Gannon offers to help
By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Wednesday, January 6th, 2010 at 1:32 pm in Oakland Raiders.
Assuming he can get past John Herrera, Rich Gannon would like to return and offer advice to his former team.
Rich Gannon, a blunt and direct critic of the Raiders play in his role as a CBS analyst and host of a Sirius Satellite Radio show, said on the air he has placed a call to Al Davis.
“I did something yesterday that I can’t believe even I did. I picked up the phone and I reached out to Al Davis,” Gannon said on the Sirius Blitz. “So I called Mr. Davis, I have not spoken with him yet, but I’m happy to help out in any way I can. I’d love to help JaMarcus Russell if he wants help. I’d love to help Tom Cable and that organization. It’s important. Listen, seven straight seasons where they’ve lost 11 or more games? Something’s not right.”
When Gannon was scheduled for a production meeting in Alameda before a game against Denver, Herrera said Gannon was unwelcome and the Raiders considered trying to ban him from the facility before they realized they couldn’t.
“He seems to be a guy who can’t get over the fact that he played the worst Super Bowl in the history of the game and he wants to blame everybody but himself,” Herrera said on Sept. 26. “I guess it’s our fault he threw five interceptions.”
Gannon has said several times he has no interest in coaching but has worked with quarterbacks in Minnesota and Tampa Bay by request.
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January 6th, 2010 at 1:33 pm
Gannon can go shut the F up. He didnt win shyt
January 6th, 2010 at 1:33 pm
Return the call Al!!!!!
January 6th, 2010 at 1:34 pm
Oh Gannon something isnt right? How could he have guessed it?
January 6th, 2010 at 1:34 pm
Way to represent Rich
January 6th, 2010 at 1:34 pm
Half of his passes were just thrown in the air and the WR adjusted and outjumped the DB.
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Imagine that, WRs actually making a play on the ball.
January 6th, 2010 at 1:35 pm
Doesnt Al despise Gannon. Herrera was just working on Al’s order.
January 6th, 2010 at 1:36 pm
LMFAO!
Gannon is going to be Russell’s personal QB coach and the OC!
January 6th, 2010 at 1:36 pm
Rich was fkn awesome. I went to the AFC championship against the Titans, he picked them dudes apart.
His stats would have been even better but Porter dropped a perfectly thrown TD.
Rich, focus your energy on Bruce would you?
January 6th, 2010 at 1:37 pm
Hey he threw 5 pcks in the S/B and stunk it up….Almost 8 years B….still I thought hackett as QB coach,just what could he do tho?
January 6th, 2010 at 1:37 pm
Tell Vegas about A Walker …
January 6th, 2010 at 1:38 pm
rich gannon won a few games but i never liked him and was shocked we even came close to a title………..but we still didnt win a title
January 6th, 2010 at 1:38 pm
LOL Jhill
January 6th, 2010 at 1:39 pm
Jhill
Again as to your point earlier, Gannon would be a guy to get in Russell’s face and make demands.
But of course Davis’ vendetta is more important.
January 6th, 2010 at 1:39 pm
Rich Gannon is the PERFECT QB coach for Russell.
Are you fugging kidding me?
The EXACT guy that would’ve been chewing his ass out on the sidelines and in practice and had NO fear of getting walked out by Al’s goons!
January 6th, 2010 at 1:39 pm
Gannon should have won the bowl in 2000 if Gruden didnt change gameplan saturday night
January 6th, 2010 at 1:39 pm
# KoolKell Says:
January 6th, 2010 at 1:39 pm
Jhill
Again as to your point earlier, Gannon would be a guy to get in Russell’s face and make demands.
But of course Davis’ vendetta is more important.
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So is yours!!!
January 6th, 2010 at 1:40 pm
Walker wrote bad checks at these casino’s out here, lol.
NBA is different, those guys go on road-trips and can drop 5 figures a night for a week straight.
Russell doesn’t have Master P as his agent. I would be suprised if went bankrupt. Not saying he’s going to live his life like he did 2009 for long, but not broke.
January 6th, 2010 at 1:40 pm
jhill Says:
January 6th, 2010 at 1:34 pm
Half of his passes were just thrown in the air and the WR adjusted and outjumped the DB.
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Imagine that, WRs actually making a play on the ball.
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Its much diffrent when you have a elite NFL WR going up against subpar college DBs. In the NFL the corners are just as good. I do see your point, but in college JR didnt NEED to be accurate. His WRs were going to come down with it regardless.
January 6th, 2010 at 1:40 pm
Rich, focus your energy on Bruce would you?
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LMFAO!
Bruce already has Garcia and Hackett!
January 6th, 2010 at 1:40 pm
Gannon is perfect for Russell how? Russell is incapable of being a decent QB in this league
January 6th, 2010 at 1:40 pm
Very interesting. About Gannon and a phone call.
Very idiotic premise by J Mc on the previous post. Don’t cut JRuss until the end of training camp because it won’t cost anything? Keeping him around could well cost millions of dollars in unrenewed season tickets and unsold single game tickets if it strings out. Guess our Fearless Leader didn’t think that one through.
January 6th, 2010 at 1:41 pm
Only an idiot would rip Rich Gannon.
He threw for 4,000 yards and was the league MVP.
And he and Gruden want to help the Raiders.
WTF is wrong with Al Davis?
January 6th, 2010 at 1:41 pm
Maybe the problem has been Cable’s way of dealing with JaBustus. Rather than bowing & saluting when Jabustus approaches, Cable should have given him a little Randy Hanson action and make it clear right up front that he either shapes up or ships out right after he smacks him around for awhile to make sure he was paying attention to the message.
JaBustus needs his ass kicked if for no other reason than to remind him that it’s time to grow up and act responsible.
I personally do not think he will ever make it in the NFL. He has developed too many bad habits, is not willing to get down to playing weight (250 or less), has both bad footwork & throwing motions, is overall slow in everything he does and appears to NOT be very bright. He may also have learning disabilities. A QB in the NFL who is not quick & intelligent is dead meat. And, I think that’s what we have in JaBustus – DEAD MEAT.
I SAY PUT HIM OUT OF OUR MISERY AND LET’S MOVE ON. LIFE IS TOO SHORT TO HAVE TO DEAL WITH HIS BS.
January 6th, 2010 at 1:42 pm
Do you guys realize how cheap it is to live in Alabama. I have some family down there. Its one of the cheapest places in the country. Dude could live like a king on a fraction of that money and be adored by everyone as a local hero.
January 6th, 2010 at 1:43 pm
VR, 32 million guaranteed but how much doesthe govt take out?
He bought his family houses I assume and the lifestyle he loves so much cost to keep up
January 6th, 2010 at 1:43 pm
Vegas,
Just trust me when I tell you that Russell is not through chasing paper in the NFL. He may not get much more of it, but he is NOT done chasing it.
He CLEARLY looked better this past weekend than he has all season. Didn’t look like he’s quit on football to me. He may never be shyt, but it didn’t look like he didn’t want to be out there.
January 6th, 2010 at 1:43 pm
Gannon’s issue is a little odd. The Raiders don’t want his help and they mad that clear, but he keeps calling to offer it.
What is wrong with him?
January 6th, 2010 at 1:44 pm
# Kirk Says:
January 6th, 2010 at 1:41 pm
Only an idiot would rip Rich Gannon.
He threw for 4,000 yards and was the league MVP.
And he and Gruden want to help the Raiders.
WTF is wrong with Al Davis?
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come on we know what it is
January 6th, 2010 at 1:44 pm
Being loyal means to never cross Al or criticize him
January 6th, 2010 at 1:45 pm
It’s only a matter of time before Rich is back in the league either coaching or up-stairs.
Too much of a competitor to call games for 10 years. Didn’t he saw he watched EVERY snap Jamarcus has ever taking before the game he called? All in one week, now that’s a future coach!!!
It would be shame if Rich came back to the NFL for the Chiefs are something like that. He deserves to be a Raider.
January 6th, 2010 at 1:45 pm
Jhill=smoking as we speak if he just said that BS
January 6th, 2010 at 1:45 pm
Bring Back Gannon NOW!!!!!!
January 6th, 2010 at 1:45 pm
Raider O Says:
January 6th, 2010 at 1:43 pm
Gannon’s issue is a little odd. The Raiders don’t want his help and they mad that clear, but he keeps calling to offer it.
What is wrong with him?
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What is wrong with ALL Raider fans?
Love, I guess.
January 6th, 2010 at 1:46 pm
Jamarcus Russell hangs with Gucci Mane
“Ha, rock star lifestyle might don’t make it
Living life high everyday click wasted
Sipping on purple stuff rolling up stanky
Wake up in the morning 10 clock dranking
Party, party, party, let’s all get wasted
Shake it for me baby girl, do it butt naked
I’m so wasted, she so wasted shout the bartender
Send 20 more cases”
January 6th, 2010 at 1:46 pm
Is working with Gannon better then working with Paul Hackett. The guy has 40 years of experience and has worked with some of the best QBs of all time. He is actualy the one who tutored Gannon in Kansas City.
January 6th, 2010 at 1:46 pm
The Return of Godliness Says:
January 6th, 2010 at 1:40 pm
Gannon is perfect for Russell how?
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You know the answer to this, lol!
The first thing Gannon would have Russell do is lose 30 lbs! I bet you he wouldn’t even let him pick up a football until he hit a certain weight.
8 hour days of nothing but footwork and conditioning. He’d be WAY to tired to go out at night.
January 6th, 2010 at 1:47 pm
Raidertay,
yep, JRuss can retire to the front porch and listen to an uncle pick the Blues while Russell eats some peanuts, sips some moonshine and tells everyone how he woulda won multiple Super Bowls if only his blockers were better and his receivers tried harder for himself.
January 6th, 2010 at 1:47 pm
The Grand Guru aka the General<————said Russell didnt care and was partying more than focusing
Didnt Kell dispute this very hard?
January 6th, 2010 at 1:48 pm
Jhill,
Russell looked sharp enough at first to lure me back in and made me start pacing around, blogging and getting excited.
Than he threw the pick, my wife laughed at me and I wanted to punch something.
January 6th, 2010 at 1:48 pm
JB Says:
January 6th, 2010 at 1:41 pm
Maybe the problem has been Cable’s way of dealing with JaBustus. Rather than bowing & saluting when Jabustus approaches, Cable should have given him a little Randy Hanson action and make it clear right up front that he either shapes up or ships out right after he smacks him around for awhile to make sure he was paying attention to the message.
JaBustus needs his ass kicked if for no other reason than to remind him that it’s time to grow up and act responsible.
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Exactly!
January 6th, 2010 at 1:48 pm
The main reason this team is where its at is the Defense. Getting better players on defense is a must. MLB DT DE.
January 6th, 2010 at 1:49 pm
# M Lonetree Says:
January 6th, 2010 at 1:47 pm
Raidertay,
yep, JRuss can retire to the front porch and listen to an uncle pick the Blues while Russell eats some peanuts, sips some moonshine and tells everyone how he woulda won multiple Super Bowls if only his blockers were better and his receivers tried harder for himself.
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LOLOLOLOLOL that was awesome
January 6th, 2010 at 1:49 pm
We are Fans, but he is not! That’s makes his issue Odd. IMO
January 6th, 2010 at 1:50 pm
The Return of Godliness Says:
January 6th, 2010 at 1:45 pm
Jhill=smoking as we speak if he just said that BS
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Like you were actually watching Russell instead of the beezy you were trying to pork, lol!
And the other times, you had your hands over you face booing! I know I heard you through the BOSE, lol!
January 6th, 2010 at 1:51 pm
Hackett is too old to put hands on Russell
January 6th, 2010 at 1:52 pm
helping JA-MAN-BOOBS? LMFAO no-one can help this joke of a QB not only is he a fat-azz but mentally he’s a midget, he just doesn’t get it, has no pocket awareness, reading defenses, he’s just the worst bust in the history of the Raiders, GRADKOWSKI better be the starter next year or it’s going to another 5-11 season, enough is enough wtf up AL!
January 6th, 2010 at 1:52 pm
Tthere are those of you who blame Gannon for the SB loss, I’m not one of them. The other team knew all the plays from Gruden. Our HC should have had a much different gameplan – mistake 1. The biggest reason for the many interceptions was Gannon was getting killed out there. The loss of Barrett Robbins was the MAIN reason we got creamed. Adam Tru was terrible and the o-line totally fell apart. Robbins called all the blocking assignments and Tru didn’t have a clue.
Gannon did a fantastic job as QB and we’d be damn lucky to have him involved with the Raiders. He’d be a fantastic OC. I’m not sure he could do anything with JaBustus because you really need some talent to start with and I remain unconvinced that he has any. But, he could certainly help the other QB prospects.
January 6th, 2010 at 1:53 pm
Lynn………i think the DEs are straight…………we need Terrence Cody and someone like Brandon Mclain or Brandon Spikes though
January 6th, 2010 at 1:53 pm
Rich Gannon HC.
That’d make yelling and fisticuffs in meetings, in the boardroom, during practice, on the sidelines and in the locker room a mandate.
January 6th, 2010 at 1:54 pm
vegas raider Says:
January 6th, 2010 at 1:48 pm
Jhill,
Russell looked sharp enough at first to lure me back in and made me start pacing around, blogging and getting excited.
Than he threw the pick, my wife laughed at me and I wanted to punch something.
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Like I said, he looked better than any other time he has this season. Even Phil Simms was talking about how much better he looked and how many good things he did out there.
Not saying ANYTHING more than it didn’t look like the guy didn’t want to play.
January 6th, 2010 at 1:55 pm
He would move to Atl. Its cheap, tons of strip clubs and its an hour drive to Alabama. Something tells me he will go broke though. He’s just WAY too flashy
January 6th, 2010 at 1:56 pm
Bri3n
Have you ever been to Pine Street out in Livermore? EastBaySick will be playing there Friday Jan 22. Let me know if you want more info…
January 6th, 2010 at 1:57 pm
I think he is not over that SB loss, and maybe this is his way of trying to make up for it. People do strange things. When you offer your help, people refuse it, ask you to stop, then you should stop offering it. IMHO
January 6th, 2010 at 1:59 pm
Raider O,
no one asked for your help.
January 6th, 2010 at 1:59 pm
Also, why is Gannon telling the media of his multiple offers to help the Raiders?
January 6th, 2010 at 2:00 pm
The only lesson Al should let Gannon share is this:
“Son, do not ever try to steamroll a middle linebacker. You’ll break your fkin neck, Trust me.”
January 6th, 2010 at 2:01 pm
we have been week up the gut for 7 years now and it shows….we need 3DT’s and 2 MLB,s,imo
January 6th, 2010 at 2:01 pm
lmao M Lonntree
January 6th, 2010 at 2:02 pm
# jhill Says:
January 6th, 2010 at 1:50 pm
The Return of Godliness Says:
January 6th, 2010 at 1:45 pm
Jhill=smoking as we speak if he just said that BS
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Like you were actually watching Russell instead of the beezy you were trying to pork, lol!
And the other times, you had your hands over you face booing! I know I heard you through the BOSE, lol!
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Id rather eat a fat beezy than ever eat pork again
January 6th, 2010 at 2:02 pm
man after 2 bowls I seem to have lost my spelling capabilities
January 6th, 2010 at 2:03 pm
Trade DMAC for 5 lbs. of PORK!
January 6th, 2010 at 2:03 pm
First two rounds should be on D.
Cody, Dunlap or Mclain, Areans, or Spikes and another DT.
Our 2 3rd rounders should be on the O-line.
Than Al can do his thing with his WR, and Safeties in the later rounds.
January 6th, 2010 at 2:03 pm
schytt,
Al would have returned the phonecall if Gannon would not air it in public. Now Al will never return the phone call. Gannon should have known better than that when it comes to Al. Unless, this is all a publicity stunt for Gannon, which I doubt.
January 6th, 2010 at 2:03 pm
Raiderdogg heading to Livermore is like saying yeah give me a DUI please
January 6th, 2010 at 2:04 pm
No keep dmac and find Bo a proper toupe
January 6th, 2010 at 2:05 pm
M,
LMAO
I’m not helping.. I’m just sharing my thoughts. Not a good idea to accuse people of helping. That’s how people get hurt! lol
January 6th, 2010 at 2:05 pm
If you are saying anything positive for Russell you are therefore giving him all the excuses in the world
January 6th, 2010 at 2:06 pm
COME ON AL DONT F*CK UP THIS CHANCE OF A LIFE TIME! DO IT!
January 6th, 2010 at 2:06 pm
M Lonetree Says:
January 6th, 2010 at 1:53 pm
Rich Gannon HC.
That’d make yelling and fisticuffs in meetings, in the boardroom, during practice, on the sidelines and in the locker room a mandate.
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LMAO. Like Gannon ever got physical with another player. All mouth for that guy, which he continues to exercise on Sirius, the phone, TV, etc.
If anyone, he shoulda b-slapped Gruden for stealing his calls in the SB.
January 6th, 2010 at 2:06 pm
Bo,
Make it beef please. Al doesn’t eat pork.
January 6th, 2010 at 2:07 pm
Russell cant be helped. He dont want it nor is he smart enough
January 6th, 2010 at 2:07 pm
The Return of Godliness Says:
January 6th, 2010 at 2:04 pm
No keep dmac and find Bo a proper toupe
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Trade DMAC for a toupee!
January 6th, 2010 at 2:08 pm
Bo SJack,
C’mon. A former Wild Hog performer oughta be worth at least a smoked butt, some tripe and a coupla trotters.
January 6th, 2010 at 2:09 pm
Aig Says:
January 6th, 2010 at 2:03 pm
schytt,
Al would have returned the phonecall if Gannon would not air it in public. Now Al will never return the phone call. Gannon should have known better than that when it comes to Al. Unless, this is all a publicity stunt for Gannon, which I doubt.
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So all the slogans, Just Win Baby, Committment To Excellence is just a bunch of BS?
January 6th, 2010 at 2:10 pm
Can he play?
January 6th, 2010 at 2:11 pm
OJ was pigeon toed too, but didn’t fall down like a drunk on bourbon street… DMAC what happened to your skills?!?! (I’m giving Dakota the benefit of the doubt by assuming you ever had any).
January 6th, 2010 at 2:11 pm
Al would have returned the phonecall if Gannon would not air it in public. Now Al will never return the phone call.
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Same I think
January 6th, 2010 at 2:12 pm
M Lonetree Says:
January 6th, 2010 at 2:08 pm
Bo SJack,
C’mon. A former Wild Hog performer oughta be worth at least a smoked butt, some tripe and a coupla trotters.
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DONE! And feed it all to Satele! The kid’s got no lowers! (mmmmmmmmmmm…. tripa).
January 6th, 2010 at 2:13 pm
Al,
Chris Johnson was faster than DMC. Why didn’t you draft him?
January 6th, 2010 at 2:13 pm
Trade DMAC for Stu Schweigert!
January 6th, 2010 at 2:13 pm
Russell scored a 24 in the Wonderlic Test
January 6th, 2010 at 2:15 pm
“Paul Hackett had a tremendous impact on my career,He really taught me the system of football. He really molded me. I feel like he made me into the quarterback I am today.” – Gannon to the NY Daily News (2002).
What is Gannon going to teach him that Hackett is not??
January 6th, 2010 at 2:15 pm
Miketyson Says:
January 6th, 2010 at 2:13 pm
Russell scored a 24 in the Wonderlic Test
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Yeah, didn’t Dan Marino score a 14 or something?
January 6th, 2010 at 2:16 pm
Damn you P Harvin and Maclin, why didn’t you run a sub 4.3?
January 6th, 2010 at 2:17 pm
According to Edgar Cayce when he was in his trances giving readings the idea of time was all illusory. He said that all things are always happening at the same moment.
Da Greatness of da Raiduhs is in da always.
January 6th, 2010 at 2:17 pm
Raidertay Says:
January 6th, 2010 at 2:15 pm
“Paul Hackett had a tremendous impact on my career,He really taught me the system of football. He really molded me. I feel like he made me into the quarterback I am today.” – Gannon to the NY Daily News (2002).
What is Gannon going to teach him that Hackett is not??
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A younger more energetic more confrontational man?
January 6th, 2010 at 2:17 pm
“He seems to be a guy who can’t get over the fact that he played the worst Super Bowl in the history of the game and he wants to blame everybody but himself,” Herrera said on Sept. 26. “I guess it’s our fault he threw five interceptions.”
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When is this fukin c0ck gobbler going to choke to death on Al’s nutz?
January 6th, 2010 at 2:18 pm
Anything but Stu!!
January 6th, 2010 at 2:19 pm
M Lonetree Says:
January 6th, 2010 at 2:17 pm
According to Edgar Cayce when he was in his trances giving readings the idea of time was all illusory. He said that all things are always happening at the same moment.
Da Greatness of da Raiduhs is in da always.
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LMFAO!
January 6th, 2010 at 2:23 pm
Bo
I read an article that stated the gov has been taking over many contractor jobs and doing them in house. It did not say what type of jobs.
Are the feds really taking on more stuff like that?
I may need to enlist so I can survive the depression.
January 6th, 2010 at 2:28 pm
KoolKell Says:
January 6th, 2010 at 2:09 pm
So all the slogans, Just Win Baby, Committment To Excellence is just a bunch of BS?
I hate to break the bad news, little buddy but those are just signs. Every college and high school across the nation has one, some you touch, some you rub, some you slap, but in the end there are meaningless words.
I think you should change your moniker to dreamchaser or livinginthepast.
January 6th, 2010 at 2:32 pm
jhill Says:
January 6th, 2010 at 1:21 pm
The celebrity ends when the paper ends …
If Russell is as dumb as a lot of you say he is, how much of that 20 million do you think he has left?
30 million minus the IRS part is about 20.
The rolls, house, bling, and party favors?
Can’t be much left.
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With the exception of a few posters from these neck of the woods, JR might just be the dumbest person around.
The guy can’t figure out simple replies to questions.
Can’t figure out a Vegas trip, NOW, isn’t the best PR move.
Can’t figure out a playbook, IN THREE YEARS, that most players learn before a single training camp is over…
How in the hell can he figure out simple money management?
Guy buys a full length gawdy as hell mink coat immediately?
a 100,000$ necklace of a diamond encrusted raider jersey with #2 on it? (should have left room for Biggest Bust of All Time)
a 35,000 bracelet?
Pays for 5 rooms in Vegas for his entourage?
Only person happy for JR is Mike Tyson, hoping he’ll get bumped from owning the title of Penthouse to the Outhouse.
January 6th, 2010 at 2:33 pm
Plunketthead Says:
January 6th, 2010 at 2:23 pm
Bo
I read an article that stated the gov has been taking over many contractor jobs and doing them in house. It did not say what type of jobs.
Are the feds really taking on more stuff like that?
I may need to enlist so I can survive the depression.
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You referring to defense contractors? No fears here…we make heavy machinery, etc.
I haven’t heard anything of the sort actually. The trend has been to go more and more commercial for defense acquisitions, service/repair, intel, etc.
January 6th, 2010 at 2:33 pm
Trade DMAC for a new slogan!
January 6th, 2010 at 2:34 pm
Unbelievable that anyone would say they didn’t like Gannon as a quarterback. They were unstoppable with him at the controls. He didn’t throw jump balls. He was pinpoint accurate. A surgeon. Statistically, he had the best season of any Raider QB. He won an MVP for crying out loud. The 5 interception comment by Herrera is ignorant. Gruden had the frickin’ playbook. The Bucs said afterwards everything Gruden said the Raiders would run was run.
January 6th, 2010 at 2:35 pm
JR is a players player.
You can bet he gets another chance next year.
Look for Al to draft almost all big arse O linemen to protect the sixty million dollar man.
January 6th, 2010 at 2:37 pm
I dont think it was defense or anything real vital.
Probaly easier stuff like paper shuffling.
January 6th, 2010 at 2:39 pm
NFL’s All Time Worst 5 General Managers.
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Wow, a one-time genius is now stuck in the past. When an owner/general manager continues to use the phrase “commitment to excellence” over and over again to describe a team that has a record of 29-83 since 2003, 7 consecutive seasons of 11 loses or more, and 4 coaches in 6 years, you know he’s living in the past. The once proud franchise took a page out of Daniel Snyder’s business handbook on Football management. At one time, this franchise had the greatest winning percentage in all of professional sports, was a perennial playoff team and contender year after year. Somewhere along the way, Al Davis went completely insane, hired and fired coaches over and over again, and displayed a complete lack of understanding not typical of someone in the Pro Football Hall of Fame. Known as a ‘maverick’, he’s certainly that as he’s ignored the conventional wisdom of hiring good people and leaving them alone. Instead, he’s known to interfere in play calling, chasing over the hill free agents, and drafting complete duds like Jamarcus Russell whose 3 year quarterback rating is an abysmal 65.2%.
http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/2557245/the_nfls_top_5_alltime_worst_general_pg2.html?cat=14
January 6th, 2010 at 2:40 pm
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January 6th, 2010 at 2:40 pm
Pre draft evaluations
dmac= skinny legged RB that don’t break tackles. Most yards came from gimmick wildhog formation
DHB= speedy WR. Far from polished. Needs to improve routes and learn to catch ball more consistantly. Not yet ready compared to harvin or maclin.
Russell= big arm. Questions about his desire and work ethic. All tools there. Will he be motivated.
These evaluations seem to be holding true. So far atleast
January 6th, 2010 at 2:40 pm
Gannon has said several times he has no interest in coaching but has worked with quarterbacks in Minnesota and Tampa Bay by request.
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who? Josh Freeman & Tarvaris Jackson?
January 6th, 2010 at 2:41 pm
The Return of Godliness Says:
January 6th, 2010 at 1:38 pm
rich gannon won a few games but i never liked him and was shocked we even came close to a title………..but we still didnt win a title
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Weren’t you..like…12 when the Raiders went to the SB?
Hey..tell us again how jazzed you are that you exchanged info with a beat writer…how grown up you felt.
Add some gusto to it this time..you know..spice it up.
January 6th, 2010 at 2:42 pm
In reference to JaMarcus and Marino’s wonderlic scores, standardized tests do not account for motivation.
January 6th, 2010 at 2:42 pm
I’d love to help JaMarcus Russell if he wants help.
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did he want Cable, Tollner or Hackett’s help?
January 6th, 2010 at 2:43 pm
Jesus…
For cryin out loud old man Al….hire Gannon as a Personnel Consultant or VP of Football Operations.
He is a WINNER….he is offerring to help….take the help!
January 6th, 2010 at 2:43 pm
mack-madden Says:
January 6th, 2010 at 2:40 pm
Pre draft evaluations
dmac= skinny legged RB that don’t break tackles. Most yards came from gimmick wildhog formation
DHB= speedy WR. Far from polished. Needs to improve routes and learn to catch ball more consistantly. Not yet ready compared to harvin or maclin.
Russell= big arm. Questions about his desire and work ethic. All tools there. Will he be motivated.
These evaluations seem to be holding true. So far atleast
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My advice to you is write down everything I say.
When possible, bet on it.
then you can thank me later.
Detailed all of the above woes, plus numerous others, prior to any of them stepping on the field.
Chants of “We are not worthy” when I’m walking by, are getting old, but I still appreciate them, none the less.
January 6th, 2010 at 2:44 pm
John Herrera is one of the diseases that need to be eradicated from the Raiders Alameda Facility and from the “organization” in general!
Herrera knows if there is TRUE change within those offices and then his sorry azz is out of a job!
January 6th, 2010 at 2:46 pm
I think Gannon, Tollner & Hackett could do wonders with work horses like Losman, Frye & Gradkowski … but Russell?
obviously he’s not self motivated or driven. what does it take to get this kid’s mind right?
I put JaMarcus in the same boat as Terdell Sands. a physical beast that just doesn’t rise to the challenge. terribly inconsistant. 1 great play followed by 25 bad ones
January 6th, 2010 at 2:46 pm
DKnight007 Says:
January 6th, 2010 at 2:43 pm
Jesus…
For cryin out loud old man Al….hire Gannon as a Personnel Consultant or VP of Football Operations.
He is a WINNER….he is offerring to help….take the help!
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Not going to happen…EVER.
Rich Gannon: “It’s not a tough place to work, it’s an impossible place to work. …… It’s an organization that is, in my opinion, dysfunctional”
those are words Al will NEVER FORGIVE.
January 6th, 2010 at 2:47 pm
As pride goeth before the fall, how’s the view from the abyss there L’il Rico?
January 6th, 2010 at 2:47 pm
Gannon can help out Cable by throwing a fastball at Randy Hanson’s twig & berries while working on mechanics with D-Smooth
January 6th, 2010 at 2:48 pm
DKnight007 Says:
January 6th, 2010 at 2:44 pm
John Herrera is one of the diseases that need to be eradicated from the Raiders Alameda Facility and from the “organization” in general!
Herrera knows if there is TRUE change within those offices and then his sorry azz is out of a job!
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Herrera is a talking head, a puppet.
Everything he says, to anyone, is scripted.
Whether him, the Jack in the Box guy, whoever..they’re simply the messenger.
When he’s gone, Al will have another stooge in, by lunch time.
January 6th, 2010 at 2:50 pm
DKnight007 Says:
January 6th, 2010 at 2:44 pm
Herrera knows if there is TRUE change within those offices and then his sorry azz is out of a job!
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Cronyism is partiality to long-standing friends, especially by appointing them to positions of authority, regardless of their qualifications. Hence, cronyism is CONTRARY IN PRACTICE TO THE PRINCIPLES OF MERITOCRACY. Cronyism exists when the appointer and the beneficiary are in social contact; often, the appointer is inadequate to hold his or her own job or position of authority, and for this reason the appointer appoints individuals who will not try to weaken him or her, or express views contrary to those of the appointer.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cronyism
January 6th, 2010 at 2:51 pm
HIRE Mike Waufle as Assistant Head Coach/Defensive Line coach and keep Dwayne Board as his Assistant.
January 6th, 2010 at 2:51 pm
miketyson Says:
January 6th, 2010 at 2:13 pm
Russell scored a 24 in the Wonderlic Test
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24 out of 50?
right about the same number as his passer rating.
Cool.
January 6th, 2010 at 2:52 pm
Chief Executive – Amy Trask
Senior Executive – John Herrera
Pro Player Personnel – Keith Rowen
Salary Cap Administrator – Tom Delaney
Director of College Scouting – Jon Kingdon
I wonder if any of these people will be retained whenever Al passes away (or finally hires a GM) ???
January 6th, 2010 at 2:54 pm
KoolKell Says:
January 6th, 2010 at 2:09 pm
Aig Says:
January 6th, 2010 at 2:03 pm
schytt,
Al would have returned the phonecall if Gannon would not air it in public. Now Al will never return the phone call. Gannon should have known better than that when it comes to Al. Unless, this is all a publicity stunt for Gannon, which I doubt.
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So all the slogans, Just Win Baby, Committment To Excellence is just a bunch of BS?
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None of those are Al’s. Of course they’re BS.
Phil Villipiano and Winston Churchill intend on kicking Al’s ass for even pasting them on the team brochure.
January 6th, 2010 at 2:54 pm
What more can Gannon do now to prove that his critical comments about how this organization is ran was tough love? He’s one of the few people, with a brain and a backbone, at least, to work for the Raiders. Get it, Al and Herrera? The organization is a joke. And it’s killing a lot of former players to see it go down in flames like this. BTW..where is Stabler? Howie Long? Matt Millen? Sure, these guys keep their mouths shut. They also go nowhere near Oakland. Gannon spouts off, yet he’s also willing to do something about it. Who’s the real Raider?
January 6th, 2010 at 2:54 pm
HIRE Mike Waufle as Assistant Head Coach/Defensive Line coach and keep Dwayne Board as his Assistant.
***
Waufle is an excellent football coach, but so is Board. gotta have players that execute though.
Kelly & Warren at DT and Morrison at MLB aren’t getting the job done vs the run
January 6th, 2010 at 2:55 pm
KoolKell Says:
January 6th, 2010 at 2:50 pm
DKnight007 Says:
January 6th, 2010 at 2:44 pm
Herrera knows if there is TRUE change within those offices and then his sorry azz is out of a job!
——————————
Cronyism is partiality to long-standing friends, especially by appointing them to positions of authority, regardless of their qualifications. Hence, cronyism is CONTRARY IN PRACTICE TO THE PRINCIPLES OF MERITOCRACY. Cronyism exists when the appointer and the beneficiary are in social contact; often, the appointer is inadequate to hold his or her own job or position of authority, and for this reason the appointer appoints individuals who will not try to weaken him or her, or express views contrary to those of the appointer.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cronyism
^^^^^^^^^
Yep….as I have been saying for a awhile now. John Hererra is definitely one of Al Davis’ lap dog CRONIES.
Who is afraid of TRUE change, cause it will cost him his job. He knows his sorry azz will never work in the NFL again if a REAL GM and a REAL Head Coach are hired to turn the ship around.
Pathetic isn’t it?
January 6th, 2010 at 2:55 pm
Great point by AlDavis stopwatch.
Richochet-love your humor. I’m new to this site n blogs in general
but u and spellcheck are some of my favorites.
Also like Florida Pete. Chris in NY.
January 6th, 2010 at 2:57 pm
Forgot
“I’m not worthy”
January 6th, 2010 at 2:57 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
January 6th, 2010 at 2:52 pm
Chief Executive – Amy Trask
Senior Executive – John Herrera
Pro Player Personnel – Keith Rowen
Salary Cap Administrator – Tom Delaney
Director of College Scouting – Jon Kingdon
I wonder if any of these people will be retained whenever Al passes away (or finally hires a GM) ???
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oh man..you don’t just insist on painting a bullseye on your forehead, you take the damn arrow, and jam it in, just to make sure…
I told you..you need to follow the Raiders..just a little bit…
You think any of those are BELOW A NEW GM? lol..
You think that Al would allow ANYONE to fire any of the above?
Hell, Al overruled Lance/Lame/Lane when he tried to fire one of his assistants…as Al stated to all, ‘THE ONLY PERSON WHO FIRES ANYONE AROUND HERE IS ME.”
You would know that..if you actually followed the team.
January 6th, 2010 at 2:59 pm
Dear Rich Gannon,
After reading the comments here, you shouldn’t come back to Oakland. Let the team burn. Do what the other former players are doing, like Howie Long and Matt Millen. Just sit back and laugh on the inside at what’s happening to Al. Neither the Raiders or their retarded fans deserve you, Rich.
January 6th, 2010 at 2:59 pm
mack-madden Says:
January 6th, 2010 at 2:55 pm
Great point by AlDavis stopwatch.
Richochet-love your humor. I’m new to this site n blogs in general
but u and spellcheck are some of my favorites.
Also like Florida Pete. Chris in NY.
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Your czeck is in the male.
Oh..and Florida Pete? He does yardwork…his hedges are to die for.
Call him…collect.
January 6th, 2010 at 2:59 pm
Jim Michalczik was given the biggest group of clowns to work with. This is Cable’s buddy too …
I hope Cable doesn’t hang him out to dry if he’s retained. Cable needs to take full responsibility for the personnel moves (or lack there of) along the OL and do something about it this offseason!
January 6th, 2010 at 3:00 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
January 6th, 2010 at 2:59 pm
Dear Rich Gannon,
Neither the Raiders or their retarded fans deserve you, Rich.
====================
Don’t sell yourself short.
You deserve him…and so much more.
January 6th, 2010 at 3:00 pm
5pm in Podunk. later gents!
January 6th, 2010 at 3:01 pm
Cronyism as opposed to Sycophantism as opposed to Oligarchism as opposed to Plutocracism – oh crap, I was digressing into how all power structures of government and corporations (as the NFL) are run. Sorry KoolKell, you were presupposing that the Raiders are unique in this regard. My bad.
January 6th, 2010 at 3:03 pm
The Return of Godliness Says:
January 6th, 2010 at 1:39 pm
Gannon should have won the bowl in 2000 if Gruden didnt change gameplan saturday night
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??????????
The Raiders Bucs Super Bowl was the 2002-03 season.
In 200 the 12-4 Raiders destroyed the Dolphins and lost to the eventual super bowl champion Ravens when fat azz Tony Siragusa pancaked Gannon, so unless it was Gruden’s plan to have Gannon throw himself under fat boy, you don’t know what the he–ll you’re talking about par usual’…
January 6th, 2010 at 3:05 pm
the OL and do something about it this offseason!
127.Richochet Says:
January 6th, 2010 at 3:00 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
January 6th, 2010 at 2:59 pm
Dear Rich Gannon,
Neither the Raiders or their retarded fans deserve you, Rich.
====================
Don’t sell yourself short.
You deserve him…and so much more
==========================
Ricochet.
F—k you.
January 6th, 2010 at 3:07 pm
The Return of Godliness Says:
January 6th, 2010 at 2:07 pm
Russell cant be helped. He dont want it nor is he smart enough
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LMFAO…the irony of the above…one idiot calling out another idiot.
“He dont want it”??
Good one, Gomer.
January 6th, 2010 at 3:07 pm
Richochet Says:
January 6th, 2010 at 2:57 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
January 6th, 2010 at 2:52 pm
Chief Executive – Amy Trask
Senior Executive – John Herrera
Pro Player Personnel – Keith Rowen
Salary Cap Administrator – Tom Delaney
Director of College Scouting – Jon Kingdon
I wonder if any of these people will be retained whenever Al passes away (or finally hires a GM) ???
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oh man..you don’t just insist on painting a bullseye on your forehead, you take the damn arrow, and jam it in, just to make sure…
I told you..you need to follow the Raiders..just a little bit…
You think any of those are BELOW A NEW GM? lol..
You think that Al would allow ANYONE to fire any of the above?
Hell, Al overruled Lance/Lame/Lane when he tried to fire one of his assistants…as Al stated to all, ‘THE ONLY PERSON WHO FIRES ANYONE AROUND HERE IS ME.”
You would know that..if you actually followed the team.
^^^^^^^^^
Only one that would stick around is Amy.
Otherwise the REAL GM and REAL Head Coach would clean house!
Hence why the people listed above whisper into Al Davis ear and tell him everything is just fine with the “organization” and team.
They are LOSERS just trying to keep their jobs.
And why they are LOSERS you ask?
The Raiders record the last 7 years speaks volumes people along with the lack of a REAL GM/Personnel Head and the constant ridiculous coaching turnover!
January 6th, 2010 at 3:12 pm
The way ALL those play offs and eventually the Super Bowl ended was such a massive disapointment to some dominant seasons has many fans forgetting how incredibly AWESOME this Raiders team was under Gruden Gannon.
IF Gannon hadn’t been robbed by fat boy Siragusa’s illegal tackle and crushing that knocked him out of the 2000 playoffs (”Goose” was fined for the hit) IF the Raiders hadn’t taken one for the country after 9/11 so the “Patriots” could win and gotten “Tuck”ed out of the SB in 2001, and IF Callahan hadn’t f’ed us with a lame duck game plan in the Super Bowl, Gannon’s legacy would be entirely diffent and NONE of us would be treating him like a leper.
We were robbed of our Lombardi’s, but Gannon was robbed of his rightful legacy as a truely great QB who had a remarkable run thats completely under appreciated by some un educated or jaded so called Raider fans…
January 6th, 2010 at 3:12 pm
Gotcha, DKnight..key word is ‘REAL GM’.
But..you and I both know Al will never have a REAL GM.
Al’s minions are also token heads.
Scout? lol…”HEY AL, HERE’S MY SUGGESTION”..we know how that fares in the draft..
Salary cap Tom: “We can spend 70 million this offseason. 70…al?? AL..I SAID 70, NOT 270..geez..65 million JUST to that Walker guy?
Al: “My bad..HEY..Kwame Harris is available..call him”
The Puppet Regime
January 6th, 2010 at 3:14 pm
Nnamdi,
Fat Tony was a major element. The Dorsett-Pope shyte was the disaster.
January 6th, 2010 at 3:14 pm
In 2000 with Gannon as QB the Raiders scored 272 points in the last 8 games of the season.
In 2009 the Raiders scored 197 points in the last 16 games of the season.
January 6th, 2010 at 3:14 pm
I trust Gannon more than anyone else in this organization right now.
He’s got more football IQ than anyone in our front office currently and would be the kind of guy that would not accept JMs lackadaisical approach.
Gannon was a true professional,something JM has shown NO ability to achieve.
January 6th, 2010 at 3:16 pm
Rico,
to paraphrase Lao Tzu, “He who cuts and pastes to denegrate much, knows little”.
January 6th, 2010 at 3:16 pm
Al will not contact Gannon. Al does not want him in around, can’t look him in the face after what Herrera said about him to the press. Herrera hasn’t a thought of his own, those he gets from AD.
January 6th, 2010 at 3:17 pm
I honestly believe that Gruden and Gannon would love to help turn it around in Oakland…..there’s just that one thing keeping that from being a possibility………………………………………………………………………………..
January 6th, 2010 at 3:19 pm
Please for the love of god, do yourselves a favor and watch the raiders ravens game on nfl.com. This will show you why no.2 will be here next training camp. You are able to see in this game , its not enough to say he looked good. Any time he was not under extreme pressure he did everything people say he cant do. He was on time , on target, he even moved in the pocket and made plays as the pocket broke down. His only turnovers was when he was getting hammered, twice from the blind side. Give him an offensive line, receivers that catch, and a running game and the sky is the limit for this kid. The fact that he won in kc, and denver cardiac style, and he was robbed by his own defense in sd, im sure merrit another shot. Add this to what he looked liked sunday, you have to bring him back. He looks like a guy that does care, hopefully his work ethic this off season will come close to his natural talent. This kid maybe the most talented qb we have ever seen in silver and black. Dont run him off, hold his feet to the fire and encourage him to do the right things. I would love to see some one teach him how to handle the off season, it seems fry and grads have had an impact in the way he handles the work week. This is evident in the last few games of the year. Sunday he made the simple throws, the tough throws, and the throws 99% of qb’s can only dream of. Watch sundays game then honestly ask your self, is he worth it? sunday he looked a lot like the kid I expected coming out of lsu.
January 6th, 2010 at 3:20 pm
Gannon just came in and improved every year for 4-5 years. When he maxed out, he was at the top of his game.
A QB makes all the difference in the world. Until we got another one, like a Rich Gannon, we will never win.
January 6th, 2010 at 3:23 pm
Gruden will never be back.
January 6th, 2010 at 3:29 pm
I will never let Check Breshanan live down that blitz call on the 96 yard Sharpe TD.
Up 3-0 at home, 3rd and 15 or something like that, he blitzes C-Wood and leaves Pope, who could never cover, on Sharpe and Dorsett blows it as well.
We were set to get good field position in a, low-scoring field positon game.
Woulda,coulda, shoulda…
January 6th, 2010 at 3:29 pm
A place of time and space =)
January 6th, 2010 at 3:29 pm
142. Mistic1: In your corner man. Been sayin it all year, give him the help he needs and he’s got the talent to do some amazing things.
One thing he doesn’t have now is the ability to lead by example and make players around him play harder and better then they are.
Gannon did, but he had Brown and Rice to help encourage the others.
Russell’s got…hmmm. Cornell…no, uhh…Farg…no…hmm
I shouldn’t post right after games cuz I’ve ripped Russell a time or two, but for the most part,I’m in this kids corner. I think he’s going to be a great QB someday, I just hope its for the Raiders and not Denver…
January 6th, 2010 at 3:31 pm
Well It’s official Charlie Weis is going to be the Offensive Coordinator of the Chiefs. This is not good as he is a very good Coordinator. If we do in fact make a coaching change I hope we either go with Harbaugh or Billick.
January 6th, 2010 at 3:31 pm
are you able to watch the whole game on nfl.com mistic?
January 6th, 2010 at 3:31 pm
It was the dream scenario that year.
Vs Jay Fiedler at home.
Vs Trent Dilfer at home.
Vs Kerry Collins in the SB.
doesn’t get any easier than that.
January 6th, 2010 at 3:33 pm
M Lonetree Says:
January 6th, 2010 at 3:16 pm
Rico,
to paraphrase Lao Tzu, “He who cuts and pastes to denegrate much, knows little”.
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Good post. Very good indeed! Kudos.
January 6th, 2010 at 3:34 pm
Gannon replaced by Bobby Hoying in that Ravens Raiders Championship game…what a dark day…the kid did ok against one of the toughest defenses in history and actually moved the ball, but to no avail…
January 6th, 2010 at 3:37 pm
Why waste time with gruden gannon fantasies it won’t happen. With a good o- line and running game we will have something to build on. Although I love the idea of someone helping no.2 this off season so he hits the ground running. This is even more important with a new coach/ system coming in.
January 6th, 2010 at 3:40 pm
Mistic, Cable is staying
January 6th, 2010 at 3:41 pm
RaiderD,
the entire game is on NFL. Com 24 hours after the game is played. Gotta love it.
January 6th, 2010 at 3:41 pm
CaptainBlack Says:
January 6th, 2010 at 3:40 pm
Mistic, Cable is staying
_________
I hope not.
January 6th, 2010 at 3:43 pm
Mistic,
where do i find it?
all i see are highlights
January 6th, 2010 at 3:44 pm
I would be curious to know if Raider management takes an critical view of their performance behind closed doors, or do they try and fool themselves like they attempt to do with the public.
January 6th, 2010 at 3:45 pm
Dakota, neither do I
January 6th, 2010 at 3:45 pm
oh i found it, but u have to pay for a subscription.
January 6th, 2010 at 3:45 pm
“y JOSH DUBOW
AP Sports Writer
ALAMEDA, Calif. —
……….Raiders senior executive John Herrera declined to comment on Gannon’s offer.
….Herrera did respond to a report that Russell was at a Las Vegas casino the day after being excused from an end-of-season team meeting for personal reasons. Herrera said Russell’s absence was excused for legitimate reasons and the team had “no issue” with him being in Las Vegas.
The coaching staff is spending this week evaluating the team following a 5-11 season. Cable will meet with Davis next Monday to discuss his fate as coach.”
))))))))))))))))))))))))))))
Looks like Al is backing Russell again…bad news for all of us…including Cable.
I want Cable AND Russell gone.
January 6th, 2010 at 3:46 pm
As much as I can’t stand cable, at least if he comes back no.2 will be in a position to prove himself. Simply besuase he won’t have to learn a whole new system…. again. Don’t look now but the kid might be getting it.
January 6th, 2010 at 3:47 pm
Cap’n Black,
Cable staying? you mean delaying or stopping or tacking or ceasing or being like a corset? I hope he is in Vegas doing his imitation of a corset.
January 6th, 2010 at 3:48 pm
M Lonetree Says:
January 6th, 2010 at 3:01 pm
Cronyism as opposed to Sycophantism as opposed to Oligarchism as opposed to Plutocracism – oh crap, I was digressing into how all power structures of government and corporations (as the NFL) are run. Sorry KoolKell, you were presupposing that the Raiders are unique in this regard. My bad.
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It’s very easy and ignorant to say, oh well everybody is doing it. When it’s very obvious not everybody is losing at the rate the Raiders are.
January 6th, 2010 at 3:48 pm
Why would the Raiders allow JaMarcus swoop to Vegas, while the rest of the team remained for final physicals and a team meeting? I guess he played so well he deserved a break.
January 6th, 2010 at 3:49 pm
NFL. Com has it in the game rewind section. Your local team’s most recent game is free. Just click watch now.
January 6th, 2010 at 3:51 pm
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/01/06/charlie-weis-is-joining-the-chiefs/
and the RAIDERS still do nothing
January 6th, 2010 at 3:52 pm
Mistic, what system? Cable’s system? I didn’t know he had one? I thought the Raiders system was just to go long.
January 6th, 2010 at 3:53 pm
M Lonetree Says:
January 6th, 2010 at 3:16 pm
Rico,
to paraphrase Lao Tzu, “He who cuts and pastes to denegrate much, knows little”.
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See, this is why I cut n paste facts to support my arguments.
Any dumbass can sit in here and lie.
January 6th, 2010 at 3:53 pm
I really wish I were preparing to watch the Raiders in the playoffs this weekend, or savoring a bye because Oakland had a killer W-L record.
January 6th, 2010 at 3:54 pm
Gannon could be a good coach and a great help to JaMarcus, but he’s delusional if he thinks Al is going to welcome him with open arms after just trying to lock him out of the building a few short weeks ago.
January 6th, 2010 at 3:55 pm
Mistic,
I tried clicking that and it tells me its restricted access and that i have to pay a subscription.
January 6th, 2010 at 3:57 pm
That was quick. Charlie Weis was unemployed for like a month. Not even long enough to file a claim with the unemployment office.
January 6th, 2010 at 4:00 pm
Nnamdi21 Says:
January 6th, 2010 at 3:05 pm
the OL and do something about it this offseason!
127.Richochet Says:
January 6th, 2010 at 3:00 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
January 6th, 2010 at 2:59 pm
Dear Rich Gannon,
Neither the Raiders or their retarded fans deserve you, Rich.
====================
Don’t sell yourself short.
You deserve him…and so much more
==========================
Ricochet.
F—k you.
=================
LMFAO…awwwww…what’s the matter, pumpkin?
You still all butt hurt from me detailing you whining like a little slapped on redheaded girl about how JR was being mis-treated?
dude..what can I say? that was a classic full blown meltdown.
You can see you were crying, lol…”cable isn’t being fair..he’s not..HE’S NOT!!!!”..
Two minutes later “I hate Cable. He set up JR. JR is GREAT..GREAT I TELL YOU”
Now? You’re stuck, eating crow.
Yeah,..you sorryass joke of a man..your mancrush on JR has you looking the fool, both online and with your friends.
Between you, priest, and Smac.. I can’t tell who’s the slowest, or the easiest.
You, however, win the prize for whining the most..hands down.
congrats, pumpkin..you deserve it.
January 6th, 2010 at 4:00 pm
The raiders are giving this kid every chance to make it. You paid him a ton of money and he is supremley talented. You must do everything in you power to help him turn it around. Besides he is not a guy that beats women, gets arrested, or fights pit bulls. Once no.2 decides and learns how to handle the off season like a pro, look out. If I were Davis I would hire a consultant to deal with no.2. Let him have a few weeks to chill, then bring him back to alameda, to prepare. This would include a physical training regimen, as well as a daily study session in order to know the offense backward and forward.
January 6th, 2010 at 4:04 pm
CaptainBlack Says:
January 6th, 2010 at 3:16 pm
Al will not contact Gannon. Al does not want him in around, can’t look him in the face after what Herrera said about him to the press. Herrera hasn’t a thought of his own, those he gets from AD.
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Way to copy exactly what I said just above you, Cappydork.
good job.
Never let anyone say you can’t connect the dots.
Doesn’t matter if you can or not..just don’t let them say it.
January 6th, 2010 at 4:04 pm
They had better take it, they need all the help they can get!
Big Al better do it just to make the fans happy it would be a nice olive branch anyway.
January 6th, 2010 at 4:05 pm
RaiderD,
I don’t know, are you in the bay area? I have watched every blacked game this year, and just watched the raven game. No2 reminded me of the reason I loved this draft pick.
January 6th, 2010 at 4:07 pm
im in the monterey bay area, i think thats what the problem is.
January 6th, 2010 at 4:08 pm
I smell shyte. It’s either from Richochet’s mouth or his mother’s legs are open.
January 6th, 2010 at 4:09 pm
http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/Wilson-Holmgren-weighs-in-on-state-of-the-team.html
from Holmgren….
On how free agency and the draft will be handled: “That also remains to be seen. Right now, I have a lot of titles. I could do it all if I wanted to. I don’t want to. I am going to hire a general manager. I know you guys know this, very few teams, none that I’ve been associated with, with high powered personnel people or presidents or whatever you want to call them, does the guy come in, pound the desk and say, ‘We are taking this guy and I don’t care what anybody thinks.’
“There’s one team I can think of that does that, but no one else. If we have a general manager, and I will be involved, absolutely involved, but as to actually who says, ‘We are going to pick this guy on draft day,’? Right now, I couldn’t tell you.”
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Gee, I wonder who that one team is that he speaks of? LOL!
January 6th, 2010 at 4:10 pm
Nnamdi21 Says:
January 6th, 2010 at 3:29 pm
142. Mistic1: In your corner man. Been sayin it all year, give him the help he needs and he’s got the talent to do some amazing things.
I shouldn’t post right after games cuz I’ve ripped Russell a time or two, but for the most part,I’m in this kids corner. I think he’s going to be a great QB someday, I just hope its for the Raiders and not Denver…
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See? lol..
Take your lips on JR’s sac, you obviously infatuated mama’s boy.
“JR has the talent to do some amazing things”?? ROFLMFAO..dude..you have any idea how ignorant that is?
Talent? HE’S GOT A MASSIVE ARM..that’s it, you fool. He has ZERO positive skills..none..and here you are running that ignorant crap?
I told you..your melt downs are legendary, and your manlove is embarrassing.
And “I think he’s going to be a great qb someday”??
THAT MAKES YOU OFFICIALLY DUMBER THAN COTTON.
He will never be a mediocre qb..much less a great qb.
but..here’s MY GUARANTEE..YOU’LL BE ON HERE, WITH PRIEST, AND SMAC, MAKING WHINING EXCUSE AFTER EXCUSE ON WHY IT’S NOT JR’S FAULT THAT HE’S OUT OF FOOTBALL…
That I guarantee.
Oh..and here’s another one..because you’re so embarrassed, you’ll change your name.
When you do? Know I’ll be STILL LAUGHING AT YOU for doing exactly what I said you would.
now, get back to your mancrush.
January 6th, 2010 at 4:12 pm
Richochet your act is old. You are now banished to cyber prison. Off with you, boy! But before you go, come over so I can punch you in the gut. Now STFU
January 6th, 2010 at 4:14 pm
Trade McFadden and the # 8 for the #1 and draft Suh.
January 6th, 2010 at 4:15 pm
aig Says:
January 6th, 2010 at 3:33 pm
M Lonetree Says:
January 6th, 2010 at 3:16 pm
Rico,
to paraphrase Lao Tzu, “He who cuts and pastes to denegrate much, knows little”.
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Good post. Very good indeed! Kudos.
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Yep..AGAIN…LMFAO.
Uh….MORON?????
M “I have no balls” lonetree is whining about me “quoting” someone and then YOU QUOTE HI, AND SAY GOOD POST????
Are you so damn stupid?
think about it.
Take your time, lol…then go hit yourself between the eyes with a 2 x 4, and say “I TRULY AM DUMBER THAN COTTON”.
Repeat 3 times.
You dumbass.
January 6th, 2010 at 4:16 pm
CaptainBlack Says:
January 6th, 2010 at 4:12 pm
Richochet your act is old. You are now banished to cyber prison. Off with you, boy! But before you go, come over so I can punch you in the gut. Now STFU
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In other words, you have no word.
Yeah..I know.
Remember when your Mom told you don’t drop out in the 6th grade?
It’s coming back to haunt you now, isn’t it?
January 6th, 2010 at 4:19 pm
Didn’t I tell you to STFU?
January 6th, 2010 at 4:19 pm
Punch you in the fluckin mouth
January 6th, 2010 at 4:20 pm
How the hell is Gannon gonna help Jamarcus? Is he gonna give him a kidney, a heart, and a brain? no? then Rich can’t help the fat bum…
January 6th, 2010 at 4:20 pm
Gannon is a class act and would be a very positive contribution to the Raiders. The ultimate revenge: Gannon as GM and Gruden as HC.
January 6th, 2010 at 4:21 pm
“I TRULY AM DUMBER THAN COTTON”…lol!
January 6th, 2010 at 4:23 pm
Gannon was a noodle armed journey man with run of the mill talent at best. Before he was a raider he also was prone to bone headed mistakes. This is why he couldn’t beat out Sean Salisbury, and I think it was Elvis grbac in kc. I will never say he was a great qb. However he had an incredible work ethic, and was always prepared. He new everyones assignment on every play. This part of leadership is what no2 has yet to learn. This is done in the off season. This may not happen, but don’t put it past the old man. Davis will always do what you least expect. I would be happy with anyone Davis brings in to fill this role. Even Gannon.
January 6th, 2010 at 4:24 pm
Gotta love Herrera ripping on Gannon when 9 years ago he was giving Rich western style hand jobs at Al’s discretion…
January 6th, 2010 at 4:26 pm
# los raiders de don rober Says:
January 6th, 2010 at 4:20 pm
How the hell is Gannon gonna help Jamarcus? Is he gonna give him a kidney, a heart, and a brain? no? then Rich can’t help the fat bum…
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Ha! that was funny
January 6th, 2010 at 4:32 pm
Charlie Weis to the Chiefs per PFT.
Fire Cable!
Cut JaLoser!
Go Lakers!
Good Night Gracie,
Good Night George. Loved Burns and Allen reruns.
January 6th, 2010 at 4:33 pm
Al does do things we least expect. He hired Norval Turner, Art Shell and Tom Walsh; he traded Gruden because Gruden wanted a little more cash and some independence; he fired Tom Flores and ran off Madden. Nice!
January 6th, 2010 at 4:39 pm
Hey Richocrap (a.k.a. Pile-o-Crap)
Let me ask you something chipmunk. . .
If the Raiders, with Al Davis & Tom Cable, go 9-7 or 10-6 next season and make the playoffs for the first time in 8 years, what will you say at that point?
That is exactly what is going to happen next season.
I don’t know who our starting QB will be and I really don’t care. But, the results will be good.
And I truly can’t wait to see you squirm like the little biotch that you are.
January 6th, 2010 at 4:40 pm
anyone of you who doesn’t respect rich gannon and what he did for this organization should turn in your card. the 5-6 years he played in oakland he was arguably the best and most consistent QB in the league. a lot of you meatheads forget who his bad super bowl performance was against. had the raiders played ANY OTHER team besides the gruden-led bucs, you hacks who rip on him would be singing his praises. you are probably the same guys who thought kerry collins was awesome.
i’ll take a smart, hard-working, “noodle-armed” QB like gannon over jamarcus “i-can-throw-the-ball-80-yards” russell 100 times out of a 100
January 6th, 2010 at 4:41 pm
The only part of my post above that is yet to be determined is Cable still being here.
I have no idea if he’s gonna get canned or not, but, I hope he’ll still be here.
He’s a good coach. Maybe not a great play-caller but a good head coach.
January 6th, 2010 at 4:43 pm
Silver-N-Smac, nobody wants to see Cable back. You didn’t either a few days ago, so why the change?
January 6th, 2010 at 4:43 pm
MTraidernation Says:
January 6th, 2010 at 4:40 pm
anyone of you who doesn’t respect rich gannon and what he did for this organization should turn in your card. the 5-6 years he played in oakland he was arguably the best and most consistent QB in the league. a lot of you meatheads forget who his bad super bowl performance was against. had the raiders played ANY OTHER team besides the gruden-led bucs, you hacks who rip on him would be singing his praises. you are probably the same guys who thought kerry collins was awesome.
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MT – you said it.
These are the same clowns that were cheering inside when Gannon lay on the field with a busted up neck.
At last, they got what they had been wishing for all along. . . .
The Great Kerry Collins
January 6th, 2010 at 4:44 pm
KoolKell Says:
January 6th, 2010 at 3:53 pm
M Lonetree Says:
January 6th, 2010 at 3:16 pm
Rico,
to paraphrase Lao Tzu, “He who cuts and pastes to denegrate much, knows little”.
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See, this is why I cut n paste facts to support my arguments.
Any dumbass can sit in here and lie.
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Actually LonePeanut is confused.
He uses that to me, too damn stupid to realize I’m not cutting and pasting, perse, but “quoting” others comments.
Now…THIS IS A CUT AND PASTE of info
http://espn.go.com/nfl/attendance
RK TEAM GMS TOTAL AVERAGE
1 Dallas 8 718,055
2 Washington 8 678,352
3 NY Giants 8 629,615
4 NY Jets 8 616,420
5 Denver 8 600,928 75,116
6 Carolina 8 586,314 73,289
7 Baltimore 8 568,660 71,082
8 Green Bay 8 565,666 70,708
9 Houston 8 564,864 70,608
10 Buffalo 7 490,898 70,128
11 New Orleans 8 560,840 70,105
12 San Francisco 8 557,856 69,732
13 Philadelphia 8 553,152 69,144
14 Tennessee 8 553,144 69,143
15 Cleveland 8 551,110 68,888
16 New England 8 550,048 68,756
17 Atlanta 8 545,389 68,173
18 San Diego 8 540,345 67,543
19 Miami 8 540,342 67,542
20 Kansas City 8 540,114 67,514
21 Seattle 8 539,141 67,392
22 Indianapolis 8 532,398 66,549
23 Cincinnati 8 512,032 64,004
24 Minnesota 8 510,203 63,775
25 Pittsburgh 8 507,882 63,485
26 Arizona 8 505,143 63,142
27 Tampa Bay 7 440,940 62,991
28 Chicago 8 498,000 62,250
29 St. Louis 8 441,901 55,237
30 Jacksonville 8 397,214 49,651
31 Detroit 8 395,162 49,395
32 Oakland 8 354,276 44,284
LAST PLACE IN ATTENDENCE..damn…so much for the idea that there is no more loyal fan out there than Raider fans.
January 6th, 2010 at 4:44 pm
To say no.2 has no talent is just ridiculous. Spoken like a person that has no clue about football. He has been illprepared, and needs to work harder. These are legitimate knocks. Talent is not the only ingridient to to greatness, but it is a requirement. Unfortunately for Russell his lack of prep and conditioning, coupled with complete breakdowns by the o- line , receiver Corp, and running game , have conspired to make russel look much worse than he actually is. For people that have only watched no.2 this year I’m afraid you really havnt seen what this guy is truly capable of.
January 6th, 2010 at 4:45 pm
Mistic, and you have seen the greatness of JaMarcus?
January 6th, 2010 at 4:46 pm
Saraider Says:
January 6th, 2010 at 4:14 pm
Trade McFadden and the # 8 for the #1 and draft Suh.
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that’s actually a pretty good idea….which is why the “braintrust” will NEVER approve it. al doesn’t like “can’t miss” prospects that every other team would give a left testicle for. he goes for the rogue, off the board picks that other teams have as 2nd rounders or free agents. plus, Suh doesn’t play DB, so there’s positively no way al takes him in the 1st round.
January 6th, 2010 at 4:47 pm
CaptainBlack Says:
January 6th, 2010 at 4:19 pm
Didn’t I tell you to STFU?
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CaptainBlack Says:
January 6th, 2010 at 4:19 pm
Punch you in the fluckin mouth
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Looking at you post gives me an idea.
We should use you as the poster boy for “SEE WHAT HAPPENS TO YOUR BRAIN ON DRUGS”
4:19 post.
immediately followed by another 4:19 post.
What? brain couldn’t grasp all of that at one time? lol..
Hey..you’re one of those people that hears a joke, and then laughs the next day…aren’t you?
You can give me your answer…..
….tomorrow
January 6th, 2010 at 4:48 pm
Cable’s O-line was trble; his play calling was trble; some of his coaching selections were trble; his O-line player selections have been trble. Bottom line, Cable is trble!
January 6th, 2010 at 4:50 pm
CaptainBlack. . . .
What exactly are you referring to?
I’ve supported Cable all season long and I still do.
I’ve said that I like his work ethic and no-nonsense communication with players. That gains the respect of the players when they know the guy isn’t full of shiot when he speaks.
I’ve also said that while I actually like his usually-aggressive playcalling, I think he gets way too cute and over-thinks things too often. And because of this, I have no problem stripping him of play-calling duties.
As I’ve said before:
Give me:
1. Half-way decent QB play.
2. One big, nasty run-stuffing ML.
3. One big, fat, hole-stuffing nose tackle.
4. Two good offensive linemen on the right side.
Those are 5 new players (4 if Gradkowski is the real deal).
You give me those things and this is a playoff team.
With Tom Cable.
You fire Cable and you gotta implement a whole new damn system again – and we’ve seen how far that keeps getting us.
Hell yeah Cable should be brought back.
If he’s not. . . .well, life goes on and I hope we bring in someone better.
But don’t give me a new coach just for the sake of bringing in a new coach.
January 6th, 2010 at 4:50 pm
Hey Rachocrap:
From last night:
# Silver-n-Smac Says:
January 5th, 2010 at 7:06 pm
Hey RicoCrap:
You’re a freakin’ imbecile. How you can possibly compare any of those other owners to Al Davis shows just how much an ass you are. If there was a legit comparison to make, your point would be valid.
Problem is: There is nothing normal about the Raiders. There is nothing about the way they operate that makes them even resemble the operations of other professional sports franchises. And if you call yourself a Raider fan and don’t realize that, then you’re a complete fool.
So again. . . .yes. . . .if you bought the Oakland Raiders (owned by Al Davis) Koolaid at some point in your life, you have 3 choices:
1. Either acknowledge that the man will not change his ways. Doesn’t mean you have to like it. But you also acknowledge that he’s won before and believe he’ll win again. . . in his own, weird, twisted manner.
2. Be a “go-getter” and create a freakin’ billboard if that gets you off. If that makes you feel like you’re important, hey. . .enjoy. You can then go back to feeding your hamster.
3. Or. . .if you’re just so bitter that you sit here and cry like a little girl every day about how we’re not going anywhere until Al Davis is dead, then as I said – go away and do something that makes you happy.
Whatever that is.
Once again – go ahead and continue to twist my words however you want.
And as for your posting my quoted words earlier, in your serial, creepy way, yeah. . . . .keep on reading it ass-howle. If you can’t stand Al Davis, you chose the wrong team.
Don’t compare this to a freakin’ revolution. We’re not gonna storm the streets and stop genocide or discrimination.
This is just football dumbass.
So if you can’t stand the dude that makes every single decision that affects this particular football team, then make a choice.
You choose to keep biotching like the little biotch that you are?
Cool.
Go snuggle with Koolkell.
January 6th, 2010 at 4:51 pm
So let’s say that Big Al forces more JaMarcus on the team next season. At what point does the offensive line start “accidentally” missing blitz pickups and having the QB take on some collateral damage? That group of 5 has the power to save the Raiders from Al in a most interesting way.
January 6th, 2010 at 4:54 pm
#190, Couldn’t have said it any better. To all you Gannon haters out there, name me a Raider QB who in the last 20 years has had the success he had. Gannon would be a positive addition to this franchise!
January 6th, 2010 at 4:54 pm
Hey Rachocrap:
Do you have a journal at home with archives of posts by your favorite bloggers?
Or do you post your favorite posts all over your bedroom walls?
Like my post about liking the “image” of the Oakland Raiders?
Is that one on your walls too “cupcake”?
You’re hella creepy dude.
Like serial creepy.
January 6th, 2010 at 4:54 pm
I am not a pro scout, but I’m not sure Jamarcus is as talented as some people think he is. The easiest way to spot talent, IMO, is when the player is surrounded by crap, yet he stands out. Players like Barry Sanders, Deion Sanders, early years Lawrence Taylor and Steve Young, Bo, Marcus, Nnamdi, Elway… There’s a ton of intangibles that go into doing something nobody else can do, which in my book is talent. Throwing the ball 80 yards is not talent, thats a circus trick.
January 6th, 2010 at 4:55 pm
Anyone out there that is actually ripping on Gannon deserves the 7 years of hell we’ve recently endured.
January 6th, 2010 at 4:56 pm
# RaiderRockstar Says:
January 6th, 2010 at 2:42 pm
I’d love to help JaMarcus Russell if he wants help.
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did he want Cable, Tollner or Hackett’s help?
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He was always looking for someone to go to the bank for him to cash his paycheck. He was always looking for someone to wash his Bentley. He was always looking for someone to to do the gardening and to take out the trash after his possee showed up every night.
He doesn’t understand why he’s on everybody’s schit list. He’s doing his part in creating jobs & energizing the economy by buying rad rags, bling and other crap.
January 6th, 2010 at 4:56 pm
Gannon would be very positive for the organization. He may not have been the best QB, but he had heart, knew his job, came to play and played well.
January 6th, 2010 at 4:56 pm
Silver-n-Smac Says:
January 6th, 2010 at 4:39 pm
Hey Richocrap (a.k.a. Pile-o-Crap)
Let me ask you something chipmunk. . .
If the Raiders, with Al Davis & Tom Cable, go 9-7 or 10-6 next season and make the playoffs for the first time in 8 years, what will you say at that point?
That is exactly what is going to happen next season.
I don’t know who our starting QB will be and I really don’t care. But, the results will be good.
And I truly can’t wait to see you squirm like the little biotch that you are.
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Going to happen NEXT SEASON?
Of COURSE it is..just because YOU said so.
Oh..wait…didn’t YOU guarantee a winning season THIS YEAR?
Didn’t YOU guarantee Russell was NOW going to tear up the league?
Didn’t YOU guarantee the 3 RB’s we’re going to kick ass?
In other words,..with you..it’s always “WAIT UNTIL NEXT YEAR”..words spoken by true losers.
See..if you can’t say that, then you have to face the stark reality that Al blew it..again.
Instead you’ll just keep on blaming everyone but Al, while stating “we’re close…I can see the light at the end of the tunnel”.
Sounds familiar.
Oh yeah..CABLE SAID THAT 12 GAMES AGO…then 10 games…then 7 games…always something’s “going to happen”..not “is happening”
And how lame is “doesn’t matter who the starting qb is, it’s going to be good”??
Geez..now you sound like a kid. Ignorant comment..as usual..from you.
January 6th, 2010 at 4:58 pm
As much as I want Cable to stay, don’t be surprised if Davis gives Mike Martz a call.
He’s called Martz a “genius” in the past and Martz fits the Davis mold to a T.
The biggest problem I have with Martz is that he totally seems to dismiss the importance of the running game.
And on a lighter note, he’s got the personality of a tree trunk.
January 6th, 2010 at 4:59 pm
Richochet has plagiarized my one-liners for the past year. He owes me residules
January 6th, 2010 at 4:59 pm
Silver-n-Smac Says:
January 6th, 2010 at 4:41 pm
The only part of my post above that is yet to be determined is Cable still being here.
I have no idea if he’s gonna get canned or not, but, I hope he’ll still be here.
He’s a good coach. Maybe not a great play-caller but a good head coach.
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Ahhh..so..according to you, Cable could be gone..and Russell could be gone..but at the same time you state how DEFINITELY the Raiders will be in the playoffs next year??
Yeah..that makes sense..in Bizarro World.
January 6th, 2010 at 5:00 pm
You know AD and Martz could never co-exist. You are covering yur tracks.
January 6th, 2010 at 5:00 pm
Hey moron (Richocrap). . .
Since you keep all my old posts, go look up what I said before the pre-season. . .
I felt we would end up between 7-9 and 9-7 and NOT make the playoffs.
You ignorant pile of crap.
January 6th, 2010 at 5:02 pm
# CaptainBlack Says:
January 6th, 2010 at 5:00 pm
You know AD and Martz could never co-exist. You are covering yur tracks.
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Covering my tracks?
What are you – a freakin’ comedian? Covering what tracks. What part of “I want Cable to remain head coach” escapes you?
Covering my tracks?! That’s awesome man. Thanks for providing me with a much-needed chuckle.
Yeah, that’s what I’m really stressed about these days – “covering my tracks” on a sports blog.
Freakin’ hilarious.
You funny guy you.
January 6th, 2010 at 5:02 pm
Pay up, Richochet
January 6th, 2010 at 5:03 pm
Thanks, John
January 6th, 2010 at 5:04 pm
Hey Rachocrap:
What part of the below post do you not understand:
“Give me:
1. Half-way decent QB play.
2. One big, nasty run-stuffing ML.
3. One big, fat, hole-stuffing nose tackle.
4. Two good offensive linemen on the right side.
Those are 5 new players (4 if Gradkowski is the real deal).
You give me those things and this is a playoff team.”
Dumbass.
January 6th, 2010 at 5:04 pm
CaptainBlack Says:
January 6th, 2010 at 4:48 pm
Cable’s O-line was trble; his play calling was trble; some of his coaching selections were trble; his O-line player selections have been trble. Bottom line, Cable is trble!
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Smac, is the above humorous? Me tinks not!!
January 6th, 2010 at 5:07 pm
Smac, Richochet is cutting your posts now. He’s gonna call you either a pumpkin, a poodle or peanut.
January 6th, 2010 at 5:08 pm
jus sayin
January 6th, 2010 at 5:09 pm
Gannon is a self serving punk, attitude driven, and not a Raider friend. He’s looking for an easy AD paycheck, it aint gonna happen. Gannon was saved by the Raiders, AD, and now tries to mend fences. Go away, punk, you flunked, and spat your guts about your be friends, you are a punk, a rat, and the scum of foorball, you low life loser! Go to San Fran, we don’t need you!
January 6th, 2010 at 5:10 pm
Richochet, which one of the three is he? I says punkin?
January 6th, 2010 at 5:11 pm
Captain:
You seriously believe Cable selects players?
Are you for real?
The only coach that has had ANY influence, that I’m aware of, on the players being brought in was Gruden and that’s only because Al was truly open to the idea of change at that time.
Anyone with half a brain knows that Al is in charge of player selections.
If Cable makes a suggestion and Al likes it, Cable gets it. If Cable makes a suggestion and Al doesn’t like it, Cable doesn’t get it.
Get it?
Blame Al for those things because he deserves the blame.
Al Davis knows a lot more football than all of us clowns, but, he’s royally screwed up a lot of decisions over the past few years.
Don’t blame personel moves on Cable.
Play calling was definitely strange here and there.
But you can’t deny the fact that it was way more aggressive than any coach since Tom Flores.
You, and guys like you, are the same ones who were biotching that Gruden was way too conservative.
January 6th, 2010 at 5:11 pm
Rico,
your alter ego, a puppy whining for attention, does become displaced here in the unaccounted realm of cyberspace.
You are as so many.
Alpha dog wannabes, but ain’t.
January 6th, 2010 at 5:12 pm
First of all gannon was a good fit, not a great qb. he didnt have to be great the raiders built one of the best teams of the decade around him with an all star cast of professionals, and young talent around him. You dont have to be super talented to be a winner. Good fortune favors the prepared mind. This is not about jamarcuss vs gannon. My point is jamrcuss is way more talented than most qb’s we have seen in oakland. Gannon becama a winner and was a rock solid leader in oakland. A retread cast off that rebuilt his career here in the town.I am grateful for the good foot ball I was treated to while he was here.Obviously if no.2 had even a shred of this guys workman like attitude, he would be better off. Some are born leaders, others must grow into the role.Classic example of guy becoming a leader, chris carter. When he was in philly he was a malcontent locker room cancer, with unbelievable talent. Once he was cut by buddy ryan he had a wake up call. In minnesota he was one of the unquestioned team leaders. How about vernon davis, from slacker to team leader. This can happen and we should all hope the light comes on fro russell. Lastly on this who was on this team that could teach russell leadership? Finally what grads did when he was in taught no.2 a lesson, I can see his growth in that time. I would love to see gannon or anyone else continue to teach no.2 the tools of leadership.
captainblakck,
I have seen the greatness of Russell. i saw it when he was in college, he was amazing. we have all seen flashes here in the pro’s. 2 come from behind 4th quarter wins to knock out play off contenders at the end of 08. Also this year last second wins, in k.c, denver, and should have got the win in sd. he did that despite playing for one of the worst teams in the league! O-line is terrible, rookie receivers, and no running game to speak of, what could anyone realistically expect? Teach him what he needs to know and give him the help he needs, then we can properly judge him.
January 6th, 2010 at 5:12 pm
CB, did you call that an O-line? You must be a Charger fan, we haven’t had an O-Line in ten years?
January 6th, 2010 at 5:13 pm
# 860Todd Christensen Says:
January 6th, 2010 at 5:09 pm
Gannon is a self serving punk, attitude driven, and not a Raider friend. He’s looking for an easy AD paycheck, it aint gonna happen. Gannon was saved by the Raiders, AD, and now tries to mend fences. Go away, punk, you flunked, and spat your guts about your be friends, you are a punk, a rat, and the scum of foorball, you low life loser! Go to San Fran, we don’t need you!
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Are you serious?
Uh. . . .
Yeah. . .
You’re right.
Josh McCown, George, Collins. . .
Yeah. . .
They were the REAL deal.
January 6th, 2010 at 5:13 pm
Smac, come on, Cable recommended those players. He selected his coaches with the exception of Willie Brown. If Freddy B was around that would have been two coaches he could not change. I could go on.
January 6th, 2010 at 5:14 pm
CaptainBlack Says:
January 6th, 2010 at 4:56 pm
Gannon would be very positive for the organization. He may not have been the best QB, but he had heart, knew his job, came to play and played well.
January 6th, 2010 at 5:15 pm
Silver-n-Smac Says:
January 6th, 2010 at 4:50 pm
Hey Rachocrap:
From last night:
# Silver-n-Smac Says:
January 5th, 2010 at 7:06 pm
Hey RicoCrap:
You’re a freakin’ imbecile. How you can possibly compare any of those other owners to Al Davis shows just how much an ass you are. If there was a legit comparison to make, your point would be valid.
RICHOCHET: everything I say is valid. Just takes you a little longer to comprehend. Stupid is as stupid does.
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So again. . . .yes. . . .if you bought the Oakland Raiders (owned by Al Davis) Koolaid at some point in your life, you have 3 choices:
1. Either acknowledge that the man will not change his ways. Doesn’t mean you have to like it. But you also acknowledge that he’s won before and believe he’ll win again. . . in his own, weird, twisted manner.
RICHOCHET: no..YOU might acknowledge that..what I acknowledge is that Ron Wolfe kicked ass, NOT AL..that Bruce Allen and Gruden ran a solid ship…NOT AL..and when Al’s trying to do what other GM’s did before him? HE SUCKS AT IT.
That’s a fact. THE WHOLE WORLD KNOWS THAT’S A FACT. EVERY REPORTER KNOWS THAT’S A FACT. FANS HAVE SPENT MONEY ON BILLBOARDS STATING THAT’S A FACT..
the slow..spineless..and jellyfish fans refuse to see that fact.
you know..like you.
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2. Be a “go-getter” and create a freakin’ billboard if that gets you off. If that makes you feel like you’re important, hey. . .enjoy. You can then go back to feeding your hamster.
RICHOCHET: Ahhh..what you’re saying is it’s OK to make it clear to everyone that Al sucks at what he’s doing, just do it where you don’t have to step up and defend the derelict?
Wow…hmmm…let me think….
Nawww…billboards already been done. I think I’m fine schooling you..right here.
Thanks for the offer, though.
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3. Or. . .if you’re just so bitter that you sit here and cry like a little girl every day about how we’re not going anywhere until Al Davis is dead, then as I said – go away and do something that makes you happy.
RICHOCHET: And we’re back to the offer to PLEASE LEAVE ME ALONE..PLEASE..IF YOU DON’T LOVE AL DAVIS, GO AWAY..IF YOU DON’T ACCEPT HIM TEARING APART THE TEAM, GO AWAY..”
What you mean to say is what you initially said..you want everyone to be like you..NO BALLS, SPINELESS, JELLYFISH..AND A COWARDLY LEMMING…
Again..I’ll respectfully decline.
don’t get me wrong. World needs followers..people who never take a stand..who never demand better..who want others to think for them..you’re just fine where you are, Smac.
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If you can’t stand Al Davis, you chose the wrong team.
RICHOCHET: See my attendence figures above..seems the majority can’t stand Al Davis..you pansy.
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So if you can’t stand the dude that makes every single decision that affects this particular football team, then make a choice.
RICHOCHET: Oh…well..ok…how’s this? AL DAVIS..YOU SUCK!!
pretty much sums it up.
January 6th, 2010 at 5:16 pm
If Cable brought in Sanjaya Lal, then Cable must go!
January 6th, 2010 at 5:17 pm
SNS, where did any of them get us? Pergatoy…Where we live now! I will say, at one time I thought Wilson was the way, but I regress……….
January 6th, 2010 at 5:17 pm
What I tell you Smac. Cut and paste. He didn’t call you a punkin though
January 6th, 2010 at 5:18 pm
Smac, Richochet is a paid azzhole
January 6th, 2010 at 5:18 pm
Captain:
you come on dude. . . .you really think Cable was enamored with Cornell Green after last season?
He could have “recommended” Jason Peters, the great tackle from Buffalo and moved Mario to the right side.
But no. . . he saw the greatness of Cornell Green.
Come on man – that’s BS.
I’ve always liked Al Davis, but, those kinds of personnel decisions I put squarely on his shoulders.
It’s his team and he’s made some bad signings in the past few years.
If you’re willing to dish out all that money to guys like Kelly, then he should have dished it all out to Peters.
That’s on my buddy Al.
Not Cable.
January 6th, 2010 at 5:18 pm
Oh, and if Cable brought in Jim Fassel Jr., then he is a goddam retard, not only did Jr screw up the Special Teams, but he was Fassel Sr.’s inside ear on how to get the job.
January 6th, 2010 at 5:19 pm
Los Raiders De Don Rober Says:
January 6th, 2010 at 4:54 pm
I am not a pro scout, but I’m not sure Jamarcus is as talented as some people think he is. The easiest way to spot talent, IMO, is when the player is surrounded by crap, yet he stands out. Players like Barry Sanders, Deion Sanders, early years Lawrence Taylor and Steve Young, Bo, Marcus, Nnamdi, Elway… There’s a ton of intangibles that go into doing something nobody else can do, which in my book is talent. Throwing the ball 80 yards is not talent, thats a circus trick.
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Steve young was horrible in tampa bay, it wasnt until he found sf, a talented team with good coaching that he turned it around. both manning brothers stunk up the joint early in their careers, so did bradshaw, aikman, and so on. You need to learn leadeship, and you need talent around you in order to shine. Randle cunningham, was chased out of philly, that team sucked the last few years he was there. When he went to the vikings he had one of the greatest seasons in history.
January 6th, 2010 at 5:20 pm
Captain:
Richocrap provides me with hours of cyberspace joy and for that, I’m eternally grateful.
It’s rare when you have the opportunity to communicate with a total moron on a regular basis.
Richocrap is that rare gem.
January 6th, 2010 at 5:20 pm
Smac, he recently said Cornell was an outstanding right tackle and was glad he was back in the lineup. Cable lying or just no nonsense?
January 6th, 2010 at 5:24 pm
The question is which one (or which three) of the contributors here are Jerry Mc in disguise attempting to further his “hits” as a way of maintaining employment. (He should not be begrudged that as it keeps this site alive and he keeps his job, but who is which?)
Have a fine evening men and women of a Nation.
January 6th, 2010 at 5:25 pm
Rachocrap:
Thanks for illustrating, with a resounding thud (with all the cut & pastes) the fact that you are anything BUT a fan of the Oakland Raiders.
YOU are the one that’s a freakin’ panzy. All you do is biotch like the puzzy that you are.
Eternally pissed-off guys/girls/moles like you would probably help shovel out dirt for your grave if you could.
Enjoy living in your world of doom dude.
January 6th, 2010 at 5:27 pm
I like Cable and I defended him when the media trashed him and alluded to him being a woman beater. I do not now believe he has the skills to be a quality HC. Just my opinion.
January 6th, 2010 at 5:28 pm
Ok,Ok. Maybe some kids pull 180s and get their stuff together, but goddam its seemes the Raiders were the worst offense in the league because of Russell’s play, not despite it. So I hope Russel pulls a 180 and works hard enough to be successfull…From my point of view the only real talent JR has is a strong arm, what else?
January 6th, 2010 at 5:29 pm
By the way Richocrap:
Thanks for your cut and paste of all the NFL stadium attendance figures.
That certainly was enlightening for all of us.
Let me clue you in on something.
This may be hard for you to understand, as your ass has most likely never been in the Oakland Coliseum.
30,000 Raider fans are more passionate about their team (regardless of the win/loss record) than the 100 G’s they’re packing into Dallas’ new bowl of gold.
You’re an idiot.
Purchasing a ticket says nothing about how much of a “fan” you are.
Have you seen Candlestick lately?
Yeah, they’ve sold out for 30 plus years.
Whooo Hooo!
Did you bother to notice that that stadium is barely half-filled on game days?
Dumb-ass.
If you’re gonna make statements, try putting some thought into them instead of enamoring us with meaningless statistics.
January 6th, 2010 at 5:30 pm
If Cable is retained, I will be disappointed, but hey, its not my team or money.
January 6th, 2010 at 5:32 pm
Captain:
That’s cool – we disagree.
As for him saying that about Cornell:
Well, if he actually said that (which I have a hard time believing – I watch all his press conferences), that’s a stupid comment and I have a feeling that’s nothing more than him not wanting to publicly rip his player.
He was probably asked about the player and didn’t want to embarrass him.
What was he supposed to say?
He sucks?
He stood up for Kwame Harris in the same way.
A head coach should never publicly humiliate his players.
Would you want to play for a guy like that?
January 6th, 2010 at 5:33 pm
Captain:
As you said, it’s not our team and it’s not our money.
All we can do is hope that correct decisions are made in this organization, like they used to be.
Short of that. . . .I suppose we can follow Richocrap and support the erection of impressive billboards.
January 6th, 2010 at 5:35 pm
Cable threw Jamarcus under the bus, practically blaming him for the Raiders bad season. He’s gonna do the same thing next season to another one of Al’s trophy picks. Remember he’s good at weathering storms.
January 6th, 2010 at 5:36 pm
# M Lonetree Says:
January 6th, 2010 at 5:24 pm
The question is which one (or which three) of the contributors here are Jerry Mc in disguise attempting to further his “hits” as a way of maintaining employment. (He should not be begrudged that as it keeps this site alive and he keeps his job, but who is which?)
Have a fine evening men and women of a Nation.
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Lonetree. . . . .
There are 2 monikers that come to mind:
1. Richochet
2. RealMaddenRaider
January 6th, 2010 at 5:36 pm
Good evening fellas.
January 6th, 2010 at 5:38 pm
James Plunket was the last true QB the Raiders have had. Everyone else has tried to exemplify the true meaning of what a QB is to this team. I think, that is what AD is trying to exemplify to our underpreforming QB’s on this team. AL, personally, our O-line is a shambles, hurts our RB’s, passing attack, routing. Al, our D-line is a shambles, hurts our ability to stop anyones running game, allows routes to destroy our pass interception game, I’m thinking, Al, you read these posts all the time, if Russ don’t come to camp ready and able, I know he’s only 23 and from the south, Give him “one” more training camp, he does have the goods, but no excusses, make it or break it! PERIOD! I know AD will do the right thing!
January 6th, 2010 at 5:39 pm
Smac, look, we all watched Cornell Green, Kwame Harris, and Cooper Carlisle play. They were not up to the challenge. So whenever the coach says something positive about these players it’s BS!
And he did say what I wrote about Cornell. I do NOT create scripts.
January 6th, 2010 at 5:44 pm
We nedd to spend some money on both lines, critics be dammed1
January 6th, 2010 at 5:46 pm
Sorry, lefty here, don’t type
January 6th, 2010 at 6:02 pm
history speaks for its self (1) al davis has an eye for veterans history has proved that many times to many to count .(2)2nd chance 3rd chance many of als best players have gone through half the league before coming home to the raider nation (3)ask any raider fan (you can tell which ones are fans from the ones who are just on the band wagon)being a raider or raider fan is not something you just wake up one day and say i think i like the raiders now that could get you @#$%%^ kicked you are born with it and it cant be helped from day 1 you know it and it looks like gannon has proved it again. al saw it in gannon then hopefully he sees it now.(4)gannon sees it in jr al saw it maybe the rest of you wanna bes will see it too. hope we dont have to wait untill jr,s 10th season before he shows it .YOU GO GANNON ONCE A RAIDER ALWAYS A RAIDER ESPECIALLY IF YOUR WILLING TO GIVE LIFE AND LIMB LIKE GANNON. PROPS TO YOU GANNON
January 6th, 2010 at 7:16 pm
Regarding the following post:
“captainblakck,
I have seen the greatness of Russell. i saw it when he was in college, he was amazing. we have all seen flashes here in the pro’s. 2 come from behind 4th quarter wins to knock out play off contenders at the end of 08. Also this year last second wins, in k.c, denver, and should have got the win in sd. he did that despite playing for one of the worst teams in the league! O-line is terrible, rookie receivers, and no running game to speak of, what could anyone realistically expect? Teach him what he needs to know and give him the help he needs, then we can properly judge him.”
WOW!!! Are you kidding me. Did you watch the same games I did??? Please if you have these games on VCR or if NFL network replays them please look at his actual performance. I mean JR made what they in Tennis call many many *unforced errors* If I have to be blind and dumb and out of reality to be a Raiders fan then I am getting off this bus. Come on enough with the excuses. He was the main reason there was no running game!!!! They could confidently stack the box because they had no fear that JR would burn them or if he did it would be rare enough to be worth it. If I had to scheme against the Raiders with JR that is certaintly be what I would do. I know anything I say here will not effect the “true believer” but please be objective and really look at his actual play – he was terrible!!! Were there other problems – of course but you need to look at his actual play! Cutler for instance is a QB that you could make excuses for with what he had in Chicago but JR was just flat out bad even with the problems.
January 6th, 2010 at 7:19 pm
By the way if Russell was benched after his horrible pre-season performances, I believe Oakland would have been battling for a wildcard up to the final game! Another point Russell was given extra work and the focused on the passing game all preseason and he still sucked!!!!
January 6th, 2010 at 7:23 pm
I would like to recall my “blind and dumb” comment in post #265 the way most fans were booing JR actually confirms that most fans saw what I saw and it is only 5-7 people on this board that need to be fitted for new glasses!!!
January 6th, 2010 at 10:31 pm
1960 — really, you don’t have to keep going. 99% of us all saw the same sucky thing out of Russell.
January 7th, 2010 at 1:26 am
I’d love Gannon’s help. I hate the fact that Herrera is so distasteful that he attacks Gannon. He did play a horrible superbowl. He also won the MVP for us and helped us reach the playoffs and be respectable. No other QB has. In fact, his getting hurt and our horrible record coincide pretty precisely.
January 7th, 2010 at 5:58 am
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