Don’t expect axe to fall on Cable today
By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Monday, January 4th, 2010 at 8:49 am in Oakland Raiders.
History suggests if Al Davis is to fire coach Tom Cable, it won’t happen today.
The Washington Redskins have already fired Jim Zorn, and the Buffalo Bills have dumped their entire coaching staff. The Raiders, however, have been inclined in past years to allow even the lamest of ducks to quack one last time for the assembled media before breaking out the chopping block.
Some examples:
Mike White_Last game of the season was a 28-21 loss to the Seattle Seahawks on Dec. 22 to finish 7-9 (he’d be coach of the year material for that now). Infamously told of his firing on Christmas Eve by Bruce Allen.
Joe Bugel_Last game of the season was a 20-9 loss to Jacksonville on Dec. 21 but wasn’t fired for 16 days, getting the word on Jan. 6. He even showed up and kept a speaking engagement at a local school, telling kids he’d been fired. The Raiders were 4-12 and lost their last five games and eight of the last nine.
Bill Callahan_Last game of the season was Dec. 28, a 21-14 loss to the San Diego Chargers, a game in which starters Charlie Garner and Charles Woodson were benched for missing an evening snack session on the eve of the game. He was fired three days later, a day after Rich Gannon met with the media and said there were serious issues with discipline on a team the coach had called “the dumbest team in America,” following up a conference championship with a 4-12 season.
Norv Turner__Last game of the season was Dec. 31, a 30-21 loss to the New York Giants. Turner got word four days later. Turner was misty-eyed as he got the game ball on Nov. 20 when the Raiders beat the Redskins 16-13 to improve to 4-6. Then they dropped their last six.
Art Shell_ Last game of the season was Dec. 31, a 23-3 loss to the New York Jets to complete a 2-14 season, including the last nine in succession. He was fired six days later, validating a late-season report by the NFL Network’s Adam Schefter that Shell would be fired at the end of the season. The Raiders responded to that report with a denial and saying Schefter was a “false rumor mongerer.”
Lane Kiffin was an in-season firing, four games into the 2008 season after the Raiders had carefully built a case “for cause.”
Jon Gruden was traded to the Tampa Bay Buccaneeers for $8 million in cash, two first-round draft picks and two second-round draft picks on Feb. 19, 2002, a month after the 13-10 loss in New England in the “Tuck Rule” game. Talks at a contract extension had fallen apart when Gruden believed the Raiders had reneged at an offer which would give him control of the coaching staff and final say over the make up of the 53-man roster.
So chances are good Cable will be at the podium much as his predecessors have been to wrap up the season. Most talked of high hopes for the following season, either in denial or unaware a pink slip was coming.
The only aberrations were Callahan, who read a terse statement regarding the suspensions of Woodson and Garner and exited the building without taking questions, and Turner, who understood what was coming and thanked all the reporters present for being fair.
The strangest firing of all pre-dated the Raiders return to Oakland. In 1994, the Los Angeles Raiders finished 9-7 following a 19-9 loss to the Kansas City Chiefs. Days later, rumors swirled that Shell would be fired and White promoted to head coach. It wasn’t confirmed by the Raiders for 27 days, and no one is sure when the transition took place.
An open locker room session with players who haven’t already vacated the building is scheduled for 11:15 a.m. (PST), with Cable’s press conference following at noon.
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January 4th, 2010 at 8:51 am
Bills fire entire coaching staff
Posted by Gregg Rosenthal on January 4, 2010 11:33 AM ET
Black Monday has arrived in full force in Buffalo.
Per Jay Glazer of Fox, the team has fired their entire coaching staff.
It’s not a surprise the Bills are making sweeping changes. But it is notable that the team has let go some longtime assistants like vaunted special teams/assistant head coach Bobby April.
There have been previous reports that interim head coach Perry Fewell was going to interview for the permanent head coaching position. It’s unclear if that is still the case.
It’s also unclear if cleaning house in the most dramatic way possible will be enough to entice one particular big fish in the coaching pond that reportedly spoke with the Bills last week.
January 4th, 2010 at 8:57 am
If Cables stayed his primary concerns should be a solid Quarterback and at least solidify one side of the offensive line.This should give the Raiders a fighting chance for 2010.
January 4th, 2010 at 8:58 am
3rd?
January 4th, 2010 at 8:59 am
Good morning AM crew.
January 4th, 2010 at 8:59 am
Mike White was fired on Xmas Eve!!!
January 4th, 2010 at 9:02 am
Good Morning Nation!
January 4th, 2010 at 9:02 am
Set the overhead projector in motion.
January 4th, 2010 at 9:03 am
a journeyman like Gradkowski probably could’ve led this team to 9-7 if he had the whole year under center.
We definitely do need a run-stuffing MLB and most importantly major upgrades on the o-line.
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I agree Chris in NY. well said
January 4th, 2010 at 9:03 am
the goofiest thing about this off-season…
the notion that it will be either Cable or Russell who goes…
not both…
so if Cable goes… we’re stuck with Russell…
if Russell goes… we’re stuck with Cable…
sometimes life just isn’t fair…
oh… and before strap-on gets his manic-depressive, obsessive-complusive, cut n’paste self wound up to speed of light mania…
i don’t care what you think.
January 4th, 2010 at 9:03 am
ULE,
LMAO
January 4th, 2010 at 9:04 am
Mista, set the overhead projector…..LMFAO!!!!
January 4th, 2010 at 9:05 am
Fire Cable Now!!!!!!!!!
January 4th, 2010 at 9:05 am
imagine if we drafted Monroe & Brace or Raji & Unger.
then paid $15 million per season to Ray Lewis & Brian Dawkins (combined of course) instead of Nnamdi
this team would be in the playoff hunt, regardless of the QB dilemma
January 4th, 2010 at 9:06 am
from Jerry prev post…
“But it’s also true Russell led the Raiders to their won over Denver and looked light years better Sunday in terms of being confident and decisive than he did through the first nine games.”
Jerry, I hate it when you and other reporters twist facts like above to support your argument. How about just calling it like it is.
In the Denver game, Russell was on the verge of disaster. He was lucky he only came in for a short time. In Yesterday’s game, he didnt even bother to look on his right side. He looked on only 1 side of the field (left and left middle). I was shocked to see that the Ravens didnt intercept more. There is a reason why Chaz Schilens had no comments regarding Jawalrus after the game! Please try and dissect a game like a good sports reporter next time.
January 4th, 2010 at 9:06 am
LMAO Pete!!!!!!!
January 4th, 2010 at 9:06 am
What odds are Vegas giving for Cable to go or stay?
January 4th, 2010 at 9:07 am
RR,
What about Orakpo?! He had 11 sacks last season, and 4 of them were against us.
He is a beast!
January 4th, 2010 at 9:08 am
Get over it (Al Davis) and No Comment (C. Schilens)!! Those two quotes or my all time favorite!!
January 4th, 2010 at 9:08 am
Al Davis is a players owner and he already publicly supported Russell once during the Kiffin bashing.
after seeing Russell play this year it’d be hilarious to hear Al Davis fire Cable & support Russell again.
“Tom, JaMarcus is a talented QB. get over it!”
Davis has much more $$$ invested in JR.
January 4th, 2010 at 9:09 am
is it me, or when routt doesn’t play in the slot, he is a very good cornerback. gave up a 7 yrd reception on a quick slant yesterday. other than that nothing. earlier in season, i 4get who we played (help me remember) he started 4 nnamdi and was pretty good as well. very confused as to why hiram eugene played more than huff yesterday. also matt shaunessy’s playing time has gone down as well. if you play well, u get benched or see little of the field. wtf is up with that???????????
January 4th, 2010 at 9:09 am
People keep saying we should’ve drafted Monroe. Wasn’t Monroe a bust in Jacksonville this season? I didn’t follow the situation all that closely but last I heard, about midway through, Monroe was in and out of the starting lineup because of shaky play.
Absolutely agree that DHB at No. 7 was a ridiculous pick.
I wanted to trade down and get Rey Maualuga (starting strong-side LB from Day 1 for playoff-bound Bengals) and Phil Loadholt (starting RT from Day 1 for playoff-bound Vikings). Both players slid into Round 2 so it’s reasonable we could’ve maneuvered our way back to get those guys and still walked away with Mike Mitchell, Louis Murphy, etc.
January 4th, 2010 at 9:09 am
Cable use of RB’s alone are grouns for termination.
January 4th, 2010 at 9:10 am
If we drafted Orakpo, then we could have moved Seymour inside instead of Warren. Run Defense would have been much better, and pass Rush would have improved.
January 4th, 2010 at 9:10 am
lmfao jim rome all over hi eugene in the opening of the show
January 4th, 2010 at 9:12 am
Osackpo is a monster. I wanted him too.
people trashed me for it though because he’s a tweener.
perfect SLB for Washington’s aggressive defense
Trevor Scott might be able to fill that position for us, or they could always slide Kirk Morrison there. I like Thomas Howard at WLB
January 4th, 2010 at 9:12 am
New England,
It’s harder to play the Slot for Some CBs because they don’t have the sideline to help.
January 4th, 2010 at 9:13 am
more than half of our problem on defense is kirk morrison. dude is ALWAYS out of position. thats why every time the opponent runs a cut back morrison is on the back of one of our dlinemen. also he takes very poor angles. like to see him move outside
January 4th, 2010 at 9:13 am
Jerry
I was watching Morning 2 News this morning and the crawler said expect Cable to be fired soon……..
January 4th, 2010 at 9:13 am
Chris Carr had a good game yesterday
January 4th, 2010 at 9:14 am
Yeah, I caught that highlight of Eugene getting absolutely embarrassed. Man!
January 4th, 2010 at 9:14 am
new englandraider Says:
January 4th, 2010 at 9:09 am
is it me, or when routt doesn’t play in the slot, he is a very good cornerback. gave up a 7 yrd reception on a quick slant yesterday. other than that nothing. earlier in season, i 4get who we played (help me remember) he started 4 nnamdi and was pretty good as well. very confused as to why hiram eugene played more than huff yesterday. also matt shaunessy’s playing time has gone down as well. if you play well, u get benched or see little of the field. wtf is up with that???????????
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I agree. Routt is much better on the outside. He started out there in 2007 but got bumped when we signed MeAngelo.
Routt is tough to beat deep on the outside because he’s one of the fastest players in the league. He seems to have much more trouble with short crossing patterns though. His change of direction and instincts seem to be somewhat lacking. He got completely turned around on that short slant for what was a key 3rd-down pickup.
January 4th, 2010 at 9:15 am
I like TH at WLB also, you need speed at that position and he is a fast LB. He thinks he can run a 4.3!!!!!!!
January 4th, 2010 at 9:16 am
i hear you raider o. im i wrong though? routt seems to play either side very well. slot, big problems. can anyone tell me why eugene was playing over huff. last week in cleveland mitchell hardly played because of eugene. this week huff doesnt play as much. u think huff or mitchell would’ve been beyotch slapped to the turf by willis? i would have loved to see mm alone in open field with him. either one in there, willis gets tackled
January 4th, 2010 at 9:17 am
T Scott is a Tweener. I didn’t think Orakpo was a tweener, but he is a great athlete who can also play LB. J Peppers can play SLB, but that doesn’t make him a tweener.
January 4th, 2010 at 9:18 am
I’m rooting for the Bengals, Ravens, Eagles & Cardinals this weekend.
don’t really care for the Jets, Patriots, Cowboys or Packers …
how about you guys ???
January 4th, 2010 at 9:18 am
as long as the patriots lose, thats like winning the super bowl 4 me
January 4th, 2010 at 9:20 am
I’d add one more thing we need this off-season is a big-time pass rusher. Seymour is more of a hold the point of attack collapse the pocket with a bullrush kind of guy. I’m talking about a DE who is on the QB’s back in 2 seconds. We almost never get that kind of pressure unless we blitz a few guys.
Osi Umenyiora had a falling out with the Giants and may be available. Other than that you generally have to find pass rushers in the draft. But how many times do opposing QBs drop back and feel no heat with the 4-man rush? Scott has the potential to maybe develop into a very good pass rusher, but he’s not quite there yet
January 4th, 2010 at 9:20 am
vegas raider Says:
January 4th, 2010 at 7:08 am
Mike Mitchell had more sacks than Rey M. , Ziggy Hood, Robert Ayers , BJ Raji, Ron Brace….
January 4th, 2010 at 9:20 am
Rockstar…
Not that bothered who wins the Superbowl as long as it’s not the Chargers or the Pats.
Just want some good football games!!
January 4th, 2010 at 9:21 am
Raider O:
to my understanding (which is very little) a tweener is somebody undersized on the D-Line or oversized at OLB.
can generally play both, especially if the player has strength & speed – which Orakpo has!
I’m sure they put on on the DL opposite Andre Carter at times to take advantage of a mismatch during the season…
January 4th, 2010 at 9:22 am
New England,
I didn’t watch the last game so I can’t talk about that, but he didn’t play well this season. I like how he played when we had Washington. I agree with you, he played well outside with Washington and Carr in the slot. I Never understood why we traded Washington for a 4th and traded a 2nd for Hall!!!!!!
January 4th, 2010 at 9:22 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
January 4th, 2010 at 9:12 am
Osackpo is a monster. I wanted him too.
people trashed me for it though because he’s a tweener.
perfect SLB for Washington’s aggressive defense
Trevor Scott might be able to fill that position for us, or they could always slide Kirk Morrison there. I like Thomas Howard at WLB
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probably the best decision this year…
beside benching Russell and DHB that is…
was putting Scott at linebacker…
we don’t need Morrison…
keeping him around would be a negative…
January 4th, 2010 at 9:22 am
new englandraider Says:
January 4th, 2010 at 9:09 am
is it me, or when routt doesn’t play in the slot, he is a very good cornerback.
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He admitted early in his career he is much more comfy on hte outside vs inside
January 4th, 2010 at 9:22 am
Al Davis you are a malignant cancer and you need to excise yourself. What a disgrace.
January 4th, 2010 at 9:23 am
marshall drew up a nice blitz yesterday, huff from one side mitchell from the other. i’ll meet you at the qb dawg
January 4th, 2010 at 9:23 am
God,
Please Please!!!! Not the Dischargers!!!!!!! I would move out of SD!!!
January 4th, 2010 at 9:24 am
let’s just start this offseason early…
Michael Vick, Terrell Owens & Pacman Jones to Oakland ???
LOL
January 4th, 2010 at 9:24 am
i think we traded fabian because he was too short. a lot of the time he had very good coverage and still gave up receptions because of his height
January 4th, 2010 at 9:25 am
Doesn’t Pacman return kicks??
January 4th, 2010 at 9:27 am
Gotta think the Chargers will blow it at some point. I’m torn because I think the Chargers and Colts will wind up in the AFC Championship game.
Obviously I’d hate for the Chargers to go to the SB, but I’d also hate for the Colts to get there after quitting on a 16-0 season and have that strategy vindicated.
January 4th, 2010 at 9:27 am
Kirk Morrison sucks at MLB…he ran into a Dlineman on that one 44yd run by Rice and then was MIA on that 77yd Yd run by McGayhee…Trevor Scott is a beast at LB…keep him there…Need to get a runstuffing MLB and interior DL
January 4th, 2010 at 9:27 am
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January 4th, 2010 at 9:28 am
pacman likes to hang out at the “scrip clubs” maybe he and JyRannosauRUSs can go partners. scrip club. lmfaooooooooooooooo
January 4th, 2010 at 9:28 am
make it rain jawalrus!
January 4th, 2010 at 9:29 am
miketyson # 51, morrison has a bad habit of running up the dlineman’s azz. never in the right spot. well wont say never, but 90% of the time he is not in the correct spot
January 4th, 2010 at 9:30 am
Talking about JaHamburger…..Did you guys see how huge he is???
January 4th, 2010 at 9:32 am
If Al Davis is a “players coach” then he shouldn’t fire Tom Cable since the players love him and have nuthing to say about JaMarcus Russell….”No Comment” – Chaz Schilens….”we woulda made the playoffs without him” – Tom Cable….
January 4th, 2010 at 9:33 am
Why doesn’t Al do this???
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/01/04/dan-snyder-accepts-responsibilities-for-mistakes-that-i-have-made/
January 4th, 2010 at 9:34 am
RR,
He is 6′3 260 so some will consider him short for a DE, but don’t tell D Freeney or Usi that.
Usi is 6′3 260, and Freeney is 6′1.
January 4th, 2010 at 9:35 am
roger said he dont want me going to the scrip club. i dont think theres nothing wrong with going to the scrip club. well said pacman. classic
January 4th, 2010 at 9:36 am
Like an earlier poster said, the fact that the players are talking up Cable means we REALLY need to fire him.
Cable is deflecting the blame from every other player and coach except Russell. Of course they love him.
It’s not our fault we suck, it’s Russell’s fault is what Cable is telling the players. You guys are great! I know it, I believe it. If only it wasn’t for Russell dumb arse DHB, you would have been a stud. If not for Russell, Morris, you would’ve been able to drive block someone. Cornbread? Helluva year guy. If not for that damn Russell, I’m sure you would’ve got some pro bowl consideration.
Not buying it!
January 4th, 2010 at 9:37 am
test
January 4th, 2010 at 9:38 am
Grading Eugene Monroe
by Tkopa on Dec 25, 2009 12:27 AM EST in Post Game 22 comments
As promised, here is the pictorial analysis of Eugene Monroe. Sometimes I go over the top in either my praise or criticism, I know this about myself. But as I looked over the 2,500 pictures from the last three home games, I noticed a number of interesting developments. One was Eben Britton wasn’t playing up to his press and I reported that. The other was Eugene Monroe hasn’t been getting enough press. I saw some amazing plays he was pulling off. I wanted to go to press with this news, but waited until the Colts game and the rematch with Dwight Freeney. Dwight feasted on Eugene early in the season so I was curious about this meeting. My jaw dropped as I reviewed the battle between the two of them. I looked at the photos over and over just to be sure. To me there is no mistake, Eugene Monroe has developed into a top NFL Left Tackle. I am going so far as to say two things:
1) Eugene Monroe will be a pro bowl caliber tackle. He may already be that.
2) Eugene Monroe is the best first round draft pick of the Del Rio era.
January 4th, 2010 at 9:39 am
Cut JaM0nkey
Cut the Cable (who the fauk has Cable anyway, get sat)
Hire Gruden. We win.
Wont happen though. Al is too old.
January 4th, 2010 at 9:40 am
Okay, Chris in NY,
look at #63, that is a take on Monroe from a Jags’ blog…looks like he struggled at first but rounded into shape quite well by season’s end.
Yes we should have drafted Monroe over DHB…no question about it.
January 4th, 2010 at 9:40 am
dakota, wassup bro? pau hamsting. oh boy. here we go again
January 4th, 2010 at 9:41 am
We need to draft an offensive tackle and a defensive tackle.
If we we were stronger at those two positions, everyone else on the team would be better.
January 4th, 2010 at 9:42 am
our m.v.p. this season…. either lechler, seabass, or whoever stepped on dhb’s foot. maybe he can catch a spike in his hands too
January 4th, 2010 at 9:42 am
Russell: 1287 yards, 3 TD, 11 INT
Cassel: 2924 yards, 16 TD, 16 INT (1st year with new team & new HC)
Orton: 3802 yards, 21 TD, 12 INT (1st year with new team & new HC)
Rivers: 4254 yards, 28 TD, 9 INT (Norv Turner at HC)
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before the season started I said that we have the worst QB in the division and everybody blasted me. LOL
January 4th, 2010 at 9:42 am
JaM0nkey makes Ryan Leaf look like a Hall of Famer. No more comparing 1st round busts to Ryan Leaf, they are and will now be compared to JaM0nkey Russell. I am sure Ryan Leaf is not happy for once in his life. I can already see a “where are they now” on Ryan Leaf and how his life completely changed and turned around after the Raiders drafted the fat loser JaM0nkey.
January 4th, 2010 at 9:42 am
New Englandraider…is there any news on Pau’s injury? I am hoping it wasn’t too bad and they just kept him out of the game last night because it was a blowout.
January 4th, 2010 at 9:43 am
If the decision is keeping Cables or Russell I would would give the nod to Cable.I would like to keep Russell and continue to develop him if possible, but I would definitely not count on him to be the starter!!!
Russell is still a major liability and shows very little desire to be great. I would love to see the fire for desire blowing out of his nostrils.I just don’t see that coming from Russell.
It will be more difficult to protect Russell as QB than a QB like frye or Gradkowski.first, Russell needs a wider protection circumference around him because of his large dimension, lack for ideal footwork in the pocket, and average passing release time.Second, the line most hold their blocks longer because if the defense makes a brushing contact with Russell he is prone to fumble.This will make the protection more challeging for the Raiders.
January 4th, 2010 at 9:43 am
# RaiderRockstar Says:
January 4th, 2010 at 9:42 am
Russell: 1287 yards, 3 TD, 11 INT
Cassel: 2924 yards, 16 TD, 16 INT (1st year with new team & new HC)
Orton: 3802 yards, 21 TD, 12 INT (1st year with new team & new HC)
Rivers: 4254 yards, 28 TD, 9 INT (Norv Turner at HC)
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before the season started I said that we have the worst QB in the division and everybody blasted me. LOL
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Not EVERYONE bro. I hated that fat azz the day we drafted him. Stupid azz fat moron.
January 4th, 2010 at 9:46 am
Tomlinson averaged less than 3.3 yards per carry this season! hahaha
Bush, McFadden and even Fargas have a better YPC stat. LOL
January 4th, 2010 at 9:48 am
dakota, they said during broadcast that he straines left hamstring. right hamstring is what kept him out earlier. then on nba tv they said he tweaked the hammy a few games ago. so i dunno. they said he will have an ultra sound today. bynums play certainly gets better without pau. however, we go nowhere without pau. ron ron cleared to practice 2day, should be able to play 2morrow vs houston
January 4th, 2010 at 9:50 am
how about the bench last night? wow farmar, brown and even sasha shot the ball well. anyone know why huff didnt play that much yesterday? theres got to be a reason why eugene plays ahead of these guys. it is certainly not performance.
January 4th, 2010 at 9:51 am
We’ll be fine New Englandraider…Celtics are struggling with injuries too.
Just as long as we are healthy in May and June right!
January 4th, 2010 at 9:52 am
Good morning nation. Happy new years to all.
January 4th, 2010 at 9:55 am
I hope the axe falls on Cable…repeatedly. Chop him up into little bits and feed him to the fishes.
Metaphorically speaking of course…
January 4th, 2010 at 9:58 am
What would the season look like if Russell and DHB were on the bench the entire season?
January 4th, 2010 at 9:59 am
you leave my Pau outta this =)
January 4th, 2010 at 9:59 am
8-8?
January 4th, 2010 at 10:00 am
Tom Cable…the man without a plan…the buck passer…the wife beater…
…the Buffoon…
I can’t wait for the axe to fall on this clueless coach.
January 4th, 2010 at 10:00 am
I know u shouldn’t play players but come on…EVERYONE KNOWS Russell is a Bust!!!
January 4th, 2010 at 10:01 am
Woulda,coulda,shoulda…….don’t go there.It’ll just drive you nuts.
January 4th, 2010 at 10:01 am
Send Cable to Bolivian…right Mike Tyson?
January 4th, 2010 at 10:02 am
DMAC Says:
January 4th, 2010 at 9:58 am
What would the season look like if Russell and DHB were on the bench the entire season?
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5-11! MAYBE 6-10, lol!
This team is who we THOUGHT they were!
January 4th, 2010 at 10:03 am
ahh….a plase of mind and body
January 4th, 2010 at 10:03 am
plaCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCe
January 4th, 2010 at 10:04 am
Don’t worry about Pau ..
PJ just getting Bynum back on track.
January 4th, 2010 at 10:05 am
Got that Dennis Green clip Jhill ?
January 4th, 2010 at 10:07 am
So I wonder what’s going on at the facility this morning?
Who’s there?
Who’s not?
Who had the Uhaul packed up Saturday night?
January 4th, 2010 at 10:12 am
Who had the Uhaul packed up Saturday night?
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Seymour & Seabass …
January 4th, 2010 at 10:14 am
Russell finally showsled some emotion after the sack fumble when he ripped the chin strap off the helmet as he waddled off the field….and wtf is up with his mouth open all the time? looks like he’s waiting for a fly to go in there
January 4th, 2010 at 10:16 am
Miketyson…
Ref the open mouth.You never had goldfish?
January 4th, 2010 at 10:18 am
fade into bolivian. lmfaoooooooo0000000000000. classic tyson quote. best one was “i wish u guys had children so i could kick em in the head and stomp on their testicles”. damn i miss iron mike
January 4th, 2010 at 10:22 am
i dont think we have to worry about seabass going anywhere. davis will pay him. dude really missed only 1 fg. 45 yrds. two other misses, 57 and 67 yrds. dont should’ve been in probowl. got robbed again. remember 1 yr he was 28-33 with 3 of the misses in a game against tenn two days after getting his nugget pouch pierced. they said he had gout at the time. dude got robbed and so didn’t tyvon branch. branch had a great year in what was essentially his rookie year seeing as tho he didnt play last year. dude boyd looked good on st’s. made a nice tackle or 2
January 4th, 2010 at 10:23 am
Things to do,enjoy your Monday.
January 4th, 2010 at 10:23 am
Ref the open mouth.You never had goldfish?
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LMFAO!
Ahhh man!
Russell is such an easy target. Sometimes it doesn’t even seem fair. He gives us so much material.
He really needs to understand the phrase perception is reality.
January 4th, 2010 at 10:24 am
so Dakota, do I have to wait until next August to rue the day? Yesterday DMAC looked like the unparalleled bust he is, especially when he bobbled that simple screen.
Trade DMAC, start Bush, cut Russell and keep Cable. In seven years we haven’t had another coach who can both work with Al and get the players to be men.
Did I really say trade DMAC? I meant cut the bust.
January 4th, 2010 at 10:24 am
So is Al going to fire Cable and force Marshall on the new HC?
Or is the entire staff gone? Except Wille Brown of course.
January 4th, 2010 at 10:25 am
# Raider O Says:
January 4th, 2010 at 9:23 am
God,
Please Please!!!! Not the Dischargers!!!!!!! I would move out of SD!!!
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Considering Norv is in the running for Coach of the Year?
Might be a loooong offseason for ya down south.
January 4th, 2010 at 10:25 am
and get the players to be men.
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An example of that being ….
January 4th, 2010 at 10:27 am
# Florida Pete Says:
January 4th, 2010 at 9:03 am
the goofiest thing about this off-season…
the notion that it will be either Cable or Russell who goes…
not both…
so if Cable goes… we’re stuck with Russell…
if Russell goes… we’re stuck with Cable…
sometimes life just isn’t fair…
oh… and before strap-on gets his manic-depressive, obsessive-complusive, cut n’paste self wound up to speed of light mania…
i don’t care what you think.
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Dude..the fact you signed on JUST TO POST REFERENCING “HE THAT HAS YOU ALL OBSESSED” means you not only care, you just can’t wait for another head slap.
You’re rather pathetic..aren’t you?
Other day
Petey: “I NEVER respond to Richochet”
VERY NEXT POST YOU RESPOND TO ME.
Petey: “I NEVER read anything he says”
VERY NEXT POST YOU QUOTE ME.
Dude..you’re rather new at this, aren’t you?
Now..pretend you didn’t read this, lol..
January 4th, 2010 at 10:27 am
Which one was worse ????
Russell saying he was playing OK at QB?
or
Cable saying he was an exceptional play caller?
January 4th, 2010 at 10:29 am
post 100, boschem, i agree with most of ur posts and think dmac, well sux. however the pass frye threw to dmac was very high. dmac did his best to leap up, get a fingertip on the ball and try to juggle it in. had satele no whiffed on his block, dmac would have caught the ball and had at least a 10yrd gain. bad throw ( frye was under heavy pressure as henderson was flat out beat on that play also) and bad blocking. how many screens have we seen where an olineman ( either coop or satele) flat out miss a block, or we get flagged for ineligible down field. most every screen we try its either 1 or the other
January 4th, 2010 at 10:30 am
Why the hell does Eugene even see the field?
January 4th, 2010 at 10:31 am
# jhill Says:
January 4th, 2010 at 9:36 am
Like an earlier poster said, the fact that the players are talking up Cable means we REALLY need to fire him.
Cable is deflecting the blame from every other player and coach except Russell. Of course they love him.
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Of course.
Players love having a head coach that doesn’t hold them accountable.
Love having a head coach that ‘allows’ them to make mistakes without getting in their face.
Love knowing that once they get on the field, takes an act of God or a massive collapose (See JR) in order to be benched.
Of course, once Cable is fired? MOST OF THOSE PLAYERS will publicly back Al’s decision as “it’s probably best for the team”
January 4th, 2010 at 10:32 am
al davis listen to ur players and keep Tom Cable!!!
January 4th, 2010 at 10:33 am
Interesting that the top two guys on the team who’s heads are on the line are the ONLY ONES who are stating they’re happy/satisfied with how they did this year.
January 4th, 2010 at 10:34 am
jhill Says:
January 4th, 2010 at 10:25 am
and get the players to be men.
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An example of that being ….
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Lower penalties; few, if any, selfish players remaining on the roster; banishing Javon; no arrests; many quotes from players praising Cable’s honesty; notable late season team effort.
Personally, I am most impressed by the reduction in penalties.
January 4th, 2010 at 10:34 am
i see some of the young talent on this team starting to come around. murphy had a great 2nd half to his rookie season. chaz if healthy could be a jerry porter type. i mean when porter actually tried. scott getting better. huff same thing. branch shaunessy, missle mike. is it me or did it seem that shaunessy wasnt getting as much playing time in recent weeks. played an outstandind 1st half vs cleveland ( sack and 2 tackles for loss) and barely sees field in 2nd half. allow me to quote the 25th letter of the alphabet…. “yyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy”
January 4th, 2010 at 10:35 am
I’m STILL waiting for someone to post a reason other than Jamarcus Russell as to why we should keep Cable?
Rockstar says just for continuity. I would think someone would be able to point to a specific area ON THE FIELD that would say, yup, that’s it.
Oline play?
Personell moves?
Defense?
DHB, Bush, McFadden’s development?
ANYTHING ???????
January 4th, 2010 at 10:36 am
new englandraider Says:
January 4th, 2010 at 10:29 am
post 100, boschem, i agree with most of ur posts and think dmac, well sux. however the pass frye threw to dmac was very high. dmac did his best to leap up, get a fingertip on the ball and try to juggle it in. had satele no whiffed on his block, dmac would have caught the ball and had at least a 10yrd gain. bad throw ( frye was under heavy pressure as henderson was flat out beat on that play also) and bad blocking. how many screens have we seen where an olineman ( either coop or satele) flat out miss a block, or we get flagged for ineligible down field. most every screen we try its either 1 or the other
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Perhaps, but once he had his hands on it DMAC took several steps and STILL dropped it. In fact he almost pitched forward to the defender.
In short, DMAC has done absolutely nothing to justify his draft status. Maybe keeping Rathman would have helped, but not enough.
January 4th, 2010 at 10:37 am
Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
January 4th, 2010 at 10:34 am
jhill Says:
January 4th, 2010 at 10:25 am
and get the players to be men.
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An example of that being ….
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Lower penalties; few, if any, selfish players remaining on the roster; banishing Javon; no arrests; many quotes from players praising Cable’s honesty; notable late season team effort.
Personally, I am most impressed by the reduction in penalties.
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How is that an example of getting players to be men? Did you see the meltdown penalty wise last week in Cleve?
Did you hear the players talking about throwing footballs at guys heads this week “like it was the last week of school?”
January 4th, 2010 at 10:38 am
man i dunno why eugene plays. that is a very good question. he is our 4th best safety, but yet only branch gets more playing time. man, murphy is going to be a beast. dude always gets open. cant wait to see him next season. i dunno who picked him or shaunessy, but very good picks. i think MM is going to be solid also. maybe not 2nd round material yet, but he was a better pick than jruss, dmac, or dhb… no?
January 4th, 2010 at 10:39 am
If Cable gets the boot, who does Al turn to??
January 4th, 2010 at 10:39 am
jhill Says:
January 4th, 2010 at 10:35 am
I’m STILL waiting for someone to post a reason other than Jamarcus Russell as to why we should keep Cable?
Rockstar says just for continuity. I would think someone would be able to point to a specific area ON THE FIELD that would say, yup, that’s it.
Oline play?
Personell moves?
Defense?
DHB, Bush, McFadden’s development?
ANYTHING ???????
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Fewer penalties.
Motivated players.
Production from Zach and Chaz.
And as for the personnel moves, I expect Cable had some role in getting Seymour.
January 4th, 2010 at 10:41 am
why we should keep Cable?
Rockstar says just for continuity.
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Jhill: I never said we should keep Cable. I did say that coaching turnover has hurt the team though.
If we cut Cable I think we should hire a HC and just let him stay for 4 years despite the W/L record. takes a new HC a while to get “his guys” in the fold.
However, Cable’s favorites include Hiram Eugene, Gerard Warren, Justin Fargas & Cornell Green.
this means he has some serious decision making flaws with personnel without even delving into specifics regarding his play calling.
January 4th, 2010 at 10:43 am
i hear you bo. we could sit here all day and discuss dmac’s problems. i think frye made a very high throw because of the rush and as i said b4, had satele not whiffed on the block dmac makes that catch. had he made the catch, we probably get flagged for ineligible down field. i think hendersons poor play has killed us. his job is to protect the qb’s blind side. he got grads killed, got frye killed, and well jruss i think has 4 blind sides. point being maybe gallery’s absence doesn’t help henderson, but the dude flat out sux in the 4th quarter. out of shape perhaps
January 4th, 2010 at 10:43 am
Jhill, if you don’t see a drastic reduction in penalties as an example of players being men than so be it.
Penalties have been a team cancer for MANY years. Playing smarter is HUGE, especially when the meddling owner publically states discipline is not a priority. Especially for such a young team.
January 4th, 2010 at 10:46 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
January 4th, 2010 at 10:41 am
However, Cable’s favorites include Hiram Eugene, Gerard Warren, Justin Fargas & Cornell Green.
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Hmmmm. I think Cable’s favorites also include Seymour, Henderson, Miller, CJohnson, Grads and Schilens.
January 4th, 2010 at 10:47 am
man, im on the fence with the whole cable thing. lets not 4get we had a tough schedule. there are pro and cons when it comes to cable. would like to see gruden come back, but doubtful. next year you can almost guarantee our top 3 wrs will be a 3rd yr player and two 2nd yr players. changing the play book may not be a good idea. also, wouldnt mind seeing trestman. dude was a fiery m’er f’er. he and gannon had some classic blow ups. i just dont know about constantly changing coaches. what do u guys think of DENNIS GREENE?
January 4th, 2010 at 10:49 am
Jhill, the penalty festival against Cleveland was the weekly norm for Turner, Callahan, Kiffin and Shell. Because it only happened once and was not repeated says a lot about the coaches effort.
January 4th, 2010 at 10:49 am
wouldn’t mind seeing fargass return kicks. our st’s blocking is awful though. how many times did we see our guys not even make the 15 yrd line? much less the 20. blocking horrible.
January 4th, 2010 at 10:49 am
I think Cable’s favorites also include Seymour, Henderson, Miller, CJohnson, Grads and Schilens.
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well sure, you might as well throw Nnamdi & Shane in there too.
I’m talking about players who don’t deserve to be in the starting lineup or even receive considerable playing time – not the best players on the roster!
players with TALENT would be any coach’s favorites… thats not any surprise
January 4th, 2010 at 10:49 am
BSPN is reporting AL is getting ready to fire Cable!!
January 4th, 2010 at 10:50 am
Look under The Lead on ticker of BSPN!
January 4th, 2010 at 10:50 am
false start # 74 offense. 5 yard penalty repeat 1st down
January 4th, 2010 at 10:51 am
Dennis Green = complete bozo.
If Al does dump Cable, Gilbride is the only possible replacement I would be eager to see. God help us if either Hackett or Tollner get the job. Or another 12 year old like Lance.
January 4th, 2010 at 10:52 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
January 4th, 2010 at 10:49 am
I think Cable’s favorites also include Seymour, Henderson, Miller, CJohnson, Grads and Schilens.
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well sure, you might as well throw Nnamdi & Shane in there too.
I’m talking about players who don’t deserve to be in the starting lineup or even receive considerable playing time – not the best players on the roster!
players with TALENT would be any coach’s favorites… thats not any surprise
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So you blame the coach for not having studs at every position?
January 4th, 2010 at 10:55 am
if we had to choose one or the other, morrison or howard? i like howard, or move morrison back outside. dude might be good at playing the defensive “qb” but he needs to learn gap responsibilities and someone posted yesterday how his 1st step is always towards ball carrier and hence the poor angles. if ray lewis is his idle he ought to do some work with him or watch film. stu scweigert used to do the same thing take a step at ball carrier, next thing u know, right by him. u see the lewis graphics they were showing dude runs side to side and meets someone at a spo. kirk tries to go upfield like they gonna stop and wait for him. HOWARD OR MORRISON?
January 4th, 2010 at 10:55 am
Russell is a great quarterback, Get over it! -Al Davis
OMG can we get Jon Gruden in here. Rumor has it that Ron Wolf wants to come out of retirement too.
January 4th, 2010 at 10:56 am
New England,
If you are on the fence about Cable, you may also be on the fence about being “happy.”
Please sir fall on the correct side which is the one currently being reported by ESPN.
January 4th, 2010 at 10:56 am
And RRS, you claim Grads, Henderson, Johnson and Schilens are the best, most talented players?
The personnel moves this year, under Cable, are far better than we have seen since 2003. Sure there is plenty of room for upgrade, but I’d like to give Cable some credit for encouraging Al to stop overpaying for known bums like DeAngelo, Walker and Sands.
January 4th, 2010 at 10:57 am
BSJ,
Ugh. Gilbride is the only replacement whose name I’ve heard mentioned who I want absolutely no part of.
He’s been a head coach before and had a worse record than Cable.
He exhibits the passion and fire of Norv Turner.
He’s not 1/10th the play-caller Norv Turner is.
He’s the master of calling low-percentage 50-yard bombs on 3rd and inches rather than opting for high-percentage move the chains type plays.
He’s a journeyman 60-year-old coach who only has one head coaching job in his career (Chargers, late 90s) and flamed out miserably. This is the guy you want?
Give me Jim Fassel over Gilbride any day.
January 4th, 2010 at 10:58 am
Can anyone give three reasons why Cable should be our coach next year?
1.
2.
3.
January 4th, 2010 at 11:00 am
new englandraider Says:
January 4th, 2010 at 10:49 am
wouldn’t mind seeing fargass return kicks. our st’s blocking is awful though. how many times did we see our guys not even make the 15 yrd line? much less the 20. blocking horrible.
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To be fair to the blockers, our KR guys were slow and/or tenative. No offense to Gary Russell, who I kind of like in some roles, but what other team has their backup FB returning kicks? And he was better than Holland or anyone else we trotted out there this season.
January 4th, 2010 at 11:02 am
BSJ,
What makes you think Cable encouraged Al to not sign FAs to big money deals last offseason? Maybe Al’s bank account encouraged him not to sign big money guys last offseason.
January 4th, 2010 at 11:02 am
OK Chris, screw Gilbride too. I just cannot find another candidate who would come to Oakland and be an improvement over Cable. A new OC (Trestman?) paired with a better QB is the best scenario I could see actually happening.
January 4th, 2010 at 11:03 am
here’s the thing…
davis wants to be the one who gets the credit for turning this ship around…
hiring anyone at this point in time to be the GM or personnel guy or whatever… is not something Davis will do…
because he knows the credit will go to that person…
so there will be no Wolf, or any other person to whom credit could be assigned…
Davis might hire a new HC… but it will be someone who has never had success at the HC level…
i honestly do believe Al Davis IS concerned with his legacy… and it is for that reason he will insist on doing it all himself…
Davis wants all the credit…
January 4th, 2010 at 11:04 am
I AGREE CHRIS, we didnt exactly have world beaters returning kicks. but our blocking was just not good. holland is quick. u see how fast he gets around the corner on field goal attempts and pat’s. lmfao
January 4th, 2010 at 11:04 am
Let’s play Detective….
JP Losman played for who in the UFL? =
There’s your new Coach
Do the math!
January 4th, 2010 at 11:04 am
Regarding the post below:
It was fairly obvious to me that JR was going to be a bust but after he was drafted I had hoped for a different outcome.
Here is why:
1. Very few college starts
2. Strugggled against good defenses that put any pressure on him at all. (aka against Florida)
3. Had first round WRs all around him that were like 7-11 (always open). I think I could get a 80 rating with that offense.
Yes he could make all the throws but he had no record of really battling when under pressure weaving passes in, scrabling for time etc… When he came in overweight even though everyone stated this as a concern I then knew that my hope was a hope against hope. Davis quipped that Kiffin did not want JR but that he needed to get over it. This means this mistake is clearly on AD. AD needs to delegate and back off and let people that can put in more time evaluating players make these decisions.
I do not think we can get anything better than Cable unless there is a radical change of heart with AD (about as likely as JR working out).
As for JR (if he ever wants to play in the nFl) he needs to really really work. He is not even close to being there. He does have a arm and size and some experience to build on.
AW
# RaiderRockstar Says:
January 4th, 2010 at 9:42 am
Russell: 1287 yards, 3 TD, 11 INT
Cassel: 2924 yards, 16 TD, 16 INT (1st year with new team & new HC)
Orton: 3802 yards, 21 TD, 12 INT (1st year with new team & new HC)
Rivers: 4254 yards, 28 TD, 9 INT (Norv Turner at HC)
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before the season started I said that we have the worst QB in the division and everybody blasted me. LOL
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Not EVERYONE bro. I hated that fat azz the day we drafted him. Stupid azz fat moron.
January 4th, 2010 at 11:05 am
AlDavis Stopwatch Says:
January 4th, 2010 at 11:02 am
BSJ,
What makes you think Cable encouraged Al to not sign FAs to big money deals last offseason? Maybe Al’s bank account encouraged him not to sign big money guys last offseason.
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I said I’d like to give Cable some credit for it. No one knows the true impact he has had, but Al’s decisions did get a lot better. For once we have a team with no obvious quitters and thugs.
January 4th, 2010 at 11:07 am
The personnel moves this year, under Cable, are far better than we have seen since 2003. Sure there is plenty of room for upgrade, but I’d like to give Cable some credit for encouraging Al to stop overpaying for known bums like DeAngelo, Walker and Sands.
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Hiram Eugene, Gerard Warren, Justin Fargas & Cornell Green are “known bums” still on the roster. so is Javon Walker. did you mean Gibril Wilson perhaps?
and if you’re going to say that Cable is responsible for personnel moves, you also have to give him credit for that wonderful draft (sarcasm intended)
January 4th, 2010 at 11:07 am
Good reasoning Pete. We had all better start saving for another billboard….
January 4th, 2010 at 11:08 am
AlDavis Stopwatch Says:
January 4th, 2010 at 10:58 am
Can anyone give three reasons why Cable should be our coach next year?
1.
2.
3.
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I’m actually leaning toward canning Cable, but I do prefer him over some options out there like Gilbride and could live with one more year of the Cable guy. So:
1. JaMarcus sucks. This is the guy Cable was saddled with for his first 21 games and JaMarcus was obviously the biggest factor dragging down the entire team. When Cable switched to a couple of castoff journeymen QBs the offense responded much better and actually made some plays and won some games. It was proof that with even a pair of inexperienced castoff QBs Cable could have some success against good teams.
2. The players played hard for him just about every week. We won or were extremely competitive in a lot of games down the stretch both years. In the past (under Callahan and Norv among others) the team completely mailed it in the second half of the season.
3. He’s got what seems to be a pretty good working relationship with Al Davis. He seems to recognize it’s Al’s team and is willing to work with him rather than butting heads and leading to nonsensical distractions and personal battles that divert energies away from the games at hand.
There you go. I’m sure I could come up with a long list of reasons he should be fired as well, so I’m not saying he should stay. But I’d really like to know who the replacement will be before saying he should definitely go.
January 4th, 2010 at 11:08 am
the one problem i do have with cable is better players sitting the bench while others play. kwame harris, hi eugene, fargas, dhb
January 4th, 2010 at 11:09 am
Bo,
I guess you will have to wait until 2010 to rue the day, but that is okay…we will soon be rid of Cable and hopefully the o-line will get some attention this offseason and you will then pay for your doubting ways.
muhahahahahaaaaa
January 4th, 2010 at 11:11 am
AlDavis Stopwatch Says:
January 4th, 2010 at 10:58 am
Can anyone give three reasons why Cable should be our coach next year?
1.
2.
3.
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1. Players respect him, and want him to return
2.3-5 Road record was best in 7 years.
3. We are turning the corner, and we are so close (his words)
January 4th, 2010 at 11:12 am
Fargas is not a known bum, RRS. And Warren is better than Terdell, by far. Also, you and I both know the coach has no say over the early draft picks (which is why we should trade them all away).
The personnel moves that MIGHT have been influenced by Cable have been encouraging. He did bench Al’s pet walrus, you know. I wish he had done the same with DMAC.
January 4th, 2010 at 11:12 am
i’ve read a lot of posts from the older fans in here about cliff branch not being able to catch early in his career. is there any hope for DHB?
January 4th, 2010 at 11:13 am
LMFAO al’s pet walrus
January 4th, 2010 at 11:14 am
Dakota Says:
January 4th, 2010 at 11:09 am
Bo,
I guess you will have to wait until 2010 to rue the day, but that is okay…we will soon be rid of Cable and hopefully the o-line will get some attention this offseason and you will then pay for your doubting ways.
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Strange how Bush and Fargas did notably better in YPC behind the same oline. AND fumbled far less often.
Oline = red herring.
January 4th, 2010 at 11:15 am
Cable’s picks: Kwame Harris, John Wade, Samson Satele, Cornell Green, Cooper Carlisle, Erik Pears, Langston Walker
his specialty: O-Line
his hire for the new OL coach from Cal actually caused the OL to regress this season. our QB’s got killed and the running game was non existant for 3/4 of the season
January 4th, 2010 at 11:16 am
AlDavis Stopwatch Says:
January 4th, 2010 at 10:58 am
Can anyone give three reasons why Cable should be our coach next year?
1.
2.
3.
I have only two reasons:
1. unless AD changes his ways, we will not get a coach any better than Cable.
2. If we would have junked JR after the first two games we likely would have been 8-8 or 9-7 and perhaps competing for a wildcard berth. I seriously doubt Cable “if allowed to coach” would have kept JR in so long nor would he of put DHB in so much so soon.
I am resigned to believe that the Raiders will SUCK until Al Davis relinguishes and delegates no matter who is the coach.
January 4th, 2010 at 11:17 am
Kirk is no good as D-QB….we are always “just” getting into position,it seems
January 4th, 2010 at 11:18 am
I think Fassel might be the frontrunner for the job. Why?
- He expressed interest last off-season but in hindsight it was clear Al already had his mind made up to stick with Cable coming off back-to-back wins.
- Fassel is a proven winner. Winning career NFL record. Coach of the Year winner. Multiple NFC East division titles. Super Bowl appearance. UFL championship (I realize that last one is fishing, but still, he beat 3 other former NFL HCs).
- If Al is hoping to still get something out of JaMarcus, Fassel has had success mentoring several big-armed QBs in the past (Elway, Simms, Kerry Collins).
- He’s worked for the Raiders before.
- His son is the special teams coach.
- He was in the house a few weeks back for a game. Days later Fassel’s UFL QB, Losman, was signed by the Raiders. Coincidence?
January 4th, 2010 at 11:19 am
i will give Cable credit for one thing…
he dismantled the potential for the easy transition to a new head coach before it started…
refusing to hire an OC was and will continue to be his best move toward job security…
hiring a new head coach at this time automatically means a new OC and a new system… not a thing to wish for right now…
but were Cable to hire an OC… well… Cable would be much more easily disposed of… especially if that OC was effective…
so…
don’t look for an OC for as long as Cable is Head Coach…
you will have stability though…
5-11… 8-8… that’ll be the spread of the potential records under Cable…
now that’s stability…
everybody knows when their season will end before the season begins…
January 4th, 2010 at 11:21 am
Chris on your answers:
1: Our O-Line sucks and that’s on Cable. Gradkowski fared better because he can feel a pass rush and get his butt outta there and buy some time to find open guys because we got WRs who can get open with time. Many of Gradkowski plays were broken and he used his feet to position himself to make throws or just run for yds. Cable’s play-calling and OC game plans are still horrible no matter the QB.
2: We had quite a few blowouts this year so I wouldn’t classify that as playing hard. We played hard in the close games but not all the games.
3: He works good with AD? A week ago today he said we would be playing for a playoff spot if it weren’t for the guy AD defended when he FIRED Kiffin. AD sent Herrera down to blow the dust off the overhead projector after those statements. And lets forget for a second about Russell’s production and turn our attention to AD’s next prize possession, DMAC. McFadden has arguably contributed far less than Russell and AD can’t be too pleased about it. DMAC should have been given many touches (opportunities) per game. Yeah Cable works well with AD.
January 4th, 2010 at 11:21 am
There is all the hope in the world for DHB….
As we can see the kid is a very hard worker.He will need to.But there is no reason he cant be a great WR like Barnwell or almost a Branch,imo
January 4th, 2010 at 11:22 am
BSJ: how do we truly know which players came from Al or Tom?
of course you’re going to say he convinced Al to draft Shaughnessy, Murphy, Myers, etc. (ie. the good picks) but DHB, Mitchell, Norris & Sulak were all on Davis, right?
and Cable convinced Al to trade for Seymour, but he had no part in the signings of Barnes or Boschetti. right?
he had no part in the decision to bench a highly paid & healthy Walker, but was the reason Greg Ellis & Bruce gradkowski signed here?
come on man.
January 4th, 2010 at 11:24 am
Thank goodness, Cable is out. The real cable guy jim cary could have done a better job. I love the fact that no.2 gave an honest assessment of his own performance, and I hope he follows through with his verbal commitment to work hard this offseason. Sounds like he is feeling the heat, and maybe pride is kicking in. Better late then never. A new coach is going to demand that no.2 proves himself. We have one of the worst offensive lines in the league hands down. I would like to see what no.2 can do when he is not under the kind of pressure that defenses have been able to put on all of our qb’s this year. The fact that the back ups couldn’t stay healthy illustrate cable’s short comings. Johny Unitas would look like crap behind this o-line. The raiders should bring in a solid offense minded head coach, that is willing to get in his guys face. Let this head coach bring a veteran q’b of his own choosing. Allow competition for the starting qb spot. The coach also needs to institute a special qb school for no.2 teaching him the scheme concepts , playbook, and all of the nuances. While at the same time building a relationship with no.2. If no.2 loses the competition he has veteran he can shadow until he is ready to step in. In the draft draft for d tackle, o-line and mlb. Hopefully this is waht we will see unfold over the next few months. Latly no.2 needs to stick around this off season. Go home for a week or 2, maybe even 3, after that you need to in alameda at least five days a week, working on something. This way you can at least be prepared when the new guy comes in, and you can get a jump start on the new coaches scheme and philosophy.
January 4th, 2010 at 11:25 am
4evaRaider Says:
January 4th, 2010 at 11:21 am
There is all the hope in the world for DHB….
As we can see the kid is a very hard worker.He will need to.But there is no reason he cant be a great WR like Barnwell or almost a Branch,imo
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Hayward Bey can’t freaking catch…
even the touchdown he caught was a surprise to him…
’cause the ball went through his hands… bounced off his chest… and then he trapped it…
i’ll bet it scared the schit out of him!!!
January 4th, 2010 at 11:25 am
Bo, McFadden is the least of our problems. Add a coaching staff that has a clue and a decent o-line and McFadden, as well as Bush, will be productive.
For now, don’t worry…McFadden will prove you wrong soon enough…
January 4th, 2010 at 11:26 am
I strongly agree with this post:
http://justblogbaby.com/2010/01/04/memo-to-al-davis-fire-tom-cable-lose-raider-nation/
January 4th, 2010 at 11:27 am
there is only one hope for Jacarcass…
the pressure of family and long-time friends…
hopefully that is what is happening…
hopefully it is not the opposite…
you know: c’mon jam, you got paid… time to RETIRE!!!
January 4th, 2010 at 11:28 am
ummm. mike mitchell was a bad pick? i dont think so. dude had a pretty good rookie year. maybe not worthy of a 2nd rounder, but what do these experts like kiper know anyway? remember when they drafted asomugha everyone on that espn panel said ” what are the raiders doing” i had this guy as a 3rd round pick. kiper said he had mitchell rated as his 40th best safety. name 5 safeties that had a better year than mm. dude hardly played the 1st 6-8 games. i dunno, just dont think he is that bad of a player. certainly better than eugene. remember mm stood up brandon jacobs at goal line vs giants. u think mitchell would’ve pimp slapped the way hiram was?
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January 4th, 2010 at 11:30 am
Chris,
I don’t mind Fassel but everytime I think about Fassel begging for the job last year, I can’t help but picture Rodney Harrison begging Al for a contract and Al telling him no.
January 4th, 2010 at 11:30 am
out of dhb’s 9 receptions, i think he bobbled at least 4 of them b4 catching them.
January 4th, 2010 at 11:31 am
5 rookie safeties i mean
January 4th, 2010 at 11:32 am
Cable sealed his fate as Raiders HC when he punched Davis-lacky Randy Hanson and then ESPN reported a story of his alleged history of violence towards women …
Hanson is back working at Raider HQ. what does that tell you?
National Organization for Women (NOW) wanted Cable suspended.
January 4th, 2010 at 11:32 am
Source: Staff to meet with Davis next
By Adam Schefter
ESPN
The members of the Oakland Raiders coaching staff are safe, for now.
The staff, including head coach Tom Cable, is expected to meet with team owner Al Davis next Monday, at which time its fate is likely to be learned, a league source told ESPN.
The embattled Cable has faced assault allegations from an ex-wife and ex-girlfriend, and he also faced allegations of assault for the altercation between Cable and assistant coach Randy Hanson during a coaches meeting that Hanson said left him with a broken jaw.
The Raiders finished 5-11 this season, closing the season with back-to-back losses.
Adam Schefter is an ESPN NFL Insider.
Booooooooooo….FIRE HIM TODAY!!!!!!!
January 4th, 2010 at 11:34 am
I dont think Mitchell is a bad player, but could have drafted a need (OT, LB) in round 2, instead of a safety to be a backup
January 4th, 2010 at 11:34 am
Davis: Fire Tom Cable, Lose Raider Nation
04 Jan Memo to Al Davis: Fire Tom Cable, Lose Raider Nation
Posted by: Chris Shellcroft
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does anybody know this Shellcroft guy???
he seems to think he speaks for everyone…
he does not speak for me…
January 4th, 2010 at 11:34 am
To answer your questions, Eugene was in because Michael Huff had to go over to the Nickel/Dime packages as an extra CB and so Eugene replaced Huff at safety when he did that because we’re so short on CBs (kinda funny to say that, but it’s true). So when C.J wasn’t playing this causes a problem.
January 4th, 2010 at 11:35 am
Adam Schefter is a CLOWN paid to be a CLOWN
January 4th, 2010 at 11:36 am
# AlDavis Stopwatch Says:
January 4th, 2010 at 11:30 am
Chris,
I don’t mind Fassel but everytime I think about Fassel begging for the job last year, I can’t help but picture Rodney Harrison begging Al for a contract and Al telling him no.
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and it would’ve been smart to sign harrison
January 4th, 2010 at 11:37 am
el tato going into the draft last season safety was indeed a necessity. we had no idea what branch would do. huff was not playing as expected and well hiram eugene, that speaks for itself. s was a need. and if huff comes back which i think they will at least use the transition tag on him, we’re good at S for the 1st time in years
January 4th, 2010 at 11:37 am
Huff has been injured the last 4 games this season with an stinger, thats why Eugene had to play more time than expected.
Also, Huff was the nickel CB yesterday because CJ missed the game, so Eugene was in for him at FS.
January 4th, 2010 at 11:37 am
Dakota,
That just ruined my day. We gotta wait a whole week?
January 4th, 2010 at 11:38 am
Florida Pete Says:
January 4th, 2010 at 11:34 am
Davis: Fire Tom Cable, Lose Raider Nation
04 Jan Memo to Al Davis: Fire Tom Cable, Lose Raider Nation
Posted by: Chris Shellcroft
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does anybody know this Shellcroft guy???
he seems to think he speaks for everyone…
he does not speak for me…
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Well, I guess he seems to think the Raider Nation will stick through another joke of a season headed up by a guy that isn’t qualified to be a head coach of a division 1 college football program, let alone an NFL franchise.
I say go for another coach…you can’t possibly do worse than Cable unless you hire Art Shell a third time Al?!?!?!?!
January 4th, 2010 at 11:39 am
we’ve had some horrible safeties recently. dorsett, debbie gibson, stu scweigert rashad baker. none of these guys were able to catch on with another team for an entire season.
January 4th, 2010 at 11:41 am
“It’s very important to have that consistency,” Asomugha said. “Any business or company that is continually changing the boss or CEO, they have a tough time with whatever it is they’re doing. We started to get a rhythm, and we started to understand what we were doing. I would definitely try to get Cable back, just because that gives us some consistency.”
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The one thing no one can argue regarding Cable is his consistency. 5-11, 5-11, and 11-34 at Idaho.
If he comes back next year, lets just wait for the schedule to come out and try to figure out which 5 games we will win next year.
January 4th, 2010 at 11:41 am
el tato going into the draft last season safety was indeed a necessity. we had no idea what branch would do. huff was not playing as expected and well hiram eugene, that speaks for itself. s was a need. and if huff comes back which i think they will at least use the transition tag on him, we’re good at S for the 1st time in years
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I know, but instead of cut Gibril Wilson, keep Wison and draft OL. I you cut Wison (average player, but there are worse safeties starting in the NFL), you create a need at safety instead of trying to fill another needs, so keep Wilson, draft OL instead of cut Wison and draft safety. Just my opinion.
But you are righ, Branch was unknown and coming of IR and Huff was average at best last year.
January 4th, 2010 at 11:42 am
I don’t think Cable did a spectacular job at HC but I think there is some justification for keeping him on board.
1.) provides stability. With a new HC it usually intails a hire of new coaches, development of different schemes and so forth. I feel a complete overhaul is not what is needed for the Raiders. With a average or above average QB our fortune will change from a below average to to an average team.The Raiders first must be competitive before they think of winning Superbowls.
2.)He is a motivator. I did not see the Raiders quit.That is a great sign for even this last game. The Raiders showed some fight. also he knows who will fight for him at who will not.
3.)He is improving as a overall HC. He has not reached his learning ceiling yet. I like to give a coach a full 2 years to see what they are made of.He has made some questionable decisions, but he will learn from his mistakes and adapt if needed.
These are some reasons for keeping Cable unless there is a proven HC that wants to be here.
January 4th, 2010 at 11:43 am
Safety play was a real bright spot this season. The Mike Huff I saw make plays all over the field at Texas finally showed up. Branch showed real promise and made a ton of tackles. Mitchell brings a fearlessness and aggressive style of play. Eugene did make an incredible INT vs. the Steelers in the end zone, not a bad option as your 4th safety.
Beat the hell out of our safety play for a long, long time.
January 4th, 2010 at 11:44 am
I would keep Cable, I dont want to start all over again.
He has been the coach for a year, he should know what this teams needs right now, what to draft and sign in the offseason.
January 4th, 2010 at 11:46 am
Chris, Im with you, Eugene is the 4th safety on this team and I dont think he is that bad for that role. He usually is not a bad tackler either (and yes, I see what McGahee did to him)
January 4th, 2010 at 11:49 am
You guys also have to agree we got to the quarterback more consistenly this year too. But we need a Nose Tackle.
January 4th, 2010 at 11:50 am
El Tato Says:
January 4th, 2010 at 11:44 am
I would keep Cable, I dont want to start all over again.
He has been the coach for a year, he should know what this teams needs right now, what to draft and sign in the offseason.
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Sure, keep Cable…as long as he is stripped of his play calling duties, all power he has over who we sign and all power he has over who gets to play on Sundays.
He can stay and call timeouts on Sundays.
January 4th, 2010 at 11:52 am
You guys also have to agree we got to the quarterback more consistenly this year too. But we need a Nose Tackle.
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That because we rushed the LB and DB, instead of a 4 DL man rush like other years.
I saw Morrison, Howard, Scott, Mitchell, Branch, Huff, Asomugha and Routt rush the passer yesterday.
January 4th, 2010 at 11:53 am
Sure, keep Cable…as long as he is stripped of his play calling duties, all power he has over who we sign and all power he has over who gets to play on Sundays.
He can stay and call timeouts on Sundays.
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So, who will have the power to decide who we sign, Al Davis?
January 4th, 2010 at 11:53 am
u guys are right eugene not a bad option as 4th safety. problem is he was probably on the field more than huff and mm. making him our 2nd safety. even when huff had his 3 picks within the 1st 2 games, eugene was still starting. even up until week 12 at the start of the games when the line ups were given, eugene was listed as our starting FS.
January 4th, 2010 at 11:54 am
I would like to have an OC, instead of Cable, I m with you in that one
January 4th, 2010 at 11:56 am
Oakglen & Priesttj are at Alameda as we speak cleaning the overhead projector and shining AL’s shoes.
Oakglen is still convinced JaMeatloaf is a “bonafide NFL Qb” and likes the “trajectory” of Cables coaching record.
Priesttj once thought Cable was the next Madden has once again realized he doesnt really know football but is one helluva cheerleader for the Silver & Black.
Stay tuned..
January 4th, 2010 at 11:56 am
im telling you that blitz where huff and mitchell came from each side and meet at the qb was a thing of beauty. i really think mitchell is gonna be one helluva player. likwe i said b4, we good some really good young talent with murphy shilens shaunny huff branch mitchell scott. bryant will be better at dt with a little more beef. we need lots of oline help
January 4th, 2010 at 11:57 am
u guys are right eugene not a bad option as 4th safety. problem is he was probably on the field more than huff and mm. making him our 2nd safety. even when huff had his 3 picks within the 1st 2 games, eugene was still starting. even up until week 12 at the start of the games when the line ups were given, eugene was listed as our starting FS.
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That because he was considered a better tackler than Huff, so he was on the field on clearly running plays earlier on the year. The last 4 games Huff played through injury, so Eugene was in extra time.
January 4th, 2010 at 11:58 am
yeah, focus on OL
January 4th, 2010 at 11:59 am
Cut JaMarshmallow regardless if Cable stays. Let Bruce & Frye battle for #1 and draft a Qb in the 2nd or 3rd round.
Kirk Morrison it was nice knowing you! Hiram Eugene, hit the fuggin bricks!
Fargas kick rocks buddy!
Javon Walker, receive your get out of jail card ASAP!
Nick Miller what were you doing here?
Can we get a FULLBACK? thanks in advance
January 4th, 2010 at 12:00 pm
and if dmac and heywary-bey improve, with a little oline help, we will have a damn good offense. even with avg qb play. i think grads and jruss compete for the job. like to see grads with a good healthy oline, and a healthy chaz. he and murphy be great. imagine if we had decent oline play, we could go with some 4 wr packages. let dhb run deep as a decoy, and it will open up the field for miller, chaz, murph and jlh
January 4th, 2010 at 12:01 pm
Hiram Dorsett Schweigert Pope Gibson Eugene.
Kudos to him for making that one highlight reel interception in the end zone. Elsewise…
January 4th, 2010 at 12:02 pm
what about jack del rio??????????????? rumor has it he will be fired asap
January 4th, 2010 at 12:02 pm
oh yeah. lmfaoooo marquez pope
January 4th, 2010 at 12:02 pm
new englandraider Says:
January 4th, 2010 at 9:18 am
as long as the patriots lose, thats like winning the super bowl 4 me
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let’s not forget the chargers !! I live in the san diego area and that is always good ammo against their fans that they have NO superbowls.
January 4th, 2010 at 12:03 pm
Keep Cable Fu.ck all the doubters, all the losses might have affected most of you, but dont blame Russell’s inability to make plays to Cable’s playcalling, Put Grads in there since the beginning and we are 8-8 with room for improvement of the O-line.
January 4th, 2010 at 12:04 pm
el tato, ur right huff strugled as a tackler as well. he has made strides in every possible area. tackling covering and his “help” responsibilties were a lot better than last year. has he turned the corner? or was it a contract year type thing?
January 4th, 2010 at 12:06 pm
Jack Del Rio is a Raider fan with a good track record for HC in the NFL
I’d take him over Cable any day
January 4th, 2010 at 12:07 pm
Al Davis would break Del Rio’s spirit in 3 days.
Next..
January 4th, 2010 at 12:07 pm
And lets not forget stonehands DHB cmon its the supposed playmakers not making plays making the playcaller look bad.
January 4th, 2010 at 12:08 pm
has he turned the corner? or was it a contract year type thing?
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Huff is under contract next year.
it will be his final year of the contract and he’s scheduled to make over $5 million though
hard to imagine Mitchell being a 2nd year 2nd rounder only being used as ST gunner …
January 4th, 2010 at 12:09 pm
Hire Jim Harbaugh
January 4th, 2010 at 12:09 pm
Huff said he watched every tackle made by Polamalu, Ed Reed, Dawkins and Bod Sanders in the 2008 season in order to improve his tackling.
January 4th, 2010 at 12:10 pm
in ‘07 there appeard need of a franchise QB so I did not mind the selection of JRuss.
in ‘08 it was obviously O-line all the way. Welcome Kijana McFadden.
in ‘09 it was obviously O-line all the way. Welcome Dr Strangeglove-Bey.
in ‘10 it is obviously O-line all the way. Welcome…?
O-linemen and Linebackers. The team can be good if these areas are addressed with primacy.
January 4th, 2010 at 12:10 pm
Did we hire a GM yet?
If Cable gets fired in a metting with Al, maybe he’ll snap and give Al a few shots to the head leaving him incapable of running the team.
January 4th, 2010 at 12:10 pm
loco, it get really quiet around here when the patsies lose. i love it. 8 yrs ago massachusetts was full of cowboys, 49ers, and raiders fans. now all the patsies fans have crawled out from under their wet rocks. same goes for the celtics. bunch of fair weather fans over here. what ever happened to all the chicago bulls fans. man everybody was a bulls fan in the 90’s
January 4th, 2010 at 12:12 pm
hard to imagine Mitchell being a 2nd year 2nd rounder only being used as ST gunner …
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But Mitchell is a SS, he needs to beat Tyvon to start.
Maybe he can use another year on the bench or as an hybrid safety-linebacker like this year and move to SS in 2011 with Tyvon as the FS and Huff leaving via FA.
January 4th, 2010 at 12:12 pm
kijana mcfadden. lol. darren salaam. just heard on khtk that cable is a facility decked out in his raiders gear
January 4th, 2010 at 12:12 pm
At the presser next monday….
Al will say he understands the 5-11 record because blah bla blah….
Al will say everybody neeeeds 2 blah blah blah
Al will say we are young but blah blah blah
And with 1 more year blah blah blah
imo
January 4th, 2010 at 12:13 pm
Hire Cable although Jim Harbaugh does look like a Good coach ill only accept him as a replacement, nobody else. no fassel or del rio or gilbride they suck.
January 4th, 2010 at 12:13 pm
The past 7 years have already proven Old Man Al is incapable! Dirt nap for Al!
January 4th, 2010 at 12:15 pm
It is hard enough for any 80 year old to accept their obsolescence, but trebly hard for those who have always been contollers.
AD should take a cue from his birthday buddy Steinbrenner and chill out somewhere.
If Tom Cable is the answer then I am not seeing the question correctly.
January 4th, 2010 at 12:16 pm
Mitchell is a SS, he needs to beat Tyvon to start.
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Branch can play FS, SS and even CB.
M & M can play both safety positions.
they are both interchangable.
at one time Al thought Huff & Eugene were too …
January 4th, 2010 at 12:17 pm
“Beat writer Vito Stellino expects the Jags to part ways with FS Reggie Nelson this offseason. Nelson has regressed terribly the past two seasons, turning into one of the worst tacklers in the league.”
Wow, he did look pretty good his rookie season
January 4th, 2010 at 12:17 pm
4eva….so….what 2 do then???
January 4th, 2010 at 12:18 pm
Both Branch(FS) and Mitchell(SS) need to start.
January 4th, 2010 at 12:18 pm
i actually think our defense was pretty good with the 3 S LOOKS. notice we didnt have a lb covering other teams best wr in the last 6-8 weeks
January 4th, 2010 at 12:18 pm
Bring on Brian Billick….
January 4th, 2010 at 12:18 pm
Mitchell is a down-hill player and actually pretty good at. Looks good on ST, he might be our best blitzer and is good in run support.
However, he is downright awful in space and playing laterally. Anyone else that effort on the Derrick Mason reception yesterday?
Mason went into Mitchell’s zone and caught a pass. No big deal there, until Mason made one little move and Mitchell was juked so badly he didn’t even touch him. It looked like a lost HS kid out there.
Maybe a hybrid S/LB, ST guy, and nickle blitzer.
January 4th, 2010 at 12:19 pm
Here’s why I think maybe keep Cable. Since he’s been allowed to play another QB except for Russell…which coach in the last 7 years had the team looking better?
What other option would you choose?
January 4th, 2010 at 12:19 pm
If Big Al continues running the show — close to a certainty — there is point in replacing Cable.
No serious coach is going to take the job. And Cable appears to be a decent guy (assuming, for a moment, that he doesn’t actually hit women). He at least cares.
Get a new right tackle, someone to push Mario at left tackle, a couple of new defensive linemen and hope that Gradkowski can stay healthy — and we can probably go 8-8 or 9-7 for a year or two.
Before Big Al fires Cable and starts all over.
What more can we hope for, realistically?
January 4th, 2010 at 12:19 pm
well fellas got to head out. nice chatting with you all. look 4ward to reading your posts in the coming days. MAKE THE WORLD A BETTER PLACE PUNCH A PATSIES FAN IN THE FACE
January 4th, 2010 at 12:20 pm
He was also beat severly by a TE in the Redskins game for a TD.
Mitchell and Derrick Gibson seem to be peas in pod when it comes to pass-coverage. Not good at it.
January 4th, 2010 at 12:21 pm
I love the way people just assume that a different qb from the beginning of the season would have earned more wins. One of the reasons we couldnt keep the back ups healthy was the poor o-line play. Not only did they struggle in pass protection but the run blocking wasnt any better. This just means that if grads or fry had started the season the fragile twosome, would have been out of action alot sooner. No qb can succeed behind such lousy o-line play, lack of running came and horribly unimaginative, nonsensical play calling. This is one of the main reasons cable is gone. Also all of the best qb’s have a relationship with the play caller. Manning and moore/ breez and payton/ rivers and turner/ macnabb and reid. The next coach should be an offense guy that really tries to form a bond with no.2.
January 4th, 2010 at 12:21 pm
On a good note, Mario played like crap the last few weeks, so if we want to re-sign him he should be a lot cheaper than we thought he would.
January 4th, 2010 at 12:21 pm
fu.ck Brian Billick well regress with that guy.
January 4th, 2010 at 12:23 pm
Should Routt be signed at seasons end?
Played horrible in nickel position, but was farely effective as a starting CB. (IMO)
January 4th, 2010 at 12:23 pm
Raider91 Says:
January 4th, 2010 at 12:21 pm
fu.ck Brian Billick well regress with that guy.
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Really? explain.
He is one of the only other top tier coaches that would consider the job along with Fassel. You have to consider your options.
January 4th, 2010 at 12:23 pm
4eva, if DHB turns out to be another Malcolm Barnwell,he will most certainly be a bust!
January 4th, 2010 at 12:24 pm
I think Mitchell is a SS, not sure about FS. He was beaten for a TD the only time I saw him deep (Redskins game I think)
Branch probably can do both, even a bit of CB.
But I dont think Mitchell can beat Huff right now at FS, Huff did good this season.
January 4th, 2010 at 12:24 pm
Mistic1 all your posts lose all credibility of your opinion since you are an Al Davis Homer u see no logic in what is best for the team and think Al makes better decisions than the average joe.
January 4th, 2010 at 12:24 pm
No way you compare MM w/ Gibson!!!!
January 4th, 2010 at 12:24 pm
I said “consider” too much.
January 4th, 2010 at 12:25 pm
Let’s start a campaign!
The Jack Del Rio “2010″ Campaign!!
January 4th, 2010 at 12:25 pm
Small crowd: An announced crowd of 38,400 – many who never seemed to find their seats – witnessed the seventh non-sellout of the 2009 season.
The Raiders’ season average of 44,285, last in the league, is the franchise’s lowest since 1967.
Read more: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2010/01/04/SPSS1BD19U.DTL#ixzz0bg3M3aKP
January 4th, 2010 at 12:25 pm
On a good note, Mario played like crap the last few weeks, so if we want to re-sign him he should be a lot cheaper than we thought he would.
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Mario Henderson? He is not a FA
January 4th, 2010 at 12:26 pm
comment #1
Mitchell is a down-hill player and actually pretty good at. Looks good on ST, he might be our best blitzer and is good in run support.
However, he is downright awful in space and playing laterally.
comment #2
Mitchell and Derrick Gibson seem to be peas in pod when it comes to pass-coverage. Not good at it.
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exactly Vegas. I called him Gibson #36 when we first drafted him. nice connection there
January 4th, 2010 at 12:27 pm
Maverick….I dunno,I will be tuning in too.But I am on record 4 retaining Dakotas best friend Tom Cable!!!!
January 4th, 2010 at 12:28 pm
Mistic1,
We can’t say we would have won this many games or not with another QB.
What we do know is that Charlie Frye and Bruce Gradkowski are better QB’s than Russell. Certainly in 2009 and probably after that as well.
Given our best QB had played all year, we would have been BETTER. How much better, who knows, but definately better.
January 4th, 2010 at 12:28 pm
Mario Henderson? He is not a FA
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Mario Henderson hired Drew Rosenhaus as his new agent to lobby for a new deal paying him “starter money”
but no, it’s not a contract year for him
January 4th, 2010 at 12:28 pm
Bill Romanowski for HC.
January 4th, 2010 at 12:29 pm
Barnwell did everything in the system that was asked of him.If you or anyone thinks Barnwell was a bust….you are sadly mistaken or ignorant,imo
January 4th, 2010 at 12:29 pm
Basically I never heard of Brian Billick thats why I assumed he sucks. You probably think he is Bill Belichick… JK just never heard of him. I see that he won 1 SB though through Wiki, thats about it… fluke?
January 4th, 2010 at 12:30 pm
Bill Romanowski for HC.
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LOL!
Romo is an actor/raider reporter.
plus he’ll make sure there isn’t another TE like Marcus Williams on the team …
January 4th, 2010 at 12:30 pm
Just start watching Football yesterday ?
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raider91 Says:
January 4th, 2010 at 12:29 pm
Basically I never heard of Brian Billick thats why I assumed he sucks
January 4th, 2010 at 12:31 pm
SS # 36 Derrick Gibson was out of the league at 27.
January 4th, 2010 at 12:32 pm
Basically I never heard of Brian Billick
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how about Mike Ditka?
“first to say cowboy gets an ice cold coors light”
lol
January 4th, 2010 at 12:32 pm
Rockstar,
I like Mitchell a lot, his attitude, his physicalness and such.
Like I said, he might be our best blitzer, and certainly our 2nd most physical DB behind Branch.
But the dude can’t cover and doesn’t move around well in space and laterally. He is a downhill guy and if we play him to his strengths he can very very useful out there.
I think Carnell Lake had like 10 sacks one year as a blitzing DB in nickle situations. I think Mitchell can have an impact along those lines.
January 4th, 2010 at 12:32 pm
4eva, so DHB will have to be told where to run his routes in the huddle.
January 4th, 2010 at 12:34 pm
But Mitchell is not a FS and if he is starting back there we are in a world of shyt when it comes to coverage.
January 4th, 2010 at 12:34 pm
Billick won the Super Bowl in 2000
January 4th, 2010 at 12:35 pm
SS # 36 Derrick Gibson was out of the league at 27.
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so Mitchell still has another 5 years in the league?
January 4th, 2010 at 12:35 pm
Basically I just started watchin football about a month ago. lmao
January 4th, 2010 at 12:35 pm
I dont want to see Mitchell at FS
January 4th, 2010 at 12:35 pm
Barnwell caught 115 passes and 4 TD in a four year career. Great player, 4eva.
January 4th, 2010 at 12:35 pm
Billick would be good, probably great, but everytime I think of him I think of his love-affair with Elvis Grbac.
That was a collosal disaster, and if he would have just left Dilfer back there they would have won more than one SB, IMO.
January 4th, 2010 at 12:36 pm
Raider91 was obviously born in ‘91…
I can’t see Billick working under Davis. But would welcome him if he was hired!
January 4th, 2010 at 12:36 pm
What makes Al Davis such a scumbag is that he runs everything, and blames everybody else.
January 4th, 2010 at 12:36 pm
Mitchell missed training cam, OTAs and preseason, thats huge for a rookie
January 4th, 2010 at 12:36 pm
i think the phrase we are looking for is:
no coach with any self-respect would come here to coach is he has any… and i do mean ANY… other option…
January 4th, 2010 at 12:36 pm
El Tato I know that much he did win 1 SB.
January 4th, 2010 at 12:36 pm
Well have you heard of John Madden, Bill Walsh, Don Shula, Tom Landry, Bill Cower, Bill Belichick, Joe Bugel?
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raider91 Says:
January 4th, 2010 at 12:29 pm
Basically I never heard of Brian Billick thats why I assumed he sucks
January 4th, 2010 at 12:37 pm
Corrrection:
Basically Raider91 was obvioulsy born in’91
January 4th, 2010 at 12:37 pm
Dilfer was nothing special either, defense won SB
January 4th, 2010 at 12:37 pm
I think Carnell Lake had like 10 sacks one year as a blitzing DB in nickle situations. I think Mitchell can have an impact along those lines.
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so the remedy is trade him to Philly, Pittsburgh or Baltimore? that way he’ll be on an attacking defense!
haha. it’s hard to strike fear into an offense when they can simply hand the ball off to anybody for 5+ yards
January 4th, 2010 at 12:38 pm
4eva, so DHB is a 30 million dollar decoy?
January 4th, 2010 at 12:38 pm
Kinda like our Pres.
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# KoolKell Says:
January 4th, 2010 at 12:36 pm
What makes Al Davis such a scumbag is that he runs everything, and blames everybody else.
January 4th, 2010 at 12:38 pm
Well, Billick is a decent coach. He did goods things at Baltimore. He is also good freinds with Al and had a sit down with him last year. I heard an interview with him and they asked him if he was offered the position. He was pretty dodgy and didn’t really answer the question. BUt he just kept on gushing about Al and what he has done for football. So who knows…
January 4th, 2010 at 12:39 pm
Man I really like TCU tonight but that -7.5 really scares me.
Boise State played 3 bowl teams this year. Those teams are 0-3.
TCU played 6 bowl teams. Those teams are 6-0.
No brainer right? I’m still scared to pull the trigger.
January 4th, 2010 at 12:39 pm
# KoolKell Says:
January 4th, 2010 at 12:25 pm
Small crowd: An announced crowd of 38,400 – many who never seemed to find their seats – witnessed the seventh non-sellout of the 2009 season.
The Raiders’ season average of 44,285, last in the league, is the franchise’s lowest since 1967.
Read more: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2010/01/04/SPSS1BD19U.DTL#ixzz0bg3M3aKP
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Can you just die already old man
You bring nada to the table
January 4th, 2010 at 12:40 pm
Yes ive heard of Madden, Flores, Cowher seen him hating the raiders on Fox, steeler maggot.
January 4th, 2010 at 12:40 pm
LOL….Sad but true Rockstar
January 4th, 2010 at 12:41 pm
Carl Weathers Says:
January 4th, 2010 at 12:10 pm
Did we hire a GM yet?
If Cable gets fired in a metting with Al, maybe he’ll snap and give Al a few shots to the head leaving him incapable of running the team
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As stupid as it sounds, it very well might be a solution. LOL
January 4th, 2010 at 12:42 pm
I am an Al Davis homer??!!?! In what way? I love the silver and black, and I understand what it means to have Davis run the show. I agree Davis makes mistakes, and miscalculations, you win some and you lose some. I am also aware that his methods, however clandestine, or draconian produces dramatic results. Our history over 50 years with Davis leaves no middle ground, we are either really good or really bad, we are rarely middle of the pack. I dont mind Davis’s go for the gusto all or nothing philosophy. At least the guy that owns my team is a football guy, that wants to win more than anything else. Davis has a clear philosophy and its up to the coach to execute this concept. That is a basic model in any business. The owner has a plan and brings in managers to execute the plan. When the business is not doing well the owner doesnt fire himself, he brings in different managers to get the job done. Do I wish Davis would do things differently at times.. yes, do I agree with every move he makes of course not. Davis is not bullet proof, and he deserves the heat when his plan fails. However the fact that there is no mystery about who is in charge, or who runs the show is something I respect. Triumph or failure we know where the buck stops. This is a much more of honest and up front approach than we see in most professional sports today.
January 4th, 2010 at 12:43 pm
Last one than I got to go back to work….
I had a talk with a buddy and he compared Russell to JJ Reddick. Reddick has the most beautiful shot you ever saw, Russell throws the most impressive spiral at times and has the strongest arm.
If you leave Reddick open he will make it. If you give Russell plenty of time and a huge pocket he can throw lasers.
But guess what, in the NBA you aren’t going to be wide-open often, and in today’s NFL, you rarely get plenty of time and a huge pocket. Reddick never adapted and I doubt Russell will either.
January 4th, 2010 at 12:43 pm
wow comparing mitchell to gibson. you just gave 2 examples of mm giving up a reception. 2 in 16 games. name more. and yes he was out of postion twice yesterday. the td against wash, nnamdi was lined up behin mm in a zone. nnamdi took off towards middle of field and left mm alone. did he not?
January 4th, 2010 at 12:45 pm
Maybe the real test on whether JaBustus is the worst QB prospect ever is your answer to the following question:
If your team was in the key game of the year, which QB would you hope was playing for the other team. If you picked JaBustus like I did, it should be clear that this person shouldn’t even be in the NFL. Yes, he can throw a laser type pass and every now & then it may go where it was intended but, is he bright enough & dedicated enough to lead & manage the team throughout the entire game? I think not. In my view, Jabustus is just a freak of nature who happened to be just what AD was looking for – the reincarnation of Jeff George. It is my prediction that JaBustus has no more than 1 year left in this league before finally realizes that he really is as bad as he looks. Many have made excuses for him but that approach is wearing thin on the few supporters that are left. JuBustus just needs recognized for what he is, the absolute WORST BUST EVER and then we can all move on. You may not agree with me on this issue but in the words of the infamous AD, GET OVER IT. Jabustus’s 15 minutes of fame and wealth are long over and past due. Let’s just all get along, kicking his ass to the curb and moving on.
Draft OL, MLB, DL and pickup Troy Smith, QB in FA. Name a new HC and hope remains eternal.
January 4th, 2010 at 12:45 pm
Morilla, I see now Billick For GM… or coach? obviously I want Cable to stay since the players want it like Namdi we need some continuity.
January 4th, 2010 at 12:45 pm
gibson on the other hand would bite on every pump fake, double move or play action. mm’s rookie season was better than any season debbie gibson played
January 4th, 2010 at 12:46 pm
Hola Nation! Vegas I feel you on the TCU pick tonight. I think we both have to remember that defense wins Championships. Idaho did win there bowl. And Boise did beat them. I was fortunate enough to talk with Jim Harbough. He says he has a good relationship with Al. And I think he loved the atmosphere of the pro game. I think when you look at the NFL. It’s head and shoulders over coaching in the PAC 10. I told Jim that the blog had him as our next head coach. He acted suprised but, he didn’t act disintereted at all. I would say he would be receptive. His brother is coaching in the Big Leagues and I think that has appeal to him.
January 4th, 2010 at 12:47 pm
What professional sports owner fires himself? Coaches come and go. They stay when they win and when they lose they are out. Bidwell, ford, glazer, adams, craft, york, mara, johnson, brown. These are just a few examples of owners that have had their far share of struggles, with winning and picking coaches or players. These guys dont fire themselves, they clean house and start again.
January 4th, 2010 at 12:49 pm
disinterested
January 4th, 2010 at 12:51 pm
Players want cable to stay because they do not fear or respect him. Players know they can get away with murder and will not be disciplined. the melt down in cleveland with team captains acting like idiots on the field and cable pretended not to see it. No 21 is a great player but he is not a leader. The defense does not rally around him, I dont think he knows whats best for this team. Players play, lets leave selecting coaches to the front office, thats the way it typically works in this league.
January 4th, 2010 at 12:58 pm
Only problem Mistic, Al has let the players select the HC. The Raiders have not played disciplined football since John Madden was HC.
January 4th, 2010 at 1:04 pm
4eva, still want to discuss Barnwell?
January 4th, 2010 at 1:08 pm
NEW POST!
January 4th, 2010 at 1:37 pm
Even though Cable is no the most talented coach, he has been able to make some apparent progress with the team. With that as well as the need to maintain a consistent system, firing Cable would not be a good idea. If anything, Cable appears to have acknowledged the need for growth and adjustments and that can come over time. But to change the entire coaching staff, again, is just setting up the Raiders for more years of losing seasons.
January 4th, 2010 at 1:42 pm
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January 4th, 2010 at 1:46 pm
Cable will be going no place and will, as should be the Raiders coach next year. First time in many years that I will be looking forward to the off season and the new year to start.
My guess is there will be a structure change with regards to play calling. They will add and tweak some things and move forward.
As for the Fans and making them happy, it will not happen until the wins are there. The base of Raider Fans has fallen as low as the country has over the years. Raider Nation looks to have become a Nation of PUNKS, so sad.