Brown gets Sirius on Raiders
By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Thursday, January 14th, 2010 at 2:45 pm in Oakland Raiders.
Transcription of an interview with Tim Brown by hosts Adam Schein and Rich Gannon on Sirius Satellite Radio:
Q: If you reached out to Al Davis, what would you tell Al about how to fix the Oakland Raiders?
Brown: I think it’s pretty simple, man. I think he really just needs a football guy in there to help him out. The one thing I tell people about Al Davis, there’s no doubt – and Rich, I’m sure, can vouch for this – Al Davis knows football. It’s not a matter of him not knowing football. I can remember even going back to my rookie year sitting at the Super Bowl with him in the booth, the great game when the 49ers came back and beat the Bengals, and he called that last drive play by play. And he kept asking me, ‘What do you think Timma,’ he calls me Timma, ‘What do you think on this play, Timma?’ And I would say, ‘Slant to Jerry Rice.’ [He’d say,] ‘No, they’re going to throw it to Roger Craig.’ Boom. And he went all the way down the field doing that.
That really convinced me that this guy knows football for sure.’ I think now what is happening is you have guys in the locker room that just don’t get it. They don’t understand. And certainly, the way the thing ended. I leave sort of unexpectedly. Jerry Rice wants out. Rich gets hurt. Jerry Porter wants out. Charles Woodson wanted out. You had a lot of guys trying to get out of the organization or leaving the organization unexpectedly. And that’s hard to do anytime you have veteran football players who have been great for the organization. When they get out like that, when they leave unexpectedly, it can be a very difficult thing to recover from. And I just don’t think they have recovered. They don’t have great veteran leadership and I think it’s very safe to say that. It’s a team that is talented but they just don’t have the leadership, I believe, to take them to the next level.
Q: Your evaluation of JaMarcus Russell?
Brown: When you look at JaMarcus, you know, the Raiders sort of called me unofficially before they drafted him and they asked me what did I think? And I told them then that I didn’t think this guy was a player. I thought it would take three to four years before he developed because I was at that LSU-Notre Dame game and I watched this guy intently warming up and throwing balls before the game and during the game and what I saw was not an NFL quarterback. It was a sandlot player, a guy who can go back there, pat the ball five times and then throw it with that velocity he has in his arm.
But, Rich, you know better than me, you don’t have five pats in the NFL. You’ve got about a pat and a half and then somebody’s about to take your head off. And when he tried to throw the ball on time it came out like a rocket. So I thought it would take significant time for this guy to develop how to drop back and throw the ball, a catchable ball that a receiver could maneuver and go on with. So I’m not surprised what has happened with him. You throw in the fact that, from what I hear, he doesn’t have the great work ethic that every quarterback has to have, that’s going to equal failure in the NFL any day of the week.
Q: Evaluation of Darrius Heyward-Bey?
Brown: When it comes to Heyward-Bey, I’ve seen Al do this several times. He had Sam Graddy, he had Alexander Wright, James Jett turned out to be a decent player for them, played 10 years and made some incredible plays, and I’m sure Al sees Heyward-Bey as being a guy who can do the same things. The only problem, what happened was they didn’t have a guy who was ‘the guy’ at the receiver position. If they would have had that then they could have hid him a little more and gave him a time to get right.
But being that they didn’t have that in place already, all the focus was on him and then all the other receivers that came out this year, you know, you have [Michael] Crabtree coming in very late and dwarfing Heyward-Bey’s numbers by so many. I think it just made it look like an even worse pick than everybody thought it was already. So I think this kid will develop into something. Obviously he has some talent but he really had some problems catching the ball. Watching him on television I think he really had some perception problems picking up the ball and until they get that straightened out I think it’s going to be long, long career for him.
Q: On wanting to work with young Raiders receivers:
Brown: I would love to do it and I’ve said that. I’ve reached out to them and said, ‘Hey, give me a couple days with this guy and I can give you a real assessment of where he is and we go from there.’ I’m on my way right now to work with a couple of young college guys, [Kansas WR] Dez Brisco and [Brandon] LaFell out of LSU. I would love to be able to pass on what God blessed me with to these younger guys but sometimes it’s a lot more difficult than we think it is.
Q: What’s the Raiders’ reaction when you say you want to work with these guys?
Brown: Well, you know, everybody says ok but the phone never rings. … I’m never going to step on anybody’s toes. I’ll throw the offer out there and I’m not asking to get paid for it or anything. I just don’t like, my name is so synonymous with the Raiders, that to hear people week in and week out dogging this organization, it’s very hurtful to me. It’s something that I have to deal with. So I have a vested interest in seeing this thing get turned around.
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January 14th, 2010 at 2:46 pm
Keep Cable
January 14th, 2010 at 2:46 pm
Never said I was superior oldkell.
January 14th, 2010 at 2:47 pm
Simon Says:
January 14th, 2010 at 2:35 pm
There is no doubt that among true fans, Big AL is a legend,
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Nonsense.
January 14th, 2010 at 2:49 pm
Al can’t get a football guy, Tim. Nobody will work for him. Madden won’t work for him. Made himself available by leaving his t.v. job then took a job with the NFL, Al’s enemies, in case anyone needs to be reminded. The only football person who even offered to help Al is Rich Gannon, and according to John Herrera, the Raiders evidently aren’t interested and don’t need the help. Fair enough. All we can do is sit back and laugh at the train wreck.
January 14th, 2010 at 2:50 pm
Then there’s Brownstains, he’s gotta be the unhappiest person in the world!
These losers have no interest in the Raiders or football in general. Just releasing their frustrations with life. Patheric.
January 14th, 2010 at 2:51 pm
Norco Bob Says:
January 14th, 2010 at 2:42 pm
It seems in here you guys try and out do each other with cutting and pasting,..so far oldkell is the leader.
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Bree
If you’re so superior to us regulars, why do you hang out here 24/7?
You’re such a loser.
January 14th, 2010 at 2:51 pm
Al is a moron.
Free work Tim Brown, a HOF, is offering. What team wouldn’t take free work from a Hall of Famer?
I think John Herrera is pulling an Anna Nicole-Smith with Al Davis. He’s kissing his ass all the way to being some type of team executive in the estate.
January 14th, 2010 at 2:51 pm
This was a great interview. listened to it live on sirius. Wish against all odds they’d let Gannon and Brown around for a week to pass on some knowledge.
January 14th, 2010 at 2:51 pm
Ah, havin another bad day oldkell? cheer up dude.
January 14th, 2010 at 2:52 pm
# Seymour Bush Says:
January 14th, 2010 at 2:45 pm
Mistabr0wn Says:
January 14th, 2010 at 2:35 pm
I see OakGlen is back, had to change his name to avoid embarrassment.
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with all due respects MistaBrOwn I have seen about half a dozen people call you names in here, and that’s been in just the last two days. And you are calling other people embarrasments? You might want to look in the mirror pal, that’s where the real joke is.
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THANKS FOR PROVING MY POINT..lol..you idiot.
What you mean to say is “Under my other handle, Richochet slapped me around like a ping pong ball..so immediately upon signing in under this new silly name, I rush to act like a big boy and call him out. Mr. B also slapped me around like I was a defenseless redheaded ugly kid, so now I feel braver calling him out as well”
the only thing left out is you stating “IT’S OK, WHEN I FEEL LIKE A COMPLETE FLUSTERED LOSER..LIKE BEFORE..I’LL JUST CREATE ANOTHER HANDLE, AND START OVER”
Yeah, we know, lol…big time.
January 14th, 2010 at 2:52 pm
# Mistabr0wn Says:
January 14th, 2010 at 2:44 pm
FoolKell go lick Barback 0bamas boots.
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Oooooh. Go lick Obama’s boots! Good one. Your superior political put downs are just intimidating, MB. I for one am scared.
January 14th, 2010 at 2:53 pm
Tim Brown…you were great…except for the three rolls of tape you put on your fingers lol
January 14th, 2010 at 2:53 pm
Ooooh, Kell, Norco told you to cheer up. He said you’re angry. Oooooh. My god, they’re coming up with some rough put downs today, aren’t they? Norco, please don’t accuse me of being angry, and tell me to cheer up, and such. Please don’t! I’m scared. Jerry, ban him, please!
January 14th, 2010 at 2:54 pm
There will be one very awkward moment when Davis speaks to cable today. And that will be when Davis asks him, ” Can you win with JaMarcus as your starting quarterback.”
How Cable answers that question will determine if stays or goes…
January 14th, 2010 at 2:55 pm
Exactly, Northern D.
January 14th, 2010 at 2:55 pm
Fire Jamarcus for cause!!
January 14th, 2010 at 2:55 pm
richochet maybe I am missing something, but I don’t see the mental capacity for you and MistabrOwn to slap around anything. Other than in your own delusional worlds.
January 14th, 2010 at 2:55 pm
You ok MR?…too much pepsi today?
January 14th, 2010 at 2:56 pm
Warren Sapp Rips Into Tom Cable
By JOE KUKURA
Updated 2:37 PM PST, Thu, Jan 14, 2010
Former Oakland Raiders Warren Sapp seemed like he might be having a good behavior day when he appeared Wednesday on The Dan Patrick show. When given a chance to pile on and rag on his former Raider coach Lane Kiffin, Sapp demurred and played the nice guy.
“For me to say something about the man right now, would be a little, you know, disingenuous,” Sapp told Patrick.
But when given a chance to rip on the Raiders’ current coach, Sapp unleashed his inner Raider-hater on the embattled Tom Cable. In a segment still available online, Sapp questions Cable’s ability to serve as even an assistant coach in the NFL, let alone a head coach.
“Tom Cable don’t even know that the defensive lineman knows his protection when he goes into a ballgame,” Sapp said. “I was standing in front of the man, he tells me to rush his offensive line. I said, ‘Okay, what set are you coming out in?’ He looks at me and says, ‘What? No, I just want you to rush.’”
“I said, ‘Let me understand this. You’re gonna break the huddle, you come out into a formation. It’ll be two receivers, three receivers, whatever you want to do. But there’s some way you have to protect. And I would know that, 90% of the time. He looked at me like I was speaking Chinese.”
Well, Warren Sapp, I just typed those words verbatim and I’m having trouble making narrative sense of them, too. But what I think Sapp’s getting at is something like a Bill Callahan, Super-Bowl-against-the-Buccaneers situation where the opposing defense can easily figure out the offense’s playcalls.
Patrick asked if Cable has earned another year as Raiders coach, and Sapp questioned Cable’s qualification to even be a head coach in the first place.
“He’s not qualified to be an offensive line coach in my book,” Sapp said. “Because he doesn’t know I know which way his center’s going 90% of the time. He blew my mind with that one. I said, ‘Son, you think I got all these sacks ’cause I’m guessing which way the center’s going?’”
Since all five hundred pounds of Sapp are firmly on the Fire Tom Cable bandwagon, who would Sapp recommend as a new Raiders coach?
Sapp answered with a question, “Didn’t Fassel always want this job?”
“He wants any job, Warren!” Patrick wisecracked back.
Sapp’s other recommendation? “I like Mike Leach. Anybody who puts some points on the board, I like that guy.”
Gosh, almost makes you wish that Warren Sapp would have had a coach like Mike Leach in his formative years.
Joe Kukura is a freelance writer who has to admit that Warren Sapp can be pretty funny when he rags on a team other than the Raiders.
January 14th, 2010 at 2:56 pm
Im still hoping russell gets traded to kc or denver, like I wanted 2 years ago. and you all got mad at me for wanting that. lol
January 14th, 2010 at 2:57 pm
The Raiders need an organized guy to be the middle man between Al and the team (ala Bruce Allen). It doesn’t matter if he’s a cap guy or personnel guy, he just needs someone he trusts to be able to reason with him. Herrera is supposed to be filling that spot, but he’s a spineless jellyfish.
January 14th, 2010 at 2:58 pm
richochet do you really think I am that Oakglen guy? Weren’t you accusing someone else of being him just two days ago? Whoever that Oakglen guy is, he owns you. You’re freaked out by him.
January 14th, 2010 at 2:59 pm
Gannon, tim brown,.these guys cant seem to get a coaching job, so they publicly ask for one in oakland,…sounds desperate,..no thanks would be my answer too.
January 14th, 2010 at 2:59 pm
He’s not qualified to be an offensive line coach in my book,” Sapp said. “Because he doesn’t know I know which way his center’s going 90% of the time. He blew my mind with that one. I said, ‘Son, you think I got all these sacks ’cause I’m guessing which way the center’s going?’”
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LMAO
January 14th, 2010 at 2:59 pm
Im the original oakglenn,..and MR,..I think Dakota too, cant remember.
January 14th, 2010 at 2:59 pm
Bree the Wannabe
I’m not having a bad day, a good one actually. I’m just curious about the physiological needs of people like you with low self-esteem.
January 14th, 2010 at 2:59 pm
Oh my god, he accused me of having too much pepsi! I can’t take it anymore, Jerry. Please ban him! Accusing people of drinking pepsi is WAY WAY over the line. We don’t need that kind of discourse here.
January 14th, 2010 at 3:00 pm
Kiffin is all over the news today. What’s this have to do with the Raiders? It’s the reason Al’s holding off his announcement of firing Cable. That’s what.
January 14th, 2010 at 3:01 pm
Sapp today said fassel should be next coach, for those of you who listen to sapp,..I dont.
January 14th, 2010 at 3:01 pm
ok most
January 14th, 2010 at 3:01 pm
Ah,..really MR?…did Al tell you that?…Herrera?…lol
January 14th, 2010 at 3:01 pm
Norco, where have Gannon and Brown tried to get coaching jobs?
January 14th, 2010 at 3:01 pm
“And when he tried to throw the ball on time it came out like a rocket. So I thought it would take significant time for this guy to develop how to drop back and throw the ball, a catchable ball that a receiver could maneuver and go on with.”
The receivers can’t adjust to the ball in flight. He throws too fast to adjust to an inaccurate pass. I sure JaMarcus throws the ball with as much accuracy as Frye, but the receivers can make the adjustment and come up with the catch.
Or else JaMarcus ties to take a little off, and can’t control it. Like when a pitcher tries to aim the ball instead of throwing it.
Davis is always saying you can’t teach speed. Well, accuray is the most difficult thing to teach a quarterback. If a QB is accuarate to start with, then the rest can be taught. JaMarcus may (and probably won’t) never develop the touch needed to be an NFL QB.
January 14th, 2010 at 3:02 pm
Norco, did Tim Brown and Rich Gannon tell you they tried unsuccessfully to get jobs elsewhere, and that’s why they’re reaching out to the Raiders? Because you’re the first person I’ve heard it from.
January 14th, 2010 at 3:03 pm
Gannon and brown both have been asking to coach in oakland for years, brown has anyway, this is gannons first year asking,…neither would “help out” for free.
January 14th, 2010 at 3:03 pm
Well Im happy to bring you up to speed MR, youre welcome.
January 14th, 2010 at 3:04 pm
Our scouting department just calls former players and asks “whatchyathink about so and so?”
Classic.
January 14th, 2010 at 3:04 pm
Jamarcus throws a Mariano Riviera like cutter sometimes. Nobody can catch it, offense or defense, and because he throws so hard, it is cutting, moving and fluttering if not a perfect spiral.
January 14th, 2010 at 3:05 pm
Tim Brown is a punk,..I pray he doesnt get in Hall this year,..couldnt carry Rice`s jock.
January 14th, 2010 at 3:06 pm
The modern day pool of coaches willing to work in Oakland:
Sapp answered with a question, “Didn’t Fassel always want this job?”
“He wants any job, Warren!” Patrick wisecracked back.
January 14th, 2010 at 3:06 pm
Dakota,
Thanks for posting that article. Very informative.
January 14th, 2010 at 3:06 pm
When Warren Sapp talks about line play, he’s got credibility.
A helluva lot more then Bree the Wannabe, no?
January 14th, 2010 at 3:06 pm
I hope Brown never makes it to Hall,..doesnt deserve it.
January 14th, 2010 at 3:07 pm
Krappy, so relieved you’re still alive! Man, I thought with your new case of Alzheimer’s you’d have locked yourself in the pantry and would be breast feeding cereal boxes all day.
Anyway, ol Krap, this is me – your old pal Beeecham – remember? We’ve been best blog buddies for years now and spent last Summer vacationing in your chalet in Switzerland.
Remember that awesome afternoon when I took your wife out fishing while you stayed home and made crepes from scratch?
You know, that was the time her and I were gone all afternoon because our clothes were mysteriously washed off at the same time by that crazy river tide.
Anyway, I’ve rallied all the cool Raider bloggers to give you extra special attention until you start to regain some of your memory.
Dakota should be over in a few hours with a bucket of Popeye’s and Mystic Pizza on DVD. So hang in there, you silly old goat!
January 14th, 2010 at 3:07 pm
When have I talked about line play old man?…dang, you really are senile arent ya? lol
January 14th, 2010 at 3:07 pm
Norco, what coaching jobs did Brown and Gannon apply for? Are you ever going to name them? Or does your lie sound better if you spare the bogus details?
January 14th, 2010 at 3:07 pm
Norco,
Do you work for the Raiders? How would you know if Brown or Gannon have been trying to get coaching gigs? Sounds like you’re talking out of your azzzz.
January 14th, 2010 at 3:07 pm
I wouldn’t be suprised if they bring in Fassel for an interview, while Cable is still employed.
January 14th, 2010 at 3:08 pm
Beeacham, lay off that old fool, arent you aware of the humiliation he endures every day?…people in his real world, you know they laugh behind his back…lol…poor old man.
January 14th, 2010 at 3:08 pm
# Seymour Bush Says:
January 14th, 2010 at 2:58 pm
richochet do you really think I am that Oakglen guy? Weren’t you accusing someone else of being him just two days ago? Whoever that Oakglen guy is, he owns you. You’re freaked out by him.
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WTF??
Are you retarded?
I never said you were Oakglen, dumbass.
I said Oakglenn is Captain Black.
Damn..you are an idiot kid, aren’t you?
Now..back to the challenge..YOU’RE A CROSS POSTING LOSER.
You JUST signed in under this name..and post proving you’ve been here awhile.
Question is, again, LOSER, do you have the balls to state your old handle?
Of course you don’t…your ball less ass changed handles BECAUSE YOU HAVE NO BALLS.
January 14th, 2010 at 3:08 pm
Guys, newsflash:
Norco Bob doesn’t want Tim Brown in the hall of fame. Just in case any of you missed his 10 or so comments about it in the past 2 minutes.
January 14th, 2010 at 3:09 pm
I always eat Tacos while watching Mystic Pizza…sorry.
January 14th, 2010 at 3:09 pm
Norco Bob needs to layoff the narcotics.
January 14th, 2010 at 3:09 pm
KoolKell Says:
January 14th, 2010 at 2:50 pm
Then there’s Brownstains, he’s gotta be the unhappiest person in the world!
These losers have no interest in the Raiders or football in general. Just releasing their frustrations with life. Patheric.
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lmao
January 14th, 2010 at 3:09 pm
Tim brown has said many times, on whatever radio show that will have him on, that he would love to be back in oakland, coaching,…gannon just started this year,…youre welcome.
January 14th, 2010 at 3:09 pm
They both suck, wouldnt allow them in the building, and the raiders wont either.
January 14th, 2010 at 3:11 pm
re: MR,…here it is again, in case you missed it,..Tim Brown was the most overrated player in nfl history, not getting in Hall this year, or ever,…Jerry Rice was great, Brown a wannabe decent receiver,..I never want that punk in Hall.
January 14th, 2010 at 3:11 pm
Kiffin in hot water already. Contacting Tennessee recruits telling them not to enroll early at UT and decide to join him in USC. NCAA violations just seem to pile up around this weasel.
January 14th, 2010 at 3:11 pm
Oh Noooorco…..
you said that Gannon and Brown are only reaching out to the Raiders after being rejected from other coaching jobs. What jobs? Are you ever going to tell us? Or is your subtle way of owning up to your lie to just stop talking about it? Clever strategy.
January 14th, 2010 at 3:11 pm
My sources in Oakland tell me that Cable had to let Herrera give him a dirty sanchez just to get this meeting with Al to beg for his job.
January 14th, 2010 at 3:11 pm
Tim brown wasnt half as good as chris carter and hes not in.
January 14th, 2010 at 3:12 pm
# KoolKell Says:
January 14th, 2010 at 3:06 pm
When Warren Sapp talks about line play, he’s got credibility.
A helluva lot more then Bree the Wannabe, no?
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Let’s not forget Bree getting all giddy as hell because “I talked to Monte Poole..I did..I DID. GO ASK HIM ABOUT THE SHORT FAT BLACK MAN THAT TALKED TO HIM..HE’LL TELL YA..he will, he will.”
I’m happy for Br ien..talking to Monte is such lofty aspirations.
January 14th, 2010 at 3:12 pm
Norco Bob Says:
January 14th, 2010 at 3:11 pm
re: MR,…here it is again, in case you missed it,..Tim Brown was the most overrated player in nfl history, not getting in Hall this year, or ever,…Jerry Rice was great, Brown a wannabe decent receiver,..I never want that punk in Hall.”
How is it that a person with the 3rd most receptions in NFL history be over rated? Come on man, you are just trying to piss people off. At least come with something valid if you are trying to start sh1t. This is just laughable.
January 14th, 2010 at 3:12 pm
Weasel? Wow, RaiderDogg. Calm down, man.
January 14th, 2010 at 3:12 pm
MR,..you seem annoyed with me,..maybe you should move along to another blogger in here,…hang in there junior.
January 14th, 2010 at 3:13 pm
Dakota Says:
January 14th, 2010 at 3:11 pm
My sources in Oakland tell me that Cable had to let Herrera give him a dirty sanchez just to get this meeting with Al to beg for his job.”
Heard the very same thing.
January 14th, 2010 at 3:13 pm
doggshyt, if its laughable, then laugh, and not cry.
January 14th, 2010 at 3:13 pm
Norco,
What coaching jobs did Gannon and Brown try to get? Are you trying to google it in another window right now, looking for any stupid rumor that they tried to brown nose their way onto some job somewhere, to back up your lie? Of course you are. What a dork.
January 14th, 2010 at 3:14 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
January 14th, 2010 at 3:12 pm
Weasel? Wow, RaiderDogg. Calm down, man.
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Oops MR did I offend you with the weasel comment? Maybe I should have just said liar…
January 14th, 2010 at 3:14 pm
Drama Queen.
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The Real MaddenRaider Says:
January 14th, 2010 at 2:59 pm
Oh my god, he accused me of having too much pepsi!
January 14th, 2010 at 3:14 pm
We should start a “Top 10″ list for NorcoDorko.
“Top 10 dumbest things I can say so someone will argue about it with me..I’m an attention whore, and proud of it.”
I think you’re up to 6 or so, NorcoDorko
January 14th, 2010 at 3:14 pm
Have to get back to you on that MR,..my google is out of order.
January 14th, 2010 at 3:14 pm
That should be Herrera’s new nickname, Anna Nicole Smith.
Flirting with some old-man, in a sense, to get money, a job and paid when he dies.
Sad. Wouldn’t be suprised if Herrera ass-kisses his way into some type of permanent position when the old guy eventually goes and ownership is transferred.
January 14th, 2010 at 3:15 pm
Let me know when Im number one bro…thanks.
January 14th, 2010 at 3:15 pm
Norco Bob Says:
January 14th, 2010 at 3:13 pm
doggshyt, if its laughable, then laugh, and not cry.
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The only person crying is you, when the pharmacy refuses to refill your Norco prescription. Try not to get ripped off too badly from some fool on craigslist this time. How’s your liver btw? lmao.
January 14th, 2010 at 3:15 pm
MB just called me a drama queen. I’m crushed.
Norco, so you did lie about Gannon and Brown trying to get coaching jobs, didn’t you? Why? Do you normally lie to get attention?
January 14th, 2010 at 3:15 pm
vegas raider Says:
January 14th, 2010 at 3:07 pm
I wouldn’t be suprised if they bring in Fassel for an interview, while Cable is still employed.
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Maybe they can get Cable to do the interview.
January 14th, 2010 at 3:16 pm
Dogg, what happened to Norco with craigslist? Sounds like a funny story.
January 14th, 2010 at 3:17 pm
Brown NEVER asked to coach..stated he would gladly help out for free.
Gannon? Stated I DON’T WANT TO COACH..that he has been offered numerous times to coach, and has no desire for it.
Was in the reply after Herrera’s comments about “Maybe Gannon needs help”
FYI
January 14th, 2010 at 3:17 pm
Notice how MB doesn’t talk politics anymore since I asked him to name one Republican who he thinks can beat Obama?
January 14th, 2010 at 3:18 pm
I actually dont take Norco anymore,..I should reregister my name to Soma Bob,..that stuff hits the spot,..havent had a Norco for about 9 months.
January 14th, 2010 at 3:18 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
January 14th, 2010 at 3:16 pm
Dogg, what happened to Norco with craigslist? Sounds like a funny story.”
Had to listen to him cry one night on here because some guy he met on craigslist was supposed to meet him to sell him some Norco/Vicodin. Dude never showed and Norco actually had to go a night without his precious Norco. He was a mess. It was pure comedy gold.
January 14th, 2010 at 3:18 pm
Richochet, I know that. But Norco Bob for some reason said that Gannon and Brown were trying to get coaching jobs, couldn’t get them, so that’s why they reached out to the Raiders. Of course, he lied.
January 14th, 2010 at 3:19 pm
# RaiderDogg Says:
January 14th, 2010 at 3:18 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
January 14th, 2010 at 3:16 pm
Dogg, what happened to Norco with craigslist? Sounds like a funny story.”
Had to listen to him cry one night on here because some guy he met on craigslist was supposed to meet him to sell him some Norco/Vicodin. Dude never showed and Norco actually had to go a night without his precious Norco. He was a mess. It was pure comedy gold.
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You have no idea how hard I’m laughing right now.
January 14th, 2010 at 3:20 pm
I don’t understand how people on this board can bag on T.B. and R.G. FFS. 2 top premiere football players give their opinion and you think they don’t know what they are talking about.
F-in morons. Continue to sit on your fat asses in front of your monitor, because we all will remember your names one day ( insert sarcasm anywhere)
January 14th, 2010 at 3:20 pm
Norco Bob Says:
January 14th, 2010 at 3:18 pm
I actually dont take Norco anymore,..I should reregister my name to Soma Bob,..that stuff hits the spot,..havent had a Norco for about 9 months.”
Not a very good liar are you? Soma is not a pain killer or a narcotic, it is a muscle relaxer. You aren’t very bright are you? I guess you forget to cover your own tracks, typical addict behavior.
January 14th, 2010 at 3:20 pm
# Norco Bob Says:
January 14th, 2010 at 3:18 pm
I actually dont take Norco anymore,..I should reregister my name to Soma Bob,..that stuff hits the spot,..havent had a Norco for about 9 months.
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Was the whole craiglist thing your rock bottom moment?
January 14th, 2010 at 3:21 pm
I have bought probably about 2000 pills off craigslist in my time there,..Pot too,…real easy….and no never got stood up and never get to point where I have none,..sorry to ruin your story,..was a good one though.
January 14th, 2010 at 3:22 pm
MR
Glad I could contribute to your laughter. Norco’s pathetic reality is probably a source of humor for many others away from this blog as well.
January 14th, 2010 at 3:22 pm
Nortcos on CL go for 3 -4 bucks,..regular vicodins are always 2 bucks,..put wanted out on rants and raves,..you will get about 100 emails that day.
January 14th, 2010 at 3:22 pm
MR
Now just kick back and watch him scramble
January 14th, 2010 at 3:23 pm
Well doggshyt, if I make folks in here laugh thats fine by me,..laughter is good,..isnt it?
January 14th, 2010 at 3:23 pm
Norco Bob Says:
January 14th, 2010 at 3:23 pm
Well doggshyt, if I make folks in here laugh thats fine by me,..laughter is good,..isnt it?”
Especially at your expense
January 14th, 2010 at 3:24 pm
Stop being such a mean blogger doggshyt, we are all in here just for laughs anyway,..ease up.
January 14th, 2010 at 3:24 pm
“TIMMA!” The South Park guys must’ve heard Davis calling Tim Brown this.
Cable stays, Russell stays if he shows ANY form of dedication and improvement by minis.
Just the way of it.
Fix the O line.
January 14th, 2010 at 3:24 pm
Good point, Norco. Your life is fun to laugh at.
January 14th, 2010 at 3:24 pm
If its at my expense doggshyt I am fine with that,..I wont get my feelings hurt.
January 14th, 2010 at 3:25 pm
I wish you guys wouldnt gang up on me like this.
January 14th, 2010 at 3:25 pm
Norco Bob Says:
January 14th, 2010 at 3:24 pm
Stop being such a mean blogger doggshyt, we are all in here just for laughs anyway,..ease up.”
The truth isn’t always nice is it? Not my fault that people find it funyy that you are a pathetic drug addict that trolls craigslist for pain killers cuz his doctor refuses to feed his obvious addiction.
January 14th, 2010 at 3:26 pm
Isnt it weird how one blogger can get all other bloggers looking in his direction?…lol…but gotta run now, thanks for the laughs,,…cya next time!!
January 14th, 2010 at 3:26 pm
MR, you big idiot, are you kidding me? How many more times are you going to ask Norco Slob the same freakin’ question?
Good Lord, dude, if being the blog doormat / punching bag / colostomy bag isn’t enough, now you’re going to vie for the title of redundant illiterate moron as well?
This will definitely hurt your chance of being invited to my Super Cool Summer 2010 Baja Surf Experience.
You’ll still be hounding Norco Slob in July while me and a few select bloggers are bagging smoking hot senoritas, chugging tasty brews and busting up wack drug cartels.
Holla!
January 14th, 2010 at 3:27 pm
Norco Bob Says:
January 14th, 2010 at 3:26 pm
Isnt it weird how one blogger can get all other bloggers looking in his direction?…lol…but gotta run now, thanks for the laughs,,…cya next time!! ”
And the self analysis begins
January 14th, 2010 at 3:28 pm
Bree,
You’re a sad lonely boy aren’t cha. Any attention at all, even if it’s negative makes your day, huh? Pathetic.
January 14th, 2010 at 3:29 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
January 14th, 2010 at 3:17 pm
Notice how MB doesn’t talk politics anymore since I asked him to name one Republican who he thinks can beat Obama?
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All but the chosen and the truly blind realize how bad the Repubs fukt us. New World Order sell outs.
There are no more countries, only multi national corporations thanks in part to some evil men who brain washed the willing and weak into a war that allowed them to subvert our resources to the ones who deserve and need it the least.
80% of the worlds wealth is held by 20 % of its people.
The time is nigh…stand and deliver…
January 14th, 2010 at 3:30 pm
Must win game for the Cal Bears tonight
January 14th, 2010 at 3:30 pm
Nnamdi
are you familiar with the term “tri-lateralism”?
January 14th, 2010 at 3:33 pm
Kell
did you hear about Teddy? RIP. Many babies were made to his music…
January 14th, 2010 at 3:34 pm
Maybe Al is firing Cable on Friday. The Bob’s say it helps reduce the risk of a situation.
January 14th, 2010 at 3:37 pm
Yeah, I guess it was colon cancer. Yeah, he and Barry White are responsible for alot of crumb snatchers
January 14th, 2010 at 3:38 pm
KoolKell Says:
January 14th, 2010 at 3:37 pm
Yeah, I guess it was colon cancer. Yeah, he and Barry White are responsible for alot of crumb snatchers”
Don’t forget about Al Green
January 14th, 2010 at 3:39 pm
http://www.csnbayarea.com/pages/live
WEBCAM set up at ALameda
January 14th, 2010 at 3:40 pm
The Right Reverend.
January 14th, 2010 at 3:46 pm
Arenas is in a world of shyt.
Even a plea at this stage might involve some jail-time.
January 14th, 2010 at 3:48 pm
Did some one mention hot grits
January 14th, 2010 at 3:48 pm
Dakota,
Where did you hear Gruden was on a plane from Chicago to Oakland yesterday??
January 14th, 2010 at 3:50 pm
Ok guys just read this please, and if you do not laugh your a$$es off then your all freakin crazy. If you go deer hunting or hate people that do, this will crack you up.
Actual letter from someone who farms, He writes well and tried this:
I had this idea that I could rope a deer, put it in a stall, feed it up on corn for a couple of weeks, then kill it and eat it. The first step in this adventure was getting a deer. I figured that, since they congregate at my cattle feeder and do not seem to have much fear of me when we are there (a bold one will sometimes come right up and sniff at the bags of feed while I am in the back of the truck not 4 feet away), it should not be difficult to rope one, get up to it and toss a bag over its head (to calm it down) then hog tie it and transport it home.
I filled the cattle feeder then hid down at the end with my rope. The cattle, having seen the roping thing before, stayed well back. They were not having any of it. After about 20 minutes, my deer showed up — 3 of them. I picked out a likely looking one, stepped out from the end of the feeder, and threw my rope. The deer just stood there and stared at me. I wrapped the rope around my waist and twisted the end so I would have a good hold.
The deer still just stood and stared at me, but you could tell it was mildly concerned about the whole rope situation. I took a step towards it, it took a step away. I put a little tension on the rope .., and then received an education. The first thing that I learned is that, while a deer may just stand there looking at you funny while you rope it, they are spurred to action when you start pulling on that rope.
That deer EXPLODED. The second thing I learned is that pound for pound, a deer is a LOT stronger than a cow or a colt. A cow or a colt in that weight range I could fight down with a rope and with some dignity. A deer– no chance.
That thing ran and bucked and twisted and pulled. There was no controlling it and certainly no getting close to it. As it jerked me off my feet and started dragging me across the ground, it occurred to me that having a deer on a rope was not nearly as good an idea as I had originally imagined. The only upside is that they do not have as much stamina as many other animals.
A brief 10 minutes later, it was tired and not nearly as quick to jerk me off my feet and drag me when I managed to get up. It took me a few minutes to realize this, since I was mostly blinded by the blood flowing out of the big gash in my head. At that point, I had lost my taste for corn-fed venison. I just wanted to get that devil creature off the end of that rope.
I figured if I just let it go with the rope hanging around its neck, it would likely die slow and painfully somewhere. At the time, there was no love at all between me and that deer. At that moment, I hated the thing, and I would venture a guess that the feeling was mutual.
Despite the gash in my head and the several large knots where I had cleverly arrested the deer’s momentum by bracing my head against various large rocks as it dragged me across the ground, I could still think clearly enough to recognize that there was a small chance that I shared some tiny amount of responsibility for the situation we were in. I didn’t want the deer to have to suffer a slow death, so I managed to get it lined back up in between my truck and the feeder – a little trap I had set before hand….kind of like a squeeze chute. I got it to back in there and I started moving up so I could get my rope back.
Did you know that deer bite?
They do! I never in a million years would have thought that a deer would bite somebody, so I was very surprised when …. I reached up there to grab that rope and the deer grabbed hold of my wrist. Now, when a deer bites you, it is not like being bit by a horse where they just bite you and then let go. A deer bites you and shakes its head–almost like a pit bull.. They bite HARD and it hurts.
The proper thing to do when a deer bites you is probably to freeze and draw back slowly.. I tried screaming and shaking instead. My method was ineffective.
It seems like the deer was biting and shaking for several minutes, but it was likely only several seconds. I, being smarter than a deer (though you may be questioning that claim by now), tricked it. While I kept it busy tearing the tendons out of my right arm, I reached up with my left hand and pulled that rope loose.
That was when I got my final lesson in deer behavior for the day.
Deer will strike at you with their front feet. They rear right up on their back feet and strike right about head and shoulder level, and their hooves are surprisingly sharp. I learned a long time ago that, when an animal — like a horse — strikes at you with their hooves and you can’t get away easily, the best thing to do is try to make a loud noise and make an aggressive move towards the animal. This will usually cause them to back down a bit so you can escape.
This was not a horse.. This was a deer, so obviously, such trickery would not work. In the course of a millisecond, I devised a different strategy. I screamed like a woman and tried to turn and run. The reason I had always been told NOT to try to turn and run from a horse that paws at you is that there is a good chance that it will hit you in the back of the head. Deer may not be so different from horses after all, besides being twice as strong and 3 times as evil, because the second I turned to run, it hit me right in the back of the head and knocked me down.
Now, when a deer paws at you and knocks you down, it does not immediately leave. I suspect it does not recognize that the danger has passed. What they do instead is paw your back and jump up and down on you while you are laying there crying like a little girl and covering your head.
I finally managed to crawl under the truck and the deer went away. So now I know why when people go deer hunting they bring a rifle with a scope to sort of even the odds..
All these events are true so help me God… An Educated, Bruised and Bleeding Rancher…………………….
January 14th, 2010 at 3:50 pm
Well, this news segment has provided for and confirmed the following information: First, Tim Brown is still looking for a job and second, they don’t need an OC to call the plays. All they need to do is give AD a wireless headset & let him call the plays from his luxury box or from home while watching the game. Telecommuting is not a new concept. A number of people work from home or a remote location. As crazy as that sounds, who is going to say that it would be any worse than Cable or the B&B guy calling the plays from the sideline. Actually it might be a hell of a lot better than what we’ve seen over the last seven years. Minimally, we’d know who to really blame for the play calling of each game. It’s certainly worth a shot and Davis saves another salary. Such-a-deal!
January 14th, 2010 at 3:51 pm
Yeah…the old man Al needs to make a MAJOR move that will show the Raider Nation he is SERIOUS about WINNING again.
He needs to hire a REAL GM and a REAL Head Coach like Gruden, Harbaugh, or Garrett.
Otherwise all hope will be lost and the team maybe in last place in the division next year.
January 14th, 2010 at 3:57 pm
Since all five hundred pounds of Sapp are firmly on the Fire Tom Cable bandwagon, who would Sapp recommend as a new Raiders coach?
Who cares who or what the fish eyed fool says or thinks about anything.
He is like an overweight cartoon, maybe Baby Huey.
He thinks making big eyes makes you important.
Makes him look like a fool.
January 14th, 2010 at 4:00 pm
how many players only meeting did Tim Brown called for during the 97 season? That was the season that our entire team gave up on during Bugel’s only year. I believe it was at least 3 that was made public. How did that season go for Timmy Brown?
Timmy was a good player for us but never a leader. Gannon was a leader. Timmy is not. Timmy and Rice were never leaders.
January 14th, 2010 at 4:02 pm
RIP Teddy. “Love TKO” is a nice jam. A lot of rappers sampled it. MC Eight, and the guy who sang “back in the days, when I was young I’m not a kid anymore”, forget his name…
January 14th, 2010 at 4:03 pm
Keep Cable….no, better Fire Cable.
January 14th, 2010 at 4:04 pm
MR
Posted a live video of Love TKO on my FB page, good call.
January 14th, 2010 at 4:08 pm
Warren Sapp is an overweight windbag who did nothing while with the Raiders except eat cheeseburgers and collect a check. Dude needs to shut up. I’d rather listen to Shannon “Horse-Face” Sharpe.
January 14th, 2010 at 4:12 pm
R8er4life21,
Your friend is an idiot. He deserves what he got for being mentally absent from reality.
January 14th, 2010 at 4:12 pm
So in other words, Bjbrown, Sapp’s telling the truth.
January 14th, 2010 at 4:16 pm
Ditto RMR: RIP Teddy…
Article on Russell and Marinovich. Worlds apart, but the same failure…
http://www.raidernationstation.com/exclusives
January 14th, 2010 at 4:19 pm
Texasguy, not my friend just an email sent to me.
The question is did you laugh?
January 14th, 2010 at 4:29 pm
I’d rather listen to Shannon “Horse-Face” Sharp
Is he better than Tom “Gorrilla Face” Jackson???
January 14th, 2010 at 4:32 pm
Thec, whenever these guys attack the character of someone who goes in on Al and how the organization is run, without addressing the actual points of criticism, it means the critic is telling the truth. If Sapp was wrong about anything he said, they would address it if they had an argument. They don’t. What Sapp just said about Cable is flat out true, which is why they’re going after Sapp’s character.
January 14th, 2010 at 4:34 pm
All of these Raider guys defend the team and attack its critics as if the Raiders are good. The Raiders are so bad now that anyone who criticizes them has the inside track. You’ve got to take down a king with one shot, and making fun of Sapp’s weight doesn’t cut it. They know Sapp’s not lying.
January 14th, 2010 at 4:36 pm
GM Mckenzie
HC Moss
OCO Martz
DCO Marshall/???
Semtex the org….
January 14th, 2010 at 4:37 pm
Al is gonna fire Cable just to put Sapp out of a job, once Cable is gone all of Sapp’s stupid anectdotes about the Cable Man will be worthless…one more reason to fire the Cable Guy
January 14th, 2010 at 4:38 pm
MR, te reason why i commented on bjbrown1968 comment, wad the fact that he called sharpe a horse face…That shyt is funny coz dude does look like Mr. ED….
and Tom Jackson does have a gorrilla face….
I could give a fugg about sapp….But the truth is the truth we need to dynamite the org, rebuild from the top down…..
January 14th, 2010 at 4:38 pm
I kind of laughed a little, but mostly cringing.
January 14th, 2010 at 4:38 pm
If Al Davis can call a final drive for a football game and that equates to knowing football, then I ought to be the General Manager. I can call a final drive for any game. I bet most of us can too. haha
January 14th, 2010 at 4:39 pm
they’re drawing straws in Alameda to see who goes.
January 14th, 2010 at 4:43 pm
If JaMarcASS showed up in camp last summer
with a work ethic and an off season conditioning program under his belt, instead of a gut full of McDonalds and Chik-Fil-A…
maybe Cable’s record wouldn’t have beens so horrible…
January 14th, 2010 at 4:43 pm
Who drafted BRL????
January 14th, 2010 at 4:45 pm
Sapp may or may not be telling the truth, it’s a little difficult to tell with him, due to all the blabber that comes out of his blubber. When was the last time Sapp had a good season? Early in his career I’m guessing, right? After that he was pretty mediocre. Just got a lot of attention from flapping his enormous gums.
January 14th, 2010 at 4:45 pm
Funny story R8dr,
I also like this one:
Ted Nugent,
rock star and avid bow hunter from Michigan, was
being interviewed by a French journalist, an
animal rights activist
The discussion came around to deer hunting.
The
journalist asked, ‘What do you think is the last
thought in the head of a deer before you shoot
him? Is it, ‘Are you my friend?’ or is it ‘Are
you the one who killed my brother?
Nugent
replied, ‘Deer aren’t capable of that kind of
thinking. All they care about is, what am I
going to eat next, who am I going to screw next,
and can I run fast enough to get away. They are
very much like the French.’
The
interview ended.
January 14th, 2010 at 4:45 pm
Tom “Gorrilla Face” Jackson. LOL!!!!
January 14th, 2010 at 4:45 pm
God Bless Ya Timmy! You are a RAIDER LEGEND and your word is gold man. Please talk some sense into Al and get this thing turned around. I believe you care about the RAIDERS as much as the rest of us and this losing is killing you too…HELP TIMMA!!!!!!
GO RAIDERS!!!!
January 14th, 2010 at 4:45 pm
Tim said BRL wad garbage, and yet we drafted him anyway…. Who made that call????
January 14th, 2010 at 4:47 pm
BRL = Below Ryan Leaf….
January 14th, 2010 at 4:47 pm
JaMarcASS was Al’s call all the way!
Not surprising, old folks get DUPED by fraudulent scammers all day, everyday.
Sad but true!
January 14th, 2010 at 4:48 pm
Run BRL outta town with DHB morrison walker fargas watkins green uncapped season, and rookie salary
cap in place for 2010….get bad debt off the books…
January 14th, 2010 at 4:49 pm
L Murphy is BADASS who put him on the bench????
January 14th, 2010 at 4:50 pm
Kellys contract needs a haircut….
January 14th, 2010 at 4:50 pm
r8dr4lfe21 – That deer story was HILARIOUS! Thanks for sharing it in the blog.
January 14th, 2010 at 4:54 pm
Thec07 Says:
January 14th, 2010 at 4:38 pm
and Tom Jackson does have a gorrilla face….
……………
OK, Thec, white Raider fans accept you, now. You can give it a rest.
January 14th, 2010 at 4:55 pm
I heard the interview this morning. TB was cautious not to disturb the force but at the same time admirably disected the problems within… HIRE A F#$KING GM!
January 14th, 2010 at 4:58 pm
# Thec07 Says:
January 14th, 2010 at 4:47 pm
BRL = Below Ryan Leaf….
…………..
It’s not true. Leaf played in a better system. The system Leaf played in a decade ago is better than the system Russell is saddled with today.
You say the organization needs to be blown up, but by saying that Russell is below Ryan Leaf, you’re also saying that the organization is fine, Russell is the problem. You’re confused, that’s for sure. Take a stand for something in your life.
January 14th, 2010 at 4:58 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
January 14th, 2010 at 4:54 pm
Thec07 Says:
January 14th, 2010 at 4:38 pm
and Tom Jackson does have a gorrilla face….
……………
OK, Thec, white Raider fans accept you, now. You can give it a rest.
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
ROFLMAO……
January 14th, 2010 at 4:58 pm
What’s with all the freakin’ drama?Does the guy still have a job or not?! Let’s get on with it!
January 14th, 2010 at 4:59 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
January 14th, 2010 at 4:58 pm
# Thec07 Says:
January 14th, 2010 at 4:47 pm
BRL = Below Ryan Leaf….
…………..
It’s not true. Leaf played in a better system. The system Leaf played in a decade ago is better than the system Russell is saddled with today.
You say the organization needs to be blown up, but by saying that Russell is below Ryan Leaf, you’re also saying that the organization is fine, Russell is the problem. You’re confused, that’s for sure. Take a stand for something in your life.
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
ROFLMAO………Nice…… Keep em coming….
January 14th, 2010 at 5:00 pm
What’s new? Did I miss anything?
January 14th, 2010 at 5:01 pm
Cable should have been fired in the preseason…
January 14th, 2010 at 5:02 pm
# r8eray Says:
January 14th, 2010 at 5:00 pm
What’s new? Did I miss anything?
*************
No. SS,DD (Same Schit,Different Day)
January 14th, 2010 at 5:02 pm
Why, Thec? He had BRL. Below Ryan Leaf. If Cable had a QB worse than Ryan Leaf, how can you blame Cable?
January 14th, 2010 at 5:03 pm
Thec07 Says:
January 14th, 2010 at 4:36 pm
GM Mckenzie
HC Moss
OCO Martz
DCO Marshall/???
Semtex the org….
Mr, my changes are listed above…..
Now lets see you stand for something, what should we do????Who should we hire????
January 14th, 2010 at 5:04 pm
FIRE CABLE…..
Ship BRL to canada….
CUT DHB….
January 14th, 2010 at 5:06 pm
What NFL coach admitted after the 2009 season was over that he should have let someone else call the plays????
What NFL QB came to work 75lbs overweight and did not learn the playbook????
How many people on this blog, earth or otherwise beleive BRL is a real NFL QB??????
MR. Davis does need to retire…..
January 14th, 2010 at 5:06 pm
Thec, I take a stand every single time I comment. I’m not the one confused as to what our team’s problem is. You know what I think. If you genuinely believe that Russell is worse than Ryan Leaf, then it must mean that you also believe Cable deserves another chance, with a better QB. Yet you keep saying Cable is the problem, then you say the organization is the problem. If Russell is worse than Leaf, how do we know? Cable could be a good coach, just needs a good QB. So, make up your mind. Is it Cable, or Russell? I think it’s Cable, for not standing up to Al. As far as the Raiders as a whole go, I’ve said before, this team will not break the 5 win mark again till Al’s dead.
January 14th, 2010 at 5:08 pm
Raiders overachieved this year. Cincy and Pittsburgh just didn’t prepare for Gradkowski. This was a 3-13 team.
January 14th, 2010 at 5:11 pm
MR, I have been consitent…… I will list it again and to make it simple for you i will list it in order so try to follow sporty…..
MR. Davis as a GM is wrong for the org needs to retire.
Cable as a HC, is a bad pick by Mr. Davis is wrong for the org…
BRL, who was pick by Mr. Davis is wrong for the org…
Made it easy for you since you have the inate ability to go on these wild but amusing assumptions…
Now is that easy for you to follow sport…..
January 14th, 2010 at 5:13 pm
So Mr since you are in rare form tonite could you please humor me and fill in te blanks
GM_________________
HC_________________
OCO________________
DCO________________
Thanks
January 14th, 2010 at 5:17 pm
Thec, and what happens if I don’t answer? I can mock you for hating black people (calling Tom Jackson and gorilla? Only hitler could have said it better…) and not taking a stand on the Raiders (saying Cable has to go while in the same breath saying Russell is worse than Leaf), and still not answer your stupid questions. I told you I take a stand with every single comment. So here I am, taking a stand. I refuse to answer your dumb questions. And, you already know my answers to them, anyway. Don’t ask me again. I don’t answer to you. I don’t have that kind of respect for you.
January 14th, 2010 at 5:20 pm
Thanks MR….Just as I suspected……lol
January 14th, 2010 at 5:22 pm
ROFLMFAO…….most fun i had on this blog in a while..
January 14th, 2010 at 5:23 pm
will Cable watch make it to day 12?…
January 14th, 2010 at 5:24 pm
Hope not, need to run him outta town this moment…
January 14th, 2010 at 5:29 pm
Cable is not getting fired….meeting today and tomorrow….not likely…plus this team moves way to slow for any moves to be of any use.
They might as well go ahead and trade Michael Bush…THE ONLY GOOD RUNNING BACK ON THE TEAM..and allow Cable to refine his 2yard dive right, and two incomplete passes attempt offense….
While we are at it…might as well trade Murphy too. NO way he should be used as a slot receiver.
Commitment to Excellence
January 14th, 2010 at 5:32 pm
Even if Cable is fired you know al will hire OC, DC and all position coaches before hiring a head coach
January 14th, 2010 at 5:36 pm
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January 14th, 2010 at 5:38 pm
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January 14th, 2010 at 5:41 pm
Norco Bob Says:
January 14th, 2010 at 3:01 pm
Sapp today said fassel should be next coach, for those of you who listen to sapp,..I dont.
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lmmfaoooooooooooooooo
January 14th, 2010 at 5:42 pm
Go Niners!
January 14th, 2010 at 5:45 pm
LOL. This again?
January 14th, 2010 at 5:45 pm
I live in Kansas City and the talk shows are all a buzz about Wies and Crennel. Callers are boldly calling for at least 8-8 season next year. Hate the chiefs, get me out of here.
January 14th, 2010 at 5:45 pm
Yeah, it looks like someone is trying to play that game again.
January 14th, 2010 at 5:45 pm
# Richochet Says:
January 14th, 2010 at 2:52 pm
# Seymour Bush Says:
January 14th, 2010 at 2:45 pm
Mistabr0wn Says:
January 14th, 2010 at 2:35 pm
I see OakGlen is back, had to change his name to avoid embarrassment.
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with all due respects MistaBrOwn I have seen about half a dozen people call you names in here, and that’s been in just the last two days. And you are calling other people embarrasments? You might want to look in the mirror pal, that’s where the real joke is.
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THANKS FOR PROVING MY POINT..lol..you idiot.
What you mean to say is “Under my other handle, Richochet slapped me around like a ping pong ball..so immediately upon signing in under this new silly name, I rush to act like a big boy and call him out. Mr. B also slapped me around like I was a defenseless redheaded ugly kid, so now I feel braver calling him out as well”
the only thing left out is you stating “IT’S OK, WHEN I FEEL LIKE A COMPLETE FLUSTERED LOSER..LIKE BEFORE..I’LL JUST CREATE ANOTHER HANDLE, AND START OVER”
Yeah, we know, lol…big time.
Richochet Says:
January 14th, 2010 at 3:08 pm
# Seymour Bush Says:
January 14th, 2010 at 2:58 pm
richochet do you really think I am that Oakglen guy? Weren’t you accusing someone else of being him just two days ago? Whoever that Oakglen guy is, he owns you. You’re freaked out by him.
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WTF??
Are you retarded?
I never said you were Oakglen, dumbass.
I said Oakglenn is Captain Black.
Damn..you are an idiot kid, aren’t you?
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So lst you accuse me of posting other another “handle”, presumably that oakglen guy, then you say oakglen is Captain Black. At least we know where the richochet name comes from because you ping pong around like a pinball getting it’s ass kicked. Richochet, you should go to church. Only God or Jesus could help someone like you. Where did you guys find this dereclict?
January 14th, 2010 at 5:46 pm
We don’t need Fossil, we need Gruden
January 14th, 2010 at 5:46 pm
How’d you get my name spelled the same? Guess registration’s off.
January 14th, 2010 at 5:48 pm
I have to agree with The Real Maddenraider on this one. The only reason Cable is not walking the plank is Kiffie is all over the news. Kiffin is the only person on earth who falls upwards.
January 14th, 2010 at 5:48 pm
Then again, some of these dorks are so dedicated to defending Al Davis by any means that they’ve probably figured out some hack that allows them to use already registered names. Some accomplishment. Remember when the Raiders used to focus on winning football teams? Now it’s hacking the screen names of people online who bash Al. Team of the decades.
January 14th, 2010 at 5:49 pm
Have a most enjoyable evening NATION!
January 14th, 2010 at 5:50 pm
I think there’s collusion between blog management and Raider management.
January 14th, 2010 at 5:50 pm
Agree with 185
January 14th, 2010 at 5:53 pm
Midwest Raider Says:
January 14th, 2010 at 5:50 pm
Agree with 185
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So many other agendas than winning that preoccupies Al Davis.
January 14th, 2010 at 5:55 pm
Not an Al lover, just a MR hater. You are a piece of crap.
January 14th, 2010 at 5:55 pm
# Thec07 Says:
January 14th, 2010 at 5:06 pm
What NFL coach admitted after the 2009 season was over that he should have let someone else call the plays????
RICHOCHET: I suspect it’s the same NFL coach who denied he sucked at it in week 6, when it was obvious to everyone on this blog, earth, and ‘otherwise’ that he did, in fact, create a partial vacuum with his lips.
Probably the same coach who realizes if he wants to keep his job, play the “oh, well, now that I’ve given that hat up, these other ones fit so much better” card.
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What NFL QB came to work 75lbs overweight and did not learn the playbook????
RICHOCHET: I believe that would be the same one who played for a HC who didn’t demand he put in the extra time needed to run those extra folds off his ass, which happens to be the same HC who also didn’t demand he come in on his day off to learn said playbook.
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How many people on this blog, earth or otherwise beleive BRL is a real NFL QB??????
RICHOCHET: “otherwise”?? “Otherwise” watches NFL football????
Cool
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MR. Davis does need to retire…..
RICHOCHET: Which hopefully gives him time to find a hairdresser, AND a dentist..because…dammmmmmmmnnnnnn
January 14th, 2010 at 5:57 pm
Not an Al lover, just a MR hater. You are a piece of crap.
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You’re a lying piece of shyt, is what you are.
January 14th, 2010 at 5:57 pm
Raider Nation, the post above, #178, is how I really feel. As you can read by all of my other posts I am not a true Raider fan. The only reason I come on here is because no real people will talk to me.
January 14th, 2010 at 5:59 pm
# The Real MaddenRaider Says:
January 14th, 2010 at 5:55 pm
Not an Al lover, just a MR hater. You are a piece of crap.
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Yeh, a piece of crap whose screen name you have to copy to get attention.
January 14th, 2010 at 5:59 pm
# The Real MaddenRaider Says:
January 14th, 2010 at 5:46 pm
How’d you get my name spelled the same? Guess registration’s off.
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That’s AIG.
The asswipe did the exact same thing with my name couple of months ago.
Was pretty easy to do the same thing with his name, which stopped him.
January 14th, 2010 at 6:00 pm
Registration’s off, guys. Either that or there’s a hack that lets you register under names already in use. Let the games begin.
January 14th, 2010 at 6:00 pm
jmcdonald@bayareanewsgroup.com
Should be notified to check IP addresses, MR
January 14th, 2010 at 6:01 pm
Al is Fraud.
You’ve been owned so many times, I guess now you’re resorting to this. Anyone with the name Al is God already has enough issues. What’s hilarious is that you chopped it down to an abbreviation, because you know how ridiculous it is to call yourself “Al Is God”. Now, , it’s AIG. How about YSP. You’re still a punk. Have fun hiding under my name, you little girl.
January 14th, 2010 at 6:02 pm
I don’t know why you guys don’t talk football and leave the rest of the crap out. The Real Maddenraider is talking about race, dudes spend all day flaming each other, and richochet is so far out nothing can bring ever him back. No wonder everyone outside the Raider Nation thinks you guys are idiotic dolts.
January 14th, 2010 at 6:02 pm
# The Real MaddenRaider Says:
January 14th, 2010 at 5:57 pm
Raider Nation, the post above, #178, is how I really feel. As you can read by all of my other posts I am not a true Raider fan. The only reason I come on here is because no real people will talk to me.
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Posted by AIG, “Alisgod” etc.
Hey, he admits guys walking down the street scare him.
He admits, however, that he feels brave around women, and beats them.
He then admits his ex cheated on his sorry unemployed, stay at home couch potato ass, and that’s why he beat her.
He’s a flea…and that’s what spineless cowardly fleas do.
January 14th, 2010 at 6:03 pm
See what I mean?
January 14th, 2010 at 6:04 pm
Thanks Kell but I don’t go that route. If this blog has a glitch where people can register under already used screen names, then it’s just one aspect of the blog. He can keep doing it. Everyone knows what’s going on. And in case they don’t, the REAL Real MaddenRaider will be here to remind them. He’s really just amusing himself, sort of like his belief that Al Davis is god. What was it I heard about this guy hitting women, too? What is it with these Raider guys? Do they even fight men?
January 14th, 2010 at 6:04 pm
It’s that ghost, oakglen. He is the one doing it all. He is responsible. Man, dudes a legend. Whoever oakglen is, he’s cool.
January 14th, 2010 at 6:05 pm
I’m with Seymour
January 14th, 2010 at 6:05 pm
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January 14th, 2010 at 6:05 pm
# The Real MaddenRaider Says:
January 14th, 2010 at 6:00 pm
Registration’s off, guys. Either that or there’s a hack that lets you register under names already in use. Let the games begin.
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No..not a hack.
Easy to do..but..not worth relaying that, and have everyone start doing it.
Just report him, and get his sorryass banned.
BTW..any “idea” who Seymour is? lol….
I think it’s easy to tell.
January 14th, 2010 at 6:06 pm
Well, Randy Hanson, I guess. But does he really count? Al is God, why do guys affiliated with the Raiders only hit women and small, puny guys? Do you guys ever fight men your own size?
January 14th, 2010 at 6:06 pm
Damn. So many people in here defending their own points of view as the sole truth, whole truth and nothing but the truth, so help them Themselves.
Sounds like friggin’ Rush Limbaugh and his asinine certainties in here.
[Cue KoolKell's list of the failings of a perpetually 80 year old GM]
[Cue the next MR "I hate Al" rant]
[Cue the next "everyone is an a$$" except for the writer/perpetrator] .
Fire Cable. Bring in Mariucci. Next.
January 14th, 2010 at 6:06 pm
How about focusing on winning football games. Everything this team does is ridiculous. Chastising a bar owner for posting pictures of Gruden’s visit…publicly denouncing former players offering help…denying game day media access to the building…its all a bunch of BS! Anyone defending Davis and his antics don’t care about winning and follow the team for other reasons.
Meanwhile,
Cleveland: Hired Holmgrem and Philly’s GM to run team AND declared Mangini is staying
Washington: Hired Mike Shanahan and both coordinators
Cincinnati: Re-signed D-Coordinator
Kansas City: New O.C and D.C (great names too)
Seattle: Fires Mora Hires Carroll..looking for new G.M
Tampa: Announces coaching staff staying
Chicago: Announces Lovie Smith is staying AND interviewing coordinators
Miami & Giants: Fired D.C and interviewing candidates
Houston: Replaced O.C
Carolina & Jacksonville: Announce their coaches are staying
Meanwhile, the Raiders are just casually going through their dysfunctional ways…haphazardly calling so-called review meetings..coaches abrutly retiring in the parking lot….give me a freekn break
Commitment to Excellence
January 14th, 2010 at 6:06 pm
S Bush
The Al Davis people like it that way. They bait and sometimes the baits are accepted.
They do not want the conversation about Al Davis.
January 14th, 2010 at 6:08 pm
KK, Someone should be notified that MR and you should be booted from the blog. You guys contribute nothing. You are constantly talking bad about the Raiders and insulting people. This is a Raiders blog for Raider fans, not haters. If you want to talk bad about the Raiders go join the broncos board.
January 14th, 2010 at 6:09 pm
Is it possible to be anti al and pro raider?
January 14th, 2010 at 6:09 pm
Commitment to Excellence????
Not anymore, its commitment to al
January 14th, 2010 at 6:10 pm
So true, SnB.
Winning is waaaay down the list of priorities with Al Davis.
January 14th, 2010 at 6:10 pm
# The Real MaddenRaider Says:
January 14th, 2010 at 6:04 pm
Thanks Kell but I don’t go that route. If this blog has a glitch where people can register under already used screen names, then it’s just one aspect of the blog. He can keep doing it. Everyone knows what’s going on. And in case they don’t, the REAL Real MaddenRaider will be here to remind them. He’s really just amusing himself, sort of like his belief that Al Davis is god. What was it I heard about this guy hitting women, too? What is it with these Raider guys? Do they even fight men?
, let me remind. (yeah, I enjoy laughing at AIG, the cross posting beyotch)
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You don’t recall?
Well then,
AIG admitted “when going down the street, and I see the guys that hang out, I cross the street and tell my wife/girlfriends (?) to do the same”
When confronted with that spineless act, he replied “hey, these guys are scary. Some have guns. Not worth it to mess with guys on the street.” I.E. COWARD.
THEN..after Cables outing of beating his wife?
AIG posted “Hey, I beat my wife too..so what’s the big deal? She deserved it.”
After being called out as a coward, he followed with “She was cheating on me, so I beat her up”..where he admitted he stays home, while his wife works, and that she was tired of his fatass sitting on the couch all day.”
AIG is the worst of the worst..that’s why in prison, guys like him are viewed as being below rats.
January 14th, 2010 at 6:12 pm
Oh, no matter how much bait I take, and it is fun, I always make sure to get the conversation back to Al Davis.
Al is God, this is for you.
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http://www.usatoday.com/sports/football/nfl/raiders/2008-10-04-davis-legacy_N.htm
Two decades ago, Al Davis and Bill Parcells were chatting during an NFL owners meeting when Davis’ new coach strolled by.
“I want you to meet Mike Shanahan,” Davis told Parcells. “He’s going to be a great head coach.”
Shanahan, 35 at the time, has indeed distinguished himself, but not with Davis’ Raiders. Twenty games into his tenure, he was fired, the same point that Davis fired Lane Kiffin this week.
So what happened to Kiffin isn’t new. But it’s sad.
Because given recent history, it’s easy to overlook the many contributions Al Davis has made to the NFL.
They include moves that led to the AFL-NFL merger, making the league into the multibillion dollar corporation it is today. They include significant contributions toward solving labor disputes, in part because of his closeness to the late Gene Upshaw, an ex-Raider who ran the union for 25 years.
They also include the hiring of the first black coach of the modern era — Shanahan’s successor, Art Shell — and the first female CEO, Amy Trask, who unfortunately seems to have been left out of the decision-making process in the latest fiasco. She’s one of the few levelheaded people currently in Oakland’s front office.
And the legacy also includes winning: three Super Bowls and a record from the late 1960s to the early 1980s that was as good as any team in pro sports.
That’s why it’s simplistic to characterize the 79-year-old Davis as an out-of-touch old man, the way he’s been described for most of this decade as his once-proud organization has descended to the bottom of the NFL.
Davis always has been able to spot young coaching talent, including Parcells, whom he coached in a college all-star game in 1963 and later mentored.
But aside from John Madden, promoted from the assistant ranks in 1969 at age 32, Davis’ overbearing manner and his penchant for coaching from the owner’s box drove them away — from Shanahan to Jon Gruden to Kiffin, the only one whose bona fides are not yet established.
Davis also alienated them. Just as he’s refusing to pay the remainder of Kiffin’s contract, he and Shanahan have been locked in a dispute for two decades over $300,000 that the Denver coach claims he’s owed.
The normally humor-deprived Shanahan can now joke about it in a manner that demonstrates what many people around the NFL think of the chaos in Oakland.
“I’ll be honest with you, I was a little disappointed,” he said the day after Kiffin was fired. “When you take a look at it, I was there 582 days. Lane Kiffin was there 616 days. So what it really means is that Al Davis liked Lane more than he liked me. I really don’t think it’s fair. I won three more games and he got 34 more days of work. It just doesn’t seem right.”
Other than those youngsters, Davis’ head coaching hires have either been ex-Raiders — Shell and Tom Flores, who was the NFL’s first Latino coach — or coaches in little or no demand elsewhere. Tom Cable, the offensive line coach who became the interim head coach when Kiffin was fired, fits into the latter category.
This approach allows Davis to continue to “coach” because guys who are happy just to have one of 32 NFL jobs will take what goes with it. The youngsters with aspirations for long coaching careers (Shanahan, Gruden and Kiffin) bristle at it.
But it’s been 43 years since Davis was a coach; he stepped down in 1965 to become part owner after turning around what was one of the worst teams in the old AFL.
The problem is Davis still wants to do it. During Tuesday’s news conference, that was clear as he critiqued moves that Kiffin made in losses to Buffalo and San Diego. And he defended his pick of JaMarcus Russell with the first pick of the 2007 draft, a move he said Kiffin was against.
Russell could end up as a franchise QB — he certainly has the physical tools. But it’s also clear why Davis had fewer questions about him than Kiffin and other football people: Russell is a classic Al Davis quarterback, a recreation of Daryle Lamonica from the AFL days or Jim Plunkett from the early 1980s who can throw 40 or 50 or even 60 yards downfield. Think of another Davis mistake: Jay Schroeder, a mediocre QB with a huge arm who Davis thought could carry the team in the late ’80s.
Still, Davis can adjust when he has to.
During the 1970s, the quarterback was Ken Stabler, who probably couldn’t throw more than 30 yards but led a franchise that was 112-39-7 during the Madden years. The Raiders succeeded again in the early part of this decade with Rich Gannon, another quarterback with less than a power arm who took the team to an AFC title game after the 2000 season and a Super Bowl two years later.
That was in Gruden’s version of the shorter-passing West Coast offense. But Davis was never really happy with that and his interference finally alienated Gruden, who left after the 2001 season for Tampa, taking with him Bruce Allen, the only GM the team has had.
So the Raiders are 20-64 since the start of the 2003 season, a laughingstock in a class with the Detroit Lions, who fired team president Matt Millen a week ago.
Madden thinks the problems reflect the way the game has changed.
“When I was there we just had five or six coaches and Ron Wolf was in the personnel department and Al Davis,” he told Sirius Satellite radio this week. “So there were really less than 10 of us and there were no barriers. I mean, everyone was right there together and we kind of did everything so we didn’t have any of these problems.
“And then as the game grew and the organization grew and you have more and more people and more and more assistants, I think instead of being closer and being part of each other, it looks to me like they just grew apart.”
One name stands out: Wolf, one of the best personnel men of the last 40 years.
He not only helped put together Raiders teams that won Super Bowls after the 1976, 1980 and 1983 seasons, but also obtained Brett Favre for Green Bay and built a Packers team that won the title in 1996 and the NFC championship the following season.
There is no Ron Wolf on the current Raiders nor anyone close to him. The personnel decisions seem to be made either by Davis or by lackeys whose goal is simply approval from the boss.
That’s why it sounded so ludicrous when Davis whined about dealing Randy Moss to New England for a fourth-round pick. “A fourth round pick!” he repeated, suggesting it was Kiffin’s decision to make the deal on a team where everything — important and otherwise — goes through the top.
Davis acknowledged in a briefing with local reporters after the news conference that no one but New England really wanted Moss, who played in Oakland by the motto that got him traded by the Vikings: “I play when I feel like it.” Only the Patriots, with Bill Belichick coaching and Tom Brady as the QB, could have gotten him to play to his form of last year, when he caught a record 23 TD passes.
Talk to ex-Raiders of recent vintage and you hear a common theme: “I’m just glad to be out of here.”
“I’ve seen the circus of the NFL,” said the Colts’ Dominic Rhodes, who spent one year in Oakland after helping Indy win the Super Bowl two years ago and returned this year to the Colts after being released by the Raiders.
“I watched it and I actually sent Lane a text message and told him ‘Thank you for letting me get out of there like you said you would.’ I’m just happy they let me get out because I would not want to be a part of that right now.”
In a lot of ways, that’s sad. Because Al Davis is one of the most important figures in NFL history. This isn’t the legacy he wants to leave.
January 14th, 2010 at 6:13 pm
AL and the raiders used to be the same thing. One wasn’t one without the other. Now it seems like AL has been going in a direction that I wish the team wasn’t.
January 14th, 2010 at 6:13 pm
KK, Someone should be notified that MR and you should be booted from the blog. You guys contribute nothing. You are constantly talking bad about the Raiders and insulting people. This is a Raiders blog for Raider fans, not haters. If you want to talk bad about the Raiders go join the broncos board.
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You freakin weak-minded idiot. That’s not for you to say, we’re free to express our opinions, as Raider Fans. You fukin loser.
January 14th, 2010 at 6:14 pm
A winning season would cure all
January 14th, 2010 at 6:14 pm
# KoolKell Says:
January 14th, 2010 at 6:06 pm
S Bush
The Al Davis people like it that way. They bait and sometimes the baits are accepted.
They do not want the conversation about Al Davis.
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Al Davis is ultimately responsible for the past and current states of the Oakland/LA/Oakland Raiders. He is the owner of the franchise. He can do with it what he wants. If he wants to run it into the ground, well, he can. It’s his. After the above statement, is there anything else that needs to be said about Al Davis on this blog? If there is, what is it?
January 14th, 2010 at 6:15 pm
Richochet, thanks for breaking that down. AIG is one serious scumbag. And, call him Al is God. He changed it to AIG because even he’s embarrassed about his own name.
January 14th, 2010 at 6:17 pm
Seymour Bush, in light of your little punk bytch friend Al is God, I’m going to talk about nothing but Al Davis for the next few days, posting all of the old articles I can. I promise to keep Al Davis front and center on this blog. People can talk draft all they want to, I will be peppering this mother f’r with op eds about Al Davis from the past two decades. If you don’t like it, your dork friend Al is God can come up with a new hack to delete my account or something. Or, he can go hit another woman. But some women lift weights now and fight back, so the punk had better be careful.
January 14th, 2010 at 6:19 pm
S Bush
Yes, Davis can run the franchise into the ground if he wants to.
And I can talk about him like a dog if I want to. And the fans can boycott him if they want to.
January 14th, 2010 at 6:21 pm
Seymour Bush, do you hit women too? Like your punk friend Al is God? And Tom Cable?
January 14th, 2010 at 6:21 pm
S Bush
And you can be a loser if you want to.
January 14th, 2010 at 6:22 pm
Yes, KoolKell but the issue then quickly changes from one of freedom to speak about Al Davis, to the fact that you are just being redundant and annoying with no other real purpose other than being annoying and redundant. Unless, once again, there is something I am missing.
January 14th, 2010 at 6:23 pm
Ok, its not for me to decide, and maybe you are not so bad, (I have been reading these boards for a year now), but maybe your fellow posters disagree. Do you think they have a right to say? MR is always rubbing people the wrong way and this is not a place for insulting people or talking bad about the Raiders with every post. I dont care about Al, but I dont like to read your negative posts about the Raiders or your opinion of BO. I am sure by the posts I have seen no one else does either.
January 14th, 2010 at 6:25 pm
# KoolKell Says:
January 14th, 2010 at 6:21 pm
S Bush
And you can be a loser if you want to.
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I don’t quite understand this statement, unless you are just being insulting. At which point you can go into the garbage pile with richochet, the real maddenraider, and mistabrOwn. Sad that some come here to insult and denigrate others, with no other real purpose in life. Vince Lombardi would punch losers like that right in their grills.
January 14th, 2010 at 6:26 pm
See post 223. This is what I am talking about. MR is a fukin loser. Really you douche? You are going to pepper the board with long articles so readers have to scroll forever to find real posts and I am the bad guy? You are doing it to spite someone. How much of a loser are you? This is why you should be banned. You contribute nothing.
January 14th, 2010 at 6:26 pm
S Bush
I’m reaching out to like minded people, changing the conversation nationally, inspiring boycott movements. like http://www.messagetoal.com
I don’t give a damn about annoying Davis worshipers.
The only people who think Al Davis is bigger than the Raiders are neophyte fans who weren’t there, and were only exposed to Al’s hype
January 14th, 2010 at 6:28 pm
Vince Lombardi would punch losers like that right in their grills.
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No doubt. Losers accept losing. Like you.
January 14th, 2010 at 6:30 pm
KK, if reaching out is what you want to do then do it. You are not reaching out by polluting the board with insults to Al davis fans or posting long articles. Think about it.
January 14th, 2010 at 6:31 pm
We may disagree but we are all part of the Raider Nation and should show more respect for eachothers opinions and absent of insults. Unite nation.
January 14th, 2010 at 6:32 pm
I completely agree Rayda. That is what these clowns dont get.
January 14th, 2010 at 6:35 pm
Whatever KK. Why dont you and MR go fuk each other. Continue to be an idiot and ruin this blog.
January 14th, 2010 at 6:35 pm
I say ignore all disrespecting posts. Otherwise we’re feeding the problem.
January 14th, 2010 at 6:36 pm
When I first started doing this 4-5 years ago, I was in the minority. Now YOU are.
The Fans have awoke. Not buying the BS anymore.
January 14th, 2010 at 6:38 pm
KoolKell and Real MR keep posting on Davis because that is where 90% of the blame resides.
Want to talk about all the lousy coaches: Al Davis hires them…Al Davis has the place to a point where no coach with options will take the job
Want to talk about the HORRIBLE draft picks: Davis is the one that drafts based on 40x
How about free agency (Javon Walker, Hall, Kelly)…Davis signs all these guys…
See, Al Davis is the gy making all the decisions. He is also limiting the organization from making the type of moves and hiring the type of staff that can make the team credible
6 winning seasons in 20 years and no change in sight as of today.
I say that the focus needs to continue to be on Al Davis.
Thinking the issue is simply JaMarcus Russell…or even Tom Cable…(both of whom are TERRIBLE BY THE WAY…won’t change the fact that Al Davis and he alone MAKES ALL THE DECISIONS.
January 14th, 2010 at 6:39 pm
KK, I am not the minority. My problem is with your useless posts about obama and MR’s useless posts, not the fact you think AD should go. Every board is one of you two saying first, second, then a bunch of posts about how the Raiders suck and Al sucks. Enough Already! People do not want to read that. Take a vote if you dont believe me.
January 14th, 2010 at 6:40 pm
The 80yr old GM produces this:
09′ 5-11
08′ 5-11
07′ 4-12
06′ 2-14
05′ 4-12
04′ 5-11
03′ 4-12
5 Head Coaches,
8 Starting QB’s.
1 General Manager, Al Davis
January 14th, 2010 at 6:44 pm
Rayda23059 Says:
January 14th, 2010 at 6:31 pm
We may disagree but we are all part of the Raider Nation and should show more respect for eachothers opinions and absent of insults. Unite nation.
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It’s YOUR side that does all the trolling.
It’s YOUR side that tries to silence opinions.
It’s YOUR side that does the stalking.
January 14th, 2010 at 6:45 pm
There are some really smart dudes in here with very diverse perspectives. Nobody is happy with the current situation and we are passionate about winning, which we can all agree. If Cable stays, will Russell start or have to compete in’10?
January 14th, 2010 at 6:45 pm
The reason why the Lions ownership barely gets a mention is because the Owners have delegated to a GM and Head Coach. They made terrible hires and stuck with Millen and others too long…but many believe the Lions can be fixed and they attracted Jim Schwartz (one of the best defensive minds in the league)…..even Shanahan agreed to work for Daniel Snyder…the Raiders COULD NEVER GET A COACH OF THAT CALIBER!….Holmgren agreed to run the Browns…the Falcons could get a Dimitroff as GM…the Chiefs get Pioli, Haley, Weiss and Crennell…Broncos interviewed a slew of top tier candidates….
Yet we are left to choose between Tom Cable and maybe Jim Fassell….Now do you see why people are upset with Al Davis and this terrible situation.
That’s why this situation is so disappointing. Nothing really can change because one guy insists on running everything his way…and he simply is willing to live with these AWFUL results…
January 14th, 2010 at 6:46 pm
# SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
January 14th, 2010 at 6:38 pm
KoolKell and Real MR keep posting on Davis because that is where 90% of the blame resides.
Want to talk about all the lousy coaches: Al Davis hires them…Al Davis has the place to a point where no coach with options will take the job
Want to talk about the HORRIBLE draft picks: Davis is the one that drafts based on 40x
How about free agency (Javon Walker, Hall, Kelly)…Davis signs all these guys…
See, Al Davis is the gy making all the decisions. He is also limiting the organization from making the type of moves and hiring the type of staff that can make the team credible
6 winning seasons in 20 years and no change in sight as of today.
I say that the focus needs to continue to be on Al Davis.
Thinking the issue is simply JaMarcus Russell…or even Tom Cable…(both of whom are TERRIBLE BY THE WAY…won’t change the fact that Al Davis and he alone MAKES ALL THE DECISIONS.
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That is not why. You only have to say it once. Everyone knows Al makes the decisions, but there are other things for people to discuss. Like what will we do with Seymour or Fargas. Who do we want if Cable goes? What free agents do we want? Who should we draft? …WHo cares if Al is in charge? This should have no bearing on the discussion and in no way warrants a peppering of the message board about Al with long articles to spite someone.
January 14th, 2010 at 6:50 pm
Then the Raiders pick all these athletes and surround said athletes with middling coaches…
It amazes me that Huff, Russell, DMAC and DHB have done precious little to get better…
Huff is still not a starter by the way….
How come the Raiders attract these uninspired and indifferent athletes…or at least way more than their share.
Veterans want to bail out…rookies get lazy or regress and the team keeps losing.
6 winning seasons in 20 years…there is not much positive to talk about unless its about the 70s and 80s
The Oakland Coliseum is becoming a living mueseum of the past
January 14th, 2010 at 6:51 pm
Wrong Ricochet. I have not said anything to Mr brown, or you. This is not AIG.
January 14th, 2010 at 6:51 pm
Agree MR
January 14th, 2010 at 6:53 pm
SnB, Huff is a starter and DMAC was injured. He does have a fumbling problem, that can be fixed, but he was not used right.
January 14th, 2010 at 6:55 pm
I think there is plenty of talk about the draft, free agency, Cable, and JaDavis Russell…
But here’s what happens:
Someone posts that Cable has to go and lists some credible reasons…playing Russell all year, DHB etc…
Then a Cable supporter will say…”it was not Cable’s fault Davis (fill in the blank)
Then the poster wanting Cable gone agrees and the two then discuss the dysfunctional things Davis does…
January 14th, 2010 at 6:55 pm
BY the way, I have done nothing to be banned for. I made a screen name and posted. It is not my fault there is a glitch in the system.
January 14th, 2010 at 6:57 pm
When talk of the draft comes up…most of the people will post who they would draft and then end it by saying something like
“it doesn’t matter..Davis will draft (fill in the blank)
If you discuss free agency…the conversation will lead back to Davis too.
I wish we could talk about the players, or draft and all…but Davis so dominates this team and the team is losing and losing badly
January 14th, 2010 at 6:57 pm
BY the way, I have done nothing to be banned for. I made a screen name and posted. It is not my fault there is a glitch in the system.
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You’re a weak-minded coward if you can’t stand up under your own name.
January 14th, 2010 at 6:58 pm
I agree SnB, but you have to admit there is a lot of crap that MR pulls in here to spite people and KK post a lot of political crap. Also he is MR’s sidekick. DO they really contribute to the blog?
January 14th, 2010 at 6:58 pm
Happy New Year to All
It’s good to read that the “regulars” are still on their games.
Sad that AL runs ALL concerend through the ringer.
I appreciate and respect the contributions Al has made to the NFL on and off the field.
Mostly in the 20th century.
It’s time for Al to step aside, or acknowledge that He needs help in the Football Operations portion of the Franchise.
Otherwise, more of the same old stuff, and more of the same old stuff from the “regulars”.
The Raiders have circuled the drain, and are now on their way out to the waste treatment plant.
What a shame. Tough to witness, knowing it can be fixed if an old man would simply acknowledge, He’s not as young as He used to be.
January 14th, 2010 at 7:01 pm
That’s the thing about you Davis worshipers. You can’t make a argument or deny the facts, so you resort to name calling, and name stealing, stalking etc. Weak.
January 14th, 2010 at 7:01 pm
OG is that you?
January 14th, 2010 at 7:02 pm
You know, I think that may be what is happening as we speak. Al is talking to cable about what kind of team he wants and then they are discussing possible gm’s to make it happen. It could be…right? It could be…
January 14th, 2010 at 7:02 pm
KoolKell Says:
January 14th, 2010 at 7:01 pm
That’s the thing about you Davis worshipers. You can’t make a argument or deny the facts, so you resort to name calling, and name stealing, stalking etc. Weak.”
Name calling: The next best thing to being right!
January 14th, 2010 at 7:06 pm
SnB, talking about players, draft and all is still interesting because we all learn from eachother. True, Al will do what he does, and he is a more interesting topic right now especially.
January 14th, 2010 at 7:12 pm
I am indifferent to the political stuff and tend to stay away from it. Therefore, I don’t have a comment one way or another.
All I am saying is that focus and discussion on Al Davis is more than appropriate given the circumstances.
Its not like we are Patriots fans complaining or, hell, even Bengals fans upset that we lost in the 1st round.
Anyway…what do I think needs to happen:
1. Hire a General Manager and give him authority on football decisions
2. Find a head coach that believes in the concepts that the Raiders favor….and give that coach the freedom to do what he has to do to manage the roster and starting lineup and have real input into the draft
3. Let head coach pick his staff from Coordinators to Strength and Conditioning
4. Focus the early rounds on O-Line and D-Line and nothing else
5. Trade for or sign in free agency a veteran MLB that is proven and is a leader
6. Have the coordinators take direction from the head coach and no one else
7. Name Michael Bush the FULL TIME starter at running back with DMAC in to spell him
8. Turn DMAC into a Percy Harvin type player (isn’t that something that Harvin was a rookie?) that’s how a 1st round pick is supposed to help the team
9. Keep Fargas but limit his role to spot duty
10. Name Louis Murphy and Chaz Schilens the starters (PERIOD)
11. Restructure Huff’s contract or trade him..he is not an elite player
12. Have Gradkowski, Losman, JaDavis and another veteran have a no-holds barred competition…if JaDavis can’t win the starting job or shows up out of shape etc…cut him
13. I really don’t know what to do about DHB…what a horrible pick
14. Re-sign Richard Seymour
Those are a few things I would do
January 14th, 2010 at 7:15 pm
Yeah, sounds like Oakglen.
January 14th, 2010 at 7:15 pm
Nice post SnB. KK, more of the same crap.
January 14th, 2010 at 10:07 pm
SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
January 14th, 2010 at 7:12 pm
I am indifferent to the political stuff and tend to stay away from it. Therefore, I don’t have a comment one way or another.
All I am saying is that focus and discussion on Al Davis is more than appropriate given the circumstances.
Its not like we are Patriots fans complaining or, hell, even Bengals fans upset that we lost in the 1st round.
Anyway…what do I think needs to happen:
1. Hire a General Manager and give him authority on football decisions
2. Find a head coach that believes in the concepts that the Raiders favor….and give that coach the freedom to do what he has to do to manage the roster and starting lineup and have real input into the draft
3. Let head coach pick his staff from Coordinators to Strength and Conditioning
4. Focus the early rounds on O-Line and D-Line and nothing else
5. Trade for or sign in free agency a veteran MLB that is proven and is a leader
6. Have the coordinators take direction from the head coach and no one else
7. Name Michael Bush the FULL TIME starter at running back with DMAC in to spell him
8. Turn DMAC into a Percy Harvin type player (isn’t that something that Harvin was a rookie?) that’s how a 1st round pick is supposed to help the team
9. Keep Fargas but limit his role to spot duty
10. Name Louis Murphy and Chaz Schilens the starters (PERIOD)
11. Restructure Huff’s contract or trade him..he is not an elite player
12. Have Gradkowski, Losman, JaDavis and another veteran have a no-holds barred competition…if JaDavis can’t win the starting job or shows up out of shape etc…cut him
13. I really don’t know what to do about DHB…what a horrible pick
14. Re-sign Richard Seymour
Those are a few things I would do
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I can’t argue with any of that logic. I’m sure you also have an opinion on special teams (punt and kickoff returners). This was an especial area of pain for me to watch this past year. If injuries continue to plague us, we need a contingency plan. The fact that we didn’t have one this year was a bad, bad move. We also need a stadium. Demo existing structure and rebuild a football only stadium. Move the A’s to a new site, preferably in Oaktown. Fire Herrera would also be a priority.
January 14th, 2010 at 10:14 pm
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