Cable’s season-ending press conference
By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Monday, January 4th, 2010 at 1:57 pm in Oakland Raiders.
A full transcription of Monday’s season-ending press conference with Raiders coach Tom Cable:
Cable: Just to follow up yesterday, two guys who got nicked in the game – Charlie Frye is undergoing an MRI right now. Seemed to be a lower back strain and about the same this morning as it was yesterday after the game, pretty sore and tight. And then Darren McFadden got a pretty good stinger in the shoulder but did come back in and went back out and came back in, so, we’ll just make sure he’s O.K. there.
In regards to yesterday’s game, really, what I said after the game, really hit it on the head. I mean, we had a great opportunity, tremendous effort, didn’t get it done in the second half, when we had a real chance, I think it was 14-13, kind of grabbed momentum and then gave it up. Too many rushing yards with their offense, obviously, and, you know, but a game you walk away from feeling like you had a chance to win but you just didn’t get it done.
Q: Do you immediately dive into player evaluations now?
Cable: We’ll start on that probably this afternoon and that will be the next deal, spend a few days doing that. And then we’ll take a few days to kind of relax and refresh.”
Q: What is the checkout process, did you meet as a group?
Cable: Yeah. We met as a team, and then physicals for everyone, exit physicals, and information where everybody will be, that sort of thing, and then team meeting and then we’re done. This afternoon, the coaching staff will start on the evaluation.
Q: What was the message to the team?
Cable: Well, you know, it was kind of a follow-up to yesterday. The next step for this organization is to not just compete and be in them, but now to win them and get over the hump. The next step, I think, is the biggest one, and that’s what I tried to explain to them – that there has to be an individual standard set and then one that will combine as a team to set our own standard next fall. But that’s going to be the most difficult one.
And it takes a greater commitment and it takes a little more work and giving of yourself a little bit more and just focus on that. Next year, there can only be one goal, and that’s to be a playoff team. Not to win and all that, it’s to clear up all this inconsistency and those sort of things and become a playoff team.
Q: How do you get guys to work harder?
Cable: I think whenever you end the year like you did and you’re 5-11, albeit very competitive and all that, not winning enough, I think that’s all you need, you know? At the end of the day, it still comes down to winning and that still has to be the greatest motivator, is success.
Q: Is this a playoff team with some tweaks here and there?
Cable: (Yes).
Q: Or do you need to bring in a lot of guys?
Cable: I think when you get done evaluating it, have a better chance to answer that. But certainly there will always be change. You’ve got to make the team better and look at every area, every aspect of it, all positions, both sides of the ball, kicking game, whole deal, and really, have some real honest evaluation. Don’t window-dress it. It’s got to be very black and white.”
Q: Was everybody at that full team meeting this morning who you expected to be there?
Cable: Yes.
Q: Was JaMarcus Russell there?
Cable: He was not. But I knew he wasn’t going to be there.
Q: Why not?
Cable: Because he was excused.
Q: For personal reasons?
Cable: Same reason Richard Seymour was – personal issues.
Q: Who do you want to be your QB next year?
Cable: Well, again, that’s coming down really to the evaluation process, you know. Getting all that done and saying who you’re going to have on your team and build this team with and then, I think, once you get through that part of it, which will be free agency, the draft, then it’s time to really put your team together, in terms of who’s going to play where and what.
Q: Did you know when you were hired it could take more than a year to get things going?
Cable: I think I said that, even, in the beginning, that there would be a process to go through to get there. Certainly we hoped we could do it right away. But we’re much better and much closer but we’re not near close enough.”
Q: With the problems with the running game, quarterbacks getting sacked an injured, plus your background as a line coach, how much of a disappointment was the line play?
Cable: Well, I think on both sides of the ball. You’re asking specifically about the offense but I think on both sides we have to get better. There’s no question. And the good teams in this league, really, they’re bui;t on the line of scrimmage. And the cohesiveness it takes, whether it be on offense or defense, is extreme. And I didn’t think we had enough of that on either side this year.
Q: Still sold on the zone blocking scheme?
Cable: You know, really, when you look at it, the teams that are leading the league are still predominately zone blocking teams. So I’m not sure it’s the scheme that’s the issue, it’s how are we teaching it, how are we playing it. Those kinds of things to me are more of an issue.
Q: Did this team underachieve, overachieve or play to its potential?
Cable: I think there are some times I felt like it underachieved. There’s some times I think we played to our potential. And then learning how to win, I think that’s the next step, and I think we’ve learned the little things it takes to insure that you win. When you have it 14-13, make another play. Just keep playing, make another play. That would have been the difference yesterday.
Q: Have you done enough to retain your job for next year?
Cable: It’s not up to me.
Q: Do you feel you have?
Cable: Yes, definitely.
Q: Do you anticipate a meeting with Al Davis soon?
Cable: We have talked this morning, and we’ll talk again next week.
Q: On Monday?
Cable: Sometime next week.
Q: Did he give you any reassurance?
Cable: No, it’s not about that right now. Right now it’s about getting this team evaluated.
Q: Do you thin you and Al on the same page regarding the QB situation?
Cable: I do, because his words to me were, ‘You’re the coach. Make the decision.’
Q: Was the play of the offense over the final seven weeks an indication of what this team may one day be able to achieve?
Cable: Yeah, there’s no question.
Q: Scoring still was an issue, though . . .
Cable: We were at nine points a game before, and it went to 16-something in the last seven weeks.
Q: What did you learn this year?
Cable: (Laughs) A lot. Really. What a great experience. I learned be careful about trying to do too much. I’ll put that at the top of the list. Be careful about trying to do too much as the head coach. You gotta do a lot. You gotta have your hand on everything.
But I think I’ve always been one to just roll ‘em up and go at it, whatever needs to be done, get in and get it done. I think that’s why you have the coaches you have and the staff you have and those kind of things. So I’d say that’d be at the top of my list.”
Q: Of all your many roles, which would you like to keep next year?
Cable: I think first thing is to get through this week, evaluating the players. And I’m gonna do that next. That’s kind of second on my list. I don’t think it’s time to answer that question, but it will be soon.”
Q: Did you overextend yourself at times?
Cable: Yeah, I think you can sometimes do so much that you’re not good at the things you should be, you know?
Q: Are you open to having someone else call the plays?
Cable: Oh, yeah. At the end of the day I’ll do what’s best, for sure. For sure.
Q: Did you tell Al you wanted to stay?
Cable: We don’t have conversations like that. Right now, there’s a process every team’s going through that’s not in the playoffs, and that’s really to evaluate where you’re at, who you are, right now at the end of this thing. And then, from those evaluations and from those discussions, you make some decisions.”
Q: Does Al Davis share your optimism about this team?
Cable: Well, I hope so. But again, we don’t have those types of conversations. So when you’re in the locker room and you’re on the field every day, I think your thought, your approach to it is very real, cause you see it. You see it for what it is.
Q: What was the nature of today’s meeting with Al?
Cable: Just to plan the evaluation, and discuss what we’ll talk next week, and we’ll go from there.
Q: Is Richard Seymour a guy you’d like to have back next season?
Cable: I hope so. Again, that’s part of these next few days and evaluating this whole thing. But he certainly did a lot of good things since he’s come here.
Q: In retrospect, did the decision to focus on passing game in camp hurt the running game?
Cable: That’s one of the things on my list to look back on. It certainly could have. I think at the time it was the right thing to do. Even though there were struggles early, it certainly kind of worked itself out to where we improved that area.
Q: Should you have changed QBs earlier?
Cable: It’s not time to do all that right now. What it is is let’s evaluate our players and see where we can make our team better. And then we have to do those kind of things, we have to answer that kind of question.
Q: Was Gradkowski one of the year’s surprises?
Cable: I think so. He and Charlie both did a nice job when they were given the opportunity. They were prepared and all that, so yeah.
Q: Do you expect an open QB competition next year?
Cable: Again, I haven’t even thought about all of that.
Q: Young receivers, ya like em?
Cable: I’m excited about that group, for Chaz (Schilens) and Louis (Murphy). And we’ll get Darrius (Heyward-Bey) back and get him through the first-year blues, if you will, and get him relaxed and calmed down and continue to develop the group. You can throw Brandon Myers in there. I think that’s someone in the future that’s going to help us with Zach. There’s a nice core there, a nice nucleus to grow with.
Q: How will building the roster for next year be affected by lack of CBA?
Cable: I think it’s going to have an affect on all that. I think every team is going to go through the same ups and downs with it. That’s why to me it’s so important that the evaluation you do in the next few days I think has to be very, very critical and has to be very detailed. You have to really get some bottom line things answered.
Q: Did you see the billboard campaign for a GM, and are you in favor of it?
Cable: You know what? I really haven’t. I was told about it and that’s about all I know about it. I don’t have any feeling on that.
Q: But would you be in favor of a GM?
Cable: I think right now let’s see where this team is and again that’s part of how do you get us better.
Q: What does it mean to have the players support?
Cable: It means that they trust you and you give them everything you’ve got, and they know that, that you try to give them a chance to succeed and that you respect them and care about them. That’s really what it means. Again, I made a point a little bit ago, when you spend all that time with them, be it weight room, locker room, on the field, camp, on and on and on, it either is a good fit for a coach and the players or it’s not. We try to do it right and we certainly are learning to play for each other and grind for each other the way you’re supposed to. Now let’s get to winning football games.
Q: Why the lack of production from Darren McFadden? Are injuries the biggest issue?
Cable: If you’re going to put your hand on one thing, it’d probably be it. Yesterday, he’s in he’s out he’s in he’s out with a stinger. That happens a number of times. I think again he’ll be fine. I think we’ve got good runners there.
To me it’s more a product of getting more success early so you can grow your confidence and you can become the sort of explosive team you want to be because then it makes weapons like Darren that much more special. You can do these things with him and be as creative as you want to.
Q: Thoughts on Sebastian Janikowski’s season and his impact?
Cable: Well it’s tremendous. You think about scoring 1,000 points and you can argue all day about him being the Pro Bowl kicker in the AFC. He’s done it since 2000 certainly since I’ve been here a very high level of consistency. Just a lot of positive for Sebastian and what he’s done in his career. He’s not very old so he’s got a long life left as a kicker in this league. Hopefully we’ll get something worked out with him and he’ll be a Raider.
Q: With all the people talking about your job security, how often do you think about it?
Cable: I don’t because all I know is I have a contract right now. Whether or not that’s honored is not up to me. I’m a ballcoach. I’m a damned good football coach so things will work out. They always do.
Q: How much have you learned to ride through storms here?
Cable:. I’m the master. Any of you got problems, just call me. Believe me. I can help you with your alternator and those kinds of things, your travel plans. But seriously, I think you asked me what I’ve learned. I think that’s the next biggest thing I’ve learned is everything I was raised to be and understand and believe in got me through the year.
I think it justified a lot of things for me but it also taught me some things about just how strong you really have to be. Not for yourself, it’s for the people around you, whether it’s your coaches, your team, your family, whatever that is. I think that’s No. 2. Don’t try to do too much and No. 2 really realize what you’re capable of but also understand just how tough you have to be to get through it.
Q: Do you think all the outside distractions are behind you?
Cable: Well I hope so. I have no control over any of that. I know the truth, we all know the truth, it was proven and so you got to move forward.
Q: You have changed the culture here . . .
Cable: Well I said that from the very beginning. I said one of the things that would really have to happen for us to get back to being a team that would have a chance to make a run at the playoffs and have success was you had to change the attitude and you had to change the mentality and the defeatist attitude that gets in the locker room when you struggle for a long time. The thing I’m most pleased about from the season is the fact that our talk now is about we can and we will. It’s not ‘Oh well, this happened, here we go again,’ that kind of BS. It’s we can and we will. I think that’s really a big deal.
Q: Can Luke Lawton have any contact with the team while under suspension for using performance enhancing drugs?
Cable: No if I understand the rules really it’s a suspension. You’re out, you’re away and all that.
Q: Was it an honest mistake on Lawton’s part?
Cable: I don’t really know. Coaches are not part of that deal so …
Q: Which players have been pleasant surprises?
Cable: Sure there was. I mentioned our safety play, to me Michael Huff really became a big-time guy, a guy who you can count on, a guy who can make plays, was solid from beginning to end. Tyvon Branch just seemed to get better every week. Matt Shaughnessy, better and better every week. Trevor Scott.
The play of Nnamdi. The thing I’m most, and I don’t know how many of you really know this, but to me Nnamdi became a much better player because of how he became a much better leader and how he became more solid in those aspects off the field. I’m really proud of Nnam just because of who I think he is become. He’s becoming complete. He’s become not just a guy respected because he plays great. I think because he’s doing the right things all the time and I think that’s pretty impressive, how he works, what he puts into it, those things. So valuable because young guys see that, Mike Mitchell sees that and that’s what you want him to see. Mike Mitchell’s a guy I think in the last six weeks has really come alive and can really help us.
Desmond Bryant, another one, I really think that kid’s got a big big upside. Richard has already been talked about. Trevor Scott, talked about. Offensively, I think Zach had a fine, fine year. The young tight end Brandon Myers I think is going to be a very good player in this league. The receivers was talked about, they’re coming along. I’d like to as I said get Darrius maybe a little more confident and settle down a little bit, don’t feel like you’ve got to carry the weight of the world on your shoulders, just play.
Samson Satele had some really good moments and I think there’s really something there to build on in terms of stability at that spot. In the backfield, those three guys, albeit up and down, a lot of time the situation dictating what we could or couldn’t do, pretty solid for us.
Q: How did Mario Henderson do in his first year as a starter?
Cable: I think like a lot of guys on this team, there were some really good moments, some times when you’re really excited about him and then there’s some times where he’s got to improve. There’s some things, he’ll be the first to tell you, there’s some things he has to get better at and improve on.
Q: Assuming you return, would you like to see the staff intact?
Cable: Well I hope so. This is a group of good teachers. One thing about them, they’ve always gone out and I think the response of the players kind of proves that this staff has given these players the opportunity to have success at what they’re doing.
Q: Did the job of Pau Hackett or Ted Tollner change with quarterbacks?
Cable: Not really. No.
OK? Thank you all.
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January 4th, 2010 at 2:00 pm
FIRE CABLE FOR INCOMPETENCE……
January 4th, 2010 at 2:01 pm
RaiderDogg Says:
January 4th, 2010 at 1:01 pm
raidertay Says:
January 4th, 2010 at 12:59 pm
Im convinced the Raiders will pick a DB in the draft this year. Its actually an area of need. You heard it here first…whichever corner runs the fastest time will be the Raiders first round pick.”
Eric Berry – Tennessee
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Oh man, does this mean all the good DBs might run just a little slower than they can so they can avoid being picked by Al Davis, who will then pick some 4th round talent DB at #8 who posts the best 40 time???
Sounds like Eric and Lane have been sharing some laughs at Al’s expense.
January 4th, 2010 at 2:01 pm
4evaRaider Says:
January 4th, 2010 at 2:00 pm
As a matter of fact Dogg it is that time again,in a cyclical sense =)
January 4th, 2010 at 2:06 pm
repost
Name an OC. A good one.
Bring in another veteran QB. A smart one.
Bring in another veteran WR. A healthy one.
Bring in another veteran Center. A healthy one.
2010 Draft:
1. DL (or MLB)
2. MLB (or DL)
3. OL
3. RB
4. DB
5. QB
7. DL
January 4th, 2010 at 2:08 pm
Mike Martz as OCO….As he wont be a head coach. Knowss what to do with players, would know how to use DMAC and MBUSH…..
January 4th, 2010 at 2:08 pm
Cable – “I’m a damn good football coach…”
that makes at least one person who thinks so.
January 4th, 2010 at 2:09 pm
Cable lost a lot of points with that asine comment. He knew he needed help from the gates. He is hugely responsible for the stunting in growth of the offense…
January 4th, 2010 at 2:18 pm
Cable “im a damned good football coach”. You won five games, and were blown out more times than you won. The o-line is a joke, and so is the rest of your team. He says players must be accountable, yet he throws his qb under the bus, blaming him for the losses, and refuses to admit that he himself stunk up the joint. Get this dude out of here please.
January 4th, 2010 at 2:21 pm
Q: Was the play of the offense over the final seven weeks an indication of the mediocrity this team may one day be able to achieve?
Cable: Yeah, there’s no question.
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WTF is that?
I assume Cable didn’t hear it right. What a smart-ass question though.
January 4th, 2010 at 2:22 pm
Al Davis will retain Cable
January 4th, 2010 at 2:23 pm
Cable’s endorsement of Satele is scary. Yeah, he wasn’t as bad as Morris, but we still need a better center.
January 4th, 2010 at 2:23 pm
Chris in NY, Cable answers question the way 4eva does.
January 4th, 2010 at 2:24 pm
4eva, which laundry soap did you choose ?
January 4th, 2010 at 2:27 pm
For me the draft doesn’t even start until day 2. Thats where all of our decent picks are made. I’m sticking with Haden becuase he fits our need at DB……oh who am i kidding i can’t even justify any first round pick after DHB.
Oh and message to Russell, when the Raider Nation wants you to follow Seymour’s example we didn’t mean to leave early.
January 4th, 2010 at 2:28 pm
Eric Berry is a Safety. He is a good player, but I think we will draft a CB. Safety seems solid with Brach, Huff and MM. Oh By the wat, Hiram should be cut just for getting punked in the open field by McGahee like that.
January 4th, 2010 at 2:28 pm
Al Davis didn’t want to retain Cable last season, but with the Kiffin stink still fresh he had no other option…
…I think Al will wait to fire Cable until he knows that there is renewed interest from possible candidates.
January 4th, 2010 at 2:29 pm
You know Al will take five months to make a decision on the Coach. He probably will not even fire Cable until March.
January 4th, 2010 at 2:29 pm
Q: Thoughts on Sebastian Janikowski’s season and his impact?
Cable: Well it’s tremendous. You think about scoring 1,000 points and you can argue all day about him being the Pro Bowl kicker in the AFC. He’s done it since 2000 certainly since I’ve been here a very high level of consistency. Just a lot of positive for Sebastian and what he’s done in his career. He’s not very old so he’s got a long life left as a kicker in this league. Hopefully we’ll get something worked out with him and he’ll be a Raider.
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we better
January 4th, 2010 at 2:38 pm
“Cable: Well, I think on both sides of the ball. You’re asking specifically about the offense but I think on both sides we have to get better. There’s no question. And the good teams in this league, really, they’re built on the line of scrimmage.”
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I hope these are not just words:
“the good teams in this league, really, they’re built on the line of scrimmage”
January 4th, 2010 at 2:40 pm
Cable listed Satele as a bright spot, eliminate C from your Draft Wish List.
January 4th, 2010 at 2:42 pm
An Inside Source tells me “Cable will be back.” lmao who is the jackass who claims he has an inside source. I remember someone posted that sh.it.
January 4th, 2010 at 2:43 pm
He listed Schilens and Murphy as bright spots at WR, not Heyward-Bey
He listed Shaughnessy, Mitchell (the last 6 games) and Myers too, so I guess he is happy with the Draft he had
January 4th, 2010 at 2:43 pm
4evaRaider Says:
January 4th, 2010 at 1:13 pm
Well just how do you think those players attained the status they did during those years?
Barnwell finished his career with a 17.1 yard AVERAGE!!!!
Barnwell had to be accounted AT ALL TIMES….JUST like DHB will…..
We have ALWAYS used a decoy but I dont expect PrivateBlack or FloridaPete 2 understand that
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a fine arguement save for one significant detail…
Heyward-Bey can’t CATCH !!!!!
January 4th, 2010 at 2:44 pm
An Inside Source tells me we are moving to 3-4 next season
January 4th, 2010 at 2:44 pm
our last inside sourse was Norco Bob
hey Bobbyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy!!!!!!
January 4th, 2010 at 2:45 pm
No Way!, Really? lol
January 4th, 2010 at 2:46 pm
we will just have 2 wait and see Pete….
January 4th, 2010 at 2:46 pm
I miss Norco Bob
January 4th, 2010 at 2:46 pm
Q: Is this a playoff team with some tweaks here and there?
Cable: (Yes).
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i see the “yes” is in parentheses…
did he fart???
January 4th, 2010 at 2:47 pm
(Yes) means he nodded yes.
January 4th, 2010 at 2:47 pm
me too El Tato
January 4th, 2010 at 2:48 pm
Our “Just win baby” is in parentheses
January 4th, 2010 at 2:50 pm
Q: Was the play of the offense over the final seven weeks an indication of the mediocrity this team may one day be able to achieve?
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i nominate this question as the question of the decade!!!
lmao !!!
January 4th, 2010 at 2:50 pm
Our “Commitment to Excellence” is in parentheses
January 4th, 2010 at 2:52 pm
He should have said that he needs to improve, as a coach. He sucked. You want no.2 to take accountability, and be a leader give him a head coach he can follow. cable is a weasel he has to go.
January 4th, 2010 at 2:55 pm
You want no.2 to take accountability, and be a leader give him a head coach he can follow.
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I can give him a plane ticket to Alabama with the only condition he never comes back
January 4th, 2010 at 2:58 pm
El Tato Says:
January 4th, 2010 at 2:55 pm
You want no.2 to take accountability, and be a leader give him a head coach he can follow.
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I can give him a plane ticket to Alabama with the only condition he never comes back
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aw, c’mon… at least let him sell hotdogs in the stands…
January 4th, 2010 at 3:02 pm
repost
Name an OC. A good one.
Bring in another veteran QB. A smart one.
Bring in another veteran WR. A healthy one.
Bring in another veteran Center. A healthy one.
2010 Draft:
1. DL (or MLB)
2. MLB (or DL)
3. OL
3. OL
4. DB
5. QB
7. DL
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we need as many o lineman as you can try out
January 4th, 2010 at 3:05 pm
And I don’t think Cable is a GREAT coach but who could make these player great? Think about our roster coming out of training camp looking back now from week 17. We coulda done a lot of things differently. Those chances were there. Not really Cable’s fault considering the actual talent level of this team.
January 4th, 2010 at 3:06 pm
I like that he realizes he could use an O-Coordinator. Maybe his views of himself are grand, but you don’t want a coach who says he’s a $hit coach.
Heck, I hope we bring in someone better if we do fire him. And don’t go on about how it can’t get much worse. I’ve seen the last 6 years worse than this one in my opinion. I actually have some bright outlook on things and with the O-line and D-line strengthened as the priorities we can get somewhere.
January 4th, 2010 at 3:08 pm
No.2 came out as a junior. No doubt he has work to do, but to think he was going to handle it on his own was faulty thinking. He needs structure, like most young guys. A coach he respects for starters, could help. Hell its better than cutting bait. Be real about it, the number 1 pick of 2007, you dont give up on him, you keep working with him hoping he gets it before the guaranteed portion of his contract runs out. Other wise not only to you whiff on the draft pick, you compounded the problem with poor fiscal management. This is why cable will be out. Im sure Davis wants more from no2, im also sure he thinks cable wont be able to get it out of him.
January 4th, 2010 at 3:09 pm
Cable=just doing what he is ordered to do
January 4th, 2010 at 3:12 pm
The next head man should bring no.2 under his wing, like the o.c with the titans did with young. Form a bond or a relationship of trust and build on it. Clearly there is no trust between no.2 and cable, and it goes both ways.
January 4th, 2010 at 3:13 pm
JR calls his performance this year “shaky”. Thats putting it mildly. Dude you were the worst rated QB in the league.
MAybe Al will part ways with JR. Look what happened to DHall when he was the worst rated CB in the league. Numbers dont lie.
January 4th, 2010 at 3:13 pm
Mistic wrong the next head coach should can russell
January 4th, 2010 at 3:14 pm
Cable, you are what your record says you are. 5-11, AGAIN.
January 4th, 2010 at 3:15 pm
for real
January 4th, 2010 at 3:15 pm
And SoB needs to shut up!! We didnt need to draft BlowJob Raji. He is garbage and Al will never draft a short DT that high. now Terrence Cody is a monster vs the run and we need to look at him only withthe 8th pick
January 4th, 2010 at 3:16 pm
fuc cable and #2 they both suc, hell we can include macsuxs too. ill give d.h.b. another year before i put him on this list, but fuc cable,russell,mcfadn. they all suc.
January 4th, 2010 at 3:16 pm
If only Al Davis was man enough to have his nurses prop himself up before the media and take some questions.
January 4th, 2010 at 3:16 pm
The only way JR leaves here is if you give him a “Wings For Life” card in Alabama!
January 4th, 2010 at 3:18 pm
Keep Cable!!!
He said that “next year, we’ll be in the playoffs”.
OK. He just went out on a limb, so why not give him a shot.
Would any decent coach come here anyway? Why replace Cable with some other lamer?
January 4th, 2010 at 3:18 pm
Russell dont care and neither does Al
January 4th, 2010 at 3:19 pm
Q: Scoring still was an issue, though . . .
Cable: We were at nine points a game before, and it went to 16-something in the last seven weeks.”
Is this a joke? Not something that I would be hanging my hat on. 16 points a game?!
January 4th, 2010 at 3:19 pm
Al you read the blog or john herrera reads to you……..DRAFT TERRENCE CODY
January 4th, 2010 at 3:20 pm
No Terrence Cody means we pick another player who will not help our real issue
January 4th, 2010 at 3:21 pm
The only thing Cable ever said that made sense, was that the line of scrimmage is where the magic happens. I really dont think cable’s o-line is any good at all. Seems like Cable doesnt want to acknowledge how poorly the o-line played he would rather blame no.2. Who can respect a guy like this? News flash cable, the run game was awful also. Most head coaches have a unti they hang their hat on, and when that unit fails, heads roll. Nice try Cable no 2 is rubber and your glue. come to think of it lets send this guy to the glue factory like yesterday.
January 4th, 2010 at 3:22 pm
cable cant be head coach,o.c.,line coach, w.r. coach, toilet bowl cleaner, and Big Als nut scrubber, i agree thats way too much for one man so keep him to toilet bowl scrub and nut scrub. will suit him well.
January 4th, 2010 at 3:22 pm
Your Oakland Raiders General Manager.
09′ 5-11
08′ 5-11
07′ 4-12
06′ 2-14
05′ 4-12
04′ 5-11
03′ 4-12
http://images.huffingtonpost.com/gen/123234/AL-DAVIS.jpg
January 4th, 2010 at 3:22 pm
“al davis is not in good health.” glimer of hope…
January 4th, 2010 at 3:24 pm
It’s a great day to be a Raider fan, isn’t it?
January 4th, 2010 at 3:24 pm
Al Davis will never die
January 4th, 2010 at 3:26 pm
You cant just cut the players drafted over the last 3 years!!!! Our team would be in a financial hell. There is always the chance that they may improve. Also this is not Davis way he doesnt rebuild he only reloads. Davis beleives better coaches will change the fortunes of the team, and his draft choices. I am inclined to agree.
January 4th, 2010 at 3:28 pm
This whole thing about the players wanting to keep Cable..
What are they supposed to say? That they don’t like him, on camera? Then if it turns out he’s back, they get to look forward to going into camp next year already in the coach’s doghouse? Their endorsement and 4 dollars gets you across the bay bridge. Not only do I think their disingenuous anyway, but even if they do really want him, do players on a 5-11 team really deserve to pick their head coach? Seems to me the right idea is to hire exactly who they DON’T want.
January 4th, 2010 at 3:29 pm
“Long Live Al Davis”, in a retirement home and the reins turned over. He has made us all proud fans, but needs to step aside and let the new regiem take over and bring us back to our dominence in the NFL!
January 4th, 2010 at 3:29 pm
Al Davis is on a 29-83 run. The last thing we need is Al Davis hiring anybody.
January 4th, 2010 at 3:29 pm
“they’re”, not “their”. Excuse me.
January 4th, 2010 at 3:29 pm
What a great day, fellow bloggers – KrappyKell and his grandson Brian the Genital (currently going with his new more feminine identity, “The Return of Godliness”) have reunited!
Fellas, I know your relationship has been strained lately because of the poor play of the Silver & Black. But with a fresh year, comes a fresh start!
Brian, let’s start with changing your grandpa’s dirty diapers without complaining so much. He’s a senile old goat who can’t distinguish between crapping his drawers, flipping a fried egg or sticking his dome in the microwave on defrost. Give the poor loser a break.
Krappy, it’s time to accept your grandson is built like Tyra Banks and WILL be attracted to more feminine cut clothing. For crying out loud, Krap Krap, the kid is trying to make a fashion statement – its not just a cry for help!
2010 is going to rule, and I’m going to surf Baja like Young MC used to do!
January 4th, 2010 at 3:31 pm
Zero improvement from last season. Cable goes. It’s a no brainer. Firing a coach who takes a 5-11 team to 7-9 would be harsh. But taking a 5-11 team to 5-11? You have to improve by at least one game. It’s a minimal requirement in this league. It’s like spelling your name right on the SAT. You have to at least get that part down. Cable is not an NFL head coach, period.
January 4th, 2010 at 3:34 pm
MR, I think Al will see that Cable followed his advice to the T, and will rehire him for 1 more year, Al likes followers of his dicipline.
January 4th, 2010 at 3:35 pm
29-83. Wow. Good stat, Kell. What’s the Raiders’ all time record looking like, now? I know the Raiders lost the best overall record slot long ago. (Miami?). Man, if Al stays 5 more years, he could leave the Raiders half way down that list. The post Ron Wolf era is almost ruining the Ron Wolf era.
January 4th, 2010 at 3:36 pm
Yeah, but who can Raiders get that’ll be any better? I mean seriously.
Do you fire him just to fire him?
The players all say they want him back for continuity. We can say “Continuity? You mean 5-11 continuity?” You’d be right, but what are the options that would actually improve this hapless organization?
January 4th, 2010 at 3:37 pm
860, since when?
Art Shell, Mike White, Joe Bugel, Bill Callahan, and Norv Turner all followed orders.
January 4th, 2010 at 3:37 pm
Draft Russell Okung, Trent Williams, Brandon Spikes, or even Jerry Hughes out of TCU. He’ll light up Kellen Moore tonight.
Any of those dudes!
January 4th, 2010 at 3:38 pm
Dj, the options are improvement of the lines. Period. We suck at the lines. We have good young talent at the talent positions, we suck where the game is won.
January 4th, 2010 at 3:38 pm
RM,
I just saw your #64 post.
I have to agree with you.
January 4th, 2010 at 3:41 pm
Yes, the lines. I hope Al is considering that.
It’s not very sexy, but it is what wins football games ultimately.
January 4th, 2010 at 3:42 pm
I don’t know how much Cable’s loyalty will help with Davis.
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Five years earlier Huizenga had successfully treated Anderson’s wife of 42 years for Hodgkin’s disease. “The word loyalty is bandied about much too casually in the Raiders’ organization,” Anderson says. “For Al Davis, loyalty means, ‘You be loyal to me. I’ll think about being loyal to you.’ “
January 4th, 2010 at 3:42 pm
Of course those over paid underachieving so called athletes that are merely collecting a check want Cable back so they can continue to give 60% on the field and cash their fat paychecks!
I say lets hire a hard ass like Mike Leach to come in here and put these pansies in a coat closet until they produce!!
January 4th, 2010 at 3:43 pm
MR, the coaches you listed came into positions that they had no say in personel. Art came into a no-win situation, we had a Super Bowl team, Al’s picks, and a coach who didn’t toe Al’s line. Art’s loyalty to AD is the only reason he came back, to try to save this team.
January 4th, 2010 at 3:46 pm
UnKoolKell your still alive what did they do find a cure for Syphilis or did you retire from your virtual real estate business with a golden bedpan and a one way ticket to the asylum.
For those of you who don’t know the deranged simpleton we call unkoolkell he is the guy who will post our record over the last 7 years in here one Billion times during the off season as if it will somehow cure his mental illness.
January 4th, 2010 at 3:47 pm
Djohnnyg, interesting point. It’s about our perspective vs. Al’s perspective, and, really, Cable’s perspective, too.
Al’s perspective is that Cable could not get the job done with his “great playahs”. That likely won’t bode well for Cable.
Cable’s perspective, and that of his supporters, believe he’s doing everything he can under Al’s iron fist rule (forced with Russell starting, a joke of an O line, only one run stopper on the entire D, etc), so, who’s going to do better?
Here’s my perspective: Cable could have done more to politic and take over the locker room, while avoiding the “cause” hatchet. Keep running the football. Bench guys who aren’t playing well. Just be careful to avoid the “cause” area. Kiffin was firing people without Al’s permission. He just asked for it. So obviously I wouldn’t expect Cable to be as brazen as him. But you have to do something to wrangle the team from Al. Al can’t control everything. In my view, Cable didn’t try enough. He took some bold steps (benching Russell), but that was it. He abandoned the running game way too much. And I don’t care if Al made him. Do it anyway. There’s no way Al Davis can fire a coach for cause for calling plays that he didn’t want them to call. That would never fly in arbitration, no matter what funny language was in the contract. Force Al to have to go to two arbitration hearings. That winds up happening, they might just decide to make Davis pay Kiffin, Cable, and Shannahan his back payments. Cable just took the easy road and made sure he got his money. He’s useless.
So, I want Al Davis to hire another Kiffin, someone who he thinks will be loyal, but will instead do everything he can to win, rather Al likes the methods or not. I just hope he’s smarter than Kiffin, and knows how to work the system better. Something between Kiffin and Cable is what we need.
January 4th, 2010 at 3:49 pm
Sports Illustrated 1996
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Davis, who did not return several calls to be interviewed for this story, is a man of contradictions, so the Raiders are a team of incongruities. An example: On one hand, most Raiders employees live in fear of Davis; conversely, discipline barely exists. “There’s so much confusion there, it’s unbelievable,” says Greg Skrepenak, a Raiders tackle for the last three of their 13 years in Los Angeles and last season when the team returned to its old base, in Oakland. Skrepenak signed with the Carolina Panthers as a free agent in February. “The problems were selfishness and a lack of cohesiveness. You had guys walking out of meetings, coming in late or not showing up at all. There were guys talking back to coaches and coaches yelling at each other. You’re never really sure where the decisions are coming from, and it seems like everything’s a big secret. Ultimately the decisions fall on Al Davis.”
January 4th, 2010 at 3:51 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
January 4th, 2010 at 3:28 pm
This whole thing about the players wanting to keep Cable..
What are they supposed to say? That they don’t like him, on camera? Then if it turns out he’s back, they get to look forward to going into camp next year already in the coach’s doghouse? Their endorsement and 4 dollars gets you across the bay bridge. Not only do I think their disingenuous anyway, but even if they do really want him, do players on a 5-11 team really deserve to pick their head coach? Seems to me the right idea is to hire exactly who they DON’T want.
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Very true.
Just ask Michael Bush about crossing Cable. Last offseason Michael Bush came out and endorsed Gilbride over Cable…how did Cable respond?????? Bush rode the pine all year despite being our best back…you do the math.
January 4th, 2010 at 3:53 pm
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January 4th, 2010 at 3:55 pm
Lucifer-666 Says:
January 4th, 2010 at 3:42 pm
Of course those over paid underachieving so called athletes that are merely collecting a check want Cable back so they can continue to give 60% on the field and cash their fat paychecks!
I say lets hire a hard ass like Mike Leach to come in here and put these pansies in a coat closet until they produce!!
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I don’t know about Leach, but I certainly like the idea of an ass-kicking HC instead of all these boot lickers like Cable, Norv, Shell, Bugel and White.
The only reason Gruden worked in Oakland is because the players feared him enough that they limited their pout sessions to Al Davis.
Too bad our owner likes to suck the player’s nutz instead of backing his head coaches.
January 4th, 2010 at 3:56 pm
I just don’t see where head coaches get rewarded for being loyal to Al Davis. I think of all of the loyal coaches, and most of them don’t last longer than two years. I think this whole thing with Al Davis and loyalty really has more to do with disloyalty. If Al Davis senses in the slightest that you’re disloyal to him, you’re gone instantly. But it doesn’t mean there’s a reward for being loyal to him, either. The only reward I see being handed to loyal head coaches is that they last just a little bit longer than the disloyal coaches like Kiffin.
January 4th, 2010 at 3:56 pm
Krappy, you posted this and other quotes from the SI article 150 times or more a few months ago. What goes on in your muddled old mind to want to do it again?
Do you think someone from the front office is actually reading this blog and you’re making some kind of difference?
Or do you think this is just something we’d all be interested in reading – again. And again. And again.
C’mon, Krappy – enlighten us. We’re all interested in the workings of the senile, paranoid, conspiracy theory obsessed mind.
January 4th, 2010 at 3:58 pm
MR, the vertical game was AD, the lack of running game was O-line personel to get the job done. We had injured RB’s all year, and not from open field tackles. I hope Cable puts this in his report. We used to have the most bruising O-line in the NFL. We won games and scored more than 9 points a game. We also had a pounding D-line that intimidated every team in the league. We now live with the fastest backfield in the league with no place to go.
January 4th, 2010 at 3:59 pm
Kell, just wanted to let you know that I like what you do, bringing up all of the stats and the old articles on Al Davis. It doesn’t bother me. And anyone who doesn’t like it can just skip to the next comment. It’s obvious the people who get mad at you for doing this have some sort of agenda, and are attacking your character. Don’t let them discourage you. Stay Kool, Kell.
January 4th, 2010 at 4:01 pm
Raiders 2010 Regular Season Opponents
Indianapolis-
Pittsburgh-Away-
Houston-
Tennessee-Away
Miami
Jacksonville-Away
St. Louis
Arizona-Away
Seattle
San Francisco-Away
Denver
Denver-Away
Kansas City
Kansas City-Away
San Diego
San Diego-Away
Yikes..Pitt again, Indy, Arizona, Tenn, Jacksonville, Miami…
Looks like another 10 lose season fo sho if Cable sticks around.
January 4th, 2010 at 4:02 pm
MR
I notice the trolls squeal like a stuck pig when I do it.
January 4th, 2010 at 4:02 pm
10 LOSS season I should say
January 4th, 2010 at 4:03 pm
860, I don’t know if I agree with your reasoning for Cable abandoning the run. I saw too many instances where he abandoned the run too soon. If it was his call, then it’s all the more reason to fire him. But I’m open to the idea that Al was putting pressure on him to get that vertical game going. Even if that’s the case, Cable still has to do what it takes to win, rather Al likes it or not. As long as he doesn’t start firing coaches without Al’s permission, he should be able to avoid the “cause” rap. Cable obviously took the easy route, and basically just did what Al told him to so that he could collect the kind of paychecks that he’ll probably never see again after Oakland.
January 4th, 2010 at 4:04 pm
LOL. Give ‘em hell, Kell.
January 4th, 2010 at 4:05 pm
Yeah Cable sure improved us from 2008 to 2009!
We are still a bad passing team, a bad running team, a bad o-line, and horrible run defense…and he even managed to take our one strength, special teams, and turn it into a liability…
Congrats Cable, here, waste another year of our lives in 2010!
January 4th, 2010 at 4:06 pm
MR, the coach’s are loyal, but they aren’t allowed to COACH. I loved Gruden, and he tested Al and lost, see the picture?
January 4th, 2010 at 4:07 pm
MaddenDork, thank you for chiming in on this issue. I have long wondered if there was ANYONE who derived honest enjoyment from Krappy’s crappy posts.
So now that you’ve bravely come forward, please enlighten us all –
Other than being a fellow paranoid, delusional lunatic, what reason could you possibly have for getting enjoyment out of reading the same tired old stats/links, posted relentlessly, day after day after day?
I’m dying to understand this.
January 4th, 2010 at 4:08 pm
MR
I agree we needed a Coach with some bark on his arse, and who would hold his ground, but yeah avoiding the “cause” attack.
But we’re probably not going to get a Coach like that if he’s got other options.
January 4th, 2010 at 4:10 pm
Hey Krappy, you ever party in Baja? Old man, let’s meet down there for a sweet vacation. We’ll do some surfing, drink some cold brews, you’ll watch me get lucky with the tanned indigenous babes and we’ll stay far away from the internet blogs.
Whaddya say, my old pal? You prefer Air Mexicali or Jet Azul?
January 4th, 2010 at 4:11 pm
Davis doesn’t care if his coaches are “loyal” to him. Just be ” loyal” to winning. You don’t win and you are out, often times much faster than is this case elswhere.
January 4th, 2010 at 4:11 pm
860, what do you mean the coach’s aren’t allowed to coach. And yes, Gruden tested Al. He landed on his feet, didn’t he? Kiffin went too far. What’s going to burn Kiffin is that he tried to fire Rob Ryan without Al’s approval, and I’m pretty sure his contract didn’t give him permission to fire people. But there’s no way Al Davis would win a case in arbitration for firing a coach for cause, because that coach benched a couple of bums and ran the football when Al wanted him to throw. That would never fly. Cable took the easy route. He didn’t do enough to win. That’s why I don’t want him, personally. Al’s going to fire him for a different reason. Al believes he has the best team in the NFL out there, and Cable just couldn’t win games with them.
January 4th, 2010 at 4:12 pm
mistic1 Says:
January 4th, 2010 at 3:12 pm
The next head man should bring no.2 under his wing, like the o.c with the titans did with young. Form a bond or a relationship of trust and build on it. Clearly there is no trust between no.2 and cable, and it goes both ways.
Difference is VY has proved he can play in this league his ROOKIE year.
JR has proved his critics were right.
January 4th, 2010 at 4:13 pm
We will never attract a pro coach to this team, any good college coach or any pro coach knows that to pizz off AD is a losing cause. {See Kiffy} A good coach would have to have some say in setting up this team, drafting, coaches, everything was done FOR Cable, get it?
January 4th, 2010 at 4:14 pm
Raiders 2010 Regular Season Opponents
Indianapolis-Loss
Pittsburgh-Away-Loss
Houston-Loss
Tennessee-Away-Loss
Miami-Loss
Jacksonville-Away-Maybe a win
St. Louis-Win
Arizona-Away-Loss
Seattle-win
San Francisco-Away-Loss
Denver-Loss
Denver-Away-win
Kansas City-loss
Kansas City-Away-win
San Diego-Loss
San Diego-Away-Loss
5-11 or 4-12 next year
January 4th, 2010 at 4:16 pm
Senior Beeecham is another alias of Richochet. Richochet, what a tool.
January 4th, 2010 at 4:16 pm
The Raider Off-Season Annual Dog n’ Pony show.
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Nonetheless, in what has become an annual rite of spring, optimism abounds in Raiderland. Last year hopes were buoyed by the hiring of Mike White as coach and the switch to an offensive scheme featuring short timing patterns. This spring a draft-day deal that landed Ohio State tight end Rickey Dudley and the signing of two big-name free agents—defensive tackle Russell Maryland and cornerback Larry Brown, both former Dallas Cowboys—have allowed Oakland to put a happy spin on 1996.
January 4th, 2010 at 4:16 pm
Mistic was Al loyal to winning when he benched Marcus?
January 4th, 2010 at 4:17 pm
I agree, Todd. It’s going to be tough to even get anybody with that kind of gumption now. Even someone like Kiffin wouldn’t come here now. But it’s our only prayer. These coaches that just sort of do what Al wants them to do? 7 losing seasons and counting. We really won’t see a winning season until Al dies. All we can do is hope that Al hires someone whose personality is somewhere between Kiffin and Cable.
January 4th, 2010 at 4:17 pm
Dakota,
I scanned through the upcoming home and away schedules for most teams next season and there did not stand out any cupcake schedules for any team. The rotation of divisions finally resembles a parity of hardship for all and every.
MR,
your continued love affair with Wolf only defines that you wish to live in the past and rivals that same quality you foist on AD for doing the exactly that.
KoolKell,
could you show that list again of the won-loss record, I may have missed it the past 650 times.
January 4th, 2010 at 4:18 pm
Beecham’s not Richochet. Richochet at least argues the points. I know who Beecham is, or, at least some of the other names he’s posted under in the past.
January 4th, 2010 at 4:19 pm
Kk,
contrary to popular opinion, Davis will hire coaches with balls. Gruden had a set, however he wanted a huge raise and total control. Callahan had backbone but no people skills. Davis does not put emphasis on sideline demeanor ( I wish he would) he only looks at bottom line wins and losses. We must give Davis credit for this. He will never leave you stuck with a bad coach too long, if you don’t win your gone.
January 4th, 2010 at 4:20 pm
Loss
Loss
Loss
Loss
Loss
Losssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss
January 4th, 2010 at 4:21 pm
M Lonetree, sure, I live in the past. But the past I want to go back to isn’t nearly as distant as the past Al Davis wants to go back to. And, the management of this team that I want to go back to is proven to still work in today’s NFL. Building a team from the trenches on out, with football players who love to get on the field and hit, not with athletes that can run fast and jump high, but couldn’t take a hit from a sophomore at Crenshaw High.
Here’s how far in the past I want to go, Lonetree. I want to do what Indy and N.O. are doing, you know, the two best teams in the league today? Sorry if that’s archaic.
January 4th, 2010 at 4:23 pm
MR, if Gruden was allowed 3 years to correct the deficiencies in this team, un-impeded, we would be SB bound for years to come, IMO. We are young, we have talent, when they mature, we have a very good nucleous for a dynasty. Pat’s copied our formular, seems to be working……
January 4th, 2010 at 4:26 pm
Mistic, Gruden wanted what coaches at his level of success wanted. He turned the Raiders around in 3 years time, which earned him the right to demand what he demanded as far as most of the league is concerned. And, he didn’t want total control. He just wanted control of the final roster, after Al had already drafted and acquired the players. Gruden was fine with his role of merely lobbying to Al who he wanted to draft or sign. If anything, Gruden was demanding even less than what he deserved. Considering how long it had been since the Raiders were even in the playoffs in 2000, Gruden couldn’t do any worse than Al Davis when it comes to completely controlling a football team. And even though Gruden declined in Tampa, he still wasn’t nearly as bad as Al Davis.
January 4th, 2010 at 4:27 pm
860, I’m sorry, I just don’t understand what you mean that the Pats have copied our formula. I didn’t even know we had a formula. What is our formula, and how have Bob Kraft and Bill Belichick copied it?!? Take me to school, dude. Because I have no idea what you’re talking about.
January 4th, 2010 at 4:28 pm
Q: Was everybody at that full team meeting this morning who you expected to be there?
Cable: Yes.
Q: Was JaMarcus Russell there?
Cable: He was not. But I knew he wasn’t going to be there.
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Me too coach, but I didn’t need some bogus personal reason.
January 4th, 2010 at 4:28 pm
I wonder what Jerry Glanville is doing? I bet he is available to coach the Raiders.
January 4th, 2010 at 4:29 pm
Davis drafted Bo Jackson and felt he was better than Marcus, Marcus was unhappy about it and let be known, this was the problem for Davis. You don’t challenge your boss in public, you will lose. My point was Davis doesn’t expect coaches to be loyal to him, if anything Davis shows that he doesn’t really trust anyone. Besides owners only show loyalty to coaches when they win, this is why most coaches get fired before they retire. Davis is no different in this regard.
January 4th, 2010 at 4:29 pm
Mistic says
Davis does not put emphasis on sideline demeanor ( I wish he would) he only looks at bottom line wins and losses.
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That sounds looney to me when his won record of Wins-Losses as General Manager is 29-83. Setting NFL losing records in the process.
How can you say that?
January 4th, 2010 at 4:29 pm
Agree MR, When Al traded him away, he sank us, and has been trying to regain that ever since. Al will never appoligize, but he owes Gruden one, and each and every one of us!
January 4th, 2010 at 4:30 pm
Almost a decade and half (L.A.) has gone bye, when I gave Al Davis a couple of years to retire or *move on.
I’m beginning to start thinking…I really don’t see him going anywhere anytime soon.
I’m getting older myself and would love to see the Silver&Black one day reach the Super Bowl.
Dakota posted earlier……
Dakota Says:
January 4th, 2010 at 4:05 pm
Yeah Cable sure improved us from 2008 to 2009!
We are still a bad passing team, a bad running team, a bad o-line, and horrible run defense…and he even managed to take our one strength, special teams, and turn it into a liability…
Congrats Cable, here, waste another year of our lives in 2010!
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I’m beginning to think the same way!
It’s been too long since we have had a winning season.
I really like Cable (somewhat) but it is definetly time for a big coaching change!!
We’ll see what happens in the near future.
Till then keep your fingers crossed Raider Nation!!
January 4th, 2010 at 4:30 pm
Apparently he was coaching Portland State earlier this year: http://quizzandquon.files.wordpress.com/2009/09/jerry_glanville1.jpg
January 4th, 2010 at 4:31 pm
Jerry Glanville should coach the Oakland Raiders.
January 4th, 2010 at 4:33 pm
Captain Douche, honestly, you come across as being one of the dumber tools on the blog. And that’s no small feat, my friend! Have you ever seen Brian the Genital try to compose a complete sentence?
Anyway, I’ve been easy on you since you started posting a few weeks ago because you obviously suffer from some type of disability. But, after careful consideration, I’ve decided to grace you with my guidance and teachings.
I’ll accept your thanks in the form of remedial insults, over posting or just running away scared never to be heard from again.
Cool, brah!
January 4th, 2010 at 4:34 pm
MR,
each and every year I have the wish to draft or obtain offensive linemen until the group is an elite squad as I believe that is the ENTIRE key to winning in the NFL. So, I watch the McFs and DHBs of the world haunt the draft board and the Pears and Greens and Morrises become the dismal failings as NFL starters they have written in their beings –
Indy’s Jeff Saturday and his cohorts could block for Charlie Frye to their greatest ability and they would still lose more games than they win. Indy is Peyton, plain and simple.
New Orleans is both a symbiosis of Drew Brees plus Sean Payton on offense and some good fortune that their DC’s ballsiness has worked out often enough.
neither of the above examples resembles a GMs greatness unless you adhere to a notion that being lucky is a quantifiable attribute.
January 4th, 2010 at 4:34 pm
Dakota,
I thought our schedule next year looks “easier” than they was this years looked. I know you shouldn’t make too much about schedules, but we are trading in the NFC East for the NFC West. That will help.
January 4th, 2010 at 4:36 pm
Captain, don’t listen to Beeecham. You may be dumb, but he is just a retarded man child.
January 4th, 2010 at 4:39 pm
Mistic says
Davis does not put emphasis on sideline demeanor ( I wish he would) he only looks at bottom line wins and losses.
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The 80yr old GM produces this:
09′ 5-11
08′ 5-11
07′ 4-12
06′ 2-14
05′ 4-12
04′ 5-11
03′ 4-12
5 Head Coaches, 8 Starting QB’s.
How about HIS record as GM, he only looks at the bottom line?
January 4th, 2010 at 4:39 pm
Control of player personel and coaching staff, this what is meant by total control. He ALS wanted a huge pay raise. Instead of letting gruden walk and getting nothing he traded him to ensure some compensation. Very shrewd considering he was not going to give gruden what he wanted. By the way once gruden cycled through dungy’s team gruden proved to be a below average player scout.
January 4th, 2010 at 4:39 pm
Culebra Says:
January 4th, 2010 at 3:37 pm
Draft Russell Okung, Trent Williams, Brandon Spikes, or even Jerry Hughes out of TCU. He’ll light up Kellen Moore tonight.
Any of those dudes!
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I watch a lot of the Mountain West, due to UNLV, and TCU has 3 guys I like.
Of course Hughes, who should be a first-rounder. The QB, Andy Dalton, isn’t on many radars and is a junior, but he would be a good 3rd or 4th rounder.
And this KR/WR Curley, who I think is a Sophmore but is SICK.
Go TCU, let’s keep the good times (my betting) rolling!!
January 4th, 2010 at 4:40 pm
Thanx KooKell, I missed that rundown previously.
January 4th, 2010 at 4:40 pm
vegas raider Says:
January 4th, 2010 at 4:34 pm
Dakota,
I thought our schedule next year looks “easier” than they was this years looked.
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Yikes…… a little jumpy
January 4th, 2010 at 4:41 pm
Hey, it’s that flaccid little English brat, Albert Bigelow! Last time we chatted, my young friend, you were busy crying over your smaller than usual haul of Christmas presents from mumsie and poppa.
Albert, I know you are on the blog because, as an English lad, you’re unfamiliar with American football, but this year you will learn the rules!
Or off to bed with no crumpets!
January 4th, 2010 at 4:41 pm
The games we lost, 4 or so by 5 points or less? but should have won, were lost by pressure on the QB, RB’s stuck at the line of scrimmage, rushed passes due to pressure, fumbles due to pressure, passing rushed due to pressure, opposing teams had a field day against our team, and we showed them how to do it every week. I truely liked how Marshall mixed it up in Phili, and Sunday, there is so much hope for this team, dammit, let em play!
January 4th, 2010 at 4:43 pm
860Todd Christensen Says:
January 4th, 2010 at 4:23 pm
Pat’s copied our formular, seems to be working……
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huh?
January 4th, 2010 at 4:44 pm
Beeecham, you must be Irish. Only a sauce upped Irishman could be so daft.
January 4th, 2010 at 4:44 pm
S.I 1996. Nothing’s changed. Here’s some perspective.
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Some players showed disregard for authority. In one ugly incident, which occurred a few days before the Raiders’ 34-21 loss to the Cowboys on Nov. 19, defensive end Anthony Smith attacked his position coach, Floyd Peters, after Peters questioned his play during a meeting. Witnesses say the 6′3″, 265-pound Smith knocked the 60-year-old Peters to the ground while other players and coaches watched. Yet Smith started against Dallas, which disgusted many of his teammates.
January 4th, 2010 at 4:50 pm
Thec07 Says:
January 4th, 2010 at 1:33 pm
– Cable conceded he may have spread himself too thin and sounded open to delegating some duties _ including play-calling _ if postseason analysis proves that would be the right path.
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ROFLMFAO……….Really……….
Most people on the blog figured this out during the presea…
Is this guy serious….
That comment alone should be enough to jettison him into coaching oblivion…..
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What have me LMFAO is the part that reads:
“if postseason analysis proves that would be the right path.”
And this is the guy some of you want to be our head coach? This ain’t even the Raiders anymore. It’s fuggin Job Corps. This SOB is getting credit for learning how to work. Next year call Cable’s salary what it really is: Financial Aid.
January 4th, 2010 at 4:51 pm
KoolKell Says:
January 4th, 2010 at 4:44 pm
S.I 1996. Nothing’s changed. Here’s some perspective
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If Al fires Cable and than saddles the next guy with Jamarcus, you may have some newer versions of these stories.
As they say, same shyt different shovel
January 4th, 2010 at 4:51 pm
Albert, I’m organizing a surf weekend for all the blog tards and I’m thinking about inviting you. We’ll be tasting some sweet breaks in Baja and getting down with the local honies. In between sets we’ll be scouting and then intercepting product from local drug cartels for Brian the Genital to smoke.
If you’re invited, you’ll need a large jar of SPF 80 and a box of dental floss.
January 4th, 2010 at 4:53 pm
BIG n nimble O-line, Deep threat every play, Holes open for RB’s, and a nimble QB that can hit a TE on the run with good routes, when a play collapses. Simple Raider football. And a D-line that collapses anything in front of them, that’s why we didn’t have to blitz, our front D-line penetrated, put pressure on the QB, without the blitz. We needed to blitz a lot this year because the line didn’t get it done. We could have won more games, unsettled the opp. if we employed it more, and would have won another couple games. Hindsight. Build the lines and return to dominance. Raiders 101.
January 4th, 2010 at 4:53 pm
Raiders HC salary = the Pelle Grant of the NFL
Good one 504
January 4th, 2010 at 4:55 pm
OK, Lonetree, the Saints and the Colts are just lucky. Got ya. LOL.
January 4th, 2010 at 4:55 pm
Ah, Captain Douche, just as I predicted – you went with choice #3. Perhaps a smart move, my little follower.
January 4th, 2010 at 4:56 pm
The Return of Godliness Says:
January 4th, 2010 at 12:46 pm
Koo Koo Kell we will celebrate at your funeral
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Return of Godliness?
“And thus I clothe my naked villany
With old odd ends stolen out of holy writ;
And seem a saint, when most I play the devil.”
Exactly the kind of ugly hypocrisy that justifies my dislike of so called religion.
Not my god pal.
January 4th, 2010 at 4:58 pm
Carl Weathers Says:
January 4th, 2010 at 4:12 pm Difference is VY has proved he can play in this league his ROOKIE year.
JR has proved his critics were right.
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no the difference is young came into a situation where there was a solid o-line in front of him, a running game to lean on, and good coaching. Young would have struggled like anyone alse under these circumstances.
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KoolKell Says:
January 4th, 2010 at 4:39 pm
Mistic says
Davis does not put emphasis on sideline demeanor ( I wish he would) he only looks at bottom line wins and losses.
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The 80yr old GM produces this:
09′ 5-11
08′ 5-11
07′ 4-12
06′ 2-14
05′ 4-12
04′ 5-11
03′ 4-12
5 Head Coaches, 8 Starting QB’s.
How about HIS record as GM, he only looks at the bottom line?
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KK, your only proving my point when you dont win Davis moves on. These head coaches did not win, the qb’s they picked did not produce. Name one owner or gm that has fired themselves? This does not happen in sports or any other business arena. Instead the owner pulls the plug and starts again. Why do you think Davis should do anything different than 99.9 % of the rest business world?
January 4th, 2010 at 4:58 pm
Vegas, I would add to that by saying that if Al cuts JaMarcus, and saddles our next QB with one of his porous systems and puppet coaches like Cable, things will be the same as well. In a way, I’m kind of hoping Al does that. Cuts Russell and keeps Cable. I won’t root for the team to lose, but it will warrant a laugh when we end ‘10 with a 5-11 record, or worse, with no Russell in sight to blame.
January 4th, 2010 at 4:59 pm
KoolKell Says:
January 4th, 2010 at 4:44 pm
S.I 1996. Nothing’s changed. Here’s some perspective.
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Some players showed disregard for authority. In one ugly incident, which occurred a few days before the Raiders’ 34-21 loss to the Cowboys on Nov. 19, defensive end Anthony Smith attacked his position coach, Floyd Peters, after Peters questioned his play during a meeting. Witnesses say the 6′3″, 265-pound Smith knocked the 60-year-old Peters to the ground while other players and coaches watched. Yet Smith started against Dallas, which disgusted many of his teammates.
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1996?!! THAT WAS 14 YEARS AGO!!!!!
January 4th, 2010 at 5:01 pm
Look at what happens to every QB we throw in in place of Russell. They get hurt, all of them. Our system does not protect the QB, and you have to have that in today’s league.
January 4th, 2010 at 5:01 pm
“Kool” Kell: Honestly dude, who gives a rip about this Anthony Smith (WHO?!) incident?
Chris Henry was a mencae to society and attacked 16 yr old with a gold club.
After stating they would never hire him again, the Bengals did exactly that.
The League is full of stories worse then your blast from the past.
Reaching and pathetic.
January 4th, 2010 at 5:02 pm
Russell’s big enough to sustain the hits our QB has to take. Not that that’s a reason to draft a QB by any means. But it’s the only reason he’s the last cockroach roaming the earth that is our QB roster. He’s a big guy and can take the hits. With this system, we’d better find a QB with Russell’s size, at least.
January 4th, 2010 at 5:03 pm
MR,
Bruce won’t let this team go 5-11. I am confidant in it.
January 4th, 2010 at 5:05 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
January 4th, 2010 at 5:01 pm
Look at what happens to every QB we throw in in place of Russell. They get hurt, all of them. Our system does not protect the QB, and you have to have that in today’s league.
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Not the system, the players manning it.
IF the injuries hadn’t happend IF Satele hadn’t sucked, IF Morris could move the pile IF Green didn’t whiff and get flagged every 10 plays, If Carlisle wasn’t outdated….
IF the line was solid, the run game would work better and the play action would help protect the passer…in theory…
January 4th, 2010 at 5:05 pm
Marshall can stay, I would love to see what he can do with his own guys, and returners having a solid grip on the concepts. give him som new toys, D tackle and mlb.
There is no redeeming Cable. His team does not respect him. Cable is like the dad the smokes weed with his sons. As long as the kids get what they want everything is fine, as soon as the dad tries to put his foot down the son says, screw off hypocrite. By the way I think no.2 showed a lot of class after the game. he really could have hammered cable, especially after cable trashed him. Instead he took the high road and said he needed to improve everything. Dont look now but could he be starting to get it? We will know for sure come july.
January 4th, 2010 at 5:06 pm
MR, If JR puts his butt to the grindstone from now to August, loses weight, man’s up, and a real reality check comes in, I can see him leading this team. He got a real dose of reality, now it’s up to him. The party is over, real life is here, where are you going to go?
January 4th, 2010 at 5:07 pm
Draft an offensive tackle and a defensive tackle in that order.
Please!
January 4th, 2010 at 5:07 pm
Saying Russell knows how to take the hits is like saying a 10-15 boxer has a good chin.
No crap, he takes more sacks than anybody so he is a little more versed in the art of sack-taking.
Frye doesn’t know how to absorb the hits. I don’t know if I ever seen a QB get rag-dolled like he does.
January 4th, 2010 at 5:07 pm
Good news though, the Broncos suck and missed the play offs.
January 4th, 2010 at 5:08 pm
The Party ain’t over 860. It’s the off-season, the party is just getting started.
Jamarcus got a leg up on everybody skipping town a day early.
January 4th, 2010 at 5:09 pm
860Todd Christensen Says:
January 4th, 2010 at 5:06 pm
MR, If JR puts his butt to the grindstone from now to August, loses weight, man’s up, and a real reality check comes in, I can see him leading this team. He got a real dose of reality, now it’s up to him. The party is over, real life is here, where are you going to go?
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I’d love nothing more then for Russell to become the next Elway, but he’s alreay got $40 million reasons to not put in the effort.
Ridiculous…
January 4th, 2010 at 5:09 pm
Nnamdi, the players IN the system is part of what I meant. The system, throwing the football downfield, something Al Davis will always want, and making offensive linemen the lowest priority. If Al was as serious about building an offensive line as he was about drafting fast receivers, our QB would get more time back there. Al Davis does not care about the offensive line. He expects his QBs to get murdered, which is why he likes Russell. His size.
January 4th, 2010 at 5:10 pm
Vegas, all our QB’s took a beating this year. How come?
January 4th, 2010 at 5:11 pm
Vegas, I agree with you. But it’s the reason Russell’s standing. Quick couple of questions for you: Who started yesterday? Who FINISHED?
January 4th, 2010 at 5:13 pm
Vegas, all our RB’s took a beating all year. How come?
January 4th, 2010 at 5:13 pm
860, I don’t know how much Russell can improve in this system. He can be a little bit better if he took his job seriously. But no QB is going to lead this team to a winning record with this system. Nobody in the league. Like I said earlier, if Davis isn’t going to hire a better head coach, I kind of hope he cuts Russell and keeps Cable, just to show you guys that Russell is not the reason we suck. Because we’ll be 5 win (or less) team next year, too.
January 4th, 2010 at 5:13 pm
It’s not like we sent out our Murderer’s Row of QB’s.
It was Charlie Frye and Jamarcus Russell. You mean the Baltimore Ravens beat the crap out of those guys?? No way, who would have guessed that!!!
January 4th, 2010 at 5:15 pm
the party is over and I think no2 knows it. Lets see what he does about it.
January 4th, 2010 at 5:15 pm
John Elway might be the only QB in history who could play in this system, because of his size. But he wouldn’t make us that much better. We don’t run the ball enough, too many receivers that can’t catch the ball, a horrible offensive line, Elway would still be under pressure all of the time. If you put a 25 year old Elway into this offense right now, I’d say we go to 7-9, tops.
January 4th, 2010 at 5:16 pm
I can only go by what’s happened, Vegas Raider. Gradkowski gone for year. Frye seems to go down every game we put him in. All I can go by is what happens.
January 4th, 2010 at 5:17 pm
860,
I want us to improve the O-line. I think the D-line is more important, but replacing Green and our RG and depth is a top priority.
We have had some top 10 rushing years in the past few years. This year, barely below average NFL rushing team. I think Fargas and McFadden suck, and the jury is out on Bush.
Dead last nearly every year stopping the run. We need a MLB and some DT’s more so than any other position besides QB.
January 4th, 2010 at 5:17 pm
Mistic1 Says:
January 4th, 2010 at 4:58 pm
Name one owner or gm that has fired themselves? This does not happen in sports or any other business arena. Instead the owner pulls the plug and starts again. Why do you think Davis should do anything different than 99.9 % of the rest business world?
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The Board removes them, or they go out of business.
You can play disingenuous little games all you want to delude yourself, or lie to others.
You said Al Davis only looks at Wins-Losses. His are worse than the 5 Head Coaches he’s hired/fired, by far.
January 4th, 2010 at 5:18 pm
The Bruce injury is the one that is the killer.
Hurt his knee. Brady did last year, and it happens, but that was not a banner day for our O-line.
8 sacks?? LOL
January 4th, 2010 at 5:19 pm
LOL. Yeh, Mistic, Al is just doing what the rest of the business world does. Sticking with a failing model for nearly a decade. Al’s just running with the pack, everyone. LOL.
January 4th, 2010 at 5:22 pm
Vegas,
The top two draft choices should be at d tackle and any one of the o-line positions from center to right guard/tackle. Without upgrades here no qb can save us. No.2 got killed, sent to the bench, then the next two qb’s were hammered. On top of the fact that we also loss badly with all three qb’s. Evidence suggest that the biggest problem isnt no.2, its cable and his o-line.
January 4th, 2010 at 5:23 pm
MR, did you not notice a different in JR on the field yesterday? I did, but he still needs work, maybe 2 or 3 years worth, but not as starting QB. I say we keep him, develope him, everyone wants instant gratification with a draft pick, like they do in their lives. This doesn’t work in the NFL, and in most things in life. This society is on the verge of financial collapse because of instant gratification, but I’m from an older time. I remember Stabler sitting pine for 5 years. Otto playing in his prime. We, as a team, are not far away, we need a LOT of help on our lines, address that issue, then talk SB.
January 4th, 2010 at 5:25 pm
Man I awoke this morning seeing Al Davis preparing to fire Cable at the bottom of the ESPN ticker and I jumped outta bed excited an even posted a couple times arouns 8 am (somethin I’ve never done).
Then I go to work and have a good day in good spirits and come home to this crap. Cable ain’t fired yet and he’s still working. Man I’m so depressed right now that when I’m finished bloggin tonight, I’m gonna go jump in Lake Pontchartrain. And it’s freezin freakin cold tonight.
January 4th, 2010 at 5:30 pm
Don’t do it, you got alot to live for!!
January 4th, 2010 at 5:31 pm
Chill the beer in there, not you 504!
January 4th, 2010 at 5:31 pm
Like another 5-11 season!!
Al Davis death!!
The Raiders one day winning a Super Bowl!!
January 4th, 2010 at 5:31 pm
If your claims are true, how do you explain owners like ford, bidwell, brown, to name a few. These teams are horrendous year in year out, have these owners fired themselves? Of course not. What about tom benson in new orleans, his teams were awful in the ninties and a good prtion of this decade, did he fire himself? Please. Why would you expect davis to do this? Coaches get fired not team owners, get serious. By the way Al has changed several different times, different coaches have different amounts of rope, they bring different offensive and defensive schemes. You have to win or you are out. There is only one super bowl winner every one else failed. When you fail miserably as a coach, you dont deserve more time to screw it up. Complaining about davis is worthless, besides when he does pick the next winner where will all of you be then.
January 4th, 2010 at 5:43 pm
Cable: Well, I think on both sides of the ball. You’re asking specifically about the offense but I think on both sides we have to get better. There’s no question. And the good teams in this league, really, they’re bui;t on the line of scrimmage.
Yeah, no shyte Cable. Make sure you tell Al we need a DT or OL, when you do your evaluation. You’ll get fired for cause and he’ll get pi$$ed and draft 3 of the fastest db’s.
January 4th, 2010 at 6:03 pm
THERE’S CERTAINLY A FAIR SHARE OF PATHETIC RESPONSES ON HERE… I FOR ONE DO BELIEVE WE HAVE GOOD PLAYERS ON THIS SQUAD… WITH THIS YEAR UNDER THERE BELT IT ONLY MEANS MORE EXPERIENCE FOR A YOUNG RAIDER TEAM… WITH THE RIGHT COACHING (WHICH INCLUDES CABLE IN MY OPINION) AND SOME MOTIVATION THEY SHOULD BE FINE…
WIN LOSE OR TIE, RAIDERS TILL I DIE…!!!
January 4th, 2010 at 6:05 pm
This situation in Oakland is so easy to fix I could round up some of you on this post and we could fix it. We need 2 linemen that are better than you pick 2 on this line, I would draft the best linemen one with some size lets start blowing people off the line. The defense is not that far off just a little more stubborn with the run. The middle linebacker is not getting it done so we change that. If our first round draft bust doesn’t show signs of understanding this offense buy May 1 see you. Tom Cable he is not John Gruden but he might be John Madden the players play hard for him you cannot underestimate that. AL Davis cant afford to hire some collage coach who is going to wet his pants at the first encounter with him. otnom@netscape.net Boston MA
January 4th, 2010 at 6:10 pm
Do not fire Cable we need consistency
January 4th, 2010 at 6:11 pm
Build up the lines and take or chances with Bruce
January 4th, 2010 at 7:18 pm
FIRE AL DAVIS…..
Ooops….If the old man is to stupid and stubborn to bring Gruden back then the the old looney man Al needs to take a step back HIRE a REAL GM/PERSONNEL MAN to work with Cable on personnel and then Cable needs to hire an offensive coordinator.
This is if Cable stays as Head Coach of course.
January 4th, 2010 at 7:23 pm
If the dumb old man Al is too stubborn and stupid to hire a REAL head coach like Gruden back or hiring Harbaugh….then there is no point in hiring a new lapdog puppet coach.
Just keep Cable for continuities sake and Cable needs to hire an OC to call plays.
I think Cable also needs to hire a new running backs coach that is in the mold of Rathman. They also need to draft or sign free agents on the O-Line that weight over 315 pounds to bring more power to the ZBS.
January 4th, 2010 at 8:52 pm
860Todd Christensen Says:
January 4th, 2010 at 3:16 pm
The only way JR leaves here is if you give him a “Wings For Life” card in Alabama!
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Have you not seen a profile view of JR – He already has one!
January 5th, 2010 at 5:16 am
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