Still on Al standard time
By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Friday, January 15th, 2010 at 5:31 pm in Oakland Raiders.
Word out of Alameda is that Tom Cable has been at work most of the day but Al Davis has not.
It’s been confirmed the two did meet last night, although estimates of the time they spent together ranged from one to three hours.
Davis could still arrive for a late-night meeting, or it could be put off until the owner feels its time to move ahead. It’s entire possible Davis knows exactly what he’s going to do and Cable knows as well but he hasn’t felt the need to tell anyone.
In theory, if Cable is staying, there’s no reason to announce anything until a press release is produced or a spokesman says, “He’s under contract and we never considered firing him. It’s all media speculation,” as they did following Lane Kiffin’s failed attempt to fire Rob Ryan.
It’s Al’s world, and we’re along for the long, slow ride.
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January 15th, 2010 at 5:36 pm
BAM! First?
January 15th, 2010 at 5:37 pm
Jerry, we are not on Al’s time. Al’s on the media’s time. Al knows that with Haiti, Gilbert Arenas, and Kiffin dominating the news, his huge announcement of replacing Cable with another puppet will be lucky to get 3 seconds at the tail end of sportscenter. He’s waiting till there’s no other big sports related stories, because he knows that’s the only way he’s going to get the main stage. Al is only mysterious to those who buy into his b.s.
January 15th, 2010 at 5:38 pm
I would say we have a coach. Tom Cable. But, I know Al will prove me wrong tonight at ten.
January 15th, 2010 at 5:39 pm
Second!
January 15th, 2010 at 5:43 pm
Yeh, we have a coach, Ghost, who took a 5-11 team to 5-11, and brought more chaos and negative attention than Kiffin could drunk.
January 15th, 2010 at 5:46 pm
If he plans to keep Cable, I hope there is never an announcement and just keeps the media guessing for a few more days. Funny to see the media scramble around for an answer. All this hype around the status of a coach is a creation of the media anyways.
Just too damn long before the next season starts.
January 15th, 2010 at 5:49 pm
Room for Improvement. Just like your post.
January 15th, 2010 at 5:50 pm
Might, who is scrambling for an answer, other than the local media who covers the Raiders, which is their job? Even they really don’t give a s’t. Jerry isn’t scrambling. Just giving a little update once a day, which is, again, his job. Is a cook at McDonald’s scrambling to cook fries just for you, because you’re the king, or is it his job? Because the level of urgency from the local press regarding Davis is about the same. They don’t even really care. The national media? Forget it. The Raiders do not even exist right now, with Haiti (a lot of athletes from there), Arenas in federal court, your guys’ buddy Lane, etc. The national media being booked right now, too booked for any stupid Raider story short of Davis himself kicking the bucket, is the reason Al’s putting this off till next week. We are not on Davis’s time. Davis is on the national media’s time.
January 15th, 2010 at 5:50 pm
Who cares about Cable. The Raiders season is over. None of this is not going to change the 5-11 season. I’ll check back in April 4 the draft.
January 15th, 2010 at 5:52 pm
Sorry, Ghost, it’s just that you said we have a “coach”. We have no such thing. USC has a coach, though. LOL.
January 15th, 2010 at 5:55 pm
LOL, great title Jerry…
January 15th, 2010 at 5:59 pm
Even if it’s not true. We are not on Al standard time. Al is on the national media’s time. Al’s on BSPN time, LOL. They’ll let him know when they have time for a Raiders’ story. If Al Davis fired Cable today, and held a press conference, the only station that would carry it live is that comcast station, that’s it. In other words, nobody would get to hear Al’s big state of the Raiders union speech. And that’s why he’s waiting.
January 15th, 2010 at 6:01 pm
The truth is, there will always be a better story than the Raiders’ head coaching position. Al will wind up keeping Cable, they’ll go 9-7, sneak into the playoffs and win the Super Bowl next year.
January 15th, 2010 at 6:09 pm
I hate these “Your comment is awaiting moderation.”
January 15th, 2010 at 6:11 pm
Some people are bagging on Kiffin for going from Tennessee to USC. The USC job is a no brainer. Anybody would have done that. Kiffin went with a better job without much thought because that was the smart thing to do.
January 15th, 2010 at 6:12 pm
Sounds like we’ll have another 5-11 year next year. Oh Boy. We had three top ten picks in the last three years to improve our offense. All three suck!!!
January 15th, 2010 at 6:16 pm
Bring back Bruce!!
January 15th, 2010 at 6:19 pm
Maybe MR is right. Al Davis gets a kick out of people wondering: what the hell he will do next? He knows this and he just lurks in his own world and opens his mouth when he gets ready. He lives off us trying to figure out his next move. Like in the summer, who the hell saw the Seymour trade coming? Not a single one of us including the media.
January 15th, 2010 at 6:32 pm
The media world: everyone is supposed to be a cartoon character on a predictable schedule with predictable lines and schticks.
Results of free thought and actions: definition unavailable as freedom presupposes untold parameters of being.
Everyone should be like everyone else dammit! Dammit!
January 15th, 2010 at 7:13 pm
So exactly how many hours a day to the General Manager put into his job?
How many hours do other team’s GMs put in?
We don’t stand a chance!
January 15th, 2010 at 7:16 pm
21st!!! AGAIN!! WOO!!
January 15th, 2010 at 7:23 pm
Just got back, lot of catch-up to do.
Can’t help this one:
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The backup QB (Russell) is the one I thought would be a superstar by now,” Ryan said. “He had that 77 rating his rookie year. I’m a little surprised he hasn’t become the superstar. I’m kind of hoping he doesn’t get in the game. That kid can throw it through a storm. I think the young man’s a good kid.”
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Butt licking. Plain and simple. A flat out “yes Mr. Davis, I’ll polish your balls”.
January 15th, 2010 at 7:28 pm
I would prefer that we stay quite and develop a chip on our shoulder. There will be enough news coming out of LA to sink a battle ship. The Media whore is in Media Heaven.
January 15th, 2010 at 7:37 pm
Do you think Tom Cable is in demand for any position around the league? I mean in demand..a must have coach…even as an O-Line coach?
You all know the answer to that question and therin lies the problem.
Raiders and its fans put a lot of hope into marginal at best talent. Whether its players or coaches…
1. Tom Cable can be a great coach? ~ Really?
2. Fargas, Eugene, Morrison, Kelly, Warren have excellent trade value on the open market? ~ No way!
3. Gradkowski can be a savior? ~ spare me
4. Huff, JaDavis, DMAC & DHB will develop into the top 10% of the league at their position groups? How about top 75%….ridiculous
5. Gallery is a pro-bowl guard!
6. Fargas runs so hard
7. Kelly and Warren are stout enough on the D-Line.
Folks…this team is garbage. The coaches are bad, the players are bad and the GM is clueless.
3-13 to 5-11 is on the horizon unless SOMETHING changes
January 15th, 2010 at 7:38 pm
Hey Vegas, if you still out there I just got a text from my guy who is Kareem Jackson’s family member. Said Kareem is declaring. Now we will see what the scouts think of both Bama CBs. Don’t get me wrong, I like em both but I got this feeling Jackson gets drafted first.
Arenas is a zone corner who is 5′9” 192, is an excellent PR.
Jackson is a man to man cover guy who is 5′11” 198.
Both guys are about the same speed.
We’ll see come April.
January 15th, 2010 at 7:41 pm
But don’t you think that cowboy fans were through with Wade Phillips and now he has them headed in the right direction. And he actually has a QB to work with..
January 15th, 2010 at 7:42 pm
I know Sapp has a big mouth and speaks his mind, but everything that comes out of it ain’t all lies.
I was LMFAO when I read this:
http://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/sports/Warren-Sapp-Rips-Into-Tom-Cable-81543512.html
January 15th, 2010 at 7:42 pm
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January 15th, 2010 at 7:45 pm
504,
Looks like whichever goes first, they will both be taken fairly close to each other. I like the play-making ability of Arenas, Jackson may be the more solid player, but…..as they say, we shall see.
January 15th, 2010 at 7:47 pm
# Ghost to the Post Says:
January 15th, 2010 at 7:41 pm
But don’t you think that cowboy fans were through with Wade Phillips and now he has them headed in the right direction. And he actually has a QB to work with..
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None of that was necessarily Wade Phillips. Wade lets Jerry be Jerry, so he just had to win a little more in order to be able to hang around longer. The Cowboys have developed their talent … period. Cable lets Al be Al, so I think he’ll be given a little more leeway. As for our talent, we’ve got some undervalued hard workers and some overpriced bums. It’s bad when your two Pro Bowlers are your punter and a CB that no one ever throws against. DHB? OMG!
January 15th, 2010 at 7:51 pm
yes but, they stuck with the guy even when all of the fans were screaming for his job. I know a few Cowboy fans that were ready to run Wade and Tony out of town. I would prefer to have there problem. And if I’m not mistaken Tony Romo is about the equivalent of Kurt Warner. Lucky to be discovered. Because they were both undrafted.
January 15th, 2010 at 7:52 pm
Ghost to the Post Says:
January 15th, 2010 at 7:41 pm
But don’t you think that cowboy fans were through with Wade Phillips and now he has them headed in the right direction. And he actually has a QB to work with..
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Wade Phillips worked his way up the ranks and has been an NFL head coach on several occassions. He is a well-respected defensive mind as well. Had he been fired last year, someone would have signed immediately as a defensive coordintor.
Tom Cable has done nothing. He might just be out of the league right now given his baggage. I am amazed that people think this 5-11 team is somehow on the cusp of greatness.
5-11!!!!! That is a HORRIBLE RECORD. Plus this guy can’t get the team ready to play each week. Following up wins with massive blowouts…couldn’t even win 2 in a row. The team got worse over the last offseason WITH HIM in charge.
CAble is what he is…a decent O-Line coach when he is focused on that 100%
Get Harbaugh in here. Or Jim Fassell…at least Fassel has NFL Head Coach experience and has had success
January 15th, 2010 at 7:54 pm
Tony Romo wasn’t cut three times by QB needy teams.
I trust their scouting better than the scouting here in Oakland.
When those opposing DCs study that film…fuggettah about it!
January 15th, 2010 at 7:56 pm
Jerry Jones also humbled himself enough to allow Parcells to come in and right the ship. All those players are Parcells guys for the most part as well as the structure.
as for Wade Phillips…even he is a type of coach that is out of range for Oakland.
January 15th, 2010 at 7:57 pm
Think Davis will humble himself for a minute and let someone at least get us back to just being a bad team?
January 15th, 2010 at 8:10 pm
This wish for Davis humbling himself and just doing what’s right is so 1996.
January 15th, 2010 at 8:11 pm
# SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
January 15th, 2010 at 7:54 pm
Tony Romo wasn’t cut three times by QB needy teams.
I trust their scouting better than the scouting here in Oakland.
When those opposing DCs study that film…fuggettah about it!
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Romo may have had his problems, but he has always toed the line politically (even when T.O. was there). He didn’t show up 40 pounds overweight and out of shape, and he didn’t walk around with a toboggan and tights on in 90 degree weather. And he has a nice touch on his throws, too.
January 15th, 2010 at 8:12 pm
I’m not even sure Al would humble himself to the ghost of Papa Bear Halas!
January 15th, 2010 at 8:18 pm
Russell’s overweight because he eats out every night. He grew up poor and now has a pocket full of cash and VIP status at the best restaurants in the bay area. What else is there to do when you play for a hopeless NFL team? Russell could show up in perfect shape, and the Raiders are still 5-11. The Raiders have been finding ways to lose, really, sans the Gruden era, for nearly 20 years now, and Russell has nothing to do with it.
January 15th, 2010 at 8:21 pm
I beg to differ. Russell is the face of the franchise and the leader of the offense, not to mention the fact that Al sank a bunch of money and belief in him — and he’s a pathetic loser. He has made everyone in the organization look like a bunch of fools … and your think that carries no weight? Okay fine, you Herrera wannabe!
January 15th, 2010 at 8:24 pm
Raidertbone
I was responding to a partial comparison of Romo to Gradkowski. Romo was cultivated and developed by a good coach in Bill Parcells.
Gradkowski was cut by three teams in something like 3 years. I just want to know why those qb needy teams dispatched him so quickly…
Gradkowski might prove me wrong…but I have a feeling that his shortcomings will get exposed in a 16 game season.
The truth is that the Raiders do not have a viable QB. Gradkowski is a fringe player that strung together a 2 good outings. He has earned the right to compete in an open competition.
JaDavis is no QB at all. End of discussion
Frye is a coach but not a player and Losman is an unknown.
How about trading that #8 overall for Donavan McNabb and signing him to a 3 year contract. He would give us our 1st good QB in 7 years. Plus Al Davis will just throw the pick away on some kid that won’t develop for 5 years.
January 15th, 2010 at 8:26 pm
# The Real MaddenRaider Says:
January 15th, 2010 at 5:52 pm
Sorry, Ghost, it’s just that you said we have a “coach”. We have no such thing. USC has a coach, though. LOL.
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Let’s see how long Slicky Boy stays at USC when the football program gets hit with a lot of sanctions. I know he said he would have only left Tennessee to go to USC, but you don’t leave a massive program like that after only one year. When they start losing big, I’ll bet Al will start showing up at the Coliseum (with a coke and a smile).
January 15th, 2010 at 8:29 pm
raidertbone Says:
January 15th, 2010 at 8:21 pm
I beg to differ. Russell is the face of the franchise
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What does that even mean, in terms of x’s and o’s, winning and losing?
I’ll say it again, if Russell shows up in perfect shape, and comes out and has perfect games, we will still lose. Our defense will choke. The Raiders find ways to lose. It’s the culture. And Russell is merely one spoke.
January 15th, 2010 at 8:30 pm
# raidertbone Says:
January 15th, 2010 at 8:21 pm
Okay fine, you Herrera wannabe!
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How can I be a Herrera wannabe when I have absolutely no faith in Al Davis?
January 15th, 2010 at 8:30 pm
I would think a 2 & a 2011 3 would get McNabb. That would allow us to get McClain with #8.
January 15th, 2010 at 8:31 pm
# SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
January 15th, 2010 at 8:24 pm
Raidertbone
I was responding to a partial comparison of Romo to Gradkowski. Romo was cultivated and developed by a good coach in Bill Parcells.
Gradkowski was cut by three teams in something like 3 years. I just want to know why those qb needy teams dispatched him so quickly…
Gradkowski might prove me wrong…but I have a feeling that his shortcomings will get exposed in a 16 game season.
The truth is that the Raiders do not have a viable QB. Gradkowski is a fringe player that strung together a 2 good outings. He has earned the right to compete in an open competition.
JaDavis is no QB at all. End of discussion
Frye is a coach but not a player and Losman is an unknown.
How about trading that #8 overall for Donavan McNabb and signing him to a 3 year contract. He would give us our 1st good QB in 7 years. Plus Al Davis will just throw the pick away on some kid that won’t develop for 5 years.
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I agree with you — Gradkowski played hard, but he is not the solution (and besides, he seems kind of fragile). McNabb ain’t going anywhere. Our only real chances are Jason Campbell or Derek Anderson, or pick up someone low in the draft and develop him … or, what the hell, give Southwick a shot. If that Lefevre kid is available in Round Three, I’d take him.
January 15th, 2010 at 8:32 pm
raidertbone Says:
January 15th, 2010 at 8:26 pm
Let’s see how long Slicky Boy stays at USC when the football program gets hit with a lot of sanctions.
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Doubt they will. Money’s all that talks in sports these days. I imagine the most marketable school in the west will somehow squeak by. *wink*
January 15th, 2010 at 8:34 pm
If we could trade down from our slot in the first round so that we could pick up three players by the middle to the end of the second round, I would go for that. We need more young, strong talented players; we’ve done enough gambling with older guys.
January 15th, 2010 at 8:38 pm
Midwest Fan Says:
January 15th, 2010 at 8:30 pm
I would think a 2 & a 2011 3 would get McNabb. That would allow us to get McClain with #8.
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The number or number 3 pick is actually more valuable in Raiderland than the #1 pick ever will be.
When’s the last decent player we got with a 1st round pick. And then pay all that money and celebrate said player’s ascension to mediocrity (see Huff)
I’ve seen enough. Al Davis has no clue what he is doing. Therfore, the best option is to trade these high picks for proven players.
Seymour, at age 30, is the 2nd best #1 draft pick this team has made in a decade and Nnamdi just happen to have a tremendous work ethic and thirst for knowledge. I am quite confident to believe that Davis did not evaluate Nnamdi’s work ethic…he drafted a safety to play corner and he found an acorn!
January 15th, 2010 at 8:40 pm
Good NBA games on tonight for those who watch.
I’ve been wanting McClain for awhile. Don’t think it’ll happen though.
Go Blazers!
January 15th, 2010 at 8:41 pm
Too funny on that Sapp story…kind of wonder why he even came here in the first place…wait, he loves Mr. Davis!!!
January 15th, 2010 at 8:41 pm
from Peter King at SI.COM
When the Bills began this process, they made it clear they’re going through a long process that won’t be short-cutted unless Cowher would have said yes early. Look for this to take between a week and a month to get resolved. If they’re the only job open (other than Oakland, which almost doesn’t count because the pool of candidates is so different), why rush? But I do know they like Frazier a lot.
Read More: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/writers/peter_king/01/12/mail/index.html#ixzz0ckNzRBoe
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January 15th, 2010 at 8:50 pm
If I am the Raiders I am hoping a McNabb or Hasselback gets released.
The Raiders are incapable of developing a QB…therfore, they have to get someone elses leftovers…like rummaging through a yard sale, or flea market, or garbage can….looking for something to keep going.
The Raiders have to take a veteran and hope….I am on the phone with Philly in the AM offering that 1st round pick that if kept will turn into yet another BUST
January 15th, 2010 at 8:56 pm
The truth is that the Raiders do not have a viable QB. Gradkowski is a fringe player that strung together a 2 good outings. He has earned the right to compete in an open competition.
JaDavis is no QB at all. End of discussion
Frye is a coach but not a player and Losman is an unknown.
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Nice assessment.
Losman is only an unknown as far as the Raiders are concerned though. They’ll find out more by the end of next pre-season.
I’d like to see them bring in Charlie Whitehurst from SD next year. And perhaps Drew Willy if the Colts can’t make room for him on their roster.
I’m a fan of Charlie Frye, but he has a limited upside. He’s still too young to start coaching, but he will never be starter material. If they bring in another QB, then Frye will be the first one gone…
January 15th, 2010 at 9:00 pm
SnB,
A first rounder for McNabb?
I’ve always liked the guy, but that’s too steep a price. No team will give up a first rounder for him. A 2nd at best.
More likely scenario is that they just cut him.
I think Hasslebeck gets one more year to produce before he’s on the hot seat. Especially with a new coach coming in there.
January 15th, 2010 at 9:06 pm
Remember. McNabb saught out Russell before the PHI/OAK game this year. Russell redoes his contract & we get a legit QB. That’s scary. Know most have given up on Russell, but look at what Young has done for Ten. If he can truly see how the QB position is played, than just maybe. Just maybe. He can be our future. (I don’t see it myself)
January 15th, 2010 at 9:08 pm
The Eagles would be foolish to get rid of McNabb. Finding a good QB is very difficult…as the Raiders unfortunately know real well. If you get to the playoffs…then that a success…what the Eagles have to do is build the team up on the defense and o-line. Also run the ball.
Carolina would jump on McNabb in a minute and they would be a playoff team.
I am so sick of having no QB play. For most of my years watching the Raiders…they have mostly had plodding and ineffective QBs.
I’ll take McNabb in a minute. He instantly would become the top 3 or 4 QBs in Raider history. Plus he knows the West Coast offense.
As for the 1st rounder…why not…the Raiders have to stop taking players that high..it eats up cap space and these guys bust out. The 3rd round pick is more valuable than the 1st around heree
January 15th, 2010 at 9:11 pm
Who thinks that McNabb is worth a 2 & a future 3?
January 15th, 2010 at 9:17 pm
Only Raider fans will take a conversation between two players and think it’s some kind of deal in the works. McNabb was just hollering at him.
January 15th, 2010 at 9:20 pm
Davis has always been a fan of bringing in old cast off QB’s a giving them a second or third chance. So I wouldn’t put it passed him if he were to pick up McNabb. He’s only tried drafting QB a few times. And after Russell, I wouldn’t expect him to try again any time soon.
Would McNabb be worth a 2nd rounder? Sure.
January 15th, 2010 at 9:20 pm
The Eagles have gone as far as they can with McNabb. The future is Kolb in PHI. Why not get something out of McNabb while they can. They just lost their GM too.
January 15th, 2010 at 9:25 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
January 15th, 2010 at 9:17 pm
Only Raider fans will take a conversation between two players and think it’s some kind of deal in the works. McNabb was just hollering at him.
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He hasn’t been cut or placed on the trading block yet. But after 10 years of trying to get over the hump, the impatient Eagle fans will calling for his head.
Andy Reid may also be looking for a different formula to get the job done.
Kolb has looked solid in his limited appearances. They also have Vick in the mix.
Besides, dare to dream…
January 15th, 2010 at 9:28 pm
Whine whine whine cry cry cry every everyday……
Get a freakin’ LIFE!!
Any fool that would take Derek Anderson over Russell should take up knitting…..football is not your forte.
January 15th, 2010 at 9:32 pm
ha ha. im da sole reason 4 yur comment is wait1n moderation .. ban me suckas
January 15th, 2010 at 9:34 pm
honestly . if i were da eagles . i would go with kevin kolb. seems like time 2 change it up thee ,. id trade westborook too while he still has sum value .
January 15th, 2010 at 9:36 pm
Here’s a repost…
I saw Shefter this morning on ESPN. He said… “While no one knows for sure what Al Davis will do, the consensus around the league is that sweeping changes are coming. Not only will Cable be fired, but a handful of assistant coaches as well.”
Al should be reaching out to Pete Carmichael, Jr.
Offensive Coordinator for the New Orleans Saints
Here is a link
http://www.neworleanssaints.com/Team/Staff/People/Pete%20Carmichael%20Jr.aspx
January 15th, 2010 at 9:36 pm
I know McNabb is far better than anything we’ve had in a while, but I also think he’s kind of a tool. Not sure why. Guy just rubs me the wrong way. Might be because he thinks he’s hilarious but he’s really kind of a goofy dork. Plus he’s approaching the downslope of his career. Obviously he could pay big dividends and lead us back to respectability right away, but something about that move bothers me.
January 15th, 2010 at 9:44 pm
Raider75 Says:
January 15th, 2010 at 9:36 pm
Here’s a repost…
I saw Shefter this morning on ESPN. He said… “While no one knows for sure what Al Davis will do, the consensus around the league is that sweeping changes are coming. Not only will Cable be fired, but a handful of assistant coaches as well.”
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That’s why Willie Brown got outta town…
(Hey that rhymes…)
January 15th, 2010 at 9:47 pm
Al should be reaching out to Pete Carmichael, Jr.
Offensive Coordinator for the New Orleans Saints
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He was a WR coach in SD. That’s where Al got his start.
January 15th, 2010 at 10:04 pm
All you pompous California idiots think that USC is a no brainer over Tennessee. It is for a slimeball like Lane Kiffin maybe. Is USC a stronger school than UT ? Yeah, maybe, but Tennessee is also in a conference that has won the last 4 National Championships.
Sorry to bring facts into your wine and cheese party discussion of West Coast superiority.
Only discussion is which SEC team will win it all next year.
January 15th, 2010 at 10:11 pm
…and I’m actually from California and I know the ‘attitude’ that pervades the thinking.
Cali. is a great state with a lot of good people, but there are also a lot of cocky folks who think everybody who isn’t from the West Coast is a dumb hick.
They may be hicks down in the Southeast, but they sure know how to play football.
January 15th, 2010 at 10:21 pm
wtf????
January 15th, 2010 at 10:25 pm
FROM THE DESK OF AL DAVIS:
re: Tom Cable
I was going to fire Tom Cable this past week. However, the story was leaked and Adam Schefter from ESPN reported that I was going to fire him.
Therefore, Tom Cable will now be retained as head coach in order to spite Adam Schefter.
PS John, send out a press release calling Schefter a big fat liar liar liar. ( That’ll show ‘em)
Love Al, ;}
January 15th, 2010 at 10:35 pm
Cable is staying. The longer there’s silence, especially after these guys meeting about the team twice the more likely he’s going to stay and the team will just continue to screw with the media by not saying anything about it and pretending to be oblivious to the reports.
January 15th, 2010 at 10:39 pm
Looks as though NY is right.
January 15th, 2010 at 10:45 pm
lol
I got 75
January 15th, 2010 at 10:48 pm
I dont understand why the media is staking out HQ, thinking theres going to be some firing,..its really stupid,…does local media in every NFL city do this after every year?…clearly the Raiders go through coaches, but why the media stakes out the place, waiting around for whatever,..theres not going to be any firings, nor should there be,…if the team fires the coach, fine, then the media should get down there to cover it,..but staking out Raiders HQ waiting around,..totally silly,..if I was a media person and the boss told me to sit in a truck every day in that parking lot, F that, wouldnt do it…there isnt going to be any firing, never was going to be,…the media fell into a trap, and now look retarded,..especially comcast sports.
January 15th, 2010 at 10:49 pm
Speaking of 75, did any of you guys see the 50th Birthday Raiders Cake they gave Howie Long on the FOX Set last week?
January 15th, 2010 at 11:11 pm
Time has proven that Jerry Jones > Al Davis in every way.
He’s turned a national icon (cowboys) into a financial juggernaut, a space-aged stadium that does get filled out with high-prices for ticketing and food/beverages, has won a couple Superbowls, and his organization is far more stable and run with accountability than his good friend’s team, the Raiders….who Al has turned a national icon (raiders) into a financial basket-case, at the very bottom of not only NFL but all US pro-sport teams, stadium in decay, can’t even sell out his games, has engineered only one Lamar Hunt Trophy and otherwise 10+ losing seasons for practically a whole decade now, with no accountability in the organization but just a soap-opera circus.
Raiders like a class clown sent to the corner of the room with a dunce hat on.
Thank-you, Mr Davis (grrr).
January 15th, 2010 at 11:16 pm
GG,..seems to me its you who is wearing the dunce cap.
January 15th, 2010 at 11:16 pm
Yeah, but Al got Todd Cristensen from the Cowboys…That should make them even…
Right?
January 15th, 2010 at 11:18 pm
All of those things you say about the team, yet you cant stop loving, cant stay away, cant look away, you feel abused but wont file for divorce,…no matter how bad this team is, in your eyes, you will never leave,..whos the dunce?…I dont see things as you do, I see promise and hope,..all a matter of perspective bud,…and yours is dreary, not mine. 2010 will be awesome!
January 15th, 2010 at 11:19 pm
Norco….
Me? I think the only person wearing a dunce cap is Al. He’s the one who is suffering the most from his own management—-his organization is in ruins financially, etc.
January 15th, 2010 at 11:22 pm
If you owned a soft drink company, Norco, eg, Pepsi, and you turned that iconic financial juggernaut into bankruptcy, thru poor management and abuse, who is the joke on? Pepsi drinkers? Or the Pepsi owner? How would the joke be on Pepsi drinkers? You’d be the idiot businessman who took an empire to the toilet.
January 15th, 2010 at 11:25 pm
Who told you Al is suffering financially GG?…his accountant?…lawyers?…oh, was it some people in this blog?…lol.
January 15th, 2010 at 11:27 pm
In fact, Mark Davis will probably turn out to be a far more savvy businessman than Al. As an owner, he’ll cede football operations to a new structure and hire GMs, scouts, etc, delegate a lot of other administration facets to hired hands, accountability will ensue, and from that on-field success, and then ultimately the money will start rolling in big time again, manage to drum up a new space-aged stadium etc, etc.
Whereas Al is purely focused on his own personal image, the power-trip of doing things his way only irrespective of financial and football failure, etc.
January 15th, 2010 at 11:33 pm
You’re missing the point, Norco.
At one time the Cowboys and Raiders in the 70’s were the icons of pro-football. One turned into the 1st on Forbes list, the other into the 32nd on Forbes list. One has a brand new stadium, the other doesnt and cannot convince its city or even LA to fund one for it. One has never been a sustained basket-case on the field, the other has. One has fans filling the rafters at high costs, buying merchandise, etc. The other has fans boycotting their games/merchandise. Etc.
That’s pretty decisive what is “struggling” and what is “not struggling”.
January 15th, 2010 at 11:34 pm
What makes you think Mark Davis will be great at business or anything else?…what has he done that you know of that makes you think he will be smart about anything?
January 15th, 2010 at 11:35 pm
Then how did he get to the SB 7 years ago? Oh! I know Jon Gruden …except Jon Gruden wasn’t here.lol
January 15th, 2010 at 11:36 pm
Whats the point?…what have the Dallas Cowboys have to do with the Oakland Raiders?…until a week ago it had been about 14 years since they won a playoff game,…ever been to Texas?…more money there then Saudi Arabia,…the people who built that stadium did it wit hthere walking around money,…the niners have won 5 rings and cant get a bathroom remoded at candlestick,…this state is impossible to get a stadium built, unless you spend your own money.
January 15th, 2010 at 11:38 pm
If you want to compare Davis to Jones,..fine by me,..theres a wing in Canton that Al Davis has there,..Iv seen it,..Jerry Jones would have to pay admission to get in, just like I did.
January 15th, 2010 at 11:40 pm
What has it got to do with the Cowboys?
I’m illustrating how two close friends (Al, Jerry) have gone down to very different paths as owners. One has done “all this” to turn his product into a juggernaut, respectable, on-field and off, into 1st on Forbes list. The other has taken his empire to the toilet on-field and off, into 32nd on Forbes list.
It’s like a Tale of Two Cities observation.
January 15th, 2010 at 11:42 pm
Norco,
There’s 3 good points.
1) What has Mark Davis done?
2) Texas has enough oil money to pay for a stadium.
3) California is verging on bankruptcy and will not fund a Raider stadium.
January 15th, 2010 at 11:43 pm
Al Davis got into the HOF a long time ago before he went mad and flushed his empire down the toilet, and starting to damage his own legacy. Just cos someone got in the HOF for great service 20 years ago doesnt mean they’re immune from constructive and public microscopic criticism if they’ve gone on to write 8 new chapters of the years 2002-2009.
January 15th, 2010 at 11:45 pm
Valid point about Texas, but take a look at other NFL cities/teams. A lot of them arent as dire as the Raiders and some of them are small or non-oil market teams like Packers, Carolina, Tennessee, etc.
January 15th, 2010 at 11:46 pm
GG,..why not let Al Davis worry about all that?…its his team?…why are you so concerned about how Forbes magazine feels about the Raiders?…is all this really that important to you?…hows your potfolio?…I can tell you this, Al Doesnt doesnt have any concern about your career, bank account balance,…he doesnt even know you exist and yet you are fretting over him…odd behavior.
January 15th, 2010 at 11:47 pm
* 2003-2010
January 15th, 2010 at 11:47 pm
Post#55 complete lunacy at it’s best. Cut McNabb??
Fans are simply INSANE!!! Andy Reid aint no fan and he aint nearly as stupid as you guy’s think. The Raiders would give the the Eagles a 1st rnd pick in a NY second for McNabb and so would any other GM that needs a QB. The Bears gave Denver 2 1st for Cutler. We would be a playoff team immediately.
January 15th, 2010 at 11:48 pm
GG,..go google state tax laws, state by state,..its no accident large companies leave California,…either to Arizona, Nevada or Mexico.
January 15th, 2010 at 11:49 pm
I dont like how the man runs his team, but it is his team, not mine,…I sure wouldnt want his advice on how I manage my career, its none of his business.
January 15th, 2010 at 11:50 pm
That’s the most stupid retort, Norco. Why are you concerned about it? Derr, anyone who is a fan or analyst, who loves NFL, has a ‘right’ to be concerned. Why do YOU get concerned if the President flushes the nation down the toilet? Why do YOU get concerned if your bank starts going bankrupt? Why do you get concerned if your municipality starts abusing money and neglects upgrading infrastructure within your town? Etc of other examples.
January 15th, 2010 at 11:51 pm
Gotta run,,…will leave you with this,..I attend every game with friends,…we had a blast this year, one of our best years ever,..and we are looking forward to 2010,…if they win more then they lose, great, if not, bfd…goodnight.
January 15th, 2010 at 11:52 pm
GG,..all those other examples I do get concerned about, not a football team I dont though, not in the least bit.
January 15th, 2010 at 11:55 pm
You’re attitude is poor imo. You’re attitude is “so what if you’re fan”. Same attitude Davis has….damn be the fans, who cares about them, force-feed them manure and they have no reason to complain, just shut up and keep spending money on the product i own. Draconian business ideology. Fans have a lot of power to the owners. Without the fans, the owners have no income. And most of the smart owners take care to ensure the fans are happy with the product.
January 15th, 2010 at 11:57 pm
If you’re not concerned whatsoever about the Raiders slipping into embarrassment, then that’s actually detrimental and disingenious of you as a fan. It’s like if govt policy or corruption is on principle bad, the people shouldnt revolt, rally, and pressure powermongers into change for the good.
January 15th, 2010 at 11:57 pm
If youre unhappy with the product dude there are 31 other teams you know.
January 15th, 2010 at 11:57 pm
Norco Bob Says:
January 15th, 2010 at 11:51 pm
Gotta run,,…will leave you with this,..I attend every game with friends,…we had a blast this year, one of our best years ever,..and we are looking forward to 2010,…if they win more then they lose, great, if not, bfd…goodnight.
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That says it.
No matter how bad the Raiders get, there will always be the faithful who will go to the games.
Not because the team is worth watching, but because their friends are there, and they have a good time.
Nothing wrong with that.
January 15th, 2010 at 11:58 pm
Its football GG, not life and death government affairs,…Jesus Christ man, its football,..people go to games to watch it and get drunk,..its football,..not really that important,..enjoy it for what it is.
January 16th, 2010 at 12:00 am
Football fandom is life and death lol. Since when was it not? It is far more the consensus/norm that fans of sporting teams fall in love literally and invest their lives into supporting and representing that team.
January 16th, 2010 at 12:01 am
If Al is going to change his ways and bring in someone to help run the team, it won’t be becasue of financial reasons. He can run the team in the red until he dies.
If Al changes, it will because he wants to. Because he is ashamed of the product on the field.
Because he wants to change. Not because someone tells him to. Even bankers.
January 16th, 2010 at 12:04 am
You’re just pretending to not care because the team sucks so bad for a decade. Like an in-built defense mechanism to protect yourself from aggravation and ridicule etc. But when the Raiders start becoming good again, or when they were good decades ago, you would’ve busted neck veins every day over them. Riding them hard thru each season with pride. It seems you, not me, have given up the ghost. Im still as always life and death. You’ve just resolved yourself to not emotionally care so much until they start being good again.
January 16th, 2010 at 12:07 am
If its life and death to you GG then you will almost always dislike football,…you have to go through dark periods to enjoy the salad days my friend,…be happy you have 3 rings, alot of teams dont have any,…think the Packers had a terrible time from that spell of about 30 years in between superbowls?..they didnt, they enjoyed their team, if you only feel good about your team when they are winning, well you are setting yourself up to usually be pissed off,…this past 5-11 season was great, to me,…good night all.
January 16th, 2010 at 12:08 am
Nope GG, youre wrong,..again.
January 16th, 2010 at 12:10 am
Haha, that short terse reply = “youre right GG”.
You know it. You’ve given up the ghost, fair-weather fan in the emotional sense.
If that’s how you prefer to conduct your emotional sporting life, that’s your prerogative, but dont give me this BS pointing the finger to me telling ME to support another team, like you think you’re a better/truer fan than someone else.
January 16th, 2010 at 12:18 am
Norco: “I dont emotionally care during these bad times, so Im a truer/better fan than you, go support another team, i’m earning cookies on a blog message board among other fans. Someone who doesnt care and doesnt complain > someone who does care and complains.”
That’s essentially “you” from what you’ve been retorting.
GG: “Grr, I emotionally care thru thick and thin, good and bad, and when things are bad, I will grrr and invest thought into critcizing the areas that really ought to be changed, discussing among other fans, because we ALL want them to be good again. We are ALL raider brothers and sisters together. I do not put down fans or try to earn cookies chest-beating trying to bully others that im a bigger/better/truer than others. When things are corrupt/bad like they are, we ought to criticize and not bury heads in the sand.”
That’s essentially “me”.
January 16th, 2010 at 12:21 am
So this Real MaddenRaider fellow spent almost all of Friday posting about Al Davis. What a dismal life dude must lead. I mean, Vlad the Impaler had a happier life than this clown.
January 16th, 2010 at 12:23 am
It’s the same evil as Herrerra putting down and mocking Gannon and Brown etc who are long-time loyal Raider fans/players for criticizing Al or the Raiders, offering to help the organization in some way. You’re not the “Raiders”, no one who played ever was, only Al is the “Raiders”, so you’re banned from this stadium, you’re an enemy, etc.
That’s essentially what you guys who put down complaining fans are doing. You’re Herrarra-ing fans.
January 16th, 2010 at 12:28 am
You have to kiss Al’s butt, bury your head in the sand, and deign Al a football god at all times, otherwise youre not a real fan so go support another team.
This is the single-most evil phenomenon in message boards around the world I see, regardless of the sport/team. Fans of a team that used to be good, but is now bad, where there’s a portion of fans who Herrerra other fans…trying to earn forum cookies, trying to chest-beat about how they and they alone are true/better fans, telling everyone else to support another team, and a clique of mods emerging where they try to censor the forum from any negative criticisms, start banning people unless they all herd like sheep.
January 16th, 2010 at 12:33 am
For an organization that prides itself on being mayhemic, it’s funny how fans or team forums want to eradicate mayhem/chaos among themselves, and instead want to turn “Raidernation” and the message board into a grazing field for sheep. We MUST all think the same, we must all baaa together in praise.
January 16th, 2010 at 12:38 am
Yeaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
January 16th, 2010 at 12:40 am
# Seymour Bush Says:
January 16th, 2010 at 12:21 am
So this Real MaddenRaider fellow spent almost all of Friday posting about Al Davis. What a dismal life dude must lead. I mean, Vlad the Impaler had a happier life than this clown.
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Vlad the Impaler was dope first off! And second………..MR is a closet case and a self admitted troll. He is a virgin with no life. You want a blueprint for killing him? Just watch my posts closely
January 16th, 2010 at 12:43 am
Nice rant.
January 16th, 2010 at 12:47 am
Norco Bob=real raider just like the GREAT ONE
January 16th, 2010 at 12:50 am
Nice to see two opposing sides making intelligent points instead of just name calling.
January 16th, 2010 at 1:06 am
” It’s entire possible Davis knows exactly what he’s going to do and Cable knows as well but he hasn’t felt the need to tell anyone.”
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It is “entire” possible. Thats why I said it days ago. Like the Chris Johnson contract that never was…
January 16th, 2010 at 1:12 am
Fix the O line.
Get a BLOCKING fullback with functioning knees.
Get a run stuffing MLB.
Depth at CB.
January 16th, 2010 at 1:46 am
The haters argument as for why cable should be fired is because his strength is o-line and the o-line played horrible. I say yes the O-line played horrible but look at the players al gave cable top work with. We lose jake groke, gallery gets hurt, and cooper carlisle is regressing as he’s getting older, that added onto the fact that we have a patch work rt who shouldn’t start and wouldn’t start on any other team in cornell green.
Now tell me what coach could win with this line, or make the line look good with the players on the roster. Al should have picked Micheal oher instead of dhb and given cable some real talent to work with. Our o-line has been crap since art shell was coach, and since then al has drafted only one lineman and thats henderson. In four drafts he has only picked one lineman…smh Not even bill cowher can make this line good. He’d have to add new players in order for it to work and we all know who controls who comes in and who goes on this team.
January 16th, 2010 at 1:52 am
Russel okung should be our first pick. I dont care if we have to trade up to get him… We must get him.
And terrance cody is a mammoth of a man, I know alot of people rag on him on this blog but do not know just how athletic he is. The guy is over 300 pounds can dunk, and runs a for 4.8… at over 300lbs!!!
January 16th, 2010 at 5:30 am
Good Morning Raider Nation!
In case LMN is reading:
There was a conference in France where a number of international engineers were taking part, including French and American. During a break, one of the French engineers came back into the room saying ‘Have you heard the latest dumb stunt Obama has done? He has sent an aircraft carrier to Haiti to help the earthquake victims. What does he intended to do, bomb them?’
A Boeing engineer stood up and replied quietly:
‘Our carriers have three hospitals on board that can treat several hundred people; they are nuclear powered and can supply
emergency electrical power to shore facilities; they have three cafeterias with the capacity to feed 3,000 people three meals a day,
they can produce several thousand gallons of fresh water from sea water each day, and they carry half a dozen helicopters for use in transporting victims and injured to and from their flight deck. We have eleven such ships; how many does France have?’
The silence was deafening.
January 16th, 2010 at 5:38 am
Morning NATION!!!!
Nice Post Exla….yeah
January 16th, 2010 at 5:47 am
Perhaps THIS is the year we start to build the organization. We already have Nnamdi and Shane, Bush and DMac (if he stays healthy) in the backfield, Miller and Meyers at the tights, Chaz and Murphy at the wides, Gallery and Henderson are still serviceable on the line, we can still get some production out of Ellis and Seymour; and Trevor and Matt show promise as good young defensive players (as do Mitchell and Huff). And we have a kick-ass kicker. Now, we need to really focus on building young, solid, strong lines. If I had my choice of any of the guys available in the draft, I would start with Okung and then go defense. Since Okung will probably be gone, there are other good options — but we need to go BIG this year.
January 16th, 2010 at 6:31 am
Excellent post exla! Excellent! For all the obvious and right reasons!
AS for that discussion last night. I think Norco Bob has the right idea and I have moved towards that position. The only difference is that I would like to see the team just be competitive. I know that the chances of being a good team are remote because of
davis…but the team can at least be competitive.
Cable should be fired. His teams DON’T get ready to play each week and the team suffers inexplicable blowouts to teams that aren’t really that good.
Get a competent coach that can get us to the 7-9 to 9-7 world. A guy like Fassell. He knows QBs and how to run the football. Have Fassell HC with Hackett as the O.C…
It still might not work. But at least it will make things interesting. We have what we have….and after 7 years of losing and 6 winning seasons in 20 years…I, just like Norco Bob, just enjoy sundays and the opportunity to kick back some drinks, good food and watch with friends….also for me its fun to go to a couple of road games per year.
Just be competitive and make the game watchable into the 4th QTR…to me that’s victory
January 16th, 2010 at 6:36 am
last night we witnessed a series of posts by Norco Bob… the lucidity of which we may never see again…
however… sobriety on the part of Norco Bob should not be encouraged…
as it would deprive us all of much needed entertainment when it comes to our Raiders…
so… drink up, Bob, have some smoke… we need your craziness…
that is all…
January 16th, 2010 at 6:37 am
SnB…
it’s pretty bad when we look forward to mediocrity…
that is all…
January 16th, 2010 at 6:42 am
Morning all.
January 16th, 2010 at 6:43 am
Ref:post 129.
Who cares what a bunch of cheese eating surrender monkeys think ?
January 16th, 2010 at 6:44 am
The French Flag : a white cross on a white background.
January 16th, 2010 at 6:55 am
exla..
LOL, i dont believe it, why would a frenchmen say something negative about Obama, we all like him over here…
what really should be said, is why are Obama able to respond so quickly and powerful when disaster stroke in Haiti when Bush was so slow and futile when disaster stroke his own soil in New Orleans…
now thats the real question…
January 16th, 2010 at 7:03 am
Florida Pete Says:
January 16th, 2010 at 6:37 am
SnB…
it’s pretty bad when we look forward to mediocrity…
that is all…
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But it is that bad and there is nothing anyone can do or say about it. Davis is going to run the ship his way and has the right to do so.
Norco Bob hit the nail on the head. Just enjoy the games or find something else to do because nothing is going to change.
Puppet coaches, 40x busts, free agent hacks, outdated methodology…it is what it is…as they say.
I like watching the Raiders, but I have to admit that after that Giants debacle…I’ve kind of given back a little…just a little bit more apathy setting in
January 16th, 2010 at 7:10 am
Here’s another for you LMN:
Robert Whiting, an elderly gentleman of 83, arrived in Paris by plane. At French Customs, he took a few minutes to locate his passport in his carry on.
“You have been to France before, monsieur?” the customs officer asked sarcastically.
Mr. Whiting admitted that he had been to France previously.
“Then you should know enough to have your passport ready.”
The American said,
‘The last time I was here, I didn’t have to show it.”
“Impossible. Americans always have to show your passports on arrival in France !”
The American senior gave the Frenchman a long hard look. Then he quietly explained,
”Well, when I came ashore at Omaha Beach on D-Day in 1944 to help liberate this country, I couldn’t find a single Frenchmen to show a passport to.”
You could have
heard a pin drop.
January 16th, 2010 at 7:14 am
Hahr harh harh!
funny, well if I would you i would respond with an joke, when Obama once again have showed how stupid his predecessor was.. and whats really bad, you fools voted him in TWICE…
January 16th, 2010 at 7:14 am
Hehehehe!!
January 16th, 2010 at 7:14 am
La Milicia Negra Says:
January 16th, 2010 at 6:55 am
exla..
LOL, i dont believe it, why would a frenchmen say something negative about Obama, we all like him over here…
what really should be said, is why are Obama able to respond so quickly and powerful when disaster stroke in Haiti when Bush was so slow and futile when disaster stroke his own soil in New Orleans…
now thats the real question…
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The answer is after the Katrina disaster, many emergency plans for the U.S. and other countries needing our help were changed with supplies being prepositioned around the world making it easier for future President’s to respond. Kinda like plans being modified after ship hijackings.
January 16th, 2010 at 7:14 am
More jokes ’bout the french please!
January 16th, 2010 at 7:15 am
AL JUST TEXTED ME
He wants to draft Toby & Tebow. He says that will put the haters back in their seats.
January 16th, 2010 at 7:17 am
I know in my area, we are collecting water, food, and supplies to be shipped in containers to Haiti. Is your citizens doing the same? I hope so. Also local Doctor’s are going to Haiti with medicines from local hospitals.
January 16th, 2010 at 7:18 am
my dream offseason:
draft
1. okung
2. cody
3. mike lupati
3. javier arenas/sydquan thompson
4.dexter mcClustes
switch to a 3-4 alignment and sign merriman in free agency.
January 16th, 2010 at 7:19 am
Here is another one Neilb:
A U.S. Navy Admiral was attending a naval conference that included Admirals from the U.S. , English, Canadian, Australian and French Navies. At a cocktail reception, he found himself standing with a large group of Officers that included personnel from most of those countries. Everyone was chatting away in English as they sipped their drinks but a French admiral suddenly complained that, whereas Europeans learn many languages, Americans learn only English. He then asked, ‘Why is it that we always have to speak English in these conferences rather than speaking French?’
Without hesitating, the American Admiral replied,
‘Maybe it’s because the Brit’s, Canadians, Aussie’s and Americans arranged it so you wouldn’t have to speak German.’
January 16th, 2010 at 7:19 am
Norco didnt say that at all….he said, go support another team, and that he’s a true fan because he is an emotional fair-weather fan—when they’re good is the only time he’ll emotionally invest.
Also Florida Pete is right, not Norco. Accepting mediocrity is Al forcing the fans to kneel down and suck on the barrel of a gun, “keep buying merchandise and tickets, keep funding my empire that i willfully neglect and ruin, keep buying culinary manure and enjoy the taste, go back to sleep, everything is fine, your god is running the show, don’t worry, the greatness of the Raiders is returning next season.”
Norco said i was the one wearing a dunce cap. But he’s the one who buys tickets and food/beverages at the games, keeps buying merchandise and waving his little Raider flag for Al. It’s not the I or others are not true Raider fans….it’s all about the fan FORCING change at the top by boycotting and rallying. Al will HAVE TO listen to his hip-pocket. We’d be doing a disservice to the Raiders and their past greatness by just throwing our hands up and still funding it with a forced smile on our faces just so we dont drink our misery away every weekend.
Sure, Al is a legend and did great things league-wide and for the Raiders, etc. But everyone loses their marbles eventually, especially huge egos like Al. For instance, I love Paul Brown, but look how he eventually ruined the Browns with his stubborn megalomaniac ego in his old age.
January 16th, 2010 at 7:19 am
exLA…
bwahahahahah, thats propablye the worst excuse I EVER heard…
I have a question, why use helicopters to evacuate? when the southern parts of the US has the worlds greatest fleet of hoover-crafts? why keep evacuate 3-4 per flight when you could get 30 a time… why wouldnt the republicans save their own people when democrats have no problem saving neighbors?
January 16th, 2010 at 7:20 am
Exla
Where are you at?
January 16th, 2010 at 7:20 am
Last one Neilb:
Secretary of State, Dean Rusk, was in France in the early 60’s when DeGaulle decided to pull out of NATO.
DeGaulle said he wanted all US military out of France as soon as possible.
Rusk responded
“Does that include those who are buried here?”
DeGaulle did not respond.
January 16th, 2010 at 7:22 am
Plunketthead Says:
January 16th, 2010 at 7:20 am
Exla
Where are you at?
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Northwest Ohio.
January 16th, 2010 at 7:23 am
All good Exla !!
January 16th, 2010 at 7:24 am
Its Thomas, the America hating military logistics adviser from euroland.
Have you joined Soldiers For Islam or are you gonna wait for Sharia Law to be enacted before you submit
January 16th, 2010 at 7:25 am
okay, if its baad baad joke day… I better join in with my favorite…
——
Americans: “Please divert your course 15 degrees to the North to avoid a collision.”
Canadians: “Recommend you divert YOUR course 15 degrees to the South to avoid a collision.”
Americans: “This is the captain of a US Navy ship. I say again, divert YOUR course.”
Canadians: “No, I say again, you divert YOUR course.”
Americans: “THIS IS THE AIRCRAFT CARRIER USS ABRAHAM LINCOLN, THE SECOND LARGEST SHIP IN THE UNITED STATES’ ATLANTIC FLEET. WE ARE ACCOMPANIED BY THREE DESTROYERS, THREE CRUISERS AND NUMEROUS SUPPORT VESSELS. I DEMAND THAT YOU CHANGE YOUR COURSE 15 DEGREES NORTH. THAT’S ONE-FIVE DEGREES NORTH, OR COUNTER MEASURES WILL BE UNDERTAKEN TO ENSURE THE SAFETY OF THIS SHIP.”
Canadians: “This is a lighthouse. Your call.”
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such much truth to it, it hurts =)
January 16th, 2010 at 7:25 am
Dam, just saw Serena on ESPN
Her tits are growing and she is getting sexier as she ages.
January 16th, 2010 at 7:26 am
plunketthead..
exla, has at least a small amount of humor in it, yours are just plain dumb and uneducated…
January 16th, 2010 at 7:27 am
plunketthead…
you DO know Serena Williams is a man, right?
January 16th, 2010 at 7:28 am
imagine the raiders in a 3-4 alignment with terrence cody at NT along with seymour and kelly as the ends, remmember kelly had his best season as an end in a 3-4 scheme and we all know what king richard can do. Then to have scott and merriman come off the edge with howard and morrison in the middle in coverage which is their strong point??? man… Our d would be solid. Signing okung and lupati would sure up the line allowing us to get rid of green and carlisle or atleast put them at back up where thy belng
January 16th, 2010 at 7:28 am
Exla
It is amazing how Americans step up when disaster hits We are almost always the first ones there across the world when needed.
January 16th, 2010 at 7:29 am
Speaking of dumb and educated
Al least mine are truthful
La Milicia Negra Says:
January 16th, 2010 at 7:27 am
plunketthead…
you DO know Serena Williams is a man, right?
January 16th, 2010 at 7:31 am
plunketthead,
yeah, you guys are SO amazing… I really think you should pad your backs and join eachother in a USA-USA-USA rant…
January 16th, 2010 at 7:32 am
El Tato was talking ’bout going 3-4 the other day.
I would play Scott as a OLB and tell him to line up anywhere,just freelance.
January 16th, 2010 at 7:32 am
Notice LMN did’t respond to what his neighbors are doing? We sent a pallet of water this morning. More to follow.
January 16th, 2010 at 7:33 am
# Plunketthead Says:
January 16th, 2010 at 7:29 am
Speaking of dumb and educated
Al least mine are truthful
La Milicia Negra Says:
January 16th, 2010 at 7:27 am
plunketthead…
you DO know Serena Williams is a man, right?
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LOL and mine are not? Serena IS a MAN… he was just too bad a tennis player so he opted for an operation so he could join the women… that you have the hots for him says a lot about you…
January 16th, 2010 at 7:33 am
No LMN, it would take to long for you to swim there to help!
January 16th, 2010 at 7:35 am
GOOD MORNING SPORT’S FAN’S. A GREAT WEEKEND 4 PLAYOFF FOOTBALL..NEILB,L M N ,EXLA,PLUNKETTHEAD.
January 16th, 2010 at 7:35 am
Can we all smoke a little peace pipe here ?
We’re all on the same side here.
We all know who the real enemy is…….
THE FRENCH !!!!!!
January 16th, 2010 at 7:36 am
We dont want or need hoorahs or pats on the back.
I have been ashamed at many things the feds do.
But we do tend to speak up when educated know it alls like youself start ragging on America.
January 16th, 2010 at 7:36 am
Morning Dirt-lot.
January 16th, 2010 at 7:39 am
Morning Dirt Lot.
Never thought I would root for the Jets and Ravens.
January 16th, 2010 at 7:40 am
# exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:
January 16th, 2010 at 7:17 am
I know in my area, we are collecting water, food, and supplies to be shipped in containers to Haiti. Is your citizens doing the same? I hope so. Also local Doctor’s are going to Haiti with medicines from local hospitals.
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sorry didnt see this post between all the bad jokes…
first you water is not very clean, its of course better than nothing…
second, if we shipped water it will be ruined before it got there…
yup, we send stuff, i dont know what and how much, really dont care…
but to be fair we havent annexed Haiti like some kind of Sudetenland like you have, so your bonds with the country is of course more strong than our, I believe France send a whole lot too… so its nice that its former occupants and its present occupants are there to help..
January 16th, 2010 at 7:40 am
Morning back at you Dirt and everyone else.
The fighting kiffins, errr the Tennesee fans were pissed about Kiff leaving. I bet there butts are really scorched now that they hired a coach with a
17-20 record at Lou Tech.
January 16th, 2010 at 7:42 am
I must admit though,I do find Serena a bit scary.
How ’bout Cheryl Cole ?
January 16th, 2010 at 7:43 am
I think we’re a 3-4 team… atleast we have the personell I believe. I think we were 3-4 that year we went top 3 in defense wit rob. If Okungs gone id like to see the raiders get derrick morgan and then pick cody and then maybe go ciron black and lupati. We need a kick returner too tho.
January 16th, 2010 at 7:44 am
I THINK EVERY GAME IS A TOSS-UP PRETTY MUCH,THE HOME TEAM’S WITH A LITTLE ADVANTAGE I GUESS..
January 16th, 2010 at 7:45 am
If we can get a NT I would try the 3-4.Don’t know if Marshall,or mor importantly Al,would agree though.
January 16th, 2010 at 7:46 am
neilb Says:
January 16th, 2010 at 7:42 am
I must admit though,I do find Serena a bit scary.
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rite on, any normal man would…
January 16th, 2010 at 7:47 am
Play-offs ? Now that the Pats have gone I hope the Jets can beat the crap outta the chargers.
January 16th, 2010 at 7:48 am
neilb…
It would be great if Al Davis went out and said what Rafa did the other day…
it would really suit the franchise… but hey, there isnt much you can call classy about this org, so why expect them to step up…
January 16th, 2010 at 7:50 am
i will go for a small smoke and a tiny beer =)
….btw just saw Stoke handle it to Rafa, well thats what happens when agger isnt in the defense…
January 16th, 2010 at 7:50 am
A 1 POINT WIN 4 THE JET’S WOULD MAKE ME HAPPY, BUT I HEAR U NEILB..
January 16th, 2010 at 7:53 am
LMN…
I didn’t want to mention Liverpool,not after being knocked out of the cup and all the injuries.Watched them today against Stoke……not good.
I feel sorry for Rafa…..he’s a dead man walking.
January 16th, 2010 at 7:55 am
Amen Dirt-lot.
January 16th, 2010 at 7:57 am
LMN:
Denmark, maintains a non-disclosed blacklist of hostnames which is used to censor DNS request by most internet service providers. In effect, trying to view certain web sites will instead result in a message that this site is blocked for the majority of Danish citizens. You ever get this message while trying to access JerryMac’s site? LOL
January 16th, 2010 at 7:57 am
nelib- Yea thats I say we should pick cody. If we go 3-4 cody’s important. He reminds me of teddy washington but more athletic and agile. He’s 6′5 300 plus runs almost a 4.7 and can dunk. He’s a mammoth of an athlete and will be working with seymour ellis and warren, and you’ve seen how these guys have rubbed off on the other young lineman in bryant shaugnessy and scott… so imagine what theyd show cody.
January 16th, 2010 at 7:59 am
neilb Says:
January 16th, 2010 at 7:35 am
Can we all smoke a little peace pipe here
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Way ahead of ya Neilb!….Plunk,you gotta ditch the dirt weed =)
January 16th, 2010 at 8:01 am
Let’s face it….the run D can’t be any worse.Find a system that suits the people you’ve got-not the people you had 30 years ago.
January 16th, 2010 at 8:01 am
Our water not clean? LMFAO, Denmark’s drinking and surface water is becoming polluted from animal wastes and pesticides. Hope your drinking water is purified.
Truce? That is how the French go into battle.
January 16th, 2010 at 8:04 am
Neil…
yeah cable is more alive than rafa… but still raiders suck more than liverpool..
Im really great choosing teams LO
January 16th, 2010 at 8:05 am
For Sale:French rifle,good condition,only dropped once.
January 16th, 2010 at 8:05 am
i think if a coach can sell al hard enough on the change and we are put in a position to get the players to do it he just may consider the move. He allowed it once before and marshall coached it in seattle and was successful with it with lesser players so… But then again that sounds too much like right for al davis so you’re right that’ll never happen.
January 16th, 2010 at 8:06 am
The trackrecord of the USA speaks for itself. Without question…the USA is the greatest force for good on the planet.
Does it make mistakes? Sure, all human beings make mistakes. But you take a summary of all the actions this country has taken over 200 years whether, its socially, militarily, diplomatically and economically..and it has generally worked out for the better.
AND CERTAINLY BETTER THAN ANY OTHER COMPETING ALTERNATIVE!
January 16th, 2010 at 8:06 am
Could be worse LMN…..my teams losing 4-0 at half time.
January 16th, 2010 at 8:07 am
neilb Says:
January 16th, 2010 at 8:05 am
For Sale:French rifle,good condition,only dropped once.
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Was it ever fired?
January 16th, 2010 at 8:08 am
LOL!!!
January 16th, 2010 at 8:09 am
exLA…
you really need to step up, most water in taps in the USA has chlorides added, we drink clean water, the kind you guys get in bottles…
as to the DSN, get a clue kiddo, you really dont know much about internet services do you? and what sites that are “banned” its kitty-p0rn sites and the pirate bay, thats all that are banned..
the pirate bay is banned due to pressure from the US, and if you are a bit internet savvy you have no problem joining TPB…
January 16th, 2010 at 8:10 am
exLA…
when american cruiseliners anchor up here, they get clean water, and they spoil it with chlorides because the passengers do not know how clean water tastes…
January 16th, 2010 at 8:11 am
CAN NOT TYPE WHILE LMAO NEILB, STOP ALREADY..
January 16th, 2010 at 8:12 am
# neilb Says:
January 16th, 2010 at 8:06 am
Could be worse LMN…..my teams losing 4-0 at half time.
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as good ole Ozzy said… Maaan it could be worse man, I could be sting =)
you guys still have vidic? i hope fergie steps up, get Agger from Liverpool and Kjær from Palermo, then you would have the best defense for 4-5 years instantly…
January 16th, 2010 at 8:14 am
USA-USA-USA, come on everybody, you are the best ever, pad you own backs
January 16th, 2010 at 8:14 am
LMN,
All in good fun! As the late Chick Hearn would say, “No Harm, No Foul!” Got to go for a little while. The bakery just put out some great Danish Pastries. You are good for something. lol
January 16th, 2010 at 8:14 am
LMN,
How many minority groups in your country achieve any level of prominence in business, society, government etc….
Minority groups being defined as anyone not of Danish origin or Christian?
We’ve had a Polish guy and a black guy run our military. Also had a guy of Asian background as chief of our Army.
Not to mention our current President’s background.
In the USA, J@ws and M@slim work and live together side by side….can’t even say that in their homelands…
We don’t have to take lecture from anyone…
January 16th, 2010 at 8:16 am
LMN….Sunderland not ManU !! Click on my name.
January 16th, 2010 at 8:16 am
La Milicia Negra Says:
January 16th, 2010 at 8:14 am
USA-USA-USA, come on everybody, you are the best ever, pad you own backs
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Nope, we just go on about our business and let the results speak for themselves
January 16th, 2010 at 8:16 am
Haiti has received billions of dollars in aid over the past decade or so. Doesn’t do any good.
If your going to give any money give it to the Red Cross. Otherwise it will just end up in the hands of the rebels, to buy more machine-guns.
Bring back Bruce!!!!
January 16th, 2010 at 8:16 am
Alright…no more political stuff…
On to Al davis
January 16th, 2010 at 8:17 am
Vegas Raider,
Agreed. I gave to the Red Cross…
January 16th, 2010 at 8:18 am
Vegas!!! What are the bookies saying ’bout the play-offs ?
January 16th, 2010 at 8:18 am
I AM OUT ALSO, A GREAT DAY 2 EVERYONE…
January 16th, 2010 at 8:22 am
Damn 5-1 now.
January 16th, 2010 at 8:22 am
Neilb,
Everyone likes all the dogs. Amazingly the homes teams record the last 4 years in this round is 7-9. Last year 1-3.
I hope the Saints win and cover, than you know you can hammer the dogs after that.
Who do you like?
January 16th, 2010 at 8:24 am
SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
January 16th, 2010 at 8:06 am
The trackrecord of the USA speaks for itself. Without question…the USA is the greatest force for good on the planet.
Does it make mistakes? Sure, all human beings make mistakes. But you take a summary of all the actions this country has taken over 200 years whether, its socially, militarily, diplomatically and economically..and it has generally worked out for the better.
AND CERTAINLY BETTER THAN ANY OTHER COMPETING ALTERNATIVE!
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i wouldn’t trot that arguement out to the:
American Indians… (all of them)…
Hawaiians…
Blacks…
Japanese who were around in the 40’s…
January 16th, 2010 at 8:25 am
nB offense defense specialteams Says:
January 16th, 2010 at 8:16 am
La Milicia Negra Says:
January 16th, 2010 at 8:14 am
USA-USA-USA, come on everybody, you are the best ever, pad you own backs
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Nope, we just go on about our business and let the results speak for themselves
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well thats the biggest lie EVER, just see how you all here today speak of how great you all are…
my point is you are great sometimes, funny enough its only when the democrats have the power…
“You can always count on Americans to do the right thing – after they’ve tried everything else.”
^^^^^^one of my favorites..
January 16th, 2010 at 8:25 am
Vegas…
As long as the Jets beat the chargers I’m not that bothered.
January 16th, 2010 at 8:25 am
Cable has been under contract and has a contract. Cable and Al Davis know what is going on and enjoy watching all the media twisting in the wind, classic Al Davis and I love it.
January 16th, 2010 at 8:26 am
Pete,
Do they count?
JUST KIDDING FOLKS….JUST KIDDING…
January 16th, 2010 at 8:27 am
OK, so sarcasm doesn’t work as well on the internet than in person.
I apologize
January 16th, 2010 at 8:30 am
NeilB,
I hate the Chargers, but I’m not buying into the Jets.
I think the Chargers will win by 2 TD’s+, and that is the game I am putting the second most money on (Cowboys first).
January 16th, 2010 at 8:30 am
Time for me to go….
Enjoy your Saturday my friends….
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8KzPirIQkPQ
have fun !!
January 16th, 2010 at 8:31 am
as you all can see… last’s night period of sobriety has now been completed for Norco Bob…
let the games begin…
January 16th, 2010 at 8:33 am
amidst all this speculation….Al has never said or indicated that he is considering a Coaching change and going to announce it sometime soon.
Ergo…..
There is no reason for a media announcement other than the media’s speculation that there should be one.
We have a Coach, under contract, and he is Tom Cable.
January 16th, 2010 at 8:33 am
# SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
January 16th, 2010 at 8:14 am
LMN,
How many minority groups in your country achieve any level of prominence in business, society, government etc….
Minority groups being defined as anyone not of Danish origin or Christian?
We’ve had a Polish guy and a black guy run our military. Also had a guy of Asian background as chief of our Army.
Not to mention our current President’s background.
In the USA, J@ws and M@slim work and live together side by side….can’t even say that in their homelands…
We don’t have to take lecture from anyone…
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on some parts i agree with you, on what your country is based on, the principles are very great, sadly you havent lived by them for decades..
as to how its going here, we dont have ghettos, and all has the equal opportunity to become what they want, no-one pays for an education, no-one pays for medical issues… if anything drags the minority behind it will always only be the social heritage, and values based on their home-countries…
that said, we dont have many minorities, j3ws has been a part of this country for 400 years, and catholics as well. mus1ims are a bit tougher to integrate due to their sudden numbers, but still no biggy as compared to the problems the poor have in the US…
and lastly, Jazz-musicians saw Denmark as a safe-haven when they wasnt even able to get on the bus in the USA, here they were treated like everyone else…
January 16th, 2010 at 8:36 am
I was actually not sober last night dude,..wasnt drinking, but well, a combo of Norco and Soma,..really good combo.
…but I ment everything I said last night.
January 16th, 2010 at 8:36 am
Actually on same combo now, but with a Starbucks.
January 16th, 2010 at 8:37 am
You can’t compare Denmark to the USA.
You want a fair comparision, compare Denmark to Connecticut.
January 16th, 2010 at 8:37 am
SnB offense defense specialteams…
and socially you are not very great, and economically, you times is over… but yeah, you still have a great military…
you need it, to NOT to get into another civil war…
January 16th, 2010 at 8:39 am
SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
January 16th, 2010 at 8:06 am
The trackrecord of the USA speaks for itself. Without question…the USA is the greatest force for good on the planet.
Does it make mistakes? Sure, all human beings make mistakes. But you take a summary of all the actions this country has taken over 200 years whether, its socially, militarily, diplomatically and economically..and it has generally worked out for the better.
AND CERTAINLY BETTER THAN ANY OTHER COMPETING ALTERNATIVE!
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Canadians might disagree with this statement…but we would never COMPETE for the title.
January 16th, 2010 at 8:41 am
I am rooting for Brett and Kurt in the NFC
And Rex and Caldwell in the AFC
Never been a big Brett fan, but the Packer/Viking thing makes it a big story
Kurt is a great QB and person. Would love to see him win another VL. Plus he is a underdog. Love underdogs.
Rex because he is one of those guys you love to root for. He fits in great in New York.
Caldwell because he stayed there under Dungy, worked hard and has done a great job. Good guys need to finish first now and then so the betas can get some.
January 16th, 2010 at 8:41 am
# vegas raider Says:
January 16th, 2010 at 8:37 am
You can’t compare Denmark to the USA.
You want a fair comparision, compare Denmark to Connecticut.
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im not, SnB offense defense specialteams and exLA are…
But funny when something illustrates somethings wrong with the US, the comparison is acceptable, but when it illustrates when something is OKAY, its, well okay…
double standards is a funny thing, huh =)
January 16th, 2010 at 8:42 am
Jets running attack and opportunistic defense will win it,imo….
January 16th, 2010 at 8:43 am
Cardinals-Jets Super-Bowl
January 16th, 2010 at 8:44 am
That hillbilly herion will make you forget how many somas you took. People have been to known to “relax” so much there heart goes to sleep.
January 16th, 2010 at 8:44 am
Charger-Cowboy Superbowl…..yawn.
January 16th, 2010 at 8:46 am
The feeling around the Raiders is that coach Tom Cable will learn his fate by Tuesday, and there is little hope for him to return.
Cable met with Al Davis on Thursday after Davis finally decided to stroll into the office and meet with his coach. The two were expected to continue to talk on Friday, but that didn’t happen, so take this for what it’s worth since Davis has a tough time deciding what he wants to do. Cable will have to take the sit-and-wait approach regarding his 2010 job status.
Source: Adam Schefter on Twitter
January 16th, 2010 at 8:46 am
Nota bad way to go.
January 16th, 2010 at 8:50 am
Jim Fassel?… Pftttttttt… His last season with the Giants he was 4 & 12….. Until Al Davis changes the way he runs the Raiders Changing coaches now would be like putting clean socks on dirty feet…..keep Cable another year.. Let’s see what happens..
January 16th, 2010 at 8:51 am
Little Adam seems convinced via Twitter that Cable will be fired, Im not, Im 99.9999999% hes staying….but of course Russell will also stay, so if another 4-12 year will be too upsetting for you, I suggest you take 2010 off.
January 16th, 2010 at 8:52 am
Nota bad way to go.
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If I cant go out in a blaze of glory fighting Raider haters and euros, hillbilly heroin is acceptable.
January 16th, 2010 at 8:58 am
Random Drug Tester,
Canada, like Europe, gets a nice indirect subsidy from the USA. Those countries don’t have to invest in defense because they know that there is a backup plan to bail out…..honestly, what does the world look like if it has an impotent military, economy and world standing. Seriously?
As for health care, the USA again subsidizes the world through pricing. We pay more for the same drugs, which allows the pharma companies to invest in R&D and innovation….
As for poverty…a vexing problem for a country of 300 million that continuously takes in the worlds poor leagally and illegally….the drug problem in the USA also contributes a great deal to this because of our close proximity to the drug production centers of the world….however, the blueprint here is fairly straightforward…
1. put in an honest effort to go to school (free by the way),
2. try your honest best and stay out of trouble,
3. and don’t have children before you are ready….
Again, we have problems, but we tend to set the pace…not follow the pace. Our economy is in transition, our banks in the ditch, yet we still spend billions on overseas activities…
What would Russia or China had done if someone had rammed an airplane into their population centers…and they knew who did it…my guess is their troops wouldn’t be handing out supplies and their bureacrats trying to nation build….
January 16th, 2010 at 8:58 am
Good Morning Raider Nation!!
January 16th, 2010 at 9:01 am
They call Norco HH?…or Soma?…its really not any cheaper,..and well with real heroin you take a risk of the safety of it,…used to use that crap back in 80`s, we all feared would be our last shot, a hot shot, people back then always worried what the dealers were selling us,..at least with gov controlled pills it is somewhat safe,..not alot more but some.
January 16th, 2010 at 9:03 am
If you get caught with a couple hundred bucks worht of heroin in your car during routine traffic stop, could be prison,…if you have a tylenol bottle of pills in center console, the cops wouldnt even notice,…so theres that advantage also.
January 16th, 2010 at 9:08 am
I’m happy with my beer!
January 16th, 2010 at 9:08 am
I can’t stand the itchy-finger sensation when taking pills.
Booze and a bong, all I need.
January 16th, 2010 at 9:10 am
I smoke pot daily, but it legally in Oaklandand Sacramento with my medical card,..ya I of course love beer too, who doesnt?…:)
January 16th, 2010 at 9:10 am
SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
January 16th, 2010 at 8:58 am
Canada, like Europe, gets a nice indirect subsidy from the USA. Those countries don’t have to invest in defense because they know that there is a backup plan to bail out…..honestly, what does the world look like if it has an impotent military, economy and world standing. Seriously?
As for health care, the USA again subsidizes the world through pricing. We pay more for the same drugs, which allows the pharma companies to invest in R&D and innovation….
As for poverty…a vexing problem for a country of 300 million that continuously takes in the worlds poor leagally and illegally….the drug problem in the USA also contributes a great deal to this because of our close proximity to the drug production centers of the world…
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just the biggest load of bull… you clearly dont know anything what happens outside your boarders…
January 16th, 2010 at 9:10 am
buy it legally
January 16th, 2010 at 9:10 am
Well crap, got to work on a Sat and miss most of the first game.
This is bullcrap!!!!!!
Come next week, Al will start conducting interviews, while Cable is still employed. Wouldn’t be suprised if Fassell is the first person to come in. Maybe Cable can conduct the interview of the guy taking his job. AHHHH….the Raider way.
Later folks!!!
January 16th, 2010 at 9:11 am
YEP…..BOOZE and a BONG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Thats the way I fly =)
January 16th, 2010 at 9:11 am
La Mary, you still in Europe?…good,..soccer still sucks,…nice little activity for little girls and their moms to do though on saturday mornings I guess.
January 16th, 2010 at 9:13 am
Norco…
well spoken, when we know you are a drug addict…
January 16th, 2010 at 9:14 am
SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
January 16th, 2010 at 8:58 am
Random Drug Tester,
Canada, like Europe, gets a nice indirect subsidy from the USA. Those countries don’t have to invest in defense because they know that there is a backup plan to bail out…..honestly, what does the world look like if it has an impotent military, economy and world standing. Seriously?
-If it wasn’t for lawyers, we wouldn’t need lawyers.
As for health care, the USA again subsidizes the world through pricing. We pay more for the same drugs, which allows the pharma companies to invest in R&D and innovation….
-thanks for un-affordable health-care
As for poverty…a vexing problem for a country of 300 million that continuously takes in the worlds poor leagally and illegally….the drug problem in the USA also contributes a great deal to this because of our close proximity to the drug production centers of the world….however, the blueprint here is fairly straightforward…
-yeah, Afghanistan is real close.
1. put in an honest effort to go to school (free by the way),
2. try your honest best and stay out of trouble,
3. and don’t have children before you are ready….
-Oh, was unaware you cornered the market on this behaviour.
Again, we have problems, but we tend to set the pace…not follow the pace. Our economy is in transition, our banks in the ditch, yet we still spend billions on overseas activities…
-only because you want to make billions on same.
What would Russia or China had done if someone had rammed an airplane into their population centers…and they knew who did it…my guess is their troops wouldn’t be handing out supplies and their bureacrats trying to nation build….
-Nobody wants to do that to us, and has no reason to.
* Name a war/conflict that wasn’t about securing oil-access where the US ever beat Canada into the action.
January 16th, 2010 at 9:15 am
Painkillers combined with Soma produce the high that = Hillbilly Heroin
January 16th, 2010 at 9:15 am
apologies for the Richochet-esque post.
January 16th, 2010 at 9:16 am
Have a good one Vegas!
January 16th, 2010 at 9:23 am
I hope we decide on an Offensive Coordinator fast. Even if Al fires Cable he still will keep the staff he wants. I want a good O-Coordinator.
January 16th, 2010 at 9:24 am
we haven’t had one for a long time
January 16th, 2010 at 9:25 am
SNB
I agree with all your points, yet disagree with all your points.
It is just a matter of what is your point-of-view and/or value system.
Unfortunately, most Americans tend to think they are right and everybody else is wrong…somewhat similar to the Spanish Inquisition.
January 16th, 2010 at 9:28 am
Most Americans haven’t been outside their boarders. And it’s true for the most part we’re ignorant and have a fixed opinion about the “rest of the world” that I don’t know what source of information it’s based on, but is way off base.
January 16th, 2010 at 9:29 am
But most Europeans think every American is like Homer Simpson. Don’t know….I think the Europeans have it closer to the truth.
January 16th, 2010 at 9:34 am
We Canadians think every American is like the “Dukes of Hazzard”…or wants to be…lol.
January 16th, 2010 at 9:34 am
RDT
I am not about to say we are a flowing fountain of peace and good will and I think Americans are like most people everywhere else in the world.
We are lead by an elite group of Ivy League lawyers who dont always do what the public wants.
Between social engineering and mans greed, none of us stand a chance and that includes Europeans.
January 16th, 2010 at 9:37 am
in the end, it’s all about the basic principle of Economics…
“Man strives to maximize his own satisfaction.”
January 16th, 2010 at 9:42 am
There is ABSOLUTLY NOTHING WRONG WITH DAISEY DUKE =)
January 16th, 2010 at 9:43 am
I have never heard that put as the basic of economics.
However it makes sense and lays the foundation for why the study of economics is not cut and dried like Math.
Good one.
January 16th, 2010 at 9:45 am
Amen 4eva…
January 16th, 2010 at 9:46 am
not to you or I 4evaRaider…but I think RealMaddenRaider probably thinks…
“there is ABSOLUTELY NOTHING WRONG WITH BO DUKE”
January 16th, 2010 at 9:51 am
there is also the other theory of Economics (or Psychology) which is…
“Everybody does everything in order to get laid”
January 16th, 2010 at 9:53 am
Hmmmm…..RDT…..then what are you doing on a Raiders Blog site….
January 16th, 2010 at 9:54 am
lol
January 16th, 2010 at 9:55 am
just waking up from a sex-filled Friday night…Yeah!!!
January 16th, 2010 at 9:56 am
worked all day….drank and spent all night….got laid.
Economics at work and at its finest…just doing my part.
January 16th, 2010 at 9:59 am
doesn’t even matter right now that Tom Cable is still the Coach or that we are going to blow the 8th pick over-all.
January 16th, 2010 at 10:02 am
fingers Says:
January 16th, 2010 at 8:50 am
Jim Fassel?… Pftttttttt… His last season with the Giants he was 4 & 12….. Until Al Davis changes the way he runs the Raiders Changing coaches now would be like putting clean socks on dirty feet…..keep Cable another year.. Let’s see what happens..
^^^^^^^
Exactly unless the old man hired Gruden, Harbaugh or maybe Garrett or Cowher….coaches who will change the culture of losing…..then there is no point in firing Cable.
If he stays he needs to hire a LEGIT OC and play caller without a doubt. Probably fire the RB’s coach and WR coach though.
January 16th, 2010 at 10:04 am
any change other than wholesale change is just window-dressing at this point…imho.
January 16th, 2010 at 10:05 am
Well, you can make the window look real pretty if you do enough dressing…
January 16th, 2010 at 10:08 am
it’s only looking pretty to less than 30k people at the moment.
January 16th, 2010 at 10:10 am
SnB,
I really like you bro, but you are way off in your political views. Keep talking about football, and leave politics to the big boys. lol
January 16th, 2010 at 10:11 am
Jesus….Al Davis SUCKS and so do the cronies who work under him.
It amazes me how much all of them are content with losing!
What a freakin joke!
January 16th, 2010 at 10:24 am
“I used to be disgusted…now I try to be amused….”
The real Elvis.
January 16th, 2010 at 10:26 am
Criteria for being considered/retained as HC for Raiders:
1. puppet
2. avowed company puppet
3. avowed dumber than cotton company puppet
Cable made some of the dumbest decisions in the NFL this year..BUT..he’s a great puppet.
Which is all that matters to Al.
January 16th, 2010 at 10:28 am
# 4evaRaider Says:
January 16th, 2010 at 9:42 am
There is ABSOLUTLY NOTHING WRONG WITH DAISEY DUKE =)
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First thing you’ve ever said I agree with…your spelling of absolutely and Daisy not withstanding.
January 16th, 2010 at 10:30 am
# Random Drug Tester Says:
January 16th, 2010 at 9:55 am
just waking up from a sex-filled Friday night…Yeah!!!
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You be sure and thank your left hand…unless, of course, you decided to go commando and take out the rival.
January 16th, 2010 at 10:32 am
sounds like someone DIDN’T get laid last night.
January 16th, 2010 at 10:36 am
If you will remember correctly Richochet,I also stated Philippine women are fine =)
January 16th, 2010 at 10:37 am
# Norco Bob Says:
January 16th, 2010 at 9:10 am
I smoke pot daily, but it legally in Oaklandand Sacramento with my medical card,..ya I of course love beer too, who doesnt?…:)
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Of course you’re a burner.
Everything about your silly whining little ‘look at me..someone reply to me.., haha, you replied, oh look at me giggle like a little girl’ comments screams burner.
Still laughing at you proudly believing being an illiterate drunk is an accomplishment.
In that case, reach for the stars, Doofus.
January 16th, 2010 at 10:40 am
Adam Schefter reports on his Twitter page:
“Feeling inside Raiders building is that Tom Cable is likely to learn his fate by Tuesday, and there’s little optimism that he will return.”
January 16th, 2010 at 10:44 am
Daisy is drop dead gorgeous.
http://www.zimbio.com/pictures/edogEdU-BRM/Children+Defense+Fund+17th+Annual+Beat+Odds/yu5CZ1Na69Y/Catherine+Bach
January 16th, 2010 at 10:45 am
# 4evaRaider Says:
January 16th, 2010 at 10:36 am
If you will remember correctly Richochet,I also stated Philippine women are fine =)
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Hey..you’re right.
Love a Maganda filipina.
That’s two.
Wow..on a roll.
January 16th, 2010 at 10:46 am
The New O Mock draft:
1- OT Bruce Campbell
2- DE Carlos Dunlap (move Seymour inside)
3- ILB Micah Johnson
3- CB Syd Thompson, P Stoudamire, Or Leroy Vann
4- OG Asamoah, Render,Hudson, J Jerry, Petrus, or Lauvao.
January 16th, 2010 at 10:48 am
=)
January 16th, 2010 at 10:51 am
LMAO @ Rich.
January 16th, 2010 at 10:52 am
http://thewambank.com/uploaded/celebrities/thumbnails/48/80960_CatherineBach_150.jpg
Big nips
January 16th, 2010 at 10:53 am
http://www.rankopedia.com/CandidatePix/17266.gif
Real boobies
January 16th, 2010 at 10:56 am
# Random Drug Tester Says:
January 16th, 2010 at 10:32 am
sounds like someone DIDN’T get laid last night.
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Dude..no one..as in NO ONE who’s not a silly juvenile, feels the need to state ‘Oh goody, I got laid’.
One of the three is imminent.
You’re a silly kid.
You didn’t get laid, but feel saying you did makes you feel grown up, or needed.
You got laid for the 2nd time in your life, and can’t wait for Tuesday to come to tell your buddies at school.
My guess is the second one. Don’t worry, I won’t tell anyone.
January 16th, 2010 at 10:56 am
http://www.rankopedia.com/ZID=3/325/Hottest-TV-Actress/Step1/2332.htm
She evan makes the hottest star list.
January 16th, 2010 at 11:01 am
Want to thank Daisy from the bottom of my heart for officially introducing the world to tattered hot pants.
I don’t think any item of worn clothing has caused more accidents than hotties strolling down the street wearing their Daisy Dukes..nor has anything caused more cases of whiplash.
My neck still hurts.
January 16th, 2010 at 11:03 am
Holy crappola, Plunk…looks like that rankopedia site is going to be fun to ‘explore’.
thanks
January 16th, 2010 at 11:04 am
I was fine.I was worried for my wife.They ended up having to send 2 or 3 cop cars out to the house because they had posted her cell-phone #,her home phone # and her address.It got really ugly.
Lane Kiffin Tuesday night in Knoxville. LOL
January 16th, 2010 at 11:04 am
I once spent a summer in Plant City eating strawberries & hot pants.
January 16th, 2010 at 11:04 am
Richochet…i couldn’t give a “laid” what you think
January 16th, 2010 at 11:05 am
Yep God Bless Catherine Bach!!!!
January 16th, 2010 at 11:05 am
you are much like your own posts…out of context
January 16th, 2010 at 11:08 am
http://www.rankopedia.com/ZoneID=3/9826/Most-Famous-High-School-Dropout/Step1/11155.htm
Heres a good one
January 16th, 2010 at 11:08 am
Dont get me wrong because she can eat all the crackers in my bed she wants but…. Catherine need’s 2 work out with Linda Hamilton =)
January 16th, 2010 at 11:08 am
Don’t you just love Schefter?
The guy has made a living of stating the obvious, and makes it sound like he has an in, when his source is his mailman.
“sources inside the Raider organization think something will happen by Tuesday’??
Wow Adam.
Hmm..let’s see.
This week oodles of activity, taking Al from the limelight.
Weekend playoffs.
Monday holiday.
Yep…Tuesday sounds about right.
Way to nail it, Adam
January 16th, 2010 at 11:09 am
California guv Schwarzenegger is a high school dropout
January 16th, 2010 at 11:10 am
Hey no kidding Plunk….Thankx 4 the GREAT Link!
January 16th, 2010 at 11:11 am
any famous Public School drop-outs?
January 16th, 2010 at 11:11 am
# 299 Amen to that!
January 16th, 2010 at 11:13 am
I just stumbles on the site while googling daisy and guess what?
You can create your ranking.
Should our first one be whom is the most annoying poster in Jerrys chatroom?
January 16th, 2010 at 11:15 am
# Random Drug Tester Says:
January 16th, 2010 at 11:05 am
you are much like your own posts…out of context
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Don’t try and explain that comment.
You’re just going to hurt yourself.
January 16th, 2010 at 11:15 am
I still say Cable hits the door (if he hits the door) on the Tuesday before the SB.
January 16th, 2010 at 11:20 am
http://www.rankopedia.com/ZID=3/76/Ranking-Best-Super-Bowl-champion-ever/Step1/26.htm
The site sucks.
Raiders do not make the top twentyfive
January 16th, 2010 at 11:22 am
http://www.rankopedia.com/ZID=3/86/Ranking-Coolest-NFL-Team-Name/Step1/4359.htm
Raiders are #1
January 16th, 2010 at 11:24 am
You very well might be right, Plunk.
Al seemingly loves two things..the limelight, and lately seems to love the pondering by the pundits when he’ll do something.
If EVERYONE says “happens on Wednesday” bet the house it won’t.
For fun, go type in “Al Davis will fire Cable on” in the Google search bar.
My “sources” say Al has that in a Google Alert, and every morning he gets an email showing every source that put that in print.
Take that Scheftler…my gardener trumps your mailman any day.
January 16th, 2010 at 11:32 am
LMAO..you post that link, Plunk..and now we’re all off searching “hottest”.
Lots to view
January 16th, 2010 at 11:36 am
280.Raider O Says:
January 16th, 2010 at 10:10 am
SnB,
I really like you bro, but you are way off in your political views. Keep talking about football, and leave politics to the big boys. lol
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Hey, I love Raider football and in lock with your views on how to improve the team.
As for politics…the critiques of the USA are not grounded in realism. The USA has made mistakes..2nd Iraak, Vietnaaam…but made some good decisions like WWII, Balkans, and 1st Gulf War….
On top of this, I would still like to hear what country/system has it right. Not those homogenous Euro nations with the population of a large US city…or Netherlands, France and Britain that are about to be ripped apart with ethnic strife.
Based on actual results not hypotheticals…
Immigration: compare how the USA does it vs. Europe…LOL
Religion: No coutry in the world comes close to allowing a total freedom to practice what one will…in France they won’t let the Muslim girls wear the headscarf…in Saudi Arabia its illegal to worship anything other than Islam…
Diversity: Come talk to me when I see an Arabic guy running in prominence in Isreel…or an Indian Prime Minister in Denmark…how about a Korean guy in Japan….no one comes close…yet Louisiana elected an Indian conservative named Jindahl as Governor
Education: No country has as many secondary education institutions per capita than the USA…and access to them are fairly open (especially at community college and lower level state college levels)–How many foreign students attend Chinese schools?
January 16th, 2010 at 11:40 am
People take for granted the good things the USA has done of late. I am for honest criticism..but rhetoric about AMericans trying to steal resources is lukewarm.
Go see French and Belgian business practices in Africa
How about the Chinese exploits around the world.
No one covers that stuff because no one cares. its easy to beat up the US because of a really bad administration that was recently removed.
No one will sit back and take an honest assessment of what the world would be like today if the USA tended to its own knitting the last 30 to 50 years….or if the USA were to pull back tomorrow.
Get real
Now I am done
January 16th, 2010 at 12:06 pm
Tuesday could be key date for Cable
Posted by Gregg Rosenthal on January 16, 2010 1:56 PM ET
Tom Cable may not have to twist in the wind much longer.
ESPN’s Adam Schefter points out that the NFL calendar may give us an answer to Al Davis’ intentions. Teams must inform their assistant coaches whether they will be retained by the third Tuesday after the end of the regular season.
Davis is expected to make numerous changes to his assistant coaches Tuesday. Cable is expected to learn his fate by then, as well.
One bad sign for Cable: Schefter says Davis has already started to contact potential head coaching replacements. We already know one guy who is interested.
January 16th, 2010 at 12:14 pm
Rob Ryan, please dont.
January 16th, 2010 at 12:35 pm
SNB, good post on #320 bro. I agree with you.
The only issues I have is all these wingnuts running around and never admitting that the USA has never done anything bad. We’ve done both bad and good stuff. More good than any other country I can think of in the last 60 years.
January 16th, 2010 at 12:38 pm
CHARGERDOWN JUST TEXTED ME
He asked his soulmate to marry him and Candy Beaver said yes. He didnt have money for a wedding ring so hocked the bands equipment and bet it all on the Discharge.
What does three hundred & thirty two dollars pay on the money line?
January 16th, 2010 at 12:41 pm
Read an article yesterday. A “no shyte Sherlock!” article.
It read that soldiers who may suffer from Post Traumatic Stress Disorder feel better and less stressed when they are given morphine.
Good thing there was money in the Defense Department budget for that study of Sister Morphine and her wily ways.
Al Standard Time: I have three clocks here. One is set to Polynesian Time, One is set to Mountain Standard Time and one has stopped (Al Standard). I also have two calendars, one from 2002 and one from a year ago. I figure if I wait long enough the 2002 calendar will be relevant again as per the days of the week.
January 16th, 2010 at 1:26 pm
raider o… Bruce campbell sucks and so does your mockdraft… So glad you’re not gm.lol
January 16th, 2010 at 1:46 pm
My Picks for this weekend:
Arizona
Indy
Dallas
Jets (mostly because I can’t stand the Chargers)
January 16th, 2010 at 1:49 pm
Arizona wins the track meet and the Card’s D is better than the Saints ‘D’
Indy, because its just too hard to bet against a Manning
Dallas, because the Vikes O-line just isn’t getting the job done, and I don’t believe an Ancient Farve can put the team on his creaking shoulders and win.
The Jets, because they’ve got a great D, Revis is the real deal, and if they can run the ball and chew the clock they win a close one.
January 16th, 2010 at 1:53 pm
Total in this game was 57.
You know some brave soul tried to outthink it and took the under.
January 16th, 2010 at 1:56 pm
I think all the home teams win but the Vikings.
Will they all cover a TD, I don’t know?
January 16th, 2010 at 2:01 pm
I think I might be the only one on the Jets, They man handled Cincy last week, but is that telling? I’ll agree Cincy wasn’t as good as their record, but I just don’t think the Chargers have it this year. I think Revis will shut down Jackson, Gates will get jammed on the line, and Rivers has a rough day, and gets knocked around alot, and everyone knows Tomlinson is done.
The wildcard for SD is Sproules.
But the Jets have an incredible O-line, and the SD D-line is aging. Merriman isn’t the same player without the roids.
The Jets should be able to run the ball all day, and a then get a few big plays from Sanchez on the PA.
Essentially the Jets will do everything the Raiders hope to do next year.
January 16th, 2010 at 2:08 pm
Yeah, the Chargers suck. They havent won a game in a month and are totally backing into the playoffs.
January 16th, 2010 at 2:13 pm
Everybody’s on the Jets. The line moved from 9 to 7.5
They shouldn’t have made the playoffs in the first place. They lost in week 15 at home to the Falcons, than Peyton was doing his thing on them in the first half at home in week 16. He had like 180 yards at halftime and they were cruising.
Than the Jets played 6 quarters of football against teams that had quit, nothing to play for and were playing some backups and resting starters.
The Bengals choked last week, and well, are the Bengals. They haven’t won a playoff game in almost 20 years. 3 missed FG’s, sounds like them.
Jets are fraud, IMO, and I think the Chargers will paste them. Than the Dolts will choke next week and everyone will be happy.
January 16th, 2010 at 2:13 pm
incredible run by bush
January 16th, 2010 at 2:16 pm
el tato, congrats beating up real… =)
January 16th, 2010 at 2:21 pm
We may see Leinart in the second half.
Warner looks shook
January 16th, 2010 at 2:23 pm
How about hiring the Offensive Coordinator for the Saints as our Head Coach? Funny, I don’t even know his name without looking it up, but he pulled off all kinds of records this year.
January 16th, 2010 at 2:26 pm
you mean leinert?
January 16th, 2010 at 2:28 pm
Hey Maverick, check this out from yesterday.
# Raider75 Says:
January 15th, 2010 at 5:19 pm
# MaineRaida Says:
January 15th, 2010 at 5:11 pm
nothing new on ESPN as of now…you know Al is relishing all the coverage
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I saw Shefter this morning. He said… “While no one knows for sure what Al Davis will do, the consensus around the league is that sweeping changes are coming. Not only will Cable be fired, but a handful of assistant coaches as well.”
Al should be reaching out to Pete Carmichael, Jr.
Offensive Coordinator for the New Orleans Saints
Here is a link
http://www.neworleanssaints.com/Team/Staff/People/Pete%20Carmichael%20Jr.aspx
January 16th, 2010 at 2:31 pm
No the other leinart
January 16th, 2010 at 2:38 pm
dont know who that is, but i know about leinert…
January 16th, 2010 at 2:44 pm
SnB,
You make some good points, but here are a few corrections:
1- You can practice whatever religion you want in Saudi, but not in public!
2- Immigration laws for Europe are better than the US Now, but the US had great immigration laws till the late 70s.
3- we do use a lot of resources from the world. 40-50% of total world resources are used by Americans.
January 16th, 2010 at 2:47 pm
Raider O!
long time no posts…
January 16th, 2010 at 2:47 pm
TCPH,
1- McClain
2- Dunlap
3- Sam young or Calloway
3- Mike Neal
4- Syd Thompson
Is that better?
January 16th, 2010 at 2:50 pm
And there it is
January 16th, 2010 at 2:51 pm
Nice career Warner. It was a pleasure watching you.
January 16th, 2010 at 2:51 pm
LMN,
School is a lot of work. Especially when you have a family.
3 more Sems, 1 summer, and I will be done. Next sen starts on 1/20.
How is the new girlfriend? Last time we chatted you were taking a trip. How was it?
January 16th, 2010 at 2:52 pm
What a cheap shot Warner took. No penalty. Where are the refs when you need them? They called a hand swipe to the head earlier and no penalty for the head first block after the INT.
January 16th, 2010 at 2:52 pm
LMN,
I think it was Spain. Lucky bastard!! lol
January 16th, 2010 at 2:54 pm
Raider O…
yup, it was great, we have been to sweden for a small trip, and we will repeat that success for a trip to Amsterdam and London..
January 16th, 2010 at 2:59 pm
Amsterdam!! Please take me with you. I can be your smoke monkey. I’ll try everything and let you know what’s good.
January 16th, 2010 at 3:01 pm
Are you guys watching the Saints and Cards? The Raiders are no where near anything like either team. Scrap it all and start over,….
Stuff like this just reminds me how far we have to go, and I’m sorry there is improvement with Cable, but he’s not anything where we need to be.
January 16th, 2010 at 3:03 pm
hmm this game is a bit boring…
last few years the play offs have been boring, sad development…
January 16th, 2010 at 3:03 pm
laws… laws… laws… does not equal freedom…
and we are a nation of laws… a lot of them…
and we love to lock people up… a lot of them…
the US has 5% of the world’s total population…
but we have 20% of all the incarcerated people in the world…
we’re not as free as you think…
January 16th, 2010 at 3:06 pm
LMN,
It’s harder to make money in Europe ( create wealth from scratch), but who needs it when you can travel, eat well, have free healthcare and education, and people are more relaxed.
Also, it’s easy to get a visa to come to the US or Canada to start your wealth.
January 16th, 2010 at 3:06 pm
buck…
what really pisses me off, is, knowing that if we traded up instead of drafting Stuey, then we would have Darnell Dockett…
that said 2009s draft, darell scott looks a lot like him…
January 16th, 2010 at 3:07 pm
LMN,
It’s Leinart with an A. And how did you like that prediction?
January 16th, 2010 at 3:12 pm
I guess Al is maybe waiting to get a feeler into some other candidates before firing Cable. Or, they’re just looking for an Offensive Coordinator and have someone in mind that’s a QB coach or something….and that’s what the meeting is about…..god, who knows.
January 16th, 2010 at 3:13 pm
Raider O…
exactly! we are happy and free, I pay my tax gladly, I know I get some of it back and heck the rest is for a good cause…
you pay peanuts in taxes, yet you whine about promille rise…
its due to a me first nation and it is based in envy…
but you are #1 hands down when it comes to entertainment, and we appreciate it =) the jester of our time LOL, nah that wasnt fair LOL
January 16th, 2010 at 3:15 pm
With Al, you have to expect the unexpected.
The chance of Al swiftly firing Cable, and hiring a good name and allowing him to choose most of his staff is HIGHLY unlikely. Probably impossible.
Cable will continue to twist, there will be guys in for interviews, for what position who knows, and ultimately, nothing may happen.
January 16th, 2010 at 3:16 pm
# vegas raider Says:
January 16th, 2010 at 3:07 pm
LMN,
It’s Leinart with an A. And how did you like that prediction?
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I liked that prediction a lot! as of LeinArt… well of course it is, but im sure his ancestors’ name was LeinErt… I blame Ellis Island and the fools stationed there..
January 16th, 2010 at 3:18 pm
Swiss vote to ban new mosque minarets
Last Updated: Monday, November 30, 2009 | 12:27 PM ET Comments1123Recommend318CBC News
Voters in Switzerland have approved a proposal to ban the construction of minarets on mosques, according to results of a referendum held Sunday
Read the rest here on a Canadian website right here.
http://www.cbc.ca/world/story/2009/11/29/swiss-minarets.html
January 16th, 2010 at 3:18 pm
yea thats better o.
January 16th, 2010 at 3:18 pm
LMN,
You are right. We are a me Nation, but we are also very young. You had a lot of time to develop, abd learn from your mistakes. We are still learning.
As for taxes, we whine because the distribution of taxes in the US ( and other wealth) is a JOKE!!!! More Prisons than schools in Cali!!!
January 16th, 2010 at 3:19 pm
# La Milicia Negra Says:
January 16th, 2010 at 2:16 pm
el tato, congrats beating up real… =)
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Thanks man, it was crazy here today. Its a special game here, you can say its the game of the year and we win this time.
January 16th, 2010 at 3:20 pm
Schools = universities*
January 16th, 2010 at 3:23 pm
TCPH,
That was my original Mock draft. I will have a lot more in the next few months. lol
January 16th, 2010 at 3:26 pm
raider o
tru dat
January 16th, 2010 at 3:26 pm
Raider O Says:
January 16th, 2010 at 2:44 pm
SnB,
You make some good points, but here are a few corrections:
1- You can practice whatever religion you want in Saudi, but not in public!
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International Religious Freedom Report 200
Bureau of Democracy, Human Rights, and Labor
The country is ruled by a monarchy with a legal system based on Islamic law (Shari’a). The Government does not provide legal protection for freedom of religion, and such protection does not exist in practice. Islam is the official religion, and the law requires that all citizens be Muslims. The Government prohibits the public practice of non-Muslim religions. The Government recognizes the right of non-Muslims to worship in private; however, it does not always respect this right in practice and does not define this right in law.
http://www.state.gov/g/drl/rls/irf/2004/35507.htm
January 16th, 2010 at 3:27 pm
el tato
i couldnt see but when i saw th score i was tipping my hat toward you =)
January 16th, 2010 at 3:27 pm
# Raider O Says:
January 16th, 2010 at 3:18 pm
LMN,
You are right. We are a me Nation, but we are also very young. You had a lot of time to develop, abd learn from your mistakes. We are still learning.
As for taxes, we whine because the distribution of taxes in the US ( and other wealth) is a JOKE!!!! More Prisons than schools in Cali!!!
……….
Hey pot-head, here’s a clue. Don’t break the law and you don’t have to worry about the number of jails.
Here’s another one. The wealth is “distributed” to those who work. If you work, you can make money. You can also be anything you want here. Rags to riches.
As Don King says… “only in America”
PS – Europe has jails too. They don’t get a college education or tv in theirs though.
January 16th, 2010 at 3:28 pm
oh we have jails?
January 16th, 2010 at 3:29 pm
Don King loves George Bush
January 16th, 2010 at 3:30 pm
Yes I also heard that Mr Davis likes that OC in New Orleans, however Sean Peyton will for sure advise him on waiting for better opportunity.
January 16th, 2010 at 3:31 pm
# Raider75 Says:
January 16th, 2010 at 3:27 pm
Europe has jails too. They don’t get a college education or tv in theirs though.
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where do you have you info from? thought i enough you dont know jack…
January 16th, 2010 at 3:32 pm
SnB,
I lived there for 6 years. I met J3ws, Chirstians, and Hindu who love living and working there.
They do have the right to practice what ever religion they want, and no one can inforce Islam on them, but it’s a Muslim country with Sharia as it’s laws, and people know that before they go there.
January 16th, 2010 at 3:35 pm
# La Milicia Negra Says:
January 16th, 2010 at 3:31 pm
# Raider75 Says:
January 16th, 2010 at 3:27 pm
Europe has jails too. They don’t get a college education or tv in theirs though.
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where do you have you info from? thought i enough you dont know jack…
……
If it weren’t for the US, you would all be speaking German or Russian.
I get tired of your smug anti-US bs. Bow down wuss.
January 16th, 2010 at 3:37 pm
many yall fans so stupid. why dont raider fans ever come up with original ideas, their are plenty qbs that are attainable. like maybe colt brennan. how bout billy volek ? why not try 2 hire bruce davis as head coach. dats a strong personality . hed cuss al davis out . and u guys want john gruden ?
i still havent 4 given him 4 bein a traitor .. celebrating as we were fallin in the superbowl . . we can realy get anquan boulidin this next season . cardinals should be done wit em . now mcnabb and bouldin? dat does sound intriguing . mike martz leadin the offense too
January 16th, 2010 at 3:39 pm
Raider O Says:
January 16th, 2010 at 3:32 pm
SnB,
I lived there for 6 years. I met J3ws, Chirstians, and Hindu who love living and working there.
They do have the right to practice what ever religion they want, and no one can inforce Islam on them, but it’s a Muslim country with Sharia as it’s laws, and people know that before they go there.
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Sure they do. But what I am saying is that when it comes to comparing US vs other countries…there’s the rhetoric…and then there’s the reality.
In the USA one can practice any religion freely….in many other countries including Switzerland and Saudi Arabia…restrictions are imposed
January 16th, 2010 at 3:40 pm
watchin games like this makes me laugh at us . if the raiders score 17 points in a game we feel like our offense was movin . how pathetic is that ? and all u guys wanna do is draft defense ? our defense is better than even we know . if they didnt have 2 stay on the field 70 % of the game ,
. but chris johnson sukked dis year . guys get big money then bang whores , smoke blunts & eat steak. but wut can we do ?
January 16th, 2010 at 3:41 pm
Gruden was a traitor?…lol…did Jon trade himself in the middle of the night for 8 million dollars and a couple worthless draft picks?
January 16th, 2010 at 3:42 pm
dis…dat…wut…= retarded.
January 16th, 2010 at 3:44 pm
man. theres not one american that would rather live in any other country . excluding madonna. if im wrong. then rich people would move elsewhere cus they visit everywhere . the water , the food, the courts , the medicine is not up 2 american standards around da world. plus hiv and other stds are just on WOW status every else.
January 16th, 2010 at 3:44 pm
# Raider75 Says:
January 16th, 2010 at 3:35 pm
If it weren’t for the US, you would all be speaking German or Russian.
I get tired of your smug anti-US bs. Bow down wuss.
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naaaaw you =)
you got caught not knowing jack, and thats your comeback, well hadn’t we given you money you had been english or frenchmen…
January 16th, 2010 at 3:46 pm
gruden is a traitor .. u think he wasnt happy 2 leave ? chucky broke our hearts . why let him back in our bed ?
January 16th, 2010 at 3:46 pm
Not one American that would?…really?…they leave every day,…the only ones that move here are ones coming for a handout, (welfare), or to be career criminals, about 99% from Mexico.
January 16th, 2010 at 3:48 pm
Jon didnt trade himself Satan, the Raiders owner did, Davis sought out the Bucs for that trade,…your broken heart has your truth distorted.
January 16th, 2010 at 3:50 pm
Damned – Reggie Bush is lookin’ good. I guess there’s still hope for McFadden!
January 16th, 2010 at 3:50 pm
I hope in the 2010 World Cup, the USA can go piss a ton of people off.
I think we play England first. I can’t wait, and I don’t even like soccer.
January 16th, 2010 at 3:51 pm
# La Milicia Negra Says:
January 16th, 2010 at 3:44 pm
# Raider75 Says:
January 16th, 2010 at 3:35 pm
If it weren’t for the US, you would all be speaking German or Russian.
I get tired of your smug anti-US bs. Bow down wuss.
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naaaaw you =)
you got caught not knowing jack, and thats your comeback, well hadn’t we given you money you had been english or frenchmen…
………
Not knowing jack about what? But yeah your right. I sure would hate to be english. I mean those english are scum of the earth. I would much rather be a nazi or a communist.
I know this. You are typical anti-us eurotrash.
I know how it bothers you that we are the greatest country on the planet. I know you suffer from low esteem because a country only a few 100 years old is the envy of the world.
January 16th, 2010 at 3:51 pm
ill never get dat image out my head gruden jumpin up & down sayin crush em. dont let up. as gannon was bein thrown to the ground . then that traitor didnt even seem upset after the tuck rule game!
January 16th, 2010 at 3:52 pm
Vegas…
cant wait either, and the US team IS good, so you have all the reason to have your hopes up, several of your players have played or playes in the danish league…
January 16th, 2010 at 3:55 pm
i just wish that al gets sum young stud lb like xavier adibi . get us a qb. id even take chris sims. at least he smart . time 4 the great fargas to split. old offensive linemen too . and why dont i eer hear . dirt nap 4 j russ? traitors! the whole lot of u
January 16th, 2010 at 3:56 pm
Iwas happy for Jon at the superbowl, and I was there. Good for him…your anger and bitterness is misdirected Satan, as I said, Jon didnt trade himself, Mr Davis did.
January 16th, 2010 at 3:56 pm
and norco bob. noone cares about any other country . america is the only nation that matters. GOD BLESS THE U.S.A.
January 16th, 2010 at 3:57 pm
Satan, hmm,..by your silly posts, I assume you text alot.
January 16th, 2010 at 3:58 pm
I also love the USA,..but there are those that move out of here,..more move i nthen out thats for sure,..because our government hands out tax payer money to them when they get here., other countries dont.
January 16th, 2010 at 3:59 pm
LMN,
To beat guys at their own game, is always fun. The first game against England will be rocking. Barack even says he might go.
January 16th, 2010 at 4:01 pm
Barrack may go?…lol,..and I thought soccer was just for moms and daughters…didnt know homosexuals liked soccer too…cool.
January 16th, 2010 at 4:03 pm
vegas raider Says:
January 16th, 2010 at 8:22 am
Neilb,
Everyone likes all the dogs. Amazingly the homes teams record the last 4 years in this round is 7-9. Last year 1-3.
I hope the Saints win and cover, than you know you can hammer the dogs after that.
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Well I called it, I should try to follow it up.
Ravens with the points?? I like the Cowboys and Chargers tomorrow.
Every year it seems, there is one upset and one blowout. We see the blowout. Are the Ravens the upset? I’m taking the points.
Cowboys aren’t really that big of an upset.
January 16th, 2010 at 4:04 pm
# Norco Bob Says:
January 16th, 2010 at 3:58 pm
I also love the USA,..but there are those that move out of here,..more move i nthen out thats for sure,..because our government hands out tax payer money to them when they get here., other countries dont.
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Not to mention the human rights laws, illegal search and seizure, right to a trial by peers, open borders,entrepreneurial spitit, elective government, freedom of worship, freedom of speech, freedom to assemble, right to bear arms, beer, women, NFL, and the middle class way of life.
January 16th, 2010 at 4:07 pm
Most come for the welfare,..yes I watch 60 Minutes….the ones not comin for welfare come to be career criminals…(Mexico)
January 16th, 2010 at 4:07 pm
Per Morley Safer anyway.
January 16th, 2010 at 4:08 pm
Norco, the Raiders are doing everything they can to narrow the masculinity advantage football has always had over soccer.
January 16th, 2010 at 4:09 pm
Norco, you don’t even know what welfare is.
January 16th, 2010 at 4:09 pm
NORCO. I ASSUME BY YOUR USE OF HYDROCODONE THAT U ARE A FORMER RAPE VICTIM THAT USES DRUGS 2 COPE WITH THE PAIN .
January 16th, 2010 at 4:10 pm
Actually Flacco really scares me. He is hurt, young, on the road and not that great.
Getting gun-shy.
January 16th, 2010 at 4:11 pm
I dont know what welfare is?…dang,..most in here think Im on welfare!…thanks MR!
January 16th, 2010 at 4:11 pm
They should just call off this game. This is like a boxing match where one guy is being held up by a corner, standing in a pool of his own blood while being pounded. Howard Cossell would have walked out of the booth by now.
January 16th, 2010 at 4:13 pm
ASSUMPTIONS ..
January 16th, 2010 at 4:14 pm
Been to a couple Clash and Earthquake matches,..at times during the match, its almost as if the game has stopped, when it hadnt,…soccer is boring and sucks,..a sport for really stupid people,..like Euros,..3rd world contries,…thats why little kids play soccer, because running around kicking a ball is easy,..even retarded people can do it,…all good I guess. lol
January 16th, 2010 at 4:14 pm
Poor Kurt Warner. Looks like Jesus sided with N’orlans today, just as he sided with Santana Moss a year ago.
January 16th, 2010 at 4:15 pm
Norco, yeh, soccer sucks. And Raider games are truly exciting.
January 16th, 2010 at 4:15 pm
412. Norco Bob Says:
January 16th, 2010 at 4:14 pm
Been to a couple Clash and Earthquake matches,..at times during the match, its almost as if the game has stopped, when it hadnt,…soccer is boring and sucks,..a sport for really stupid people,..like Euros,..3rd world contries,…thats why little kids play soccer, because running around kicking a ball is easy,..even retarded people can do it,…all good I guess. lol
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I have never agreed with anything more than I agree with this statement. SOCCER SUCKS!!!!
January 16th, 2010 at 4:16 pm
# Norco Bob Says:
January 16th, 2010 at 9:10 am
I smoke pot daily, but it legally in Oaklandand Sacramento with my medical card,..ya I of course love beer too, who doesnt?…:)
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Of course you’re a burner.
Everything about your silly whining little ‘look at me..someone reply to me.., haha, you replied, oh look at me giggle like a little girl’ comments screams burner.
You get no reply about career criminals from Mexico, so minutes later you post it again? lol..you’re so pathetic.
Still laughing at you proudly believing being an illiterate drunk is an accomplishment.
In that case, reach for the stars, Doofus.
January 16th, 2010 at 4:16 pm
vegas raider Says:
January 16th, 2010 at 3:59 pm
LMN,
To beat guys at their own game, is always fun. The first game against England will be rocking. Barack even says he might go.
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well premier league is the best league but the UK team is NOT the best team, and they never will be…
January 16th, 2010 at 4:17 pm
MR,..I have been going mainly the last 7 years strictly for the tailgating,…the wins and losses dont affect that.
January 16th, 2010 at 4:18 pm
Hi again Rich, thanks for following.
January 16th, 2010 at 4:18 pm
La Melissa, is soccer popular where you are?
January 16th, 2010 at 4:20 pm
Raider75,
I’m a pot head, but I never been to jail or have a record.
You should read my post again, and maybe you can understand it better.
January 16th, 2010 at 4:25 pm
People who dont get high, wel lthey have issues, and when they have gotten high, they trip on them alot,..so from then on they bag on pot,..when the truth is they hate the mind expanding experience,..makes them see themselves for what they are and it depresses them. Pot is great. I love it. Buy it legally too.
January 16th, 2010 at 4:26 pm
SnB,
We have good things and bad just like any other country. We need to understand our strengths and weaknesses so we can improve.
People like Raider75 are the weak link!!
January 17th, 2010 at 3:15 am
Based on actual results not hypotheticals…
Immigration: compare how the USA does it vs. Europe…LOL
Religion: No coutry in the world comes close to allowing a total freedom to practice what one will…in France they won’t let the Muslim girls wear the headscarf…in Saudi Arabia its illegal to worship anything other than Islam…
Diversity: Come talk to me when I see an Arabic guy running in prominence in Isreel…or an Indian Prime Minister in Denmark…how about a Korean guy in Japan….no one comes close…yet Louisiana elected an Indian conservative named Jindahl as Governor
Education: No country has as many secondary education institutions per capita than the USA…and access to them are fairly open (especially at community college and lower level state college levels)–How many foreign students attend Chinese schools?
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Hey Mr. North American awareness guy, ever hear of a country named Canada?
(Hint: just North of the 49th parallel)
P.S. it’s not called North Korea