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It’s not Russell vs. Cable

By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Thursday, January 7th, 2010 at 12:58 pm in Oakland Raiders.

Best guess at this point is still that Tom Cable goes and JaMarcus Russell stays, but to assume the their fates are intertwined would be to ignore how Al Davis operates.

When Cable said at his season-ending press conference the Raiders could have been a playoff team had it not been for quarterback play, it was viewed in some quarters as a “him or me” moment.

How could the Raiders possibly have Cable back as the coach and Russell still on the roster?

The same way they had Lane Kiffin as head coach and Rob Ryan, a coach he did not want, as defensive coordinator.

The same way they kept Mike Lombardi around even though Art Shell considered him a “fox in the hen house,” knowing that Lombardi had pushed for Bobby Petrino as the head coach.

The same way Shell and Jerry Porter, the moody No. 2 receiver, were allowed into a season-long cold war that benefitted no one.

The same way Randy Hanson showed up back at work on Dec. 9 in the same building as the man against whom he had hoped to press charges for assault.

The same way Shell was put in the position of having Marcus Allen stifled on the bench while his teammates smoldered because Allen had waged a public war with Davis over money after rejecting a lucrative contract offer.

Although both Cable and Kiffin have espoused changing the culture, promoted locker room harmony and a “playing for each other” philosophy, Davis doesn’t believe in chemistry. He considers it nonsense, something players say about a team after it has won games.

“I don’t believe in chemistry” is right up there with “I don’t believe in chain of command” in Davis’ press conference statements which explain a lot about the organization.

You put the most talented group of players together as possible, don’t concern yourself with how they fit together, and it’s up to the coaches to get them ready to play, ready to win.

If there are disagreements or issues along the way, so be it. There will be conflict among men in any endeavor of high competition. That Cable and Randy Hanson had issues was no big deal. The problem from Davis’ perspective was that it got Cable in the news, along with the ESPN allegations of alleged domestic violence, and Davis would prefer his coaches to recede into the silver and black background.

Here Davis had given Cable the opportunity he’d always coveted, and Cable winds up a daily news story for reasons other than play on the field.

He’s also got issues with 17 touchdowns in 16 games and another 5-11 record.

Davis isn’t pleased with Russell, either. Otherwise, he would have never told Cable, “You’re the coach, you make the call,” knowing full well his handpicked quarterback would be sent to the bench.

Judging from the public backing of the Russell-in-Vegas brushfire and common sense, the quarterback isn’t going anywhere for the time being. Davis bided his time with Robert Gallery, Michael Huff and Nnamdi Asomugha, he’ll do the same for Russell unless there are issues with go far beyond work ethic and immaturity. He’s not worried about how keeping Russell will “lose the locker room” because there’s no locker room to be lost. It doesn’t exist.

But if Cable goes, Russell will be only a small part of the equation. Davis has never cared about chemistry before, and there’s no reason to think he’s changed his philosophy.

If Cable somehow makes it through, chances are Russell will be there as well, as well as a round of minicamp and training camp stories wondering how it could have possibly happened.

Harbaugh . . . again

In an annual rite of January, Profootballtalk.com became the outlet to throw out the first Harbaugh, reporting that Stanford coach Jim Harbaugh is a “stealth” candidate for the Raiders (and Bills) job.

Any chance he can bring Andrew Luck with him?

Also a familiar name in the rumor mill _ Montreal Alouettes coach and former Raiders coach Marc Trestman, per National Football Post.

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884 Responses to “It’s not Russell vs. Cable”

  1. Raider O Says:

    1st

  2. Dakota Says:

    Captain Comeback aint walkin through that door.

  3. RaiderDogg Says:

    Harbaugh would bring a power running game, this much I know

  4. Raider O Says:

    Fire Cable & hire Harbaugh!

  5. RaiderfanNY Says:

    What pro sports team has a thug like Herrera as its spokesman?

    It’s an embarrassment, man.

    Can’t someone who Big Al likes — Madden? Otto? Plunkett? — step in and tell Big Al that he has to retire?

    Someone? Anyone?

  6. Raider O Says:

    Just wanted to see what that was all about! Nothing special!

  7. vegas raider Says:

    Sounds like a recipe for failure

  8. RaiderDogg Says:

    VARaider Says:
    January 7th, 2010 at 12:58 pm
    I like the way the Raiders treat a former MVP, last QB to post winning seasons for the organization, take the team to playoff games, and to a Super Bowl. They tell him to pound sand. I always calculated that the Raiders, as an organization, fell apart the minute Gannon was injured in the Tampa Bay game. The Raiders had a winning record to start that season, and then disintigrated once Gannon was injured and Collins came in. Since the loss of Gannon, the Raiders have sucked. That is how important a QB is to a team!”

    I always tied it to that horrible Super Bowl showing, which included 5 interceptions by Rich Gannon. He played his worst game on the biggest day! The Raiders have yet to recover from that ass whooping they took in the Super Bowl.

  9. Dakota Says:

    Dakota Says:
    January 7th, 2010 at 1:01 pm

    Captain Comeback (Harbaugh)aint walkin through that door….

    ….but Captain Caaaaaave Man (Cable) might, lol.

  10. RaiderDogg Says:

    lmao @ Dakota

    at least Captain Cave Man always had 2 hotties following him around. Cable would just beat the crap out of them…

  11. KoolKell Says:

    Vegas Raider Says:
    January 7th, 2010 at 12:49 pm

    It has to go beyond kissing ass. He is like the face of all things Raider media and PR, and a complete tool.

    I don’t know if someone could do a worse job and get worse results than what Herrara does if they tried to.
    ===============================
    Vegas, I thought I explained that yesterday.

    Cronyism is partiality to long-standing friends, especially by appointing them to positions of authority, regardless of their qualifications. Hence, cronyism is contrary in practice and principle to meritocracy. Cronyism exists when the appointer and the beneficiary are in social contact; often, the appointer is inadequate to hold his or her own job or position of authority, and for this reason the appointer appoints individuals who will not try to weaken him or her, or express views contrary to those of the appointer.

  12. raiderzmaverick Says:

    Go Gannon! Shows what happens when you try to offer help to a dieing dog. I appreciate your willingness to jump back into the snakepit. Even despite your being attacked before you offered again. You’re a better man than anyone who refused you.

  13. raiderzmaverick Says:

    Fire Herrera. He is the worst “PR” man in the universe.

  14. Dakota Says:

    ….and son (Herrera)

  15. Richochet Says:

    Al is about as codgity an old man as you’ll find.

    No one can tell him anything, because he feels everything he does is right.

    Ever see Otto in the booth with Al?
    Doesn’t even sit next to Al.
    Doesn’t even sit on the same row as Al.

    and seems to be zero communication going on..at least whenever the camera’s are panning up there.

    Plunkett? I doubt very seriously that Al ever takes the time out or cares to take the time out to speak to Plunkett.

    And Madden?
    The fact Madden offered his services to the league, and NOT Al should tell you something.
    The fact Madden is routinely seen at the Niner facilities, while only showing up in Alameda a couple of times should tell you something.
    The fact you’ve never heard, even once, of Madden being in Al’s booth…NOT EVEN ONCE..to watch a game with Al should tell you something.

    Everyone knows Al listens to no one..and no one even bothers to try and offer advice..just a waste of time.

  16. raiderzmaverick Says:

    “It’s Rich that needs the help,” Herrera said. “When he goes on a radio show offering Mr. Davis help, Tom Cable help, the Raiders help, maybe it’s Rich that needs the help.”

    YEAH HERRERA. THE RECORD SURE SHOWS IT LIKE GANNON NEEDS THE HELP.

  17. RaiderDogg Says:

    Ricochet

    I saw Madden at the Raiders/Ravens game last week, although he wasn’t in Al’s booth. Also I have seen Otto sitting right next to Al and his wife in his booth several times.

  18. bjbrown1968 Says:

    Raider Dogg, you’re right, Gannon played his worst game on the biggest stage ever. Still, he got us there. Don’t try to tell me that Bill Callahan got us there, because I blame Callahan for that loss. He was completely outcoached in that game, and every game after that once Gannon was gone. Gannon, Brown and Rice got that team to the Super Bowl.

  19. raiderzmaverick Says:

    I think Al got fed up with Gannon and Gruden getting the credit for “All his work”. So he has done away with them and used his “PR Man” to insult, criticize and do whatever he can to belittle them. The fact that this is how he treats them shows where his head is really at.

  20. raiderzmaverick Says:

    You know what – if I had that superbowl over again, I’d still want Gannon in there guiding the offense.

  21. RaiderDogg Says:

    bjbrown1968 Says:
    January 7th, 2010 at 1:11 pm
    Raider Dogg, you’re right, Gannon played his worst game on the biggest stage ever. Still, he got us there. Don’t try to tell me that Bill Callahan got us there, because I blame Callahan for that loss. He was completely outcoached in that game, and every game after that once Gannon was gone. Gannon, Brown and Rice got that team to the Super Bowl.”

    You are right. Callahan didn’t have the intelligence or foresight to change the offense one bit, the offense that Jon Gruden created. Hell he didn’t even change the terminology. Still Gannon made several bad decisions, it just didn’t help that Tampa knew just about every single play that was coming before it came.

  22. raiderzmaverick Says:

    How else would you describe our ineptness on offense after he’s left despite bringing Randy Moss etc.?

  23. bjbrown1968 Says:

    Raider Dogg. Yep. I’ll give you that. Gannon did make bad decisions, he still played a bad game and had to take responsibility for that. But he was behind the 8-ball from the start. I agree with RAiderzmaverick, though, I’d take Gannon over just about anybody else if we got to play that game again.

  24. 4evaRaider Says:

    Must not need that left nut OFL71 =)

  25. RaiderDogg Says:

    4eva

    You download that new Mule yet?

  26. The Big Banana Says:

    # RaiderfanNY Says:
    January 7th, 2010 at 1:02 pm

    What pro sports team has a thug like Herrera as its spokesman?

    It’s an embarrassment, man.

    Can’t someone who Big Al likes — Madden? Otto? Plunkett? — step in and tell Big Al that he has to retire?

    Someone? Anyone?
    ===================================================
    Interesting is, all those guys know what needs to happen. Will they say anything publicly? No way, Jose. Are they saying things privately? Maybe. No way to tell. Davis would still do things his own way even if they were in his ear, that much I assure you.

    I know somebody that had a luxury box to a game this year and they got to speak with Otto. You’d be amazed at his opinions. Especially on Russell. They were very candid. I was expecting him to tout the company line. Nope!

  27. Dakota Says:

    This is such great stuff, I just thought I would post it again…I can’t wait for the next Al Davis presser:

    Al Davis, after the cameras were off: “(Kiffin) conned me like he conned all you people”
    Posted by Tim Kawakami on September 30th, 2008 at 6:26 pm | Categorized as NFL, Raiders

    * Update: Yes, I did fix the typo in the headline, which was only up for many days. Sorry.

    There’s a reason why I don’t ask Al Davis questions at his formal news conferences–such as today’s all-timer: Because he’s always much better and more lucid in the informal give-and-take of the post-press conference gaggle.

    Today it happened again. He cracked jokes. He asked me if I was applying for a job with the Raiders (no!). He gave Annie K. a nod.

    He’s a beaut. That double-dip Al press conference was incredible. But you’ve heard most of it or seen it or have gotten astonished word of mouth from the TV or radio.

    This is what you couldn’t hear–but what the most determined Al-ologists crave: The relaxed Al, taking on all questions, just being Al, crazier than ever.

    –A partial transcript of the gaggle…

    -Q: Kiffin had that reputation at USC as a tough personality to like. Do you think you didn’t vet him well?

    -AL DAVIS: No, I think he conned me like he conned all you people.

    -Q: Why not fire Kiffin in training camp?
    -DAVIS: Because I still thought there was hope. I’ve got a young quarterback. I still thought there was hope that he could see the light. Where he really popped off and started, it was Rob Ryan after the Denver game.

    -Q: Who did Kiffin want to draft instead of JaMarcus?

    -DAVIS: There were several. Every day it was different, that’s the thing. He didn’t want Russell. At one time he wanted Brady Quinn. At one time Calvin Johnson. At one time to trade it.

    -Q: Why did you trade Moss if you knew he was good?

    -DAVIS: They didn’t want him.

    -Q: They?

    -DAVIS: Not the coaches. They were coming in brand new. That was a big thing on their minds.

    Plus, you know how many teams turned him down. That guy in Green Bay thought he couldn’t run any more. Even Denver, where they’ll take anybody, turned him down.

    But what’s his name knew he could run, he’s a friend of Belichick’s. Mike Lombardi. Mike sold what’s his name, Belichick, on the idea that he could run. They tampered with him. I remember Bob Kraft saying that he had to look him in the eye and all that. They went down and worked him out, he could run. He’s their team, of course, with the quarterback.

    -Q: Mike Lombardi was a loyal guy for years…

    -DAVIS: Mike Lombardi? Yes, he was all right.

    -Q: And he’s taking shots at you…

    -DAVIS: That’s part of life. You just live with those things. He was with me eight years. Mike Lombardi has been fired from every job he’s had. Every job. He can’t get a job. Last year he was fired from a job he was working for for nothing. He was fired from Denver. But he does have ability. He does have some ability.

    But he was bad to Shell. Not necessary. You can’t get that in an organization, somebody in the organization bad-mouthing the coach.

    -Q: Nobody can do that?

    -DAVIS: Well, you can do it a little bit, seriously. But it’s tough, you know. It just wasn’t right. Shell was… been here all his life. I just… would stick up for him, so both of them had to go.

    -Q: You’ve also got Lofton, Rathman, Knapp, Ryan… A lot of guys you passed over for Cable. What was the main reason you picked him and not those guys?

    -DAVIS: Because I think he can do a better job. With the team.

    -Q: With the organizational structure, is all you need is a new head coach to fix things?

    -DAVIS: No. No, I’ve got to one or two other things. I mentioned some other things, Jerry, that are coming up here. Possibly a work stoppage. Possible an uncapped year in 2010. We have to prepare for that.

    Stadium. There’s a lot going on. Trask is involved in a lot of that stuff, Amy Trask. There’s a lot going on in the business side of football today. We have the negotiations with the players, that was a blow that hurt me personally, because he was a close friend, Gene Upshaw.

    And I’m running into that quite a bit now, losing people. I lost Jack Faulkner the other day. I don’t know if any of you know him. He was with the Rams. I had to talk to him while he was on his deathbed. I guess there’s no one left but me. Maybe I’m the only one left who can talk to these guys.

    -Q: Do you think this organization have a need for any more football people?

    -DAVIS: Yes, I do. There’s one guy I’m looking at now.

    -Q: A senior executive?

    -DAVIS: It would be an executive role, yeah.

    -Q: Would you wait until the off-season before making the move?

    -DAVIS: Yeah, I’d wait ‘til this off-season. Yeah, I’ve talked to the person, pretty much. It’d be unique. He’s local.

    -Q: Can you give us a name?

    -DAVIS: Local.

    -Q: Your son Mark has been around a lot more recently. What aspect of the organization is he involved in?

    -DAVIS: He’s business and perhaps he’s doing some work on stadium. Business and stadium. He doesn’t want to get involved in football. He used to know all the players. He still does. They were his vintage—Cliff Branch and all those guys, Fred Biletnikoff, all those guys.

    He never understood how I could let someone go. He just doesn’t want to get into that part of it.

    But he will own it some day. That is… if they let me go to my maker.

    -Q: You said to somebody that you wanted to win two more Super Bowls and then retire…

    -DAVIS: I didn’t say retire. I just want to win two more.

    -Q: But could you retire?

    -DAVIS: All joking aside, sure.

    -Q: It keeps coming up, so Al, how’s your health?

    -DAVIS: Other than the quadriceps and a little trouble with the walking, based on total balance, I’m fine. I’m healthy. You’re going to have to have me around for a while.

    I’m fine, really. I take all the tests four times a year. I get a check up on everything, echo and all those things. All the blood work, I do that four times a year.

    My mother, you know, she lived a long time, 103. I hope nothing happens. Because disease is the one thing, boy I tell you, it’s tough to lick. It’s tough to lick those goddamn diseases. I don’t know why they can’t.

    It bothers me they wont let us use… and it doesn’t mean that I’m Republican or Democrat… the stem-cell. I think it could help.

    -Q: I don’t think we’ve talked to you since last year when you sold a 20% stake to outside investors for the first time. Can you explain why you did that?

    -DAVIS: You should’ve called me. The fact (is that it wasfor)… estate planning.

    -Q: For Mark?

    -DAVIS: Well, obviously.

    In 2011, that rule comes back. You know it’s down to about 10% in 2010 or no estate tax and then I think in 2011 or 12, right in there, the estate comes back… you have to correct me, does it go back to about 48%?

    -Q: You’ve had other coaches who’ve gone through the Raiders to future success. You think that could happen with Kiffin?

    -DAVIS: Here’s what I would say: When Shanahan left me, he went to Denver. He was there for about four or five years as an assistant and they fired him for insubordination. Dan Reeves and he had a big battle. He went to the 49ers and he learned their style of football and when Dan Reeves failed in Denver, the first guy they had was Wade Phillips, I think… then he brought Shanahan back. And Shanahan had success. But Shanahan has an asterisk next to those two Super Bowls, because they were caught cheating.

    Now Norv Turner does a good job as a coordinator and he’s doing a good job as a head coach. Now let’s see what he does. He’s got a good team. Let’s see what he does. I might have been impetuous with him. But he was a good guy.

    If you remember with Norv, the first thing Norv did was let Tim Brown go. And I had to have a press conference up in Napa about Tim Brown leaving. And then about two games into the season, he forgot that Jerry Rice caught a pass in every game. He forgot to throw him the ball and he broke his streak. They threw him the ball, it went through his hands and then they didn’t come back to him. And so Jerry Rice said he wanted to be traded.

    I’m not making excuses here. And then the next year I got him Kerry and Randy and it was pretty good. But we couldn’t win so that thing didn’t go.

    Now who else was here?

    -Q: Gruden?

    -DAVIS: Jon. You’ve got to make your own decision. Jon was a good coach. But don’t forgot, I took Jon, no one else even knew who he was.

    Jon’s first two years, he was in tough. He won a big game that kept him alive. You know which game that was? Kansas City… that’s pretty good. You ought to be over here with us…

    The Tuck Game was the undoing of a lot of things.

    -Q: Was it accurate that you talked Javon Walker out of retirement during training camp?

    -DAVIS: I don’t know. See, that’s the problem. I’m pretty close to some of the players and I try to stay away from them. I stay away because I don’t want the head coach to be upset.

    Javon can play. He can play.

    -Q: Do the new minority partners have any option to buy in the future?

    -DAVIS: Everyone has an option to buy a limited. But not to buy the… no… No, I have options to buy a limited. Everyone has that option.

    No, as long as we’re alive, and then there’s the possibility of Trask. I think I want to do something for her. That’s Amy Trask. Other than Carol and Mark, no… other than maybe her.

    -Q: Are you looking for more investors?

    -DAVIS: No. I could have them in a minute. I want to see where we’re going to end up with the stadium.

    -Q: How is the stadium stuff going?

    -DAVIS: We’ll see. We’re working with the city of Oakland. We’re working.

    -Q: Could you stay at the Coliseum after the lease expires in 2010 the way it’s set up currently?

    -DAVIS: Of course we want a new one. I wouldn’t negotiate with you right now or with the media. I don’t know if the newspapers will be in existence (in 2010).

  28. vegas raider Says:

    I watched the Super Bowl like most everyone in here, completely smashed.

    I never watched the game again, until one day I got the DVD of the game I think 2 years ago and watched it again.

    Amazing how many chances to jump on them big at the beginning. Dropped INT’s, dropped passes. We dominated the first ten minutes of the game and still got creamed. The seams came off real quick.

  29. Silver-n-Smac Says:

    By Lowell.Cohn on January 7, 2010 11:59 AM:

    Is Rich Gannon screwy?

    He publicly offered to help the Raiders and JaMarcus Russell. Don’t get me wrong. The Raiders and Russell need lots of help. But not from Gannon.

    Gannon has been blasting the Raiders for years. That’s his right and he’s been correct in what he said. But for him to turn around and offer help is kind of dopey.

    They talk about being able to read a room. Gannon apparently can’t read any room. He should have known the Raiders would turn him down flat and love doing it. John Herrera got off a good one, he said it’s Gannon who needs the help. Maybe he’s right.

    We’ve long suspected Gannon is socially insensitive. This seals it.

    **************************************

    This pretty much summed up my thoughts exactly.

    I loved Rich G. as a Raider, but, pretty naive on his part. . . .when you know they hate you in that building.

    As for Lowell Cohn, I get a kick out of him. He seems to have more nuts than any journalist in the Bay Area.

    A bit goofy himself, but, goofy is better than boring.

  30. raiderzmaverick Says:

    That’s a great transcript Dakota.

  31. 4evaRaider Says:

    Dogg….I am NOT computer savvy.I dont know how =(

  32. RaiderDogg Says:

    All Russell does is get delivered the money these days. Yeah – Gannon needs help for offering to assist. He must be nutz to get involved with these guys upstairs.”

    Maybe that’s what Herrera really meant(sarcasm). Gannon would have to be crazy to want to work in the Raiders organization, he needs help.

  33. Dakota Says:

    So Mangina is safe in Cleveland…..

    Come on Al…fire Cable…you might be the only open job on the block so you might finally get a couple of bites from some real coaches!

  34. 4evaRaider Says:

    Plus, you know how many teams turned him down. That guy in Green Bay thought he couldn’t run any more. Even Denver, where they’ll take anybody, turned him down
    ***********************************

    LMAO….Its in Big Al,turn that knife lol

  35. raiderzmaverick Says:

    Suggestions Dakota? Who do you think would bite?

  36. 4evaRaider Says:

    Dakota….I hate to say it but the Browns are putting together a fine-looking O-line,imo.Young and Smart(Mack)

  37. raiderzmaverick Says:

    The Browns won their last 4 games. We haven’t been able to string together 2 game in a row since last year. ……Painful….

  38. 4evaRaider Says:

    Dogg….thats because Bradshaw didnt know there was a time of day lol

  39. raiderzmaverick Says:

    Any ideas for an Offensive Coordinator if Cable Stays?

  40. raiderzmaverick Says:

    Any realistic ideas for Head Coach if Cable Goes? Don’t say Gruden. Just look how they have treated Gruden and Gannon and you’ll see that it’s not even close to possible.

  41. RaiderDogg Says:

    4eva

    check out utorrent dot com (blog won’t let me type exact link so I spelled it out)

    then pop this file into the utorrent program and it will download the new Mule:

    isohunt.com/torrent_details/139146381/mule?tab=summary

  42. raiderzmaverick Says:

    Q: Do you think this organization have a need for any more football people?

    -DAVIS: Yes, I do. There’s one guy I’m looking at now.

    -Q: A senior executive?

    -DAVIS: It would be an executive role, yeah.

    -Q: Would you wait until the off-season before making the move?

    -DAVIS: Yeah, I’d wait ‘til this off-season. Yeah, I’ve talked to the person, pretty much. It’d be unique. He’s local.

    -Q: Can you give us a name?

    -DAVIS: Local.
    ———————————-
    I’m DEAD SERIOUS. I think this is Randy Hanson he’s looking at.

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  44. RaiderDogg Says:

    raiderzmaverick Says:
    January 7th, 2010 at 1:34 pm
    The Browns won their last 4 games. We haven’t been able to string together 2 game in a row since last year. ……Painful….”

    Actually the Browns won their last 4 games in a row. A feat the Raiders haven’t done since 2002.

  45. raiderzmaverick Says:

    Well….don’t give them too much credit. They still ended up with the same record as us I think.

  46. ohioraider Says:

    This organization goes beyond dysfunctional. It’s creepy and cynical beyond belief. Is that billboard still up?

  47. Dakota Says:

    raiderzmaverick Says:
    January 7th, 2010 at 1:32 pm
    Suggestions Dakota? Who do you think would bite?
    ________________________

    Well, no one in their right mind….but you just never know!

    Brian Billick is my bet at this point.

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  49. bjbrown1968 Says:

    Raiderzmaverick, you’re probably right. Which would mean Cable is gone.

  50. vegas raider Says:

    In Al’s presser last year, he mentioned the lockout in 2011.

    I think he isn’t going to hire a new coach in large part to not wanting to pay a staff in a lockout.

  51. RaiderDogg Says:

    Dakota Says:
    January 7th, 2010 at 1:40 pm
    raiderzmaverick Says:
    January 7th, 2010 at 1:32 pm
    Suggestions Dakota? Who do you think would bite?
    ________________________

    Well, no one in their right mind….but you just never know!

    Brian Billick is my bet at this point.”

    pft has been saying that Billick is already assembling a staff in anticipation of getting the Bills job.

  52. bjbrown1968 Says:

    Billick would be a coup. Truth is, nobody in their right mind would come coach the Raiders now. Everyone thinks Leach would come here. That guy may be dumb, but he ain’t stupid.

  53. Silver-n-Smac Says:

    If Cable stays, which I believe he should, the following names come to mind off the top of my head:

    1. Paul Hackett. That way, you’re not introducing a whole new damned scheme AGAIN. Conservative? Sure, but, so was Gruden. If that means running the ball 35 times per game until our passing game catches up, so be it. Marty Schott. played that type of ball all the way into the playoffs for years, so I have no problem with running that type of offense until we have a legit pass game.

    2. K. Gilbride or Jim Fassel. Both want to be head coaches, but, I think both can call plays. If they’d be willing, bring’em on.

    3. Mike Martz? I know, I know – sounds lame. But, other than the fact that the guy seems to dismiss the importance of the running game, he’s an aggressive play caller and could perhaps be a “teacher” for our QB’s and speed up the progress of our pass game.

    That’s all I can think of at the moment.

  54. KoolKell Says:

    Al usually waits until all the other Coaches are hired before he fires. Another wacky thing I don’t understand.

  55. Plunketthead Says:

    You do know that the article is over a year old

  56. Plunketthead Says:

    Thanks Dakota

    I think… then he brought Shanahan back. And Shanahan had success. But Shanahan has an asterisk next to those two Super Bowls, because they were caught cheating.

  57. 4evaRaider Says:

    You’re the BOMB Dogg!!!!

    Altho I must wait 4 Cohleenie 2 get home because I’m just not sure but she will D/L it 4me =)

  58. RaiderDogg Says:

    4eva

    once you get in the groove check out demonoid.com. That site has EVERYTHING!

  59. weaselbit Says:

    Plunkett, what do you mean Denver got caught cheating?

  60. weaselbit Says:

    I freaking hate Denver, by th way

  61. Florida Pete Says:

    raiderzmaverick Says:
    January 7th, 2010 at 1:38 pm
    Q: Do you think this organization have a need for any more football people?

    -DAVIS: Yes, I do. There’s one guy I’m looking at now.

    -Q: A senior executive?

    -DAVIS: It would be an executive role, yeah.

    -Q: Would you wait until the off-season before making the move?

    -DAVIS: Yeah, I’d wait ‘til this off-season. Yeah, I’ve talked to the person, pretty much. It’d be unique. He’s local.

    -Q: Can you give us a name?

    -DAVIS: Local.
    ———————————-
    I’m DEAD SERIOUS. I think this is Randy Hanson he’s looking at.

    ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::

    only because Herrera doesn’t have a son…

  62. RaiderDogg Says:

    sorry to jump the gun Plunk, didn’t mean to step on your toes…

  63. raiderzmaverick Says:

    # Silver-n-Smac Says:
    January 7th, 2010 at 1:43 pm

    If Cable stays, which I believe he should, the following names come to mind off the top of my head:

    1. Paul Hackett. That way, you’re not introducing a whole new damned scheme AGAIN. Conservative? Sure, but, so was Gruden.
    GRUDEN WAS MAYBE A BIT CONSERVATIVE IN THE PLAYCALLING (OR SO WE THOUGHT AT THE TIME) BUT HE WAS INTENSE ON THE SIDELINE. I DON’T SEE THAT IN HACKET. HE’S CONSIDERVATIVE THROUGH AND THROUGH.

    2. K. Gilbride or Jim Fassel. Both want to be head coaches, but, I think both can call plays. If they’d be willing, bring’em on.
    TRUE. BOTH WOULD COME. I DON’T KNOW IF I’M EXCITED ABOUT EITHER THOUGH. FASSELL IS PROBABLY THE BEST OPTION WE HAVE AND THAT’S SCAREY. HE GOT FIRED AS OFFENSIVE COORDINATOR LAST YEAR BEFORE GOING INTO THE USFL.

    3. Mike Martz? I know, I know – sounds lame. But, other than the fact that the guy seems to dismiss the importance of the running game, he’s an aggressive play caller and could perhaps be a “teacher” for our QB’s and speed up the progress of our pass game.
    DON’T KNOW. FOR SOME REASON I DON’T LIKE THE IDEA, BUT NOTHING I CAN PUT MY FINGER ON.

    That’s all I can think of at the moment.
    UNFORTUNATELY I THINK THAT’S ABOUT RIGHT.

  64. 4evaRaider Says:

    Thank You RaiderDogg my Brother!

  65. RaiderfanNY Says:

    Randy Hanson as the mysterious “local executive?” That’s brilliant! Makes perfect sense, from Big Al’s demented point of view.

    I can’t get enough of reading transcripts from Big Al’s press conferences. They guy has totally flipped his wig.

    Maybe he’ll make Malcolm Barnwell the GM? Or James Jett? Or Alvis Whitted?

    Or maybe some kid he meets at the mall who’s wearing a lot of Raiders gear and loves The Vertical Game?

  66. RaiderMight Says:

    Jerry, you forgot:

    “The same way Tommy Kelly and Shane Lechler are still on the same team after Kelly punched him.”

  67. raiderzmaverick Says:

    For some reason I still hate Denver and KC more than San Diego. Dont’ know why. Maybe because I always think San Diego’s useless…even though they beat us 13 friggin times in a row it won’t matter in the long run for them. They ain’t goin no where.

  68. raiderzmaverick Says:

    # RaiderMight Says:
    January 7th, 2010 at 1:57 pm

    Jerry, you forgot:

    “The same way Tommy Kelly and Shane Lechler are still on the same team after Kelly punched him.”
    ———–
    It was Terell Sands that punched Lechler not Tommy Kelly.

  69. raiderzmaverick Says:

    Sands is anotherone that was given a free ride for a while.

  70. raiderzmaverick Says:

    # RaiderfanNY Says:
    January 7th, 2010 at 1:56 pm

    Randy Hanson as the mysterious “local executive?” That’s brilliant! Makes perfect sense, from Big Al’s demented point of view.

    I can’t get enough of reading transcripts from Big Al’s press conferences. They guy has totally flipped his wig.

    Maybe he’ll make Malcolm Barnwell the GM? Or James Jett? Or Alvis Whitted?

    Or maybe some kid he meets at the mall who’s wearing a lot of Raiders gear and loves The Vertical Game?
    ————————————-
    Yeah, any schmuck who knows his Raiders “Tradition” (meaning their long-lost history) and can quote off plays from years ago can get promoted FAST under Davis’s watch.

  71. RaiderDogg Says:

    4eva

    no prob my friend. And if you ever have any questions, don’t hesitate to ask…

  72. r8eray Says:

    RaiderDogg, what do you have to download to save movies?

  73. RaiderDogg Says:

    r8eray Says:
    January 7th, 2010 at 2:02 pm
    RaiderDogg, what do you have to download to save movies?”

    More specifically? Do u mean burning dvd’s?

  74. raiderzmaverick Says:

    The belief among many people in the building is that Hanson is on the payroll largely because he is loyal to Davis, who always has been a sucker for anyone professing their love for the Silver and Black.

    Read more: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/writers/jim_trotter/08/20/raiders/index.html#ixzz0bxzeHIQa
    Get a free NFL Team Jacket and Tee with SI Subscription

  75. Silver-n-Smac Says:

    Raidermaverick:

    I was listening to Lincoln Kennedy a couple of weeks ago on KNBR with Rod Brooks & Bob Fitzgerald.

    He said that during 2000-2002 when the Raiders were at their best, they literally only ran about 8 different offensive plays, over and over and over.

    The key was that they had great players to run those plays.

    The defense knew exactly what was gonna happen, and it didn’t make a damned bit of difference.

    That’s really my biggest reason for trying to keep some continuity going on this team.

    Keep the coaching staff in place. There is a nice core of young talent across the board and with more experience, they get better and more confident in their roles.

    This doesn’t happen when you keep firing and hiring coaches.

    Don’t you think it’s the smart (yet un-sexy) thing to do, to let these coaches grow with their players and form a tighter and tighter unit?

    More than anything else on the planet (even more than hiring a GM), this team needs to find stability in its QB position and suddenly this team is about 35% better by that one factor alone.

  76. Plunketthead Says:

    I lost you with the toe stepping comment.
    I thought it was current news at first.

  77. Silver-n-Smac Says:

    The nice core of young talent I was referring to was in the Players, not the Coaches.

  78. M Lonetree Says:

    Someday something other than the norm may occur with the Raider ship.
    A storm perhaps to fill the sails.
    ‘Til then it is just the monotony of the Doldrums allowing no movement to or fro. A listlessness mocked by the passage of days. Dulling the witness of any moment at all.

  79. Plunketthead Says:

    lol never mind my last comment to raiderdogg

  80. Dakota Says:

    For you Trestman fans:

    CFL coach’s name surfaces in connection with Raiders Aaron Wilson

    Print This Send This January 07, 2010, 03:25 PM EST .2 Comments .With Oakland Raiders coach Tom Cable’s fate still undetermined, contingency plans are being plotted if he’s fired after meeting with owner Al Davis next week.

    According to a league source, one strong potential candidate to fill what’s regarded as a pending vacancy is Montreal Alouettes coach Marc Trestman.

    Trestman is considered to be a sharp, innnovative offensive coach who has a lot of NFL experience.

    He has previous stints as an assistant with the Raiders, San Francisco 49ers, Minnesota Vikings, Cleveland Browns. Tampa Bay Buccaneers, Detroit Lions, Arizona Cardinals

    When he was promoted from quarterbacks coach to offensive coordinator with the Raiders in 2002, Oakland led the NFL in total offense with 389.8 yards per game and passing offense with 279.7 yards.

    That Raiders team made it to the Super Bowl but lost to the Tampa Bay Buccaneers.

    Trestman coached the Alouettes to the Grey Cup in 2008, losing to the Calgary Stampeders.

    This time, Trestman led the Alouettes to a Grey Cup championship and he was signed through the 2012 season.

  81. r8eray Says:

    RaiderDogg, It asks for a member to give an invitation code??

  82. RaiderDogg Says:

    Plunketthead Says:
    January 7th, 2010 at 2:05 pm
    I lost you with the toe stepping comment.
    I thought it was current news at first.”

    Someone asked you a specific question and I answered it for you without realizing that the question was aimed specifically at you. I need to pay better attention sometimes, I guess I was just eager to point out how invalid Denver’s 2 SB wins actually were.

  83. raiderzmaverick Says:

    Hanson also was ordered by Kiffin to take a full physical to make sure that he wasn’t suffering from any underlying issues.

    “Can you imagine that?” Hanson asked. “Look at me, I’m fine.”

    None of this sat well with managing general partner Al Davis, who was unaware of Kiffin’s decision to suspend Hanson, according to several people with knowledge of the matter.

    Davis hasn’t made any official comments on the situation. However, he said Thursday that he intends to speak with the media in the coming days. He did not specify what he’ll talk about.

    Kiffin’s job security no doubt will be the primary focus of the media’s inquiries. Bay Area News Group reported Sept. 14 that Davis is prepared to fire Kiffin at any point.

  84. Dakota Says:

    Guess if Trestman comes back we will be running just 8 plays right Silver n smac?

  85. Plunketthead Says:

    Weasel

    The donks were over the cap both years.

  86. raiderzmaverick Says:

    Hanson was even saying that he was expecting to get an “executive job” in an interview when the Kiffen thing exploded.

  87. 4evaRaider Says:

    wow just got back from demoniod.com….there is waaaay more world out there =)!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  88. RaiderDogg Says:

    r8eray Says:
    January 7th, 2010 at 2:07 pm
    RaiderDogg, It asks for a member to give an invitation code??”

    Crap, I guess they are full.

    Try isohunt.com. Not as reliable as demonoid but still a sh1tload of stuff. The key there is to read the user comments. Usually anything with positive feedback is legit. A lot of times if the file is bogus people will comment negatively letting people know in advance not to bother. Usually if it is a newer movie like Avatar it isn’t legit.

  89. exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:

    Silver-n-Smac Says:
    January 7th, 2010 at 2:04 pm
    Raidermaverick:

    I was listening to Lincoln Kennedy a couple of weeks ago on KNBR with Rod Brooks & Bob Fitzgerald.

    He said that during 2000-2002 when the Raiders were at their best, they literally only ran about 8 different offensive plays, over and over and over.

    The key was that they had great players to run those plays.
    ====================================
    Vince Lombardi method. You knew he was going to run the Vince Lombardi Power Sweep but he dared you to stop it.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ocV5bGHdYag

  90. r8eray Says:

    4eva, did you get a chance to download?

  91. Silver-n-Smac Says:

    Dakota:

    Not sure I get your point.

    I really don’t care if we run 8 plays or 88 plays.

    The coach is only as good as his team. Add about 5 pieces to this team and it’s a playoff team.

    And suddenly, the coach isn’t the problem.

  92. r8eray Says:

    Thanks Dogg! I’ll check it out!

  93. Plunketthead Says:

    ic

    I missed your first comment to him

  94. exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:

    Here’s the real sweep:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2v3Qgt0Fb8I&feature=related

  95. raiderzmaverick Says:

    Crap – 8 different offensive plays. Well, that doesn’t entirely make sense. How could Tampa suddenly know these “8 different plays” when everyone else in the league couldn’t figure it out?

  96. raiderzmaverick Says:

    I agree we’re pretty close to a play-off caliber team. You wouldn’t have heard that from me for the past 4-5 years.

    I think we get the O-Line fixed up, add a DT and MLB. Get some QB competition and bring in a Vet WR and we’re good.

  97. Dakota Says:

    raiderzmaverick Says:
    January 7th, 2010 at 2:15 pm
    I agree we’re pretty close to a play-off caliber team. You wouldn’t have heard that from me for the past 4-5 years.

    I think we get the O-Line fixed up, add a DT and MLB. Get some QB competition and bring in a Vet WR and we’re good.
    _________________

    Lol, that is what everyone said last year at this time too.

  98. RaiderDogg Says:

    raiderzmaverick Says:
    January 7th, 2010 at 2:14 pm
    Crap – 8 different offensive plays. Well, that doesn’t entirely make sense. How could Tampa suddenly know these “8 different plays” when everyone else in the league couldn’t figure it out?”

    Simple, it was Gruden’s offense that they were running in the Super Bowl, against GRUDEN! Callahan didn’t change a thing about Gru’s offense and he knew everything the Raiders were going to run, probably before Callahgan did.

    If the Raiders had faced any other team in that Super Bowl they probably would have won.

  99. raiderzmaverick Says:

    LOL Dakota. Well….then I would’ve been right then…

    We didn’t address any of that. Brought in no QB competition (actually really screwed over our QB competition we brougth in), no Vet WR help, no DT, no MLB and no real O-Line help.

    So….let’s hope this year they listen to me :P

  100. RaiderDogg Says:

    one more

    http://www.alivetorrents.com/

  101. raiderzmaverick Says:

    Yeah, but Raiderdogg….come on. If only 8 plays any Defensive Coordinator could figure out how to stop it.

  102. raiderzmaverick Says:

    It wouldn’t take Gruden to “know his own offense” if there were only 8 plays to know how to stop.

  103. Dakota Says:

    Dakota Says:
    January 7th, 2009 at 8:48 pm

    Interesting days in Raider land. I can’t imagine things getting worse, but losing Rathman and Schneider is going to hurt.

    Keeping Cable is going to hurt too.
    _____________________________

    Notice the date I said this…

  104. RaiderDogg Says:

    raiderzmaverick Says:
    January 7th, 2010 at 2:22 pm
    Yeah, but Raiderdogg….come on. If only 8 plays any Defensive Coordinator could figure out how to stop it.”

    The entire offense was based on different formation looks. They ran the same plays out of many different formations.

  105. RaiderDogg Says:

    Dakota

    you are a soothsayer

  106. mistic1 Says:

    Jerry,

    You nailed it. I agree with Davis, when teams win its all about the so called chemistry, winning heals all ills. Want proof? Our last super bowl run. Gannon was despised, rice was unapproachable, and so on. None of that matters, as long as people operate like men and maintain professionalism.

    Cable didn’t score enough points. Davis is also unhappy about the lack of production from his last three draft picks. cable failed to develop or even find creative ways to utilize their talents. Instead of putting together a game plan to help build confidence for the struggling youngsters, he fed them to the sharks, week after week even though they were clearly in over their heads.These are the primary reasons cable will be fired.

    Trestman is an offensive genius, and a qb guru! His teams score points in bunches from all over the field. We saw a more methodical version here in raider land, due to the overall lack of speed on the out side, Rice, Brown, and Porter. Gannon’s relatively weak arm also stiffled his schemes abilty to strech the field vertically.I am sure he can find creative ways to get our young guys going. The ghost reverse motion is something that is a staple in trestmans’s scheme. Dhb and dmac running the ghost reverse motion, and sometimes taking the reverse would really scare defenses, and allow these guys to have some confidence. Also you add in russells abilty to throw deep into seams, and boot leg action. This is a slam dunk!

    I would also be ok with Harbaugh, he is a tough leader, and was a decent qb, he might be able to get through to no2, having played the position, and being moderately successful.

  107. KoolKell Says:

    Don’t you think it’s the smart (yet un-sexy) thing to do, to let these coaches grow with their players and form a tighter and tighter unit?
    ——————————
    Al Davis doesn’t believe in chemistry, remember?

  108. raiderzmaverick Says:

    Mistic 1 – I love your optimism. But….come on….Russells ability to throw deep into seams and boot leg action….slam dunk……

    I remember much more deep throws that were WAY OFF THE MARK from him than almost any QB. In fact, when watching the video that was supposed to prove how “strong Russell’s arm is” he heaved it out of bounds!

  109. raiderzmaverick Says:

    Dakota – yeah, I really thought it was SUPER STUPID to get rid of Schneider

  110. SouthernStyle Says:

    I’d be happy with Campbell in the first round. I highly doubt Davis drats Mallet tho.

    Oakland Raiders: Bruce Campbell, OT, Maryland
    There are only five possibilities here: Ryan Mallett, Taylor Mays, Carlos Dunlap, Bruce Campbell and Everson Griffen. That’s it. If you think otherwise, you really don’t realize how horrible of a drafter Al Davis is.

    I’ve had Mallett going here for a while, but he had a poor postseason winter scrimmage, and then used the plural noun “we” when talking about the 2010 Arkansas team. Mallett was asked whether or not that meant he was returning to the Razorbacks next year, but he said he was waiting until the NFL Draft Advisory Committee gave him a projected draft grade. Unless he hears something encouraging – and who knows what those idiots will say (seriously, Jake Locker isn’t a first-round pick?) – it looks like Mallett won’t be declaring.

    If Mallett declares, he’s a good bet to go here. The Raiders have all but given up on JaMarcus “Captain Skittles” Russell. They opted to go with Charlie Frye over him. After the final game, Russell skipped a team meeting and checked into the Palms hotel in Las Vegas. Russell would have gone to the Hilton, but there weren’t any vending machines that sold Skittles.

    Without Mallett, I think Al Davis will turn his attention to the offensive line. Despite being 6-7, 310, Campbell has a shot of running a 4.9. If Al is awake at the Combine and sees this, he may think Campbell is the second coming of Anthony Munoz. Sad, but true.

  111. KoolKell Says:

    I agree we’re pretty close to a play-off caliber team. You wouldn’t have heard that from me for the past 4-5 years.

    I think we get the O-Line fixed up, add a DT and MLB. Get some QB competition and bring in a Vet WR and we’re good.
    —————————–
    Oh, here we go, AGAIN.

  112. raiderzmaverick Says:

    KoolKell. Don’t say “Fire Al” in response to this question.

    But, what do you think we need (as far as personnel, and coaching) to win.

    We DID do it with Gruden. Maybe he didn’t last long because of it, but it can be done. So, how far off do you think we are?

  113. RaiderDogg Says:

    KoolKell

    Sometimes I wonder what your life would be like if the Raiders were a consistent playoff team or if Al Davis died. There would be a huge void in your life.

    On the other hand, at least you would be smiling while trying to figure out what else to talk about ;)

  114. SouthernStyle Says:

    The above mock draft was off of Walter football, but noticed this kid on a few other draft boards getting picked at 8.

    Bring in the lineman!

  115. Dakota Says:

    Dakota Says:
    January 8th, 2009 at 12:57 pm
    HayesDaze#37

    If Michael Bush starts, and McFadden touches the ball 15 times per game (from all over the field), the team will have a top-5 rushing attack.

    __________________________________________

    Big ifs there HayesDaze. So far Cable has shown no indication that anyone will start at HB other than Fargas.
    ::::::::::::::::::

    Dayyyum…right again…

  116. KoolKell Says:

    Dakota – yeah, I really thought it was SUPER STUPID to get rid of Schneider
    —————————-
    Schneider wanted out, the way I understand it. He came with Kiffin. He went back to USC, no?

  117. raiderzmaverick Says:

    Dakota – that’s why we need an Offensive Coordinator who calls the plays.

  118. RaiderDogg Says:

    KoolKell Says:
    January 7th, 2010 at 2:42 pm
    Dakota – yeah, I really thought it was SUPER STUPID to get rid of Schneider
    —————————-
    Schneider wanted out, the way I understand it. He came with Kiffin. He went back to USC, no?”

    you are correct sir

  119. 4evaRaider Says:

    I hate the doldrums

  120. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Profootballtalk.com reporting that Stanford coach Jim Harbaugh is a “stealth” candidate for the Raiders (and Bills) job.

    Montreal Alouettes coach and former Raiders coach Marc Trestman, per National Football Post.

    ***

    weren’t we also talking about Jim Harbaugh & Marc Trestman last year? I don’t see either of them coming here

    coaching for Stanford or Montreal looks better on a resume than coaching for the Oakland Raiders.

    Raider coach = lapdog

  121. KoolKell Says:

    RaiderDogg Says:
    January 7th, 2010 at 2:40 pm
    KoolKell

    Sometimes I wonder what your life would be like if the Raiders were a consistent playoff team or if Al Davis died. There would be a huge void in your life.
    —————————–
    You forget bud, I was going to Raider games before you were born, or knew anything about great Raider Winning Teams. I loved it.
    I talked plenty smack. Don’t be silly.

  122. ExRaiderFan Says:

    Everything that comes out of Raiders HQ sounds like an episode of the Sopranos. Herrera sounds like Paulie Walnuts & Al thinks He’s Tony Soprano. The Big difference of course is that the Sopranos WON Many Awards & had a Talented cast of Players & they made Tons of Money. The Raiders are a second rate cast of LOSERS & IF the team is making Money it’s because Al is betting Against them in Vegas. OH that’s right – Ja Mark Ass Punk Russell & a team “Official” are IN VEGAS NOW – Must Be A Coincidence or someone’s kneecaps are getting broken.

  123. 4evaRaider Says:

    R8eray…..no

  124. RaiderDogg Says:

    KoolKell Says:
    January 7th, 2010 at 2:45 pm
    RaiderDogg Says:
    January 7th, 2010 at 2:40 pm
    KoolKell

    Sometimes I wonder what your life would be like if the Raiders were a consistent playoff team or if Al Davis died. There would be a huge void in your life.
    —————————–
    You forget bud, I was going to Raider games before you were born, or knew anything about great Raider Winning Teams. I loved it.
    I talked plenty smack. Don’t be silly.”

    Don’t get it twisted, I wasn’t trying to give you crap. I just don’t know that other side of you that’s all. I have been a Raider fan since 1971, I think I am a bit older than you think I am. Maybe not as old as you though ;)

  125. KoolKell Says:

    I used to think Al Davis was God Almighty. I carried his picture in my day planner for years. My father and his friends whispered about him as if here were the most powerful man in the world.

    The Raiders in this state is absolutely shocking to people of my era. Not having it.

  126. Dakota Says:

    If anyone wonders why Bush is third string here it is…just stumbled across this wile looking at the archives:

    Dakota Says:
    January 18th, 2009 at 1:25 pm

    Are you dense? I said it was on ESPN First Take…on TV dipsheet. Ask Exla what Bush said when asked who he wanted as HC, he saw the same segment I did.

    I have DVR here is what was said:

    Talking head: Is there anyone you prefer coaching the team?

    Bush: Well I seen something about the giants offensive coordinator, know coming out for the job. Yes and I know in my mind I would like for…you know in his system he did three running backs with the giants, they rotated and uh you know if we keep the same guys we have last year I think that would be a good thing for us as well.

  127. RaiderDogg Says:

    Kell

    I was in high school when my ENTIRE family jumped ship and became 49er fans, leaving me the only Raider left in my family.

    Those fair weather folks jumped right on the Joe Montana Express and never looked back. When the 9ers were REALLY bad a few years ago, some of my family suddenly were “no longer into football. Oh The 9ers are terrible? I haven’t noticed because I don’t like football.”

    Now suddenly they are interested in football again and all I hear is “Singletary this and Crabtree that”. I am unable to be “disinterested” when my team is bad. I love my fams but they are all a bunch of bandwagoners!

  128. raiderzmaverick Says:

    It’s so stupid when there are vendettas which harm the team. Look at what happened with Shell benching Porter for no reason. Now with Walker benched and Bush getting no playing time. It goes back when Al was benching Marcus Allen because of disagreements. So much for team-chemestry. Get over it.

  129. RaiderDogg Says:

    KoolKell Says:
    January 7th, 2010 at 2:52 pm
    I used to think Al Davis was God Almighty. I carried his picture in my day planner for years. My father and his friends whispered about him as if here were the most powerful man in the world.

    The Raiders in this state is absolutely shocking to people of my era. Not having it.”

    That was before you knew the truth about Al. If you knew then what you know now…

  130. RaiderDogg Says:

    Dakota

    I remember that Bush moment like it was yesterday.

  131. Lucifer-666 Says:

    KoolKell is getting grumpy again they must not have changed his bedpan today at the asylum and his hemorrhoids are flaring up again!

    You stupid old senile wretch I know we are minutes from you posting our record over the last 7 years and then doing it again 100 times a day all off season like a little retarded kid that knows nothing else.

    They should take away your computer time at the institutions library.

  132. KoolKell Says:

    Nobody cares more about the Raiders than me. Nobody knows more about the Raiders than me.

    Except Al Davis, Jim Otto, Al Locasale (God bless) and a few others. Period! :-)

  133. RaiderDogg Says:

    Dakota

    So who was it that you were calling a dipsheet? That cracked me up…

  134. RaiderRockstar Says:

    who would keep Fargas, DHB, Satele, Carlisle, Green, Warren & Eugene in the starting lineup for 2010?

    Cable, Gilbride, Moss, Fassel, Trestman?

    just Cable. just one reason he needs to go imo

    if Al gave him the authority to bench JaMarcus, surely he’d let him bench some other scrubs making far less money …

  135. RaiderRockstar Says:

    5pm in Podunk. later gents!

  136. RaiderRetribution Says:

    Fire Herrera must be 1st & foremost; I just realized who he is.
    Follow me now
    Mr Al Davis was the Maverick of the NFL, intelligent , wist, and schrewed.
    Pride did rise up, but the desire to win was always paramount.
    Now he has looked not only old but, fragile, weak, & paranoid as he seems to be withering away;
    We have Herrera equating Mr. Rich Gannon with terrorists from 9/11 and other nonsense, telling Al what he wants to hear as the Raider Nation collapses upon itself;
    therefore Herrera must be Grima Wormtongue!

  137. Dakota Says:

    RaiderDogg Says:
    January 7th, 2010 at 2:58 pm
    Dakota

    So who was it that you were calling a dipsheet? That cracked me up…
    ______________

    Some nobody…probably one of the many trolls that gravitated towards me prior to registration.

  138. r8eray Says:

    I’m too lazy to look on the other blogs…who was talking about NBA earlier?

  139. RaiderDogg Says:

    Dakota

    You’ve got me digging through the archives, at least we are consistent. The more things change, the more they stay the same:

    Dakota Says:
    January 7th, 2009 at 8:44 pm
    Dogg,

    Yeah, the W’s are hanging in there…the always dangerous, never consistent W’s can surprise anyone, anytime.

    Celtics lost again…always nice.

  140. KoolKell Says:

    I was in the south end zone in 1968’s Heidi game. The Hero of that game Charlie Smith is a friend of mine. We used to cowboy together.

  141. Dakota Says:

    Dogg,

    Rummaging through the archives is great…super entertaining.

  142. raidertay Says:

    I know Herrera is often looked upon as the bad guy of the organization, but I think he is simply a devoted soldier following orders. I sat next to Herrera on a flt once. He was a really nice guy. Let me wear his Super Bowl ring.

  143. KoolKell Says:

    Now the trolls stalk me, for running their arses outta here.

    Right Lucifer 666. lmao.

  144. raiderforlife Says:

    I was watching the New Year celebration New Years eve night when they had Dick Clark on. He has been the host for 37 years. I thought how easy it would be to kick this guy to the curb, he can no longer talk clearly. Its hard to understand him, but he is a trooper and dam it its his show. This brings me to Mr. Davis Rich Gannon asked to help you and I know Rich has hit the organization a little hard and you are correct. There comes a time when you must realize when you need some help. Most of the Raider nation respect Gannon it would have been a smart idea to accept it. I don’t know who Mr. Davis listens to these days, he doesn’t seem the same short cited thinking. Dick Clark was on the same show with Brian Secrest a young hot shot talent because Mr. Clark realizes he needs some help, I wonder if Mr. Davis saw this. I have always admired Mr. Davis I have a old picture of him around my house and will always be a supporter but Mr. Davis you, we need some help. otnom@netscap.netBoston MA

  145. RaiderDogg Says:

    Dakota

    Check out this gem. I guess Oakglenn thought that Holmgren was headed to the 49ers. Looks like I was doing a little soothsaying of my own, be it almost 2 years prior to it actually happening!

    RaiderDogg Says:
    January 25th, 2008 at 3:34 pm
    Oakglenn -

    I agree with you wholehearterdly accept for one thing. Holmgren will not be the coach of the Whiners, he will be hired in a similar capacity to Bill Parcells in Miami. He will be Vice President and GM or something that involves full control, especially in the personnel department.

  146. raidertay Says:

    I think Russell is going to put in some serious work this offseason. There is still A LOT of money on that contract. Nobody (I dont care how rich) is going to turn their nose up at $7m. He may not like Football, but he definitely likes money. I think we will see a different Russell next year. Wait and see. Sounds like he is in Vegas getting a start on his off season.

    If he does his thing this offseason like I think he will then it will be a great competition between him and Gradowski.

  147. RaiderDogg Says:

    pure comedy:

    Dakota Says:
    January 25th, 2008 at 3:40 pm
    STATE OF CALIFORNIA IN CIRCUIT COURT
    COUNTY OF ALAMEDA JUDICIAL CIRCUIT

    RAIDER NATION,
    Plaintiff,
    v. ORDER FOR PSYCHIATRIC
    AL DAVIS EXAMINATION
    Defendant.

    A motion has been made by Raider Nation, the aggrieved party in this case, requesting the Defendant to submit to a psychiatric examination and the Defendant has entered a plea of not guilty and not guilty by reason of mental illness to the charges against him.

    It is, therefore,

    ORDERED, that the Defendant be committed to the Alameda County Behavioral Health Care Services at 2000 Embarcadero Cove, Suite 400, Oakland, CA 94606 for examination to determine the following:

    1. Whether the Defendant has the present ability to understand the nature and purpose of winning in the National Football League;

    2. Whether, at the time and place of the request for the resignation of Lane Kiffin as head coach of the Oakland Raiders, the Defendant was capable of knowing the wrongfulness of that act.

    IT IS FURTHER ORDERED that such determination be promptly communicated to the Raider Nation. It is further

    ORDERED that the Sheriff of this County transport and convey said Defendant, Al Davis, to the Alameda County Behavioral Health Care Services at 2000 Embarcadero Cove, Suite 400, Oakland, CA 94606 and deliver him into the custody of Satan, or his representative and that said Defendant remain in the custody of Satan until the examination is completed.

    Dated this 25th day of January, 2008.

    BY THE COURT:

    _______________________________________
    Circuit Court Judge

    ATTEST:
    ______________________________ Clerk of Court
    (SEAL)

  148. KoolKell Says:

    I remember that one. :-)

  149. RaiderDogg Says:

    RaiderDogg Says:
    January 25th, 2008 at 3:45 pm
    From the Law Firm of Dakota & McFadden

  150. RaiderDogg Says:

    It’s strange to think that so much has changed in my life since those posts 2 years ago.

    But clearly NOTHING has changed in Oakland.

  151. Lucifer-666 Says:

    “Charlie Smith is a friend of mine. We used to cowboy together”

    You mean you used to Broke Back Mountain together!

  152. raiderforlife Says:

    Remeber even Churchill was voted out of office

    Dakota Says:
    January 25th, 2008 at 3:40 pm
    STATE OF CALIFORNIA IN CIRCUIT COURT
    COUNTY OF ALAMEDA JUDICIAL CIRCUIT

    RAIDER NATION,
    Plaintiff,
    v. ORDER FOR PSYCHIATRIC
    AL DAVIS EXAMINATION
    Defendant.

    A motion has been made by Raider Nation, the aggrieved party in this case, requesting the Defendant to submit to a psychiatric examination and the Defendant has entered a plea of not guilty and not guilty by reason of mental illness to the charges against him.

    It is, therefore,

    ORDERED, that the Defendant be committed to the Alameda County Behavioral Health Care Services at 2000 Embarcadero Cove, Suite 400, Oakland, CA 94606 for examination to determine the following:

    1. Whether the Defendant has the present ability to understand the nature and purpose of winning in the National Football League;

    2. Whether, at the time and place of the request for the resignation of Lane Kiffin as head coach of the Oakland Raiders, the Defendant was capable of knowing the wrongfulness of that act.

    IT IS FURTHER ORDERED that such determination be promptly communicated to the Raider Nation. It is further

    ORDERED that the Sheriff of this County transport and convey said Defendant, Al Davis, to the Alameda County Behavioral Health Care Services at 2000 Embarcadero Cove, Suite 400, Oakland, CA 94606 and deliver him into the custody of Satan, or his representative and that said Defendant remain in the custody of Satan until the examination is completed.

    Dated this 25th day of January, 2008.

    BY THE COURT:

    _______________________________________
    Circuit Court Judge

    ATTEST:
    ______________________________ Clerk of Court
    (SEAL)

  153. Dakota Says:

    lol

  154. Dakota Says:

    Oakglenn Says:
    Godd one Dogg…here is another one whcih shows Oakglenn was coming close to his breaking point:

    January 28th, 2009 at 5:54 pm
    # KoolKell Says:
    January 28th, 2009 at 5:50 pm

    Well, there won’t be anybody for Al Davis to blame if things don’t work out this year.
    _______________________________________

    STFU ass wipe. You are an ass wipe. STFU.

  155. 909RaiderLifer Says:

    One could say that, Herrera has the intelligence of a sack of cement…

    But, that would be an insult to the sack of cement….

  156. Dakota Says:

    Sorry, meant this:

    Good one Dogg…here is another one which shows Oakglenn was coming close to his breaking point:

    Oakglenn Says:

    January 28th, 2009 at 5:54 pm
    # KoolKell Says:
    January 28th, 2009 at 5:50 pm

    Well, there won’t be anybody for Al Davis to blame if things don’t work out this year.
    _______________________________________

    STFU ass wipe. You are an ass wipe. STFU.

  157. KoolKell Says:

    ;-) Whatup Oak?

  158. Dakota Says:

    Dakota Says:
    January 29th, 2009 at 8:06 am

    Jhill Says:
    January 29th, 2009 at 7:54 am
    No way Bush is #3 on the depth chart. I’m not going to even entertain that RR. You’re trying to rile me up man, and I’m not falling for it!

    _________________________________________

    Sorry Jhill, if Tom Cable is our HC that is exactly what is going to happen (barring injury). More and more Fargas up the middle. 218 carries and 1 TD. Kiss the 2009 season goodbye bro.

  159. OFL71 Says:

    Both of those douchebags(Cable&JM)should be sh*tcanned!
    It should be the Raiders vs. Cable&Russell.

  160. Plunketthead Says:

    JaMalcolminthemiddle McCoy is in for a rough night

  161. Dakota Says:

    Told you so….

    Dakota Says:
    January 29th, 2009 at 8:51 am
    Bush declared on TV that he wanted Gilbride as HC and not Tom Cable. As long as Cable is HC Bush will remain #3 on the depth chart.

  162. Silver-n-Smac Says:

    Koolkell:

    Let me ask you something:

    Before I do, however, let me say that I’ve been a Raider fan since I was 7 years old (in 1977). Obviously, not as long as yourself, but, long enough to have seen some amazing football played by our team.

    You know I like Al Davis. I always have.

    With that being said, I can’t ignore some of the horribly insane decisions that he’s made over the years to the detriment of his own beloved franchise.

    All those things cannot be denied.

    And still. . . despite some of the lousy decisions made over the past 7 years, there is a lot of quality young talent on this team. If I did the following things over the off-season:

    1. Add run-stuffing DT.
    2. Add run-stuffing ML.
    3. Add 2 quality O-Linemen.
    4. Stabilize QB position with someone, anyone who can play at least decent football.

    Wouldn’t you at least agree that this team would be a playoff team at that point?

    If your belief is that Al Davis is totally incapable of adding the 4 or 5 players I mention above, then I guess there is no hope.

    All I’m saying is that despite the chaos, he’s managed to put together a pretty good roster that, believe it or not, isn’t THAT far away from finally turning it around.

    Yeah?. . . .No?

  163. Frank YoooooooLLL Says:

    Rich Gannon is a fruitcup…..what the hell do we need him for……..a lifetime backup till he came to oakland………

  164. Silver-n-Smac Says:

    Dakota:

    What’s with all the re-posts from your “Dakota’s greatest hits” archive?

    What’s the point?

    So now 2009 was lost because of Justin Fargas?

    Please dude – give me a break.

    If Michael Bush had started every game this year, what would the record have been then? 8-8, 9-7, 10-6?

    With all the shiotty QB play we got?

    Please!

  165. Dakota Says:

    Dakota Says:
    January 29th, 2009 at 11:13 am
    I thought Oher looked pretty good at the Senior Bowl…but his draft stock seems to be falling. Why?

    Anyone? Anyone?
    ++++++++

    Guess the Ravens thought the same thing….

  166. RaiderDogg Says:

    Silver~N~Smac

    Don’t shoot the soothsayer Dakota. He is just the deliverer of messages from the future, he does not shape it.

  167. Dakota Says:

    Lol, poor Rockstar…he didn’t know of the mega reach Al was about to drop on us….

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    January 29th, 2009 at 12:24 pm
    Jeremy Maclin would be a reach at #7 – like Ted Ginn Jr at #9 a few years ago. WAY too high

  168. mistic1 Says:

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    January 7th, 2010 at 2:45 pm
    Profootballtalk.com reporting that Stanford coach Jim Harbaugh is a “stealth” candidate for the Raiders (and Bills) job.

    Montreal Alouettes coach and former Raiders coach Marc Trestman, per National Football Post.

    ***

    weren’t we also talking about Jim Harbaugh & Marc Trestman last year? I don’t see either of them coming here

    coaching for Stanford or Montreal looks better on a resume than coaching for the Oakland Raiders.

    Raider coach = lapdog

    ……………………………………………….

    I dont recall these two being offered the job, could this be why they are not here? Davis’s involvement with day to day operations is over blown.

  169. r8eray Says:

    Don’http://justblogbaby.com/2010/01/06/just-sin-baby-jamarcus-russell-does-vegas/t know if anyone has post this funny chit!!

  170. Dakota Says:

    I knew if I dug long enough we could find something we agreed on!

    alisgod (F-Kitten Go Ole Miss) Says:
    January 29th, 2009 at 1:31 pm

    Dakota…I’d take Oher in a heart beat. He is very mobile for his size…plus I am jaded due to my SEC allegiace.

  171. r8eray Says:

    My bad!

    http://justblogbaby.com/2010/01/06/just-sin-baby-jamarcus-russell-does-vegas/

  172. Plunketthead Says:

    Dakota

    Draft day over the last few years would be entertaining as well.
    And thats not a dart about DMAC.

  173. mistic1 Says:

    Not being offered the job and rejecting an offer are 2 different things.

    Watched d tackle Dan williams play in the bowl, not impressed. he showed nothing other than he needs to be in better shape. Mt. cody is a better player, but not an every down player. Reminds me of chester mcglockton, talented, but too big will eventually eat himself out of the league. The last thing this team needs is another fat guy.

  174. exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:

    Justin Fargus had a banner year Dakota,

    491 Rush Yds 40.9 Yds/Game 3 TD

    Pro Bowl Stats LMFAO

  175. RaiderDogg Says:

    http://justblogbaby.com/2010/01/07/john-herrera-no-talent-ass-clown/

  176. Dakota Says:

    Can’t say I didn’t try!

    Dakota Says:
    February 3rd, 2009 at 2:35 pm
    Optimism? I’ll give it a shot…

    At least Cable is not Art Shell.

    There, how was that?

  177. RaiderDogg Says:

    Dakota Says:
    January 7th, 2010 at 3:50 pm
    Can’t say I didn’t try!

    Dakota Says:
    February 3rd, 2009 at 2:35 pm
    Optimism? I’ll give it a shot…

    At least Cable is not Art Shell.

    There, how was that?”

    He said while forcing down another glass of warm piss. “You guys sure this is champagne?”

  178. Dakota Says:

    Yikes…I thought we could win 6 games? What was I drinking that day?

    Dakota Says:
    February 3rd, 2009 at 3:29 pm
    M,

    As things stand right now I’d say 6-10 is the best we can expect. Would you classify that as a complete failure? I would.

  179. Raiders Grief Counselor Albert Bigelow Paine Says:

    Here is how it is going to play out: Davis tells Cable he can stay if Russel is his QB. Cable loses his mind (again) and punches Davis, sending the old man into a coma and to the hospital. John Herrera and some of his thug friends beat the hell out of Cable with Davis’ walker. Cable and Herrera both go to prison while Davis is no longer able to run the organization. Mark Davis turns over control of the team to John Madden who then hires John Gruden to coach the team. Gruden brings in Gannon to work with the QBs. (In the meantime) While Cable is assaulting his boss, Jamarcus Russel and Javon Walker are partying it up in Vegas. After a week of booze, diamonds, champaign, and debauchery, Walker is beat down and left for dead by Pacman Jones’ crew. Russel, in his grief, finds Jesus and decides to dedicate his life to God, becoming a minister. The 2010 Raiders, lead by J.P. Losman, make a remarkable turnaround and win the AFC West.

  180. Dakota Says:

    Dakota Says:
    February 3rd, 2009 at 4:01 pm
    Well it has been fun today! Just remember, when we are 6-10 next season and most of you are calling for Cable’s head on a platter, don’t say I didn’t warn you!

    Get ready for more bad Raider football. All of these hires are putrid. Al has fuked things up so much that we now have to scrape the bottom of the barrel to find anyone that wants to work here.

    And some of you are actually applauding him for it!

    lmfao

  181. Dakota Says:

    LOL

    NoMoreFargas Says:
    February 3rd, 2009 at 5:46 pm
    Wow cable great couldnt get anybody everyone in here talking like cables great im writting youre names down and you better stick by barney ruble. I cant wait my two worst fears coming true first cables back and mark my words justin fargas will be the no. 1 back and will proablly double his td production to 2. Congrats fargas you have passed dorsett, harvey williams, rickey dudley, and my all-time most hated Raider marc wilson youre no 1 dude. Ill hope for the best but am resolved to seeing fargas get 3yrds on 3&4 or not catch passes . Worst coach rb and hc tandem in the nfl and dont say trade fargas what would you get nothing!

  182. KoolKell Says:

    Silver N Smac

    Good question…….I don’t believe it’s a matter of adding pieces. I believe it’s the misuse of players.

    On top of that, the distracting priorities.

    The non-authority of coaches and lack of accountability.

  183. Dakota Says:

    Sorry, I am done now…just great running back through the memories of yesteryear!

  184. Raiders Grief Counselor Albert Bigelow Paine Says:

    Here’s hoping CBS assigns Rich Gannon to broadcast every Raider game next season.

  185. RaiderDogg Says:

    Time to change your name to Dakota The Soothsayer

  186. Dakota Says:

    not until mcFadden breaks out Dogg, lol…

  187. Raiders Grief Counselor Albert Bigelow Paine Says:

    In case you missed it the first time, Oakland Raiders 2010:

    Here is how it is going to play out: Davis tells Cable he can stay if Russel is his QB. Cable loses his mind (again) and punches Davis, sending the old man into a coma and to the hospital. John Herrera and some of his thug friends beat the hell out of Cable with Davis’ walker. Cable and Herrera both go to prison while Davis is no longer able to run the organization. Mark Davis turns over control of the team to John Madden who then hires John Gruden to coach the team. Gruden brings in Gannon to work with the QBs. (In the meantime) While Cable is assaulting his boss, Jamarcus Russel and Javon Walker are partying it up in Vegas. After a week of booze, diamonds, champaign, and debauchery, Walker is beat down and left for dead by Pacman Jones’ crew. Russel, in his grief, finds Jesus and decides to dedicate his life to God, becoming a minister. The 2010 Raiders, lead by J.P. Losman, make a remarkable turnaround and win the AFC West.

  188. Dakota Says:

    GOOOOOO TEXAS!!!!!!

    later

  189. RaiderDogg Says:

    Dakota Says:
    January 7th, 2010 at 4:06 pm
    not until mcFadden breaks out Dogg, lol…”

    Ok so you are not on par with Nostradamus just yet, but you are well on your way.

  190. CaptainBlack Says:

    I salute the Raiders for another PR debacle with regard to Rich Gannon. If Gannon was blowing smoke, so be it, but to publically criticize a popular QB only diminshes the organization. Rich won games for the Raiders and he deserves the organization’s respect. He earned it. Al uses people then shyts on them. A shame indeed.

  191. KoolKell Says:

    Agreed, whether Gannon was taking shots or not, you don’t want to be classless in public.

    Harder said than done ;-)

  192. Florida Pete Says:

    4evaRaider Says:
    January 7th, 2010 at 2:10 pm
    wow just got back from demoniod.com….there is waaaay more world out there =)!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::

    you think that’s great…

    try hermaphrodite !!!!

  193. snnyjcbs Says:

    Or maybe it is much simpler than you make out. Cable stays going with another starter keeping Russell on the team and giving him a chance to EARN his job back if he can. If not than you kick Russell to the curb.

    See all the Drama you like to stir up is nothing more than a bunch of bull. The only way you win in what you write is if Cable goes and Russell stays. That may cause some friction in the locker room.

    Last Mr. Davis is right all teams when winning have chemistry until the same group starts to drop games, than I guess that chemistry decided to take a vacation. What Davis means is winning cures all and that my friend is a fact.

  194. 909RaiderLifer Says:

    LO effin L….

    From a poster at pft.com:

    “Cable is not a super star coach, but he is slow enough to work for Al Davis, and crazy enough to be a Raider.”

  195. Richochet Says:

    Silver-n-Smac Says:
    January 7th, 2010 at 2:13 pm
    Dakota:

    Not sure I get your point.

    I really don’t care if we run 8 plays or 88 plays.

    The coach is only as good as his team. Add about 5 pieces to this team and it’s a playoff team.

    And suddenly, the coach isn’t the problem.=========
    =======================
    Wow.
    So that’s how it works.
    sign a couple of guys, and all of a sudden Cable has figured out how to call a game?
    Couple of new players, and now he grows a pair, and actually disciplines someone?
    Couple of players and all of those penalties just stop?
    couple of players and Cable now can figure out who the RB is, where after 4 months he still didn’t know?
    Couple of players and Cable figures out it’s not wise to hit women, or employees?

    You’re an idiot..plain and simple.
    Nothing less, possibly more.

  196. Richochet Says:

    snnyjcbs Says:
    January 7th, 2010 at 4:32 pm
    Or maybe it is much simpler than you make out. Cable stays going with another starter keeping Russell on the team and giving him a chance to EARN his job back if he can. If not than you kick Russell to the curb.

    See all the Drama you like to stir up is nothing more than a bunch of bull. The only way you win in what you write is if Cable goes and Russell stays. That may cause some friction in the locker room.

    Last Mr. Davis is right all teams when winning have chemistry until the same group starts to drop games, than I guess that chemistry decided to take a vacation. What Davis means is winning cures all and that my friend is a fact.
    ============================
    That is ridiculous.
    Asinine.
    When you win there is chemistry? Automatically? And when you lose, chemistry is gone?

    Gosh..you think that maybe teams with excellent chemistry, but borderline talent, can lose to far more talented teams, with no chemistry, but lots of studs?

    Cliches are cute and all, but that’s all they are.

    And no, winning doesn’t cure all…LOTS OF WINNING TEAMS have players that hate each others guts, even head coaches like Madden hating the owner..you know..Al the Bard..

    What you meant to say is “this cliche is also cute”..because it also means squat.
    The translation to “winning cures all ills” is “When you win, we tend to let things slide, that otherwise would be an issue”

  197. Silver-n-Smac Says:

    Richocrap:

    Yeah dumbass:

    1. When the Rams went from 4-12 to 12-4 & the Superbowl, it wasn’t due to a sudden complete team makeover or an act of God. They added a couple of pieces to an already-young & talented team. What happened then? They went from NO QB play to some damned good QB play and turned their team around.

    So yes Ass-Whipe – it IS that simple.

    2. Penalties? Are you stupid? Is this your first season of watching Raider football? You’re gonna blame penalties on Cable? The same way you blamed them on Gruden huh? Moron.

    3. The Running back who deserves the ball is the one who shows the ability to play consistently well without taking downs off (Bush & McFadden), without fumbling the damn ball at crucial points in games (Bush & McFadden) and not asking to come out of the game when you’re a wee bit tired (Bush & McFadden).

    So hell yeah, when your 2 most talented backs don’t consistently produce, you give the ball to the one dude who at least spills his guts out on every play, Dumbass.

    4. So now domestic issues are a part of what happens on the football field? Ass-Whipe.

    The idiot is staring at you in the mirror.

  198. CaptainBlack Says:

    Richochet, I would be proud if you called me a poodle.

  199. Silver-n-Smac Says:

    Richocrap:

    When you leave your house every morning, does your significant other remind you to put your “Warning: I’m stupid” sticker on your forehead?

  200. DKnight007 Says:

    If Cable isn’t kept….we need to pray Jim Harbaugh gets the job!

    He would bring leadership, pro experience, professionalism, accountability and discipline to Raider team.

    He would the Raiders answer to Mike Singletary in Niner land.

    Harbaugh has been there and down that in the NFL and was a no nonsense gritty QB who the QB for some good teams. He was known as CAPTAIN COMEBACK!

    Otherwise if Cable is kept, then the old dumb man will force Cable to hire an OC like Fassel and if Cable struggles or has a bad season who has problems with Davis then the old man will fire him and promote Fassel. If Harbaugh is not hired, and Cable is fired then expect Fassel to get the gig anyway.

    Thats the typical stupid way the old delusional stubborn egotistical man Al operates. Azz backwards! LOL

  201. M Lonetree Says:

    Lil’Rico, with paucity of wit, once again phases in his rotting and aphotic nature.

  202. Hererra1 Says:

    Nobody tells Mr Davis that he needs help

  203. bjbrown1968 Says:

    I actually wouldn’t mind having Harbaugh as a HC, but I just don’t think dumping Cable is the answer right now. The last thing we need is ANOTHER coaching change. If we change coaches we will have another 5-11 season, maybe even 4-12. At least with Cable I think we have a chance at a winning record. Cable may not get us to the Super Bowl, but I think he can get this team to respectability. Right now, I’ll take that.

  204. 4evaRaider Says:

    Silver-n-Smac Says:
    January 7th, 2010 at 4:56 pm
    Richocrap:

    Yeah dumbass:

    1. When the Rams went from 4-12 to 12-4 & the Superbowl, it wasn’t due to a sudden complete team makeover or an act of God. They added a couple of pieces to an already-young & talented team. What happened then? They went from NO QB play to some damned good QB play and turned their team around.

    So yes Ass-Whipe – it IS that simple.

    2. Penalties? Are you stupid? Is this your first season of watching Raider football? You’re gonna blame penalties on Cable? The same way you blamed them on Gruden huh? Moron.

    3. The Running back who deserves the ball is the one who shows the ability to play consistently well without taking downs off (Bush & McFadden), without fumbling the damn ball at crucial points in games (Bush & McFadden) and not asking to come out of the game when you’re a wee bit tired (Bush & McFadden).

    So hell yeah, when your 2 most talented backs don’t consistently produce, you give the ball to the one dude who at least spills his guts out on every play, Dumbass.

    4. So now domestic issues are a part of what happens on the football field? Ass-Whipe.

    The idiot is staring at you in the mirror
    **************************************************

    Yep

  205. Hererra1 Says:

    Unless Cable believes in Russell, he won’t get another chance. It may already be too late.

  206. DKnight007 Says:

    bjbrown1968 Says:
    January 7th, 2010 at 5:12 pm
    I actually wouldn’t mind having Harbaugh as a HC, but I just don’t think dumping Cable is the answer right now. The last thing we need is ANOTHER coaching change. If we change coaches we will have another 5-11 season, maybe even 4-12. At least with Cable I think we have a chance at a winning record. Cable may not get us to the Super Bowl, but I think he can get this team to respectability. Right now, I’ll take that

    ^^^^^^^^^^
    Cable should hire Trestman or Fassel as OC.

    The thing is….if Fassel is hired as OC….then Cable would have to watch his back.

  207. 4evaRaider Says:

    Hererra1 Says:
    January 7th, 2010 at 5:08 pm
    Nobody tells Mr Davis that he needs help
    **************************************************

    LMAO!!!! who is this guy?

  208. bjbrown1968 Says:

    DKnight007, I’d be stoked to have either one of those guys as OC. You’re probably right about having to watch his back though. If Cable starts Gradkowski next year Trestman would be a great fit. Not sure that his offense would work as well for Russell.

  209. Hererra1 Says:

    Nobody disrespects Mr Davis. Gannon, Brown, and the rest of them owe their careers to this man.

  210. bjbrown1968 Says:

    On another note, does anybody else find it interesting that 3 of the 4 QB’s that led the Raiders to Super Bowls were not known for their strong arms and ability to throw downfield? Gannon was a precision passer, neither Plunkett nor Stabler had the big arm. Only Lamonica did. Why does Al still think that the deep ball is the only way to go and get the Russells and Jeff Georges of the world?

  211. DKnight007 Says:

    Hererra1 Says:
    January 7th, 2010 at 5:19 pm
    Nobody disrespects Mr Davis. Gannon, Brown, and the rest of them owe their careers to this man.

    ^^^^^^^^^^
    Gannon wanted to help….MORON!

    You suck Hererra….your lucky you have a job in the NFL right now. Thats why you don’t want TRUE change within the organization to turn the ship around be become a respectable WINNING team again.

  212. Hererra1 Says:

    You must have patience. What is Mr Davis had given up on Nam, Huff or others. He is a maverick, get over it.

  213. Hererra1 Says:

    There are many eyes on this heavily visited site. This you must know. The Raiders family has shared much pain with the faithful Raider Nation during these difficult times.

  214. mistic1 Says:

    Chemistry is a joke. When teams lose people say they dont have chemistry. Here are some example of teams winning despite a lack of chemistry:

    1) Lakers shaq vs. kobe
    2) every single raider super bowl team, including 02 entire team vs. gannon
    3) 85 bears ditka vs. buddy ryan
    4) 86 giants parcells vs simms
    5) Ny yankees jeter vs. a rod, billy martin vs. team. vs reggie jackson vs. stienbrenner.
    6) 72-74 oakland a’s charlie finley vs. team.

    This lsit could go on forever.. Chemistry is iover rated in pro sports. You dont have to like thepeople you work with or work for, just do your job. Great players win games, and not chemistry. Coaches dont win games but they sure can lose them for you. see tom cable

  215. mistic1 Says:

    Trestmans offense is perfecst for russell. Slant patterns and seam routs, these are russells strengths.

  216. Kirk Says:

    Russells strengths are Vegas during the AVN awards and all-you-can-eat buffets.

  217. Hererra1 Says:

    There will be much change this off season. We will do what is needed to improve this team and restore greatness. Russell is a tough kid, but young and developing. His confidence is shaken. Be supportive and patient. It will pay off.

  218. mistic1 Says:

    This more examples of chemistry being overrated:

    7) Sf Niners Montana vs. Young
    8) Mayweather jr. vs mayweather senior vs. uncle rog
    10) chicago bulls pipen vs. rodman

  219. Raider O Says:

    I like the RT Drew Davis for Alabama. He is a 2nd day pick. #79

  220. aig Says:

    Dear Jerry,

    Nnamdi, Huff, and Gallery were never critized for their lack of commitment to the game. That’s the diff between them and Jawalrus.

  221. mistic1 Says:

    This cant be the real hererra. But he sure is funny, and he actually makes sense.

  222. JB Says:

    Here’s something for all you “players” out there. Rather than insulting all your fellow bloggers over issues that none of us are going to resolve, step up & help Tiger shut down them HO’s.

    http://www.atom.com/fun_games/tiger_woods_defense/

    Caution, this is terribly addictive. My personal best is 21 strokes.

  223. Raider O Says:

    Draft R McClain! He is a beast!

  224. Herrera1 Says:

    mistic1 Says:
    January 7th, 2010 at 6:10 pm
    This cant be the real hererra. But he sure is funny, and he actually makes sense.

    - – - – - -
    Not believing is part of the problem and weakening the nation.

  225. Raider O Says:

    Cody is a beast too. No player want it to touch him on that TD run. Up the middle untouched!! Just like the Raiders.

  226. Raider O Says:

    Cody is very good, but he is not an every down Player.

    Draft R McClain!!!!

    1st- ILB R McClain
    2nd- DE Carlos Dunlap (move Seymour inside)
    3rd- DT Mike Neal or Vince Oghobaase
    3rd- RT Sam Young or Kyle Calloway
    4th- CB Syd Thompson if available, or CB/KR Leroy Vann
    5th- RT Drew Davis

  227. KoolKell Says:

    The thing is Herrera, you continue to show no class. Kawakami, Gannon. Plus this:

    The 80yr old GM produces this:

    09′ 5-11
    08′ 5-11
    07′ 4-12
    06′ 2-14
    05′ 4-12
    04′ 5-11
    03′ 4-12

    5 Head Coaches, 8 Starting QB’s.

  228. Raider O Says:

    Draft McClain!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  229. mikeyd1963 Says:

    “His confidence is shaken”

    Yeah, all the way to Las Vegas.

  230. mikeyd1963 Says:

    “Be supportive and patient.”

    We have.

    “It will pay off.”

    It hasn’t.

  231. Carl Weathers Says:

    Has Davis ordered Hererra to piss on Alzado’s grave yet?

    This “professional” football organization is everything but.

  232. Carl Weathers Says:

    I love that a team doesn’t require or possess chemistry!

    Un-friggin-believable!!

    If it wasn’t for Davis signing paychecks I would swear he still thought players work a second job in the off season.

  233. Herrera1 Says:

    Gannon bit the hand that fed him. There are many untruths that are written about this organization, which is why it cannot trust the media and will continue to be private about its business. Mistakes have been made, this is not in question. Some decisions (players) take more time to show results than others. Coaches will only be maintained when they can execute the plan and lever the player strengths. Don’t be fooled. There are many factors contributing to the win/loss records. The main factor contributing to the last 7 years performance is Mr Davis’ attempt to give greater power to his coaches.

  234. Raider O Says:

    Hire me!!!!

    I would cut Cooper, Green, Pears, Morris, Both FBs, Fargas, Walker, Frye, TK, Warren, and EUK who is making 1.5 m to play STs.

    Sign QB Jason Campbell!!

    QB: Campbell, Bruce, and Jabustus. That may give us the best QB situation since we had Gannon.

  235. 504 Raider Says:

    Raider O,

    I hope McClain has H1N1 right now, cus dude looks like Sam Williams.

  236. 504 Raider Says:

    You can cure H1N1, you can’t cure Sam Williams.

  237. Carl Weathers Says:

    mistic1 Says:
    January 7th, 2010 at 5:35 pm
    Chemistry is a joke. When teams lose people say they dont have chemistry. Here are some example of teams winning despite a lack of chemistry:

    1) Lakers shaq vs. kobe
    2) every single raider super bowl team, including 02 entire team vs. gannon
    3) 85 bears ditka vs. buddy ryan
    4) 86 giants parcells vs simms
    5) Ny yankees jeter vs. a rod, billy martin vs. team. vs reggie jackson vs. stienbrenner.
    6) 72-74 oakland a’s charlie finley vs. team.

    This lsit could go on forever.. Chemistry is iover rated in pro sports. You dont have to like thepeople you work with or work for, just do your job. Great players win games, and not chemistry. Coaches dont win games but they sure can lose them for you. see tom cable

    *****************************************************

    Uhhh one problem with your theory… all those players/coaches are hall of fame material :D

  238. mistic1 Says:

    Raider O Says:
    January 7th, 2010 at 6:29 pm
    Cody is very good, but he is not an every down Player.

    Draft R McClain!!!!

    1st- ILB R McClain
    2nd- DE Carlos Dunlap (move Seymour inside)
    3rd- DT Mike Neal or Vince Oghobaase
    3rd- RT Sam Young or Kyle Calloway
    ……………………………………………….

    This is an excellent take. If our draft is anything like this, our team is instantly upgraded. Let Russell have a month off to shake the bad taste from 2010. Bring in trestman, bring russell back to alameda and lets make it happen.

  239. mistic1 Says:

    Herrera1 Says:
    January 7th, 2010 at 6:46 pm
    Gannon bit the hand that fed him. There are many untruths that are written about this organization, which is why it cannot trust the media and will continue to be private about its business. Mistakes have been made, this is not in question. Some decisions (players) take more time to show results than others. Coaches will only be maintained when they can execute the plan and lever the player strengths. Don’t be fooled. There are many factors contributing to the win/loss records. The main factor contributing to the last 7 years performance is Mr Davis’ attempt to give greater power to his coaches.
    ……………………………………………….

    This isnt the real herrera but this dude is on point. Relax nation the old man knows what he is doing.

  240. mistic1 Says:

    Carl Weathers Says:
    January 7th, 2010 at 6:50 pm
    mistic1 Says:
    January 7th, 2010 at 5:35 pm
    Chemistry is a joke. When teams lose people say they dont have chemistry. Here are some example of teams winning despite a lack of chemistry:

    1) Lakers shaq vs. kobe
    2) every single raider super bowl team, including 02 entire team vs. gannon
    3) 85 bears ditka vs. buddy ryan
    4) 86 giants parcells vs simms
    5) Ny yankees jeter vs. a rod, billy martin vs. team. vs reggie jackson vs. stienbrenner.
    6) 72-74 oakland a’s charlie finley vs. team.

    This lsit could go on forever.. Chemistry is iover rated in pro sports. You dont have to like thepeople you work with or work for, just do your job. Great players win games, and not chemistry. Coaches dont win games but they sure can lose them for you. see tom cable

    *****************************************************

    Uhhh one problem with your theory… all those players/coaches are hall of fame material
    ……………………………………………..
    cw,

    I only used these examples because of the high profile or sizzle value people easily recognize.

    By the way most championship teams have at least a couple of great players, including guys that may one day be in the hall. Also many hall of famers have been considered notoriously bad teammates. Sports is about stats, and the big stat wins vs. losses. Chemistry is a joke. One more local example.

    1) golden state warriors team vs. rick barry

  241. Carl Weathers Says:

    Well when you have 53 guys together there is no way all of them are going to get along.
    But on game day if they all play hard and are on the same page, all is forgiven and forgotten.
    Russell doesn’t fit anywhere into this equation.

  242. mistic1 Says:

    cw,

    yes and no. No russell did not endear himself to his teammates with his lack of prep, and conditioning.

    Yes he can get them all back by taking the steps mentioned above, and winning. Just ask vince young.

  243. Richochet Says:

    Silver-n-Smac Says:
    January 7th, 2010 at 4:56 pm
    Richocrap:

    Yeah dumbass:

    1. When the Rams went from 4-12 to 12-4 & the Superbowl, it wasn’t due to a sudden complete team makeover or an act of God. They added a couple of pieces to an already-young & talented team. What happened then? They went from NO QB play to some damned good QB play and turned their team around.

    So yes Ass-Whipe – it IS that simple.

    RICHOCHET; No, dumbass..that’s not how it happened. First off, you’re confused. YOU STATED THAT ADD A FEW PEOPLE AND CABLE NOW IS NOT THE PROBLEM.
    Now you’re talking about how adding some people and a team can turn around.
    Which is it? See…I CALLED OUT YOUR IDIOT TAKE ABOUT CABLE, YOU FOOL..
    HERE…READ IT AGAIN.

    Wow.
    So that’s how it works.
    sign a couple of guys, and all of a sudden Cable has figured out how to call a game?
    Couple of new players, and now he grows a pair, and actually disciplines someone?
    Couple of players and all of those penalties just stop?
    couple of players and Cable now can figure out who the RB is, where after 4 months he still didn’t know?
    Couple of players and Cable figures out it’s not wise to hit women, or employees?

    You’re an idiot..plain and simple.
    Nothing less, possibly more.
    ====================
    Cable SUCKS ON ALL THE THE ABOVE.
    Doesn’t matter how many people are added..CABLE SUCKS ON ALL OF THE ABOVE.
    If you didn’t have your head up your ass, I wouldn’t have to explain that to you…again…still..as usual.
    ########################################

    2. Penalties? Are you stupid? Is this your first season of watching Raider football? You’re gonna blame penalties on Cable? The same way you blamed them on Gruden huh? Moron.

    RICHOCHET;..damn..you’re stupid. Yeah, freaking fool, IT IS ON THE HEAD COACH WHEN A TEAM IS CLOSE TO LEADING THE LEAGUE IN PENALTIES. Who else do you blame, you retard?
    Well?? WHO ELSE??
    LMAO at your silly juvenile replies.
    ###################################

    3. The Running back who deserves the ball is the one who shows the ability to play consistently well without taking downs off (Bush & McFadden), without fumbling the damn ball at crucial points in games (Bush & McFadden) and not asking to come out of the game when you’re a wee bit tired (Bush & McFadden).

    So hell yeah, when your 2 most talented backs don’t consistently produce, you give the ball to the one dude who at least spills his guts out on every play, Dumbass.

    RICHOCHET; again..WHY PROVE YOU’RE NOT THE SHARPEST TACK IN THE DRAWER? Read it again..in 4 months…THE DAMN FOOL COULDN’T FIGURE OUT WHO THE RB WAS. You’re saying he SHOULD HAVE STILL BEEN CONFUSED, IN DEC, ON WHO SHOULD START?
    I’ll say it again..YOU’RE NOT A RAIDER FAN..you’re an image fan. A wannabee. By YOUR admission, you think wearing a silly pirate shirt makes you less of a dweeb.
    It doesn’t, lol..trust me on this.
    ###################################

    4. So now domestic issues are a part of what happens on the football field? Ass-Whipe.

    RICHOCHET: Yeah, fool..IT DOES. That’s why the NFL demands that you maintain off the field certain rules, you idiot. And as a head coach, SHOWING YOU DON’T HAVE THE DISCIPLINE to control yourself means you now are pizzing into the wind trying to tell the team to do the same. Of course, THEY DIDN’T. Team had no discipline. Team was NEVER DISCIPLINED..Cable NEVER..NOT ONCE..IN THE WHOLE SEASON get in one single players face…HELL, HE DIDN’T EVEN WALK UP AFTER PLAYERS WERE GETTING BACK TO BACK penalties..and say anything. He was a tree stump. No leadership abilities. No demanding anyone step it up.

    You’re an Al lover..nothing more. You back Cable, until Al fires his ass, then you’ll immediately waffle..like you always do.

    Again…you aren’t all that bright in the real world, are you?

  244. Richochet Says:

    Hererra1 Says:
    January 7th, 2010 at 5:19 pm
    Nobody disrespects Mr Davis. Gannon, Brown, and the rest of them owe their careers to this man.
    ============================
    They owe him NOTHING.
    EVERY PLAYER works his ass off..to get to the position of beating out THOUSANDS AND THOUSANDS of other college players, to play in the NFL.

    You think Montana owes Eddie D?
    Eddie D knows damn well he owes Montana.
    Eddie D knows damn well he’s glad the Niners picked Montana.
    Niners didn’t make Montana. Was because of Montana the Niners did what they did.

    Was because of the players that a team succeeds..not some owner who drafted them.

    You act like if it wasn’t for Al, those guys wouldn’t have been playing.

  245. Raider O Says:

    I’ll be happy with spikes. Trade both 3rds for another 2nd, and draft OT Bruce Campbell in the 1st, DE Dunlap & ILB Spikes in the 2nd, and CB or DT in the 4th.

    That works for me too!

  246. Herrera1 Says:

    Mr Davis decided some time ago to move in another direction strategically, to build a stronger foundation of younger players, to leave a long lasting legacy of success unlike any other time in Raiders history and something for the greatest fans in the world to be proud of. He has said that it will take time to see the results of this plan. This is his mission and commitment. He will not rest until this is done.

  247. Carl Weathers Says:

    VY proved himself his rookie year. What happened between then and this season is anybody’s guess but I’ve never heard a peep about him not being a leader or anything else detrimental to the team.

  248. mistic1 Says:

    for every disgruntled former raider that trashes our team, and Al davis, You can find another, that takes the opposite stance. The difference is the endorsments dont make national media. hating Davis and the raiders is what was, is , and always will be popular.

  249. mistic1 Says:

    Cw,

    believe it, when he was benched and went into the so called suicide watch he was called out by teammates, and coaches, for his lack of professionalism, preparation and maturity. When he was quoted as saying he would be the next black qb to win the super bowl the media killed him.They called him a sulking malcontent. Seems like years ago now. Winning cures all.

    Parcells vs.robert craft It worked until parcells couldnt win the big one.

  250. mistic1 Says:

    don’t think for 1 second that madden wasnt pissed when stabler showed for games late and hung over, but since they won he looked the other way.

    how about kobe vs. phil jackson

  251. mistic1 Says:

    phil jackson vs. dr. buss

  252. Carl Weathers Says:

    Well JR is not VY nor will he ever look as good as VY did this year. JR doesn’t have any kind of pocket awareness and he forces throws when he has no business even thinking of it.
    Everyone knows that the O-line isn’t good and most of all HE should know, like Gradkowski did, when your first two options aren;t there don’t look for another and don’t wait for a WR to get open.
    Tuck and go or chuck it away.
    I don’t think this is something he can learn. Name me one QB that had the same problems as JR and turned it around.

  253. mistic1 Says:

    86 mets, cowboys of the early 90’s. These teams were as dysfunctional as they come, yet it didnt matter one bit.

    we could play this game forever.

  254. mistic1 Says:

    Trent dilfer won the super bowl. Terry bradshw, troy aikman. Steve young. Both manning brothers.

    Give the kid some time, I think he got the message loud and clear. lets see if he acts on it. i think he will.

  255. Carl Weathers Says:

    No team wins with a struggling QB. Thats the bottom line.

  256. mistic1 Says:

    Gotta go, keep the faith bra, keep it silver and black.

  257. Carl Weathers Says:

    Unfortunately I think we’ll get the chance to see if he can turn it around… I highly doubt it ends well.
    maybe with the best O-lineman at every position in front of him, but that would salvage a lot of QB’s careers. IT just isn’t possible.

  258. Carl Weathers Says:

    At least Russell doesn’t act like Hererra.

    peace and love, peace and love…

  259. Herrera1 Says:

    Russell will be back, but not guaranteed to start.

  260. Richochet Says:

    Herrera1 Says:
    January 7th, 2010 at 6:46 pm
    Gannon bit the hand that fed him.

    RICHOCHET: he told the truth. So did Sapp. So did Simms. So did Brown. So did Rice. So did..hell..pretty much every exRaider player. What you mean to say is Al hates reading the truth.
    Ok..now you try it.
    ##########################
    Mistakes have been made, this is not in question.

    RICHOCHET: Understatement of the year.
    #############################################3
    Some decisions (players) take more time to show results than others.

    RICHOCHET: wow, Capt Obvious..tell us more.
    #########################################
    Coaches will only be maintained when they can execute the plan and lever the player strengths.

    RICHOCHET: wow, Capt Obvious..we didn’t know that. You mean..if they DON’T execute the plan..and get players to play..THEY GET FIRED? Lordy me..I didn’t know that. Please..tell us more.
    #########################################
    Don’t be fooled.

    RICHOCHET: Some fools here leave little choice in the matter. But thanks Mom..advice was just as pertinent now as it was when I was 5.
    ##########################################
    There are many factors contributing to the win/loss records.

    RICHOCHET: HALLELUJAH…I KNEW there had to be an explanation. I thought it was just one thing. TELL US MORE
    #####################################
    The main factor contributing to the last 7 years performance is Mr Davis’ attempt to give greater power to his coaches.

    RICHOCHET: oh man..you so had down the perfect grasp of the obvious..until now.
    I always thought the main contributing factor was Bruce Allen left, and Al, in his skinflint ways, decided to save on the GM salary, while doing it himself..failing oh so miserably.
    Of course, playing devil’s advocate, let’s say it was bad coach after bad coach after bad coach, after bad coach…WHO, pray tell, hired all of those BAD COACHES?

    Oh..yes..back to stating the obvious…AL DAVIS.

    Al? Instead of saying you suck, how about we just stick with you create a partial vacuum with your lips?

  261. Richochet Says:

    mistic1 Says:
    January 7th, 2010 at 7:35 pm
    Trent dilfer won the super bowl. Terry bradshw, troy aikman. Steve young. Both manning brothers.

    Give the kid some time, I think he got the message loud and clear. lets see if he acts on it. i think he will.
    =================================
    You THINK he got the message loud and clear?

    Was that the same message Kiffin game him?
    Hmm..guess he didn’t get that one.

    Would that be the same message that Kiffin AND Cable then repeated a year later??
    Dang..guess he missed that one as well.

    It’s been THREE YEARS..I have NO idea what Young, Manning X 2, Aikman etc have to do with JaBust.
    ALL OF THEM showed up and worked their ass off.
    ALL of them showed up in shape.
    ALL of them spent the offseason learning the playbook.
    ALL of them gave a damn…

    So…uh….what was the connection?

  262. Herrera1 Says:

    RICHOCHET, hard times don’t warrant disrespecting the person who was responsible for the very team that you “so called” support.

  263. Dude Says:

    I am as big a Raider fan as anyone on this site and I HATE Al Davis. As a matter of fact I wake up most mornings hoping to hear he has finally met his maker.

  264. Richochet Says:

    Herrera1 Says:
    January 7th, 2010 at 8:05 pm
    RICHOCHET, hard times don’t warrant disrespecting the person who was responsible for the very team that you “so called” support.
    ———————————-
    BULL****.

    Al Davis disrespects EVERYONE..bar none.
    He’s made it very clear that he views fans as not only insignificant, but, when asked how he felt about fans being upset that he was moving the team out of Oakland, his reply was, and I quote “I don’t care about what the fans think. It’s my team, and I’ll do what I want.”

    That same AHOLE also, when the County of Alameda wanted to throw a parade after the ‘02 SB, as a thank you to the team, Al REFUSED TO ALLOW IT, apparently thinking it’s payback to the county, stupid as that sounds, fully aware that is was a DAY FOR THE FANS TO SHOW APPRECIATION..still the ass wipe REFUSED TO ALLOW ANY RAIDER TO SHOW UP…

    Following that, a Fan Appreciation day was scheduled instead..5000+ fans showed up, and Al REFUSED TO ALLOW A SINGLE PERSON FROM THE RAIDERS TO GO..where Gannon, Rice, and others publicly apologized to the fans, and state how bush league it was.

    Al Davis is the biggest self centered slime in sports…NO ONE CARES LESS ABOUT THE WELFARE OF THEIR TEAM, OR IT’S FANS than Al Davis.

    And you’re a damn fool for pretending otherwise.

    However, you are welcome to continue to run your silly fairytales, and I’ll continue to call you out for being a fool, and a tool.

  265. gorilla Says:

    The Raiders have seven straight years of eleven losses each year. They have a losing percentage lower than my freezer’s temperature. They won’t get better until Al Davis moves on and picks a fight in Hell with the Devil.

  266. Richochet Says:

    Hell..and that’s not all Al did to the fans.

    SB ‘02?
    Ticket allotments given out.
    Fans notified.
    Ticket outlet reported how many tickets were sent out…THEN..someone did the math..and said WHOA..WAIT A MINUTE..the team gets X amount of tickets..THOUSANDS OF TICKETS ARE UNACCOUNTED FOR..where are they, Raiders?

    Reply? “Oh..uh…well..we took care of everyone in the office”

    Counter was EVEN IF YOU GAVE EVERYONE DOWN TO THE JANITOR 10 TICKETS EACH (supposed to give out max of 2, I believe) still missing over a thousand tickets..WHERE ARE THEY???

    Al had told the team to hold them back..to “entice” suite holders to buy suites..offering TICKETS THAT WERE SLATED TO BE GIVEN OUT TO THE FANS. the league intervened and the Raiders ALL OF A SUDDEN had over a thousand tickets available for ticket holders.

    EXCEPT NOW IT’S SUPER BOWL WEEK..team states “We’re going to call you..IF YOU DON’T ANSWER THE PHONE we go to the next person”..so a HELL OF A LOT OF FANS stayed home from work, not wanting to miss the call, in case they got selected.
    then..THERE WAS NO TIME TO MAIL OUT TICKETS..so fans had to go to Will Call that Friday and Saturday to pick up tickets for SUNDAY’S SUPER BOWL.

    now? AIRLINES ARE ALL BOOKED…hotels were ALL BOOKED..so all of these people had to drive down, many sleeping in their cars…MANY PICKING UP TICKETS ON SATURDAY, AND THEN DRIVING STRAIGHT ON DOWN TO SD for the game the next day..also sleeping in their cars.

    As it turned out, many fans weren’t able to get to Will Call (don’t recall how many) and never got to go to the game.

    That’s Al for ya..SCREWED OVER THOUSANDS OF FANS who were entitled to those tickets..so he could try an market some suites…

    ADVERTISE, YOU SKINFLINT.

  267. jhill Says:

    Herrera1 ????

    Could it be?

    I’d give the guy a lot of credit if he actaully showed up in here and talked to the fans.

  268. Herrera1 Says:

    gorilla Says:
    January 7th, 2010 at 8:27 pm
    The Raiders have seven straight years of eleven losses each year. They have a losing percentage lower than my freezer’s temperature. They won’t get better until Al Davis moves on and picks a fight in Hell with the Devil.
    —–
    So, what you’re saying is 8 years ago, when Mr Davis was 72 years old, he was young enough to make the right decisions? There is too much infighting within the nation.

    RICHOCET: You dont’ have to like Davis. He is controversial. What I’m saying is that he is the creator and caretaker of this organization. The same organization that built a team that you decided to follow (for whatever reason) and he should be respected for that. There is far more evidence of Mr Davis’ positive fan relations than negative, but you didn’t include any of those reports. At least have the courtesy to acknowledge the good with the bad, doing so will give your opinion some credibility.

  269. Dude Says:

    Herrera,

    What has Al Davis done in the last 8 years that tells you he HASNT lost his mind due to old age??

  270. Carl Weathers Says:

    jhill Says:
    January 7th, 2010 at 8:42 pm
    Herrera1 ????

    Could it be?

    I’d give the guy a lot of credit if he actaully showed up in here and talked to the fans.
    ***************************************************

    I imagine he’d spell his name right if it were ;)

    Go Longhorns!!! Underdogs baby!

  271. Carl Weathers Says:

    Oooooops, perhaps I spoke too soon, go Tide!! Favourites baby!

  272. Nnamdi21 Says:

    Might settle for a field goal…

  273. Carl Weathers Says:

    My mistake again, it is HeRRera, Jerry had it as HereRRa so I assumed he’d spelled it right… Come on game end I need to crash…

  274. jhill Says:

    You THINK he got the message loud and clear?

    ——————————————————-

    I think he MAY have, yes. First time he’s been the butt of ALL the jokes. Last year, it was the Kiffin-Davis drama, 4 play callers, yada yada. The fans loved him in the offseason coming off of 2 nice wins.

    This offseason?????

    ZERO fan love, and basically run out of town? I don’t think he ever saw that coming, lol, and I think he is not enjoying the heat.

    I think he did look better this past weekend. Make what you will of that. But no one can say that he didn’t look like he wanted to be out there.

  275. Nnamdi21 Says:

    Dude Says:
    January 7th, 2010 at 8:48 pm
    Herrera,

    What has Al Davis done in the last 8 years that tells you he HASNT lost his mind due to old age??

    ===========================

    Zach Miller, Trevor Scott, Tyvon Branch, Louis Murphy, Nnamdi, Lechler, Seabass, Mike Bush, Shaughnessy, Seymour, some decent additions, but for every one of those…

  276. Nnamdi21 Says:

    266. How long ago was that? Get the fug over it!

  277. Herrera1 Says:

    CW

    Spelling? Check your facts…
    http://www.raiders.com/team/administration.html

    Dude

    An example of Mr Davis’ character, he has taken care of Marquis Cooper’s family and is working with the league to secure long term disability coverage for retired players.

  278. Dude Says:

    Nmadi,

    Are you serious with that list?

    Mike Bush?? Trevor Scott?? Shaunnesy?? Janikowski??

    Thats not much of a testament my friend

  279. Dude Says:

    Herrera,

    Dont care about either of those things. How about the football team?

  280. jhill Says:

    The main factor contributing to the last 7 years performance is Mr Davis’ attempt to give greater power to his coaches.

    ——————————————————-

    Really?

    So Davis had nothing to do with…

    Fargas playing over Bush?

    The Oline we fielded that literally had ZERO OGs other than Carlisle?

    DHB starting to “clear out areas for other guys”?

    Running ONE reverse for DHB all year?

    Not finding a way to get McFadden matched up against a S or LB in the passing game?

  281. Herrera1 Says:

    Dude,

    I find it hard to believe that you would still be a fan if no good decisons have been made over the past several years. If you feel that way, I would suggest you find another team to “support”.

  282. Herrera1 Says:

    JHill

    Key word “main” factor. Certainly there are others and Mr Davis has admitted that errors have been made. He still workes tirelessly to improve the team.

  283. Dude Says:

    Herrera,

    Must be a ton of good things to list when you cant name 1. LOL.

    Take your suggestion and “shove it”.

  284. Herrera1 Says:

    1. Richard Seymore

  285. Dude Says:

    Like I said before too many times…Al Davis is a POS and is without a doubt the worst owner in pro sports.

  286. 504 Raider Says:

    Dude

    An example of Mr Davis’ character, he has taken care of Marquis Cooper’s family and is working with the league to secure long term disability coverage for retired players.

    ————————————————————————————————————–

    Also if I’m not mistaken when that 2nd rnd DT (Bender I think) died not long after the draft, obviously he didn’t earn money from his contract but Al did let the family keep the signing bonus.

  287. KoolKell Says:

    Herrera

    You are what you record says you are.

    Al Davis has had 6 winning seasons in the last 20 years.

  288. Herrera1 Says:

    Aside from some solid free agent signings, the current roster is very young. Look how many of the following have less than 7 years of league experience:

    12 Heyward-Bey, Darrius WR 6-2 210 22 0 Maryland
    56 Nixon, David LB 6-3 225 24 0 Brigham Young
    90 Bryant, Desmond DT 6-5 290 24 0 Harvard
    30 Boyd, Jerome S 6-2 225 23 0 Oregon
    83 Myers, Brandon TE 6-4 250 24 0 Iowa
    34 Mitchell, Mike SS 6-1 220 22 0 Ohio University
    77 Shaughnessy, Matt DE 6-5 270 23 0 Wisconsin
    18 Murphy, Louis WR 6-2 200 22 0 Florida
    45 Reece, Marcel RB 6-3 240 24 1 Washington
    29 Bush, Michael RB 6-1 245 25 2 Louisville
    97 Gunheim, Greyson DE 6-5 265 23 2 Washington
    20 McFadden, Darren RB 6-2 210 22 2 Arkansas
    91 Scott, Trevor DE 6-5 255 25 2 Buffalo
    23 Holland, Jonathan DB 6-1 195 24 2 Louisiana Tech
    81 Schilens, Chaz WR 6-4 225 24 2 San Diego State
    19 Watkins, Todd WR 6-2 190 26 2 BYU
    33 Branch, Tyvon SS 6-0 205 23 2 Connecticut
    59 Condo, Jon LS 6-3 250 28 3 Maryland
    2 Russell, JaMarcus QB 6-6 260 24 3 Louisiana State
    98 Richardson, Jay DE 6-6 280 25 3 Ohio State
    80 Miller, Zach TE 6-5 255 24 3 Arizona State
    75 Henderson, Mario T 6-7 300 25 3 Florida State
    22 Russell, Gary RB 5-11 215 23 3 Minnesota
    64 Satele, Samson C 6-3 300 25 3 Hawaii
    15 Higgins, Johnnie Lee WR 5-11 185 26 3 Texas-El Paso
    53 Howard, Thomas OLB 6-3 240 26 4 Texas-El Paso
    5 Gradkowski, Bruce QB 6-1 220 26 4 Toledo
    51 Morris, Chris C 6-4 305 26 4 Michigan State
    72 Pears, Erik T 6-8 305 27 4 Colorado State
    31 Eugene, Hiram FS 6-2 200 29 4 Louisiana Tech
    24 Huff, Michael FS 6-1 205 26 4 Texas
    3 Frye, Charlie QB 6-4 220 28 5 Akron
    52 Morrison, Kirk MLB 6-2 240 27 5 San Diego State
    26 Routt, Stanford CB 6-1 195 26 5 Houston
    69 Barnes, Khalif T 6-5 325 27 5 Washington
    50 Ekejiuba, Isaiah LB 6-4 240 28 5 Virginia
    7 Losman, J.P. QB 6-2 210 28 6 Tulane
    93 Kelly, Tommy DT 6-6 300 29 6 Mississippi State
    37 Johnson, Chris CB 6-1 200 30 6 Louisville
    54 Williams, Sam OLB 6-5 260 29 7 Fresno State
    94 Joseph, William DT 6-5 310 30 7 Miami (Fla.)
    21 Asomugha, Nnamdi CB 6-2 210 28 7 California
    25 Fargas, Justin RB 6-1 220 29 7 USC

  289. Dude Says:

    Herrera,

    Pray tell, what has Seymour done for this team??
    Trading a top 10 draft pick for a guy who doesnt want to be here and who is on the downside of his career is a GREAT move!!

  290. Raider O Says:

    Al has always been a players owner. He paid for Ottos medical bills, and he takes care of all Ex and current Raiders that need his help. I even heard he helped a few players who didn’t even play for the Raiders.

  291. jhill Says:

    He still workes tirelessly to improve the team.

    ——————————————————-

    I don’t doubt that.

    But there have been some GLARING mistakes that just seem as though they should not have happened. We can’t just say there were mistakes made, “get over it”.

    I mean, how does the organization allow the Nick Miller situation to go on ALL year?

    How do we end up with FBs returning kicks?

    If you want to tell me that is Al giving the coach more power, well please tell me when the PC is to announce to the fans the changes made to make sure BASIC stuff like that isn’t happening again?

    In other words, when can we expect the Harbaugh announcement?

  292. NorthernD Says:

    Only got a chance to see the first quarter of the game. Did any player stand out, or put on a show?
    The reason I ask is that I’m sure Al was watching, and probably has this year’s first round pick in mind now. I’m sure he chose Micheal Huff #1 based on the bowl game he had.

  293. KoolKell Says:

    When will Al Davis stand up and take responsibility for HIS decisions?

  294. Dude Says:

    Oh wow, this idiot just posted the roster and is actually trying to use it as a POSITIVE thing. LMFAO! Just what this blog needed another Kool Aid drinkin clown. Great. That roster is just chalk FULL of superstars!!

  295. Herrera1 Says:

    kk

    Which is precisely for the decision to go in another direction and through rebuilding.

  296. KoolKell Says:

    Herrera,

    You are what you record says you are.

    Al Davis has had 6 winning seasons in the last 20 years.

  297. KoolKell Says:

    Herrera

    The Raiders have been mediocre AT BEST for the last 20 years.

  298. Dude Says:

    Wheres the rebuilding? What part of the team has been rebuilt???

  299. NorthernD Says:

    Herrera1,
    That’s a nice list. But since the average player lasts only 3 1/2 – 4 years, the numbers of players with less than 7 years is irrelevant. Sorry.

  300. Herrera1 Says:

    Dude,

    Great potential on the roster.

  301. KoolKell Says:

    Herrera

    How does Al Davis justify keeping his job as General Manager setting NFL records for losing?

  302. Raider O Says:

    Draft McClain!!!

    We need one of the three Top true MLBs in this draft: McClain, Spikes, or Micah Johnson.

  303. Herrera1 Says:

    ND

    The list was only in response to the suggestion that Mr Davis has not made any sounds decisions over the past 7 years.

  304. Herrera1 Says:

    GM decision being talked about…

  305. Dude Says:

    Raider QBs= worst in NFL
    RBs= Average
    WRs= below avg
    OL= Among thw worst in NFL
    DL= way below avg
    LBs= below avg
    DBs= above avg
    STs= good
    Coaching= bad

    Wheres the rebuilding???

  306. KoolKell Says:

    Herrera

    The General Manager has been losing like hell since he turned 73. What makes you think at 80 he’ll improve?

  307. Raider O Says:

    I like the RT for Alabama. Drew Davis is projected as a 5th RD pick. He had a great bowl game and a solid year.

  308. Raider O Says:

    I would say our LBs are AVG!!

  309. Dude Says:

    This “Herrera” clown is obviously a put on. Some fan of another team in here f-in with us. Har har. Good one. LOL! Posting the roster as a positive point is what gave you away bro. Nice try though,

  310. KoolKell Says:

    Herrera

    When will Al Davis standup and take responsibility for HIS decisions?

  311. Dude Says:

    Thomas Howard is good
    Morrison is avg
    Ricky Brown is a fring player
    Sam Williams is garbage
    Scott is avg

    All that adds up to below avg.

  312. Herrera1 Says:

    Rebuilding taking longer than expected, but there are positive signs. The same signs that you speak of to Broncos, Chiefs or Chargers fans when they trash us. Seymour sees the potential.

  313. Dude Says:

    The gig is up Herrera. Move on. Youve been outed.

  314. NorthernD Says:

    By year 3, a player will reach his optimal performance.
    Statistically speaking, his 3rd year of production will be most similiar to his average annual results. The one most often repeated.

    Therefore, if a player hasn’t not produced by year three, the odds are very high that he will never produce.

    So it does not matter if a player has under seven years if he has never been productive. Chances are, he never will be.

    As the saying goes, ” If you’ve been trying for years, we’ve already heard your song…”

    The scariest part is that this was JaMarcus’ 3rd year.
    Yikes.

  315. Herrera1 Says:

    If year 3 is prime, then I would doubt they would have performed enough to qualify for the Hall of Fame.

  316. NorthernD Says:

    Dude Says:
    January 7th, 2010 at 9:36 pm
    The gig is up Herrera. Move on. Youve been outed.
    =====================================
    He’s posting from K.C.

  317. NorthernD Says:

    Herrera1 Says:
    January 7th, 2010 at 9:39 pm
    If year 3 is prime, then I would doubt they would have performed enough to qualify for the Hall of Fame.
    ===========================
    Check out the stats of HOF’ers. There are exceptions of course, but generally that’s the rule.

  318. KoolKell Says:

    All right Herrera. I see you’re a troll.

  319. Herrera1 Says:

    What Raiders HOFers reached their prime at 3 yrs?

  320. NorthernD Says:

    Herrera1 Says:
    January 7th, 2010 at 9:44 pm
    What Raiders HOFers reached their prime at 3 yrs?
    ==============================
    You like lists. Make one.

  321. KoolKell Says:

    Gene Upshaw

  322. Herrera1 Says:

    KK

    I’m not the enemy, just one with an unpopular and optimistic slant on the direction of the team.

  323. KoolKell Says:

    KK

    I’m not the enemy, just one with an unpopular and optimistic slant on the direction of the team.
    —————————–
    You can’t change reality until you face reality.

    You are the enemy of winning, when you embrace losing.

  324. VanHeathen Says:

    this Herrera1 Clown must be sippin’ from JR’s Jug O’ Robitussin!

  325. KoolKell Says:

    If Al Davis were in his right mind, there’d be hell to pay for this.

  326. Herrera1 Says:

    Nobody in the organization is embracing losing. Optimism is something else all together.

  327. KoolKell Says:

    Herrera1 Says:
    January 7th, 2010 at 9:54 pm

    Nobody in the organization is embracing losing. Optimism is something else all together.
    —————————
    Doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result is insane. Yet Al Davis’ Modus Operandi remains the same.

    So obviously there’s some comfort there.

  328. NorthernD Says:

    Herrera1,

    You present a good opportunity here.
    You raised a point.
    Raider players take longer to reach their optimal performance than players from others teams.
    Why is that?
    Because Al believes that Athleticism is more important than performance. His theory is that you take the fastest player and teach them how to play football. Therefore it will take longer for Raider’s to reach their peak.
    The problem is that the Raider’s can’t keep the same players on the roster for ten years like they could in the 60’s and 70’s. A player can now change teams more quickly than before. Better colleges and year round training also make the players develop faster than before.
    So, what worked back then, will not work now.
    (Please feel free to mention it to Al when you see him, as he is the last one to know)

  329. KoolKell Says:

    “He wants to win”

    Sure, people in hell want ice water.

  330. KoolKell Says:

    Northen D #328 exactly, exactly, exactly!!!!!

    Hence his record since 1989, when Free Agency started.

  331. DKnight007 Says:

    # Herrera1 Says:
    January 7th, 2010 at 9:54 pm

    Nobody in the organization is embracing losing. Optimism is something else all together.

    ^^^^^^^^^^^
    Ahh….the Season Ticket holders are finally saying enough it enough and F U to Al Davis, Trask and Hererra and the rest of the cronies who have ruined this franchise.

  332. Herrera1 Says:

    Mr Davis is in the process of doing some unprecidented things with the organization and many of you will be thankful. If you won’t keep the faith for the current state, at least try to keep that hope in mind.

  333. DKnight007 Says:

    # Herrera1 Says:
    January 7th, 2010 at 9:28 pm

    GM decision being talked about…

    ^^^^^^^^^^^
    Yeah, it better be MORE than just talked about.

    If you and the rest of the Al Davis cronies think this season was bad with the blackouts and loss of season tickets holders and the billboard from signs saying ti hire a REAL GM…..wait until you see how bad next year gets if the LOSING status quo remains next year.

    Even more blackouts and even more people not renewing or buying season tickets. hahaha

  334. KoolKell Says:

    Herrera

    Blackouts will continue until those unprecedented changes are evident.

  335. RaiderDogg Says:

    KoolKell Says:
    January 7th, 2010 at 9:51 pm
    You are the enemy of winning, when you embrace losing.
    —————————————
    That is one of the most profound and insightful things that I have ever seen you post.

    Nice, I will be using that one in the future…

  336. Herrera1 Says:

    Blackouts are expected given the circumstances. This is short term however, in my opinion.

  337. DKnight007 Says:

    # Herrera1 Says:
    January 7th, 2010 at 6:46 pm

    Gannon bit the hand that fed him. There are many untruths that are written about this organization, which is why it cannot trust the media and will continue to be private about its business. Mistakes have been made, this is not in question. Some decisions (players) take more time to show results than others. Coaches will only be maintained when they can execute the plan and lever the player strengths. Don’t be fooled. There are many factors contributing to the win/loss records. The main factor contributing to the last 7 years performance is Mr Davis’ attempt to give greater power to his coaches.

    ^^^^^^^^^^
    Lies…..lies…..and more lies…..

    LOL

  338. DKnight007 Says:

    # Herrera1 Says:
    January 7th, 2010 at 10:16 pm

    Blackouts are expected given the circumstances. This is short term however, in my opinion.

    ^^^^^^^^^^
    They sure will continue as long as LOSERS like you help ruin the team more than you already have! LOL

  339. RaiderDogg Says:

    Herrera

    How do you know Tim Kawkami smokes pot and who are his “pot smoking buddies”?

  340. DKnight007 Says:

    # Herrera1 Says:
    January 7th, 2010 at 10:07 pm

    Mr Davis is in the process of doing some unprecidented things with the organization and many of you will be thankful. If you won’t keep the faith for the current state, at least try to keep that hope in mind.

    ^^^^^^^^^^
    All talk until these “unprecedented” changes actually occur!

  341. RaiderDogg Says:

    or was it “smoke pot buddies”?

  342. DKnight007 Says:

    # Herrera1 Says:
    January 7th, 2010 at 10:16 pm

    Blackouts are expected given the circumstances. This is short term however, in my opinion.

    ^^^^^^^^^^
    Short term to you, Al Davis and the rest of cronies is another 7 years! LOL

  343. KoolKell Says:

    Herrera1 Says:
    January 7th, 2010 at 10:16 pm

    Blackouts are expected given the circumstances. This is short term however, in my opinion.
    ================================
    Blow this off too:

    The Raiders’ season average of 44,285, last in the league, is the franchise’s lowest since 1967.

    Read more:
    http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2010/01/04/SPSS1BD19U.DTL#ixzz0bg3M3aKP

  344. r8der4life0408 Says:

    Im going to tell you right now how I would draft. I would draft OT Bryan Bulaga out of Iowa in the first round and then in the second I would draft MLB out of Kentucky Micah Johnson. Johnson is a beast and has a nose for the ball and imagine this takes on a lead block. Remember this I guarantee these guys are going to be something big!

  345. Herrera1 Says:

    Who do you suggest run the team if not Mr Davis?

  346. RaiderDogg Says:

    The Raiders’ season average of 44,285, last in the league, is the franchise’s lowest since 1967.”

    That average number is much higher than I anticipated. I figured the high 30’s at best.

  347. KoolKell Says:

    Herrera1 Says:
    January 7th, 2010 at 10:22 pm

    Who do you suggest run the team if not Mr Davis?
    ——————————
    If only he would identify somebody. I’m just a fan.

  348. KoolKell Says:

    RaiderDogg Says:
    January 7th, 2010 at 10:22 pm

    The Raiders’ season average of 44,285, last in the league, is the franchise’s lowest since 1967.”

    That average number is much higher than I anticipated. I figured the high 30’s at best.
    ——————————-
    I take it, they’re using Raider figures.

  349. Richochet Says:

    Herrera1 Says:
    January 7th, 2010 at 8:43 pm

    RICHOCET: You dont’ have to like Davis. He is controversial. What I’m saying is that he is the creator and caretaker of this organization. The same organization that built a team that you decided to follow (for whatever reason) and he should be respected for that. There is far more evidence of Mr Davis’ positive fan relations than negative, but you didn’t include any of those reports. At least have the courtesy to acknowledge the good with the bad, doing so will give your opinion some credibility.
    ====================
    Bill Gates created Microsoft..but when my stock went down, you can believe I had something to say.
    Al Davis DIDN’T create the Raiders..he just created the mess that is the current Raiders, which is the worst team/organization in organized sports.
    TO HELL WITH ANCIENT HISTORY, you moron.
    Jerry Yang created Yahoo…like Al..he made mistake ater mistake. Shareholders voted his ass out.

    If the Raiders were a public company Al would have been out decades ago.
    You comprehend that, idiot?

    The “shareholders” perse, are the season ticket holders…AND THE BLACKOUTS SPEAK VOLUMES.

    Al’s lost it,fool.

    Read again on how he SCREWED OVER THE FANS BEFORE THE SB, AND TWICE IMMEDIATELY FOLLOWING IT.
    Obviously you had NOTHING to say regarding that..hell no.

    Save the “Lots of instances that he did good things with fans”..you lie.
    Last 10 years..NAME ONE.
    You can’t…so shut up, fool.

  350. NorthernD Says:

    Herrera1 Says:
    January 7th, 2010 at 10:22 pm
    Who do you suggest run the team if not Mr Davis?
    ======================================
    You could get a replacement for Al and increase seat sales.
    Have a draw where one lucky seat holder gets to make the selections at the next draft.
    Given the history of recent picks, I’m sure the average fan is capable of doing just as well, if not better.

    (and they get a free t-shirt as well)

  351. Richochet Says:

    KoolKell Says:
    January 7th, 2010 at 10:32 pm
    Herrera1 Says:
    January 7th, 2010 at 10:22 pm

    Who do you suggest run the team if not Mr Davis?
    ——————————
    If only he would identify somebody. I’m just a fan.
    ===========
    The owner ISN’T SUPPOSED TO RUN THE TEAM.
    Owners own.
    Coaches coach.
    GM’s run the team.

    Get a solid GM and BUTT THE HELL OUT, AL.

  352. Richochet Says:

    Wait.
    Flash back.
    3 years ago.
    Al Davis: “I will be hiring someone soon. Someone to help in the front office. Soon”

    Is ’soon’ akin to “next decade or so’??

  353. Herrera1 Says:

    Significant change will occur in 2010.

  354. NorthernD Says:

    Herrera1 Says:
    January 7th, 2010 at 10:48 pm
    Significant change will occur in 2010.
    ===================================
    Nostradamus said that?

  355. KoolKell Says:

    When?

  356. Nnamdi21 Says:

    KoolKell Says:
    January 7th, 2010 at 9:22 pm
    When will Al Davis stand up and take responsibility for HIS decisions

    ============================

    I’ve heard this assine comment frome better men then you including that clown Monte Poole. Everyone knows Daivs is the THE final say in all things Raider so how in the he-ll can people say “When will Al take responsibility?!”

    He hires the coaches that fail, he pays the salaries, he makes the draft picks, on and on, so yeah, I’d say he takes repsonsibilty. How could he not?

    Can’t have it both ways…

  357. Herrera1 Says:

    ND, that’s a good one…but seriously,

    KK, prior to training camp

  358. Nnamdi21 Says:

    Read again on how he SCREWED OVER THE FANS BEFORE THE SB, AND TWICE IMMEDIATELY FOLLOWING IT.
    Obviously you had NOTHING to say regarding that..hell no.

    ===================

    I did. Get the he-ll over it.

  359. DKnight007 Says:

    # RaiderDogg Says:
    January 7th, 2010 at 10:22 pm

    The Raiders’ season average of 44,285, last in the league, is the franchise’s lowest since 1967.”

    That average number is much higher than I anticipated. I figured the high 30’s at best.

    ^^^^^^^^^^^
    In actuality it’s lower than that and we should all know it. Most of the people stay outside in the parking lot and get hammered and can’t even make it in the stadium becuase they are passed out or security won’t allow their drunk azzes in because they will puke in the stadium or crap in the sinks of the bathrooms.

    The average attendance for Raider games this year is more like 30-35K….IF that.

  360. KoolKell Says:

    Herrera1 Says:
    January 7th, 2010 at 10:53 pm

    KK, prior to training camp
    ==============================
    Too late.

  361. Herrera1 Says:

    Prior to could also mean no later than. Could happen much sooner, but you have a pessimistic outlook.

  362. DKnight007 Says:

    # Herrera1 Says:
    January 7th, 2010 at 10:22 pm

    Who do you suggest run the team if not Mr Davis?

    ^^^^^^^^^^
    Anyone but him! Can Wisnewski handle player personnel or how about some bright former players like Tim Brown and Gannon or how about looking at the front offices of the Eagles, Saints, Cowboys, and see who helped build their teams. Another team to look at is the Vikings player personnel department. The Vikes know how to draft!

  363. NorthernD Says:

    KoolKell Says:
    January 7th, 2010 at 11:01 pm
    Herrera1 Says:
    January 7th, 2010 at 10:53 pm

    KK, prior to training camp
    ==============================
    Too late.
    ——————-
    That’s not too late for change. It looks like JR will be in camp and through the pre-season.

  364. DKnight007 Says:

    # NorthernD Says:
    January 7th, 2010 at 10:37 pm

    Herrera1 Says:
    January 7th, 2010 at 10:22 pm
    Who do you suggest run the team if not Mr Davis?
    ======================================
    You could get a replacement for Al and increase seat sales.
    Have a draw where one lucky seat holder gets to make the selections at the next draft.
    Given the history of recent picks, I’m sure the average fan is capable of doing just as well, if not better.

    (and they get a free t-shirt as well)

    ^^^^^^^^^^
    That’s a great idea and funny as heck! LOL

  365. KoolKell Says:

    NFL’s All Time Worst 5 General Managers.
    ————————–
    Al Davis #4

    Wow, a one-time genius is now stuck in the past. When an owner/general manager continues to use the phrase “commitment to excellence” over and over again to describe a team that has a record of 29-83 since 2003, 7 consecutive seasons of 11 loses or more, and 4 coaches in 6 years, you know he’s living in the past. The once proud franchise took a page out of Daniel Snyder’s business handbook on Football management. At one time, this franchise had the greatest winning percentage in all of professional sports, was a perennial playoff team and contender year after year. Somewhere along the way, Al Davis went completely insane, hired and fired coaches over and over again, and displayed a complete lack of understanding not typical of someone in the Pro Football Hall of Fame. Known as a ‘maverick’, he’s certainly that as he’s ignored the conventional wisdom of hiring good people and leaving them alone. Instead, he’s known to interfere in play calling, chasing over the hill free agents, and drafting complete duds like Jamarcus Russell whose 3 year quarterback rating is an abysmal 65.2%.

    http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/2557245/the_nfls_top_5_alltime_worst_general_pg2.html?cat=14

  366. NorthernD Says:

    DKnight007 Says:
    January 7th, 2010 at 11:05 pm
    # Herrera1 Says:
    January 7th, 2010 at 10:22 pm

    Who do you suggest run the team if not Mr Davis?

    ^^^^^^^^^^
    Anyone but him! Can Wisnewski handle player personnel or how about some bright former players like Tim Brown and Gannon or how about looking at the front offices of the Eagles, Saints, Cowboys, and see who helped build their teams. Another team to look at is the Vikings player personnel department. The Vikes know how to draft!
    ===========================
    Great pro players don’t usually make the best front office guys. It’s usually the guys with minimal talent who spent their time thinking about the best ways to improve.
    I wouldn’t be surprised if Frye ends up in the coaching ranks when he’s done.

  367. Richochet Says:

    Nnamdi21 Says:
    January 7th, 2010 at 10:53 pm
    KoolKell Says:
    January 7th, 2010 at 9:22 pm
    When will Al Davis stand up and take responsibility for HIS decisions

    ============================

    I’ve heard this assine comment frome better men then you including that clown Monte Poole. Everyone knows Daivs is the THE final say in all things Raider so how in the he-ll can people say “When will Al take responsibility?!”

    He hires the coaches that fail, he pays the salaries, he makes the draft picks, on and on, so yeah, I’d say he takes repsonsibilty. How could he not?

    Can’t have it both ways…
    =====================================
    Take your head out of your ass, peanut.
    Hiring someone doesn’t mean you ACCEPT THE RESPONSIBILITY, you fool.

    Al decides WHO PLAYS..but when the season tanks..he fires the HC.
    next year? Same thing.
    Blamed Kiffin, moron.
    Al also blamed Shell..moron.

    How damn stupid are you to say “Al has the final say, so how can people ask when he’s going to step up and take responsibility?”

    Like talking to a 12 yr old.

  368. NoMoreFargas Says:

    Didn’t the Rams add 2 MVP from the 4-12 team Kurt Warner and Marshall Faulk I know Warner came outta nowhere but yeah if the Raiders add 2 guys of that caliber than yeah we can go far too.

  369. Richochet Says:

    Nnamdi21 Says:
    January 7th, 2010 at 10:55 pm
    Read again on how he SCREWED OVER THE FANS BEFORE THE SB, AND TWICE IMMEDIATELY FOLLOWING IT.
    Obviously you had NOTHING to say regarding that..hell no.

    ===================

    I did. Get the he-ll over it.
    ==================
    LMAO..you did WHAT, peanut?

    You had something to say regarding Al screwing over the fans? You lie, twinkie.

    but hey..I’ll give you a chance to save face..go ahead, twinks…explain how Al held back thousands of tickets that were slated for the fans.

    Explain the parade he refused to let the team attend, screwing over the fans.

    Explain the rally the fans threw that Al also stated no one is allowed to attend.

    And this time..think, moron, instead of just blathering.

  370. KoolKell Says:

    That’s not too late for change. It looks like JR will be in camp and through the pre-season.
    =============================
    Waaay to late. He will have overseen another failed draft, constructed another failed coaching staff, and disheartened another roster.

  371. Herrera1 Says:

    Noone will argue that these are tough times and that Mr Davis’ persona has been tarnished. He is a proud man who’s been beaten but not beat. The past several years have taken it’s toll in many respects, including his health. He knows that he needs help and it is coming. It may not be in a traditional sense that you might expect, but it will come and it is unprecedented for him.

  372. NorthernD Says:

    NoMoreFargas Says:
    January 7th, 2010 at 11:11 pm
    Didn’t the Rams add 2 MVP from the 4-12 team Kurt Warner and Marshall Faulk I know Warner came outta nowhere but yeah if the Raiders add 2 guys of that caliber than yeah we can go far too.
    =============================
    If I remember correctly, they picked up Faulk from the colts in a trade. Trent Green was the starter, but wrecked his shoulder in the pre-season.
    I suppose you could look at Grads as being a lesser version of Warner. But they’re still missing a version of Faulk.
    Plus they also had WR’s Issac Bruce, Tory Holt, and creative genius Mike Martz.
    So the Raiders just need a brilliant OC, 2 superstar WR’s, and a Hall of fame RB.

    I see your point though, sometimes it takes just a few players or a coach to make the difference. Gruden and Gannon were a fine example of that…

  373. NorthernD Says:

    KoolKell Says:
    January 7th, 2010 at 11:16 pm
    That’s not too late for change. It looks like JR will be in camp and through the pre-season.
    =============================
    Waaay to late. He will have overseen another failed draft, constructed another failed coaching staff, and disheartened another roster.
    ———————————
    Weren’t you also a Cubs fan?
    My only suggestion would be to eat healthy, get plenty of exersize, and maybe one day you’ll see your team win another championship.

    Al is in his 80’s, let’s all live healthy lives and out-live the F….

  374. KoolKell Says:

    The past several years have taken it’s toll in many respects, including his health. He knows that he needs help and it is coming. It may not be in a traditional sense that you might expect, but it will come and it is unprecedented for him.
    ==============================
    Nobody gives a shyt. Sports is about winning. Retire and move to Florida.

  375. NorthernD Says:

    Herrera1 Says:
    January 7th, 2010 at 11:16 pm
    Noone will argue that these are tough times and that Mr Davis’ persona has been tarnished. He is a proud man who’s been beaten but not beat. The past several years have taken it’s toll in many respects, including his health. He knows that he needs help and it is coming. It may not be in a traditional sense that you might expect, but it will come and it is unprecedented for him.
    ================================

    Don’t keep me in suspense…What’s the punch line???

  376. Raider-DEE Says:

    Prediction:

    If JaBLUBBER comes back next season as the starting QB for the Raiders………”Not ONE STINKING SELLOUT in OAKLAND”

    Write it down!!!!

    GUARANTEED!!

  377. Florida Pete Says:

    wow…

    been reading… it reads like a seance with Herrera jerking everyone’s chain…

    even my little buddy “strap-on” got into it…

    look at some of these answers…

    Herrera1 Says:
    January 7th, 2010 at 11:04 pm
    Prior to could also mean no later than. Could happen much sooner, but you have a pessimistic outlook.

    Herrera1 Says:
    January 7th, 2010 at 10:48 pm
    Significant change will occur in 2010.

    Herrera1 Says:
    January 7th, 2010 at 10:16 pm
    Blackouts are expected given the circumstances. This is short term however, in my opinion.

    Herrera1 Says:
    January 7th, 2010 at 10:07 pm
    Mr Davis is in the process of doing some unprecidented things with the organization and many of you will be thankful. If you won’t keep the faith for the current state, at least try to keep that hope in mind.

    Herrera1 Says:
    January 7th, 2010 at 9:54 pm
    Nobody in the organization is embracing losing. Optimism is something else all together.

  378. Raider-DEE Says:

    Al Davis and the Raiders were the standing JOKE of 2009…..

    2nd place goes to the L.A. Clippers and their owner!!

  379. Florida Pete Says:

    Herrera1 Says:
    January 7th, 2010 at 11:16 pm
    Noone will argue that these are tough times and that Mr Davis’ persona has been tarnished. He is a proud man who’s been beaten but not beat. The past several years have taken it’s toll in many respects, including his health. He knows that he needs help and it is coming. It may not be in a traditional sense that you might expect, but it will come and it is unprecedented for him.

    ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::

    yeah, yeah… we all know about Candy Beaver coming over to dust his genitals…

    all that’s going to do is make hime WANT to live forever…

    how does that help the team???

  380. KoolKell Says:

    Al is in his 80’s, let’s all live healthy lives and out-live the F….
    ================================
    And if the double-digit losing seasons continue until he’s 103, oh well.

  381. Raider-DEE Says:

    Al Davis……..Please FIRE Your SELF!! Can you please do that for me?? Pease??

  382. DKnight007 Says:

    # Herrera1 Says:
    January 7th, 2010 at 11:16 pm

    Noone will argue that these are tough times and that Mr Davis’ persona has been tarnished. He is a proud man who’s been beaten but not beat. The past several years have taken it’s toll in many respects, including his health. He knows that he needs help and it is coming. It may not be in a traditional sense that you might expect, but it will come and it is unprecedented for him.

    ^^^^^^^^^^
    Al Davis doesn’t give flying rats azz about the fans…..so why should fans of the Raider Nation fork over any of their money to him and his lousy decision making and lousy management of this team??

    It’s over…..there will be 2 sellouts max next year and the rest of the games will be blacked out because the old fart refuses to do what is necessary to put a WINNING organization together and WINNING team on the field.

    Not suckering the fans anymore!

  383. DKnight007 Says:

    # Florida Pete Says:
    January 7th, 2010 at 11:31 pm

    Herrera1 Says:
    January 7th, 2010 at 11:16 pm
    Noone will argue that these are tough times and that Mr Davis’ persona has been tarnished. He is a proud man who’s been beaten but not beat. The past several years have taken it’s toll in many respects, including his health. He knows that he needs help and it is coming. It may not be in a traditional sense that you might expect, but it will come and it is unprecedented for him.

    ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::

    yeah, yeah… we all know about Candy Beaver coming over to dust his genitals…

    all that’s going to do is make hime WANT to live forever…

    how does that help the team???

    ^^^^^^^^^^^
    LOL!

    Man, Al Davis and his cronies beneath him are freakin pathetic tools aren’t they?? LMAO!

  384. Herrera1 Says:

    DKnight, so you’re done as a fan? Meaning you won’t be watching or attending a game any longer?

  385. KoolKell Says:

    Herrera1 Says:
    January 7th, 2010 at 11:37 pm

    DKnight, so you’re done as a fan? Meaning you won’t be watching or attending a game any longer?
    =============================
    Very tacky to attack the fans. Not good when your livelihood depends on them.

  386. KoolKell Says:

    Particularly when you have the lowest attendance in the league.

  387. Herrera1 Says:

    No attack intended, just curious. There is no incentive for an owner to “offer” a poor product to their customers. This has never been intentional, but it is what it is. Question remains, are you with us or against us.

  388. Herrera1 Says:

    Croanies need their sleep, gotta run. Keep the faith.

  389. KoolKell Says:

    Question remains, are you with us or against us.
    =============================
    I’m with the Raiders, I’m against current management.

    Us = Al Davis, John Herrera, I’m against.

  390. NorthernD Says:

    I just finished a whopper with cheese meal.
    It kinda feels like JaMarcus and I have somehow bonded…

  391. KoolKell Says:

    Herrera1 Says:
    January 8th, 2010 at 12:00 am

    Croanies need their sleep, gotta run. Keep the faith.
    =============================
    An example of ineptitude. “Croanies”. (sigh)

  392. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    NorthernD, you and JaMarcus bond? He’s a 23 year old millionaire. You’re a 40 year old divorced guy who’s one paycheck away from the welfare office, and who takes sports too seriously.

  393. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Hey Herrera, I’m not with you guys. Does that answer your question? I do not stand with you or your boss. Never will. F the both of yas.

  394. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    # Herrera1 Says:
    January 7th, 2010 at 11:16 pm

    Noone will argue that these are tough times and that Mr Davis’ persona has been tarnished. He is a proud man who’s been beaten but not beat. The past several years have taken it’s toll in many respects, including his health. He knows that he needs help and it is coming. It may not be in a traditional sense that you might expect, but it will come and it is unprecedented for him.

    ………..

    Al’s a homo.

  395. NorthernD Says:

    The Real MaddenRaider Says:
    January 8th, 2010 at 12:13 am
    NorthernD, you and JaMarcus bond? He’s a 23 year old millionaire. You’re a 40 year old divorced guy who’s one paycheck away from the welfare office, and who takes sports too seriously.
    ================================
    How did you know???

  396. NorthernD Says:

    Actually, you’re way off. JaMarcus is 24.

  397. Random Drug Tester Says:

    The Real MaddenRaider Says:
    January 6th, 2010 at 8:37 pm
    I have a new nickname for Cable, btw.

    JaFatass.

    We have two Jafatasses. And, the QB probably needs to go, too. But anyone with a brain knows that HC JaFatass definitely has to go.
    ———————————–
    lol….now that’s funny!

  398. Florida Pete Says:

    i can only shake my head at Maddenraider…

    the plural of Jafatass is not Jafatasses…

    if is Jafatassi… ends in I…

  399. centurionWR87 Says:

    WalterFootball.com : “If Mallett declares, he’s a good bet to go here. The Raiders have all but given up on JaMarcus “Captain Skittles” Russell. They opted to go with Charlie Frye over him. After the final game, Russell skipped a team meeting and checked into the Palms hotel in Las Vegas. Russell would have gone to the Hilton, but there weren’t any vending machines that sold Skittles.” (2010 Mock Draft)

    Walter Football surely doesn’t understand that the Raiders staff have not all given up on Russell yet, especially Davis… rite?

    I’d love Davis to draft us a nice new QB but a QB in the first round again…I reckon it’d be a fair few years before he does it again…although it is Al Davis…

    What do you guys think?

  400. 4evaRaider Says:

    Good Morning NATION!!!

  401. 4evaRaider Says:

    We are weak up the gut on D.

    we need 3DT’s and 2MLB’s,imo

  402. 4evaRaider Says:

    If we were,god forbid to take 3DT’s AND 2MLB’s we would be drafting 4 need AND depth at the same time.I know….a stroke of genius =)

  403. r8dr4lfe21 Says:

    Good Morning Nation, The Only Nation.
    Some good arguments last night huh? These bloggers get all hyped up about things out of there control it’s funny.

  404. NorthernD Says:

    Missed most of the game last night.
    I know Colt McCoy got knocked out early. Did anyone stand out? Did McClain or Cody pick up their game and make an impression?
    I sure the bowl games have a big influence on Al’s picks come draft time.

  405. hwnrdr Says:

    Good Morning Nation!!!
    Here we go again!!!

  406. 4evaRaider Says:

    =)

  407. 4evaRaider Says:

    407

  408. 4evaRaider Says:

    408

  409. hwnrdr Says:

    BTW: Anyone for Cribbs?

  410. 4evaRaider Says:

    Hwnrdr….I’m 4 anyone who can help us out of the sickness

  411. DIRT-LOT FOOTBALL Says:

    GOOD MORNING SPORT’S FAN’S, HWNRDR,4EVA,IS CABLE GONE OR WHAT ?

  412. hwnrdr Says:

    Good Morning Dirt Lot, 4eva, Northern D, R8dr4lfe…
    We’ll find out Monday…but unfortunately, I think what Jerry has wriiten is right…oh well…

  413. centurionWR87 Says:

    Cribbs would be a good addition but I think we have some real problems at the moment that we still need to address. Such as…who is QB next year? Gradkowski? new guy? New corner to help Nnamdi? Can we retain our LB corps? Upgrade O-Line?

  414. raiderzmaverick Says:

    No news is good news in the Raiders off season I guess. When it’s quiet at least you know Al’s not overpaying for some worthless high draft pick or injured free agent.

  415. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Hulk Hogan for GM!

  416. raiderzmaverick Says:

    Come Monday what will happen:

    a. Al will fire Cable
    b. No statement will be issued
    c. Al will issue a statment telling us why he kept cable.

  417. hwnrdr Says:

    Hogan will be too funny! Who would win in the stare down? Hogan or Davis? haha!!!

  418. RaiderRockstar Says:

    watching Al Davis try to run this football team is almost as funny as Ozzy Osbourne trying to sing past the age of 55.

    last 7 years have been a joke!

  419. raiderzmaverick Says:

    Hmmm….Hulk Hogan….not a bad idea. would at least be an improvement….

  420. El Tato Says:

    b

  421. hwnrdr Says:

    Yeah, Cribbs could help one of the problem areas…ST returns…plus didn’t Holmgren and the Browns insult the man by offering him 1 mill? From “pay the man” to “insult the man”…

  422. 4evaRaider Says:

    Cable did mess up a bunch,but so did everyone else.As I been saying,we have young players and young coaches and growing pains are expected.The players will have another year together under their belts and the coaches too.But yeah,same as last year.Another “most important” off season in the Raiders history

  423. Charlie Says:

    Good Morning
    Been offline with some business travel but I am getting caught up.

    I still am of the opinion that the coaching staff stays. Just count the number of different head coaches and assistants we have had while getting the same results.

    We simply do not have enough talent WHERE IT COUNTS.
    ON THE LINE OF SCRIMMAGE.

    No coach will ever say we do not have players that are talented enough. The best you will get is that a player did not play well.

    Cable came as close as you can by saying earlier in the week that “the good teams in the NFL are built along the line of scrimmage”

    Jerry sighted examples where Pears, Barnes etc did not respond to Cable’s coaching.
    THE RAIDERS WILL NEVER WIN TRYING TO BUILD SOLID LINES WITH OTHER TEAMS CASTOFFS.
    Our poor line play is not a coaching issue.
    Green,Carlisle and Warren are castoffs that would not be starting on any other team in the NFL.
    Mr Davis must invest high round picks on the line of scrimmage. We will in this draft.

    JR stays only if he takes a pay cut.
    Mr Davis approved of his benching and accountability under Cable has been excellent.
    All the scholarship players were sent packing by Cable with approval of Mr Davis. Curry,Jordan,Hall,Wilson,Sands,Burgess etc were all highly compenstaed poor performaers and they are gone.
    Warren is next.
    JR and Kelly will take cuts or they will go as well.

  424. DIRT-LOT FOOTBALL Says:

    HEY ROCKSTAR,COFFEE/COCTAIL’S ON ME THIS MORNING4 THE AM CREW,MAYBE VINCE MC WHAT’S HIS FACE WILL BUY THE TEAM..

  425. RaiderRockstar Says:

    what was Hulk Hogan’s signature move?

    the big boot or big leg? what was it called?

    anyways… it’d be funny to see him rip his shirt during a press conf after a loss

  426. 4evaRaider Says:

    NorthernD Says:
    January 8th, 2010 at 12:01 am
    I just finished a whopper with cheese meal.
    It kinda feels like JaMarcus and I have somehow bonded…
    ***************************************************

    lmao!

  427. hwnrdr Says:

    Hey…Ozzy still can sing…just can’t remember the words! LOL

  428. raiderzmaverick Says:

    I think we’d get a MARKED improvement with a O-Coordinator put into place and an established Offensive Line. Heck, even with average QBs (Gradkowski, Frye) we looked halfway descent on offense. With a better line and a good coordinator it for sure should be at least in the upper 1/3rd of the league.

  429. raiderzmaverick Says:

    # 4evaRaider Says:
    January 8th, 2010 at 6:12 am

    NorthernD Says:
    January 8th, 2010 at 12:01 am
    I just finished a whopper with cheese meal.
    It kinda feels like JaMarcus and I have somehow bonded…
    ***************************************************

    lmao!
    —————
    Yeah, I thought that was F’ing funny also!

  430. RaiderRockstar Says:

    MAYBE VINCE MC WHAT’S HIS FACE WILL BUY THE TEAM..

    ***

    I doubt it. his wife is running for the Senate seat vacated by Chris Dodd.

    I hope she wins. she’s republican, but CT has always been a liberal state, right?

  431. centurionWR87 Says:

    Warren has been pretty good but I think Okung or Campbell would be good to help us at RT

  432. RaiderRockstar Says:

    thanks for the coffee Dirt Lot!

    i can’t beleive Eric Mangini kept his job. LOL

    I fully expect the Brownies to have another Top 10 draft pick next season

  433. centurionWR87 Says:

    Why don’t the Raiders fans buy the Raiders when Al gives it up? Let’s do what the cheeseheads did :P

  434. hwnrdr Says:

    anyways… it’d be funny to see him rip his shirt during a press conf after a loss

    That would be funny!!! With Al sitting there emotionless!!!

  435. raiderzmaverick Says:

    How to the packers pay their players?

  436. 4evaRaider Says:

    Rockstar….it takes an incredible amount of energy to tour and sing….Ozzy been on a strict regimine for years.He 4sure in better shape than Bush lol

    ps….Hwnrdr is right,he just cant remember the words lol

  437. vegas raider Says:

    NorthernD Says:
    January 8th, 2010 at 5:37 am
    Missed most of the game last night.
    I know Colt McCoy got knocked out early. Did anyone stand out? Did McClain or Cody pick up their game and make an impression?
    I sure the bowl games have a big influence on Al’s picks come draft time.

    ***********************************

    I’m interested to see what other’s think, but McLain had some great moments, but seemed a little slow at times. Mt. Cody is a second round pick, he will not go in the first round.

    And my boy, Javier Arenas, had a sack, 2 int’s, and was kicked away from all game on kick returns.

  438. raiderzmaverick Says:

    Hulk: “This is time to get down & dirty….oooh yeeaaahhh!!! We ain’t draftin no god damned receiver who couldn’t catch a bee while swimmin’ in honey. Let’s get ready to rumbbble. The Crypt Keeper is goin’ down…”

  439. 4evaRaider Says:

    your boy did come up big in a BIG game Vegas,and we ALL know what that means =)

  440. RaiderRockstar Says:

    And my boy, Javier Arenas, had a sack, 2 int’s, and was kicked away from all game on kick returns.

    ***

    the Raiders have little talent on the roster. at this point we might as well look to add Gilbert Arenas!

  441. raiderzmaverick Says:

    1 big game = 35 mil guaranteed…
    4.2 40 = 28 million guaranteed

    Top player in the nation consistently = not on Al’s draft boards.

  442. hwnrdr Says:

    Hey 4eva…have you seen an Ozzfest this past decade? Ozzy went up to sing Paranoid (I think it was 2004)…
    “Finish with my woman cause she na na na na na na na…”
    Kinda funny but embarassing at the same time…he just flat out forgot the words!

  443. RaiderRockstar Says:

    LOL @ maverick. nice Hulk impersonation!

  444. raiderzmaverick Says:

    oooohhhhhh yeahhhhhhh!

  445. hwnrdr Says:

    raiderzmaverick Says:
    January 8th, 2010 at 6:20 am
    Hulk: “This is time to get down & dirty….oooh yeeaaahhh!!! We ain’t draftin no god damned receiver who couldn’t catch a bee while swimmin’ in honey. Let’s get ready to rumbbble. The Crypt Keeper is goin’ down…”

    LOL…my IT dept would have been pissed at me for making a ticket for coffee sprays on my monitor!!!

  446. Charlie Says:

    Centurion

    Warren does not play up to his salary of $5 mill a year(more than Seymour).
    No NFL team can pay guys like we are paying JR,Kelly and Warren and not get All Pro type performance.

    It is all about VLAUE and those three are the most glaring issues we have.

    Green and Carlisle are below average performers who need to go but their salaries are not inflated like the other examples I just gave.

  447. DIRT-LOT FOOTBALL Says:

    I THINK I WOULD PREFER RICK FLAIR..

  448. 4evaRaider Says:

    No Hwnrdr….never been to Ozz fest.We have The Next Big Thing concerts down here…..up and coming bands.But still last concert I went 2 was Drowning Pool and they kick major azz. Jet Black Stare opened 4 them and they were very good also,imo

  449. hwnrdr Says:

    Rick Flair? Nature Boy?

  450. exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:

    Which ones does AD keep? The majority of them in prime positions are OLDER coaches. Of course, to AD, they are all kids.

    Tom Cable Head Coach
    Dwaine Board Defensive Line
    Willie Brown Defensive Backs Assistant, Squad Development (OLD)
    John Fassel Special Teams Coordinator (OLD)
    Paul Hackett Quarterbacks (OLD)
    Mike Haluchak Linebackers
    Adam Henry Tight Ends
    Sanjay Lal Wide Receivers
    Bert Leone Quality Control, Defense
    John Marshall Defensive Coordinator (OLD)
    Jim Michalczik Offensive Line
    Chris Morgan Assistant Offensive Line
    Aaron Pelch Assistant Special Teams
    Brad Roll Strength and Conditioning
    Rich Scangarello Quality Control, Offense
    Kelly Skipper Running Backs
    Ted Tollner Passing Game Coordinator (OLD)
    Lionel Washington Defensive Backs

  451. vegas raider Says:

    The OOOOHHHHHHHHH YeeaaaaaaHHHH!!! is a Macho Man Randy Savage thing, no.

    Hulk was more of a, “Let me tell you about the Oakland Raiders BROTHER!!! Wat’cha going to do, when Justin Fargas, runs wild on YOU!!!

  452. exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:

    Oh by the way, Good Morning!

  453. exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:

    Justin Fargus runs wild on no one. imho

  454. hwnrdr Says:

    Hogan and Macho Man in the Raiders front office…I’ll renew my tix just to see halftime!

  455. DIRT-LOT FOOTBALL Says:

    WHOOOOO !!! KISS STEAL,N , JET FLY,N, LIMOSINE RIDE,N SON-OF-A-GUN..

  456. raiderzmaverick Says:

    He’ll keep Willie Brown now matter what.

    The ones I think definitely did an admirable job were:
    Paul Hackett (I think he got Gradowski and Frye ready and the Russell failure doesn’t fall on him).
    John Marshall
    Lionel Washington (love what the Safeties did this year).

    Otherwise, looks like Jim Michalczik needs to go even though he was highly thought of when arriving here. Also Mike Haluchak needs to go as I think the LBs regressed this year.

  457. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Vegas:

    I’d take Macho Man Randy Savage for GM too!

    Rick Flair? I dunno Dirt Lot …

  458. raiderzmaverick Says:

    # vegas raider Says:
    January 8th, 2010 at 6:31 am

    The OOOOHHHHHHHHH YeeaaaaaaHHHH!!! is a Macho Man Randy Savage thing, no.

    Hulk was more of a, “Let me tell you about the Oakland Raiders BROTHER!!! Wat’cha going to do, when Justin Fargas, runs wild on YOU!!!
    ——————————————–
    damned…..you’re right……

    but I ain’t never seen Fargas runnin’ wild on noone

  459. raiderzmaverick Says:

    # exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:
    January 8th, 2010 at 6:33 am

    Justin Fargus runs wild on no one. imho
    —————————————–
    LMAO. I said the exact same thing!

  460. DIRT-LOT FOOTBALL Says:

    JUSTIN FARGAS RUN’S WILD , 20 YDS ON 12 CARRY’S…

  461. RaiderRockstar Says:

    here is who I would replace, if Al does retain Cable…

    Kelly Skipper Running Backs
    Sanjay Lal Wide Receivers
    John Fassel Special Teams Coordinator
    Brad Roll Strength and Conditioning

    If Jim Fassel is hired, we gotta keep his son in some capacity. If any other HC is hired we gotta scrap the whole bunch and let the new HC assemble his own staff & implement his own system & schemes

  462. vegas raider Says:

    It was a joke!! Just wanted to make sure everyone is sharp this morning, lol

  463. 408RAIDER Says:

    Morning NATION… Cable watch daY 5….

  464. raiderzmaverick Says:

    I actually like John Marshall as Defensive Coordinator.

  465. vegas raider Says:

    Don’t know where that Deraus guy is supposed to be drafted by Bama, but that dude made himself some good money last night.

    KO’s the QB, picks the shovel-pass and houses it. He looked dominant out there.

  466. raiderzmaverick Says:

    You know, Al’s likes to think he’s never predictable (even though his draft picks in the 1st round are scarily predictable).

    But, because of that I don’t think on Monday he’ll do the press conference. He’ll probably do the meeting and then if he is firing Cable he’ll wait a few days without telling anyone anything.

  467. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Seabass & Shane = The Bushwackers!

  468. Charlie Says:

    Trust me on this one.
    Draft two studs on the Oline with our first two picks and watch how smart Michalczik becomes.

  469. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    Exla, Fassel is not old. His dad is though. And Kelly Skipper needs to be fired yesterday.

    If Cable is fired Monday, my stealth candidate is Tom Rathman for HC.

  470. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    Trade DMAC for Tom Rathman!

  471. vegas raider Says:

    Charlie,

    Run Defense is top priority. Planning on fixing the worst run defense for the last 7 years with 3rd and 4th round picks?? I don’t think that will work.

    I am vetting for both our 3rd rounders to be O-line. A RT and a G.

    And if we draft a LT in the first round, it is going to be this Williams kid from Maryland who runs a 4.7 forty. Sounds like another Al Davis draft disaster.

  472. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Trust me on this one.
    Draft two studs on the Oline with our first two picks and watch how smart Michalczik becomes.

    ***

    couldn’t agree more.

    how can you fire an OL coach that was saddled with Satele, Carlisle & Green as his starters? Then his best player (Gallery) was injured 3/4 of the season.

    Barnes, Morris, Pears & Walker also saw significant playing time and we still couldn’t protect the QB or run the football. gotta have talent on the roster. gotta have players that EXECUTE to win games imo

  473. DIRT-LOT FOOTBALL Says:

    AL BUY’S A BILL-BOARD ON 880 “YOUR GONE TOM CABLE,PACK YOUR SHYT”

  474. exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:

    Our special teams took a hit this year(no pun intended)
    under John Fassel this year. His job is safe though with a promotion if his dad(the young’en by AD’s standard)is hired.

  475. exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:

    Michalczik will always be looking over his shoulder if Cable is retained.

  476. Bob Marley Says:

    Jim Harbaugh would be great and once said he would never turn down a call from Al Davis, but if he doesn’t come, I like Cam Cameron, Baltimore’s OC.

    He’s a great play caller and does not seem to be a candidate anywhere after one lousy season as Miami’s HC, so maybe he’ll come here.

    Cameron can worry about fixing the offense and probably wouldn’t mind letting Marshall or someone else run the defense while Davis makes the personnel decisions.

    So keep Cable and get Mike Vick or get Cameron.

  477. exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:

    Welcome back Bob Marley.

  478. hwnrdr Says:

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    January 8th, 2010 at 6:43 am
    Seabass & Shane = The Bushwackers!

    Hey, why not! The Raiders and the WWF together…Vince and Al in a Celebrity Death Match!

  479. Charlie Says:

    Vegas

    Agreed that a high pick should be a DT.
    Part of our Oline problem was missing Gallery.

    I still think and OT for our first pick is essential.

    I could see a DT in round two and a Guard in round three.

  480. vegas raider Says:

    Didn’t Cam Cameron go 1-15 one year, they fired him and then went 10-6 the next year?

    Thanks, but no thanks. Not as a HC, OC definately, but not HC.

  481. NorthernD Says:

    Hulk Hogan and Cable could be a tag team. They could wrestle females. Cable would come out and slap them around a bit. Then Hulkster could pull a gun on them.
    They could perform at half-time. It might just increase attendance above the blackout levels…

  482. vegas raider Says:

    The Raiders need these teams ahead of us to get QB happy.

    If the Rams take Clausen and the Skins take Bradford, that just increases the chance that a McLain or Gerald McCoy will be there at #8.

    McCoy round 1
    Arenas round 2
    Two O-lineman in round 3.

    Maybe a LB in FA (Demeco Ryan ideally)

  483. raiderzmaverick Says:

    Agreed. No Cam Cameron for HC. Need a good O-Coordinator though, but doubt he’d leave Baltimore to come here.

  484. NorthernD Says:

    vegas raider,
    Todd mcShay has McCoy gone at 2. I’ve got a feeling we’ll end up with McLain at 8. I be very happy with that.

  485. 408RAIDER Says:

    Ratface already said he WILL roll with Campbell

  486. vegas raider Says:

    So much for that positive job growth in December KoolKell.

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100108/ap_on_bi_go_ec_fi/us_economy

  487. CaptainBlack Says:

    If John Herrera did show up, that was a stand up thing to do. He gets credit for that

  488. Florida Pete Says:

    Rick Flair for GM???

    no, man…

    i don’t want anybody GMing that’s got bigger tits than i do…

  489. raiderzmaverick Says:

    # CaptainBlack Says:
    January 8th, 2010 at 7:14 am

    If John Herrera did show up, that was a stand up thing to do. He gets credit for that
    ———————————
    huh?

  490. CaptainBlack Says:

    RM, huh? cause for confusion?

  491. raiderzmaverick Says:

    Yeah, if John Herrera did show up for what?

    I’d never heard of Herrera doing anything stand up so I was quite supprised to see those words together, but have no idea what you’re talking about.

  492. Florida Pete Says:

    raiderzmaverick Says:
    January 8th, 2010 at 7:15 am
    # CaptainBlack Says:
    January 8th, 2010 at 7:14 am

    If John Herrera did show up, that was a stand up thing to do. He gets credit for that
    ———————————
    huh?

    ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::

    i’ll see your “huh???”…

    and raise you a double “what???”

  493. CaptainBlack Says:

    FP, did you read the posts from around 200 on down?

  494. raiderzmaverick Says:

    okay captain black…you’ve got us in mystery

  495. CaptainBlack Says:

    Believe it or not, my brother-in-law worked with Herrera, abd said he was a good guy. John has a job to do whether you agree with it or not.

  496. raiderzmaverick Says:

    Ha! You mean the person who posted as “herrera” earlier???

    Yeah, and my name is Raiderzmaverick. Good to meet you Captain Black

  497. raiderzmaverick Says:

    # CaptainBlack Says:
    January 8th, 2010 at 7:22 am

    Believe it or not, my brother-in-law worked with Herrera, abd said he was a good guy. John has a job to do whether you agree with it or not.
    ———————————————-
    Bull $hit. Part of the job discription doesn’t have to do with attacking sports bars and former players or coaches.

  498. CaptainBlack Says:

    And if you think he is going to bite Al’s head off, that dog wont run.

  499. raiderzmaverick Says:

    I don’t know what else he does, but every time I see him answering a question or issuing a statment it’s totally twisted.

  500. vegas raider Says:

    LOL

    Off to this thing some call work.

    Enjoy the day Nation!!

  501. CaptainBlack Says:

    Mav, do you know what the job description is for the Raiders?

  502. raiderzmaverick Says:

    I’m not saying he is the one who should put Al in his place. I’m saying that he’s way out of line with his statements. Name one time where he issued a clear logical statement which wasn’t critical or attacking. Or did something which actually improved the Raiders PR?

  503. CaptainBlack Says:

    He is going to support the organization…regardless

  504. Florida Pete Says:

    CaptainBlack Says:
    January 8th, 2010 at 7:21 am
    FP, did you read the posts from around 200 on down?

    :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::

    you mean all this???

    ??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

    Florida Pete Says:
    January 7th, 2010 at 11:26 pm
    wow…

    been reading… it reads like a seance with Herrera jerking everyone’s chain…

    even my little buddy “strap-on” got into it…

    look at some of these answers…

    Herrera1 Says:
    January 7th, 2010 at 11:04 pm
    Prior to could also mean no later than. Could happen much sooner, but you have a pessimistic outlook.

    Herrera1 Says:
    January 7th, 2010 at 10:48 pm
    Significant change will occur in 2010.

    Herrera1 Says:
    January 7th, 2010 at 10:16 pm
    Blackouts are expected given the circumstances. This is short term however, in my opinion.

    Herrera1 Says:
    January 7th, 2010 at 10:07 pm
    Mr Davis is in the process of doing some unprecidented things with the organization and many of you will be thankful. If you won’t keep the faith for the current state, at least try to keep that hope in mind.

    Herrera1 Says:
    January 7th, 2010 at 9:54 pm
    Nobody in the organization is embracing losing. Optimism is something else all together.

  505. raiderzmaverick Says:

    Sure, you’re supposed to forward the company line. But he adds the Bull$hit in…..”Gannon needs help”. “Gannon is the worst QB in Superbowl history…he’d be nothing without what we gave him”. “Gruden is an average Coach who got lucky”. He doesn’t need to issue those things, or can say them in a way which fits the “public relations” profile.

  506. CaptainBlack Says:

    He has not. But he is representing the organization as it wishes to be represented. It is what it is

  507. Florida Pete Says:

    and this???

    Florida Pete Says:
    January 7th, 2010 at 11:31 pm
    Herrera1 Says:
    January 7th, 2010 at 11:16 pm
    Noone will argue that these are tough times and that Mr Davis’ persona has been tarnished. He is a proud man who’s been beaten but not beat. The past several years have taken it’s toll in many respects, including his health. He knows that he needs help and it is coming. It may not be in a traditional sense that you might expect, but it will come and it is unprecedented for him.

    ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::

    yeah, yeah… we all know about Candy Beaver coming over to dust his genitals…

    all that’s going to do is make hime WANT to live forever…

    how does that help the team???

  508. raiderzmaverick Says:

    # CaptainBlack Says:
    January 8th, 2010 at 7:27 am

    He is going to support the organization…regardless
    ———————————
    I ain’t arguing the fact that he should or shouldn’t support the organization. he should. I’m sayin’ he IS NOT supporting the organization with how he goes about his job.

  509. CaptainBlack Says:

    FP…there is more

  510. CaptainBlack Says:

    Mav, has AD censured him? No

  511. raiderzmaverick Says:

    Here – let me help you clear it up. He’s the Raiders “PR Man”.

    Definition of Public Relations: Communication by a person or an organization with the purpose of creating a favorable public image; commonly referred to as PR

    He’s not doin’ his job man. He’s maybe thinking he’s part of the Supprano’s (and even doin’ a bad job of that), but he sure as hell ain’t creating PR.

  512. Florida Pete Says:

    CaptainBlack Says:
    January 8th, 2010 at 7:30 am
    FP…there is more

    :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::

    do us all a favor and grab the meaningful one and re-post it…

  513. CaptainBlack Says:

    Mav, if has has not changed his approach, ask yourself why? He has a boss, so why has the boss not topld him to shut it? Because he is speaking for his boss.

  514. raiderzmaverick Says:

    When you attack the only thing which has been good for the team in 15 Fuc*ing years – I think that’s pretty sick.

  515. raiderzmaverick Says:

    No, you can forward communication many ways. You don’t have to do it like such a slimeball.

  516. RaiderRockstar Says:

    WORK TO DO. LATER GENTS!

  517. raiderzmaverick Says:

    You could say “We aren’t in need of another teacher for Russell. He has plenty of support with what he has now.”. He doesn’t have to go into the other BS.

  518. Florida Pete Says:

    you know the Raiders are a billion dollar corporation… (or should be)…

    but it’s run like a salvage yard…

  519. CaptainBlack Says:

    Herrera1 Says:
    January 7th, 2010 at 6:46 pm
    Gannon bit the hand that fed him. There are many untruths that are written about this organization, which is why it cannot trust the media and will continue to be private about its business. Mistakes have been made, this is not in question. Some decisions (players) take more time to show results than others. Coaches will only be maintained when they can execute the plan and lever the player strengths. Don’t be fooled. There are many factors contributing to the win/loss records. The main factor contributing to the last 7 years performance is Mr Davis’ attempt to give greater power to his coaches.
    ___________________________________________

  520. raiderzmaverick Says:

    Anyways, that pisses me off even more than the loosing. That we attack the only good things that this Organization has had for years. Even Ricky’s!?! for having Gruden (!!) come and have fun with Raiders fans. Boy that’s a crime. Immagine if Gannon was there too.

  521. CaptainBlack Says:

    Mav, I agree with you but he speaks for AD

  522. CaptainBlack Says:

    FP there are others too

  523. CaptainBlack Says:

    Hererra1 Says:
    January 7th, 2010 at 5:31 pm
    There are many eyes on this heavily visited site. This you must know. The Raiders family has shared much pain with the faithful Raider Nation during these difficult times.

  524. raiderzmaverick Says:

    Captain Black. That’s funny, but that’s probably not even Herrera.

    But even so, do you agree with that? That the only reason we’re bad is because he’s trying to give more power to his coaches???

    Why was Gruden traded in the first place then? If he was willing to give that power?

  525. raiderzmaverick Says:

    Okay, I’m glad we’re in agreement

  526. Florida Pete Says:

    Herrera1 Says:
    January 7th, 2010 at 6:46 pm
    ” The main factor contributing to the last 7 years performance is Mr Davis’ attempt to give greater power to his coaches. ”

    :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::

    yeah, i remember that…

    and the only thing i can say is: bullschitt…

  527. VanHeathen Says:

    the longer this Herrera1 responded, the more he sounded like Priest/Mistic, etc…
    it’s the same dude…
    no way Herrera risks pissing off Al to post in here, esp. under his own name…

  528. CaptainBlack Says:

    FP, exactly!

  529. CaptainBlack Says:

    VH, bullseye! No fan talks like them

  530. Florida Pete Says:

    Hererra1 Says:
    January 7th, 2010 at 5:31 pm
    There are many eyes on this heavily visited site. This you must know. The Raiders family has shared much pain with the faithful Raider Nation during these difficult times.

    ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::

    if true, this means that Al Davis and company does not give a rip about any of our opinions…

    the vast majority of us for the past several years have spoken to building the lines…

    filling the holes we have…

    and what happens???

    exhibit a: last years draft.

  531. Dakota Says:

    Lol, to think that some of you even considered for one second that that guy was the real Herrera.

    Jezuz H. Cripes!

  532. 408RAIDER Says:

    LOL

    http://img68.exs.cx/img68/822/emu.jpg

  533. hwnrdr Says:

    As the World Turns…
    Have a good weekend Nation!!!

  534. raiderzmaverick Says:

    Okay, I get it CB. You don’t agree with what Herrera says. You just think he’s a good guy. And he’s just doing a super-good job of acting the part of the A$$hole and digging the knife deep in the back of so many because he’s just forwarding it from the boss. It’s nothing to do with him personally.

  535. raiderzmaverick Says:

    I know Dakota….it’s a bit sad…

  536. CaptainBlack Says:

    That was quite a leap, Mav.

  537. Dakota Says:

    408, can you blow that picture up? My son is due to be born in late Feb-early March and I want to hang that thing in his room.

  538. CaptainBlack Says:

    CaptainBlack Says:
    January 7th, 2010 at 4:19 pm
    I salute the Raiders for another PR debacle with regard to Rich Gannon. If Gannon was blowing smoke, so be it, but to publically criticize a popular QB only diminshes the organization. Rich won games for the Raiders and he deserves the organization’s respect. He earned it. Al uses people then shyts on them. A shame indeed.

  539. 4evaRaider Says:

    True,Herrera could phrase his answers so they aren’t as offensive leaning,like….

    True Rich Gannon was an average journey-man QB in the NFL when the Raiders obtained him.But Mr.Davis in all his genius saw who Gannon “could be”,with the teachings of Big Al.Yes Sir everybody saw what great heights Gannon took us to after learning football from Al Davis.It’s just too bad Rich had the most horrible day of his career in the biggest game of his career.And we all know Big Al didnt teach him that

    or something

  540. Florida Pete Says:

    Dakota Says:
    January 8th, 2010 at 7:45 am
    408, can you blow that picture up? My son is due to be born in late Feb-early March and I want to hang that thing in his room.

    ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::

    he’ll be needing therapy before he’s even out of the crib…

  541. raiderzmaverick Says:

    I guess you noticed that this guy attacking Gruden and Gannon and his assenine releases really piss me off.

  542. CaptainBlack Says:

    Mav, yes…that is correct.

  543. 408RAIDER Says:

    Dakota

    congratulations.. IDK about blowing up that picture. U Might scare the lil guy.

  544. CaptainBlack Says:

    And they should…Piss me off too

  545. CaptainBlack Says:

    But he is speaking for the MAN

  546. Dakota Says:

    Herrera is a hanger-on whose entire livelihood depends on him following directions 100% of the time. Everything he says and everything he does comes directly from Al Davis. The man probably has to get a hall pass from big Al to use the little boy’s room. He is a parrot and nothing more.

  547. CaptainBlack Says:

    The organization has done significant damage to itself by the way it responds publically. I speak to die hard fan regularly and the team has really become insignificant. I tell them what it was like back in the day.

  548. Dakota Says:

    408RAIDER Says:
    January 8th, 2010 at 7:48 am
    Dakota

    congratulations.. IDK about blowing up that picture. U Might scare the lil guy.
    __________________________

    That is the point…I want him terrified of that thing, and then the first time I send him to bed and he comes out asking for a drink or to go to the bathroom to delay bedtime I will tell him he better get his ass back to bed before I let the monster out of the picture.

    Works every time.

  549. CaptainBlack Says:

    Dak, we all have jobs that require us to support our boss. Unless of course, you don’t want to work.

  550. Florida Pete Says:

    you read all the crap by herrera1 last night…

    the impression i got was that it was a small group of people doing the writing…

    3 or 4 people…

    like i said last night… it read like a seance…

  551. CaptainBlack Says:

    FP..agree

  552. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    Trade DMAC for a parrot!

  553. CaptainBlack Says:

    Where did the group come from? They had talking points they wanted discussed.

  554. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    Trade DMAC for that emu!

  555. Dakota Says:

    Supporting a boss is one thing, allowing yourself to look like a complete idiot, fool and @-hole is quite another. But hey, what else is Herrera going to do? The only other job he is currently qualified for is playing the clown at children’s b-day parties.

  556. CaptainBlack Says:

    We are all pissed at the direction the Raiders have taken the last 7 years. Something must occur this off season to turn it around, or I see really big problems ahead.

  557. Dakota Says:

    Hererra1 Says:
    January 7th, 2010 at 5:31 pm
    There are many eyes on this heavily visited site. This you must know. The Raiders family has shared much pain with the faithful Raider Nation during these difficult times.
    ___________________________

    Fuk people, he didn’t even spell his own name right when he first began posting and you think he might be for real? lollollollollol

  558. CaptainBlack Says:

    Dakota, you are pissed, and that is understandable. I am too. But he has a job to do and he’s been out front taking the shots

  559. raiderzmaverick Says:

    Well, I know as a Raider Fan I’m faithful. I’ll never root for another team. But, it’s different. The way things are run now really piss me off.

    I hope Al gets some help. Someone he trusts who can lead the way. Wishful thinking at this point I guess…

  560. CaptainBlack Says:

    Mav, me too. I could never support another team.

  561. jhill Says:

    raiderzmaverick Says:
    January 8th, 2010 at 7:34 am

    You could say “We aren’t in need of another teacher for Russell. He has plenty of support with what he has now.”. He doesn’t have to go into the other BS.

    ——————————————————-

    If Al was a bit healthier, you’d be hearing these words from Al. Herrera is the ultimate messenger.

  562. CaptainBlack Says:

    Dakota, think about what you wrote?

  563. raiderzmaverick Says:

    CB why are you definiding him so much? You make it seem like he’s taking the shots instead of giving them. Anyways, okay, he has a job to do. Other PR men before him did the same job but did it in a much better manner.

  564. 408RAIDER Says:

    Is this guy honestly trying to Justify Herrera’s actions??

  565. raiderzmaverick Says:

    LoDucca or whatever his name was used to issue the press releases. He had at least class about what he said. What I’m sayin’ is that he has a message to forward maybe, but he has his own way to forward it that doesn’t need to be quite so abrasive.

  566. Dakota Says:

    CaptainBlack Says:
    January 8th, 2010 at 8:03 am
    Dakota, you are pissed, and that is understandable. I am too. But he has a job to do and he’s been out front taking the shots
    ______________________

    I am not pissed at Herrera, that would be like being pissed off at the German dropping coal off at Treblinka…he is a nothing. Al pisses me off and he has since 1992.

  567. CaptainBlack Says:

    Mav, I am not defending. He’s spoken for the organization, and the fans are lighting him up here. I am sure the articles written for today are mocking him for his statement. It’s just the obvious.

  568. raiderzmaverick Says:

    Captain Black. What do you think we’re going to do to get better next year?

    Let’s get back to talking football.

  569. CaptainBlack Says:

    Dakota, nice line.

  570. raiderzmaverick Says:

    Captain Black….okay, but others had the same job before him, but didn’t do the same thing.

  571. jhill Says:

    Dakota Says:
    January 8th, 2010 at 7:43 am

    Lol, to think that some of you even considered for one second that that guy was the real Herrera.

    Jezuz H. Cripes!

    ——————————————————-

    I bet you were the kid who couldn’t wait to bust the Santa Claud bubble of other kids, lol.

    Or was it the Easter Bunny?

  572. raiderzmaverick Says:

    True Dakota.

  573. Dakota Says:

    Jhill,

    What are you saying? The Easter Bunny is FOR REAL!!!!!

  574. 4evaRaider Says:

    what do you mean “burst the Santa Claus bubble” Jhill?

  575. CaptainBlack Says:

    Mav, I’d like to see Hackett remain. He did a great job! The O-line coach and LB coach need to go. We need to improve the O-line. The right side needs to be replaced. I also believe a center is needed. So often the line collapsed at the center position. I am concerned with all three linebackers. I would keep Stanford Routte, but another DB should be drafted. Draft players based on football acumen, not potential. Potential takes too long to develop, if it ever does.

  576. Dakota Says:

    Coach Bill Belichick insists that DE/OLB Derrick Burgess has met expectations this year after being acquired from the Raiders.
    The Pats’ pass rush has been underwhelming all season, but Belichick claims Burgess is “probably as good as we’ve had as a run player and a pass rusher.” We don’t see it, and neither do several of Burgess’ teammates who questioned Belichick’s analysis. Burgess has just 37 tackles and five sacks this season. Jan. 8 – 11:00 am et
    Source: Boston Herald

  577. 4evaRaider Says:

    Dakota everyone knows that Bugs Bunny is the Easter Bunny

  578. CaptainBlack Says:

    I like Tom Cable, but I don’t see him as a quality HC. We can do better, hell, we have to do better! Al really has to make the right call this time. No room for error.

  579. Dakota Says:

    Al Davis suffered a breakup with Kiffin in 2008…Tom Cable was Al’s rebound coach…you know, the chick you would normally steer clear from and whom you would never date long-term. Al is finally getting back on his feet and is about to dump this trailer-trash rebound coach Tom Cable.

    Hit the road Jack (ass)!

  580. Florida Pete Says:

    i have had enough of people trashing the man who has given me so much throughout my whole life !!!

    leave Santa Claus alone !!!

  581. Dakota Says:

    Hey KoolKell, I thought you said yesterday that everything was good! What is up with these headlines?

    “Outlook for Job Market is Grim”

    “Jobs Report is Dissapointing”

    “Economy Loses More Jobs than Expected”

    “Is Stimulous Working?”

  582. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    Trade DMAC for Burgess!

  583. 408RAIDER Says:

    Santa=pedophile Im just sayin….

  584. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    Trade DMAC for a rebound RB!

  585. 4evaRaider Says:

    wtf

  586. 408RAIDER Says:

    Bo’s killing me with “Trade DMAC for” .. 2 nickles and a jaw breaker… :P

  587. Florida Pete Says:

    so Capitan Black…

    what was it like pretending to be Herrera last night???

  588. raiderzmaverick Says:

    # CaptainBlack Says:
    January 8th, 2010 at 8:13 am

    Mav, I’d like to see Hackett remain. He did a great job! The O-line coach and LB coach need to go. We need to improve the O-line. The right side needs to be replaced. I also believe a center is needed. So often the line collapsed at the center position. I am concerned with all three linebackers. I would keep Stanford Routte, but another DB should be drafted. Draft players based on football acumen, not potential. Potential takes too long to develop, if it ever does.

    —————————————–
    Well, damned! WE’re in complete agreement on that. I was thinking pretty much the same.

  589. raiderzmaverick Says:

    But I think we need to add one BIG DT as well. Like we used to have during the Gruden years. I remember always having two different guys that were HUGE.

  590. CaptainBlack Says:

    I do not believe DHB will develop into an NFL WR. Look at the WRs taken by Detroit No. 1 who could catch, but flopped in the league. Murphy has heart, desire, and can catch. He was drafted number 4. To me, the number one draft choice is too costly, and rarely does a number one pick live up to his billing. You build a team with the lower picks. And if you draft well, you win with 3s, 4,s 5s. The Ravens draft well, so do the Eagles, Giants..

  591. Florida Pete Says:

    DT Williams from Tennessee is my nominee…

    i guess that means he’ll be playing for the broncos…

  592. Dakota Says:

    Fire Cable!

    Hire Leslie Frazier!

    Pretty simple Al, now just do it for fuk’s sake.

  593. CaptainBlack Says:

    The Raiders offense once controlled games. The offense is the biggest need. I suspect AD is going to be very creative this year acquiring draft picks and veterans to improve the entire team

  594. 408RAIDER Says:

    Jerry wheres the fix?

  595. r8eray Says:

    Good Morning Nation!!

    What’s the word?

  596. Dakota Says:

    Brian Schottenheimer is another guy to go after Al…Come on, go get him or Frazier!

  597. CaptainBlack Says:

    Whoever becomes the starting QB, Grads or JaMarcus, the had better have a line strong enough to block, and drive D lineman down

  598. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    Thx 408. I would trade DMAC simply to humor you.

    In all honesty, I hope they are shopping him for a MLB, RT, C or a few mid-round picks (where Al is a much better drafter).

  599. CaptainBlack Says:

    Dakota, what is your opinion of the Boise State coach?

  600. Dakota Says:

    Add Ron Rivera to the list while you are at it dipscheet.

  601. CaptainBlack Says:

    FP, well, it was painful

  602. 408RAIDER Says:

    # CaptainBlack Says:
    January 8th, 2010 at 8:35 am

    Whoever becomes the starting QB, Grads or JaMarcus, the had better have a line strong enough to block, and drive D lineman down
    —————–

    Grads won’t be coming back. The Raiders have already stated that.

  603. 408RAIDER Says:

    # 4evaRaider Says:
    January 8th, 2010 at 8:26 am

    wtf
    —————

    ????????????????????????????RANDOM???????????????????

  604. CaptainBlack Says:

    408, no they did not

  605. 408RAIDER Says:

    CaptainBlack

    yes huh…

  606. CaptainBlack Says:

    post the link

  607. Dakota Says:

    CaptainBlack,

    First, we don’t need another HC from Idaho. Second, I am now against guys coming from college directly to the position of NFL HC when they have 1) never played in the NFL or 2) never coached in the NFL. They generally have no fukin clue!

    Just say no to Chris Pertersen.

  608. CaptainBlack Says:

    Dakota…agreed

  609. 408RAIDER Says:

    Find it your self. :P

  610. Raider O Says:

    1st- ILB R McClain
    2ns- DE Carlos Dunlap (move Seymour inside)
    3rd- CB Syd Thompson
    3rd- RT Sam Young or Kyle Calloway
    4th- RG Sergio Render
    5th- DT Demarcus Granger
    7th- FB

    Sign QB J Campbell!!

    Cut Cooper, Green, Pears, Both FBs, Fargas, Walker, Warren, TK, and Euk.

  611. Dakota Says:

    408RAIDER Says:
    January 8th, 2010 at 8:38 am
    # CaptainBlack Says:
    January 8th, 2010 at 8:35 am

    Whoever becomes the starting QB, Grads or JaMarcus, the had better have a line strong enough to block, and drive D lineman down
    —————–

    Grads won’t be coming back. The Raiders have already stated that.
    ________________________

    408, I may have filed a false news report yesterday stating that the Raiders told Garbagekowski that they would not be retaining him….

  612. CaptainBlack Says:

    408, are there no toilets for you to clean? Go play, boy

  613. 408RAIDER Says:

    CaptainBlack

    Whatever dude..

  614. 4evaRaider Says:

    Nice to see ya come clean Dakota =)

  615. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    Dakota Says:
    January 8th, 2010 at 8:44 am

    408, I may have filed a false news report yesterday stating that the Raiders told Garbagekowski that they would not be retaining him….

    :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::

    MAY?!?! Sort of like you MAY have encouraged Al to draft the humongous bust Darren McFelldown?

  616. Florida Pete Says:

    Dakota Says:
    January 8th, 2010 at 8:35 am
    Brian Schottenheimer is another guy to go after Al…Come on, go get him or Frazier!

    :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::

    you’re joking, right ???

  617. Dakota Says:

    Dakota Says:
    January 7th, 2010 at 8:15 am
    Wow, I guess you Garbagekowski fans are going to be pissed lol:

    Oakland Ledger staff and wire report

    Posted: 01/07/2010 07:23:00 AM PST

    John Fiensberg, agent for Raiders Quarterback Bruce Gradkowski, has told the press that he has been informed by the Oakland Raiders that his client will not be retained when he becomes a free agent this offseason and that the quarterback that gave so many fans so much hope for the future after replacing embattled quarterback Jamarcus Russell, should seek opportunities with other teams as soon as the free agency period begins on February 27th, 2010. This news seems to indicate that the Oakland Raiders fully intend on moving forward with Russell as the franchise quarterback despite questions about his attitude and work ethic.

    http://www.oaklandledger.com/raiders_just messingwithya

  618. Raider O Says:

    Dakota,

    That was too funny.

  619. Dakota Says:

    Florida Pete Says:
    January 8th, 2010 at 8:49 am
    Dakota Says:
    January 8th, 2010 at 8:35 am
    Brian Schottenheimer is another guy to go after Al…Come on, go get him or Frazier!

    :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::

    you’re joking, right ???
    _________________________

    Why, because his dad hates us? What son doesn’t want to blaze his own trail?

  620. CaptainBlack Says:

    Dakota, I thought you found that on either MSNBC or The Huffington Post.

  621. 408RAIDER Says:

    I know I read it some wheres I think it was pft but I cant remember. I visit alot of Raider sites besides this 1.

  622. M Lonetree Says:

    Watching the BS game (from the Tex perspective) last night was exactly like watching a Raider game.
    In the beginning there is hope, but that soon becomes dashed by settling for field goals.
    Then come the punts followed by the defense allowing big plays followed by gross clock mismanagement and a stupid play just before the half.
    Then comes renewed hope as the other team doesn’t try too hard for a while until the renewed hope is crushed by turnovers resulting in a double digit loss.

  623. Dakota Says:

    Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
    January 8th, 2010 at 8:49 am
    Dakota Says:
    January 8th, 2010 at 8:44 am

    408, I may have filed a false news report yesterday stating that the Raiders told Garbagekowski that they would not be retaining him….

    :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::

    MAY?!?! Sort of like you MAY have encouraged Al to draft the humongous bust Darren McFelldown?
    _________________________

    As always you will all be thanking me before it is all said and done. Monday will be the first step…getting rid of the Buffoon coach that built our horrible o-line and who can’t find a way to maximize the three running backs.

    Step two-fix the o-line.

  624. Florida Pete Says:

    Dakota Says:
    January 8th, 2010 at 8:52 am
    Florida Pete Says:
    January 8th, 2010 at 8:49 am
    Dakota Says:
    January 8th, 2010 at 8:35 am
    Brian Schottenheimer is another guy to go after Al…Come on, go get him or Frazier!

    :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::

    you’re joking, right ???
    _________________________

    Why, because his dad hates us? What son doesn’t want to blaze his own trail?

    :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::

    sorry, i confused him with Dave Shula… former Cincinnati head coach…

    should have checked first…

    although… his dad would probably break his legs if he took a job with the Raiders…

  625. Dude Says:

    Was reading SI last night and came across a poll they did of NFL players. The poll asked the Question “What NFL team would you LEAST want to play for?”. The run away winner of the poll….. You guessed it, the Oakland Raiders. Oh how times have changed.

  626. Dakota Says:

    Leslie Frazier
    Brian Schottenheimer
    Ron Rivera
    Jim Fassel
    Brian Billick
    Dennis Green
    Jim Haslett
    Todd Bowles
    Gregg Williams
    Mike Zimmer
    Kevin Gilbride
    Karl Dorrell
    Mike Heimerdinger
    Jim Harbaugh

    Come on Al, one of these guys will be willing to take the job and they are ALL better than the Wife-Beating Buffoon!

  627. Dude Says:

    Dakota,

    So they fire Cable, who just happens to be one of the better line coaches around, who then fixes the o-line?

  628. Raider O Says:

    I hope they fire Cable today!

  629. Dakota Says:

    Add Jeremy Bates to the HC list…former OC for the Broncos…current assistant HC and QB coach for USC.

    Should have hired him last year.

  630. Richochet Says:

    CaptainBlack Says:
    January 8th, 2010 at 8:44 am
    408, are there no toilets for you to clean? Go play, boy
    =====================
    Kids and their potty humor.

    I can just see you giggling as you post yet another juvenile toilet, or mommy take..followed by “boy, when I grow up, I’m really going to say something smart..that will teach them.”

    You’ll be sure and let us know when that happens, won’t you, Gomer?

  631. Dude Says:

    Jeremy Bates? LOL. Yeah, hed be great!! Really did wonders with SCs offense.

  632. Richochet Says:

    Raider O Says:
    January 8th, 2010 at 9:05 am
    I hope they fire Cable today!
    =============
    Considering Al’s passion for drama, and the ensueing attention whore angle, I suspect Friday’s announcement will get lost in weekend playoff ponderings.

    Tuesday sounds about right.

  633. Dakota Says:

    Dude Says:
    January 8th, 2010 at 9:04 am
    Dakota,

    So they fire Cable, who just happens to be one of the better line coaches around, who then fixes the o-line?
    _________________

    What, do you think Cable is going to take a demotion back to o-line coach or something? The last two seasons prove that he is not capable of coaching the o-line along with his other duties so it is no loss. besides, we need to get rid of this pecker head who endorses the likes of Barnes, Pears, Satele and Kwame Harris and who claims that his system can find blockers late in the draft. All BS and he has had enough time to prove it.

    He is a decent o-line coach when 1) he has no other responsibilities and 2) when he has no control over which players are brought in.
    The next o-line coach should be whomever the new HC and OC want. They should all be on the same page…not rocket science, but Al sure can’t seem to figure that out.

  634. CaptainBlack Says:

    Hi poodle!

  635. Richochet Says:

    CaptainBlack Says:
    January 8th, 2010 at 8:33 am
    The Raiders offense once controlled games. The offense is the biggest need. I suspect AD is going to be very creative this year acquiring draft picks and veterans to improve the entire team
    =====================
    And I suspect you’ll continue to abuse the right to be a cotton ball.

    Yeah…THIS YEAR Al will “be creative”.

    Didn’t you suspect that last year?
    Year before?
    Decade before?

    but now?? all of a sudden? Al borrows your 15w lightbulb and says “whoa..hey…here’s an idea”???

    Besides..admit it..that’s an 5w bulb you have, just giving off 15w of light, right?
    I can tell…takes a long time for something bright to come out of you.
    In fact..I’m still waiting.

  636. CaptainBlack Says:

    Richochet is back…Say something funny!

  637. r8eray Says:

    There will be big changes before camp??

    Really?

    What release Russell hire a GM, Coach, and draft a QB??

  638. M Lonetree Says:

    Who opened the door of the a.m. crew to let the bombast, belligerence and blather of the p.m. crew in here?

  639. Dakota Says:

    Dude Says:
    January 8th, 2010 at 9:09 am
    Jeremy Bates? LOL. Yeah, hed be great!! Really did wonders with SCs offense.
    ___________________________

    Yeah, Jeremy Bates, you know, the guy that called the plays for the Denver Broncos when they had the second most yards in the NFL in 2008 despite injuries to 6 running backs.

  640. CaptainBlack Says:

    Richochet you have used these lines before. You are not creative at all. It is ALWAYS the same. Come on dull boy, peanut. Self-plagiarism is A BORE. Come up with something new or you go on IGNORE.

  641. CaptainBlack Says:

    Bye Ricky DYCK, back to football.

  642. Richochet Says:

    QUESTION/POLL

    4 posters left, most ingloriously, tail between legs, accepting the fact they were board fodder.
    Biggest face flop was OakGlenn aka OakDork. Every prediction pretty much backfired on his inept sorryass.

    Then there was Br ien the Girl Scout. The Human Pinata, who had so many welts he felt the only way to stop the pain was to go completely overboard to get banned. Since then he’s come back under numerous names, all striving to also proudly get banned.

    NorcoBob said ‘Hey, yo, Br ien ..me too. Let me get banned with you. Kind of the lemming effect Smac and Nmandi have perfected.

    Priest had a on-radio meltdown, where listeners realized priest was…well…how shall I say it…’slow’..where he also gave his swan song..said “I’M LEAVING FOREVER..or until next week, whichever comes first..so he came back, tail between legs”

    Now…Captain Black admitted to being a cross poster, as does Alisgod (AIG..who cares whoever)..so..lol..it appears Cappy Dumbass is one of the two.
    Both are slow.
    Guess it doesn’t really matter..does it?

    Stupid is as stupid does.

  643. Dakota Says:

    I take that back, Al did let Kiffin hire Knapp and Cable if I am not mistaken.

    Right idea, wrong crew.

  644. CaptainBlack Says:

    Ricky, what is my other alias? Tell me plagiarizer

  645. Richochet Says:

    CaptainBlack Says:
    January 8th, 2010 at 9:16 am
    Richochet is back…Say something funny!
    ===============
    lol…right on cue.

    Yep..5w

  646. Raider O Says:

    Rich,

    LMAO @ #632,
    you do have a point there.

  647. Mistabrown Says:

    KK, you might the most ignorant man alive.

    AP – Lack of confidence in the economic recovery led employers to shed a more-than-expected 85,000 net jobs in December even as the unemployment rate held at 10 percent. The rate would have been higher if more people had been looking for work instead of leaving the labor force because they can’t find jobs.

  648. Mistabrown Says:

    *be

  649. CaptainBlack Says:

    CaptainBlack Says:
    January 8th, 2010 at 9:28 am
    Ricky, what is my other alias? Tell me plagiarizer
    ____________________________________________________-
    5W…yeah, that would be you, Richochet.

  650. CaptainBlack Says:

    CaptainBlack Says:
    January 8th, 2010 at 9:21 am
    Richochet you have used these lines before. You are not creative at all. It is ALWAYS the same. Come on dull boy, peanut. Self-plagiarism is A BORE. Come up with something new or you go on IGNORE.

  651. RaiderD Says:

    morning nation!

  652. CaptainBlack Says:

    Richochet Says:
    January 8th, 2010 at 9:26 am
    QUESTION/POLL

    4 posters left, most ingloriously, tail between legs, accepting the fact they were board fodder.
    Biggest face flop was OakGlenn aka OakDork. Every prediction pretty much backfired on his inept sorryass.

    Then there was Br ien the Girl Scout. The Human Pinata, who had so many welts he felt the only way to stop the pain was to go completely overboard to get banned. Since then he’s come back under numerous names, all striving to also proudly get banned.

    NorcoBob said ‘Hey, yo, Br ien ..me too. Let me get banned with you. Kind of the lemming effect Smac and Nmandi have perfected.

    Priest had a on-radio meltdown, where listeners realized priest was…well…how shall I say it…’slow’..where he also gave his swan song..said “I’M LEAVING FOREVER..or until next week, whichever comes first..so he came back, tail between legs”

    Now…Captain Black admitted to being a cross poster, as does Alisgod (AIG..who cares whoever)..so..lol..it appears Cappy Dumbass is one of the two.
    Both are slow.
    Guess it doesn’t really matter..does it?

    Stupid is as stupid does.
    __________________________________________

    Richochet The Plagairist. LOL

  653. M Lonetree Says:

    Is it a good thing or a bad thing that the most significant offensive player on the Raiders’ current roster is Robert Gallery.
    The Raiders are a .500 team when he plays, and a .200 team when he can’t suit up.

  654. RaiderD Says:

    damn.. i sense some sexual angst between capblack and ricochet. u guys just need to do it and get it over with. lol.

    relax guys….

  655. CaptainBlack Says:

    Lonetree, I would support replacing the entire O-line with the exception of Henderson.

  656. Richochet Says:

    CaptainBlack Says:
    January 8th, 2010 at 9:28 am
    Ricky, what is my other alias?
    ========================
    Hererra1 last night, you ignorant clown, lol.

    Talk about a human pinata..everyone had fun bi tch slapping your sorryass around like a ping pong ball.

    Oh..next time? SPELL HIS NAME RIGHT, CLOD…geez..is that too much to ask?

    So..AIG or OakDork..both were helpless..both were easy targets…both HAD TO CHANGE THEIR NAME because they were viewed as morons.

    I say it’s AIG…

    HEY..I DON’T BLAME YOU FOR CHANGING YOUR NAME..dude..you admitted YOU BEAT YOUR WIFE.

    You ADMITTED you stay at home while your wife works.

    You admitted your a fatass potato slug.

    Regardless of what name you post as, you’re still an ass…and a fool.

    You didn’t answer me..you felt like such a badass beating up your wife, didn’t you?

  657. 1960AutumnWind Says:

    # Herrera1 Says:
    January 7th, 2010 at 6:46 pm

    Gannon bit the hand that fed him. There are many untruths that are written about this organization, which is why it cannot trust the media and will continue to be private about its business. Mistakes have been made, this is not in question. Some decisions (players) take more time to show results than others. Coaches will only be maintained when they can execute the plan and lever the player strengths. Don’t be fooled. There are many factors contributing to the win/loss records. The main factor contributing to the last 7 years performance is Mr Davis’ attempt to give greater power to his coaches.

    WOW! This is the biggest whooper since the string of excuses for JR. Look maybe AD thinks he is giving more power to choaches but unless you write it into a contract no coach worth that power will come to Oakland. Remember since Allen we have not had anything approaching a GM and Allen was not one either.

  658. Dakota Says:

    here Al, I’ve done the footwork for you, now go out and get one of these guys:

    Leslie Frazier
    Brian Schottenheimer
    Ron Rivera
    Jim Fassel
    Brian Billick
    Dennis Green
    Jim Haslett
    Todd Bowles
    Gregg Williams
    Mike Zimmer
    Kevin Gilbride
    Karl Dorrell
    Mike Heimerdinger
    Jim Harbaugh
    Jeremy Bates

  659. CaptainBlack Says:

    From that Self Plagiarist Richochet, “You admitted your a fatass potato slug.” Lol “your.” You IGNANT fluck! You cut and paste fake!

  660. DMAC Says:

    Show Harbaugh the $$$$$$ Uncle Al!!!!

  661. Dude Says:

    Dakota,

    Must be fun just throwing out names most of which you know nothing about and most of whom would laugh into the phone if Al Davis ever called.

    Oh and Jeremey Bates is the only guy in 10 years to reduce SCs offense to a middle of the road avg unit. But yeah, sign him up. My guess, you couldnt pick Jeremy Bates out of a crowd of 2, yet here you are touting him for a head coaching gig. Brilliant!!!

  662. CaptainBlack Says:

    DMAC, why Harbaugh?

  663. RaiderD Says:

    dakota you really think billick is a possibility?

    i would not mind having him in the coaching spot.

  664. DMAC Says:

    Cable or Harbaugh?

  665. Lucifer-666 Says:

    666

  666. CaptainBlack Says:

    I understand, but change for the sake of change? Harbaugh must possess some skills to be a HC? No?

  667. CaptainBlack Says:

    its the debil

  668. Lucifer-666 Says:

    Come on are you freaking serious like its going to matter who coaches this team as long as that 80 year old drooling machine is in control?

  669. Dakota Says:

    Dude Says:
    January 8th, 2010 at 9:57 am
    Dakota,

    Must be fun just throwing out names most of which you know nothing about and most of whom would laugh into the phone if Al Davis ever called.

    Oh and Jeremey Bates is the only guy in 10 years to reduce SCs offense to a middle of the road avg unit. But yeah, sign him up. My guess, you couldnt pick Jeremy Bates out of a crowd of 2, yet here you are touting him for a head coaching gig. Brilliant!!!
    ___________________________________

    LMAO, don’t project your ignorance on me. Just because you are clueless it doesn’t mean the rest of us are.

  670. RaiderD Says:

    Cap,
    thats why i would like to see billick come to the raiders.
    i just hope he can look past all the hoopla in the media and decide to take on a “hopeless” situation.

  671. exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:

    Happy 75th Birthday Elvis !!

  672. Lucifer-666 Says:

    I have been on strike for two years now I have not bought a ticket or any Raider paraphernalia and I will not spend another cent on my beloved team until that senile old man gives up or croaks.

    I know I am not the only one who feels this way because I saw the empty seats on Sunday!

  673. CaptainBlack Says:

    I believe he would if Al wanted him. Billick wants to be a HC again. But Billick is an offensive guy, but while he was HC of The Ravens, their offense sucked. He also missed on several QBs. So I don’t know if he is the answer. The guy I would have liked as HC was Rex Ryan. Hire him a good OC, and we not the Jets would be in the playoffs.

  674. DMAC Says:

    After watching McClain last night, I guess he’s not fast enough for Al to draft. Too bad, because I thought he could really help this team stop the run.

  675. CaptainBlack Says:

    CaptainBlack Says:
    January 8th, 2010 at 9:53 am
    From that Self Plagiarist Richochet, “You admitted your a fatass potato slug.” Lol “your.” You IGNANT fluck! You cut and paste fake!
    ____________________________________

    Richochet, your 5W stinker thinker needs to be replaced. LoL

  676. Dakota Says:

    DMAC Says:
    January 8th, 2010 at 10:06 am
    After watching McClain last night, I guess he’s not fast enough for Al to draft. Too bad, because I thought he could really help this team stop the run.
    _____________________

    I noticed that too…he was sick in the days leading up to the game…maybe that had something to do with it?

  677. Dude Says:

    Dakota,

    Good answer. Basically confirms the fact that you dont know a thing about most of your list. Again, well done.

  678. Dakota Says:

    DMAC Says:
    January 8th, 2010 at 10:06 am
    After watching McClain last night, I guess he’s not fast enough for Al to draft. Too bad, because I thought he could really help this team stop the run.
    _____________________

    I noticed that too…he was sick in the days leading up to the game…maybe that had something to do with it?

  679. CaptainBlack Says:

    CaptainBlack Says:
    January 8th, 2010 at 9:53 am
    From that Self Plagiarist Richochet, “You admitted your a fatass potato slug.” Lol “your.” You IGNANT fluck! You cut and paste fake!
    ____________________________________

    Richochet, your 5W stinker thinker needs to be replaced. LoL

  680. Dakota Says:

    DMAC Says:
    January 8th, 2010 at 10:06 am
    After watching McClain last night, I guess he’s not fast enough for Al to draft. Too bad, because I thought he could really help this team stop the run.
    _____________________

    I noticed that too…he was sick in the days leading up to the game…maybe that had something to do with it?

  681. CaptainBlack Says:

    CaptainBlack Says:
    January 8th, 2010 at 9:53 am
    From that Self Plagiarist Richochet, “You admitted your a fatass potato slug.” Lol “your.” You IGNANT fluck! You cut and paste fake!
    ____________________________________

    Richochet, your 5W stinker thinker needs to be replaced. LoL

  682. Dakota Says:

    DMAC Says:
    January 8th, 2010 at 10:06 am
    After watching McClain last night, I guess he’s not fast enough for Al to draft. Too bad, because I thought he could really help this team stop the run.
    _____________________

    I noticed that too…he was sick in the days leading up to the game…maybe that had something to do with it?

  683. Dakota Says:

    DMAC Says:
    January 8th, 2010 at 10:06 am
    After watching McClain last night, I guess he’s not fast enough for Al to draft. Too bad, because I thought he could really help this team stop the run.
    _____________________

    I noticed that too…he was sick in the days leading up to the game…maybe that had something to do with it?

  684. CaptainBlack Says:

    CaptainBlack Says:
    January 8th, 2010 at 9:53 am
    From that Self Plagiarist Richochet, “You admitted your a fatass potato slug.” Lol “your.” You IGNANT fluck! You cut and paste fake!
    ____________________________________

    Richochet, your 5W stinker thinker needs to be replaced. LoL

  685. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Leslie Frazier
    Brian Schottenheimer
    Ron Rivera
    Jim Fassel
    Brian Billick
    Dennis Green
    Jim Haslett
    Todd Bowles
    Gregg Williams
    Mike Zimmer
    Kevin Gilbride
    Karl Dorrell
    Mike Heimerdinger
    Jim Harbaugh

    Come on Al, one of these guys will be willing to take the job and they are ALL better than the Wife-Beating Buffoon!

    ***

    nice list. I bet of those candidates only Fassel or Gilbride would work for Al!

  686. CaptainBlack Says:

    CaptainBlack Says:
    January 8th, 2010 at 9:53 am
    From that Self Plagiarist Richochet, “You admitted your a fatass potato slug.” Lol “your.” You IGNANT fluck! You cut and paste fake!
    ____________________________________

    Richochet, your 5W stinker thinker needs to be replaced. LoL

  687. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    Trade DMAC for Elvis!

  688. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    Trade DMAC for Elvis!

  689. CaptainBlack Says:

    CaptainBlack Says:
    January 8th, 2010 at 9:53 am
    From that Self Plagiarist Richochet, “You admitted your a fatass potato slug.” Lol “your.” You IGNANT fluck! You cut and paste fake!
    ____________________________________

    Richochet, your 5W stinker thinker needs to be replaced. LoL

  690. Dakota Says:

    DMAC Says:
    January 8th, 2010 at 10:06 am
    After watching McClain last night, I guess he’s not fast enough for Al to draft. Too bad, because I thought he could really help this team stop the run.
    _____________________

    I noticed that too…he was sick in the days leading up to the game…maybe that had something to do with it?

  691. Dakota Says:

    DMAC Says:
    January 8th, 2010 at 10:06 am
    After watching McClain last night, I guess he’s not fast enough for Al to draft. Too bad, because I thought he could really help this team stop the run.
    _____________________

    I noticed that too…he was sick in the days leading up to the game…maybe that had something to do with it?

  692. Dakota Says:

    DMAC Says:
    January 8th, 2010 at 10:06 am
    After watching McClain last night, I guess he’s not fast enough for Al to draft. Too bad, because I thought he could really help this team stop the run.
    _____________________

    I noticed that too…he was sick in the days leading up to the game…maybe that had something to do with it?

  693. Dakota Says:

    DMAC Says:
    January 8th, 2010 at 10:06 am
    After watching McClain last night, I guess he’s not fast enough for Al to draft. Too bad, because I thought he could really help this team stop the run.
    _____________________

    I noticed that too…he was sick in the days leading up to the game…maybe that had something to do with it?

  694. Dakota Says:

    DMAC Says:
    January 8th, 2010 at 10:06 am
    After watching McClain last night, I guess he’s not fast enough for Al to draft. Too bad, because I thought he could really help this team stop the run.
    _____________________

    I noticed that too…he was sick in the days leading up to the game…maybe that had something to do with it?

  695. Dakota Says:

    DMAC Says:
    January 8th, 2010 at 10:06 am
    After watching McClain last night, I guess he’s not fast enough for Al to draft. Too bad, because I thought he could really help this team stop the run.
    _____________________

    I noticed that too…he was sick in the days leading up to the game…maybe that had something to do with it?

  696. Dakota Says:

    DMAC Says:
    January 8th, 2010 at 10:06 am
    After watching McClain last night, I guess he’s not fast enough for Al to draft. Too bad, because I thought he could really help this team stop the run.
    _____________________

    I noticed that too…he was sick in the days leading up to the game…maybe that had something to do with it?

  697. Dakota Says:

    DMAC Says:
    January 8th, 2010 at 10:06 am
    After watching McClain last night, I guess he’s not fast enough for Al to draft. Too bad, because I thought he could really help this team stop the run.
    _____________________

    I noticed that too…he was sick in the days leading up to the game…maybe that had something to do with it?

  698. Dude Says:

    LOL. Thanks for confirming you know nothing about most of the guys on your list Dakota!! What does a guy do when he doesnt have an answer? Insults to try and hide the fact. Jeremy Bates. LOL!!!

  699. Dude Says:

    Dakota,

    Good answer. Basically confirms the fact that you dont know a thing about most of your list. Again, well done.

  700. CaptainBlack Says:

    CaptainBlack Says:
    January 8th, 2010 at 9:53 am
    From that Self Plagiarist Richochet, “You admitted your a fatass potato slug.” Lol “your.” You IGNANT fluck! You cut and paste fake!
    ____________________________________

    Richochet, your 5W stinker thinker needs to be replaced. LoL

  701. CaptainBlack Says:

    CaptainBlack Says:
    January 8th, 2010 at 9:53 am
    From that Self Plagiarist Richochet, “You admitted your a fatass potato slug.” Lol “your.” You IGNANT fluck! You cut and paste fake!
    ____________________________________

    Richochet, your 5W stinker thinker needs to be replaced. LoL

  702. La Milicia Negra Says:

    http://www.baconorbeercan.com/

  703. Dude Says:

    Dakota,

    Good answer. Basically confirms thr fact that you dont know a thing about most of your list. Again, well done.

  704. CaptainBlack Says:

    CaptainBlack Says:
    January 8th, 2010 at 9:53 am
    From that Self Plagiarist Richochet, “You admitted your a fatass potato slug.” Lol “your.” You IGNANT fluck! You cut and paste fake!
    ____________________________________

    Richochet, your 5W stinker thinker needs to be replaced. LoL

  705. La Milicia Negra Says:

    —”FOX Sports’ Jay Glazer reports that the Seahawks have fired head coach Jim Mora. The biggest surprise here is that the move comes before Seattle hired its new general manager. Mora, who ultimately got just one year on the job after Mike Holmgren’s temporary retirement, directed the Seahawks to a 5-11 record. Since-departed GM Tim Ruskell’s out-of-whack priorities, especially in the draft, doomed Mora from the start, but his game-day decisions and player usage were also questionable. He still shouldn’t have trouble resurfacing as a DBs coach or defensive coordinator.”—

    Id like as a DC

  706. raiderzmaverick Says:

    # Lucifer-666 Says:
    January 8th, 2010 at 9:59 am

    666
    ———————
    OH NO….AL DAVIS HAS COME INTO THE RAIDERS CHAT…..

  707. DKnight007 Says:

    Dakota Says:
    January 8th, 2010 at 10:35 am
    DMAC Says:
    January 8th, 2010 at 10:06 am
    After watching McClain last night, I guess he’s not fast enough for Al to draft. Too bad, because I thought he could really help this team stop the run.
    _____________________

    I noticed that too…he was sick in the days leading up to the game…maybe that had something to do with it?

    ^^^^^^^^^
    I think McClain will run a 4.6-4.7 40 at the Combine and his campus workouts. That is plenty fast enough for a LB IMO.

  708. M Lonetree Says:

    where’s KooKell to re-post the Raiders won-loss record over the past seven years?

    oh well, here’s another list

    Belicheats – 3-3 in Super Bowls
    Buffies – 0-4 in Super Bowls and haven’t made playoffs for a decade
    Porpoises – haven’t won a Super Bowl in a third of a century, haven’t even been in one in a quarter century
    Gang Green – haven’t been in a Super Bowl since the final days of the Lyndon Johnson administration

    Crows – (see Marquez Pope)
    Bungles – haven’t won a playoff game since Bo Jackson was still playing.
    Earthtones – never been there
    Steelboys – lotsa success in the Super Bowl

    Horses – one old SB victory and one new SB victory with nothing in between
    Tex – nada
    Jags – ditto
    Hou-Tenn – Mike Jones at the one yard line

    Raiders – 3-2 in Super Bowls, Immaculated out of one, Lytled out of another, tucked out of another and Callahaned out of the most recent a few years back.
    Donks – Caballo Dientes finally got him some after 14 years of trying (as the management cheated the system)
    Bolts – nada
    Chefs – haven’t been to Super Bowl since the Nixon days.

    Gints – done okay over the past coupla decades
    Cowgirls – no playoff victories in fourteen years
    Iggles – bridesmaids.
    Skins – a delightful destruction of the Donks and a delightful crumbling under the Raiders

    Pack – between Max McGee and Reggie White was thirty years. Another dozen since.
    Det – not a chance
    Chi – one transcendent wasting of the Patsies a quarter century ago.
    Viks – Bud Grant has been outta the game a long long time and the record is still the same

    Bucs – (see Callahan)
    Aints – zero
    Pants – one and done
    Falcs – are you kiddin’ me?

    Lambs – a good two year run a decade ago and then there was Vince Ferragamo in the mists of time.
    Gulls – they mighta been jobbed but that was it over their entire history
    Cards – it was entertaining except for the single most stupendous and disappointing last play of a half that ever has occured in a championship game.
    Whiners – F%$K

  709. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Jay Glazer reports that the Seahawks have fired head coach Jim Mora.

    ***

    thats means Greg Knapp, Justin Griffith & Louis Rankin could be available.

    maybe they could help get our run game back out of the sewer? thanks Tommy!

  710. Dakota Says:

    Dude Says:
    January 8th, 2010 at 10:35 am
    Dakota,

    Good answer. Basically confirms the fact that you dont know a thing about most of your list. Again, well done.
    ________________________________

    If you don’t know anything about the men on that list that is your problem, not mine. I am not going to list each man’s resume. If you have a specific question, then just ask. I am always here to educate clueless people like yourself.

  711. DMAC Says:

    Not for Al though.

  712. Raider O Says:

    We need one of these ILBs:
    1- R McClain
    2- Spikes
    3- Micah Johnson
    4- Borie lee

  713. DMAC Says:

    McClain is the man!

  714. RaiderRockstar Says:

    O,

    I don’t see Frantz Joseph on your list of MLB’s

    what gives???

  715. Plunketthead Says:

    PFT

    Belichick sings praises of Burgess
    Posted by Michael David Smith on January 8, 2010 10:50 AM ET
    Derrick Burgess was one of the four players sent home for showing up late to Patriots practice last month. But that doesn’t mean Bill Belichick is unhappy with Burgess.

    In assessing his team for the media, Belichick called Burgess one of the best defensive players the Patriots have had during Belichick’s time in New England.

    “Derrick really plays consistently on everything and he’s done an excellent job in the running game for us, probably as good as we’ve had as a run player and a pass rusher,” Belichick said, per the Boston Herald.

    Burgess had just five sacks this season, a somewhat disappointing total for a player who had 16 in his best season with the Raiders, but Belichick said that doesn’t tell the whole story of what Burgess does on the field.

    “When they run the ball, he does a good job,” Belichick said. “When they throw the ball, he’s competitive on the pass rush. I think sometimes guys lean a little more toward one than the other, but I’d say overall his play has been consistent on a down-after-down basis at a position that everybody kind of focuses on the passing part of it.”

  716. Dakota Says:

    Rolando McClain…doesn’t look all that impressive actually:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=miJwMCgaxKo

  717. Plunketthead Says:

    Belicheat is trying to save face for getting ripped off by Al, again.

  718. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Josh McCown, Daunte Culpepper & Kerry Collins could all be available this offseason.

    plus Aaron Brooks, Andrew Walter & Tui are already standing in the unemployment line …

    Anybody want to take a trip down memory lane?

    who am I kidding? start JaWalrus!

    4000 yards & 30+ TD’s in his 4th NFL season!

  719. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Belichick sung the praises of Tommy Kelly too, remember?

    LOL

    what a mastermind!

  720. Raider O Says:

    RR,

    LMAO

    He is not even in the NFL!

  721. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Rams QB’s Bulger, Boller & Null threw for a combined 11 TD passes & 21 INT’s in 2009.

    sacked 44 times. 5 fumbles, losing 2 of them

    Raider QB’s Russell, Gradkowski & Frye threw for a combined 10 TD passes & 18 INT’s in 2009.

    sacked 49 times. 12 fumbles, losing 8 of them

    LOL. the Rams will do something in the offseason about thier QB situation. Will the Raiders???

  722. Dakota Says:

    M,

    Your list gives me zero comfort. I don’t care if there are a lot of other pissed off fans, I just care about the Raiders Quarter-century SB victory drought.

  723. Dakota Says:

    Rockstar,

    Cable is a great HC and Russell is a great QB and Al is a great GM!

    Get over it!

    How’s ya mutha?

  724. r8eray Says:

    Herrera was talking about big changes before training camp last night….Jim Mora as Offensive Coach and Michael Vick as QB!?!?!!

  725. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Can you guys believe the sob fest that’s going on right now for Jim Mora Jr on ESPN and NFLN? He was 5-11. Tom Cable is going to get fired monday for having the same record, and the media will say he deserved it. Meanwhile, Mora was treated unfairly. Today’s sports media, I swear. Such a circle jerk. Bottom line: Mora’s part of a team. A fraternity of coaches who once held a clip board for Bill Walsh. Mora Jr. was only good because the media said he was good. One thing I’ll give to Al, at least he uses his own brain to decide on his head coach. Unfortunately, his brain today consists of nothing more than water and string of spaghetti.

  726. DMAC Says:

    I wouldn’t mind having Ryans in the middle. He’s a free agent.
    http://www.footballsfuture.com/2010/fa/lb.html

  727. M Lonetree Says:

    Who was the Raider staff member accompanying JaFranchise to Vegas?

  728. RaiderD Says:

    probably javon walker.

  729. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Plunkethead, where did Al rip Belichick off?

  730. RaiderD Says:

    so they can both spray pick champagne on people at the club.

  731. RaiderD Says:

    *pink

  732. new englandraider Says:

    false start # 74 offense 5 yard penalty repeat 3rd down

  733. DMAC Says:

    Hanson.

  734. r8eray Says:

    We be clubin!

  735. DMAC Says:

    Make it rain BIOTCH!

  736. DMAC Says:

    No it wasn’t a Raider represenative. It was Pacman and Jaskittle!

  737. Dakota Says:

    M Lonetree Says:
    January 8th, 2010 at 11:02 am
    Who was the Raider staff member accompanying JaFranchise to Vegas?
    _____________________________

    My guess is Ice Cube drove him there and then Alyssa Milano kept him busy.

  738. M Lonetree Says:

    RaiderD,

    yeah, coulda been Javon.
    I was thinking perhaps it was a staffer who would follow Russell around scooping up the dollars he drops while making it rain, and breaking into his room to steal and pawn his bling. A way of recouping some of the loss.

  739. La Milicia Negra Says:

    # RaiderRockstar Says:
    January 8th, 2010 at 10:49 am

    who am I kidding? start JaWalrus!

    4000 yards & 30+ TD’s in his 4th NFL season!
    ________________________________________________________

    is that returned yards, and INT TDs??

  740. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Dakota, Ice Cube rarely goes out. He’s a family man. Talk to anyone in L.A. who knows an iota about the hip hop scene, who does what, etc. Cube is one of the most serious rappers in the industry. Never goes out. Even when he was younger he never went out. “Clubbin’” was a song. It’s fiction.

  741. RaiderD Says:

    nah,

    if anything there wasnt a staffer there until AL heard the outrage caused by JRuss going to vegas caused. then he sent someone out. just another way to cushion his “baby.”

  742. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    Trade DMAC for Jim Mora!

  743. Dakota Says:

    The Real MaddenRaider Says:
    January 8th, 2010 at 11:10 am
    Dakota, Ice Cube rarely goes out. He’s a family man. Talk to anyone in L.A. who knows an iota about the hip hop scene, who does what, etc. Cube is one of the most serious rappers in the industry. Never goes out. Even when he was younger he never went out. “Clubbin’” was a song. It’s fiction.
    ________________________

    That’s why he just dropped him off at the hotel…Milano took care of the rest!

  744. RaiderRockstar Says:

    trade Russell to Montreal for Marc Trestman!

  745. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Ice Cube wouldn’t be caught dead kicking it with Russell.

  746. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Russell’s not going anywhere. Read the writing on the wall. I told all of you weeks ago that Cable would be gone and Russell would be staying. You guys denied and denies, which is understandable. But it looks like I’m going to be right.

  747. DMAC Says:

    I’m telling you it was Pacman and Jaskittle.

  748. r8eray Says:

    I see a BIG family reunion coming soon to Oakland!!!!

    Tom Cable, Jim Mora, Greg Knapp and Michael Vick!!!

  749. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Dakota,

    Milano married David Bugliari in August.

    perhaps you’re talking about one of the Kardashians?

  750. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Al never gives up on his scholarship players. Look how long he kept Jett, people like that. He drafted Russell number one overall. Do not hold your breath for Russell to be out of a Raider uniform. We may get a coach with the gall to bench him here and there, but he’s going to be here and he’ll likely be our starting QB going into every season for at least the next 3 years.

  751. La Milicia Negra Says:

    # Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
    January 8th, 2010 at 11:11 am

    Trade DMAC for Jim Mora!
    _______________________________________________________

    Jim Mora has been fired, he is ours to get…

  752. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    Sign Cato June.

  753. La Milicia Negra Says:

    # RaiderRockstar Says:
    January 8th, 2010 at 11:12 am

    trade Russell to Montreal for Marc Trestman!
    ________________________________________________________

    absolutely, Trestman as OC would be the bomb!

  754. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    Or Larry Foote.

  755. Dakota Says:

    Lol, like marriage would stop her

  756. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Listen to these guys on NFLN.

    “Jim Mora has been fired. I repeat, Jim Mora….has been fired”.

    As if he died in a plane accident!

    These guys are a joke!

  757. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    My condolences and prayers to the Mora family. In my view, his firing will only make Americans stronger. Yes, they’ve tested our resolve by firing Mora, but we as Americans will persevere. We will unite. And we will prevail.

  758. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Dakota,

    I know how much you dispise Tom Cable and rightfully so.

    would you rather have Cable at HC with Gradkowski, Losman & Frye competing at QB

    or…

    Gilbride/Fassel at HC with Russell starting 16 games next year?

    Either way I don’t see us winning more than 5 games!

  759. La Milicia Negra Says:

    eff cato june, been bad for 3 seasons, havent even a tackle this season

  760. La Milicia Negra Says:

    # RaiderRockstar Says:
    January 8th, 2010 at 11:20 am

    Dakota,

    I know how much you dispise Tom Cable and rightfully so.

    would you rather have Cable at HC with Gradkowski, Losman & Frye competing at QB

    or…

    Gilbride/Fassel at HC with Russell starting 16 games next year?

    Either way I don’t see us winning more than 5 games!
    ______________________________________________________

    I dont like Cable either, but with Trestman as OC and as playcaller i would love to go for option #1

  761. Dakota Says:

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    January 8th, 2010 at 11:20 am
    Dakota,

    I know how much you dispise Tom Cable and rightfully so.

    would you rather have Cable at HC with Gradkowski, Losman & Frye competing at QB

    or…

    Gilbride/Fassel at HC with Russell starting 16 games next year?

    Either way I don’t see us winning more than 5 games!
    ________________________________

    NONE OF THE ABOVE!!!!!!

  762. DMAC Says:

    Cato June is garbage. Sign Ryans.

  763. RaiderRockstar Says:

    MR,

    Jim Mora Jr. will go climb another mountain with commish Roger Goodell and find another job VERY SOON…

  764. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    RockStar, that’s a misleading question, because both scenarios are bad. You’re basically asking us if we’d rather have a rotten potato, or a rotten apple.

    If Gilbride or Fassell start Russell all year, it will prove they are puppets. Any real coach will replace Russell as a starter before he unpacks his bags. Cable has proven to be a puppet. He started Russell late into the season when he knew Russell wasn’t ready. We need a new coach, no matter what. Frankly, I think Gilbride and Fassell will be puppets, too. We need a young coach who will stab Davis in the back. Sure he won’t last, but if we get one 9-7 season out of him, it will be worth it.

  765. M Lonetree Says:

    Delving into the excreta of another organization (Mora Jr) would only heighten the entropy in Raiderland.

  766. DMAC Says:

    Harbaugh?

  767. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Spain has just announced they will not help us in our fight to get Jim Mora a job in the NFL. What else is new?

  768. RaiderRockstar Says:

    We need a young coach who will stab Davis in the back. Sure he won’t last, but if we get one 9-7 season out of him, it will be worth it.

    ***

    LOL! very true.

    I mean how many Top 10 draft picks can this team afford, especially with the decline in tix sales ???

  769. Dakota Says:

    If he stays Tom Cable must be stripped of all player-personnel decisions regarding the offensive line and of his offensive coordinator duties.

    Let him wear the headset and coach the o-line during the week…maaaaybe call a timeout or two during the games…but that is all!

  770. RaiderRockstar Says:

    time to get back to work. later gents!

  771. RaiderRockstar Says:

    time to get back to work. later gents!

  772. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    In the past 20 years we’ve only succeeded with Gruden. We have to hope Al will hire a young guy, thinking he’s loyal. There’s no potential HC under 40 on the planet who would be loyal to Al, anyway. So anyone under 40 is a good idea. It’ll be a trainwreck, but there’ll be a change of culture and a new attitude, and some wins. Hopefully we get just one winning season out of it before the coach is shipped off.

  773. Dakota Says:

    Jan. 8 – 2:14 pm et
    A league source tells the National Football Post that Marc Trestman of the CFL’s Montreal Allouettes is a “strong candidate” to be the Raiders’ next head coach.

    Trestman has extensive NFL experience on the assistant level and has been linked to the Raiders before. He also coordinated Oakland’s offense in 2002, leading the unit to a No. 1 overall ranking. Trestman, however, is signed with Montreal through 2012, and it’s unclear if he’d break that contract. Jan. 8 – 2:14 pm et
    Source: National Football Post

  774. M Lonetree Says:

    Dakota,

    yeah the Cable Guy could do that. Minimally. Although he could still screw up gameday.
    Cable seems to have the respect of some players.

    As far as KC I don’t get it. Haley was supposedly some great O guru. Now Fat Charlie comes aboard to take that away. I doubt Haley is repected by his team so what exactly is he gonna do?

  775. Dakota Says:

    I would rather have Cable over Mora Jr…….and Art Shell…..and Robiskie…..and Bugel, White, and Callahan….

  776. Dakota Says:

    M Lonetree Says:
    January 8th, 2010 at 11:31 am
    Dakota,

    yeah the Cable Guy could do that. Minimally. Although he could still screw up gameday.
    _________________________

    Okay, he also does not get to decide which players get to play…other than who plays QB.

    Does that help?

  777. Dakota Says:

    M Lonetree Says:
    January 8th, 2010 at 11:31 am
    Dakota,

    yeah the Cable Guy could do that. Minimally. Although he could still screw up gameday.
    _________________________

    Okay, he also does not get to decide which players get to play…other than who plays QB.

    Does that help?

  778. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Cable’s a puppet, Dakota. I know he acts tough, but he can’t stand up to Al. And that’s all that counts.

  779. Dakota Says:

    M Lonetree Says:
    January 8th, 2010 at 11:31 am
    Dakota,

    yeah the Cable Guy could do that. Minimally. Although he could still screw up gameday.
    _________________________

    Okay, he also does not get to decide which players get to play…other than who plays QB.

    Does that help?

  780. Dakota Says:

    Uh-oh….technical difficulties once again….

  781. new englandraider Says:

    AGAIN?

  782. M Lonetree Says:

    This site is haunted.

  783. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Trestman = puppet. Might as well keep Cable. I will say this about Trestman, he’ll do more to develop Russell and might be able to get more out of his talent than Cable did. But a puppet is a puppet. And Davis puppets = 5-11, one way or another. Trestman = Norv Turner, really.

  784. new englandraider Says:

    you’re posting your comments too quickly

  785. new englandraider Says:

    every time gannon came of the field if we didn’t score he would wig the fug out on trestman

  786. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    From the Chi Sun Times:

    “Middle linebacker Brian Urlacher ($10.32 million), defensive tackle Tommie Harris ($8.78 million), outside linebacker Lance Briggs ($7.36 million), defensive end Alex Brown ($6.22 million) and cornerbacks Nathan Vasher ($4.91 million) and Charles Tillman ($4.81 million) occupy six of the top eight salary-cap slots on the team, but only one of those (Briggs) has earned a Pro Bowl spot in the last two seasons.

    If the Bears are going to clear some space or acquire draft picks, according to two team executives, the aforementioned players are the most obvious targets.”

    :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::

    Any of the four non-CBs would help – AL DUMP THE PICK(S)!

  787. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    I’m not getting the message. Maybe you guys really are posting too quickly.

  788. Dakota Says:

    I’ll take a puppet that has some football sense over the current Cable puppet.

  789. new englandraider Says:

    maddenraider
    lol. i didn’t get that message. was just being facetious

  790. M Lonetree Says:

    AD has broken the hiring barriers previously with Flores and Shell, time to break the glass ceiling. Time to hire a female HC.

  791. new englandraider Says:

    granted tom cable is not a good head coach. i get that. but is it a good idea to change the offense again with jruss at qb? if jruss is going to be forced upon us, and he hasn’t learned the existing playbook, we r in some deep shyt

  792. new englandraider Says:

    lmfaooooo
    jim rome playing the ryan leaf sound bite. “don’t talk to me alright… knock it off”‘

  793. 408RAIDER Says:

    M

    A female? Hmmmm….

  794. new englandraider Says:

    how about an asian hc. my vote for kawkami

  795. Zymurge Says:

    Looking back at the success under Gruden, in my mind the real reason was Callahan. At that point he was OL coach and then non-play calling OC. In 2000-2001 they had probably their best blocking since the days of Shell/Upshaw. One of the key reasons that Gannon was so successful was that he had an awful lot of time to pick the coverages apart. Hence the bit about only having 8 plays (which is probably more like 8 bases, each with a bunch of audibles and adjustments off them based on what the defense showed).

    As Callahan moved further up the food chain, he had less focus on the OL coaching, and the blocking diminished accordingly. In the 2002 SB, Gannon was shown to be a lot more mortal with the lack of time and a secondary that knew what his adjustments would be.

    I see the same pattern over the last couple of years. When Cable was focused on the OL, the group over-achieved and the running game benefitted. As he’s taken on HC as well as play calling, the line hasn’t played as well. For example, Henderson was a world beater at the end of ‘08 but was pretty average in ‘09.

    I believe that Cable could do well if he stayed on as HC with the following caveats, mainly that he does what he does best and delegates the rest:
    - Team motivator, culture setter
    - Spends significant time on mentoring his ZBS and reestablishing the run blocking
    - Is allowed to play the guys who are executing best in practice and on game day, as he did more of in the last half of this season.
    - Brings on a true OC that designs the system and calls the plays on game day
    - Leaves the entire defense to Marshall and doesn’t lose attention to that side of the ball

  796. new englandraider Says:

    what is sanjay lal’s ethnicity??????????????

  797. Dakota Says:

    M Lonetree Says:
    January 8th, 2010 at 11:43 am
    AD has broken the hiring barriers previously with Flores and Shell, time to break the glass ceiling. Time to hire a female HC.
    ++++++++++++++++++++++++

    I nominate this one:

    http://images.google.com/images?hl=en&safe=off&rls=com.microsoft%3Aen-US&rlz=1I7DMUS_en&um=1&sa=1&q=hot+football+chick&aq=f&oq=&aqi=&start=0

  798. El Tato Says:

    How about Art Shell

  799. El Tato Says:

    Jerry McDonald for HC

  800. DMAC Says:

    Let I love NY run the team!

  801. El Tato Says:

    or MaddenRaider for HC

  802. new englandraider Says:

    zymurge
    let us not sugarcoat anything. fuggin henderson was decent 1st half of year, and horrible the 2nd half.

  803. Dakota Says:

    Oooops…meant this one:

    http://mycampustalk.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/hot-sexy-girl-playing-american-football.jpg

  804. new englandraider Says:

    watch al do something stupid come draft day. instead of trading down 3 spots to get out of the top 10, he will just “pass” 3x instead of picking up an additional draft pick. WATCH

  805. M Lonetree Says:

    Dakota,

    now that’s what I’m talkin’ ’bout. Would look damned fine gettin’ off the bus (the Raider way).

  806. The Big Banana Says:

    # M Lonetree Says:
    January 8th, 2010 at 11:43 am

    AD has broken the hiring barriers previously with Flores and Shell, time to break the glass ceiling. Time to hire a female HC.
    =================================================
    LOL. Alyssa Milano!

  807. El Tato Says:

    Latest Madden videogame update just decreased Asomugha, Greg Ellis and Mike Mitchell ratings (and added John Wade to the team)

  808. Dakota Says:

    new englandraider Says:
    January 8th, 2010 at 11:51 am
    watch al do something stupid come draft day. instead of trading down 3 spots to get out of the top 10, he will just “pass” 3x instead of picking up an additional draft pick. WATCH
    ____________

    Or he will trade up to #4 and draft someone he could have had at #29.

  809. new englandraider Says:

    amy trask

  810. new englandraider Says:

    dakota
    shyt i didn’t even think of that. thats very possible as well

  811. El Tato Says:

    Or he will trade up to #4 and draft someone he could have had at #29.

    ——————————————

    Thats an option always in Raiderland

  812. Dakota Says:

    M Lonetree Says:
    January 8th, 2010 at 11:52 am
    Dakota,

    now that’s what I’m talkin’ ’bout. Would look damned fine gettin’ off the bus (the Raider way).
    ________________________

    I have inside information that she performed VERY well at the WonderLICK.

  813. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Amy Trask? Why not hire a smart female?

  814. new englandraider Says:

    may as well just pass until the 3rd round starts

  815. El Tato Says:

    B O R I N G

    When are we going to start to release players?

  816. new englandraider Says:

    dakota
    LMFAOOOOOOOOOOOO. the wonderlick

  817. new englandraider Says:

    espera-te

  818. Zymurge Says:

    > zymurge
    let us not sugarcoat anything. fuggin henderson was decent 1st half of year, and horrible the 2nd half.

    —–

    I think it’s fair to say that his worst games came when he had someone other than Gallery next to him at LG. All OLs, and maybe more so those in the ZBS, are all about synergy. The collective talent makes those around them better.

    Either way, I think we can all agree that he regressed from what he showed us at the end of last season. My belief is that it’s directly related to less OL focus from Cable.

  819. 408RAIDER Says:

    Pete Carroll gonna bail on usc???

  820. Florida Pete Says:

    Kirk Morrison, Oakland Raiders (28)
    Morrison has been a fixture for in the Raiders starting lineup for his entire five year career now. Morrison is as sure a tackler as any in the league, amassing 100 for his 5th straight year. He doesn’t make many big plays from MIKE linebacker, but is the most consistent down-to-down player the Raiders have. Of all their priorities this season, Seymour and Morrison should be 1-2 on the list, respectively. If they lose Morrison, the porous run defense will become that much worse.

    ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::

    wow…

    i see Morrision has his own PR guy…

    and he’s good…

    (the PR guy that is)…

  821. new englandraider Says:

    el tato
    did i spell that right????????

  822. Dakota Says:

    The Real MaddenRaider Says:
    January 8th, 2010 at 11:55 am
    Amy Trask? Why not hire a smart female?

    __________________

    She wanted to hire Belichick….must not be too dumb.

    My question would be, why the hell does she have any input whatsoever in how will or will not be our HC?

    GET A GM AL!!!!!

  823. El Tato Says:

    “Morrison is as sure a tackler as any in the league, amassing 100 for his 5th straight year. He doesn’t make many big plays from MIKE linebacker, but is the most consistent down-to-down player the Raiders have. If they lose Morrison, the porous run defense will become that much worse.”

    ————————————————

    LMFAO

  824. El Tato Says:

    # new englandraider Says:
    January 8th, 2010 at 11:57 am

    el tato
    did i spell that right????????

    ————————————

    Yes, “esperate”

  825. Dakota Says:

    Correction:

    She wanted to hire Belichick….must not be too dumb.

    My question would be, why the hell does she have any input whatsoever in WHO will or will not be our HC?

    GET A GM AL!!!!!

  826. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Dakota,

    How do you know Trask wanted Belichick?

    How can you say that anyone who has worked for Al Davis throughout the past 7 years, without either taking some kind of a stand or jumping ship, is smart? There isn’t one single smart person in this organization right now.

  827. new englandraider Says:

    morrison sux. flat out horrible. said it a million and one times. dude never in the right spot. always sucked into the line. always running up one of the dlinemans aSSes. rather keep howard. if we do keep cpt kirk he MUST be moved outside

  828. Florida Pete Says:

    La Milicia Negra Says:
    January 8th, 2010 at 11:17 am
    # Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
    January 8th, 2010 at 11:11 am

    Trade DMAC for Jim Mora!
    _______________________________________________________

    Jim Mora has been fired, he is ours to get…

    ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::

    just because he is no longer with seattle doesn’t mean we can’t trade Dmac for him…

  829. 408RAIDER Says:

    Pete Carroll is the guy Seahawks are targeting. It is expected to happen, according to sources. Just reported to ESPN 10 minutes ago.<—— Ha! Go Bears!

  830. new englandraider Says:

    el tato..
    one word? esperate. no hyphen? espera-te? mariposa

  831. La Milicia Negra Says:

    —”A league source tells the National Football Post that Marc Trestman of the CFL’s Montreal Allouettes is a “strong candidate” to be the Raiders’ next head coach. Trestman has extensive NFL experience on the assistant level and has been linked to the Raiders before. He also coordinated Oakland’s offense in 2002, leading the unit to a No. 1 overall ranking. Trestman, however, is signed with Montreal through 2012, and it’s unclear if he’d break that contract.”—

    tree years too late, I’d like him to be the OC though, and keep the continuity cable started, even though i dont like him, but thats is mostly because he stinks as playcaller, leave that to Trestman, make Cable focus more on o-line, and we have an offense…

    then Mora as DC, and we might even have a team!

  832. new englandraider Says:

    maripose=butterfly

  833. new englandraider Says:

    we will play the seasnorks next season. right? nfc west?

  834. 408RAIDER Says:

    LMN

    we don’t need any more whiner castoffs do we?

  835. El Tato Says:

    At this point, if we want to trade McFadden we probably have to give the other team our first round pick and Asomugha too

  836. new englandraider Says:

    if we lose morrison our run d will probably be much better. as it is when he is on the field its like we have only 10 guys out there. jared from subway probably be a better mlb than kirk

  837. El Tato Says:

    “esperate” is right. “mariposa” is rigt too

  838. Dakota Says:

    MR,

    Al Davis said that when he hired Gruden Trask had wanted to hire Belichick.

  839. El Tato Says:

    get a true MLB should be one of this off-season priorities

    Thats why probably we wont get one

  840. Florida Pete Says:

    i don’t see how any conversation about a female head coach can be had without mentioning Maria Sharapova…

  841. raiderzmaverick Says:

    # Dakota Says:
    January 8th, 2010 at 11:32 am

    I would rather have Cable over Mora Jr…….and Art Shell…..and Robiskie…..and Bugel, White, and Callahan….
    —————————————
    True. I think he’d do better, but he needs Offensive Coordinator help. Badly.

  842. new englandraider Says:

    el tato
    i’ve been practicing my spanish. my boy hector is always forcing me to say shyt. most of which i got no clue as to what im saying. i must learn a little bit because if i don’t, someone is probably gonna kick my a$$.
    tortuga=turtle
    cornejo=rabbit
    lol

  843. La Milicia Negra Says:

    # 408RAIDER Says:
    January 8th, 2010 at 12:03 pm

    LMN

    we don’t need any more whiner castoffs do we?
    _______________________________________________________

    look into history, lots of our greats has been a 9′er, players and coaches…. gruden was a 9′er, if it takes us to steal half their team and staff to make us a playoff team id do it in a heartbeat… im not like you guys with the hate toward 9′ers… to me they are just another football team thats not the raiders…

  844. DMAC Says:

    Laila Ali for HC.

  845. new englandraider Says:

    oh and i know how to say yes… SI

  846. raiderzmaverick Says:

    Yeah, but Belicheck wouldn’t have lasted past his first season here. 1st year in New England they got worse and were 5-11. They lost 2 or 3 more games than the year before. So, he’d then be outta here and into some other HC gig….so it’s a good thing he chose Gruden over Belicheck

  847. new englandraider Says:

    how about jerry rice’s mother.. condeleesa(sp)

  848. new englandraider Says:

    belliCHOKE is a belliCHEAT

  849. raiderzmaverick Says:

    # Florida Pete Says:
    January 8th, 2010 at 12:07 pm

    i don’t see how any conversation about a female head coach can be had without mentioning Maria Sharapova…
    —————————————-
    Florida Pete….you’re nutz. I don’t know how you could think of including Maria Sharapova in the Head Coaching search. It’s Maria Sharapova for President :) :)

  850. El Tato Says:

    thats nice NewEnglandraider, LOL

  851. new englandraider Says:

    tienne cerveza?

  852. DMAC Says:

    ?Tienes mota?

  853. raiderzmaverick Says:

    Tienes una Head Coach por favor

  854. new englandraider Says:

    el tato
    dude had me going up to chicks at this new years party telling them in spanish that i like to eat raw meat with hair. this one chick wanted to fugg me up man

  855. El Tato Says:

    mota? Thats not spanish man

  856. DMAC Says:

    What is it?????

  857. new englandraider Says:

    buenos tardes amigos

  858. El Tato Says:

    I dont know, maybe you mean “moto”? motorbike

  859. El Tato Says:

    LOL

    Jerry McDonald Blog spanish lessons

  860. El Tato Says:

    mota means nothing (I think)

  861. new englandraider Says:

    jery mac= punheta. did i spell that right tato?

  862. new englandraider Says:

    poon-yet-ahhh

  863. El Tato Says:

    punheta? maybe “puñeta” but you dont have this: ñ Ñ

  864. Florida Pete Says:

    raiderzmaverick Says:
    January 8th, 2010 at 12:11 pm
    # Florida Pete Says:
    January 8th, 2010 at 12:07 pm

    i don’t see how any conversation about a female head coach can be had without mentioning Maria Sharapova…
    —————————————-
    Florida Pete….you’re nutz. I don’t know how you could think of including Maria Sharapova in the Head Coaching search. It’s Maria Sharapova for President

    :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::

    you are, of course, correct…

    silly me…

    what was i thinking…

  865. new englandraider Says:

    lol tato. how’d u do that??

  866. DMAC Says:

    Mota means weed.

  867. new englandraider Says:

    el tato.
    lmfao. its hard enough to spell in english. nevermind trying to spell in spanish

  868. new englandraider Says:

    i like weed

  869. new englandraider Says:

    dmac
    damn u. u better not be getting stoned. you should be jogging and blogging. no more slipping

  870. new englandraider Says:

    montega=herion
    pericho=blow

  871. El Tato Says:

    Ñ appear in my Keyboard here in Spain, when I was in the US I had a hard time writing emails home because I hadnt Ñ so I had to use N all the time and everything looked strange

    mota means weed? not here man

  872. new englandraider Says:

    da me una cinquenta por favor

  873. new englandraider Says:

    el tato
    ur in spain????? cool man.

  874. DMAC Says:

    I’m in Cali w/ these great Cali buds!

  875. DMAC Says:

    Later fellas.

  876. El Tato Says:

    I m from Spain, I am a Raiders fan since the first time I went to US

  877. El Tato Says:

    maybe mota means weed in Cali, not in Spain.

    South America and Cuba spanish its similar to Spain spanish but not exactly the same, like US english and british english I guess

  878. DKnight007 Says:

    Herrera1 Says:
    January 7th, 2010 at 11:37 pm
    DKnight, so you’re done as a fan? Meaning you won’t be watching or attending a game any longer?

    ^^^^^^^^^^
    Why do I have to keep on going over and over this on these boards??!!

    Since Gruden was pushed out the door for WINNING!

    My father and I didn’t renew our season tickets and we are glad we didn’t due to STUPID decisions like that.

    That was the beginning of the moronic decisions within the dysfunctional organization and of course the stupidity and Commitment to Losing has remained for the past 7 years since then. I have gone to maybe 2 or 2 games a season since then and will try to watch on TV when it is not blacked out.

    We our never buying season tickets again until TRUE change occurs within the “organization” the TRUE Commitment to Winning can begin again. That steps that to need to be made is hiring a TRUE GM/Personnel Man to take care of free agent signings and work the draft. NOT Al Davis. The next step would be to hire a REAL Head Coach to work as a team with the new GM to turn the ship around!

    Al Davis needs to then be an owner and just watch for 3 years and not meddle and let them do their jobs. After 3 years then he can evaluate them.

    It’s simple really….but to the old looney stubborn old man Al Davis, it’s not so easy, cause to him it’s rocket science.

    An example of what needs to be done is what just occured with the Redskins. Daniel Snyder finally woke the hell up and hired to people who are proven WINNERS to run the team and turn it around.

  879. 408RAIDER Says:

    LMN

    I dont hate the 9ers just their fans.

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