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By Jon Becker
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January 4th, 2010 at 9:46 pm
FIRE CABLE
FIRE DHB
FIRE BRL
January 4th, 2010 at 9:50 pm
Hire Madden as GM,
Gruden back as HC,
Tim Brown receivers coach,
Maybe that will get more than 5 wins next year.
January 4th, 2010 at 9:58 pm
MTraidernation, Cable brings continuity? Continuity of what? I see the same Raider team basically since ‘03. Only one game better, to be exact. Thanks Gradkowski, and Pittsburgh, for being choke artists.
Jon Gruden took a 4-12 team to 8-8. 100% improvement.
Lane Kiffin took a 2-14 team to 4-12. 4-12 doesn’t come close to cutting it in this league, but math doesn’t lie. It’s a 100% improvement.
Tom Cable, considering this is his first full season, took a 5-11 team to….drumroll…5-11.
I don’t know what the Websters’ definition of continuity is, but I’m going to take the liberty of revising the definition now. My definition of the word, in regards to the success of pro sports teams, is continuing something that is actually good, or that is at least an improvement from previous management. No such thing. Tom Cable proved to be not an iota better than Lane Kiffin. In fact, considering Kiffin had us at 2-2 to start off in ‘07, I’d say Cable is worse. Cable never had us close to .500 in week 4 or beyond. Face it, we’re starting from scratch, and Cable is just part of the same old losing culture.
January 4th, 2010 at 10:07 pm
DHB should be a strong safety.
He’s big and fast and can’t catch.
January 4th, 2010 at 10:08 pm
As a matter of fact, considering Cable had a head start of almost a full season before his first full actual season as head coach, he has no excuse whatsoever, none whatsoever, for not having this team at at least 7 wins. I honestly believe the only success Cable had was on the back of the few things Kiffin was able to change as he tried as hard as he could to revamp this organization in his short time here. Tom Cable might honestly be the worst Raider coach ever. Considering his off the field problems to boot (hitting women?!?), the case to fire him is almost insurmountable.
January 4th, 2010 at 10:24 pm
I can’t believe there are still people in here making excuses for JaMarcus. The guy just had one of the worst seasons of any NFL QB in recent memory. Despite what some are saying the offense was dramatically better with Frye and especially Gradkowski in there. In 7 games those guys each had a 300-yard passing game and in the two games where they each left at the half (vs. Washington & Baltimore) they had thrown for over 150 yards and were on pace for 300-yard outings. JaMarcus has yet to throw for 300 yards in a single game in his career.
JaMarcus looked awesome in a few flashes against Baltimore. No kidding. He was throwing it better than he probably ever has in his career. But he still had 2 turnovers and just 3 points in one half of play. Against Washington: 1 turnover and 3 points in one half of play. The guy is just completely inconsistent. He’s really incapable of leading a TD drive — which is pretty much unheard of short of 3rd-string QBs in the NFL.
Here are JaMarcus’ TD “drives” (there are so few I can easily list them):
Wk 1 vs. SD:
1) 8 runs, 2 passes Bush scores on 4-yard run.
2) Russell hits Murphy on 4th and 14 for a 57-yard TD.
Wk 2 vs. KC:
1) JaMarcus leads the Raiders on a nice 69-yard drive capped off by a McFadden TD run on a drive that started with 2:30 left in the game.
Wk 3 vs. Denver:
* No offensive TDs
Wk 4 vs. Houston:
* No offensive TDs
Wk 5 vs. NYG:
1) Raiders recover fumbled punt at Giants’ 15. 3 runs, 0 passes. Bush scores on a 5-yard run.
Wk 6 vs. Philly:
1) JaMarcus fires a nice 15-yard pass to Zach Miller who does the rest with some nice Louis Murphy blocking for an 87-yard TD.
Wk 7 vs. NYJ:
* No offensive TDs
Wk 8 vs. SD:
1) 6 runs, 1 pass on 47-yard TD drive. Capped by a Fargas 3-yard run.
Wk 10 vs. KC:
1) 3 runs (including a 60-yarder by Bush), 1 pass. Fargas scores on 1-yard run on a 70-yard drive.
Wk 14 vs. Washington:
* No offensive TDs with Russell in.
Wk 15 vs. Denver:
1) 62-yard drive. JaMarcus goes 4-for-8 on the drive with a fumble. Key plays: Cooper Carlisle recovers a sack/fumble of JaMarcus on the first play of the drive. 32-yard PI call on the Broncos. JaMarcus hits Tony Stewart on 4th and 10 to keep the drive alive.
Wk 17 vs. Baltimore:
* No offensive TDs with Russell in.
That’s it. In terms of actual QB-led “drives” and not just one-play miracles or drives where JaMarcus did virtually nothing but hand the ball off, I’ll give him 2 for the season: Week 2 against the Chiefs and Week 15 against Denver. Interestingly, both came at the end of the game with the Raiders trailing by more than 3.
Not since the first game of the season did the offense score more than 1 TD in any game with JaMarcus Russell at QB.
January 4th, 2010 at 10:32 pm
Fire Cable!!!
We have the 8th pick in this draft.
Draft ILB R McClain. Watch him on Thursday against Texas!
January 4th, 2010 at 10:34 pm
In summary:
- Raiders offense scored 8 TDs with JaMarcus at the helm this season.
- JaMarcus alone turned the ball over 17 times this season (11 INTs, 6 lost fumbles).
17 turnovers. 8 TDs (most of which he had very little to do with).
Defend that.
January 4th, 2010 at 10:35 pm
Chris,
I don’t like excuses, but I think JR can be Salvaged! He is 24, he didn’t play much his rookie season, and I liked how he played the last half of the 08 season.
January 4th, 2010 at 10:37 pm
Just read the bio on Mike Leach. It sounds like he may be a frontrunner for the HC job.
He’s a very creative OC, and has gotten good results from lesser talent. He’s into making the players tougher. And he’s into pirates. Famous pirates, pirate stories, pirate legends etc.
He and Al can compare eye patches.
Plus he was suspended for his actions by the NCAA. To Al that means “fired for cause.”
It all fits.
January 4th, 2010 at 10:39 pm
JR had a descent season in 08: 13 TDs, 8 INTs, and over 53% CMP.
BTW, that washis first season sat a starter, and this was his 2nd! I’m not ready to give up on the kid.
January 4th, 2010 at 10:44 pm
Chris in NY,
You can present a perfectly sound, logical, well thought out arguement as to why JR should be sent packing, or why DHB should be cut. The only problem with that though, is that crazy Al runs the Raiders.
He wants the team run his way.
To Al, if it worked in 1963, it can work today. You just have to hit that square peg a little harder.
January 4th, 2010 at 10:47 pm
# r8eray Says:
January 4th, 2010 at 7:45 pm
SCOUTS INC.’S TOP 32Player Pos. School Grade
1. Eric Berry* S Tennessee 97
2. Ndamukong Suh DT Nebraska 97
3. Gerald McCoy* DT Oklahoma 96
4. Joe Haden* CB Florida 96
5. Derrick Morgan* DE Georgia Tech 96
6. Russell Okung OT Okla. State 96
7. Rolando McClain* ILB Alabama 96
8. Trent Williams OT Oklahoma 95
9. Jake Locker* QB Washington 95
10. C.J. Spiller RB Clemson 95
11. Sam Bradford* QB Oklahoma 94
12. Earl Thomas* S Texas 94
13. Dez Bryant* WR Okla. State 94
14. Anthony Davis OT Rutgers 94
15. Navorro Bowman* OLB Penn State 94
16. Sergio Kindle OLB Texas 93
17. Jason Pierre-Paul DE South Florida 93
18. Taylor Mays S USC 93
19. Bruce Carter* OLB North Carolina 92
20. Brandon Spikes ILB Florida 92
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Notice how Cody is nowhere on that list.
The pick for the Raiders SHOULD be McClain, Williams, Okung, Smith, or Morgan. Taking McClain with that first pick if he is there is a no brainer really….but Al Davis’ brain is shot! Then after McClain the picks should be OT, DT, DE, FB, KR specialist in no particular order really.
BUT the old man will do something looney and draft Mays, Haden, Pierre-Paul, or Cody and then draft DB’s and WR’s the rest of the way. Sheesh…Terrible.
January 4th, 2010 at 10:51 pm
I think JR should take a pay cut, and should compete for the job next season as his last chance. DHB has the work ethic, but he wasn’t ready to start. He was a reach a 7th!!!
January 4th, 2010 at 10:51 pm
The biggest reason against JaMarcus should not be the stats. It’s easy to argue that he’s young, inexperienced, bad team, etc. The real reason to say bye-bye is his attitude.
He’s lazy and doesn’t give the impression that he even cares. People like that never improve.
If crazy does get rid of him before next year, it should be because of attitude, not production.
January 4th, 2010 at 10:52 pm
# Thec07 Says:
January 4th, 2010 at 9:46 pm
FIRE CABLE
FIRE DHB
FIRE BRL
^^^^^^^^^^
FIRE Al Davis as the GM/Personnel man/head of scouting/drafting/wannabe defensive coordinator/wannabe emperor from star wars….first and foremost.
Then and only then will the “organization” show it’s serious about WINNING.
January 4th, 2010 at 10:53 pm
Raider O,
Not so sure about McClain. I know he won awards as the nation’s top LB, but I’ve watched a few Alabama games and he hasn’t stood out at all to me. I’d actually prefer Cody.
One guy who I really hope we get is Idaho guard Mike Iupati. He’s 6-6, 330 and has some of the best feet/quickness I’ve ever seen from a guy his size. They were saying during his bowl game that he’s likely a 2nd rounder but I have a hard time seeing him get out of the 1st.
It’s probably optimistic to think these guys will be here when we pick, but I’m liking:
1. Russell Okung, OT, Oklahoma State
2. Mike Iupati, G, Idaho
3. Micah Johnson, MLB, Kentucky
3. Riley Cooper, WR, Florida
January 4th, 2010 at 10:56 pm
Raider O,
IMO, the biggest problem with DHB is not the work ethic, it is confidence. He doesn’t have any.
Most great receivers are glory hogs. They seek out the limelight. They want attention. DHB seems to shy away from it. With his size and speed he could have gone to any college. But he chose some minor school with a heavy running game and no QB. Therefore no pressure on him.
Louis Murphy was captain on a national championship team. He wants the ball. Three years from now, Murphy will be a solid starter, and DHB will be a bad memory.
January 4th, 2010 at 10:56 pm
I think Al may draft Haden. Also notice that Dunlap is not on that list.
McClain in the 1st, and Carlos Dunlap in the 2nd.
January 4th, 2010 at 10:57 pm
The league has Russell figured out. I see little hope for him.
January 4th, 2010 at 11:00 pm
Chris,
Hard to justify drafting a G in the 8th.
Would you draft him over Dunlap if both are available in the 2nd?
January 4th, 2010 at 11:01 pm
Al will NEVER hire a GM, because in order to do that, he’d have to fire the current one, and I don’t see that happening. Al is pleased with the current GM, so get over it.
January 4th, 2010 at 11:02 pm
I would trade the 2nd round pick for Sean Rogers straight up….better yet…the Raiders 1st rounder for Sean Rogers and Cleveland’s 2nd rounder.
I have a hard time seeing a top draft pick excel in Oakland. the drafting is just to foolish.
DHB? Quite possibly the worst pick ever…even worst than JaDavis because EVERYONE knew DHB was not a top wide receiver….all those players they passed on…the USC linebackers, Raji, Harvin, Britt, Nicks, Oher, Monroe, Crabtree, Orakpo….Davis has no clue what he is doing…none
Oh, fire Cable. Continuity of bad playcalling, stupid personnel decisions, and a bad o-line is continuity that has to come to an end.
Will the next hire be any better? Probably not…but you have to try…probability laws alone gives us a CHANCE at improvement. With Cable it will be more of the same…more watching Fargas, Eugene, Satele, Warren and words like we are close…turning the corner…blah, blah, blah…plus Gradkowski would be given the starting job and I am not sure that a 4th QTR against a bad Steeler team is enough to anoint a starter..
But Cable loves those scrappy undertalented players…
Time for change…Again
January 4th, 2010 at 11:02 pm
Carlos Dunlap dropped off the list because of a DUI.
January 4th, 2010 at 11:05 pm
Should have kept Kiffin. He had the right idea. Run the ball and throw the ball in spots and bring JaDavis along slowly….almost beat Buffalo and S.D with that strategy…if Ryan’s defense was competent…the Raiders are 3-1. Oh well
All Kiffin did was tell Al to not draft JaDavis and fire Rob Ryan…hell, I’d be looking for a new job too if my boss told me to pound sand after rejecting those suggestions….
January 4th, 2010 at 11:10 pm
Time for change…Again
24.NorthernD Says:
January 4th, 2010 at 11:02 pm
Carlos Dunlap dropped off the list because of a DUI.
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DE is not the need for this team…Ellis, Seymour, Shaughnessy, Scott on 3rd downs, is enough for now to not warrant a 1st round pick.
How about DT. We have no nose tackle and the run defense is 29th….and that is with Rob Ryan being fired.
How about an OT.
It SHOULD be about lineman…not linebackers, cornerbacks, receivers, safeties or kickers.
Inside out folks. Linebackers are worthless without a strong D-Line and a strong DTs that can occupy blockers and let the backers fly.
Look at the Vikings. Great D-Line and average linebackers. Show me a good MLB and you will see a good DT. Period.
Stop the outside in crap. We have a fleet footed light team that gets pushed around all over the field.
Build the lines and NOTHING ELSE! That included Morrison. I would rather keep Morrison and get a boss NT. You draft an MLB without that NT and you all will be here next year complaining about the latest BUST
January 4th, 2010 at 11:12 pm
-1st: Suh, McClain, or Okung.
-2nd: Dunlap, Iupati, or DT Jared Odrick.
January 4th, 2010 at 11:13 pm
If moron fans and the media were making fun of Andre Smith running with his shirt off and showing his man boobs last year than I can’t wait to see the over reaction when Cody runs with his shirt off! LOL
January 4th, 2010 at 11:15 pm
# Raider O Says:
January 4th, 2010 at 11:12 pm
-1st: Suh, McClain, or Okung.
-2nd: Dunlap, Iupati, or DT Jared Odrick.
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Agreed…..I wouldn’t have any problem with any of those players being targeted with the 1st and 2nd round picks. Odrick and Iupati would be great 2nd round picks actually!
January 4th, 2010 at 11:26 pm
Another player who should be targeted in Round 2 is OG John Jerry from Ole Miss.
At 6′6, 335-340 pounds he would bring some much needed power to that RG position without a doubt!
I doubt Iupati will be there by the time the Raiders pick in Round 2. It’s possible…..but doubtful.
January 4th, 2010 at 11:28 pm
1st: McClain
2nd: Dunlap ( move Seymour inside)
3rd: DT Mike Neal or Vince Oghobaase.
3rd: RT Sam Young or Kyle Calloway.
4th: CB Syd Thompson if Available, or CB/ KR Leroy Vann or Vernor from UCLA
All will start their rookie season, and we can fix the rest with FA.
January 4th, 2010 at 11:36 pm
After that draft, we cut TK, Warren, and Resign TH. That will gives is a Defense that can stop the run, and rush the passer. Sign a RT, RG, and another Vet QB to compete with Bruce & JR.
Draft a FB or sign 1 after the draft.
January 4th, 2010 at 11:38 pm
Cut Cooper, Green, EUK, Warren, TK, and Walker!!!!
January 4th, 2010 at 11:41 pm
Here is a quick mock for ya that won’t happen come draft day…..haha
RD 1. DT Terrance Cody -Alabama
RD 2. OG John Jerry -OleMiss
RD 3a. MLB Micah Johnson -Kentucky
RD 3b. OT Gabe Carimi -Wisconsin
RD 4. OLB/DE Brandon Lang -Troy
How is that one? May look nice….but it won’t happen. Al Davis sucks….
January 4th, 2010 at 11:42 pm
Agree with IslandRaider. A GM or big time head coach is never going to happen. All we can do is pull for our HC to be as Gruden/Kiffin-like as possible, and make fun of them if they don’t. That’s all I can really see doing today. I’m not going to put my faith into a coach who I know is just taking orders from Al. Why stop there? Why not have faith in winning the lottery, too? Why should I put such far fetched faith into a football team?
January 4th, 2010 at 11:43 pm
DKnight007 Says:
January 4th, 2010 at 11:13 pm
If moron fans and the media were making fun of Andre Smith running with his shirt off and showing his man boobs last year than I can’t wait to see the over reaction when Cody runs with his shirt off! LOL
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LMFAO
He’ll look like a water bed matress on legs.
January 4th, 2010 at 11:45 pm
Thats would be a great draft!
Al,
It’s not Rocket Science!!!
January 4th, 2010 at 11:51 pm
Lang is just like Scott, 6′5 255, he is a tweener.
January 4th, 2010 at 11:52 pm
Here is another that won’t happen…..
1. MLB Rolando McClain
2. OG John Jerry
3A. DT Jay Ross
3B. OT Sam Young or Gabe Carimi
4. OLB/DE Brandon Lang
January 4th, 2010 at 11:56 pm
# Raider O Says:
January 4th, 2010 at 11:51 pm
Lang is just like Scott, 6′5 255, he is a tweener.
^^^^^^^^
I will take another Trevor Scott on this team with a 4th round pick any day of the week. They finally starting utilizing Scott correctly by standing him up 80% of the time and then having him rush from a down position in certain packages.
Once Scott was moved to an elephant WLB spot, he was arguably the 2nd best defender on the team next to Nnamdi. Him and Branch were right after Nnamdi actually IMO.
January 4th, 2010 at 11:59 pm
DK,
We can run a good 3-4 with your draft.
January 4th, 2010 at 11:59 pm
Stay away from CODY.
The biggest reason Russell has been a bust so far is because he is lazy. He has a ton of talent, but just doesn’t work to improve himself. Now you want the Raiders to draft the player who never met a hamburger he didn’t like?
Draft someone who has done a sit-up in their lifetime.
Just one sit-up…
One little sit-up…
That’s all I’m asking for…
January 5th, 2010 at 12:04 am
DK,
Have Seymour and Jay play DEs, and Cody as NT.
OLBS: Scott, Lang, Ellis, and maybe TH. I dint think he fits in the 3-4.
MLB: M Johnson, Kirk
I LIKE IT!!!!!!
January 5th, 2010 at 12:11 am
I have to believe Cable will get better. Not that I think he is a great coach, but considering the weight he bore early in the season (the press, Als’ strings, the high $ picks), it seemed he wrestled some game from Al. Maybe Al liked something he saw in Cable. Now if Cable can get a decent play caller, he may be all right. He did keep this dysfunctional team from truly imploding amidst some even bad play calling. Maybe Al saw that and liked that. But for all I know, maybe Als’ got the light bulb in his overhead projector warming up.
January 5th, 2010 at 12:13 am
We can draft a QB who can do 500 sit ups and doesn’t have an ounce of body fat, and he’ll get killed in our offense. Russell isn’t the problem. He’s just one more lame player that has athletic attributes but isn’t really a football player, you know, the kind Al Davis likes. He’s just on the main stage because he’s the QB. But he’s not the problem. And, if we’re not going to get a real coach or GM, where as we’ll suck anyway, I actually hope they cut Russell and keep Cable, to see if you guys will still be blaming Russell after we go 5-11 next year (or worse). It’ll be great entertainment reading the blogs, nonetheless, which is all you can hope for in a failed season.
January 5th, 2010 at 12:18 am
Way too many maybes and ifs for me, IslandRaider. Cable took a 5-11 team to 5-11, a noted woman beater, I hope Al cans him and hires someone like Kiffin. Someone who he thinks is loyal but instead just tries to run all of his minions out.
January 5th, 2010 at 12:18 am
I’ve found this blog to be great relief during a depressing season. One more thought: I know the o-line is bad, but do you think jarmacuss made it look even worse? Granted Frye got beat up the last game, but Grad seemed like he was able to run for his life. I will give credit where credits due; JR can take the beating for sure.
January 5th, 2010 at 12:20 am
I just worry about hire, fire, re-hire, re-fire, same old song and dance. That has gotten us nowhere also. I have no answers, just dumb-assed hope.
January 5th, 2010 at 12:25 am
IslandRaider, but if what you have sucks, you have to replace it. I could see this continuity argument if say, Cable improved from last year’s record by ONE WIN. Zero improvement. You fire coaches and replace them with someone better. If the next person isn’t better, you try again.
This continuity argument should have been made when Kiffin was fired. Kiffin was fired 5 games into his second season. Talk about not being given a chance. Talk about “hiring, rehiring, firing, rehiring”. Where was that argument then?
January 5th, 2010 at 12:28 am
You’re no dumb ass, btw, IslandRaider. You’re open minded and coming up with whatever solutions you can. Just wanted to say that. You’re the last person I’d call dumb.
January 5th, 2010 at 12:33 am
It’s going to be a long off season.
January 5th, 2010 at 12:35 am
madden as our gm would be a dream come true
January 5th, 2010 at 12:44 am
Kind of like having to wade thru tar pits listening to dinasours fart is about the depth of intellect we get from these press releases. We want this, hope for that, know what could be right and clearly see whats wrong, but in the end, it all rests on Al. He just stays tucked away like some Oz, yeah, Oz Davis, and toys with his dwindling fan base. Meanwhile, we’re stuck picking fly shlt out of pepper while he sits back and eats crushed ice and clam chowder.
BTW RMR, I did like Kiffin in the sense that he was young and energetic, and yes, he was given no chance. Oz Davis was to impatient.
January 5th, 2010 at 12:47 am
The next Raider head coach will be the first one who says, ” I can work with JaMarcus. I can get to fulfill his potential. I can make him the star you thought he always would be Al.”
The Raiders next head coach…Dr. Phil…
January 5th, 2010 at 12:50 am
Someone asked what they thought Al saw in Cable.
A young fiesty, overweight offensive line coach…Slap some 1960’s sideburns on him and you’ve got a John Madden look-alike.
January 5th, 2010 at 2:22 am
Please don’t hire Gilbride as the new HC. I keep hearing it and it keeps sounding to me like the exact same unsuccessful hiring.
January 5th, 2010 at 4:11 am
Good Morning NATION!!!!
Dr.Phil,lmao!
January 5th, 2010 at 4:12 am
lol….didnt Kiffin want to coach Arkansas?
January 5th, 2010 at 4:17 am
SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
January 4th, 2010 at 11:05 pm
Should have kept Kiffin. He had the right idea. Run the ball and throw the ball in spots and bring JaDavis along slowly….almost beat Buffalo and S.D with that strategy…if Ryan’s defense was competent…the Raiders are 3-1. Oh well
All Kiffin did was tell Al to not draft JaDavis and fire Rob Ryan…hell, I’d be looking for a new job too if my boss told me to pound sand after rejecting those suggestions….
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as much as i tend to agree with you…
here is where we part company…
kiffie was a joke…
let me remind you of one thing…
where cable likes to play undertalented, overachievers…
kiffie liked playing injured players, no matter how badly they were doing…
it was like 2nd string running backs and quarterbacks could not possibly be as good as the 50% injured player…
that’s college coaching… this is the NFL…
January 5th, 2010 at 4:36 am
wow….there are 3 games wild-card weekend that are REMATCHES of Sundays games! I dont think I’ve ever seen this B4
January 5th, 2010 at 5:14 am
Good Morning Nation, The Only Nation.
O.K. so people want to argue that Jmac had 11 INT’s and 6 lost fumbles to 8 TD’s. O.K. now add up that number and then count how many huge plays for TD’s and or to the goal line the defense allowed, worst in the league we were gashed. So lets now get all over Russell for his turnovers. Get on him for work ethic and then it’s justified, cause like i said we were losing long before Jmac and we lost as a team everyone is at fault. Dont do like Cable and blame Jmac thats a cop out cause who will argue the point he is an easy target. All this does is buy him another season with his QB and when that fails his fall out will be getting fired and we will be the ones in here next season saying we should draft this guy and move this guy, and get this guy as coach. Cable is the 1 to blame as he is the coach, the team needs to look in the mirror and know they are part of the problem. When players give up on fellow players they are no longer welcome as teamates in my book. Why does Cable have to tell them to step up cause Jmac is in the game. 100% at all times cause Al doesnt take money from there checks when they underperform. That includes the whole team, they all sucked at 1 point or another this season. That includes Shane, Jano missed field goals, Nnamdi allowed TD’s everyone sucked at 1 point or another so they all need improvement period.
January 5th, 2010 at 5:20 am
“When players give up on fellow players they are no longer welcome as teamates in my book.”
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yeah… let me ask you this…
if you are a hard working, showing up on time, competent, doing your very best worker…
would you tolerate a guy who shows up late, a little hung over, doesn’t seem to know his job… and is the highest paid member of your crew???
January 5th, 2010 at 5:23 am
It’s not sticking up for Jmac, it’s knowing that 1 guy and 1 guy alone will not fix or make this team. We tried that with Gradkowski and what happened the O-Line collapsed and he got hurt so there you go same with Frye. So we took out who we thought the problem was and Dallas killed us with chunk plays on Defense, then the O-Line whent all stupid and couldnt block. Gradkowski was running for his life before getting hurt, and Frye was getting nailed everytime he threw the ball. I told my wife on sunday he will not finish this game. Come on people lets stop with blaming 1 guy coach Gruden never threw his players under the bus he always took blame.
January 5th, 2010 at 5:26 am
His paycheck should not be a part of the equation thewy dont sign his checks. I said blame his work ethic i’m cool with that but by the looks of it how many on this team really worked hard. I mean did Mcfadden work hard if he did wow he sucks something bad, So i’m saying if he didnt put in the work then his numbers are justified, but if the rest of the team did whats there excuse?
January 5th, 2010 at 5:26 am
yep,to put it politely….WE WAS GAHSED =)
January 5th, 2010 at 5:29 am
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yeah… let me ask you this…
if you are a hard working, showing up on time, competent, doing your very best worker…
would you tolerate a guy who shows up late, a little hung over, doesn’t seem to know his job… and is the highest paid member of your crew???
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Or would you tolerate a guy who wouldnt play out his position to help the team for a few games?
January 5th, 2010 at 5:33 am
The only person that needs to worry about what he is getting paid should be Al, not the players or us. His work ethic well it showed it sucked. I think an open competition next season given him another chance and i bet will beat out any QB we bring in. The truth is even if he did you all will not be satisfied you want him gone and thats it. Good thing we stuck by Nnamdi, Huff, Henderson, Janikowski, and Gallery. Oh wait we did give up on them didnt we.
January 5th, 2010 at 5:38 am
4eva thats a problem worry about what you can control cause last i checked were not perfect, so strive for perfection or as close to it as possible. I dont think we all like the job the Presidents in the past or the one we have now have done and guess what they make more then us also. Control what you can control and unless your perfect dont judge another man until you have walked in his shoes.
January 5th, 2010 at 5:45 am
A good morning to the AM crew.
January 5th, 2010 at 5:45 am
Lets say just for kicks if Jmac finished the season with the stats he has now, but we finished undefeated cause of a monster Defense. Also lets say our Defense held up against the Chargers and Jmac won that game for us, along with KC, and Denver in come back fashion. So undefeated superbowl champs first team ever Jmac mediocre but good come from behind wins. Now the offseason we let him walk cause he didnt work hard enough, and the newxt season we finish 9-7 barely missing the playoffs who would be at fault?
January 5th, 2010 at 5:50 am
Now that brings up this point do you all think you can put Peyton Manning, or Brady on the Lions, Browns, or Redskins and they will succeed with there O-Lines? Hell no they are not mobile enough and would get thrashed. So what our problem then do we get a mobile QB or do we upgrade our O-Line. Brady has Billichek without him he wouldnt be as good, Manning has his continuity with out that he wouldnt be as good with changing coaches and players year in and year out.
January 5th, 2010 at 5:52 am
Woulda,coulda,shoulda…….don’t go there.It’ll just drive you nuts.
January 5th, 2010 at 5:53 am
Keep Bush! Fire Big Al….
January 5th, 2010 at 5:54 am
Morning NATION!
January 5th, 2010 at 5:57 am
Neilb it’s a game for entertainment i dont take it to heart anymore like i used to. I Love the Raiders but i dont allow my life to revolve around how they play or how they perform. I dont play fantasy football cause i know i would always pick Raider players cause i refuse to bet against them. I know that no matter what win lose or tie Raider till i die but what does booing or getting angry accomplish do you think they really care especially now that they get to go home to there families and enjoy there royalties.
January 5th, 2010 at 5:58 am
yo 408!
January 5th, 2010 at 5:59 am
GOOD MORNING SPORT’S FAN’S. I AM NOT SO SURE PLAYER’S SALERY’S SHOULD BE PUBLIC ANYWAY.IF NO ONE KNEW HOW MUCH RUSSELL WAS BANKING, I STILL WOULD NOT BE SATISFIED WITH HIS PLAY..
January 5th, 2010 at 6:01 am
4eva.. stop hatin on Bush already sheeze..
so I have the over under on cable getting fired @ 10 days Ill take the over and say Big Al will wait 2 weeks.
January 5th, 2010 at 6:01 am
Good Morning DIRT-LOT,
are you satisfied with the play of the rest of the team? if you are just think they actually worked hard and still sucked whats there excuse?
January 5th, 2010 at 6:03 am
R8drlfe21…
You took the words right out of my mouth.
January 5th, 2010 at 6:03 am
Cable will be let go or demoted on 01/11/10 that is the day he meets with the GODFATHER of football.
January 5th, 2010 at 6:04 am
GREAT MINDS Neilb lol.
January 5th, 2010 at 6:07 am
Sorry missed a “4″ from your name.Sorry.
January 5th, 2010 at 6:09 am
OUTSIDE OF THE KICKER’S AND MAYBE,I SAY MAYBE NnAMDI,I AM NOT SURE.U COULD TAKE ANYONE OFF OF THIS TEAM AND THEY WOULD STILL BE A 4-5 WIN TEAM.
January 5th, 2010 at 6:09 am
408….its not my fault your boy only looks out for himself in a TEAM sport….but go-ahead and support him
January 5th, 2010 at 6:10 am
4evaRaider Says:
January 5th, 2010 at 5:29 am
Or would you tolerate a guy who wouldnt play out his position to help the team for a few games?
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actually i would… and i gave you several discussions about this… here’s another analogy…
ya got a brand new framer… seems pretty good… in fact he becomes the best producer… fits into the crew… carries his weight…
now the foreman tells him he needs someone to scrap houses… cause the laborer’s aren’t coming anymore…
now as one of the senior members of the crew… i would tell him not to do it… ’cause once you do… and if you are any good at it… that will be your job…
and the salary cap on that position is very low indeed…
January 5th, 2010 at 6:11 am
Neilb it’s just a “4″ no biggie i understood.
January 5th, 2010 at 6:12 am
Ref post #80…
Put it another way.How many Raiders could make other teams?….and while you’re thinking about that,how many coaches would ?
January 5th, 2010 at 6:16 am
Paul Hackett would, Cable as an O-Line coach would, Marshall would, Nnamdi, Shane, Jano, Fargas, Gallery, Seymour, Howard, pretty much our whole defense with discipline, Mcfadden would if used the right way, M-Bush would, Chaz, Murphy. The point is we have talent but we dont have an O-Line if you notice i left almost that whole group off and Cable but not as head coach.
January 5th, 2010 at 6:17 am
4evaRaider Says:
January 5th, 2010 at 6:09 am
408….its not my fault your boy only looks out for himself in a TEAM sport….but go-ahead and support him
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bush is looking out for himself because Cable sure isn’t…
cable likes under-talented, over-achievers…
the undertalented part of the equation means that Bush will never be Cable’s boy…
you will see… if Cable stays, then Bush will be under-used until free agency…
then he can go to a team that appreciates football talent…
and shortly after that, you and everyone will be wondering why oh why didn’t we have him as our main back???
January 5th, 2010 at 6:20 am
M-Bush is a bruiser being used as a cut back runner when he does play. Cable put him in the dog house when he was asking for Gilbride last season saying he like what he is doing for Jacobs and the rest of the running game. Cable is immature he blames players and is mor delusional then Russell was as far as thinking he did a great job.
January 5th, 2010 at 6:22 am
IMO Pete Bush will have to overcome his stamina issues for that to happen….Maybe he try harder somewhere else?
January 5th, 2010 at 6:23 am
Hackett,Marshall and Cable as an O-line coach…..agreed.
The players….
Both kickers,Nnamdi,Seymour,Scott,maybe Branch and Huff.From the O….Chaz,Miller and maybe Bush,Dmac and Murphy.
January 5th, 2010 at 6:23 am
Stamina is built with continuing to play as you cannot simulate game play without playing. So if Cable has him sitting guess what his stamina will be an issue.
January 5th, 2010 at 6:24 am
Who would make other teams?
On Offense, Bush (probably would start on a lot of teams), McFadden (would be back-up), Schillens as a #2 WR, Murphy, Miller(for sure), Gallery. Not much actually.
On Defense it’s a lot more:
Namdi, Branch, Huff(how he played this year he’d get a chance to play on another team), Seymore, Ellis, Morrison could probably find a team & same with Thomas Howard, Trevor Scott, Shonessey would be given a chance.
On the coaches not many would be able to catch on at another team at their same level. Probably only our QB coach & D-Coordinator.
Now, notice though the lack of DTs & O-Linemen that would be able to play on other teams. That’s what we need to FIX and FAST
January 5th, 2010 at 6:24 am
by “try harder” I mean work harder in off-season 2B in tip-top shape come the season
January 5th, 2010 at 6:24 am
And of course Lechler & SeaBass.
January 5th, 2010 at 6:26 am
Florida Pete Says:
January 5th, 2010 at 6:17 am
bush is looking out for himself because Cable sure isn’t…
cable likes under-talented, over-achievers…
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LOL!! Yeah, undertalented overachievers. Like Russell and DHB who he had starting? Or do you mean like DMAC who got more carries than Bush when healthy? They are all under-talented overachievers….HA!
January 5th, 2010 at 6:27 am
Cable’s lack of reckognizing the teams struggles is why he will be canned. He tried running on the Ravens but refused to run against the Browns. If he knows Jmac is struggling in the pocket run the ball more or get some shorter crossing routes. Just cause we have speed with our WR’s doesnt mean go deep every play. With there speed i think quicker cutting routes would suit them better. Right at the snap of the ball quick slants what DB will hang with our speed we would have so much YAC by running these plays. And power block for goodness sakes it’s so much easier pre snap knowing what man you got.
January 5th, 2010 at 6:28 am
Actually….on second thought Florida Pete, you might be right. If he was just playing them to keep Al happy, he does seem to like the “give it their all” players. He does give Fargas WAY more than he deserves with his level of play. But other than that I don’t know an exception of who he played that was a overachiever that wasn’t the best person out there.
January 5th, 2010 at 6:30 am
You cannot simulate actual gameplay unless you play. I jog everyday but when i play football with friends i’m so much more sore beacause it’s a different style of running. So Bush needs gametime.
January 5th, 2010 at 6:30 am
Russell is the QB. The QB has to be the leader and the hardest worker.
That comes with the position. The QB gets paid the most, gets the most fanfare, gets the pretty girls in school and so on and so on.
Jamarcus likes all the sizzle with the QB position, but isn’t willing to do the REQUIRED work and embrace the leadership position.
So he most go. It will never work and his teammates don’t respect him.
January 5th, 2010 at 6:32 am
Rout or Eugene come off the bench and they really running around and you dont see them asking for a breather.I just cant get behind a guy that wont help the team and change positions for a couple of games.If he was an explosive bull like Earl Campbell then I could understand his position.But even after all that bullsh!t,no matter which side of the fence you are on when it comes to Bush….For him to be a professional football RB and ask for a breather when you have been rested all year means you DONT respect the game and do what it personally takes TO PLAY IT.Hmmm sounds like….
January 5th, 2010 at 6:33 am
This is a team of underachievers that includes Nnamdi. He needs to step up and take the leader role as one of the longest tenured Raiders. We lack fire, i mean at least last season the Turd Sands socked Shane on a plane, ok wrong guy to sock but the spirit was there.
January 5th, 2010 at 6:33 am
r8dr4lfe21,
On Russell’s fumble Sunday, HE admitted he was trying to dump it off to the RB. Only problem is that it took him 5 seconds to process that, and he only had 4 seconds.
It wasn’t Cable telling everyone to go deep, he had a checkdown that he wanted to throw too. He had 4 seconds to pass the ball AGAINST THE BALTIMORE RAVENS!!! You got to get rid of the ball.
January 5th, 2010 at 6:35 am
You cant compare a DB to a running back that gets hit everyplay he is in, and Routt or Eugene OMG Eugene LMFAO what good is conditioning if you get manhandled lol. Russell’s teamates have no room to not respect him as they are to blame themselves a bunch of underachievers.
January 5th, 2010 at 6:38 am
I seen the play and he couldnt just dump it off as Green allowed his guy to get to deep in the backfield and would have batted it down. Russell had to wait for it to clear and it never did. No excuses his work ethic sucks but as a player he is no worse then Morrison, Eugene, Green or any other player that works harder then him and still sucks.
January 5th, 2010 at 6:38 am
4eva… you like fargas and dhb… i don’t…
i like bush… you don’t…
but i respect you as a raider fan through and through…
we’ll have to leave it at that…
January 5th, 2010 at 6:39 am
No room not to respect him??? WTF
You have to EARN respect, you just don’t get it. You telling me that Russell earned his teammates respect?
Blowing off the last day of OTA’s, unable to practice during a game week due to getting tattoos on his throwing hand, blowing off the first day of the offseason, being the worst QB in the league, showing up to camp “a little heavy” and not knowing the playbook.
How does that earn you respect?
January 5th, 2010 at 6:41 am
Wow so the play was every one go deep you stay short and he will pass you the ball and you run fast. Sounds like kiddie stuff even more reason to fire Cable for lackluster playcalling. I know thats all Russell can comprehend right o.k. but still wow. Who cares if it’s the Ravens we need the mentality that we dont give a rat’s ass who we play we will dominate and run our plays let them adjust to us. Our team on the O-Line is just not good period.
January 5th, 2010 at 6:41 am
I dont like BRL….
I dont like DHB…..
I dont like Morrison….
I dont like cable….
I dont like the dischargers….
I dont like anchovies…..
I dont like MR. Davis as a GM…..
I dont like losing….
January 5th, 2010 at 6:42 am
raiderzmaverick Says:
January 5th, 2010 at 6:28 am
Actually….on second thought Florida Pete, you might be right. If he was just playing them to keep Al happy, he does seem to like the “give it their all” players. He does give Fargas WAY more than he deserves with his level of play. But other than that I don’t know an exception of who he played that was a overachiever that wasn’t the best person out there.
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over-achiever was the wrong word for me to use…
“trying their best” should have been the phrase i used…
undertalented, but trying their best… those are the players Cable likes…
maybe because it describes Cable, himself…
January 5th, 2010 at 6:43 am
Good Morning
Vegas.
We agree on JR but perhaps for slightly different reasons.
No NFL team can pay a guy the amount JR gets with so little production.
If he/agent will not accept a large pay cut he will go.
The thing Cable has done is play guys who produce regardless of the “scholarship” perception.
We are much further along regarding accountability than we have been since the Gruden years.
I believe Cable and his staff stay despite what the media is saying.
We did not mail in the last game like the Giants. Cable is doing as much as he can with what we have.
If we focus on the Oline and keep Grad upright we will be very competitive next year.
January 5th, 2010 at 6:43 am
Tatoo on hand and blowing off practice??? How dumb this FAT F@CK is never ceases to amaze me. first time I heard that one…. Not suprised, BRL is a brain dead,
just like his head coach….
January 5th, 2010 at 6:44 am
I don’t like the French.
January 5th, 2010 at 6:44 am
r8dr4lfe21 Says:
January 5th, 2010 at 6:41 am
Who cares if it’s the Ravens we need the mentality that we dont give a rat’s ass who we play we will dominate and run our plays let them adjust to us.
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Uhhhh…This isn’t Madden. Teams have a thing called a game-plan that adjust week to week depending on the team they play. Even the Colts adjust to the Ravens. Don’t be crazy.
January 5th, 2010 at 6:45 am
Yes Sir Pete….back at cha Bro!
January 5th, 2010 at 6:45 am
HOW COME U DO NOT LIKE ANCHOVIES THEC ?
January 5th, 2010 at 6:46 am
……and I’m getting freaking sick of the freaking snow.
January 5th, 2010 at 6:47 am
True but why make it out to sound like we cant run our gameplan just cause it’s the Ravens. That is Cables weakness running the ball against the Ravens knowing there DB’s suck, but throwing against the Browns knowing there run D sucks.
January 5th, 2010 at 6:49 am
This team as a whole has no right to blame anyone until they can look in the mirror and know that they played mistake free and didnt miss assignments. Russell has work ethic problems o.k. i get it but what is the teams excuse for there lackluster play and missed assignments?
January 5th, 2010 at 6:49 am
– Cable conceded he may have spread himself too thin and sounded open to delegating some duties _ including play-calling _ if postseason analysis proves that would be the right path.
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Go back and look at the archives, I bet several of you guys were screaming cable should not be calling plays.
Took him the end of the year to figure this out?????
Cable is a brain dead, he should have been fired first game…..
I would bet even money that some guys on this blog can play call a better game than cable….
Hire a GM
Mr. Davis retire
GM cleans house and structures the org, he will have to hire whole depatments, to replace Mr. Davis
GM fire cable for conduct detrimental to winning.
January 5th, 2010 at 6:50 am
Then you should like this Neilb!
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Ted Nugent, rock star and avid bow hunter from Michigan, was being interviewed by a French journalist, an animal rights activist.
The discussion came around to deer hunting.
The journalist asked, ‘What do you think is the last thought in the head of a deer before you shoot him? Is it, ‘Are you my friend?’ or is it ‘Are you the one who killed my brother?
Nugent replied, ‘Deer aren’t capable of that kind of thinking. All they care about is, what am I going to eat next, who am I going to screw next, and can I run fast enough to get away. They are very much like the French.’
The interview ended.
January 5th, 2010 at 6:50 am
DIRT-LOT FOOTBALL Says:
January 5th, 2010 at 6:45 am
HOW COME U DO NOT LIKE ANCHOVIES THEC ?
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On Pizza, anchovies are horrible….
January 5th, 2010 at 6:53 am
they are just horrible….Period lol
The End =)
January 5th, 2010 at 6:53 am
Cable spent the first week of training camp going over the basics, how did that work out? Cable refuses to play Bush, how did that pan out? Cable refuses to run shorter patterns, how did that work out? Cable picked this crap zone blocking O-Line, how did that work out?
January 5th, 2010 at 6:55 am
4eva, what up ????
January 5th, 2010 at 6:56 am
Guys.
You can not even compare Madden to what goes on today.
The QB called the plays under Madden.
Madden ran the “pure vanilla” offense everyone thinks is indicative of a “brain dead” coach.
The difference is Madden had Hall of Fame LINE talent.
Cable does not.
January 5th, 2010 at 6:56 am
Theres plenty of blame to go around, so lets spread it around a bit. Morrison, Jmac, Mcfadden, Green, C-Johnson, Cable, Al Davis and on and on…..
January 5th, 2010 at 6:56 am
r8dr4lfe21 Says:
January 5th, 2010 at 6:53 am
Cable spent the first week of training camp going over the basics, how did that work out? Cable refuses to play Bush, how did that pan out? Cable refuses to run shorter patterns, how did that work out? Cable picked this crap zone blocking O-Line, how did that work out?
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New GM, fire coach cable for conduct detrimental to winning football games…
January 5th, 2010 at 6:57 am
I don’t like ham.
January 5th, 2010 at 6:57 am
He ment Madden the game lol.
January 5th, 2010 at 6:57 am
Pete’s Stock Exchange
Raider Players whose stock went UP this year:
Louis Murphy Wide Receiver
Matt Shaughnessy Defensive Lineman
Michael Mitchell Defensive Back
Trevor Scott Defensive Lineman
Tyvon Branch Defensive Back
Michael Bush Running Back
Zach Miller Tight End
Shane Lechler Punter
Michael Huff Defensive Back
Sebastian Janikowski Place Kicker
Stanford Routt Defensive Back
Desmond Bryant Defensive Lineman
Langston Walker Tackle
January 5th, 2010 at 6:57 am
GOD BLESS TED NUGENT !!!!!!!!
January 5th, 2010 at 6:58 am
Thec07, yes agreed fire him 01/11/10 is D-day for Cable welcome Gilbride with open arms and cross your freakin fingers lol.
January 5th, 2010 at 6:58 am
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/01/05/report-cowher-meeting-with-bills-again-today/
January 5th, 2010 at 6:58 am
Morning Thec!….wait’ll next year.I got patience but this IS getting old,imo
January 5th, 2010 at 6:59 am
408, what up Bruh???
I dont like ham….
I dont like green eggs….
I dont like DHB…..or BRL….
January 5th, 2010 at 6:59 am
Hams pretty good with green eggs 408
January 5th, 2010 at 7:00 am
Florida Pete Says:
January 5th, 2010 at 6:57 am
Pete’s Stock Exchange
Raider Players whose stock went UP this year:
Louis Murphy Wide Receiver
Matt Shaughnessy Defensive Lineman
Michael Mitchell Defensive Back
Trevor Scott Defensive Lineman
Tyvon Branch Defensive Back
Michael Bush Running Back
Zach Miller Tight End
Shane Lechler Punter
Michael Huff Defensive Back
Sebastian Janikowski Place Kicker
Stanford Routt Defensive Back
Desmond Bryant Defensive Lineman
Langston Walker Tackle
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Love the list i agree on all of them.
January 5th, 2010 at 7:00 am
Pete’s Stock Exchange
Raider Players whose stock went DOWN this year:
Johnnie Lee Higgins Wide Receiver
Oren O’Neal Running Back
Samson Satele Center
Robert Gallery Guard
Isaiah Ekejiuba Linebacker
Chris Johnson Defensive Back
JaMarcus Russell Quarterback
Darren McFadden Running Back
Darrius Heyward-Bey Wide Receiver
Cornell Green Tackle
Hiram Eugene Defensive Back
Khalif Barnes Tackle
Kirk Morrison Linebacker
Luke Lawton Running Back
Richard Seymour Defensive Lineman
Thomas Howard Linebacker
Bruce Gradkowski Quarterback
Chris Morris Center
Todd Watkins Wide Receiver
Cooper Carlisle Guard
Erik Pears Tackle
January 5th, 2010 at 7:00 am
I thought you would like that one Neilb!
January 5th, 2010 at 7:00 am
Vegas,
You’re just taking this Jamarcus Russell thing way too personal. You’re setting yourself up for more heart ache next year, lol.
January 5th, 2010 at 7:01 am
4evaRaider,we go thru the same SH!T every year, we need a GM to clean house…..
January 5th, 2010 at 7:02 am
Thec.. All is good.. Cable watch day 2.
I don’t like not having a GM.
I Do like Cable with an OC..
January 5th, 2010 at 7:02 am
Pete’s Stock Exchange
Raider Players whose stock went NOWHERE (neither up nor down) this year:
Brandon Myers Tight End
Chaz Schilens Wide Receiver
Jay Richardson Defensive Lineman
Mario Henderson Tackle
Justin Fargas Running Back
Javon Walker Wide Receiver
Greg Ellis Defensive Lineman
Tommy Kelly Defensive Lineman
Gerard Warren Defensive Lineman
Nnamdi Asomugha Defensive Back
Jon Alston Linebacker
Jon Condo Linebacker
Ricky Brown Linebacker
Charlie Frye Quarterback
David Nixon Linebacker
Gary Russell Running Back
Johnathan Holland Wide Receiver
Nick Miller Wide Receiver
Sam Williams Linebacker
Slade Norris Linebacker
Tony Stewart Tight End
William Joseph Defensive Lineman
January 5th, 2010 at 7:02 am
Pete, I agree with you on your list, I have a problem though…DHB never had any stock…. He is an empty IRA account…He and BRL should be sent to the bottom of the ocean….
January 5th, 2010 at 7:04 am
Unless we get a top notched GM, and he cleans house we might as well keep captain inept….
January 5th, 2010 at 7:05 am
4eva…
I’ll bet the interviewer had onion breath,and, if it was a woman,hairy armpits.
January 5th, 2010 at 7:05 am
What freakin team has a fullback returning kickoff’s.
Cable is done and take half the O-Line with him, this man says Satele will bea good C for continuity WTF!.
January 5th, 2010 at 7:06 am
Louis Murphy is BADDASS….Best WR on this team….
January 5th, 2010 at 7:07 am
Thec07 Says:
January 5th, 2010 at 7:02 am
Pete, I agree with you on your list, I have a problem though…DHB never had any stock…. He is an empty IRA account…He and BRL should be sent to the bottom of the ocean….
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my thinking is this… new players / reasonable expectations… like catching the ball… like tackling ball carriers, sacking QBs…
Mitchell’s stock actually went up… exceeding expectations…
DHB’s stock went down cause all of us thought he could catch…
January 5th, 2010 at 7:10 am
I don’t agree with the list of who’s stock went down this year. Bruce Gradkowski’s stock DEFINITELY went up with his play. Also, I think that Robert Gallery’s stock went up. Just look at what happened when he was out of the line up compared to in it.
January 5th, 2010 at 7:10 am
408 we have to wait till all 32 teams have there coaches in check, Then we make our move as they pretty much are left without a choice in most cases lol.
January 5th, 2010 at 7:11 am
I am sure all guys have things they think about that will make them want to blow up SH!T…..
The Name DHB, or darius heyward bey, conjurs up anger in me, that I want to blow SH!T up….
Same thing with BRL…. and his non chalant cavlier attitude…
Just thinking about those 2 I want to start slammin stuff on the ground….
January 5th, 2010 at 7:12 am
Big Al’s not sitting around doing nothing.He waiting for all the good coaches,and assit coaches,to be hired elsewhere bofore he fires Cable and his crew.
January 5th, 2010 at 7:13 am
“BEFORE” DAMN IT!!
January 5th, 2010 at 7:14 am
The07 are you sur your not Cable lol. That anger seems like what ESPN was portraying him to be.
January 5th, 2010 at 7:14 am
What good coaches are left? We need a GM… It all starts at the top… We need a complete unadultered organizational overhaul…..
January 5th, 2010 at 7:16 am
What GM will fix this financial hell we are in. We are selling parts of this franchise just to operate who will fix that?
Thec07 did you get happy when DHB scored his TD or did that also piss you off?
January 5th, 2010 at 7:16 am
raiderzmaverick Says:
January 5th, 2010 at 7:10 am
I don’t agree with the list of who’s stock went down this year. Bruce Gradkowski’s stock DEFINITELY went up with his play. Also, I think that Robert Gallery’s stock went up. Just look at what happened when he was out of the line up compared to in it.
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you are absolutely correct in Grads stock going up… error on my part…
as for Gallery… stock is down because of seperate injuries keeping him out much of the year… had he been a free agent after last season he would have commanded much more money than this year…
injuries can effect a player’s stock…
January 5th, 2010 at 7:20 am
any other suggested “stock” changes…
before i mail this list to the President of the United States for executive action???
January 5th, 2010 at 7:20 am
I was happy he scored, but f@CK at the time he scored 22 rookies had more better WR stats than he had, out of those 22 5 were RB’s…..
Just thinking about a DHB i want to slam this laptop on the ground…
January 5th, 2010 at 7:22 am
“If i was cable i wouldnt hit broads….”
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and the National Organization for Women (NOW) is at this very moment drafting a Certificate of Commendation for your support of women everywhere…
January 5th, 2010 at 7:22 am
I believe Ellis’s stock went up from a leadership standpoint. I dont believe we would be talking Scott Shaunessy or Bryant if not for Ellis.
January 5th, 2010 at 7:23 am
Thec,
Not quite sure what you’re talking about. DHB was brought here to clear out areas for other recievers and run block. Didn’t you hear him talking about how well he graded out?
I don’t know why you guys don’t understand it is the coach and his scheme from top to bottom.
January 5th, 2010 at 7:23 am
You know whats funny is guys on this blog have a better clue than the actual guys running the raiders org…….Why is that????
January 5th, 2010 at 7:23 am
Well then Thec07 lets support this team through it’s ups and downs and lets not be fairweathered fans like acrossed the Bay.
January 5th, 2010 at 7:24 am
Not sure about that pete…not sure they like the term broads…..
January 5th, 2010 at 7:25 am
Thec07 they seem like better ideas but we dont have to be accountable for them. We would have given up on Nnamdi, Jano, Huff, Gallery and the list goes on.
January 5th, 2010 at 7:26 am
Jhill, what up Bro????? Cant argue your point Bro
it all starts at the top…. No way in hell i pick a DHB….
January 5th, 2010 at 7:27 am
I would have NEVER given up on the Polish Cannon!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
January 5th, 2010 at 7:28 am
or the Polish Pop-Gun!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
January 5th, 2010 at 7:28 am
Ellis is a standup guy…. He pulle BRL to the side tried to let him know what is up… He also put the team on blast during preseason….
Ellis = One of the few standup guys on this team….
January 5th, 2010 at 7:28 am
Thec07 would you have drafted Randy Moss sooner then he was picked. I dont think so the draft is a crap shoot in the 1st round you win some you lose some. What was Randy picked number 17 i think well considering that draft what player would you have chosen before Moss? Not many.
January 5th, 2010 at 7:30 am
Ellis will make a great coach 1 day, i also think we should put some money aside cause when Peyton Manning retires we need him to be our coach or cordinator that would be awesome.
January 5th, 2010 at 7:31 am
4eva, i guess i am frustrated football is over, and the results are the same….
BRL…. I actually felt sorry for him… Hope he invest in metals like silver, and gold….He wont
be making much money in the NFL anymore so he should
be set for life….
January 5th, 2010 at 7:32 am
Hey people…long time no see, so we still suck uh?.
If we’re firing Cable I’d like to hire Cam Cameron as HC.
Yes, 1-15 in his lone season as Miami HC Cam Cameron, that guy can run an offense, he did wonders for Joe Flacco and knows to use a couple of good backs…see Rice and Mcgahee.
See you guys later, happy new year to everyone.
January 5th, 2010 at 7:33 am
Can we get a GM first???
January 5th, 2010 at 7:34 am
Most money managers are saying stay way from gold and silver in 2010 thec,hope he changes out his portfolio accordingly =)
January 5th, 2010 at 7:34 am
Pete,
In my opinion Greg Ellis, Charlie Frye, Brandon Myers, Mario Henderson, Gary Russell and Chaz Schilens had their stock rise at least a bit.
Sam Williams, David Nixon, Slade Norris, William Joseph, and Johnathan Holland slipped.
January 5th, 2010 at 7:35 am
Has Russell retired yet?
For those of you that are saying Cable threw him under the bus, he’s not the only one. See comments by Gallery, Grads, Frye, Miller, Chaz, etc…
Cable hasn’t been a HC since a minor college stint a decade ago. Maybe he was HC material at the time he was hired but He sure has improved since he began his tenure last Oct.
Keep Cable as HC, Hire a proven OC, improve both lines and bring in a vet QB to compete with Grads & Losman.
January 5th, 2010 at 7:35 am
I meant maybe he WASN’T HC material
January 5th, 2010 at 7:39 am
4eva, I have been preaching gold, and sliver since around 1998…. Most “money manager” have no clue about what is going on, they will be towing the stock market company line.
Going to let you in on a secret Bruh, true wealth comes from the earth….
Track gold since 98, also look at projections on where metals are headed. buying gold at 1k an oz is cheap based on projections…
Our currency is fiat paper, nothing more, it is strategically being dumped as the currency for doing trade.
January 5th, 2010 at 7:41 am
Another WR that is better than DHB and was picked in the 7th round
Julian Edelman 11 games 37 cathches 359yds
January 5th, 2010 at 7:42 am
the dollar is also being dumped as the reserve currency….
The best play metal would be silver, as it is exponentially undervalued than gold….
January 5th, 2010 at 7:43 am
Every other advert on British tv is offering to buy any unwanted/damaged gold.
January 5th, 2010 at 7:43 am
OOOOps sorry I thought this was a raider blog
January 5th, 2010 at 7:44 am
ok Thec just pointing out what I read
January 5th, 2010 at 7:44 am
We should be hearing tsalk about MR. Davis talking to potentail GM’s as a successor to his mafia styled regime….
Then HC like cower would take notice that meddling will be a thing of the past….
No top notch HC is going to come, until the org is fixed….
Should not take a decade to fix this team….
January 5th, 2010 at 7:44 am
Sorry.
January 5th, 2010 at 7:45 am
Tollner and Hackett are about as good as it gets from an air game perspective and there is no one one better than Cable in dveloping solid ground games.
Give us a solid Oline and this will be a very good offense.
This is NOT acoaching problem. Turner is doing fine in SD after “failing” in Oakland.
WHY? TALENT.
We are going for Oline with our early picks this year.
January 5th, 2010 at 7:46 am
Yeah I hate those commercials here in the states.
Notice how they recently became a phenomenom….
I wouldnt sell them SH!T….what a way to get ripped off….
January 5th, 2010 at 7:46 am
It certainly is a Raiders blog….or where ever this venue leads us from time to time….Who knows Thec might have saved a lot of folks their hard-earned $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
January 5th, 2010 at 7:47 am
The way our first round picks have played I’d rather trade for another proven veteran.
January 5th, 2010 at 7:49 am
Thec07 Says:
January 5th, 2010 at 7:20 am
I was happy he scored, but f@CK at the time he scored 22 rookies had more better WR stats than he had, out of those 22 5 were RB’s…..
Just thinking about a DHB i want to slam this laptop on the ground…
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oh, man… that was the wrong answer Thec…
here’s the right answer:
that ball went through DHB’s hands… bounced off his chest… and he trapped it on the rebound…
it scared the schit out of him…
but… it still counted as a touchdown…
January 5th, 2010 at 7:50 am
Dallas doesn’t have a GM …
So coaches say they would love to have a direct line of communication with the owner instead of having to go through a GM.
Two trains of thought there, ya know.
Cable got along with Al just fine. Just like Gruden did.
Cable just waited too long to realize he shouldn’t have been calling or drawing up plays.
January 5th, 2010 at 7:50 am
Is Cable still HC?
January 5th, 2010 at 7:53 am
I agree Neilb. Or…..gasp….trade down…
January 5th, 2010 at 7:53 am
Time for my dinner over here,back tomorrow.
January 5th, 2010 at 7:54 am
Charlie Says:
January 5th, 2010 at 7:45 am
“and there is no one one better than Cable in dveloping solid ground games.”
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huh???
January 5th, 2010 at 7:55 am
Trade down !!!!!!!!! Wash your mouth out with soap and water.
Never happen.
Later….
January 5th, 2010 at 7:55 am
Charlie Says:
January 5th, 2010 at 7:45 am
Tollner and Hackett are about as good as it gets from an air game perspective and there is no one one better than Cable in dveloping solid ground games.
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WOW!!!
I just didn’t see much evidence of that this year. It seemed like we ran the same basic plays all year. I didn’t see ANY creativity with the offense or running game. Motioning McFadden out of the backfield to a WR spot was about as good as it got.
Very vanilla, even with the QB changes.
I will say that I don’t know who was doing what. Maybe Tollner and Hackett didn’t have any say in the game plan and play calling.
January 5th, 2010 at 7:55 am
Is all shopping for the next HC at Walmart or Harrods?
January 5th, 2010 at 7:56 am
As a hedge against inflation start buying silver….
Dont need a lot of money an oz is 16 usd…
Hold it for min 2 years or longer depending on the direction of the economy, and the “recovery”….
reap the benefits, and pay me 10% of your earnings…
Guaranteed to generate postive cash flow…
I am out have fun NATION….
January 5th, 2010 at 7:56 am
jhill Says:
January 5th, 2010 at 7:00 am
Vegas,
You’re just taking this Jamarcus Russell thing way too personal. You’re setting yourself up for more heart ache next year, lol.
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Sometimes I have to take a deep breath, take a step away and take my medicine.
When looking at the 2009 season only, there is certainly plenty of blame to pass around, I look at him as the single biggest reason the season went into the toilet.
He knew it was his job to lose and he at times seemed to try his hardest to lose it, than didn’t seem to give a crap that he did. Really frkn chaps me!!!
January 5th, 2010 at 7:57 am
CaptainBlack Says:
January 5th, 2010 at 7:55 am
Is all shopping for the next HC at Walmart or Harrods?
Is Al
January 5th, 2010 at 7:58 am
I think Cable took on more than he could chew (I know funny picture).
What’s your biggest objection to Cable? I think he finally got free reign and started playing who he wanted to play. Probably would’ve have had the balls to sit DHB before he got hurt, but I think towards the end he would have even if he was back.
So, get in an O-Coordinator and the biggest objections are handled. Offensive player utilization and play calling. Plus, with more attention on being a HC instead of trying to do everything he can only do better.
January 5th, 2010 at 7:58 am
Thec, buying gold at near the all-time high, ballsy.
Silver is undervalued though, you are correct there. I use to be a broker, and I use to trade ticker SLV for my clients.
January 5th, 2010 at 8:02 am
My wife thinks those commercials are increasing crime, or promoting crime…
January 5th, 2010 at 8:02 am
Vegas, what up Bro…. Based on the projections, some analyst have gold Breaching 10k… the economic storm that was “created” suggest this to not only the USA but to the world. Would suprise me to see gold around 5k an or higher within 2 years…Gauranteed….
But silve is the better play…. Project to 1k an oz…
January 5th, 2010 at 8:02 am
FLA Pete
Remember Cable in Atlanta?
#1 in the NFL in rushing.
Just get us an Oline and we will score points.
Has aNybody noticed that we can not run against a tough defense like Baltimore?
How many QB injuries do you need to see before you realize we can not pass block consistently well.
Grad and Frye are mobile and get the crap knocked out of them.
January 5th, 2010 at 8:04 am
Put a time stamp on this blog that what thec07 said
come baqck in 2 years and lets see where the metals are
coupled with inflation…. biggest indicator though is the dollar being replaced as the reseve currency, and watch the dumping of the dollat world wide….
True wealth comes from the ground, and not fiat paper…
January 5th, 2010 at 8:05 am
Vegas,
I think I really don’t care because first and foremost Al doesn’t care that I care, lol.
Secondly, even if Russell wasn’t all the things you say he was, I still think we don’t win more than 6 games or so.
Our season went in the Toilet the minute Chaz and Miller went down, and the game plan wasn’t adjusted by Cable. We should have never, never, never gone with a Jamarcus Russell-DHB showcase. NEVER!
January 5th, 2010 at 8:05 am
people are desperate all over….crime needs no promotion 2 thrive,imo
January 5th, 2010 at 8:07 am
Al is shopping for the next HC at the Flea Market baby!
January 5th, 2010 at 8:08 am
5K?? If that happens you might have to trade your gold for goats and cows, lol
Another way to make an “inflation” play is shorting the treasury, as interest rates rise they go up. Not as risky and not as much upside, but TBT and PST are symbols that due that.
Be careful though, metals can make wild fluctations, either way , at times.
Good luck bro. I did this stuff for almost 5 years, it’s in my blood like the Raiders, lol
January 5th, 2010 at 8:10 am
take care Brothers…..
January 5th, 2010 at 8:11 am
Charlie Says:
January 5th, 2010 at 8:02 am
FLA Pete
Remember Cable in Atlanta?
#1 in the NFL in rushing.
Just get us an Oline and we will score points.
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Cable has been here since 2007…
this IS his O-line…
maybe he should go back to Atlanta and find his running game… ’cause he sure hasn’t produced one here…
the only excuse that would be acceptable to me is if Al Davis was calling all those passing plays…
o-line injuries mostly happen on passing plays… pass too often and you start having o-line problems…
January 5th, 2010 at 8:12 am
Al is a players owner. He knows the locker room hates Jamarcus. The WRs blame him for their bad numbers, the coaches blame him for the pathetic season, the O-line hates to fella, I’m sure the D would rather have somebody else at QB…The kid is slow, and the NFL is not where slow QBs thrive.
January 5th, 2010 at 8:13 am
Atlanta had the #1 running game cause they had Vick running for 900 yards every season. The Atlanta offense never thrived.
January 5th, 2010 at 8:13 am
Jhill,
I’m sure I care way too much, I wish it wasn’t that way but it is. I wish I could be like some of my friends who play golf during Raider games these days, maybe listen on the radio when it’s not on TV. I go full-out every time they play.
It’s supposed to be my escape from reality, but lately it has been ruining my reality, lol.
The teams was probably doomed from the jump with no run D, Cable calling plays and the great decoy starting at WR. But man I sure would like to have seen what this team was capable of with Bruce playing from the moment you started calling for him, haltime week 2!!!
January 5th, 2010 at 8:15 am
Cheese and rice, I thought I was banned for life. Been reading steadily though this season and here is my observation finally.
Keep Cable, he is the right coach at this time but he does need a O-cord. The only thing that is better at this time would be Gruden and that’s not happening.
But, we all know all has got to fire him, he has no choice because Al thinks he has to do something to put butts in the seats and really money is the only thing Al cares about now.
January 5th, 2010 at 8:17 am
It’s supposed to be my escape from reality, but lately it has been ruining my reality, lol.
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LMFAO!
January 5th, 2010 at 8:17 am
I would like to know why Nick Miller remained on the 53 although he was allegedly hurt?
January 5th, 2010 at 8:27 am
Vegas,
I think this year was really good for Russell. Can you imagine if Chaz, Miller, and Gallery were not hurt and we actaully won with Russell this year? Dude would be out of control.
There is no doubt in my mind that a healthy Raiders team wins on opening night. That would have been Chaz catching that TD at half. You see how many times Russell targeted Chaz last week? It wouldn’t have just been the Zack Miller show like Cable referenced.
I just think it would have been a lot different with Chaz and Miller in there. Russell just simply REFUSED to look DHBs way. Call it locking on to one WR, or not knowing the playbook if you want to, but it was where ever DHB is, I’m looking the other way.
Look at Grads first start against Cincy, lol DHB is targeted 10 times. Grads forced the ball to him and almost had 3 picks for it. It was a ridiculous game plan to me. That’s why I don’t really care about the off the field stuff so much. I know I should, but to me there is SO MUCH blame to go around that I just can’t focus on #2 alone.
January 5th, 2010 at 8:28 am
CaptainBlack Says:
January 5th, 2010 at 8:17 am
I would like to know why Nick Miller remained on the 53 although he was allegedly hurt?
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pssshhhht… it was the threat !!!
opposing teams would have to game plan for him in case the Raiders activated him…
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how was that?
January 5th, 2010 at 8:28 am
And everyone else knows it but can’t get past the hate for Russell.
That’s why everyone at a MINIMUM says that we need a new OC.
If we would have been a playoff team with another QB starting, why do we need a new OC, lol?
January 5th, 2010 at 8:29 am
Draft for the Oline this year and we win. Simple as that.
January 5th, 2010 at 8:30 am
Pete,
Routt Stock went down after this season. IMO
January 5th, 2010 at 8:31 am
Another decoy…shrewd
January 5th, 2010 at 8:33 am
Raider O Says:
January 5th, 2010 at 8:30 am
Pete,
Routt Stock went down after this season. IMO
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sorry… i disagree… i think he had a much better year than last year…
January 5th, 2010 at 8:35 am
when you are 29th vs. the run and 26th in total defense,a whole line of Shells and Upshaws aint gonna hep ya!
Other teams simply score and run the ball and run out the clock
We must go DEFENSE,imo
January 5th, 2010 at 8:35 am
Jhill,
You definately can’t focus on #2 alone. You can put Peyton Manning on this team, and without stopping the run, things would still be pretty tough.
I do think a QB can raise everyone’s play around him. Not all of them, and not all the time. But a leader can get guys to play above their level at times, and in all sports. Al is a moron, chemistry is very important in the modern age of sports.
DHB was a disaster, plain and simple. I have higher hopes for him than Russell and maybe even Darren, but that isn’t saying a whole lot.
The team just had a little more pep when Bruce played and it was so noticeable he pulled me in. Even though there wasn’t that many more points scored, there was more and the offenses seemed to be getting better. For once it seemed like we were actually building on something.
I swear if Al dumps Cable and talks up Jamarcus for the next minion Coach, I am going KoolKell. Cut and pasting, blaming Al for EVERYTHING. It will be my last straw.
January 5th, 2010 at 8:43 am
Fire Cable!!
Hire Harbaugh, Fassel, or Del Rio!
Cut Warren, TK, Euk (1.5 mil to play STs only), Eugene, Walker, Green, Cooper, and Fargas!!! That will free some money to sign Seymour and other FAs.
Move Seymour inside!!!
Draft:
1-ILB R McClain
2- DE Carlos Dunlap
3- DT Mike Neal if Available, or DT Vince Oghobaase
3- RT Sam Young or Kyle Calloway
4- CB Syd Thopmson if available or CB/ KR Leroy Vann.
January 5th, 2010 at 8:43 am
Wishing ill will on someone is bad form, but….
when I heard that Carole and Mark made the trip to Cleveland minus AD, I hoped they would find time to discuss having Al declared incompetent and removed from 1220 Harbor Bay Parkway, thus saving the family fortune from further destruction.
Not entirely unrealistic.
GO RIERS!
January 5th, 2010 at 8:44 am
Vegas,
I was never under the dellusion that Russell was this great QB that Davis pumped up. This leader of men thing and all that? Never expected it. So what he was drafted #1 overall? I didn’t want him, but it is what it is.
I expect Cable or any other coach to recognize the teams stregnths and weaknesses and game plan accordingly. Davis meddles with the defense, not the offense. When did Cable and company decide that this offense was better off throwing the hell out of the ball? The guy Davis compares Russell to never did that. Elway had a running game first and foremost when he was successful.
With Russell at QB, we should have been a team that runs the ball 40 times a game and passed off of PA. Screens, short dump offs and the likes. Win or lose, that should have been our identity. I realize that our D was pretty shaky in games like NY and we were down a quick 14 pts before we got off the bus, but still, our identity should be that of a running team. Just like Cincy pounds Benson 30 times a game with the great Carson Palmer and his crew of WRs.
January 5th, 2010 at 8:44 am
another thing with Grads is time of possession….when he played we won that battle too,moving those chains…..If we can stop the run,plus Grads coming into his own,well we be very tough just like that =)
January 5th, 2010 at 8:48 am
When your offense ranks 31st, and the HC thinks he’s doing a helluva job its time to cut your losses and bring in someone who at the minimum understands that being 31st sucks!
January 5th, 2010 at 8:48 am
Pete,
I didn’t watch the last few games, but at the beg of the season he couldn’t cover, did he improve, or are you talking about him playing outside vs the slot?
January 5th, 2010 at 8:51 am
Tough to argue with #239.
Cable’s lack of accountability might have been worse than Jamarcus’!!
January 5th, 2010 at 8:51 am
LMAO @ 239
January 5th, 2010 at 8:51 am
Here’s the vid of Schilens interview
http://www.sbreport.net/raider_news/008/2618.html
You think he wants Jamucus throwing him the ball.
January 5th, 2010 at 8:52 am
Routt had his moments on the outside, but he is awful in the slot and doesn’t have very good “ball skills”.
Plus all the penalties and the headbutt?? He has to be upgraded.
January 5th, 2010 at 8:53 am
jhill Says:
January 5th, 2010 at 8:44 am
Vegas,
I was never under the dellusion that Russell was this great QB that Davis pumped up. This leader of men thing and all that? Never expected it. So what he was drafted #1 overall? I didn’t want him, but it is what it is.
I expect Cable or any other coach to recognize the teams stregnths and weaknesses and game plan accordingly. Davis meddles with the defense, not the offense. When did Cable and company decide that this offense was better off throwing the hell out of the ball? The guy Davis compares Russell to never did that. Elway had a running game first and foremost when he was successful.
With Russell at QB, we should have been a team that runs the ball 40 times a game and passed off of PA. Screens, short dump offs and the likes. Win or lose, that should have been our identity. I realize that our D was pretty shaky in games like NY and we were down a quick 14 pts before we got off the bus, but still, our identity should be that of a running team. Just like Cincy pounds Benson 30 times a game with the great Carson Palmer and his crew of WRs.
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100% !!!
January 5th, 2010 at 8:56 am
I liked how Routt played in the 07 season when Washington went to the bench. He has size and speed, and I think he was a track star at HS and College.
January 5th, 2010 at 8:57 am
Raider O Says:
January 5th, 2010 at 8:48 am
Pete,
I didn’t watch the last few games, but at the beg of the season he couldn’t cover, did he improve, or are you talking about him playing outside vs the slot?
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outside… i’m not saying he is in any way special…
i’m just saying his stock went up…
he’s a free agent now… he will do better than if he were a free agent a year ago…
January 5th, 2010 at 9:01 am
Remember Guys, Routt, Kirk, and TH will NOT be FAs if there is no Cap!!!
January 5th, 2010 at 9:03 am
#245 hit it bang on… It seemed to make sense throwing the majority of the time in the preseason to try to get fat ass some experience but the regular season to keep firing it up with the turnover machine at QB and 3 good RB’s?????????????????
January 5th, 2010 at 9:07 am
Morning Nation. SO is Nick Miller ready this weekend?
LMAO
January 5th, 2010 at 9:07 am
We should have run the ball more, but it’s not like we were throwing the ball a ton. Did Russell ever even attempt 30 passes in a game? Even with all that losing and playing from behind, I think he usually threw 18-24 passes a game. I will go get some stats.
But the gameplan in the Eagles game was rarely seen again, and we had Fargas that game. Where were those dumpoffs to Gary Russell all year?
January 5th, 2010 at 9:13 am
Only 6 teams threw less passes a game than us and 10 teams ran fewer running plays than us.
Tough to gauge those stats because our offense was so awful. But definately should have been one of the bottom 1 or 2 in passing attempts a game. The Bengals threw less passes than us this year. WOW, never would have thought that.
January 5th, 2010 at 9:17 am
Jamarcus threw 30 passes opening night, and 33 in the Houston game.
He completed 12 (LOL) each game. Way too many passes, especially the Chargers game.
January 5th, 2010 at 9:19 am
Raider O Says:
January 5th, 2010 at 9:01 am
Remember Guys, Routt, Kirk, and TH will NOT be FAs if there is no Cap!!!
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Restricted FA’s right? The Raiders get the right to match the offer, but they still can leave and get another deal elsewhere.
I didn’t think Howard was on the list though.
January 5th, 2010 at 9:21 am
Well like you stated B4 Vegas,Bengals have C.Benson to run wild =)
January 5th, 2010 at 9:22 am
Vegas,
Restricted is for guys like Seymour, Bruce, Jano. Players we drafted can’t become FAs untill they played 6 years for the team.
January 5th, 2010 at 9:22 am
well, we missed out on a few players who could have competed here this offseason…
Dexter Jackson, WR (Car)
Terrance Taylor, DT (Det)
Blake Schlueter, C (Atl)
but we got WR Shaun Bodiford, woohoo!
January 5th, 2010 at 9:26 am
Let Kirk go…word in Chitown is Bears will listen to Lance Briggs offers. Howard will only improve with a real MLB next to him.
Also, do whatever it takes to get Rathman back in the fold. Make him asst. head coach or OC even. Tollner/Hackett and our young WRs are sufficient to continue growing the passing game once the walrus hits the street (BSJ prays on bended knee).
January 5th, 2010 at 9:27 am
Vegas,
We can also use multiple franchise tags.
January 5th, 2010 at 9:28 am
O,
I think you are right O, different rules for the teams that drafted the players. These players are going to want a new deal, this uncapped year is not good in this economy.
2011 lockout looks likely. They will get something done, but I wouldn’t be suprised if it delays camps or shortens the season or something like the last strike did.
January 5th, 2010 at 9:28 am
Anybody want:
Jim Zorn
Dick Jauron
Perry Fewell
Bobby April
Bill Sheridan
???
not as HC, but on the staff in some capacity.
January 5th, 2010 at 9:29 am
We’re thin at the CB position and Routt’s a free agent. Should we resign him? I say we let him go if they plan on using him at the nickel. Would like to see him more on the outside. I think he did a farely decent job when he wasn’t in the slot.
January 5th, 2010 at 9:30 am
I think it would be good if they shorten the season 4 or 5 games, this way we wont have our 8th consecutive 10+ loss season. team of the decades baby!
January 5th, 2010 at 9:32 am
lol
January 5th, 2010 at 9:33 am
I’ll take Bobby April. He has never had 2 kickers like we have.
January 5th, 2010 at 9:34 am
Routt must play in 40% of the defensive snaps, yet he must be our most penalized defensive player. He must have some kind of plays per penalty record. Get him and Cornell Green outtahere!
January 5th, 2010 at 9:34 am
do whatever it takes to get Rathman back in the fold. Make him asst. head coach or OC even.
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I agree. Kelly Skipper & Sanjay Lal can both leave as far as i’m concerned. Randy Hanson also must go if Cable stays.
Rathman for RB coach/Asst HC or name him Off. Coordinator!
keep Tollner, Hackett & Marshall though. gotta have some grumpy old men to whip these punk kids into shape
January 5th, 2010 at 9:36 am
I would worry about Rathman as OC. Seems like the type of guy who would love Justin Fargas.
January 5th, 2010 at 9:36 am
Hire a GM first….
If not go get Martz as your OCO…
Martz would know what to do with DMAC MBUSH….
Murphy is BADASS, and should be starting, He is the best WR on the raiders period…
January 5th, 2010 at 9:36 am
Vegas,
Roger Goodell will not allow anything to stop or even slow down this huge business. He doesn’t always have Football’s best interest in mind, but be cares a lot about profits. That’s just my opinion.
January 5th, 2010 at 9:37 am
Martz as HC….
January 5th, 2010 at 9:38 am
Cable should be demoted to janitor…
January 5th, 2010 at 9:39 am
forget about Routt, Bowie, Eugene & Holland.
I’ll take Mike McKenzie, Chris McAlister, Jerome Boyd (ST only) & Rashad Baker over those clowns.
January 5th, 2010 at 9:41 am
I would worry about Rathman as OC. Seems like the type of guy who would love Justin Fargas.
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Rathman convinced big Al to draft McFadden, remember?
I can see what you mean though, Rathman being a hard nosed blue-collar guy & Fargas being a crash test dummy with all heart & no skill
January 5th, 2010 at 9:41 am
If we are making wishlists for the HC, I’d love some crazy neurotic dude ala Singleterry showing the troops his fruits or Mike Gundy going “Im a man, Im forty…” I think the loosing would go down easier with that kind of a side show…
January 5th, 2010 at 9:41 am
what are teams doing this year, they hire a GM first…
Then they go get the coach. what are the raiders doing???????
January 5th, 2010 at 9:41 am
false start # 74 offense. 5 yard penalty repeat 1st down
January 5th, 2010 at 9:43 am
Cleveland, buffalo, and washington all hired new GM’s before they hired coaches. Lets see how it turns out for them……
what GM’s are the raiders talking with???
Oh I forgot we allready have a GM…Nevermind….
January 5th, 2010 at 9:44 am
Rcokstar,
And I am sure Rathman wouldn’t have liked Bush’s refusal to play a little FB.
January 5th, 2010 at 9:44 am
Martz would know what to do with DMAC MBUSH….
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Martz got ran out of St Louis & San Fran because of Steven Jackson & Frank Gore!
the best offensive player on each team got very little touches while he dialed up a pass happy offense with garbage at QB & WR …
our 3 headed monster would be of no use with Martz at the helm unless you’re looking for DMC to be more of a receiving option threat ala Reggie Bush. Bush would be worthless, might as well trade him if Martz is the guy.
January 5th, 2010 at 9:46 am
Harbaugh for HC
Weiss for OC
Keep Marshall
fire special teams coach, WR’s coach, and LB’s coach
January 5th, 2010 at 9:48 am
I don’t think Rathman would settle for Lawton, G. Russell or Reece at FB!
what would this team have looked like with Garcia & Neal on the 53 man roster and Walker given a shot to play WR (not in the doghouse) ???
it’s clear we had ZERO vet leadership on offense
January 5th, 2010 at 9:50 am
Then draft Clausen if he’s available in later rounds. (He just had surgery)
January 5th, 2010 at 9:51 am
With Russell starting, the Raiders ranked 31st in the NFL in total offense, passing offense and scoring offense. With Gradkowski or Frye starting, they ranked 18th in passing, 19th in total offense and 27th in scoring, according to Stats LLC.
They averaged exactly 100 more yards a game with a 50 percent scoring increase.
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Russell – restructure or pack your bags!!
January 5th, 2010 at 9:51 am
new englandraider Says:
January 5th, 2010 at 9:41 am
false start # 74 offense. 5 yard penalty repeat 1st down
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You mean repeat 3rd down.
January 5th, 2010 at 9:51 am
Don Martindale made Elvis Dumervil (a converted DE) the best pass rushing OLB in football in year 1…
wonder why Martindale did such a great job under Mike Nolan and not Rob Ryan?
January 5th, 2010 at 9:52 am
My prediction……
If Cable is fired, Uncle Al welcomes Fassell w/ open arms
January 5th, 2010 at 9:53 am
our 3 headed monster would be of no use with Martz at the helm unless you’re looking for DMC to be more of a receiving option threat ala Reggie Bush. Bush would be worthless, might as well trade him if Martz is the guy.
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“3 headed monster” was of no use to cable as well….
January 5th, 2010 at 9:54 am
Martz got ran out of St Louis & San Fran because of Steven Jackson & Frank Gore!
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Wrong…. Martz got ran out of town becuase of singletary…. rember the comment cant coach with em, cant play with em….that was a direct indictment against martz….
January 5th, 2010 at 9:54 am
NFL replay is showing the Raiders – Ravens game at 5pm.
January 5th, 2010 at 9:54 am
If Cable is fired, who’s stupid enough to take this job knowing that Davis will expect him to turn garbage into gold with Russell?
January 5th, 2010 at 9:56 am
the best offensive player on each team got very little touches while he dialed up a pass happy offense with garbage at QB & WR …
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SF
Wrong again, QB Smith got hurt…oline was garbage
Sigeltary and martz clashed…
St louis, didnt have the personnel… were on the decline…
January 5th, 2010 at 9:56 am
false start # 74 offense 5 yard penalty repeat 3rd down
January 5th, 2010 at 9:56 am
Let Fargas play FB…he already runs like one. He might need one of those humongous Kelso helmets though.
http://a.espncdn.com/photo/2009/0826/pg2_g_kelso_600.jpg
January 5th, 2010 at 9:58 am
Martz will wind up somewhere possible buffalo, and out coach cable, and what ever oco you couple him with….money on it…..
January 5th, 2010 at 9:59 am
Hire a GM first and foremost…….
January 5th, 2010 at 9:59 am
We need to seriously sign at LEAST ONE of these free agents.
http://www.footballsfuture.com/2010/fa/ol.html
January 5th, 2010 at 9:59 am
If you dont hire a GM best the team will be is 5-11…
January 5th, 2010 at 10:00 am
now we all agree hi eugene was beyotch slapped to the ground. does the “head slap” rule apply there. got a strange feeling had that been one of our rb’s some sort of penalty would’ve been called. lmfaoooooo
January 5th, 2010 at 10:00 am
Who’s left to be hired as a GM??????
January 5th, 2010 at 10:01 am
ineligible receiver down field #66 offense 5 yard penalty repeat………. 2nd down?????
January 5th, 2010 at 10:01 am
Whos left to be hired as head coach or oco, or players for that matter???
January 5th, 2010 at 10:02 am
we probably get flagged for unsportsmanlike conduct
January 5th, 2010 at 10:03 am
Are you asking me if only 33 GM’s exist???
January 5th, 2010 at 10:03 am
Harbaugh is there, but Al won’t show him the $$$$$$$$.
January 5th, 2010 at 10:03 am
who’s best suited?
January 5th, 2010 at 10:03 am
You could hire a GM that just got fired and we would fare better than what we have today….
January 5th, 2010 at 10:04 am
Anybody is best suited than what we have….
January 5th, 2010 at 10:04 am
Matt Millen vs Ol Al…your pick
January 5th, 2010 at 10:04 am
I would prefer to see the org structured and ran like a pro football franchise. Not a mafia style clique…
January 5th, 2010 at 10:04 am
dmac, what are you doing here? you should be getting ready for your offseason workouts. can i get a rebate on ur 3 different jerseys
January 5th, 2010 at 10:05 am
True that.
January 5th, 2010 at 10:05 am
OK, matt millen, and Mr. davis would be a tie….
so in that case i would keep Mr. Davis….
January 5th, 2010 at 10:07 am
I’m jogging hills and blogging on my cell phone.
January 5th, 2010 at 10:07 am
Matt millen is where he belongs…in the booth….
Clearly in over his head as a GM…..same as Mr. Davis.
But until we make a change at the top we are looking at 8, 9 10 seasons of futility…..
January 5th, 2010 at 10:08 am
DMAC, what do you think about BRL???
January 5th, 2010 at 10:09 am
356 rush attempts this season by Fargas, McFadden & Bush.
483 pass attempts this season by Russell, Gradkowski & Frye.
I think a lot of the 125+ more pass attempts were due to these stats …
26th in total defense and 29th in run defense.
The Raiders were outscored by 182 points in 16 games, meaning they on average were outscored by 11.4 points per game.
January 5th, 2010 at 10:09 am
At least you didn’t purchase Russell jerseys. My jersey still has some value though.
January 5th, 2010 at 10:10 am
So DMAC, you dont like BRL???
January 5th, 2010 at 10:11 am
Thec07 Says:
January 5th, 2010 at 10:04 am
I would prefer to see the org structured and ran like a pro football franchise. Not a mafia style clique…
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If it was a mafia style clique then Shanahan, Kiffin, Callahan and Lombardi would be living in Hoffa-town.
January 5th, 2010 at 10:11 am
BRL????
January 5th, 2010 at 10:13 am
r8dr4lfe21 Says:
January 5th, 2010 at 7:05 am
What freakin team has a fullback returning kickoff’s.
Cable is done and take half the O-Line with him, this man says Satele will bea good C for continuity WTF!.
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You can add Satele to the list of o-line busts Cable has brought in (Harris, Barnes, Pears). So what if the guy played a little better than Morris? WE STILL NEED A CENTER AND CABLE IS GOING TO STICK WITH SATELE SO WE WILL STILL NOT BE ABLE TO RUN THE BALL IF CABLE IS RETAINED!!!!!! FIRE CABLE NOW!!!!
January 5th, 2010 at 10:13 am
Black Ryan Leaf…… AKA Jamarshmellow
January 5th, 2010 at 10:15 am
Possible GM
Reggie McKenzie Green Bay Packers, co-director of football operations
January 5th, 2010 at 10:15 am
Gotta love the fullback returning kickoffs. That comes a close second the Janikowski’s fake field goal on 4th and 15…lol, Cable must be stoned when he’s working on special teams.
January 5th, 2010 at 10:19 am
Martz will wind up somewhere possible buffalo, and out coach cable, and what ever oco you couple him with….money on it…..
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Thec: I don’t understand your love affair with Mike Martz. Dude wasn’t good enough for the Rams, Lions or 49ers and he still isn’t. even Al interviewed him and passed. 49ers chose Singletary over him when they canned Nolan. Singletary wanted a run-first, tough defense football team, which is everything Martz isn’t.
Martz was out of football this year, even as a OC and he applied for jobs. Wasn’t like he had the luxury of pick & choose like Shanahan or Cowher
January 5th, 2010 at 10:19 am
HE HAS GOT TO GO NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
January 5th, 2010 at 10:20 am
Included was Randy Hanson and Jawgate, an ESPN story alleging he had a history of violence toward women, an underperforming multi-million-dollar quarterback and so many one-sided losses the Raiders finished with the second biggest negative point differential in franchise history.
The Raiders were outscored by 182 points in 16 games, meaning they on average were outscored by 11.4 points per game. The 1961 pre-Al Davis Raiders were outscored by 15.8 points per game, finishing 2-12.
The Raiders were 31st in scoring (scoring less than 200 points for the second time in franchise history), 31st in offense, 23rd in scoring defense, 26th in total defense and 29th in run defense.
None of which matters a whit to Cable, who looks at the last seven games of the season and sees something special in the offing.
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You really want continuity of THIS? FIRE CABLE NOW!
January 5th, 2010 at 10:24 am
Our offense ranks 31st. Give somebody else a shot at running the O. Martz? Yeah anything’s better than running DMAC between the tackles 100 times.
January 5th, 2010 at 10:28 am
Demote Cable to Oline coach and body guard for AD.
If he is canned, his replacement better have one helluva resume cause the troops wont want to go through another turnover with an unknown coach.
January 5th, 2010 at 10:32 am
thee ‘ol jog-n-blog by Dmac!
January 5th, 2010 at 10:37 am
lol dmac, i got a confession… when we drafted jruss, i bought the black & white jersey 4 me and the black 4 my dad. needless to say those jerseys haven’t seen the light of day in quite some time. i do wear 1 of my 3 dmac jerseys. i got the afl jersey, that bad boy is sweet
January 5th, 2010 at 10:37 am
Draft Jimmy Clausen with the 1st Pick!!!
January 5th, 2010 at 10:38 am
yo dakota. wassup bro. no pau 2nite. ron ron returns. walton later on in the week
January 5th, 2010 at 10:38 am
Harbaugh for HC
Weis for OC
Fix the right side of the line
Pick up a true MLB
move Seymor to DT
draft Clausen if he’s available in the later rounds
January 5th, 2010 at 10:39 am
Anyone shave Russells head yet?
January 5th, 2010 at 10:39 am
Draft Jimmy Clausen with the 1st Pick!!!
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I’d rather grab Tebow in the 4th round and have an open competition …
Russell/Tebow/Gradkowski/Frye/Southwick
I’d like to BUILD THE LINES in this draft!!!
January 5th, 2010 at 10:40 am
dmac one more hint…. buy urself some longer spikes. oakland is below sea level. the field is generally slick. actually now that i think of it, u didnt slip at all the last two home games. damn tom cable is right. we are turning the corner
January 5th, 2010 at 10:40 am
who is carl weathers anyway???? apollo creed right????
January 5th, 2010 at 10:40 am
Anyone shave Russells head yet?
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Anyone shave his contract yet ???
January 5th, 2010 at 10:41 am
I have to admit also. At first I felt like a sucker for wearing my Huff jersey to games a few years ago, but this season it felt pretty good.
January 5th, 2010 at 10:42 am
Huff is a player!
don’t forget. you all heard it hear first …
January 5th, 2010 at 10:43 am
here (not hear)
January 5th, 2010 at 10:43 am
“Yeah, that’s because I got rid of those schitty Nikes, and went bakc to the ol’ A D I D A S.
January 5th, 2010 at 10:44 am
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January 5th, 2010 at 10:44 am
no huff. wasted $$ on a Jerry Porter authentic, now thats trash. got charles woodson jerseys up the Azz. wait for those to be considered throw backs. my favs are my 2 bo jackson jerseys. u guys see the bo jackson hilite on youtube? called running down a dream. take a look
January 5th, 2010 at 10:44 am
Saints DE Charles Grant placed on IR today.
ouch. thats gotta hurt!
January 5th, 2010 at 10:45 am
mcgahee on the jim rome show as we type
January 5th, 2010 at 10:46 am
BOHICA…
Bend
Over
Here
It
Comes
Again
January 5th, 2010 at 10:46 am
Whats he saying NE?
January 5th, 2010 at 10:46 am
Saints aren’t going anywhere. Look out for those Packers!
January 5th, 2010 at 10:46 am
Martz was out of football this year, even as a OC and he applied for jobs. Wasn’t like he had the luxury of pick & choose like Shanahan or Cowher
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Martz, is a good offensive mind would be a hhuge step up from cable. Hire him as a OCO at a minimum…
Neither of which would want to coach in oakland, because of the toxic situation, and lack of a true GM… So it really doesnt matter Who we hire
January 5th, 2010 at 10:48 am
I wouldnt mind Martz. Maybe he can turn me into the next Marshall Faulk.
January 5th, 2010 at 10:48 am
I hope Willis & Ray run all over the Patsies and the Ravens D crushes Tom Brady. It’d also be nice to see Randy Moss held in check and accused of quitting again. that would be hilarious!
January 5th, 2010 at 10:49 am
he’s off now. giving credit to oher for opening up holes for him. imagine that? rome called it the best stiff arm ever. more like a biznatch slap i thought
January 5th, 2010 at 10:49 am
new englandraider Says:
January 5th, 2010 at 10:40 am
who is carl weathers anyway???? apollo creed right????
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Right. I also played LB for the Raiders in the 70’s!!
January 5th, 2010 at 10:50 am
don’t think martz will even be considered seeing what he did the last time.
January 5th, 2010 at 10:50 am
i thought ivan drago killed you????????
January 5th, 2010 at 10:51 am
if he dies, he dies
January 5th, 2010 at 10:51 am
Rome is a punk.
January 5th, 2010 at 10:52 am
http://www.sbreport.net/raider_news/008/2607.html
good analysis of the ravens game…
January 5th, 2010 at 10:52 am
hire Reggie Mckenzie as GM…
Retire Mr. Davis
then get a real HCO, DCO, OCO…..
Enough of the madness….
January 5th, 2010 at 10:52 am
i aked yesterday, will ask again. im only 28 so…… old school raider fans, which player had the worst rookie season cliff branch or dhb? read in here that branch could not catch his 1st 3 seasons
January 5th, 2010 at 10:54 am
I wouldnt mind Martz. Maybe he can turn me into the next Marshall Faulk.
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Faulk was already a stud in Indy & St Louis from 1994-1999 before Martz took over the Rams in 2000.
Vermeil won that ‘99 Super Bowl. remember?
Martz is trash…
January 5th, 2010 at 10:54 am
James Jett couldn’t catch but DHB makes him look like Tim Brown.
January 5th, 2010 at 10:54 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
January 5th, 2010 at 10:39 am
I’d rather grab Tebow in the 4th round and have an open competition …
Russell/Tebow/Gradkowski/Frye/Southwick
I’d like to BUILD THE LINES in this draft!!!
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What about my OTHER boy JP Losman!?!
January 5th, 2010 at 10:55 am
I’ve laughed till it hurt a few times listening to his show… but I still think he’s a punk.
January 5th, 2010 at 10:56 am
so i take it dhb is worse than branch was????? tebow if available will be our 2nd 3rd round pick
January 5th, 2010 at 10:56 am
new englandraider Says:
January 5th, 2010 at 10:52 am
i aked yesterday, will ask again. im only 28 so…… old school raider fans, which player had the worst rookie season cliff branch or dhb? read in here that branch could not catch his 1st 3 seasons
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diffrent era… First rd picks you give big money to need to come in producing out of the gates…..
22 WR’s had better stats than DHB, of those 22 5 were RB’s….
January 5th, 2010 at 10:56 am
I stopped listening when he began doing live ads before the commercials.
January 5th, 2010 at 10:57 am
What about my OTHER boy JP Losman!?!
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1 pass attempt. incomplete
sorry, he’s out!
LOL. JaBeefy for 4000 yards and 30+ TD’s this year
January 5th, 2010 at 10:57 am
there is also some funny rome clips on youtube. chuck e cheese, pettermint patty, miss teen south carolina, bert and ernie. bums stealing bread from a duck. check it out
January 5th, 2010 at 10:58 am
so are you saying Martz had nothing to do with the SB win, or the offense….
January 5th, 2010 at 10:58 am
time to get some work done. later fellas!
January 5th, 2010 at 10:59 am
22 rookie WR’s and rookie RB’s had better stats thatn the first WR taken overall… sad, sad, sad.
The saddest part is everyone knew it was a horrible pick!
January 5th, 2010 at 10:59 am
What happened to Oren O’Neal anyway? Did he miss Rathman or was his knee so far gone he lost his skills?
January 5th, 2010 at 11:00 am
thec, i totally understand different eras… however im just curious. i want the guy to succeed. just as every other player that takes the field. weird how the draft works out. chaz in round 7 dhb pick #7. probably makes more $$ than chaz, jlh, and murphy combined
January 5th, 2010 at 11:00 am
LTR Rockstar, have a good day Man……
January 5th, 2010 at 11:01 am
Don’t sleep on JP, especially if Southwick coaches him up like he did Gradkowski. LOL.
January 5th, 2010 at 11:02 am
new englandraider Says:
January 5th, 2010 at 11:00 am
thec, i totally understand different eras… however im just curious. i want the guy to succeed. just as every other player that takes the field. weird how the draft works out. chaz in round 7 dhb pick #7. probably makes more $$ than chaz, jlh, and murphy combined
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DMAC, DHB, BRL…All were bad picks….
with DMAC being the most salvageble…
Which is pick is worse, BRL, or DHB???
January 5th, 2010 at 11:03 am
Martz is a decent OC when his QB has a brain and talent…I don’t know that any current Raider QBs qualify.
I would rather keep Cable as HC than have Martz as HC…you think we pass too much now…whoa!
January 5th, 2010 at 11:03 am
i agree dmac, luke lawton is the worst fb i’ve ever seen. roid and all he just couldnt get it done. he did have about 5-8 2yrd receptions this year. and probably 5 drops
January 5th, 2010 at 11:05 am
damn thats a tough one…. russell has had a couple decent games. dhb blocks well. i dunno most would probably say russell at this point. certainly dhb will probably be given 3 more yrs to see if he can learn to catch. thats a tough question bro
January 5th, 2010 at 11:08 am
If it were up to me, i would cut BRL, and DHB….
but if i had to keep one it would be DHB…..
No way he or ANY other WR starts before murphy….
January 5th, 2010 at 11:08 am
Shaunessey is going to be a beast. Too bad he didn’t see the field too much.
January 5th, 2010 at 11:09 am
I would take Martz, over cable everyday of the year….
CABLE just figured out this week that he shouldnt be calling plays……Who Knew??????
January 5th, 2010 at 11:09 am
The Boise State HC Chris Petersen may be an interesting candidate?
January 5th, 2010 at 11:09 am
I didn’t see too many guys shed off blockers and make a tackle, like I saw from Shaunessey. GAMER.
January 5th, 2010 at 11:10 am
yeah dmac. wassup with shaunessy? dude had a sack and 2 tackles for loss in 1st half of cleveland game and hardly saw the field in 2nd half. thats the type os stuff that drives me nuts
January 5th, 2010 at 11:11 am
Cable is a brain dead
BRL is a brain dead
DHB has numb hands
Mr. Davis……is a __________…
January 5th, 2010 at 11:12 am
guys have a good day, and if you havent invested in silver, you should consider it as a hedge against inflation….
LTR
January 5th, 2010 at 11:12 am
according to an article by Cam Inman in today’s Oakland Tribune – an article advocating the dumping of a certain dead weight QB – there were only two Raiders who would even talk with Russell by the end of the season. Louis Murphy and Gerard Warren.
January 5th, 2010 at 11:13 am
murphy certainly progressed nicely in the 2nd half. his drops were certainly down. i said it yesterday man, a HEALTHY chaz, and murphy with zmill, we could have an explosive offense if we clean up our dline and get avg qb play
January 5th, 2010 at 11:14 am
To all purchasers of the #2 Russell jersey. Fear Not! Your jersey will be worth it’s weight in gold as a collector’s item representing the ABSOLUTE BIGGEST NFL BUST EVER. Keep it in like new condition in the original package if possible.
Just think of it as the Edsel of the NFL football world. Every DOG has it’s moment of fame.
January 5th, 2010 at 11:14 am
oline sry
January 5th, 2010 at 11:16 am
so should i do the same with my dmac jerseys
January 5th, 2010 at 11:16 am
No not yet.
LMAO
January 5th, 2010 at 11:19 am
i like gerard warrens leadership qualities. i can see my nobody would talk to jruss. dude get pd better than 80% of team and does nothing to earn it. warren as a backup dt or 3rd down pass rusher. think i’d rather have warren than kelly. but lets see what kelly can do 2 yrs after major knee surgery
January 5th, 2010 at 11:24 am
DHB is worse since there were possibly 2 dozen WR’s better than him.
At least iwth Russell we didn’t pass up on anyone other than Brady Quinn.
January 5th, 2010 at 11:28 am
Although looking back on that draft the pick should have been Staley, or Calvin Johnson or Adrian Peterson. All positions of need and then let Walter start fresh in ‘07
January 5th, 2010 at 11:39 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
January 5th, 2010 at 10:57 am
What about my OTHER boy JP Losman!?!
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1 pass attempt. incomplete
sorry, he’s out!
LOL. JaBeefy for 4000 yards and 30+ TD’s this year
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you’re gonna buy Jacarcass a Madden football game???
January 5th, 2010 at 11:40 am
http://www.insidebayarea.com/raiders/ci_14122126
Let’s hope this builds some momentum.
January 5th, 2010 at 11:42 am
new englandraider Says:
January 5th, 2010 at 11:10 am
yeah dmac. wassup with shaunessy? dude had a sack and 2 tackles for loss in 1st half of cleveland game and hardly saw the field in 2nd half. thats the type os stuff that drives me nuts
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anyone who rises above mediocrity goes straight into Cable’s doghouse…
he does not want production…
he wants EFFORT…
dammit…
January 5th, 2010 at 11:45 am
new englandraider Says:
January 5th, 2010 at 11:19 am
“think i’d rather have warren than kelly. but lets see what kelly can do 2 yrs after major knee surgery”
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i think we’ve seen everything Kelly has to give…
uh…
that’s a bad thing…
January 5th, 2010 at 11:46 am
Carl Weathers Says:
January 5th, 2010 at 11:28 am
Although looking back on that draft the pick should have been Staley, or Calvin Johnson or Adrian Peterson. All positions of need and then let Walter start fresh in ‘07
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good call… i liked walter…
January 5th, 2010 at 11:50 am
i hear you pete. im not a tommy kelly fan at all. but lets be fair, dude had major knee surgery and they say it normally takes a couple yrs to fully recover
January 5th, 2010 at 11:52 am
kelly was in top 5 in tackles for a dlineman. didnt know that. he cant be getting paid as he did this year. just not worth it
January 5th, 2010 at 11:54 am
“Pirates function as a team. There were a lot of castes and classes in England at the time. But with pirates, it didn’t matter if you were black, white, rich or poor. The object was to get a treasure. If the captain did a bad job, you could just overthrow him. ” — Mike Leach
January 5th, 2010 at 11:54 am
well fellas take care gtg. later
January 5th, 2010 at 12:01 pm
# Thec07 Says:
January 5th, 2010 at 9:54 am
Martz got ran out of St Louis & San Fran because of Steven Jackson & Frank Gore!
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Wrong…. Martz got ran out of town becuase of singletary…. rember the comment cant coach with em, cant play with em….that was a direct indictment against martz….
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Amazing on how clueless the bunch here is.
‘CAN’T COACH WITH EM, CAN’T PLAY WITH EM, CAN’T WIN WITH EM..CAN’T DO IT” was in reference to VERNON DAVIS, you idiot. Davis had just been sent to the locker room.
Comments were about him having players on the team that did what was right for the team, and not their own personal agenda..THAT’S WHAT THAT WAS REFERRING TO.
Geez…clown city here.
January 5th, 2010 at 12:02 pm
Here are our presumed starting D line for next year (Seymour is a free agent) and their salaries…
Greg Ellis Defensive Lineman 3,350,000
Tommy Kelly Defensive Lineman 4,500,000
Gerard Warren Defensive Lineman 5,680,000
January 5th, 2010 at 12:06 pm
# RaiderRockstar Says:
January 5th, 2010 at 10:19 am
Martz will wind up somewhere possible buffalo, and out coach cable, and what ever oco you couple him with….money on it…..
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Thec: I don’t understand your love affair with Mike Martz. Dude wasn’t good enough for the Rams, Lions or 49ers and he still isn’t. even Al interviewed him and passed.
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Another clueless fool.
AL DIDN’T PASS, nitwit.
Martz interviewed with Al, and BEFORE MARTZ HAD GOTTEN TO THE AIRPORT, he had his agent contact Al and told him do not even bother drawing up an offer, that he wasn’t interested.
do you follow the Raiders?
do you read anything about them?
Martz has only commented on the above numerous times, including when he was signed as OC with the Niners, that he just felt it would not work with him and Al, and that he decided to withdraw his name….kind of what Saunders said…and what Whiz said.
You would know that..if you actually followed the team.
January 5th, 2010 at 12:12 pm
# DMAC Says:
January 5th, 2010 at 10:00 am
Who’s left to be hired as a GM??????
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What you mean to say is who’s left who would WANT the job as GM.
January 5th, 2010 at 12:14 pm
Mike Martz sucks, and has an ego too.
January 5th, 2010 at 12:14 pm
damn both kelly and warren need to restructure
January 5th, 2010 at 12:16 pm
#413 richo 100% accurate as to what happened with martz
January 5th, 2010 at 12:17 pm
NewEnglander-Branch and DHB were pretty much the same players as rookies.
Martz is garbage.the name to watch is Bill Billick for HC.
January 5th, 2010 at 12:18 pm
HC Al should consider: Harbaugh, Del Rio ( need to hire an OC for him), or Fassel.
January 5th, 2010 at 12:19 pm
ty lefty. so maybe there is hope for dhb. just don’t know dude has trouble getting open and catching
January 5th, 2010 at 12:21 pm
Lefty12 Says:
January 5th, 2010 at 12:17 pm
NewEnglander-Branch and DHB were pretty much the same players as rookies.
Martz is garbage.the name to watch is Bill Billick for HC.
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Not true. Branch did not start until year 4, when he made the Pro- Bowl.
January 5th, 2010 at 12:22 pm
bill billick? who the hell is he?
January 5th, 2010 at 12:23 pm
bill belliCHOKE and brian billicks love child?
January 5th, 2010 at 12:24 pm
KK-i didn’t mean they both started and you know that.i meant neither could catch-but you probably knew that too.
January 5th, 2010 at 12:24 pm
sorry-Brian Billick.
January 5th, 2010 at 12:24 pm
hey kool kell post our records for the last 10 seasons please
January 5th, 2010 at 12:25 pm
Branch was not foisted upon the Starting lineup until year 3, excuse me.
5-11 170lbs 4th round draft pick
January 5th, 2010 at 12:26 pm
New Englandraider Says:
January 5th, 2010 at 12:24 pm
hey kool kell post our records for the last 10 seasons please
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I surely will as soon as I think one of yous needs to brought back to reality.
January 5th, 2010 at 12:26 pm
Vegas Raider said:
“I swear if Al dumps Cable and talks up Jamarcus for the next minion Coach, I am going KoolKell. Cut and pasting, blaming Al for EVERYTHING. It will be my last straw.”
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Your last straw? I doubt it. If you still have faith in Al Davis now, after the past 7 years, you’ll never turn back. You’re just trying to sound pragmatic. Anybody who still has faith in Al Davis at this day and time is a full fledged kool aid drinker, and a little bit crazy, no matter how normal, or even rich, they pretend to be. You can mock Kell’s cutting and pasting all you will. Truth is, you’re yet to reach his level of enlightenment.
January 5th, 2010 at 12:28 pm
instead of bickering when they cracked the line up, how about any similarities or differences that u guys may have seen
January 5th, 2010 at 12:29 pm
since KKis trying to be a total a$$hole about the whole thing i’ll put it like this-when Branch came to the Raiders he had problems catching the ball just as DHB did this past year.however,Branch wasn’t rushed into a starting role as a rookie like DHB was to prove he was a worthy pick by the stubborn owner.
January 5th, 2010 at 12:30 pm
on of yous? um… no….. you can be 1 or 1 million. still you people. lol. had to do it kell. now please, i 4get what season we were 2-14. post the records kell. do it man
January 5th, 2010 at 12:30 pm
lol. im correcting kells use of “yous” and cant spell one. hypocrite i am
January 5th, 2010 at 12:31 pm
JB Says:
January 5th, 2010 at 11:14 am
To all purchasers of the #2 Russell jersey. Fear Not! Your jersey will be worth it’s weight in gold as a collector’s item representing the ABSOLUTE BIGGEST NFL BUST EVER. Keep it in like new condition in the original package if possible.
Just think of it as the Edsel of the NFL football world. Every DOG has it’s moment of fame.
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You can also take the number off, flip it around and upside down…then you’ll have number 5.
Haven’t figured out a way to turn Russell into Gradkowski yet…
January 5th, 2010 at 12:31 pm
Lefty, do you have anyone a little more modern to compare DHB to? Or just Cliff Branch?
January 5th, 2010 at 12:32 pm
Look, because Jerry Rice dropped a few balls his rookie year, let’s not jump to large conclusions about DHB, ok?
January 5th, 2010 at 12:32 pm
cmon kell i’ll help u buddy.
2009 = 5-11
2008 = 5-11
take it kell
January 5th, 2010 at 12:32 pm
Russell can look like Gradkowski if he wanted to. Just put a cast on.
January 5th, 2010 at 12:32 pm
DHB has to be the next Cliff Branch, Kell, because he drops balls. When you think dropped balls, you think of Cliff Branch…
January 5th, 2010 at 12:34 pm
madden raider, i brought up the branch vs dhb thing because of past post stating branch couldnt catch early in his career. didnt get to see branch, so i was wondering if there were similarities in the beginning of careers
January 5th, 2010 at 12:35 pm
“level of enlightment” LOL
Sounds like a religous thing.
Everyone has their limit, I am seeing mine straight ahead. He has a beer belly and a mohawk.
January 5th, 2010 at 12:35 pm
2007? kell???? you there? kell??????
January 5th, 2010 at 12:36 pm
Well, if Branch really dropped passes early in his career, then I guess there’s a similarity. But that means every single young receiver in the league who drops balls can be the next Cliff Branch, too. Then again, they can also be busts. The latter is much more likely. But there’s nothing wrong with resting on a long shot. I mean, the Raiders have been so good in recent years, we can afford to take some chances, can’t we?
January 5th, 2010 at 12:37 pm
Branch started 1 game until he took over in year 3.
DHB had the job handed to him immediately.
We didn’t see much of Branch until then.
But, Branch seemed waay faster, or quicker, or got to his top end faster. He left guys. I haven’t seen that from Bey.
January 5th, 2010 at 12:37 pm
# vegas raider Says:
January 5th, 2010 at 12:35 pm
Everyone has their limit, I am seeing mine straight ahead. He has a beer belly and a mohawk.
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So, you’re looking in the mirror?
January 5th, 2010 at 12:37 pm
i hear u mr. just looking for a little hope for dhb to look 4ward 2
January 5th, 2010 at 12:39 pm
hell yeah kell bey ran by almost 21 guys on one play. russell was picked and dhb ran passed the guy who intercepted the ball. dude showed some serious quicks. and a great deal of stupidity also
January 5th, 2010 at 12:39 pm
Aaaaaaahhhh, I’m sorry, New England Raider. I’ll stop picking on you, then. You’re just looking for hope…
January 5th, 2010 at 12:40 pm
chasing a guy down from behind and then running right by him. i guess he is a track star
January 5th, 2010 at 12:41 pm
damn mr picking on me?????????????? wow. now im hurt
January 5th, 2010 at 12:41 pm
Unfortunately in football there’s no points for running a guy down and tackling him. At some point, DHB has to learn to catch a football.
January 5th, 2010 at 12:42 pm
Oh, but of course, he COULD be the next Cliff Branch! LOL
January 5th, 2010 at 12:42 pm
I’m just looking for hope…
January 5th, 2010 at 12:43 pm
i think murphy is light yrs ahead of dhb. (obviously) dude was open a lot. he had a few drops early on… so think if it weren’t for the drops and the jruss 1 hoppers. dude probably get 50+ receptions, as many of the short hops would’ve sustained a few drives
January 5th, 2010 at 12:45 pm
well kell did say he never ran by anyone. had to give him an example of dhb running by people. even thought he did wrong by running by them
January 5th, 2010 at 12:45 pm
I’m going to give the benefit of the doubt to DHB and that he heard the whistle blowing (it was) and he thought it would be a good moment to show off his wheels.
January 5th, 2010 at 12:46 pm
hey mr thats all we can do is hope i guess. maybe pray also.
January 5th, 2010 at 12:47 pm
i forget he picked off the pass but im sure murphy was hot on the guys heels, and dhb blew right by both of them. lmfao
January 5th, 2010 at 12:48 pm
4get who picked off the pass. damn get all toungue tied when im poke smot
January 5th, 2010 at 12:49 pm
Hope and pray? It’s not that serious, NE Raider. You can laugh, too, and make fun of people who still believe in Al Davis.
January 5th, 2010 at 12:49 pm
tongue
see what i mean? guess thats why some people call it dope…. and not smart
January 5th, 2010 at 12:50 pm
NewEnglandraider,
It was in the Giants game when Fargas fumbled but they said they blew the whistle before the fumble. Some DB grabbed and DHB started chasing him, and Murphy, but the whistle was blowing and DHB just ran past him, like it was a race or something.
January 5th, 2010 at 12:50 pm
i’d rather pick on kell cuz he is a good sport. post the damn records kell. everyone is waiting. i’ll be back later probably i hope to know how we fared in the years from 2003-2007. please
January 5th, 2010 at 12:51 pm
yeah, thats right vegas. good memory. fargas lucked out a couple times with fumbles after the whistle but b4 he was down
January 5th, 2010 at 12:52 pm
12:38 [Comment From vegas raider: ]
Jerry, Cable and the Raiders seemed to abruptly make a 180 turn on Jamarcus halfway through the season. They way Cable spoke of Russell switched from positive to negative, seemingly overnight. With Bruce having been given more reps during the bye week before the KC game, and replacing Russell at halftime even though Russell had, by his standards, a pretty good half, due you think this was caused by any “big event” that really caused the sudden change of heart, or was it more of a gradual thing?
Tuesday January 5, 2010 12:38 vegas raider
12:39 jerrymac: That’s a great question, and I’ve hard a few rumors that wouldn’t be responsible to pass along, but I will say that my understanding is that Davis got an idea of just how little Russell was preparing and taking things seriously and was more than receptive to Cable’s wish to bench him.
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Hear that ladies, “Great Question” LOL
January 5th, 2010 at 12:52 pm
good call vegas. i stand corrected. thank you
January 5th, 2010 at 12:53 pm
vegas raider Says:
January 5th, 2010 at 12:50 pm
NewEnglandraider,
It was in the Giants game when Fargas fumbled but they said they blew the whistle before the fumble. Some DB grabbed and DHB started chasing him, and Murphy, but the whistle was blowing and DHB just ran past him, like it was a race or something.
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Lol, I missed that one…wish I could see it though…sounds too funny.
January 5th, 2010 at 12:53 pm
Raider Nation Offseason is in full swing I see.
Looks a lot like last year, and the year before that, and the year before that, and the year…
Will the coach get fired? Who will be the next coach? Who will be the QB? Who will get drafted?
Every year its the same questions. Every year the answers lead to the same outcome… LOSING!
Al Davis must go!
January 5th, 2010 at 12:56 pm
He didn’t really run past him, but alongside of the Giants defender kind of hot-dogging the fact he was faster than him.
Leave it to DHB to hot-dog it when he is chasing a defender 70 yards from the line of scrimmage.
He WAS fast though, you could see the 4.2 speed.
January 5th, 2010 at 12:59 pm
he kinda did run a yard or 2 passed him… no? i’ll take you word seeing as tho i didn’t remember how the play came about
January 5th, 2010 at 12:59 pm
Al, if you are not willing to hire a GM, at least bring in Charlie Casserly and Mike Mayock as “senior executives” to at least give their two cents.
January 5th, 2010 at 1:00 pm
take care fellas. and kell post the damn records. we all wanna know how we’ve done in the last 7 yrs
January 5th, 2010 at 1:01 pm
mike mayock predicted the dhb pick. said he had him as 3rd best wr. and a late 1st rd pick
January 5th, 2010 at 1:05 pm
WTF ???
January 5th, 2010 at 1:05 pm
new englandraider Says:
January 5th, 2010 at 12:50 pm
i’d rather pick on kell
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Oh, so you too have a solution outside of hoping and praying? You just said that hoping and praying was all we can do. But as it turns out, you like to attack the character of people who criticize the system, while you’re at it. I see.
January 5th, 2010 at 1:06 pm
What happened during the bye week, Vegas?
Go ahead and spill the beans!
January 5th, 2010 at 1:08 pm
Yeah Vegas….DHB got there first and like ran a little past the G-man and at that moment Murphy tackled the Gman.I t looked like DHB had EXPLICIT orders not to touch anyone lol
January 5th, 2010 at 1:13 pm
jhill Says:
January 5th, 2010 at 1:06 pm
What happened during the bye week, Vegas?
Go ahead and spill the beans!
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I don’t really have anything, but I think Jamarcus looked at the bye week as a week off and that’s probably not how the Raiders wanted him to look at it.
January 5th, 2010 at 1:17 pm
vegas raider Says:
January 5th, 2010 at 1:13 pm
I don’t really have anything, but I think Jamarcus looked at the bye week as a week off and that’s probably not how the Raiders wanted him to look at it.
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The fat fvck should have been hittin the film room as soon as he got out of the showers on Sunday.
No doubt he looked at the bye as a mid season vacation.
January 5th, 2010 at 1:18 pm
Shuffling off from Buffalo: Entire Bills coaching staff fired!
I guess they are serious about changing their results. They obviously don’t want to become the EAST COAST Raiders.
January 5th, 2010 at 1:19 pm
We absolutely must select one of the following players with the #8 pick:
Russell Okung OT
Rolando McClain MLB
Gerald McCoy DT
Suh DT
Trent Williams OT
Spikes MLB
Al, pick anyone else and I might have a stroke.
January 5th, 2010 at 1:24 pm
I am leaning towards Mt. Cody, unless maybe if McCoy is there.
Have to stop the run, and I don’t think anyone else makes a more immediate impact in run D than Mt. Cody.
January 5th, 2010 at 1:25 pm
i submited this question about a hundred times and he wouldn’t answer… maybe still pissed off about all my Maria Sharapova questions from last year???
if i promise to submit your name for a Pullitzer Prize will you answer this question? what is the story behind Cable and Bush? why won’t Cable use Bush more with his 5 yards per carry average?
January 5th, 2010 at 1:25 pm
Dakota – make sure you’re nearby a hospital while watching the draft
January 5th, 2010 at 1:27 pm
I agree Florida Pete – and it’s not a skatter back 5 yards per carry average. Like there’s some who get nothing, nothing, nothing and finally break something. Bush is generally pretty solid with his runs…. AND he’s an explosive threat. Don’t understand it myself.
January 5th, 2010 at 1:27 pm
Write this down: Tom Cable will be retained, and Marc Trestman will be the OC.
January 5th, 2010 at 1:29 pm
If you didn’t have a stroke whrn you heard DHBs name, then I doubt it will happen this year, lol!
Where is Cody ranked? I don’t see him on top of anyone’s draft board.
January 5th, 2010 at 1:29 pm
Dakota, Mike Mayock is not leaving ESPN for the Raiders.
January 5th, 2010 at 1:30 pm
Pete,
If I know Jerry and his smart-azz little humor he has, his answer would be:
I don’t know what you are talking about, Bush only averaged 4.8 ypc this year.
January 5th, 2010 at 1:31 pm
# CaptainBlack Says:
January 5th, 2010 at 1:27 pm
Write this down: Tom Cable will be retained, and Marc Trestman will be the OC.
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I highly doubt Trestman would come as an O-Coordinator again.
January 5th, 2010 at 1:33 pm
Did Bush really average 4.8 yards a carry this year? Unbelievable. And we ran him, what, on average, 15 times a game? Bye, Cable.
January 5th, 2010 at 1:35 pm
So you really mean to tell me that Al is not going to at least put a couple of feelers out there?
Don’t think he had Harbaugh and his Dad up for a quick visit while they were at the stadium? Don’t think Harbaugh got a nice rush being out there on a PRO sideline this weekend?
Think Gilbride gets his call returned or Fassell?
January 5th, 2010 at 1:38 pm
jhill Says:
January 5th, 2010 at 1:35 pm
Don’t think Harbaugh got a nice rush being out there on a PRO sideline this weekend?
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Well, it was the Raiders. That’s sort of pro, I guess.
January 5th, 2010 at 1:39 pm
I wonder if Al made Madden pay for his suite on Sunday? Or was he in Al’s suite?
Guess I should hava asked Jerry.
January 5th, 2010 at 1:39 pm
Jerry Mac said:
shirtless Vince Young, partying down (right next to Michael Huff ,by he way).
Someone may have pointed this out already but I think it was actually Stanford Routt wasn’t it?
I remember giving him sh-it about it
January 5th, 2010 at 1:40 pm
Jerry has gone from ducking my Southwick questions to ducking my Losman questions…
January 5th, 2010 at 1:42 pm
# The Real MaddenRaider Says:
January 5th, 2010 at 1:33 pm
Did Bush really average 4.8 yards a carry this year? Unbelievable. And we ran him, what, on average, 15 times a game? Bye, Cable.
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He was given the ball less than 10 times per game on average. That’s the joke.
January 5th, 2010 at 1:44 pm
Cable stays.
Russell stays.
UNLESS Russell’s as lazy as everyone says. Gawd, I hope not…
Jerry thinks SanJay Lal will get to stay too even after Bey and Higgins. WAAAAY too often you saw WRs crossing each other, dropping catches and running embarrasingly sh-it routes and competeing for the same throw because they were completely out of position dragging defenders in to the play with them.
Sickening and completely ridiculous considering the amount of polish they KNOW Bey, Higgins and Murphy need.
Lets start Green and Carlisle next year too while we’re at it…
January 5th, 2010 at 1:46 pm
Unbelievable, Maverick. Yeh, I was obviously giving them the benefit of the doubt with 15 carries. Just unreal. Those of you arguing to keep Cable, we’ve just pulled up a stat that might prove that he’s the worst Raider coach ever.
January 5th, 2010 at 1:47 pm
raiderzmaverick Says:
January 5th, 2010 at 1:42 pm
# The Real MaddenRaider Says:
January 5th, 2010 at 1:33 pm
Did Bush really average 4.8 yards a carry this year? Unbelievable. And we ran him, what, on average, 15 times a game? Bye, Cable.
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He was given the ball less than 10 times per game on average. That’s the joke.
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Some of it may be our offense ran fewer plays then other teams, some of its to reward and set an example with Fargas on how to run hard every play, some of its Bush’s penchant to lose the handle onthe ball and some of it may be Bush’s attitude.
Speculative of course. Can’t see it as a vendetta against him or anything. I think ALOT of guys on offense were miscast and mis or under used.
Crazy and something I pray gets fixed next year
January 5th, 2010 at 1:51 pm
# vegas raider Says:
January 5th, 2010 at 1:39 pm
I wonder if Al made Madden pay for his suite on Sunday? Or was he in Al’s suite?
Guess I should hava asked Jerry.
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My guess is that Madden’s net worth right now is much greater than Davis’. What’s the old saying about mixing friendship & financials? It never works out. I pretty sure Madden could easily afford to buy ALL the luxury boxes and not even notice a bump to his checking account. This is also why Madden is not involved with the team in a management position. He’s knows he’d have to fire Davis or at a minimum relieve him of all operational actions and that no doubt would damage their friendship. Madden is thankful to Davis for giving him his shot. And, it has paid off handsomely for Madden. He’s not about to screw-up a good thing.
January 5th, 2010 at 1:52 pm
There’s no excuse for a head coach with a struggling offense letting the season end with a running back averaging over 4 years a carry and only getting the ball less than 10 times per game. No excuse. When you’ve got somewhat of a running game, you use it. You do anything to generate offense. Cable has to go.
January 5th, 2010 at 1:53 pm
Here;s what jaMarcus was doing after missing the last meeting per Cam Imam on my Twitter page
“QB JaMarcus Russell, who skipped final team meeting, apparently in Vegas at Palms. Tip via column reader; hotel front desk confirms”
January 5th, 2010 at 1:54 pm
Ray Ratto’s giving his take on Tiger’s shirtless Vanity Fair cover. He looks like his mouth’s watering a little.
January 5th, 2010 at 1:55 pm
Rome’s about to clown the Raiders in his next segment. McGahee’s straight arm. Called it “epic”.
January 5th, 2010 at 1:59 pm
Michael Bush Carries (all healthy games)
SD 12 Attempts
KC 9
Den 6
Hou 3
NYG 12
Phi 6
NYJ 8
SD 7
KC 14
Cin 4
Dal 3
Pit 1
Wash 0
Den 18
Cle 10
Bal 10
After the Bye Week he really started picking up his production in Yards Per Carry. He averaged 5.98ypc after the bye. In 4 of the games he got 10 carries or more. In only 1 game did he get 15 or more carries (and that game he ran for 133 yards).
The other 4 games COMBINED after the bye he got 8 carries).
January 5th, 2010 at 2:00 pm
# kokomo Says:
January 5th, 2010 at 1:53 pm
Here;s what jaMarcus was doing after missing the last meeting per Cam Imam on my Twitter page
“QB JaMarcus Russell, who skipped final team meeting, apparently in Vegas at Palms. Tip via column reader; hotel front desk confirms”
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Wow! Davis, do you really need any more to convince you to finally get rid of this fat tub of $h1t!
January 5th, 2010 at 2:00 pm
In Fact, the 2 games Michael Bush for 14 or more carries (yes, he only got 14 or more carries in 2 games) he averaged 8.5 yards per carry and then 7.4 yards per carry running for over 100 yards in both games.
January 5th, 2010 at 2:01 pm
THINGS THAT SHOULD GO BANG IN THE NIGHT:
(In NO particular order)
• JaBustus
• The ZBS
• 60% of the starting O-line
• 100% of the back-up O-line
• WR Asst. Coach
• LB Asst. Coach
• D-line Coach
• O-line Coach
• RB Asst. Coach
• Head Coach
• Al Davis’ Inner Circle Group
• All AD Scholarship players
• NFL “Blackout Rule”
• Pro Bowl “Before” Super Bowl scheduling
This list would be good for a start.
January 5th, 2010 at 2:02 pm
0 carries against the skins that had a boat load of defenders injured, including Haynesworth!
He will be replaced as OC but not HC, imo.
January 5th, 2010 at 2:03 pm
kokomo Says:
January 5th, 2010 at 1:53 pm
Here;s what jaMarcus was doing after missing the last meeting per Cam Imam on my Twitter page
“QB JaMarcus Russell, who skipped final team meeting, apparently in Vegas at Palms. Tip via column reader; hotel front desk confirms”
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He had to get a leg up, the AVN awards are in town this weekend. Time for Jamarcus to bang some porn stars.
Priorities!!
January 5th, 2010 at 2:04 pm
Here’s a question to ponder.
What will it take for JaMarcus to return as starter?
Telling him to report in at a certain weight doesn’t guarantee anything. Otherwise Valerie Bertinelli would be starting.
Would it take one solid pre-season game or practice?
Or does he have to show up at the film room at 06:30?
Tough to say.
IMO, I think AL will make it easy for him to get another chance at starting. ie showing up at his combine weight, +or- 10 lbs.
I don’t think Al would dump him before JaMarcus gets another shot at the starting job next year.
January 5th, 2010 at 2:04 pm
Tom Cable = Worst Raider coach ever. Bugel was saddled with a horrible defense. Shell didn’t have a running back in ‘06 producing like Bush. I’m all ears, guys. Name a worse Raider coach than Tom Cable. You won’t. A running back, healthy at that, averaging 4/carry and getting less than 10 carries per game. Un f’n heard of! Cable could be the worst coach in the history of the NFL.
January 5th, 2010 at 2:05 pm
If JR partying in Vegas isn’t the last straw, I’m not sure what is.
January 5th, 2010 at 2:06 pm
Hahahahahahah Russell out partying in Vegas last night huh? Missed final team meeting of the year. Yep and Al may just let him back because he is a great player so get over it lol. This is a damn joke
January 5th, 2010 at 2:07 pm
Yeh, Carl, get a new OC and keep Cable on as HC. Tell me, what would Cable’s duties be, then? To motivate the team? To instill discipline? Yeh, he’s really demonstrated he could do that thus far, hasn’t he? This team is the same cast of clowns that have taken the field every year since ‘03, with different names and faces.
January 5th, 2010 at 2:07 pm
Vegas Raider lol. What have I been telling yall all along about that damn guy?
January 5th, 2010 at 2:07 pm
vegas raider Says:
January 5th, 2010 at 2:03 pm
kokomo Says:
January 5th, 2010 at 1:53 pm
Here;s what jaMarcus was doing after missing the last meeting per Cam Imam on my Twitter page
“QB JaMarcus Russell, who skipped final team meeting, apparently in Vegas at Palms. Tip via column reader; hotel front desk confirms”
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Is that for real?
If that were the case, Al might just call him up and tell him don’t bother coming back.
January 5th, 2010 at 2:07 pm
Kokomom…………Al loves it that players party and live the life
January 5th, 2010 at 2:08 pm
NorthernD hell yeah thats the case and he parties here in the Bay Area like no other
January 5th, 2010 at 2:08 pm
Here’s Cam’s follow up tweet:
CamInman If blowing off final Raiders team meeting for trip to Vegas isn’t final straw, what is? @tbone6 You think Jamarcus gets cut?
January 5th, 2010 at 2:09 pm
I wonder what Koo Koo Kell has to say now?
Remember Kell talking trash on me saying I didnt know what I was talking about and that I didnt even know Jamarcus Russell?
Kell what da hell do you gotta say now?
January 5th, 2010 at 2:10 pm
Takes a 5-11 team to 5-11. Has a running back that averages 4 years per carry getting the ball less than 10 times per game. A noted woman beater. Punches an assistant, causing a huge distraction just before the start of the season, when the team needs to be focused. This might honestly be the worst coach in the history of the NFL.
January 5th, 2010 at 2:11 pm
Jamarcus Russell= Gucci Mane feat Plies
“I dont wear tight jeans like the whites boyssssssssss, but I do get wasted like the white boyssssssssssssssssss”
January 5th, 2010 at 2:11 pm
JaMarcus Russell finished the season with a passer rating of 50.0, the lowest for any qualifying NFL quarterback since 1998.
In 1998 this feat was accomplished by none other than Ryan Leaf.
January 5th, 2010 at 2:12 pm
Worst coach ever=Rod Martinelli….he went 0-16…..next
January 5th, 2010 at 2:13 pm
Jamarcus is wasted…….im so wasted she so wasted….tell the bartender to get 20 more cases
January 5th, 2010 at 2:13 pm
MR you are hilarious. Why stop there? Perhaps Cable is the worst person in the history of the species?
January 5th, 2010 at 2:14 pm
B,
I’ve heard stories these days too. But you were on it from the jump.
I bought into the last 2 games last year, and even got his jersey, LOL.
I don’t know who tried harder to get fired Kiffin or Jamarcus.
January 5th, 2010 at 2:14 pm
I think Art Shell is without a doubt a worse coach. Period. I remember him trying to be an “enforcer” and just stirring the $hit without getting any movement at all.
January 5th, 2010 at 2:14 pm
At least Kiffin kept coaching when he was trying to get fired…..
January 5th, 2010 at 2:15 pm
I honestly don’t think Cable’s better than Marinelli. Put Tom Cable in as HC of that Lions team and he’s 0-16, too. At least Marinelli ran Smith more than 10 times per game.
January 5th, 2010 at 2:15 pm
VR I was right from the jump becuz I go out in the nightlife right where all these guys are at. I know their suppliers, who sells them cars, who has done their security and even know the broads they bang. I live in the area and these streets talk and everyone knew it. Its a damn shame people had the nerve to doubt my claims
January 5th, 2010 at 2:17 pm
Marinelli went 0-16 in the modern era of football sorry MR your agenda is more important than stating the actual facts
January 5th, 2010 at 2:17 pm
Maverick, Shell had worse personnel than Cable. All Cable had to do was run the football this year and we would have won 8 games, an improvement that would have been a huge motivation factor going into next year. Shell had a horrible squad.
January 5th, 2010 at 2:17 pm
The Raiders – One of the few NFL teams that can field a squad in Las Vegas. Too bad they can’t field a squad on gameday.
January 5th, 2010 at 2:17 pm
Vegas Raider……….I dont have to hear stories. I got my own eyes
January 5th, 2010 at 2:17 pm
No, bri, YOUR agenda is more important than stating the actual facts.
January 5th, 2010 at 2:18 pm
MR you know like I know Al told him to pass the ball. You say Al this and Al that but then wanna throw the blame on Cable who is nothing but a soldier for Al Davis
January 5th, 2010 at 2:19 pm
Hey MR,
If it were up to me Gruden would never have been traded.
I’m just saying IMO or I’m guessing, he’ll be HC again next year.
January 5th, 2010 at 2:19 pm
# The Real MaddenRaider Says:
January 5th, 2010 at 2:17 pm
No, bri, YOUR agenda is more important than stating the actual facts.
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Great comeback………and notice VR just said I was on the issue with JR partying too much and not giving a damn before anyone
January 5th, 2010 at 2:19 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
January 5th, 2010 at 2:04 pm
Tom Cable = Worst Raider coach ever. Bugel was saddled with a horrible defense. Shell didn’t have a running back in ‘06 producing like Bush. I’m all ears, guys. Name a worse Raider coach than Tom Cable. You won’t. A running back, healthy at that, averaging 4/carry and getting less than 10 carries per game. Un f’n heard of! Cable could be the worst coach in the history of the NFL.
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Name a worse Raider’s HC?
John Rauch…clearly Al Davis was the genius behind the team’s early success…
You can almost hear your skin starting to bubble. (Breathe, breathe…)
January 5th, 2010 at 2:19 pm
I stated he was partying too much and not working and guess what comes out?
January 5th, 2010 at 2:20 pm
John Rauch was a good coach and didnt allow Al to punk him
January 5th, 2010 at 2:20 pm
I’ve heard of all 3 RB’s out here a few times. First time I have heard of Jamarcus out here. There is this guy Norm that does the gossip out here, let’s see if Jamarcus makes the role call of “sightings”
January 5th, 2010 at 2:21 pm
MR……just like in little ass cowtown Sacramento you guys see when the Kings players are out and about well out here we see all the athletes time and time again
January 5th, 2010 at 2:21 pm
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/01/05/jamarcus-missed-team-meeting-but-not-vegas/
January 5th, 2010 at 2:21 pm
Raider players constantly by the Bayfair Mall area….guess what place is near there? Ricky’s Sports Bar the biggest Raider bar in the world
January 5th, 2010 at 2:22 pm
Maybe now Jaba can be cut without pay for ditching the team meeting due to some contract details…
bye bye jafatass
January 5th, 2010 at 2:22 pm
Chilis is right there thats where I met and talked with a number of Raider players over the years
January 5th, 2010 at 2:23 pm
MR its just too bad I tell the truth and beat your ass everytime Im in here
January 5th, 2010 at 2:23 pm
Raiders just announced a new product in their NFL Franchise store. Raider Pinatas. They’ve got a JaBustus version, a Tom Cable version, a John Herrera version and one of the dark Lord himself – the Al Davis version. Fans will really appreciate them. Give them a good smack and they’ll schit all over you. Just like the real thing. GET YOURS NOW:
http://www.raiderstore.com/pinatas
January 5th, 2010 at 2:25 pm
Bo
lol
was just thinking, How can anyone hate someone so much? Oh yeah its MR, hater extrodinaire.
January 5th, 2010 at 2:26 pm
MR is a punk ass virgin who has never experienced the wetness of a woman
January 5th, 2010 at 2:26 pm
The Return of Godliness Says:
January 5th, 2010 at 2:07 pm
Kokomom…………Al loves it that players party and live the life
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Having party animal players was cool back in the 60’s and 70’s, but now?
Al is in his 80’s. When does he beome the crusty old man who tells the kids to get off his porch?
Even the playboy mansion has calmed down. They don’t have the same wild parties like they once did.
January 5th, 2010 at 2:26 pm
Maybe Russell is in vegas to collect on his -/+ turnover ratio bet from their game Sunday.
January 5th, 2010 at 2:26 pm
MR has been exposed as a liar and troll many times on here
January 5th, 2010 at 2:26 pm
LOL. A commenter at PFT has the nick “Alzado’s Vein”. Too funny.
January 5th, 2010 at 2:40 pm
Trying to get a no-partying clause in his contract would be pretty difficult.
If he’s partying like you say, then it should only be a matter of time before he pulls a “Plax” and gives the team legal justification to can him.
January 5th, 2010 at 2:50 pm
Art Shell, the Sequel is easily the worst Raider coach.
That’s as easy as the answer to “Who is the worst Raider QB?”
January 6th, 2010 at 2:34 pm
Waht can you expect from someone who could not even
achieve a .500pct record at the University of Idaho
February 4th, 2010 at 9:15 pm
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