Raiders OK with Russell, still mad at Gannon
By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Wednesday, January 6th, 2010 at 5:12 pm in Oakland Raiders.
For the record, the Raiders aren’t overly concerned with the Las Vegas excursion by JaMarcus Russell, saying he was in Sin City accompanied by someone with the club, and have no intention of taking Rich Gannon up on his offer to help the team reverse the tide of seven consecutive losing seasons.
Steve Corkran followed up on both issues today with senior executive John Hererra, who confirmed, “JaMarcus was in Las Vegas, and he was there with a (Raiders staff member). He was there for a legitimate reason.”
As for Gannon, Herrera’s company line made it clear the former MVP is persona non grata in Alameda.
“It’s Rich that needs the help,” Herrera said. “When he goes on a radio show offering Mr. Davis help, Tom Cable help, the Raiders help, maybe it’s Rich that needs the help.”
Herrera also said, “What does Rich Gannon think he has to offer that Paul Hackett can’t contribute, when he himself said Paul Hackett is the best quarterbacks coach that he ever had?”
The Raiders have also signed practice squad player to a future’s contract, tying him to the Raiders into next season. Wide receiver Paul Hubbard, center Tim Mattran, quarterback Jeff Otis and guard Brandon Robb were not retained.
In other news, according to Raiders.com, linebacker Sam Williams is the team’s nominee for the Walter Payton Man of the Year award, given for service to the community.
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January 6th, 2010 at 5:15 pm
Silver-n-Smac Says:
January 6th, 2010 at 4:50 pm
Hey Rachocrap:
From last night:
# Silver-n-Smac Says:
January 5th, 2010 at 7:06 pm
Hey RicoCrap:
You’re a freakin’ imbecile. How you can possibly compare any of those other owners to Al Davis shows just how much an ass you are. If there was a legit comparison to make, your point would be valid.
RICHOCHET: everything I say is valid. Just takes you a little longer to comprehend. Stupid is as stupid does.
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So again. . . .yes. . . .if you bought the Oakland Raiders (owned by Al Davis) Koolaid at some point in your life, you have 3 choices:
1. Either acknowledge that the man will not change his ways. Doesn’t mean you have to like it. But you also acknowledge that he’s won before and believe he’ll win again. . . in his own, weird, twisted manner.
RICHOCHET: no..YOU might acknowledge that..what I acknowledge is that Ron Wolfe kicked ass, NOT AL..that Bruce Allen and Gruden ran a solid ship…NOT AL..and when Al’s trying to do what other GM’s did before him? HE SUCKS AT IT.
That’s a fact. THE WHOLE WORLD KNOWS THAT’S A FACT. EVERY REPORTER KNOWS THAT’S A FACT. FANS HAVE SPENT MONEY ON BILLBOARDS STATING THAT’S A FACT..
the slow..spineless..and jellyfish fans refuse to see that fact.
you know..like you.
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2. Be a “go-getter” and create a freakin’ billboard if that gets you off. If that makes you feel like you’re important, hey. . .enjoy. You can then go back to feeding your hamster.
RICHOCHET: Ahhh..what you’re saying is it’s OK to make it clear to everyone that Al sucks at what he’s doing, just do it where you don’t have to step up and defend the derelict?
Wow…hmmm…let me think….
Nawww…billboards already been done. I think I’m fine schooling you..right here.
Thanks for the offer, though.
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3. Or. . .if you’re just so bitter that you sit here and cry like a little girl every day about how we’re not going anywhere until Al Davis is dead, then as I said – go away and do something that makes you happy.
RICHOCHET: And we’re back to the offer to PLEASE LEAVE ME ALONE..PLEASE..IF YOU DON’T LOVE AL DAVIS, GO AWAY..IF YOU DON’T ACCEPT HIM TEARING APART THE TEAM, GO AWAY..”
What you mean to say is what you initially said..you want everyone to be like you..NO BALLS, SPINELESS, JELLYFISH..AND A COWARDLY LEMMING…
Again..I’ll respectfully decline.
don’t get me wrong. World needs followers..people who never take a stand..who never demand better..who want others to think for them..you’re just fine where you are, Smac.
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If you can’t stand Al Davis, you chose the wrong team.
RICHOCHET: See my attendence figures above..seems the majority can’t stand Al Davis..you pansy.
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So if you can’t stand the dude that makes every single decision that affects this particular football team, then make a choice.
RICHOCHET: Oh…well..ok…how’s this? AL DAVIS..YOU SUCK!!
pretty much sums it up.
January 6th, 2010 at 5:16 pm
herrera is beyond help. unemployable except by raiders.
January 6th, 2010 at 5:18 pm
The member of the club that #2 is with is,TA-DA
Javon Walker!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
This bodes very well for the Nation!
January 6th, 2010 at 5:22 pm
In vegas with a raider staff, that should shut everyone up. I think this young guy is turning the corner, and wants to prove every one wrong. I will take him at his word. “my play was shakey, I will work on everything top to bottom.”
January 6th, 2010 at 5:23 pm
God help us. This confirms to me that this organization is destined for more doom. When a man like Rich Gannon offers his services to you after seven straight seasons of eleven or more losses I would be inclined to take that help. Clearly Al Davis and his “puppet,” John Herrera have to much pride at this point and will continue to do things there way. Maybe I am reading into this too much but it also leads me to believe that Paul Hackett will be retained, hopefully meaning Coach Cable will be retained. I believe that Coach Cable has the respect of the players that matter in this organization, I do however agree that he needs to relinquish play calling duties. This should allow him to focus on the team as a whole and allow him to focus more attention with the offensive line. Hopefully then we would be able to hire a young innovative offensive coordinator and allow Hackett to focus on developing the Quarterbacks.
January 6th, 2010 at 5:24 pm
can not believe Al and Herrera still have hatred for a guy that only wanted to help. Sure, Paul Hackett is a great Coach, but obviously it’s still not sinking in for #2..maybe it never will.
Herrera..you’re the one needing help..
knocking out Reporters for Chriist sake..
how insecure are ya, pal?
January 6th, 2010 at 5:30 pm
Dont be so surprised that gannon is not well liked. Gannon was not well liked by his teammates when he played here either. His teammates had to respect him becuase he worked hard and produced on the field. This cat just rubs people the wrong way. We also have no idea what happened between he and davis behind closed doors. We all know davis can carry a grudge for ever.
January 6th, 2010 at 5:32 pm
well that didn’t take long…
January 6th, 2010 at 5:33 pm
[...] Jerry McDonald reports that the Raiders confirmed Russell is in Las Vegas for a “legitimate reason” and is [...]
January 6th, 2010 at 5:35 pm
wow what a mess! john herrera needs new knee pads along with mistic1
January 6th, 2010 at 5:37 pm
No Accountability. S.I. 1996
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“The problem with the Raiders is there’s no accountability,” says one prominent veteran. “People say Al Davis is too involved. Hell, I think he should get more involved, if that’s what it would take.” Last season Davis spent less time around the players and coaches than he had in previous years, but he remained the Raiders’ absolute authority figure.
Davis has a history of undermining his coaches, and one source says that despite his lower profile in 1995, Davis pulled his share of power plays on White. Several times he showed up at practice and waited for White to approach him after drills. As White walked toward him, the source says, Davis walked away.
January 6th, 2010 at 5:38 pm
The truth will set you free but first…it’s gonna piss you off.
January 6th, 2010 at 5:42 pm
WOW Herrera is a piece of work..lol
“It’s Rich that needs the help,” Herrera said. “When he goes on a radio show offering Mr. Davis help, Tom Cable help, the Raiders help, maybe it’s Rich that needs the help.”
January 6th, 2010 at 5:42 pm
Wow, if this is all true, I dont know how I can still cheer for this backwards, illiterate excuse for a team. But, I know I still will. Its the worst disease to be cursed with, as far as sports interests.
January 6th, 2010 at 5:44 pm
Rich Gannon was not the most athletic quarterback to have graced the S&B but he won games with his decision making. Had Gruden not given Tampa the insight we would have won that super bowl. Yet, the kool aide drinkers still insist that Al can turn this around and the fans that believe Chucky is the answer are mistaken. Until we draft better, develop talent, bring in proven vet( unlike the over the hill guys we have signed0 and give a coach continuity we will have these 5-11 seasons. Gruden will bring discipline but Al will never swallow his pride and admit that he was wrong. Gruden won with the talent that Al gave him. They needed each other. If I can remember a few years back when Kiffin was hired, some guys on this blog wanted Gannon as OC. What has happened? Al take the help, swallow your pride and do what is right. RESTORE the PRIDE And POISE back to our beloved Raiders.
January 6th, 2010 at 5:49 pm
Maybe Rich was taking a shot.
I guess it worked.
January 6th, 2010 at 5:49 pm
M Lonetree Says:
January 6th, 2010 at 5:11 pm
Rico,
your alter ego, a puppy whining for attention, does become displaced here in the unaccounted realm of cyberspace.
You are as so many.
Alpha dog wannabes, but ain’t.
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Matters little where I fit in the scheme of things.
What’s important is that YOU consider me as Alpha Dog, and strive to deny.
You’re just as special as you can be, LoneBaffoon..trust me on this.
January 6th, 2010 at 5:52 pm
Who believe’s JaRumproast was in Vegas on business with a team official?
Thats all you need to know right there! If management is willing to cover for this buffoon its going to be another long year in 2010 with Black Moses fumbling and tossin INT’s.
January 6th, 2010 at 5:53 pm
Jerry Mac, your headline should read – RAIDERS LOSING ON THE FIELD AND IN THE P.R. DEPARTMENT. I mean, really, what is the administration thinking answering the Gannon thing, even if a reporter called them and asked? Silence would have been golden on this latest Gannon “issue”. All this does is stoke the flame of the Raiders being paranoid and focusing on small battles and not the important business of winning football games. Bad PR decision no matter how you slice it. More scoffing and laughing at the Raiders. It is really interesting that the Raiders operate at such as secretive level on the larger football issues, yet look like buffoons instantly responding to these small petty non-issues. Sirius NFL Radio just gained some extra listeners tomorrow to hear Gannon’s response. The fans’ talk of the need of a Raider’s GM gains credibility in my eyes. Who brought that issue up in the first place? Oh yeah, one Al Davis. They just need to learn when to be silence, and when to be responsive. The GM train gains steam…
January 6th, 2010 at 5:53 pm
NFL’s All Time 5 Worst General Managers.
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#4.
Wow, a one-time genius is now stuck in the past. When an owner/general manager continues to use the phrase “commitment to excellence” over and over again to describe a team that has a record of 29-83 since 2003, 7 consecutive seasons of 11 loses or more, and 4 coaches in 6 years, you know he’s living in the past. The once proud franchise took a page out of Daniel Snyder’s business handbook on Football management. At one time, this franchise had the greatest winning percentage in all of professional sports, was a perennial playoff team and contender year after year. Somewhere along the way, Al Davis went completely insane, hired and fired coaches over and over again, and displayed a complete lack of understanding not typical of someone in the Pro Football Hall of Fame. Known as a ‘maverick’, he’s certainly that as he’s ignored the conventional wisdom of hiring good people and leaving them alone. Instead, he’s known to interfere in play calling, chasing over the hill free agents, and drafting complete duds like Jamarcus Russell whose 3 year quarterback rating is an abysmal 65.2%.
http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/2557245/the_nfls_top_5_alltime_worst_general_pg2.html?cat=14
January 6th, 2010 at 5:54 pm
Could it be Gannon was not well liked by his teammates is due to the fact that he demanded more from them than any of the present Raider management or coaching staff. Maybe some of our present players(?) need somebody in their face and demanding some accountability, rather than this powder puff crap we’re being served up year after year. I’ve been a Raider fan for 30 years, and can’t believe this once proud and great franchise has been run into the ground. Our team management are a disgrace from top to bottom!
January 6th, 2010 at 5:54 pm
John Hererra is the dumbest man in the NFL, in America even. You don’t go bad mouthing one of the best players in recent football history, and certainly not the QB that played and played well the last time the Raiders were any good.
To show you Al’s inept leadership – how this dumb4$$ is still tied to the team in any capacity is beyond anyone’s understanding!
They should take Gannon’s help just to make most of the fan base happy, you know, so they will buy tickets next year.
John Hererra is as crazy as old Al and freaking idea how to work in the NFL.
January 6th, 2010 at 5:55 pm
heres RUSSELL partying in vegas
http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii195/davpdesign/vegas2010.jpg
January 6th, 2010 at 5:57 pm
Remenber this, 1/7/09, JR will be given one more chance to lead this team, what he does between now and then will be the difference of wheather he leads this team, or leaves it. I’m so tired of the Raider hate, so lets stop it right now Raider fans. Not a fan, leave here now, don’t come back. Simple?
January 6th, 2010 at 5:58 pm
Is Fassell living in Vegas?
Can someone repost that Herrera wielding a Louisville slugger bit, I could use a good laugh.
Hererra and his silver mullet I could so see him with that bat all red face! Ahhhh it’s been a long day!
January 6th, 2010 at 5:59 pm
JaMeatloaf holding a Mickey D’s bag how appropiate!
Which team official is that with JaMarmalade ?
January 6th, 2010 at 5:59 pm
Being a fan is like a marriage. Even when it is bad, you can’t rid yourself of them. I’ve tried a couple times in frustration to denounce my allegiance, but it doesn’t work. I cheat on them from time to time & root for other teams, but I can’t love any other team like I love the Raiders.
I was impressed that Gannon was willing to come back after he was sooo disrespected by the idiots working for AD like this bum Herrerra. What makes no sense to me, is why is this guy’s ego so inpenetrable that he isn’t willing to admit, that after the longest streak of 11+ loss seasons ever, that his way is not working! One would think that at some point, it would become clear that a change in the way YOU do business must be made. All this talk about accountability, where is Mr. Davis’ accountability? Where is his mirror for him to look into and ask himself “what can I do differently to fix this problem?” Everybody has to be accountable for their own role in this disaster, starting at the top.
January 6th, 2010 at 5:59 pm
Carl, I feel your pain!
January 6th, 2010 at 6:06 pm
KK, are we all still racist for saying your guy Jamarcus sucks?
Now that Oakglen and priesttj have put their tail between their legs and left the blog I guess that makes you the #1 village idiot KK, congrats!
January 6th, 2010 at 6:08 pm
Herrera: Al? Al????? wake up Al. Rich called.
Al: “Rich? Richochet, from Jerry’s blog? Oh cool…let him in.”
Herrera: “No, Al, I said called, not that he’s here.”
Al: “oh, my bad. Ok, put him through”
Herrera: “No, Al, Rich Gannon”
Al: “Gannon? To hell with him.. Tell him I’ll call him back after I talk to Richochet.”
You know..I can see it going…just like that.
January 6th, 2010 at 6:09 pm
Did anyone see that newspaper ad that was supposed to be in an Oakland paper a few days ago? The one relating to the billboard.
January 6th, 2010 at 6:10 pm
Newspaper?
lol
January 6th, 2010 at 6:11 pm
Haven’t heard a word about it. You’d think Jerry would have mentioned it.
January 6th, 2010 at 6:12 pm
KK, you didnt hear that at your Barbershop?
Amazing..
January 6th, 2010 at 6:12 pm
The Raiders are bats… crazy.
They are like Bizzaro Superman.
January 6th, 2010 at 6:17 pm
The title of this current post is spot on as to how ass backwards things are on the death star.
January 6th, 2010 at 6:18 pm
860Todd Christensen Says:
January 6th, 2010 at 5:57 pm
Remenber this, 1/7/09, JR will be given one more chance to lead this team, what he does between now and then will be the difference of wheather he leads this team, or leaves it. I’m so tired of the Raider hate, so lets stop it right now Raider fans. Not a fan, leave here now, don’t come back. Simple?
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Let’s see…attendence at an all time low, lowest in the league.
Team just set another NFL record with 7 consecutive 11+ loss seasons.
Offense is 31st in the league, and defense is 26th in the league.
Team goes through head coaches like pez out of a pez dispenser.
Every player who leaves can’t wait to diss the whole organization, while no players want to come here unless a Brink’s truck pulls up to their driveway.
Team is the laughingstock of the country…
yet…YOU STATE “LET’S STOP THE RAIDER HATE RIGHT NOW”???
And the “not a fan, leave now”??? So..according to you, a “fan” would put up with all of the above??
Maybe that’s the problem..too many “fans” like you, who just accept things, while meekly saluting.
Food for thought.
Now shut up.
January 6th, 2010 at 6:26 pm
God i hate John Hererra, what does he have 2 years of education, we should send him to canada, he did such a great job there (pun intended)
January 6th, 2010 at 6:26 pm
# 860Todd Christensen Says:
January 6th, 2010 at 5:57 pm
Remenber this, 1/7/09, JR will be given one more chance to lead this team, what he does between now and then will be the difference of wheather he leads this team, or leaves it. I’m so tired of the Raider hate, so lets stop it right now Raider fans. Not a fan, leave here now, don’t come back. Simple?
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Nah. . . .haters predominately rule this blog.
Not much we can do about that.
You know. . . .Freedom of speech. . . . .
If I had it my way. . .yeah, I’d diss’em’all. . .
Like Al dissed Gannon. LOL
January 6th, 2010 at 6:30 pm
Bat $h! t crazy on the Death Star – you guys crack me up!
January 6th, 2010 at 6:33 pm
btw, before pre-season started, we all talked how it would fare this year, I said I was sure it would go 5-11, but hoped for an 6-10 season…. though i was right, had JaMarcus been starter all year we would have been below chiefs.. so here is to Gradkowski, for saving my prediction, chin-chin…
January 6th, 2010 at 6:35 pm
raiderbuck…
btw, i totally agree on your post about Herrera…
January 6th, 2010 at 6:38 pm
Plain & simple: John Herrera is a hired douche bag. He’s a lame shameful example of Raider management. He’s obviously Al Davis’ #1 lapdog and a$$wiper – keeper of the drool rag.
John, you are wanted in the backroom. Al is done and he needs help getting off the pot. Your services are needed immediately – Al’s getting a little cranky. Give him a little reach around while you are there.
January 6th, 2010 at 6:40 pm
Russell giving the finger to the “fans”?
http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii195/davpdesign/vegas2010.jpg
January 6th, 2010 at 6:44 pm
Russell is a good kid struggling to adjust to big city life in the bay area, and the bright lights and intense scrutiny of being a number one draft pick. Im sure that he can get in touch with people in mobile that will set him straight, I hope he is still willing to listen. Look at this clip, then add this information to the ability he was born with, then review your opinion of him.
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2m50t_outside-the-lines-jamarcus-russell_sport
Small town kid caught up in the hype.
January 6th, 2010 at 6:49 pm
Jabustus is just like one guy every year. He stinks he’s terrible he needs to go
January 6th, 2010 at 6:50 pm
…Somewhere deep within the walls of the Raider headquarters sits Tom Cable, John Hererra, Art Shell and Al Davis…
Davis: So Tom, did you pass my message to Jamahcus at todays final team meetin?
Cable: Uh, no sir. Jamarcus send me a text- here it is **Hey TC, can’t come today bro cuz I gots a sore belly. Holla atcha L8r.**
Davis hands the phone to Hererra “RRAAAGHH”
Herrera reaches behind Als desk and grabs the bloodied Lousville slugger, tosses up the phone and swings at it, corkscrewing himself around and also connecting with Davis’ desk falling onto the floor.
Debris sprays all over Cable and Shell.
Davis: Can we freeze his accounts.
Hererra: No sir.
Davis: John I want you to go– *phone ringing*
Davis motions toward John: Pick it up!
-After 20 seconds Hererra hangs up and turns to Al: Jamarcus is in Vegas and he’s not alone… it Marcus, Marcus Allen.
Davis: Son of a… Tom, pour us some scotch and light me a cigar.
Davis: John go to his house, here’s the alarm code, and your going to plant the package we had for Gannon’s car and place it in his fridge. Rig it so it blows as soon as the frige opens again.
32 Million, cawwwksucka!!
January 6th, 2010 at 6:55 pm
Unreal. Most teams would take a former MVP’s offer for help with gratitude and class… BUT NOT THE RAIDERS! Herrera is a cancer…Al is beyond his years, and we continue to stockpile first round guaranteed money grabbers who don’t want to do what it takes to become legitimate NFL players. After 25 years… I think it’s high time for me to find another team. This is just unacceptable. GOODBYE RAIDERS organization! Your going down the toilet where you and your management belong!
January 6th, 2010 at 6:59 pm
Watch this promo piece: See the entire community line up to be on the possee. When he was announced as the #1 pick, they all knew they had hit LOTTO.
Maybe when JaBustus returns to Oakland, he should have Mama & GrandMa move in with him in Oakland to keep him in line and squared away.
I found this whole promotional piece very self serving and questionable at best. If I were JaBustus, I’d keep the uncle away from my wallet.
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2m50t_outside-the-lines-jamarcus-russell_sport
January 6th, 2010 at 6:59 pm
say what you will, but the raiders are anything but boring.
January 6th, 2010 at 7:03 pm
This gannon thing reminds of fassel begging for a job. Gannon was a pupil of hackett, what can he offer that hackett doesnt? Good question. Do you expect the raiders to fire hackett and hire gannon. By the way the raiders are right gannon played the worst super bowl I have ever seen. He made tony eason, and neil odonnel look like joe montana. I am suspicious of what happened after gruden left, and gannon lost his job to collins, im sure gannon wasnt ready to retire. He probably is pissed with al for not brining him back like alot of ex raiders are.
January 6th, 2010 at 7:11 pm
jb,
seriously? The guy comes from a family that loves him and a support network that helped get to the number 1 draft spot. Some one with a solid citizen background should have what it takes to right the ship. i only posted the clip in response to the people that question his character. we are not talking about pac man jones, or chris henry. No.2 is not a bad guy, the proper question is about his motivation. What motivated him then and has it changed? Also this shows the kind of back woods type community he is from. Lsu is in Baton Rouge, also a back water sleepy place. You give a kid 32 mil, and the culture shock of a life time, it is easy to see how he could get caught up. Hopefully the people that truly love him can help him get his feet back on the ground. never mind all the extras in that piece. nevermind the yes men he rolls with here in the town.
January 6th, 2010 at 7:11 pm
Crister Says:
January 6th, 2010 at 6:59 pm
say what you will, but the raiders are anything but boring.
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That’s for sure. Al Davis is a wrinkled up old Drama Queen
http://images.huffingtonpost.com/gen/123234/AL-DAVIS.jpg
January 6th, 2010 at 7:24 pm
KoolKell Says:
January 6th, 2010 at 6:40 pm
Russell giving the finger to the “fans”?
http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii195/davpdesign/vegas2010.jpg”
What does this even mean Kell? That photo is clearly photoshopped. That photo is from last summer…
January 6th, 2010 at 7:33 pm
Regarding the following post:
“captainblakck,
I have seen the greatness of Russell. i saw it when he was in college, he was amazing. we have all seen flashes here in the pro’s. 2 come from behind 4th quarter wins to knock out play off contenders at the end of 08. Also this year last second wins, in k.c, denver, and should have got the win in sd. he did that despite playing for one of the worst teams in the league! O-line is terrible, rookie receivers, and no running game to speak of, what could anyone realistically expect? Teach him what he needs to know and give him the help he needs, then we can properly judge him.”
WOW!!! Are you kidding me. Did you watch the same games I did??? Please if you have these games on VCR or if NFL network replays them please look at his actual performance. I mean JR made what they in Tennis call many many *unforced errors* If I have to be blind and dumb and out of reality to be a Raiders fan then I am getting off this bus. Come on enough with the excuses. He was the main reason there was no running game!!!! They could confidently stack the box because they had no fear that JR would burn them or if he did it would be rare enough to be worth it. If I had to scheme against the Raiders with JR that is certaintly be what I would do. I know anything I say here will not effect the “true believer” but please be objective and really look at his actual play – he was terrible!!! Were there other problems – of course but you need to look at his actual play! Cutler for instance is a QB that you could make excuses for with what he had in Chicago but JR was just flat out bad even with the problems.
Also JH reply to Gannon shows how small and petty the Raiders have become! Why not say something postive such as “Gannon was a great player for us and it is great that he is interested in seeing us get better just like we all are.”
January 6th, 2010 at 7:41 pm
1960AutumnWind Says:
January 6th, 2010 at 7:33 pm
Also JH reply to Gannon shows how small and petty the Raiders have become! Why not say something postive such as “Gannon was a great player for us and it is great that he is interested in seeing us get better just like we all are.”
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Exactly.
January 6th, 2010 at 7:42 pm
mistic1
I have no doubt that he was the high note of the area. If his Mom & Grandma were really concerned, I’d think that they’d certainly 1. be aware of what the majority of the nation thinks about him, 2. Would want to make sure he didn’t do anything stupid to jeopardize this great gift that he has received & 3.do whatever it took to turn him around. I also understand that this was filmed BEFORE the fact rather than AFTER the fact. It would be extremely interesting to go back there now & re-film. I wonder what the folks would be saying? BTW, I still wouldn’t trust the uncle with my wallet.
Some of your points made were valid – especially the part about the naive backwoods culture. I would think his agent would be going out of his way to make sure JaBustus doesn’t screw the golden goose. I’m afraid that goose is now a dead duck.
January 6th, 2010 at 7:42 pm
trade JaMarcus for Jushua Cribbs
January 6th, 2010 at 7:43 pm
Al has become so dilussional he can’t see what a joke his beloved franchise has become and with silver mullet handling the PR he is just adding fuel to the fire.
January 6th, 2010 at 7:46 pm
Two other quick points about JR
1. Remember they spent the entire pre-season emphasizing the passing game and he still sucked, and
2. If they would have benched JR after the pre-season for his terrible performance the Raiders likely would have been playing for a wildcard last Sunday. By the way it is not just me that believes this, even Pat Kirwin said the Raiders would have at least been 6-6 after 12 games on NFL network if they did this.
January 6th, 2010 at 7:54 pm
Mistic1:
Thanks for the clip.
It pretty much reaffirms what I’ve been saying about JaMarcus all along.
A good kid with his heart in the right place.
An immature kid. A really immature kid.
An embarrassed kid who doesn’t know how to handle 20 microphones & camera’s in his face after a poor performance.
These things don’t make you a bad person.
They don’t make you “JaWalruss” or “JaFatass”.
People who repeatedly make these sorts of comments are asshoeles.
He’s not a good football player right now.
Whether he will be or not is entirely up to him, and up to the Raiders to put some ultimatums out there for him.
January 6th, 2010 at 7:55 pm
# La Milicia Negra Says:
January 6th, 2010 at 7:42 pm
trade JaMarcus for Jushua Cribbs
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They’ve already have their own anchor – Brady Quinn. Why would they want another Albatross around their neck?
January 6th, 2010 at 8:01 pm
We Raider fans……we have short memories……..we must remember that Jabubbagump can throw 70 yards sitting down…….
January 6th, 2010 at 8:01 pm
JB, i know, maybe they regret picking him so much they think JR is the answer =) LOL
January 6th, 2010 at 8:04 pm
Silver-n-Smac Says:
They don’t make you “JaWalruss” or “JaFatass”.
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They do when you make 10 mil/year and show up to camp fat and out of shape.
January 6th, 2010 at 8:05 pm
RaiderDogg Says:
January 6th, 2010 at 7:24 pm
KoolKell Says:
January 6th, 2010 at 6:40 pm
Russell giving the finger to the “fans”?
http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii195/davpdesign/vegas2010.jpg”
What does this even mean Kell? That photo is clearly photoshopped. That photo is from last summer…
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Oh.
January 6th, 2010 at 8:05 pm
# Frank YoooooooLLL Says:
January 6th, 2010 at 8:01 pm
We Raider fans……we have short memories……..we must remember that Jabubbagump can throw 70 yards sitting down…….
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lol, yeah what they forgot to mention when they reported that, was if he actually could hit anything…
I rather have an WCO WB that hist everytiime for 20yds than a guy like JR =) LOL
January 6th, 2010 at 8:07 pm
Hey Slime ball Hererra
The last time the Oakland Raiders could win more than two games in a row was with Rich Gannon!!!!!!!!!
New Flash it’s YOU & Al Davis that needs the help, EVERYONE knows it. Al should do everyone a favor and fire you next, then cut himself.
January 6th, 2010 at 8:09 pm
i want Jushua cribbs, cant we trade DHB and JR for Cribbs and Derek Anderson??
January 6th, 2010 at 8:10 pm
1960AutumnWind Says:
January 6th, 2010 at 7:33 pm
Also JH reply to Gannon shows how small and petty the Raiders have become! Why not say something postive such as “Gannon was a great player for us and it is great that he is interested in seeing us get better just like we all are.”
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Totally classless! But Davis has always been that way. Ask the McGah and Valley families. He got away with it because they were winning.
January 6th, 2010 at 8:10 pm
# Carl Weathers Says:
January 6th, 2010 at 8:04 pm
Silver-n-Smac Says:
They don’t make you “JaWalruss” or “JaFatass”.
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They do when you make 10 mil/year and show up to camp fat and out of shape.
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No moron – They don’t.
January 6th, 2010 at 8:10 pm
We would have to trade Fat Boy (JaMarcus), DHB & McFadden. All excellent Al Davis picks to even smell a Cribbs fart.
How that for help Hererra.
January 6th, 2010 at 8:12 pm
# KoolKell Says:
January 6th, 2010 at 8:10 pm
Totally classless! But Davis has always been that way. Ask the McGah and Valley families. He got away with it because they were winning.
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Koolkell:
I agree with you on this one, absolutely.
But, don’t you think it’s also kinda ignorant of Gannon to make a public offer like that, knowing full well the Raider brass seems to despise him?
Seems pretty naive if you ask me.
January 6th, 2010 at 8:12 pm
We need to make “fire John Hererra now”
T-shirts, I hate that guy.
January 6th, 2010 at 8:14 pm
All you can do is offer, Rich. As a fan, allow me to say that I for one appreciate your efforts. Evidently Herrera doesn’t believe the Raiders need you. Fair enough. Sit back and enjoy the train wreck, Rich. You’ve earned it. Because you TRIED to help.
January 6th, 2010 at 8:15 pm
John Hererra is no different than Carmen Policy.
Policy was nothing but a little slime ball who did nothing but have his head deep into Eddie D’s ass.
He wore the slick suits and came off as a snuggly little bear.
All he was was an ass-kissing tool who knew nothing about football.
January 6th, 2010 at 8:16 pm
Great pic raiderdav lol that piece of crap of a qb with a bag of mcdonalds lol hey fatass a lil less mcd’s you might of been able to run away from those sacks you piece of crap
January 6th, 2010 at 8:16 pm
# The Real MaddenRaider Says:
January 6th, 2010 at 8:14 pm
All you can do is offer, Rich. As a fan, allow me to say that I for one appreciate your efforts. Evidently Herrera doesn’t believe the Raiders need you. Fair enough. Sit back and enjoy the train wreck, Rich. You’ve earned it. Because you TRIED to help.
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Dude – you are so lame.
You are to Rich Gannon what John Herrera is to Al Davis.
An ass-kissing idiot.
January 6th, 2010 at 8:18 pm
Tell you what. John Herrera and Al Davis are starting to make it hard to stay a Raider fan. I read this story and my face just turned flush with anger. This never ending drama is just flat spirit breaking. What makes it worse is Cable said this morning on the radio that Russell told him he needed to be excused to go to Mobile for a family matter. Unreal. When will all this B.S. end?
January 6th, 2010 at 8:18 pm
Ya know. . . .
I’m willing to bet that half you fools who refer to JaMarcus as “JaWalrus” or “JaFatass” are a bunch of over-weight fiucks yourselves.
January 6th, 2010 at 8:19 pm
Guys, when are all of these true Raiders like Howie Long going to offer their help? Same goes for Madden. A namechange for me might be in order. Gannon’s offer to help goes a long way. Madden wants nothing to do with Davis. Nobody does. Well, nobody that actually CAN help.
January 6th, 2010 at 8:19 pm
A guy with venom towards Rich Gannon is calling another guy an idiot??? Pot calling the kettle black.
January 6th, 2010 at 8:19 pm
Maybe Al could have Herrera report to Cable. That way Cable could send the appropriate messages to JaBustus in a format he’d likely understand. That of course assumes that Cable and JaBustus are still there.
I suspect that at least one of the two won’t be back. Based on Herrera’s statement to the press regarding Viva La JaBustus, I surmise that TC better be packing his bags. Actually, I don’t think AD will dump TC unless he already has someone who has said yes to the HC job.
January 6th, 2010 at 8:19 pm
# Dude Says:
January 6th, 2010 at 8:18 pm
Tell you what. John Herrera and Al Davis are starting to make it hard to stay a Raider fan. I read this story and my face just turned flush with anger. This never ending drama is just flat spirit breaking. What makes it worse is Cable said this morning on the radio that Russell told him he needed to be excused to go to Mobile for a family matter. Unreal. When will all this B.S. end?
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What radio station did you hear Cable on?
January 6th, 2010 at 8:21 pm
I’ve never met Rich Gannon. Never will. How can I kiss his ass, in the metaphorical sense? To kiss someone’s ass is to be nice to them in order to stay in good standing. I’m not around Rich. Don’t work for him. I’m just speaking as a fan. Herrera, on the other hand, works for Al Davis. And is one serious kiss ass.
January 6th, 2010 at 8:21 pm
I am 6′3 200 lbs and Jaburger is a fat ass so you lose the bet. Pay up.
January 6th, 2010 at 8:21 pm
Sirius
January 6th, 2010 at 8:22 pm
# Dude Says:
January 6th, 2010 at 8:19 pm
A guy with venom towards Rich Gannon is calling another guy an idiot??? Pot calling the kettle black.
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Dude – who are you talking about?
I loved Rich Gannon as a Raider.
And I also think it’s comical that he makes this offer when he knows full well the Raiders want no part of him.
You ever heard of the saying “two things can be equally true”?
January 6th, 2010 at 8:24 pm
# Dude Says:
January 6th, 2010 at 8:21 pm
I am 6′3 200 lbs and Jaburger is a fat ass so you lose the bet. Pay up.
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You win that one. LOL But I did say “half”. And I bet it’s more than half.
Man. . . .I can’t think of a player I ever despised more than Marc Wilson (not as a person – but as a player).
And yet. . .he was a Raider. . .
And yet. . .I didn’t get off by calling him names.
January 6th, 2010 at 8:25 pm
I think the interview I heard was a replay from the night before.
January 6th, 2010 at 8:26 pm
I dont make a habit of calling him names either but I have before so figured I would try and get paid.
January 6th, 2010 at 8:28 pm
It’s more Cable’s fault than it is Russell. IF we’re going to play this game and pretend it’s not Al’s fault, or just accept that Al’s never going to leave, whatever, and drop blame elsewhere, it has to be the next in command in regards to football decisions, and that is Tom Cable. Tom Cable could have benched Russell. Can an owner fire a head coach for cause just for benching a player? That seems performance related, to me. That seems like it would be tough for Al to demonstrate as “cause” in an arbitration hearing. After all, what is a coach? How does the league, or arbitration, to be more specific, define a “head coach”? Kiffin tried to fire someone, so that hurts him. Anyhow, my point is, there is so much Cable could have done as a head coach. He’s a weak puppet. Either that or Al really gave him control and he himself decided to play Russell all year, and ground an effective run game. Either way, bye, Cable.
January 6th, 2010 at 8:29 pm
It’s time to yank the cable out of the ground and get a dish.
January 6th, 2010 at 8:32 pm
Raideralex909:
Of course it’s his fault! When the hell did I ever say otherwise?
If you’ve read my posts about JaMarcus, I’ve repeatedly said that he’s a young kid, a good kid, who continues to make all the WRONG decisions.
He’s been a horrible football player and not a good teammate. He has not been a horrible guy.
He’s young and immature.
But he’s human, and believe it or not, people do mature over time and do improve themselves as human beings, regardless if they work at Walmart or run the freakin’ NFL.
The ball’s in his court. Either he steps up this off-season, grows up, works hard like a mother-fioker, or his career’s over.
Simple as that.
He wouldn’t be the first 24 year old who just doesn’t get it yet.
He may never get it.
But I don’t know that and neither do you.
I’m not making any excuses for him. Bottom line is that he’s started about 28 football games in his career (not even 2 years).
In most of those games, he’s sucked.
But anybody with a good heart can take a look in the mirror and improve themselves if they care enough.
Just curious – why do you suppose a guy like Cliff Branch sucked until year #3?
Why did Kenny Stabler not start until year #5?
The bottom line is that regardless of the money being thrown in his face, different people evolve in different ways.
JaMarcus may be the next Ryan Leif and he may be the next Vince Young.
We’ll see. . . . . .
January 6th, 2010 at 8:36 pm
It’s not Russell’s fault. Russell doesn’t put himself into the lineup. Cable could have started Gradkowski in week 3, when it was obvious Russell isn’t ready to start and may very well be a bust. You play your best players, always. On the head coach. Can an owner fire a head coach for “cause” just for benching a player? Kiffin tried to fire Rob Ryan. That’s what’s going to burn him. But benching someone? That seems performance related. Al can fire him for it, but he has to pay him. Point being, Cable had no excuse to play Russell when it was obvoius Russell wasn’t the best QB on our roster, other than that he buckled under Al’s pressure. Useless puppet coach. So I, as a fan, would like to see him gone. No puppet is going to get this team anywhere, considering they’re a puppet for an 80 year old man who has no clue what he’s doing. The only other scenario is that Al gave Cable control and he made all of these decisions on his own, which would also be even more reason to kick his fat ass back to the linemen’s sled, where he belongs.
January 6th, 2010 at 8:37 pm
I have a new nickname for Cable, btw.
JaFatass.
We have two Jafatasses. And, the QB probably needs to go, too. But anyone with a brain knows that HC JaFatass definitely has to go.
January 6th, 2010 at 8:48 pm
Typical answer from John “the Tool” Hererra regarding Gannon.
More confirmation that John Herrera is a piece of crap!
We should call Raider Headquarters and ask to be transferred to Herrara and tell him he is a piece of crap!
I think I might do that within the week actually! LOL
January 6th, 2010 at 8:50 pm
Hey Jerry and Steve,
The next time you talk to Herrera, be sure to ask him if he knows that the Raider Nation fans think he is a piece of crap. Ask him….I would love to hear the response.
January 6th, 2010 at 8:51 pm
# Shawnraiders81 Says:
January 6th, 2010 at 8:07 pm
Hey Slime ball Hererra
The last time the Oakland Raiders could win more than two games in a row was with Rich Gannon!!!!!!!!!
New Flash it’s YOU & Al Davis that needs the help, EVERYONE knows it. Al should do everyone a favor and fire you next, then cut himself.
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Exactly!
January 6th, 2010 at 8:52 pm
Rich Gannon, was at best disengenuous and at least a self serving egotistical jerk. He knows the Raiders want nothing to do with his self serving attitude. He knows there is very little that he can do that isn’t already getting done. But this empty jesture gets the ignorant fans who jump at every opportunity attack anything and everything. This guy doesn’t want to help he wants to stir up crap and that is exactly what he did.
If he really wanted to help this would never have been made public, but it served him well with idiots in here. More reasons why I have zero respect for the opinions of fans. There no more sophysticated than a mob at an ancient coliseum watching and screaming their approval as men and women are being slaughtered.
They react to every story with the same jaded eye of suspicion and disregard for anything that doesn’t agree with their predisposed ideas and opinions.
I guess the only thing they’re really capable of is humping each others pooorly thought out and uninformed opinions.
January 6th, 2010 at 8:54 pm
Priest,
Do you REALLY condone John Herreras behavior in dealing with Gannon?
January 6th, 2010 at 8:54 pm
priesttj Says:
January 6th, 2010 at 8:52 pm
Rich Gannon, was at best disengenuous and at least a self serving egotistical jerk.
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An of course, Al Davis is none of those things.
January 6th, 2010 at 8:55 pm
Good idea to call John Herrera. (510) 864-5000
January 6th, 2010 at 8:56 pm
Call them all. 510 864 5000
January 6th, 2010 at 8:57 pm
Very little Gannon can do that isn’t already being done? Like what? When Gannon first came here as a QB, the first thing he did was throw all of the video games and toys away in the locker room. I imagine he’ll start there. Gannon will basically straighten the place out. When he sees guys goofing around, he’ll tell them to study film or work out. He’ll remind them that this football team hasn’t won more than 5 games in a season SINCE HE WAS IT’S TEAM CAPTAIN, so if they have any objections…
January 6th, 2010 at 8:59 pm
MR,
Serious question here. Do you think there is a chance that Priest works for the Raiders? I seriously think he does based on his posts here and his recent blame Cable campaign on the radio.
January 6th, 2010 at 9:00 pm
Dude how funny is that. John Herrera is still up al’s bum. Well all I hope is that Al losses so much money next season that he is forced to sell the team or just die first so we can start joining the 21st century and win again. Gannon is dead on about the Raiders. We are a mess. Another Sad Season for the Nation.
January 6th, 2010 at 9:01 pm
# Raider guy Says:
January 6th, 2010 at 8:55 pm
Good idea to call John Herrera. (510) 864-5000
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Oh trust me…I have called before.
I use to leave voice messages on Grudens voice mail suggesting to use Woodson on offense every now and then to confuse defenses and keep them off balance. He used Woodson on offense two weeks after I suggested it to him.
Gruden and Gannon were great and were WINNERS!
Al Davis, John Herrera and the rest of the dumb old mans CRONIES are stubborn LOSERS who SUCK!
January 6th, 2010 at 9:01 pm
If he really wanted to help this would never have been made public, but it served him well with idiots in here. More reasons why I have zero respect for the opinions of fans. There no more sophysticated than a mob at an ancient coliseum watching and screaming their approval as men and women are being slaughtered.
They react to every story with the same jaded eye of suspicion and disregard for anything that doesn’t agree with their predisposed ideas and opinions.
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Now, who does it sound like is being described here? And guess who wrote it? LMFAO! What a f’n hypocrite!
January 6th, 2010 at 9:01 pm
Dude, priest calls KSFO after games and usually sounds wasted. So, it’s possible.
January 6th, 2010 at 9:03 pm
# priesttj Says:
January 6th, 2010 at 8:52 pm
Rich Gannon, was at best disengenuous and at least a self serving egotistical jerk. He knows the Raiders want nothing to do with his self serving attitude. He knows there is very little that he can do that isn’t already getting done. But this empty jesture gets the ignorant fans who jump at every opportunity attack anything and everything. This guy doesn’t want to help he wants to stir up crap and that is exactly what he did.
If he really wanted to help this would never have been made public, but it served him well with idiots in here. More reasons why I have zero respect for the opinions of fans. There no more sophysticated than a mob at an ancient coliseum watching and screaming their approval as men and women are being slaughtered.
They react to every story with the same jaded eye of suspicion and disregard for anything that doesn’t agree with their predisposed ideas and opinions.
I guess the only thing they’re really capable of is humping each others pooorly thought out and uninformed opinions.
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You unappreciative Al Davis lap dog.
Loser….
January 6th, 2010 at 9:03 pm
MR-I know I hear him. The guy doesnt even realize the hosts are making fun of him. Its almost sad. That is, if it werent so funny.
January 6th, 2010 at 9:03 pm
Unreal. Sleazeball Hererra still dogging on Gannon. And dumsh1ts like priesttj eating it all up. Gannon did more for the Raiders than Herrera will EVER do. Gannon did more for the Raiders than that fat lazy slob of a QB will ever do. Yet all these morons show for it is hate.
January 6th, 2010 at 9:03 pm
Yeh, Raider fans have no reason to be jaded or suspicious.
January 6th, 2010 at 9:04 pm
I don’t see a problem with what John Herrera said. Who does Rich think he is? Does he think he is better than Paul H? Why does he jeep going public with his offers?
January 6th, 2010 at 9:05 pm
So, Dude, I would say priest is probably just a season ticket holder and a believer, due to his pattern of calling in drunk. But then again, it’s not like there aren’t Raider employees getting smashed during the game and making asses out of themselves afterward on radio shows, either. We all remember Artie G.
January 6th, 2010 at 9:06 pm
# Dude Says:
January 6th, 2010 at 9:03 pm
MR-I know I hear him. The guy doesnt even realize the hosts are making fun of him. Its almost sad. That is, if it werent so funny.
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And that’s even more sad than the crap he’s spreading in here. Every time that moron calls into a show I cringe. He sets collective Raider fan back 50 IQ points every time he opens his mouth. I think the hosts actually enjoy it. Probably nice to break up the monotony with a cracked-out wacko every now and then.
January 6th, 2010 at 9:06 pm
Raider O, did Gannon only offer to be QB coach? I thought he offered to help out in any way? I can think of a million things Gannon would do that HAcket just doesn’t have the balls to do, when it comes to changing the atmosphere around here. All I can say is, JaMarcus had better enjoy is Big Macs while he has them.
January 6th, 2010 at 9:06 pm
Keep*
I like Rich as an Ex Raider Player, but how can he help?
January 6th, 2010 at 9:07 pm
Try Some Reality Says:
January 6th, 2010 at 9:01 pm
If he really wanted to help this would never have been made public, but it served him well with idiots in here. More reasons why I have zero respect for the opinions of fans. There no more sophysticated than a mob at an ancient coliseum watching and screaming their approval as men and women are being slaughtered.
They react to every story with the same jaded eye of suspicion and disregard for anything that doesn’t agree with their predisposed ideas and opinions.
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Should have never have made it public??
Why the hell not?? Ohh…cause it hurts the old mans and his cronie Herreras feelings?
Poor babys….give me a break.
Al Davis and his cronies are a joke!
January 6th, 2010 at 9:07 pm
Patience is a virtue most fans do not possess. There is much wisdom waiting until FACTS are revealed but of course that belies the description of the word fanatic. Wisdom is not a quality they value.
January 6th, 2010 at 9:08 pm
Or personality characteristic….
January 6th, 2010 at 9:08 pm
Gannon to Russell, while eating tofu,
“Good, isn’t it? Come on, it’s not that bad. After this, desert. Organic blueberries! Then it’s another half hour on the treadmill! Fun, right?”
January 6th, 2010 at 9:08 pm
If he really cares about helping the Raiders, then why is he doing what Al hates the most? Involving the Media!
January 6th, 2010 at 9:09 pm
I’m thinking Gannon wants to be sort of like what Apollo Creed was to Rocky in Rocky III. And I’ve never been in more support of anything in my life. “There is no tomorrow!!!”
January 6th, 2010 at 9:10 pm
# The Real MaddenRaider Says:
January 6th, 2010 at 9:06 pm
Raider O, did Gannon only offer to be QB coach? I thought he offered to help out in any way? I can think of a million things Gannon would do that HAcket just doesn’t have the balls to do, when it comes to changing the atmosphere around here. All I can say is, JaMarcus had better enjoy is Big Macs while he has them.
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Exactly. Gannon wasn’t liked by some of his teammates because he was too demanding. Poor babies. Used to Davis’ coddling. Gannon wouldn’t just stand by as Russell missed OTAs and stuffed his face with donuts. He’d be all over that.
January 6th, 2010 at 9:10 pm
Patience= 7 years of 10+ loss seasons.
Shut up Priest. Everybody is sick of reading your Pro Al Davis garbage on here.
January 6th, 2010 at 9:11 pm
Raider O, he’s politicking. He’s letting the world know that he’s offering to help this team, so when the Raiders try to say he’s bashing them, he’s on record offering to help. The only way for the Raiders to expose Gannon as a fraud is to take him up on his offer and give him a job, and for him to waffle out. Then Herrera would be right. But we’ll never know until they meet with him.
January 6th, 2010 at 9:12 pm
# Dude Says:
January 6th, 2010 at 9:10 pm
Patience= 7 years of 10+ loss seasons.
Shut up Priest. Everybody is sick of reading your Pro Al Davis garbage on here.
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He almost makes it too easy, doesn’t he? Patience? ROFL!
January 6th, 2010 at 9:12 pm
DK,
People have their own agendas, and it is odd that he keeps offering his help and going public with it after the Raiders showed they were not interested. IMHO
January 6th, 2010 at 9:12 pm
Silver-N-Smac Says:
January 6th, 2010 at 8:18 pm
Ya know. . . .
I’m willing to bet that half you fools who refer to JaMarcus as “JaWalrus” or “JaFatass” are a bunch of over-weight fiucks yourselves.
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Agreed.
January 6th, 2010 at 9:13 pm
Silver N smac, which Jafatass are you talking about? Russell, or Cable?
January 6th, 2010 at 9:13 pm
# Try Some Reality Says:
January 6th, 2010 at 9:03 pm
Unreal. Sleazeball Hererra still dogging on Gannon. And dumsh1ts like priesttj eating it all up. Gannon did more for the Raiders than Herrera will EVER do. Gannon did more for the Raiders than that fat lazy slob of a QB will ever do. Yet all these morons show for it is hate.
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It’s not “all these morons” just a select few of Al Davis and John Herrera worshippers who need to be exorcised of the evil demons possessing them and their idiotic ways. LOL
January 6th, 2010 at 9:14 pm
IMO, it is a bit egotistical for Gannon to offer his help through the media, and is good for a little free advertising for his radio show.
But I’m sure he honestly believes he can help. He was never the most talented QB, and was successful through hard work. That’s what he knows.
Who knows, maybe his request was blocked before it even got to Al. Going through the media guarantees Al will know about his offer.
January 6th, 2010 at 9:14 pm
LMAO at # 126 MR
January 6th, 2010 at 9:15 pm
priesttj Says:
January 6th, 2010 at 9:07 pm
Patience is a virtue most fans do not possess. There is much wisdom waiting until FACTS are revealed but of course that belies the description of the word fanatic. Wisdom is not a quality they value.
How about seven years of patience?
January 6th, 2010 at 9:15 pm
Where did Albert find this Herrera cat anyway? Is there any other team in the league that would publicly dog and clown on a former player? A good player at that. Anyone that would stoop to this level? WOW. Unreal!
January 6th, 2010 at 9:15 pm
Raider O, the only way to expose Gannon as having an agenda, or whatever, is to take him up on his offer. Offer him a job. If he waffles out, then he most certainly has an agenda, and was probably being sarcastic and making fun of the team. The only way to know is to offer him a job. If the Raiders don’t, then they obviously think they’re too good for Rich Gannon. Do you believe that? That we wouldn’t use Rich around the facility, straightening things out?
January 6th, 2010 at 9:17 pm
Raider O, LMAO at the Raiders current organization. Gannon would make it all less funny, that’s for sure. People don’t like him. But one thing he’s proven to do is straighten teams out.
January 6th, 2010 at 9:18 pm
You know whats sobering to think about?
This offseason there are a bunch of great coaches available(Gruden, Shanahan, Holmgren, Cowher) and the worst franchise in need of the most help(the Raiders) has ZERO chance of landing any of them. Freakn sucks.
January 6th, 2010 at 9:18 pm
Do NOT be stupid enough to buy season tickets fellas.
Not until a REAL GM is hired and a REAL Head Coach that will clean house is hired (that means firing you Herrera and you Hanson) that will prove REAL positive change is happening.
Otherwise don’t waste your hard earned money on someone trying to sell you a lemon! LOL
January 6th, 2010 at 9:19 pm
Priest, patience is a virtue? What patience did you have Sunday when you called KSFO and complained about Cable ditching the run game? Everyone has to have patience except for you? Hogwash!
January 6th, 2010 at 9:19 pm
NorthernD,
You may have a point with his request being declined before Reaching Al, but Ego makes more sense to me.
January 6th, 2010 at 9:20 pm
Here was a sobering thought for me: my kid was born in 2003, the kid is six and there have been 5 coaches since she has been born…maybe six by monday. How can someone see that and not think, “maybe the issue isn’t the coaching…”
January 6th, 2010 at 9:20 pm
# KoolKell Says:
January 6th, 2010 at 9:12 pm
Silver-N-Smac Says:
January 6th, 2010 at 8:18 pm
Ya know. . . .
I’m willing to bet that half you fools who refer to JaMarcus as “JaWalrus” or “JaFatass” are a bunch of over-weight fiucks yourselves.
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Agreed.
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Wrong. Gym guy here. Toned with athletic build. And yes, I call Russell JaFatboy, JaMarshmallow, JaBeafcake, Michelin Man, Doughboy, JaFatburger, you name it. He’s a fat lazy POS that has STOLEN 30+ million from this team.
I work 40+ hours per week and find time to get myself in shape. That fat POS gets payed to play a friggin game!!!! And yet he can’t find time to get himself in shape. Lazy chump!
January 6th, 2010 at 9:21 pm
I would guess Gannon tried and got no answer, then went public. But they obviously need some help. no?
The 80yr old GM produces this:
09′ 5-11
08′ 5-11
07′ 4-12
06′ 2-14
05′ 4-12
04′ 5-11
03′ 4-12
5 Head Coaches, 8 Starting QB’s.
January 6th, 2010 at 9:21 pm
Only one way to find out, Raider O. You want to talk about agendas, you’re accusing Gannon of being self serving without any proof of your own. So far, you’re the only one with an agenda. Why don’t the Raiders at least meet with Gannon to see what he’s suggesting?
January 6th, 2010 at 9:21 pm
# Dude Says:
January 6th, 2010 at 9:18 pm
You know whats sobering to think about?
This offseason there are a bunch of great coaches available(Gruden, Shanahan, Holmgren, Cowher) and the worst franchise in need of the most help(the Raiders) has ZERO chance of landing any of them. Freakn sucks.
^^^^^^^^^^
Pathetic isn’t it??
January 6th, 2010 at 9:22 pm
Ever notice how it’s the people accusing others of having an agenda who always have the agenda themselves? See: Raider O.
January 6th, 2010 at 9:22 pm
MR,
If you owned a business, would you hire anyone who asks for a job, or would you hire qualified people?
Hire rich as what? Has he coached at any level?
January 6th, 2010 at 9:23 pm
When said player continues to bash and embarrass tthe organization he professes to want to help in the media. At some point that organization will act out of it’s own interest real or percieved.
Gannon was abusive in his criticisms they weren’t of the “Oh! I want to help” nature they were self serving and meant to excuse the fact that he threw away a SB. He’s a fraud………..period
If you really want to help shutup and do it……..period If they don’t want you let it go!!!
January 6th, 2010 at 9:24 pm
MR,
I have my own Agenda:
Legalize It!!!!!! lol
January 6th, 2010 at 9:24 pm
Raider O,
MR makes a good point.
Offer him a job.
That way we’ll know if he’s just promoting his show, or he’s legitimate.
The next question would, where do you put him, and what does he do? (that’s two questions)
January 6th, 2010 at 9:26 pm
Raider guy Says:
January 6th, 2010 at 9:20 pm
Here was a sobering thought for me: my kid was born in 2003, the kid is six and there have been 5 coaches since she has been born…maybe six by monday. How can someone see that and not think, “maybe the issue isn’t the coaching…”
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But one great coach can overcome the other faults. (Gruden)
January 6th, 2010 at 9:26 pm
Northern D Good lord, give him some fake title like willie brown has.
January 6th, 2010 at 9:26 pm
Norther D I couldn’t agree with you more!
January 6th, 2010 at 9:27 pm
Yep it is pathetic. Hell even the freakn Browns convinced Holmgren to come aboard. Holmgren would laugh his walrus ass off if someone from the Raiders called him.
January 6th, 2010 at 9:27 pm
MR,
Can you read?!
I didn’t accuse Gannon of anything.
I said his situation is ODD IMO, and PEOPLE HAVE THEIR OWN AGENDAS?
People!!!
January 6th, 2010 at 9:28 pm
Notice how Priest doesnt defend himself or reply to any posts?? He just randomly spews Pro Davis propoganda over and over.
January 6th, 2010 at 9:29 pm
Not only are the Raiders a bad team, but they are an embarrasing franchise on top of it all.
January 6th, 2010 at 9:29 pm
# Dude Says:
January 6th, 2010 at 9:27 pm
Yep it is pathetic. Hell even the freakn Browns convinced Holmgren to come aboard. Holmgren would laugh his walrus ass off if someone from the Raiders called him.
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LOL! Holmgren does look like a walrus.
January 6th, 2010 at 9:32 pm
Did any of you watch Rich Gannon when he played in Oakland. He gave us everything he had and then some.
He has been critical of the Raiders for the same reason most of us die hard fans are critical of the Raiders. Because they continue to be the laughing stock of the NFL and he is probably just as damn embarassed as we are by Al Davis and his stupid staff that only stay here because they can’t get jobs anywhere else.
If gannon wants to help bring his ass here give him some damn power and lets see if JokeMarcus can actually play QB !!!
The Raiders I have loved for the last 38 years are gone, and I’ll take anyone who can bring them back!!!!
January 6th, 2010 at 9:33 pm
To be honest, I don’t see what gannon can do that Kittin, Cable, Paul H, And Creg K couldn’t do?
If JR is such a loser and a bust according to most of you, then it doesn’t make much of a difference who is coaching him. IMO
January 6th, 2010 at 9:37 pm
I don’t know if Gannon would make a good coach. He was an overacheiving QB, so he has knowledge of the game and knows how to maximize player’s abilities.
But he might also be too tough on the player’s and expect the same level of intensity that he had.
Pete Rose was the ultimate hard worker, but was lousy as a manager (no betting jokes). He expected all his players to run through walls all the time. And they couldn’t.
Gannon might just be too demanding to be effective.
January 6th, 2010 at 9:39 pm
Should we hire Rich, or should we hire a real HC and let him pick his own staff??
Focus on the big pic!! Who cares about Gannom now?! We need a HC, better players, etc…
January 6th, 2010 at 9:39 pm
NorthernD, here’s a more sobering thought…
Ask your daughter if she can remember a time when the United States was not at war.
January 6th, 2010 at 9:41 pm
Raider O you are 100 percent correct it doesn’t matter who you bring in as coach jamarcus will still be a bum because he doesn’t care and doesn’t want to be great nor does he want to play here. Kobe bryant, micheal jordan, peyton manning, tom brady, tiger woods, the williams sisters and all other great players have a work ethic like no other. Jerry rice wasn’t great just off talent he was great because he worked to become great, nnamdi asomugha worked to be great, jamarcus will never reach this level of greatness because he doesn’t have the desire to be great nor the personality that suggest he ever will develop the mentality to be great. Jamarcus is a bum. He’s done. Get em the hell outta oakland.lol
January 6th, 2010 at 9:42 pm
Raider O, you are very correct in your assesment Sir. I would much rather bring in Harbaugh or go back and get Garcia to help. I know he means well.
Gannon is just tooting his own horn as if he’s some QB guru. We have the guru in place and now it’s a matter of keeping him in place to help the kid grow.
These guy’s would buy dirt for a $100 a lbs. if they thought it was anti-Davis. Suckers for any story that contradicts him. They are what we used to call, marks. They go for it every time.
January 6th, 2010 at 9:42 pm
Sweet. Lets turn it into “War” talk. Come here to get away from that stuff.
January 6th, 2010 at 9:43 pm
Harbaugh??? LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Yeah. I bet Harbaugh would sign up to be a part of this circus.
January 6th, 2010 at 9:44 pm
Funny how Priest will only respond to RaiderO, a self proclaimed homer and everyone else proclaimed fool.
January 6th, 2010 at 9:47 pm
BHP,
What’s Harbaugh’s relation with Davis? You know NFL’s history very well.
All I know that Al likes Harbaugh. lol
BTW, I like Harbaugh for HC. A good Football family.
January 6th, 2010 at 9:49 pm
Players come back and help this organization all the time, they just don’t make it public. They reach out and if they are needed the organization brings them in. The media is never the wiser. When Gannon and Tim Brown do it they want everyone to know it. That’s why it’s viewed as insincere. Just shutup come to him and offer your services and if he needs you he’ll let you know.
A player came in and starting working hard and wants to help he is well recieved. This player was rejected for obvious reasons he wants to showcase himself.
January 6th, 2010 at 9:49 pm
Homer & fool!!
I enjoy this blog. I get a good chat, insulted, and iformed at the same time.
Great Job Jerry.
January 6th, 2010 at 9:51 pm
I also find it funny! Thank you Jerry.
Talking Monkey aka Dude,
Do you want to talk football, or insult posters for their opinions?
January 6th, 2010 at 9:52 pm
Kirk Says:
January 6th, 2010 at 9:39 pm
NorthernD, here’s a more sobering thought…
Ask your daughter if she can remember a time when the United States was not at war.
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Wrong poster. I don’t have a daughter. Besides, I spent 10 years in the infantry. I rather blog about the Raiders.
January 6th, 2010 at 9:52 pm
The Harbaughs go back a few generations Big Al knows his father well. He hired Jim as a QB coach assitant and he was here for a year. They have tremendous respect for each other and at some point I see him coming in and helping. I don’t know how or when, I just see it, he loves the Raiders.
January 6th, 2010 at 9:52 pm
Oh RaiderO, come on now, if I wasnt callin you a fool youd think there was something wrong. LOL
Please dont buy into the Harbaugh thing. He is one of the hottest coaching prospects in the country. There is NO WAY he would come to the Raiders.
January 6th, 2010 at 9:53 pm
More Pro Davis propoganda spewed by Priest. It never ends.
January 6th, 2010 at 9:55 pm
Harbaugh is one of the “it” coaches now. He’ll get much better offers than what Al can give him.
January 6th, 2010 at 9:55 pm
LMAO Dude! You do have a point there.
January 6th, 2010 at 9:57 pm
and if when harbaugh goes 5-11 what are you guys gonna do?? suggest he be fired after one season too right??? F outta here… all you guys suggesting a new coach will solve our problems are bafoons. The players are gonna have to lean new schemes and warm up to the new coach and there’s no guarantee they’re going to like the new coach, and I doubt they will give him a fair shake because they really like tom cable. This team is easily broken and you’re talking of getting rid of the first coach since gruden that has them glued together. We didn’t win many games this year and its obvious to see it wasn’t coaching that was the number 1 downfall it was the sorry ass qb who cares about nothing but bling bling, fur coats, and trips to vegas than the damn team, but some fans are to blind to see that because they’re too busy sucking als chico stick to realize it.smh Cable is not the problem. And bringing in a new coach will set this team back because they believe in cable and they’re going to be pissed if he’s fired because of a qb they hate. you think they hate jamarcus now, but if cable is fired because of him they’re really not gonna play for his lard ass next season and you can kiss nnamdi good bye because he will surely leave for another team and I can’t blame em.As a matter of fact what ever team he goes to I will be cheering.
January 6th, 2010 at 9:59 pm
His brother is doing well with the Ravens, but that’s a different team.
He did a good job with Stanford, so why can’t he learn and become better as a Raider. He can’t do worse than Cable. IMO
January 6th, 2010 at 9:59 pm
AS little as I think of Cable he isnt close to the problem.
January 6th, 2010 at 10:00 pm
O,
Hes would never come to the Raiders. Good, smart coaches no longer consider the Raiders an option. Simple as that.
January 6th, 2010 at 10:01 pm
Is Priest John Herrera’s love child? Enquiring minds want to know.
I really have to agree that more often than not, Priest seems to be speewing the company line. Maybe he’s Herrera’s go to guy on this blog. Crazier things have happened.
January 6th, 2010 at 10:03 pm
Russell, Russell, Russell …. Russell farted!
LMFAO!
So Russell was in Vegas on company business? I bet that went over well with that haters, lol!
Guess that tweet to Cam Inman didn’t quite have the impact that player was expecting. I wonder what his next move will be?
January 6th, 2010 at 10:03 pm
JB,
After all the crazy things the Raiders have done lately would you be at all surprised that they had a mole in chat room forums??
January 6th, 2010 at 10:05 pm
I have a ton of respect for Gannon. He was our leader for 4 years and he won an MVP with us. Sure he threw 5 picks in our last S.B., but he was going against the #1 defense that year. He is truthful and he’ll tell it like it is. That is what JaMarcus Russell needs. He needs someone who tell him to his face what he needs to work on and Gannon won’t sugarcoat anything for the sake of Russell’s ego and complacency. Herrera is a dumbass for acting the way he does. Anyone else remember when he tried to get into a fight with Tim Kawakami? Al Davis is right about one thing, firing everyone and starting fresh, clean. Oh, I wasn’t talking about the coaching staff, I was talking about the front office. I think that in terms of the coaching staff, we namely just need an OC. What we need the most is a GM who can run this team from the front office and for Davis to just hand his baby off and step away. We need to let Russell know that he is here to do a job and he better get serious and do that job and immerse himself in learning the techniques and the throws.
January 6th, 2010 at 10:07 pm
Seems like a FEW here are just liek AL:\
trying to save FACE!
Priest w/ his confidence that JR was gonna, “win the job back in his sleep”…
When are you going to get over this guy and get real, He is a SLACKER and a HACK!
If you think he can just ‘turn it on’, it would have happened by now, and you call all of us the ‘marks’, that’s rich…
January 6th, 2010 at 10:09 pm
The rebuff of Gannon was predictable.
The defense of JaMarcus is what worries me somewhat. What exactly is he doing in Vegas that excused him from the team.
This is just a wild theory, particularly because I don’t even know if Jim Fassel resides in Vegas right now, but …
Jim Fassel just won the UFL Championship with the Las Vegas franchise. He was also seen at the Raiders-Redskins game days before his UFL QB J.P. Losman was signed by the Raiders. Could Al already have Fassel lined up as the next HC of the Raiders? Could JaMarcus be meeting with Fassel right now to a) Set up an off-season workout plan, get a little mentoring and have a sit-down with his next HC or b) Give Fassel a chance to size up JaMarcus and see if he’s worth keeping around in 2010. Could the unnamed Raiders employee with JaMarcus be special teams coach and Jim Fassel’s son, John Fassel? Just some speculation, but I wouldn’t be shocked.
January 6th, 2010 at 10:09 pm
Al lof these ‘enablers’ that keep propping JR up, are the PROBLEM.
If, and it’s a BIG IF, he is going to be a real NFL QB, he doesn’t have time to waste in Vegas partying. It’s obvious he did ENOUGH of that this season…
He just doesn’t get it, period!
January 6th, 2010 at 10:12 pm
# Dude Says:
January 6th, 2010 at 10:03 pm
JB,
After all the crazy things the Raiders have done lately would you be at all surprised that they had a mole in chat room forums??
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I don’t think there’s any doubt about that. Probably 2 or 3 at least. If I were they, I certainly would in order to keep my finger on the pulse. I also wouldn’t be surprised if some of these moles promoted themselves to the organization as providing an inside ear to report back what’s being said by the commoners. In exchange for this service, they’d get some special perks like inside information, visiting rights at HQ, etc. It all makes sense to me. Now, let’s see, who on this blog fits that mold?
January 6th, 2010 at 10:13 pm
Chris,
you’re going to make a lot of people angry putting out a reasonable reason for the Vegas trip.
January 6th, 2010 at 10:14 pm
I have to admit that with the exception of the 2 turnovers, JaMarcus did look pretty decent when he took over for Frye against the Ravens. I think that what they’ll do is hang onto JaMarcus until the final cut and if they see that he’s lost weight and that he’s finally taking things seriously in his work ethic and in his learning his skill, then we will keep him. On the flip side, if he’s still the same old fat ass, he’s gonna get cut….
January 6th, 2010 at 10:16 pm
Kids got all this $ and he eats at McDonalds???
He’s never gonna make weight,
what’s he do? sweat Crisco?
January 6th, 2010 at 10:17 pm
Demon Raider,
No matter what, I can’t imagine the Raiders stick with him at his current $9.5 million salary for 2010 … that’s Ted Danson money.
January 6th, 2010 at 10:28 pm
So the Chiefs hire Weiss with Romeo soon to follow if not already there?
And some of you really don’t think we need to upgrade our coaching staff’s talent?
Can anyone deny that our coaching staff is the worst in the division as currently constructed?
January 6th, 2010 at 10:30 pm
What they are going to do is upgrade the protection first and foremost.
January 6th, 2010 at 10:32 pm
# Chris in NY Says:
January 6th, 2010 at 10:17 pm
Demon Raider,
No matter what, I can’t imagine the Raiders stick with him at his current $9.5 million salary for 2010 … that’s Ted Danson money.
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He is due 3 million no matter what and we don’t have to pay him the remaining 6.45 million until the season starts and they are split up into 16 game checks. That is why I said that we will most likely make our decision on JaMarcus during the final cuts…. I am actually starting to like the QB from Central Michigan, Dan LaFevour. I just don’t know how well he’d transition to the pro game since spending his college career in the spread offense….
January 6th, 2010 at 10:35 pm
I would love to see us draft OL and DL first. I think we namely just need a good OC and for Al Davis to get the hell outta our game plans. Am I the only one who has seen how effective our defense is when we get things going with blitzes??
January 6th, 2010 at 10:36 pm
Chris?
Tell me you were laughing as you wrote that?
JR?
Going in to set up an offseason workout plan?
Mentoring?
For HIM to be sized up?
Ok..question..would YOU want to coach a team who just had the worst starting qb IN THE LEAGUE show up as an example of ‘what to expect if you come to Oakland”?
January 6th, 2010 at 10:38 pm
Really can’t wait to see the defense under Marshall year 2. Hope he gets to stick around.
January 6th, 2010 at 10:38 pm
Demon,
Good points. Wasn’t aware of the payout schedule. In that case it does make sense to keep JaMarcu around and see if he wakes up before cutting him loose. We’re sure as hell not going to get anything in trade for him — especially with that salary.
Plus, as Jerry pointed out in an earlier blog entry, it would send a stronger message to the rest of the team to cut him right before the season if he’s slacking rather than do it now and make it a distant memory by the time the season starts.
I suppose they could renegotiate the $6.45 million portion of the deal at that time. Under almost no circumstance could I see them paying this guy $9.45 million next season unless he turns into the black Peyton Manning all of a sudden.
January 6th, 2010 at 10:40 pm
VanHeathen Says:
January 6th, 2010 at 10:07 pm
Seems like a FEW here are just liek AL:\
trying to save FACE!
Priest w/ his confidence that JR was gonna, “win the job back in his sleep”…
When are you going to get over this guy and get real, He is a SLACKER and a HACK!
If you think he can just ‘turn it on’, it would have happened by now, and you call all of us the ‘marks’, that’s rich…
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I remember that.
Priest guaranteeing that Grad couldn’t carry JR’s jock..how he GUARANTEED he would not play better than JR..where he GUARANTEED THAT JR WOULD WIN HIS JOB BACK, NOT ONLY BEFORE THE END OF THE YEAR, but soon?
guy’s a comedian..
January 6th, 2010 at 10:41 pm
Fassell ABSOLUTELY wants to coach the Raiders!
Not sure the feeling is mutual, but he’s already on record begging for the job.
January 6th, 2010 at 10:45 pm
Chris in NY,
You may be right about John Fassel going with JaMarcus to Las Vegas.
Fassel doesn’t get out much, so JaMarcus was going to use his connections and get him into the “champagne room.”
January 6th, 2010 at 10:47 pm
What “company business” was Russell doing at the Palms?
January 6th, 2010 at 10:49 pm
I wish he’d turn into the Black Peyton. He has shown potential, small one-play flashes. lol. Jim Fassel wouldn’t be a bad OC, IMO. Better then Cable anyways. JHIll, the defense would be a lot better if Al would stay out of the game plan and let Marshall coach. If DT Gerald McCoy is there with the 8th pick, there is no reason why we shouldn’t draft him. There will be good RTs and RGs available in the 2nd and 3rd rounds. Maybe have our first 4 pick be DT, RT, RG, and LB in no particular order. Altho I would love to trade Fargas and draft RB Ryan Mathews…
January 6th, 2010 at 10:50 pm
The doom and gloom is pretty impressive in it’s totality here. Over the last few days I’ve read all of the following (some of which I agree with, other parts, not so much):
- We have the worst owner in football
- We have the worst GM (the owner) in football
- We have the worst HC in football
- We had horrible play calling
- We have the worst coaching staff in football
- We had the worst QB in football for 9 plus games
- Our O line is horrible
- We have one of the weakest receiving corp in football due to lack of experience and/or hands
- Our D line needs massive improvement
- Our LB corp is over-matched
- We had no depth in the secondary
- We had no real FB
So aside from having hot cheerleaders and two kickers that played well, what exactly did work this season?
Not that I’m satisfied with the results, but this team did win 5 games. This team had 7 other teams — over 20% of the league, finish lower (based on draft order) than the Raiders did.
If you look at the list above and buy into most of it, would you have said that a team with those “credentials” would do anything but go 0-16? If so, I’d say that you were looking through Silver and Black colored glasses. You certainly wouldn’t have predicted that a team so dysfunctional would beat several division leading teams.
So maybe, just maybe, not everything on this team is as horked as it’s made out to be here. Maybe there are a lot of things going right that are just being buried due to a few glaring holes. This is a game of cause and effect. One thing goes bad and everything else starts looking suspect. Too many offensive turnovers and 3 and outs and the D gets tired and makes mental mistakes. No faith in the QBs ability to get the ball on target, and WRs start altering their routes. No threat of a passing game, the opposing D stacks 9 in the box stuffing the run before it even starts. And a team unable to execute on plays because they can’t pass accurately makes things like the preparation and play calling suspect.
So you fix the QB position first. And they finally were able to do that. Things got notably better, even including winning some games. Without the gaping hole in the passing game, the O line play became more apparent. It wasn’t totally horked but it showed that a couple players on the line could be upgraded. And I assert that with that next change alone (and no regression back to a forced JR starting) this would suddenly become an above average offense. As a result, the defensive play would improve with more rest and more faith in the offense to do its part. And then the play calling wouldn’t be questioned as often and the coaching staff not as scrutinized.
Of course we’d still have the big man upstairs (in the luxury booth) still making bizarre calls with the first picks, but that’s not quite as fixable.
January 6th, 2010 at 10:55 pm
Kirk Says:
January 6th, 2010 at 10:47 pm
What “company business” was Russell doing at the Palms?
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Gotta ask Herrera.
January 6th, 2010 at 10:57 pm
priesttj Says:
January 6th, 2010 at 9:49 pm
Players come back and help this organization all the time, they just don’t make it public. They reach out and if they are needed the organization brings them in. The media is never the wiser.
RICHOCHET: LMAO…riiiiight…NO ONE KNOWS ABOUT THEM..and neither do you..so quit making up crap.
Prove me wrong? YOU WON’T, BECAUSE YOU CAN’T.
well, mouth?
come on..prove you aren’t a lying crock.
WHAT POSSIBLE ACTION CAN ANY FORMER PLAYER EVER DO TO HELP OUT THE TEAM THAT WOULDN’T BE NOTICED?
Nothing. Any tutoring would immediately be known..I mean, WHY WOULDN’T IT BE? Promotions? obviously be known..planning? lol..planning WHAT?
In other words..YOU LIE.
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When Gannon and Tim Brown do it they want everyone to know it. That’s why it’s viewed as insincere. Just shutup come to him and offer your services and if he needs you he’ll let you know.
RICHOCHET: you dumbass hick…these guys are multi-millionaires..you think all that do is sit around hoping for a session with his highness? they care about the Raiders, not that sorryass old geezer..they KNOW HE’S BRINGING THE TEAM DOWN..as does everyone.
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A player came in and starting working hard and wants to help he is well recieved. This player was rejected for obvious reasons he wants to showcase himself.
RICHOCHET; Damn..you’re slow. Al needs them..THEY DON’T NEED AL. Al needs help..THEY DON’T NEED HELP. They can make a difference in the total chaos of the Raiders..or at least they care enough to offer..Al? Al is his own worst enemy.
You’re still mad that the radio hosts laughed at you..aren’t you?
I understand. I would be upset too. Man, they just torched you, lol.
January 6th, 2010 at 10:59 pm
Kirk Says:
January 6th, 2010 at 10:47 pm
What “company business” was Russell doing at the Palms?
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Seems JR had 5 rooms booked, all under his name.
Whatever the “company business” was..I guess the company insisted he bring his entourage?
Maybe they’re carrying workout equipment??
Yeah..that’s it.
January 6th, 2010 at 11:01 pm
Al wants Fassel to wine and dine him so they will be good buds when he gets to Oakland. Good job #194. Probably true to a T.
January 6th, 2010 at 11:02 pm
Kirk Says:
January 6th, 2010 at 10:47 pm
What “company business” was Russell doing at the Palms?
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JaMarcus is breaking into the adult movie biz. He was doing a Raider promo flick entitled ” Silver and Black.”
Starring Silver Summers, and introducing JaMarcus Russell…
January 6th, 2010 at 11:02 pm
Demon,
This defense was doing things it hasn’t done in quite some time. I think Marshall was pretty much free to do it his way. Especially the more he got results.
January 6th, 2010 at 11:04 pm
Jr booked 5 rooms? Party time, big time.
January 6th, 2010 at 11:06 pm
Seems JR had 5 rooms booked, all under his name.
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Inside source?
Hadn’t heard that part anywhere else.
January 6th, 2010 at 11:08 pm
jhill Says:
January 6th, 2010 at 11:02 pm
Demon,
This defense was doing things it hasn’t done in quite some time. I think Marshall was pretty much free to do it his way. Especially the more he got results.
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That seems to be the case with Al. As long as you keep getting resluts, you keep getting more freedom.
January 6th, 2010 at 11:08 pm
So you fix the QB position first. And they finally were able to do that.
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And then they kept getting knocked out of the game.
Fix the Oline!
January 6th, 2010 at 11:09 pm
Al Davis and Herrera DIE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
January 6th, 2010 at 11:09 pm
http://www.insidebayarea.com/raiders/ci_14128243
January 6th, 2010 at 11:10 pm
It’s a real shame that the organization refuses to take Gannon’s offer. Very sad
January 6th, 2010 at 11:12 pm
What does Herrera do? Is he in line to succeed Al?
January 6th, 2010 at 11:13 pm
jhill Says:
January 6th, 2010 at 11:08 pm
So you fix the QB position first. And they finally were able to do that.
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And then they kept getting knocked out of the game.
Fix the Oline!
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Easy to say.
The problem might be that Cable is “supposed” to be an O-line guru. He’s supposed to be able to work wonders with whatever Al gives him.
Last year at the draft, he said they had enough talent there, and they didn’t need to draft an O-lineman.
Madden said he would fight with Al to get O-line picks. Cable doesn’t have enough clout to argue for O-linemen.
January 6th, 2010 at 11:13 pm
# 194,
That’s good work. Makes sense, otherwise why would Raiders honchos insist Russell had “permission” to miss that last meeting to be in Vegas? They would not be making excuses for a guy who blew off a team meeting to go gamble and party in Vegas unless………..they just don’t want to look bad when Russell spits in their face and says “screw you, i’m going to Vegas”.
I tend to think your speculation makes sense.
Well, welcome aboard Coach Fassel…You think?
January 6th, 2010 at 11:15 pm
Is there any validity in the conspiracy theory that Davis is deliberating reducing the value of the Raiders in order to minimize the inheritance tax that would fall on his heir?
Consider this…
Under current law, the IRS has a prearranged method for determining if an inheritance tax is due on property or monies received. You must remember that the settling of an estate is a complicated matter. An attorney or tax accountant ought to be referred to in inheritance situations where matters of the law are involved, such as the probate process, also known as contesting of the will.
“The first step used to determine any inheritance tax that might be due is to calculate the fair market value of the entire estate,” says Money-Zine.com. “This would include cash, bank accounts, stocks and bonds, real state, insurance, and similar items of value. The total fair market value of all these items is termed the Gross Estate. The next step would be to calculate any adjustments to the gross estate. Typical adjustments include paying-off the remaining balance on a mortgage or the fees associated with settling the estate. This last item might include items such as estate administration fees or payments made to an attorney. Finally, there is also a Marital Deduction that can be taken for property that is left to a surviving spouse.”
After all the deductions have been taken from the gross estate, the balance is the net value of the property – otherwise known as the inheritance tax basis. To determine whether or not any inheritance tax is due, subtract the net value of the property from the inheritance tax credits.
January 6th, 2010 at 11:15 pm
Al might be scared to fire Cable. I bet when he does it he’ll have bodyguards in the room with him.
January 6th, 2010 at 11:18 pm
What do you guys think of moving Langston Walker to RG? Then we’d just really need a RT ot a LT and move Mario to RT….
January 6th, 2010 at 11:19 pm
GG,
So you are suggesting that Al Davis would deliberately bring down the organization that he built, and that has been his personal identity for 50 yrs., just so his son Mark doesn’t get with taxes when Al dies?
I don’t know about that.
January 6th, 2010 at 11:20 pm
GG,
I think that’s what RMR keeps trying to say. That Davis is trying lose intentionally. Perhaps for different reasons though.
(You lost me after the first paragraph, but I’ll take your word for it.)
January 6th, 2010 at 11:21 pm
Besides, if Al Davis truly wanted to lose, he’d just go out and hire Matt Millen…
January 6th, 2010 at 11:21 pm
Maybe Cable has already pimp-handed Al. That’s why he was able bench JR and claim he is a damn good coach. You don’t do that as a coach in Oakland unless you got some punch.
January 6th, 2010 at 11:24 pm
NorthernD Says:
January 6th, 2010 at 11:21 pm
Besides, if Al Davis truly wanted to lose, he’d just go out and hire Matt Millen…
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His GM is already doing that.
January 6th, 2010 at 11:24 pm
Not bring down to utter ruin, no cos he would want the org to continue and ensure his son have a lifetime income. But by the process around inheritance tax, you can reduce the value of an org enough to either a) minimize greatly how much the tax will be, or b) even avoid inheritance tax altogether. Consider other things too like Al throwing excessive amounts of money into FAs and rookies. Over-paying excessively for rookies when he doesnt need to. Who knows what other things he’s doing to reduce his net value, including selling off percentage of ownership etc etc.
January 6th, 2010 at 11:27 pm
Should we draft/sign a OLB or a MLB to move Morrison to SAM??
January 6th, 2010 at 11:29 pm
The Raiders have the highest payroll in the NFL and were 32nd in home attendance in 2009.
January 6th, 2010 at 11:34 pm
Why the hell was a post i just wrote moderated from being posted? Now ive forgotten what i wrote. Grrr.
January 6th, 2010 at 11:37 pm
I was basically trying to say how the fan-team relationship is like a company-customer or product-consumer relationship. And how Davis has willfully shown disdain towards the meaning/importance of the fan for decades. Meant to just shut up and consume. But that’s prehistoric thinking. Fans have the power to force change by boycotting ticket sales, merchandise, etc, ownership in the end cannot ignore this and will always (bar Davis) make efforts to ensure the fans are happy with the “product” to keep consuming it. Sporting market out there no different to any industry today. Teams and leagues cannot take a fan for granted or think they wouldn’t take their money and go support another team.
January 6th, 2010 at 11:37 pm
Raiders don’t have highest payroll in NFL do they?
January 6th, 2010 at 11:38 pm
If Mardy Gilyard was still on the board when we are up for the second time in the 3rd round, should e get him?
January 6th, 2010 at 11:39 pm
Or like how he said, “i dont care about the fans, it’s my team, i’ll do what i want” in regards to relocating them to LA originally. It’s there in him. Plus it’s in Davis’ nature to always try to “beat the system”, avoid paying people/companies money, win court battles, etc. Wouldn’t put it past him.
January 6th, 2010 at 11:39 pm
Would for the Bama teammates to be our first 2 picks… Referring to McClain and Mount Cody….
January 6th, 2010 at 11:41 pm
Chris in NY Says:
January 6th, 2010 at 10:09 pm
The rebuff of Gannon was predictable.
The defense of JaMarcus is what worries me somewhat. What exactly is he doing in Vegas that excused him from the team.
This is just a wild theory, particularly because I don’t even know if Jim Fassel resides in Vegas right now, but …
Jim Fassel just won the UFL Championship with the Las Vegas franchise. He was also seen at the Raiders-Redskins game days before his UFL QB J.P. Losman was signed by the Raiders. Could Al already have Fassel lined up as the next HC of the Raiders? Could JaMarcus be meeting with Fassel right now to a) Set up an off-season workout plan, get a little mentoring and have a sit-down with his next HC or b) Give Fassel a chance to size up JaMarcus and see if he’s worth keeping around in 2010. Could the unnamed Raiders employee with JaMarcus be special teams coach and Jim Fassel’s son, John Fassel? Just some speculation, but I wouldn’t be shocked.
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This would make sense if it was coupled with what someone said earlier about they heard a Cable interview and Cable said JaMarcus told him he had to miss meeting to tend to personal matter in Bama. Could be that Cable is out the loop on this and feeling crap faced right now. It will surface by Monday.
January 6th, 2010 at 11:41 pm
If you watch tape on Morrison, you will see that he doesn’t deserve to even be on the team anymore. He’s horrible. Watch him. He ALWAYS takes the wrong gaps and he and Howard are the main reasons Raiders are so horrendous against the run.
January 6th, 2010 at 11:43 pm
They are cover LBers, Djohnnyg. If they had a better interior DL and a better MIKE LB, they would be studs…
January 6th, 2010 at 11:45 pm
Just saw a mock that had Oakland drafting Tebow in the 3rd……
January 6th, 2010 at 11:47 pm
Demon,
No we shouldn’t take Gilyard because he is good. He is better than DHB yet DHB would start because of being #7. Gilyard would be lucky to get Javon type playing time but would be arguably the 2nd best WR after Murphy.
McClain and Cody wouldn’t be our top 2 picks because we don’t have two 1st rounders.
January 6th, 2010 at 11:49 pm
I have seen some projections of Cody slipping into the 2nd…..
January 6th, 2010 at 11:51 pm
I have a better chance of slipping inside Kim Kardashian than Cody does slipping into the 2nd.
January 6th, 2010 at 11:53 pm
DT Brian Price has a good chance of being there when Oakland picks in the 2nd. Altho I would like for them to get either RG Johnson or Iaputi cuz we need to build our OL before we can have a good QB…. OT Sam Young and Selvish Capers are likely to be available in the 3rd….
January 6th, 2010 at 11:54 pm
Demon Raider Says:
January 6th, 2010 at 11:49 pm
I have seen some projections of Cody slipping into the 2nd…..
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Have a link?
I searched all over Wal-Mart’s website and couldn’t find their Mock.
January 6th, 2010 at 11:55 pm
Langston Walker might be a decent RG. if that’s the case then we just really need to draft/sign a RT and maybe a C. I just want Cornell Green to disappear already!
January 6th, 2010 at 11:55 pm
GG,
You should stick around until MaddenRaider makes an appearance. He usually shows up later in the night. You could probably come up with some interesting theories together.
January 6th, 2010 at 11:57 pm
504 Raider Says:
January 6th, 2010 at 11:51 pm
I have a better chance of slipping inside Kim Kardashian than Cody does slipping into the 2nd.
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If he shows up at the combine looking like a waterbed matress on legs, he’ll drop.
January 7th, 2010 at 12:01 am
NorthernD Says:
January 6th, 2010 at 11:57 pm
504 Raider Says:
January 6th, 2010 at 11:51 pm
I have a better chance of slipping inside Kim Kardashian than Cody does slipping into the 2nd.
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If he shows up at the combine looking like a waterbed matress on legs, he’ll drop.
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He probably would. From 8 to 18.
January 7th, 2010 at 12:11 am
MaddenRaider and I share a love for conspiracy theories.
Who doesnt?!
January 7th, 2010 at 12:43 am
Hmmm,
Wasn’t that Al Davis behind the fence on that grassy knoll in ‘63?
I think the Raiders were playing in Houston that week…
January 7th, 2010 at 12:57 am
What’s up, GG. Sorry I blew a gasket on your site Sunday. I forgot what it’s like to have a website moderator play god with me so I fought fire with fire. I think I’m sticking to the blogs here on out. Moderators here are only cutting what will get them sued. They don’t play daddy knows best the way a lot of website mods do. Anyway, you know I respect you. Hope to see you around here.
January 7th, 2010 at 1:02 am
Fassell = another puppet. These coaches that actually lobby to coach here? Think Joe Bugel. I hope Al hires a young guy who will stab him directly in the back. Hopefully we get a 9 win season out of it.
January 7th, 2010 at 1:05 am
# raidereric Says:
January 6th, 2010 at 11:09 pm
Al Davis and Herrera D**!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Don’t do it. You’ll get banned for a week. Take my word for it.
January 7th, 2010 at 1:08 am
# djohnnyg Says:
January 6th, 2010 at 11:19 pm
GG,
So you are suggesting that Al Davis would deliberately bring down the organization that he built, and that has been his personal identity for 50 yrs., just so his son Mark doesn’t get with taxes when Al dies?
I don’t know about that.
…………
Insinuating that Al Davis is really trying to succeed, with these results, is far more of an insult. I don’t know why Davis’s worshipers don’t just roll with the sabotage theories.
January 7th, 2010 at 1:29 am
“Company Business” in Las Vegas. Wow – that’s how they treat complete slackers and failures – with an award trip to vegas.
Boy – I wonder why we suck. Let’s reward the most worthless, unworking, lazy, slacking, underachieving player we have with a trip to Vegas with Raiders Executives. That’ll show him that he needs to shape up.
January 7th, 2010 at 1:33 am
504 Raider Says:
January 6th, 2010 at 11:41 pm
Chris in NY Says:
January 6th, 2010 at 10:09 pm
The rebuff of Gannon was predictable.
The defense of JaMarcus is what worries me somewhat. What exactly is he doing in Vegas that excused him from the team.
This is just a wild theory, particularly because I don’t even know if Jim Fassel resides in Vegas right now, but …
Jim Fassel just won the UFL Championship with the Las Vegas franchise. He was also seen at the Raiders-Redskins game days before his UFL QB J.P. Losman was signed by the Raiders. Could Al already have Fassel lined up as the next HC of the Raiders? Could JaMarcus be meeting with Fassel right now to a) Set up an off-season workout plan, get a little mentoring and have a sit-down with his next HC or b) Give Fassel a chance to size up JaMarcus and see if he’s worth keeping around in 2010. Could the unnamed Raiders employee with JaMarcus be special teams coach and Jim Fassel’s son, John Fassel? Just some speculation, but I wouldn’t be shocked.
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Hmmm….not that shocking actually….does make sense.
Probably Al is down there to interview him and see if he thinks he can do something with his Prized pick. Afterall better to be Consistent then Right….oh crap, it’s supposed to be the other way around.
January 7th, 2010 at 1:34 am
# DKnight007 Says:
January 6th, 2010 at 8:51 pm
# Shawnraiders81 Says:
January 6th, 2010 at 8:07 pm
Hey Slime ball Hererra
The last time the Oakland Raiders could win more than two games in a row was with Rich Gannon!!!!!!!!!
New Flash it’s YOU & Al Davis that needs the help, EVERYONE knows it. Al should do everyone a favor and fire you next, then cut himself.
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Exactly!
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AGREED TOTALY!
January 7th, 2010 at 1:51 am
Picture of Jim Fassel:
http://imgs.sfgate.com/c/pictures/2009/01/05/sp-raiders06_ph1_421803196.jpg
January 7th, 2010 at 2:06 am
Isn’t this so BACKWARDS!!! Raiders OK with Russell and still mad at Gannon.
Gannon – the hardest working, productive and successful QB we’ve had in YEARS. Raiders upset with him and trying to villify him.
Russell the LEAST productive, laziest QB we’ve ahd in YEARS and they’re OK with him and happy with him and in fact arrange him to go to Vegas.
January 7th, 2010 at 2:11 am
“It’s Rich that needs the help,” Herrera said. “When he goes on a radio show offering Mr. Davis help, Tom Cable help, the Raiders help, maybe it’s Rich that needs the help.”
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No Herrera. You need the help. You need to step aside as the team’s “PR”.
January 7th, 2010 at 2:52 am
Real MaddenRaider,
GG’s theory that Al is trying to lose for the purposes of reducing the inheritance tax is pretty good. It accounts for the high salary numbers.
Occam’s razor.
What’s your reasoning for Al wanting to tank.
(I don’t beleive it myself, but never say never)
January 7th, 2010 at 3:09 am
ACTUALLY, the person who needs help mr. herrera is the man who signs your checks AND maybe the retard in the mirror.
look at the type of people al davis surrounds himself with. it’s no wonder this team is a minor league franchise who will NEVER be competitive as long as davis strangles it. does anyone else see a problem with this?? instead of being a professional, taking the high road, herrera decides it’s a better idea to act like a 4-year old and insult rich gannon. a simple “no thank you” would have sufficed and maybe even made him look like a respectable adult/human being instead of the piece of excrement he is. one more thing, don’t call me a “bad” fan because i’m siding with gannon on this issue. it’s not unloyal to question things, nor is it unloyal to NOT buy tickets. what i find unloyal is AL DAVIS. unloyal to the very people who have been paying his bills for 50 years. what’s worse, me not buying season tickets OR the owner refusing to change and accept help while his franchise descends to rock bottom?? al davis is a joke and amyone who defends him is equally ridiculous.
January 7th, 2010 at 3:17 am
# Silver-n-Smac Says:
January 6th, 2010 at 8:15 pm
John Hererra is no different than Carmen Policy.
Policy was nothing but a little slime ball who did nothing but have his head deep into Eddie D’s ass.
He wore the slick suits and came off as a snuggly little bear.
All he was was an ass-kissing tool who knew nothing about football.
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difference is, policy was educated, Herrera just as smart as a trucker at the gaz-station
January 7th, 2010 at 3:35 am
# Silver-n-Smac Says:
January 6th, 2010 at 8:18 pm
Ya know. . . .
I’m willing to bet that half you fools who refer to JaMarcus as “JaWalrus” or “JaFatass” are a bunch of over-weight fiucks yourselves.
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offcause most here on this blog are fat, they are americans, its the one thing they are good at… but thats not the point. JaFatty is an athlete with obligations to his employer, his team and his team-mates, him showing up fat and uninterested is an insult to all. All, being aforementioned plus the fatty and thin fans…
January 7th, 2010 at 3:43 am
raiderzmaverick Says:
January 7th, 2010 at 1:29 am
“Company Business” in Las Vegas. Wow – that’s how they treat complete slackers and failures – with an award trip to vegas.
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I dont believe Herrera for a second, never did… so that said, I think it was a surprise to the organization that Fatty was in Las Vegas, and he had to lie so it didnt make us look idiotic… problem is no matter what the outcome is not great…
if its true, I hope it has something to do with his health, not meaning i wish him bad things, but thtat there are something wrong and that there are an expert in LV that can handle that… or a mental coach or a dietist or something….
but if its R&R, he should be ball-buy next season… just to make a point…
January 7th, 2010 at 5:19 am
Morning NATION!!!!
January 7th, 2010 at 5:32 am
Yeah Raiders don’t need Gannon I mean look at all the great Qb we have had since him forget 7 seasons in a row of 11 losses were going for an even 8. Good lord why don’t Silver and Smac and Priest start a Jamarcus fan club nothing but excuses , did you two guys make same excuses for Ryan Leaf who Russell has actually been worse then. So you 2 kool-aid drinkers continue with the pro-Al rants and the rest of us keep laughing. My fave is if Manning came here he would struggle just like Russell. Yeah I remember when the 3-13 Colts drafted him he held out and looked awful, then 2 season he came to camp 20lbs overweight oh wait that was Jawalrus.
January 7th, 2010 at 5:37 am
Let’s blame everybody for Russell faults cause he is only 24 so let him be a moron. The rest of the Nfl laughs at us we go 5-11 but lets keep the coach and lets keep the Qb cause we all know Al won’t admit he is wrong. Nothing better than when he brought back Shell ah the good ol 2-14 team or the one that doomed us to Russell. Adrian Peterson and Patrick Willis went in that draft how are they doing? Please no more calling Fargas,Mcfad,Bush a 3-headed monster its laughable Bush is only good one where is the other 2 monsters?
January 7th, 2010 at 5:38 am
A good morning to the AM crew.
January 7th, 2010 at 5:39 am
Good Morning Nation, The Only Nation.
So even when Jmca has a legitiment excuse we still have to bash him. So in the eyes of many he cant do anything right anymore.
Now i really hope he stays and battles for the starting job, and if he wins out you all will still be mad. But once he starts winning games lots of you will be the first to say all he needed was time to mature.
I really think that time has come, watching him the last game he looked so much more poised and he was listening to Gradkowski on the sideline.
He want to be great it’s just so hard when any little mistake brings out the boo birds. What a waisted emotion booing.
I’m done defending him as i think it falls on def ears anyways, but i do wish him the best as he is only a kid with a lot of growing up to do.
January 7th, 2010 at 5:40 am
Jerry Mac’s article = everything that’s wrong with the Raiders right now.
January 7th, 2010 at 5:45 am
NoMoreFargas,
This team was bad way before Jmac so the blame has to be spread out from top to bottom. Even when this team was winning we couldnt sell out so whats the difference with fans saying they wont show if Jmac stays.
Manning would be crushed and killed behind this O-Line, Statues for QB’s wouldnt make it in Oaklnd. We need mobility or a better O-Line. 3 headed monster lol we will never know if we really had 1 since Cable refused to run the rock. The 3 headed monster we do have are C-Green, Satele, and Morris on the O-Line. They flat out suck “oh but there hard workers”.
January 7th, 2010 at 5:46 am
R8dr4lfe21…
Really pi$$ed off when I read that Russell had gone straight to Vegas.Hey !! It’s got nothing to do with me how he spends his money,but it came over like it was an inconvenience,he couldn’t wait one day more ?
I don’t think he gets it.I don’t think he gets how bad he played.
January 7th, 2010 at 5:48 am
Good Morning Nation!!!
That is what I say…
Let him compete for the job this year. Don’t just give it to him. Garcia asked for his release because it was made clear to him that he’s not going to push Russell for the job and I think that was a mistake. Russell went in there (after SD on Monday) knowing that he is the guy and therefore had no desire to work harder!
Let him compete for the job…if he doesn’t work out, then do what you want with him.
I agree R8dr4lfe…he actually did not look bad on Sunday. Who knows…
January 7th, 2010 at 5:51 am
Don’t know what the answer is but when you’re paying someone nearly 10m they shouldn’t be competing.They should be way ahead of the next guy.
January 7th, 2010 at 5:53 am
neilb,
Truthfully you hear Vegas and all of a sudden bad thoughts run through your mind right? But what if it was actually for some training and if he is with a staff member not to mention Fassel is in Vegas. So maybe he is starting the mentoring program early would you give him credit for that if it were true?.
Also he is not the only Raider there maybe the others are the QB’s i mean we dont know we just react.
January 7th, 2010 at 5:55 am
I agree the team stunk long before Russell , but that’s why you take a Qb no 1 overall you weren’t good the year before I get it. Get a real MLB and for all the hype on Howard and Morrison’s coverage skills they sure seem to let a lot of slow TE get right behind them, plus Russell didn’t draft Mcfad and DHB.
January 7th, 2010 at 5:56 am
neilb Says:
January 7th, 2010 at 5:51 am
Don’t know what the answer is but when you’re paying someone nearly 10m they shouldn’t be competing.They should be way ahead of the next guy.
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True but when you buy a lottery ticket it’s with hope right? but when you dont win you dont give up do you? the draft is much like that, your hoping that the pics you make pan out but you have to give it time people have a different learning curve. Jmac is called dumb, i will give you lazy but he is not dumb he scored higher then so many other QB’s some witch are in the Hall Of Fame on his wonderlic test.
January 7th, 2010 at 5:58 am
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January 7th, 2010 at 6:00 am
R8dr4lfe…
If Russell was there to train then why not say it ? What harm would there be in just making a brief statement saying that ?
January 7th, 2010 at 6:01 am
NoMoreFargas Says:
January 7th, 2010 at 5:55 am
I agree the team stunk long before Russell , but that’s why you take a Qb no 1 overall you weren’t good the year before I get it. Get a real MLB and for all the hype on Howard and Morrison’s coverage skills they sure seem to let a lot of slow TE get right behind them, plus Russell didn’t draft Mcfad and DHB.
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My point exactly lets blame the whole team, we cant let them off easy. They want the blame on Russell so they can fade away and not get any blame. Calling out the whole team puts all of them on blast not just Jmac.
If Jmac comes in and puts up monster numbers but the rest of the team suck what good is that. Cable calling out his QB the way he did was only to get the attention off of himself for losing games by blow outs not to mention his off the field issues. He whent for the easy target cause how many would question Jmacs work ethic we know he didnt work hard. Like i said thats his reason not working hard enough, what about the rest of the hard workers on the team that still sucked?
January 7th, 2010 at 6:02 am
Who cares? We only have 2 more years to live. The world ends Dec 21 2012!
lol
January 7th, 2010 at 6:03 am
What time ?
January 7th, 2010 at 6:04 am
neilb Says:
January 7th, 2010 at 6:00 am
R8dr4lfe…
If Russell was there to train then why not say it ? What harm would there be in just making a brief statement saying that ?
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Why? maybe he doesnt want to make it a big deal maybe he wants to just let his actions speak for him. Maybe…
Not to say thats whats going on but with his speach saying he has lots to work on and with speculation of Fassel just maybe it makes more sense.
January 7th, 2010 at 6:05 am
Chicken little says the sky is falling lol.
January 7th, 2010 at 6:05 am
I guess after Monday we all will find out if we need a new coaching staff or not. Al Davis said that Cable and “this other person” was given the opportunity to get a staff together and may the best man win. Well, we all know that was Cable. So…if he goes, does his whole staff go? Except for Hansen?
January 7th, 2010 at 6:06 am
LOL…so if we all wake up on December 22, 2012…then what?
January 7th, 2010 at 6:06 am
Does it matter? LMAO
January 7th, 2010 at 6:08 am
Don’t ask me. It’s not my prediction.
January 7th, 2010 at 6:08 am
GOOD MORNING SPORT’S FANS,CONVERT RUSSELL TO LONG-SNAPPER..
January 7th, 2010 at 6:09 am
…Somewhere deep within the walls of the Raider headquarters sits Tom Cable, John Hererra, Art Shell and Al Davis…
Davis: So Tom, did you pass my message to Jamahcus at todays final team meetin?
Cable: Uh, no sir. Jamarcus send me a text- here it is **Hey TC, can’t come today bro cuz I gots a sore belly. Holla atcha L8r.**
Davis hands the phone to Hererra “RRAAAGHH”
Herrera reaches behind Als desk and grabs the bloodied Lousville slugger, tosses up the phone and swings at it, corkscrewing himself around and also connecting with Davis’ desk falling onto the floor.
Debris sprays all over Cable and Shell.
Shell looking oblivious to what has just occurred.
Davis: Can we freeze his accounts.
Hererra: No sir.
Davis: John I want you to go– *phone ringing*
Davis motions toward John: Pick it up!
-After 20 seconds Hererra hangs up and turns to Al: Jamarcus is in Vegas and he’s not alone… he’s with Marcus, Marcus Allen!
Davis: Son of a… Tom, pour us some scotch and light me a cigar.
Davis: John go to his house, here’s the alarm code, and your going to plant the package we had for Gannon’s car and place it in his fridge. Rig it so it blows as soon as the frige opens again.
32 Million, cawwwksucka!!
January 7th, 2010 at 6:09 am
Remember years ago when the Koreans thought that the world was going to end (I think that was back in the early 90’s or maybe even 89) and they gave up all their possessions (well, not all of them did)? The next day when those dummies that did woke up tried to get their things back…that was funny!!!
January 7th, 2010 at 6:10 am
Gannon coming on Sirius in under an hour, I’ll post if he has anything to say about the circus.
January 7th, 2010 at 6:10 am
Maybe…..
January 7th, 2010 at 6:10 am
I’m thinking Cable will stay but Fassel will be a consultant/ asst:coach. Cable will then have more time to focus on his bread and butter O-Line while Fassel gets time with Hackett on the QB’s. Gradkowski, Lossman, and Russell. Frye will be let go.
January 7th, 2010 at 6:11 am
Raider O Says:
January 7th, 2010 at 6:08 am
Don’t ask me. It’s not my prediction.
I know…haha! It was the Mayans!
January 7th, 2010 at 6:13 am
The Raiders have also signed practice squad player to a future’s contract, tying him to the Raiders into next season.
Wide receiver Paul Hubbard, center Tim Mattran, quarterback Jeff Otis and guard Brandon Robb were not retained.
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who was signed to the practice squad???
January 7th, 2010 at 6:14 am
AS LONG AS THE AM CREW GET A FEW POST’S IN B4 WHATEVER HAPPEN’S …
January 7th, 2010 at 6:14 am
So the Mayans saw the end of the world but not what killed all of them ?
January 7th, 2010 at 6:15 am
The Mayan Calendar ends on 12-21-2012, so some think it’s the end of the world. Scientists agree that what will happen in the solar sys only happens every 26000 years!
January 7th, 2010 at 6:15 am
is Jerry referring to WR Bodiford?
… and it’s Brandon Rodd, not “Robb”
January 7th, 2010 at 6:16 am
The Mayans didnt forsee anything past 2012 so thats why the calender stops there. Sylvia Brown world known for her predictions opn everything from solving crimes to knowing about the after life. She says she can see as far as the year 2099 and that every state will live in it’s own bubble cause of nuclear war but the world will not end before that. She also says that in the year 2050 there will be a long period of peace in the world with no war.
January 7th, 2010 at 6:17 am
free SOUTHWICK !!!
January 7th, 2010 at 6:17 am
Got to go pick my sister up from work……
back later.
January 7th, 2010 at 6:18 am
Sam Williams is the team’s nominee for the Walter Payton Man of the Year award, given for service to the community.
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awesome! Congrats Mr. Williams
a beast on ST and all-around great guy for depth & the locker room
January 7th, 2010 at 6:19 am
Neilb,
You don’t what you are talking about. The Mayans were Aliens that went back to space! lol
January 7th, 2010 at 6:21 am
neilb Says:
January 7th, 2010 at 6:14 am
So the Mayans saw the end of the world but not what killed all of them ?
Haha! I guess not! Did they also foresee when the Raiders are coming back to greatness?
January 7th, 2010 at 6:22 am
O,
I thought Mayans were people born in May who love OJ Mayo?
January 7th, 2010 at 6:22 am
We have had continental drifts, dinasours, massive earthquakes, ice age, tsunamis, hale bop comet, haleys comet, president bush for 8 years, and the world is still turning we’ll be fine.
January 7th, 2010 at 6:23 am
WHERE IS MARC WILSON THESE DAY’S ?
January 7th, 2010 at 6:24 am
WHERE IS MARC WILSON THESE DAY’S ?
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read the above article Dirt Lot. he is or was in Vegas!
January 7th, 2010 at 6:24 am
I know RR, and it’s OK. Damn our edjemucation system.
January 7th, 2010 at 6:24 am
First I believe that John Herrera is a class A tool. That being established, I agree with part of his sentiment. What exactly is it Rich Gannon thinks he can do for the team? Or for Russell even? I liked Rich when he played for the Raiders, and even have a Gannon jersey.But Herrera makes a point, Gannon has claimed that Raider QB coach Paul Hackett is the best position coach he ever had.Gannon isn’t a coach.So what exactly can he do better than Hackett in that respect? He wouldn’t be able to instill his work ethic in Russell. I appreciate Gannon’s desire to help, I just don’t see what he could do.
January 7th, 2010 at 6:25 am
YES HWNDR, THE RAIDER’S RETURN TO GREATNESS IS SCHEDULE’D FOR 2013…
January 7th, 2010 at 6:25 am
sorry. no offense to Marc Wilson
a comparison to JaMarcus is like a comparison to Fat B@stard from the Austin Powers movies …
January 7th, 2010 at 6:26 am
Did anyone see the Rams v.s. 49ers on sunday? The Rams QB was mentored and trained by Ryan Leaf and says he was very knowledgable and a great QB coach.
January 7th, 2010 at 6:26 am
LMAO @ 317!!!!
January 7th, 2010 at 6:27 am
THE RAIDER’S RETURN TO GREATNESS IS SCHEDULE’D FOR 2013…
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Al Davis isn’t predicted to live past 2013?
January 7th, 2010 at 6:28 am
The Rams QB was mentored and trained by Ryan Leaf and says he was very knowledgable and a great QB coach.
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Keith Null?
January 7th, 2010 at 6:28 am
mistic1 Says:
January 6th, 2010 at 6:44 pm
Russell is a good kid struggling to adjust to big city life in the bay area, and the bright lights and intense scrutiny of being a number one draft pick. Im sure that he can get in touch with people in mobile that will set him straight, I hope he is still willing to listen. Look at this clip, then add this information to the ability he was born with, then review your opinion of him.
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2m50t_outside-the-lines-jamarcus-russell_sport
Small town kid caught up in the hype.
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Mistic1….
I took your advice and watched this clip.Bingo,you hit it on the head!
I equate this as when Sea-Bass ventured forth out of Poland and came here to Florida St….Sea-Bass did what any kid would do who grew up in the shadow of the Iron Curtain….He went Nuckin-Futs!
7 years later enter Jmac.What a beautiful family and a wonderful safety-net of a community he has!
Yep,humble kid,GOOD HEARTED KID….He is just like Sea-Bass in a way,altho we cant compare Alabama to Poland.But still Jmac went Nuckin-Futs just like Sea-Bass at St.
I was one of his biggest supporters but am very critical now.I hope he restructures and can stay and learn.Vs. Ravens he looked better and crisper than ever,imo.
As ANY parent will say….you just cant give up on a GOOD KID,well thats the parent in me speaking also….
So Jmac relax,study hard and it will all pay-off 4 you,imo
You see a wonderful family like his and ya just want him to succeed because of THEM
But Jamarcus MUST come into camp knowing this is prolly his last chance.Go-ahead and have some fun in Vegas,but then its gotta be all brass–knuckles after your lil vaction….Thankx again Mistic1
January 7th, 2010 at 6:32 am
I was watching NFLN the other day, and they had the top 10 LBs. The Raiders were # 8 ( I think). They talked about how 53 was a speed guy, 55 was a force in the middle, and 83 was tall and good at rushing the passer. I’m thinking we have a 53 who is very fast, and we 91 who is good at rushing the passer, so maybe all we are missing is that force in the middle.
January 7th, 2010 at 6:32 am
wheres Vegas?
what are the odds JaMarcus Russell starts 10+ games next season???
for the Raiders probably a 50 percent chance.
for any other team ZERO chance…
January 7th, 2010 at 6:32 am
Lovin that post makes so much sense thanks 4EVA for reposting it.
I also have 2 kids and would never give up on them and we all know Al Davis treats his players like they were his kids. Believe me the old man is hurtin right now he never thought he would see the day his beloved Raidernation turned on him. To him it was us against the world and now he stands alone. He will get this fixed and so will Jmac.
January 7th, 2010 at 6:32 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
January 7th, 2010 at 6:27 am
THE RAIDER’S RETURN TO GREATNESS IS SCHEDULE’D FOR 2013…
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Al Davis isn’t predicted to live past 2013?
Ummm…”I bet that there’ll be roaches running around on judgement day”…
And that roach is…
January 7th, 2010 at 6:35 am
We all have opinions some positive some negative but there opinions. I tend to stay positive cause smiling is better for the heart then frowning. Besides why be angry on things out of our control.
January 7th, 2010 at 6:37 am
Exactly R8dr4lfe…Exactly!!!
January 7th, 2010 at 6:38 am
You are very welcome R8dr4lfe21 =)
January 7th, 2010 at 6:40 am
Rockstar…..SUP?
I dont expect Jmac to start for us in 2010 0r 2011 but maybe 2012
January 7th, 2010 at 6:40 am
It all depends on the GREAT Gradkowski
January 7th, 2010 at 6:41 am
and Jmacs dedication of course
January 7th, 2010 at 6:42 am
If Russell is hear doing “football business” I would be suprised.
Fassell doesn’t live here, he lives in Scottsdale. The LV Loco’s had their “training camp” in AZ, due to Fassell living their. Not to say they couldn’t meet here, but running with Russell coming to Vegas to meet a guy who doesn’t live here or have a contract with the team is quite the stretch.
Russell didn’t make the scene and heard in the club scene last night, but Brandon Marshall was spotted at Blush nightclub.
I hate Herrera.
January 7th, 2010 at 6:43 am
Any QB that starts for us better hope we get this O-Line fixed first. A QB’s best friend is a running game and we cant run if we dont fix the O-Line.
January 7th, 2010 at 6:44 am
We need DT, MLB, and CB on Defense.
We need RT, RG, C, and FB on Offense.
I heard J Campbell will be a FA, and I think we should sign him, but we need to cut TK, Warren, Walker, Euk, and fargas to make room to sign players.
We should Move Seymour to DT (after we sign him), draft a DE, DT, MLB, CB, and that will give us a good Defense that can help our very young offense.
January 7th, 2010 at 6:44 am
vegas raider,
Thanks for the info, we are all speculating right now.
January 7th, 2010 at 6:46 am
I watched that OTL segment, good work Mistic1 for the link, and one thing really jumped out at me.
There was ZERO talk about being great in the NFL. Everything was how this young, poor kid from Mobile made it to the NFL and into riches as the #1 pick.
In Russell’s and his family and friends eyes, no matter what happens he will be a success. Who am I to tell them what defines “success”, but as I’ve said a million times, Russell, in his eyes, already made it to the top of the mountain.
January 7th, 2010 at 6:48 am
I see a lot of posts about “What can Gannon do for the Raiders?”
Excuse me?
First and for most he can show JaChubby what it takes to be a first class QB in this league. Day in and day out routine that needs to be accomplished. That nothing comes easy – Something that no coach on the Raiders staff has done on their own. Yeah I agree that Hackett is the best man for the QB coach and Gannon won’t add much there. The intangibles that come with a NFL QB? I think he can show the pup 1000 things, things like don’t go to Vegas after you just let your whole team down. Things like you stay and watch the film and see what you did wrong and make a plan to NOT do it again. Things like lead your team and show the a work ethic that is second to none.
Yeah, what the F u(k can he do?
Herrera is a complete moron and should not be shown to the public – he’s a worse embarrassment than Emperor Al trying to run a football team using the force. If that looser thinks Gannon has nothing to offer, it just goes to show you he knows nothing about how to work for a NFL football team.
January 7th, 2010 at 6:49 am
I think we are much closer to having a complete good unit on Defense, than we are with our young offense. IMO
Fix the Defense and add OL depth with the draft, and add some players from FA like a QB, WR, G, C, and even a RT.
Also cut Cooper, green, Pears, and both FBs.
January 7th, 2010 at 6:50 am
vegas raider Says:
January 7th, 2010 at 6:46 am
In Russell’s and his family and friends eyes, no matter what happens he will be a success. Who am I to tell them what defines “success”, but as I’ve said a million times, Russell, in his eyes, already made it to the top of the mountain.
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This is something you would think the organization could find out about by questioning college & H.S. coaches, teammates friends. They should have known this kid was lazy and just looking for a lottery win.
January 7th, 2010 at 6:50 am
If Gannon was being serious why not go to him and leave it out of the public eye. Gannon was great but has been told no once already why cant he get that through his head.
January 7th, 2010 at 6:52 am
I dont expect Jmac to start for us in 2010 0r 2011 but maybe 2012
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that would make perfect sense 4eva. LOL
2012 will be his contract year so he might get motivated for another HUGE unearned payday…
January 7th, 2010 at 6:52 am
WONDER IF PLUNKETT HAS EVER TRY’D TO TALK TO RUSSELL..
January 7th, 2010 at 6:53 am
got some work to do. later gents!
January 7th, 2010 at 6:53 am
You cant even understand what the hell Plunkett is saying when he talks. Listening to him and Flores OMFG wow and then there Atkinson wow.
January 7th, 2010 at 6:55 am
I guess Russell being successful of what he actually wanted to do makes sense. Hey, I don’t think I’ll ever make $32 million guaranteed…do you? But…gawd…what ever happened to earning it?
January 7th, 2010 at 6:55 am
RaiderRockstar:
From Cochrans column: the Raiders signed wide receiver Shaun Bodiford to a futures contract. Bodiford spent part of this past season on the Raiders practice squad. Such players become free agents at season’s end unless they are signed to a futures
January 7th, 2010 at 7:00 am
(paraphrasing)When the Colts asked Manning and Leaf what they would do with the money, Manning said he would put it away and go to work. Leaf said in so many words he would go have a good time. Polian drafted Manning. Wonder what JaLosers answer would have been?
January 7th, 2010 at 7:00 am
Yahoo sports top story this morning….
What do Russell and Leaf have in common? Vegas, baby!
http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/blog/shutdown_corner/post/What-do-Russell-and-Leaf-have-in-common-Vegas-?urn=nfl,211987
January 7th, 2010 at 7:00 am
Re: Gannon.
The Hackett logic is sound. He is a good coach, and trustworthy to Al. Gannon shoots off his mouth too much.
In fact, I bet Al automatically writes off anyone who goes to work for the media. They can’t be trusted. Media and football = oil and water to Al. Has he ever made a significant hire of someone who spent time in the media? Not in my memory.
January 7th, 2010 at 7:02 am
exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:
January 7th, 2010 at 7:00 am
(paraphrasing)When the Colts asked Manning and Leaf what they would do with the money, Manning said he would put it away and go to work. Leaf said in so many words he would go have a good time. Polian drafted Manning. Wonder what JaLosers answer would have been?
AD staff probably never even talked to him before they drafted him.
January 7th, 2010 at 7:07 am
Watched the video clip of JaMarcus.
Big city streets are full of small town kids who leave their quiet upbringings and get lost in the pace of the city. Too many distractions and temptations.
Kind of reminds me of Todd Marinovich. He never experienced anything other than what his father let him have, then when he was on his own, he went nuts.
I really think he’s going to have a hard time focusing on football now. He got some fast living to catch up to.
January 7th, 2010 at 7:08 am
I’m back….
Texguy,exla….yeah,I read that story on Yahoo.
January 7th, 2010 at 7:09 am
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Right from the top of the Sirius Blitz show:
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So Rich, did Mr. Davis return your call?
Gannon(laughing) had these points to say:
-He’s not looking for a job and has been offered plenty of coaching jobs.
-He was just looking to help out a kid that has really struggled
-(this is my favourite!) He’s not the king and all the kings men and he cant put humpty dumpty back together again but he thought he could talk to him and try to help him out like he did Aaron Rodgers and some QB’s in TB & Minny.
-Lastly, he won’t be making that call again
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January 7th, 2010 at 7:10 am
texguy Says:
January 7th, 2010 at 7:02 am
exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:
January 7th, 2010 at 7:00 am
(paraphrasing)When the Colts asked Manning and Leaf what they would do with the money, Manning said he would put it away and go to work. Leaf said in so many words he would go have a good time. Polian drafted Manning. Wonder what JaLosers answer would have been?
AD staff probably never even talked to him before they drafted him.
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Manning showed up to the interview with a list of questions. Leaf showed up with a hangover.
If the Raiders had that first pick, they would have taken Leaf because of his arm strength.
January 7th, 2010 at 7:10 am
http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/blog/shutdown_corner/post/What-do-Russell-and-Leaf-have-in-common-Vegas-?urn=nfl,211987
If anyone missed it.
January 7th, 2010 at 7:14 am
Morning NATION… Cable watch day 4..
January 7th, 2010 at 7:18 am
Had to go see who we took that year-Mo Collins with the 23rd pick.
January 7th, 2010 at 7:19 am
neilb Says:
January 7th, 2010 at 7:18 am
Had to go see who we took that year-Mo Collins with the 23rd pick.
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And Woodson at 4
January 7th, 2010 at 7:21 am
Sorry….Woodsen with the 4th aswell.
I’ll go get my Moss #18 jersey……..
January 7th, 2010 at 7:23 am
Bender ( r.i.p ) in the 2nd and Ritchie in the 3rd.
January 7th, 2010 at 7:28 am
Wasn’t Bender the guy who passed prior to getting into camp that year?
January 7th, 2010 at 7:31 am
Yes,can’t remember exactly what happened.
January 7th, 2010 at 7:32 am
Bender was found dead on May 30, 1998 in the home of Terry Bolar in Marietta, Georgia. Bender was visiting Bolar, an associate of Eugene Parker, Bender’s agent. The Cobb County (Ga.) medical examiner’s office confirmed on June 10, that a seizure disorder was the cause of death.
January 7th, 2010 at 7:40 am
Sorry Texguy,you already posted the Leaf/Russell/Vegas story.
January 7th, 2010 at 7:45 am
Thanks Neilb! Very sad! And we also had one that was shot to death??? A rb, I think???
January 7th, 2010 at 7:48 am
Did we ? Doesn’t ring a bell.
Robbins was shot but lived….can’t think of any others.
January 7th, 2010 at 7:49 am
Any one wanna talk playoffs?… Eagles? Vikings? dare I say Chargers?
January 7th, 2010 at 7:52 am
Tim Hall, a former Oakland Raiders player, was shot and killed in Kansas City, Mo., when a car in which he was riding was fired upon by two men in another car, the police said yesterday.
Hall, 24, a Kansas City native, was released during training camp after spending the past two seasons as a backup running back and special teams player for the Raiders.
This the one you’re thinking of Hwnrdr ?
January 7th, 2010 at 7:52 am
What a Dumb move This org is going banannas! turn down Gannon ? we need all the help we can get! Especially JaMarcus w/ his fat ass. Boy u need some serious training …Get off your high horse and become the QB u are PAID to Be!!! I actually still have Your Photo still on my wall Which is abt to come down!!Fire Herrera!!WE NEED CHUCKIE!!!!!LDYNBLK 26
January 7th, 2010 at 7:52 am
Robbins was shot 3 times by detectives and LIVED….Like I’ve said B4,Robbins was the BOMB and a DOMINATING CENTER….hate looking back but if Robbins plays in S/B we win,NO DOUBT.As Lincoln Kennedy said,we would tell the defense what play it was,Try And Stop Us!
We havent been dominating on offense sinse we had a dominating CENTER,imo
January 7th, 2010 at 7:53 am
PUT a hold on Duh Markus ‘ Money see how fast things will change….
January 7th, 2010 at 7:53 am
Not that bothered who wins the Superbowl…..as long as it’s not the chargers or the pats.
Just hoping for some good football!
January 7th, 2010 at 7:55 am
Raider O Says:
January 7th, 2010 at 6:32 am
I was watching NFLN the other day, and they had the top 10 LBs. The Raiders were # 8 ( I think). They talked about how 53 was a speed guy, 55 was a force in the middle, and 83 was tall and good at rushing the passer. I’m thinking we have a 53 who is very fast, and we 91 who is good at rushing the passer, so maybe all we are missing is that force in the middle.
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Nice memory, but a little bit of a stretch.
Martin, Millen and Hendricks could all tackle and hit.
They were expert at removing QB’s from games
January 7th, 2010 at 7:56 am
Id like 2C Warner get another one,if we aint in it
January 7th, 2010 at 7:58 am
4eva..
Otto,Danby,Mosebar,Robbins then nothing.
January 7th, 2010 at 7:59 am
Maybe if Favre gets another one he’ll finally retire.
January 7th, 2010 at 8:00 am
Oakland needs another All Pro center
January 7th, 2010 at 8:01 am
Time to go….
Later my friends.
January 7th, 2010 at 8:01 am
NeilB…I thought that there was one who was shot and killed while in training camp or right about the time that he was going to play the preseason…a rookie, I believe…But thanks for that bit.
As for SB…with DRC maybe out…it may be tough on AZ, but i would like to see them get one!
January 7th, 2010 at 8:04 am
neilb Says:
January 7th, 2010 at 7:59 am
Maybe if Favre gets another one he’ll finally retire.
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Sorry, Tom Cable already endorsed Satele for 2010, so more of the same if you re-elect Tom Cable my friend.
January 7th, 2010 at 8:04 am
Have a nice day Neilb!
January 7th, 2010 at 8:05 am
If Cinci wins it all then there is hope for us, but I’m thinking Philly gets its act together and finally wins it all… Its gonna be tough for anybody to beat SD though, that Philip Rivers kid is the real deal…
January 7th, 2010 at 8:10 am
Saints vs. Colts with the Saints winning
January 7th, 2010 at 8:13 am
This is crap. Gannon can offer maybe a fresh set of eyes to a piece of crap player they say is such a talent.
I don’t even think big al knows gannon called. herrera probably don’t tell him nothing. I think herrera thinks when al passes he will be boss.
Dude, on more than one occassion I have asked BHP if he was H
January 7th, 2010 at 8:13 am
The doltz defense will let them down this year,imo.But yeah Rivers and V.Jackson plus Sproles and lady tomlinson are formidable.But,alas….Just like Hadl and Fouts,a quick striking offense will wear down its OWN defense,imo
January 7th, 2010 at 8:15 am
Dakota,
I was going to ask you if you needed help shoveling but the snow is expected to start here any minute. lol
January 7th, 2010 at 8:15 am
Wow, I guess you Garbagekowski fans are going to be pissed lol:
Oakland Ledger staff and wire report
Posted: 01/07/2010 07:23:00 AM PST
John Fiensberg, agent for Raiders Quarterback Bruce Gradkowski, has told the press that he has been informed by the Oakland Raiders that his client will not be retained when he becomes a free agent this offseason and that the quarterback that gave so many fans so much hope for the future after replacing embattled quarterback Jamarcus Russell, should seek opportunities with other teams as soon as the free agency period begins on February 27th, 2010. This news seems to indicate that the Oakland Raiders fully intend on moving forward with Russell as the franchise quarterback despite questions about his attitude and work ethic.
http://www.oaklandledger.com/raiders_just messingwithya
January 7th, 2010 at 8:18 am
lou holtz on MT CODY. ”25 tackles and ZERO sacks for the season. MT CODY,. don’t tell me how good this guy is”
OOOOOOOOOOOOOOUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCCCCCCCCCCCCCHHHHHHHHHHHH
January 7th, 2010 at 8:18 am
News like that will WARM the Nation on a day like today,Dakota….make our blood BOIL it will =)
January 7th, 2010 at 8:19 am
C’mon Dakota, lol, I actually took the bait.
January 7th, 2010 at 8:20 am
La Milicia Negra imo was spot on saying Herrera is a liar, just spinning the news to not make the Raiders look stupid. But everyone knows upper management is stupid, and asleep most of the time.
I also like the comments by Raiderzmaverick about how ass-backwards the upper management is that they’d ostracize Gannon and try to ban him, and say nasty things about him, yet do so much to feather Russell’s ass. It’s a perfect indictment on how out of touch and deranged upper management is.
I also wouldn’t be surprised if Davis sees 2008/9 the same way….both coaches failed to turn Russell into a “great” QB, and would be thinking “got to get another coach and another OC etc to turn my $40m investment into a SB winner” rather than accepting his own draft picks blow and that he’s already flushed $40m down the toilet on a bust. Hence, Fassell, Gilbride brought in mainly for that reason.
It’s also interesting how Gradkowski was stressing how he really hopes it truly is an open QB competition next year. Cos he’s intimating how it’s been in 2009 already, Davis insisting on his draftees starting, Cable hamstrung, having to toe the line to have a job, and the players all aware of the sacred cow (russell) and despising him.
When you have Herrera being such a vile idiot it clearly reveals how nuts Davis has become. A literal tyrant badly out of touch. How he would even get so offended by Gannon doing his job and justifiably constructively criticizing what’s wrong inside the Raiders. How he would be so insistent being told he’s a genius and is always right and makes the best picks etc etc.
January 7th, 2010 at 8:20 am
i may not have said his quote word for word, but holtz was basically saying that this man is grossly overrated. i don’t know personally as i’ve never seen him play
January 7th, 2010 at 8:20 am
testing
January 7th, 2010 at 8:22 am
Just look at ALL the good you can do 4 the Nation Dakota when your mind isnt filled with “displeasure” at oh say a certain coach or RB!
Laughter….The BEST MEDICINE HAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOOL!!!!!
January 7th, 2010 at 8:24 am
JB wont let me post this link!
January 7th, 2010 at 8:25 am
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January 7th, 2010 at 8:26 am
lil help Nation….
January 7th, 2010 at 8:26 am
:p
January 7th, 2010 at 8:27 am
408
January 7th, 2010 at 8:27 am
muhahahahaaaa
January 7th, 2010 at 8:27 am
Four0Eight.. 408…
ok I’m done…
January 7th, 2010 at 8:28 am
this all goes back to what i was saying yesterday, the people close to al hate the coaches who try and change the culture that they are so comfortable in. they poison al’s mind and probably keep him out of the loop on most things. it’s pathetic.
January 7th, 2010 at 8:28 am
ha ha thanx Dakota.. gotta get to work now
January 7th, 2010 at 8:30 am
Exla,
We didn’t get much snow in Hot Springs, but it is -13 degrees right now and it is supposed to drop to -25 degrees as the day goes on…..
Good luck with the snow!
January 7th, 2010 at 8:35 am
Hobs Gnarly…
I think Al’s mind is self-poisoned and these sycophants in upper management just go along with everything, sell their souls to him for the money/job. And/or he’s surrounded himself by people who literally think exactly the way he does, see things the way he does (like, Amy) so therefore he’d always seem in the right, never contradicted, always validated he’s doing the right thing.
Just like how on this message board, you get a lot of pro-Al people who all pat each other on the back-side and defend their common beliefs/goals…while we have all the realists who do the same but at least they’re on the side of Truth and Common Sense.
January 7th, 2010 at 8:37 am
Steve Corkran followed up on both issues today with senior executive John Hererra, who confirmed, “JaMarcus was in Las Vegas, and he was there with a (Raiders staff member). He was there for a legitimate reason.”
Maybe he is in Vegas with Amy Trask?
hubba hubba
January 7th, 2010 at 8:37 am
Old news but…
Gannon just said that when he has spoken with Gruden, gruden would love to go back and work in Oakland but knows it will never happen, but they and Bruce Allen still want to see the organization succeed.
Gannon feels sorry for ex-teammates Lechler, Jano & Aso
January 7th, 2010 at 8:38 am
Big Al see’s the won-loss record….he doesnt need anyone to poison his mind,imo
January 7th, 2010 at 8:39 am
# hwnrdr Says:
January 7th, 2010 at 6:06 am
LOL…so if we all wake up on December 22, 2012…then what?
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we might be in the playoffs…. nah i believe that as much as the world is ending…
January 7th, 2010 at 8:41 am
# DIRT-LOT FOOTBALL Says:
January 7th, 2010 at 6:08 am
GOOD MORNING SPORT’S FANS,CONVERT RUSSELL TO LONG-SNAPPER..
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hell no, we have one of the leagues best LS, in Jon Condo, make JR a MLB =)
January 7th, 2010 at 8:43 am
LMN,
How is it going? Haven’t seen you around during this time very often anymore. Did you get a new schedule or something?
January 7th, 2010 at 8:45 am
r8dr4lfe21 Says:
January 7th, 2010 at 6:22 am
We have had continental drifts, dinasours, massive earthquakes, ice age, tsunamis, hale bop comet, haleys comet, president bush for 8 years, and the world is still turning we’ll be fine.
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all of those have been items of concern…
but it’s the freaking mayans that piss me off !!!
mayans… dammit !!!!
January 7th, 2010 at 8:45 am
Btw, just wanted to also say:-
RMR i have a ton of respect for you.
But also I love all the regulars here. You guys are some of the funniest ever. But also very football smart. I couldnt name you all, but whenever im here i just sit and read every single post and I’m constantly laughing at all the funny stuff and constantly provoked by thought reading the meaty stuff.
January 7th, 2010 at 8:47 am
anyone seen cody play that also thinks he is overrated?????????????
January 7th, 2010 at 8:48 am
we must go oline 1st mlb 2nd
January 7th, 2010 at 8:48 am
got some swine-flu added a handful of bird-flu, and got it to boil… I suspect some here to try to assassin me….
gotta do better than that…
January 7th, 2010 at 8:50 am
“It’s Rich that needs the help,” Herrera said. “When he goes on a radio show offering Mr. Davis help, Tom Cable help, the Raiders help, maybe it’s Rich that needs the help.”
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Herrera is a douche bag, but we have to remember these are not his words, they are Al’s words that Herrera is just parroting.
Al, you need loads of help…you are the worst GM in the NFL. Your work makes Matt Millen look good.
January 7th, 2010 at 8:51 am
Herrera is a D-BAG!
I don’t believe ANYTHING this piece of crap says…Yeah JR is there with a member of the staff, it’s his bodyguard/personal assistant. Cause we all know, JR can’t FIGHT his way out of a wet paper bag!
Hope Javon is giving him a guided tour of the town…
January 7th, 2010 at 8:51 am
Testing 1-2!
January 7th, 2010 at 8:52 am
Dakota Says:
January 7th, 2010 at 8:37 am
Steve Corkran followed up on both issues today with senior executive John Hererra, who confirmed, “JaMarcus was in Las Vegas, and he was there with a (Raiders staff member). He was there for a legitimate reason.”
Maybe he is in Vegas with Amy Trask?
hubba hubba
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naw, man… he was there with Candy Beaver, al’s personal masseuse…
January 7th, 2010 at 8:53 am
Candy Beaver?
lmao
January 7th, 2010 at 8:54 am
Al Davis is in a serious state of denial, and Herrera knows he’s gone the minute Davis is.
Winning, at this point, has nothing to do with it. It’s all about self-preservation.
January 7th, 2010 at 8:54 am
new englandraider Says:
January 7th, 2010 at 8:47 am
anyone seen cody play that also thinks he is overrated?????????????
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imagine one of those concrete divider things…
now imagine one with feet…
that’s Cody…
you be the judge…
January 7th, 2010 at 8:55 am
Good to be back Nation!
Had to work 28-30 hours in the last 48hrs. We’re getting ready for the CES Show here in Vegas!
Seems like I missed alot the last couple of days!
January 7th, 2010 at 8:57 am
Dakota Says:
January 7th, 2010 at 8:53 am
Candy Beaver?
lmao
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i used to date a gal whose stage name was Candy Beaver back in the early 70’s…
danced at the Sportman’s II up in Anchorage…
man… she was screaming hot…
man…
um…
i’ll be back in a bit…
January 7th, 2010 at 8:58 am
pete, thx. just asking. heard lou holtz on radio saying the guy was very over hyped. that the production just wasn’t there. i have never seen him play. holtz is old, but a very evaluator of talent.
January 7th, 2010 at 9:00 am
Morning to all.
January 7th, 2010 at 9:00 am
easy pete. i thought that pecker of urs doesnt work that well. lol. just kidding bro. u said it not me
January 7th, 2010 at 9:00 am
hey dmac. wassup brother?? u start ur offseason program yet?
January 7th, 2010 at 9:01 am
RMS REALITY: This is RMS Reality calling RMS Raiders come in please.
RMS RAIDERS: RMS Reality, this is RMS Raiders, what can we do for you?
RMS REALITY: RMS Raiders, we noticed that you have hit an iceberg which appears to have ripped a forty foot gash in the side of your ship. What help do you require?
RMS RAIDERS: RMS Reality, please mind your own business, we have the situation under complete control. We have a guy bailing water with a kitchen strainer, so please fuk off.
RMS REALITY: If you say so. Good luck and god speed!
RMS RAIDERS: Go fly a kite!
January 7th, 2010 at 9:04 am
Dakota….that is an excellent comparison!!!
January 7th, 2010 at 9:04 am
new englandraider Says:
January 7th, 2010 at 8:58 am
pete, thx. just asking. heard lou holtz on radio saying the guy was very over hyped. that the production just wasn’t there. i have never seen him play. holtz is old, but a very evaluator of talent.
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*Jamarcus will be great*
Al Davis is old, but a very good evaluator of talent ;^)
January 7th, 2010 at 9:04 am
dakota…. the clippers bro???????????????
January 7th, 2010 at 9:05 am
Wassup England. Yeah I’m jogging and blogging as we speak.
January 7th, 2010 at 9:06 am
#439 Dakota
ROTFL… awwww this team is such an easy target!
January 7th, 2010 at 9:07 am
CARL, i don’t know dude. just asking. don’t really follow college football since the local book maker croaked. been about 4 yrs. just have heard more negative talk regarding cody than positive. most say there is a lack of effort at times. lack of production…. etc…..
January 7th, 2010 at 9:07 am
new englandraider Says:
January 7th, 2010 at 9:04 am
dakota…. the clippers bro???????????????
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That was bad…I couldn’t bring myself to watch the second half…they looked so uninspired.
January 7th, 2010 at 9:08 am
I originally picked Pitt vs. Vikes for the bowl beginning of the year.
I’m looking forward to a Saints / Vikings matchup. Hope it happens.
I really don’t like any team repping the AFC. The Colts irritate me seeing they score at will with whoever is at wide out. lol It’s a long shot, but how bout the Bungles or Ravens? eh, I doubt it.
January 7th, 2010 at 9:08 am
The only good thing to come from the last 7 seasons plus 1 game, it doesn’t sting when they lose.
Seriously it’s been a couple of years now that I just don’t get upset anymore.
It used to ruin my Sunday when they lost, now I just laugh when I see a DE coming around the corner, swatting Jabusts arm, ball comes out Jabba hits the dirt, turnover followed by 7.
January 7th, 2010 at 9:09 am
Dakota Says:
January 7th, 2010 at 9:01 am
RMS REALITY: If you say so. Good luck and god speed!
RMS RAIDERS: Go fly a kite!
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ten seconds later…
RMS RAIDERS: if you intend to continue to watch… your going to have to pay for that privilege…
your going to need a personal seat license…
your going to need tickets to future voyages…
and your going to need to pay for anchorage…
January 7th, 2010 at 9:09 am
dmac, please don’t fall and skin ur knees. i have hope 4 u. ive told u that. 3rd nfl season will be a breakthrough year for u…. won’t it????????? just watch out for the crosswalk lines, as they are much bigger than the hashmarks u usually trip over
January 7th, 2010 at 9:11 am
Those statements by Herera are classic!
It goes to show exactly how detached from reality those who are running this ship really are.
Who the fu(k does Herera think he is?
He’s got to be the biggest hack,flunky,nitwit,sorry excuse for an NFL exec EVER.
Yeah go ahead and blast Gannon you stupid douchebag,once Al’s rotting you will never sniff another NFL job again!
January 7th, 2010 at 9:11 am
NE Raider… I don’t have time to watch much college football, maybe 2 g or 3 games a season and a few bowl games.
I was just noting that your statement could be the exact same with Davis name rather than Holtz.
January 7th, 2010 at 9:12 am
dakota, i got a ? 4 u. do u have nba league pass???? i ask because everytime lakers on national tv i get mad. espn had game last night. totally missed 1st qrtr. most every time they are on nationally league pass says program not available in ur area. then u miss half the 1st qrtr or more. does that happen where ur at??????
January 7th, 2010 at 9:12 am
Nope. Got my A D I D A S on.
January 7th, 2010 at 9:13 am
We have a guy bailing water with a kitchen strainer, so please fuk off.
Muahahahahhaha
January 7th, 2010 at 9:14 am
new englandraider Says:
January 7th, 2010 at 9:09 am
dmac, please don’t fall and skin ur knees. i have hope 4 u. ive told u that. 3rd nfl season will be a breakthrough year for u…. won’t it????????? just watch out for the crosswalk lines, as they are much bigger than the hashmarks u usually trip over
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i sent him a note last year…
“Dmac… just wanna help… all you have to do is remember this: step on a crack, break yo momma’s back…”
the answer came back from John Herrera:
go fly a kite.
January 7th, 2010 at 9:14 am
All
Day
I
Dream
About
Staying on my feet???????????????????
January 7th, 2010 at 9:17 am
Herrera has got to be the only football executive without ANY education or football background to speak of…
“With the exception of a two-year stint in Saskatchewan as GM of the CFL Roughriders (early ’80s), John Herrera has been a fixture in Raiders HQ throughout the entire Al Davis era.”
January 7th, 2010 at 9:18 am
We really need a true MLB. It will do wonders for our defense. Uncle Al please draft a solid MLB, preferbly McClain or Spikes.
January 7th, 2010 at 9:18 am
new englandraider Says:
January 7th, 2010 at 9:12 am
dakota, i got a ? 4 u. do u have nba league pass???? i ask because everytime lakers on national tv i get mad. espn had game last night. totally missed 1st qrtr. most every time they are on nationally league pass says program not available in ur area. then u miss half the 1st qrtr or more. does that happen where ur at??????
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No, I do not have the NBA league pass. I see them enough on TNT, ESPN and NBATV, and I usually also get to see the games they play at the Nuggets and Bulls as I have the Denver station and WGN.
I follow the games I can’t watch on sportsline.com
Last night I had to watch the first quarter on ESPN Classic because of the overtime game between Whogivesafuk College and We-are-pussieshowbout U in the GMC Totally Meaningless Bowl.
January 7th, 2010 at 9:18 am
i hear u carl, but more alleged analysts have something negative to say about the guy. more than just holtz. cant name anyone other than him, but as i said most ? his effort. thats not what we need here.
January 7th, 2010 at 9:21 am
DAKOTA yes, they put it on classic. however about 3 months ago they put classic with the ’sports pack’ which i do not purchase. i spent enough $$$$ for football, baseball and basketball package. just hate the national games. more often than not, we are the 2nd game of double header and the 1st game ALWAYS runs into 2nd. at least they hold up most playoff games now. but its retarded that these people cant figure it out that the games constantly over lap
January 7th, 2010 at 9:21 am
LOL! #439
What a clown this Herrera cat is. Complete classless moron.
January 7th, 2010 at 9:22 am
Check out all games. May not be the clearest, but you get to watch them play.
http://p2p4u.net/
January 7th, 2010 at 9:23 am
morning to all!
but seriously? this is supposed to be a business isnt it? then why is the front office acting as if they are in the f***ing 3rd grade?
January 7th, 2010 at 9:23 am
New England Raider,
Plus, if you have NBA TV, they usually show a large part of each Lakers game during their NBA Gametime broadcasts.
January 7th, 2010 at 9:24 am
the proper response should have been, “we appreciate rich’s offer to help, however we have decided to look in other areas to improve our football team.” end of press conference.
right?
January 7th, 2010 at 9:25 am
New Englandraider,
Yeah, I do hate that…especially when it is the Celtics or Cavs in the first half of the double header…sometimes I think they purposefully delay the end of the game to fuk with Lakers fans lol.
January 7th, 2010 at 9:26 am
i have nba tv, but i dislike that channel as well. we are more often than not the tuesday night fan night game. and while the games going on you have to listen to frankenstein Mchale hating on the lakers. speaking of mchale… forbes magazine gm of the decade….. what????????? guess mitch kupchak is more of a thief than a gm. i.e pau and shannon for kwame and vlad rad. although marc gasol is a beast
January 7th, 2010 at 9:26 am
Forgive me if someone already brought this up (I have not had a chance to go through all the posts yet)
Anyways I just put 2 and 2 together. Jamarcus is in Vegas meeting with his soon to be head coach (Jim Fassel). Apperently my worst nightmare has been realised. Cable is gone and Jamarcus is staying-NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO another season down the tubes, we are so effed. Maybe the Raiders will pour more salt in my wounds and trade M. Bush. Lord help us!
January 7th, 2010 at 9:30 am
You would think,RaiderD
January 7th, 2010 at 9:31 am
Rich Gannon is disappointed in the Raiders sucess the last several years and is displaying his hardship through a few ill aligned comments out of frustration. All Raider fans have demonstrated frustrations one way or another from the miserable ways of the Raiders performances.Why is it any different that Gannon wants to help the Raiders in any way. It would be more disheartening to me if he had no compassion for the Raiders.It would be more disconcerting if he disassociated himself from the Raiders.
Rich gannon did have a terrible Superbowl game and he would be the first one to tell you. That one lousy game should not define all of his positive impact on the Raiders organization. By the way, during the Superbowl game did you see how lincoln Kennedy and the rest of the offensive linemen were getting their butts kicked. It shocked the hell out of me so I know it shocked the hell out Gannon. I Know, Still no excuse for countless interceptions.
I will remember Rich gannon for all the great games he had with the Raiders.The Raiders had more great times with Gannon than bad. I will not let the bad times with him outlive the good.
Raiders Be with You
January 7th, 2010 at 9:32 am
# RaiderD Says:
January 7th, 2010 at 9:24 am
the proper response should have been, “we appreciate rich’s offer to help, however we have decided to look in other areas to improve our football team.” end of press conference.
right?
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Yes, if there was any voice of reason in the front office. No Ron Wolfe, LoCasale, or Bruce Allen. Herrera is a moron yes-man.
January 7th, 2010 at 9:32 am
“mchale… forbes magazine gm of the decade…..”
WTF? Are you serious? What a JOKE!!!!!!
Why? because he traded KG to the Celtics instead of getting Bynum and Odom for KG from the Lakers? Or was it because he set his franchise back five years with the Joe Smith debacle?
As to Marc Gasol…yeah…wish he hadn’t been thrown in as part of that trade…Trade Bynum and Odom or Artest for LBJ this summer and get Marc Gasol back from Memphis and let him play along side Pau…yeah baby!
January 7th, 2010 at 9:32 am
HairyBush….relax.
Vegas has informed us Fassell lives in Az. and is NOT in Las Vegas at this time
January 7th, 2010 at 9:32 am
i think its a cop out hairybush, i think they are just saying there is a raider rep with him.
its just another way of AlD protecting his investment, he doesnt want us picking on JRuss anymore.
so stop it guys, you’re making him cry.
January 7th, 2010 at 9:33 am
Herera is there to gently cup Al’s balls and tell him everything is gonna be alright,stir geritol into the punch-bowl and release hostile,idiotic press statements aimed at REAL NFL guys.
What has this team become…?
Everyday it gets harder to support this franchise.
Talk about the inmates running the asylum.
I can picture Herera chasing Davis around the hallways(Davis wearing a hospital gown open at the back with his old as hanging out)yelling “medication time”.
January 7th, 2010 at 9:36 am
I’m glad to hear there may be hope. I can’t believe how they cover for Jamarcus, it’s rather sickening. I really don’t know what to expect out of the meeting between Cable and stinky diapers next monday, any insight?
January 7th, 2010 at 9:38 am
just bs with mchale… gm of the decade. how many playoff series did minnesota win in the decade? 5 tops
January 7th, 2010 at 9:38 am
I personally now know 4 season ticket holders that aren’t renewing next season. And the rest of you guys that go to the games should Paper bag it.
January 7th, 2010 at 9:38 am
refocus guys-uhhh this a RAIDER forum
January 7th, 2010 at 9:39 am
newengland Raider where are u from?-I’m in ma
January 7th, 2010 at 9:40 am
From Raider Beat via AP:
List of Raiders restricted FA’s if there is no CBA extension. OAKLAND RAIDERS: Jon Alston, LB; Khalif Barnes, T; Ricky Brown, LB; Charlie Frye, QB; Thomas Howard, LB; Kirk Morrison, LB; Stanford Routt, CB.
January 7th, 2010 at 9:40 am
With the 8th pick in the 2010 NFL Draft, the Oakland Raiders select….oh who gives a fuk, they will blow it no matter what.
January 7th, 2010 at 9:41 am
resticted means we can match offer?
January 7th, 2010 at 9:41 am
are we that devoid of hope in here dakota?
January 7th, 2010 at 9:43 am
Hope sucks,and it doesn’t exist in Oakland.
Not til that funeral bell rings.
January 7th, 2010 at 9:43 am
It’s to bad they are going to penalize teams for dumping salaries even if there is no CBA. bye bye J. Walker among many others!
January 7th, 2010 at 9:45 am
RaiderD Says:
January 7th, 2010 at 9:41 am
are we that devoid of hope in here dakota?
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I am usually pumped about the draft…even this early in the offseason…but not this season. Everyone on planet earth knows we need help on the o-line, DT and LB, but we will probably draft a S, CB or WR…or maybe a kicker to replace Jano with the #8 pick.
Last year’s out of nowhere dipschit selection of DHB makes me want to throw up.
January 7th, 2010 at 9:46 am
There’s nothing the league could do to this team that would be worse than what it’s owner has been doing for close to a decade now.
January 7th, 2010 at 9:51 am
OFL71-this is true (unfortunetley)
January 7th, 2010 at 9:51 am
[...] yesterday, you delivered the final blow as you broke Gannon’s olive branch in half and tossed it back into his face then reassured us all [...]
January 7th, 2010 at 9:51 am
dakota,
you know i wouldnt have minded the selection of DHB so much if we picked him in the 2nd. what makes me mad is there were other positions that needed help and AlDs goes and drafts him in the first. im pretty sure we could have gotten some OL or DL or even MLB help last draft.
January 7th, 2010 at 9:53 am
Alex Mack comes to mind,imo
January 7th, 2010 at 9:58 am
I cant wait 4 the presser.. Big Al needs 2 get rid of the overhead projector in get a touch screen.
January 7th, 2010 at 10:00 am
RaiderD Says:
January 7th, 2010 at 9:51 am
dakota,
you know i wouldnt have minded the selection of DHB so much if we picked him in the 2nd. what makes me mad is there were other positions that needed help and AlDs goes and drafts him in the first. im pretty sure we could have gotten some OL or DL or even MLB help last draft.
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If I was our GM last year I would have drafted Monroe in round 1 and Unger in Round 2
or
Raji in round 1 and Loadholt in round 2
January 7th, 2010 at 10:01 am
http://justblogbaby.com/2010/01/07/john-herrera-no-talent-ass-clown/
January 7th, 2010 at 10:04 am
DHB might have fallen to the 3rd round,highly likely.
Mitchell would have been available even later than that(don’t believe that BS that the Bears were about to take him).
Murphy looks like a possible steal if he can get a consistent QB.
Other than Murphy last years draft was another debacle.
All 3 USC LB are gonna be studs and we passed ‘em by like a dirty hitchiker,Crabtree is headstrong but he’s got skill,way more upside than DHB,every year for the last 8 drafts or so I watch all these great young players skip right by as Al plucks these fu(kin bums outta nowhere.
He deserves the “futility of the Raiders”,cause the “Greatness of the Raiders” is a ghost.
January 7th, 2010 at 10:13 am
Dakota Says:
January 7th, 2010 at 10:00 am
RaiderD Says:
January 7th, 2010 at 9:51 am
dakota,
you know i wouldnt have minded the selection of DHB so much if we picked him in the 2nd. what makes me mad is there were other positions that needed help and AlDs goes and drafts him in the first. im pretty sure we could have gotten some OL or DL or even MLB help last draft.
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If I was our GM last year I would have drafted Monroe in round 1 and Unger in Round 2
or
Raji in round 1 and Loadholt in round 2
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i didn’t want to take any chances… i wanted Raji, then Brace int he second…
one way or the other we were gonna get some new blood on the d-line…
January 7th, 2010 at 10:14 am
Someone need’s to bash Herrera’s head in and no no no wait let me see….someone needs to grab Herrera’s hair in the back of his head, drop him to the curb of a street (66th Ave.), make him look at the Coliseum while they open his mouth, stick it on the curb and STOMP ON THE BACK OF HIS HEAD!!!!!!!
January 7th, 2010 at 10:15 am
we should put herrera and kawakami in a cage deathmatch rematch!
January 7th, 2010 at 10:17 am
# 408RAIDER Says:
January 7th, 2010 at 10:01 am
http://justblogbaby.com/2010/01/07/john-herrera-no-talent-ass-clown/
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LOL! Nice!
January 7th, 2010 at 10:17 am
r8eray Says:
January 7th, 2010 at 10:14 am
Someone need’s to bash Herrera’s head in and no no no wait let me see….someone needs to grab Herrera’s hair in the back of his head, drop him to the curb of a street (66th Ave.), make him look at the Coliseum while they open his mouth, stick it on the curb and STOMP ON THE BACK OF HIS HEAD!!!!!!!
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Dayyyyyum…a little American History X action?
January 7th, 2010 at 10:17 am
OFL71 Says:
January 7th, 2010 at 10:04 am
DHB might have fallen to the 3rd round,highly likely.
Mitchell would have been available even later than that(don’t believe that BS that the Bears were about to take him).
Murphy looks like a possible steal if he can get a consistent QB.
Other than Murphy last years draft was another debacle.
All 3 USC LB are gonna be studs and we passed ‘em by like a dirty hitchiker,Crabtree is headstrong but he’s got skill,way more upside than DHB,every year for the last 8 drafts or so I watch all these great young players skip right by as Al plucks these fu(kin bums outta nowhere.
He deserves the “futility of the Raiders”,cause the “Greatness of the Raiders” is a ghost.
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there were about 8 wideouts taken in the 1st round last year…
someone was gonna take this guy…
too bad it was us…
January 7th, 2010 at 10:27 am
OFL71
Shaunessy looks like a pretty good pick, same with Myers.
To give hime some credit, Al has made some pretty good picks the past few drafts. It’s just the big money first round picks suck. Maybe thats why he traded next years 1st for Seymour.
January 7th, 2010 at 10:32 am
Carl Weathers Says:
January 7th, 2010 at 10:27 am
OFL71
Shaunessy looks like a pretty good pick, same with Myers.
To give hime some credit, Al has made some pretty good picks the past few drafts. It’s just the big money first round picks suck. Maybe thats why he traded next years 1st for Seymour.
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i took that trade as an admission of incompetence…
January 7th, 2010 at 10:32 am
I give him NO credit,he picks bust after bust while future Pro-Bowlers are overlooked.
NO CREDIT!
January 7th, 2010 at 10:32 am
Dakota,
and with the eighth pick in the draft the Oakland Raiders choose Jahvid Best, running back, University of California.
he’s really fast, seldom breaks a tackle, needs holes the size of a freight car…Raiders already got one of those types at RB, but the more the merrier (although Jahvid is not known to suffer greatly from fumble-itis)
January 7th, 2010 at 10:33 am
I think Trevor Scott is going to be our Karl Mecklenberg…
January 7th, 2010 at 10:33 am
Curb stomping is frowned upon …. But yeah Herrera needs to go..
January 7th, 2010 at 10:33 am
HAIRY BUSH…. new bedford
January 7th, 2010 at 10:33 am
oh yes, Merry Christmas to all you Eastern Orthodox types out there.
January 7th, 2010 at 10:34 am
OFL71 = the Credit Nazi
NO CREDIT FOR YOU!
lol
January 7th, 2010 at 10:34 am
Russell,DMAC,DHB all players who have not come even close to the production of players picked after them.
The personnel people in Oakland are either totally incompetent or the final say from Al is.
Either way incompetence is the standard when it comes to recent drafts.
January 7th, 2010 at 10:36 am
“credit nazi”
I like that…
January 7th, 2010 at 10:37 am
damn a college qb (julian eddleman)(sp) plays for the patsies, 17 catches. a college qb. damn is guess there isn’t any hope 4 dhb
January 7th, 2010 at 10:37 am
Florida Pete Says:
January 7th, 2010 at 10:33 am
I think Trevor Scott is going to be our Karl Mecklenberg…
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Broncos LB from the 80’s? testing my memory here…
January 7th, 2010 at 10:37 am
The more I look at things, I am pretty confidant Al will take Tim Tebow with our second round pick.
Al always talks about TD’s right? Tebow has the most collegiate TD’s ever I think. Physical specimens? Tebow is a pretty impressive athlete and will be a combine wonder. Think any other QB will bench more than Tebow? What about run faster?
Bring on the bible-thumper. Maybe the Oakland Raiders can be the Tebow families next big reclamation project for JC.
January 7th, 2010 at 10:37 am
passed em like a dirty hitchhiker lol
January 7th, 2010 at 10:38 am
M,
but hit him hard enough and hes prone to barfing! lol!
January 7th, 2010 at 10:40 am
Tebow is prayin hard right now….prayin hard that Oakland doesn’t draft him.
Would he denounce his god if the Raiders drafted him….?
Inquiring minds want to know.
January 7th, 2010 at 10:40 am
I think a lot of our problems with our first round picks have to do with the way they have been handled.
From Gallery being constantly shifted around, through Huff being played out of position to Russell not being in camp on time and not being given the proper guidance and leadership and being enabled by Al “Players Rule, Coaches Drool” Davis.
Sometimes I think it wouldn’t have mattered who we picked, Al would just fuk them up no matter who they were.
Oakland Raiders…where talented first round players go to die.
January 7th, 2010 at 10:43 am
For whatever reason top 10 picks are huge busts.
Go through any draft and you will find just as many top 10 busts as Pro Bowlers.
Look at this years top 10: DHB, Jason Smith, Andre Smith, Tyvon Jackson (KC pick)….all big flops who literally did nothing this year. DHB might be the most productive of that group, lol.
Who is a Pro Bowler from this top 10 draft? The best guys are Cushing who was 13th or something and Oher who was 21st.
The money ruins some of the kid’s I think.
January 7th, 2010 at 10:44 am
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4GIP5TpN858
watch until the end. its like the exorcist!
January 7th, 2010 at 10:44 am
If we had drafted AP he would still be on the bench behind Fargas. If we had drafted Jake Long, we would have turned him into a RG.
January 7th, 2010 at 10:45 am
Carl Weathers Says:
January 7th, 2010 at 10:37 am
Florida Pete Says:
January 7th, 2010 at 10:33 am
I think Trevor Scott is going to be our Karl Mecklenberg…
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Broncos LB from the 80’s? testing my memory here…
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mecklenberg was awesome… like a 10th rounder or something…
5 or 6 probowls…
i always wondered how he didn’t get picked by the Raideers…
January 7th, 2010 at 10:46 am
Here’s how OUT OF TOUCH I think Al Davis & his cronies are right now.
They attack Ricky’s because if puts up pictures of Jon Gruden having fun with Raider Fans. They attack Rich Gannon because he offers help.
It seems they are attacking the only good thing to ever happen to them since the return to Oakland.
In fact, if you read the past, when there was talk of Jon Gruden coming back I remember Herrera issuing a press statement stating how Gruden is “an an average-at-best coach who we are not interested in”. The press statement was really insulting to him actually. And we tried to BAN Gannon from entering the colesium.
Now, it seems to me that the priorities are WAY OFF and someone is really giving bad advice here. Why go out of your way to attack coaches and players who were successful for your organization and are open to coming back to help?
Maybe they got too much attention instead of Herrera and Davis? Who knows. All I know is that now this Bull $hit is continuing and these same schmucks are issing statements how Russell is GREAT and we know he’s in Vegas and we’re happy about it. What $hit.
January 7th, 2010 at 10:46 am
Al will never draft another QB as long as he lives.
Marinovich in… ‘91? and now Russell 16 years later.
January 7th, 2010 at 10:46 am
Dakota Says:
January 7th, 2010 at 10:44 am
If we had drafted AP he would still be on the bench behind Fargas. If we had drafted Jake Long, we would have turned him into a RG.
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your analysis is: spot on.
January 7th, 2010 at 10:48 am
I got the best draft to piss everyone off:
Round 1- Joe Haden
Round 2- Tim Tebow
Round 3- Syd’Quan Thomspson
Round 3- Demarco Murray
2 DB’s, an unknown QB and a RB.
It’s almost more fun coming up with who we THINK Al will draft, not who he SHOULD draft.
January 7th, 2010 at 10:48 am
I hope he doesn’t draft any other high 1st round pick as long as he lives. He is so illogical about trying to prove that they’re good that he forces them in above all else and kills the team as they suck.
Trade the 1st round pick this year Al. Get Randy Moss back
January 7th, 2010 at 10:50 am
It’s about looking past the flash of top ten scouted players and looking for the substance of quality NFL potential.
Chris Johnson is the perfect example,the guys ridiculous and do you think Oakland gave him a sniff(if they did it was ONLY due to his speed),but Tennessee saw something because their personnel guys actually know what they’re doing.Ray Rice,Mendenhall,Felix Jones,I could go on but Al wants the headline grabbing draft pick instead of true NFL potential.
January 7th, 2010 at 10:52 am
We have to break this double-digit losing streak next year. I hate this “record”. Once we break it, I think one of these other crappy teams will take it from us a few years later, but for now the record is ours.
I think the Rams have won 5 games the last 3 years combined. They are perfect candidates to take the record from us.
January 7th, 2010 at 10:53 am
Trade DMAC for Candy Beaver!
January 7th, 2010 at 10:53 am
“JaMarcus was in Las Vegas, and he was there with a (Raiders) staff member,” Herrera said. “He was there for a legitimate reason.”
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True, because to Al Davis getting totally blasted and sleeping with porn stars is a “legitimate reason.”
January 7th, 2010 at 10:53 am
With any luck he’ll trade this years 1st for a real QB stuck on someones depth chart… Kolb comes to mind and I’m sure there are others.
Who am I kidding it’s gonna be Russell, Losman and some has been like mark Brunnel battling it out next year.
January 7th, 2010 at 10:54 am
The Rams are at least moving in the right direction.
I watched a couple of STL. games this year and they give more effort than Oakland that’s for sure.
January 7th, 2010 at 10:55 am
Carl Weathers Says:
January 7th, 2010 at 10:53 am
With any luck he’ll trade this years 1st for a real QB stuck on someones depth chart… Kolb comes to mind and I’m sure there are others.
Who am I kidding it’s gonna be Russell, Losman and some has been like mark Brunnel battling it out next year.
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Brunell? Not a chance. It will be another Hackett favorite like Chris Simms.
January 7th, 2010 at 10:56 am
They won ONE GAME!!! Have no QB, and their #2 pick was a bigger flop than DHB.
That effort you saw was one guy, Steven Jackson.
January 7th, 2010 at 10:58 am
As a ND fan, I was not an advocate of Brady Quinn, so please do not think that the following statement is due to my allegence to ND:
I wish we could find a way to draft Jimmy Clausen…the kid is going to be a great QB.
January 7th, 2010 at 10:58 am
I think every reasonably intelligent person realizes that nothing is REALLY gonna change until that funeral.
All I can truly hope for is that whoever is in charge after Al goes actually gives a sh*t about the team,the fans and WINNING.
January 7th, 2010 at 10:59 am
M.Bush and Gallery for S.Jackson!
January 7th, 2010 at 11:00 am
Seriously, who is going to fill the huge vaccum that is going to be left after AlD passes?
January 7th, 2010 at 11:00 am
Dakota Says:
January 7th, 2010 at 10:58 am
As a ND fan, I was not an advocate of Brady Quinn, so please do not think that the following statement is due to my allegence to ND:
I wish we could find a way to draft Jimmy Clausen…the kid is going to be a great QB.
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This is more hooey from the guy who wanted THAT BUST DMAC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
January 7th, 2010 at 11:01 am
i hope we go oline. we have had about 30 different combinations during one season. while the JETS oline has started 30 consecutive games 2gether. our oline kills us. even more than jruss. lol. penalties, missed blocks, getting blown up at los. 60% of our oline is garbage. henderson played horribly down the stretch. gallery insists he’ll be ok, but back surgery…. maybe we’ll be ok at rg if we move langston walker there. but we need olinemen. quite a few of em
January 7th, 2010 at 11:02 am
I am well aware of how many games they won thank you.
Despite injury and limited talent they played hard,effort goes farther with me than it does with you apparently.
How many games did you see where Oakland just packed it in against scrub teams?
January 7th, 2010 at 11:04 am
DAKOTA
do u know who tony gaffney is?????????
January 7th, 2010 at 11:05 am
“Seriously, who is going to fill the huge vaccum that is going to be left after AlD passes?”
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The guy who yells at cars on the corner could do better.
January 7th, 2010 at 11:05 am
cant post the link…
“No,” Gannon said. You know, it’s amazing. You try just to reach out to somebody and say something, that maybe you can help a young guy, and you get criticized for it. … I’m not looking for work. I have plenty of jobs that keep me busy. … People think I’m looking for a job. I’ve been offered jobs to get into coaching and to get into management. I have no interest in doing it.
“I just was really looking at a young guy that’s really struggled and just thought that I could reach out to help him out. Listen, I’m not all the king’s horses and I’m not all the king’s men. I can’t put Humpty Dumpty together again. I can’t do that. But I was just looking to figure out a way to go out there and share with them some of the things that helped me as a player and prepare and get myself ready not only for the season but for games each week. I’ve done it with Aaron Rodgers and I’ve done it with quarterbacks in Tampa and Minnesota.
“But, hey, trust me, I won’t make that call again.”
January 7th, 2010 at 11:05 am
vegas raider Says:
January 7th, 2010 at 10:56 am
They won ONE GAME!!! Have no QB, and their #2 pick was a bigger flop than DHB.
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Jason Smith gave up 2 sacks (one to D. Freeney) in five games and missed a bunch of games due to a right knee injury and a concussion and he is a bigger flop than DHB?
I don’t think so, injuries could happen to anyone…you are as off the mark about Jason Smith as you are about Monroe, who by season’s end was getting great reviews with the Jags.
January 7th, 2010 at 11:06 am
Yes the Rams were never blown out last year.
They may try hard, but that roster is talentless. They’ve had the #2, #2, and now the #1 pick, the last 3 years.
Both #2 picks the last few years are doing worse than D-Mac and DHB. Ownership is trying to sell.
The Rams are a mess bro. That’s all I’m saying.
January 7th, 2010 at 11:07 am
Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
January 7th, 2010 at 11:00 am
Dakota Says:
January 7th, 2010 at 10:58 am
As a ND fan, I was not an advocate of Brady Quinn, so please do not think that the following statement is due to my allegence to ND:
I wish we could find a way to draft Jimmy Clausen…the kid is going to be a great QB.
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This is more hooey from the guy who wanted THAT BUST DMAC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Sad misplaced Michigan fan anger, that is what this is lol
January 7th, 2010 at 11:08 am
didnt STL get shutout by the 49ers?
January 7th, 2010 at 11:08 am
New Englandraider,
Toney Gaffney? yeah, I think he was on the pre-season roster for the Lakers…why, did we sign him or something?
January 7th, 2010 at 11:09 am
Tony…sorry
January 7th, 2010 at 11:10 am
Dakota,
Smith struggled through 5 games and was out with a bruised coconut. Heard Clayton on ESPN talk about worries it might be career-ending.
And he was the #2 pick, 5 slots ahead of DHB.
Yes, bigger flop.
January 7th, 2010 at 11:12 am
DAKOTA
ur correct. he was final cut. played at umass. outstanding defensive player. leaps out of building, blocks shots and can step out and hit the 3. he is 6-10 i think. anyway he used to date a friend of mine back when they were in college. he signed in israel. talked to my friend 2day. gaffney back here in mass because of foot injury. said lakers have promised him a contract for next season. can u say see u later josh powell
January 7th, 2010 at 11:15 am
The Rams are a mess…well then the Raiders are a fu(kin nightmare that you can’t wake up from.
They’re going in the right direction while Oakland takes one giant backwards leap after another.
That’s all I’m saying.
January 7th, 2010 at 11:16 am
“Smith also gave up a sack to Lawrence Jackson in that game, and another — to Dwight Freeney — six weeks later against Indianapolis.
But there were plenty of high spots. In Game 2, against Washington, a block by Smith sealed the edge on a 58-yard run by Jackson — his longest gain of the year. The play set up the Rams’ first touchdown of the season and gave them their first lead of the season.
In the first Arizona game, on Nov. 22, blocks by Smith and tight end Randy McMichael helped spring Jackson on a 48-yard run that set up a Rams field goal.
The gain put Jackson over 1,000 yards for a franchise-record fifth consecutive season.”
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Smith was getting it going…was DHB ever said to be getting it going? I don’t think so…
And according to his HC, they are moving forward as if Smith will be fine for next season.
I’d trade DHB for Smith in a heartbeat…at least Smith has a chance to be a good player…DHB needs a hand transplant.
January 7th, 2010 at 11:17 am
Dakota Says:
January 7th, 2010 at 11:07 am
Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
January 7th, 2010 at 11:00 am
Dakota Says:
January 7th, 2010 at 10:58 am
As a ND fan, I was not an advocate of Brady Quinn, so please do not think that the following statement is due to my allegence to ND:
I wish we could find a way to draft Jimmy Clausen…the kid is going to be a great QB.
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This is more hooey from the guy who wanted THAT BUST DMAC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Sad misplaced Michigan fan anger, that is what this is lol
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LMAO. Misplaced? Didn’t we destroy Notre Dame this year with a last second touchdown pass?
January 7th, 2010 at 11:18 am
Why all the hoopla over Herrera.
Even he admits he’s a puppet.
Nothing he EVER says is his opinion. He is Al’s lapdog, nothing more.
Don’t shoot the messenger.
go after the source.
January 7th, 2010 at 11:18 am
Bigger flop…c’mon watchu smokin?
DHB is a bust,BOOK IT!
No hands,no smarts,no desire.
Straightline speed and that’s it,and that doesn’t mean sh*t in the NFL.
Crabtree passed DHBs season stats in ONE GAME!
Bigger flop my a$$.
January 7th, 2010 at 11:20 am
Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
January 7th, 2010 at 11:17 am
LMAO. Misplaced? Didn’t we destroy Notre Dame this year with a last second touchdown pass?
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Our gimmicky spread offense coach is better than yours!!!! neener neener neeeeeener
January 7th, 2010 at 11:20 am
Dakota Says:
January 7th, 2010 at 11:16 am
Smith was getting it going…was DHB ever said to be getting it going? I don’t think so…
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Well he did catch a TD in his last game he played in, lol. That should be about as good as “sealing the edge”.
And no compensation for one being the #2 pick vs. #7?
January 7th, 2010 at 11:21 am
ofl71
maybe i smoke too much hippie lettuce. i think we are going to get a lot better next season. between, murphy shaunessy, and mitchell this yrs draft, to go along with nnamdi, huff, seymour (will be franchised), scott, chaz, t branch. man we got some talent. we really do. you seen what we can to with decent qb play. chaz being hurt killed us. i think he and murphy could be one helluva tandem. with zmill, maybe dmac and bush. we will have some weapons man. unless shaunessy and murphy regress. which i doubt. murphy improved a lot as season went on. and as i said yesterday, combine his drops with all the jruss short hops.. dude maybe could’ve had 50+ receptions
January 7th, 2010 at 11:22 am
Post draft, trade DMAC for the rights to Clausen!
January 7th, 2010 at 11:22 am
hell, i’d trade dhb for whatever u could pull out of stephen jacksons dread locks
January 7th, 2010 at 11:24 am
OFL71,
Explain to me what the Rams have going in the right direction, besides what you have “seen”?
Not trying to be a dyk, but their record has gotten worse the last 3 years. Not raving about the success of the Raiders, but it is a lot easier getting to 9 wins when you had 5 the year before, not 5 over the last three years.
January 7th, 2010 at 11:24 am
So with Nnamdi’s $16 million dollar franchise player-like payment in 2010, can Al afford to have the same monster franchise contract for Seymour and pay out for another top draft pick?
Better get that sale of the 10% of the franchise going here pretty soon.
January 7th, 2010 at 11:25 am
Dakota Says:
January 7th, 2010 at 11:20 am
Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
January 7th, 2010 at 11:17 am
LMAO. Misplaced? Didn’t we destroy Notre Dame this year with a last second touchdown pass?
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Our gimmicky spread offense coach is better than yours!!!! neener neener neeeeeener
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Oh yeah? Well, the pope is your Al Davis!
January 7th, 2010 at 11:26 am
the one thing u may…. may not be able to ? about dhb is his effort. poor hands, poor route running, i agree. we’ll see by preseason game 1 if dhb is getting better. did he have more than 2 catches in any preseason game????????? dont think he had more than 2 in reg seas game. and 4 or 5 outta 9 receptions he bobbled 1st
January 7th, 2010 at 11:27 am
Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
January 7th, 2010 at 11:25 am
Dakota Says:
January 7th, 2010 at 11:20 am
Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
January 7th, 2010 at 11:17 am
LMAO. Misplaced? Didn’t we destroy Notre Dame this year with a last second touchdown pass?
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Our gimmicky spread offense coach is better than yours!!!! neener neener neeeeeener
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Oh yeah? Well, the pope is your Al Davis!
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I’ll take that evil looking former hitler youth freak over Al Davis every time!
January 7th, 2010 at 11:27 am
I have way more faith in DHB’s future NFL career than Russell’s and maybe even Darren McFadden’s.
January 7th, 2010 at 11:28 am
I used to be upbeat about the next year. Now I dread next year
I bet most of you guys feel the same. Things don’t look good around Oakland.
January 7th, 2010 at 11:29 am
Only the Raiders, lol…ONLY THE RAIDERS.
Just when you think the bleeding has stopped, or at least had a gob of QuickStop shoved in to plug things up for a bit, the negative press seems to be as strong as ever.
JR misses meeting.
JR seen in Vegas.
Gannon being insulted by the organization when he offers his time…
AND THE SEASON WASN’T EVEN 3 DAYS OVER…
It’s almost as if the offseason rivals the regular season for entertainment..certainly for shock value.
What coach/assts will be fired?
What coach/assts will be hired?
WHO hires the assts?
Who do they “say” hired the assts?
Overhead ProjectorGate II ??
40000 draft predictions based on need.
9 based on “Weirdest scenario”, with 39,988 of the above truly expecting the pick to come from the “9″.
FA..where some “washed up” player will be offered a record contract, under the stipulation he “win one more for the gipper”..even though no one on the team knows what a gipper is…
And that’s just the beginnng
Yep, lol..only the Raiders.
January 7th, 2010 at 11:30 am
dakota
i think jwalker is gone…. kelly and warren will certainly restructure. hopefully jruss does as well if he’s not cut. isaiah eukanuba(lol) needs to go. too much $$ for a st. wonder if he even had 10 tackles this yr. (doubtful). is huff a rfa or not. whats up with the 5mil thing? and as far as draft, dont be surprised to see us trade out of top 10
January 7th, 2010 at 11:31 am
John Herrera is an @$$hat!! He and Al Davis are the reasons this team has been as bad as it is. Herrera said Gannon “played the worst Super Bowl ever”? Um… John, maybe you should do your homework genius. Certainly he had a bad game, but then again he was missing his starting center, his head coach (Bill Callahan) was ENTIRELY overmatched and outcoached by the guy who built that Raider team and was then unceremoniously traded to the Bucs. Hey John, this isn’t golf, you retard (sorry, that’s an offense to all mentally challenged people out there who are far more competant than Herrera). In football you actually try to SCORE points. This team hasn’t done that. Bring Gannon in to assist Paul Hackett (who is great but clearly needs help). Get over the fact that you and your team suck (I say this with all the love I have for the Raiders and Raider Nation) and take the help from the best QB this team has had since Jim Plunkett. Or maybe you should go see what Marc Wilson is doing these days. I hear Jeff George still wants to play. Maybe Jeff Hostettler can take us to another Super Bowl… oh wait, he never did that for us either. Herrera, you are a TOOL!!!
January 7th, 2010 at 11:32 am
vegas raider Says:
January 7th, 2010 at 11:27 am
I have way more faith in DHB’s future NFL career than Russell’s and maybe even Darren McFadden’s.
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You should have listened to me back in August.
“First time in NFL history that the first three consecutive top ten picks of a team turned out to be total busts”
Would have saved you all the grief.
January 7th, 2010 at 11:33 am
Dakota Says:
January 7th, 2010 at 11:27 am
I’ll take that evil looking former hitler youth freak over Al Davis every time!
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You sure?
http://universalheretic.files.wordpress.com/2009/07/evil-pope.jpg
January 7th, 2010 at 11:33 am
Gannon rescinds offer to help JaMarcus
Posted by Michael David Smith on January 7, 2010 2:14 PM ET
After former Raiders quarterback Rich Gannon said that he’d love to help current Raiders quarterback JaMarcus Russell, Raiders senior executive John Herrera smacked the offer down by saying, “It’s Rich that needs the help.”
Today Gannon said on his Sirius radio show that he was surprised by the harsh reaction to a sincere offer of assistance, and that he won’t make such an offer again.
“You know, it’s amazing,” Gannon said, per David White of the San Francisco Chronicle. “You try just to reach out to somebody and say something, that maybe you can help a young guy, and you get criticized for it.”
Gannon said he simply viewed Russell as a quarterback who might benefit from talking to someone who’s been there before, but that he won’t try to interfere if he isn’t wanted.
“I just was really looking at a young guy that’s really struggled and just thought that I could reach out to help him out,” Gannon said. “I was just looking to figure out a way to go out there and share with them some of the things that helped me as a player and prepare and get myself ready not only for the season but for games each week. I’ve done it with Aaron Rodgers and I’ve done it with quarterbacks in Tampa and Minnesota. But, hey, trust me, I won’t make that call again.”
And so the quarterback who completed 67.6 percent of his passes for the Raiders in 2002 will not be offering any advice to the quarterback who completed 48.8 percent of his passes for the Raiders in 2009.
January 7th, 2010 at 11:34 am
I think DHB is going to get the help he needs to have a break out year, next year.
Murphy is going to be a beast for sure next year.
It takes some WRs more time to develop, look at Vernon Davis now. Do you recall how raw and non-explosive this guy was? Now look at him, killing DBs for a big dude.
January 7th, 2010 at 11:36 am
Yep, I am sure Bo:
http://media.photobucket.com/image/evil%20al%20davis/vivektnarain/aldavis.jpg
January 7th, 2010 at 11:36 am
EFFORT!
Something the Raiders are in short supply of.
STL has far less talent than Oakland but plays with much more effort.
And DHB IS a bust cause he was drafted higher than his potential will take him.
Jesus the guy couldn’t even excel at Maryland in a weak ACC,dropped passes,halfassed it alot,I’m not saying anything that wasn’t already known.
January 7th, 2010 at 11:36 am
vegas
hopefully dhb’s mom makes him work his azz off. dude took a beating from us fans. hopefully he murphy and chaz buddy up over the offseason. if his work ethic is as good as they say it is, he should improve a lot. he certainly cant be any worse, can he. maybe its the russell fast ball that he cant catch. ronald curry was a decent wr b4 jruss. dude couldn’t catch anything last year when he played with jr. i know dhb dropped a nice easy pass from grads… just wondering if there might be a comparison. from what i seen out of curry last year, it looked like his rookie season all over again when he just couldn’t catch the ball. jr or not jr. he caught kerrence collins throws ok. and had excellent hands. (remember td in dungver in snow) but could not catch jr period
January 7th, 2010 at 11:40 am
There is hope for DHB:
http://www.royalfree.nhs.uk/images%5Cface_reconstruction%5Carm_transplant_surgery.jpg
January 7th, 2010 at 11:41 am
lmfaooooooo. dakota
January 7th, 2010 at 11:42 am
AL JUST TEXTED ME WITH THIS
I am trading and drafting for O linemen, big ones.
No more cut blocking scheme.
DHB will go to the probowl next year.
I didnt about the skinny calves when I picked DMAC
Russell is Still a great QB.
Get over it
January 7th, 2010 at 11:42 am
DHB MIGHT turn out to be a descent WR but nowhere near what his draft spot dictates.
Murphy is already far better and Schillens is primed to be big time if healthy,but Bey is average at best.
#7 overall for an average receiver….yeah great pick.
January 7th, 2010 at 11:43 am
anyone think we should retain routt?????? dare i say the guy might be a pretty good cb. he kills us in the slot, but every time he played for nnamdi he nutted up. played for cj this past week, looked damn good. ( 1 reception on a 3rd down slant for 8 yrds) if he stays he needs to start. cant cover slot
January 7th, 2010 at 11:45 am
Job Growth predicted in tomorrows Labor Report
January 7th, 2010 at 11:46 am
KoolKell Says:
January 7th, 2010 at 11:45 am
Job Growth predicted in tomorrows Labor Report
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Yep, but just in the airport security sector.
January 7th, 2010 at 11:47 am
Plunk predicts a negative number for job growth
Hope & change, little buddy, hope & change
January 7th, 2010 at 11:47 am
CJ spends time in the offseason being mentored by Deion Sanders
I think Routt spends time in the offseason being mentored by guys like Michael Waddell, John Bowie & Jonathan Holland. Maybe even Duane Starks & Tyrone Poole!
we should have traded Routt to the Redskins last year for Fred Smoot. then they’d have toast hall on one side and toast routt on the other!
January 7th, 2010 at 11:47 am
hey kell. wassup brother?????
January 7th, 2010 at 11:49 am
DKnight007 Says:
January 6th, 2010 at 9:01 pm
# Raider guy Says:
January 6th, 2010 at 8:55 pm
Good idea to call John Herrera. (510) 864-5000
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Dknight007,
Thanks for the number I called and it was awesome.
Rich Gannon is bitter. The fact it after his injury he was shown the door. He rehabbed all year, but wasnt cleared by the raiders, to play the following year, he had to retire. It was not only the raiders not give him
a shot, but no other team was interested in the former mvp. He was old and rightfully finished. Im sure Gannon wanted to hang on, he was the ultimate competitor. Gannon probably blames the raiders for the horrible end to his career. He did play the worst super bowl in history, then the next year he is injured, boom career over. This must have left a terrible after taste in his mouth that he is still sucking on. who knows what happened between Davis and Gannon, once he was informed that his services would not be retained. Knowing how strong willed and bull headed both parties are, it couldnt have been pretty. This smells like gannon having a laugh at the raiders expense. In this way he is able to be a thorn in davis’s side. much the same warren sapp has an axe to grind because davis saw that he was finished. Even Tim brown has fallen victim to this behavior. Disgruntled former athletes, showing a real lack of class.
January 7th, 2010 at 11:49 am
Dakota Says:
January 7th, 2010 at 11:46 am
KoolKell Says:
January 7th, 2010 at 11:45 am
Job Growth predicted in tomorrows Labor Report
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Yep, but just in the airport security sector.
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And the redneck pawn industry.
January 7th, 2010 at 11:50 am
I don’t think DHB will ever live up to the expectation of being the #7 pick, but really that isn’t his fault, he wasn’t a top 10 prospect except in Al’s eyes.
I expect lots of improvement from DHB next year and I think he can be a guy who plays around 10 years or so. He is the perfect size and really fast, blocks well and seems to be a hard-worker. I’m not as down on him as the other two parts of our “triplets”.
Still would have never drafted him.
January 7th, 2010 at 11:50 am
Job Growth predicted in tomorrows Labor Report
Read em and weep boys. You America hatin republicans.
January 7th, 2010 at 11:50 am
Well put Mistic.
January 7th, 2010 at 11:50 am
raiderrockstar
u dont think routt’s play was 100% better when he was outside. i think cj gets mentored by the original ”TOAST” elvis patterson… remember him? lol. i think routt plays the outside better than cj. lets see how cj plays the slot. sanders covered slot with ravens. coach em up prime
January 7th, 2010 at 11:51 am
Connecticut Senator Christopher Dodd announces he will step down …
LOL
you 0bama worshippers must be devastated!
January 7th, 2010 at 11:52 am
When Paul Hackett worked in New York (Jets, 2001-2004) and Tampa (2005-2008) they drafted 3 QBs:
- Brooks Bollinger – 6th round 2003
- Bruce Gradkowski – 6th round 2006
- Josh Johnson – 5th round 2008
So those who think we are going to sign QB Chris Simms because he is Hackett guy (I read this in some post) you are wrong. Those 3 are the only 3 QBs drafted when Hackett was a QBs coach at NY and Tampa.
So maybe we will take a small, mobile, and future NFL backup in the later rounds this year too.
January 7th, 2010 at 11:53 am
New Englander
How’s the weather? You wearing your fur lined jock strap?
January 7th, 2010 at 11:53 am
Trade DMAC for an America hatin Republican!
January 7th, 2010 at 11:53 am
Waving the flag of job growth tomorrow is like praising the Raiders for increasing their win total from 2 to 4 to 5.
Way to go guys!!!
January 7th, 2010 at 11:53 am
Everyone should call John Herrera. (510) 864-5000
Tell him you are cancelling your season tickets.
January 7th, 2010 at 11:55 am
Good idea to call John Herrera. (510) 864-5000
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somebody needs to get “the intern” Southwick on the phone. find out whats really going on.
does Danny boy have a realistic shot at competing with the scrubs at QB in 2010?
thats probably why Rich Gannon is banned from the facility. he’d turn Danny Southwick into the next Dan Marino!
January 7th, 2010 at 11:55 am
DHB???
http://cgi.ebay.com/Football-Passing-Machine-Training-Aid-Portable_W0QQitemZ190353168133QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item2c51eed705
Buy one.
Hell, buy two, in case the first one breaks.
At least 500 balls a day…minimum.
If you still can’t catch a freaking ball in August..time for a new line of work.
January 7th, 2010 at 11:55 am
dhb was projected by many to be a mid to late 1st round pick. most had him as either 3rd or 4th best wr. behind craptree, maclin, and harvin. although most had dhb rated better than harvin. y i don’t know. mike mayock said a week b4 the draft that dhb would be the pick. then 2 mins b4 the pick said they will take dhb. sure enough
January 7th, 2010 at 11:55 am
I think Routt spends time in the offseason being mentored by guys like Michael Waddell, John Bowie & Jonathan Holland. Maybe even Duane Starks & Tyrone Poole!
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Tyrone Poole and Duane Starks are both former first round picks with 3 Super Bowl wins combined. I think he REALLY can learn a think or two with those 2 guys.
January 7th, 2010 at 11:55 am
Of course it’s not his fault he was drafted too high.
The point was about all the bad draft picks and how many other players SHOULD HAVE BEEN TAKEN in recent years and that’s why this team is taking monumental steps backwards.
The point also was that STL is not making these poor personnel moves and therefor are moving in the right direction………is this thing on…..?
January 7th, 2010 at 11:55 am
# 4evaRaider Says:
January 7th, 2010 at 7:52 am
Robbins was shot 3 times by detectives and LIVED….Like I’ve said B4,Robbins was the BOMB and a DOMINATING CENTER….hate looking back but if Robbins plays in S/B we win,NO DOUBT.As Lincoln Kennedy said,we would tell the defense what play it was,Try And Stop Us!
We haven’t been dominating on offense since we had a dominating CENTER,imo
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100% accurate assessment. Adam Tru, Robbin’s replacement was terrible. He alone was the major reason we lost. He was far worse than what we have right now so that must tell you something.
January 7th, 2010 at 11:55 am
New Englander,
Just for you buddy:
The 80yr old GM produces this:
09′ 5-11
08′ 5-11
07′ 4-12
06′ 2-14
05′ 4-12
04′ 5-11
03′ 4-12
5 Head Coaches, 8 Starting QB’s.
January 7th, 2010 at 11:56 am
lmao kell
fur lined jock strap. good one. maybe jruss has one. weather is cold. about 27 degrees.
January 7th, 2010 at 11:57 am
The 80yr old GM produces this:
JaWalrus starting at QB
January 7th, 2010 at 11:57 am
later fellas. back to work!
January 7th, 2010 at 11:58 am
If you check every last 5 seasons Drafts you all will find out that 7 out of 10 players are considered or are borderline BUSTS!!!
Trade out of the TOP 10!!!!
January 7th, 2010 at 11:58 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
somebody needs to get “the intern” Southwick on the phone. find out whats really going on.
does Danny boy have a realistic shot at competing with the scrubs at QB in 2010?
thats probably why Rich Gannon is banned from the facility. he’d turn Danny Southwick into the next Dan Marino!
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Dan Marino Rich Gannon? A pair of ringless has-been hacks!
JP Losman plus Danny Southwick = RETURN TO GLORY!
Except Danny is a free agent, technically. Trade DMAC for the rights to Danny Southwick!
January 7th, 2010 at 11:59 am
OFL71 Says:
January 7th, 2010 at 11:55 am
Of course it’s not his fault he was drafted too high.
The point was about all the bad draft picks and how many other players SHOULD HAVE BEEN TAKEN in recent years and that’s why this team is taking monumental steps backwards.
The point also was that STL is not making these poor personnel moves and therefor are moving in the right direction………is this thing on…..?
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OK, my point was NEVER that they should have taken DHB or anything like that. I’ve been asking for guys to stop the run for years!! I think DHB was just as crappy as guys taking ahead of him this year, and I gave you a list of players.
You think Chris Long and Jason Smith were good draft picks the last two years at #2? Most people say those picks haven’t panned out, just like DHB. They passed on Matt Ryan and Mark Sanchez, and could draft a big flop at QB this year.
Want to bet who wins more games next year, Raiders or Rams? I will give you a game.
January 7th, 2010 at 12:01 pm
i think more than 8 qbs have started for us in that time.tui had 1 against jets. collins, brooks, walter, rick mirer,mcclown culpepper, jruss, frye, grads. when we had rob johnson for a little bit, did he ever start a game????????
January 7th, 2010 at 12:01 pm
“Trade out of the TOP 10!!!!”
I disagree,just do your homework better,draft for need not hype and if you have personnel people in place with high football IQs most high draft picks will turn out productive if not better.
January 7th, 2010 at 12:01 pm
JP Losman will be the starting QB at some point next season
January 7th, 2010 at 12:05 pm
Tim Tebow will have about as good a pro career as Troy Smith is having.
Some people are great college players but that doesn’t always mean they will be good pro’s.
I know for a fact that there will be 4 or 5 QB’s taken before him. He is a project player and will be lucky to go before the 4th round.
January 7th, 2010 at 12:05 pm
“Trade out of the TOP 10!!!!”
I disagree,just do your homework better,draft for need not hype and if you have personnel people in place with high football IQs most high draft picks will turn out productive if not better.
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Its easier to fail drafting in the Top 10
I was pretty sure WR Hakeem Nicks was a better player than DHB was, but WHO THE HELL WAS GOING TO DRAFT HIM 7TH OVERALL? NOBODY BECAUSE HE RAN A 4.50 INSTEAD OF A 4.20. Still, he is the better player.
Patrick Willis was GOD coming out, but HE WAS JUST A LB, so we didnt draft him.
January 7th, 2010 at 12:06 pm
they may have to trade out of top 10 for financial reasons. wouldn’t be bad to perhaps trade down a few spots and pick up a 3rd or 4th rnd pick
January 7th, 2010 at 12:07 pm
I’d take Long/Smith over our last two picks without hesitation!
Know why?Cause we needed those positions filled,not another RB/WR.
I don’t know about next season with Raiders vs Rams record wise but I’d bet my left nut STL makes the playoffs before Oakland.
January 7th, 2010 at 12:09 pm
Yikes….Don’t do it!!!!
They play each other next year, so we can pick this up than. I will remember.
January 7th, 2010 at 12:11 pm
Michael Oher was the “best prospect coming out since Orlando Pace”
He goes to the combine, and after that BS called Combine he was the 4th rated OT, so he was passed by 22 teams until Ravens got him 23. One year later he was voted number 2 for Offensive Rookie of the Year after Percy Harvin.
The Combine is a BS, and drafting in the top 10 doesnt mean drafting more talent, and also means the player will be considered a bust if he doesnt produce since Day 1.
TRADE OUT OF THE TOP 10!!!
January 7th, 2010 at 12:11 pm
I was born with ET.
Extra Testicles,so I’m good to go!!!
HA
January 7th, 2010 at 12:13 pm
damn ofl u got a lot of balls
January 7th, 2010 at 12:21 pm
Jim Harbaugh a “stealth” candidate for Bills, Raiders jobs
There has been some speculation that the Buffalo Bills (who don’t currently have a head coach) and the Oakland Raiders (who currently do) could be interested in hiring Stanford coach Jim Harbaugh.
A league source tells us that it’s more than speculation; the brother of Ravens coach John Harbaugh is, we’re told, a “stealth” candidate for both jobs.
Secrecy is critical (oops) because Jim Harbaugh currently is in the midst of recruiting season. If Harbaugh acknowledges that he’s a candidate for any job other than the one he has, his recruits will scatter like members of the Cardinal band in the end zone of a game that isn’t yet over.
For any college coach plotting a move, the news needs to come swiftly or not at all, and Harbaugh will have to use the “I’m not going to be the Alabama coach” routine until, you know, he ultimately becomes the Alabama coach.
(Then again, there’s a chance that Jim Harbaugh is already the Baltimore coach.)
In NFL coaching circles, neither the Bills job nor the Raiders job is regarded as incredibly attractive. But the reality is that there are only 32 jobs in NFL head-coaching circles, and Jim Harbaugh simply doesn’t strike us as a guy who is destined to spend his career as a college head coach. With his brother making it to the playoffs twice in his first two seasons with the Ravens, the interest in the Harbaugh who was a pretty good pro quarterback only will increase.
January 7th, 2010 at 12:32 pm
Harbaugh already “declined” last year saying he was staying in Stanford.
Why the hell would he come to Oakland this year when the exact same situation exists?
And is Jim Harbaugh really the answer for a team like The Raiders?
What exactly has Stanford accomplished during his tenure…?
Not much.
I don’t see Harbaugh turning it around in Oakland.
January 7th, 2010 at 12:35 pm
IMO the only thing that will make a difference(coaching wise)is a big name proven winner who can bring in his own staff and possibly call shots on who the GM/DFO will be.
That DOES NOT happen in Oakland so it will just be another gutless puppet doin what he’s told.
January 7th, 2010 at 12:39 pm
Kiffin doesn’t seem so bad after all.
At least he had the balls to stand up to Alice,even if he was kinda weaselly.
January 7th, 2010 at 1:39 pm
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