Even Raiders follow the Ravens’ leader
By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Saturday, January 2nd, 2010 at 11:07 am in Oakland Raiders.
In determining why the Baltimore Ravens haven’t lost to any of the league’s lesser lights over the past two years, the presence of linebacker Ray Lewis is a good place to start.
Lewis, as referenced Wednesday, has made the Ravens virtually impossible to run against for the Raiders.
As a rookie during the first year of the franchise’s rebirth as the Ravens after leaving Cleveland, Lewis is a rarity in an era of player movement. No contemporary player is as closely identified with the uniform he wears. The Ravens are Lewis, Lewis is the Ravens.
Any damage to his reputation after pleading guilty to obstruction of justice a decade ago when two members of his entourage went on trial (and were acquitted) in the death of two men in Atlanta has long since dissipated.
Nnamdi Asomugha didn’t fully comprehend the scope of Lewis’ reach until he played in the Pro Bowl last year.
“You understand the Pro Bowl _ it’s all of the top guys. You don’t think in terms of a captain on the team,” Asomugha said. `All through the week guys are shooting the bull during practice. Nobody cared about anything. We’re getting ready to play and guys are cracking jokes.
“Ray Lewis calls everyone up, commands a group huddle in the locker room, and gives probably the greatest pregame speech I’ve heard in my life. For the Pro Bowl. Peyton Manning is standing at attention. It doesn’t matter who it is.
“Everyone’s stone-faced, standing up straight. When he finished, everyone was going crazy and excited, and I thought, `He’s got the most respect of anyone in this room.’ ”
With that kind of credibility, it’s no wonder the Ravens rarely slip up against teams with inferior records. When the face of the organization is putting his heart and soul into every practice snap, going on cruise control is not an option.
“When you have a guy like that, you don’t want to let him down,” linebacker Kirk Morrison said. “You see the amount of passion he has, what he puts into it. He’s been doing it for a long time and you develop that respect where you have the Pro Bowls, the accolades. Everyone knows you’ve been there, and you demand it from everybody else. If you’re not playing to the best of your abilities, you’re going to have to deal with him.”
Quarterback Charlie Frye started two games for the Cleveland Browns with Lewis on the other side, and knows he’ll be sore on Monday because that’s simply the way it is against the Ravens.
“There’s a different vibe about him,” Frye said. “Different than anyone else I’ve played against. At the end of the day, you want someone like that on your team.”
Lewis, 34, doesn’t believe he’s lost a thing. He’s watched film of when he was the centerpiece of the 2000 Ravens defense as well as now and told Bay Area reporters by conference call, “I think the biggest difference is you’ll see a much smarter me. As a young man, you’re just running around. When I look at film from years ago I see the same passion, but a lot of the small mistakes I don’t make anymore. When I watch film, I see a much smarter player.”
Morrison sought out Lewis on the field in 2006 following a 28-6 win by the Ravens in Baltimore, and later met up with him at an ESPN event in Los Angeles. He instantly became one of dozens of players who remain in occasional contact with their mentor through phone calls and text messages.
“He embraced me more than I ever would have thought for someone of his status,” Morrison said. “It was, `Hey, Kirk. Take my number. Let’s talk. Let’s talk tomorrow.’ ”
Lewis said he has no idea how many younger players he remains in contact with, while Morrison figures it has to be at least a hundred.
“He’s probably the most respected guy in this league because he reaches out to everybody,” Morrison said. “He’s open to that role.”
Twenty-five players were selected in the NFL draft in 1996 before the Ravens selected Lewis at No. 26. The Raiders actually traded up that year to take tight end Rickey Dudley at No. 9. Dudley was the polar opposite of Lewis, a spectacular physical specimen and an earnest worker whose true passion was for basketball.
Hard to fault the Raiders for that. It’s doubtful that even the Ravens, who secured Jonathan Ogden earlier in that round (giving them two probable Hall of Fame players) had little idea they’d built a successful foundation.
Raiders coach Tom Cable agreed that having Lewis in the locker room and on the field as a leader makes it so the Ravens are almost never surprised.
“Those guys are worth their weight in gold,” Cable said.
RAIDER NOTES:
– If you’re still holding out hope that Jon Gruden may some day make his way back to Oakland, consider that a club staffer phoned Ricky’s Sports Grill and Lounge and requested that all photos from the Dec. 14 party hosted by Gruden with current employees of the organization be removed from the restaurant’s Web site.
Good to know that as the Raiders move forward to recapture their greatness, they’re focused on the right things.
– The Ravens are preparing for “Raiders tactics” after seeing film of the penalty-fest against Cleveland, which included $40,000 in fines to tight end Tony Stewart, defensive lineman Richard Seymour and cornerback Stanford Routt.
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January 2nd, 2010 at 11:12 am
Happy New Year, Jerry. Thanks for the continuing great job on the best Raiders blog on the net — whether you’re wrong or right with your opinions!
January 2nd, 2010 at 11:13 am
Twenty-five players were selected in the NFL draft in 1996 before the Ravens selected Lewis at No. 26. The Raiders actually traded up that year to take tight end Rickey Dudley at No. 9. Dudley was the polar opposite of Lewis, a spectacular physical specimen and an earnest worker whose true passion was for basketball.
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Jeezus H. Chriest!
January 2nd, 2010 at 11:15 am
This is for you Davis Idolaters who don’t believe Davis has long ears. Who don’t believe he cares about the media.
– If you’re still holding out hope that Jon Gruden may some day make his way back to Oakland, consider that a club staffer phoned Ricky’s Sports Grill and Lounge and requested that all photos from the Dec. 14 party hosted by Gruden with current employees of the organization be removed from the restaurant’s Web site.
Good to know that as the Raiders move forward to recapture their greatness, they’re focused on the right things.
January 2nd, 2010 at 11:16 am
Hey Al, can you hear me?
YOUR WAY IS NOT WORKING
January 2nd, 2010 at 11:32 am
January 01, 2010, 06:19 PM EST
OWINGS MILLS, Md. — The Baltimore Ravens might have to account for much more than the Oakland Raiders’ blocking, tackling and pure speed during Sunday’s pivotal regular-season finale.
According to the Cleveland Browns, the Ravens will have to be wary of the Raiders’ tendency to deliver head-butts, punch and twist fingers before and after the whistle.
The Raiders were penalized 13 times during a loss to the Browns last week with two players ejected with $40,000 subsequently assessed in fines by the league office.
Oakland was hit with two unnecessary roughness flags, two unsportsmanlike conduct penalties and another one for taunting.
After the Browns beat Oakland last week in Cleveland, they made several accusations against the Raiders.
That included running back Jerome Harrison saying the Raiders punched him while he was on the ground and Raiders defensive tackle Gerard Warren allegedly twisting rookie center Alex Mack’s hands and fingers.
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I like this stuff, but I would also like to WIN games, so CUT DOWN PENALTIES NOW!
January 2nd, 2010 at 11:32 am
Now…as far as Gruden’s pics — while wearing Raiders garb, with current team staffers — what’s the team supposed to do?
Pretend that they still have an affiliation to Gruden, when in fact he’s on a P.R. campaign to promote everything Jon Gruden?
OF COURSE, Gruden wants the world to see how accommodating — even forgiving, the way he’s acting — he can be…sour grapes won’t get him another job any faster.
Just like Gruden was worried about HIS OWN best interests when he told Al he wanted to leave — he’s looking out for his own best interests now. Gruden, in Raiders garb, surrounded by his friends from the Raiders, shouldn’t be used to promote ANY business unless it’s the Raiders — not even the once-great (and still sometimes fun) Ricky’s.
Any Raiders fan who thinks Jon Gruden gives a bigger rat’s a$$ about them (or the Raiders) than his own self interests is being completely blinded by their infatuation with the guy.
Gruden was never going to be the long-term answer in Oakland, and he won’t be back again. Al took his fateful, disastrous, steps to let the guy go…and even he admits it was a mistake.
Gru got his ring…thank you very much, Dungy and Callahan. Then he got fired when his-way-or-the-highway got him steered to the highway once again. Now, he needs to parlay all of his PR expertise into his next 4-year gig. Somewhere other than Oakland.
January 2nd, 2010 at 11:39 am
Oh, yeah…It’s a great day to be a Raiders fan. Isn’t it?
January 2nd, 2010 at 11:49 am
You make a compelling argument HayesDaze37, but Al is still turning a potentially positive situation into a definately negative one.
As usual
January 2nd, 2010 at 11:50 am
YEP
January 2nd, 2010 at 11:51 am
So Gruden is only looking out for himself.
Big deal. Anyone in his position would.
The point is, it’s a punk b@t@h move by Al to request Ricky’s to take the pics down. A clear sign Al is little more than a legend in his own mind.
But maybe that’s just me.
January 2nd, 2010 at 11:54 am
2010 Draft:
1. DL (or MLB)
2. MLB (or DL)
3. OL
3. RB
4. DB
5. QB
7. DL
January 2nd, 2010 at 11:56 am
I SAY ANYONE & EVERYONE WHO IS A
TRUE RAIDERS FAN, SHOULD SHOW UP TO
THE GAME TOMORROW. LET’S SHOW THOSE GUYS WE
SUPPORT THEM. LET THEM KNOW THAT EVEN DURING
THESE BAD TiMES, WE STILL LOVE OUT RAAAADERRRS!!
I LIVE 4 HOURS AWAY, & I WOULD LOVE B THERE.
SHOOT! I MIGHT JUST DO THAT. I’MA GET SOME CASH
TOGETHER RIGHT NOW!!
January 2nd, 2010 at 11:58 am
The Raiders are so freakin irrelevant that its ridiculous…..and sad. I refuse 2 go 2 another game or renew my season tix until they do something, anything 2 fix this mess. Pls Al hire a GM
January 2nd, 2010 at 12:07 pm
And nobody has said why Ricky’s should be allowed to promote their biz with fresh pics of a non-affiliated Gruden wearing Raiders gear.
Technically…it’s not even about Gruden, it’s about one business (more actually, since Gruden IS a business) making money off another business’s good name and Trademark.
The fact that it’s Ricky’s and Gruden make it seem closer to home…but, it’s the same all over the business world. The Raiders have NO AFFILIATION with Jon Gruden. He shouldn’t be parading around in Raiders gear, making financial gain from it, if he isn’t part of the organization.
Gruden’s no Raider…he wanted to leave, got what he wanted…and now, he snows everybody into thinking he actually gives a shot about the team, and the fans that swoon for him every time they see him.
Anybody who WANTS to see an unemployed (coaching-wise) Gruden wearing Raiders gear is just wishing for something that NEVER WAS.
Gru doesn’t want to be a Raider…but he does want to coach again, and his ESPN-funded PR swing is getting him all the press he needs…to make some other team go crazy enough to want his mania around for a couple years.
Is that Texas Tech calling?
January 2nd, 2010 at 12:07 pm
Exactly, 4eva
Pics of Gruden in Raider garb at Ricky’s is nothing to get all bent out of shape about.
On the other hand, Al Davis running a once proud organization into the ground is.
It really doesn’t get any simpler than that.
January 2nd, 2010 at 12:15 pm
Actually, Mikey…they’re both things to get bent out of shape about. Protecting a Trademark/Tradename is important right down to the finest detail, and should be a separate discussion from how poorly Al’s teams have done lately.
January 2nd, 2010 at 12:22 pm
rooch Says:
January 2nd, 2010 at 11:56 am
I SAY ANYONE & EVERYONE WHO IS A
TRUE RAIDERS FAN, SHOULD SHOW UP TO
THE GAME TOMORROW. LET’S SHOW THOSE GUYS WE
SUPPORT THEM. LET THEM KNOW THAT EVEN DURING
THESE BAD TiMES, WE STILL LOVE OUT RAAAADERRRS!!
I LIVE 4 HOURS AWAY, & I WOULD LOVE B THERE.
SHOOT! I MIGHT JUST DO THAT. I’MA GET SOME CASH
TOGETHER RIGHT NOW!!
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and do what???
you’re not suggesting the fans throw money at the players???
January 2nd, 2010 at 12:25 pm
Meaning no disrespect, HD
But last I heard, this was still a relatively free country when it comes to clothing.
The reports I read about said occasion stated Gruden BOUGHT the Raider gear in question. None of the reports indicated Gruden made any money, aside from his ESPN salary, from his visit. But if you have evidence that suggests he did, I’d be really interested in seeing it. Since Gruden bought it, he’s entitled to wear it.
That said, I completely understand where you’re coming from. Problem is, this Gruden thing is small potatoes compared to Al’s management of this franchise.
January 2nd, 2010 at 12:38 pm
This is simple….Gruden wearing a Raiders jersey is free publicity 2 Al
January 2nd, 2010 at 12:47 pm
Gradkowski is our Ray Lewis. We win at least 8 next year if he starts every game. You can bet on it.
January 2nd, 2010 at 12:50 pm
Florida Pete
Florida Pete
and do what???
you’re not suggesting the fans throw money at the players???
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nah dawg…..lol
I meant I was gonna get some cash to
go to the game.
January 2nd, 2010 at 12:50 pm
Mikey — None taken, and I respect your opinion.
My unwavering (yet often critical) support for Al Davis doing what he wants with his own team, is well known on this board. And, yes, I agree there are bigger potatoes than this in a football sense…but this is a separate issue entirely, from day-to-day football operations. Whether the team has had a disastrous recent past or not has nothing to do with protecting the Brand from those who would use it for their own financial gain.
The flip Ricky, Jr. should actually be a little more choosy with his comments, considering the Raiders players and organization have been extremely good to him, his family, and their obviously successful run as bar owners all these years — making money off the Raiders every step of the way. Junior’s attitude is actually the reason a number of people avoid his once-legendary hangout these days. Money first, baby — who cares about customer service anyway?
Ricky’s has a BIG financial stake in using Gruden’s pics for their own PR purposes. If they tried a little harder to support the Raiders ORGANIZATION, win or lose, maybe the pics in question wouldn’t have been as big of deal as it’s turned into.
But, even then…the Raiders have every right to ask that photos of current employees, taken with the FIRED ex-employee, be taken off any web site (or other) advertisement for any business.
January 2nd, 2010 at 12:54 pm
Rooch — You go to that game…and watch the Raiders battle every step of the way. Be proud to come on out — and yes, the players actually do appreciate the support from unwavering fans. And they COLLECTIVELY deserve a lot more respect than they get from some!
Bandwagoners and under-miners be damned — it’s a great day to be a Raiders fan!
January 2nd, 2010 at 12:55 pm
HD37…..why cant it be just “old-times”? He used to live and play here
January 2nd, 2010 at 12:59 pm
Really, when you think about Javon Walkers production this year he only came up 9 receptions short of our #1 receiver. On most teams that would be considered a pretty good year!!
Bye Bye Cable!!
January 2nd, 2010 at 1:03 pm
The timing of it is what kills me the most. Couldn’t they wait a few months to quietly ask “Ricky’s” this? Let the good times sink in for awhile, and than ask them to take down the pics either when Gruden gets a new job or in March when nothing is going on?
January 2nd, 2010 at 1:14 pm
Damn….once again,much ado about nothing
January 2nd, 2010 at 1:24 pm
?? 4eva? I don’t get what you’re saying.
Old times with Gruden were tenuous at best sometimes — in and out of the locker room. The best (for Gruden) and worst thing (for the Raiders) to happen was the connection to the stupid horror doll.
Gruden became a caricature…and the energy to be Chucky took more than the energy he had for both the caricature and the mania in Oakland. Being swept-up in honeymoon-like adulation only lasts so long…as both us Raiders fans who were in the middle of it, and the fans in Tampa, discovered.
Gruden’s fascinating hold on the fans — even while alienating players and owners — only goes so far. He never “lived” here for long — his family base was in Fla, and that’s where he wanted to go. Will Gruden provide a spark wherever he lands? Oh yeah. Will that spark end up burning more bridges? Most definitely.
Gruden was a good coach…a GOOD coach, not great. His sideline and off-field persona is a GREAT promo tool — but that’s all it is. He was only a Raider in name…he didn’t want to stay a Raider…he probably never really wanted to be one in the first place, but he got that HC job he coveted so he could look elsewhere. He and Lance share that much in common.
Years later, I’m glad he got his wish to not be a Raider forever…since it was all about him in the first place.
January 2nd, 2010 at 1:33 pm
Ok Ok Ok, Al gives in or dies, we get new ownership, we also get a great team after some time, and then we have to deal with losing the raiders to another venue, and it aint gonna be around Oakland, so then what?………Oakland Raiders RIP……..
January 2nd, 2010 at 1:34 pm
HD37….This has nothing to do with “his” locker room 10 years ago.Jon Gruden lived in and around Oakland Ca. in his life.He did not just go directly to and from his job,he also had and obviously still has a social life.He is not affilliated wuth any nfl team.If he woulda wore a Bucs jersey you guys would be screaming the other way…..
Gruden still has friends here and may do as he pleases….thats a slippery slope HD37,imo
January 2nd, 2010 at 1:38 pm
That really sucks Frank! That will be his legacy for this generation. He held on too tight and sank his own ship. He made poor choice after poor choice and eventually the fan base had enough and stopped buying the product. Another entity takes over and before Oakland gets a shot at redemption the team will be gone.
That’s how Al Davis will be remembered in the bay area!
sad
January 2nd, 2010 at 1:44 pm
yep….the London Fog
January 2nd, 2010 at 1:46 pm
The Paris Stench
January 2nd, 2010 at 1:48 pm
HD
I completely get your beef with Gruden. But I gotta agree with 4eva. Gruden is entitled to sport Raider gear he’s personally bought. And considering just how Al came into control of the Raiders back in the day, I would argue Rick Jr’s actions pale in comparison.
This is just Al’s karma coming back to bite him in the a@@.
It’s just too bad its us who suffer for it.
January 2nd, 2010 at 1:53 pm
Hazy Daze, what the hell are you writing about? Again, the Raiders show the world they are petty and vindictive. That is the reason people are digging the knife deeper at this continuing comedy of errors organization. Why doesn’t Madden sit with Davis when he goes to a Raiders game?
January 2nd, 2010 at 1:53 pm
Mikey,
I think Big Al is suffering alot.
It’s one thing to lead the clan to the promised land and then step down than it is to drive them into the ground and then step down.
It’s all about ego!
January 2nd, 2010 at 1:55 pm
# HayesDaze37 Says:
January 2nd, 2010 at 12:50 pm
Mikey — None taken, and I respect your opinion.
My unwavering (yet often critical) support for Al Davis doing what he wants with his own team, is well known on this board. And, yes, I agree there are bigger potatoes than this in a football sense…but this is a separate issue entirely, from day-to-day football operations. Whether the team has had a disastrous recent past or not has nothing to do with protecting the Brand from those who would use it for their own financial gain.
The flip Ricky, Jr. should actually be a little more choosy with his comments, considering the Raiders players and organization have been extremely good to him, his family, and their obviously successful run as bar owners all these years — making money off the Raiders every step of the way. Junior’s attitude is actually the reason a number of people avoid his once-legendary hangout these days. Money first, baby — who cares about customer service anyway?
Ricky’s has a BIG financial stake in using Gruden’s pics for their own PR purposes. If they tried a little harder to support the Raiders ORGANIZATION, win or lose, maybe the pics in question wouldn’t have been as big of deal as it’s turned into.
But, even then…the Raiders have every right to ask that photos of current employees, taken with the FIRED ex-employee, be taken off any web site (or other) advertisement for any business.
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No, supporting the team a “little more” wouldn’t have done squat.
Previous player John Vella, who supported everything about the Raiders every step of the way, who had the Raiders Lockerroom in Castro Valley, who held umpteen Raider rally events, player signings, was told by the Raiders, out of the blue, to remove Raiders from his store front.
and how has the organization and players been good to Ricky’s? he created, out of his love for the team, a Raider bar..had nothing to do with the Raiders. Through hard work he built the place. Players knew it was a raider bar..had nothing to do with the organization..called free enterprise.
Raiders should be thanking him..one of the last diehard places left in the bay area, who, in spite of what Al has done to the organization, still are diehards.
Not like most waffle fans on this site.
Another blackout tomorrow..7 in a row..and had it not been for MNF, where the station bought up blocks of tickets, it would have been a clean sweep of SILVER AND BLACKOUTS in the bay.
January 2nd, 2010 at 2:02 pm
Ted Nugent, rock star and avid bow hunter from Michigan, was being interviewed by a French journalist, an animal rights activist.
The discussion came around to deer hunting.
The journalist asked, ‘What do you think is the last thought in the head of a deer before you shoot him? Is it, ‘Are you my friend?’ or is it ‘Are you the one who killed my brother?
Nugent replied, ‘Deer aren’t capable of that kind of thinking. All they care about is, what am I going to eat next, who am I going to screw next, and can I run fast enough to get away. They are very much like the French.’
The interview ended.
January 2nd, 2010 at 2:03 pm
4eva, that was classic.
January 2nd, 2010 at 2:04 pm
Richochet is French
January 2nd, 2010 at 2:07 pm
Richochet, where can I find your sister? Hey, your mom and sister together? Might work
January 2nd, 2010 at 2:09 pm
How pathetic, the Raiders going after a Raider sports bar.
January 2nd, 2010 at 2:10 pm
Not as pathetic as Richochet
January 2nd, 2010 at 2:10 pm
# vegas raider Says:
January 2nd, 2010 at 1:03 pm
The timing of it is what kills me the most. Couldn’t they wait a few months to quietly ask “Ricky’s” this? Let the good times sink in for awhile, and than ask them to take down the pics either when Gruden gets a new job or in March when nothing is going on?
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They???
Since when is Al “they”?
Al had Chuckie tell him F OFF, OLD MAN..YOU DON’T HAVE ENOUGH MONEY TO KEEP ME..Where Al then trades Gruden away for draft picks that amounted to nothing..then Al sees Chuckie show back up, and Al sees HIS EMPLOYEES FLOCK TO GRUDEN, like groupies..all happy as hell that Chuckie’s back in the area..almost screaming out WE MISS YOU SO MUCH.
The moment Al got wind of or SAW THE WEB SITE, you know damn well it was REMOVE THAT NOW, OR I SUE.
Yet another petty payback from Al that further tarnishes his now tattered image.
January 2nd, 2010 at 2:11 pm
Richochet, you are a poodle
January 2nd, 2010 at 2:12 pm
no, a peanut
January 2nd, 2010 at 2:15 pm
I say get rid of both Cable and Russell and bring back Gruden!!!
January 2nd, 2010 at 2:15 pm
Richochet said AD is a poodle.
January 2nd, 2010 at 2:18 pm
Davis,
Blackouts = Turned off.
Wakrimastuska?
January 2nd, 2010 at 2:20 pm
Yep, LMFAO at CaptainDork.
dude..glance above.
Look how freaking pathetic you look.
10 posts, in a row, just begging for my attention?
Your dumbass had 4 back to back one sentence silly juvenile takes in a row, to me..which, AGAIN, indicates that little light on top is very…very…dim.
I’m like a magnet for kids.
January 2nd, 2010 at 2:21 pm
I keep it simple for poodles like you.
January 2nd, 2010 at 2:25 pm
Come on poodle, more posts.
January 2nd, 2010 at 2:26 pm
Poodle or peanut, which do you prefer?
January 2nd, 2010 at 2:28 pm
Question: Has any owner, in any sport, done more to completely destroy an organization than Al Davis has?
Ok..we know the answer to that.
Try this instead..has ANY OWNER ever gone from being totally revered, loved, and respected by the fans, to being hated, scorned, and wishing he would just die/go away by those same fans, to the degree Al Davis has?
January 2nd, 2010 at 2:30 pm
CaptainBlack Says:
January 2nd, 2010 at 2:26 pm
Poodle or peanut, which do you prefer?
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i don’t address the little prick… but if i did… i would try one of the following: princess… fruit loop… strap-on… (the last one is my personal favorite)…
January 2nd, 2010 at 2:32 pm
Poodle, nobody wants to play with you. However, I will talk to you; so tell me, why are you such a calk?
January 2nd, 2010 at 2:32 pm
Richochet Says:
January 2nd, 2010 at 2:28 pm
Question: Has any owner, in any sport, done more to completely destroy an organization than Al Davis has?
Ok..we know the answer to that.
Try this instead..has ANY OWNER ever gone from being totally revered, loved, and respected by the fans, to being hated, scorned, and wishing he would just die/go away by those same fans, to the degree Al Davis has?
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try Charlie O Finley…
January 2nd, 2010 at 2:33 pm
Fruit loop is perfect for you. I did not know you were a gay cheerio? I make myself laugh.
January 2nd, 2010 at 2:34 pm
Richochet is a fruit loop, a princess. I knew it!
January 2nd, 2010 at 2:35 pm
Florida, Poodle is too young to have known Charlie O.
January 2nd, 2010 at 2:38 pm
Richochet, your momma likes them big uns’ too. Maybe she can use your strap-on, or even your toe. Never mind. Something tells me you are hung like a hummingbird. I think it was yo momma
January 2nd, 2010 at 2:45 pm
Open Letter from Richochet to Al: Al, stop being a peanut! We fans are tired of your poodle antics.
Nice thougts, Richochet. Deep!
January 2nd, 2010 at 2:53 pm
Just watched that Okung guy from Oklahoma State. He is supposed to be a top 10 pick and he looked pretty dang good.
Flattened a guy a few times. Oklahoma State runs a screwed up offense so it was hard to tell sometimes if he was at fault for some weird things going on around him.
I thought he looked better than Suh did in his bowl game.
Joe Haden last night from Florida I think cemented himself in the top 10 or 15.
January 2nd, 2010 at 2:55 pm
I wouldn’t take this Mallet kid from Arkansas if he were there in the 3rd round.
I have never been real impressed with him. A poor man’s Drew Bledsoe, and that might be an insult to poor people.
January 2nd, 2010 at 3:03 pm
# Florida Pete Says:
January 2nd, 2010 at 2:30 pm
i don’t address the little prick… but if i did… i would try one of the following: princess… fruit loop… strap-on… (the last one is my personal favorite)…
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# Florida Pete Says:
January 2nd, 2010 at 2:32 pm
Richochet Says:
January 2nd, 2010 at 2:28 pm
Question: Has any owner, in any sport, done more to completely destroy an organization than Al Davis has?
Ok..we know the answer to that.
Try this instead..has ANY OWNER ever gone from being totally revered, loved, and respected by the fans, to being hated, scorned, and wishing he would just die/go away by those same fans, to the degree Al Davis has?
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try Charlie O Finley…
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First off, how damn stupid are you that you post how you NEVER address me, then immediately following that silly post, you do exactly what you state you never do?
Are you slow?
Seriously..you have trouble following what YOU JUST SAID?
lol..it’s like I’m at a convention of “challenged” people.
We have some stupid kid, with the kiddy name of “CaptainBlack” who follows me like a little puppy, and then we have Petey who’s too stupid to not soil his own shoe.
lol..yep..another instant classic.
And no, Charley O doesn’t even come close to Al.
Charley O was always disliked, and even when the A’s were winning, he never won people over.
Him and his stupid mule, garish colors, and stupid trades.
Al Davis WAS loved by every Raider fan out there. Hell, some pathetic tools on this board admitted they’re Raiders just because of Al, nothing more..but now?
From 100% total loyalty, to 95% wanting him GONE…maybe even more.
Worst owner of any team, of any sport.
January 2nd, 2010 at 3:10 pm
So what Richochet is saying is that they are both poodles.
January 2nd, 2010 at 3:11 pm
no, he says they are both peanuts? I’m so confused. Which one, pus nutz?
January 2nd, 2010 at 3:13 pm
or is it puppy?
January 2nd, 2010 at 3:14 pm
I soiled myself and found Richochet. Boy, you smell…
January 2nd, 2010 at 3:18 pm
# SaintKaufman Says:
January 2nd, 2010 at 1:38 pm
That really sucks Frank! That will be his legacy for this generation. He held on too tight and sank his own ship. He made poor choice after poor choice and eventually the fan base had enough and stopped buying the product. Another entity takes over and before Oakland gets a shot at redemption the team will be gone.
That’s how Al Davis will be remembered in the bay area!
sad
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The reality of it is that the first part of the raiders legacy is forgotten, we older fans are the ones who have the vivid memories of the first coming of the raiders, then you have the after l.a. fans just as loyal just a different breed of fan the black hole started and so on a different legacy, but once Al Davis is gone we will never see the raiders again, not as we know them now. I take to point that you never saw an old raider help an opposing team member off the ground, never! Now everybodys friends cuz everyone went to college together and so on, just a different time, sooner or later home depot will own them and they will be playing in Evanston, wyoming………Oakland Raiders RIP
January 2nd, 2010 at 3:22 pm
dear mr strap-on… (you know who you are)…
i’ll read anything that is short and to the point…
most of your posts are rambling, cut&paste monstrosities that defy reason and speak to a manic/depressive, obsessive/complusive disorder… (those i do not read)…
and quite frankly, i dislike the mentally ill…
January 2nd, 2010 at 3:24 pm
FP, you know who you are. Nice!
January 2nd, 2010 at 3:28 pm
Can you imagine Ted Hendricks texting and kissing dick butkis azzzz…………?
January 2nd, 2010 at 3:35 pm
What should we put the over/under on how many carries Bush gets tomorrow? 13
Charlie Frye passing yards? 115
McFadden rushing yards? 22
Which will be more, Raiders combined total FG’s and TD’s, or Ravens winning margin?
January 2nd, 2010 at 3:48 pm
Vegas, Bush gets 18 carries 1 touchdown!
Charlie passes for 212 yards!
McFadden rushes for 48 yards!
January 2nd, 2010 at 3:53 pm
# Raider O Says:
January 1st, 2010 at 9:12 am
I think McClain and Suh are the best 2 players in this draft. And I want one of them! I like McClain more than Suh! 6′4 255 and runs a sub 4.6
^^^^^^^^^
If the Raiders get a top 8-10 pick…..they need to take MLB Rolando McClain if the dumb old man or whoever the coach and hopefully new GM aren’t comfortable with whichever OT is there.
McClain is a BEAST and can the Raiders version of Patrick Willis. The Raiders defense needs a Patrick Willis type in the middle to take the place of Morrison and maybe compete with Brown. McClain will be better than Ricky Brown. Another option should be a BEAST RDE like Derrick Morgan or Everson Griffen.
2nd round should be DT Dan Williams or Odrick from Penn St or Austin from North Carolina.
A BIG freakin NOOOOOOO….to drafting a freakin CB with that top 8-10 pick….that would be a waste of a freakin pick! Enough is enough with the dumb old man taking CB’s in the first round!
January 2nd, 2010 at 3:58 pm
If Al Davis picks CB Joe Haden with that top 8-10 pick…..someone needs to put that dumb old stubborn delusional man out of his misery!
January 2nd, 2010 at 3:59 pm
McClain will be better than Ricky Brown?? LOL! I should hope so considering Ricky Brown sux fat calk. Ricky Brown is a fringe NFL player at best and I imagine any team drafting a LB in Rd 1 isnt comparing em to Ricky Freakn Brown
January 2nd, 2010 at 4:00 pm
# Florida Pete Says:
January 2nd, 2010 at 3:22 pm
dear mr strap-on… (you know who you are)…
i’ll read anything that is short and to the point…
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So, in other words, either you’re a sorry liar, or you’re just stupid.
See, moron, when you state you NEVER reply to someone, then IMMEDIATELY reply to that person, you’re basically dumber than cotton.
As far as the longer posts? Take your freaking finger off your screen as you read..see if that helps.
January 2nd, 2010 at 4:07 pm
Hey, Richochet the “fruit loop” returns. Hello poodle, peanut, how is ya? I says use gots a lil’ pecker and youse angry for it./
January 2nd, 2010 at 4:08 pm
A hummingbirds gots a bigger pecker than Richochet. What a shame. His girlfriend asked him who was he gonna please with dat? Richochet says, me self!
January 2nd, 2010 at 4:10 pm
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January 2nd, 2010 at 4:13 pm
Florida Pete,
you are correct to disregard a certain denizen of this board who suffers from aphrasia.
January 2nd, 2010 at 4:14 pm
Captain black,
You spell and write REALLY well!! LMFAO!!
January 2nd, 2010 at 4:19 pm
Tanks, Dude
January 2nd, 2010 at 4:21 pm
Wese all dumb compars wif Richochet
January 2nd, 2010 at 4:23 pm
The biggest weakness of this team has been stopping the run over the past 6-7 years.
The first round pick has to address that. Whether it is Mt. Cody, Mclain or Spikes or whoever it is, the focus most be to improve our front 7.
We have one 2nd, two 3rd’s, one 4th and two 5th’s.
We can do a lot of trading with that and moving up and down throughout the draft weekend.
But I hate to tell you Dknight, a DB will be taken in the first 3 rounds, and don’t be suprised if Al trades up to get one in the 2nd round.
January 2nd, 2010 at 4:27 pm
Vegas, we need a big run stuffing DT. I say we use Richochet’s nose.
January 2nd, 2010 at 4:27 pm
Vegas,
I thought it was already settled that the fastest guy is a cousin of the gun-totin’ Gilbert Arenas – a KR/CB. So, he’s first, then you may address the rest of the draft.
January 2nd, 2010 at 4:32 pm
Dude, Richochet is a bad guy. His posts need modrating. Everybody hates him.
January 2nd, 2010 at 4:42 pm
LOL, you know it Lonetree.
I like Arenas a lot though. Maybe Al will trade up into the late first to get him. That may make people even more made, trading up and giving up picks to get a DB.
January 2nd, 2010 at 4:50 pm
Most of the stuff Al Davis does, I can kind of understand where he’s coming from, can give him the benefit of the doubt. That’s not to say I think he’s always right, but, like I say, I support his right to do what he wants to do, everyone else be damned. But this latest Gruden/Rickey’s thing? What a sad, old man. A fool. A clown. You have no idea how much it hurts me to say that.
January 2nd, 2010 at 4:50 pm
Hell, just get it over with and sign Usain Bolt. Send him long on every play and heave it as far as possible. Safeties will be lining up 30 yards off the line of scrimmage just to keep up.
And even if the young man has never even seen an American football he’ll still get as many grabs and TDs as the current WRs on the roster.
Plus you get that Jamaiican Smoking Section up on Mount Davis.
January 2nd, 2010 at 5:01 pm
I see Dude and his girlfriend ricko are here.
January 2nd, 2010 at 5:02 pm
Vegas-what is the play tomorrow. Raiders +10.5?
January 2nd, 2010 at 5:29 pm
need to recruit this guy
http://www.gazette.com/sports/greg-91670-ramsey-rodriguez.html
the play is plus 450 on the money line
January 2nd, 2010 at 5:31 pm
10.5
On the strip they had a moneyline play.
+500
January 2nd, 2010 at 5:34 pm
offshore last week 450, 500 is a value bet lol
January 2nd, 2010 at 5:37 pm
I saw it at the Mandalay Bay +500 on New Years, but they didn’t have a moneyline at the Suncoast today.
I was thinking of parlaying the Raiders and the Bengals on the moneyline. +500 and +425, lol
I think it would have paid close to 25 to 1, but I didn’t pull the trigger.
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January 2nd, 2010 at 5:44 pm
I used to use sportsinteraction, but getting payment was always iffy. I always got my money, but one time it took over 3 weeks.
January 2nd, 2010 at 5:46 pm
sportsbook.com, very good, timely, though they never got a money line on the steeler game, had they, i would really have had a good raider betting year, not just spectacular, uber good
January 2nd, 2010 at 5:48 pm
i’m so lazy, could stop at green valley station every morning on way to work, pass right by, guess it’s symptomatic of what’s wrong with our country
January 2nd, 2010 at 5:51 pm
I find it slightly ironic that I just renewed my drivers license online with a beer in my hand and pretty frickin lit to boot!
Now that’s old school fellas!
Oh yeah, Go Raiders!
January 2nd, 2010 at 5:54 pm
I use to work right over the 215 from the GVR. Spent many a lunch time there.
NFL is probably my worst sport betting wise, with baseball easily my best. I have had an awful year in the NFL. Bowl season has been going pretty good, had some good money on Florida last night.
I like TCU a lot, but I wish it wasn’t -7.5 . That half point might screw me.
January 2nd, 2010 at 5:55 pm
i was driving to dana point ca to my boat from vegas, just past barstow, sipping a beer, going 85, talking on my cell phone and flicking a cig out the window, broke four laws at one time, i challenge you to one up. lol, oh by the way wide right overtime
January 2nd, 2010 at 5:57 pm
risk reward says never bet if you’re emotion losing is greater than you’re emotion of winning, i.e., losing a 2 to 5 vs. winning a 10 to 1. that of course unless you are a professional
January 2nd, 2010 at 6:01 pm
Interesting to see what Texas Tech looks like here soon.
Cincy, which also lost their coach, looked as flat as could be.
I think the Red Raiders come out a lot more inspired.
January 2nd, 2010 at 6:05 pm
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January 2nd, 2010 at 6:12 pm
richochet, you not out there to correct my errors
January 2nd, 2010 at 6:12 pm
DKnight, I was thinking today we should draft McClain.
That would shore up our run defense and give us a defensive leader.
January 2nd, 2010 at 7:20 pm
“One only needs to look at the nearly $82 million in guaranteed money surrendered to Oakland’s past three first-round picks (JaMarcus Russell(notes), Darren McFadden(notes) and Darrius Heyward-Bey(notes)) to understand why the trend is so troubling. The Raiders are to blame for their own mess, but they are damaging the system as well. Put a wage scale in place and shorten all rookie contracts to four years. By then, teams will have a much clearer picture of what they are paying for.”
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Al’s not only ruining the Raiders, now he’s f’ing the League.
THAT part I do like…
January 2nd, 2010 at 7:20 pm
http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news;_ylt=AgHgCYVMOqnT1A9.laBrKaxDubYF?slug=cr-2010resolutions123109&prov=yhoo&type=lgns
Sorry, heres the linky
January 2nd, 2010 at 7:30 pm
M Lonetree Says:
January 2nd, 2010 at 4:50 pm
Hell, just get it over with and sign Usain Bolt. Send him long on every play and heave it as far as possible. Safeties will be lining up 30 yards off the line of scrimmage just to keep up.
And even if the young man has never even seen an American football he’ll still get as many grabs and TDs as the current WRs on the roster.
Plus you get that Jamaiican Smoking Section up on Mount Davis.
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SHHHH! Davis might near you! He’ll make Bolt
January 2nd, 2010 at 7:43 pm
# Nnamdi21 Says:
January 2nd, 2010 at 7:20 pm
“One only needs to look at the nearly $82 million in guaranteed money surrendered to Oakland’s past three first-round picks (JaMarcus Russell(notes), Darren McFadden(notes) and Darrius Heyward-Bey(notes)) to understand why the trend is so troubling. The Raiders are to blame for their own mess, but they are damaging the system as well. Put a wage scale in place and shorten all rookie contracts to four years. By then, teams will have a much clearer picture of what they are paying for.”
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Al’s not only ruining the Raiders, now he’s f’ing the League.
THAT part I do like…
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See?
“Al’s f’ing the league. I like that”
YOU DUMBASS. HE’S NOT “F***ING THE LEAGUE..his stupid money, that is bringing the man to having to sell off part of the team, is affecting others salaries. Leave it to you to get confused.
OH..THAT’S RIGHT..you’re the one who literally cried when JR was benched, and sat here one game, throwing a tantrum that “CABLE SET JR UP..HE DID..HE DIIIIIIDDDDDDD!!”
Classic meltdown..I loved it
I’ve come to the conclusion that most of you have been 86ed from most raider boards for saying stupid comments..and somehow ended up here.
I mean, I post on other boards, but it seems that it’s almost exclusive that most of the silly head up ass comments are posted on this blog.
The downfall of not having to actually register..the riffraff, degenerates, and ’slow’ posters all gravitate here.
It’s almost as if you guys need me to just straighten you guys out.
Seriously.
Other teams read you guys, and immediately label Raider fans as retarded.
I, for one, don’t think you’re retarded.
Stupid? Yes.
Slow? Oh hell yes.
Dumber than cotton? Even dumber.
Wait..maybe you guys…actually….are….
never mind.
January 2nd, 2010 at 7:48 pm
Ricochet.
Yawn…I nothing you.
January 2nd, 2010 at 8:47 pm
We sign C. Hampton and Carlos Rogers, then draft Spikes. D is looking much better, with some draft picks to clean up the O line and depth.
January 2nd, 2010 at 9:42 pm
Jerry,
Would you at least give us an honest crowd estimate tomorrow?
January 2nd, 2010 at 10:01 pm
Kell, the Raiders staff will all be in attendance!
January 2nd, 2010 at 10:04 pm
Nite all, 1:03 and have to be up at 5:30 am for work..
January 2nd, 2010 at 11:38 pm
http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/Wilson-Ravens-preparing-for-Raiders-tactics.html
“Raiders Tactics”
Aaron Wilson never even saw the game.
The blogger was right. This guy pretends to be an “Award winning journalist”. LIAR. He’s a Homer with out a clue.
Oaklands gotten rat f-cked all season starting GAME ONE.
I think its GOOD that the Raiders are at least showing SOME passion.
Alot of those flags were complete BS. Tony Stewarts $25,000 for swiping that refs hands of him? what a crock…
I’d be like “Get your f’in hands off me!” too. Dirt bag refs.
Oh well…its always been that way for the Silver and Black. They just need to overcome…
January 2nd, 2010 at 11:43 pm
Fix the O line in 2010!
January 2nd, 2010 at 11:48 pm
Interesting Monte Poole column about how the Raiders should go after Mike Leach on the IBA Raiders home page. I actually floated the idea in here the day he got fired.
It’d be a real gamble for sure. Exotic college offenses never seem to work in the pros. Leach would almost surely have to be willing to tweak his system and adapt to the athleticism of pro defenses. But if he’s willing to do that, I see no reason he can’t be tremendously successful in the NFL. A brilliant strategist will be successful on any level — high school, college, pros — if he’s willing to adapt and enjoys new challenges. But if he’s someone who stubbornly hangs his hat on his own style or is too lazy to revise his own playbook, then he’s probably doomed to fail.
I think he shoots to the top tier of the list of interesting Raiders coaching candidates for 2010 though.
January 3rd, 2010 at 12:10 am
Well….well the annual Raider top 8-10 pick discussion. Great….just great….we have to look forward to Al Davis making another stupid top 10 pick again?? Oh crap! LOL
The old man needs to hire a freakin REAL GM/Personnel Man to run the draft and a REAL Head Coach to turn the freakin ship around…..otherwise the team will continue to SUCK!
If the old man drafts a CB like Joe Haden or S like Mays with that top 8-10 pick…someone needs to seriously put the old looney delusional man out of his misery!
Since Suh and McCoy will be gone….the pick needs to a BEAST MLB like Rolando McClain or a BEAST DE like Derrick Morgan or one of the stud OT prospects Okung, Williams or Campbell.
McClain is better than Ricky Brown and is bigger, faster and stronger against the run than Morrison. Morgan can be plugged right in at the RDE spot and cause havoc right away and will allow Seymour to move back inside most of the time. Anyone of those OT prospects will be able to start right away at the RT spot or compete with Henderson at the LT spot.
Ellis will be battling out with the young incumbent starter Shaunessey for the LDE position. T Scott is the new elephant WLB who is made to cause havoc and make plays standing up 80% of the time and at times playing as a down DE to confuse opposing O-Lines. Howard will remain at the SAM position. New fresh blood and energy is needed at the MIKE spot and Rolando McClain has the speed, size, strength, intensity and athleticism to take over that MIKE spot for the Raiders. He can be their Patrick Willis.
January 3rd, 2010 at 12:15 am
The other player that should be on the draft target list that I forgot to mention is Everson Griffen. His game reminds of Dwight Freeneys style.
January 3rd, 2010 at 1:46 am
I keep seeing these posts “Gruden didn’t want to be a Raider”. That’s Bull $hit. He would’ve stayed happily if the boss didn’t try to screw him with the changes in the contract offered.
Why do we have to kill everyone who did anything good for us. First we try to kick Gannon out and keep him away from the Collisium. Then we just do this for no reason whatsoever.
God. It’s nutz.
January 3rd, 2010 at 2:02 am
Chris in NY， I saw Bill Williamson talking about Mike Leach as well. At first I was biased against him just cuz hes so damn ugly, but I watched his interview with Rece Davis and came away with the impression that Craig James’ kid is just a punk b*tch who was being taught a lesson. This is after watching the craig James interview too. I would love to see Cable go back down to OL coach and give Leach a shot at HC, that or have him take OC. Beggars can’t be choosers though and Leach only mentioned other college teams when talking about whats next, but I’m sure he’d be intrigued.
Only thing, with any good idea around here is it has to test the crazy al test, and a spread offense doesn’t fit the pound the rock and bomb it deep offense one bit…on we drudge.
January 3rd, 2010 at 2:04 am
What about hiring Mike Leach as O-Coordinator….
January 3rd, 2010 at 4:41 am
After watching Northwestern University’s Three Stooges attempt at a fumblerooski on 4th down in overtime against Auburn
and
Seeing Jim Zorn’s mind-boggling most ill-conceived fake FG play ever considered
it made me sad to think that
Cable’s idea to pitch the ball to SeaBass on 4th and 9 probably won’t even make “honorable mention” for idiocy if all of this keeps up.
“You can’t fix stupid”
January 3rd, 2010 at 5:23 am
Good Morning NATION!!!!
January 3rd, 2010 at 5:32 am
Well its finally the last game of the season.Lots of ups and downs,downs mostly.
Gradkowski came in and gave the whole Nation HOPE! Hope has been in short supply ’round here lately.
Hope we are healthy next year.No matter what anyone thinks if your O-line is injured and a work in progress,I dont care if you have Bush or Tinker-Bell back there you are not going to run the ball.
Which brings me to the JUMBO-Line! Another reason 4 hope
But the saddest part to me wasnt the treachery of #2….the saddest part was….
WE WAS GASHED….GASHED I SAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Please AL,lets get that STINKING-BREATH MLB and that FUGGLY DT and a couple a spares while you’re at it =)
January 3rd, 2010 at 6:03 am
i don’t want cable coaching my line…
’cause i hate the ZBS…
January 3rd, 2010 at 6:53 am
So if we get blown out today will the Cable lovers go or will they stay win or lose I wanna real HC not a OL guy pretending to be HC . GO RAIDERS!!!!!!!!!!
January 3rd, 2010 at 6:59 am
Well then NMF….who is your guy? name please
January 3rd, 2010 at 6:59 am
and why,sorry
January 3rd, 2010 at 7:07 am
The end of another garbage product lol
January 3rd, 2010 at 7:08 am
Pete I hate that ZBS crap too
We need power blocking again
January 3rd, 2010 at 7:09 am
Dont worry guys when Jim Fassel is the coach everything will be a-ok lol
January 3rd, 2010 at 7:11 am
The Raiders need a fat run stuffer like Terrence Cody very bad
January 3rd, 2010 at 7:12 am
Anyways was stopping by to say whtas up and stuff………..gotta get ready the last tailgate to another awful year lol….im sure 2010 will be the same
January 3rd, 2010 at 7:17 am
Good morning AM crew…
and a Happy New Year!!!
January 3rd, 2010 at 7:19 am
Ok….allow me.
When Cable was O-line coach,in no time at all he established himself by producing a #6 and #10 rushing attack.For him 2 just come in and do that at the same time Kiffin came in is a sure sign that even tho I dont like the ZBS,Cable can get things done on the ground.Then pandemonium strikes and an O-line coach is elevated to a HC.
New DC in Marshall and new coaches’everywhere.Young players on the roster.O-line injured all year.
Even tho our record doesnt show it,for all the adversity and EVERYTHING ELSE,I believe we are headed in the right direction.Just have to wait and see what the draft brings and F/A also.
Turning around an ORG. is like turning around an ocean-liner.We are turning,but we are young
Win or lose,blow-out or close,ya gotta give Cable 1 more year at least….or its back 2 square 1
January 3rd, 2010 at 7:20 am
Happy New Year B and Neilb!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
January 3rd, 2010 at 7:21 am
….and to you 4eva!
January 3rd, 2010 at 7:24 am
Ref:Cable.
I’m not that happy with Cable but the thought of yet another new Coach and coaching staff fills me with dread.
Keeping Cable isn’t ideal but it’s the lesser of two evils.
January 3rd, 2010 at 7:36 am
Saw some people mentioned Mike Leach as a coach.
I can’t stand the guy, his own hand-picked training staff basically came out yesterday and said this guy is lying and we advised against what he did.
Most of the players stood up for the kid, and of course they won without him last night.
Leach is a guy known for being a jerk, known for losing to good teams and running up the score against bad teams (His record against Texas, Oklahoma and in Bowl Games is like 4-18).
Mike Leach and Al Davis would not get along.
January 3rd, 2010 at 7:41 am
A Happy New Year to All in the Raider Nation!
Fire Cable!
Cut JaLoser!
Go Lakers!
January 3rd, 2010 at 7:42 am
Where is Richochet?
January 3rd, 2010 at 7:42 am
Vegas…
Never heard of this Leach bloke but if he’s a college coach I wouldn’t have anything to do with him anyway.
January 3rd, 2010 at 7:45 am
I would give Cable a chance again next year. Most of my disagreement goes on playing Russell and DHB too long, but it looks like he is being given a bit more freedom along that line.
The only BIG disagreement I have is the misutilization of BUSH. Barely giving him any carries even when he’s the ‘hot hand’ or allowing the ‘game’ to dictate what he does. But with a new O’Coordinator brought in and Cable getting more time to being a Head Coach instead of O-Line Coach, Offensive Coordinator and Head Coach I think we’d do okay.
Consistency isn’t something we’ve tried lately. Can’t be worse than we’ve had the last few years of changing coaches every 1-2 years.
January 3rd, 2010 at 7:54 am
I wonder if Cable would support getting an OC and removing the play-calling duties from him.
I know he doesn’t have the final say, but if it is going to piss him off and he is going to get butt-hurt than you just need to fire him.
Whatever the scenario is, Cable cannot be calling plays next year. He doesn’t put his players in the best position to succeed (think “4 verticals”, Darren up the middle, no runs from the 2, and the fact that Cable seems to throw the ball everytime it is 3rd and 3 or more).
January 3rd, 2010 at 7:55 am
Maverick…
Agreed.Also we need to look at how we are using Dmac.We need a game plan that plays to his strengths.
January 3rd, 2010 at 7:57 am
4eva,
I’m not the biggest Cable supporter, I am still kinda “on the fence” with him, but I do agree with you that I think he should get one year sans Jamarcus to see what he can do.
Not real fair to get a starting HC gig and be saddled with the laziest, lowest football IQ QB in the league.
January 3rd, 2010 at 7:57 am
Anyone know where to watch the game online?
January 3rd, 2010 at 8:02 am
Yeah, I agree. Dmac has been better this year than last year (albiet not a lot better, but did improve). He did a lot better on outside runs and where he was slid into position as a WR. I’d say utilize that more, and more…but Bush should never have a game with less than 15 carries in my opinion – I don’t care the circumstances unless he’s hurt.
January 3rd, 2010 at 8:07 am
=)
January 3rd, 2010 at 8:10 am
Maverick…
I’d run Bush till he droped ! We should look at all the different ways that the Vikes got Harvin the ball and copy some of them for Dmac.
….and I’ll keep saying it till I’m proved wrong ! Dmac in the wildcat with Bush in at RB.
January 3rd, 2010 at 8:13 am
http://www.atdhe.net/
Try this one Johnnie.If it doesn’t work check back here-someone will post one that does.
January 3rd, 2010 at 8:16 am
neilb Says:
January 3rd, 2010 at 8:10 am
Maverick…
I’d run Bush till he droped
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Thats usually after 1 run hahahahahaaaaahahaahahahahaha
January 3rd, 2010 at 8:18 am
LOL !!!!
We’re not talking ’bout Jordan!!
January 3rd, 2010 at 8:19 am
Good morning RAIDER NATION! Looking forward to the game today-finally a televised game in the LA area!
Hopefully the “Good RAIDERS” will show up today and knock ray lewis out of the playoffs!
GO RAIDERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
January 3rd, 2010 at 8:21 am
HAPPY NEW YEAR NATION
GO RAIDERS
I HOPE WE WIN EVEN IF IT MEANS THE DONKEYS GET IN
January 3rd, 2010 at 8:22 am
# neilb Says:
January 3rd, 2010 at 8:10 am
Maverick…
I’d run Bush till he droped ! We should look at all the different ways that the Vikes got Harvin the ball and copy some of them for Dmac.
….and I’ll keep saying it till I’m proved wrong ! Dmac in the wildcat with Bush in at RB.
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I’m all for it. Run him till he needs a breather (as others joke about) and then let Dmac or Fargas run one or two and then get Bush back in.
January 3rd, 2010 at 8:23 am
The Raiders actually traded up that year to take tight end Rickey Dudley at No. 9. Dudley was the polar opposite of Lewis, a spectacular physical specimen and an earnest worker whose true passion was for basketball.
Hard to fault the Raiders for that.
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Hard to fault the Raiders for that?
How could you not fault them for that?
They reached for an athlete whose heart was not in it (sound familiar?).
Instead of staying where they were and taking the best FOOTBALL PLAYER, crazy Al kept up with his delusions of grandeur and it cost the Raiders once again.
For those who don’t recall him, he had hands only slightly better than DHB. He couldn’t catch a cold at the north pole. But he was fast…
January 3rd, 2010 at 8:26 am
Yeah, I think our best 1st round pick is next year’s (the one we traded). I’d say do the same this year. If we can get someone like Moss again let’s do it! Hell it was a good move to get him.
January 3rd, 2010 at 8:32 am
Al selects athletes with potential in the 1st round instead of football players. Can you imagine he selected DHB number one because he has 4.3 speed. Help me.
January 3rd, 2010 at 8:33 am
Time for me to go.The West Ham/Arsenal games on…
Back tomorrow hopefully talking ’bout a great Raider win.
Later…
January 3rd, 2010 at 8:38 am
i don’t want a college coach…
if you look at the records of college coaches that went into the NFL…
it ain’t pretty…
need an NFL O or D coordinator that is ready to step up…
or a retread HC, that is ready for his 2nd chance…
January 3rd, 2010 at 8:38 am
# CaptainBlack Says:
January 3rd, 2010 at 8:32 am
Al selects athletes with potential in the 1st round instead of football players. Can you imagine he selected DHB number one because he has 4.3 speed. Help me.
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Not even based on Potential – based soley on numbers. I would never had said that DHB’s potential was higher than Crabtree’s etc. Maybe if he was raw and had the potential to improve, but what was being said was that he was already playing in a “pro offense” and so the learning curve would be less and he was already familiar blah blah blah blah.
Can’t catch. Doesn’t play fast. Not worth much. Fast 40 time without pads doesn’t mean that much.
January 3rd, 2010 at 8:41 am
CaptainBlack,
The craziest part about drafting DHB was when Cable said they thought they were going to have to move up to get him. Huh???
Nobody had him going in the top 10, and he thought they had to move up to draft him.
Al selects players that fit the Raider’s mould. Yet, those players has never been the most productive players.
WR- 1) Brown
2)Biletnikoff
3)Branch
4)Rice
TE 1)Casper
2)Cristensen
3)Chester
4)Miller
Only Branch and Chester were true burners. Brown was in college but then blew out his knee.
The Raider idea of speed hasn’t worked since the early 70’s.
Gimme PLAYERS…
January 3rd, 2010 at 8:46 am
Exactly.
January 3rd, 2010 at 8:49 am
Freddy B was a possession receiver with no speed. He was crafty and ran excellent routes.
January 3rd, 2010 at 8:50 am
raiderzmaverick Says:
January 3rd, 2010 at 8:26 am
Yeah, I think our best 1st round pick is next year’s (the one we traded). I’d say do the same this year. If we can get someone like Moss again let’s do it! Hell it was a good move to get him.
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I think trading for Moss wasn’t that bad in the end.
LB Napoleon Harrison was marginal and the first round pick? The Vikes used that to draft WR Troy Williamson at #7. He was that year’s DHB, and has done very little in the NFL.
Had the Raiders not traded for Moss and kept the pick, more than likely they would have selected Williamson too.
So, all in all, that trade was pretty much nothing for nothing.
January 3rd, 2010 at 8:51 am
Branch was fast and quick.
January 3rd, 2010 at 8:52 am
I would take quick over fast every day of the week.
Napoleon Kaufman…
January 3rd, 2010 at 9:12 am
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4792471
January 3rd, 2010 at 9:19 am
Oh yes, Monday. That’s when Cable said the Raiders would be in the playoffs next week if not for Russell’s below-average play.
Davis was livid about Cable’s comments, according to three anonymous sources within the organization.
Absolutely livid.
He was already weighing a fifth coaching change in seven years before Monday. The reasons: Russell’s stunted development, a Cable-driven offense with 16 touchdowns in 15 games, the entire Randy Hanson saga and assault allegations.
One high-ranking official called Monday’s news conference “Kiffin-esque,” saying Cable was warned beforehand not to say anything much. He surmised Davis may now consider firing Cable “with cause,” just as he did former coach Lane Kiffin last year.
At the very least, Davis is prepared to fire Cable and blame him for Russell’s poor play. Russell’s 47.8 percent completion rate and 49.6 passer rating remain league lows, and he’s about to become the first qualifying quarterback with a sub-50.0 rating since Ryan Leaf and two others in 1998.
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Sorry fellas …
Cable is outta here!
January 3rd, 2010 at 9:24 am
Fire Cable!!
No More ZBS!
Draft R McClain in the 1st, and Carlos Dunlap in the 2nd, and play Seymour inside!
Hire a real Coach!!
Draft OL and CB after the 1st 2 picks!!
Cut Walker, Green, Cooper, Warren, Fargas, and TK if he doesn’t restructure!!
It’s not Rocket Science!!
January 3rd, 2010 at 9:31 am
looking over the list of potential head coaches…
i will vote for the guy the Davis will not select…
this guy will ascend… and he will do very well…
no matter where he goes…
i nominate Winston Moss…
January 3rd, 2010 at 9:32 am
vegas raider Says:
January 3rd, 2010 at 7:57 am
4eva,
I’m not the biggest Cable supporter, I am still kinda “on the fence” with him, but I do agree with you that I think he should get one year sans Jamarcus to see what he can do.
Not real fair to get a starting HC gig and be saddled with the laziest, lowest football IQ QB in the league.
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It is absolutely fair! Tom Cable was hired as head coach of this team. JaDavis Russell was part of that team. If JaDavis was so out of shape (which he was), behind on his studies (which he was), incapable of executing the offense (which he was)….then its up to the coach to bench JaDavis and go to the freekn Owner and tell him what’s up.
Cable should be fired for being the puppet that he is. Plus his gross misuse of Michael Bush contributed just as much to this team’s failures as JaDavis’ laziness and ineptness.
Why not go smashmouth and run the ball if you know that JaDavis is so incompetent.
Tired of the excuses as if JaDavis playing was done in a vacuum. Or the league or some higher power forced the Raiders to play JaDavis Russell..
And spare me the contract b.S…..if the guy doesn’t get it…then paying him to lose makes no sense!
JaDavis and Cable should be sent on the road
Get me Jim Fassell, at least he’s been a head coach and has had some success. At least he understands offense.
January 3rd, 2010 at 9:32 am
Jhill, what are your sources?
January 3rd, 2010 at 9:35 am
My sources ????
LOL!
That from D White’s article this mng.
January 3rd, 2010 at 9:35 am
FP, I would not want a Singletary style HC in Oakland, if that is what Moss is.
January 3rd, 2010 at 9:36 am
I just dont know how in the world Cable gets blamed 4 #2 repeatedly throwing the ball in the dirt.And Cable has no control over anyone in the off-season.If a player comes to camp fat lazy and just dont plain give a sh!t….that one is on the player,imo
January 3rd, 2010 at 9:38 am
There is not ONE area of this team that you can point to as “doing well under Cable”. I think the fact that the Oline is without question the weakest unit on the team speaks VOLUMES as to why Cable should be fired.
January 3rd, 2010 at 9:39 am
do you have a link?
January 3rd, 2010 at 9:39 am
Like I said B4….I never saw Al make a tackle or miss one either,same as Cable.Ever hear of player responsibility?
January 3rd, 2010 at 9:41 am
4eva,
He gets blamed for it because he didn’t adjust. Where was the jumbo package the first 8 weeks of the season? Why didn’t we run the ball 45 times a game? Why was the plan (as Garcia told u EARLY in the season) to unleash the Jamarcus Russell-DHB show? We didn’t even practice running the ball (like Fargas told U EARLY in the season) because Cable was SO INTENT on forcing the passing game. Even last week, 45 throws?
January 3rd, 2010 at 9:42 am
4evaRaider Says:
January 3rd, 2010 at 9:36 am
I just dont know how in the world Cable gets blamed 4 #2 repeatedly throwing the ball in the dirt.And Cable has no control over anyone in the off-season.If a player comes to camp fat lazy and just dont plain give a sh!t….that one is on the player,imo
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okay… you’re a head coach and you are saddled with a useless quarterback… and ownership says you must play him… understandable…
but unless that owner is calling down the plays from his crypt in the sky… you are responsible for the play calling…
and the personnel…
so how does Cable explain that???
why would you be a pass happy team with a sloth at QB and two, count ‘em, two wide receivers???
January 3rd, 2010 at 9:45 am
D. White’s article is another example of Al trying to protect his legacy. Don’t say anything about how flucked up JaMarcus is and maybe the criticism will go away. WRONG! 4eva, I read you supported Cable, then wanted him fired, and now you support him again. Which is it, Dude?
January 3rd, 2010 at 9:45 am
Where is the resume that says it’s not on Cable?
Can you point to ANY success he’s had as a HC in his LIFE?
Yes, if #2 has played better, we could have had a better offense.
Yes, if DHB wasn’t forced to start we could have had a better offense.
Yes, if Gallery didn’t get hurt, Satele knew the offense, and weren’t stuck with Pear and Green then …
But most importantly, if the HEAD COACH would have had a plan more suited to our personell, then we would have been better too!
January 3rd, 2010 at 9:45 am
4evaRaider Says:
January 3rd, 2010 at 9:36 am
I just dont know how in the world Cable gets blamed 4 #2 repeatedly throwing the ball in the dirt.And Cable has no control over anyone in the off-season.If a player comes to camp fat lazy and just dont plain give a sh!t….that one is on the player,imo
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Who makes the decision on who plays and who sits the bench? Who job is it to design a game plan that works with the players on the field at their stage of development?
Someone decided to play JaDavis Russell when THEY KNEW he was overweight, skipping meetings, missing passes and plain not getting it! JaDavis didn’t put himself in the lineup.
And like JHill said, why not go smashmouth ala 2007? Why not run more 2 TE sets….why not more short easy passes…why not Bush 20x, DMAC 15x adn Fargas 10x or something like that.
No Cable forces JaDavis to play most of the season with him calling 4 verticals at the 10 yard line…and hardly uses the running game.
Get him out of here
January 3rd, 2010 at 9:46 am
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2010/01/03/SPA31BCJA9.DTL&feed=rss.raiders
January 3rd, 2010 at 9:47 am
4evaRaider Says:
January 3rd, 2010 at 9:36 am
I just dont know how in the world Cable gets blamed 4 #2 repeatedly throwing the ball in the dirt.And Cable has no control over anyone in the off-season.If a player comes to camp fat lazy and just dont plain give a sh!t….that one is on the player,imo
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4eva
Russell was out here all off-season. He’s got a house here, they had OTA’s QB School. etc
He didn’t just show up here the day before camp.
January 3rd, 2010 at 9:48 am
FP, I couldn’t have written that better, unless Richochet had written it.
January 3rd, 2010 at 9:48 am
get him outta there!!!
January 3rd, 2010 at 9:49 am
4eva,
I agree with Jhill, Pete, and SnB. lol
January 3rd, 2010 at 9:50 am
that may be KK but he showed up fat and out of shape and didnt open anything that resembled a play-book.If he did it would show a little….unless he’s stupid
January 3rd, 2010 at 9:51 am
CaptainBlack Says:
January 3rd, 2010 at 9:48 am
FP, I couldn’t have written that better, unless Richochet had written it.
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are you talking about strap-on???
yeah… he can spell…
um…
i’m outta good things to say about him…
anybody???
January 3rd, 2010 at 9:52 am
4eva, now you support Cable staying. Correct?
January 3rd, 2010 at 9:53 am
Yeah, Poodle, or is it puddles?
January 3rd, 2010 at 9:53 am
4eva
Russell was out here all off-season. He’s got a house here, they had OTA’s QB School. etc
He didn’t just show up here the day before camp.
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Exactly Kell!
It’s AMAZING how people forget that. I mean, the ONLY time he left Oakland was for his Uncle’s funeral and his Mom being sick. He was getting all the props from the local reporters and team. Walter was the one who was nowhere to be found. Where all this he wasn’t working propaganda came from half was through the season was proposterous.
January 3rd, 2010 at 9:56 am
So half the people think EVERYTHING is Al Davis’ fault and Cable’s fault.Poor lil sloth #2 weally needs tombody 2 teach him how to throw.
So all YOU PEOPLE say fire Cable…..
Next coach with 1.5 years under his belt isnt doing so good or up to YOU PEOPLES expectations then its fire this one and then again over and over and over again.Whatn is it that You People keep saying over and over and over again???????????????????
Doing the same thing over and over and you keep getting the same results??? Come on what do You People call that?
January 3rd, 2010 at 9:57 am
Just doing what Al does.
January 3rd, 2010 at 9:58 am
4eva,
I’d like to hear you make a case for Cable without using Russell at all. Point to ANYTHING else pro Cable that should give him another year.
I’m not seeing it.
January 3rd, 2010 at 9:58 am
4eva, you saying Al is insane?
January 3rd, 2010 at 9:58 am
How many HC since 2003?
January 3rd, 2010 at 10:00 am
Al selected and then fired the HCs, again and again, same results, so he is insane?
January 3rd, 2010 at 10:01 am
I didn’t think Kiffin should have been fired. Well at the end of it, I thought it was time to end the madness, but I agreed with pretty much everything he was doing.
Cable lost me when he pulled the Jamarcus Russell and said he’s been EXCEPTIONAL as a play caller this year. Up until then, I was all for bringing him back with an Asst HC/Offensive Coordinator.
January 3rd, 2010 at 10:03 am
Jhill I really cant because Cable is playing the hand he was dealt.He didnt draft none of these players….
Captn…..No I’m saying for all YOU PEOPLE that want to keep changing coaches EVERY SINGLE YEAR need to get a grip.As YOU PEOPLE can plainly see it dont work…but yet YOU PEOPLE want to keep changing the coach every single year.FUGGIN WAKE UP IF YOU HAVENT NOTICED IT DONT WORK D’OH
January 3rd, 2010 at 10:03 am
If Al fires Cable, and insists that the next HC “develop” Jamarcus, he might not find many takers for the job.
No viable NFL HC candidate would take the Raiders job, with or without Jamarcus. We already have the Steve Sarkisian’s of the world passing us up, throw in the insistance of developing Russell and the De La Salle coach might tell us thanks but no thanks.
And who cares where Jamarcus was during the offseason? He was in Oakland during the 3 day OTA’s, and completely blew off the last day.
Blaming CAble for the Russell failures might be my last straw. I might go KoolKell if that happens.
January 3rd, 2010 at 10:06 am
JHill,
If Cable gets a win today, it will be our best year in 7 years. I’m sure Cable would point at that.
Sad but true.
January 3rd, 2010 at 10:06 am
I never wrote Cable did anything to get fired, but you have! Why the ephiphany?
January 3rd, 2010 at 10:06 am
the point with this cable stuff is really simple.dude has lied thru the whole year. first he says russ was working harder than he has before but now he isnt. he claimed russ had 4 drops a piece with grads when it was 4 alone in the 1rst qtr against kc. then he says he wouldve stayed in the game if dhb and so on had caught those passes. he also hasnt used bush and dmc enuff or properly when in the game. the number of blowouts and the failure to win back 2 back games. the hanson fiasco was another blow for him. lets remember that gilbride was close to getting this job over him so its not like he didnt have alot to prove.this is HIS offense and ol he picked . none of our young guys have improved under him. russ has his issues he should be blamed for but this is beyond him. our defense is what has helped him look better than what that record is.
January 3rd, 2010 at 10:12 am
did u see how russ responded after the kc game when told by reporters he was “out of sorts” by cable? jhill said back then that whatever relationship they had was over and he was right. cable has sold out players to keep his job before like he did with curry last year. to say we would be a playoff team without #2 but say his playcalling was exceptional and average is garbage. why isnt dmc getting 20-25 touches a game? why isnt bush getting 20-25 carries a game?if #2 was the problem why did he wait so long? and why the hell was jlh not returning kicks instead of holland and g russ when jlh did it pretyy good last year? u would think kickoffs wouldve been a way to help jumpstart him to playing better after taking that hit opening night.
January 3rd, 2010 at 10:14 am
Armond,
JLH was not good returning kickoff’s last year. He caught that one in Baltimore by the sideline, casually went out of bounds at the 3, and hasn’t returned a kickoff since.
January 3rd, 2010 at 10:15 am
7 years 11 plus losses.
7 games blacked out.
Next year 8 years 11 plus losses.
8 games blacked out.
Getting rid of or keeping Cable won’t change that.
Regardless, Cable is arguably one of the, if not THE worst HC’s in the NFL, probably worst of the decade.
Again..who was worse?
Who has been so clueless?
And..I’ll ask the question no one can answer..WHAT THINGS DID CABLE DO WELL THIS YEAR??
Adios, wife beater.
January 3rd, 2010 at 10:17 am
All I am saying is….If Al wants 2 fire Cable,I hope he does it IMMEDIATLY and not months down the road…..We just gonna keep spinning our tires….
For all You People that want Cable fired after 1.5 years…I hope your bosses fire your azz after you get a promotion a year later
January 3rd, 2010 at 10:17 am
# CaptainBlack Says:
January 3rd, 2010 at 9:32 am
Jhill, what are your sources?
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LMFAO..Jhill says Cable is gone, and to YOU that means ‘OMG..HE HAS SOURCES…HE HAAAAAAAAAAS SOUUUUURRRRCES”?
Damn dude..no wonder you changed your name.
Which YOU’LL DO AGAIN..LIKELY VERY SOON.
When you get labeled as being “slow” it leads to many name changes..how many is this now for you?
January 3rd, 2010 at 10:18 am
Cable INHERITED THIS MESS
January 3rd, 2010 at 10:20 am
Guarantee you that Cable has a lot more respect and support in the locker room than Jamarcus Russell does.
You fire Cable, scapegoat him for Russell’s “issues”, and than insist on Russell starting next year and we will be lucky to win 3 games.
January 3rd, 2010 at 10:20 am
4eva, if the coach is no good why wouldn’t you want a change? You know HCs in Oakland get fired often because Al does not hire quality coaches. Al hires a HC he can control. So it is reasonable that the HC in Oakland gets fired often.
January 3rd, 2010 at 10:22 am
Fellas, for me ,a tough call on Cable returning.Some of y ou say he goes,some put the fault with JRuss.It is much easier for me to Blame Al,7 years of the Same crap.Now its taken ME seven years to get here.A Raider ticket rep called me w/ some deals for next year,I told her that the DAY AL hires a GM is when I pay for season tickets/2010,if not,Im done
January 3rd, 2010 at 10:23 am
4eva, who did Cable inherit this mess from?
January 3rd, 2010 at 10:24 am
# 4evaRaider Says:
January 3rd, 2010 at 10:17 am
All I am saying is….If Al wants 2 fire Cable,I hope he does it IMMEDIATLY and not months down the road…..We just gonna keep spinning our tires….
RICHOCHET: MONTH’S DOWN THE ROAD?? Months? lol..you’re so new at this, aren’t you?
Yeah, 4evaSlow..that’s just how it happens.
Wait until everyone else has been hired, where everyone else is on vacation..THEN remember you forgot to do something.
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For all You People that want Cable fired after 1.5 years…I hope your bosses fire your azz after you get a promotion a year later
RICHOCHET. If those people was the worst at their position, beat their wifes, beat up on employees, and proved they were as dumb as a log, yeah, they should be fired as well.
You wouldn’t know that.
you don’t work.
Your challenge of the day is what laundry soap to use.
January 3rd, 2010 at 10:25 am
Captn….I dont know 4 positive Cable is no good.He appears terrible when #2sloth is in there,and looks like a genius when Gradkowski is in there
January 3rd, 2010 at 10:26 am
I agree with you 4eva. But, I also do put some of the blame on Cable. I think though it more lies in needing an Offensive Coordinator. He could have come up with much better game plans, but that’s something normally an O-Coordinator does.
He seemed to like smashmouth football as an O-Line coach, and that’s the reason to do the zone blocking scheme. So, he went away from what he believed in and it created a horrible result (especially with bad QBs in there to throw it way too many times and not enough running).
January 3rd, 2010 at 10:27 am
Unless you are Richochet, grown men will not be bullied by their boss, and wont drop to their knees when they try, unless it is Richochet, he will swallow.
January 3rd, 2010 at 10:27 am
Blaming CAble for the Russell failures might be my last straw. I might go KoolKell if that happens
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Move over Vegas,I’ll be next to ya lol
January 3rd, 2010 at 10:27 am
Gary Russell has a higher kickoff return average than Jeremy Maclin.
Bet you wouldn’t have thought that, although Maclin only has 6 returns for a measly 17 yard average.
January 3rd, 2010 at 10:28 am
3 KoolKells to terrorize the WORLDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
January 3rd, 2010 at 10:29 am
That’s the way to use you noggin, Richochet.
January 3rd, 2010 at 10:30 am
And just which laundry soap do you prefer Richochet?
January 3rd, 2010 at 10:31 am
4eva, Richochet likes it warm and creamy, just like his mammie.
January 3rd, 2010 at 10:31 am
Maverick….believe me I think there is plenty of blame to go around.
January 3rd, 2010 at 10:32 am
Moron, why did you change your name to capblack?
January 3rd, 2010 at 10:33 am
Sumptin tells me Richochet is cutin’ and pastin’.
January 3rd, 2010 at 10:34 am
We gotta work through this.If we keep firing the coach,well then we will continue down this path…..
OOOOOHH I get it…..You People like the mess we are in so of course YOU PEOPLE want to continue this way.I see
January 3rd, 2010 at 10:34 am
I just took issue with the statement that Russell just showed up fat all of a sudden. He was here the whole off-season.
So far as Cable is concerned, I’m ambilivent at this point.
Though he insisted on K Harris last year, and Fargas this year.
January 3rd, 2010 at 10:35 am
Plunketthead is Richochet’s alias! Nice. But I will talk to you although nobody else will.
January 3rd, 2010 at 10:35 am
ok
January 3rd, 2010 at 10:38 am
KK you wrote “ambilivent.” Watch out for the Richochet.
January 3rd, 2010 at 10:38 am
lol moron
January 3rd, 2010 at 10:39 am
Besides Sparano and only last year,has ANY coach come in and turned around a franchise in 1,5 years?
January 3rd, 2010 at 10:39 am
Didn’t Fargas not get his first carry until week 3 or so? And now he isn’t playing the last 3 games.
He has missed half the season almost, and was a spark for a game or two. I thought he was our most effective back for a couple of games (Steelers and Eagles).
I don’t place anywhere near the same amount of blame on Cable for Fargas as I do for Kwame Harris and his play-calling.
January 3rd, 2010 at 10:41 am
vegas jlh was pretty good at returns last year. he averaged around 26 a return for a minute. i do remeber that play in baltimore last year but that was 1 play. i didnt say he was great but better. as for russ he is what he is until he wants to be better. alot of u hate the guy and get very ignorant by sayin u want to see him get hurt. i want him to get better but also dont want him handed anything. im blaming cable for cable and that was mentioned in my post and previous posts.i could careless about maclin kickoff average cuz i was comparing him to jlh. why u guys give cable a pass is beyond me. like jhill said, take #2 out of it nobody has really progressed under him. that says alot more about him.
January 3rd, 2010 at 10:41 am
Vegas,
Russell was QB 3 of Cable’s 5 wins. Led game winning TD drives in 2 of those wins. I’m sure Al will point that out, lol!
January 3rd, 2010 at 10:42 am
Richochet Says:
January 3rd, 2010 at 10:40 am
10 years 11 plus losses.
7 games blacked out.
Next year 8 years 11 plus losses.
8 games blacked out.
Gestting rid of or keeping Cable won’t change nuffin.
IRRegardless, Cable is argubly one of the, if not THE worst HC’s in the NFL, probly worst of the decade.
Again..who IS the worstest?
Who has been so cluwless?
Brilliant post, Richochet. I see mom spent well on that grade school education.
January 3rd, 2010 at 10:42 am
Fargas got a lot more work b/c of the McFadden knee injury against Houston.
January 3rd, 2010 at 10:43 am
Vegas,
People in that locker room like Cable because he deflects blame off of them instead of holding them accountable.
January 3rd, 2010 at 10:45 am
John Madden and the Raiders of the seventies were a run first team. Cable’s offensive philosophy is what AD tells him. We are a pass first, second, and third team.
January 3rd, 2010 at 10:46 am
the bottom line is this wont change until we get a real hc and gm who can give this team the type of long term structure needed to succeed.we all want to win even tho we have different ideas of how to win. the fact that al davis has taken this franchise down this far is disgusting. cable was never a long term solution and we were just to geeked up over how we ended last year to acknowledge it.
January 3rd, 2010 at 10:46 am
Jhill,
Russell 2-7 in games he started
3-3 in games he hasn’t (did get the TD in Denver though)
You know Cable is going to completely throw Russell under the bus to keep his job. Let’s see if it works. A win today will clinch keeping his job (unless Russell comes in the second half and leads the team to the win, lol)
January 3rd, 2010 at 10:48 am
CaptainBlack Says:
January 3rd, 2010 at 10:42 am
Richochet Says:
January 3rd, 2010 at 10:47 am
IRRegardless, Cable is argubly one of the, if not THE worst HC’s in the NFL, probly worst of the decade
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Richochet, you are quite the writer.
January 3rd, 2010 at 10:51 am
Armond,
I just brought up Maclin as a trivial point, wasn’t directing it at you. JLH averaged 23 yards a return and Miller than came in and was a lot better.
I want Russell to go do what he likes to do, spend his money and have fun. Football is way down on the priority list, so why keeping holding the team and himself hostage? He wants to put in only so much of an effort, if it doesn’t work, so be it in his mind. Not good for the team.
I don’t want Cable here next year unless there is an OC coming aboard to call plays. But Bruce developed this year, so did Murphy and even McFadden is having a better year this year than last year. We won games we never have won in years. Beating 2 division winners, the reigning Super Bowl champs and another playoff contender? Unheard of in Oakland lately. A win today and he deserves to come back. This might be our best year in 7 years!!!!
January 3rd, 2010 at 10:52 am
BUILDING a global brand admired for winning with a singular, distinctive style was his goal from the start. Al Davis always has wanted the Raiders to be impossible to ignore.
Fear them. Love them. Hate them.
Never, ever disregard them.
Yet that’s exactly what’s happening. The Raiders, who take the field today at the Coliseum to face Baltimore, are concluding their seventh consecutive losing season with their seventh consecutive local TV blackout.
If the same basic crew of coaches and players returns next season, expect an eighth straight losing season and eight local TV blackouts in eight regular-season games.
Davis has yet another opportunity to make the dramatic concession desired by fans and many within the organization. The handprints of the boss are all over the team’s descent into irrelevance. We are about to discover how far he is willing to go for a fix.
http://www.insidebayarea.com/raiders/ci_14112723
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Al Davis has to fire somebody, because with the same crew, the blackouts will continue.
January 3rd, 2010 at 10:53 am
So then it’s all Al’s and all Cables fault then.Is this the consensus?
January 3rd, 2010 at 10:53 am
I’m not blaming Cable for JaLoser. I’m blaming Cable for terrible playcalling and decision making. I don’t like the ZBS either.
January 3rd, 2010 at 10:53 am
KK, nice post.
January 3rd, 2010 at 10:54 am
# HayesDaze37 Says:
January 2nd, 2010 at 12:50 pm
Mikey — None taken, and I respect your opinion.
My unwavering (yet often critical) support for Al Davis doing what he wants with his own team, is well known on this board. And, yes, I agree there are bigger potatoes than this in a football sense…but this is a separate issue entirely, from day-to-day football operations. Whether the team has had a disastrous recent past or not has nothing to do with protecting the Brand from those who would use it for their own financial gain.
The flip Ricky, Jr. should actually be a little more choosy with his comments, considering the Raiders players and organization have been extremely good to him, his family, and their obviously successful run as bar owners all these years — making money off the Raiders every step of the way. Junior’s attitude is actually the reason a number of people avoid his once-legendary hangout these days. Money first, baby — who cares about customer service anyway?
Ricky’s has a BIG financial stake in using Gruden’s pics for their own PR purposes. If they tried a little harder to support the Raiders ORGANIZATION, win or lose, maybe the pics in question wouldn’t have been as big of deal as it’s turned into.
But, even then…the Raiders have every right to ask that photos of current employees, taken with the FIRED ex-employee, be taken off any web site (or other) advertisement for any business.
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The stupidity of Al Davis and his cronies continues. Another example of why Al Davis SUCKS and ruined the Raiders “organization” if you can even call them that! LOL
January 3rd, 2010 at 10:56 am
skewed stat Vegas. Russell is responsible for one of the wins.
ONE good qtr of football in games Russell didn’t start. 4th qtr against Pittsburgh.
We were ridiculously lucky to beat Cincy. 10 passes forced to DHB that game was super ugly to watch. Thank GOD Cable got his head out of his arse on that last drive and featured Chaz and Miller instead of DHB!
And if Joseph doesn’t drop that gift pick on the last drive, we lose that game. Same with the Pittsburgh INT drop at the end of the game.
There was not an offensive explosion of ANY sorts once Russell got benched. The QB sucked AND the rest of the offense including the HC, play caller, rookie WRs, terrible Oline, and suspect RB play.
January 3rd, 2010 at 10:56 am
Fargas was the only RB allowed to Run, this whole year. When he was out the beginning of the year, it was all about DHB. Bush was lucky to get 3 carries.
January 3rd, 2010 at 10:59 am
Exactly Kell!
Cable’s PLAN from day 1 was Russell and DHB, and he FORCED it on us.
It’s hilarious that all Cable STILL talks about in terms of DHB is how he’s supposed to clear out areas for other guys. LMFAO!
January 3rd, 2010 at 11:00 am
Going after Rickeys sports bar is so typical of the Raiders. Pathetic. 7 straight blackouts and their going after the fans. Stupid.
January 3rd, 2010 at 11:01 am
If Cable stays…Fargas stays!
If Cable gets fired…Fargas gets released!
January 3rd, 2010 at 11:01 am
Jhill,
You can always go back and say this play, that play, on and on.
The Cincy game was won by our D. I think Cincy had 4 three and outs in the second half. And the game was tied before the fumble and headed to OT. I think home teams win over 50% of OT games. So I don’t think it was lucky. We played well and won the game, simple is that.
Besides, talking about dropped INT’s, we never win the KC game if the Chiefs held onto any of the numerous dropped INT’s. DB’s can’t catch and you will see dropped INT’s every week.
And while it may have been only ONE good QTR, that is one more than under Russell.
January 3rd, 2010 at 11:01 am
Correction:
And they’re going after the fans.
Sorry I was drinking last nite.
January 3rd, 2010 at 11:02 am
Agreed KoolKell (maybe the first time).
But, I think Cable may be worth bringing back just because he now knows better how to work with Al and I think he can actually start to implement some good things….with an O-Coordinator who calls plays then I’d be okay.
I want a little consistency. Unless we can get a TOP-OF-THE-LINE head coach (which I don’t think so) I’d prefer Cable back than another person having to go through a year or two of trying to gain Al’s trust and tip-toeing around until he’s fired 1.5 years later and so it goes on and on.
January 3rd, 2010 at 11:04 am
# KoolKell Says:
January 2nd, 2010 at 11:15 am
This is for you Davis Idolaters who don’t believe Davis has long ears. Who don’t believe he cares about the media.
– If you’re still holding out hope that Jon Gruden may some day make his way back to Oakland, consider that a club staffer phoned Ricky’s Sports Grill and Lounge and requested that all photos from the Dec. 14 party hosted by Gruden with current employees of the organization be removed from the restaurant’s Web site.
Good to know that as the Raiders move forward to recapture their greatness, they’re focused on the right things.
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More proof that Al Davis and his cronies are freakin IDIOTS who don’t give a damn about truly WINNING and don’t give a damn about fans of the Raider Nation.
Those are FACTS!!
Those of you have season tickets…..DO NOT RENEW YOUR SEASON TICKETS UNLESS a REAL GM AND REAL HEAD COACH ARE HIRED!
Tell your ticket rep to tell Al Davis to make those changes or to F**K off!
January 3rd, 2010 at 11:04 am
Darren McFadden’s YPC this year is worse than ANY YEAR Justin Fargas has ever had.
If you think Fargas’ carries should go to Bush, which I would agree, than where do Darren’s go? He is less effective taking handoffs than Fargas.
January 3rd, 2010 at 11:04 am
KoolKell Says:
January 3rd, 2010 at 11:00 am
Going after Rickeys sports bar is so typical of the Raiders. Pathetic. 7 straight blackouts and their going after the fans. Stupid.
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I agree….from the ridiculous to the sublime.Please please,Big Al just cant be this far gone,can he?
January 3rd, 2010 at 11:06 am
Should be a feisty bunch today at the game.
People with the anti-Davis signs, ready to boo at any sign of Russell or Fargas.
Better be a good game or it could get very very ugly.
January 3rd, 2010 at 11:08 am
Leach, 48, offers, at the very least, treatment. In 10 consecutive winning seasons at Texas Tech, he gained a reputation for offensive innovation, mostly through passing. His teams tend to score in bunches.
Though his base offense, the spread, is closer to the West Coast philosophy than the vertical game Al prefers, the quarterback usually has the option to throw deep. Six times the Red Raiders led the nation in passing.
Davis was a huge fan of the late Sid Gillman, the man primarily responsible for introducing sophisticated passing schemes into pro football. Gillman undoubtedly would have appreciated the way Leach attacks defenses.
Some NFL team, embracing the growing emphasis on quarterbacks and passing, will come after Leach. No team has a greater need than Oakland, though it will take some convincing to bring Leach to the Raiders, even if he is a California native (Susanville) with an affinity for pirates.
Davis, 80, needs to be persuasive. He needs to creative. Is he willing to be? His house has never been in such deplorable condition. It is everything he doesn’t want it to be.
The fear is gone, the love is diminishing and the hate has faded into cool detachment, if not outright pity. To those outside the team’s bubble, the Raiders are no more relevant than the Browns or the Lions.
Those on the inside, even those staying away, know the Raiders are sick. They’re hoping if Davis won’t consider a general manager that he might concede the need for the best available specialist to fix his most visible need.
That’s Leach. He won’t be hard to find.
http://www.insidebayarea.com/raiders/ci_14112723
January 3rd, 2010 at 11:10 am
Well….well…well… the annual Raider top 8-10 pick discussion. Great….just great….we have to look forward to Al Davis making another stupid top 10 pick again?? Oh crap! LOL
The old man needs to hire a freakin REAL GM/Personnel Man to run the draft and a REAL Head Coach to turn the freakin ship around…..otherwise the team will continue to SUCK!
If the old man drafts a CB like Joe Haden or S like Mays with that top 8-10 pick…someone needs to seriously put the old looney delusional man out of his misery!
Since Suh and McCoy will be gone….the pick needs to a BEAST MLB like Rolando McClain or a BEAST DE like Derrick Morgan or one of the stud OT prospects Okung, Williams or Campbell.
McClain is better than Ricky Brown and is bigger, faster and stronger against the run than Morrison. Morgan can be plugged right in at the RDE spot and cause havoc right away and will allow Seymour to move back inside most of the time. Anyone of those OT prospects will be able to start right away at the RT spot or compete with Henderson at the LT spot.
Ellis will be battling out with the young incumbent starter Shaunessey for the LDE position. T Scott is the new elephant WLB who is made to cause havoc and make plays standing up 80% of the time and at times playing as a down DE to confuse opposing O-Lines. Howard will remain at the SAM position. New fresh blood and energy is needed at the MIKE spot and Rolando McClain has the speed, size, strength, intensity and athleticism to take over that MIKE spot for the Raiders. He can be their Patrick Willis.
January 3rd, 2010 at 11:11 am
Last game of the season.Stayed home 4 every game this year,till now.I am putting on my Lester Hayes Jersey and going to the local dive in awhile.Damn it!!!! I am ALL fired up over this Cable conversation….I love this =)
January 3rd, 2010 at 11:12 am
# KoolKell Says:
January 3rd, 2010 at 10:56 am
Fargas was the only RB allowed to Run, this whole year. When he was out the beginning of the year, it was all about DHB. Bush was lucky to get 3 carries.
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this is what i agreed about…but also it’s stupid how we attack anyone who’s been popular here recently. Gannon, Gruden etc. Wrong target
January 3rd, 2010 at 11:12 am
This Mike Leach to Oakland talk is gonna make me throw up……again!
Like the dumb old man AL DAVIS being petty and stupid again about the Rickys/Gruden pics!
Give me a freakin break you dumb old man!
January 3rd, 2010 at 11:13 am
vegas u know al aint cuttin russ easy. u might be hatin him on the field atleast 1 more year. there will be other teams calling him if it does happen. as for grads he hasnt proved much either like jhill said. id rather see a better qb than him. dmc can play but we dont committ to him enuff. you know how many fans of other teams wonder why we dont use him? he needs to touch the ball alot to be effective but cable wont do it. his excuses for not getting bush in the game is ridiculous. he shouldnt be the hc period new playcaller or not. if washignton can get shanahan then al better step his game up now too.
January 3rd, 2010 at 11:14 am
The size of the crowd at the Coliseum will show just how irrelevent the Oakland Raiders are with their own fans. Great job, Al.
January 3rd, 2010 at 11:17 am
Leach ran up the score on crappy teams and got blown out against good teams.
Totally inflated stats. Every QB he had was one of the top statistically QB’s in the Nation and I don’t think one has ever gotten a start in the NFL.
January 3rd, 2010 at 11:18 am
It seems Big Al has made some mistakes but if #2 doesnt restructure I think he cuts him.Best thing would be 2 restructure and give the YOUNG man a shot a redemption,imo.Cable 2
January 3rd, 2010 at 11:18 am
the hell with leach if u really want to fix this mess then get parcells. he turns teams around year 1 and he leaves u in much better condition than when he came. he also leaves behind pretty good assistants so u can really promote from within which is the raiders biggest weakness. Al Davis is the problem for this team whether he realizes it or not.
January 3rd, 2010 at 11:20 am
And, of course, Al repeat another mistake by rehiring Trestman. It will never end
January 3rd, 2010 at 11:20 am
armond Says:
January 3rd, 2010 at 11:13 am
dmc can play but we dont committ to him enuff.
I haven’t seen nearly the potential out of Dmac than I have out of Bush in both of their limited carries. The 3 longest runs this year and last are by Bush despite getting less carries than Dmac or Fargas.
January 3rd, 2010 at 11:21 am
Did anyone recognize the former Raiders employees posted on Ricky’s Web site?
January 3rd, 2010 at 11:22 am
Armond,
He (Darren) has to touch the ball a lot be effective? Can we have a guy who is effective whenever he touches the ball? That is a riduculous argument. He should be catching passes, screens, trick plays and maybe 2-4 handoffs a game to keep the D honest. That’s it.
I agree completely on Bush though. He should be getting Darren’s handoff’s if McFadden isn’t going to do anything with them.
You say other teams may come calling for Russell, but what you don’t know is that Jamarcus might not answer the call. His heart isn’t in being a backup and fighting for a job for less pay.
January 3rd, 2010 at 11:22 am
win,lose or tie….if Big Al fires Cable,I’ma poke myself in the eye lol
January 3rd, 2010 at 11:22 am
vegas u r right about leachs’ record. i remember how he kept running up the score against cal in the holiday bowl a few years ago. if u thought kiffin was a trip just get him and al 2gether. that would be a complete mess. there is enuff talent here to turn this around which is why we need a good gm to get this draft right.we got alot of picks to get some really good players this year.
January 3rd, 2010 at 11:23 am
# jhill Says:
January 3rd, 2010 at 9:46 am
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2010/01/03/SPA31BCJA9.DTL&feed=rss.raiders
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More stupidity from Davis and cronies! hahaha….it never ends does it??
Someone had to order Cable to not say much during the Monday presser??
Cable was stating the truth about Juggs Russell Davis!
Al Davis doesn’t like the truth fellas and he doesn’t give a damn about WINNING and the fans!
That means none of us should give a damn about him and the crappy product he tries to sell us.
January 3rd, 2010 at 11:24 am
Off to run around for a second. Be back right at kickoff
January 3rd, 2010 at 11:27 am
Keep Cable – Add an Offensive Coordinator!
Draft some Big Boys (O-Line, DT) and a MLB who’s a RUN STUFFER.
January 3rd, 2010 at 11:29 am
vegas it aint ridiculous if u know what u talking about. dmc is not some damn scat back like sproles. dude is more of a workhorse type and sometimes guys wont get going right away but sometimes they will. when u are the #4 pick yes the damn team needs to give u more than 5-10 carries and 2 passes. we have never given him 20 touches in a game since the kc game last year when he went for 164 and a td. he gets a 5-6 yard run and then he goes to the sideline for several plays the same as bush. does that make sense to you? sayin he should get 3-4 runs is ridiculous. he should get 18+ a game some games the same as bush.
January 3rd, 2010 at 11:30 am
# 4evaRaider Says:
January 3rd, 2010 at 11:18 am
It seems Big Al has made some mistakes but if #2 doesnt restructure I think he cuts him.Best thing would be 2 restructure and give the YOUNG man a shot a redemption,imo.Cable 2
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Big Al has made SOME mistakes??? LOL
He has made a CRAP LOAD OF MISTAKES!! Tell the truth!
January 3rd, 2010 at 11:33 am
4eva never tells the truth when it comes to AD.
January 3rd, 2010 at 11:41 am
Thanks Neil…great website
January 3rd, 2010 at 11:51 am
As I’ve stated B4 CaptainBlack…..I’m sure Al Davis has stepped on his d!ck many many times.If thats not truthful,well thats all you getting from me
January 3rd, 2010 at 11:55 am
My name for new HC is anyone but Cable don’t mind young nobodies they may at least turn out to be our next Madden but I know Cable and what we win 5 games with him next yr and more of his excuses no way .
January 3rd, 2010 at 12:01 pm
I think if cable stays we go 7-9 to 8-8 next year. If we get a really good O-Coordinator it can be a bit better.
I think just changing 3 things we could’ve been 8-8 this year:
1. Don’t start Russell after it’s obvious during pre-season and OTAs that he’s not cutting it.
2. Let Bush get minimum 15 carries per game each game this year.
3. Don’t play DHB once it’s obvious he can’t catch.
With only those changes we’d be 8-8 I think. Maybe I’m nutz, but even a loon could see that we’d be in much different shape if we did that.
January 3rd, 2010 at 12:03 pm
yep!
January 3rd, 2010 at 12:13 pm
I agree with that, because it was obvious Russell was not sharp from pre-season and camp.
But, I doubt Al was willing to listen.
Forcing DHB on the offense was a disaster too. Handed the srarting JOB for No reason. I’m sure that was Al too.
January 3rd, 2010 at 12:19 pm
Mav,
The “we would’ve been 8-8 argument” just has so many angles. I’m just not quite sure which games we win though.
For me, I knew the minute Chaz went down in the preseason that it was going to be a tough year. Before the injury I thought Chaz would get 5 catches or so a game to go with Miller’s team leading 8 catches or so. Mix in 5 or 6 passes to the RBs, and that would be the consistant 15-18 completions each game. Mix in a deep completion or 2 to the rookies or JLH, and that would have been a great compliment to the 35-45 rushing attempts.
Taking away Chaz, Nick Miller from the return game, Gallery for 7 weeks early, Pears at RT?
AND CABLE STILL FORCING THE PASS ?????
I just don’t see a QB change getting us 8-8. It MAYBE gets us a better game like losing 28-13 instead of 28-3. But outside of the 4th qtr in Pittsburgh, I’ve seen no evidence of a winning team.
January 3rd, 2010 at 12:23 pm
Look at the change since 2 out of 3 happened. Once Russell was sitting and DHB got Hurt (thank god someone stepped on his foot), we’re 3-3. Now, we could’ve won in Cleveland with Bush getting enough carries I believe so that’s the 1 out of 3 that was missing there. We could’ve won the 1st game for sure with descent QB play. I think we wouldn’t have spiralled so bad also during the middle of the year. Just look at the life breathed in when Gradowski came in.
That would minimally mean 2-3 more wins at this point.
January 3rd, 2010 at 12:50 pm
I think we could’ve won 1st week SD definitely, the 1st game KC, the Cleveland game. Those for sure.
I think if we didn’t have Russell in we wouldn’t have started the Giants game with a fumble turned touchdown and then an interception turned touchdown on the 1st 2 possessions and I think the whole season would’ve been different.
I guess you never know. If the Tuck Game wasn’t such BS and Gruden stayed maybe it would still be as bad as it is now. I don’t think so. But you never know. It’s just conjecture. And from what I observed with the difference just in having a QB that is mediocre (rather than Russell who was HORRIBLE) and having WRs who are able to make plays rather than DHB who dropped a lot was HUGE. Huge difference in our play.
January 3rd, 2010 at 1:10 pm
Is the raiders game coming on after the Pitts/Mia game? I tried to go onto the feed online and it goes onto that game.
January 3rd, 2010 at 1:25 pm
That was all on Mario Henderson. You see how fast that DE got around him to the QB. That should’ve been a 1st down for us.
January 3rd, 2010 at 1:46 pm
And….McFadden drops it…..
January 3rd, 2010 at 1:46 pm
Frye lookin’ good!
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