest of that>>>>> > afternoon. He knew what he had to do. “What if it>>>>> > were MY child lying in that hospital bed,>>>>> > dying,” he thought with a sinking heart,>>>>> > “this is the least I can do.”>>>>> >>>>>> > When Santa finished visiting with all the boys and>>>>> > girls that evening, he retrieved from his helper the>>>>> > name of the hospital where Sarah was staying.>>>>> >>>>>> >
    He asked the assistant location manager how to get to>>>>> > Children’s Hospital.>>>>> >>>>>> > “Why?” Rick asked, with a puzzled look on>>>>> > his face.>>>>> >>>>>> > Santa relayed to him the conversation with>>>>> > Sarah’s grandmother earlier that day.>>>>> > “C’mon…. I’ll take you there,” Rick said>>>>> > softly.>>>>> >>>>>> > Rick drove them to the hospital and came inside with>>>>> > Santa. They found out which room Sarah was in. A>>>>> > pale Rick said he would wait out in the hall.>>>>>
    >>>>>> > Santa quietly peeked into the room through the>>>>> > half-closed door and saw little Sarah on the bed. The>>>>> > room was full of what appeared to be her family; there>>>>> > was the Grandmother and the girl’s brother he had>>>>> > met earlier that day. A woman whom he guessed was>>>>> > Sarah’s mother stood by the bed, gently pushing>>>>> > Sarah’s thin hair off her forehead. And another woman>>>>> > who he discovered later was Sarah’s aunt, sat in a>>>>> > chair near the bed with a weary, sad look on her>>>>> > face. They were talking quietly, and Santa could>>>>> > sense the warmth and closeness of the family, and>>>>> > their love and concern for Sarah.>>>>> >>>>>> > Taking a deep breath, and forcing a smile on his>>>>> > face, Santa entered the room, bellowing a hearty,>>>>> > “Ho, ho, ho!”>>>>> >>>>>> > “Santa!” shrieked little Sarah weakly, as>>>>> > she tried to escape her bed to run to him,>>>>> > IV>>>>> > tubes>>>>> > intact. Santa rushed to her side and gave her a warm hug.>>>>> >>>>>> > A child the tender age of his own son — 4 years old>>>>> > — gazed up at him with wonder and excitement. Her>>>>> > skin was pale and her short tresses bore telltale bald>>>>> > patches from the effects of chemotherapy. But all he>>>>> > saw when he looked at her was a pair of huge, blue>>>>> > eyes. His heart melted, and he had to force himself to>>>>> > choke back tears. Though his eyes were riveted upon>>>>> >
    Sarah’s face, he could hear the gasps and quiet sobbing>>>>> > of the women in the room.>>>>> > As he and Sarah began talking, the family crept>>>>> > quietly to the bedside one by one,>>>>> > squeezing Santa’s shoulder or his hand gratefully,>>>>> > whispering “thank you” as they gazed>>>>> > sincerely at him with shining eyes. Santa and>>>>> > Sarah talked and talked, and she told him excitedly all>>>>> > the toys she wanted for Christmas, assuring him>>>>> > she’d been a very good girl that year. As>>>>> > their time together dwindled, Santa felt led in his>>>>> > spirit to pray for Sarah, and asked for permission>>>>> > from the girl’s mother. She nodded in agreement,>>>>> > and the entire family circled around Sarah’s bed,>>>>> > holding hands. Santa looked intensely at Sarah and>>>>> > asked her if she believed in angels.>>>>> >>>>>> > “Oh, yes, Santa… I do!” she exclaimed.>>>>> >>>>>> > “Well, I’m going to ask that angels watch>>>>> > over you, “he said. Laying one hand on the>>>>> > child’s head, Santa closed his eyes and prayed. He asked>>>>> > that God touch little Sarah, and heal her body from>>>>> > this disease. He asked that angels minister to>>>>> > her, watch and keep her.>>>>> > And when he finished praying, still with eyes closed,>>>>> > he started singing softly, “Silent
    Night,>>>>> > Holy Night…. all is calm, all is bright.” The>>>>> > family joined in, still holding hands, smiling at>>>>> > Sarah, and crying tears of hope, tears of joy for>>>>> > this moment, as Sarah beamed at them all. When the song>>>>> > ended, Santa sat on the side of the bed again and>>>>> > held Sarah’s frail, small hands in his own.>>>>> >>>>>> > “Now, Sarah, “he said authoritatively,>>>>> > “you have a job to do, and that>>>>> > is to concentrate on getting well. I want you to>>>>> > have fun playing with your friends this summer, and I>>>>> > expect to see you at my house at Mayfair Mall this time>>>>> > next year!” He knew it was risky
    proclaiming that, to>>>>> > this little girl who had terminal cancer, but he>>>>> > “had” to. He had to give her the greatest>>>>> > gift he could — not dolls or games or toys — but the gift>>>>> > of HOPE.>>>>> >>>>>> > “Yes, Santa! “Sarah>>>>> > exclaimed, her eyes bright.>>>>> >>>>>> > He leaned down and kissed her on the forehead and>>>>> > left the room. Out in the hall, the minute>>>>> > Santa’s eyes met Rick’s, a look passed between them>>>>> > and they wept unashamed.. Sarah’s mother and>>>>> > grandmother slipped out of the room quickly and>>>>> > rushed to Santa’s side to thank him.>>>>> >>>>>> > “My only child is the same age as Sarah,”>>>>> > he explained quietly. “This is the least I>>>>> > could do.” They nodded with understanding and
    hugged>>>>> > him.>>>>> >>>>>> > One year later, Santa was again back on the set in>>>>> > Milwaukee for his six-week, seasonal job which he so>>>>> > loves to do. Several weeks went by and then one day a>>>>> > child came up to sit on his lap. “Hi, Santa!>>>>> > Remember me?!”>>>>> >>>>>> > “Of course, I do,” Santa proclaimed (as he>>>>> > always does), smiling down at her.>>>>> >>>>>> > After all, the secret to being a “good”>>>>> > Santa is to always make each child feel as if they are>>>>> >
    the>>>>> > “only” child in the world at that moment.>>>>> >>>>>> > “You came to see me in the hospital last>>>>> > year!” Santa’s jaw gaped.>>>>> >>>>>> > Tears immediately sprang in his eyes, and he grabbed>>>>> > this little miracle and held her to his chest.>>>>> > “Sarah!” he exclaimed. He scarcely>>>>> > recognized her, for her hair was long and silky>>>>> > and her cheeks were rosy — much different from the>>>>> > little girl he had visited just a year before. He looked>>>>> > over and saw Sarah’s mother and grandmother in>>>>> > the sidelines smiling and waving and wiping their>>>>> > eyes.>>>>> >>>>>> > That was the best Christmas ever for Santa Claus. He>>>>> > had witnessed –and been blessed to be instrumental in>>>>> > bringing about — this miracle of
    hope.>>>>> >>>>>> > This precious little child was healed. Cancer-free.>>>>> > Alive and well.>>>>> > He silently looked up to Heaven and humbly>>>>> > whispered, “Thank you, Father. ‘Tis a>>>>> > very, Merry>>>>> > Christmas!>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>
    >>>>>> >>>>>> > If you believe in miracles you will pass this on…I>>>>> > did!>>>>> >>>>>> > The highest courage is to dare to
    be yourself in the>>>>> > face of adversity. Choosing right over wrong, ethics>>>>> > over convenience, and truth over popularity… These>>>>> > are the choices that measure your life. Travel the path of integrity without looking back, for there is never a wrong time to do the right thing. God Bless You and Have A Good Day

  • http://media-2.web.britannica.com/eb-media/63/60563-004-52A399D4.jpg Dakota

    Whoa, is that the Bible Code or something?

  • 4evaRaider

    Gawd I couldnt see for like 5 minutes after reading that one

  • Florida Pete

    Dakota Says:
    December 31st, 2009 at 8:29 am
    DHB made $248,000.00 per catch this season. Not bad!

    :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::

    to think … most of us would have done it for half that…

  • 4evaRaider

    just carrying on the Gippers message….wont do it again

  • raidertbone

    Wow, that was a cold shot of water in an otherwise fun and frivolous group of Raider rants … kinda puts things in perspective. With that, I’m out — Happy New Year, Raider fans … see you at the Coliseum!

  • http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo249/the408RAIDER/749px-I-420svg.png 408RAIDER

    Geebus 4eva WTH?

  • 4evaRaider

    well 408 its a new year and people think they got it bad all over….NOT

  • http://atm Raider O

    4eva,

    Dude!! put the bong Down.

  • ohioraider

    And the award for Al Davis Toady of the Year goes to…

  • http://atm Raider O

    Happy New Year Nation, and I hope this new year will be better for all of us. God knows we have earned it after 8 losing seasons!

  • NorthernD

    # 253

    Someone started drinking early this year…

  • http://media-2.web.britannica.com/eb-media/63/60563-004-52A399D4.jpg Dakota

    And last, but not least, over the past 7 seasons Al Davis has paid $677,082,423 in player salaries for 29 victories for an average of $23,347,669.75 per victory.

    Al Davis…GM of the decade!

  • http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo249/the408RAIDER/749px-I-420svg.png 408RAIDER

    tiss the season.

  • http://atm Raider O

    I will be happy with 7+ wins next season!

  • wishbone

    Alex I’ll take Raiders accounts payable for 1,000

  • 4evaRaider

    Alex….I’ll take “Things Nobody Knows” for a 1000

  • NorthernD

    TOP TEN
    PLAYS OF THE YEAR

    10) Tommy Kelly drops his drawers
    9)
    8)
    7)
    6)
    5)
    4)
    3)
    2)
    1)

    Carry on…

  • ohioraider

    $23.3 mil per win. Very efficient.

  • wishbone

    9)JaFatazz wearing his beanie during the KC game when it’s 90 degrees

  • http://media-2.web.britannica.com/eb-media/63/60563-004-52A399D4.jpg Dakota

    8.)JaFatazz showing up to camp with only a beer gut and mowhawk to show for his offseason workout regiment.

  • http://media-2.web.britannica.com/eb-media/63/60563-004-52A399D4.jpg Dakota

    7) Tom Cable ordering the players to play patty-cake for the first few days of training camp.

  • http://blstb.msn.com/i/55/90A2853B6CFBCC2AFC987BB18B832.jpg vegas raider

    Where does Tom Cable’s “4 verticals” play-call, on the first play with a struggling QB, brand new RT and on his own goalline fall?

  • http://media-2.web.britannica.com/eb-media/63/60563-004-52A399D4.jpg Dakota

    I’d just like to wish you all a Happy New Year!

    And here is one last word on Cable just for the hell of it!

    FIRE THAT FAT WIFE-BEATING BUFFOON!!!!!!

  • RaiderRockstar

    expecting Brown/Alston/Williams to fill in the open OLB spot was pretty hilarious. so was starting Eugene & Warren on defense.

    starting Heyward-Bey when he clearly wasn’t ready ranks pretty high and 4th rounder Murphy outplaying DHB certainly is a cause for concern.

    Higgins fraidy cat display after getting hammered in Week 1 was pretty disgusting.

    Lawton/Russell/Reece at FB instead of Lorenzo Neal?

    Oren O’Neal on IR asap, but Nick Miller active until week 17?

  • RaiderRockstar

    Happy New Year Dakota!

  • RaiderRockstar

    I bet none of the 6 Pro Bowl QB’s get paid 1.75 million (guaranteed) per TD pass like Russell has the past 3 years!

  • 4evaRaider

    Yeah Happy New Year Dakota and for ever increasing family =)

  • 4evaRaider

    for YOUR ever increasing,sorry

  • RaiderRockstar

    stellar season for 4th round pick Slade Norris!

    active for 4 games. 0 tackles

    in comparison …

    Jasper Brinkley (5th round pick) has been active for 15 games. 18 solo tackles and a forced fumble

  • Stabler76

    Justin Fargas has made $12,535,840 in 7 seasons tallying 10 total TDs for an average of $1,253,584 per TD.

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
    1.2 Million per touchdown

    I can see numbers being out of whack for a rookie, but this is 7 years and 10 touchdowns.

    Who in the world votes for the Commitment to Excellence award for this guy.

    I joked about one touchdown last year, but 10 TDs in seven years??? Come On

    Fargas : Alex, I’ll take the difference between s**t and Shinola for 1.2 million.

    Alex : Answer : Should a RB run across the imaginery plane of the goal line or into a DT?

    Fargas: Alex, Where is the back of Robert Gallery legs?

  • NorthernD

    TOP TEN
    PLAYS OF THE YEAR

    10) Tommy Kelly drops his drawers
    9)JaFatazz wearing his beanie during the KC game when it’s 90 degrees
    8)JaFatazz showing up to camp with only a beer gut and mowhawk to show for his offseason workout regiment.
    7) Tom Cable ordering the players to play patty-cake for the first few days of training camp.
    6)Lechler’s pursuit of a PUNTING record as the only thing to look forward to in December.
    5)SeaBass kicks a 61 yarder in freezing weather. (Another tale of special teams glory. Yippeee…)
    4)
    3)
    2)
    1)

    Carry on…

  • Stabler76

    4) Aso make Pro Bowl with 4 passes defended

  • RaiderRockstar

    draft Eugene Monroe & Ron Brace!

    or

    BJ Raji & Max Unger!

    wait, am I too late ???

  • Plunketthead

    A little Raider Animation.
    Pretty funny stuff on this website.
    Al Davis haters will luv this.
    http://www.bangcartoon.com/2006/busted.htm

  • NorthernD

    Stabler76 Says:
    December 31st, 2009 at 9:53 am
    Justin Fargas has made $12,535,840 in 7 seasons tallying 10 total TDs for an average of $1,253,584 per TD.

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
    1.2 Million per touchdown

    I can see numbers being out of whack for a rookie, but this is 7 years and 10 touchdowns.

    Who in the world votes for the Commitment to Excellence award for this guy.

    I joked about one touchdown last year, but 10 TDs in seven years??? Come On

    Fargas : Alex, I’ll take the difference between s**t and Shinola for 1.2 million.

    Alex : Answer : Should a RB run across the imaginery plane of the goal line or into a DT?

    Fargas: Alex, Where is the back of Robert Gallery legs?
    ===================================
    That kind of money is insane, but then most NFL salaries are insane.
    But in relative terms, he hasn’t been over-payed for what he’s done. To be on the Raiders for 7 years, and be listed as a starter for some of that time, 12 Mil is not that bad.
    You can probably list 20 players off the top of your head who underperformed for much more money over that time.
    At least he’s given it 100% effort, and made full use of his moderate talent. I’m sure there’s a lot of Raiders you can’t say that about. ( Can you guess which one I’m thinking about???)

  • http://blstb.msn.com/i/55/90A2853B6CFBCC2AFC987BB18B832.jpg vegas raider

    Rockstar,

    Ron Brace?? Didn’t he blow out his knee in week 1.

  • http://blstb.msn.com/i/55/90A2853B6CFBCC2AFC987BB18B832.jpg vegas raider

    What about Matt S, making the top 10 list.

    3rd most sacks of any rookie, 2nd most for sacks and tackles for D-lineman.

    One of the most productive defensive rookies, in the entire draft.

  • Plunketthead
  • NorthernD

    Ron Brace made a name because he was riding on BJ Raji’s coattails at Boston College. Raji is tearing it up in Green Bay, and Brace is…just a body.

  • Stabler76

    Northern D
    You can probably list 20 players off the top of your head who underperformed for much more money over that time
    ————————————————
    The money is not the objection, just the TD results.

    I can’t think of one tailback who has scored <10 TDs and remained with the same team for 7 years.

  • Plunketthead

    Current Raiders with JR
    http://www.bangcartoon.com/2009/selected_shorts.htm

    Those other two were old.

  • http://blstb.msn.com/i/55/90A2853B6CFBCC2AFC987BB18B832.jpg vegas raider

    How many RB’s, even with the most production, stay with the same team for 7 years?

    Not excusing the Fargas role, just RB is such a constant change-over position.

  • 4evaRaider

    thats all real good stuff there Plunketthead and Happy New Year To You Brother!

  • Stabler76

    Vegas..

    My point exactly, constant changeover because under achievers are moved.

  • RaiderRockstar

    Ron Brace?? Didn’t he blow out his knee in week 1.

    ***

    No, Brace has been active for 8 games this season. just made his 1st start on 12/20 against the Bills

  • NorthernD

    Stabler76,
    You’re right.
    Some guys have a nose for the end zone and others don’t. Don’t forget though, there have been plenty of backs who were replaced by goal line runners. Barry Sanders, Tiki Barber, etc. They were all replaced near the endzone.
    Fargas tries to go through defenders too much, and that doesn’t work when they bring in the big boys in short yardage.
    I never understood why they didn’t get him to return kicks. He seems like the perfect type to do that, ie expendable.

  • RaiderRockstar

    Raji is tearing it up in Green Bay, and Brace is…just a body.

    ***

    Raji has been active for 13 games. Has 17 solo tackles & 1 sack