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UPDATED: Hurry up and wait . . .

By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Monday, January 11th, 2010 at 12:37 pm in Oakland Raiders.

No news out of Alameda as yet, where coach Tom Cable is supposed to meet with Al Davis and presumably be informed his tenure as the 17th coach of the Raiders has ended after winning nine times in 28 games.

Of course, events seldom transpire in a timely manner where the Raiders are concerned.

Raiders senior executive John Herrera said “it’s been a very quiet day” and wasn’t aware of a meeting between Davis and Cable today.

During his season-ending press conference, the day after a 21-13 loss to Baltimore, Cable said he talked to Davis that morning and added “We’ll talk again next week.”

When asked if it would be Monday, Cable said, “Sometime next week.”

Will check in with more information as (or if) it becomes available . . .

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299 Responses to “UPDATED: Hurry up and wait . . .”

  1. Florida Pete Says:

    Florida Pete Says:
    January 11th, 2010 at 12:37 pm
    DKnight007 Says:
    January 11th, 2010 at 12:26 pm
    It’s official. MLB Rolando McClain declares for draft.

    Read the article below….it says alot about his intangibles, intelligence, experience and leadership for being a junior. This guy should be the Raiders pick at #8 or an OT.

    http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/draft10/news/story?id=4816604

    :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::

    if he is there, we gotta take him…

    he really could be a game changer…

    a la Ray Lewis…

  2. Florida Pete Says:

    2nd

  3. Florida Pete Says:

    turd…

  4. Florida Pete Says:

    … i am so immature…

  5. r8dr4lfe21 Says:

    WTF! we knew this already.

  6. JB Says:

    A dominant MLB like McClain could do a lot for this team for Many years. Just think back on what Ray Lewis has done for the Raven’s D. Ray by himself is manageable but he brings together the WHOLE defense for a very formidable squad. I think McClain plus a few other key D players could also do the same thing. Use our #8 pick for McClain. Then 2-OT, 3A-C, 3BOG, 4, 5A, 5B & 6 on best available athlete (not fastest necessarily) in the DT, CB, DE, PR/KR categories.

  7. chappy23us Says:

    Dirt nap for Al!

  8. r8dr4lfe21 Says:

    I have to be the most mature person on this blog. What that… MADE YOU LOOK lol.

  9. vegas raider Says:

    McLain has great instincts, you could see that out there.

    I would love him as well, but I think he is going top 5.

    I am focusing on the hope that Gerald McCoy is our pick at #8.

    Javier Arenas in round 2, and two O-liners in round 3.

    Arenas is going to have a Devin Hester/Deon Sanders like impact the next 5 years running kicks.

  10. saladfingerz Says:

    you missed the bus.

    Chipper Kelly to coach the Raids.

  11. r8dr4lfe21 Says:

    saladfingerz Says:
    January 11th, 2010 at 12:43 pm
    you missed the bus.

    Chipper Kelly to coach the Raids.
    ——————————–

    WHO?

  12. chappy23us Says:

    Does it even matter who we all want to draft? Al is gonna take the fastest CB on the board.

  13. vegas raider Says:

    I’m going to laugh, sadly, when/if Al appeases all the “draft O-line” guys, when he finally drafts a T in round 1, and it is the guy Williams from Maryland who runs a 4.7 and is one of the best athletes ever for a LT.

    I think we know how that story will end.

  14. El Tato Says:

    Alabama plays 3-4, McClain is a 3-4 ILB, but I guess he could play also 4-3 for us

  15. r8dr4lfe21 Says:

    Come on Al attention whore hurry up.

  16. El Tato Says:

    Our biggest problems are stopping the run and pass/run blocking

    Our first rounder should be McClain or OT (With no more options)

    Based on what I saw this season I would move Seymour inside and play Shaughnessy outside. Shaughnessy, Seymor, Kelly and Ellis are a decent line. So now focus on LBs.

    Morrison is always out of position and Howard is weak.

  17. vegas raider Says:

    If we fire Tom Cable, I wonder who the minority interview will be?

    Will we bring in another token/James Lofton type, or will they be serious and look at Herm or Ty Willingham?

  18. Florida Pete Says:

    please…

    not herm…

  19. 4evaRaider Says:

    4evaRaider Says:
    January 11th, 2010 at 12:58 pm
    Hey Plunketthead….Ha Big Al tweeted you yet?

  20. Florida Pete Says:

    even if we get McClain in the 1st…

    if Micah Johnson is there at 3a…

    we gots to take him…

  21. M Lonetree Says:

    Vegas,

    Aaron did Butte College and Cal proud yesterday.

    Point is Tedford went huntin’ in the hinterlands and found a gem. Dick Vermeil went huntin’ in the Arena League and found a steal.
    Brett Favre, an afterthought from Southern Miss discarded by Atlanta for a pittance.
    Brady, an afterthought in the 7th.
    Romo, an undrafted Saluki.

    Qbs, who knows what rock a good one is hiding under? Smith? Croyle? Pennington? Thigpen? Losman? Gradkowski? Don’t know if any of ‘em are worth the time, but it seems certain that there is someone out there riding herd on a ranch someplace or selling shoes at a Sportmart who is probably better than any of them.

  22. vegas raider Says:

    From Peter King MMQB:

    I’ve said it more than once: JaMarcus Russell is the second coming of Ryan Leaf. The lack of desire, the inability to get in top shape (one source close to the Raiders says he reported to camp 35 pounds overweight last summer), and not making football the overriding focus in his life all have contributed to his failure as an NFL player.

    Russell is on his way, but I’ve got to hand it to Leaf, who is almost singular in his badness in recent NFL history. Comparing the first three ill-fated seasons of Russell’s Oakland career with the entire three years of Leaf’s run (he played two years in San Diego and one in Dallas):

    QB Years W-L Att-Comp Pct Yards TD Int Rating

    Russell 2007-09 5-11 354-680 .521 4,083 18 23 65.2

    Leaf 1998-00 4-17 317-655 .484 3,666 14 36 50.0

  23. 4evaRaider Says:

    Ok M….I know a saluki is an Iranian dog Right?

    But the saluki is which college’s mascot?

  24. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Al’s waiting a few days due to the McGuire story. Al knows nobody cares about the Raiders anymore, so if there’s even a remotely relevant story competing with whatever announcement he has, it’s falling on deaf ears.

  25. Bobby Bushay Says:

    Remember this: Al Davis would rather be right than consistent – and of late, has done neither well.

  26. vegas raider Says:

    LOL…good work Lonetree.

    But Tedford “huntin’ in the hinterlands”? Come on man, Chico is maybe less than a 3 hour drive from Berkely, and a california juco powerhouse.

  27. vegas raider Says:

    The southern illinois saluki’s

  28. mistic1 Says:

    Mistic1 Says:
    January 11th, 2010 at 12:48 pm
    Are we missing the point? Davis wants to develop Russell, and win now. You don’t bring in another young unproven guy, to get this done. He will struggle, as he learns on the fly, you might as well send Russell back out there if this is the case. That is why you bring in an older proven nfl veteran, with a limited shelf life. We also have to consider the draft in terms of cost of signing your picks. This is why your new veteran qb, must be inexpensive. Finally, if davis brings in trestman, you need a guy with expeirnce in that sort of passing offense, Vick and Culpepper, fit the bill there. When culpepper was here he was still not over his injured knee. Vick is not an rb playing qb. he is a proven winner at his position, and like most so called mobile guys, the passing game evolves for them as they lose some of the speed and quickness in thier running ability. See Elway, Young, Moon, Cunningham, and Mcnair for reference.People become enamored or mesmerized by the spectacular things the guys do with thier legs, and underestimate, or discount their passing ability. This is an unfair stigma attched to most running qb’s, including vick.Remember the falcons were a running team, and were not built for a high flying passing attack win vick was there.

  29. M Lonetree Says:

    4eva,

    my bad. Southern Illinois, but in fact Romo went to Eastern Illinois.

  30. DKnight007 Says:

    Well lets take a look if McClain will be there when the Raiders pick then at #8:

    1.St. Louis (1-15)- Clausen or Suh
    2.Detroit (2-14)- Suh, Okung, or Berry
    3.Tampa Bay (3-13)- McCoy or Berry
    4.Washington (4-12)- Clausen, Okung, or Bradford
    5.Kansas City (4-12)- Berry, Haden, Campbell, McClain or Bryant
    6.Seattle (5-11)- Okung, Campbell, Davis, T. Williams or Morgan
    7.Cleveland (5-11)- Berry, Haden, Bradford or Bryant
    8.Oakland (5-11)- Hopefully McClain or a top OT
    9.Buffalo (6-10)
    10.Jacksonville^ (

    In conclusion, I think only 1 team may take a look at McClain hard before the Raiders at #8 and it’s a dreaded division rival. The Queefs! Ugh…

  31. r8dr4lfe21 Says:

    I was in Chico last friday it didnt look to big there. But i know Chico State is a party school.

  32. mistic1 Says:

    Mclain is solid and would fit in any defense. I think there will be a a quality lb available in the second round, and we can spend our first pick on one of our lines.

  33. M Lonetree Says:

    Vegas,

    I know Chico, just a short amble from Paradise.

  34. vegas raider Says:

    I hope McLain goes before us, because I would rather have McCoy over Mclain.

    Either way, first pick HAS to be for our defensive front 7. Anything else would be just craziness. Even a LT.

  35. vegas raider Says:

    I made the seamless transition from Chico State to Las Vegas.

    Didn’t miss a step.

  36. Chris in NY Says:

    Not quite sold on McClain at No. 8. I think he’ll be a good but not great player. If an elite o-lineman is there that’s the pick.

  37. M Lonetree Says:

    Someone here was anguishing yesterday about “Raiders could’ve had Rodgers but took Fabian instead”. I had to laugh.

    Well, the Raiders coulda had Warner,coulda had Favre (when Atlanta dumped him wasn’t ex-Raider Ken Herock the GM in Atlanta?), coulda had Fitzgerald, coulda had Flacco, coulda had Ray Rice, coulda had Beanie Wells, coulda had Ryan Grant…coulda had nearly every single player in the NFL. But the same could be said of nearly every team shooting craps in April.

  38. vegas raider Says:

    Chris in NY,

    I’ve had this debate many times, but I will propose it to you.

    If we were to ultimately replace Henderson at LT, wouldn’t it be easier to do that next year, when his contract is up, and after one more year, we really will have an idea if is he the man for the job or not?

    If we draft a LT in the first this year, someone, either Mario or the rookie, will go play a RT, a position they have rarely ever played. The loser of the LT battle will be pissed. What if that is the rookie? And the winner will always be looking over his shoulder.

    I look at the situation of the Oakland Raiders drafting a LT, and either moving him or your other young LT to a new position, and handling all that goes with that a recipe for disaster.

    Wait one year, and the solution seems so much easier.

  39. Chris in NY Says:

    Arenas would be a good pick in Round 2 if he’s still available. I like the job CJ is doing opposite Nnamdi — I know many disagree — but we seriously lack depth there and Arenas would be a good Nickel. Plus he’s an option in the return game.

    I’m also really high on Idaho G Mike Iupati who is clearly athletic enough to play RT. He’s projected to go late 1st. If a trade down is possible I’d trade down for a late 1st and 2nd, if possible, then with the first 3 picks, get:
    1) Mike Iupati, G, Idago
    2) Javier Arenas, CB, Alabama
    2) Micah Johnson, MLB, Kentucky
    3) Best o-line/d-line available
    3) Best o-line/d-line available
    4) Trindon Holliday, WR/RB/KR, LSU
    5) Make an offer on RFA QB Troy Smith, Ravens
    5-7) Best available prospects at any position

  40. DKnight007 Says:

    Oh, don’t worry Jerry.

    With the old looney man and his idiot cronies running the show….Cable will be left dwindling until the end of the week. Then if he does get fired, then it will happen next Monday and then the new head coach (probably a lap dog like Fassel) will get hired in 3 weeks!

    There is no sense of urgency and direction when it comes to the old looney man Al.

    I hope to heck he proves me wrong and somehow hires Harbaugh!

  41. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Rayda23059 Says:
    January 10th, 2010 at 6:48 pm

    Madden, not ok, jerk. Disrespecting the owner like you do is irresponsible.

    ……………….

    Please do explain to me how disrespecting Al Davis is “irresponsible”, or even immoral, in the slightest? What is Al Davis doing today to earn my respect?

  42. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    # Rayda23059 Says:
    January 10th, 2010 at 6:51 pm

    Davis brought in Ellis and Seymour, he will do more of the same this year.

    ………………….

    Results:

    Taking a 5-11 team to 5-11.

    Again, what is Al Davis doing now to earn my respect?

    Respect has to be earned. Nobody gets it by default. Maybe that’s what Al struggles with? Delusionally thinks he’s a godfather type? He’s no such thing. Just a businessman, and a failing one at that.

  43. r8dr4lfe21 Says:

    The Real MaddenRaider Says:
    January 11th, 2010 at 1:32 pm
    # Rayda23059 Says:
    January 10th, 2010 at 6:51 pm

    Davis brought in Ellis and Seymour, he will do more of the same this year.

    ………………….

    Results:

    Taking a 5-11 team to 5-11.

    Again, what is Al Davis doing now to earn my respect?

    Respect has to be earned. Nobody gets it by default. Maybe that’s what Al struggles with? Delusionally thinks he’s a godfather type? He’s no such thing. Just a businessman, and a failing one at that.
    ———————————

    Thats called continuity lol.

  44. raiderdav Says:

    :breaking news:::
    3rd times a charm, Raiders to name Art Shell as head coach

    http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2326498

    honestly i can see it happening again, cause senile al is always right

  45. mistic1 Says:

    Micah Johnson would be an awesome pick, Im sure he will be available in the second, and maybe even the third round. This would allow us to focus on the one of the line units, with the number 8 spot.

  46. M Lonetree Says:

    Based upon observances here on planet Earth, it does seem clear to me that the more popular a person, idea or thing is among a majority of humans, the more likely that person, idea or thing is to be utterly vaccuous.

  47. Mistabrown Says:

    R8dr did you watch the youtube vid?

    Thats a retarted pres, right ?

  48. r8dr4lfe21 Says:

    Mistabrown Says:
    January 11th, 2010 at 1:48 pm
    Vegas I havent saw that one before. I had to cut it off I couldn’t even watch him. WOW I never seen a Pres lose his footing like that! Haha
    ————————————

    You havent saw that one, surely you ment i havent seen that one.

  49. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    # r8dr4lfe21 Says:
    January 11th, 2010 at 1:33 pm

    The Real MaddenRaider Says:
    January 11th, 2010 at 1:32 pm
    # Rayda23059 Says:
    January 10th, 2010 at 6:51 pm

    Davis brought in Ellis and Seymour, he will do more of the same this year.

    ………………….

    Results:

    Taking a 5-11 team to 5-11.

    Again, what is Al Davis doing now to earn my respect?

    Respect has to be earned. Nobody gets it by default. Maybe that’s what Al struggles with? Delusionally thinks he’s a godfather type? He’s no such thing. Just a businessman, and a failing one at that.
    ———————————

    Thats called continuity lol.

    ……………..

    LOL!!!

    Good one, man.
    Good one,

  50. 4evaRaider Says:

    what him said?

  51. Florida Pete Says:

    1… McClain…

    2… Williams DT (Tenn)

    3… Micah Johnson MLB (Ky)

    defense defense defense…

    eveerybody sing it with me !!!!

    DEeeeeeeFEeeeeeeNSE !!!!

    oh…. oh… uh…

    i’m okay…

  52. toec Says:

    Last draft I woulda gone with

    1) OT Eugene Monroe (or Crabtree or Raji)
    2) Rey MaLuauauuaaga

    It woulda been addition by subtraction with DHB. And even if Mitchell turns out to be a great player, he’s 2nd string to Branch, probably the 3rd best defensive player on the team.

  53. vegas raider Says:

    We’ll do it LIVE!!!!!!!!

    That video always made me give him more respect. That was like 20 years ago anyways for Inside Edition.

    People who can’t do their jobs should be yelled at. That’s how the Raiders should have treated Jamarcus Russell.

  54. El Dirty Says:

    Who needs a girlfriend? U get enough drama from the Raiders.

  55. DKnight007 Says:

    Florida Pete Says:
    January 11th, 2010 at 1:53 pm
    1… McClain…

    2… Williams DT (Tenn)

    3… Micah Johnson MLB (Ky)

    defense defense defense…

    eveerybody sing it with me !!!!

    DEeeeeeeFEeeeeeeNSE !!!!

    oh…. oh… uh…

    i’m okay…

    ^^^^^^^^^
    Would love to see DT Dan Williams slide to the Raiders in Round 2, but I doubt he will be there.

  56. El Tato Says:

    From NFL.com:

    “If the Raiders fire coach Tom Cable, they could strongly consider Packers assistant head coach Winston Moss as a replacement, a source close to the situation said.

    Moss, who coaches Green Bay’s inside linebackers, interviewed with Oakland for the head-coaching job last offseason and is on its short list of potential candidates should the job become available.

    With the Packers’ season finished following Sunday’s wild-card loss in Arizona, Moss is now free to interview with the team’s permission.”

    ———————————————-

    He was a Raider LB from 1991 to 1994, LBs coach and a 3-4 Defensive Coordinator.

    Changing defense to 3-4, McClain in round 1?

  57. Mistabrown Says:

    WHERE IS THE OVERHEAD PROJECTOR?????

    0bama talk is depressing..in all 57 states lol

  58. Demon Raider Says:

    McCoy will most likely be gone before McClain is….

  59. El Tato Says:

    I think either Dan Williams or Terrence Cody could be there in round 2. Combine can help, when Cody runs a bad 40 time (I m still perplexed to see the damage a 40 yard sprint can do to a good football player)

  60. r8dr4lfe21 Says:

    Whats that make us, we voted them in Vegas.

  61. Mistabrown Says:

    Mark McGuire comes clean on roids after hiding in his house for 8 years…what a douche

  62. El Tato Says:

    McCoy will be one of the 3 first players selected

  63. vegas raider Says:

    Cody was the #52 pick by Todd McShay. Javier Arenas #53.

    I think one of those will be there in the second and maybe both.

  64. Demon Raider Says:

    I say either Draft McClain or trade down and draft either Cody or D. Williams or Price

  65. r8dr4lfe21 Says:

    spellcheck Says:
    January 11th, 2010 at 2:09 pm
    r8dr4lfe21 Says:
    January 11th, 2010 at 2:08 pm
    Whats that make us, we voted them in Vegas
    000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000

    We’ve read your posts…we know what you are!
    ——————————

    Understood spellcheck, but next time grown folks are talking keep your mouth shut. Now thats ebonics and thuganomics all in 1.

  66. DKnight007 Says:

    El Tato Says:
    January 11th, 2010 at 2:05 pm
    From NFL.com:

    “If the Raiders fire coach Tom Cable, they could strongly consider Packers assistant head coach Winston Moss as a replacement, a source close to the situation said.

    Moss, who coaches Green Bay’s inside linebackers, interviewed with Oakland for the head-coaching job last offseason and is on its short list of potential candidates should the job become available.

    With the Packers’ season finished following Sunday’s wild-card loss in Arizona, Moss is now free to interview with the team’s permission.”

    ———————————————-

    He was a Raider LB from 1991 to 1994, LBs coach and a 3-4 Defensive Coordinator.

    Changing defense to 3-4, McClain in round 1?

    ^^^^^^^^^^
    Interesting observation.

  67. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    vegas raider Says:
    January 11th, 2010 at 1:54 pm

    MR,

    I have seen where Fox News was only a million viewers behind Katie Couric at CBS.

    ………..

    Yeh, that’s close. And we were only 5 wins away from making the playoffs.

  68. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Mistabrown Says:
    January 11th, 2010 at 1:55 pm

    I have no idea Im not a dialect expert,

    ………..

    Then why do you keep bringing up ebonics?

  69. Demon Raider Says:

    Spikes has a good chance of slipping into the 2nd round…

  70. El Tato Says:

    Spikes has a good chance of slipping into the 2nd round…

    —————————————–

    Spikes will be hurt by 40 yard time, but he will be a good player like Rey Maulaga was this season, I think he could slip to round 2 too

  71. saladfingerz Says:

    W. Moss = Rooney Rule

    C. Kelly = New Head Coach of “da Raidas”.

  72. Demon Raider Says:

    It’s possible that we can trade down to like 12 and still be able to get McClain.

  73. El Dirty Says:

    Wow I haven’t been here fpr a minute but draft talk already? so sad.

  74. El Tato Says:

    You never knows who is going to slip, but I think McCoy is a top-3 talent.

    Probably Suh, McCoy and Eric Berry are the best 3 players this year.

  75. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Mistabrown Says:
    January 11th, 2010 at 2:04 pm

    Typical liberals they want to smash BUSH for being dumb

    ……….

    Are you saying Bush isn’t dumb?

  76. DKnight007 Says:

    Demon Raider Says:
    January 11th, 2010 at 2:14 pm
    It’s possible that we can trade down to like 12 and still be able to get McClain.

    ^^^^^^^^^
    Nah….not worth it. The orange ponies may want him bad enough and trade up.

  77. spellcheck Says:

    # r8dr4lfe21 Says:
    January 11th, 2010 at 2:03 pm

    At least they use a teleprompter, and not just play cartoons like they did while Bush spoke.

    ……………….
    Axelrod’s hand is up Obama’s a$$ and back when he stands in front of that teleprompter

  78. Demon Raider Says:

    Rey had a good year? I didn’t hear jack about him this year. I only heard good things about Matthews and Cushing….

  79. saladfingerz Says:

    Cable = sacked

    W. Moss = satisfies Rooney Rule

    J. Harbaugh = floated

    Randy Hansen = retained

    J. Herrera = asshat

    C. Kelly = New Head Coach of the Oakland Raiders

  80. M Lonetree Says:

    Some of you want the Raiders to draft an Alabama linebacker, are you the same who wanted Vernon Gholston a couple of years ago?
    On Saturday Gholston had one tackle during the Jets playoff win. He could probably be had for a can of spam these days.
    Aaron Curry,the freak, whom many of you wanted last year had 54 tackles and 7 assists this season. Half of Kirk Morrison’s worth of stats.

  81. Demon Raider Says:

    DK, even if that does happen, we’d still be in a position to get either OT Trent Williams or maybe OT Anthiny Davis or DT’s Cody, Williams or Price…

  82. vegas raider Says:

    If Bruce Gradkowski walks away, I am going to be crushed. He is everything Jamarcus isn’t, and the perfect thing for this team.

    He was 100% commited to the Raiders this year, and from a guy with a one-year deal and not much commitment from the Raiders.

    Give him a fair contract and the job, and he won’t let us down. He may get hurt, but Bruce for 3 years playing, leading and directing can be the perfect stepping stone for this organization.

    Jamarcus is the complete opposite. He may be the last straw that puts the Raiders out of business.

  83. Mistabrown Says:

    I just figured out Jamarcus Russell is r8dr’s speech writer.

    _______________________

    # r8dr4lfe21 Says:
    January 11th, 2010 at 2:19 pm

    At least it’s not a humpback like Bush had during his speach. His earpiece on, people saying just say what we say nothing more.

  84. 408RAIDER Says:

    did it go down yet??

  85. spellcheck Says:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ThEAO0lt4Dw

  86. Demon Raider Says:

    Oakland should seriously try to get Wilfork….. He might like to be on the same line as Seymour again….

  87. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    saladfingerz Says:
    January 11th, 2010 at 2:18 pm

    Cable = sacked

    W. Moss = satisfies Rooney Rule

    J. Harbaugh = floated

    Randy Hansen = retained

    J. Herrera = asshat

    …………..

    LOL!

  88. El Dirty Says:

    No way we afford wilfork and keep seymour. would be nice though.

  89. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    vegas raider Says:
    January 11th, 2010 at 2:20 pm

    If Bruce Gradkowski walks away, I am going to be crushed. He is everything Jamarcus isn’t,

    …………….

    Unfortunately, that includes small and frail.

  90. Kirk Says:

    Maybe Cable will throw Al Davis against the wall….

  91. Demon Raider Says:

    If it’s an uncapped year, signing Both Seymour and Wilfork wouldn’t be a problem.

  92. snnyjcbs Says:

    Since when has Al Davis ever held a meeting with a coach that he really wanted to fire before doing so. None that I can remember. And if true as some of your other clown brothers are claiming that Cable was almost fired 4 times during the season, Al Davis would have dumped him the day after the season. Do you really think that Al Davis is blind to the problems Russell caused for the team?, if you do you are even more of a jerk than I already had you called on.

  93. 860Todd Christensen Says:

    Pete Carroll left USC and went to Seattle….

  94. Mistabrown Says:

    I know I’m right!
    And I can play the cut & paste game just like you!
    :D

    _____________________

    The Real MaddenRaider Says:
    January 11th, 2010 at 2:33 pm

    You know what? You’re right.

  95. El Dirty Says:

    Demon

    It wont uncapped. Al would have to sell some more of the team just to afford an uncapped team… Like all of it.

  96. vegas raider Says:

    r8dr4lfe21 Says:
    January 11th, 2010 at 2:39 pm

    When you plant a seed it takes time to grow.

    *************************************

    I used to use that same BS sales line when I worked as a broker.

    It’s a “cushion” to the next close.

  97. RaiderRockstar Says:

    McNabb = Culpepper?

    look at the stats for each QB over the past 5 seasons …

    almost like comparing Peyton Manning to Charlie Frye you ignorant tools

  98. snnyjcbs Says:

    I am also aware of how when a man like Al Davis $%*& on you people for so many years in that you hated him but his teams were down right scary. That now that he has been down awhile how sweet it must be for you all to try and $%&* back all over him.

    Funny how the garbage of the World get such joy when the great fall. Just think the many jerks in your line of work that are nothing, working out of the back of a car gets to trash a great man. Must make you and your nothing lives feel better about your self.

    You bunch of garbage media types could not shine this mans shoes. You clowns could live a thousand life times and not do what this man did in his life, you people are pathetic and so are the SO CALLED RAIDER FANS THAT BOO, TAKE OUT BILLBOARDS AND TRASH THE MAN THAT IS AND WILL ALWAYS WILL BE THE RAIDERS.

    How dumb all you clowns are including the fans is that the ONLY REASON THE RAIDERS ARE NEWS AFTER AS BAD AS THEY HAVE BEEN OVER THE YEARS IS BECAUSE OF AL DAVIS AND HOW GREAT THEY WERE.

    If it was the Lyons or Arizona nobody would even care.

  99. RaiderRockstar Says:

    a better comparison to Culpepper would be Russell or Leftwich.

  100. Mistabrown Says:

    Oakglens BFF is here!!!!

    How you guys (partners) doing Lucyfur?

  101. Zymurge Says:

    er, should’ve read “of political news” — typing faster than my fingers can handle.

  102. The Big Banana Says:

    Wow, this blog is poppin’! Nothing like a Raider coach watch to get things buzzing. lol

  103. Kaliver Says:

    Snnyjcbs: was the tag “Herrera” taken or what? You don’t have to fly anonymous around here, buddy.

  104. Mistabrown Says:

    Thats pretty harsh putting Leftwich & Culpepper in the same group as Russell…

  105. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    Trade DMAC for Culpepper or Leftwich!

  106. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Trade DMAC for Culpepper or Leftwich!

    ***

    LOL!

    trade Russell to get Al a new jumpsuit

  107. El Dirty Says:

    BO NO WAY!

  108. RaiderDogg Says:

    Name calling. The next best thing to being right ;)

  109. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Raiders senior executive John Herrera said “it’s been a very quiet day” and wasn’t aware of a meeting between Davis and Cable today.

    ***

    Al is going to string this along as long as he can. We might have a new HC prior to the draft. we’ll see

  110. The Big Banana Says:

    Trade Russell for Mr. Irrelevant!

  111. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    Trade DMAC for Mr. Irrelevant!

  112. Lucifer-666 Says:

    RaiderDogg I am still hoping to get a Government Mule CD in the mail!

    Warren Hayes!!!

  113. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    Trade DMAC for Biz Markie! Oh snap!

  114. Mistabrown Says:

    You 2 clowns settle #225 I’ll sit here and watch the dogg & pony show.

  115. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Trade DMAC for Mr. Irrelevant!

    ***

    Ryan Succop ?

    he went 25/29 this year as a rookie. not bad

  116. Lucifer-666 Says:

    It does fit you……you have to admit it does MistaBrownNose

  117. RaiderRockstar Says:

    tag Dick & Seabass!

  118. The Big Banana Says:

    Damit Davis!! You’re making it hard to run my Madden Raider franchise. I can’t dump Russell or Walker because of the cap hit I’ll take.

  119. vegas raider Says:

    Zymurge,

    I threw out football posts #160, 138, 126 and 113 (somewhat) and they are still out there.

    Didn’t get much of a response. It’s a long off-season what can you say.

  120. mistic1 Says:

    You cant put Culpepper or leftwich in the same catagory as Russell. Culpepper and Lefftwich have both had success in this league. Culpepper by the way is a pretty good qb that has yet to show what he can do since his knee in miami.Leftwich would not be a good fit, he may be the only qb out there less mobile than Russell. Behind this o-line he would get killed. Culpepper on the other hand can still move, can still throw, and he is in the best shape he has ever been in. He may be a good tutor for Russell. I would also consider Vick, both would be inexpensive, both have played in passing offenses, and both can win games now. only question is who coaches the team next year. If you bring in one of these qbs I think you go with trestman, or green.

  121. Lucifer-666 Says:

    Just because one poster has an opinion (RaiderDogg) doesn’t mean that opinion is felt throughout the entire Blog.

    Now I see why they call you are the most uneducated and ignorant poster here?

  122. 4evaRaider Says:

    vegas raider Says:
    January 11th, 2010 at 2:20 pm
    If Bruce Gradkowski walks away, I am going to be crushed. He is everything Jamarcus isn’t, and the perfect thing for this team.

    He was 100% commited to the Raiders this year, and from a guy with a one-year deal and not much commitment from the Raiders.

    Give him a fair contract and the job, and he won’t let us down. He may get hurt, but Bruce for 3 years playing, leading and directing can be the perfect stepping stone for this organization.

    Jamarcus is the complete opposite. He may be the last straw that puts the Raiders out of business.
    ************************************************

    I agree lol!

  123. RaiderRockstar Says:

    5pm in Podunk. later fellas!

  124. 408RAIDER Says:

    Trade DMAC 4 McNabb..

  125. KoolKell Says:

    I think BrownStains is more descriptive. ;-)

  126. Lucifer-666 Says:

    Now don’t go getting all butt hurt SistaBrownEye

    These are only words on a computer screen they are not meant to affect you emotionally…but then again you are pretty feeble minded so it may hurt your little chat feelings.

    Go home and have your mom make your favorite TV dinner and just be glad the parents basement is still a viable living option until you get back on your feet.

  127. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    Trade DMAC for Chris Bosh!

  128. RaiderDogg Says:

    So pathetically predictable.

  129. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    Trade DMAC for Brown streaking stains on someones underwear!

  130. 4evaRaider Says:

    When there’s lightning,doodle do do

  131. Lucifer-666 Says:

    Trade Mark Wilson, Todd Marinavich and JaMarcus Russell for one semi-good QB

  132. Charged Up for Superbowl Victory Says:

    J-E-T-S, JETS, JETS, JETS! Bring them on! Jets stands for (J)ust (E)at (T)homlinson’s (S)peed. Y’all better get ready for San Diego Super Chargers!

    Chargers 35, Cowboys 24

  133. vegas raider Says:

    Trade DMAC to trade up to draft a DB!!!!

  134. Lucifer-666 Says:

    “Trade DMAC for Brown streaking stains on someones underwear!”

    So damn funny!!!

  135. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    “Sarah Palin inks deal with Fox News” – CNN International

    Well, I guess we can rule her out to replace Tom Cable.

  136. The Big Banana Says:

    What do you guys think Davis will do with Morrison? Re-sign him or say bon voyage?

  137. Charged Up for Superbowl Victory Says:

    Damn, I wish this was my car: http://omgsnapshot.files.wordpress.com/2008/10/img_2685.jpg

  138. Lucifer-666 Says:

    The empty trophy case is back to coincide with the empty headed

  139. vegas raider Says:

    I hope we draft his replacement with one of our first 4 picks.

    He is the starting MLB for the worst run D the last 5 years. Enough said.

  140. Charged Up for Superbowl Victory Says:

    ESPN is reporting: Tom Cable might be out very soon, and some intriguing candidates have emerged.

    Subscribe to Insider for as low as $2.50/month to access the complete rumor

  141. Lucifer-666 Says:

    To answer your question Big Banana:

    Morrison is a barely adequate LB……not a MLB and better suited for OLB if you ask me.

    I think AL will over pay him to stay here and play mediocre football over the next 5 years.

    That’s what I think!

  142. Charged Up for Superbowl Victory Says:

    Morrison is staying Lucifer because Davis likes seeing LT run all over his defense.

  143. mistic1 Says:

    408RAIDER Says:
    January 11th, 2010 at 3:02 pm
    Trade DMAC 4 McNabb..
    …………………………………………………

    The eagles dont want macfadden, and even if they did, they would not trade mcnabb to get him. Raiders should however make a play for Vick. He is a guy that will sell tix, be able to win games now, and he will come at a far cheaper price than mcnabb.

  144. KoolKell Says:

    Yep, the media seems pretty sure Cable is gone. But, Davis will have to make a big splash hire to sellout the home opener. I don’t think Gilbride or Fassel gets him there.

    Now, if he were to hire a GM……..but he should do that First.

  145. Charged Up for Superbowl Victory Says:

    Davis is going to hire Buddy Ryan.

  146. Rayda23059 Says:

    Anyone seen any white smoke yet?

  147. Lucifer-666 Says:

    “Each one of your responses validates what is becoming abundantly clear about you. I now understand why you are always so angry.”

    That’s what I have been trying to tell him for a year now.

    “Morrison is staying Lucifer because Davis likes seeing LT run all over his defense.”

    Morrison is staying because Al can pay him peanuts compared to paying a legitimate MLB.

    Al likes to waste his money on RB, WR and QB position not so much on LB’s

  148. Charged Up for Superbowl Victory Says:

    Raider Dogg and Mistabrown, you are both vuginas who must bow down to the new lords of the west, the San Diego Chargers.

  149. Charged Up for Superbowl Victory Says:

    MR, your on board the Charger Super Bowl wagon right?

  150. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    # Demon Raider Says:
    January 11th, 2010 at 2:25 pm

    Oakland should seriously try to get Wilfork….. He might like to be on the same line as Seymour again….

    …………….

    Davis shelling out money to stop the run? Don’t see it.

  151. 860Todd Christensen Says:

    Go Jets! Whooo Hoooo!!!

  152. Charged Up for Superbowl Victory Says:

    Davis is waiting for BB to be fired by the Patriots.

  153. mistic1 Says:

    I dont think there is much buzz out there for morrisson, nor do alot of teams draft lbs early in drafts. This leads me to believe that howard or morrisson can be retained for a lowball price, and the raiders can upgrade this position in the second or third round.

  154. Rayda23059 Says:

    Silver and black smoke?

  155. texguy Says:

    Charged up for another playoff loss!

    Chargers=Chokers

  156. RaiderDogg Says:

    Charged Up for Superbowl Victory Says:
    January 11th, 2010 at 3:20 pm
    Raider Dogg and Mistabrown, you are both vuginas who must bow down to the new lords of the west, the San Diego Chargers.”

    Get back to me when you have at least one SB Ring and even then I still ain’t bowing down to anyone.

    Seriously though, the Jets D is looking damn good. Should be a good game and I will be rooting for the Jets. Philip Rivers had an excellent year and it would be cool to see New Orleans and Drew Brees play against the Chargers in the SB. Just so I could witness Brees stick it to the team that gave up on him.

    Not going to happen though. Chargers will be 1 and done and the Jets and Ravens will meet in the AFC Championship game.

  157. Frank YoooooooLLL Says:

    If you see silver and black smoke, Cable must have thrown Al into the amish fireplace in Als office. Only Al would create silver and black smoke

  158. Stabler76 Says:

    White Smoke or

    Silver and Black smoke,

    either way, I’d like to see it announce that Cable is being replaced.

    I’d like to see better play calling and better use of talent.

  159. The Big Banana Says:

    I think AL will over pay him to stay here and play mediocre football over the next 5 years.

    That’s what I think!
    =====================================================
    This is what I’m afraid of. If we can keep him for depth at a cheap price and upgrade the position, great. Otherwise, please don’t over pay for this guy.

  160. texguy Says:

    As the NFL season comes to a close, the result will be the same as it has always been…..

    Chargers will have 0 superbowl victories.

  161. The Big Banana Says:

    # mistic1 Says:
    January 11th, 2010 at 3:26 pm

    I dont think there is much buzz out there for morrisson, nor do alot of teams draft lbs early in drafts. This leads me to believe that howard or morrisson can be retained for a lowball price, and the raiders can upgrade this position in the second or third round.
    =============================================
    I hope you’re right!

  162. Charged Up for Superbowl Victory Says:

    The next time I have to go the hospital after being assaulted by El Dirty, I will be covered!

  163. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    # Charged Up for Superbowl Victory Says:
    January 11th, 2010 at 3:11 pm

    Subscribe to Insider for as low as $2.50/month to access the complete rumor

    …………..

    LOL.

  164. RaiderDogg Says:

    On this day in history:

    http://www.raiders.com/news/article-1/Greatest-Moments-1980-AFC-Championship/441a0dc2-4157-4094-894d-f30510868aca

  165. mistic1 Says:

    We will most likely see free agent sign with oakland before we now who the coach will be. Davis likes to get the horses and then pick a coach that details a plan on how to use them. Start the vick to oakland campaign now.

  166. Mistabrown Says:

    Let the overhead projector loose already!!!!

  167. los raiders de don rober Says:

    Fire Cable. I don’t know what’s the big hold up. You know Al is gonna fire the fat man. The offense ranks 31st, the D ranks 26th, the Return Game sucks (we have a fullback returning KOs for crying out loud!) 5 wins, Jamarcus got worse, DMac got worse, DHB is pathetic. Randy Hanson case. Wife Beater case. Heck, he’s as overweight as Jamarcus…Oh, and the small matter that the O LINE SUCKS!!!!! Almost got Frye killed twice, got Gradkowski to tear up not one, but both knees in the same game, the running game got worse….why keep this POS?

  168. RaiderDogg Says:

    Charged Up for Superbowl Victory

    What name do you usually post under? You seem VERY familiar…

  169. Charged Up for Superbowl Victory Says:

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20100111/hl_afp/chinapopulationmenmarriage

    China is short on women. This will be the origin of WWIII. China is going to invade someone in order to steal their women.

  170. bjbrown1968 Says:

    HAHAHA. “Captured by Allied bombers”… HAHAHAHAHAHA… Dude can’t even troll well.

  171. Charged Up for Superbowl Victory Says:

    I post as Charged Up and Beeecham.

  172. Charged Up for Superbowl Victory Says:

    It was fun giving you a good smack down Captain Black. I win, just like the Chargers will win the Super Bowl. Don’t forget, you are all invited to my Super Bowl Bash.

  173. spellcheck Says:

    Give RaiderDogg some slack he’s dillusional from his man love for Warren Haynes.

  174. NorthernD Says:

    NFL network just said that Cable met with Al today. Nothing else to report.

  175. Charged Up for Superbowl Victory Says:

    Captain Black just logged back in as Spellcheck.

  176. CaptainBlack Says:

    spellcheck Says:
    January 11th, 2010 at 4:15 pm
    charged up has no momma …he’s a hemmoroid that fell out of some gay guy’s a$$ and started to grow.
    _________________________________
    I didn’t want to be so blunt, but thanks.

  177. 408RAIDER Says:

    Jerry still waiting 4 that fix! wth man??

  178. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    Trade DMAC for Michael Moore!

  179. CaptainBlack Says:

    Somebody said Al would sign a blue chip free agent before a head coach? Anybody else?

  180. r8dr4lfe21 Says:

    Listen Brownie i’m not usually on this late in the afternoon, but i do read some post. You are the one always getting bashed in hear, day in and day out. So my suggestion to you would be.
    A) Pick a subject that you know to talk about, or
    B) Continue being the clown on this blog knowone cares about.
    Pick 1 but dont do both it only makes you look more like a moron then we already know you are.

  181. CaptainBlack Says:

    Jerry, has anybody tried to interview Cable. The look on his face will say it all.

  182. KoolKell Says:

    Davis will probably wait until he’s got somebody else to fire Cable.

  183. Charged Up for Superbowl Victory Says:

    Adios fools! I have to go rock out with my band.

  184. CaptainBlack Says:

    Been there done that!

  185. los raiders de don rober Says:

    adios puñetas!

  186. r8dr4lfe21 Says:

    Later peeps i’m out till manana los vemos.

  187. CaptainBlack Says:

    what about cable?

  188. CaptainBlack Says:

    r8dr4lfe21 Says:
    January 11th, 2010 at 4:24 pm
    Later peeps i’m out till manana los vemos
    Wait, wash my car

  189. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    Trade DMAC for a puñeta!

  190. Zymurge Says:

    To all those that say the Raiders should go after Wilfork, take a look again at the first play from scrimmage in the Bal-NE playoff game. Wilfork gets absolutely punked and Rice runs right through the hole that he vacated. Pretty much the same thing that I hear Kelly and Warren crucified on here all the time. Doesn’t sound like an upgrade to me.

  191. RaiderDogg Says:

    Mistabrown Says:
    January 11th, 2010 at 4:18 pm
    Dogg, remember back 3 weeks ago when you said we could get along because we are both Warriors fans and I told you to go take a flying FK?

    Since that day you are going out of your way to come at me but you are a dumb ignorant kunt..

    Sorry I hurt your feelings, not really though!”

    Actually I was attempting to overlook your misgivings and appeal to a common ground, in order to appease my disdain for everything that you say. I foolishly thought that if you and I could relate on a similar level, I could actually stomach some of the things that you say.

    It was definitely a mistake that I made, which I am unafraid to admit. But don’t get it twisted, my feelings are never hurt by someone that clearly has a lower level IQ than myself and absolutely nothing of value to contribute on a daily basis.

    I will admit, you are such an easy target, you provide evidence of your ignorance several times daily. I feel sorry for anyone that is close to you. They are the ones that have to actually know you and how little you have to contribute in real life.

    I will no longer pick on you and show you the err of your ways. I will let you hang yourself with your own words.

  192. CaptainBlack Says:

    D, you Dog…..

  193. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    Trade the bust DMAC for Wilfork!

  194. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    Zymurge Says:
    January 11th, 2010 at 4:29 pm
    To all those that say the Raiders should go after Wilfork, take a look again at the first play from scrimmage in the Bal-NE playoff game. Wilfork gets absolutely punked and Rice runs right through the hole that he vacated. Pretty much the same thing that I hear Kelly and Warren crucified on here all the time. Doesn’t sound like an upgrade to me.
    ======================================================
    At least Baltimore is a STRONG…READ THAT…STRONG running team.

    The Raiders get housed on the ground week after freeking week.

    Raider fans are a unique lot. We always love to celebrate and hype up terrible players….then when such superstars (read Terdell Sands, Stuart Schweigart and others) get cut…they suddenly find themselves out of the league.

    My guess is if and when Kelly and/or Warren get released, you WILL NOT FIND THEM STARTING ANYWHERE!

  195. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    The Raiders would be FORTUNATE to get Wilfork…Trade that #1 for him. Hell, #1 and #3 for all I care.

  196. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    You can’t win when your lines get manhandled each week.

    The lines make the skill players…not the other way around

  197. KoolKell Says:

    Al Davis,

    Firing Cable and bringing in Gilbride or Fassell will NOT stop the Blackouts!

  198. raiderdav Says:

    i think cable is safe we must have heard something by now!

  199. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    I mean, some of you are actually worried about re-signing Gradkowski. Even giving him a long-term contract…LOL

    Gradkowski is not going anywhere. Give him a 1-yr tender and wait and see

  200. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    Anyone see how the Jets and Ravens protected their young QBs….not saying that JaDavis is capable of getting anywhere close to those guys…but perhaps a little more focus on the running game when the passing game is struggling might have been a good idea.

    Hence, why Cable’s job should be in jeapordy.

    Of course the RAiders need a new GM…but we all know that’s not happening

  201. KoolKell Says:

    They Ran the ball.

  202. RaiderD Says:

    CaptainBlack Says:
    January 11th, 2010 at 4:35 pm
    D, you Dog…..
    ++++++++++++++

    Dont give me that high and mighty Cap u were there too!

  203. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    Trade DMAC for a new post!

  204. KoolKell Says:

    Cable problem was that he tried to please Al Davis too much.

    I had an argument with that idiot Captain Black yesterday about the great Raider teams of the past and their M.O.

    The only time when they passed more than they ran was 63-65′ when Al Davis was Coaching.

    Al Davis trying to make a name for himself by appropriating Sid Gillman’s game.

  205. KoolKell Says:

    Cable’s problem was that he tried to please Al Davis too much.

    I had an argument with that idiot Captain Black yesterday about the great Raider teams of the past and their M.O.

    The only time when they passed more than they ran was 63-65′ when Al Davis was Coaching.

    2009, 485 passing attempts, 410 Rushing attempts.

    With 2 rookie WR’s.

    But Al Davis is such a chickenshyt, he’ll throw his puppet under the bus.

  206. KoolKell Says:

    When Davis had his other puppet, Art Shell in 06′ They were pass happy again

    483 pass attempts
    394 rush attempts

    and all the sacks.

    http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/rai/2006.htm

  207. vegas raider Says:

    Good work on the research last night Kool, I did see it.

    What’s with Al and his pass-happiness? Revisions of Sid Gillman?

    If you have a GREAT QB you can pass more. We don’t even have GOOD QB’s.

  208. KoolKell Says:

    What’s with Al and his pass-happiness? Revisions of Sid Gillman?
    —————————
    Vegas,

    Married to ideology. You feeling me? ;-)

  209. Nnamdi21 Says:

    KK

    Al Davis trying to make a name for himself by appropriating Sid Gillman’s game.

    =======================

    TRYING?!

    3 super bowl titles later…

    Yeah, its been faaaar too long since we’ve been competetive but c’mon, seriously….

  210. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    Excellent statistics Kell.

    I agree with you 100% concerning Al Davis’ buffoonery for the last 25 years. Completely and totally unacceptable performance.

    With that said, I don’t like Tom Cable’s coaching style. The marginalization of Michael Bush is unforgiveable to me. Bush can be a 1200 yard back and can catch the ball. Yet Cable CLEARLY played favorites with mediocre Justin Fargas. Fargas is a backup running back.

    I know what this team is all about in Oakland with Davis calling the shots the way he does. But I am hoping, and that’s all we have, that a competent coach can at least get some of the right players on the field. Namely Michael Bush. He is the key to this team being competitive. We can’t pass…and that likely doesn’t change next year and DMAC/Fargas are plodding running backs.

    Feed Bush, throw about 15x a game, and develop a run defense to keep the score manageable. Maybe we can be competitive in more games than not

  211. mistic1 Says:

    Davis is not the only pro gilman off shoot. You van include the west coast offense as a shortened version of gilman’s scheme using more slants then vertical routes. Also the passing style spread / run and shoot are also derivatives of gilmans scheme. So for everyone that says Davis’s philosophies are behind the times, in actuality people are still trying to catch up with it….all over this league and in the college ranks.

  212. Nnamdi21 Says:

    SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
    January 11th, 2010 at 4:48 pm
    Anyone see how the Jets and Ravens protected their young QBs….not saying that JaDavis is capable of getting anywhere close to those guys…but perhaps a little more focus on the running game when the passing game is struggling might have been a good idea.

    Hence, why Cable’s job should be in jeapordy.

    Of course the RAiders need a new GM…but we all know that’s not happening

    ===============================

    You mean focus on the run game behind a line consisting of Morris, Satele, Carlisle and Green? Lot of injuries and scrubs on the field in case you forgot. Factor that in and consider Oakland probably was at the bottom of the pile in offensive plays ran and viola’.
    Pretty sure DMC and Farg were injured this year too.
    I think you’re right that there needs to be focus on the Raider ground game, but there needs to be some new line men next year.

  213. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    Trade DMAC for pass-happy revisions of Sid Gillman!

  214. vegas raider Says:

    SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
    January 11th, 2010 at 5:16 pm

    Feed Bush, throw about 15x a game, and develop a run defense to keep the score manageable. Maybe we can be competitive in more games than not

    *****************************************

    That should have been the mentality approaching the 2007 NFL Draft. Instead we take Jamarcus, Darren and DHB and Al has some goofy visions of becoming the Dan Fouts Chargers or something.

    Set the franchise back years. In a business sense, they need to cut the fat and start over just like the way you see.

    Bruce, Bush and some O-line help, with a 1st rounder on our Defensive front 7. I would be real happy with that, even if Cable is still the HC.

  215. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    KoolKell Says:
    January 11th, 2010 at 5:13 pm
    Vegas,

    Married to ideology. You feeling me?

    :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::

    EEEWWW. In a seven word to post to another guy, KK mentions marriage and “feeling him”

  216. Nnamdi21 Says:

    KoolKell Says:
    January 11th, 2010 at 5:08 pm
    When Davis had his other puppet, Art Shell in 06′ They were pass happy again

    483 pass attempts
    394 rush attempts

    and all the sacks.

    http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/rai/2006.htm

    ==================================

    Try not to be such and idiot.

    The Raiders HAD to throw the ball more because they were BEHIND.

    2009

    410 rush 485 pass

  217. KoolKell Says:

    Remember that good ole boy Bum Phillips, Coach of the Houston Oilers?

    Talking about Don Shula, he said “He’ll take his’n and beat your’n. then he’ll take your’n and beat his’n.”

    In other words you coach the players you have, don’t force an ideology on them. Teach them to do what they do best.

  218. texguy Says:

    Charged Up For Superbowl Victory Says:
    January 11th, 2010 at 4:23 pm
    Adios fools! I have to go rock out with my band.

    Charged up’s band is a village people tribute band.

  219. Tom cables pimp hand Says:

    Just heard gilbride is considering taking the O coordinator job for the bears, if he’s willing to take a coordinators job for thye bears I don’t see why al wouldn’t consider offering gilbride the coordinators job here with the raiders keeping cable, killing to birds with one stone. This way the players and fans are kept happy and we have some continuity and al gets his play caller all in the same woo wop.

  220. mistic1 Says:

    Are people anti gilman on this post? The pats dynasyty, the rams greatest show on turf, the walsh niners, the farve led packers, the tampa bucs super bowl run, the 09 saints, 09 vikings, and the two broncos superbowl winners. These are a few examples of the gilman /davis offense. Pretty damn good.

  221. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    These are a few examples of the gilman /davis offense. Pretty damn good.

    ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::

    LOL.

  222. KoolKell Says:

    Try not to be such and idiot.

    The Raiders HAD to throw the ball more because they were BEHIND.
    ——————————-
    Nnamdi, are you going to show some common respect, or do I have to abuse your punk ass too?

  223. spellcheck Says:

    Nnamdi…don’t sweat that intellectually challenged real estate pansie

  224. vegas raider Says:

    I’m not against a pass-first offense if you have a great QB. No problem when Rich was throwing 40+ passes a game.

    I am against Al trying to have Jamarcus and DHB play the role of Dan Fouts and Lance Alworth.

    You have to play to your strengths. We have the worst run D. We should have started every game trying to stay close, play the field position and such.

    Instead we dropping Jamarcus back in the shadow of his own goal posts throwing INT’s and fumbling. It was horrendous game management.

  225. 408RAIDER Says:

    village people tribute band<—— Ha!

  226. KoolKell Says:

    Al Davis record as head coach was 16-9.

    The Great Raider years were under Madden, and they pounded the ball, converted on 3rd down with Freddy B, and set up the long ball.

    Bo Chimp, you wouldn’t know a damned thing about it.

  227. Richochet Says:

    # CaptainBlack Says:
    January 11th, 2010 at 4:23 pm

    Charged Up for Superbowl Victory Says:
    January 11th, 2010 at 4:21 pm
    Captain Black, if you saw my mom, you would want to do her. She has a nice rack.
    ____________________________________
    And puzzy, too
    =============================

    Richochet: You tried to get banned again, OakGlenn?
    Why is it every time the meekest of the meek, the weakest of the weak, and the true cotton balls of the board get slapped down, they believe getting banned saves face?

    It doesn’t.
    Just makes you look pathetic.

    HEY..I know…”how can someone tell when you’re not looking pathetic”? They can’t.
    Doesn’t mean you have to try and perfect the fine art..does it?

  228. Thec07 Says:

    Winston Moss to be Raiders new HC????

  229. r8eray Says:

    Good Evening Raider Nation!

  230. M Lonetree Says:

    Has any head coach of the Raiders, whether while as coach or afterward in the past 40 years, ever stated uncategorically that Al Davis game-planned the offensive side of the ball? I don’t recall ever hearing any such thing.

  231. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    Nnamdi21,

    Part of the reason this team was always behind was because of turnovers and multiple 3 and outs….the Raiders needed to take a page out of Kiffin’s handbook and just pound the rock no matter what.

    Sure, some games just won’t work out…especially if the defense is getting smashed….the Raiders should have been trying to smash the ball against the Broncos, Texans, Jets, Redskins, Chiefs, Chargers etc…

    Listen…WE CAN’T PASS THE BALL. Al Davis hasn’t developed a decent QB in 40 years….it is what it is…like KoolKell is pointing out…this team is at its best when it focuses on the run and minimizes the passing attack.

    Even if the O-Line is struggling…gotta keep running it.

    Until Al Davis turns over drafting and hires real coaches…the above is the only chance this team has to win!

  232. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    KoolKell Says:
    January 11th, 2010 at 5:40 pm

    Bo Chimp, you wouldn’t know a damned thing about it.

    ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::

    More monkey/intelligence refernces Archie?

  233. Thec07 Says:

    Who said it was Mr. Davis job to develop anything?
    Mr. avis is in capable of developing anything because the game of NFL football has sailed past the 70’s long time ago…. If he can somehoe get ot of the time warp,
    Hire a GM, and let the GM restructure the org like any
    CEO would then we are talking. Otherwise we will continue to be 4-12, 5-11, 6-10 at best……

  234. SnakeStabler Says:

    Winston Moss
    Assistant Head Coach/Inside Linebackers

    11th NFL Season
    Fourth Packers Season

    Entering his 22nd season in the National Football League and fourth with the Packers, Winston Moss begins his third year in the role of assistant head coach with inside linebacker responsibilities for the first time in ‘09.

    Named to the current post by Head Coach Mike McCarthy on Jan. 15, 2007, Moss impressed McCarthy with his leadership skills when the two worked together for five seasons in New Orleans and again in 2006 in Green Bay. The 43-year-old Moss continues to coach the linebackers as well, his original duty upon joining the Packers. His position responsibility was modified to inside linebackers this year with the switch to a 3-4 defense and the addition of outside linebackers coach Kevin Greene to the staff in 2009.

    In 2008, with the addition of free-agent signee Brandon Chillar and the continued development of Desmond Bishop, Moss had his deepest linebacking corps in Green Bay to date, and it was needed when veteran Nick Barnett was lost for the season to a knee injury in Week 10. A.J. Hawk made a rather seamless transition to middle linebacker to fill Barnett’s spot, while Bishop and Chillar both contributed at Hawk’s former weak-side position.

    The previous year, Moss helped Barnett continue his progression from steady performer to true team leader with a Pro Bowl-caliber year. Barnett was named second-team All-Pro after leading the Packers in tackles for the fourth time in five seasons and posting a career-high 3 sacks along with two interceptions and numerous big plays late in games.

    Meanwhile, Moss continues to develop the talented Hawk, who earned All-Rookie honors in 2006 when he led the team with 155 tackles. He’s also overseen the maturation of Brady Poppinga through his conversion from a college defensive end into a solid strong-side linebacker, a responsibility that now falls to Greene in his new role.

    Moss spent six seasons total with the Saints, where he also coached linebackers. Originally hired by the Saints in 2000 as defensive assistant/quality control, he was promoted to linebackers coach near the end of that season to replace John Bunting, who departed to become head coach at the University of North Carolina.

    Moss began his coaching career in 1998 as a defensive quality control assistant for the Seattle Seahawks, the club where he played his final NFL season.

    A veteran of 11 seasons and 155 NFL games (146 starts), the former linebacker played for the Tampa Bay Buccaneers (1987-90) and the Los Angeles Raiders (1991-94), in addition to the Seahawks (1995-97). Over the course of his career, Moss recorded 768 tackles, 20 sacks and six interceptions, and recovered one fumble for a TD.

    In 1993, when he led the Raiders in tackles on a team that advanced to the AFC Divisional playoffs, he earned the Ed Block Courage Award after a vote of his teammates. Moss also was a three-time defensive captain and received the 1996 NFL Players Association Unsung Hero Award while with the Seahawks.

    A four-time letterman at the University of Miami (Fla.), he and current Packers scout Alonzo Highsmith helped the Hurricanes to the national championship after the 1983 season under Howard Schnellenberger.

    As a prep, Moss attended Miami (Fla.) Southridge High School and was an all-state linebacker.

    Born in Miami, Fla., Winston and his wife, Zoila, have three sons, Winston Jr., 15, Robert, 10, and Marcus, 7, and two daughters, Victoria, 14, and Isabella, 1. In his spare time, Moss enjoys spending time with his family and playing golf.

  235. Rayda23059 Says:

    Any vegas odds on Cables replacement?

  236. Thec07 Says:

    Hire Reggie Mckenzie as GM
    Hire Winston Moss as HC

    Fire Herrea, trask, taylor, and the janitor service at Alameda…..

    Mr. Davis retire….

  237. Lynn from Snot Says:

    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/01/11/lt-creates-one-of-the-cheesiest-videos-ever/

    too much!!

  238. Thec07 Says:

    Rayda23059 Says:
    January 11th, 2010 at 6:04 pm
    Any vegas odds on Cables replacement?

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Funny I went looking for it but could not find anything…

  239. Raider guy Says:

    Why the moss talk?

  240. Thec07 Says:

    Why not?

  241. Raider guy Says:

    Good point

  242. Thec07 Says:

    Old new on what transpired last year…

    http://www.bayareasportblog.com/2009/01/rob-ryan-leaves-for-browns-winston-moss.html

  243. Thec07 Says:

    GM McKenzie
    HC Moss
    These two have a solid history as they both are with GB…..

    Pilage the packers….

    Wishful thinking as a new GM would go against the grain of illogical moves by Mr. Davis…..

  244. Florida Pete Says:

    from PFT

    Per a league source, Davis currently consults with senior executive John Herrera, director of college scouting Jon Kingdon, and general counsel Jeff Birren. That trio primarily tells Davis what they think Davis wants to hear. So if Davis wants to fire Cable, they’ll support it. And if Davis doesn’t want to fire Cable, they’ll support it.

    ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::

    !

  245. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    I think Moss was just a perfunctory Rooney rule interviewee, like Lofton before him.

    Speaking of Lofton, I heard him do commentary on Westwood One radio yesterday – glad we didn’t hire him for HC. Seemed mechanical and passion-less.

  246. vegas raider Says:

    What a dud of a day.

    I thought we would get somewhere today. Instead we get a few words from the philosopher John Herrera.

  247. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    Florida Pete Says:
    January 11th, 2010 at 6:16 pm
    from PFT

    Per a league source, Davis currently consults with senior executive John Herrera, director of college scouting Jon Kingdon…

    “”"”"”"”"”"”"”"”"”"”"”"”"”"”"”"

    Jon Kingdon = Dakota. DMAC = bust.

  248. DKnight007 Says:

    # KoolKell Says:
    January 11th, 2010 at 4:43 pm

    Al Davis,

    Firing Cable and bringing in Gilbride or Fassell will NOT stop the Blackouts!

    ^^^^^^^^^
    True!

  249. Thec07 Says:

    senior executive John Herrera, director of college scouting Jon Kingdon, and general counsel Jeff Birren. That trio
    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++==

    Needs to be fired period…. Jon Kingdon the man behind the DHB pick…. Mr. Davis Should fire him….

  250. Raider guy Says:

    Didn’t GB deny him the opportunity to be the dc? Funny how my mind works, again, different coaches start to seem like they might turn this thing around. I remember thinking that about Shanahan when he replaced Flores. I am a lot more cynical now

  251. DKnight007 Says:

    Florida Pete Says:
    January 11th, 2010 at 6:16 pm

    from PFT

    Per a league source, Davis currently consults with senior executive John Herrera, director of college scouting Jon Kingdon, and general counsel Jeff Birren. That trio primarily tells Davis what they think Davis wants to hear. So if Davis wants to fire Cable, they’ll support it. And if Davis doesn’t want to fire Cable, they’ll support it.

    ^^^^^^^^^^
    Yep….just Al Davis’ cronies trying to keep their NFL job, since they wouldn’t work for any other NFL team.

  252. Thec07 Says:

    Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
    January 11th, 2010 at 6:16 pm
    I think Moss was just a perfunctory Rooney rule interviewee, like Lofton before him.
    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    I am not so sure about that. He would have made a way better coach than tom cable, he is the kinda coach that will kick a guys A$$ if he gets out of line….

  253. Raider guy Says:

    Like Singletary? I already see the shine tarnishing on that guy.

  254. Thec07 Says:

    We need a GM first…. Let the GM work out how he runs the ORG….. First order of business after Mr. Davis retires is to get all the information from the lackeys,
    yes men, and hangers on then fire them all…..

  255. Thec07 Says:

    Raider guy Says:
    January 11th, 2010 at 6:22 pm
    Like Singletary? I already see the shine tarnishing on that guy.

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++=

    Just like singletary… He needs a real OCO niners will make the playoffs way before we will. sigletary needs to back off the OCO, they should have kept martz IMHO…

  256. KoolKell Says:

    Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
    January 11th, 2010 at 5:23 pm

    EEEWWW. In a seven word to post to another guy, KK mentions marriage and “feeling him”
    —————————–
    STFU with your stupid insecure shyt. Is anal sex the only thing on your pea brain?

  257. r8eray Says:

    Vegas, your right “dud of a day”!
    This day was anticipated by many with little result!

  258. DKnight007 Says:

    This is why these cronies of Al’s do all they can to please the old man.

    If a REAL GM/Personnel Man is hired with a REAL HC like Harbaugh, then Herrera, Kingdon, Birren know damn well, they are all FIRED!

  259. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    I disagree Thec. At best, Lofton comes across like Dungy. More of an intellectual ass kicker, while this team needed a firm leader.

    Cable has, if nothing else, change the “stupidest team” attitude. Now we just have the stupidest upper management.

  260. Thec07 Says:

    Jon Kingdon…….ROFLMAO…… what a waste….

    Mr. Davis if you fire anyone fire these bootlick yes men that surround you….

  261. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    KK, please stop posting things that make mature people cringe. OK?

  262. Rayda23059 Says:

    Moss is a bit of a stretch. Al will need to make a big splash (on several fronts) to fill the seats.

  263. KoolKell Says:

    Exactly, Herrera is doing his best to discourage Al from hiring a GM.

  264. r8eray Says:

    We must be the stupidest team in America!!!

  265. Thec07 Says:

    Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
    January 11th, 2010 at 6:26 pm
    I disagree Thec. At best, Lofton comes across like Dungy. More of an intellectual ass kicker, while this team needed a firm leader.

    Cable has, if nothing else, change the “stupidest team” attitude. Now we just have the stupidest upper management.

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++=

    Bo i didnt make a cooment about lofton….

  266. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    Maybe Jon Kingdon is Carol Davis’ astrologer. Kind of a Nancy Reagan type situation.

    “I see powerful opportunities in the DHB constellation Mr. Davis”

  267. Rayda23059 Says:

    I thought Whorerra was the GM

  268. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    Oh. Moss, I get it. LOL.

  269. Thec07 Says:

    The Raider puzsle is simple

    GM
    HC

    Clean house…..

    out

  270. Glutten for Punishment Says:

    how many coaches can one hire before it works out? we are due!

  271. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
    January 11th, 2010 at 6:28 pm
    KK, please stop posting things that make mature people cringe.

  272. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    Those Eagles and Bengals fans are crazy. Calling out their QBs like that. I would be overjoyed if the Raiders could get Palmer or McNabb. Period…after watching some of the worst QB play in NFL history in each of the last 7 years……….having a Palmer or McNabb would actually make watching Raider football somewhat enjoyable again.

    Tell those Bengal or Eagle fans to walk a mile in our collective shoes.

    WE have to worst offense in modern football history

    An incompetent head coach

    Clueless front office

    and a roster littered with holes, gaps and problems

  273. KoolKell Says:

    .having a Palmer or McNabb would actually make watching Raider football somewhat enjoyable again.
    —————————–
    Unless they were put in the Al Davis, Bed & Breakfast offense, 7 step straight drop offense.

  274. Raider guy Says:

    We are the modern bengals of about ten years ago. Remember how bad those teams were? how bad the drafts? how bad the front office? That is us now.

  275. Mistabrown Says:

    And you know this how? They told you at the Barbershop?

    __________________

    # KoolKell Says:
    January 11th, 2010 at 6:30 pm

    Exactly, Herrera is doing his best to discourage Al from hiring a GM.

  276. fletcher Says:

    Leave it to Al Davis to screw with the media yet again. Lift the dark cloud Al …. There is enough going on in the sporting world… It’s not big head lines any more when the RAIDERS fire a coach! Yeah, Cable probably should be fired but who do think Al will hire? Cable was in way over his head… Probably the worst play call ever. Poor utilization of skill sets. M. Bush consistantley left him 3rd and something manageable yet constantly it was low pecentage throws down the field with an o line that had qb’s running for thier life.
    This team has talent at skill positions it just has too many of Al ‘ s pet projects.

  277. Rayda23059 Says:

    KoolKell Says:
    January 11th, 2010 at 6:48 pm
    .having a Palmer or McNabb would actually make watching Raider football somewhat enjoyable again.
    —————————–
    Unless they were put in the Al Davis, Bed & Breakfast offense, 7 step straight drop offense.


    True, but SD is winning with a 7 step drop (Norvelle) system. Rivers is an ass, but does have game.

  278. Mistabrown Says:

    KoolKell has no clue the economy is in the tank but he knows what John Herrera is doing behind closed doors in Alameda.

    Ok KoolKell..

  279. Raider guy Says:

    I wonder what willie brown and jim otto are saying to al. They have to have some perspective that they can or have shared with al.

  280. KoolKell Says:

    Brownstains

    I guess this economy is hurting you real bad, eh? lol.

    Cant you go collect some bottles or something?

  281. Rayda23059 Says:

    I don’t think it’s about what is said to Al, but more what is listened to.

  282. Mistabrown Says:

    No I just like making a fool of you..

    _______________________

    # KoolKell Says:
    January 11th, 2010 at 7:01 pm

    Brownstains

    I guess this economy is hurting you real bad, eh? lol.

    Cant you go collect some bottles or something?

  283. Raider guy Says:

    But when people are putting up billboards and newspaper ads and seven years of garbage on the field, doesn’t it seem like a time for one of those guys to talk to al…an intervention?

  284. KoolKell Says:

    Mistabrown Says:
    January 11th, 2010 at 7:05 pm

    No I just like making a fool of you..
    =============================
    Making a fool of ME, really? lol.

  285. Rayda23059 Says:

    Al is desperate right now. I do think that he confides in madden. maybe its wishful thinking but if they are friends like so many reports would lead you to believe, then maybe a big change is coming.

  286. Mistabrown Says:

    Its not much work..

    # KoolKell Says:
    January 11th, 2010 at 7:08 pm

    Making a fool of ME, really? lol.

  287. KoolKell Says:

    Raider Guy Says:
    January 11th, 2010 at 7:06 pm

    But when people are putting up billboards and newspaper ads and seven years of garbage on the field, doesn’t it seem like a time for one of those guys to talk to al…an intervention?
    —————————
    Jerry & David make it sem like his inner-circle is getting smaller and smaller. Of course that’s natural when your 80 years old, and can’t get around.

  288. Raider guy Says:

    As a matter of fact, I heard that madden was saying that he thought al needed to hire some gm type in an interview a while ago. Something like “I think even al knows it is time to hire someone…”

  289. Raider guy Says:

    Kell, or you keep alienating more and more people

  290. Raider guy Says:

    like he has with the fans

  291. KoolKell Says:

    Raider Guy Says:
    January 11th, 2010 at 7:18 pm

    like he has with the fans
    —————————-
    This is something new for Al Davis, the fans are not having it anymore. He’s being openly questioned. They had the lowest attendance in the league this year. Only the home opener sold out, barely. 7 straight blackouts.
    AND, look for the Opener to be blackout next year, UNLESS CREDIBLE change is perceived by the fans. Period. I think even he has to acknowledge that.

  292. Raider guy Says:

    I completely agree. That is why making cable makes sense on one hand, but in the bigger picture, AL has to do something bigger than that to right this thing.

  293. KoolKell Says:

    The usual Al Davis off-season Dog n’ Pony show will not fly this time. Hiring another Head Coach off the scrap heap, and a flashy FA signing, etc. Is no longer credible. Been doing that for the last 7 years to no avail.

    The line has been crossed, the billboards are up, the ads are out, and the tickets are still in the office.

  294. Raider guy Says:

    Do you remember that “fire that burns brightest is the fire to win” speech he made? I love that he isn’t a bill biwell who never cared about winning but making money. But if that fire is real then EVERYONE has to take a look at what has been going on. Six coaches, all those qbs, coordinators, free agents, drafts. THis is all on Al and no objective observer could argue.

  295. Mistabrown Says:

    KK is the village idiot.

    # Raider guy Says:
    January 11th, 2010 at 7:17 pm

    Kell, or you keep alienating more and more people

  296. Thec07 Says:

    I was in the bay area last weds on business…Saw the billboard, it was and is a work of art…..

    Speaks volumes as to the plight of this once great franchise…..

    My favorite team, and the best NFL team ever the 76′ raiders…… But those days are long gone,
    Mr. Davis needs to hire a GM and step aside….

    Look at who you take information from jon kingdon…
    He should hve ben fired during the draft when we took
    DHB… Acually he should have been fired for the last several years of draft picks… worst personnel dept in the NFL worst GM, worst Head coach zero OCO…..

  297. KoolKell Says:

    I’ve always appreciated the fact that Davis was not a Bidwell type, only interested in profit.

    It’s just that his time has passed, simple as that.

    I don’t have a problem with him as Owner. Just General Manager.

    Actually, as Owner he’s been unable to secure a new stadium for decades. Alienated every municipality on the West Coast.

    And quite frankly, he never did it all by himself when the Raiders were great. Ron Wolf, John Madden.

  298. r8eray Says:

    New post!

  299. Thec07 Says:

    This is on Mr. Davis and his minions herrera trask taylor kingdon…lol and that other boot lick jeff birren….

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