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Don’t expect axe to fall on Cable today

History suggests if Al Davis is to fire coach Tom Cable, it won’t happen today.

The Washington Redskins have already fired Jim Zorn, and the Buffalo Bills have dumped their entire coaching staff. The Raiders, however, have been inclined in past years to allow even the lamest of ducks to quack one last time for the assembled media before breaking out the chopping block.

Some examples:

Mike White_Last game of the season was a 28-21 loss to the Seattle Seahawks on Dec. 22 to finish 7-9 (he’d be coach of the year material for that now). Infamously told of his firing on Christmas Eve by Bruce Allen.

Joe Bugel_Last game of the season was a 20-9 loss to Jacksonville on Dec. 21 but wasn’t fired for 16 days, getting the word on Jan. 6. He even showed up and kept a speaking engagement at a local school, telling kids he’d been fired. The Raiders were 4-12 and lost their last five games and eight of the last nine.

Bill Callahan_Last game of the season was Dec. 28, a 21-14 loss to the San Diego Chargers, a game in which starters Charlie Garner and Charles Woodson were benched for missing an evening snack session on the eve of the game. He was fired three days later, a day after Rich Gannon met with the media and said there were serious issues with discipline on a team the coach had called “the dumbest team in America,” following up a conference championship with a 4-12 season.

Norv Turner__Last game of the season was Dec. 31, a 30-21 loss to the New York Giants. Turner got word four days later. Turner was misty-eyed as he got the game ball on Nov. 20 when the Raiders beat the Redskins 16-13 to improve to 4-6. Then they dropped their last six.

Art Shell_ Last game of the season was Dec. 31, a 23-3 loss to the New York Jets to complete a 2-14 season, including the last nine in succession. He was fired six days later, validating a late-season report by the NFL Network’s Adam Schefter that Shell would be fired at the end of the season. The Raiders responded to that report with a denial and saying Schefter was a “false rumor mongerer.”

Lane Kiffin was an in-season firing, four games into the 2008 season after the Raiders had carefully built a case “for cause.”

Jon Gruden was traded to the Tampa Bay Buccaneeers for $8 million in cash, two first-round draft picks and two second-round draft picks on Feb. 19, 2002, a month after the 13-10 loss in New England in the “Tuck Rule” game. Talks at a contract extension had fallen apart when Gruden believed the Raiders had reneged at an offer which would give him control of the coaching staff and final say over the make up of the 53-man roster.

So chances are good Cable will be at the podium much as his predecessors have been to wrap up the season. Most talked of high hopes for the following season, either in denial or unaware a pink slip was coming.

The only aberrations were Callahan, who read a terse statement regarding the suspensions of Woodson and Garner and exited the building without taking questions, and Turner, who understood what was coming and thanked all the reporters present for being fair.

The strangest firing of all pre-dated the Raiders return to Oakland. In 1994, the Los Angeles Raiders finished 9-7 following a 19-9 loss to the Kansas City Chiefs. Days later, rumors swirled that Shell would be fired and White promoted to head coach. It wasn’t confirmed by the Raiders for 27 days, and no one is sure when the transition took place.

An open locker room session with players who haven’t already vacated the building is scheduled for 11:15 a.m. (PST), with Cable’s press conference following at noon.

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  • RaiderRockstar

    Mario Henderson? He is not a FA

    ***

    Mario Henderson hired Drew Rosenhaus as his new agent to lobby for a new deal paying him “starter money”

    but no, it’s not a contract year for him

  • Mistabrown

    Bill Romanowski for HC.

  • 4evaRaider

    Barnwell did everything in the system that was asked of him.If you or anyone thinks Barnwell was a bust….you are sadly mistaken or ignorant,imo

  • raider91

    Basically I never heard of Brian Billick thats why I assumed he sucks. You probably think he is Bill Belichick… JK just never heard of him. I see that he won 1 SB though through Wiki, thats about it… fluke?

  • RaiderRockstar

    Bill Romanowski for HC.

    ***

    LOL!

    Romo is an actor/raider reporter.

    plus he’ll make sure there isn’t another TE like Marcus Williams on the team …

  • Mistabrown

    Just start watching Football yesterday ?

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    raider91 Says:
    January 4th, 2010 at 12:29 pm

    Basically I never heard of Brian Billick thats why I assumed he sucks

  • El Tato

    SS # 36 Derrick Gibson was out of the league at 27.

  • RaiderRockstar

    Basically I never heard of Brian Billick

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    how about Mike Ditka?

    “first to say cowboy gets an ice cold coors light”

    lol

  • http://blstb.msn.com/i/55/90A2853B6CFBCC2AFC987BB18B832.jpg vegas raider

    Rockstar,

    I like Mitchell a lot, his attitude, his physicalness and such.

    Like I said, he might be our best blitzer, and certainly our 2nd most physical DB behind Branch.

    But the dude can’t cover and doesn’t move around well in space and laterally. He is a downhill guy and if we play him to his strengths he can very very useful out there.

    I think Carnell Lake had like 10 sacks one year as a blitzing DB in nickle situations. I think Mitchell can have an impact along those lines.

  • CaptainBlack

    4eva, so DHB will have to be told where to run his routes in the huddle.

  • http://blstb.msn.com/i/55/90A2853B6CFBCC2AFC987BB18B832.jpg vegas raider

    But Mitchell is not a FS and if he is starting back there we are in a world of shyt when it comes to coverage.

  • El Tato

    Billick won the Super Bowl in 2000

  • RaiderRockstar

    SS # 36 Derrick Gibson was out of the league at 27.

    ***

    so Mitchell still has another 5 years in the league?

  • raider91

    Basically I just started watchin football about a month ago. lmao

  • El Tato

    I dont want to see Mitchell at FS

  • CaptainBlack

    Barnwell caught 115 passes and 4 TD in a four year career. Great player, 4eva.

  • http://blstb.msn.com/i/55/90A2853B6CFBCC2AFC987BB18B832.jpg vegas raider

    Billick would be good, probably great, but everytime I think of him I think of his love-affair with Elvis Grbac.

    That was a collosal disaster, and if he would have just left Dilfer back there they would have won more than one SB, IMO.

  • Carl Weathers

    Raider91 was obviously born in ’91…

    I can’t see Billick working under Davis. But would welcome him if he was hired!

  • http://www.Move2Alameda.com KoolKell

    What makes Al Davis such a scumbag is that he runs everything, and blames everybody else.

  • El Tato

    Mitchell missed training cam, OTAs and preseason, thats huge for a rookie

  • Florida Pete

    i think the phrase we are looking for is:

    no coach with any self-respect would come here to coach is he has any… and i do mean ANY… other option…

  • raider91

    El Tato I know that much he did win 1 SB.

  • Mistabrown

    Well have you heard of John Madden, Bill Walsh, Don Shula, Tom Landry, Bill Cower, Bill Belichick, Joe Bugel?

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    raider91 Says:
    January 4th, 2010 at 12:29 pm

    Basically I never heard of Brian Billick thats why I assumed he sucks

  • Carl Weathers

    Corrrection:

    Basically Raider91 was obvioulsy born in’91

  • El Tato

    Dilfer was nothing special either, defense won SB

  • RaiderRockstar

    I think Carnell Lake had like 10 sacks one year as a blitzing DB in nickle situations. I think Mitchell can have an impact along those lines.

    ***

    so the remedy is trade him to Philly, Pittsburgh or Baltimore? that way he’ll be on an attacking defense!

    haha. it’s hard to strike fear into an offense when they can simply hand the ball off to anybody for 5+ yards

  • CaptainBlack

    4eva, so DHB is a 30 million dollar decoy?

  • Mistabrown

    Kinda like our Pres.

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    # KoolKell Says:
    January 4th, 2010 at 12:36 pm

    What makes Al Davis such a scumbag is that he runs everything, and blames everybody else.

  • morilla

    Well, Billick is a decent coach. He did goods things at Baltimore. He is also good freinds with Al and had a sit down with him last year. I heard an interview with him and they asked him if he was offered the position. He was pretty dodgy and didn’t really answer the question. BUt he just kept on gushing about Al and what he has done for football. So who knows…

  • http://blstb.msn.com/i/55/90A2853B6CFBCC2AFC987BB18B832.jpg vegas raider

    Man I really like TCU tonight but that -7.5 really scares me.

    Boise State played 3 bowl teams this year. Those teams are 0-3.

    TCU played 6 bowl teams. Those teams are 6-0.

    No brainer right? I’m still scared to pull the trigger.

  • The Return of Godliness

    # KoolKell Says:
    January 4th, 2010 at 12:25 pm

    Small crowd: An announced crowd of 38,400 – many who never seemed to find their seats – witnessed the seventh non-sellout of the 2009 season.

    The Raiders’ season average of 44,285, last in the league, is the franchise’s lowest since 1967.

    Read more: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2010/01/04/SPSS1BD19U.DTL#ixzz0bg3M3aKP
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    Can you just die already old man

    You bring nada to the table

  • raider91

    Yes ive heard of Madden, Flores, Cowher seen him hating the raiders on Fox, steeler maggot.

  • http://blstb.msn.com/i/55/90A2853B6CFBCC2AFC987BB18B832.jpg vegas raider

    LOL….Sad but true Rockstar

  • RaiderResurrection

    Carl Weathers Says:
    January 4th, 2010 at 12:10 pm
    Did we hire a GM yet?

    If Cable gets fired in a metting with Al, maybe he’ll snap and give Al a few shots to the head leaving him incapable of running the team

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    As stupid as it sounds, it very well might be a solution. LOL

  • mistic1

    I am an Al Davis homer??!!?! In what way? I love the silver and black, and I understand what it means to have Davis run the show. I agree Davis makes mistakes, and miscalculations, you win some and you lose some. I am also aware that his methods, however clandestine, or draconian produces dramatic results. Our history over 50 years with Davis leaves no middle ground, we are either really good or really bad, we are rarely middle of the pack. I dont mind Davis’s go for the gusto all or nothing philosophy. At least the guy that owns my team is a football guy, that wants to win more than anything else. Davis has a clear philosophy and its up to the coach to execute this concept. That is a basic model in any business. The owner has a plan and brings in managers to execute the plan. When the business is not doing well the owner doesnt fire himself, he brings in different managers to get the job done. Do I wish Davis would do things differently at times.. yes, do I agree with every move he makes of course not. Davis is not bullet proof, and he deserves the heat when his plan fails. However the fact that there is no mystery about who is in charge, or who runs the show is something I respect. Triumph or failure we know where the buck stops. This is a much more of honest and up front approach than we see in most professional sports today.

  • http://blstb.msn.com/i/55/90A2853B6CFBCC2AFC987BB18B832.jpg vegas raider

    Last one than I got to go back to work….

    I had a talk with a buddy and he compared Russell to JJ Reddick. Reddick has the most beautiful shot you ever saw, Russell throws the most impressive spiral at times and has the strongest arm.

    If you leave Reddick open he will make it. If you give Russell plenty of time and a huge pocket he can throw lasers.

    But guess what, in the NBA you aren’t going to be wide-open often, and in today’s NFL, you rarely get plenty of time and a huge pocket. Reddick never adapted and I doubt Russell will either.

  • new englandraider

    wow comparing mitchell to gibson. you just gave 2 examples of mm giving up a reception. 2 in 16 games. name more. and yes he was out of postion twice yesterday. the td against wash, nnamdi was lined up behin mm in a zone. nnamdi took off towards middle of field and left mm alone. did he not?

  • JB

    Maybe the real test on whether JaBustus is the worst QB prospect ever is your answer to the following question:

    If your team was in the key game of the year, which QB would you hope was playing for the other team. If you picked JaBustus like I did, it should be clear that this person shouldn’t even be in the NFL. Yes, he can throw a laser type pass and every now & then it may go where it was intended but, is he bright enough & dedicated enough to lead & manage the team throughout the entire game? I think not. In my view, Jabustus is just a freak of nature who happened to be just what AD was looking for – the reincarnation of Jeff George. It is my prediction that JaBustus has no more than 1 year left in this league before finally realizes that he really is as bad as he looks. Many have made excuses for him but that approach is wearing thin on the few supporters that are left. JuBustus just needs recognized for what he is, the absolute WORST BUST EVER and then we can all move on. You may not agree with me on this issue but in the words of the infamous AD, GET OVER IT. Jabustus’s 15 minutes of fame and wealth are long over and past due. Let’s just all get along, kicking his ass to the curb and moving on.

    Draft OL, MLB, DL and pickup Troy Smith, QB in FA. Name a new HC and hope remains eternal.

  • raider91

    Morilla, I see now Billick For GM… or coach? obviously I want Cable to stay since the players want it like Namdi we need some continuity.

  • new englandraider

    gibson on the other hand would bite on every pump fake, double move or play action. mm’s rookie season was better than any season debbie gibson played

  • Ghost to the Post

    Hola Nation! Vegas I feel you on the TCU pick tonight. I think we both have to remember that defense wins Championships. Idaho did win there bowl. And Boise did beat them. I was fortunate enough to talk with Jim Harbough. He says he has a good relationship with Al. And I think he loved the atmosphere of the pro game. I think when you look at the NFL. It’s head and shoulders over coaching in the PAC 10. I told Jim that the blog had him as our next head coach. He acted suprised but, he didn’t act disintereted at all. I would say he would be receptive. His brother is coaching in the Big Leagues and I think that has appeal to him.

  • mistic1

    What professional sports owner fires himself? Coaches come and go. They stay when they win and when they lose they are out. Bidwell, ford, glazer, adams, craft, york, mara, johnson, brown. These are just a few examples of owners that have had their far share of struggles, with winning and picking coaches or players. These guys dont fire themselves, they clean house and start again.

  • Ghost to the Post

    disinterested

  • mistic1

    Players want cable to stay because they do not fear or respect him. Players know they can get away with murder and will not be disciplined. the melt down in cleveland with team captains acting like idiots on the field and cable pretended not to see it. No 21 is a great player but he is not a leader. The defense does not rally around him, I dont think he knows whats best for this team. Players play, lets leave selecting coaches to the front office, thats the way it typically works in this league.

  • CaptainBlack

    Only problem Mistic, Al has let the players select the HC. The Raiders have not played disciplined football since John Madden was HC.

  • CaptainBlack

    4eva, still want to discuss Barnwell?

  • RaiderRockstar

    NEW POST!

  • locoelco79

    Even though Cable is no the most talented coach, he has been able to make some apparent progress with the team. With that as well as the need to maintain a consistent system, firing Cable would not be a good idea. If anything, Cable appears to have acknowledged the need for growth and adjustments and that can come over time. But to change the entire coaching staff, again, is just setting up the Raiders for more years of losing seasons.

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  • snnyjcbs

    Cable will be going no place and will, as should be the Raiders coach next year. First time in many years that I will be looking forward to the off season and the new year to start.

    My guess is there will be a structure change with regards to play calling. They will add and tweak some things and move forward.

    As for the Fans and making them happy, it will not happen until the wins are there. The base of Raider Fans has fallen as low as the country has over the years. Raider Nation looks to have become a Nation of PUNKS, so sad.